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Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 04 November 2019

Air traffic controllers fired worked for the federal government.

Trump could not fire any railroader(other than maybe Amtrak) for

CSX or the particular railroad would be responsible for making that
determination! They can’t fire us all...

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Name: MaYihAvEaNoThEr
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 November 2019

Tis be da reel deel fore reel.  Burd tRex sa wat bee up.  I sa mi ding a
dong wen da blond be Cumen bi. Hop mi bros be gettin them hoes u no.
Dont tak kno shet frum da boss man.  I be gettin dat bigg monies from
dat lawsuit. Back at Christmas to yeers go.  My law er calls me today. 
I gots all kinds on monies fore dat sno fort.  TY CSX for dat.

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Name: HR 1748 Safe Freight act 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 November 2019

Collective bargaining between most of the nation’s largest railroads,
represented by the National Carriers Conference Committee (NCCC), and
their 12 craft-specific labor unions commenced Nov. 1 with the two
sides exchanging broadly defined demands in preparation for
face-to-face talks to amend contracts setting wages, benefits and work
rules. Some two-dozen smaller railroads also are participating.

Railroad labor-management relations are governed by the 1926 Railway
Labor Act (RLA), recognized as a manual of peace rather than war—its
provisions intended and proven effective at preventing work stoppages
via strikes or lockouts in favor of voluntarily negotiated settlements.
There has not been a national railroad strike in almost three decades.

As RLA-governed labor agreements never expire, but are periodically
amended, there is no clock ticking toward a date-specific settlement
lest there be a work stoppage. Should negotiations falter, either side
may invite guidance from the National Mediation Board (NMB). Both sides
are barred from taking independent strike or lockout action until
formally released by the NMB, and then only after following statutorily
mandated procedures.

More specifically, should the NMB declare a bargaining impasse, the
parties must consider accepting binding arbitration. If not, the White
House has opportunity to appoint a Presidential Emergency Board to make
non-binding recommendations—with built-in cooling-off periods—before a
work stoppage can occur, meaning the public will have significant
advance notice.

In fact, on the rare occasions a national railroad work stoppage has
occurred—and none since 1992—Congress typically steps in with a
back-to-work order that establishes, through legislation, contract
amendments. Such an undesired result by both parties exerts persistent
pressure to reach voluntary agreements.

While history records national rail agreements being reached within
months, negotiations also have dragged on for years—but with trains
continuing to run and union-represented employees continuing to work
under contracts that remain in force until amended through voluntary
agreement or by a third party. The previous round of national
negotiations began in November 2014 and continued peacefully through
2018 when the last of the 12 unions reached a voluntary settlement with
the railroads.

As the cross-serving of contract-change demands (Section 6 notices in
RLA parlance) precedes a previously mutually agreed-upon contract
reopening date—Jan. 1, 2020, in this case—direct negotiations are
expected to begin in January.

Among the most contentious issues anticipated this round are minimum
train-crew staffing (crew consist) related to implementation of
train-safety enhancing Positive Train Control (PTC); employee
cost-sharing of escalating healthcare insurance costs; and
liberalization of work rules to allow carriers greater flexibility in
assigning jobs.

Unlike striking United Auto Workers who had suffered economically
through the General Motors bankruptcy, rail workers have enjoyed salad
days over the past decade, reflecting robust railroad economics.

Since 2005, unionized rail-worker compensation (wages plus the value of
benefits) has increased by 43%, versus 29% for other American workers.
And since 2015, compensation of the highest paid rail workers has
increased by some $33,000 annually, and some $16,000 annually for those
in the lower wage rungs. Rail workers, with average compensation now
exceeding $120,000 annually, place among the top 6% of wage earners
nationwide—above many occupations requiring advanced educational

But as the American economy is slowing owing to a trade war and other
global factors, and rail traffic is showing persistent steep declines
as a result—further negatively impacted by the collapse of coal traffic
as natural gas and renewable energy takes its place—railroad economics
are far less robust. Thus, railroads seek to adjust compensation to
market conditions and comparable industries

The NCCC (part of the National Railway Labor Conference, or NRLC) says
its Section 6 notices are “comprehensive proposals addressing the need
to adapt workplace practices to modern technologies, aggressively move
healthcare plan design and features toward mainstream standards and
achieve better health outcomes, and reach an overall fair and
competitive labor cost structure to position the railroads for
long-term success in the face of the many industry challenges.”

The NCCC is being led this round by veteran labor negotiator Brendan
Branon, recruited late in 2018 to head the NRLC from Delta Airlines
(airline labor-management relations also are governed by the RLA).

