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Name: HR 1748 Safe Freight Act 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 August 2019

Got some more great news. We need more inspiration and positive thinking
let’s keep getting the word out we can win this fight. Here is the
latest on two person crew bill. 

1. Protect the TWO MAN CREW BILL (HR 1748 Safe Freight Act) It’s about
public safety and jobs. 
2. Go to SMART-UNION.org/td 
Click on the Red button support two person crews on the right side of
division home page. 
2.  Enter contact info ( this is needed to direct the email to your
member of congress. 
3. Click Send. The pre-drafted my essage will be sent directly to your
member of congress. 
4. This effects railroad retirement, retired railroaders, current
railroaders there’s even a spot for the general public to make there
voice be heard. Please take action there is 175,000 conductors and
59,000 engineers that need this support not to mention public safety at
risk. 
5. safety of the crews and the public must come first!

Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker signed a two-person crew bill into law
on August 9, becoming the third state to pass such a railroad safety
bill in 2019. 

Senate Bill 24, or the “Two Person Freight Train Act,” provides that:
“no rail carrier shall operate a train or light engine used in
connection with the movement of freight unless it has an operating crew
consisting of at least 2 individuals. Provides that the minimum freight
train crew size shall remain in effect until a federal law or rule
encompassing the subject matter has been adopted.” 

The intent of the bill is to protect public safety. It reads in part:
“It is the public policy of the State of Illinois to enhance public
safety by establishing a minimum freight train operating crew size to
address the transportation of all freight, including, but not limited
to, hazardous and volatile materials, on the railroads of Illinois. The
transportation of this freight, coupled with substantially longer
trains, creates significant health, safety, and security concerns for
local communities. Adequate railroad operating personnel are critical
to ensuring railroad operational safety and security and in supporting
first responder activities in the event of a hazardous material
incident, grade crossing incident, or mechanical failure.”

It passed in the Senate following its third reading on April 11, 2019,
and passed in the House following its third reading on May 21. The bill
was referred to the Governor’s office on June 19. 

BLET Illinois State Legislative Board Chairman Paul Piekarski spent
months lobbying for passage of the bill, and delivered key testimony
before a major hearing of the Illinois House Transportation, Roads and
Bridges Committee on May 7, 2019. Also testifying were Bob Guy and Mike
Renkin of SMART TD. Several BLET members were seated in the hearing
room, including: BLET Illinois SLB 1st Vice Chris Falaney, Division
683; BLET Illinois SLB 2nd Vice Chairman Rick Leschina, Division 32;
BLET Illinois SLB 3rd Vice Chairman Cory Martin, Division 135;
Legislative Representative Jacub Szyzdek, Division 458; and Legislative
Representative Nick Billingsley, Division 251. The bill passed out of
committee by a 9-4 vote. 

Brother Piekarski thanked Governor Pritzker for signing the bill.
Piekarski also thanked the bill’s two main sponsors: State House of
Representatives Assistant Majority Leader Jay Hoffman (D-113) and State
Senate Assistant Majority Leader Terry Link (D-30). 

Rep. Hoffman said the bill is in response to lacking federal and state
guidelines, coupled with rising concerns on the adequate number of crew
members needed to operate freight trains in Illinois. “This bill is an
effort to ensure that freight train engineers have the necessary
support and flexibility they need to adapt in situations of mechanical
breach or failure,” he said. “This is a huge public safety issue.” 

The law becomes effective January 1, 2020. 

Illinois becomes the third state in 2019 to pass a railroad safety bill
mandating two crew members in the locomotive cab. Colorado Governor
Jared S. Polis signed a two-person crew bill into law on March 21, and
Nevada Governor Steve Sisolak signed one on May 15. 

“I would like to recognize Brother Piekarski and all BLET members who
worked so hard to lobby for passage of this much needed safety
legislation,” BLET National President Dennis R. Pierce said.
“Legislation such as this proves that American citizens and their
elected leaders have a great deal of concern regarding the safety of
railroads that travel through our country. They understand the need to
have adequately staffed trains in order to maintain the highest levels
of safety.”

