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    Railroaders work, and expect to be paid. It's a simple idea. Less work means less pay. Likewise, more work should mean more pay, but that's not the way things work on the CSX. According to union contracts, there are situations that warrant additional pay, for additional work, but more often than not, these claims are not honored by the CSX.



Webmaster's note:

Since I go through the server logs regularly, I just thought I'd take this opportunity to point out that all of the comments in defense of the company seem to come from Jacksonville, while complaints come from everywhere that the company does business.

You do the math.



Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 July 2010

LE 10-20

All that needs to be done is have a vote for those who will represent
them in railroad/union programs like the BLET SENSE or CSX Safety
committee. That's how we deal with it. No union officer especially the
LC should participate. That in my opinion is a conflict of interest.
Bring it up at the monthly union meeting. My BLET division has been
doing this for quite some time. It'll alleviate any suspician from the
membership. Those voted in can do monthly reports at the meetings.
Biggest problem most people do not fill out the necessary forms to
report safety concerns to their rep. When they go to monthly meeting
they need it in writing so it can be documented. People complain but
their part of the problem. Verbal complaints never get action not like
PI-82's or the BLET Safety forms. On CSX it's pretty much a sham
every month old business is discussed with alot of follow ups. Changing
a light bulb could take 6 months.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 July 2010

Loco 10-20 7/22
Are you kidding, it took you 10 years to figure this stuff out.
I figure at 1k a year you have 10k invested in this.
Man you bought some nice Lobster for the boy's. got a question for ya,
How are things working for YOU?

I know, I Know, gotta let em take my cash every half, can't stand up
and fight the system. I know if they ask on Occasion for a little more,
need to do that so my Budd's do not turn against me.

Why post a bitch about the union, when you are the Union? I think you
are ball less and a follower. No person in their right mind would
continue to do as you are doing, the RR and the Union both know this,
now it is your turn to tell me why?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 July 2010

Railroads, Unions, Lack of Oversight (Corrupt Corporate America)

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Date: 2010-07-19, 5:42AM EDT

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Due to the lack of FEDERAL oversight; some railroad management are
audaciously (bribing) paying union officers FULL SALARIES 
to participate in phantom safety-[ not working] (once a month) programs
as added leverage against employees to control dissent; incite 
intimidation. The union officers are suppose to be bound by honor and
integrity to protect their members from harassment, 
threats for reporting unsafe working conditions and to ensure strict
safe working conditions to prevent distractions that is the 
main cause of accidents. An environment free of intimidation is an
environment free of accidents. 
The last ten years; Railroad CEO's and some union officer's salaries
have quadrupled while the TE&Y employees are at par. 
The major rail (BLET UTU) unions; FOUR out of the last SIX
International Officers have resigned or have been incarcerated due to
misconduct. 
The moral of this alarm is this: if the railroads are encouraging
corruption on local/division level; look at what the 
International Officers are turning-out to be on the national
level...CROOKS-without any FEDERAL OVERSIGHT!

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 July 2010

this has got to be a joke.. A big group of conductors and engineers that
have nothing better to do then cry. I am a signalman with CSX and have
never heard anyone cry and bitch as much as you guys. If you dont like
your jobs then quit. It is because of your rule violations and not
paying attention you ever get in trouble. Everytime I have to go to a
meeting with trans I hate it you are a big group of crying bitches.
Also it was a trans person that is making us work extra hard under FRA
and now we have to add PTC because one of you guys in California killed
a bunch of people while texting. Here is a hint, try to go get another
job and see if you get paid 50+K a year to sit on your ass and complain
because a caller runner didnt bring you ice and crew packs.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 July 2010

took a look at the proposed consolidation that CSX wants to impose. 
Looks like Montgomery and Erwin are really gonna take up the ass.  Also
it is very obvious that CSX is kissing the SCL's ass and wanting to
punish the L&N for voting down the last agreement.  Wow what a great
company to work for.  The L&N local chairmen need to get off there
asses and stop this before shit really hits the fan.  Would like to
hear what everyone else has to say about this horse shit

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 July 2010

Did the webmaster forget about this website? Doesn't look like it has
been updated in the longest time. well besides the daily comments that
people post.

Name: Ms danvill
E-mail: Asmo
Employed as: Yard Master, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 June 2010

Word is Angie smith won her case against Csx . Found Csx guilty on all
counts/sexual harrassment withthanks going too wes knick. Next followed
up by retaliation for daring to report it.. Honor goes to jack Vierling
for firing her . Maybe Csx can sell his black belt in six sigma with
jay fleenors dentures and have enough for attorney fees. Honorable
mention goes to Terry schray and randy hall for nailing down the loose
ends and making sure the jurors had no doubt what a sleazy bunch Csx
has at the hel

Name: red
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 June 2010

I've been laid off and just came back to work.  I'm on the road. Does
anyone know how many qualifing days I need for vacation.

I'm hearing 240 or 234 does anyone know for sure.

Thanks

Name: Dr Ruth
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2010

C&O Joe:

Sounds like to me you may be the one that needs laid. Maybe you and Wes
could do each other since you both seem to be experts on who needs
fucked.

Name: georgekoury
E-mail: georgekoury56@yahoo.com
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 June 2010

in 1976 i was beaten by two black men on a coach of are camp train
working on the CSX Central Regional rail gang. I still suffer many
after affects of this attack. They arrassement me four months stealing
my lunch and calling me filthy names. The experience was a tradfull one
which i will never ever foget

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 June 2010

OK,
Gonna let ya off the hook.
I can hear ya gagging with that 14k hanging in the windpipe.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 June 2010

Friend of CSX worker,

     My wife is pregnant as well and i will be damned if i turn off my
phone.  If i am at work when she calls i will tell her to call the YM
or Train Dispatcher (depending where i am working) one time.  If i dont
get a response in 5 minutes, my ass is off and gone.  They don't want
you to interferer with them making money and your outside life is at
the very bottom of the list of core values

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 May 2010

No, you've been assuming T&E are closer to 5000. Reread my post. To
tell you the truth I could care less. End of discussion.

Name: screw csx
E-mail: screwcsx@gofockyourself.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 May 2010

just wanted to say Happy Memorial Day to all Union brothers and sisters.
 As far as CSX goes, YEP, YOU STILL SUCK!!!  Enjoy and happy drinking!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 May 2010

Jim now listen up
You said 2008-2009 furlough 2500, almost half??
dummy that makes 5k. Man you do it for me.

Now how far is 5k from 14k.

I have seen rocks and a few dumb rocks, you are the Engineer with a
full grip!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 May 2010

RRJ
Just to keep annoying you . What does 1200 train's per day really
mean!

Are these simply the one's that CSX want's to count, or the one's
you want to count.

I bet the CSX is counting Starts, not your imature BS. I would think
after a gazillion years and all of your experience you would know. Heck
man you can not even get the miles and states right.

I gave you 3k and that is a brakeman on half the starts. Piss on about
rock trains, guess they are not trains and require no one.

Good thing you are Retired, However looks like you are simply a foamer.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 May 2010

Angie Smith vs. CSX case goes to court in Danville 0900 Tuesday June
1st. Anyone in the area may want to see this show. Come to the court
house and see all your favorite Characters....Frulla, Vierling,
Fleenor, Wes Knick, Randy Hall, Terry Schray and last but not least a
special guest appearance by no other than Gery Williams. Guaranteed to
have more dirt and scandal out in public than an Jerry Springer
episode.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2010

Have you ever heard of yard crews? Mine switchers? Locals? Rock trains?
Pushers - helper service? Industrial yard switchers? Road Switchers?
Extra Boards? Utilitymen? I'm sure I've left out a few. 14,000 out of
30,000 is about right it is a railroad. By your guesstamites when CSX
furloughed 2500+ trainmen in 2008-2009 they had to do way with over
half their work force. That didn't happen. You sure are an obsessive
little schidt.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 May 2010

From mike ward, CSX home site, info for investors. 2009 Review.

CSX has 21k miles
CSX has 3800 Locomotives.
CSX has 101k cars.
CSX runs 1200 trains per day.(24HRS)
CSX moves 20k cars per day
CSX has 30,000. employees.

Now tell me why they have 14k or more T&E AS PER RRJ.

1200 trains would require, let us say 3k that would be 50% with a
Brakeman? With 14,000 T&E Every one is loving the guarantee as they
only need to work 3 or 4 days a month. Also this means 47% of all CSX
employees are T&E qualified.

OK RRJ your turn to check me out and make me wrong.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 May 2010

Carman in Selkirk NY,I am hearing that the FRA is camped out in Waycross
GA. What is going on, Is Matt Carson still employed?

Name: Drinky the drunk guy
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 May 2010

Sounds like you have an alcoholic trainmaster in Danville WV.  In new
orleans they just had a trainmaster fail a breath test.  He had just
got out of rehab for drinking on the job and Angie Averitte was in NOLA
for a couple of days and tipped him off that the nurse was there to test
him.  He just did not come into work.  The next day they were back and
he showed up and the idiot failed the test.  This trainmaster, Joe
Rider also fired more people than anybody there....and he was caught
drinking on the job.  Think about that for a minute.  That whole
terminals officals are the biggest bunch of drunks on the railroad. 
Angie was over saftery for the Atl Division and could not even drive to
work because she had so many DUI's.

Name: worker
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 May 2010

worlking for CSX is like working for the NAZI's!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 May 2010

I haven't a clue as to the actual number of T&E over the entire CSX
system but 13,000 - 14,000 is not unrealistic. MOW, Signal Dept, Diesil
Shops, clerks ect...are part of CSX Transportation. CSX is comprised of
6 different factions CSX Transportation, CSX Intermodal, CSX
Technology, CSX Real Property, CSX Transflow, Total Distribution
Services Inc that info is from their website. It is a railroad and it
covers 23,000 miles of track. CSXT is it's bread and butter the
other's were formed during the John Snow days when CSX was trying to
diversify.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 May 2010

only been back for less than month after this wonderful company
furloughed me before i could complete training.  Anyways meet all the
train master at my yard the when i got back and all of them said unlike
what the old heads think we are not here to fire you we just want to
make sure your safe.  They went on about how they don't want to do all
the paper work involved in firing someone.  I believed what they said
for about a week.  That is when a job in my yard had a derailment
because two empty flat cars bunched up and derailed.  The same young
train master who told me we was here for us and not here to fire anyone
was so, so, so excited saying " i finally got me one, i have been
looking to fire someone"  These were the exact words from his mouth. 
Never have i seen someone so excited to put a working man on the street
without a care.  What was funny is the investigation proved the crew was
not at fault which made this train master looking even more like a
asshole.  
    If any traim master out there read this, don't fill young guys
like me heads full of shit about how you don't won't fire us. 
Because we all know yall are full of pure shit.

Name: L & N Trainman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 May 2010

have been hearing around my yard that since the L&N voted the new
agreement down and i do mean really voted it down that CSX is trying to
take jobs away from Nashville, Birmingham, and Louisville and give them
to Chattanoga (can't spell it) as some sort of punishment for the NO
vote.  Anyone else heard of this and if so what is going on?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 May 2010

Let me clarify a smidge. T&E is all that I have spoken to. I never
expanded the conversation to the Transportation part of Railroading.

So we are clear. Mow ,Clerks, Signal, Bridge and many more were never
in my numbers. I never considered these folks T&E. And I still do not.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 May 2010

Just checking to see how really wrong and off base I am.

Did I read that 13k to 14k out of 30k CSX employees were T&E?
If so I may not understand what T&E really is. I always thought that
was Train and Engine service, the folks that actually run the equipment
in revenue service for the RR. I see now that I may be so old that,
reason has left me.

I give up RRJ, you win!!! almost 50% get to Run, Must be a fun place to
work, but scares me a little.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 May 2010

Hey Con 20-30:

I'm betting neither. They're actually downsizing. If I remember
correctly several years ago the UTU eliminated or consolidated a number
of VP positions. There was also 3 or 4 VPs that got axed as a result of
the proposed merger (but like the Terminator...they may be back).

I found it interesting they will refurnish the entire office which will
cost several million dollars.

My questions are who owns the building and what connection do they have
with the UTU, if any? Who is supplying the furniture and what connection
do they have with the UTU, if any?

A move like this take planning so it has been in the works for a while,
probably more than a year. It's funny the general membership is just
finding out about it!

With the UTU/CSX SSA fiasco they may be able to downsize even further
in the new future! At least there's not a Country Club near by...I
guess they will just have to drive themselves in UTU supplied cars!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

Will the new UTU Building rent cost a increase to my union dues?


Or will the Sheetmetal workers merger off set that ?


I know stupid questions get stupid answers

Name: me,me,me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

i was at the redi center taking the refresher course and i came off the
ladder.... and i have to go back in 28 days to do this again does
anyone have any advice to help me to train and to pass this once
more??? thanks in advance to all that helped

Name: LMAO!
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

Thanks for the link to Marcus Calhoun McCants facebook page.  NOMO son
is friends with him!   LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: jsmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

These contracts get passed because the Union is in bed with the RR, I
wish we could get rid of these Unions and start are own. We would be
better off being represented by our own people and just hope they dont
get greedy and get bought by the RR.

On another note, Please check your wheels on your locomotives before
departing. I work at a engine house and know through other people that
wheel reports have been doctored, meaning changed to look like they are
good just so they can outshop the unit. If you dont know how to gage
wheels go on the Domino site on the gateway and read the Safe Job
procedure or SMR and I am sure you can get a wheel gage from someone at
a shop. If you wanna stick it to CSX look at your wheels on every unit
in the consist. I have changed all the traction motors on unit because
it derailed. That unit had no buisness being on the rail. I wish I had
thought to write down the unit number but I didnt. Please check your
wheels, supervisors will run units with bad wheels. I found some bad
wheels oneday and the supervisor wouldnt have them cut and said the
unit didnt come in the shop for that so we are not cutting them or
replacing them. I had a supervisor want me to read a wheel with a hand
gage because the electronic gage said it was out of spec. He was trying
to get me to say the wheel was okay and I wouldnt do it. On another
ocassion I was told to go and qualify some bolster pads and if I didnt
pass them he was. Needless to say I didnt qualify them and they dont
ask me to do much anymore because they know I wont sign it off to go
back on the road unless its right. Alot of the othe rmachinist will do
things for them such as sign off on stuff that aint fixed or hasnt been
fixed. I have thought about going to the News and newspaper and squeal
like a pig on there safety practices, things that I have seen and seen
done by others.

Its hard to stop this kind of thing and get someone important to take
notice and do something about it. All this lobbying by CSX is one
problem, who is gonna step on there toes when there pockets are getting
padded.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 May 2010

There are several comments I could make but I won't...I'll let the
article speak for itself!

    http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=51817

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 May 2010

Wrong. In Virginia there are at least 400 engineers when you take the 3
seniority rosters from the former railroads (C&O, SCL, B&O Eastern
(RF&P)) some might be cut back to trainmen but their still on the
roster. Add the other 13 states plus DC and a few Canadian provinces
that CSX owns tracks. When I left last year in Virginia there were
aprox 260 engineers on just the C&O roster. If you think 13000-14000
people in T&E out of 30,000 employees is high then you don't much
about railroading. They could use another 2000-3000 in transportation.
A lot of crafts have been hit harder by technology 1) clerks not many
left 10% of their numbers from 20 years ago computers did away with
their jobs 2) track department is about 25% compared to 20 years ago
machines now do the work 3) there are only two major locomotive shops
on CSX 20 years ago every location had a roundhouse. Like most
industries the railroads have downsized utilizing those remaining into
working more which means less quality of life contrary to what CSX
states to the public.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 May 2010

I had a little concern about the 30k employees, went back to the message
from CSX and it is true.

30k is less than Tyson, Disney, GE, and many more.

Not very many get to ride and drive on CSX. Most are selling,
building,and managing the few that ride.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 May 2010

CSX has 30k Employees. And that is not very many.

Now listen up 7,500 are Trainmen or Engineer combo's

Who is kidding who. 5k Are Engineers. Looks like everyone get's to
run

Just guessing, purely a guess on my part out of 30k total Employees
less than 5% are on board employees regardless of the trade.

Looks like the CSX may have 1400 qualified engineers at a given time. 

Feel free to correct me , anytime

Name: Danny Lash
E-mail: Tobykieth@yahoo.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 May 2010

Baltimore terminal sucks ass!!!!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 May 2010

I stand by the numbers a conservative 7500+ trainmen. The CSX UTU
Northern committees were not included in this tenative contract.
Thank's for the info NoMo with some rough estimates taking in to
consideration half are Canadian members, shortlines, Amtrak, 1800
yardmasters, commuter service, 8000 bus service members the UTU states
it has a membership of 125,000. As for 5000 engineers one must remember
every new hire can be forced to engine service. So they count even if
their cut back. They do have a bypass clause if that individual has
enough people under them in seniority they can't be forced into engine
service. In my area I only know of one person who has used it. He hired
out about 12 years ago with retirements he's secure as a trainmen.
Biggest pitfall for him if the railroads get engineer only road trains.
Then he'll be forced into yard service with the RCO at the bottom of
the roster.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 May 2010

Hey Other:

7,500 is probably a good guess. The total votes cast were 2384 if the
numbers were correct...and that only covered about 1/2 the system. In
the past few elections a 50% turnout would be considered about average.
When you consider yard service, the ratio of 1.5:1 is probably
conservative.

With the above in mind 7,500 seems reasonable.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Transportation_Union

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 May 2010

The UTU has 5,500 members total RRJ. Now there is now way 7,500 are
working for CSX. Get it right retired one. Engineers at 5,000 on the
CSX is not even a good guess.

Name: me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 May 2010

when does the montgomery a.w.p get paid next? and do they paid every
week or every two weeks? getting transferd there and would like to know
so i can see when and how to pay my bills ....thanks in advance....and
what is the conductor gurantee pay ??

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 May 2010

NoMo

If there are according to CSX aproximiately 5000 Locomotive Engineers
on CSX you can bet there are at least 7500 trainmen. Even if 10% of
them belong to the BLE(T) that still leaves 6750. If those figures are
correct on the vote then the unions aren't the problem the membership
is. Which todays young ages of trainmen makes sense they haven't a
clue about unions and their responsibility. I can pretty much make a
sure fire bet most came from families that their parents/parent were
non-union. Unlike my generation where we knew unionized jobs were the
places to work.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 May 2010

If that's the case Hancock is way out of line...the GC on the L&N and
C&O need to file charges against Hancock with International; if the
don't they should be brought up on charges.

Sounds as though Hancock promised something he can't deliver on.
With 66% against you can't even justify a recount unless you question
the vote on the SCL and A&WP, which you could easily on the A&WP based
on the margin.

A total of 2100 took time to return ballots...I wonder how many ground
service personnel are represented by the UTU on those four
flags? Sad!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 May 2010

I understand about the single system agreement but what I was told by my
lc that hanCOCK said the l&n and the c&o would go before an arbitrator
and he would decide which to go with I say is bs . HanCOCK and csx
wants this agreement bad . There has already has been phone calls to
the national office.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 May 2010

No news of the results for the CSX/UTU Single System Agreement posted on
the UTU website this morning at 0812 on 5/3/10. If it's true that a
majority voted it down then it isn't forced on anyone. What don't you
understand about the words "Single System"? This agreement would do
away with the SCL, C&O, B&O, L&N, Conrail ect....former work rules an
agreements would then be null and void.

Name: Be happy in your work
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 May 2010

Did you know that=== Todd Novak ===is planing to come back to work , at
collinwood yard . this skum bag was the BLE treasurer in cleveland ,and
was convited for stealing money from his brothers and union people . He
stated all he was doing was using for a while and planed to pay it back
. sounds like every other embeleser , i would like to see what union
local is going to take him back ?????   do not let ====Todd Novak===
back !!!!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 May 2010

Hey Con 10-20:

Why am I not surprised...I suspected CSX and the UTU might try
something like that. I'm no labor expert but I'm not sure CSX can
cram it down on the L&N and C&O side even if it passed on the A&WP and
SCL.

Better get your stones out and start honing those blades...it nut
cuttin' time...sooie pig! Just make sure there is a mud wallow nearby
so they can cool that fire!


http://www.bluntie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/pigs-in-mud-wallow-300x225.jpg

Isn't that Hancock facing this way?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 May 2010

Well NoMo , it passed by 25 votes on the scl and passed by 1 vote on the
awp (the deciding vote was throughed out b/c he marked the wrong craft)
voted down on the l&n and c&o . Overall voted down numbers 1400 against
and 700 for the agreement . So now they are talking about the scl and
awp having the agreement and doin a cramdown on the other two. So they
say the popular vote doesn't mean shit!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 May 2010

Well now...it's Sunday May 2nd the UTU has had plenty of time to tally
the votes...and the decision is?

Name: Nazi Hunter
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 May 2010

Very interesting article that might change Nazi Safety Programs 


April 29, 2010
Massey offering each family $3M, miner's daughter says
The daughter of one of 29 men killed in a West Virginia coal mine
explosion says owner Massey Energy is offering each family a $3 million
settlement.
By The Associated Press
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CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Massey Energy is offering $3 million to each of
the families of 29 men killed in an explosion at its Upper Big Branch
coal mine in West Virginia, the daughter of one of the victims said
Thursday.

The offer came a week earlier when Massey officials visited the family,
said Michelle McKinney, daughter of Benny Ray Willingham. McKinney said
other families have received the same offer.

Massey did not immediately respond to calls seeking comment.

The widow of William Griffith has already filed a wrongful death
lawsuit, while the mother of Adam Morgan has won a court order
preserving relevant records and potential evidence from the disaster.
The April 5 explosion -- the nation's worst coal mining disaster in 40
years -- also has prompted legal action by several current and former
shareholders.

McKinney isn't interested in settling.

"Nope,'' she said. "My dad didn't have a price tag on him. Don
Blankenship don't have enough money to pay me.''

Massey CEO Blankenship is among the highest paid executives in the coal
industry. McKinney said she would like to take every penny he has.

"Maybe it'll save somebody else's life,'' she said.

On Monday, Richmond, Va.-based Massey laid out a financial package that
it said would free the families from ever worrying about money.

Among other things, Massey said families would receive five times the
miner's annual pay as life insurance benefits and an additional
payment to surviving spouses. The offer also would include health
coverage both for surviving spouses and dependent children, and four
years' worth of college or vocational education at any accredited
school in West Virginia for those children.

Director Robert 'Doc' Foglesong said accepting those benefits would
not prevent a family from pursuing any legal claims.

Federal and state investigators suspect the explosion was caused by a
combination of methane gas and combustible coal dust. Toxic gases have
kept them from entering the mine. Officials say tests showing the
presence of acetylene and ethylene, gases not normally found in an
underground work environment, suggest a fire may be burning somewhere.

Name: jsmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 April 2010

I posted some info on here about several employee having to testify in
front of the Federal Grand jury a week or so ago about the harassament
and intimidation of injured employee. I have heard several indictments
were handed down on CSX, I have looked several times on here to see if
there was any response to the info I posted but there wasnt. I figured
you guys would be happy about some info like this. In 2008 in Waycross
every manager had been fired, demoted or told they had to go somewhere
else. They were caught signing off work packets and working on
locomotives in the ready field(doing 92 day work), so in other words
there were bribing employees with overtime pay to sign off the work. An
employee was injured and they let him sit in the safety office for
almost a year without reporting his injury, threatened to fire him if
he reported, allowed other employees to harrass him and they would not
let him go in the office without an escort. They sent Chuck Arwood to
take over for the plant manager they fired. Chuck would hide in the
parking lot trying to catch people leaving early, he would also try to
enter peoples vehicles. Ethics was called, someone came and took the
DVR storage device for the video cameras because Chuck was caught on it
pulling on door handels of employees vehicles. There were alot of
injuries after Chuck took over, one person was fired because he put the
worng date on the injury report and his friend lied and said he didnt
fall, The guy had to have a disc replaced. CSX is a bad place to work,
I suggest we the employee's hold them accountable by filing complaints
and lawsuits. We need to keep a close eye on management and document
everything and start standing up to them. Someone posted some
information about the RCO operator that was killed on the CSX message
board on Yahoo finance and it was removed.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 April 2010

It's like any thing else medical...the better one's insurance is, the
more care one gets...until your limits are reached. Then the care ends!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 April 2010

We are making these outfits rich.   This is hurting our bottom line.

Why are there so much abuse on the rails?


Hiding under the Desk

Name: lilbuddy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 April 2010

Sara:


http://www.mtregis.com/contactus.asp

good luck and have faith.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 April 2010

Good Evening,

Could someone please tell me where a CSX employee from Virginia would
be sent for alcohol treatment? What might he expect? Will he be allowed
contact with family members? I sincerely appreciate any information you
could provide.

Thanks,
Sara

Name: who
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 April 2010

where does the Montgomery awp run ?

Name: jsmith45
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 April 2010

Several employees from Waycross had to testify in front of a Federal
Grand jury two weeks ago. I believe some indictments were handed down
on CSX. All this stems to the harassment and intimidation of injured
employees. One was fired a while back because he put the wrong date on
the injury report and the witness was at fault for his injury and he
lied on the poor guy to save his job. I think the guy that got hurt had
to have a disc replaced in his back. I hope CSX gets what they deserve
from the grand jury.

Name: JAMES R WILLIAMS
E-mail: jwilliams19556@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 April 2010

i worked for seaboard csx out of hamlet n,c 28345 4/29/1966 until
4/4/1986,the rr let me go they said i was color blind, it took me ten
years to prove that i was not color blind, they put me back to work 
after ten years, i was a orange book man, the union did not try to
help. i got nothing for the ten years i was off thanks to the union
paying dues for 25 years thANK J.R. WILLIAMS

Name: Joe Shit the Ragman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 April 2010

Damn near finally free of this company after 34 years. There were some
really good people I worked with over the years and some real assholes
. To the good guys , I'm gonna miss you all. To the Assholes ....For
your sake I hope I never run into y'all again . I dont like jail 
HAHAHAHA

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 April 2010

NoMo

Yeah!!! I've read all the excuses for keeping mediocre people in high
places. It seems the gene pool for executives has rapidly declined thru
inbreeding.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 April 2010

Hey RRJ:

It's so they can attract, hire and retain this enormous talent...they
certainly wouldn't want to lose these Einsteins to the competition!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 April 2010

NoMo

I'm sure their crying to the bank. I'm sure they all feel their worth
much more it's the American CEO way. It is a shame that the CEO's
whose corporations recieved TARP monies made a lot more in
compensation. Those banking, insurance, and Wall St CEO's who need to
be tarred and feathered and run out of town. CEO compensation isn't
equal by any means to the performance of a corporation. The piss poor
excuse that is made that it is based on the Fortune 500 shouldn't hold
weight anymore. That maybe change in the higher echilons might be a good
thing.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 April 2010

It's a pity party in the executive suite...Mike's got plenty of
company...that river of tears may not have crested yet!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36167502/ns/business-us_business/

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 April 2010

The last of the furloughed in Louisville have been called back.  Also,
13 cut-backs have been marked back up to Engineer. Progress?

Name: wasted my time with the unions
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 March 2010

Man—every man—is an end in himself, not a means to the ends of others;
he must live for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others
nor sacrificing others to himself; he must work for his rational
self-interest, with the achievement of his own happiness as the highest
moral purpose of his life. 

Once you union morons understand this, you will move on with your
lives.

Till then, you will praise Obama, the democrats, and others, that
demean you and your being by accepting the scraps they give you.

Michael Ward understands that!

Honor is self-esteem made visible in action. I am a man who does not
exist for others.

Solidarty my ass!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 March 2010

Yeah, cry me a river.....

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 March 2010

Yeah Nomo, excuse me while I break out my kleenex.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 March 2010

Poor Michael!

      http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=51270

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 March 2010

There are no Harris COLA adjustments anymore at least not in the near
future. As for pay raises you just got one plus your productivity bonus
check. You're already thinking about another one. I don't think there
are any increases till 2011. Check with your LC.

Name: I
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 March 2010

Does anybody know when the next COLA/Raise is for the Engineer's
working under the BLE/CSX SSA?   We just got a 5% raise Jan 1, 2010,
just wondering when the next raise is and how much.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 March 2010

Excuse me while find my Coon skin hat:(

Name: Southwest airlines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 March 2010

Hand scanner? Talk to an aircraft mechanic and get some skydrol. Put it
on your hand then scan. Let the skydrol do its trick.

Name: steve
E-mail: hmstoo@hotmail
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 March 2010

Hey Skippi! I started with CSX in the 70s and quit in the 90s.
Retirement age was changed when Regan was in office. I wasn't eligible
for full benefits until I was 66 & 9 months.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 March 2010

Productivity up...labor costs down.

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35705431/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 March 2010

One more Spencer to go, then I will really celebrate....

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 March 2010

Hey Loco 30+:

Every last one of them needs to be voted out...whether Demo. or Rep.,
Senator or Congressmen none of them are worth a shit. It's truly
embarrassing. 

I can hardly wait until the fist fights break out in the chambers.

I was saving this for the Union leadership but it's appropriate for
these buffoons too:

           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8qeacBZGA4

Forgive the filibuster!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 March 2010

NoMo

It appears Bunning was playing partisan politics in the begining till
the news media backlash. Then the Repo's turned against him. They're
all hypocrits Repo's and Dem's alike.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 March 2010

Hey Loco 30+:

I thought Jeff Sessions and Richard Shelby were a the two most pompous
asses from the same state (Alabama) in the Senate...Mitch McConnell and
Jim Bunning have them beat by a long shot.

I can understand why he's not running for reelection...besides two
terms is long enough!

Name: tripod
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 March 2010

Should Congress make it easier for workers to form and join labor
unions?

Yes 7
No 68
Not Sure 25

Source:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/2/2/832988/-The-2010-Comprehensive-Daily-Kos-Research-2000-Poll-of-Self-Identified-Republicans

Historically labor unions have indisputably been the best friend that
working people have ever had. More recently that's open to debate. In
any case, follow the link for some real proof that the country is
screwed.

This is also kind of interesting:
http://www.truthout.org/the-home-depot-misery-index57291

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 March 2010

Retraction: It seems Sen Bunning (R-Ky) wasn't playing partisan
politics it appears he was just being an arsehole because he can. He's
retiring this is his last term in the Senate. He voted against extending
COBRA and unemployment benefits on the Senate Finance Committee unless
the money came from the bailout TARP funds. Bad judgement on his part
to play renegade with the lives of 400,000 Americans. Along with this
bill was financing for the DOT infrastructure programs. The DOT now has
to furlough 2000 people all work will stop because federal inspectors
won't be on the job. That means contractors will have to lay off
workers. Let's give a big thumbs down to Sen Bunning. We should have a
special Brown Banana award for those who achieve notoriety beyond the
raiload and CSX.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 March 2010

I've survived in the American workforce during 8 presidents starting
with Nixon and Clinton by far was the best. I've been through 4
recessions. I have never witnessed such dirty politics like the past 10
years. People like Sen Bunning (R-Ky) who through partisan politics held
hostage and denied unemployment extension benefits for 400,000 Americans
this past week. That is unexceptable. I'm sure that will cost the
Repo's some of their gains they've had in the past year. The American
people want change which they won't get from either party. Both are
deaf, dumb, and blind. Seeing my railroad carreer is coming to a close
my politics will also shift in another direction. That's the positive
side of being an independent no loyalty to anyone.

Name: Jesus Nomo
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 March 2010

LOL!  Nomo said this.......

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 February 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

Lets get one thing straight...first I'm not your buddy. Secondly, at
28 your not old enough to know the difference between shit and
shinola.


If you've been in furlough status for four years, why would you hang
around the crew room and make yourself mad by watching the old heads
tally their earning statements? Or better yet, why haven't you taken
a
transfer...I'm sure they have been offered.

Why are the "young guys" suffering to feed their family? Perhaps you
can favor all of us by telling us what kind of trucks they drive and
how they live. The old heads can drive those trucks because their
families are grown and hopefully off their dole, their houses are paid
for. Their expenses are less than a young man with a family.

Life is full of choices...you can save and invest money now or you can
spend it on impressing your friends. Make the wrong choice now and
you'll regret it later.

Any one under 30 has never seen truly tough times. Times are tough and
will get tougher before they get better, sounds like the regrets are
starting.

By the way, I have a '01 GMC Yukon and a '99 MB ML450 and the money
I've saved on notes, insurance and tags will pay for a nice extended
family vacation in Europe this summer or buy one of my Grandchildren a
P.A.C.T. contract which will pay for their college education.

Like I said, it's their money and they can spend it however they want
to. If they are suffering however, do you think it might be because of
the choices they made?







What he failed to add is that he is full of shit and that he was
selling his furniture to his step son not that long ago.  The step son
that still works for railroad.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 March 2010

CSX stock listed on the Cambodia Securities Exchange...why? I guess 
CSX has run out of suckers at home or maybe they want to offer a
derivative or hybrid security that the SEC won't approve!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 March 2010

This should settle the argument about NAFTA:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement

NAFTA is a Treaty and can be repealed at any time by a vote of the
Senate. It hasn't happened yet...don't hold you breath waiting for it
to be repealed.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 March 2010

You Moonbatties are the crybabies, I'm just stating the facts xD

You said,
"Nixon was the first president to visit
China. Every president since has had some dealings with China
including
Ford, Carter, Raygun, Daddy Bush, Clinton, Baby Bush, and Obama."

Again,
"During periods of American economic expansion in the 1950s, ’60s and
’70s, the number of private-sector jobs increased about 3.5 percent a
year, according to an analysis of Labor Department data by Lakshman
Achuthan, managing director of the Economic Cycle Research
Institute,"

No problem during Nixon. 
In this article it started with Clinton. And Clinton SOLD stuff to
China while he was there :D

I would like to see this article updated to today and see how much a
bigger mess it is. From 2003
http://www.epi.org/economic_snapshots/entry/webfeatures_snapshots_archive_12102003/
  

You need to layoff the Kool-Aid flavored NyQuil and post only at night
for best clarity since bats are only active when the sun goes down.

TIP: 
Question, When does a Moonbat run out facts to support it's argument?

Answer, When it resorts to name calling and gets critical about
other's spelling and grammar.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 March 2010

Uh oh, don't look now but your job is going to Cambodia :(


http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2010030132846/Business/csx-launch-set-for-may-official-says.html

CSX launch set for May, official says 
Monday, 01 March 2010 15:03 Nguon Sovan    

THE Cambodia Securities Exchange will launch officially in May,
officials said Sunday.

Hong Sok Hour, general director of the Cambodia Securities Exchange,
said that the process to establish the CSX would be completed in early
April and officially inaugurated in May. 

“We’re preparing to register [CSX] at the Commerce Ministry. After it’s
registered, we will apply for a licence at the SECC, possibly sometime
next month,” he said, referring to the Securities and Exchange
Commission of Cambodia.

An unnamed SECC official told the Post on February 11 that the CSX
would be inaugurated this month.

The exchange would be housed at an as-yet-undecided temporary location
ahead of the launch of trading at a new four-storey building in Camko
City, a development on the outskirts of Phnom Penh.

“We do not want to disclose anything about the interim building for CSX
because it’s under negotiation,” said Hong Sok Hour.

