Safety First

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Name: fra
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 June 2018


The Indianapolis office has been shut down for some time. If you have a
complaint to file for violations of federal law by an FRA agent or
violations of ethics set forth by the USDOT as well as violations
committed by any railroad supervisor you must contact the Region 4
office in Chicago.


If you feel that you are not being taken seriously or you are not
getting any of your calls or emails answered then you can call the
Washington D.C. office at 202-493-6014

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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 June 2018

FRA this, FRA that.  
Big business U.S. RRs don't fear that agency.
Lame duck and company friendly.  
Threat of fine(s) and/or worse to a lowly employee is a big deal

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Name: Inspection
Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 June 2018

In Canada at cprail under Hh, we where given 30 seconds a side to
inspect a train. 100 car train 100 minutes. They timed us and if you
did not inspect train in that time frame they called you on it. That
was test and inspect. Now if you missed something or something happened
on the road. You where blamed for it and you went for statements. They
had managers not trained to test and inspect. But they had the hogger
do min brake application and pull the train by them. That was the test
and inspect. Now what would of been interesting if there was a wreck
they would have to put the names of managers that did this on paper
work. In Canada transport Canada has no teeth with the big rr. They do
what they want, transport Canada is useless.

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Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 June 2018


Qualified mechanical inspector: 49 CFR 232.5

A qualified person who has received, as a part of training,
qualification, and designation program required under 232.203
instructions and training that includes "hands on" experience under
appropriate supervision or apprenticeship in one or more of the
following: Troubleshooting, inspection, testing, maintenance or repair
of the specific train brake components and systems for which the person
is assigned responsibility.

A trainmaster is not qualified to perform the Class 1 airbrake test and
inspections required on the cars on any train that is being built in the
original terminal. If this happens again you must call the FRA
immediately. Complaining on this website is only helpful to the extent
that people in the public read it and can make inquiries to the USDOT
or the FRA office.  You must report it. Just because an FRA inspector
reads this site doesn't mean he is officially notified that there is a
problem. You must make the call.

As for walking only one side of the train during the pre inspection
process that is illegal as hell. Tell your yard master to purchase a
code of federal regulations and read  232.205.
We have been hearing a lot of rumors about this for the last year about
TM's out in the field rushing crews during the pick up of cars in line
of road and have been watching but have yet to catch one in the act.
Time is on your side. Follow the rules as written in your operating
rules They are very clear how you will do a pre inspection of the cars.
You must do an inspection of both sides of the cars to the best of your

An inspector shall take a position on each side of the car sometime
during the inspection process so as to be able to examine and observe
the functioning of all moving parts of the brake system on each car in
order to make the determination and inspection required by this
section. 232.205


I don't know how to make it any more clear. You must inspect both
sides of each car during your pre inspection before you can do a roll
by release of the cars. If you have any supervisor harassing you or
intimidating you to break these laws then you must report them. Its
that simple. Do not sit there and allow this to continue. You can not
complain and cry all the time because you see this happening and expect
anything to get changed if you just walk away because you are scared of
retaliation. If enough of you stick together and file complaints
together they have no choice to address your claims. If you know of any
FRA inspector who is turning his head or showing favoritism towards the
carrier you can file a complaint with the USDOT. Any inspector who
willingly allows the law to be broken should be removed from his

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Name: ???
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 June 2018


Where did the propane tank go up? Was is another car that wasn't
inspected properly or they blaming the crew. Rerouting traffic away
from the south in Nashville division due to derailment. Was that where
it was

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Name: Cool mo
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 June 2018

Yep. If your bitching about brake sticks and your to big to climb on the
cars to tie handbrakes the a snack machine that takes credit cards is
the last thing your fat ass needs lol why would you post that WOW

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Name: Bystander
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 June 2018

When you going to get out here and start taking control of the unsafe
out of control managers. Just heard a ym tell a carman not to walk both
sides of the cars on his class 1 airbrake test in the original terminal
cause the train was late leaving and they needed it out now. Thank god
he told the ym that was against fra brake law requirements and if he
didn't believe so he could get out the FRA code 49 rule book and read
it to him.  Pissed the ym off.  This shit just keeps getting better and
better out here. Other poster was right. It's going to take someone
dying out here before you get your arsses out here and clean house!!!!

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Name: Will get worse
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 June 2018

As the stock creeps up there will be more cuts, even if it is not
warranted. In the minds of the brass in the ivory tower,they think they
are on the right track and pat themselves on the back. So these managers
will do anything to get the trains rolling. If they be inspected or not.
They will falsified documentation. And lie when it is convenient for
them to do so. So to be safe be prepared for anything. It will get a
lot worse yet people I lived threw it with Hh for 4 years. The stress
just about did me in.

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Name: There goes another one 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 June 2018

Why are so many people quitting the railroad?I know a tm that quit csx
don't understand why with the salary and benefits they have.im
thinking about trying to get on but this makes me nervous to leave my
day shift job

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Name: Loco
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 June 2018


Go screw yourself and your other manager. You don't like people
posting the facts. Try and distract. Won't do you any good. The info
being posted is more than FRA LAW violations. Its damn near criminal.
I'm fact it is. Someone dies cause of these violations the families
better be getting 7 figures.