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Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 August 2019

Hiring 15 conductors for Cleveland!!!!   Posted today

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Name: To ape
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Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 August 2019

Willard adding yard jobs next week that lasted a whole week collinwood
buried with around 800 cars they can't switch setting cars off at
Parma and ashtabula because they are buried another brilliant plan by
our brilliant leaders lol I love it

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Name: un wanted
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 August 2019

the worst union was in collinwood  The union had a office next to the
termanal manager    there standard answer be lucky you have a job 
there were all on special duty and safety commety     never got one
claim paid   and the road union man never worked the road  if you got a
claim you had to pay a kickback  they gave away the caboose  they gave
away the full   started with the fireman    no help , then the flagman
, no help , then the the brakeman , no help then the utility men , no
help   then car count , they made spine cars no help, double stack no
help switch tenders gone , clerks gone late lunch gone o82 gone    bend
over and grab your knees one man crews are comming  dont ask your union
for help  the ton care at all  but keep on paying the dues    work like
sheep thats all you can get . sorry

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Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 21 August 2019

What is happening in Willard not heard anything for almost a week are
they still trying to just block swap with just one yard crew a shift

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Name: X Futurama Railroader
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 August 2019

To xtrainer detractor..
I'll tell you what to do.
Throw your grievances in the trash can walk out to your car get in it
and leave and never come back let the office  staff and Foote  do it.

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Name: 
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Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 August 2019

Watch out Huntington shop! Danielwicz and Logan to visit next week.
Remember the last time those two were there, four clerks were
furloughed.

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Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 August 2019

PSR = Positive Shareholder Returns


How many management factor failures did we have today at CSX?

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Name: To   Trainer
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Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 August 2019

To x trainer if Foote decides to fast track white collar and office
staff , to get qualified by a simulator to run trains he will just do
it. What is the media or union going to do about it? They can’t do
anything but file grievance etc. If the goverment says there training
is ok, they will be driving trains. In Canada transport Canada said
being qualified in simulator is ok for office staff to run trains. The
union protested threw the media big deal. It hit the news a few times
that was it. They where short staffed so they used office staff to run
trains. They told the union to file a grievance if they did not like
it.  What is the union and media going to do if Foote trains office
staff to run trains ? Tell me what is any one going to do ?

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Name: Sand Patch 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 August 2019

Heard CSX stopped helpers on Sandpatch?

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Name: HR 1748 Safe Freight Act S1979
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 August 2019

Great news guys we are building steam. The states have filed lawsuit
against the FRA in support of the Safe Freight Act. Thanks for all the
help and support. Here is he latest news 

1. Protect the TWO MAN CREW BILL (HR 1748 Safe Freight Act) It’s about
public safety and jobs. 
2. Go to SMART-UNION.org/td 
Click on the Red button support two person crews on the right side of
division home page. 
2.  Enter contact info ( this is needed to direct the email to your
member of congress. 
3. Click Send. The pre-drafted my essage will be sent directly to your
member of congress. 
4. This effects railroad retirement, retired railroaders, current
railroaders there’s even a spot for the general public to make there
voice be heard. Please take action there is 175,000 conductors and
59,000 engineers that need this support not to mention public safety at
risk. 
5. safety of the crews and the public must come first!

The states of Illinois, Nevada and Washington are among the latest
states that have decided to fight a federal order that prevents states
from passing laws that would require freight trains to have a train
crew size of at least two individuals.

Nevada has filed a petition with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the
Ninth Circuit asking the court to review a May action by the Federal
Railroad Administration (FRA) that prevents states from passing laws
mandating train crew size. 

The FRA had said in May that it was no longer seeking a proposed
rulemaking requiring freight trains to have more than one crew member
under certain conditions. The agency said its decision to withdraw the
proposed rulemaking on train crew sizes also preempts the state laws
that mandate otherwise. 