SECC Director General Ming Bankosal said Sunday the CSX licence would
not take long to process, and that the procedure had already been
discussed.

Name: rel'd women of B'ham
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 March 2010

Great news everyone,          yeah!!!!!yeah!!!!!!heah!!!!!    
  Danny Spencer has been fired as a CSX officer,  the days of fucking
with peoples wifes, chickenshit failures, lying to everyone, stepping
on toes has finally caught up with old Danny. Too bad he did'nt get
fired completely. Would have been nice to have seen his seniority taken
away so he could see what it feels like to be on the other end of things
for a change. Ever heard of 'Karma' Danny? well you finally got yours.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 March 2010

Apparently your to ignorant to realize American corporations were
already moving down south of the border before NAFTA. It was for the
cheap labor. NAFTA was a left over bill from Daddy Bush when Clinton
took office as was the Brady Bill. It still doesn't excuse during the
Shrub days in the new millenium corporations sending customer service &
tech jobs to India, Pakistan, Taiwan ect...for cheaper labor cost.
Opinions are like assholes everybody has one. Some like you are a
bigger asshole.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 March 2010

You sound like a cry-baby Repo. It's always the democrats fault. Sure,
NAFTA (North American Free Trade Aggreement) came about during Clinton
he should of veto the bill. Then again the Repo's controlled congress
they voted it in. That has nothing to do with shipping jobs overseas
apparently you haven't a clue. Nixon was the first president to visit
China. Every president since has had some dealings with China including
Ford, Carter, Raygun, Daddy Bush, Clinton, Baby Bush, and Obama. I tried
to not use to many big words to confuse your tiny cranium.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 March 2010

R U OK? 
You are rambling on like a homeless man.

We are talking about shipping American jobs out the US like NAFTA
And selling US technology secrets to the Chinese.

Clinton's changes took time and worked i'ts majik thru the "W"
years and still is.

Ever hear of the word, "Moonbat"?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 March 2010

I think your math is a little off. The last decade from 2000-2008 was
George "The Shrub" Bush not Bill Clinton. Typical Repo bullschidt.
The Clinton years were properous for the middle class even with a Repo
controlled congress. Things really didn't go downhill till the Repo's
controlled the WH and congress in 2000. This countries troubles started
in the early '70s with Nixon then escalated with Carter who got
elected because the Nixon years were corrupt and this country needed
someone who didn't have skeletons hidden in their closet. Carter like
Obama didn't have the political connections needed to straighten out
the country. By the time Raygun took office it was a mess and it got
worse. Raygun stopped using any regulations we had to control the
banking system and Wall Street. Interest rates for homes were 14%
families were homeless and Raygun toppled the unions when he fired the
Air Traffic Controllers. Raygun over spent on weapons to compete with
the Russians. He gets the glory for defeating the USSR but if they
could of held out we would of gone bankrupt. It was a difficult time in
this country. I saw the same pattern with The Shrub and his illegal war
in Iraq. We are so far in debt my great-grandchildren will still be
paying it off.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 February 2010

During periods of American economic expansion in the 1950s, ’60s and
’70s, the number of private-sector jobs increased about 3.5 percent a
year, according to an analysis of Labor Department data by Lakshman
Achuthan, managing director of the Economic Cycle Research Institute, a
research firm. During expansions in the 1980s and ’90s, jobs grew just
2.4 percent annually. And during the last decade, job growth fell to
0.9 percent annually."

You can thank Clinton for the last part.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_gcnXuUYpc

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 February 2010

This article is worth reading...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35504954/ns/business-the_new_york_times//

Name: averagejoe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 February 2010

still furloughed cubby

your probalby right about hearing about csx starting to hire again
while they have people furloughed.
the union does nothing about it though becuase once you are hired you
have to join the union or face bieng fired so yes i have said it once
and will say it again the union cares for itself
as long as they get thier dues they dont care where it comes from csx
can hire and furlough as much as they want as long as a certian number
of each respective union members are forced to pay dues the unions dont
care just like the company as long as they get thiers.
people bitch about csx and god knows i do too i dont even work their
used to be a dream but i am a very astute young man and after carefull
reading i came up with what i just said.
as long as the unions get thiers what the hell ever to the members now
im not saying do away with the unions im just saying as long as there
is enough members in service for the unions to still be profitable
there will be no change for the better of the working class men, no
strikes, no arguments hell it seems like anymore you feel lucky to have
the chance to sacrafice a finger to save a arm so i ask all of you is
that the meaning of a union
give them a little to sacrafice livelyhood what happens when we run out
of fingers then they take the arm and we feel lucky they didnt take the
other arm guys there isnt an end im not asking for answers just trying
to see if you can see where im coming from im likel the control i look
on from the outside read the contracts and weigh the options and the
options are as i just stated

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 February 2010

Please Read  if cut back or flowed back                                 
      Open enrollment begins November 1 for BLET Short Term Disability
plan 
CLEVELAND, November 2 — Open Enrollment for 2010 under the BLET’s Short
Term Disability insurance begins on November 1, 2009, and runs through
December 15, 2009. 

If you are a locomotive engineer working on a railroad that
participated in the Wage Rules portion of the national agreement dated
December 16, 2003, your coverage under Part A (described below) of the
BLET Short Term Disability Plan will automatically continue. 

Last year, if you opted out of Part B coverage (also described below),
then you can opt back in during this enrollment period. If you
currently participate and wish to opt out of Part B coverage, you can
also do so during this enrollment period. 

Part A — Non-Occupational Disabilities

Effective January 1, 2010, there will be no changes to Part A coverage:


• Your eligibility and $40 premium is submitted by the railroad on a
monthly basis.
• Part A pays $402 per week for non-occupational disabilities only. 
• Occupational disabilities are not covered. 
• Each eligible member is insured for $50,000 of Accidental Death and
Dismemberment (AD&D) coverage. 

Part B – Occupational Disabilities

Effective January 1, 2010 there will be no changes to Part B coverage:

• Part B is voluntary. Participation in this additional occupational
coverage is not required. 

• The weekly benefit for occupational disabilities is $402 per week. 

• Each eligible member is insured for $50,000 of AD&D coverage. 

• The benefit is not subject to repayment upon receipt of a FELA
settlement (no repayment after a personal injury settlement).

• The benefit is not considered taxable income.

• The cost is $23 per month and will be payroll deducted with your
monthly union dues.

NOTE: UTU members working as engineers are eligible for Part A and may
purchase Part B coverage by making an annual payment of $276 to the
BLET Trust Fund.
**************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
IMPORTANT:

• Eligibility for Part B is dependent on your eligibility for Part A.
In order to be eligible for Part A, you must have** ****seven starts in
a month with one start as an engineer.************
If you are furloughed to train service and become ineligible for Part A
coverage, you must notify the Secretary-Treasurer of your local division
immediately. At that time, you have three options: 

1. Continue coverage of Part A and Part B by paying $40 directly to the
BLET Trust Fund by the 10th of the month and continuing payroll
deduction of $23 for Part B. Coverage may only be continued for six
months under this option. If you choose this option, you will need to
contact the Plan Administrator (information below) for additional
instructions.

2. Discontinue coverage of Part B temporarily until you return to
engineer status and become eligible for Part A. An engineer, who loses
Part A coverage due to no fault of his own, may resume coverage for
Part B once he returns to engineer status and becomes eligible for Part
A. You must keep the Secretary-Treasurer of you local division informed
of your status.

3. OPT-OUT of Part B by completing an OPT-OUT form. If you choose to
opt-out of Part B, you may only resume coverage during a subsequent
annual enrollment period.
If you currently do NOT participate and choose to do nothing, you will
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d  if cut-back or flowed-back

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 February 2010

Re: rate of pay in Selkirk yd......same as daily rate in any former
Conrail territory...203.29 daily...19.48 more for robo...

Name: Cee
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 February 2010

From past experience: The vast majority of comments or discussion on any
forum or web site you will see are going to be against the contract.
This will get ratified through crew room and locker room discussions by
those who know very little about it. Where the only voices you will hear
are the loudest. The ones that are usually full of shit. Good luck
voting this one down.

Name: moving
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 February 2010

i being transfed to baltimore in the next 2 weeks does anyone have any
advice, or know anything about baltimore work conditions?   PLEASE help
...........

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 February 2010

Does anyone know the rate of a day's pay in Selkirk yard?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 February 2010

One issue that has been brought up at the union meetings has been the
excessive amount of dicsipline that is being doled out by CSX. It
occured to me under the SSA if a person has been charged and assessed
time wether overhead or time in the street they are not entitled to the
50% 401K plan match stock award under the yearly bonus. At my terminal
just about every engineer has been brought up on charges no matter how
minut. CSX has successfully manipulated the SSA agreement. The trainmen
have avoided this fate. If they vote in this SSA they too will become
pawns.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 February 2010

75% of CSX stock is owned by institutional investors, so, most people
are not aware they own CSX stock. Management manipulates it, pump and
dump, is their mantra.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 February 2010

Usually but not always, they increase the dividend when the announce the
split. Depending on the ratios they might also announce a big stock buy
back to offset the dilution caused by the split. That allows management
to brag about creating shareholder value and justify their salaries and
enormous bonuses!

This scenario is not unique to CSX...they all do it. Companies that
don't pay a cash dividend many times will declare a stock dividend.
It's all about perceptions...keep Wall St. happy and everybody makes
money!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 February 2010

Stock split? I've never seen it happen until it's at least $75 a
share. Then I've seen it split 3 to 1 down to $25. It was a good thing
the stock quickly escalated people made money. Just because they'll
give you shares over a contract doesn't mean they'll manipulate it
that drastically the stock is only at $44.90. They do have other share
holders to appease. Then again I own quite a few shares a split would
double my investment over a relatively short period of time.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 February 2010

Look for a stock split right before they issue yours.  They have done it
before, they will do it again.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 February 2010

Cond 1-10

I think you need to hear from those who have been under a Single System
Agreement since 2007. There are those who'll read the cleff notes on
the front page which highlights the good points and think this is
great. I'm not here to convince you to vote against it just don't be
ignorant to the facts. People read productivity bonus, lump sum bonus,
shares of stock ect...for some that's all they need to know. Quit this
bullschidt of oldhead and newbie it puts a big divide between people.
It's not that good for the oldhead but your not thinking straight. How
does it help? Productivity bonuses won't start till 2013 pay raises
won't start till 2012. I would think every oldhead would be appalled
at such an agreement. It most certianly doesn't help to fill their
retirement investments with stagnant wages. Biggest concern for you is
your generation has the voting power those are the ones you need to
convince. Every oldhead could vote "yes" it doesn't matter it
wouldn't pass unless your generation doesn't vote.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 February 2010

I think that it is interesting that people who are not going to be under
this contract keep trying to put their two cents in. Let the conductors
deal with their contract and the engineers deal with theirs.  Something
to remember is that hardly anyone with 30 yrs+ is going to be hurt by
this contract.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 February 2010

Our union general chairmen are just a bunch of railroad puppets, there
is no way the could've asked for 90% on this shitty contract unless
somebody is filling up their pockets.  Hope they enjoy their blood
money

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 February 2010

Lloyd

You state over 150 members have joined the group on FB. All I have to
do is find it an I too can join, so can every trainmaster, corporate
honch, railroad foamer ect...You're leaving yourself wide open.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 February 2010

Cond 10-20

Discussing anything on an open forum like FB ect...is stupidity. You
have no control over who has access. Apparently you haven't read the
news articles of people who have been fired from their jobs because of
posting on an open forum thinking it was safe. The only secure venue is
at union meetings. How can you critisise oldheads? We're not the
majority voting power anymore we create no threat. You should be
concentrating on those members of your generation that have been
complacent. Those who have never attended a union meeting. Those who
never participated in anything. Those are the ones you have to
convince. There is no excuse for not getting involved no excuse for not
sending in ballots start a campaign on educating people be tactful and
not overbearing. The silent majority that excist is your biggest
problem. Oldheads know one important issue votes count an if they pose
a threat in your opinion then that's your generations fault. Your
generation has more to lose and will have to to live with the changes.
Our time is short. Majority rules in a democracy use it wisely or end
up paying the consequenses.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 February 2010

Nomo, I'd say I agree with you 90 percent of the time but not on this
issue.  Places like myspace, facebook, and blogs are places for the new
generation to talk about things and discuss what's going on.  I'm not
really a fan of any of them but when I checked they had 150 guys joined
already.  No one is in favor of this contract.  If I read it right, it
just seems like a plot to eventually cut back as much as possible and
use utility men whenever possible to save paying people on an extra
board.  Sounds like a nightmare for anyone who has been with CSX for
less than 10 years.  I will definitely be checking the big N.O when I
get my ballot in the mail...if it comes.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 February 2010

Hey Con 10-20:

I totally agree that everyone needs to discuss the UTU SSA.
However, discussing it on Face Book, Myspace or Twitter won't 
get it done. I'd be emailing and calling my Local and General Chairmen
as well as International. I would mark off if I had to and attend every
regular and special Local meeting. 

Discuss what direct questions should be asked in each different Local
meeting over Face Book etc. You can bet you won't get a direct answer.
Discuss what option, if any, you have under the UTU Constitution for
removing the LCs and GCs. Discuss any legal options the membership has
against the UTU. The UTU has an absolute obligation to fairly represent
their members, if they don't there is recourse.

         http://www.utu.org/worksite/member-rights.htm

         http://www.dol.gov/

It's too bad more people haven't been involved in the day to day
operations and politics of the union before now. They're complacent
until something like this comes along; then all the non-participatory
members come out of the woodwork screaming bloody murder.

Last time I saw this much interest from the ground service personnel
was when the H&W benefits were renegotiated back in '02 or'03.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 February 2010

Theres a forem on the CSX / UTU contract encurage everyone to join and
discuss the good and the bad points of the contracts join and voice
your concerns we all need to stand together on this we need to start
being the New Railroad not like all the old heads before us just out
for there self. the Forem is on Facebook in the groups the name of the
group  is Trainman Against CSX/UTU Contract.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 February 2010

Stupidity like that is enough reason to leave the employ of CSX.

Add in 30+" of snow on the ground and another 10"-12" due tonight
and tomorrow might cause you to reconsider!

Name: sy
E-mail: hmstoo@hotmail.com
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 February 2010

In response to 'me' about moving from Florida to Baltimore. You would
be better off finding a new job in Florida. The working conditions in
Baltimore are terrible. One brakeman was reprimanded for adjusting his
hat while walking a train. He was told he should have stopped walking
before adjusting his hat.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 February 2010

hey loco 30+ plus years you are right about the ns contract . CSX wants
this bid system bad , if we vote this down they will want to go back to
the table . The younger men need to realize the bid system will cut 10%
of the work force , so back on the street you go.

Name: me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 February 2010

just got the call to move to baltimore from florida panhandle is b-more
working or being sent home ? please let me know i will be moving my
wife and five kids to a new place and i need to be working...thanks in
advance............

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 February 2010

VOTE NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ON THE CONDUCTORS CONTRACT THE GENERAL
CHAIRMEN ARE PUSHING IT BECAUSE THERE GONNA LOSE THERE JOBS IF IT DONT
PASS. NO RAISES FOR 3 YEAR WHAT THE HECK, WILL TALK ABOUT HEALTHCARE ON
A LATER DATE?????????????????????? OK SOUNDS FAIR TO ME.  VOTE NO !!!!!
OR ATLEAST READ THE CONTRACT DONT TAKE SOMEBODYS WORD FOR IT READ THE
CRAP FOR YOURSELF.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 February 2010

NoMo you are 100% correct.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 February 2010

That's right No Mo if u make over your guarantee . Last half I did beat
my guarantee but this half I'm not , so if this contact passes and I 
need off for a emergency I loose my Guarentee. Plus a 6% pay raise over
a 5 year period that starts 2012 ; if u get in trouble (not only stayin
marked up) you loose your stocks ! We don't even get a bonus until
2013 !!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 February 2010

Who dat say they gonna beat them Saints?

Name: JoshuaRogers
E-mail: kayakguy303@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 February 2010

Vote the contract down! If you want a life Vote it DOWN!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 February 2010

I went to work for CSX approx 4 years ago.I paid $5000.00 plus room and
board for schooling, lost wages for 6 weeks.All in all it cost me
$10,000 plus for a job that wasn't worth squat. Quit a job I have been
at 15 plus years for what. To be told I will be treated like a person
with good pay and benifits! Hah! Laid off twice in the 2 years I was
there, couldn't even get railroad unemployment the first year I was
there as I wasn't there long enough. Was continually denied valid
claims of labor agreements by them, denied my first year vacation pay.
Safety was a joke, working two shifts in one day, continually being
forced to do things because of producing what they want. I hardly ever
called of work but employees that did were taken care of. Intimidated
when I spoke up and voiced my rights. If you believe anything they tell
you you will be sorry. Worst 2 years of my employment life.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 February 2010

CSXT, UTU Southern Region Employees Reach Tentative Agreement 

JACKSONVILLE, Fla., Jan 29, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- CSX
Transportation Inc. (CSXT) and the United Transportation Union (UTU)
have reached a tentative agreement on a five-year combined wage and
performance bonus package. The agreement covers conductors and yard
employees on CSXT predecessor railroads AWP, C&O, L&N, NC&StL and SCL.

In addition to wage increases, employees will be eligible for payments
from a Performance Bonus Plan that links that portion of their
compensation to company financial performance. Affected employees will
also be eligible for a stock-based Individual Performance Award
program. Upon approval by the International UTU, the agreement will be
subject to ratification by the affected UTU membership. 

"This is an important agreement that consolidates five former
agreements into a single Southern Region UTU agreement that directly
aligns the interests of our more than 4,000 United Transportation Union
employees in this area with company goals to meet the expectations of
our customers and shareholders," said Lisa Mancini, senior vice
president-human resources. "We applaud the vision of the UTU in
reaching a new agreement that rewards their membership when the company
meets its financial and strategic goals." 

CSX Transportation Inc. is a principal operating company of CSX
Corporation. CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is one of
the leading transportation companies, providing rail, intermodal and
rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network
spans 21,000 miles with service to 23 eastern states and the District of
Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river, and lake ports.
More information about CSX Corporation and its subsidiaries is
available at the company's web site, www.csx.com. 

SOURCE CSX Transportation

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 January 2010

This big new consolidated utu contract is a real crock, no raises what
so ever what kinda contract is this any ways, there just doing what
they always do try to push something through before the national
contract comes out, but im sure theres enough 58 year old conductors
out there that dont care about raises over the next 20 years just to
get that extra week vacation.( that they will pay 5000 dollars for in
lost wages for no raise that year ). and crew callers looks like were
gonna seal there doom in this super contract. THIS REALLY
BLOWS!!!!!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 January 2010

Brakie

" Does CSX not care about their
public image especially when men were suspended during trainning."

Mike Ward said reputation is everything.     But he hired Tony Hitler
Ingram and he fired and scared CSX employees into total dispare.

Now he is gone I doubt it will change anytime soon with Brown.

Does CSX ever care about anything?

Should I really care?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 January 2010

I just want to ask a question and get some answers from guys who have
worked for CSX as a trainman in regards to those men who were suspended
during their on the job training.  Is CSX required to call those men
back or can they start again with hiring back off the streets, and
would it not benefit CSX to come along with a buyout for those
employees who are under a protected status and get the majority of
those furloughed and suspended back.  Does CSX not care about their
public image especially when men were suspended during trainning.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 January 2010

Attn all suspended Trainees and long term furloughed Trainmen,

        As I mentioned in previous post, The Consolidated Southern
Agreement which binds the former C&O, SCL, L&N, and all the little
southern roads was distributed today to the LC. The carrier has
promised you guys first refferal on the many Signal and Maintnance jobs
that will be created to install and maintain the PTC. They project 100
jobs in my area alone. It won't be a solution for everyone, but it
will for many.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 January 2010

Name: Jsmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 January 2010

I am in the process of writing a book about CSX and there so called
safety policy, the harassment and intimidation and all the horror
stories of how they have treated employees. If you guys want to share
your stories feel free to email me at jsmith14449@yahoo.com. I only
want true stories, not hear say or rumors. Need to be factual
information. I promise you your name will not be mentioned
anywhere,You
dont even have to leave your name. If you setup a private email all I
ask is that you check it later on to see If I contacted you with any
questions.
I wonder how much trouble I will get in by writing the book, I really
dont care they can sue me if they want I dont have anything to lose, I
had to have surgery and a month later they fired me.

Please Email with your stories of this stinking
companyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Wonder how to write a book, send a message to a web site??
Get yourself a pad and go see them. You will never get the story until
you sit in the living room with them. Call first make a date and show
up on time. Or you will get the same next week as you got this week.

Name: Jsmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 January 2010

I am in the process of writing a book about CSX and there so called
safety policy, the harassment and intimidation and all the horror
stories of how they have treated employees. If you guys want to share
your stories feel free to email me at jsmith14449@yahoo.com. I only
want true stories, not hear say or rumors. Need to be factual
information. I promise you your name will not be mentioned anywhere,You
dont even have to leave your name. If you setup a private email all I
ask is that you check it later on to see If I contacted you with any
questions.
I wonder how much trouble I will get in by writing the book, I really
dont care they can sue me if they want I dont have anything to lose, I
had to have surgery and a month later they fired me.

Please Email with your stories of this stinking company

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 January 2010

They reached their job posting closing date and were taken down...like
all of 'em.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 January 2010

I just visited the CSX career page and all those conductor jobs that
were advertised several weeks ago are no longer there. Imagine that.
Gee, I wonder what happened to them, were they filled or perhaps
withdrawn?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 January 2010

The Unions do not know who they are sending stuff to or why.
Perfect example of how Unions spend your money.
The UTU spends more money on Booze and Comfy rooms, than it spends on
defending any member!

Check it out if you can get the numbers!

Name: been gone for 2 years
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 January 2010

Hey Mr. "If any of you believe your jobs are coming back, or new jobs
will be
created, your head is in the land of
OZ."..........................WELL SAID MAN!!!hahahahahahaha  That
right there should be put in the next union newsletter that comes out. 
I have not been in that crap hole for two years and I still get the news
letter in the mail.  Hey, they work well to start my fires during the
winter.  Keep them coming!!hahahahha

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 January 2010

I wouldn't be to aginst system seniority as long as everyone was prior
righted into their home rosters. I don't know how it works elsewhere,
but those who have significant seniority and havn't been offered
promotion isn't a big issue on the C&O because every time someone goes
to engine school they establish seniority for every junior Trainman on
the roster. They maintain that place as long as they don't decline it
when it's offered. If they do decline it they fall behind the youngest
trainman on the roster the day they passed it up. I'm guessing it's
about the same everywere?

Name: averagejoe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 January 2010

you know what i agree most people on the rr are related and loved ones
do get hired over more qualified people i had 2 intervues 1 the shop
forman and his bitch was there to hand pick the people for the supposed
recruiter a nigger who looked down on me while hiring his masstas white
kin folk 
the second time no formen or anything only recruiters got the job that
was over a year ago and still no word it was really embarissing for the
first 6 months or so explaining to people why i wasnt at the rr yet
so yes they do hire family for jobs that are for sure but they dont
give a hoot about the imaginary jobs or the ones they know pple will be
laid off from shortly 
so unless you were military or have high pull
if you get a job there my observation is your bieng played as a fool
or fucked from the get go

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 January 2010

System wide seniority might one day become a reality. I don't think
it'll happen till pre-94 protected employees retire. As for moving
around looking for work most of those hired the past 5 years or so
aren't that motivated. I've seen several get furloughed stood for
work in other places on their seniority zone and refused to go. How is
system wide going to help them? The UTU still has in place the 30 mile
radius rule where a person can't be forced to work outside of 30 miles
from their home terminal. The BLE gave up that agreement years ago.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 January 2010

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2009

That is Pandora's Box. At the present time system wide seniority for
engineers is getting some attention on CSX. The big question. How to
do
it and be fair an equitable? We have one big obstacle those hired
after
1994. Those falling under the second UTU crew consist that forced
people into engine service. Not all areas have sent people to engine
service within three years of their hiring date. Apparently there are
those with 10 years seniority who have not been promoted to engineer.
Then we have those who voluntarily bypassed engine service because
they
had younger people who could be forced. The arguement is some believe
it
should be based on the original hire date as a trainmen. Others like
myself believe it should be based on the seniority date into engine
service. This becomes a matter of separation of crafts. The main
reason
CSX wants engineer system wide seniority is because 25% of CSX
engineers
on the former Conrail in the Northeast corridor aren't under the BLE
SSA. CSX would like to incorporate them into other rosters to force
them out of the national contract. It does away with those engineers
freedom of choices. It kills CSX and the BLE to know that the Single
System Agreement is a sham. It never will be a true single system till
all engineers on CSX fall under one agreement. All I know is I'm glad
to get out of here. When a union goes against their members it's core
responsibility to protect it's members is lost. That goes for the UTU
with selling out jobs for decades which backfired on it's membership
like recently CSX going one man remote.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
System wide is just that, Hire date. Bid on any job that you want. WOW
that is really GOOD. 
Most folks today can ride the cars or pull the throttle, Give them the
chance to move around the system to find work.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 January 2010

Does anyone have any information that might help in a denied crossing
claim...?

Thanks In Advance.....

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 January 2010

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 December 2009

We read your post already in one section. It isn't necessary to post it
in all sections.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 December 2009

If any of you believe your jobs are coming back, or new jobs will be
created, your head is in the land of OZ. 

I personally don't and won't do anything for CSX unless I am
expicitly told to do so. An example, I am told to walk to my engine and
inspect it. Fine, No one can tell me how fast to walk. No one can tell
me how to inspect my engine or the time limit to do it in. Paperwork?
Broken pens, or the inspection forms not on the engine? I could care
less. I call the yardie.......let him tell me where and how to get a
pen or inspection forms. More time to relax. If I am relaxing, I can't
get hurt. Oh, unless one of the many idiots that work here flat switch a
car down into my track. Hard to believe but it does happen in this CSX
yard.

No, just don't care anymore. Don't care if I run out of time on
single main track. Don't really care if I am late for work. Don't
care if CSX doesn't pay me on time. My union guys will fix that for
me. May take 2 to 3 years (without interest) but I'll get my money. 

Don't care that the radio has static when the dispatcher tries to call
me. I don't move the train one inch until I fully understand what he or
she wants. I am not allowed to use (and will not) my cell phone to move
a train. I just wait X amount of time till the static on the radio
stops.

When I am stopped and a signal pops up.......I wait 2 or 3 minutes
hopefully) to make sure it doesn't drop in front of me. I see a
distant signal, I slow down, don't want that to drop on me either.
It's just safer this way.

Track speed 50mph.....45 is safer. Top restricted speed I operate at is
2 mph, which is very safe. CSX management should be proud of me, that I
am sure of, because I haven't run thru any switches.

All in all I like working here. Sure the hours are horrible,people show
up for work late, in yesterdays clothes, smell like cigarettes teeth not
brushed, but they are elite professionals.

These elite professionals will show off to you and new hires by
dispalying thier ignorance and stupidity of rules, regulations, and RR
operations. But then my union reps or management will talk to the new
hires and correct the problem,,,,,right? Well maybe the union or
management talks to the elite professional and straightens him or her
out.
Yeah, thats what happens where I work. Never seen it personally, but
"they" tell me it has happened. I feel safer when "they" tell me
things like that.

I am kinder to a stray dog, than to any union rep or CSX manager. I
hold both in complete disgust and distrust. Both are liars, and
thieves. What does the BLE do with my dues? Well in thier newsletters,
complete with pictures, they are playing golf, in conference in Las
Vegas, or discussing important union contracts at a nice resort
location......so they can fully concentrate on the matters at hand.

In closing, I,like many of you are nothing more than whores. CSX and
the unions are the pimps.

We get told how long to work. Where to work. How much we will get paid.
How much longer am I going to be a whore? I don't know. I do know it is
getting harder and harder to look at my self in the mirror. 

Are you brave enough to look in the mirror?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 December 2009

The carriers have been unsuccessful in having the case dismissed, but
the BNSF and others continues to say the complaint is without
merit...sure it is. This bears watching...it could have an enormous
impact on the carriers!

Lawsuit alleging rail collusion set to proceed
 
A closely watched lawsuit seeking class-action status against the top
U.S. freight railroads for allegedly colluding to inflate fuel
surcharges by billions of dollars is set to proceed with seven small
shippers as named plaintiffs, reports Dow Jones newswire.

Stephen Neuwirth, an attorney for the plaintiffs, said it is unlikely
that additional named shippers will be added to the suit by a Dec. 31
deadline.

"We have a group of plaintiffs that is representative of the class,"
said Neuwirth, who has been appointed one of two co-lead counsels for
the shippers.

If the suit is certified as a class action, any shipper during the
period of the allegations would be a member of the class and
potentially eligible for damages.

The top four U.S. freight railroads – BNSF, CSX, Norfolk Southern and
Union Pacific -- are defendants in the case. The railroads, which have
been unsuccessful in efforts to get the case dismissed, have vehemently
denied the allegations.

The American Chemistry Council, a trade organization that includes many
companies that ship products by rail, has claimed that the top four
railroads and Kansas City Southern overcharged shippers by $6.4 billion
through fuel surcharges between 2003 and early 2007.

"We believe this is a multi-billion-dollar case," Neuwirth said,
although he noted that the lawsuit hasn't asked for any specific
damage amount yet.

The shippers have until March 18 to file a motion seeking class-action
status, followed by a hearing on the class certification, likely in
September. The case is being handled by Judge Paul Friedman in the U.S.
District Court for the District of Columbia.

Investors have been taking a closer look at U.S. freight railroads
recently, after Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc. announced
plans in early November to buy the portion of BNSF that it doesn't
already own, marking Buffett's largest acquisition.

BNSF and some of the other railroads named in the lawsuit by shippers
reiterated their positions this week that the complaint is without
merit.

"Simply stated, BNSF did not conspire to fix prices on anything,"
said Suann Lundsberg, a spokeswoman for BNSF.

The shippers that have signed on to the lawsuit as named plaintiffs
include Dust Pro Inc.; U.S. Magnesium LLC; Dakota Granite Co.; Strates
Shows Inc.; Donnelly Commodities Inc.; Nyrstar NV; and Carter
Distributing Co. 

(The preceding article was published by Dow Jones newswire.)
 
December 29, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2009

That is Pandora's Box. At the present time system wide seniority for
engineers is getting some attention on CSX. The big question. How to do
it and be fair an equitable? We have one big obstacle those hired after
1994. Those falling under the second UTU crew consist that forced
people into engine service. Not all areas have sent people to engine
service within three years of their hiring date. Apparently there are
those with 10 years seniority who have not been promoted to engineer.
Then we have those who voluntarily bypassed engine service because they
had younger people who could be forced. The arguement is some believe it
should be based on the original hire date as a trainmen. Others like
myself believe it should be based on the seniority date into engine
service. This becomes a matter of separation of crafts. The main reason
CSX wants engineer system wide seniority is because 25% of CSX engineers
on the former Conrail in the Northeast corridor aren't under the BLE
SSA. CSX would like to incorporate them into other rosters to force
them out of the national contract. It does away with those engineers
freedom of choices. It kills CSX and the BLE to know that the Single
System Agreement is a sham. It never will be a true single system till
all engineers on CSX fall under one agreement. All I know is I'm glad
to get out of here. When a union goes against their members it's core
responsibility to protect it's members is lost. That goes for the UTU
with selling out jobs for decades which backfired on it's membership
like recently CSX going one man remote.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 December 2009

Just a Question?

Why is seniority restriced to certain areas and not system wide?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2009

NoMo

Exactly!!! Anything that has a clause for opting out is tougher to get
rid of in the long run. Seeing this opt out clause in the extension
made people feel safer it became another round of "if we don't like
it we'll vote it out next time". People aren't looking at it in the
long term. Stagnant wages that haven't kept up with inflation means
working more. Then not taking into consideration the new FRA safety
regs that requires manditory rest. We had a proposal at one union
meeting to do away with how rest days were structured. Some wanted to
go from 2 back to back days off every half to one day off a week to try
an circumvent the FRA manditory rest. At least with a gaurenteed two
days off a half under the SSA it can be extented with early mark off at
2000 and late mark up at 0400. On the railroad no matter what happens
there will be those who find fault. This new generation has to take off
the blinders and start looking at how things will affect them in 10-20
years not what is good for them now. In the long run this might come
back and bite them in the arse.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 December 2009

Hey Loco 30+:

It's like a temporary tax that's only passed for 2 or 3 years. The
only way it passes is if it's temporary; then it's forgotten about,
extended and 20 years later you're still paying it!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 December 2009

People can bitch and complain all they want about the SSA. It was the
BLE(T) membership who voted it in. For better words the lack of members
who voted. That was pathetic. Something that is the core essential of
everyday life on the railroad from wages to work rules a large
percentage opted to sit on the sidelines because they were to lazy to
take 5 minutes out of their life to mail a ballot. The blame rest
solely on these individuals. The union brought it to us, we never had
to accept it. The two biggest arguements from those who voted for it
were 1) they didn't want to wait 2-3 years for the national contract
negotiations 2) another dropout clause was added to the SSA for 2014.
In my experience "drop out clauses" are useless once something
happens it's here for good.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 December 2009

Hey Loco 1-10:

This time your beef is with the BLEt not CSX. If CSX doesn't want to
pay after 15 hours great. I'm sure nobody wants to stay longer than
that anyway. However, if that's the case it's incumbent on the BLEt
to make sure that CSX maintains adequate manpower to rotate crews or
run trains.

Negotiations is at least bi-lateral, give and take. If the union
doesn't fairly represent their membership, they are in breech of their
duty and subject to legal recourse. The membership better get their shit
together or suffer the consequences.

There's nothing like a three way unless you're the one in the middle!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 December 2009

I think it will be a losing battle no matter what.  This is what the
company wants, and thats what the union will give them through
negotiations, we've seen it all before. When everything is signed, the
union will tell you how we got such a good deal.  After everything is
said and done, we'll find out that we got screwed again with side
letters coming from all angles. 

Although I will agree on one thing, its time for the union to start
being a union again!  We have a lot of dead weight up top who aren't
thinking about the people they're supposed to represent.

The word is that this is going to be like June 1999 all over again. 
Does that mean we will also see changes even in the current SSA? 
Changes that will screw us even more?  I've already heard that the
company doesn't want to keep paying the continuous heldaway after 15
hrs. in the hotel.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 December 2009

Why stop there? Why not consolidate the entire system? No prior
rights...why would the BLEt even consider that?

Sounds like the membership better hunker down because this battle will
be fought on two fronts!

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 December 2009

The SSA is a piece of shit, which is why the engineers on the Conrail
Northern roster voted it down. So, what does Csx do? They are going to
expand the area of their seniority district, call it the Northern
Mid-Atlantic District.  This area will go from The Canadian border
through Virginia and W Virginia, New Jersey to Western Ohio.  They will
implement the SSA (and the B+O agreement for conductors) on territories
where it was voted down. "The proposed consolidation of seniority
districts will not create any new prior rights.  Current equity
arrangements will be eliminated"  I guess if the allmighty corporation
can't negotiate what it wants, it will just ram it down our throats. 
Time for our fucking unions at the national level to step up, but my
guess is we get boned again.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 December 2009

YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT....THEY ARE SELLING US OUT!