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Name: CYA
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 June 2018

All crews 

This company is the worst I've ever seen it. The new guys with less
than 5 years have no clue. We thought it was bad when they took over
conrail but that was just a walk in the park.  I'm starting to believe
everything those CN and CP boys have been saying. Ever since this HH
character stepped in its gone to hell. Even conrail didn't allow the
cutting corners and safety violations to the extent this outfit is
doing. The FRA is either totally bought off to  look away or they
don't give at rats butt either anymore. Something bad is on it way.  I

just hope all you guys have your ducks in a row when it does because
you know we're getting the blame first. Dekra is going to back tbem
and file a bunch of bogus reports about us out in the field.  MARK MY

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Name: B Feathers
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 June 2018

Run trains and quit whining.  Quit trying to fu@# the hand that feeds
you.  Do you mean we have to go to work and actually work?!?!?   

Grow the F up and stop being whining,snobbing,lazy,babies.  


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Name: Deez 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 June 2018

Hey Rules, lighten up Francis....Dont be such a cuckhold...You and
Carman can go sword fight later this afternoon...Rules, just be
thankful on this father's day, you were thiiiis close to being

Happy Fathers Day

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Name: Carmen 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 June 2018

This is how much management want to bully the carman. We inspected and
did 1 brake test. The train pulled apart nineteen hundred miles away. I
donít know how many crew changes, but they blamed the Carmen we went for
statements and pulled out of service for thirty days. Any delays they
try and blame some union employee. And we caught managers filling out
paper work for trains that where never looked at because short of
staff. Record everything you work on. Because they look for scape goats
when they need to blame someone. This is what has become of the
industry, no ethic or trust anymore.

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Name: Rules
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 June 2018


Deez...your the root cause of the problem. Go bury the rest of your
waste of time in the sand.

Carmen.....advice was on spot but make sure you tell the engineer over
the radio the exact spot that you started your final inspection of the
class 1 brake test. Have the engineer document the time and confirm
that they are departing without a proper inspection. The FRA needs to
be notified this is happening. Put them on notice.

Rules follower... this has been discussed numerous times in the past.
THE TRAIN.  The engineer has every right to stop and use the restroom
if he needs too. If there is any dispatcher that  suggest he "hold
it" or wait until the next siding and the engineer can not he needs to
notify them that he needs to stop now. If there is resistance or
intimidating behavior exhibited by the dispatcher make a note of the
time and place and the dispatcher on duty.  You may need this if delay
of train charges are filed against you.

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Name: Rule follower
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 June 2018

I was wondering about another rule now that there are inward facing
cameras.  What is an engineer supposed to do about the call of nature
while on the road with no red signal in sight.  It used to be that the
conductor would blow the horn and hit the alerter button for the
duration.  If something happened during that time and the conductor
wasn't a licensed engineer, it would be bad news for the crew.  I
guess tone up the dispatcher and tell them you're stopping.  With a
nice heavy train, it would take you a while to get going again.

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Name: To carman
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 June 2018

Carman they did the same to us when Hh was in charge. And if something
happened they tried to hang the carman. My advice if they pull before
your in position at headend. Write down the car number at the point you
watched it out. And keep a record. Keep every move that you perform. 
They cut staff so deep that they take any short cuts management can.
Safety is the last thing they care about

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Name: Deez 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 June 2018


Sometimes it's best to not give a flip.  Sounds like you could use a
good gal from the Ol Stick it Inn.."Days Inn Chattanooga"..Do
yourself a favor, and worry about getting paid to get laid.  That's
how we roll down here, while on held away, sport....

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Name: Carman
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 June 2018

Bend over/deez 

Stupid shit.. grow the f...do up

For real safety can someone explain how a TM can take over the car
inspectors job when he's trying to finish his class 1 test on the
rollby on a train that is leaving the original terminal?  One avon tm
did the set and release and armed the Tele using the tower yard master
to relay informstion with the engineer. How the hell did he arm the
Tele. He isn't union or part of the crew. The Car inspector told him
over radio a qualified mechanical inspector had to do the job and the
dude had the balls to tell him he was doing it because the Carman was
busy. This stupid shit is a violation for many reasons. Gonna file
claims on the TM for this shit. We are short as hell cause of the cheap
SOB in Jacksonville and now TM are doing our job. On top of that they
are pulling long as hell trains out of yard to knock down signals to
make it look like trains have departed before Carman ever gets to head
and to watch rollby. We miss half the damb train. For now on we are
going to document that we don't see half these trains and not going to
be responsible for the first half.  This outfit is turning into a safety
hazard from hell and where is the FRA in all of this! These TM are
crossing the lines big time and it's time to time slip them. Too
scared to tell their super boss to get Carmen back or kiss their butts.
Wonder what this dekra group has to say about this shit.

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Name: Deez 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 June 2018

Ben Dover

The Days Inn Rivergate , Chattanooga has some real skeezers floating
around this weekend, due to Riverbend Festival.  Pretty good deals to
be found, but I guess I should have passed on spooning.

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