Courtesy and Professional CSX Style

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Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 23 May 2019

I can tell you one thing that will never change is no one will stick
together in my years I have seen it rarely and it never lasts every one
is out for them selves and most are a bunch of scared pussy's and that
is the simple truth unions members don't stick together and crafts are
always cutting each others trout's this is the environment they deserve
that is why these ass hole managers and do what the do and get away with
it because they know no one will stand up to them and never will.

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Name: Engineer 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 May 2019


Remember old rule where you divided your tonage by you horsepower and
got as close to 2.0 as possible? This is how you determined how many
units you could have on line for fuel conservation.
Remember the old rule that stated you could only have one unit on line
when running an empty unit train? 

Those rules DO NOT EXIST. They were removed when Hunter Harrison took
over. He came out with a flat rule that you couldn't exceed 27 powered
axles. PERIOD! You will not find those old rules anywhere in writing. 
As much as everyone despised HH he did care about one thing.  It was
getting trains across the road without delay and at track speed. 

A few crews have now been addressed over their radios by the new so
called fuel conservation desk and being asked why they have more than
one unit on line when they are running empty unit trains. Several crews
have been confronted when they disengaged their TO programs temporarily.
It was just reported by a few supervisors that the crews were going to
be monitored more heavily in the fuel conservation rules.
HH TOOK OVER. As for disengaging the TO, per the FRA if the engineer
feels he/she needs to do so for the safe handling of thier train they
have every right to do so. 
AS of this time the only concern for locomotive engineers is whether or
not they have sufficient power for their tonnage. This is the question
you are asked by the dispatchers during your job briefing. 
If you are ordered to isolate your power by the fuel conservation desk
and you can not run track speed you are supposed to contact the
dispatcher and inform them.  This IS THE RULE. Any reason for delay in
train is to be reported. Cover your butts and report all delays and who
ordered you to reduce power and speed. 
When supervisors state that crews will soon be strictly held
accountable for actions that are out of their control or having no
definitive written rules to follow, it's time to start covering every
move you make and making sure that the parties creating the problems
are reported. Once again the buck is being passed onto the crews. No
engineer should be blamed for anything when the company has once again 
failed to have understandable and definitive rules in WRITING!

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Name: conductor
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 May 2019

attendance points!

Just got off the phone with my Lc and he said that they have been
discussing amongst themselves on what to do if we are not given credit
for good attendance during the month of may if we earned it. The old
policy is still in effect and we are all entitled to the 3 points back
on June 1st even though the new policy takes effect on the same date.
He seems to think it will cause a problem and they should have made it
effective no sooner than the 5th. If we don't get the credits due us
on June 1st we will all need to submit written complaints to our reps
to take to the General chairman and demand the terms of the existing
agreement we had in effect be honored.

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Name: Dingleberry
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 May 2019

Smh, Iím with you brother. 
First things first: 
The beauty of the railroad is the mentally retarded folks that run it.
Computers run everything these days-job titles are only for the
narcissist egomaniacs that believe they are gonna climb a never ending
ladder. The mainframe will work regardless of who the ceo or assistant
superintendent is.  They will answer for our actions before we do-if we
are to do this.

Second: WE DO NOT NEED TO STRIKE! All we have to do is follow their
rules to  the best of our abilities and that will have a profound
effect.(see my previous posts)

Third: If we are to do this, everyone needs fire insurance. The asshat
mgrís will get angry and some will pay-at least they will get paid
though. If the cost of insurance is too high we tell the UTU or BRCF
Ďhey we want full benefits at $xx.xx a monthí if they donít like it
well there is 3,000 members that will go elsewhere. Strength in
numbers. We are in control.

Fourth: I donít pay these fuckin dues for nothing. The union better get
its act together instead of putting out letters that express how
dissatisfied they are with company policies. For too long the unions
have sat back and let it happen. They throw their hands in the air-
like they are at a Ricky Martin concert or some shit. Organize the
organized or be replaced with ACRE, BLET, or whoever the hell else
there is. 

We get caught up in the mundane process of work and life sometimes.
Answer the phone, go to work, go to sleep... that we donít realize we
are getting in the butt until you wake up one day and you are so tired
you can barely move. I havenít been working on the railroad these years
to get taken out by a drone or some dickhead attendance policy.

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Name: Dingleberry
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 May 2019

I should write a book...

The company with these policies is telling you that they absolutely
need and depend on you. They need the workforce to be lean to produce
good numbers. PSR donít work, and if it does-it doesnít work for us.

Give then what they ask for and these policies will disappear. Give
them their bad orders, give them their bad switches, give them their

If they thought losing a favorable award from an arbitrator was bad,
wait until they see a unified group following their rules to a ĎTí. 

Unions must pressure local management to create a list of required
items to be on the employees person when working. That way when a
ďbook-checkĒ occurs you have everything that is listed.

Unions must pressure local management to create a work flow of all
tasks to be completed during shifts. That way when they see how thin
they are spread and all the work they need only gets finished half-way
you are protected from any backlash.