I'M TIRED OF HEARING HOW THE COMPANY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, AND
HOW WE GOT A GOOD DEAL WITH THIS SSA.

LITTLE BY LITTLE YOUR AGREEMENTS, WAGES, AND RIGHTS, ARE ALL BEING SOLD
UP THE RIVER BY YOUR TOP UNION OFFICIALS.

THIS KIND OF CONTRACT AND TREATMENT AMONG EMPLOYEES DIDN'T HAPPEN
YEARS AGO BECAUSE THE UNION & CONTRACT WAS ALL ABOUT THE MEMBERS BEST
INTEREST!  

TODAY YOUR UNION TOP OFFICIALS ARE BEING CAUGHT STEALING RED HANDED.

PAUL T. SORROW IS NOW OFFICIALLY THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE BLET, AND
REMEMBER IN CASE YOU ARE NOT AWARE, HE IS THE MAN WHO NEGOTIATED THE
SSA FOR CSXT.

WHO DOES THE SSA BENEFIT MORE, THE MEMBERS OR THE CARRIER?

PEOPLE BETTER OPEN THERE EYES!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 December 2009

Happy Holiday's to all my Union Brothers. Now that we have Demecrat
White House and Congress, when do the good times start. SSA agreemet
sucks and congrats to rhe conductors for now being the highest paid man
on the crew. Merry Christmas to our contract negotiators for the SSA
sell out. I'm sure your family has plenty of presents to pass around.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 December 2009

Merry Christmas to all my union brothers & sisters who just wanna go to
work, do there job, get paid in a correct manner, and last but not
least...not get hurt.


December 24,   2009.......and CSX STILL SUCKS!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 December 2009

Everyone settle down. The UTU and BLET are looking out for our best
interest(s), they don't care about dues, they care about us!

Without the support of these Unions we would be making $8.00 an hour.
Think about it.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 December 2009

To the loser who says CSX treats lumbee indians unequal: You say CSX has
fired 20 of the 60 of you. Here's a news flash genius, CSX is firing
everyone! It dosn't matter if you're black, white, yellow, red, or
blue, CSX fucking hates us all equally! They do not discriminate in who
they fire or follow around and harass. You're Engine ass better be
saying over and out like everyone else or your gonna get the same
treatment everyone else gets. I think the real issue here isn't that
you're kind is being treated unfaily, it's the fact that your being
treated like everyone else and not SPECIAL as your accustomed to. It's
just like the cival rights movement over the last 15 years or so. They
hide behind the banner of "equality" when in reality they achieved
that long ago and the modern agenda is a really a push toward
supremacy. I don't buy the shit you're trying to pass off as
discrimination. In really you're mearly reaping the benifits of true
equality, CSX style.

Name: averagejoe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 December 2009

hey there guys it is the christmas season all times for happiness lol
one year to the day csx told me i have a job but guess what no job the
sad part is that i actually thought i would get a job seeing as my
daddy didnt work for the rr, i wasnt in the military because i couldnt
decide what i wanted to do for myself, or i dont like to suck on big
hard harry jew peckers so to all you semi rich dick merry fuckin
christmas
tell csx to blow me cuase i still wont blow them for a job

Name: JJ Boyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 December 2009

Just found out thet a long time fellow employee at collinwood ohio yard
in cleveland has a snitch . he pretends to be your freind and the rats
you out to the company . Conductor JIM BOYD  may you rot in hell . the
trainmaster are bad ,But you come from behind and stab your brothers in
the back !!!!  You better work in a well lighted area Jimmy boy

Name: sad
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 December 2009

i have heard that in the start of 2010 , everyone will be back to work.
has anyone heard about this if so please let me know .....

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 December 2009

Dear All- 

I post this link for your consideration and comment:
http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/legal-news-announcements/18954-bringing-light-sense-dlc-process.html

Take Care & Be Safe.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 December 2009

ZOMG Tony Ingram is retiring at the end of december

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 November 2009

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 November 2009

Hey Other:

"Furthermore were does your sense of entitlement come from? What are
you owed?"

Let me see..."The Great Society" perhaps you're old enough to
remember? Welfare, food stamps, public housing, Social Security, WIC,
aid to dependent children, unemployment insurance and the list goes on
and on.

Although most of these programs existed before 1964, they were all
greatly expanded after Johnson's reforms and the advent of the
"Great
Society". 

Everyone over the age of 45, two maybe three generations, is a child
of
the "Great Society", that's a huge percentage of the U.S.
population.
Money talks and bullshit walks, so as long as there are politicians
there will be entitlement programs. They may ebb and flow depending on
which party is in power but like taxes entitlements are here to stay!

**********************************************************************

Oh you are so correct with the above statement, and to that we are a
demon of our own creation, and only getting worse in today’s society of
me first and something for nothing.  No one has a good work ethic
anymore and this was created by all of us who tried to provide for our
families better than was provided for us! 

With all the programs that you mentioned above you as well as every one
else are entitled to but, with that being said in the private work force
what are you entitled to? Like I said before a paycheck?  That’s it! 

I have had a pretty fortunate life provided by myself doing what is
expected of me by myself and my family. This has been passed on to my
children as well to create a sense of ownership in there future knowing
that no one else is going to do it for you, so don’t expect it.  Sadly
this is not the case in today’s times everyone from GM to my neibores 
are looking for handouts.  This has taken all of the accountability and
responsibility out of the decisions we make making it easier to blame
someone else when we fail. I sorry I don’t by it. All this attitude
does is allow some one else to pay for your mistakes. 

This also confirms my last post but because I speak of accountability
and responsibility I could not possibly be right, it’s always some one
else fault that you did something wrong or the decisions you made
didn’t work the way you planned… Its time people stand up and are
accounted for… and stop crying about it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 November 2009

Are you all really this pathetic? If you hate CSX this much really make
a statement and quit.  No; that’s what I thought just a bunch of
cowards bitching about a company that you work for, imagine that. 

I might not be seeing the whole picture here but I know enough about
unionized work forces to know that you have it very well if you still
have a paycheck in this economy were layoffs and furloughs are the norm
these days.  

Furthermore were does your sense of entitlement come from? What are you
owed?  I don’t work in your industry but a very similar field, were
safety and on the job awareness is of the utmost importance, and if not
respected in can have life ending consequences so safety is first and
foremost your responsibility!  With that being said back to my original
questions what are you entitled to? What are you owed? Let me tell you
so you don’t hurt yourselves thinking about it…..It’s a paycheck, its
that simple, if your work your entitled to get paid, that it. 

If your looking for someone to blame, I have an idea, blame yourselves.
If you read this and listen this is true.  When was the last union
meeting you were at?  Do you even know were the meetings are, on what
day and when?  This is how you are to blame, no participation in your
own labor organization and there for your local officers are elected on
a good ol’boys club way of doing things, they are in it for themselves
and only themselves, but you put them in there.  Do you understand how
your General Chairman & Vice General Chairman are elected?  Here’s a
hint by the people who are in the local positions that you elected. Now
these people who are looking out for #1 and that isn’t you have free
rein to put in people just like themselves in the next level the labor
organizations to which you pays dues, oh I almost forgot offices are
probably right next to the companies main offices, correct?  I wonder
why that is, let me tell you because they can! Because you allow it! 
Because of your lack of interest in your own local, were you pay dues
to, were you don’t care what goes on at……..

So back to what started this rant, just resign I am sure that will fix
all of your problems at least with CSX it will. 

No you won’t do that though; why; because they aren’t handing out
60-70K or more a year jobs every day, that’s why! So bitch all you want
to because most of you are just hypocrites coming on here to bitch at
how bad you have it working for this company that gives you a paycheck
so you can provide for yourself and your family.  

That’s right I’m wrong, here’s an idea, if it’s that bad were you are 
get up go look yourself in the mirror and blame him, then get involved
locally and do something about it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 28 November 2009

when are we gonna  stop  fighting  each other?   and start   going 
after  the railroads?  do  you know  you can sue  your officals in
court  for ?  or  make  their personal lives miserable? hey?   they
wanna fuck with your job and your  family ?  lets start fucking with
them?  do it in a way no one will ever know? catch them in any act? go
after them in your off time? dont stalk them  but? well you get the
idea ? you guys that are  apes better wake up? officials are not your
buddies

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 November 2009

Here they go again...best thing that could happen to the UTU is
decertification...save all the members a lot of money!

      http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=49790

Name: Big Railroad Johnson
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 November 2009

NoMo

When were you ever at Hawethorne?

By the way do you really know how to use adjectives correctly.

This is a FACT Base Company   aka  CSX   Yea Right!!  Sounds absurb?

I would find your thinking is out of line just like the adjective of 

preposterous in your post below.

Big Railroad Johnson

Name: US Justice Department
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 November 2009

The following article is proof that millions of dollars in FELA
(Railroad employee injury claim) do NOT go to the injured railroad
worker - they go to GREASE THE GREEDY PALMS of the Unions, Railroads,
and lawyers around the country. 

This is just the tip of the iceberg - it is NOT an 'isolated'
incident.... railroad carriers, including CSX,  spend BILLIONS a year
on FELA claims, about 20 TIMES that spent by comparable state workers
compensation (non-railraod FELA type) employee claims. It does not take
a rocket scientist to see this payment imbalance is VASTLY out of whack.


So, WHY IS THERE SUCH AN IMBALANCE OF PAYMENTS? What do FELA claims
cost so much more than identical state claims? For every $100 a state
system pays, FELA pays $2,000.00  For example, over the course of one
year the UP paid out $5 Billion in FELA claims (yes, $1.5 billion!!),
while state compensation programs with the same number of workers with
the same injuries paid out $300 million - by any calculation, that
difference is statistically IMPOSSIBLE - unless there is a MASSIVE
KICKBACK PROGRAM in place and running smoothly wtihout interuption.
Where does all that FELA money go - billions of dollars of overpayments
between the four big railroad - UP, NS, BNSF, and CSX?????  

It sure doesn't go to the injured railroad workers. 

Railroad Managers, Directors and Executives in charge of administering
FELA claims are in the absolute unchecked perfect position to take HUGE
kickbacks from Unions, and from Union appointed FELA attorneys -
everyone gets rich in this game....Unions get a kickback from FELA
attorneys, FELA attorneys get pumped up settlement awards approved by
railroad execs. Yes, you can bet that CSX FELA claims executive get
kickbacks from both FELA attorneys and Union bosses.  

THIS IS WHY FELA CLAIM PAYMENTS ARE 20 TIMES HIGHER THAT STATE RUN
WORKERS COMPENSATION PROGRAMS, and is why the Railroad 'system' will
NEVER get rid of FELA - it is TOO DAMN LUCRITIVE FOR THE CROOKS TO GIVE
IT UP - at the sole expense of the stockholder AND the injured railroad
worker.  

For decades we have heard about how 'fake' railroad workers' injury
claims have driven up the cost of FELA payments. Now you know its
BULLSHIT!!!!!! The whole damn FELA system needs to be investigated and
the crooks need to be cleaned out!!  

Here's the blurb posted earlier by Bubba.  Trust me, the BLET
president is NOT the only one getting rich off the FELA system - there
are hundreds of others who are getting kickbacks too. If the BLET's
president spills his guts to cut a deal, many more heads will roll -
and you can bet it will include a cadre of union AND railroad
executives as well as a boodle of corrupt lawyers...

If you who are reading this know of similar illegal   FELA kickback
schemes, contact your local U.S. Department of Justice field office. 

****************************************************************   
BLET PRESIDENT ARRESTED ON BRIBE CHARGE ( press release issued by U.S.
Justice Department, Eastern District, St. Louis, Missouri).   

Edward W. Rodzwicz, president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive
Engineers and Trainmen, was arrested on a federal complaint charging
him with bribery, Acting U.S. Attorney Michael W. Reap announced Oct.
13.  Rodzwicz is the sitting president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive
Engineers and Trainmen (BLET), a national labor union with over 55,000
U.S.A. railroad members. It is a division of the International
Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT).  According to  affidavit filed with
criminal complaint, BLET
maintains a list of designated legal counsel (DLC), who are recommended
to their membership to handle injury cases under the Federal Employers
Liability Act (FELA). DESIGNATION AS A DLC GENERATES VERY LUCRITIVE
BUSINESS FOR (UNION) DESIGNATED FELA ATTORNEYS. The national president
of the BLET has final authority over the designation of FELA attorneys.
In February 2009, an internal compliance committee recommended that a
particular DLC attorney for the BLET should lose his designation, due
to alleged violations of DLC Rules of Conduct.  On March 10, 2009,
Rodzwicz approached that attorney in Little Rock, Ark., and solicited a
payment from that attorney in exchange for allowing him to retain his
DLC designation. The DLC attorney contacted the Department of Labor,
Office of Inspector General.  In subsequent meetings at the attorney's
office in St. Louis, and at Harrah's Casino, Las Vegas, Rodzwicz
solicited and agreed to accept a cash payment of $10,000 from the
attorney, plus the promise of an additional cash payment of $10,000
after Rodzwicz allowed him to retain his designation.  Rodzwicz
accepted a cash payment from the attorney on April 28, 2009,
in Las Vegas, and he sent a letter allowing the attorney to retain his
designation on May 1, 2009. He accepted a second cash payment of
$10,000 from the attorney on Sept. 16, 2009, in Kansas City, Mo. 
The complaint was filed in the Eastern District of Missouri last week
and remained suppressed until the arrest of Mr. Rodzwicz this morning
by agents with the Department of Labor, Office of Inspector General, at
his home in Avon, Ohio. Daniel R. Petrole, acting inspector general,
U.S. Department of Labor, stated: "Union members expect that their
officials will do what is right on their behalf. If these allegations
are proven, there has been a serious breach of the union members'
trust. My agency will continue to work with the U.S. Attorney's Office
to investigate this type of crime." 
Rodzwicz, 63, was charged with one violation of 18 U.S.C. section 666,
bribery in connection with a federally funded program; and one
violation of 18 U.S.C. section 1952, interstate travel to carry on
unlawful activity. He made his initial appearance this afternoon in
Cleveland. If convicted, 18 U.S.C. section 666 carries a maximum
penalty of ten years in prison and/or fines up to $250,000; 18 U.S.C.
section 1952 carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and/or
fines up to $250,000. The charges set forth in a complaint are merely
accusations, and the defendant is presumed innocent until and unless
proven guilty. October 14, 2009.
********************************************************************

Name: bubba
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 November 2009

NoMo,

  U the man,  wish we had more guys like you around.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 November 2009

Padding his time slip while at Hawthorne...preposterous!

I loved when they wanted to piss test me...rush us in and tell me to
see the TM. Always peed before I got off the engine ... always made at
least 4 hours of OT...sometimes I just said "times up" and left, they
couldn't do a thing about it...HOS and all that you know.

Learn to play their game and make money!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 November 2009

Todesengel

You might recall Rick Weed got caught padding his time slip when he was
(NOT Really) working as a Hawethorne Yerd Master.   Now he is moving up
the ladder with his GED at CSX.       No where else !!!!      Maybe he
did something else to get some overtime.


He must be doing something useful for someone.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 November 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 November 2009

csx treats lumbee indians unequal. we are from pembroke nc and they
have
fire 20 of 60 lumbees for unfair things.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Must be firewater. White folks sold it to you and took everything that
the many indian nation's had. Shameful, now go get them with the
Casino's and smokeshops, and make em pay up. I really love it when the
Fed's come a hunting indian business and can't get a grip on the
money. Pay back is long term.

Name: Todesengel
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 November 2009

In response to "The Lowdown On detoit Trainmasters"
The bottem line is NO one in the manger crafts ever have to suffer
much,no matter what they have done.Anyone from the T&E department would
be fired;these guys took early retirements,went back to their crafts or
faced a demotion.They get away with murder.Ask Rick Reed;he is a piece
of dung but the company does nothing to him.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 November 2009

csx treats lumbee indians unequal. we are from pembroke nc and they have
fire 20 of 60 lumbees for unfair things.

Name: Soon to retire
E-mail: 
Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for N/A
Posted: 13 November 2009

I have spent a lot of time reading these posts!  I am surprised to learn
that many of us at CMC are oblivious to much of what happens to T&E! The
T&E have my upmost respect for the demanding hours and job that they do.
But, working the desk that I work, I must say I understand the
frustration!  Its frustrating for T&E when when some at CMC give you a
hard time, but its also frustrationg for callers as well.  We are
constantly "monitored"  I hate hearing that callers are to blame for
many of the problems that T&E encounter!  Many (not all I know) callers
will help with what they can! But we are with our own limits as to what
we are able to do. Doing someone a "favor" that is just not possible
without getting a caller in hot water (sometimes suspension) is just
not worth it.  

It gets frustrating for us when people "shoot" the boards just to
avoid work! Or marks off sick just because they dont want to catch a
certain train or dont want to work with who they are paired up with! 
After working an area so long you start to know whos who and what they
do.  Our job is to call the trains. when we delay them we have to
answer as to why (to more than one person,) and that gets old quick! 
(Communication is NOT the strong suit of the company, as I am sure many
of you know)  Running the rosters is what we must do to try to get a
crew for the train!  If we dont "look" for people to work what we are
delaying then thats a write-up for us! and after so many of those it
goes to "counseling" and then sometimes an investigation!  So yes
getting a crew for a train is my #1 priority, its my job.  And I am
well aware that it gets aggravating for many to have their phones
ringing all night! (I personally hate calling people that I know are
asleep) I can go on and on here but any employee should understand what
I mean.   

  We are under a union contract just as the T&E are! A contract thats
violated so often I cant keep up!  To get days off the correct way is
sometimes nearly impossible for us as well.  Ive had to miss many
family things due to that.  So please try to remember that the callers
are not there to "screw" anyone! We are not all bad!  Please don't
group us all as 1 in the same! Because I really cant think of anyone
that I call that would say I am mean or disrespectful to anyone that
calls in!  I think most would say that I am helpful and try to get a
resolution to any problems that one may have!  

I cant wait to see the responses I get to this!  I look forward to
reading them!

Caller 
 


I

Name: Former CSX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 November 2009

CSX and the union both have their problems. If you are sick of paying
your union dues....look into the Beck Law. At least CSX pays you. you
union takes you money with no payback. Heck you cant even vote on
stuff. I thought you were supposed to be tight.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 November 2009

THE LOWDOWN ON THE DETROIT TRAINMASTERS

RECENTLY ALL 5 TRAINMASTERS AT ROUGEMERE YARD IN DEARBORN MI WERE
PLACED ON ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE BY THE NORTHERN REGION MANAGER CINDY
SANBORN. THE 4 WERE ACCUSED OF LETTING CREWS STEAL TIME, COVERING UP
RUN THROUGH SWITCHES, DERAILMENTS AND INJURIES. AMONG THOSE ACCUSED WAS
JIM HORNER, DETROITS TERMINAL MANAGER WHO IS ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED
OFFICIALS ON THE ENTIRE CSX SYSTEM BY BOTH T&E EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS
OTHER OFFICIALS. LAST FRIDAY THEIR FATE WAS HANDED DOWN BY DIVISION
MANAGER JEFF WHITE. MR. HORNER AS WELL AS TM GORDON WILSON WERE FORCED
TO RETIRE WHILE TM JOE TUCKER WAS DEMOTED AND TM BOB BARNHARD WAS
ALLOWED TO GO BACK TO CRAFT AS CONDUCTOR. THE 5TH  TRAINMASTER JASON
HARRIS WAS GIVEN A GOLDEN TICKET OUT OF THE DIVISION TO AVON INDIANA
WHERE HE HAS WANTED TO GO SINCE ARRIVING AT DETROIT. SO WHY DID THE
OTHER 4 GET FIRED AND NOT JASON YOU ASK, WELL MR HARRIS IS THE ONE WHO
STARTED ALL OF THIS BY SQUEELING LIKE THE FAT PIG HE IS TO THE REGIONAL
MANAGER ABOUT THE WRONG DOINGS IN DETROIT AND ABOUT HOW HE WAS TIRED OF
HAVING HIS JOB THREATENED. MR HARRIS DID MORE COVERING UP THAN THE
OTHER 4 TRAINMASTERS COMBINED, INCLUDING TAKING CASH FROM A CREW TO
COVER UP A RUN-THROUGH SWITCH AND PERSONALLY COMPLETING TIME TICKETS
FOR CREWS. MR.HARRIS SPENT THE MAJORITY OF HIS TIME IN DETROIT SHOPPING
ON EBAY AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ESCAPE THE DREADED CHICAGO
DIVISION. THEN 2 MONTHS AGO WHILE AT A MANAGERS MEETING IN PHILADELPHIA
HE DECEIDED TO OPEN HIS FAT MOUTH AND BETTER HIS CAREER BY RUINING THE
CAREERS OF 4 OTHER MEN. THE CSXT MANAGMENT AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WITHIN
THE NORTHERN REGION DID NOTHING TO INVESTIGATE MR HARRIS'S CLAIMS. IF
THEY HAD THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN WHO THE REAL SHITBAG WAS AND SHOVED THE
WHISTLE UP THE FAT WHISTLEBLOWERS ASS. SO IF YOU WORK IN OR OUT OF AVON
YARD WATCH YOUR ASS. WHETHER YOUR A UNION EMPLOYEE OR AN OFFICIAL, BE
CAREFUL BECAUSE JASON HARRIS WILL STEP ON YOU TO GET TO THE TOP. (OR
EVEN JUST TO GET OUT OF YOUR DIVISION)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 November 2009

anyone  hear  about csx employees stealing time in detroit, trainmasters
and road forman getting fired also?

Name: TRUTH-NO LIES
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 October 2009

CSX Sux is the correct name for the local Russel, Kentucky roundhouse,
Raceland Yards, and Huntington Repair Shop in Huntington, WV. The bald
headed sucker that does the hiring really looks and acts like he is
straight from Russia. He walks into interviews like he is being
bothered to see you and thinks his shit don't stink. Unless your last
name is one of his sucks your family will never have the opportunity to
be able to work for the railroad. Experience and schooling does not mean
anything with CSX in the Tri-State Area of Ashland, ky / Ironton, Ohio /
and Huntington, Wv. I hope the Russian gets his one day as all people
do. The railroad in our area really sux as they have leaks in tank cars
in the Raceland yard and causes business to shut down and don't bother
to pay the local businees employees or loss of busniess due to their
stupdiness and no concern for human life. The big shot Mr. Russian bald
head run around like he was trying to hide the mess he created. The
local news media did let it get out after people in the local cities of
raceland, worthington, and wurtland was evacuated and local business was
close. SHAME ON CSX for not leaving a man in control of this area of the
railroad who has no concern for the people living in the area near the
railroad. I have lived here for 56 years and it is the worst I have
ever seen it. CSX REALLY DOES SUCK!

Name: Red
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 October 2009

Hey Russell Conductor,
   I woundnt be worried about the restriction of senority of on Russell
I2 jobs at Hinton, I would be worried about why their putting your jobs
on at some place other then your home terminal! Makes a lot of since
for the company to add jobs at terminal 167 miles away from your home.
They are hoping you Russell guys dont take them. That way both Hinton
and Russell crews lose and CSX wins like always.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 October 2009

Here's something all you old head T&E should enjoy...you know what I'm
talking about!


            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkkM7K6smQA

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 October 2009

October 18, 2009 & CSX still SUCKS!


Cheap Skate Xpress

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 October 2009

Anybody know why they are restictin Russell senority on the I2 pooles at
Hinton when the contract clearly says Russell men have first rights to
them.  Labor Relations told me that there is a magic number on the
roster and that number is 2214 so if you younger than than your not
allowed to mark up on them but if your older you can.  What the hell,
does senority even matter who cares if I'm younger thatn that if a
older man wants the job then he will kick me.

Name: cindy mills
E-mail: cindy2989@aol.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 October 2009

My husband worked for csx for 29 years he died in 2002 since then i have
got nothing from the railroad no answers to any of my questions i am in
the process of forcloser on my home i have received none of my husbands
penison the problem is my husbands ex-wife has worked for the railroad
in the office and she has changed paperwork at csx so i would no be
able to recieve anything i cant get anyone to help me because they  are
all friends with her so i have lost everything because of this  I can
prove everything i am saying but no body will listen no body will
return none of my calls  i hate to say this but csx transportation has
distroyed me and caused me to lose everthing my husband work for i hope
one day someone from csx will call me and listen to what i have to say
it has been 7 years since my husband died an i havent go one red cent
from csx railroad or anything to help me in any way  i am disable and
just trying to live and they have been the rudest people i have ever
had to deal with it seems at a time like this they would try to work
with familys of deceasted employees not try to distroy them thanks to
anyone for listening cindy mills 7704246675

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 October 2009

On Columbus Day while everything is shutdown up north except the RR;
the UTUIA decides to announce this:

     http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=49273

Nice going guys, You're so full of shit a Fleet enema won't help!

Mike, you're the next one goin' to prison...what will that be...4 in
a row!

Name: dillweed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 October 2009

CSX sucks almost as bad as the Unions that they own. I don't care if it
is BLE or UTU- they both suck CSX D. and they both screw the Union
members. I guess the RR used to be a decent job. Those days are long
gone by. With the FRA hos laws in place, they have pretty much capped
our pay. F all the BS.

Name: fuck
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 October 2009

yall must work for bnsf

Name: Dead Peasant
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 October 2009

http://jonathanturley.org/2009/02/25/peasant-uprising-widow-sues-late-husbands-employer-over-dead-peasant-insurance-policy/

"the employer of her late husband Daniel Johnson was to receive $1.6
million after his death under a practice known in the industry as a
“dead peasant” insurance policy. Under this common practice, employers
take out life insurance on employees and write off the payments as a
business expense. They then collect a windfall when one of the
“peasants” die."

CSX do this?

Name: Thanks for Nothing
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 September 2009

There is a lot of truth in this site. I tried for over a year to get a
career started with CSX through two testing sessions and two job
interviews. The jobs was for the Russell roundhouse and the Russell
yard. Both were a waste of my time and theirs as it was all a put on
for the public. Mr. Skinhead (the top management offical) was very
obnoxious and acted as if he was retarded. During the interviews he
acted like it was a bother for him to be there. Of course it was as he
knew who was going to get the jobs. The very people that are
complaining about working. I was willing to work any shift any hour and
start with a forward look to a new career with responsibility. But
instead I was treated like I was a crimminal and wasting his time for
showing up to take a test he probably can't pass and never saw as he
probably had the inside track for his job. I was at first disppointed
that I didn't get a career to enjoy but after I found out how the
positions were filled I jumped with joy. Whoever you knew the most in
top management at CSX got you the job, not on your skills that could be
used for the commpany's interest. Well Mr. Skinhead I hope you enjoy
the people you hired and get everything coming to you. I hope the
company sees the truth in you and puts you on skidrow where you belong.
No wonder people are complaining if all CSX management likes the look of
you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 September 2009

Ok.  YOu win.  My real name is Mike Ward.

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 September 2009

OK! I see you like to my screen name. I wonder if you are Man enough to
come out and give us your real name! You can play all the games you
want, but you are starting to bore the he'll out of me. I am starting
to beleive this is Suckassalot that is using my name. After all only he
would come up with constant anal penetration. Come on now GET A LIFE! Go
play with Bonzo your wife and use your own screen name! 

You are nothing but a Fucking loser- What Happened to you while you
were growing up? I wonder that your mother didn't give you the hugs &
kisses, did she spike you on the floor like a football or did she let
your father, uncles and their friends & neighbors molest you! I could
go on but your not even worth it, life is short just like yourself with
nobody wants to be your friend you are what other people would call a No
Life Hermit. What is your pupose in life? Why do you choose to try &
Fuck with my name and post your Bullshit!  Forget it you FUCKING JUNGLE
CRICKET!

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 September 2009

Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen.
    We here at CSX do really not appreciate your concerns of Safety,
Behaviors of Train Masters, and other Supervision Personnel. I am going
to launch a missle into these concerns. I have also created a
more aggressive team of Nazi Investigators headed by the recreated Home
Office of the Mobile Officer I. (HOMO I). This Office will Investigat
all the Claims that were posted here and forward the results to the
proper Personnel for interrogation and torture, and will stick a spike
up your ass.

HOMO I  will also Ignore all alledged white collar crime and thoroughly
investigate all union thefts that have been increasing
of CSX Property. There will be a change of Command so there will be 
total confusion such the CSX Police will no longer fall under Stupidity
and Lackies- They will be deployed under the new name of Honor
Organization Mobile Offfice II (HOMO II) Units this Unit will fall
under the Un-enforcement Arm of HOMO I. 

The Newly created HOMO I Office of the HOMO II mployees are
Sworn Nazi Enforcement Whores of Transporation Surrogates (NEWTS) 
Federal Commishoned Special Agents. I must inform all Employees that
the Newly created Office is
unlike the CSX Police. They are Naked Homo Special Agents they can
be Identified by their issued Fig Leaves and rusty spikes just for
Suckassalot.  If encountered by a Naked Agent you are to give full
compliance (bend over) or face formal Discipline Charges.

The Office of the HOMO will also Investigate all baseless 
Threats, Racial Descrimination, Etc. CSX has an absolute Tolerence
Policy for Work Place Violence, Racial Discrimination and Sexual
Fornication.  All Reports, including videos and pictures, will be
forwarded to myself for my personal private review and will be dealt
with accordingly. This can or will lead up to Promotion and Six Sigma
training for any managment personnel, and  Termination and Criminal
Charges on any union employee violators. The Selection Process has
already started with a few members in here by utilyzing their
Information Provided and their Home HTML Connections, such as NoMo,
RRJ, Lloyd, Suckassalot, Sam the Slave, Binheer2long, Goober, and many
others. 

I am Pleased to Provide an Extra layer of Protection on our Dedicated
Managers and Supervisors, and stick spikes up the asses of jackoffs
like suckassalot. 

I would like to Thank You for taking out time to read this
Announcement. Have a very Safe Day.

                                                                      

                M. Ward  


All stupid Employees are Required to have your CSX Idetification
visable at all times while on Company Property.

Name: Mike Ward
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 September 2009

Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen.
    We here at CSX do really appreciate your concerns of; Safety,
Behaviors of Train Masters, and other Supervision Personnel. I am going
to launch a Investigation into these concerns. I have also created a
more aggressive team of Investigators headed by the recreated Office of
the Inspector General (OIG). This Office will Investigat all the Claims
that were posted here and forward the results to the proper Personnel.

The Office of the Inspector General (OIG) will also Investigate all
alledged white collar crime as well as Thefts that have been increasing
of CSX Property. There will be a chain of Command so there will be no
confusion such the CSX Police will no longer fall under Security and
Safety- They will be deployed under the new name of Mobile Tactical
Units this Unit will fall under as the Enforcement Arm of the Office of
the Inspector General (OIG). 

The Newly created Office of the Inspector General(OIG) Employees are
Sworn Law Enforcement Officials (LEO) Federal Commishoned Special
Agents. I must inform all Employees that the Newly created Office is
unlike the CSX Police. They are Plain Clothed Special Agents they can
be Identified by their issued Credentials and Badge. If encountered by
a Special Agent you are to give full compliance or face formal
Discipline Charges.

The Office of the Inspector General(OIG) will also Investigate all
Threats, Racial Descrimination, Etc. CSX has a Zero Tolerence Policy
for Work Place Violence and Racial Discrimination. All Reports will be
forwarded to myself for review and be dealt with accordingly. This can
or will lead up to Termination and Criminal Charges on any violators.
The Selection Process has already started with a few members in here by
utilyzing their Information Provided and their Home HTML Connections.

I am Pleased to Provide an Extra layer of Protection on our Dedicated
Employees.
I would like to Thank You for taking out time to read this
Announcement. Have a very Safe Day.

                                                                       
                M. Ward  


All Employees are Required to have your CSX Idetification visable at
all times while on Company Property.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 September 2009

Your CSX Union Madman is a Homophobic Bigot. Pitiful.

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 September 2009

HELLO, HELLO! Safety Strike , Nomo & Others ! 

Have you even read what I POSTED! Damn you guys are Ignorant or Blind!


I have said that we do have the right to REFUSE! Any job that can or
will put us in harms way!

We are all Granted this Right under the FRA. Why are we bitching when
there is a route there already!

The Company can not retaliate against you! Once you excercise you right
to Refuse! 

No.1, Document the Situation and have witnesses sign it. If no witness
is there then document it yourself!

Try to Excersise this right with the proper Supervision! If nothing is
done then Report it to the FRA! Point Blank This is our Rights that you
may not know of or the Company hides from you!

I am tired of hearing the Bitching! We have our Rights so let's use
them!
The Company can tell us 1 Thing but it is up to the FRA that throws in
the Final Ruling!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 September 2009

HOMOPHOBIC BIGOTRY....

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 September 2009

Hey Suckassalot, The only thing I would like to scream is YOU when I
find out who you are! A Bitch can run but can't hide forever. Your
name will be found out & I will be more than happy to share it here!
Your days are running out you Bitch Ass Homo.

Name: JLB
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 September 2009

I will have to be honest, I really wonder how many of you really work
for CSX because the better majority of you sound like disgruntled
"railfans" may have known the management & TM's but never got on
because of your lack of education. All I will say is grow the heck up!

Name: Lord SuckaLot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 September 2009

Monkey Boys,

Your next assignment: 

 http://www.stinalisa.com/HokeyPokey.html


Love and Kisses,

Lord SuckaLot
CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 September 2009

How I would love to drive a spike between the eyes of suckassalot!
There is only word to describe sirsuckassalot & that is 100% LOSER!
Too much time on his hands to be any kind of Employee!

So here is some words of advice you, Monkey!
Sit back & read but don't post you should enjoy it while you choke on
a banana!
Turn red & blue then just Die! You will not be missed at all.

Nobody ever misses an asshole such as yourself! I wonder are you
enjoying yourself or are you really that bored? It's time to seperate
the Idiots from the Men! How could you call yourself a real man, after
all you admit that you are a Flaming Homo! I guess your mother is proud
of her long lost little girl! Now I must admit I was against abortions
but after reading your posts you are mainly 1 that escaped! This
dosen't at all excuse you! Please just let me find out who you are, I
will eventually find out it dosen't take a rocket scientist either. A
Monkey that you are will try to avoid detection after all that's a
Monkey's natural defense. You are definetly overdue for a
confrontation! I don't care what you try to respond back with.

A mind is a shameful thing to waste, but as we can tell your mind is
Gone! Now as for a comeback it is way to late! Once a Retard always a
Retard that there is no if's or but's about it. 

So go Fuck Your own Monkey Ass!
Obey this as if were M. Wards Directive.

Remember Managers like to obey & not to disapoint a Directive, you are
sure a run in a mil along with the other Suck Ups in Management!

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 September 2009

CSX TRANSPORTATION " How We Move to Destroy Jobs and the Work Forces
"


NEW JOB POSTING
CSX HEADQUARTERS 
Jacksonville, FL.

