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Rule #1 -- Don't get hurt.

    Safety is the first priority. Er, or is it the second, after money.... Or the third after getting the trains out....



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Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 February 2019

Csx still suxs one year later

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Name: Engineer
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 February 2019

DISPATCHERS!

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE when we tell you that our power has problems
when we do that long job briefing or report it in line of road will you
do as you say you are going to and report the issues to the yard we are
going to. Are you reporting it to Mechanical? Who are you reporting to
when you say you are going to. I sware if I roll in one more time with
screwed up power and the YM and TM jump my behind because they wanted
to split it up and use it on different trains and say I didn't let
anyone know Im just going to have to throw you under the bus. I will be
taking exact times and exact words that you use and if I have to I will
write a statement stating that I did my job and notified someone.  If
These TM aren't checking with mechanical to see if the power was
reported then I apologize if that's what your doing. If you keep
forgetting or you don't job brief with the next dispatcher then you
can take you arss whipping like we keep getting!

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Name: Loco
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 February 2019

Brothers


That bulletin that came out on the rules of cutting away from cut on
air was not meant to be for cars on yard air/air plants. It was talking
about cars that are on air with a motor. I can see after looking at it
again how some could think it meant cars on yard air as well. I pointed
it out to a TM and he thought the same thing!

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Name: 
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Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 February 2019

Lets make the COMPANY money today and us some money.

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Name: Engineer
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 February 2019

Engineer 1-10. 

I think I know what's confusing you. I work in a yard where we pull
cuts into the yard when we arrive that have air plants that attatch to
the end of the cut. When I walk up to the head end and cut the power
away I always close the angle cock after we cut away so the cars have
air pumping on them. That's what we have always been instructed to do.
I think the instructions in bulletin are just reminding you to make sure
you have the angle cock open if your attatching it to the head end.
obviously the Air can't blow through if you dont.

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Name: Air brakes
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Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 February 2019

https://movecoal.org/component/rsfiles/preview?path=2014%2BOperations%2Band%2BMaintenance%2BConference%2B-%2BPark%2BCity%2BUT%252FCarriereOM14.pdf
There is more to air brakes than set up and release!

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Name: Retired Now
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 February 2019

Interesting reading.   

Makes a person wonder just what do they teach new hires at the
conductor school regarding train air brakes and train air brake
systems.  Surely there is operational experience(s) for a while,
after that when actually out in the field for that training and after
being marked up - some areas have all types of weather conditions.

Then later on, what all do they teach in engineer training regarding
train air brakes and air brake systems?

WTH?

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Name: Number8 vent value
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Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 February 2019

https://studylib.net/doc/18149107/8-vent-valve--part-no.-581602---wabtec-technical-information

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Name: To up
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Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 February 2019

When carman at cp do a break test with midtrain power and they remove
headend power. We isolate the midtrain power and put our air machines
on each cut, and test it. You cannot run yard hydrant air threw slave
power. Nothing to it,when you put train into emergency on in cold
weather a lot of times the emergency portions on cars stick open and so
do number 8 vent values. That is why you. Canít get calibration,if in
the yard we carman drive the train find the leaks. But on the road you
have to walk it not fun.

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Name: UP
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 February 2019

Always cut away with the (cars) angle cock open whether it be a full
service application or an inbound inspection 70 lb reduction (also
needed for cold weather).

The question here is your next step. How will you charge the cars on
yard air if the angle cock is not open? Angle cock should always be
open with the exception of short runaround moves to put power on the
other end. There are 3 other exceptions in the UP rulebook, just wait
til you wrap your head's around distributed power.

Always tie hand brakes unless local instructions indicate otherwise.

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Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 February 2019

Just got my refunds back most Iíve ever gotten . Took two weeks to get
it . Trump gave us a huge standard deduction . Thanks Trump u got my
vote 2020 .

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Name: Engineer
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 February 2019

Carman 
Bulletin says:
Before cutting away from cars connected to air:

1. Make a full service brake pipe reduction 
2. Verify that the brake pipe exhaust stops before closing the angle
cock.
3. Ensure the angle cock is open on the equipment to be left
unattended.  

This pretty much says straight up to open the angle cock on the cars
before you leave.

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Name: Bottled air
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Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 February 2019

I can remember back in the 1980s a crew, had a drag train picked up
grain at several elevators. Had I think 70 cars they pulled down the
main line stopped short of a crossing the conductor put couple
handbrakes on and he bottled the air so train would pump up faster when
they got back to there train. They took the power about five miles east
to small town for dinner. Half hour later they where called on radio
asked why there train was going west. The run away went for miles hit
speeds of 75 miles an hour and derailed every car on first curve. Crew
fired!

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Name: Air
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 February 2019

As a carman for 35 years Iíve never heard of anyone being told to pump
train with air and leave angle cock open on the other end. Iím glad
people ask questions for things they donít understand. And not assume
and guess, that is how people die. Ask a employee to explain it to you
in person, until you find the answer you are looking for. You do not
look dumb asking, the guys that scare me are the ones that think they
know it all, and get hurt or hurt others.

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Name: loco
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 February 2019

Engineer

No one seems to understand what you are asking.  Yeah, it seems stupid
to put cars on air and leave one end open. You are taught that putting
cars on air is to pump them up and get them ready for a break test or
to release the brakes. You can leave the cars on air with the angle
cock open and the air will eventually make its way through the train.
In the winter a little air on the cars is better than none. It wont
take as long to charge. Im sure you understand the emergency
application and didn't need that explained to you. All cuts should
have handbrakes applied when you leave them.  
The second part of that rules tells you not to dump the air. Cut away
with angle cock closed on cars and then open it slowly. They don't
want a full emergency application because of the cold weather. Some
guys say this is bottling because you didn't let all the air release
in an emergency application. It isn't. The angle cock is left open.

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Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 February 2019

If BOTH the angle cocks are turned/closed on each side of a air charged
cut beforehand, even if a brake pipe reduction is made prior,  then
yeah, that is bottling the air.  Equipment air applied brakes can and
will leak off.  

If cutting away from cars\train on air and leave the angle cock
(valve) open on the cars\train cut away from = emergency application,
then air brakes are applied and that portion of train may not move
independently at all if ever not bumped into, subjected to strong
winds, etc., if on a level surface.  If in any doubt, OR cars are to be
there a while - apply handbrakes.  

Hook up an air ground line (bottling air) = apply hand brakes.

Heck, the rules = handbrakes.

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Name: engineer
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 February 2019

Carman

Thankyou but I understand what you are talking about. What I don't
understand is why would you put cars on air and leave the other end
open. There are handbrakes applied and tested on the cars we set out.
So if they are being pumped up there should be no reason to worry about
a run away. Just don't get the point of putting them on air if your not
going to close both ends and pump them up.

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Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 February 2019

I'm not seeing it.    I kept more of money in 2018.   I just received
My refund for the same amount as previous year. Give or take a 100.  
You guys must have been claiming all kinds of BS.

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Name: To taxes
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 February 2019

Ya maybe you can get some answers from HR,they take from peter to give
to Paul. Working man pays for the poor and the rich. In past I have had
a raise on my pay and it put me in a hirer tax bracket and I took home
less pay!!!!

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Name: Carman 
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Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 February 2019

When you cut off a cut of cars, you end up putting the cars in
emergency. If you close the anglecock after you  cut power off. You
creat a condition called bottling the air. When this happened air from
your resorvoir tanks can leak into the train line and build up pressure
that will start releasing the brakes. Many train have been runaways
because of this practice.

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