That in turn prompted Nevada, which passed a law earlier this year on
train crew size, to ask the court’s help in reviewing the FRA’s
actions.

“Nevada is aggrieved by the provisions…because they infringe, without
lawful authority, upon Nevada’s sovereign interest in enforcing its own
health and safety statute on the subject of train crew staffing,”
Nevada’s Attorney General Aaron Ford said in a July 29 petition.
Defendants listed in the petition were the U.S. Department of
Transportation and the FRA. 


Ford continued, “Additionally, the decision to preempt state and local
laws was arbitrary and capricious and without an evidentiary basis.
Accordingly, Nevada requests that the Court set aside the FRA’s
decision.”

In addition to Nevada’s petition, the California Public Utilities
Commission filed a similar request (also with the U.S. Court of Appeals
for the Ninth Circuit) on July 25, while Washington state Attorney
General Robert W. Ferguson filed his state’s petition on July 29.

While these state petitions are pending before federal court, Illinois
last week passed a state law requiring train crews to have at least two
members on board.

On August 9 Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker (D) signed Senate Bill 24,
which requires freight trains to have at least two crew members while
in Illinois. The requirement is effective on January 1, 2020. Illinois
follows other states that have passed similar legislation in recent
months, including Colorado and Nevada.

Union members of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen
“worked so hard to lobby for passage of this much needed safety
legislation,” said the group’s president, Dennis R. Pierce.
“Legislation such as this proves that American citizens and their
elected leaders have a great deal of concern regarding the safety of
railroads that travel through our country. They understand the need to
have adequately staffed trains in order to maintain the highest levels
of safety.”

Whether the new law has traction is unclear because of the FRA’s
declaration in May regarding train crew size.


But the Illinois bill states that its mandate “shall remain in effect
until a federal law or rule encompassing the subject matter has been
adopted.”

The SMART Union – Transportation Division (SMART-TD) is taking legal
action against the FRA’s withdrawal of its proposed rulemaking. Leaders
of the union also said it will seek to work with the states’ attorneys
general and lobby Congress for a federal rule on train crew size.

“There is going to be a big push coming,” said  SMART-TD president John
Previsich at the union’s regional meeting on July 3. The union is also
petitioning the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, according
to court filings.

The FRA declined to comment because of pending litigation. 

Meanwhile, the Association of American Railroads (AAR), which has said
that train crew size is an issue that should be negotiated between the
railroads and the unions, reiterated its support of the May decision by
the FRA to withdraw the proposed rulemaking on train crew size.

“After a lengthy and thorough process of evidence collection and
analysis, a public comment period and a public hearing, the FRA
concluded that a federal crew size regulation was unnecessary and
inappropriate because there is no data suggesting two-person crews are
safer than one,” AAR said. 

AAR continued, “The federal rail safety regulator made clear that its
decision was intended to preempt any state legislative action on the
matter, consistent with federal law and the national transportation
policy of a uniform federal system of rail safety regulation.”

Train crew sizes and longer trains
The debate over train crew size continues amid concerns by the union
and some politicians that the safety concerns that could come from
longer trains warrant crew sizes of at least two people. A Senate bill
was introduced earlier this summer addressing train crew size, while
the Illinois legislation cites longer trains for the bill’s rationale.


The transportation of hazardous and volatile materials on trains,
“coupled with substantially longer trains, creates significant health,
safety and security concerns for local communities,” the bill said.
“Adequate railroad operating personnel are critical to ensuring
railroad operational safety and security and in supporting first
responder activities in the event of a hazardous material incident,
grade crossing incident or mechanical failure.”

The unions also cited longer trains as an argument for two-person train
crews.

“At a time when freight trains are increasingly longer and carrying the
most hazardous of chemicals through our communities, common sense tells
us that response time to critical incidents involving trains is surely
enhanced when a safe and adequate train crew size of at least two
individuals are deployed, which is already the industry norm today and
should be well into the future,” said Bob Guy, SMART TD legislative
director for Illinois. 