Class I railroads within the NCCC coalition include:

CN U.S. operations (Grand Trunk Western, Illinois Central, Bessemer &
Lake Erie and Wisconsin Central).
Kansas City Southern.
Norfolk Southern.
Union Pacific.
Among 24 other railroads represented by the NCCC are Conrail Shared
Assets, Belt Railway of Chicago and Terminal Railroad Association of
St. Louis.

Some railroads are within the NCCC coalition for limited
purposes—negotiating nationally with a limited number of unions, or
limiting participation to just wages or benefits or work rules, or some
combination. CSX, for example, will participate in national handling for
wages, benefits and work rules applying to non-operating-craft unions
(such as clerical, mechanical and maintenance), but not participate in
national handling on wages and work rules with operating crafts (those
representing train and engine workers).

Ten of the 12 rail labor unions—representing near 85% of some 125,000
unionized rail workers—have formed a coordinated bargaining coalition
for this negotiating round. They are:

American Train Dispatchers Association (ATDA).
Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen (BLET).
Brotherhood of Railroad Signalmen.
International Association of Machinists.
International Brotherhood of Boilermakers.
National Conference of Firemen & Oilers.
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.
Transport Workers Union of America.
Transportation Communications Union/Brotherhood Railway Carmen.
International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail & Transportation
Workers Transportation Division/Railroad Yardmasters of America
In announcing its formation, the coalition said, “We understand the
importance of each union’s autonomy to pursue membership-specific goals
within a framework of broad solidarity.”

Not part of the coalition are the Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way
Employes and the International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail &
Transportation Workers (SMART) Mechanical Division, which will
negotiate separately.

Among NCCC objectives for healthcare reform are “changes to achieve
mainstream standards in cost-sharing and plan design.” Railroads say
their net cost for providing employee healthcare insurance—plan costs
minus employee contributions—is 52% greater than average employee
plans; even with cost sharing, railroad healthcare plans pay some 90%
of each member’s family healthcare costs compared to the employee’s
out-of-pocket costs.

Among work rules changes, the NCCC is looking for greater flexibility
in subcontracting in areas “not core to our operations” and that “do
not align with the best deployment and utilization of our skilled

Additionally, the NCCC seeks to reform “provisions that restrict
management discretion over the assignment of work.” Sought is greater
“flexibility over which crafts (as well as employees with certain
qualifications within a craft) may perform work in various
circumstances, when such work may be assigned and performed, the
duration of time the work may be performed, and the circumstances under
which work rules may be relaxed to meet customer demands.”

The NCCC also seeks to “consolidate multiple legacy railroad contracts
within the same workgroup, reducing methods of payment calculation, and
accelerating when certain operational changes may be implemented.” It
also seeks to “relax arbitrary geographical limits on work performed by
train crews, allowing for greater flexibility to timely deploy
well-trained teams to critical projects.”

As to crew consist, two-person crews of one conductor and one
locomotive engineer are required on most Class I railroad freight
trains. “But,” says the NCCC, “to take full advantage” of billions of
dollars in investment in PTC, “railroads must revise outdated or
unnecessary staffing rules that effectively freeze in place current
crew staffing.”

Class I railroads want to “redeploy conductors to ground-based
positions,” calling it “a natural continuation [of the] evolution” that
moved conductors from the caboose to locomotive cab as new technologies,
such as end-of-train devices, were installed. “In the event that
SMART-TD declines to negotiate over crew consist on a multi-carrier
basis, or the parties are unable to agree on changes in crew consist,”
says the NCCC, “the railroads propose an adjustment to compensation.”

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Name: HR 1748 Safe Freight act 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 November 2019


The candidates have had their say, now its your turn at the ballot box
to decide. And before you vote, check out our digital video below.

So no matter whom you choose, choose to vote on Tuesday November 5th.
The stakes are too high for rail workers, retirees and rail families to
sit on the sidelines and let others decide our future.

Greg Hynes
National Legislative Director
SMART Transportation Division

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Name: HR 1748 Safe Freight act 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 November 2019


Something ever railroader needs to pay close attention too

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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 November 2019

Be a head / ringleader of a “wildcat” strike. Live with US Marshals
looking for you.                  Things can be awful out here at times
- could even be worse.

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Name: Pink Floyd
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 November 2019

May I have Another : Hell Yea U bet I'm gonna have me another and
another and another... Please give Trex Big Hug for me, he has them
train masters down to a T. Sounds like he can "Paint" a perfect
picture of Them All.