TITLE: HEAD MASTER
SALARY: VARIES $4.50 HR - Access Card Deposited
HOURS: M - F  WITH MADNATORY WEEKENDS.
HOURS: 7A- 3P BUT SUBJECT TO 24 HOUR RULES.

DUTIES: Wipe the Asses of all of Senior Mangement. This includes and is
not limited of using your tounge in place of toilet paper.

Computer skills are not required, a pencil and paper is acceptable
since the price of printer ink is outrageous.

Must be an Alcohol or Narcotics user at all times.
Must at all times think that you are better than all Unionized
Employees.
 

QUALIFICATIONS - Pre School Dropout, No Common Sense, Drools, Basic
Math, 
Writing. RETARDS will Be the first prefence with an additional 5500
Points.
College Degrees will place in last prefence with -2500 Points.


This job was created for a Brown Noser who's Name is suckalot! All
others Need Not Apply.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 September 2009

Lord suck a lot....a person who thinks he/she is clever, witty, etc.

How sad that one who obviously suffers from Narcissistic Personality
Disorder does not see what a fool he/she is - of course those who
suffer from the disorder never see themselves for what they are.

Lord Suck - you need help.

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 September 2009

My oh my, Suckalot talks alot of shit!
Corporate idiots are chosen and hired by the severity of
retardation,isn't  this correct suckassalot! 

The Corporation seems to be looking for a handout from the Government
point blank.
How much money was wasted to buy Conrail! This was a failure that is
being shoved on the employees by forms of furloghs. Too bad people want
to joke around with somebody's livelyhood.

It does not suprise me that he talks about knob polishing, such a
flaming Homosexual. I bet he's into child porn also. The way he tries
to be creative is a waste of talent that makes it no wonder that he
does work in Corporate. I have to ask that will he e er admit his real
name or is he such a coward and continue to hide and post stupid
comments!

I am not even going to put myself through this Bullshit. I have better
things to do instead of trying to make out his useless comments. Hello
suckassalot, you  must have plenty of time on your hands, I know you
must be Furloghed yourself! The RRB Unemployment sucks dosen't it you
have to sit there and wait for your pay every 2 weeks. The Corporate
side isn't anymore protected than a tick on a dog's ass. 

I have seen Managers come and go for years now and it dosen't bother
me one bit. As  for you a speck in a Corporate world change can happen
over night, in our world we can just bump, transfer etc. and still have
a job. CSX Sucks dosen't it that they hired just to fire you. What a
waste of a college degree just to wind up unemployed. So you can
continue your useless life by posting all the dumb comments you want!
but just remember we are the backbone of this pathetic corporation.


Madman the Enemy of all Corporations

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 September 2009

Hello friends,

I would just like to take this time to wish everyone a Happy Labor
Day!

It's September 7, 2009.....Although I hate to say it, CSX Still SUCKS!

Name: ME
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 September 2009

I got this the other day please tell what should i do??   PERMANENT
TRANSFER TO CORBIN/LOYALL, KY OR SELKIRK, NY

THE COMPANY IS OFFERING TO ALL CSXT TRAIN SERVICE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE IN
ACTIVE SERVICE ON AUGUST 27, 2009, ON THE DATE OF THIS BULLETIN,
(INCLUDING FURLOUGHED STATUS) AT THE ABOVE CSXT LOCATIONS LISTED AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PERMANENTLY TRANSFER TO CORBIN/LOYALL, KY OR SELKIRK,
NY.

VACANCIES BEING FILLED BY THIS TRANSFER NOTICE:

LOCATION              DISTRICT

CORBIN/LOYALL, KY     L&N CONSOLIDATED KENTUCKY
SELKIRK, NY           CR NORTHERN

CONSISTENT WITH THE NEEDS OF SERVICE, CSXT RESERVES THE RIGHT TO
RESTRICT THE LOCATIONS TRAINMEN ARE SELECTED FROM, AND TO LIMIT THE
NUMBER OF TRANSFERS WHICH WILL BE GRANTED. APPLICATIONS WILL BE
ACCEPTED FROM CSXT TRAIN SERVICE EMPLOYEE IN ACTIVE SERVICE (INCLUDING
FURLOUGHED STATUS) FROM ALL LOCATIONS AND FROM THE CLASS OF SERVICE
SPECIFIED.

APPLICANTS MUST BE APPLYING FOR A MOVE OUTSIDE OF THEIR CURRENT
SENIORITY DISTRICT.

APPLICANTS WILL BE SELECTED BY LOCATION IN SENIORITY ORDER.  HOWEVER,
THE CARRIER RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REJECT APPLICANTS IF THEY HAVE ANY
FORMAL DISCIPLINE ASSESSED IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS UNDER EITHER IDPAP OR
THE ABSENTEEISM POLICY.

TRAINMEN WHO ACCEPT THIS OFFER WILL FORFEIT HIS/HER CURRENT SENIORITY
AND WILL CONTINUE AT PRESENT RATE PROGRESSION LEVEL FOR PAY PURPOSES
AND VACATION ENTITLEMENTS ONLY ON THE NEW DISTRICT.

TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF PERMANENT TRANSFER:

1. RELINQUISH ALL OPERATING CRAFT SENIORITY, INCLUDING CONDUCTOR/
   TRAINMEN, ENGINEER/FIREMEN AND YARDMASTER.

2. ESTABLISH TRAINMAN'S SENIORITY AT THE NEW TERRITORY UPON THE FIRST
   DATE OF QUALIFYING ON THE NEW TERRITORY AND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
   ROSTER AND BEHIND ANY CURRENT TRAINEES.

3. RETAIN YEARS OF SERVICE FOR VACATION ENTITLEMENTS.

4. BE PAID TO QUALIFY ON THE NEW TERRITORY FOR UP TO 30 DAYS.

5. RECEIVE ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION PER THE FOLLOWING SCHEDULE;
     $1,000 UPON PROOF OF ARRIVING AT THE NEW LOCATION
     $2,000 UPON QUALIFYING ON THE NEW TERRITORY
     $4,000 12 MONTHS AFTER QUALIFYING
     $3,000 24 MONTHS AFTER QUALIFYING

6. APPLICANTS SELECTED FOR TRANSFER MUST REMAIN AT THE LOCATION THEY
   ARE CHOSEN FOR, SENIORITY PERMITTING, FOR TWO (2) YEARS.  DURING
THE
   TWO YEAR PERIOD, THE EXERCISING OF SENIORITY TO ANOTHER
CONSOLIDATED
   SENIORITY DISTRICT LOCATION IS ONLY PERMISSIBLE WHEN AN
APPLICANT'S
   SENIORITY DOES NOT PERMIT THEM TO REMAIN EMPLOYED AT THE INITIAL
   SUPPLY POINT.

7. REPORT TO THE NEW LOCATION WITHIN 10 DAYS OF NOTIFICATION.

8. IF A VOLUNTARY SEPARATION PROGRAM IS OFFERED IN YOUR NEW SENIORITY
   DISTRICT AT SOME FUTURE DATE AND YOU REQUEST SEPARATION (AND SUCH
   REQUEST IS ACCEPTED BY THE COMPANY), THE COMPANY MAY DEDUCT ALL
   TRANSFER PAYMENTS RECEIVED UNDER THIS AGREEMENT FROM SUCH FUTURE
   SEPARATION AGREEMENT.

9. BE PROVIDED MEAL ALLOWANCE (NOT TO EXCEED $12.00 PER DAY) AND
   COMPANY PROVIDED LODGING FOR THIRTY (30) DAYS.

10.BE ENTITLED TO CARRIER-PROVIDED LODGING FOR 30 DAYS.  LODGING AT
THE
   AWAY TERMINALS WILL BE PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE
   LABOR AGREEMENT.

NOTE: IN THE EVENT AN EMPLOYEE RECEIVES THE BENEFITS UNDER THIS NOTICE
AND DOES NOT REMAIN AT THE LOCATION TO WHICH HE TRANSFERRED BY HIS OWN
ELECTION FOR A PERIOD OF TWO (2) YEARS, HE WILL BE REQUIRED TO
REIMBURSE THE COMPANY FOR THE MONETARY TRANSFER ALLOWANCES PAID TO HIM.

Name: Lord SuckaLot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 September 2009

UPDATE on Labor Day PARTy at Water Street, Jacksonville, Florida

Hello fellas.  

We have been getting great responses on the Labor Day Party.  We
executives will be serving food to the rank and file, so dont be afraid
to load up those plates you beasts! 

Beverages will be provided including an open bar with yours truly Mike
Ward serving drinks and offering words of wisdom. 

There will also be a $1000 raffle drawing every 10 minutes and a grand
prize raffle will be given away at midnight as some lucky devil will
get me for the night!   

CSX Management- We Care About Our Employees.

Sincerely, 

- Lord Suckalot
  CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: Lord SuckaLot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 September 2009

Thank you for that typographical correction Mr. HoMo, I can tell you are
a team player. We like team players especially you big strong southern
bulls. 

Mr. Ward has taken notice of your leadership abilities I can assure you
he is impressed.  Might be a promotion in it for you! 

Perhaps you will be attending the Labor Day Blue Collar Turkey party on
Water Street?  I certainly do hope so. What will you be wearing?

Yes, I do have to have my facials - every day as a matter of fact. My
work necessitates such pampering due to the delicate nature of my
responsibilities. Daily facials keep me young and pretty which is a job
requirement here in the suites.  

Thanks for your support HoMo.  P.S. Do you twitter?
Sincerely,  

I remain, 
Lord SuckaLot, 
CSX Handmaiden to God

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 September 2009

Hey Suckalot:

The address is 500 Water St.(not Waters St.)Jacksonville, Fl 32202.
Of course after 30+ years you know that and you're just E-testing
every one...right?

Isn't it about time for your facial?

Name: Lord SuckaLot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 September 2009

An open letter to CSX union people:

Please come to CSX HQ on Waters street on LABOR DAY and receive a fresh
plucked turkey - compliments of the Executive Glee Club. 

We will be having roasted mountain oyster entrees for you handsome
southern blue collar devil boys.  

Bring a friend.  Drink some beer.  Have some fun. 

Yours in trust and family community,
I remain

Lord SuckaLot, CSX handmaiden to God. 

P.S. please dont pee on the grass.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 September 2009

It's September 3, 2009.....and CSX STILL SUCKS!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 September 2009

Hey HTL:

50+ year old woman with a wide body cooking eggs in her night gown
while scratching various parts of her body with a spatula? 

Sounds to me like nothing has changed in the last 40 years;)

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 September 2009

@Jason,
when I hired out we slept in the towns peoples homes, 3 beds to a
room,my engineer placed  the beds legs inside his boots so no one could
steal them, when called we would go to the kitchen and watch Maudie a
50+ year old woman with a wide body cook eggs in her night gown while
scratching  various places on her body with the spatula at 3AM.  so
when the younger employees would complain about where they had to stay
due to the neighborhood....... I would think back to Maudie's house
and then things weren't so bad

Name: Sam the Slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 August 2009

Thanks, Steve. The additional information you providded is good to know.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 August 2009

Dear Sam- 

As a follow up, as I said I would, I emailed the two lawyers on
exposure RT claims and both responded that they have each handled 
cancer and brain tumor type cases from long term exposure to diesel and
other carcinogen cases and would definitely look at taking these type
claims.

I hope that, with the above, all your inquiries have been answered.

Take care,

Steve

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 August 2009

Thanks, Sam.  I am still laughing.  All true.

Name: Sam the Slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 August 2009

Company paid sleeping quarters for train crews is a joke. A buddy of
mine on the Nazi Southern .....Jesus, you'd a thought they bought up
the inner city slums. "Hotel" right on main emergency route -
screaming ambulances every ten minutes, no room cleaning crews anywhere
in sight and cots so filthy you'd thought they used em to butcher pigs.
 There is bad, and then there 'shithole'.  These are worse than
shitholes. Nightmares. 

Now the BNSF is another story. The rooms are not so bad, i hear, but
they suck in other areas......they stick it to the entry level
non-union employees with hobo wages and incredibly long hours - they
must make about a nickel an hour on the average. BNSF management will
carp like rats if they have to pay a dime over poverty level wages, and
spend a million bucks explaining why it is necessary that they screw the
new hires.  BNSF has a sucking site, but not as up to date as the CSX
SUCKS site. The Web Master over there could use some pointers.  BNSF
has a lot of skeletons in the closet too, and a lot of dead stinking
bodies - their stories need to be heard. BNSF Management has its good
ol boys club just like the rest of the roads.....sucking goes uphill,
eating crap runs down hill. Neopotism is alive and well amongst the
native management boneheads.  SOS, different company. 

Like Tank says, there is sucking and then their is sucking - depends on
the road, the area of sucking, and the degree of sucking that goes on. 
Sucking is so prevalent on the class one roads, there is now a
DICTIONARY OF RAILROAD SUCK-ISMS. 

For example, 

SUCKLING: a newly hired manager or trainmaster. 
BUTT-SUCKER: trainmaster in training
SUCK-A-BOT: trainmaster with 1+ years experience sucking up to higher
management
SUCK-ASS: lower level managment, (e.g. Asst. TM, Asst. Term MGr, Asst.
Super, any number of Vice Presidents, basically anyone trying to
"climb the corporate ladder") having huge red lips, brown nose, and
yellowish tongue - constantly bows in the prone position and worships
totally inept superiors. 
SUCKHEAD - executive who, due to years of sucking, has the head of a
gigantic pussy cat, with lips that constantly make a grotesque  sucking
sound, as if trying to suck a golf ball through a garden hose. 
SUCK-A-ROO:  manager or trainmaster who runs around like a chicken
sucking everything in sight (shoes, hands, butts, crotches, door knobs,
et al) out of fear of not sucking enough. 
DICH-SUCKER: CSX Management
SUCK-IT-TO-DEATH: term used to describe number #1 job duty of hot
nubile young secretaries in the Executive Suite.
SUCK-O-METER: can be found at the exit security scanner, front door,
CSX Jacksonville Headquarters, Waters Street - all managment employees
must breath into the SUCK-O-METER at the end of every day in order to
measure whether or not they performed to the required level of sucking.
 Those who do not meet the required Stink-a-lizer standard, must return
to their stations for additonal ass kissing, butt licking, and dich
sucking prior to being given release status. Those who fail the
SUCK-O-METER test a second time are immediately terminated without
notice. 

This of course is only a partial list of Suckisms - please feel free to
add your own. Donate now.

Name: JASON
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 August 2009

I am posting this for the new bees who think they have it so tough on
the road, When i first hired in the 70,s we had bunk houses to take
rest at away from home terminals, Most were run by the YMCA ha ha what
a joke that was, A lot of them were set up like army barracks ya know a
bunch of guys sleeping in one big room with only a cloth curtain between
the bunks, The body noises were discusting to say the least, And the
wash rooms were also the same as a army boot camp barracks, 20 sinks in
a row and 20 toliets in a row and a the shower room was the same, 1 big
room with 20 shower heads so we could all see each other naked,, Yea
talk about no personal privacy on the railroad, Well thats how it was
ditto, And yes it sucked, I was the most happy person on the rr when
they closed those discusting filty rat holes and thats what they were
and some did not even have AC..... Yea man good ole railroading at its
best???? I should have slept in a box car, At least i would have had
some privacy.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 August 2009

Ok, good jokes laugh like hell. 

My granddaddy told me this one. 

City Slicker drove to the country to shoot ducks. He sits in a duck
blind and shoots a duck....but the duck falls onto the Farmer's land
next door. 

Farmer picks up the duck and says, "this here duck is mine, its on my
property".
City slicker:  "no it aint. I shot it. its mine you hillbilly THIEF"
Farmer: "possession is nine tenths of the law. I'm keepin the duck".

City Slicker: "I will have my lawyer sue, you thief!"
Farmer: "Ok, Ok. Wait a minute.  Calm down now. Let's settle this
like gentlemen. Tell you what,  I'll kick you in the nuts, and then
you kick me in the nuts.  Whoever screams the LEAST, gets the duck."
 
City Slicker lookes at his size 12 steel toed hunting boots, sizes up
the skinny little stupid farmer, and agrees to the contest. 

Farmer winds up his leg like a spring loaded baseball bat, then lets
loose and nails City Slicker in the nuts which cracked so loud it
sounded like a sledge hammer hittin a sack of walnuts.  
 
City slicker lets out a blood curdling scream that can be heard all the
way to Georgia, falls down squeelin like a pig with  blood squirting
from every pore in his body then passes out.  20 minutes later City
Slicker wakes up and stumbles to his feet and says: " ok you stupid
Farmer, now its MY turn". 

Farmer spits out a chaw of tobacco then reaches down and picks up the
duck and hands it to the City Slicker and says, "here, you can keep
the duck".

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 August 2009

Name: Sam the Slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 August 2009

Steve,

What would you classify as a "seriously injured" railroad employee?
(are you including diseases, psyche, toxic chemical exposure?)

Can you give specific examples of particular injuries or cases you
have
in mind?

How does the "loan to seriously injured employees" program work?
(what happens if the firm looses at trial?)

Has your firm had trial experience?  

Thanks. 

Sam
----------------------------

Dear Sam-

Thank you for your questions. I will address each of your questions
individually.

Question:What would you classify as a "seriously injured" railroad
employee?(are you including diseases, psyche, toxic chemical
exposure?)Can you give specific examples of particular injuries or
cases you havein mind?

Answer: Quite frankly all the discussions with the two lawyers as to
the types of injuries have all been involved around orthopedic injuries
in nature and have not involved exposure type situations. After I post
this, I will ask them. However, the types of injuries that have been
discussed, and that I know they have an expertise in, range from disk
herniations to the cervical and/or lumbar spine caused from whole body
vibration (WBV); knee & ankle wear and tear from uneven ballast or
ballast that should be smaller in size rather than larger; shoulder
repetitive trauma seen, for example, in switchmen; and carpal & ulnar
(elbow) tunnel syndrome. By the term "seriously injured", it is meant
that the person cannot return back to his craft.

Question: How does the "loan to seriously injured employees" program
work? (what happens if the firm looses at trial?.

Answer: In some states, it is permissible for an attorney to actually
advance monies to clients while the client's case is pending to pay
"necessaries". Necessaries can mean food, shelter, and other staples.
In these cases, the lawyers sit down with the client and review the
client's bills and there previous income. The advances, in the case of
Gordon & Elias, L.L.P. are mad interest free and without recourse. That
is, if the client does not receive money from the claim, they have no
obligation to pay it back. It is, in essence, considered like all the
other expenses put out in the prosecution of the client's case. There
is no obligation for a lawyer to do this and the hiring of a lawyer
should not be based upon this. It is simply, we believe an added
benefit of being a Gordon & Elias client. If the firm loses at trial,
there is no obligation to pay it back. It is, in the trues sense: "No
recovery....then no fees or expenses are paid".

Question: Has your firm had trial experience? 

Answer: Gordon & Elias has never tried a cumulative case as we have
NEVER taken one and, absent these two lawyers, would not begin now.
Each of these two lawyers have tried cumulative/repetitive trauma
claims in many states and, perhaps more importantly, have successfully
handled and settled MANY cumulative cases. For me personally, I have
only had to try one FELA case to  verdict. As with all personal injury
cases, the key to "winning" is working as hard as one can in the
"discovery" phase of the case to make the railroad (or whoever the
defendant is) believe that, if they go to trial, they will lose and
they will lose significantly. IF there is not a reasonable settlement
offer, then you should go to trial and make sure to show up sober
(Joke!). But, if you work up the case properly, the case should settle.
Remember this- "There's never a horse that's never been rode and
there's never been a man that's never been throwed". Translation= A
reasonable settlement offer should be accepted because you never know
what a jury will do for sure. Lawyers that say they have never lost a
case at trial, simply (1) have not tried a lot of cases or (2) are
lying. I have lost cases I should have won and won cases I should have
lost and all in between.

The issue with cumulative/trauma claims are that the railroads must
take the posture they are BS. Because, if they do not, they are afraid
the floodgates of litigation will overcome them. No question the
railroads have had "personal" knowledge that, for instance, the
engine vibration and the seats cause vibration spinal injuries. The
lawyers we have teamed up with have all they relevant documents to
prove this and they do not have to "re-invent" the wheel as they were
some of the few lawyers that invented the wheel to begin with (at least
as to repetitive claims.

I hope this email answers your questions.

Steve

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 August 2009

And the burnette answered, "Dunno, I lost count after a Sicilian."

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 August 2009

A two women a brunette and blonde were talking, 

The brunette told the blonde she had sex with a Brazilian,

the blonde shouted "You SLUT" "by the way how many is a brazilian?"

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 August 2009

Anybody know any good jokes?

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 August 2009

Dear All- 

I am proud to announce to you that the our firm has partnered with two
totally separate law firms for the sole purpose of handling what is
called repetitive or cumulative trauma [RT FELA Claims] FELA claims.
Historically, the firm of Gordon & Elias, L.L.P., has only allowed
itself to be hired for "one time" FELA traumatic events. This is true
for two reasons: (1) First, we have always thought that, if we cannot do
the best job possible for the injured worker, then we did not want to
allow ourselves to be hired by them. I can tell you the RT FELA claims,
even though they are asserted under FELA, are, in fact, very difficult
to develop and it is required, in our opinion, to have a level of
expertise that we did not have. Some lawyers simply take everything
that walks in the door but in the end that does not, we feel anyway,
benefit the client; and (2) the client gets what we feel is very
important and that is what we call the Gordon & Elias, L.L.P.
experience. Specifically, they get the cell phones of the lawyers that
are handling their claim and, where ethically permitted to do so,
Gordon & Elias advances them money on their case interest free. This is
a very large commitment but, we feel, is a necessary commitment so the
worker can pay their bills during the pendency of the claim. We have
always thought that the most seriously injured claimants want to make a
claim but, because of their economic responsibilities, cannot afford to
do it. 

The two lawyers are in separate areas of the United States and that
means their experience is each limited to specific railroads. The CSX
"expert" is David Lockard and we are exceedingly proud that he has
chosen us to work with. We will work with him in all cases where G&E is
hired and that will provide, in essence, two law firms on the client's
case for the same attorneys' fee as one firm. This, we feel is also a
benefit to the client for many obvious reasons.

There you have it and if someone has any further questions, please feel
free to call me directly at 1-800-773-6770. I hope no one ever needs our
services but, if you do, we would respectfully ask that you at least
give us a chance to explain why we feel we would be your best choice.

Sincerely,

Steve Gordon

Name: Jim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 August 2009

You guys are losers. CSX isn't a bad railroad. Every single company in
the world (including every single railroad) has its mistakes, flaws,
errors, accidents, etc. Why make fun of CSX? They're not bad. If you
want to talk about a bad railroad, talk about Canadian National(CN).
They have derailments almost weekly and have abandoned 3000 miles of
track since 1992. They are also the cause of at least one VIA Rail
accident which claimed 2 lives. CN is the one that sucks, not CSX.

Name: average joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 August 2009

rrj

i really dont think i am a racist brother i just know that the job
market that i applied in well that town has a collective african
amrican count of 3 in the entire population so yes that is why i said
the things i did 
no i got the job and was never called kinda felt like i was all dressed
up and no where to go you know so no im not racist until it comes to a
large corp. trying to get there affermitave action quetes off of my
small town

all you guys reading black and white know its an insult to us all if a
person gets a job because of their race

black people dont want to pull the race card just niggers
black people have skills and are just as ashamed as thier nigger
counterparts as we white people are of our trailer trash white people

all im say is if there was two white guys in bibs interviewing 400+ 
black men and 2 white men for 2 jobs who do you think they would pick
if you were a black man tryin to get a job in a white town

that is how i felt they i got the congratulations letter lol
well give you a job 
BULLSHIT 
so yes csx does suck 
from tennessee 
all the fuckin way to lakeland florida

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 August 2009

First off I never post on every section on this website. I'll make an
exception in this case. 

Average Joe

You say you're not racist. You used the "N" word right from the
start. You got hired then got furloughed. Join the club. Just about
everyone who got hired the past year some have been working longer
longer have been furloughed. It's the economy if you couldn't figure
that one out seeing you state you have a college degree. No, instead
you decided to rant and rave about if more blacks were at that hiring
session you wouldn't of got the job. 

I'm going to repeat something no one wants to read. When a lot of us
hired on the railroad we were furloughed at times. Some of us got
furloughed on a regular basis because of seasonal business. Some were
furloughed for years. It's not a new concept that the railroads have
devised like outsourcing and downsizing. It's a matter of waiting your
turn to get enough seniority till you can hold a regular job. Nothing
hidden in it, it's plain and simple. I guess it's a type of weeding
out those who'll stay and be dedicated and those who'll move on. 

All you did was join the pity party club. Those who feel how unfair it
is. Those who wish all those oldheads would retire. Staying on the
railroad is up to the individual either they can handle it or not it
doesn't make a difference to the railroad. Those that are furloughed
the statistics are only 10% will return. Maybe you belong to that club.

Name: average joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 August 2009

well we all sit back and take it in the ass 
i got a job with csx back in october and still no fuckin job
yeah two niggers interviewed me thank god there were any other brothers
there other than them or i wouldnt have even got the fuckin imaginary
job offer in the first place so here is what i say  fuck affirmative
action and fuck csx 
and all other companies and colleges who discriminate agianst white men
and women
dont act like you dont know
you have all seen it 
i know i come off as racist but i am really not all im sayin is that if
i was a black guy getting the job where i was supp0sed to go to work i
would have my fucking imaginary goddamn house paid for by now i guess
its my college that fuckin holds me back or the fact that my daddy
didnt work for the railroad i dont know
so there 
fuck it most of you all are well 
you knew someone so you got your job and fuck everybody else

Name: Sam the Slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 July 2009

The whole bailout plan is a crass, thinly veiled attempt by CSX to
snitch public funds to the tune of mega millions, and rid themselves of
the liability of running an unsafe railroad. 

Fraternity boys dont know how to make an honest dollar, so they just
spend their time conjugating syphlitic plans to steal from everyone
else. It's easier than working. 

An Masta is de gran pappy of all dem basta chillin, sucklin de public
titty.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 July 2009

Here's CSX's bailout plan...didn't work last year, so try, try
again!


Fla. has new plan to buy CSX line
 
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- In the latest twist to the controversial plan to
bring commuter rail to the Orlando area, state officials are seeking
$432 million from the federal government to buy 61.5 miles of rail line
from CSX Transportation, The Ledger reported. 
But the request is part of $8 billion being provided by the federal
government for high-speed rail that connects cities with few stops. 

The SunRail proposal is not a high-speed rail line and would have many
stops between DeLand in Volusia County and Poinciana in Osceola County,
near the Polk County line. 

The Florida Department of Transportation has also filed a separate
pre-application for $2.5 billion in federal funding for a 95-mile
high-speed rail line connecting Tampa and Orlando with a stop in
Lakeland. 

The application said the expected cost is $3.5 billion. 

The department is also requesting $30 million to begin work on a
high-speed passenger line between Orlando and Miami that would
ultimately cost at least $8 billion. 

Final word on the federal government's decision will come later this
year with more detailed applications coming from the state this fall. 

For the past two years, lawmakers have refused to sign off on the
SunRail deal, objecting to a CSX demand that the company be held
legally immune for damages involving accidents with passenger trains or
motorists, even if CSX negligence was responsible. 

Under the deal, CSX would continue to operate freight trains on the
line. 

State Sen. Paula Dockery, R-Lakeland, has led the opposition to the CSX
deal. She said Tuesday evening that she could not comment immediately
because she had not had a chance to read the department's application.


The "High Speed Intercity Passenger Rail" program is an $8 billion
stimulus plan. There is little mention of using that money for commuter
rail lines like SunRail. 

DOT Assistant Secretary Kevin Thibault said Tuesday the SunRail project
would fit into the federal government's scope, in part by connecting
the proposed SunRail project with the high-speed rail line in Orlando.


"The president's focus has been on both high-speed rail and
inner-city passenger rail," Thibault said. 

He said the final criteria for who will receive portions of the $8
billion stimulus plan have not been determined. 

Should the state receive federal funding to buy the line from CSX, that
would relieve state and local governments of the $432 million
obligation. 

Various states and communities nationwide are competing for $8 billion
from the federal government for high-speed rail projects. With much of
the planning already completed for the SunRail plan and the
Tampa-to-Orlando high-speed route, Florida may be in a better position
than other states. 

Thibault said that even with the dispute over CSX's legal liability
still unresolved, that should not affect the request for federal
funding. 

(The preceding article by Joe Follick was published July 14, 2009, by
The Ledger.) 
 
July 15, 2009

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 July 2009

Boy, your daddy must of pulled out early and squirted part of you down
your mamma's leg. You're definitely missing a lot. Keep posting us
old farts need a good laugh.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 July 2009

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 July 2009

Actually I believe the arb. was issued in 63 allowing a percentage of
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Folk's parted way in the spring of 1964. I have my termination letter
and the severence amount shown. The award was most likely in 1963. I
went back to work on July 20 1964 as a Trainman. I made no trips with a
Fireman or Apprentice Engineer from that date until I left the RR in
1970. We had none. Many RR continued to hire, I have a friend that was
hired on the frisco in 1975 as a fireman. The L&N just did not do that.
The state of indiana was a different duck, a Fireman on every locomotive
that moved, State Law. Later repealled of course.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 July 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 July 2009

...1964 and no fireman?  What were you?  A scab on FEC?
 I am very familiar with the FEC, the Southern and the fireman issue
arb 282.

It was the L&N. States of Ky and Tennessee, ran every train with no
Fireman. Yard jobs with No Fireman. Nashville Terminal ran all shift's
with no Fireman. The L&N and the BLE established a training program.
Qualified Apprentice Engineer's that could not hold the extra board
for Engineer's were allowed to work the yard, as fireman job's were
listed for them, by the company. I was a Fireman, this is not a story,
just the way it was.

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 July 2009

You haven't a clue. By the way, where did you get your GED.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 17 July 2009

"Would it be fair if their parents were laid off or fired after
working 25-30+ years for no reason except to replace them with a
younger worker would it be fair and justified?". 

i think it is more than fair why should the old head get to work and
the new guy gets fires that makes no sense and it is unfair because new
hires has families too your not the only one. also new hires work faster
and longer hours where old farts get tired and need a nap so do you
snore in the bunkhouse during shift when you suppose to be working i
see it all the time.  anybody over 50 should quit and get out of the
way befor they hurt themselves or others

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 July 2009

Upset

This site originally was used as a forum to discuss employee concerns.
Over the past year or so it's been more of a forum of newbie against
oldhead. To much unnecessary bitching about unimportant issues. The
newbies (1-3 years) still working should be thankful that they still
have a job. Regarding oldheads if newbies ask themselves one question
"Would it be fair if their parents were laid off or fired after
working 25-30+ years for no reason except to replace them with a
younger worker would it be fair and justified?". I see it all the time
with non-union workers. A good friend of mine was just let go for a
younger worker he worked for commission at a lumber company. Only
reason it happened that new hire will work for less of a commission.
We're lucky to be unionized it's based on seniority which is all we
have.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 July 2009

Hey UPSET, get in line there buddy.  You think most guys who work for
the railroad arent thankful that they have a decent paying job?  You
need to get a grip man.  People who post on this site aren't posting
because they are content with the fact they have a decent paying job. 
They are usually writing about the crap they have to put up with in
order to have this so called decent paying job.  Yes, you can give this
job up, but couldnt you at least try and advocate change to make things
better?  Damn I love having time off to try and make you people see the
light.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 July 2009

Ok, here is my story. You guys let me know what you think. I am a
conductor new hire trainee. I went to the REDI Center, passed with no
problem. The started my on the job training at my designated site. I
was into week 4 out of 12 when I was told that all training was to be
temporarily suspended. ( Unknown how long) I/We was told that I would
receive info in the mail about health insurance, other info regarding
status. Nothing ever came! I was told I would have insurance for three
months after training was suspended. I never, in those three months
received anything in the mail and called numerous times to check my
status and was tld that I was still active and had health insurance.
Curiosity got the best of me at about threee and a half months. So I
called and checked again.... insurance cancelled!!! Still no info
regarding termination of insurance/lay off. Nothing! So I called
corporate and spoke with someone who told me " Sorry, that was a
mistake on our end. I am turning your insurance back on for 4 months."
I wanted proof, so I asked for new cards to be sent. They came within a
week. About a month later, I had to take my kid to after hours care,
only to find out that my insurance was cancelled. I called first thing
the next day and spoke with the same person. They said " Sorry, that
was a computer error, your insurance ended two months ago!" I was
floored, telling them what they had previously old me and they said
there was nothing they could do. Also, I have yet to receive COBRA info
either. They asked me about it and I told them I had not received
anything. At this point I was working at a new job which provided
insurance that was no longer eligible for insurance because I missed
the open enrollment period because I thought I still had insurance. Now
because Cobra info was extemely delayed and finalization of insurance
matters was delayed and not communicated, the only way I can get
insurance is to pay 4 months of premiums with cobra(1600.00) or with my
current employer about 2000.00. All of this was because of lack of
communication from benefits dept. Can someone please help?

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 July 2009

Actually I believe the arb. was issued in 63 allowing a percentage of
firemen to be cut loose. I think it was 15 or 20 percent.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 July 2009

...1964 and no fireman?  What were you?  A scab on FEC?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 July 2009

Diesel Locomotive Fireman.
I just can not believe, any RR hired a Fireman after 1965. I do know
there were full crew law's in many states, that required a Fireman on
every locomotive that moved. I see Engineers on this site that started
as Fireman in the 1970's. What a career that was, and contuinues to
be, you talk about lucky, walking into the right door, these folks had
it tough driving to and from WORK, and watching a lot of it, from a
heated perch.
I spent from june of 1964 working as a Brakeman with no Fireman until I
left the RR in 1970. Really never missed the Fireman, Guess the Engineer
did, however he was happy with the extra pay, and I loved the better
seat on the left side, or best yet 2 seats, one to sit in and one to
prop my little feet in.

Name: David
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 July 2009

Anyone heard anything about CN buying the Nashville division by
September or October? Lets pray shall we.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 July 2009

CSX is a joke! I would be ashamed to be an trainmaster! You have no
ethics or morals! How do you look at yourself in the mirror? How do you
sleep at night? Remember this what comes around goes around!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 July 2009

Lot of good conversation on the human killer 24/7.
This topic should be top of mind for all RR'S

No easy fixes, million reasons why it will not work.

Think outside the box, how can you make it work?

I do not know,I ain't even close to that smart. However someone is!
Might be time to find them.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 July 2009

All 2338 articles on one big page.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 July 2009

Goob

We can't keep lowering my ratings. It took a long time to get to this
point. I liked those hard ass oldtimers when I was young even though
at
times they were difficult. I even missed them when they retired. They
taught me a lot about railroading. With some people the kinder gentler
routine doesn't work not in todays railroad when these new conductors
don't have anyone watching their backs. At least in my day we had
full
crews working your way up the ladder from head brakeman to flagman on
the caboose to conductor or roundhouse hostler to road fireman to
engineer. There always was someone looking out for you. I must admit
the older I get the more tolerant I become. It's the old adage "My
bark is worse than my bite". Lot of truth to that statement.XXXXXXXX
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look's like a 3 is kinda solid, I understood the hardass oldtimers,
just worked around them, and by that I mean they thought that I really
liked them, when is reality I really RESPECTED THEM. When the Conductor
called and wanted me to set out the head end to car number xxxxx on hi 5
north over the wy and shove to the plant and set 3. I was LOST!!!
Engineer was the only one that knew, so I really needed him. That is
where the RESPECT comes from.(Experience) Engineers have always done
that, however the real ass holes would just grin at you.

