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Name: Pointspread Pauper
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Posted: 22 February 2012

Suzannah,

Of course you are a shill for CSX Corporate, my dear.

Who in the readership do you think feels any different?


You and NoMo have to stick to the topic of "gate crossing accidents"
and the driver being at fault because once you move outside that
"zone" of safe conversation...

...you then have to defend conduct that CSX itself cannot defend.

There are serious issues of "stewardship" and "trust" not to commit
regulatory violations which affect the safety of police officers,
firefighters and paramedics and yet you can't talk about those
subjects precisely because...

...CSX has no answer themselves.

CSX has just been found guilty of firing an employee who obeyed the law
and reported worker injuries. They then told that employee he failed to
meet a Federal hearing/audiology standard when NO SUCH FEDERAL STANDARD
EXISTS.

The jury didn't buy into CSX's counterarguments; neither did the
judge who had the option of throwing the verdict out

 It does not take much to intuit that the intent of CSX was to frighten
 into silence 40 or so other employees who may have witnessed what
happened to their coworkers and leave EVEN MORE dangerous violations go
unreported.

CSX is going to be publicly confronted as to whether that doctor was
referred to the 'disciplinary committee' of his State Medical
Association for lying to a patient.

The physician first serves the patient and not the corporation....

...but the Police Chiefs are going to worry about the UNREPORTED yet
not UNKNOWN violations that may have endangered safety even more.

It is TOO GREAT A RISK to leave the CSX Corporate Officials where they
currently are

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Name: Pointspread Pauper E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 February 2012 Anonymous wrote: SORRY TO BE SO DOUBTFUL BUT, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE MOTIVE BEHIND THE CORRUPTION? IN YOUR MINDS EYE, HAVE YOU MADE ANY CONNECTIONS BETWEEN RAILROADS AND THE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION? IF SO, LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS. YOU SAY YOU KNOW EXCATLY WHO NEEDS TO BE PUT IN PLACES OF DECISION TO CLEAN THIS INDUSTRY UP. WHOEVER HE/THEY ARE, THEY ARE CERTAINLY NOT AMERICAN. EXAMPLE? DO YOU KNOW PEOPLE WHO CAN TAKE OUT WARREN BUFFET WHO IS NOW A RAILROADER? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- No need to apologize and I agree 100% with the underlying premises behind your doubts. There were most certainly the same legitimate concerns about the all-powerful European Oil Interests in Nigeria who were contracting with outside provinces to provide support services. So the idea of Nigerian women stripping naked in a "shaming ritual" may have been scoffed at in terms of "potential efficacy" against the power of the Europeans. A Nigerian "Brainy Smurf" may have said, "It'll never workkkkkk!" ...but it did. Support services are now provided by local vendors You couple a LEGITIMATE ISSUE within the arena of "public policy formation" with people who have a demonstrated record of being willing to make a spectacle of themselves and you have a recipe for unparalleled success. I don't speak for Sheriff Bratton, but he's no pushover... he stood up to Norfolk Southern numerous times Any local official who takes this action is going to be thrust into a journalistic spotlight which other localities will take notice of... ...and that segues into something the railroads DON'T WANT; to wit, more communities being clued in to their conduct. It is the LOCAL OFFICIALS who have to be satisfied that the danger no longer exists.... ...and that danger can be LIFTED IMMEDIATELY with those 4 people in place and rail traffic can resume. BNSF Railway is probably the worst offender of the Big 4. I can imagine the communities of Bellingham, WA demanding that Warren Buffet's farmer son, the heir apparent to ethics at BH, comment on the conduct of BNSF as his first "litmus test". Buffet will grab a neutral corner and be furious at the BNSF executives who were unable to capably shield his son from getting blindsided by the conduct of BNSF. View This Article