While train crew size has been the focus of the debate on the merits of
the new Illinois law, the law also addresses rail crossings. The law
details penalties for blocking a highway-grade rail crossing for longer
than 10 minutes under certain timeframes and locations, and it prohibits
a train from blocking emergency responders at rail crossings if the
train crew is aware that the train is blocking the crossing.

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 20 August 2019

What do you mean craft lines are crossed on a daily basses, I know first
hand my entire craft was laid off to have another craft doing are work
this company will do what ever they want and violate the contract on
daily basses and get away with it my union has not done anything to
stop this and that union is the fireman and oiler SEIU so don't think
they will not cross those craft lines they already do.

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Name: ex trainer
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Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 August 2019

Engineers

Don't worry about management taking your jobs. First off your union
agreements don't allow management to step across craft lines. If foote
tries this in the US your going to have the media on your side along
with thousands of union members. They don't have to be railway workers
either. Die hard union families know exactly where its coming from.  As
for simulator training, you guys have rights to go after any company
official who learns on a simulator and gets his ride and license from
it.  The simulator is a joke compared to the real thing. Any engineer
with any real experience knows you have to learn to run from the seat
of your pants. You have to know the differences from the slack and buff
feel. You learn from experience when something doesn't feel right. You
know the feel of something dragging or the pressure you get from a run
out or the difference in bumps from the cars or the engines. None of
this can every be duplicated on a simulator and all railroads know
this.  How the trains are built make all the difference in the world.
Sloppy sloshy tankers behind auto racks or any car with a long drawl
bar or empty short cars in between long heavy cars can cause handling
problems. You know the drill if you have some experience. Lets not
forget motors dropping loads in the worst places or bumping in between
motors. A lot more to running a train properly than a simulator could
ever teach someone.
If you find a manager in the seat who hasn't had accredited training
in the cab and got his license from simulator training you need to
immediately report it to the USDOT and the FRA head office in
Washington D.C.

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Name: realconductor
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 August 2019

REAL TALK


Quit deflecting company mole.  We all know that your little Tonka toy
remote box isn't shit. Spoken like a little yard boy who doesn't have
a clue what it is like to run a train across the road. I know! Was in
your shoes pounding the rocks before you were wet behind the ears. Its
hard on the body and outside work sucks but your a real jackass if your
think your work is better than anyone else's out there. You need your
ass put in a seat at the throttle and then hit a car full of kids.
Maybe catch on fire. Get tossed out of the seat on the floor, derail or
get boarded by a meth head punk who wants your money. Noisy cabs,
leaking cold air or no Ac. Don't want to hear your whining its hot
outside. Your not sitting in an oven! Get off the engine and your bags
and clothes smell like urine because of the stinking toilets. Get bed
bugs or no sleep from noisy hotel staff. Get stuck away from home for 2
days and miss out on your kids functions. Break promise after promise
that dad will show up for the next one!  Maybe then you might learn a
little respect for the other crews.

One man crews are dangerous. Its going to take a lot of extra road men
out there in place to be on call at a minutes notice when shit goes
south. The engineer will not be getting off and inspecting the train
when it goes into emergency and he will not be putting it back
together. If there is a derailment and there is loaded dangerous
hazmats in the train the FRA has already told me and others we DO NOT
have to get off and go back and inspect if we feel it is a dangerous
situations and we could be exposed to chemicals that could kill us if
we get to close to them. Call the FRA. Call OSHA. Ask them if you have
to put your life on the line for this outfit. They order you to get off
your train and you breath vapors or get one little drop on your
skin....$$$$$$$1,000,000!