Ass holes stopped (BELLS) and started their own consist(very few) the
rest I started on the run with no problem. I ran for switches for most
and walked like a dead dog for a few. As a former Fireman I was
familiar with swapping end's. Good Engineer's came to the rear end
sat down and released the brake, and off we went. A few had to find the
reverser, oh well you know the drill.
You will adjust to retirement in about two good night's sleep. however
you will never adjust to the phone when it ring's you will have that
awful feeling and never want to answer a phone for the rest of your
life. I still do not like answering anything except my cell, simply
because I know when my cell rings it is a friend, and most likely they
want to ride or drink beer.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 July 2009

Goob

We can't keep lowering my ratings. It took a long time to get to this
point. I liked those hard ass oldtimers when I was young even though at
times they were difficult. I even missed them when they retired. They
taught me a lot about railroading. With some people the kinder gentler
routine doesn't work not in todays railroad when these new conductors
don't have anyone watching their backs. At least in my day we had full
crews working your way up the ladder from head brakeman to flagman on
the caboose to conductor or roundhouse hostler to road fireman to
engineer. There always was someone looking out for you. I must admit
the older I get the more tolerant I become. It's the old adage "My
bark is worse than my bite". Lot of truth to that statement.

Name: average joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 July 2009

okay guys 
i see alot of bitching about the unions but where i live unions are
shit there were two factorys here one union the other not. both
manufactured the same product while the union employees did it for an
average of two dollars less on the hour and had shittier benifits

That is the awesome part about a union in a right to work state unions
dont mean a hill of beans here just something to blow your money on.

im an electrician by trade and went to a tech school for two years to
get an associate of applied science in electrical technology 
got my license and all was well went to talk to the union and found out
it was shit they start you out at shitty pay and pretty much wont let
you test up to journeyman without 3 years working in the union paying
dues sounds like a fucking scam to me so i never joined for that fact
and the other bieng that if you join the union and there next job is on
the other side of the country and you dont want to leave your wife and
newborn for two years your blackballed and wont work for the union
again 

So in conclusion in a right to work state unions are nothing but a
waste of money and time

average joe

Name: scar
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 July 2009

When the HOS kicks in on July 16th, then CSX will call back all
furloughed T&E employees, the lamb shall lie with the lion, butterflies
and unicorns will dance and sing in mike ward's backyard, And Barrack
Obama will save the economy by borrowing more money to throw at the
problem only to miss the target again, and again. Just glad to be
living in interesting times. Remember these days...Cuz it ain't ever
gonna get better!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 July 2009

RRJ
You came clean!!! you had a hard time with the sorry part and got that
a little turned around, however you are thinking. 
You have now lowered your hard ass rating to a 3. If you keep this up
some new Conductor will actually look forward to working with you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 July 2009

so have they started calling people back anywhere else?

Name: mike D 
E-mail: md777@sbcglobal.net
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 July 2009

can you sue a local chairman and where do you start

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 July 2009

Goofy

I need to proof read better before hitting enter. I noticed the mistake
"smake" instead of "smack" after it was posted. I was hoping your
meds kicked in or your glasses were dirty.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 July 2009

Regardless of how hard you try..you can't fix stupid!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 July 2009

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 July 2009

Wow!!!!Goofy you rated me a four. I could imagine me on a golf course
your head on a golf tee I raise my golf club yell out "fore" and
smake your tiny little cranium down the fairway. I love happy endings.
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Hey Big man, you are the KING everytime your turn comes up. You call
the shot's with all of the new folks. Quiet when you get one that you
can not push around. Keep on golfing and (smake) them. You stand as a
4, and a well seasoned 4. I do love happy endings. When is your last
DAY?

Name: pat york
E-mail: patyork@csx.com
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 July 2009

TO Whom IT MAY CONCERn
o trainmaster PAT YORK is a snake 
he caused lots of strife on the dothan sub
just like any trainmaster....backstabber
please dont go to work at this company

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 July 2009

Wow!!!!Goofy you rated me a four. I could imagine me on a golf course
your head on a golf tee I raise my golf club yell out "fore" and
smake your tiny little cranium down the fairway. I love happy endings.
Don't you?

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 June 2009

Hello All-

I am seeking any information from anyone that knows:
(1) about the relationship or contract [if any] between CSX and
Goodyear Tire Co. to service/replace and/or repair its Goodyear tires
that are utilized, for instance, on backhoes including, but not limited
to, (a)is it a national agreement, i.e., are Goodyear tires used in all
the CSX operating states?; (b) who at CSX would be the person that
would negotiate for CSX with Goodyear on tire purchase and (c)service
"after the sale", if any, topics;

(2) Is there any studies that CSX did/does and/or that they rely upon
for working in the heat and protection of its MofW workers;

(3) What is the CSX policy (if there is one) on working conditions
(regarding heat exposure) it will allow its MofW workers to be exposed
to?

If anyone has this knowledge, I would prefer to use my email to receive
this information at sgordon@gordon-elias.com instead of a response to
this post and I would be extremely grateful to anyone that can shed
some light on these issues. You obviously do not need to give your name
to me. Thank you all for what you do.

Steve Gordon
http://www.Gordon-Elias.com

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 June 2009

Instead of getting your claims paid or improving working conditions,the
UTU is making you pay, or opt-out, for Disability Insurance,
$1500/month for less than $30 a month. $1500.00 a month is about 1/3 of
of a 100% yardman earns and isn't going to pay for much. I wonder what
the premium on an addition $1500/month is?

I'm am also curious if disability from job related stress is covered?

Mutual of Omaha, I say AFLAAAAAAAAAC!!!


Group disability now available to members
 
UTU delegates have voted overwhelmingly to amend the UTU Constitution
to permit voluntary member participation -- through an opt-out
provision -- in group disability insurance coverage, and any other
membership benefit opportunities that might arise. 

The delegates voted 356-58 in favor of amending Article XII of the UTU
Constitution, which now will read:

"The Board of Trustees shall also be empowered to make agreements with
vendors to provide members with disability insurance coverage or other
benefits through the International, at the members’ cost, on an opt-out
basis."

Of 524 delegates mailed ballots, 414 were returned, with 86 percent of
those voting favoring the change to the UTU Constitution. 

"Group disability insurance will be an essential financial backstop
for UTU members, many of whom have been denied coverage because of
pre-existing conditions resulting from their railroad employment,"
said UTU International President Mike Futhey. 

The UTU International Board of Directors put the amendment change to a
vote of delegates, noting that a review of such available policies had
earlier determined that a group disability policy available from Mutual
of Omaha could best serve UTU members. Mutual of Omaha is an A+ rated
insurance carrier with more than $4 billion in assets.

The search was made under the leadership of UTU General Chairperson
Paul Emert (GO 898), who, with assistance from his Assistant General
Chairperson Mark Cook and UTU General Secretary & Treasurer Kim
Thompson, contacted numerous top-rated insurance companies seeking
bids.

Under this Mutual of Omaha policy, every UTU member will be eligible
for guaranteed coverage during the open enrollment period, regardless
of existing health conditions. The policy will be made available within
90 days, Thompson said. 

As further details become available, they will be announced at
www.utu.org.

Especially attractive is that the coverage will allow members with a
UTUIA disability plan to keep that plan in addition to the Mutual of
Omaha plan without any reduction in plan benefits. 

Benefits will be for up to $1,500 monthly for up to 12 months per
disability. The coverage will be for accidents or sickness, 24/7, on or
off the job and will be tax free.

This is important to those seeking greater coverage than will be
offered by the Mutual of Omaha plan. 

UTUIA field supervisors supported the Mutual of Omaha plan and are
pledged to assist members with questions during the open enrollment
period. 

Because of the large UTU membership base and the UTU's collective
buying power, premiums will be especially low -- less than $30 per
month, through payroll deduction. 

A similar policy -- even if it could be purchased individually from an
insurance company -- would cost UTU members up to $100 monthly. 

Emert, writing in a column in UTU News in February, said: "UTU
officers have an obligation to do whatever is necessary to provide for
and protect the needs of the membership. This includes ensuring our
members have income to protect their families and property during times
of sickness and injury. This policy from Mutual of Omaha will do just
that."

Thompson said that "still other benefits to members, as they are
identified, now can be offered down the road as a result of this change
to Article 12."
 
June 29, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 June 2009

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 June 2009

OK!!! Sorry if you think I tried to hurt someones little feelings. I
just reread my post I think I gave good information. Damn right I'm a
hard ass anyone who survives the railroad this long ends up this way.
Seeing you didn't post your craft it suggests you don't work for the
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No man not at all, you are trying to help a 10 year employee, that is
not competant, or a poster. He wan't help for a regular time slip/
ticket.??? You are a little crusty, hard ass want to be. I would
classify you on a scale of 1-10 as a 4.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 June 2009

Log on to the CSX Gateway at the top of page click the Help Center then
click Payroll Contacts click Contact Payroll Dept. A form show's up
that should already have you name and ID#. Hit the scroll list for pay
shortages then explain. Once you complete it a case number will be
generated.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 June 2009

It's straight pay they are denying.  If there's a way to get it fixed
online I'm there.  Tell me how because trying to talk to those
boneheads in payroll is like talking to a cinderblock.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 June 2009

OK!!! Sorry if you think I tried to hurt someones little feelings. I
just reread my post I think I gave good information. Damn right I'm a
hard ass anyone who survives the railroad this long ends up this way.
Seeing you didn't post your craft it suggests you don't work for the
railroad. That makes it none of your business.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 June 2009

Anyone that has been working for 10 years know's how it works. Old RRJ
is once again jumping on a poser, as he always does. Old head's are
Hard Heads. Perfect Match

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 June 2009

Are you asking about actually work time tickets not getting paid or
claims? It's two different situations. I've used the CSX Gateway to
resolve pay shortages it's quite simple and in my few experiences it
did get resolved quicker online than trying to talk to payroll. Another
issue I find is a lot of engineers rely on the conductor to put off the
ticket without monitoring the input. A lot of shortages end up this
way. A little more information would help.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 June 2009

I'm about to snap.  This is one solid month of CSX denying my pay. 
What's to deny?  I went to work, did my job, and went to work to get
home.  Simple.  Yet they deny my pay.  How the hell do they get away
with this?  Who do I contact to get these bastards to pay me for the
job I do?  I don't know any other person in any other occupation that
constantly gets their paycheck denied.  I'm getting desperate.

Name: Link
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2009

If someone can find his address I will e-mail him about the outrage we
feel. It's a shame.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2009

NoMo, I believe the guy with the crushed hand and missing fingers has
settled now, but I am not sure.  I've been working the yard for a few
months now, so I haven't been upto Bergen for awhile.

I was off on the 19th, but the men were well aware of the Black tee
shirt day.  Everyone should send a personal letter, written in there
own words to Szasbo, the new head of the FRA.  What happened to that
man is just plain murder in my eyes.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2009

Closed shop, so you have to pay in order to be employed.  I pay to the
BLET for awhile now.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 June 2009

I have been preaching this for years to def ears. If you can not see,
and continue to pay,Your broke kid's will still love YOU.


Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2009

The local UTU here in Philly just let me know last week that my claims
I
have filed with them were never filed further up the chain, hence they
have expired. Now I doubt my appeal from my last investigation ever
made it.

Why am I not surprised?

Name: JET
E-mail: Jetcherokee@yahoo.com
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 June 2009

To whom this may concern:I worked for the railroad over forty(40 yrs.) I
worked as crew caller, fireman and enginer some times in engine service,
I tranfered to brakeman a few yrs. later and worked as yard conductor,
road brakeman,I started for the B&O Railroad in 1953 and I also worked
for the Tennessee Railroad back in 1944 as crew caller,o.k.last but
lease, The CSXhad the railroad when I Retired in Aug. 1993, let me tell
you this, when the CSX had taken over, yes it was a new ball game, The
CSX wasn"t a railroad co., they was more for Export and import, well
I"ll shut up now, may have said to much, all tho I don"t think so.
Thank you. Sincerely:Jet.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 June 2009

Hey Freddie:

This site gets stupid all the time. That's no excuse for staying away.
We need your eyes and ears in the Pilly/Baltimore area more than ever if
we are create change.

Tell Troll he's welcomed too...the more the merrier...this site sucks
because all the new hires have a beef and rightfully so. Keep up the
good work...don't let CSX get away with it!

You know CSX hates this site...what better way to get even than to tell
it like it is.

Let us know how your appeal goes, although I know what the outcome will
be...if I remember correctly, you're a member of the BLEt, not much
difference between the two.

By the way, how's the fellow that lost his hand doing, if you know?

How did "Black Friday" go up there? I asked the question early
Saturday and nobody answered...leads me to believe that nobody
participated...what do you know?

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 June 2009

Good to see ya NoMo,

I was giving this site a break, it was getting really stupid for
awhile.  Normal is just a setting on a dryer.  Philly is the same if
not a bit worse.  Furloughed guys are being called back, but some of
them have found more reliable jobs, so I don't know if they will be
back.

Name: benn there
E-mail: 124564
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 June 2009

You have the right to sue under the fair duty representation laws.  Your
union is obligated to handle your grievances to the best of their
"ability".  If you have record of giving the claims to your LC he or
she is obligated to handle.  I wish you luck.


 Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2009

The local UTU here in Philly just let me know last week that my claims
I
have filed with them were never filed further up the chain, hence they
have expired. Now I doubt my appeal from my last investigation ever
made it.

Why am I not surprised?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 June 2009

Hey Freddie:

Where you been? Hadn't heard from you in a while...things in Philly
must been back to normal, what ever that is!

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2009

The local UTU here in Philly just let me know last week that my claims I
have filed with them were never filed further up the chain, hence they
have expired. Now I doubt my appeal from my last investigation ever
made it.

Why am I not surprised?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 June 2009

This may also help Mr.Smith


http://www.trainlawblog.com/2009/02/federal-railroad-safety-act-1/frsas-sharp-teeth-starting-to-bite-railroads/


http://www.osha.gov/dep/oia/whistleblower/acts/frsa.html


http://railroadworkersunited.org/sites/rwu.prometheuslabor.com/files/CSX%20Harrassment%20FRA%20Report.pdf

Name: csmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 June 2009

does anyone have a phone number of an FRA AGENT in Georiga,  I had an
injury requiring surgery, and was told at my investigation during a
break, that if I only reported one injury, the plant manager would have
a talk with me when I got back to work, making me think I would keep my
job, but they fired me anyway. They only reported one injury and showed
the second injury as non reportable

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 June 2009

How are things looking down there in Nashville Rail Rat?  How many you
got furloughed down there and has anyone told you when they think you
will be back working?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 June 2009

I am so glad working in an environment now where someones hard work
ethic is appreciated.  I left this crap hole this past year.  CSX can
honestly go to hell. UTU and the BLE can follow them...:0)  I honestly
felt while I was there that I did a serious crime and I was assigned
community service, but just got paid for it.  But of course, I worked
in the Baltimore Terminal.  From what I here, I heard other
trainmasters around the system (even the REDI Center) threatens
employees who do something wrong that they will send them to Baltimore
if they do something else wrong.  LMAOOOO  HAVE A SAFE CSX DAY!!!

Name: Rail Rat
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 June 2009

Well, I did get it extended again. However, there still is an issue with
the union not upholding senority rights to get requalifed. 

Believe it or not, there are some good folks in JAX calling me trying
to get this resolved from labor relations. Yes, you CAN talk with them
and they will try and work with you. I would rather deal with them,
then with the UTU chairmen.Read the UTU/NTU website. It will tell you
everything you need to know about insurance extention. Document this,
and don't take it for granted what some local chairman from the union
tells you. ONE DAY = 4 months. Since we all would like to get
re-called, we do this at a minimum. But I know some of us needs this
insurance badly. 

 Yes, we are all bitter for being furloughed. But objectively I have
seen  good trainmasters who will tell you your doing a good job in
Huntington. And the bad ones... well.. I document everything. 

There are double standards when it comes to safety. You can get written
up for not usung a 'dated" brake stick in the yard. But when tieing
down a train on double mains, with old hopper coal cars, you must climb
and dismount on the main side depending where the brakes are located. We
told them we needed a brake stick for this pupose enroute, but they look
the other way.

PTI can't carry them, and the bulletin says we  are supposed to use a
de-rail. Go figure! 

But the crews were good at telling you when they were about to pass. As
big as that division was, they would listen and call you by name. There
are some good crews up there. 

Corporate culture would change for the better if there were no double
standards with rule application. The good  T/M's I have dealt with
used to work the ground - they know it! Just common sense.

Name: Just out of training
E-mail: BaddA$$MoFoMastah@csx.net
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 June 2009

Wow. all you guys got is bad spelling as a comback?

Hay guys why don't you stop worring about my spelling and worry about
those extra inches your womens been looking for all these years.

Summer time is coming and its time to have those BBQs  Why don't you
invite me over and we will get to know each other. While Im there I'll
give those extra inches to your womens she been missing all these
years.

When God made me he told me I had two choices. You can be a master at
word smithing or you can have a big male member.

I asked, "Well what will open up doors for success?"

He said, well having good grammar and spelling will certainly get you
thru the door. But if your grammar sucks and also your spelling, and
they try to shut the door, you can block it open with your big dick.


Oh buy the way, when I come over tell your wife to wear those tight
short shorts :)


Have a safe day

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2009

Alright trainmaster if that is a real post and your such a bad ass whats
your name.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 June 2009

MMM... Community College?  He must not have been smart enough to get
into a University.  His next stop just might be Tulsa Welding
School.....

Name: Just out of training
E-mail: BaddA$$MoFoMastah@csx.net
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 June 2009

Im a new trainmaster fresh out of training. Im 26 years old and got this
job at a job semminar at my Commuity College. If any of you give me any
shit you will help me make a name for myself. They taught me well and I
know exactly what to do. I have a very big spoon over my shoulder the
size of a spike puller. If you people hide or ignore me I will start
sturring this spoon till someone or ones rise to the top of the tird
pool. I will test you. If you don't like it I will fire your ass!

Oh ya,

If I see anyone wearing BLACK or if you are Black on June 19th YOU ARE
FIRED!

Have a safe day :)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 June 2009

I tell you what.  I am so glad I have left this place..:0)  CSX is
horrible.  Their management needs to realize "The way you treat your
people is the type of work ethic you will get in return"!!!  Then the
low life union (other wise known as the UTU) took close to $400.00 out
of my vacation paycheck this week!!!!  And what the hell have they done
for me in the last 6 months besides tell me what they are trained to say
(they can do that, they can do that, they can do that, they can do
that,etc...over and over again)??  HELL, WHAT THE F DID THEY DO FOR ME
MY WHOLE 4 year CAREER???  Both the BLET and UTU are in the companies
left hand pocket!!!  That place is the biggest joke.  So I can not wait
to see what they take out of my second vacation paycheck for
6/19/09-6/27/09 but I will definitely keep you up to date on just how
much our (more like yours now) unions are low lives (UTU & BLE).  I
have said it before and I will say it again (like my mother said), That
place is for prison inmates who just got out of prison and looking for a
career!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  For you old guys and mid-career guys (and
gals), I understand, your putting in your time to get your pention. 
Most importantly, you started when this place was a GREAT place to work
at.  But you new guys??  What the hell are you thinking about?? 
Honestly??  This place is TTTHHHEEEEE biggest joke.  And what more
proof do you need when this site was sued by CSX and went to court and
this site/owner WON???  HHHEEELLLOOOOOOO????????  When you work for a
place that has a web site that goes in depth about how bad it is, then
that web site gets sued by the company, AND THEN THE WEB SITE WINS??? 
What more proof do you need that you are working for/in a bad
environment??  But I had a guy who worked in my terminal who was SHOT
(YES, GUN, SHOT) twice and out of service.  I thought you had to pass a
background check to get into this job??  Criminal background check at
that.  Again, that place was a joke and I could go on and on and on...I
just want to say, I made some great friendships at CSX among my
so-called brothers and sisters (BLT & UTU, just not the the reps
BECAUSE I WAS SMART).  And I hope the best for all of you
non-management people.  For you management people, I work M-F, make
just as much as you do, and you know where you can go.  Oh, by the way,
I do not get called at 2:00a.m. for a derailment caused by another
idiotic, inner-city kid by my a manager (Superintendant in your case)
and I do not get called period when I leave the office..LMAOOOO
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  And I am working M-F, do not get called by an
ignorant caller who my 7 year old's IQ is higher than, etc. (Again, ON
AND ON AND ON AND ON)...LMAO When it comes to CSX callers and
management, lets face it, it doesn't take much!!!LMAOOOOOO  By all
means, I am not bragging (just to CSX LOW LIFE MANAGEMENT)..  Good luck
to you older guys.  This is one (and an on-going) hell of a transition
you must be going through from your earlier years. For you younger
guys, get out while you can.  Realize the schooling/$4800 was a waste
and move on to another career.  I am now working for the gov't and I
am going to the aviation school of maintenance.  I plan on being a
mechanic in the aviation industry and having my engineering degree
within two years (80 credits to go)....:0)  Good luck and god
bless..:0)

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 June 2009

RailRat:

Where i am, we have been told it takes 7 days to extend insurance, one
trip will not extend anything.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 June 2009

Rail rat you have them, Now try to collect. you will face more BS than
you have ever seen.

Keep up the good work and force it right back in their Arse.
Good post This man has a mission. Bottom line payback will be he
spend's years on making a correct point and they say Sorry! You get
zero, but keep on paying those dues!

Name: Rail Rat
E-mail: jsdow@netzero.net
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 June 2009

For you younger conductors who got furloughed. Here is advice from an
"old head" who worked under the railway labor act for 20 plus years,
but not with the railroad. You see, I am furloughed as well too. I
worked in the airlines in both management and the union, and NEVER had
a pay issue for this time period while operating under the "Railway
Labor Act." We had a copy of the contract in our pocket and on-line,
and we went by it. I took a early out retirement buyout with the
airline and decided to work at the railroad. 

However, when I come to CSX, it has been nothing but trouble with both
pay and senority issues. Botton line - your UTU union SUX, not just the
railroad. They enforce trainmen's rights based on secret addendums,and
public law board hearings that are not placed into the "agreements"
that are posted on the Gateway. I don't believe in working off the
furlough board every time the railroad calls you, because then they
would have no reason to re-call anybody. However, if you do work one
day, you get 5400 dollars worth of Cobra premiums that extends your
insurance for four additional months. So you could work only three
times a year to keep your insurance. 

Last year some of us who were furloughed then, took temporary transfers
to other locations. It was like a gold rush. They could not get enough
help, so of course they cut our qualifying time in half - in our new
territory. Upon returning home, were get furloughed again, and now the
company says we are not qualified to work at our home district. We were
furloughed out of senority order, and I have "hard copies" of jobs I
could have marked up on for three weeks. The company would not re-train
us, yet they were still training Cubs who will never return because they
are so far down the list. Of course that does not prevent them from
calling in the middle of the night to work. One night, took them up on
their offer since they woke me up again, I deadheaded to Chattanooga
from Nashville, they then "discovered" that I was not qualified to
work and then deadheaded me home. It took four weeks to fight the
company to get paid the day's pay and extend the insurance. I finally
got it. But guess what? The company still calls in the middle of the
night even though they know I am not qualified to work. 

MY ADVICE is to document every call you make and to whom. Now us
"transfers' who are senior cannot work off the furlough board to
extend our insurance, but junior trainmen can. Below is an exchange
with J. Willis the union chair in JAX. 

ATTN: J.L. Willis, I will cut and paste your comments and respond
accordingly 

Brother Dow,
I have spoke to Labor Relations regarding your qualification issue. At
this point they are not agreeable to paying you to re-qualify due to
your furlough status and you do not stand for work at Nashville.
However they advised that they would not have a problem with you
re-qualifying at your own expense.

Response:
They don’t have a problem qualifying me at my own expense, but they
also do not have a problem calling me for emergency service in the
middle of the night and waking me up. I may just take them up on the
offer since they keep calling me -  for the purpose of extending the
insurance anyways. 

Willis:
When you are recalled any necessary re-qualifying should be paid by the
Carrier.
In regards to junior employees working when you returned from temporary
transfer no complaint was made to this office at that time. Nor was any
complaint made to this office at that time about the Carrier refusing
to re-qualify you.

Response:
Oh yes there was. I contacted Mr. Barry Hogan who long since has
retired from the union and he advised me to file a “CE” claim with
payroll. Taking the unions advice, I did just that. And the company
told the RRB that because I filed a claim –even through they did not
pay it, I was in effect “still an employee”. So not only did I not get
paid by the company, I did not get paid by the Railroad Retirement
Board for the first month I was unemployed thanks to the “advice” of
the union. (This is well documented with labor relations and payroll.
The union has yet to help me get these CE claims processed.(The RRB
finally paid this period five months later through no help of the
union.)

Willis: 
It is my understanding that you voluntarily began qualifying on the PM
district after your return from your transfer. 

Response:
Yes, I did, and that is a separate issue, because at the time I could
still hold some positions there. In fact, there was much dialogue
between Nashville management, and yourself over this. They thought I
should have gotten paid (which we eventually did – all three of us
through direct interaction with labor relations and no help with the
union to get paid. As you recall, the decision was based on Art. 17 in
a Public Law Board Hearing that should have been an addendum to the
contract – so of course nobody knew the policy, not even management.
You sent me a copy of this which I have, remember?

Willis:
It is my position that you should have been re-qualified at Nashville
upon your return from transfer however I was not made aware of your
situation until your call and email sometime after the fact.

Response:
Well, you should have been. Again, Mr. Hogan retired and you inherited
his position. He should have conferred with you any pending issues that
have yet not been resolved with trainmen whom you represent. He knew
this fact last January.

Willis:
 Situations such as yours should be promptly reported to this office
for  immediate handling and not rely on local Carrier officers for an
interpretation of the contract.  I have no record of you attempting to
contact this office concerning your requalification  during the 3 weeks
that junior employees were working at Nashville. 

J R Willis
Gen. Chm.
UTU

Response:
Again, the union was in fact notified. You must remember, I document
EVERYTHING. This includes phone logs of numbers that I have contacted.
I keep copies of my phone records for occasions such as this. The only
reason why we did get paid for the Bruceton runs is because I kept text
messages from the railroad management saying that both the union and
trainmasters were contacted and that we would get paid. My phone
records indicate that Mr. Hogan’s office was contacted around the time
the “CE” claims” were filed- as well as the local chairs. 
This is just an example of the union not upholding seniority rights of
its members.  

Rail Rat

Of course now I am doing some legal research to see if the union is
libal for a "lack" of representation. I will keep you all posted.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 June 2009

Dear Safety Strike-

I agree with EVERYTHING you said.

-------------------
Dear APE-

I took the liberty of posting your most important post here:
http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/ask-attorney-steve-gordon-gordon-elias-law-firm/13276-railroad-workers-united-june-19th.html#post123340

Our firm will be joining you all.
-------------------

Dear Just one more law firm searching for business????

I would ask that you not generalize please.

Steve

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 June 2009

ame: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 June 2009

Goofy

There's a difference between someones opinion and those that C&P.
Whether I agree with a poster or not I respect their actual opinion.
Those that critique others post line by line are boring. I guess with
you it's the meds clouding up your thought process.=================
====================================================================
====================================================================

Are you a real person, from planet earth? What is the difference
between a person that C&P and their opinion. That make's no sense.
I am very aware of respect and what that entails. I can assure my
meds's are zero, thank you very much.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 June 2009

Dear Been Here too Long-

What did you say?

Steve

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 June 2009

Dear All- Thank you for the honest responses. I will tell you that we
work VERY hard and since there are only two lawyers in our "boutique"
law firm you've always got a named partner on your case (LOL!).
Seriously, I was hoping to get the responses I received. I think the
concept of unions, on paper, are a necessary thing. Lord knows the
company has your back alright...to stick a knife in it. So, Unions are
a necessary evil...sort of like lawyers! I must say whatever tune we
had to sing to get designated was the wrong one we chose. I swear I 
thought that (1) getting excellent results; (2) making sure the
railroader was only treated by Board Certified physicians; (3)
advancing money interest free [where ethically permitted to do so so
the client could pay their bills]; (4) giving the client the lawyer's
cell phone in case they NEED to talk to their lawyer; (5) never
settling more than one case ata time instead of "group case
settlements" and (6) busting the railroad's ass with a
'take-no-prisoner' mentality and approach would have been enough to
get our name in the hat. BUT I WAS WRONG!

So...here we are...not able to just call someone up when they are hurt
but having to wait till they call us. Please do not get me wrong, we
have good business. But I just needed to know that we had a fighting
chance in the minds' of railroaders without the designation.

Thanks again!

Name: Ed 
E-mail: edward.oliver@gmail.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 June 2009

Union Pacific is the same way.  Make a profit above all else.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 June 2009

Dear All-

I have a question and since this is about as anonymous a place to post
as one can get in the railroad industry, I thought I would ask here so
here goes. As you probably are aware, our firm
http//www.gordon-elias.com is not Union Designated. That is, we do FELA
work but we were unable to do whatever the heck was necessary to get
anointed by a Union Designation from the "higher-ups". You can see
and hear my explanation at
http://www.gordon-elias.com/CM/Custom/Unions.asp as to what happened.
Here is my question: If you were hurt, would you consider hiring a
"non-union designated" FELA law firm? If not, why not and if so, why
so?

The courtesy of a straight answer would be GREATLY appreciated and
thank you.

Steve Gordon

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 June 2009

Goofy

There's a difference between someones opinion and those that C&P.
Whether I agree with a poster or not I respect their actual opinion.
Those that critique others post line by line are boring. I guess with
you it's the meds clouding up your thought process.

Name: old rr guy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 June 2009

Haa.I gotta say. I do not beleive that most of the posters on here
actually work for the railroad.
On second thought some of the whining does sound vaguely familiar.
Example#1: "I can't believe they laid me off after only four
months."  C'Mon this guy can't be serious. I was laid off more than
I worked the first three years I was employed by Conrail. Then, as now
there was a huge recession on . No cars were being bought,steel mills
were closing up thus no steel was being made, etc, etc.Thousands of
cars and engines stored.Thousands laid off.
 Its a freight railroad. If the freight is down , theres no work. It is
not a mystery or someome playing a game with your life. No one put a gun
to your head to sign up. Get used to the lousy hours, and sporadic work,
you will be living it with no seniority.Otherwise, hang it up and do
something else.They are not going to treat you like anything other than
an hourly employee. You will not like some of the people you work with.
Sorry to rain on your parade. Its a business , not a jobs program.Feel
bad for the guys in Buffalo where I started. I am surprised they
didn't close down most of the Frontier operation a lot sooner, after
the 99 split with NS

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 June 2009

You have to love this one, Big E does not approve of (Copy and Paste)
So what the Fu-- does he do??????---Yep post on every single TOPIC
MG son give us a break.


Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

I like it. Bog this website down with cut and pasting. Maybe the
poster
is tired of the BS of certian people who like C&P critizing every
person's point of view. Keep up the good work.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Mostly Correcting you experiences to the real world. Remember you were
a Fireman on diesel. Backup to get your check.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 June 2009

Dear Sam, Z, Safety Strike and All Others That Are Interested-

I apologize for not responding sooner. I posted the Press Release and
just checked back just now [0018HRS---06/04/09]. 

Anyway, I would like to point out that it was not our firm that handled
any part of this case. I think that the underlying firm did an admirable
job to get a $5  million dollar JURY award. I have only had one in my
professional career and I can tell you they are very hard to get no
matter what the damages. So, in that sense, they are to be commended. 

I was not at the trial and I am only speaking from conjecture. However,
having said that, I would like to point out some basic trial "truths"
that go through a trial lawyer's wacked out brain.

It is hard enough to get a verdict that is sizeable, you kind of want
to do everything you can at the trial level to hold on to it when it is
appealed. The general consensus on the modus operandi of the railroads
are that, anytime you get a sizeable verdict, they will appeal. Hence,
protecting your trial record is an all important process ever-present
in the back of a trial lawyer's brain during the entire process
including, but certainly not limited to, (1)juror selection, (2)medical
causation issues [usually dealing with the famous Daubert case, and its
progeny, at the federal level], (3)the sufficiency of evidence to
support the individual elements of damages, (4)the sufficiency of
liability evidence and, (5)as in the CSX v. Hensley case, the wording
of the charge. 

Obviously, CSX prepared the "genuine and serious" instruction and the
Plaintiff's counsel argued against it. Sometimes, just to protect your
verdict, you will actually let the defendant's proposed instruction go
to the jury. This is when you truly believe you've got the jury and
there is almost no instruction that will persuade them not to go with
you. This is only a call that the trial lawyer can make. The general
rule is to try to submit a "plaintiff's favorable" charge and the
defense submits their "defendant's favorable" charge and the Court
makes up its mind after hearing argument of counsel [and maybe, if
you're lucky, actually reading the law]. 

The CSX lawyers read Ayers as "requiring" the extra instruction, I
could easily see how the Plaintiff's lawyer could have been worried
that its inclusion could have been an obstacle for the jury to award
big damages. It was a call he/she made and they won...at least till it
got to the Supreme Court level.

From reading the CSX v. Hensley case, Hensley had asbestosis from a
long term exposure from working on the railroad. A reading of the Ayers
opinion reveals:

“Norfolk presented the question whether a plaintiff who has asbestosis
but not cancer can recover damages for fear of cancer under the FELA
with-out proof of physical manifestations of the claimed emotional
distress. Our answer is yes, with an important reservation. We affirm
only the qualification of an asbestosis sufferer to seek compensation
for fear of cancer as an element of his asbestosis-related pain and
suffering damages. It is incumbent upon such a complainant, however, to
prove that his alleged fear is genuine and serious.” Norfolk v. Ayers,
at 157, 123 S.Ct. 1210

After reading the above, if you had been Hensley's counsel, would you
have vehemently argued for its exclusion? How about if you knew that,
if it was excluded, that you would risk a reversal on appeal....would
you still argue for its exclusion? .......Tough call isn't it?

I can not fault the trial lawyer in this decision. 