Name: suzannah E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 February 2012 Pauper, Jumping around to shill for csx....boy you are rich... anyone and everyone who has seen my post on this site since 2006 is laughing now. You my man are not only nuts but I am now beginning to think you are on here just to keep up the bickering. My comments and questions have been the same since my first post. Not one time have I ever seen pines post anything on here that would be of any help to address one of the main problems at hand. Like you, he has done nothing but rant about the faulty crossings, illegal reports,coverups and blah blah. We all know it happens. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that most people who get hit by trains dont see them! The idiots that try to outrun my train and go around the gates dont count in this equation. They are just plain fools. But those who are distracted by their phones, music, passengers or god knows what else they are doing obviously need some other form of warning to make them LOOK! I spent hours talking to hundreds of children teaching them the dangers of playing on and around the tracks. I hope one day when they get their drivers license and they are getting ready to cross that track where the gates arent working properly that they think back to the day they spent with me and look before they pull infront of that train thats charging down on them! So what have you done to try and find a solution for this? I would love to know. Just like I posted earlier.....got any ideas! View This Article

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 February 2012 Pointspread ....and I know exactly who needs to be put in places of decision-making authority to clean this industry up as well as the regulators SORRY TO BE SO DOUBTFUL BUT, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE MOTIVE BEHIND THE CORRUPTION? IN YOUR MINDS EYE, HAVE YOU MADE ANY CONNECTIONS BETWEEN RAILROADS AND THE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION? IF SO, LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS. YOU SAY YOU KNOW EXCATLY WHO NEEDS TO BE PUT IN PLACES OF DECISION TO CLEAN THIS INDUSTRY UP. WHOEVER HE/THEY ARE, THEY ARE CERTAINLY NOT AMERICAN. EXAMPLE? DO YOU KNOW PEOPLE WHO CAN TAKE OUT WARREN BUFFET WHO IS NOW A RAILROADER? View This Article

Name: Pointspread Pauper E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 NoMo wrote: Hey Pauper: Enough of your Bull Shit...you have done nothing but repost and repost. You must really like to hear yourself talk. I thought Pines was the king of the cut and paste, and the master of deflection. You make Pines look like an amateur and almost sane. You posted almost two years ago how you would sink the NS, you're still spewing the same Bull Shit...how's you plan working out for you? Evidently not so good. When you get it done, I'm sure some Pulitzer Prize winning reporter for an award winning national newspaper will report it. Until then shut the fuck up. And I thought Pines was a loser. If you spent as much time trying to accomplish your goals as you do typing about it, you might actually get something done! Do us all a favor and go back to Vegas...to ply yourself professed considerable skill at the Blackjack tables. The Pit Bosses will be glad to see you again. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rome was not built in a day... ...and corporate executives don't allow the physical safety of someone to be threatened unless they themselves are panicked about it. This is not behavior/conduct that the railroad wants to vigorously defend; this is conduct they don't want discussed at all...by anyone.. at anytime. Ensuring that the "political" and "bureaucratic" apparatuses grabbed a neutral corner and left the railroads figuratively "twisting in the wind" was not the easiest thing in the world to engineer... ...but the "Wick Moorman $250 million polygraph challenge" should do the trick. No politician is going to say to trackside residences thatthey have to put their childrens' physical safety at risk & believe what Norfolk Southern says and yet the politicians NOT BE WILLING TO risk their own life savings. There are around 11 people who can be polygraphed on the UPS contract scam. ...and then there are the missing US DOT urine forms that should accompany every US DOT breathalyzer form. Missing documentation kind of takes the suspense out of the outcome of the polygraph results...but it's still great theater. View This Article

Name: Pointspread Pauper E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 Dave wrote: "Pointspread pauper What's your point? [citing "Pointspread Pauper"] "Maybe the FRA would like to take on the more vocal, determined subset of 8,000 citizens from Cameron Station (Alexandria), VA... ..actually, the FRA's Drug/Alcohol Testing Official will get the chance to explain his conduct while a whistleblower to the FRA was being "feloniously intimidated" for reporting crimes of "fraud" to the Norfolk Southern Police Department" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- It is that the FRA is just as guilty as the railroads and they are going to be confronted also 1)Dave Nelson - CSX Whistleblower who was awarded $1.18 million by the US Justice Department 2)FBI Special Agent, Mike Vahue (retired) from Cleveland, OH FBI Squad 3 3)Police Sergeant, Lou Testa of the Richfield, OH Police Department (on detached service) 4)Former Ohio Prosecutor of the Year, Jonathan Rosenbaum from Lorain County,OH ...these 4 will be taking control of the nation's rail operations and begin the swapping in of people who lost their jobs for obeying the law and REMOVING FROM EMPLOYMENT those who punished the ethical people. Ex-Prosecutor Rosenbaum is a big, big fan of "voice lie detectors" and "polygraphs" View This Article