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Name: Seen it 
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Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 August 2019

An old manager told us guys before he retired, that back when you guys
had a union Hh would not get away with a lot of the shit he pulled off.
And he was right, today very different story, union today is softer more
gentler on there approaches to everything. Lol. I witnessed many
technical changes over the years that replaced lots of people. And AI
is here and no one is going to stop it. Technical changes that are
coming will blow you away. You will not see it at CSX first, because
this regime at CSX will be the last to invest money in the company.
This regime still has a way to go to extract more assets out of the
company for shareholders. By the time this regime is done with CSX it
will be a skeleton of what it once was. Hang on get your pay checks and
benefits as long as you can. I don’t think anyone knows what the end
game will look like once mantle pulls out.

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Name: H.R 1748 S.1979
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 August 2019

PROTECT YOUR JOB!!!! LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD!!!!! TAKE A
STAND!!!!!!!GET
THE WORD OUT!!!!! THIS IS FOR ALL RAILROADERS RETIREES EVEN THE
GENERAL
PUBLIC!!! THIS EFFECTS US ALL!!!!!
1. Go to SMART-UNION.org/td 
Click on the Red button support two person crews on the right side of
division home page. 
2.  Enter contact info ( this is needed to direct the email to your
member of congress. 
3. Click Send. The pre-drafted message will be sent directly to your
member of congress. 
4. This effects railroad retirement, retired railroaders currency
railroaders there’s even a spot for the general public to make there
voice be heard. Please take action there is 175,000 conductors and
59,000 engineers that need this support not to mention public safety
at
risk. 
SUPPORT YOUR TWO PERSON CREW BILL. TAKE ACTION TODAY!!! We all have
seen the FRA drop the ball on the two person crew bill it was a slap
the face. Stand up get the word out to everyone you know. This affects
all of us. Don’t go down without a fight. Let’s stick together a beat
this. It starts with you!!! We have all seen what this company has
done. Let’s get it done and protect our jobs for future railroaders
and
protect our railroad retirement too. Let’s get the job done and make
it
happen also let’s protect public safety. Also if you haven’t seen the
video I strongly urge you to watch it on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGF4wgQolJ4&feature=share. Great video
and worth watching how members of congress do there job. Please do
your
part to protect the jobs keep the great American railroad going
strong.



https://youtu.be/JGF4wgQolJ4

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Name: To bull
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 August 2019

Should of could of past tense, I was rr for 36 years watched how the
union got in the media and complained about Hh. Big fucking deal the
union said file a grievance which we did. The rep would take your
grievance and go hide in his office. Then most of the guys complained
like teenage girls, but kissed ass when management was around.
Solidarity is long gone.

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Name: Fear
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 August 2019

The fear tactics and intimidation works well for this regime at CSX,
that’s why they push it to control the submissive employees and union
reps. They also know most employees are in det to the max. And do you
not think these employees get nagged to death from there partners,
scared to lose these lifestyle and stuff. You are all modern day slaves
to CSX and your intimate partners. There is not directive from your
union leaders to work to rule because the head union president is
scared of fines and jail. This regime knows they can get away with
anything, it was tested at cn and cprail by Hh the creator of the new
rule book. His way or the highway. Sure Hh had to pay out grievances he
lost, but the stress he caused to employees, Hh loved it. Foote just
uses all the tactics from Hh rule book, Foote was side by side with Hh
at cn and cp and learnt what he could get away with. I hate to say it
but, your just going to have to put up with this kind of treatment or
move on to something else.

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Name: SHOCKED
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 August 2019

ITS A MIRACLE!!!


Just read the article in the Smart magazine I received  in the mail.

PREVISICH: FRA HAS DECIDED TO ABANDON SAFETY OVERSIGHT DUTIES!
Fra's decision to abandon railroad workers and the safety of the
American people is devastating to me personally and to the people that
I respect!