Their railroad, their rules- show emí why they are retards.

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Name: engineer
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 May 2019


I was told the same thing when the bid system started. They close
everything down on Friday night long enough to get everyone's awarded
bids in and activated to be put in place for 0001 on Saturday morning.
There is no reason in hell for them to hold off putting anyone on a job
3 hours after midnight. Even if a person who was on their annual
vacation was forced onto a different job, if they had prescheduled day
in to be off 2 more extra days the first day should have began at 0001
on Saturday.  I have heard a lot of stories about this kind of stuff
going on lately.  Anything to get someone marked up earlier or stop
them from taking off sooner is going to be the norm here real soon if
we all don't stick together and report the problem as soon as it
happens. If we all have to file charges with the ethics committee then
so be it. There is no way this is an accident or as they used to say in
the past all the time..... ""We have a lot of new people hired in crew
management and they don't know what they are doing. We are working on
the situation!"

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Name: Dingleberry
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 May 2019

Strikes are illegal on the railroad-we all know. 

There will be no strike and there will be no slow down.

There will come a point though when ALL will realize in unison that in
order to work safely we must take the time to review our tasks before,
during, and after making any kind of move. If this slows down the work
then it slows down the work. 

Nothing illegal.

It is up to the union to organize this safety effort to ensure all are
on the same page.

The General Chair will have to advise the locals, and the locals will
have to advise the membership.

The company says we are unsafe. Well then itís time to get safe at the
same time, system wide. No favors, no shortcuts, just compliance.

Items to include (but limited to):
Shopping bad order cars on the hump,
Shopping engines that arenít 100% in compliance,
Stopping movements during shoves when radio transmission becomes
Pulling Auto racks in yard cuts at 4 Mph to reduce sway,
Watching all bowl pull cuts at 4mph to inspect cars for bad orders,
Tagging all switches that require an unreasonable amount of force,

The company issues managers compliance testing protocol every month or
so. The union will do the same!

Two can play this game.

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Name: loco
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 May 2019


Watch every thing that crew management does from this day forward. I 
got screwed out of 3 hours of my time off for vacation because they
manipulated the times that I was supposed to be marked off on each
additional vacation day I tagged onto the end of my annual.
When they awarded the jobs on the JAD I still had the same turn with
the same days off and if I hadn't added 2 extra days to the end of my
vacation I would have been on call at 22:00 for 0001 Saturday morning.
They marked me off on Friday night while they had the awards being done
then when they put me back on my same turn they waited until 3:00 am to
do it. They put me on my daily vacation day at 3 am instead of
Midnight! I didn't catch it so when I was coming off the second day
and wanted a late mark up for 4 am that I am entitled too they
wouldn't let me because they said that option was only good if you are
scheduled to be marked back up at midnight. They cant give a less than 4
hour late markup. It was then when I went through my history I
discovered that they waited an extra 3 hours before they put me back on
my reactivated turn Friday night that I was already on and used that
time to show when I would be rested off my last vacation day.
I just talked to a guy they did the same to but took several hours from
him and charged him with a miscall when he didn't answer the phone.
What they did to him was worse than they did to me. He got 10 points
for the crap and is still fighting it even though the  Head of crew
management agreed that he was correct. The person who handles assessing
the points is refusing to take them off. This is just more bull and now
with this new availability policy which is designed to make sure
everyone has points on their record unless they either don't
accumulate any by never marking off or just accumulate 10 then wait six
months for them to clear and start over again.  You have to be brain
dead to not figure out the scheme behind all of this. Watch everything
they do with your history and your mark off and mark up times!

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Name: Wildcat
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 May 2019

At the rr I work for we did a wildcat strike shut the place down for 48
hours. The organizers did a good job. Then they found out the names of
the organizers. They put the heat on one of the organizers. Well they
threatened to fire him he spilt the beans on all the other organizers
in a formal investigation. They where all fired except the rat. The
guys not union reps really hurt the company and sent a message to them.
No one wanted to work with the rat but guys had no choice. The rat
thought he was bullit proof because of his rat actions for the company.
Karma came around and the rat threatened a supervisor. He was escorted
off the property by the police and then fired. If there is to be an
organized protest without union directors, you really have to watch who
you trust talking to. The old days of solidarity are long gone.

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Name: Cond
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 May 2019

TM poser 

I can say with confidence from everyone.....kiss all of our asses

I remember when the devil HH  first took over and took the TM and RF
days off and vacations away. Man those guys cried like little girls.

Count on having some points on your record all year round. Don't give
a crap.  Get 20 points then deal with it. Do what ya got too. Don't
come to work sick making everyone else sick.  Screw this outfit.  Do 40
and move on....

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Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 May 2019

Need to concentrate more on doing a good job while being safe and
following the RULES...instead of sick days and and vacation.

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Name: ????
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 May 2019


Go to page 2 of this new policy and read the very last paragraph. Read
it real close.