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 COME ON NoMo! No one wants to hear your filty mouth and your condesending posts. You present NO arguement for your stance except, to go into some tyrantical rage. GIVE THE RAILROADERS A CHANCE TO SPEAK! If you can go back years to find posts, then it can be assumed you are monitoring them. What's your reasoning for this behavior? View This Article

Name: Pointspread Pauper E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 Anonymous wrote: "Pointspread Pauper Do you think Bogdanich came up with his series Death on the Tracks on his own? Actually, most of his reports came from information provided by this CSX-Sucks sight. He had an old friend from the Plain Dealer Paper who told him "If you ever want a story do it on the railroads." He immediately found himself knee deep in political and corporate corruption. The truth that would make "Water Gate" look like child's play was never reported, as a matter of fact, Bogdanich covered up most of these truths. As railroaders we must go on, knowing our way is paved with not only corrupt corporate but, political, regulatory, and judicial system that is "self serving". I too think Pines is a valid contributor to this sight as I also think his rivals are corporate plants." ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ .....I'm familiar with where Bogdanich got his initial sourcing. I understand that what went on underneath may not have all been reflected in print. There is going to be an INITIAL attempt by the railways to persuade the locals that they are a bunch of swell individuals. The public officials and cities I mentioned in Georgia, Ohio, & Virginia have all had a track record of frustrating experiences with Norfolk Southern &/or CSX That's why they are the INITIAL GROUP that is being exposed to this; they already know what these snakes are like. The balance of the new introductees may need some schooling and Bogdanich's article coupled with those of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune on BNSF, the Press-Enterprise Article and Jennifer Brookland of NEWS 21 as well as KLAS-TV in Las Vegas and KOMO-TV in Washington State... ...all those stories serve to show that these rail executives are snakes AND Bogdanich's articles show the Politicians and Regulators are in bed with them The ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION relies on conduct, not news articles. Yet first demonstrating that these people can't be trusted by referencing NUMEROUS journalistic articles ("you want to win a Pulitzer? Do a story on the railroads") is a "strategy move" on my part. It prevents me from having to do more legwork later on. I know exactly what I'm doing ... ....and I know exactly who needs to be put in places of decision-making authority to clean this industry up as well as the regulators View This Article

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 The posts are FINALLY reaching a point of substance rather than name calling. The posts (until now) have been some of the most mindless I've ever encountered and are intentionally designed to discredit this sight. The exceptions would be railroad buffs and those who have been brain washed by OLI. That's not a put down, I too fell into the same OLI "brainwash trap" in the past. Just a thought Web-Master: The FRA monitors this sight, while claiming to have an all-out effort to reduce crossing accidents, while investigating less than one % of all accidents. The FRA donates $1 million each year to OLI to promote crossing safety. I think the FRA should donate the $1 million annual contribution to your sight rather than OLI. Think of all the beer! View This Article

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 Hey Pauper: Enough of your Bull Shit...you have done nothing but repost and repost. You must really like to hear yourself talk. I thought Pines was the king of the cut and paste, and the master of deflection. You make Pines look like an amateur and almost sane. You posted almost two years ago how you would sink the NS, you're still spewing the same Bull Shit...how's you plan working out for you? Evidently not so good. When you get it done, I'm sure some Pulitzer Prize winning reporter for an award winning national newspaper will report it. Until then shut the fuck up. And I thought Pines was a loser. If you spent as much time trying to accomplish your goals as you do typing about it, you might actually get something done! Do us all a favor and go back to Vegas...to ply yourself professed considerable skill at the Blackjack tables. The Pit Bosses will be glad to see you again. View This Article

