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CSX-Sucks!

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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 September 2006

Taken from railroad.net

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: AMDG is going bye-bye
  

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Just got word from a friend of mine that as of September 30th, 2006,
AMDG will no longer be the source of conductor trainees for the CSX
Albany Division. This has been confirmed by the director of conductor
training at the CSX headquarters in Jax. Locations like Richmond,
Philly, DC/Benning Yard, Brunswick and Baltimore are already direct
hire. 

The director also said CSX will go the direct hire method system wide
within the next 18 months. That's great news for me as I did not want
to cough up the $4-7K for the schooling after retiring from the
military next summer. I had originally ruled out CSX just because of
that, but can now consider them along with all the other big boys.
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AF Dude 

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject:    

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this is gonna leave alot of people royally pissed, including me. we
paid a substantial amount not counting 5 weeks of hotel living expense.
csx should come up w/ a rebate. i have no prob w/ amdg. my greatest
thanks to ron berben, tom bender, and jim presswood for an excellent
primer on professional railroading. our class met as strangers and left
as old friends.
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject:    

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CSX might as well shoot themselves in the foot and be done with it.
This is a regression from everything that they have accomplished with
the school programs. Not to mention the decline in safety that will
surely follow because of lack of training. 


Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject:    

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the point is, they can likely hire their own instructors, and save
money not outsourcing. It is becoming harder and harder for guys to
just foot the 3000-5000 bucks whatever it is to be a trainperson.
People don't want to pay to have to go to work. I know you can argue
that people pay to go to college and to get degrees. I agree. But the
railroad can save money and that is what it is all about, and they can
train the employees to their standards and orientation instead of an
outside company.
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Interested in train sims and HO Scale as well as IL operations 


Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject:    

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the amdg program is based on csx. the workbook texts are from the csx
rulebooks. i would reccomend getting them to pre-study. if you plan on
working up north, download the norac signals from the amdg site, and
copy them onto index cards, have a spouse or whatever quiz you
frequently. everything else comes pretty easy. the sigs are a most
neccesary pain in the ... to remember
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject:    

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the missing link wrote: 
this is gonna leave alot of people royally pissed, including me. we
paid a substantial amount not counting 5 weeks of hotel living expense.
csx should come up w/ a rebate. 


CSX doesn't owe you or me a rebate. We have something better than
those who will be paid to attend the school.....it's called seniority.
Being older in seniority is better and more profitable in the long run
in my opinion. Anyone else agree? 


Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:40 pm    Post subject:    

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Lmcgolf wrote: 
CSX might as well shoot themselves in the foot and be done with it.
This is a regression from everything that they have accomplished with
the school programs. Not to mention the decline in safety that will
surely follow because of lack of training. 


My son's employer found that the situation was quite the opposite. The
Choo-Choo U graduates they got rarely survived their student trips,
whereas the direct hires fared much better because they were trained
precisely the way the railroad wanted them trained. The Choo-Choo U
folks were being trained generically for 3 or 4 different railroads. 

My son was a Conductor/Coach for a year and a half before moving to the
other side of the cab, and said that the thing that amazed him most, and
the things which caused student conductors to leave/be fired was mostly
unrealistic expectations on the student's part, and poor work habits.


He would often stop by for coffee after a day's work and shake his
head over the antics of his student for that particular day. He said
that students would lay off sick and then act hurt and surprised when
the company demanded a doctor's note. Or student's that would show up
an hour late for a job and act confused that the train wasn't there
anymore. Hint for student conductors: they DON'T need you to run the
train and are very unlikely to wait for you. 

He said that students would show up without their radios, with dead
batteries, without their safety vest, without steel toed boots, and
sometimes, he thought, without their brains. 

I don't know what it is like at other railroads, but he enjoyed
coaching student conductors and was extremely committed to helping them
learn, be safe and fit in. And I think that was true of most conductors
on that railroad who coached students. 

My kid said that you could usually tell within a week or two of student
trips which ones would make it and which ones would take a hike
(voluntary or otherwise). 

He said to tell y'all that it can be a great career and he wishes you
the best. 

Mike 


Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject:    

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CSX Conductor wrote: 
the missing link wrote: 
this is gonna leave alot of people royally pissed, including me. we
paid a substantial amount not counting 5 weeks of hotel living expense.
csx should come up w/ a rebate. 


CSX doesn't owe you or me a rebate. We have something better than
those who will be paid to attend the school.....it's called seniority.
Being older in seniority is better and more profitable in the long run
in my opinion. Anyone else agree? 


i see your point there. on one side, if your serious enough to pony up
the money, theres more at stake, so one would have the natural tendency
to take it all the way through completion. 
if they don't charge, theyre gonna end up w/ a 50% washout rate, at
their own expense. everyone at my amdg class finished. 
i just think that after you've proven yourself for a few years, they
should kick something back.
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