I do have one issue that I would like to raise. There are many articles
on the following point and they go either way. There is, I believe, a
consensus of opinion of good trial lawyers that your 'bigger' awards
are usually found with a general damage submission rather than specific
damage questions. I will be more specific so you will understand. In
some instances you can submit to the jury damage questions like this:
"'What sum of money, if paid now in cash, do you award for medical
expenses, loss of wages, loss of earning capacity, physical pain and
suffering, mental anguish, physical impairment, physical
disfigurement'  Answer in Dollars & Cents $__________" 

OR, one could submit it this way: "'What sum of money, if paid now in
cash, do you award for medical expenses $_________, loss of wages and/or
loss of earning capacity $_____________, physical pain and suffering
$__________, mental anguish $___________, physical impairment
$__________, physical disfigurement $________' Answer in Dollars &
Cents."  The latter way permits the trial court, or the appellate
court, to take away one element with out disturbing the remainder of
the award. The Hensley case was a general/broad submission and,
therefore, there was no way for the Supreme Court to determine what
part of the $5 million was attributed to the "fear of cancer" award.
Once, the Supreme Court determined the CSX proffered instruction should
have been given, the ENTIRE case had to be reversed and remanded. This
could have been different. 

Once again, the general belief among trial lawyers that are worth a
damn is that bigger awards are found in the one damge line approach
BUT......when CSX was denied an instruction that arguably should have
been given, don't you think the trial lawyer might have "re-visited"
the one line submission before it went to the jury?

Well, I  do not know if any of the above helps understand this case a
little better. 

I think it was Sam that said something like "Whats the bottom line?"
Here it is: A FELA claimant that seeks 'fear of cancer' monetary
damages needs to put on evidence that his/her fear is 'genuine and
serious' AND submit an 'instruction' worded as such.

I do not believe you have to have psychological/psychiatric testimony
but I know, if I had a client where this was an issue, I would damn
sure make sure the client visited with a a psyche doctor so they could
testify how genuine and serious the fear is.

Ya'll take care out there and be safe.

Steve
http://www.gordon-elias.com

ps-the Hensley opinion can be downloaded at:

http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/legal-news-announcements/12920-csx-v-thursten-hensley-signiificant-u-s-sup-ct-court-fela-decision.html

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

I like it. Bog this website down with cut and pasting. Maybe the poster
is tired of the BS of certian people who like C&P critizing every
person's point of view. Keep up the good work.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Get the point yet.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

(Norfolk Southern issued the following on June 1, 2009.)

NORFOLK, Va. — On the 10th anniversary of Norfolk Southern
Corporation's acquisition of nearly 60 percent of Conrail, CEO Wick
Moorman today thanked customers, suppliers, stockholders, communities,
and employees for their hard work and support.

"On Day One -- June 1, 1999 -- we set out to build the best freight
transportation system in the world," Moorman said. "We have made
steady progress toward that goal, and together we have enjoyed a decade
of growth and financial success. All of us at Norfolk Southern are
grateful to everyone who has played a part in this success, and we look
forward to what the next decade brings."

Since Day One, when Norfolk Southern added 7,200 miles of Conrail
routes and 10,000 former Conrail employees to its system, the railroad
has moved 3.5 trillion gross ton-miles of freight. A single train of
every carload NS hauled in the last decade could stretch to the moon
and back twice -- and then some.

In order to meet increased demand and better serve customers, NS over
that period has invested nearly $10 billion in capital expenditures to
improve track, equipment, facilities, and technology. In new rail
alone, NS installed the equivalent of a brand new transcontinental
railroad.

NS' industrial development activities since Day One resulted in the
location or expansion of 1,115 industries along the railroad's lines,
representing customer investments of $23.6 billion and creating nearly
55,000 customer jobs in the territory served by the railroad.

The Conrail transaction returned competitive rail service to the
Northeast for the first time in 20 years. NS sharpened its focus on
customer service markedly following the transaction -- especially
through its Thoroughbred Operating Plan -- and today is the industry's
service benchmark.

Most important, it all has been done safely. NS employees have earned
the E.H. Harriman Memorial Gold Medal as the safest railroad workers in
the U.S. for each of the last 20 years.

"The numbers tell an impressive story, but as satisfying as it is to
see how far we've come, it's more exciting to look ahead," Moorman
said. "Our progress has given us the strength to weather the current
economic storm. This recession will pass, and the long-term future for
rail as the safe, clean, and fuel-efficient transportation alternative
has never been brighter. NS is ready to take advantage of the
opportunities that a recovering economy will bring. Ten years from now,
along with our partners, we will look back again with amazement at how
far we've come together."

Norfolk Southern Corporation (NYSE: NSC) is a leading North American
transportation provider. Its Norfolk Southern Railway subsidiary
operates approximately 21,000 route miles in 22 states and the District
of Columbia, serves every major container port in the eastern United
States, and provides efficient connections to other rail carriers.
Norfolk Southern operates the most extensive intermodal network in the
East and is a major transporter of coal and industrial products.


Tuesday, June 02, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Railroad accidents have terrible consequences, safety advocates say 
(The following story by Nicole Printz appeared on the Abilene Recorder
Chronicle website on June 2, 2009. T.A. LaCombe is a member of BLET
Division 261 in Herington, Kan.)

ABILENE, Texas — When people think of train collisions, they generally
think of train crossings.

Thomas LaCombe, Union Pacific train engineer and a presenter for
Operation Lifesaver, is raising awareness about trespassing incidents.
Operation Lifesaver had a car crushed in a train collision and displays
at Flour Power Family Fun Fest this past weekend. LaCombe stressed the
importance of railroad safety in Abilene.

“There are two major railroad companies that run though Abilene,” he
said.

The multiple tracks through Abilene increase the risk for train
collisions, either at crossings or trespassing incidents.

“Railroads are private property,” he said. “Almost everyone crosses
railways at some point. There were 2,000 people killed on the rail
right of ways last year.”

In Kansas last year nine people were injured and four people killed on
railroad property, according to the Federal Railroad Association.

LaCombe explained that many people do not think that fishing on a
railroad bridge or walking on tracks is trespassing.

The only legal place to cross a railroad track is at designated public
crossings.
Children are often fascinated with trains and will cross underneath
stopped trains.

LaCombe was starting a train and noticed movement in the rearview
mirrors. There were three children playing underneath the cars. If he
hadn’t noticed them, the children probably would have been severely
injured or killed.

“Don’t set things on the track. A railroad spike set on the track can
derail a train,” LaCombe said. “If the train is carrying federal
property and is derailed it becomes a federal incident.” 

Coins placed on the tracks can be flung with great speed when run over,
potentially injuring someone.

Drivers make poor decisions that lead to accidents as well.

“The railroads have their own police,” he explained. “If I see someone
go around the gates I am required to report that.”

Going around crossing gates is illegal, and you can be ticketed even if
the gates have been down for several days. If gates are down for no
apparent reason, look on the crossbuck or near the crossing for the
toll free number posted near every crossing.

Trains can crush cars as easily as a car can crush a pop can.

“If your car dies on the tracks, walk toward the direction the train is
coming from.” LaCombe said. “If you walk the other way, the train could
knock your car into you.”

“There are no accidents with trains,” executive director Darlene
Osterhaus said. “The train doesn’t come off the tracks and hunt you
down.”

LaCombe is available for free presentations for children and adults
interested in learning more about train safety. Visit www.oli.org or
call 1-800-537-6224 to schedule a presentation.


Tuesday, June 02, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 June 2009

Heads up new employees!!!
Unless you have at least 7-10 years of service, time to dust off the
old resumes... CSX plans to continue running on skeleton crews thru the
July hours of service law change, and if they can still move their
trains... yup, you guessed it... MORE FURLOUGHS!!!

Get out now while you can...

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Mr. Gordon, could you please respond to Safety STike's request about
providing more info on the Hensley case?  


Name: SAFETY STRIKE 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Nice WSJ article, Z, but we need to hear MUCH more in the way of
specifics from the law firm that handled the case.   

We need to know more of the facts of Mr. Hensley's case. He had brain
cancer (?) and lung cancer (asbestosis) from exposure to toxic
chemicals....what chemicals? How much exposure? What was the causative
connection? . He had cancer(?),  or he had symptoms of it (?), or he
had a fear of the symptoms (?), or he had a fear of pending death from
cancer, or.....something else was pleaded?  It makes a difference. It
is odd that the Court would not consider that Hensley had no fear of
cancer (or a fear of dying for that matter) if he had no present
ongoing stage one cancer. 

The Ayers standard for fear of cancer was 'proof of their
apprehension of developing lung cancer in the future', which
indicated
that one did not need to actually have cancer, but had symptoms that
could lead to cancer (plural plaques, cysts, high white cell blood
count) but not actual cancer itself.  Is the court saying something
different?  Is there now a higher standard based on something else? If
so, what is that something else? What is the legal standard now for
fear of cancer under FELA? Higher than merely apprehension, or
apprehensions with associated predictive medical conditions.  What is
the standard now for 'genuine and serious'?.  How high is  the
standard?. What would be threshhold examples? Is there a balancing
test? What did Ayers say that the Court relied upon - or did not rely
upon? 

Fear of cancer is fairly common in asbestos cases, and the standard is
not "high".....seems like the FELA plaintiffs lawyers may have left
the door open for a company friendly conservative court to come in and
restate the rule of law.  Why is FELA different from any other
non-FELA
fear of cancer case where brain cancer and asbestos related cancer are
at issue?   

CSX argued that the instructions given to the jury were too friendly
to
Mr. Hensley - the jurors were ot instructed that  Hensley
needed to demonstrate that his fear of cancer was genuine and serious.
How so?   Is it simply a matter of issuing a jury instruction, or does
plaintiff have to add additional facts to prove his case?

"Although plaintiffs can seek fear-of-cancer damages in some...cases,
they must satisfy a high standard in order to obtain them,". Ok,
great.  Ok, so again, what exactly meets the Court's definition of a
"high standard" when seeking fear of cancer damages.  

Did Hensley win on other aspects of his case?  What were they? Did he
prove that his cancers (?) were caused to his exposure to toxic
chemicals and to asbestos?  

Anything else this law firm can SPECIFICALLY tell us about the case
would be EXTREMELY beneficial to every single railraod worker employed
by CSX as well as the other carriers.

We may be railroard workers, but we read these cases, and we like to
know exactly what is going on.  

Thanks.

Name: z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 June 2009

Court rules for CSX in worker-injury case 
WASHINGTON -- The U.S. Supreme Court Monday (June 1) threw out a $5
million jury verdict awarded to a former CSX Corp. railroad worker who
alleged that he had been negligently exposed to toxic chemicals and
asbestos on the job, which caused him to develop brain injuries and
asbestosis, a lung disease. 
Among other things, Tennessee railroad worker Thurston Hensley sought
monetary damages for a fear of developing cancer in the future, The
Wall Street Journal reported. 

CSX argued that the instructions given to the jury were too friendly to
Mr. Hensley. The company wanted jurors to be instructed that Mr. Hensley
needed to demonstrate that his fear of cancer was genuine and serious. 

The Supreme Court, in an unsigned opinion, ruled 7-2 that it was a
"clear error" for the trial judge not to give the jury instructions
CSX requested. 

"Although plaintiffs can seek fear-of-cancer damages in some...cases,
they must satisfy a high standard in order to obtain them," the
court's majority said. 

In dissent, Justice John Paul Stevens said, "As a practical matter, it
is hard to believe the jury would have awarded any damages for
Hensley's fear of cancer if it did not believe that fear to be genuine
and serious." 

The Supreme Court decided the case without requesting a full legal
briefing or hearing oral arguments, a sign that a majority of the
justices believed the lower-court ruling was clearly wrong. 

The high court sent the case back for new court proceedings. 

CSX didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. 

(The preceding article by Brent Kendall was published June 1, 2009, by
The Wall Street Journal.)

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2009

Mr. Gordon, 
The Supreme Court opinion is most interesting, but could you possibly
put it into the context of the King's English so that the majority of
non-lawyers on this site can understand what the case means to them? Is
the ruling applicable to asbestos disease cases only, or also to toxic
chemicals, fumes, and exhaust as well.   Is it just lung cancer, or
does the fear of cancer extend to all types of cancer. Does a worker
have to prove that he or she has stage one carcinoma, or is it enough
to simply know that you have had exposure to a target group of
carcinogenic causing chemicals to be at risk of cancer, thus have a
"genuine and serious" fear of cancer?   

Much appreciated.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 June 2009

***PRESS RELEASE***


Significant Decision Affecting 
Rights of Injured FELA Workers


On Monday, June 1st, the United States Supreme Court decided a case
styled CSX Transportation, Inc. v Thurston Hensley 2009 WL 1506680
(U.S. June 1, 2009)).  This case demonstrated the conservativeness of
the Supreme Court, and their determination to exclude injured workers
from recovering.

The Supreme Court relied heavily upon a previously decided case, i.e.,
Norfolk & Western R. Co. v Ayers (538 U.S. 135). Ayers held that a
plaintiff may recover for fear of cancer if he proves his fear is
‘genuine and serious’.  Once the plaintiff has provided proof of their
apprehension of developing lung cancer in the future, the law will
provide compensation for those damages.

At issue in the Hensley case was whether it was proper for the trial
court to deny CSX its requested juror instructions.  CSX requested the
following instruction to be part of the charge: 

Charge One stated the basic requirements to obtain damages under Ayers.
Plaintiff is also alleging that he suffers from a compensable fear of
cancer. In order to recover, Plaintiff must demonstrate that the fear
is genuine and serious.”  

Hensley first sued CSX in Tennessee state court. At the close of the
trial, CSX requested an instruction that Hensley needed to have shown
his fear of getting cancer was genuine and serious. The trial court
refused to allow the instruction. The Tennessee Court of Appeals
affirmed, stating that they saw no purpose in instructing the jurors.
If the jurors did not believe the plaintiff was genuine and serious in
his fears, then little to no damages would be awarded to him.  

The Hensley court held the ruling of the Tennessee Court of Appeals and
the refusal of the trial court to give the juror instructions were clear
error.  In Ayers, the Court expressly recognized that several “verdict
control devices” were available to the trial court when a FELA
plaintiff sought fear-of-cancer damages.  One of the verdict control
devices included that on a defendant's request, each plaintiff must
prove any alleged fear to be genuine and serious.  In Hensley, the
trial court erred when it refused CSX’s request for a juror instruction
on the genuine-and-serious standard of Hensley’s fear of cancer claim.

The Hensley Court held that instructing the jury on fear of cancer
damages would have been worthwhile.  Given the fact that the cancer
claim could have the potential to “evoke raw emotions” among the jurors
made the need for a juror instruction on the legal standard even more
vital. The Hensley Court somehow felt the need to bring up the numerous
asbestos cases pending as a way of justifying the estimation of damages
for plaintiffs. Their choice to bring up the cases was irrelevant and
unnecessary. 

An interesting aspect to this case is found in the dissent. Justice
Stevens, who had voted to affirm the Supreme Court decision in Ayers,
displayed his contempt for the decision in this case.  He stated that
the new ruling authorized a fresh review of the jury’s damages award.
Yet, as a matter of practicality, he noted that the jury would only
award the amount of damages they felt was necessary.  Justice Stevens
further pointed out that CSX did not attack the $5 million dollar award
as excessive. In that light, he further demonstrated that CSX did not
request the trial court to ask the jury to award damages for each
element of recovery. Had CSX done this, and the trial court had
complied, then CSX’s challenge would only have gone to the amount
awarded to the ‘fear of cancer’ amount and the entire verdict would not
have had to have been thrown out. 

The Hensley Court’s decision to reverse and remand the case rests on
the language in footnote 19 of the Ayers opinion. The footnote states:

“In their prediction that adhering to the line drawn in Gottshall and
Metro-North will, in this setting, bankrupt defendants, the dissents
largely disregard, inter alia, the verdict control devices available to
the trial court. These include, on a defendant's request, a charge that
each plaintiff must prove any alleged fear to be genuine and serious,
review of the evidence on damages for sufficiency, and particularized
verdict forms.” Id., at 159, n. 19 

The Hensley Court broadly interpreted the footnote, finding that
anytime a defendant demanded an instruction, it must be given when
involving fear of cancer. 

In contrast, Justice Stevens held that on the footnote’s face it merely
points out that a defendant has the right to request a
genuine-and-serious instruction, and if requested, the instruction is
available to the trial court. It does not suggest that all instructions
should be granted. 

The Hensley majority opinion deviated from Ayers stare decisis. The
Court’s opinion, more than anything, will generate confusion regarding
the Ayers case. The Ayers case had already suffered multiple
interpretations by the courts. Given the opportunity to provide clarity
to the holding of Ayers, the Hensley Court failed to meet this
objective. In their rush to reverse the Tennessee Court of Appeals,
they failed to correctly interpret Ayers and eliminate the confusion
that plagued many courts.

The Hensley opinion leaves the reader wondering why the Supreme Court
failed to recognize the rights of workers who labor across America.
This conservative approach greatly diminishes a worker’s ability to
recover damages.

###

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injury and wrongful death. They are a boutique law firm with a
nationwide practice focusing on FELA (http://www.gordon-elias.com),
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& Elias, L.L.P., was formed in 2000. Attorneys Steve Gordon and R. Todd
Elias bring over 39 years of combined experience to the representation
of their clients. The firm has the experience and resources to pursue
recovery from large corporate defendants and/or their insurers.

###

Name: SAm
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2009

Knock Knock
"Who's there?"
"RRJ"
"RRJ Who?"
"Ronald Raygun the Jerkoff, that's who".

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2009

Sam the Foamer

This is my last response to your stupidity.

There that's it. Good-bye

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 June 2009

UTU 55k MEMBERS pay a $1.00 per month. Looks like $55,000.00 a Month

Soon we are talking real MONEY.
Cut the cord, cut the deduction, starve the worthless blood suckers,
get even, get MAD.

OR JUST PAY UP SUCKER

Name: SAm
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2009

RRJ says were all going to hell in a hand basket cause nothing is going
to change.  Everybody be sure to line up for your ticket.

Name: lemonhead
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Contractor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 June 2009

dude don't do that if you need to talk call me i'am for real
850-232-6347 terrance

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2009

Then change the unions. It's not easy. The unions represent more than
CSX. The western railroads have more voting power than the east. It's
always been that way. Next year for the first time in our history every
member of the BLE(T) will be able to vote on our leadership. I've been
a member of the BLE for 29 years I've never seen one of our presidents
show up at a division meeting or even a townhall meeting. Under the
bylaws and constituation you can't even contact them without going
through proper channels which is your GCA. Been there before. It's not
that us "whiskers" don't care anymore in fact we're more vocal than
those who have years left to work. The fact is we're the minority
today. It's your turn to see if you can make change. The unions went
downhill in the '80s after Raygun fired the Air Traffic Controllers.
Unfortunately just like them we have to much goverment interferance not
having the ability to strike on a moments notice. Most of you probably
don't even go to union meeting.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 June 2009

Looks like Sam got Chicken Pecker's so upset he done went and got his
chicken panties all tied up in a knot.   

Its a cryin shame that retirees have nothing better to do than be a
cynical Walmart Greeter on Sucks. Life must be shitty for these old
farts. I pity them.  

Sam has a point, and Z proves it - the old grey beards have a corn cob
stuck so far up their collective anal retentive asses you'd have to go
all the way to China to pull it out. 

Point is one union or many unions, the beef it the same. Incompetent
leadership. We need exceptional gifted leaders, not corrupt Union 
politicians.   Enough aleady. 

Weld that to your ear buddy.

Name: Fight the Power
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 June 2009

I THOUGHT I TOLD YOU TO SHUT UP.

NOW GET YOUR ASS OVER HERE AND SHINE MY SHOES, BOY. 

BEFORE I KICK YOUR POOR WHITE TRASH ASS. 

FIGHT THE POWER

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 June 2009

So now we don't need a new one as you have preached, just find the
correct person to run "our union". Which is it, keep what we have or
a new one. . He argues with me for over a month, that all unions need
to be decertified and start a new one, now the old one is OK, just find
the rite leader. You just like to argue and disagree.

Your also wrong abut the ones with whiskers, which you also claim to
have.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 June 2009

There are honest people out here who would run an honest union.

Like any organization, there are good people and there are bad apples. 
 It all starts at the top, and trickles down. 

Many excellent organizations have grown from exceptional leadership. 
We just need to find the right person to run ours, and that is not an
impossible task.  

The guys with long whiskers are numb to the graft and corruption,
granted. But constantly spreading negativism without hope of
improvement is no answer either. I think people want to hear messages
of hope - not dispair. Which means we need to be talking about
solutions to problems, not just the problems themeselves.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 June 2009

I want to start saying that I feel for all those cutoff, when I first
hired I was on here preaching one union, we need to form 1 union, and
as time progressed, I realized just what all the whiskers were saying
were true-aint gonna happen. While there are alot of good men out here,
greed prevails and it always will and csx as well as the unions know
this. This place is just a place to vent and talk a good game,
solidarity we dont have. To all the guys cut off, find other work and
learn from this, for all those working, watch ur back and you brothers,
I hear snakes are bad right now!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 May 2009

OK Boss, Whatever you say Mr Benny!!!!

Name: Fight The Power
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A
Posted: 31 May 2009

ONLY A CORPORATE WEASEL INVESTS IN CSX STOCK.

IS THERE A WEASEL IN YOUR WALLET? 

T&E ARE OUR BITCHES. 

SO ARE YOU IDIOTS WHO BUY OUR STOCK.   WE OWN YOU.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 May 2009

NoMo

I agree. I basically stated let the stock artificially inflate and then
get the hell out of it. I sold a huge portion of CSX when it hit 70.20
then when it went down to 65.00. What I reinvested in under the limited
investment options in the 401K crashed. Sure in the long run I would be
better to hold on to the other investments. I don't have a long run
anymore. I'm going to be like those short term investors and run with
it and know when to bail out. I don't have any faith or listen to Jim
Kramer or any of the so-called speculative Guru's of the market. The
USB article was amusing they told the truth of CSX always being the
underdog of the railroads on stock price because of mismanagement. I
bought back into CSX heavily earlier this year. I'll bail when the
time is right.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 May 2009

Hey Loco 30+:

No doubt CSX stock got a boost from the UBS upgrade. UBS must know
something the other analyst don't...the consensus is still HOLD.

I think UBS probably holds a substantial position of CSX stock and
makes a market in it. UBS just wanted to cut their stake in CSX and
what better way to increase your portfolio value, sell off some of your
position, than to issue a STRONG BUY recommendation.

I do think CSX stock will shadow the market and gain with the
inevitable come back. You've already seen the market regain a large
part of what it lost. When the market started it decline it was over
bought. CSX stock never was worth $70/share. When it hit $70, anyone
who owned it should have sold it. Remember Mad Money with Jim Cramer,
he was touting the stock a buy when it was already over $60+/share.

I think you bought in at a good price. At $32/share I think CSX is
fairly valued, any thing over $42/share is probably too rich for my
liking.

You're right about Ward...he's at the top of the food change and
hungry. Greed has been know to lead to creative accounting practices
which can lead to overpriced stock.

We have all become to dependent on other peoples expert opinions, the
last 9 months have taught us that.

CSX will keep the positive spin coming out of the PR Dept., fudging
their operating results, ignoring safety, intimidating, harassing and
working the crews to exhaustion. The worst thing that can happen
is the recent fatality gets scrutinized.

Business as usual!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 May 2009

Name: SmokinJoe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 May 2009

You all have to realize- the main qualification for advancement in CSX
is if Tony Ingram likes the feel of your lips on his ass!  Give me a
break- for example- within the past year, CSX announced a new
VP-Mechanical.  At the same time, a shortline was advertising for the
same position.  The guy CSX put in this position wouldn't have met
the
job requirements of the shortline.  Any wonder this company is messed
up?XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Education work's really well!!

Name: Jim from Selkirk
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2009

REPORT SAFETY VIOLATIONS TO FRA and UTU.ORG

Civil Penalty Schedules 
In December, 2008 FRA issued a final rule increasing the civil
penalties for violations of a railroad safety statute or regulation.
The increase incorporates the new maximum civil penalty amounts
authorized by the Rail Safety Improvement Act of 2008 and new minimum
amounts required under the Federal Civil Penalty Inflation Adjustment
Act of 1990. Specifically, FRA increased the minimum civil penalty per
violation from $550 to $650, while the ordinary maximum civil penalty
per violation will be increased from $16,000 to $25,000 and the
aggravated maximum civil penalty per violation, where a grossly
negligent violation or pattern of repeated violations has created an
imminent hazard of death or injury, will be increased from $27,000 to
$100,000. The new penalty schedule takes effect March 2, 2009. 
For more information contact:
FRA Office of Public Affairs
(202) 493-6024
www.fra.dot.gov
February, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2009

USB upgraded CSX stock to a "strong buy". Main reason perceptive
mismanagement has kept CSX stock way below other railroad stocks. That
even through mismanagement the stock has only one way to go up. It's
only rated as a short-term buying oppertunity. Which I understand I
invested everything into CSX at 23.84 a share a few months back. I'll
be like those who run this corporation sell when it peeks only
difference is they make millions in one day. I'll take my profit in
the ten of thousands and run with it. Even at the current price at 0945
this morning of $30.20 someone would be foolish not to buy. I look for
CSX to be in the low $50 range within the next year an a half or
sooner. With the 401k's crashing over the past 16 months it's a great
way recover some money. Got to remember Mikey Ward went through a nasty
divorce last year. The ex-Mrs Ward got a lot in the divorce settlement.
Ward had to sell $41 mil in CSX stock under the divorce. He has to
recoup his losses. Whether we dislike the way things are running as
employees this is a great oppertunity to cash in especially for those
of us who are short-timers.

Name: SmokinJoe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 May 2009

You all have to realize- the main qualification for advancement in CSX
is if Tony Ingram likes the feel of your lips on his ass!  Give me a
break- for example- within the past year, CSX announced a new
VP-Mechanical.  At the same time, a shortline was advertising for the
same position.  The guy CSX put in this position wouldn't have met the
job requirements of the shortline.  Any wonder this company is messed
up?

Name: Ken D.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 May 2009

I support your efforts to stop unsafe working conditions on CSX. 


Jury awards $1.2 million to injured BNSF worker
Posted on April 7
By the Associated Press

   

BILLINGS - A District Court jury in Billings has awarded $1.2 million
in damages to a former BNSF Railway employee who suffered a spinal
injury two years ago.

The verdict was reached late Friday, following a two-week trial before
District Judge Susan Watters.

Ken R. Dellos, 52, of Sheridan, Wyo., had worked as an engineer for the
railroad for 30 years before being injured in April 2006. He filed a
civil lawsuit later that year.
 
The jury found the railroad violated the federal Locomotive Inspection
Act and was liable for Dellos' injuries. Dellos was awarded $840,000
in lost wages and $360,000 for pain and suffering, said his attorney,
Fred Bremseth.

Dellos says he was relieved by the verdict. He says he's taking
college classes toward a career in social work.

Michelle Friend, a Billings attorney who represented the railroad, was
not available for comment Monday.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Sam is still just Sam.  

Chicken Pecker on the other hand, is, well, self explanatory....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 May 2009

Sam has been a busy boy under safety today. Post one thread  and then
another right behind it, 2 names.

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Loco30+ still obsesses. Engineer my ass. Zodiac stalker - yep.

....................................................................
Yep, been stalking you all day. Sitting here watching you post one
thread after another under different names. eng 30 plus, lmao.

Take me up on my offer.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Loco30+ still obsesses. Engineer my ass. Zodiac stalker - yep.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Simeon - Cincinnati, Sam you at it again?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Like RRJ said, you sre sick. We can spot someone posting under multiple
names in a heart beat. We all know you answer youself to try and make
your bs look good. Take us up on my offer with the web master. Or are
you chicken shit? Engineer my ass.

Name: Sam 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Loco30+, your the only guy on here who has his head stitched on
backwards to see who is sneaking up behind him.  The boogy man out to
get you?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Sam has another new name, Fight The Power.

CSX doesn't own me Sam, I DON'T work for them.

Name: Sam the Railroad Man
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Kung Foo Chicken Pecker, you have been annointed Master Kung Foo Chicken
Pecker by The Chicken King hissself, Jimmie Hoffa, Jr., and has bestowed
upon you the Royal Order of Turkey Basters. 

All hail the King. 

So, let's check in and see what the critics are saying about you and
your fellow Chicken Peckers:

Note: IQ of more than 1 is required.  

************************************
Name: FIGHT THE POWER
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 May 2009

You Union T&E guys don't have the intelligence or the will to strike.
Half of you guys would still work for CSX if we cut your pay in half.
Do you think that payroll makes that many mistakes? We decline...you
forget....we decline, you re-submit, we re-decline. We know how the
cattle work. It is up to us to make sure the cattle do the work we tell
them to do. We are Management, we make the rules- It's our game. You
guys are just pieces on our board. All those older men out there know
it too. Your Union Locals know it. So, cry all day long about how much
you want changes, but I've seen girl scout troops more organized than
you guys. FIGHT THE POWER!
********************************************************************

Karate Kid aka Master Baster Drunken Kung Foo Chicken Pecker still
doesn't get it. Even after Corporate sticks his head in the toilet and
flushes, he STILL doesnt get it.  That's why they love you Chicken
Pecker. CSX owns you lock, stock and barrel. 

When God was given brains out at birth, you though he said 'come and
get your trains", and you missed yours. 

Better luck on the rebound.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 May 2009

Chicken Pecker's fingers must be getting sore by now.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FekVR_SC5M

Sam we know how chickens excite you. The song has the word chicken in
it and this style of guitar playing is known as chicken picken.
Don't ell the jailer we snuck it in to you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

NEWS UPDATE

It has now been determined that Sam less than 1, was involved in a
elaborate plot, to try to seduce chickens, by claiming to be a engineer
with 30, who was supposedly forming a new union. It was all an elaborate
hoax to keep up the high demand of his appetite for chicken peckers. It
was also discovered he was trying to organize a strike in which he
offered to let Z walk the picket line at night. He planned on trying to
molest Z under the cover of darkness. Luckily for all chickens, Z was
the one Sam decided to molest. He didn't realize Z was one bad
chicken. If it had not been for Z no chicken in America would be safe
tonight. Sam was asked from his jail cell if he was guilty. He
adamantly denied the charges as chicken feathers flew out of his mouth
while speaking.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

NEWS FLASH               NEWS FLASH               NEWS FLASH

A person named Sam, who claims to be a locomotive engineer with 30
years service was just arrested for trying to molest a chicken.
CSX police say the chicken was named Z and is one bad chicken. As Sam,
whose real identity was later identified as a brakeman less than one,
with MPD was trying to get into the chickens pants, Z, the bad ass
chicken, kicked Sam's ass all over the yard. We were able to secure a
quote from Sam as he was taken to jail, in which he replied, " I
can't help myself I just love chicken peckers. I didn't know Z was
one bad ass chicken. He kicked my wimpy ass good, but I'm sure my new
union will get me out of this."

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Make sure you give us a full report on your Local Union Meet'n with
the boys, Chicken Pecker. We're all waiting with eager ears and 
baited breath.
LMAO.
....................................................................
Here it is for you Engineer Sam(cough, cough ).

It is not a local Union meeting, it's much bigger than that. It is top
secret. I've already called NoMo and RRJ to tell them about it. I
e-mailed everyone else on the site except you. I even called Goober. By
the way he could answer the 2 top secret questions I asked you, so I
gave him all the top secret information about our top secret meeting. I
will drop you a hint. The meeting opened in hysterical laughter about
some dumb ass on CSX-sucks named Sam. You made Union history Sam.
Everyone did send their condolences, hoping the meds helped you get
well from the MPD.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Loco30+ blames the FRA, the Company, the Unions, and the apathetic
membership for allowing our present state of dis-array. As for the 
Selkirk murder - everyone else is to blame - you dont want to strike,
you hate the present union, you dont want a new union, you want change
but dont know how to do it, you dont want anyone's advice or opinion
on how to change anything because you have all the answers - all
negative,  and no one else knows anything anyway and were all going to
hell in a hand basket cause there is no hope.
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There you go twisting words and even putting some new ones in.

I never said I was against a safety strike. I said it wouldn't happen
with out the internationals approval. The blame on the murder in
Selkirk falls on CSX. I said that from the start. Yes the FRA,
railroads and unions are all to blame in letting the railroads run
rampant with regards to safety. I never said I hated the present union,
I said they were out of touch with the men in the trenches. You never
have give facts or opinions on how to change things, all you do is
rant. I told you how to start changing things from the start and all
you want to do is keep posting under a thousand names.
Theres plenty of hope. 

I see you couldn't answer some simple questions either Loco. 30 plus.
Tried to avoid 2 simple questions you were asked, by dishing out more
BS, the way you always do.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Old Sam says he is the best Engineer.
(No, there your go misquoting again - got dementia? I said I was a
better engineer than YOU, peckerhead, which isn't saying much since
all the other engineers are better than you too). 

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Duh, What did I say. Read my words , you said you were the best
engineer. So are you now saying your not the best engineer, that I am.
DUHHHHHHHHHHH.

Name: sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Chicken Pecker's feathers got ruffled.  Look out!  He's jumpin around
like a Mexican jelly bean.  Goober is laughing his ass off. 

Old Sam says he is the best Engineer.
(No, there your go misquoting again - got dementia? I said I was a
better engineer than YOU, peckerhead, which isn't saying much since
all the other engineers are better than you too). 

Explain how to obtain a AB release on conventional 2nd generation
locomotives or newer. 
(oh good lord, chicken pecker, now your going to waste everyone's time
telling us how smart and brainy you are with locomotives. Professor
Chicken Pecker, PhD (piled higher, deeper) at your service). 

I have Union business to attend to.
(LOL. Pleae lord make me stop laughing. Your killn me.  Chicken Pecker,
we can only guess what "union business" your attending to ...let's
see, what's on the agenda today?  "Curly, your in charge of hand'n
out beer. Moe, your on lookout duty for Trainmasters.  Larry, your in
charge of Moe and Curly. Chicken Pecker, your in charge of the Turkey
Baster." 

Loco30+ blames the FRA, the Company, the Unions, and the apathetic
membership for allowing our present state of dis-array. As for the 
Selkirk murder - everyone else is to blame - you dont want to strike,
you hate the present union, you dont want a new union, you want change
but dont know how to do it, you dont want anyone's advice or opinion
on how to change anything because you have all the answers - all
negative,  and no one else knows anything anyway and were all going to
hell in a hand basket cause there is no hope.

If you ask me, that's not a leader.  That sounds like someone ready to
dig a hole and make a grave for themselves.  

Make sure you give us a full report on your Local Union Meet'n with
the boys, Chicken Pecker. We're all waiting with eager ears and 
baited breath.
LMAO.

Name: lemon head
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 May 2009

in june the hours of service law will kick in and help right???

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

RRJ and I know there is only one Goober.

Name: Goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 May 2009

I am not Sam.  Or, maybe I am.  Ha ha.  You'll NEVER know.  Ha Ha.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

He's not Goober, RRJ. I just gave Sam (Loyd, George etc etc) or what
ever name he uses today the insult of saying he may be Goober. He still
thinks we are one person. I see he didn't take me up on the offer of
letting the webbie post that we were different people, if he would let
the webmaster post how many names he post under.

No he's not Goober. Goober just pops in every 4 or 5 days when he gets
off his meds.