This article is a must read!  If this man is really honest about his
feelings and what he has stated in behalf of all railroad workers then
we need to rally behind him no matter how we feel about the actions of
our unions at this moment

To quote a few paragraphs:  In reference to foreign train crews
allowing to cross the border into Texas.....Despite what you hear from
any industry representative, those crews are not certified by American
standards. 
What we have done here is the FRA has no opportunity for oversight,
they can only take the word of the railroads, and the railroads have
PROVED HISTORICALLY THAT THEY CANNOT SELF-REGULATE IN THE SAFETY ARENA
WITHOUT OVERSIGHT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!  I can personally testify to that in federal court.
Not only have I been forced to work on jobs without a pilot when one
should have been provided, but every single week a crew from CSX comes
into our yard not having a clue about it and has to get on the radio
and have the locations of tracks and switches explained to them over
the radio. You tell me how it is safe that CSX's own employees have to
ask for help and are forced into job situations without a clue of
knowing their territory. The excuse of lack of manpower and the OH SO
FAMOUS QUOTE "It's 10 mph or restricted speed so you can come in and
do your work without someone there to assist you. We can tell you what
you need to know over the radio."
Whether it is sunny, dark, raining like cats and dogs or it is so foggy
you cant see a foot in front of your face there should be someone with
the crew who is familiar with the yards and territory  to assist anyone
who does not know where they are or what to be looking out for.  CSX is
notorious for doing this unsafe and dangerous practice on a regular
basis.

Precision railroading:  Previsich said it all and told the truth, the
whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

"It has nothing to do with precision anything! What it is, is hedge
fund investors moving into an industry that was well-operated, well
funded, and well maintained and HARVESTING MONEY that should be going
to future operations, capital improvements, investing in the industry
and instead their putting it into this months bottom line, lowering
their operating ratios by reducing staffing and operations to the point
that customer service in impacted, railroad worker safety is impacted!

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

The truth has been spoken. The proof is right there in front of
everyone's face in the United States. Every single time someone is
denied time off and they are told it is because of MAN POWER SHORTAGES
that says it all!  When someone is assessed discipline points for
taking a day off to recover from an illness and they have proof they
went to see a physician this is intimidation and harassment that has
been developed to scare employees into coming to work sick. This is a
scare tactic to cover manpower shortages they have created. The ill
employee must endure the discipline because of the company which is
being run and manipulated by a hedge fund.

CSX Attendance policy effective June 1st, 2019 states:

Attendance issue- Off sick-WITH VALID MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION  2 POINTS

The disclaimer under the points schedule states:
Employee will not be assessed any points under this policy for absences
due to approved leave under the family and medical leave act
AND/OR A WORK RELATED ILLNESS OR INJURY SUPPORTED BY A VALID DOCTORS
NOTE SUBMITTED TO THE MEDICAL DEPARTMENT.

WORK RELATED??   So if an employee gets sick after eating out with his
family, the only way he could be covered with no points is to go to the
emergency room. Hospitalization or emergency treatment is the only way
per the policy that you can be covered and not be assessed discipline
points.  Lets not forget the new written system bulletin that states if
your going to be off longer than 24 hrs. you now have to call a manager
and get approval to be off. 

This is just a fine example of how the new hedge fund has taken over
and decided to intimidate employees into reporting to work. Cutting the
workforce and counting on those who need their jobs and have families to
support to show up at any cost. Safety to themselves or the safety to
others they work with is of no concern to this regime.
Precision railroading is nothing more that what Mr. Previsich has
stated. The FRA has jumped ship. It is time for the crews of the
railroad to step up and be heard. Call your state representatives. Call
OSHA and the USDOT when you see violations. Circulate the article out of
the magazine. Give it to your neighbors and family members. The more we
get it out there the better off we are. No one is going to help us. We
must help ourselves.
View the video. Tell your family members how to view the video. Post
links to it. 
Smart transportation website- WWW.smart-union.org/td

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Name: Stupid is right
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 August 2019

There is no cure for stupid yet! People are there own worst enemies,
management that makes rules and policies for company employees, and 
some union members are intimidated to break them. I’ve seen where
higher management has fired both flunky managers and union employee,
for not following company policy. O -well !!!

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