Name: Pointspread Pauper E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 Wow NoMo your jumping around like a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. You check your meds? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Howdy Robert, NoMo and Suzannah have to employ that "jumping around" evasion in an attempt to shill for CSX Corporate... ...the thing is...the answers from CSX Corporate are not going to be any better than what NoMo and Suzannah are throwing at the readership right now.... Couple that with the fact that the "preponderance of the evidence" threshold means that ANY FUTURE CSX "public" or "investigative" responses get measured against "the totality of the circumstances" motif as to whether they are "more likely true than untrue" and CSX, Norfolk Southern, BNSF Railway, and Union Pacific all have to keep their mouths completely shut from a strategy perspective. The instant that any of their PR people throw out a lame excuse like Rudy Husband did in the Herndon, PA incident and that response gets "sliced & diced" faster than Julienne French Fried Potatoes in a Ronco VegaMatic. The newspaper reporters themselves jumped all over Rudy Husband's inadequate response in the Herndon,PA incident. Couple that with the fact that the Pennsylvania State Trooper directly contradicted the assertions of the Norfolk Southern Police as to who was in charge of the investigation... ...and you've got an issue that serves to show Norfolk Southern does not hold the confidence of local officials to behave in a "trustworthy fashion" as "stewards" are required to do. It was not just a "transient" aka "hobo" who was affected here. It was "rescue workers" also The Courts are not going to side against a Police Chief or Fire Chief who says, "we're not going to be compelled to break out our Rudy Husband decoder rings to determine whether there is something deeper that needs to be intuited from Norfolk Southern's response..." "I can't risk the safety of my police, fireman, or paramedics based on the possibility of a similar type of response that Norfolk Southern gave in the Herndon, PA incident..." "Couple that Herndon response with the: 1) OSHA ruling on the EJ Harriman Award, 2) the NTSB stating in the Gardeau/Sizerville derailment had "quietly loosened" aka "deceptively disobeyed" track inspection standards PLUS 3)the conduct of Norfolk Southern Internal Audit Committee #2009-178 regarding felonious threats of physical violence made to a whistleblower and his family who was reporting the crime of "fraud" to the Norfolk Southern Police and regulatory violations to the FRA ...and I am on solid ground to state that the current management of Norfolk Southern cannot be trusted not to exceed the 100% allowable level of danger that full compliance with the Federal Safety Regulations allow. I therefore make the ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION based on the standard of proof known as "something less than a preponderance of the evidence" to deny Norfolk Southern passage of rail traffic through my jurisdiction until such time as I feel the threat to the safety of my police officers, fire fighters, paramedics and constituents no longer exists" I, as Police Chief, have applied a much "higher standard of proof" to Norfolk Southern's responses; to wit, "preponderance of the evidence" in evaluating whether each response by Norfolk Southern to my investigators is "more likely true than untrue" Norfolk Southern can't admit to the conduct they engaged in and their answers to the Police Chiefs current questions get evaluated under the "more likely true or untrue" standard within the "totality of the circumstances" A co-morbid double-whammy to be certain. View This Article

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Name: Dave E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 Pointspread pauper What's your point? Maybe the FRA would like to take on the more vocal, determined subset of 8,000 citizens from Cameron Station (Alexandria), VA... ..actually, the FRA's Drug/Alcohol Testing Official will get the chance to explain his conduct while a whistleblower to the FRA was being "feloniously intimidated" for reporting crimes of "fraud" to the Norfolk Southern Police Department View This Article

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 Pointspread Pauper Do you think Bogdanich came up with his series Death on the Tracks on his own? Actually, most of his reports came from information provided by this CSX-Sucks sight. He had an old friend from the Plain Dealer Paper who told him "If you ever want a story do it on the railroads." He immediately found himself knee deep in political and corporate corruption. The truth that would make "Water Gate" look like child's play was never reported, as a matter of fact, Bogdanich covered up most of these truths. As railroaders we must go on, knowing our way is paved with not only corrupt corporate but, political, regulatory, and judicial system that is "self serving". I too think Pines is a valid contributor to this sight as I also think his rivals are corporate plants. View This Article

Name: RainMan E-mail: sherisranch@Nomo.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 Anyone know how to find this signal? http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BFW/is_6_104/ai_n27908790/ The supporting Wayside Alarms Management Systems (WAMS) office applications provide the user interface for alarm acknowledgement, initiating control functions and a Web interface to field locations. View This Article