Now look where it states at the end....work related illness or injury
supported by a valid doctors NOT SUBMITTED TO THE MEDICAL DEPARTMENT.
Obviously getting sick or injured at work is covered!

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Name: Cond.
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 May 2019

I read this policy and something has to be wrong.  I don't know of any
company as big as csx that doesnt give their employees at least 3 paid
sick days a year. Most give more.  I took 3 sick days last year. I
logged enough hours at work to equal 14 months of a regular 9-5 job
that works 5 days a week. 3 stinking sick days. If I take 3 days this
year without documentation it will cost me 12 points if none are on
weekend or holiday. On this new policy it will take a whole damn 12
months not taking another single day to go back to zero points. Unless
I end up in the hospital or emergency room I'll be screwed. That's
the only way you can be sick and get no points. This can't be right.
I thought our union's were fighting to stop this shit. The old policy
allowed us to get 0 points if we went to doctor and you were treated
with meds that did not allow you to work. No way they should give you 2
points if you can't work by law. The list of meds that came out should
be considered and the points should not be assessed! Direct doctors
orders stating you need to stay home for a day should cover it. Our
union's better get this crap clarified now!

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Name: WTF
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 May 2019

Mark off sick 1 day in Jan.  1 day in Feb.  1 day in April and 1 day in
June without Dr. Slip and you got to go a whole year with no mark off
to go from 16 pts. back to 0?  So go to dr. Get valid slip at 2 pts
each which would equal 8 pts if you do it 4 times. Then in 6 months you
will be clean.  HA! HA!  Yeah like they will ok your doctors orders and
proof.  Not to mention the insurance companies forking out all the
extra dough for the visits and freakin out!
What a damn mess!

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Name: Conductor
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 May 2019


To clear your record you would have to go a full year without taking a
sick day without a dr. Slip???  Think what you just said. What if you
take a sick day during that year and have a valid slip. It's going to
cost you 2 points! So you can't do it in a year unless you take NO
sick days at all or you are admitted to the hospital or go to emergency
room.  Don't forget the biggest factor of all....NO POINTS ASSESSED IF
THEY WARRANT YOUR SUBMITTED INFO VALID.  thats the damn problem. You
got 3 days to get this info to them in order to see if they pardon you
and give you 2 points or none. You take off to the doctor and the next
day as soon as your marked up they call you out. Your on the damb road.
You end up in the hotel for 30 hours like we were last time, then you
get a 12 hr. Trip home. You going to mail this as soon as you walk in
the door after seeing the doctor or find a ride to take you to a post
office at your AFHT! A postmark within 3 days from the visit should be
acceptable if you don't have or can't get to a fax machine.
This crap starts June 1st.  What about the points that are supposed to
be removed on June first if you go all of May without a mark off. Are
we getting credit for this GOOD LITTLE BOY BEHAVIOR?? Let's see on the
first if we get our earned credit.

SO TO RECAP....with the old policy if you had 16 points it only took 6
months to clear your record. Remember you got 3 points back for each
month you stayed marked up. With this new policy you only get 10 points
for each 6 months so it will take a year now to clear all 16.  Who the
hell never gets sick all year!  So come into work sick as shit. Every
single time you mark off unless it is an emergency or hospital visit
they pardon, you will be starting your 6 months all over again. Welcome
to HELL!

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Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 May 2019

Letís think about something for a moment. CSX has cut back in almost
every repair shop on the system except for Selkirk. Why not start
laying-off there, or just close it down. That would save money, plus
drive stock prices up!! Just a thought.

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Name: Cond.
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 May 2019

Attendance policy sucks!!!

Think about this people....if you had to take 1 sick day per month for
4 months and didn't have dr. Slip you would have 16 pts if none were
weekend days....  it takes 6  months to get 10 points back. So in order
to completely clear your points off you would have to go a full year
without one single sick day without a dr. Slip.  BULLSHIT. It looks
like dr. Appt. For every single bout of diarrhea, stomach flue,
sinusitis etc...your forking out co pay and the hassle of the
paperwork.  And what the hell does VALID CLAIM MEAN.  This is pure
retaliation for FMLA USERS AND HOLIDAY ABUSERS.  So what if they give
you a better chance of keeping your job on steps it ain't worth it. 
Look real close people. Your going to always have a point on your
record unless you never ever get sick without going to the doctors for
proof. Watch the med premiums sky rocket people when we all go to
doctor for the last minute flu!

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Name: Knuckle dragging Monkey
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 May 2019

Yessa boss man!
Whatta ever ya say!!

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Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 May 2019

to all the knuckle dragging monkeys out there remember management runs
this freak show and you all know it do your jobs keep your big mouths
shut when we tell you to do something you do it or can find a new job
like those in Willard will find out soon.

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Name: Invest
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 May 2019


If your engineer I suggest you invest no less than 8% in your 401k to
get the full stock match.  Open a Roth IRA  with Vanguard. Best company
with the lowest fees in the country. Sound record and investor run. Yeah
you got to take your money out of your pay check after tax to invest it
but it will pay of 10 fold in the future. thats my advise.

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