Old Sam says he is the best Engineer. As long as they send me my check
and I make it home every trip, I will let him claim the title, for we
know Sam is always correct in his view. Good engineers don't have to
appoint themselves as being good, everyone knows who are good, bad or
the best. It shows everyday they run. He tells us everyday in very long
boring threads how smart and good he is. He already showed me who he is
and how he thinks, when he kept up the post on the wish list. Every
time I think about it I laugh. Two pages of stupidity posted on his
part.

Here's your chance to prove you are a engineer, Sam. I even posted
this one time on here for a student engineer. Explain how to obtain a
AB release on conventional 2nd generation locomotives or newer.

Are you a UTUE also? Must be not knowing anything about the BLE.
Talking all your bull shit about a secret site for members only. You
looked like a total idiot. Any engineer with 30 years service knows how
to log in to OUR web site, except Sam.

Well Sam I won't have time to keep you honest for a few days. I have
Union business to attend to. Something you like to talk about, but are
clueless in. Why don't you get off your ass and go to a union meeting,
ask any engineer there how to get your password for the BLE site. In
fact you can sign up on line if you know the right answers to give.
HHmmmmmmmmm, 30 years, must have got to run from the jump seat a few
times in his life, looking out the port hole. LMFAO
OH NO, Sam has to go google now or ask someone so he can answer.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 May 2009

the webmaster can block him, just has to ban his ip address...and if he
is on dialup just block the whole ip subnet he is under.

Name: Sam the Railroad Man
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Sorry Z, you lost the Zorro title after posting you that you are in real
life a drunken Japanese one-legged chicken pecking kung foo wocki socki
bedroom fighter. 

I think Chicken Pecker has an FELA claim against CSX for intentional
infliction of mental psychosis brought on by a trainmaster's post
hypnotic suggestion that changed him into a Japanese Chicken Pecker in
accordance with the CSX Black Belt Program.      

If your 100% union, that's good.  We will let you carry a sign on the
picket line from midnight to 8 - less chance for you to get into
trouble.  

Lloyd is correct.  With the NS joining the strike, the outcome will be
pre-ordained and it wont be pretty for the roads. I will enjoy seeing
Mike Ward sweat in front of an angry panel of Senators on Capital Hill
in front of a national television audience - and then he and his
cronies will be summarily fired.   

As for you Chicken Pecker, will cut you some slack due to your
'condition'.  Sorry I dont speak Chickenese, but here is some
Japanese for you:  Momotaro wa oui no taisho to tatakaimashita, lil
spunky chicken.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

I never thought about it. Goober/Goofy is another idiot that might be
posting under various names & titles. Good one. It definitely has his
style of stupidity.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 May 2009

RRJ is a dumb ass.  He posts under different IDs - Loco30+, Allman
Brothers, and a bunch of others too long to go into. Too bad we cant
block him off this site.

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

Block all you want, you will be blocking a lot of us Sam. Why don't
you get one name and stay with it, you chicken butt licker. Allman
Brothers, RRJ and NoMo say your Goober posting as Sam and 2000 more
names. If you don't believe we are different people e-mail the
webmaster and ask if it's 3 different people. I also go by Z because
Sambo gave me the name Zorro. Which he was right, I'm everywhere and
100 percent union. I dream union in my sleep, that is if I slept.

Let's see if Sam has the same nuts to get the webmaster to post how
many names he post under and we shall see how many times he answers
himself. He hasn't got any nuts though. Hes been a gilding since he
went to work for the RR,

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 May 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 May 2009

RRj you dont know what your talking about at russell conductors dont
have to take a call, you can even ansewer and say no,  unless its your
job and your turn, no one can force you to step up, also cut back
engineers cant be forced to step up to run a engine they do cause they
want to make as much as they can I agree with conductor 1-10 there
suck
asses.
****************************************************************
RRJ is a dumbass.  He posts under different IDs - Loco30+, Allman
Brothers, and a bunch of others too long to go into. Too bad we cant
block him off this site.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 May 2009

HELLO FELLAS I WANTED TO KNOW IF ANY CONDUCTORS or engineers HAVE
DELIVERED COAL TO KINDER MORGAN IN NEWPORT NEWS VIRGINIA?

WHO FIXES THE TRACK ON THEIR PROPERTY AND CAN I HAVE SOME INSIGHT ON
THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE? anything would be apreciated, and good luck
out there rail roaders it's tough, thanks.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 May 2009

RRj you dont know what your talking about at russell conductors dont
have to take a call, you can even ansewer and say no,  unless its your
job and your turn, no one can force you to step up, also cut back
engineers cant be forced to step up to run a engine they do cause they
want to make as much as they can I agree with conductor 1-10 there suck
asses.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 May 2009

To all the guys at Russell stepping up to help the company I hope your
making plenty of money while 81 of sit at home, most not able to draw
anything till july 1. I'll remember who you are, and also why don't
you all just apply for management jobs since your so concerned with
doing CSX favors you greedy non union acting suck asses, your the
reason why our unions are week.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 May 2009

thank you very much for the input wildman, the type of jobs that i was
looking at with kinder morgan were:
maintenance man, compared to(csx freight cart repair)
facility worker, compared to (csx track worker)
loader, compared to (csx heavy equipment operator)
machinist, compared to (csx machinist), and i also think that kinder
morgan is a non union if i am not mistaken, just wanted to know who
would i be better off.  i do not know if any one on this site has any
one that works or knows of kinder morgan.  I also know this web site
says CSX sucks but it could be worth a try, any inputs will be greatly
apreciated. thanks railroaders!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 May 2009

hello, rail roaders!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO IS IT BETTER TO WORK FOR AS FAR AS A MAINTENANCE WORKER, CSX OR
KINDERMORGAN (PLANT OR COAL YARD)!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE NEED ALL INPUTS I AM
TRYING TO SAVE MY SELF FROM MAKING A BIG MISTAKE, NEED HELP!

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 May 2009

Has anyone performed a whizzinator check on our union lately to see if
is has any balls?

Name: SAM
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 May 2009

Z, you back from Grandma's house?  How were your milk and cookies? 

Oh - my - god.  Just posted this on every section.  whaddayaknow. 

Say Z,  when the CSX homos demand you pee in their bottle while they
hold your Johnson to ensure authenticity of personal urination,
you gonna thank the Unions for their support?  LOL.

Dont forget - milk and cookies at 5.

Name: SAFETY STRIKE
E-mail: SAFETY STRIKE. COM
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 May 2009

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 May 2009

Is there any reason why we need more that one board to post?

I'm getting tired of reading folks complaining about multiple posts!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 May 2009

I only worked at csx for 89 days before i got laid off. anyone know when
they will call back?

Name: SAFETY STRIKE
E-mail: WWW.SAFETY STRIKE.COM
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 May 2009

When they strip me down to check out my WhizzyInAteHer, assume the CSX
queers will be trying to suck me off as part of their safety
enforcement "duties". 

This is all a diversion from the real issue - CSX is killing and
injuring employees, and they are trying to blame the worker for their
unsafe working conditions. 

I can remember when the Trainmaster would pour alchohol on the corpse
and then claim the guy was drunk.  

Cover ups and lies. That's all it is.  


SAFETY STRIKE!

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 May 2009

Dear All-

On Friday the 15th, the United States Court of Appeals in D.C. decided
a case styled BNSF v. Dept. of Transportation. It has to do with the
railroads performing urinalysis tests on railroad employees but there
is more. The DOT argued and prevailed that the railroad must now strip
the person down to make sure they are not using a device that looks
like male genitalia (in the opinion it was called a "Whizzinator"
but, apparently, there are others)when giving the urine. I have posted
an article in Yardlimits.com and attached the opinion in a Microsoft
Word attachment so you can download it and read it for yourself. 

The link is here:
http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/ask-attorney-steve-gordon-gordon-elias-law-firm/12298-casey-jones-whizzinator-gig-no-good.html#post114211

From an academic constitutional law perspective it is a monumental and
radical departure from 4th Amendment precedent albeit a foreseeable
result due to the compelling need to have a drug free workplace in the
transportation industry. However, from a railroad employee's
perspective it is extremely intrusive and embarrassing.

I highly recommend reading the opinion.

Sincerely,

Steve Gordon
www.gordon-elias.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 May 2009

Greece, N.Y)- Some abandoned CSX cars that left people in a Greece
neighborhood with eyesores in their backyard, were finally moved
Saturday. 

The cars were sitting just feet from neighbors backyards for weeks. CSX
blamed the recession as the reason, saying consumers are buying less
therefore rail cars shipping less.

Neighbors in the Pebbleview Neighborhood say they're thankful that the
cars are no longer there.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 May 2009

"the railway company CSX, placed the property in Chapter 11 bankruptcy
reorganization, telling a judge that it was "unable and unwilling to
continue funding" losses."


If CSX can go bankrupt on an individual property, Please, Please Go
bankrupt on the Conrail properties from 1999. Return them to a Good
railroad company.

Thanks 

:)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 May 2009

"the railway company CSX, placed the property in Chapter 11 bankruptcy
reorganization, telling a judge that it was "unable and unwilling to
continue funding" losses."



WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, W.Va. -- The Greenbrier resort's new owner --
the man who outmaneuvered the mighty Marriott International -- is a
coal baron who just sold some mines to the Russians for $436 million.
He is enormous and boisterous, standing 6-foot-7 and weighing enough
that he calls himself a "fat hog." He is the president of the local
youth baseball league and coach of the girls' high school basketball
team and is driven around town by his buddy Moe. 

"These people haven't seen anything quite like me," James C. Justice
II said the other day, over a sandwich and fries at the resort. 

And neither has Marriott, which last night agreed to a settlement with
Justice to avoid a battle in federal bankruptcy court in Richmond,
where the two sides were scheduled to wrangle for control of the
historic resort -- the place where Joseph and Rose Kennedy honeymooned
and 26 presidents have visited. (Prince Rainier and Princess Grace
stopped by, too.) 

With Justice winning control, some residents said, he will forever be
seen as a savior to this quiet town in the mountains whose fortunes
have fallen alongside the resort. The Greenbrier has endured hundreds
of layoffs and brutal labor negotiations amid a steep drop-off in guest
visits. The prospect that a local man, not some corporate muckety-muck,
could be signing their paychecks had even led residents to pack
churches and praise Justice. 

"I believe the Good Lord sent him for us," said Greg Scott, a
preacher and doorman at the hotel for more than a dozen years who has
seen 14 of his neighbors laid off. "We had no hopes, no plans. It was
a glorious day when he arrived." 

That was less than two weeks ago, after Justice surprised the town and
executives at Bethesda-based Marriott International by announcing that
he had bought the resort for $20 million. In March, the hotel's
previous owner, the railway company CSX, placed the property in Chapter
11 bankruptcy reorganization, telling a judge that it was "unable and
unwilling to continue funding" losses. 

As part of the bankruptcy, CSX made a deal to sell the resort to
Marriott for $60 million to $130 million, depending on the resort's
future financial performance. CSX also agreed to give Marriott $50
million to run the hotel. The deal was contingent on CSX winning an
agreement with the resort's unions that was also agreeable to
Marriott. An accord was reached, and everything was looking spiffy for
the world's largest hotel chain. 

But Justice, who owns coal mines and large farming operations in
several nearby states, was lurking. He went to CSX in April, offering
to buy the stock in the entity that owned the resort, assume the debt
and move to have the bankruptcy case dismissed -- an unusual step,
according to bankruptcy experts, who said buyers usually prefer to
acquire assets out of bankruptcy free of debt. Why would Justice go
through all the trouble to take on a business he knows nothing about
and take on more than $100 million in bills? 

He said it had nothing to with the state recently approving casino
gambling at the resort: "That's just bull snot," Justice said. 

"I don't want to damage these people anymore. I live here. I don't
want to dash their hopes," he said. "I am honestly stone-cold
confident that I can bring to the table a lot of good stuff. I won't
be the guy who thinks with the standard hotel mentality. This place
can't be run that way." 

Marriott officials met with Justice in Lewisburg, W.Va., yesterday to
strike a deal. Under their settlement, both sides have 30 days to come
to an agreement allowing Marriott to market the property and receive a
fee for any guests it generates for the resort. If an agreement is not
reached, Justice will pay a $7.5 million breakup fee, Justice said. 

"We have amicably resolved any dispute with Mr. Justice, and we will
not oppose the motion to dismiss the bankruptcy," Marriott said in a
statement. 

No matter what the outcome of the talks, Justice has won total control
of the Greenbrier. 

"I needed the control," Justice said in an interview. "I'd be
letting these people down without it." 


Justice won over the community by hiring back furloughed workers and
reopening the union contract to increase health insurance and other
benefits, including allowing employees to eat one meal a day at the
resort. 

Last week, West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin III (D) and Sen. John D.
Rockefeller IV threw their support behind Justice, saying he's the
right person to run the national historic landmark. A four-hour drive
from Washington, Greenbrier features 721 rooms, 10 lobbies, three golf
courses, a large medical clinic for executive checkups and a
once-secret bunker for Congress to convene in the event of a nuclear
attack. 

"I would hope Marriott sees we have someone here with the passion, the
wherewithal and the resources to own the Greenbrier," Manchin said in
an interview. Rockefeller sent Justice a handwritten note saying: "I
can't tell how proud I am of you and how happy I am for West Virginia.
Without a doubt you have absolutely saved the Greenbrier." 

White Sulphur Springs, like many small towns, harbors resentment toward
corporate America, which has brought Wal-Marts and other big-box stores
to town and -- in the view of some residents -- sucked local businesses
dry. On Main Street, barber Mike Lane can look through the shop's
window and see that all of the stores across the street are for rent. 

"Are they going to crumble, or are there going to be some businesses
there?" Lane said. "I'd like to see more businesses. I'd like to
cut more hair." He said he thinks someone with ties to the town has a
more vested interest in the resort. "I want him to do well," he said.


Peter Bostic, the union's business manager, agreed with Lane. "He
will hold the place closer to the chest than an international
company," Bostic said. 

Justice said his immediate goals include beginning work on a casino,
but more important, he wants to win back the resort's Mobil five-star
rating, which it lost in 1999. The key to earning that fifth star, he
said, was improving his employees' outlook. His theory is that if his
employees are happy, they will make the guests happy. If that sounds
familiar, it's what J.W. Marriott Jr. has preached for decades. 

"I think it's all driven by state of mind," Justice said. "These
people here are great. But how great can you be when you are worried if
your family is going to be supported? These people have been through a
really tough go of it and so we are in the process of lifting the cloud
and bringing the sun back out."

Name: Jacksonville Division
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 May 2009

We need to Safety Strike, even if it means a WILD CAT. 

The unions dont care.  who needs them. 

WILD CAT STRIKE - SAFETY STRIKE.

Name: clyde B.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 May 2009

The Union needs to call a SAFETY STIKE.   

CSX will kill, maim or injure all of us. They dont care. 

STRIKE!

Name: FUQCSX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 May 2009

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Name: SAM the RAILROAD MAN
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 May 2009

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Name: Ennis
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2009

I was saddened to hear about a fallen brother in Selkirk. I do not know
the details of this tragic accident. My sympathy goes to his family. I
do believe that CSX has put men in harms way in order to save a few
dollars. I cannot understand a 1 man remote job- IT IS UNSAFE! I cannot
understand a yard job with just an engineer and a foreman. All yard jobs
should have a switchman, and all remotes should have 2 men. Why did the
unions let them cut the jobs? I hate RCO jobs! I believe for safety
reasons that WE should DEMAND change! I call for a SAFETY STRIKE! I am
only one man/ one voice, but I realize that under these working
conditions, Each and every one of us is at risk every day we are out
here. One thing I have seen is a bunch of apathy in most workers here
at CSX. The Company is run like crap! A bunch of morons making stupid
decisions that affect our lives- LITERALLY! WE need to show solidarity
to effect change. Everyone here knew it was just a matter of time until
someone paid the ultimate sacrifice. Thank God that you are able to read
this today, because it could be you tomorrow. Again, I feel for this
man's family in their time of grief; my prayers are with them. If the
allegations are correct about the TM, then someone needs to take him
for a long walk. I hope the family sues for Billion$. I hope they
bankrupt this Company! SAFETY STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 May 2009

Dear All-

I am a lawyer that sues railroads. In our firms experience, only in
VERY rare circumstances, do the railroads ever try to be fair to an
injured employee. Ninety-nine percent of the time, the exact moment you
make a report of injury you become the "enemy". It does not matter
that you have given all you have to give for the railroad. CSX is, by
far, the worst of the worst. They will convince people to lie about
their injury after persuading them not to make a report. They will
actually fly head honchos in from Jacksonville to do this. They know
the person got hurt at work but they will just stand their and watch
the person make a false statement after hours of intimidation. We like
suing railroads and we like getting Managers under oath. Their evil
ways do not stop with just injuries. They will do the same to a widow
and try and quick settle with them.

Sincerely,

Lie Hunter

Name: Michael Lindsey--UP Conductor
E-mail: usdevildog1987@hotmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 May 2009

That is terrible about the fatality on CSX the other night.  I HATE
RCL's HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE THEM.    They are dangerous as
hell.  When I first hired out for the UP in Oakland, CA someone was run
over and cut in half while operating a remote.  Yet, the Class 1's love
to save money, even at the expense of efficiency and more importantly,
lives.   What ever happened to the days of honesty, for the sake of
doing what is right????  I would rather be furloughed than to work RCL.
  Does anyone know the details of the story  (when, where, how, who)  I
would like to submit this to the national news.  Someone should.  How
is it that baseball players on steroids, or the miss america pageant
are on the news for days, but when it comes to reporting a death on one
of the unsafe class 1's, it is always covered up.....AND NEVER REPORTED
  Why........

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2009

Criminal charges should be pursued by this family, against the
trainmaster as well as csx, accidental deaths are prosecutable if there
was neglect, and the trainmaster definitely showed neglect. The coverup
is underway.

Name: SAM, the UNION MAN
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 May 2009

STRIKE.  UNSAFE WORKING CONDITIONS. STRIKE. 

STRIKE. STRIKE. STRIKE. STRIKE. STRIKE. STRIKE. STRIKE. STRIKE.

How many times does it have to be said?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 May 2009

A UTU member was fatally injured tonight on a one man remote control
assignment which was an East End puller in Selkirk, NY.  I have been
advised he was ordered to change a knuckle by himself after requesting
assistance from the car department.  The unofficial report is he twice
requested assistance from the car department as was ordered both times
by the trainmaster in charge he would be required to change the knuckle
without the assistance of the car department

Name: avejoe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2009

hey there shockey there is nothing wrong with hairy women maybe black
women but not hairy  lol

fuck csx fuck the econmy and fuck all those working for csx makin the
big bucks i see you drive by and flip you off 
sorry in advance for this lol

Name: Justin Shockey
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 May 2009

Matt Sanders loves fat, black, hairy woman from what I hear when I went
to my investigation the other day.  Look out Predator!!!!  He is coming
for you!!!hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahha  And winning an arguement
from a CSX employee in Baltimore (LET ALONE IF IT IS ON LINE OR NOT) is
not hard.  It is LIKE FIGHTING IN THE SPECIAL
OLYMPICS!!!hahahahahahhahahahahaha  Just working there is a tribute to
the special Olympics!!!hahahahahahah  Dumbass waterheads!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 May 2009

The Cock Sucker Xpress is looking for a few good cock suckers to fill up
TM slots.   

All you ass kissin sausage lickn butt sniffin collatobors start linin
up.

Name: 
E-mail: BNSFis the BEST
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 May 2009

We call them the Cock Sucker Express on our rails.  LOL   Run by 
Cock Suckers in Jacksonville and other places.   High rate of gays run
CSX   Maybe that is why it is so fucked up.

BNSF is a real railroad run better than the rest.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 May 2009

Need more monikers for CSX?  Try these:

Common Sense eXtinct

Crappy Shitty eXpress

Crashed, Smashed, eXploded

Crooked Sadistic eXecutives

Cut (jobs) Screw (employees & customers) eXterminate (morale)

Name: Santa's Little Helper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 May 2009

CSX stands for Chicken Shit Xpress

Name: Santa's Little Helper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 May 2009

CSX stands for Chicken Shit Express

Name: Michael Lindsey
E-mail: usdevildog1987@hotmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 May 2009

You know, CSX is just as bad as any of the Class 1's.  I work for the
UP in Pocatello, ID, although I have followed my seniority all the way
to Las Vegas, NV, Salt Lake City, Los Angeles, Sacramento, and all
places in between.  No matter what the sacrifices that you make for
them, they will never thank you, they will never give you
encouragement, they will never pay you what they owe you, and then they
will just furlough you when times get a little slow....and throw you out
like a piece of garbage.  After 3 years of doing everything that was
required of me, and working hard for their benefit, my wife and I are
starving and about to loose our house and our car because they cannot
see any way to not furlough me.    Meanwhile, the boards are being kept
really short, and crews are almost always turning on their rest.  Many
times there is not even a crew ready to be called, but yet there are
almost 500 people in my seniority district cut off.  Yeah, that makes a
ton of since.........Its all the same, whether your on the  "Usually
Parked Railroad," the "Bigger Now Still Fucked Railroad" the "Nazi
Southern Railroad" or the CSX (I dont know a good acronym)  They like
to give their train crew employees the shaft.  Nothing you can do to
change it, because the union lets them get away with it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 May 2009

From the REAL FOGHORN LEGHORN,

     That sounds like something I WOULD LOVE TO DO!!!!!  I have to
agree with the gentleman below who tried to use my nickname to cover up
for himself.  But I have to give respect to him for two reasons:

1) He used my nickname to say something "I" would love to do and he
used my name because he STILL works at that shit hole unlike me because
I am more intelligent than any CSX management, let alone CSX employee in
Baltimore and got the hell out when the timing was right!!!  (I realize
this website is looked at globally, let alone nation wide.  But that
doesn't take much to be more intelligent than anyone in
Baltimore...PERIOD!!)

2) I consider you a gentleman for being on the same page I am.  I
honestly consider that a compliment and THANK YOU!!:0):0):0):0)...Use
my nickname all you want!!!!!  Have a safe CSX DAY!!!  Safety is a way
of life!!!  You will need it in BALTIMORE!!!LMAO LMAO LMAO  No matter
what route you go!!!...  :0):0):0)....

FOGHORN LEGHORN.......(Whats up Danny??)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 May 2009

Well Lloyd, I was prepared to join you in the great CSX swine flu
epidemic yesterday, but I got cut off again and couldn't even hold
anything to mark off from... but I was there with you guys that had the
balls to do it in spirit.  I hope the HOS law comes into effect shortly
and is not delayed again and Mikey Ward and the boys take it straight
up the arse!!!  Maybe some of our furloughed brothers and sisters can
actually mark back up then!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 May 2009

How does Will have time to go to parties?  I guess being Bob Frulla's
nephew has its privileges.

Name: foghorn leghorn
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 May 2009

Last night, I fucked Michael Ward's soon- to -be ex- wife. I bent that
little whore like a pretzel and shot a load in her ass. It was the
least I could do for the team. Video footage to follow.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 May 2009

In re the post from the new hire con that was recently furloughed.

I know this won't be much solace to you and your furloughed Brothers
and Sisters...you have heard tales of woe from old head
engineers and conductors. Being furloughed for years at a time for
their first 20 years of service.

If I remember correctly, most of the tales involved being furloughed 
in late September or October and usually lasted 6 months or more...In
my case I hired out (May) in Mobile and was forced to New Orleans to
cub. I was furloughed after Labor Day for about 6 months.

For the last 4 or 5 years the bitching about being furloughed has
started after Labor Day depending on the terminal and rolls across the
system with the recalls starting around Easter.

The carrier and the union has done an abysmal job of projecting
manpower needs...nothing like being furloughed at Christmas!

You didn't mention how many years of service you have...if you lasted
until March you probably have 3+. The bitching about furloughs really
didn't crank up until after the first of the year.

I made a post last summer about the economy, furlough season starting
early, cutting deep and lasting long. I hope I'm wrong, only time will
tell.

You no doubt have been following the often heated debate about
union representation and responsiveness to their memberships.

Perhaps the widespread furloughs didn't start until after the holidays
can be attributed to the union and the carrier...it would be nice to at
least think so. The economy was in the tank at the end of last
summer...that's when the furlough should have started. Then
again the discipline policy could have played a part!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 May 2009

Goobers in the bottle again. He's tighter than dicks hat band. Old
drunk lush, I say.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 May 2009

How sorry can a person really BE. Furloughed in March 2009. Was called
back with other starving conductors and made more in 4 weeks than he
made in 2 months. This dude just want's a steady pay check. Those
job's are easy to find.
 Mgt say's no more lay off's, are you kidding me!  We have a
recruiting failure. Sure hope he has paid his union dues,and red board
insurance. cause he just might not have any support with out them. HE
HE
As far as just a number and subject to CSX needs you are right. That is
exactly what you are. Might be hard to swallow, you might want to get
comfortable with it slowly???
 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 April 2009

I got furloughed in march and sat at home listening to guys from work
bitching about how much they were working. 8 on 8 off for those guys
the whole time I was off. times got tough for the queensgate yard. the
crew callers couldn't fill jobs half the time so they called me and 9
other starving conductors back. the management at QUEENSGATE said we
wouldn't have to worry about being laid off again, but here I sit 4
weeks later furloughed again. I made more money in the 4 weeks back
than i did in the first 2 months of the year. So what is my point? CSX
MANAGEMENT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOUR FAMILY, YOU ARE JUST A
NUMBER SUBJECT TO THEIR NEEDS!!! WHEN THEY NEED YOU YOU BETTER ANSWER
WHEN YOU NEED THEM YOU GET AN ANSWERING MACHINE AND NO RETURN CALLS OR
EXPLANATION WHY!!! I know times are bad economically, but there is
plenty of work in Cincinnati to have kept us on the xtraboard.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 April 2009

This is for Will:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYYbfwYlfu4

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 April 2009

God I love fat woman!!!:0)  So does Will Blanchetti apparently..  He
came to our party the other night with this woman.  I swear to you, if
this woman wore high heels, we were striking oil!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 April 2009

I got furloughed in march and sat at home listening to guys from work
bitching about how much they were working. 8 on 8 off for those guys
the whole time I was off. times got tough for the queensgate yard. the
crew callers couldn't fill jobs half the time so they called me and 9
other starving conductors back. the management at QUEENSGATE said we
wouldn't have to worry about being laid off again, but here I sit 4
weeks later furloughed again. I made more money in the 4 weeks back
than i did in the first 2 months of the year. So what is my point? CSX
MANAGEMENT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOUR FAMILY, YOU ARE JUST A
NUMBER SUBJECT TO THEIR NEEDS!!! WHEN THEY NEED YOU YOU BETTER ANSWER
WHEN YOU NEED THEM YOU GET AN ANSWERING MACHINE AND NO RETURN CALLS OR
EXPLANATION WHY!!! I know times are bad economically, but there is
plenty of work in Cincinnati to have kept us on the xtraboard.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 April 2009

Never have I seen a company get away with not paying employees their due
and we get no help from the unions, federal government, labor relations,
or anyone else.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 April 2009

Hey Will Blanchetti, I hope to see you in Blacksburg this fall. Come by
the south end of the stadium by RV parking (Diamond hokie lot where all
REAL hokie fans are).  I will be waiting for you!!!  Bring Matt "THE
RAT" Sanders with you.  I have a couple of boys that you might know
that would like to say hello.  Just old alumni that would like to share
a beer or two with you or BLOODY Mary's!!!!!  Have a safe CSX day and
hope to see you soon....:0):0):0)

Name: maverick
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 April 2009

You railroad clowns make me laugh. You think your Unions represent you?
You think the Unions need your dues to exist? WRONG! The carriers pay
the Unions more money per year than you will ever know...Because it is
illegal! But hey, It's America....Everything is ok. You clowns think
that a Union will stand up for you- when you pansies won't even stand
up for yourselves. Hilarious to think about what rights and privileges
you clowns have squandered over the years. Real Trainmen died to get
you these Unions and you pansies disgrace the memories of the real
trainmen that built this country. You boys got no backbone, so why do
you think your unions would be any different. Ask your union this:
'what have you done for me lately?' NOTHING?! And how much did it
cost you last year in dues? Wake Up, Get Up, Stand Up!

Name: Chicken slack action pants
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2009

You see, the position I'm in my personal life affords me the
opportunity to see management in a unique way.

Example:

I was walking down the street one day, minding my own business and then
suddenly, A pile of fresh steaming pile of dog shit, un-molested by
flysĄ   looked up at me and said, "You're no fucking good."

See where I'm getting at? 



 
Ą  A pile of fresh steaming pile of dog shit, un-molested by flys = CSX
management.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 April 2009

Jax Division is so fucked up like the rest of the other divisions. Don
Jones who the fuck made this guy a division manager? Seriously is he an
alcoholic?? If not he's on something. Same thing here Rube, heard about
Pensacola, keep your heads up high on the P&A/PD

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2009

Just thought I would share this tid bit about our glorious csx, I was
injured on the job, payrol shorted my check the last day I worked, I
called them and they acknowledged error, check earning statement and
payrol deducted all towards health ins, all 117. of it, wow, heartless,
no money comin in and they needed this. I hope this money pays for 1 of
mikeys cigars.

Name: Chicken slack action pants
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2009

The murder-suicide of the Billotti-Wood family

Scholars link Wood's stressful work situation as an employee for CSX
Railroad



http://www.gazette.net/stories/04232009/urbanew172707_32531.shtml

Name: turtlehead
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 April 2009

I heard that same shit, Rube. Hell, I heard more like 3 years or even
turning P'cola into a Flomerton. You boys in the JAX division are
getting the root buried all up in your guts. Stay strong, brothers.
Remember May 1rst! " We must all hang together, or surely we will all
hang separately!" Make May 1rst a day to spend at home with your
families. Take one day out of your busy life and do not even think
about CSX or working. I wonder how many brothers will do that? I never
met a bunch of men that talked so much shit, but bowed down like little
bitches. And you oldheads are the worst ones- ya'll need testosterone
injections cause ya'll done sold your souls so many times you cannot
hardly consider yourselves men anymore. I'm just Sayin'

Name: Rube
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 April 2009

They been talkin' 'bout shuttin' down the P&A/PD for awhile now. I
heard Tommy got a bonus for reducing the manpower there in Pensacola.
Furloughs = brownie points with management. Melvin said they gonna run
everthing off extra boards in May. and they gonna furlough about 10-20
more people there. So, look out Mobile! Them boys is coming and if you
ain't got 6-7 years seniority= welcome to furlough city or New
Orleans. I'd rather be furloughed than live in that shit hole! Good
Luck and Hope it don't last 2 more years like they been sayin'.

Name:  average joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 April 2009

hey guys i dont know who zorro or nomo are but im joe not a ghost
account controlled by another member 
so there

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 April 2009

BOB FRULLA FOURLOUGHING AGAIN IN ERWIN AND AROUND THE HUNTINGTON
DEVISION. FUNNY MR FRULLA HOW LAST TIME YOU CUTT EVERYONE HERE OFF YOU
HAD CREW CALLERS CALLING ME TELLING ME YOU HAD TRAINS TIED DOWN
EVERYWHERE WHITH NO ONE TO MOVE THEM. YOU COULD NOT FILL YOUR REGULAR
ASSIGNMENTS, YOU DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH MAN POWER TO RUN THE ERWIN AREA
AND IM SURE THE REST OF THE HUNTINGTON DEVISION THEN YOU CALL US BACK
AND HAS TROUBLE GETTING PEOPLE TO MARK BACK UP BE FOR SURE MR FRULLA
THAT THIS TIME WHEN YOU HAVE TRAINS SITTING AND JOBS ARE UNFILLED AND
YOU HAVE TO CUT THE FOURLOUGH BOARD THAT YOULL BE WITHOUT THE MANPOWER
BECAUSE NO ONE HERE IS MARKING UP UNTIL THE VERY LAST MINUTE THEY HAVE
TO OR EVEN LONGER IT HAS DONE BEEN DISSCUSSED. TREAT US LIKE WE ARE
NOTHING THATS WHAT YOULL GET IN RETURN. EVERYTIME YOU FOURLOUGH MONTH
ON AND MONTH OFF WITH NO NOTICE YOU JUST CAUSE PEOPLE TO HATE THIS
COMPANY MORE. fOR THE OLD HEADS WHO ARE RACKING A NICE
4,000-5,000-6,000 OR MORE CHECK EVERY HALF WITH 50 GUYS CUTT BACK
REMEMEBER THAT YOUR FUCKING US UP THE ASS AS MUCH AS MR FRULLA IS. IF
EVERYONE WOULD TAKE A FUCKING DAY OFF EVERY HALF IT WOULD SURELY HELP
EVERYONE OUT. AND BEFORE YOU RESPOND TO THIS DONT GIVE ME THAT FUCKING
IVE BEEN THERE AND I DIDNT GO OUT AND GET IN DEPHT FUNNY TO ME THAT THE
RAILROADS GOT YOUR NUTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU RETIRE BECAUSE YOUR FUCKING
SOAKING IN LOADS OF FUCKING DEPHT!

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 April 2009

Thanks to all the Brothers who have responded in a responsible and
constructive way to the Union problem. 

Guys, if possible, please post your Union membership contact
information lists on this site. 

Thank you.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 April 2009

Here is what our Company-Sponsored Unions have to say about Railroad
rank and file (read Company-Sponsored posts by Loco30+ - the
Company-Boot Stomping Union Man - see for yourself how the Unions
think, and what kind of union "representation" we have....):  

The Railroad rank and file have no power. 

The rank and file likes to get screwed – so we (the Company sponsored
unions)  help the company put the screws to you.  

Railroad workers have no hope. 

Railroad workers have no rights. 

Railroad workers can’t strike.

Railroad workers can’t take a sick day off. 

Railroad workers can’t get a funeral day off. 

Railroad workers who get hurt, get punished. 

Railroad workers must work in ultra-hazardous conditions without
adequate safety protection. 

Railroad workers don’t like progressive unions. 

Continuous uninterruped employment for railroad workers will NEVER
happen.  

Railroad workers who want continuous employment are Communists. 

Railroad workers can only hope to live in Company homes and live on
Company coupons. 

Martin Luther King’s “I have a dream” speech does not apply to railroad
workers. 

Railroad workers don't care what happens to them or their families.

Railroad workers want bad union representation. 

Railroad workers want Unions to give away all their rights.  

Organizing a new, better, pro-active, assertive and competent Union is
a  "pipe dream". 

Anyone who trys to improve work conditions for the railroad rank and
file is mentally ill. 

Developing a new Union is Bad - too many pro-worker ideas. 

Railroad workers like to take it in the ass.

The Company sponsored Unions have all the answers - the rest of us are
dumb asses.

And on and on it goes. 

The ONLY possible answer to this assinine bubble-headed nazi boot
stomping regime is to DE-CERTIFY THE OLD UNIONS, UNITE RAILROAD WORKERS
UNDER ONE UNION, ELECT COMPETENT OFFICIALS THAT KNOW HOW TO REPRESENT
RANK AND FILE - AND PRODUCE POSITIVE RESULTS! 

Read the prior post on how to De-Certify the Railroad Unions, which is
stated in the post on the Railway Labor Act (thanks to Larry for the
positive input!) . 