Name: Pointspread Pauper E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 NoMo wrote: Hey Pauper: Comment on what? Pines already answered the question..."By the way Nomo---The Google map born on date is on the map. If you would have stopped and looked you could have seen it. And I really doubt that desert has changed much in 5 years." ------------------------------------------------------------------- ...so it only took how many posts (5 maybe?) to get that out of you where you fled from your own words? _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ NoMo continues: "...substantive change in leadership at the nation's biggest railroads..." Now that's a good one. The only way you'll ever see that is to buy few hundred million in stock in each carrier, then you can demand change. ____________________________________________________________________ I already described the "mechanism of action" that will be used to accomplish the deed and will succeed in US District Court... ...more "carelessness" on your part NOT UNLIKE the Google Satellite Photo slip-up that caused you to flee from your own words till you realized I was not going to let you off the hook on it. You said then, "you can't fix stupid" about other people when you yourself were too stupid to ascertain the Google Satellite Photo Date/Time Stamp. So now you try to tweak what occurred? You said, 'you can't fix stupid'...have you fixed your own stupidness? Evidently not, because you must feel that you are more clever than someone here in the readership that you can manipulate their thinking by avoiding topics you've been busted on and tweaking others to where your conclusion never addressed the original issue. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ NoMo continues: Think you can convince the stockholders to help? Not a chance...as long as the get the ROI they're looking for, they don't care. ____________________________________________________________________ Yes, it is once they see things heading south that the Institutional Investors will start screaming bloody murder and get in the game ___________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________ NoMo continues: Think the general public cares? The only thing they care about is the cost of the products they buy that the RRs transport or when they get held up at a crossing due to a train. ____________________________________________________________________ Correct, the general public does not care like those trackside residents do...and you unknowingly touched upon the crux of the issue from both "political science" and "social psychology"; to wit, "an ORGANIZED MINORITY will always be able to subjugate an UNORGANIZED MAJORITY; it is only when the MAJORITY begins to organize that the MINORITY begins to freak out" "You can't fight City Hall" yet that is what the people of Cameron Station successfully did. You're attempting a "Brainy Smurf" manipulation ("it'll never workkkkk") on the people of Cameron Station who have an established track record of not being manipulated!! You're not smarter than these people at Cameron Station, NoMo __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ NoMo continues: It's a shame anyone dies at a crossing, especially when equipment fails. But then so are drownings, infant deaths due to SIDS, electrocutions, etc. All are preventable yet the still happen. Like I said, people are expendable and a cost of doing business. __________________________________________________________________ The issue for the US District Court is not people dying at crossings which is what you & Suzannah keep jumping back to(because you & Suzannah know that if you venture outside that box you have to defend conduct/misconduct that the rail executives themselves can't defend) The issue before the US District Court Judge is whether Norfolk Southern played Russian Roulette with the "lives"/"physical safety" of the trackside residences in 22 US States attendant to fulfilling the UPS contract and whether the ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION taken by the local officials to shut down rail traffic because Norfolk Southern intentionally went over the 100% allowable danger threshold by intentionally violating Federal Safety Regulations ________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ NoMo continues: All your moral outrage...where was it when the Deep Water Horizon blew up and the Macondo Well blew out in April 2010? That incident did more damage to the environment and impacted more people than every U.S. RR accident combined since day one. ___________________________________________________________________ yeah...but referencing the "social psychology" & "political science" motif above, we have a far greater concentration of individuals in a smaller area... with a group of Cameron Station individuals who eventually forced a City Council an attempt at REGULATION... they'll enjoy much more success by compelling an ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION and they've even made it easier by softening up the City Council the first time. The Alexandria City Council does not want to have to go through that ordeal again at the hands of the Cameron Station folks Successfully shut off a portion of a rail line or a few portions of a rail line and it is like cutting off circulation by arterial compression ______________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ NoMo continues his shill work for CSX: The bottom line here is don't expect help from the public, they don't care, regardless of how many articles are written by Pulitzer Prize winning authors. Shaming the RRs or any other corporation isn't going to work. Think what you will but you need a political solution. ____________________________________________________________________ Actually, it is not a "political solution" and you are attempting to assist CSX by thinking you're smart enough to manipulate the people of Cameron Station into doing what??? ...signing a petition?...writing a letter to their Congressman??? It is not a "political solution"; it is a LOCALIZED "administrative action" that survives a court-applied test and prevents the railroads from ever getting a chance to play the TRUMP CARD that they have always won with in the past ____________________________________________________________________\_______________________________________________________________________ View This Article