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Name: X Futurama Railroader
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 November 2019

Well there you go jim.  Call a wildcat strike and see what happens 
As for you "beenin on the rail road"
When reagan was in sounds like you been out there too long 
And their old man I was talkin by experience to I remember when it went
down just that my facts don't line up with your memory

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Name: RRJim
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 November 2019

X Futurama Railroader

I was on the railroad when Reagan fired the Air Traffic Controllers.
The main issue was fatigue & manpower shortages. Reagan didn't give
them a timeline to return to work. ATC's are under the Railway Labor
Act which means striking is not allowed. They had enough. They were
right. Reagan fired them on what he called a wildcat strike. Pretty
funny seeing Reagan had been a union president of the Screen Actors
Guild during the '60s. What we have today is all because of Reagan and
his Trickle Down policy. Make corporations & the wealthy richer hell
with the workers. After he fired them that all happened. Railroaders
became a pawn seeing we too are under the RLA. People might bitch &
complain over rail unions but they've managed to keep the retirement
in place along with affordable healthcare for the employee & their
families. Plus a chance at a decent living. We lost a lot the past 30
years, I won't disagree. It all started with Reagan.

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Name: ape
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 November 2019


I heard that rumor too.  I heard they had a TM working for 2 solid days
without relief. Was covering the other who had vacation and one had 2
days off. I don't believe that shit for a moment. I don't think the
USDOT would allow that by law. No one should be up for 2 whole days
supervising the movement of rail shipments. That would just be totally
insane. If anything was to happen to one single employee working under
the supervisors watch and they were on their second day staying up the
injured employee would walk with $$$$$$$$$$!

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Name: RE:overworked trainmasters
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 04 November 2019

”How can a TM work 2 days all day without a break”

You serious? Let them work until their eyeballs pop out their fucking
heads. Why don’t you send your wife over to the tower and minister to
your overworked trainmasters.

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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 November 2019


Keep them coming MayIHaveAnother.   Put it to the blonde 1 hard time
for all the brothers on the rail.

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Name: conductor
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 November 2019


Your absolutely right. Trump hates unions with a passion and everyone
who has lived in Indiana their entire lives and is old enough to know,
has the knowledge that the republicans did and will always do what ever
they can to break and block unions.  I know this for a fact. Have family
members who went through the fights from hell with them any time anyone
try to organize anything in Indiana. Just ask any old timer who worked
for Westinghouse.
As for the railroads, they got the dollars and the political pull to
bribe and pay who ever they want to get what they want. This is all
going to be a horse an pony show. I big show put on to all railroad
union members. They wont get involved and they sit back and let their
unions run ram rod on them. The frickin Mafia got away with it forever
until someone with balls fired the first shot. I don't see it
happening. A lot of bitching and crying about how the union sucks and
wont fight for their members. We will all end up with a lot less
protection and a lot less money. 

TREX is a bird brain.
Young pups who don't come from union background don't know squat
about any damn union or how they work.
Company is hell bent on doing away with YM unions.
How can a TM work 2 days all day without a break?

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Name: May I have another
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 November 2019

Yo yo yo my broedahs shizzle fo da wizzle. Sno fort weader be up on us.
Trex be  integrelz to da proses of da sno fort. Dat bird be
relentunless in da persut of sno fort perfetin. Weez gonza have a jiant
slides and a sno balz canun alons wit Trex favo part a birds ness ova
lookins da plase. Weez gona hav gran openin csx sucks dae ans gonsda be
servin up free yello sno cones an hot dogs fo all trainmasters. Da
blonds downs da strete will be servin em up wearing bekeenee an sno
butes. Shuld be a guud turns outs.

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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 November 2019

X Futurama RRer

What the fuck are you going on about?   Talk about someone running
their dick washer.

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Name: X Futurama Railroader
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 November 2019

Yeah and the demon rats love workers right that's why bill Clinton 
signed NAFTA into law after he ran the campaign and said he was not
going to sign it... lot of you young guys don't know what you're
talkin about because you go by what you're told by union morons but
people that been around long enough know what the real story is.
Keep buying into the demon rat good Republican bad bull shit.
Just like I've heard the story about how Reagan fired the air traffic
When the real story is they were out on strike and he gave them a
deadline to return to work and when they didn't they got themselves

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Name: Hugh Jorgan
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 November 2019

May I have another

Sounds like Trex is wise.  I enjoy the shenanigans.  I know its almost
snow fort time.  Is trex gonna be a part of that too?

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Name: RRJim
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 November 2019

Cond 10-20

I'm surprised to see SMART joining up in the coalition. I didn't see
the BMWE on the list. I think this will be a long hard fight this time
around. I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up in a strike after
everything is exhausted. That takes 3-4 years to get to. Right now
Trump is an advantage for the railroads. Trump has always hated unions.
The railroads will use it.

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Name: BirdTrex
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 November 2019

Dat b wat me taken bout.   Me hav two tak a dup. Dat bee a tranemastur.

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Name: conductor
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 November 2019

loser may I

get a job. You think your funny but your not. Your stupid shit isn't
helping anyone. That's the problem out here now. High school grade

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