Name: Pointspread Pauper E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 Anonymous wrote: "All this talk is getting CSX downgraded.......... CSX Corp. was downgraded by research analysts at JPMorgan Chase & Co. from an "overweight" rating to a "neutral" rating in a report issued on Tuesday." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ That's doubtful or to be more correct, "coincidental" However, the $20 billion cap to be levied against each of the major railroads is just NOT GOING TO SUFFICE to spread out $4,500 to each resident who lives along "railroad tracks" for tort compensation due to Russian Roulette having been played with their lives... ...no, $20 billion is not enough.... ...but a few reality game shows like "Is Your Trainmaster Smarter Than a Fifth-Grade?" and the "Wick Moorman $250 Million Polygraph Challenge" may close the gap to some small extent. You see, US Congressman Bill Shuster & Governor Bob McDonnell will gladly join Norfolk Southern CEO and all the Norfolk Southern key executives in handing over their entire net worth to be escrowed for distribution to trackside residences in tort compensation should Norfolk Southern lose the "Wick Moorman $250 million Polygraph Challenge" regarding the UPS contract with Norfolk Southern. I mean, of course Governor Bob would never ask his trackside constituents to risk the "lives" and "physical safety" on the less-than-credible assertions/responses by Norfolk Southern WHEN GOVERNOR BOB won't even join in with Wick Moorman and risk his "life savings" I sense a Disney movie in Governor Bob walking home to his wife and telling her, "Honey, I shrunk the bankroll!" ...and Governor Bob's angry wife saying, "Betting on Norfolk Southern is like betting that the Washington Generals will beat the Harlem Globetrotters... didn't you know that there are missing US DOT urine collection forms?" No, no... the Norfolk Southern key executives are out of a job... the politicians are not going to avoid risking their "life savings & pension plans" YET IN THE SAME BREATH ask the residents of Cameron Station to risk their "kids lives" Also, the Cameron Station residents are going to be instructed to contact the Institutional Investors in the NYC Public Employees Retirement Fund and instruct them to divest. Norfolk Southern and the other 3 railroads have engendered MASSIVE TORT LIABILITY which is going to cause the residents of Cameron Station and later the Ohio Communities to get some productive use out of the POLITICALLY-CONNECTED Congressmen... this MASSIVE TORT LIABILITY needs to be footnoted on the railroads' "statement of financial position" aka "balance sheet"... ...so there will be a YouTube Video of the Congressmen being forced by the Ohio, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina & Virginia residents DEMANDING that the SEC freeze Norfolk Southern assets & halt trading in their stock until the "tort liability" for playing Russian Roulette can be assessed. These angry people in Cameron Station were the "real deal"; the Alexandria, VA City Council who were the objects of their wrath were "headed off at the pass" each time they tried to wriggle themselves out of trouble and eventually had to shell out BIG BUCKS to an outside consulting firm to conduct the investigation. The Cameron Station young professionals said to the Alexandria City Council, "No way in Hades that you people are going to investigate yourselves!" United Parcel Service Key Corporate Executives will be informed of what Norfolk Southern was doing to meet the terms of the UPS contract and the people of the communities will offer those executives the ULTIMATUM; "terminate the contract that was used to place our families lives in danger immediately or we will insist to "the replacement set" of decision makers(Jonathan Rosenbaum, Mike Vahue, Lou Testa, & Dave Nelson) for the nation's 4 major railroads that before they haul any more cargo for UPS that all of you corporate executives who refused to terminate the contract immediately be replaced yourselves" That's right... the UPS Corporate Executives will not be able to move any cargo by rail if they continue to allow the sickos at Norfolk Southern who used that UPS contract to endanger lives. ..and when the new decision makers for the railroads are in place, if UPS had not complied earlier, then before any UPS Cargos is allowed on the nation's rails...the ENTIRE contingent of key corporate executives will have to be fired/terminated... ...which ought to take about 36 hours to accomplish their removal by the UPS stockholders. The local communities now have a "nice & legal" predicate to shut down rail traffic that will survive a test in US District Court... ...and those folks in Cameron Station already have an established track record in holding their city politicians accountable because the folks in Cameron Station are young professionals who hand out orders/instructions in their daily jobs... they're not the "blue collar" subordinates They're the "real deal"; there is not a Alexandria, VA City Councilman who would disagree. 1) SEC asset freezure/halt in stock trading 2) Norfolk Southern getting blindsided by screaming, angry UPS executives who are getting dragged into Norfolk Southern's mess. ...and BNSF Railway & Union Pacific are in even worse shape than Norfolk Southern View This Article

Name: Robert Pines E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 Wow NoMo your jumping around like a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. You check your meds? View This Article

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 Hey Pauper: Comment on what? Pines already answered the question..."By the way Nomo---The Google map born on date is on the map. If you would have stopped and looked you could have seen it. And I really doubt that desert has changed much in 5 years." Anything else? Alright, Walt Bogdanich won a Pulitzer in '05...again old news. Internet sleuth...I'll leave the sleuthing to savants like you and Pines. You both seem better suited for it. "...substantive change in leadership at the nation's biggest railroads..." Now that's a good one. The only way you'll ever see that is to buy few hundred million in stock in each carrier, then you can demand change. Think you can convince the stockholders to help? Not a chance...as long as the get the ROI they're looking for, they don't care. Think the general public cares? The only thing they care about is the cost of the products they buy that the RRs transport or when they get held up at a crossing due to a train. It's a shame anyone dies at a crossing, especially when equipment fails. But then so are drownings, infant deaths due to SIDS, electrocutions, etc. All are preventable yet the still happen. Like I said, people are expendable and a cost of doing business. All your moral outrage...where was it when the Deep Water Horizon blew up and the Macondo Well blew out in April 2010? That incident did more damage to the environment and impacted more people than every U.S. RR accident combined since day one. The bottom line here is don't expect help from the public, they don't care, regardless of how many articles are written by Pulitzer Prize winning authors. Shaming the RRs or any other corporation isn't going to work. Think what you will but you need a political solution. Everything that has occurred before now is old news...like a resume, don't tell me what you have done, tell me what you are going to do for me! View This Article

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 February 2012 All this talk is getting CSX downgraded.......... CSX Corp. was downgraded by research analysts at JPMorgan Chase & Co. from an "overweight" rating to a "neutral" rating in a report issued on Tuesday. View This Article

Name: Pointspread Pauper E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2012 Suzannah wrote: "TO ALL POSTERS, I am so sorry and would like to apologize before this gets out of hand(and it will) for posting a simple little question on here...Why dont people LOOK! If I had known it would draw out another graduate from Harvard RR school, I wouldnt have. The question still remains and a solution or at least a preventative measure needs to be developed. I have suggested putting up signs with Jumbo print(no closer than 200 ft from the crossing)that say LOOK!!! Yeah, go ahead and say it.....STUPID IDEA! Might distract the driver from looking ahead....Come on...You guys have got to have some ideas." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ...and now maybe she'll apologize for thinking she was more clever than the balance of the readership as well as the good folk of Cameron Station who'll begin to drift in to read these postings within the week... ____________________________________________________________________ No one denies now nor has ever denied that the majority of crossing accidents are caused by stupid drivers... ...the issue to people living next to the tracks and transloading terminals is: "is there something within the body of evidence or exigent circumstances that can have our Police Chief or Fire Chief to be legitimately concerned that the danger of his constituents or rescue personnel is over the 100% threshold allowed attendant to complete compliance with the Federal Regulations" "Are the assertions of the railroad regarding the OSHA ruling, NTSB ruling, Herndon, PA alleged chemical spill investigation, & criminal acts concerning the whistleblower of Internal Audit #2009-178 more likely to be "true" or "untrue"? ...and Susan will never get around to addressing that topic View This Article