Add to the goals set forth in the new Union Platform. 

POST YOUR SUGGESTIONS.

Name: Somebody who cares
E-mail: Congrats CSX@fu.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 April 2009

http://blackpoliticalthought.blogspot.com/2009/04/christopher-wood-33-kills-his-wife.html





Sad part was you never heard of this guy on the news working for CSX!!!
 How much did you pay them Michael Ward.  I am challenging you
personally!!!  Are you going to step up and not hide behind Steve
Ingram for once??  Oh no, that would mean you being a man!!!!!  Heavin
for bid if that situation ever came up!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 April 2009

Buddy,

    You really shouldn't advertise someones ID # on here and make
accusations that are not true.  Especially on a man that is good to be
around.  If you are going to make accusations like that, make them
about a guy in Baltimore named Matt "The Rat" Sanders who turns on
his employees because he THINKS he is promised a officer job!!  He is
also a young dumbass who has no sense and has no clue what he is
getting into according to friend of mine out there in Maryland.  I was
out there last week.  NOBODY talks to this idiot!!!  Look up his ID
(and people like him) and post his ID number, NOT MR. Salzaar (or
however you speel it).  If you all are ever out there in MD and see
someone driving around in a blue puerto rican mobile, you know who it
is.

Name: average jo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2009

oh yeah one more thing 

THATS RIGHT ON EVERY FORUM LOL
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Name: average joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2009

guys im sorry for my post im still drunk to all you guys out there on
furloughed status im am truly sorry i am a family man myself and since
tencare just dropped my one year old daughter becuase my last name isnt
henadez or brown i can feel your pain
bieng the man of the house isnt easy and im just here to say i dont
mean to come off abrasive in my post and im sure a railroader will
condem me for posting on something i have no time in with i would just
like to say you guys rock and me bieng on the outside trying to get in
for so long im kinda jealous if you cant tell by my previous posts
goodby note 
like all of you that put up with there shit you do it for your family
not for your health or love of the job i have worked several places
where company moral was low the only thing that kept me from quitting
where my brothers in need of experinced help and my loyalty to them not
the compay that we all got screwed by  which at the time was well i wont
say in case my case worker at csk is readin this post and that would id
me to them,

i hope all you guys get called back to work and then maybe ill get my
call to come learn from you guys and have the chance to be furloughed
you know deep down i think its sad to want a job you know that once you
get hired you will be trained and immediatly be layed off but hell im
married so apperantly im a glutton for punishment lol im just some guy
trying to do what is best for his family with what i have to work with
so guys maybe i will be a railroader one of these days if i am i will
be proud to say it was to my own accomplishment and that is all 

so guys heres another drunk post by me joe 
have a safe motherfuckin day
joe

Name: avearge joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2009

So yes CSX does suck
it sucks big hairy monkey balls
i got a job in tn in november i want to say so i email my case worker
and they tell me that since they already have so many conductors
furloughed that it would be prudent for me to seek employment elswhere
in the company i thought that the only reason i was getting a job was
becuase of the new HOS law since my dad nor anyone im related to works
for csx and i was never in the military for those guys who where in the
coast gaurd lol and got military prefarence.
So all these big plans of making decent money in ten years from now
when i no longer would have to worry about bieng furloughed for the
moment are gone im an electrician right now and doing good considering
the econemy and all and to all those working for the company it may
suck but know that finacially those who are working at least in tn have
it alot better than most right now

You know i think its funny i have done alot of contract work for csk ns
and up
the guy i did it with his son graduated from conductor school before he
turned 18 and then i had to listed to him tell me how he couldnt help me
get a job. yeah right is all i got to say 

to all of you  who dont reply fuck you
have a fucking safe motherfucking day 
average joe

ps im drunk so can i be an engineer
no really i am drunk right now so sorry for my bulligernce!!!!

Name: George
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 April 2009

UNION DE-CERTIFICATION:

I agree with Sam and the retired Conductor of 30+ years.  Lloyd has
many good points on this subject as well. 

There are a great number of old heads from all the crafts that I have
spoken with who agree. 

We have been around a very long time and have seen the changes for the
worse.  We all agree that unless something drastic is done to reverse
the decline of the railroad union, railroad workers in all trades will
suffer severe consequences in the very near future.  

Over the last few decades, beginning with the 60s and 70s,  stretching
forward to the 21st century,  the present Railroad Unions have gone to
the bargaining table again and again and come away empty handed on all
the major issues.  We have seen our wages, benefits and rights eroded
to the point of utter humiliation.  

The reality is this:  our current Railroad labor unions are outdated in
their planning and policy - they are out-classed by the Carriers, and
they have become completely marginalized and totally in-effective when
it comes to the big policy issues that have huge affects on our lives. 
  

Meanwhile the CSX,  Norfolk Southern,  Union Pacific, Santa Fe
Burlington Northern -and now the Canadian National-  are eating our
lunch at the bargaining table.   

While our Unions have been floundering, the  Railroad Companies are
hard at work  making plans to “rightsize” us at every step – greasing
the political machinery 24/7  and bagging the breaks they need to get a
huge leg up on legislation such as Railroad Retirement, FELA, Hours of
Service Act,  and the next round of bargaining.

If history is any indication, we don't stand a chance against the
large Carriers with the current Union administration.  

Even as recently as the last Bush adminstration, we had to stand by and
watch while the Union helplessly signed away our right to strike.  

Now is the time to make a change. Now is the time Railroad workers can
make progress.  

We have a new democratic administration at the helm of our national
political process. We have a huge window of opportunity to better our
work lives and make enormous progress for ourselves for the first time
in years.   

However, our Unions have remained passive in the face of great
opportunities. They apparently are happy with the way things are - and
apparently are ok with watching the opportunities for a potential
turn-around for railroad labor unions - the best time in  the last
quarter of a century - be lost forever. 

Is this the way you want your Union to represent you?

Employees who no longer want a particular union to represent them —
whether it's because the union is undemocratic, corrupt, violent, OR
just plain inept — are entitled to seek an election to determine if a
majority of their coworkers wants to drop the union. 

Such elections  are known as "decertification elections." 

They are not rare -- several hundred take place in a typical year.

Employees who want to vote a union out have to circulate a petition
calling for a decertification election. 

Here is what a sample petition looks like: 

*********************************************************************
Petition for Decertification (RD)—
Removal of Representative

The undersigned employees of ____________________________________
(employer name) do not want to be represented by
____________________________________ (union name).  Should the
undersigned employees make up 30% or more (and less than 50%) of the
bargaining unit  represented by____________________________________
(union name), the undersigned employees hereby petition to hold a
decertification election to determine whether  a majority of employees
no longer wish to be represented by this union. Should the undersigned
employees make up 50% or more of the bargaining unit represented by
____________________________________ (union name), the undersigned
employees hereby request that ___________________________________
(employer name) withdraw recognition from this union immediately, as it
does not enjoy the support of a majority of employees in the bargaining
unit.


SIGNATURE                           NAME               DATE (PRINT)    
                                           

______________________________________________________________      
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________.



There has been a lot of discussion on these boards of late about
de-certification of the current unions, and replacing them with new
unions and new leadership. 

I think this deserves some very serious discussion AND some very
deliberate action.

Thank you,

-Brother George

Name: Jimbo1
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2009

You guys suck. You guys are big losers. You guys have no lives making
fun of a good railroad like CSX. CSX is actually a decent railroad, and
sure, it has its faults and mess-ups, but give them a break! All
railroads have their faults/mess-ups! Nobody is perfect! They are a
relatively good railroad! Also, for all of you railfans, I'm sure that
most railfans hate seeing rail lines get abandoned, right? CSX doesn't
abandon lines much. The worst railroad when it comes to abandoning
lines is Union Pacific, who abandons way more lines than most
railroads. They also have way more accidents than CSX. You can't blame
CSX for hitting cars/trucks at railroad crossings, either! You guys are
so retarded! Most trains need at least a mile to stop, so how are they
going to stop when some idiot driver decides to be a moron! They can't
help if the driver is stupid enough to race a train! 10 minutes saved is
not worth risking your life over! Trains very very rarely waste any more
time than 10 minutes. Is 10 minutes worth risking your life over? No!
This is very stupid! Also, look both ways before crossing railroad
crossings! Also, every company has its share of bad employees, so you
can't just go around bugging CSX because they have SOME bad employees.
Like I said, no company is perfect! If you are going to make fun of any
railroad, make fun of Union Pacific. UP sucks, their service is very
slow (the trains usually only go like 2 miles per hour or something
like that that is really slow), They abandon lines all of the time
(that's very loser-ish for a railroad to do), and they hardly ever
even run trains on their lines! Like, there is one line that I live
near where there are only 3 or 4 trains a day! So, if you are going to
ridicule any railroad, you should at least do it to a railroad that
REALLY DOES SUCK, LIKE UNION PACIFIC! IT SUCKS!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 April 2009

Danny Cunningham

I've research the BLET SSA for CSX looking for a provision that states
you forfieted the PBP when resigning. Nowhere did I find anything
related to your circumstance. I do know a friend that became a RFE last
year and did get his bonus for 2008. I do know that in a resignation you
forfiet your rights to all claims. I don't consider the PBP as a claim
as it is a form of pay increase which you should be entitled. I wish
you luck in persuing this matter.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2009

From what I read it just looks like he wants the money CSX owes him.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2009

I remember Danny Cunningham very well. 

Always thought he knew more than anyone.  

Looks like he wants to pick up his marbles and go play somewhere else,
again. 

Some guys never change.

Name: Danny Cunningham
E-mail: chinkaqroo@hotmail.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2009

I came to this web site to share my story,and what did I get,insulted.
Yes, I had 31 years with the CSX, and yes I got a much better deal at
the CN. If the stories on this site doesn't explain why a employee
would change employers, I don't know what would. Write what you will,
I'll not be back.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 April 2009

Mr Cunningham,
If you really have over 30 with CSX, you are a moron.
When you move to any job you leave of your own free will. I know what
you thought, the bonus cash would come your way, and now it has not.
Keep working with the union, they will surely help you out???

You moved for a better deal, hope ya got what ya wanted, cause it is
time to live with it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 April 2009

I HAVE A FRIEND WORKED 23 YEARS FOR FEC,THINK ITS A PART OF CXS? HE WAS
A TRACKMAM/BRIDGEMAN. JOB ABOLISHED SHOULD OF BEEN ALLOWED TO ROLL A 6
YEAR PERSON ITS A RULE BUT WAS DENIED BECAUSE THE NEW MANAGEMENT DIDN,T
WANT TO RESPECT THE RULE. UNION DID NOTHING ALLOWED HIM TO BE PUT OUT!
sOMETHING SIMILAR HAPPEN YEARS AGO AND IT WAS REVERSED. tHIS BIG SHOT
SAYS THIS IS THE WAY HE IS GOING TO DO IT. WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

Name: Danny Cunningham
E-mail: chinkaroo@hotmail.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2009

I left the CSX to work for the C.N. railroad in Memphis,TN. I was
awaiting my final check for the engineers yearly performance payment.
This was in lieu of a yearly pay raise. Much to my suprise this payment
was declined to me and all other engineers who resigned to work for the
C.N. railroad. All other engineers got their payment, even those who
resigned for reasons other than mine. This matter is being handled by
the labor union as I type this message. I keep getting letters from the
CSX asking me to give them proxy over my stock, want to guess what I do
with them. Danny

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 April 2009

I think CSX has many ways of reducing thier workforce...especially when
it comes to women. I paid for my "choo choo school" completed my
probation period then discovered I was pregnant. I worked until I was
almost due(even though they wanted me to go sooner) then took my
maternity leave.Mind you when I called to mark off for this the caller
had no idea how or what to do LOL after awhile of being on hold and
talking to his supervisors we got it straight.I was never tol any
specifics about maternity leave from the company or my union rep...I
was nursing and not in a hurry to return to work but loved my
job(something I cannot say about any other previous employment) I didnt
hear from the company or union rep regarding my return so I figured it
was due to business being slow etc.A year after I went on maternity
leave I recieved a registered letter from CSX stating that within 30
days,they wanted a form filled out from the doctor that "i was under
the care of" if I wanted to return to work or I could just sign off my
seiority rights and stay off work.(still hadnt heard from my union rep,
even though I left messages)I sent csx the form filled out stating I
was able and willing to return to work in the alotted time only to
recieve a letter from them stating I had given up my senority rights
and nothing regarding my return to work!!! Again I called my union rep
and never heard back....I was so frustrated that there was nothing I
could do to get back my job.Mind you I was still paying off my tuition
for a job that I could even return to!!!Needless to say I dont think
very highly of CSX or the union.As the saying goes CSX SUCKS

Name: spongebob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 April 2009

Hey there Loco. Eng. 30+

   I'm sure there are lots of folks at Avon that are'nt aware of Mr.
Salazar's sick behavior that has resulted in him being convicted of
being a pediofile.  I know for a fact (public court records-online)
that there is a lot of employees at Avon that have been convicted of
some pretty serious crimes but I don't really give a shit.  The reason
I mention Mr. Salazar is when someone molest children this goes into a
whole other realm of crime.  I do realize Mr. Salazar won't be bending
any employees over the control stand any time soon,  and we as CSX
employees are'nt in danger of being molested. But I also realize that
CSX occasionally has family cookouts and other events that involve our
children, and he should be watched. 

 I'm also sure we are smart enough to not harrass Mr. Salazar at work
about this issue as it could result in discipline.  Regardless, of what
you or any body else thinks, if this posting of information prevents 1
child from being molested in the future it was worth it.  By the way,
his I.D. # was obtained by looking at the vacation roster, so it is not
confidential info. everyone at work has access to other employees names
and I.D. #'s.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 April 2009

I'm not sure I can agree with posting someones name & company ID on
this site. I'm not going to check his offenses on the registry for
sexual offenders which I'm sure others will. I don't plan on visiting
Indiana anytime in the near future or if ever. This should of been kept
locally this can open up a can of worms on this site.

Name: spongebob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 April 2009

ATTN:  Avon employees


   Francisco S. Salazar I.D.#574149 a CSX employee at AVON yard
currently working the IN-IE side is a convicted pediofile.

I am not making this up or passing along a rumor.  Please visit
www.insor.org  INSOR stands for, Indiana Sexual Offender Registry  

Once you log onto the web site go to the middle of the page to City
Search and go to Avon. Once there, a map wiil appear with lots of
square boxes, select the appropriate box where CSX is located and you
will see a picture of F.S. Salazar along with what he has been
convicted of.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 April 2009

Amazing how management insists no cut backs or yard closings are in the
future....Then the very next day (today April 14, 2009) they come in
and announce that 50% YES FIFTY percent of the workforce is being
laidoff effective June 1,2009...Goes to show you that Management can
never be trusted!!!!!

Name: President, CSX
E-mail: CSXexecutive.com
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 April 2009

Attention CSX Employees: 

Effectively immediately, all CSX union members will receive a $1
million dollar stock bonus (CSX Common Stock, par $25 value). To
qualify, you must be a certified union member as of April 12, 2009.

Your checks have been processed and will be mailed to you tomarrow,
April 13, 2009. 

Recipients are responsible for payment of all social security and
income tax payments. 

Furthermore,  all employess with 30 or more years of active service
will be entitled to double indemnity payments under amended RR
Retirement Act of 2009.  

Retirees will receive a 2009 Mercedes Benz SX9100 from CSX for your
retirement gift. 

Thank you for your dedicated service to this company. CSX is a GREAT
place to work!  We respect out workers!  Thank you! 

Sincerely,

President, CSX Transporation Company





April Fool, you dumb ass! 
BWHAAAAahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 April 2009

You dumb bastards in payroll are the reason a lot of men don't take
anymore run ups on jobs. You research and deny a legitimate claim for
difference in pay.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 April 2009

HELLO, TO EVERY ONE.  I WAS WONDERING IF ANY ONE CAN SHARE SOME LIGHT
ON
THE COAL YARD IN VIRGINIA NEWPORT NEWS, AND IF ANY ONE KNOWS ANYTHING
ABOUT DOMINION TERMINAL ASSCOCIATES.  I AM NOT SURE WHAT THEY DO IN
DETAIL AND THEIR JOB POSITIONS OR IF IT IS CSX THE ONES THAT OPRATE
THE
YARD, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT I SEE CSX COAL TRAIN IN NEWPORT NEWS
VIRGINIA.
PLEASE ANY INFO WILL BE GRATELY APRECIATED, THANK'S TO ALL.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 April 2009

Who the ---- is Judy Curtis?

Name: Retired Director
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 April 2009

First of all I would like to start by saying... to all you assholes who
want to blame payroll for screwing your checks.. Maybe you should make
sure your claims are accurate and truthful, which sadly, 70% of the
time they are fraudulent.
 In regard to the comment directed towards Fmr. Director-LR Judy
Curtis... honestly you can fuck off and die. I can understand your envy
of her as she is one of the most powerful people in Labor Relations and
the Company in general. Im very sorry you did not have the talent or
intelligence to make it to her level or make the money she does... but
then again She is WAY above your league... which is why she is in the
position she is in... Is there any other Directors that report directly
to the SVP-HR and LR? Nope only Judy! She deserves her name to be listed
at the top of her level with Pam Overbay and Sandi Cooksey right there
with her. 
 Finally, you want her kids to eat out of a dumpster... For your info..
WE are doing Wonderful and have and do anything we want! So go play in
traffic and maybe you will feel better about yourself because your a
nobody and Judy is a made woman, comparable to Lisa Mancini, Ellen
Fitzsimmons, Alison Brown, and Susan Hamilton!
THANK YOU CSX FOR THE WONDERFUL LIFE YOU HAVE PROVIDED US WITH!!!!!
Webmaster comment: There you have it, straight from Jacksonville FL. As long as management is not drawn from the ranks of anyone with a clue, it's easy to divide but not so easy to conquer when both sides shit on each other. A modern company might try to have productive dialog between the contract employees and management, but CSX would rather continue the beatings until morale improves: Nobody wins, not the employees; not management; not stockholders. I'm glad I got out alive because this place continues sinking to new depths.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 April 2009

HELLO, TO EVERY ONE.  I WAS WONDERING IF ANY ONE CAN SHARE SOME LIGHT ON
THE COAL YARD IN VIRGINIA NEWPORT NEWS, AND IF ANY ONE KNOWS ANYTHING
ABOUT DOMINION TERMINAL ASSCOCIATES.  I AM NOT SURE WHAT THEY DO IN
DETAIL AND THEIR JOB POSITIONS OR IF IT IS CSX THE ONES THAT OPRATE THE
YARD, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT I SEE CSX COAL TRAIN IN NEWPORT NEWS
VIRGINIA.
PLEASE ANY INFO WILL BE GRATELY APRECIATED, THANK'S TO ALL.

Name: RETIRED
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 April 2009

mY INSURANCE WAS ALSO AROUND $300.00 A MONTH UNTIL THE MONTH I TURN 65
YEARS OLD THEN IT TRIPLED.YOU MUST NOT BE 65YEARS OLD YET WHEN YOU DO
LOOK OUT FOR A BIG INCREASE IN PAYMENT OR ELSE NO INSURANCE.c s x PAYS
UNTIL YOU REACH 65 THEN THEY QUIT PAYING ANYTHING.WHEN YOU TURN 65 THE
R.R. AND THE UNION FORGET ABOUT YOU ALL TOGETHER.i WAS NOT EVEN COVERED
THE MONTH I TURN 65 BUT THE MONTH BEFORE.hOPE YOU HAVE BETTER LUCK THAN
I DO WITH YOUR INSURANCE.I AM STILL ENJOYING MY RETIREMENT AND NOT
HAVING TO PUT UP WITH ALL THE CRAP THIS COMPANY IS HANDING OUT TO THE
WORKING EMPLOYEES NOW.I dO NOT THINK i WOULD LAST LONG WITH ALL THEIR
SHITTY RULES.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 April 2009

does anyone have any info about when furlough men are going to be called
back to hamlet

Name: retired and loving it
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 April 2009

To Retired,

When your wife reaches 60 you will hit the $ 60,000 mark. Her check
will be about $1,660.

As for paying $768 per month to Unitedhealthcare, you are doing
something wrong.

I pay $300 per month for my spouse and myself. I would check into this
if I were you.

Mine is for plan E-23111.

Anyways once your wife hits 60 your annual retirement will be around
$64,800 before federal taxes. I would call Unitedhealthcare and find
out why your payment is so high.

Name: Sherlock 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 April 2009

The Dave Nelson Story - CSX Whistleblower 

Wednesday, April 08, 2009
CHANGING OF THE GUARD
Bush nominee accused of cover-up
Whistleblower says transportation secretary pick should be probed
WorldNetDaily.com 
Mary Peters 
President Bush's nominee for secretary of Transportation, Mary Peters,
should be investigated for shutting down a probe of CSX Transportation
into wrongful deaths in crossing accidents and overcharges, contends a
whistleblower who worked for the railroad company. 
Peters, who was head of the Federal Highway Administration at the time
of the rail probe, is "another Bush cover-up artist," asserts Dave
Nelson. 
The White House declined to comment on the allegation. 
Nelson received a $1.18 million payment after filing a false claims
action against CSX, alleging the company was overcharging the Federal
Highway Administration for railroad crossing equipment upgrades that
were never made or were not made as specified. 


After Nelson's action, CSX agreed to pay the Justice Department nearly
$6 million, admitting Nelson's allegations were correct. 
As recently as 2004, CSX paid a $1 million fine to the state of New
York to settle Attorney General Eliot Spitzer's investigation into
CSXT responsibility regarding railroad crossing accidents that resulted
in fatalities in the state. 
Nelson told WND that even today, CSX is continuing to overcharge the
Federal Highway Administration, or FHWA, for railroad crossing
equipment upgrades and that railroad crossing accidents are still
resulting in deaths that could have been avoided. 
While Peters was head of the FHWA, a criminal investigation was begun
by the U.S. Department of Transportation in its Office of Inspector
General. 
"I was providing information to that DOT criminal investigation,"
Nelson said. "The Justice Department closed both the criminal and
civil investigation ongoing in DOT after the FHWA told DOJ that the
FHWA did not care about CSX overcharges involving railroad crossing
equipment.” 
Nelson further told CSX that the order to close the Department of
Transportation investigations involved John Snow, the former secretary
of Treasury in the Bush administration. Nelson alleged to WND that
Snow's nomination to head Treasury was the reason Peters told the
Justice Department the overcharges in the CSX investigation did not
merit further investigation. 
Nelson said his attorney sent him an e-mail after Justice closed the
CSX investigations and told him specifically the statement of the FHWA
was the key reason the investigations were closed. 
"The Bush administration did not want the embarrassment of criminal
and civil investigations being brought against CSX for activities when
John Snow was CEO of CSX occurring when Snow was being nominated to be
the secretary of Treasury," Nelson said. "I believe even today that
Mary Peters was doing what she was told to do by the White House,
namely to close the CSX investigation even if the charges were true."

Nelson alleged to WND that wrongful deaths are continuing to happen due
to CSX's faulty, inadequate or outdated railroad crossing equipment. 
"I invite the attorneys of any family seeking redress from a death
involving a railroad crossing accident to contact me," he said. "In
many cases, the death involves what amounts to negligent homicide and
the board and executives of a railroad like CSX should be held
responsible if effective civil and criminal actions are filed." 
Nelson said he also believes Peters should be investigated and possibly
indicted because the decision by the FHWA to shut down the CSX
investigation at the time Snow was nominated was an action that
"doomed many innocent U.S. citizens, including women and children, to
railroad crossing accidents the FHWA and DOT knew were caused by CSX
fraud and negligence. … " 
Nelson estimates that in the last five years CSX overcharges to FHWA
regarding railroad crossing equipment probably still amount to some
$100 million. 
"This $100 million in overcharges gives CSX a more-than-ample war
chest from which to hand out $1 million here and there to the Eliot
Spitzers of the world and the various families who have the courage to
sue when their family members are killed by CSX negligence regarding
railroad crossings," Nelson said. 
Peters served as Federal Highway Administrator from Oct. 2, 2001 to
July 29, 2005. Snow was sworn in as secretary of Treasury on Feb. 7,
2003. He was elected CEO of CSX July 11, 1989. 
The Senate Commerce Committee has announced nomination hearings for
Peters will begin Wednesday at 2:30 p.m. Eastern. 
Inside information supplied by Nelson prompted and advanced a Pulitzer
Prize-winning series of articles by New York Times reporter Walt
Bogdanich, called "Death on the Tracks." The stories reported
railroad company cover-ups regarding faulty equipment and false reports
concerning fatal accidents at railroad crossings.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 April 2009

I have to go take a Terry Turner (a.k.a- Bowel Movement) I will be right
back.  Then I will wipe my butt cheeks with my CSX approved, Matt
Sanders toilet paper (he likes to kiss ass anyway)

Name: Buck Nasty
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 April 2009

Bend over and grab your ankles Selkirk...rumor is that junior is coming
back to town!

Name: retired
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 April 2009

to the post on wanting people to retire. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW JUST ONE
PERSON DRAWING $60,000.00 A YEAR SINCE MY CHECK IS $3800.00 A MONTH AND
THIS YEAR I HAVE TO PAY IN $2,000.00 federal tax for 2008. I am also 65
years of age and my wife is 6 years younger her insurance is $768.00 a
month with United health.even with all this I am glad to be retired but
I for one can understand why some people works past 60 years of age. in
my r.r.career i never once saw the r.r. add a person to the extra board
or put someone back to work when they had people cut off when a person
retired.this r.r. over hired and that is all there is to it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 April 2009

SOCIALISM: You have 2 cows and you give one to your neighbor.

COMMUNISM: You have 2 cows; the Government takes both and gives you
some milk.

FASCISM: You have 2 cows; the Government takes both and sells you some
milk.

NAZISM: You have 2 cows. The Government takes both and shoots you.

BUREAUCRATISM: You have 2 cows; the Government takes both, shoots one,
milks the other and throws the milk away...

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows. You sell them and retire on
the income.

A FRENCH CORPORATION: You have two cows. You go on strike because you
want three cows.

A JAPANESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You redesign them so they
are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the
milk. You then create a clever cow cartoon image called Cowkimon and
market them World-Wide.

A GERMAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You reengineer them so they
live for 100 years, eat once a month, and milk themselves.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows, but you don't know where
they are. You break for lunch.

A RUSSIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You count them and learn you
have five cows. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. You
count them again and learn you have 2 cows. You stop counting cows and
open another bottle of vodka.

A SWISS CORPORATION: You have 5000 cows, none of which belong to you.
You charge others for storing them.

A CHINESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You have 300 people milking
them. You claim full employment, high bovine productivity, and arrest
the newsman who reported the numbers.

AN INDIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You worship them.

AND FINALLY:

AN AMERICAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You sell one, and force the
other to produce the milk of four cows. Later, you hire a consultant to
analyze why the cow dropped dead.


SOUND FAMILIAR????

Name: Yardman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 April 2009

Corporate 1-10,  

Living proof CSX blatantly practices age discrimination against older
railroad workers. 

Fire the old guys, hire the new guys.  Trade experienced professionals
for green horns = CSX Stupidity. 

Bite Me you little weasel.

Name: RETIRE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 April 2009

I have a question for all the old heads still working for free. Why does
a man work for 75,000yr and can sit at home for 60,000yr? Let's do the
math that's working for 15,000yr @75 hours a week.HUUUMMMM!!!!Don't
you think it's time to RETIRE, now who's keeping men cut off.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 April 2009

Quanne,

You are a bigot and a racist.  You should be fired.

You are a corporate plant making racist statements on this site to bait
the rank and file.  

Does CSX Management have no shame?

Name: Philipe Quann
E-mail: Ilovechocos@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 March 2009

"Looks like Obama is pickin up the Economy pretty fast. CSX just
called
back 10 guys on the Baltimore Division.  HOORAY!!  There is light at
the end of the tunnel!!"


Hell, they never called me back.  I guess I need to start eating
chicken and watermelon and get some dreadlocks!!  Who knows, I might
get a call.  Either that or date mexicans and start walking around the
yards to see what I can't make remote control.  Oh yeah, and drive a
blue puerto rican car!!! But I need to go at this time.  Jason
Brandt's hemroid is acting up so I need to go wipe some cream on it
for him.

Stay safe,
The only red head idiot in baltimore

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 March 2009

Denied claims?  YOu dont say.  the RR hates claims. They hate workers
who get hurt - first thing eveyuone does it get their favorite lawyer. 
No one want to get screwed over. Cant trust what the RR will do -
usually short change you.  Best thing is, dont get hurt.  If you do get
hurt, you wil get punished.

Name: JJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 March 2009

Tacoman.  

Was that loaf you pinched half baked or extra crispy?

hahahahahahahaahahaha

Name: TacoMan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 March 2009

feels good to pinch a loaf in J'ville's Executive gold plated crapper.
  

Layed one yesterday, looked down,  an there was Ken Peifer starin back.
 Scared hell outa me.  Took maintenance all day ta plunge that sucker
down the shit hole.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Contractor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 March 2009

I will be right back, I have to go take a bowel movement on the
assistant Superintendants desk in Baltimore.  Then calculate how long
it takes for Matt Sanders to come in and volunteer to clean it up.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 March 2009

How many of us guys got injured cause we had to fix a FAILED COUPLING? 


CSX is 100% liable. 

Copy this link for the rest of the story: 
 
http://www.hoeyfarina.com/HFD5/ST268_newsletter.htm

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 March 2009

to BILL the smart as so call trainmaster. I think you are not a
trainmaster for no claims is either paid or denied by no stamp any more
you probably donot even work for the r.r. or you would know better but
as dumb as your are that would probably make a good one for C S X.with
todays work force C S X is mostly trying to run someone off not turn
down claims for we have very little claims to make our good unions  is
the one too blame . I WONDER WHO GENERAL CHAIRMAN HANCOCK HAS WORKING
FOR HIM SINSE VANHORNE AT FITZGERALD GA RETIRED WHO STOLE THOUSAND OF
DOLLARS FROM THE YOUNG CONDUCTORS AND GOT TO KEEP IT ALL.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 March 2009

"Accountability at CSX is akin to virginity in a whorehouse."


An the whores will gladly stab and bang you -  till your eyes explode,
and the knife wounds in your chest drain every drop of blood from your
body.

Name: Bill
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 March 2009

I have a giant ink stamp on my desk - it says "CLAIM DENIED" in BIG 
black letters. 

I use it on dead beats.  Right on the ass.  POW.   Then I kick em out
the door with my big black steel toe boot.   BAM. 

Loosers.

Name: Why Try
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 March 2009

You know that I'm fairly new to this site and I can tell you in my
short career with the railroad that I've never heard so much whining
in my life from old and young people.  Everyone says that this place is
so bad to work for, then why is everyone still here?  It's not for your
health or looks.  It is for the money and insurance.  Money is the
American way and you all know this.  You can't tell me that right know
in the shape that our economy is in that you could go and start over
again with your careers and make just as much money or even more some
where else.  The railroad is not that bad of a career.  There is
negatives and positives with every job out there.  Some are just more
noticed than others.  I know that I come off being rude but I'm just
telling my personal view.  I'm tired off coming to this site and
hearing about oldheads and lemon heads arguing everyday.  Let's look
at the real points at hand right now.  Both unions need to come to some
type of agreement with each other and help out all of there employees. 
Will this ever happen, probably not.  A great amount of our fellow
employees are furloghed right now of course including myself and none
of us know if we will ever have a career again.  I don't want no
one's sympathy but give me a break with all the bullshit.  Once again
oldhead and lemonhead, should band together as one and try to prevent
the company from stealing everything from us.  Oh and by the way
everyone also says that the union's (UTU and BLE) have something to do
with all of this!  They may play a small part, but wake up and smell the
roses people, the economy is falling to shambles.  If 10 million people
are unemployed and car makers are shut down, steel factories slow, and
most of the commodity's that we haul are laying off and closing up
shop then we are all going to feel the trickle effect.  Get all the
facts together and really take a good look.  I guess that the people
with good senerioty and decent jobs right know that are making good
money are still never happy and always bitching.  I guess that
40,000.00 to 100,000.00 salary ranges for these people are not good
enough.  I know that the 610.00 that I get every two weeks is pretty
depressing, but at least I can take care somewhat of my family.  YOU
ALL NEED TO GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 March 2009

If You read through the post you notice that there is alot of old head
vs. lemon head bashing and vice versa. When will everyone realize that
things have gotten the way they are because we have allowed it. No one
stands up for each other, looks after each other, or cares about each
other. In order to strengthen the unions we have to come together as
one voice. Ble Utu must unite Road and yard must unite old head and
lemon heads must unite. United as one we cannot be screwed, harrased,
or denied claims yes the unions are weak but we can make them strong.
yes some of you may lose some money or get some time out in the street
but if we unite things will get better and we will all make more than
we lose if we all work for the same goals.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 March 2009

My question is simply this.  Why are fellow brothers and sisters talking
bad about one another on this site (oldhead or lemon head, BLE/UTU) and
not about the company??  The company started all of this (let alone
trader union reps FROM BOTH BLE & UTU who gambled a couple of
golf/poker games).  Get mad at them.  I say send the SOB's to jail!!! 
STRIKE!!!  Let them suffer for once.    Seriousley, that is the only way
to get attention.  It has for every other union (which, when they do
strike, get what they want).  HHHEEELLLOO??????  It isn't like your
union reps are doing a whole lot (considering why this site exists). 
Put your union dues where it belongs or to who deserves it (still to be
determined).

Name: The Song Remains the Same
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 March 2009

Look out major hump yards on the CSX system, you may be next.

In the coming weeks, the company is following through with another
great idea from the ivory tower. That's right. In Selkirk, the hump
panel conductor's job duties are being abolished and being reassigned
to...the hump yardmaster! Several years ago, they upgraded the hump
computer system and tore down the retarder tower. The computer handled
a portion of the retarder operator's duties, while the rest of the
work was reassigned to the hump panel conductor. Now this job is being
eliminated.

Let's see. Job duties that have been performed by trainmen for decades
are now being given to a yardmaster. Sounds like crossing crafts,
doesn't it? Will this be a strikeable offense? Stay tuned.

This company couldn't run a Lionel Train set around a Christmas Tree.

Name: DOUSCH BAG
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 March 2009

See how you guys are,Just keep selling yourself's out day by day
that's what the railroad loves.Too faced back stabberes like
you.Worried about your fucking stock.Your the first 1's under the desk
when shit hits the fan. Doing personal favors CHOOO CHOOO SELL OUTS
"and allways rember your senorty and your hard times, thats sell out
#2"

Name: Lloyd Christmas
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 March 2009

Okay Jimbo, after reading your nonsense on every single category on
these message boards I have this urge to reply to you personally.  

If you do not even work for CSX "as you clearly state your are friend
or family na" then how the fuck do you know what kind of company CSX
is?  Actually you are probably just posting under this name instead of
a previous posters name who bad mouthed employees who complain on this
site.  Fact is douche bag, unless you have had employment with this
company no one really gives a shit what you think or really cares.  I
mean how can a guy take up for a company like CSX unless he has had
previous employment with them or works for them now?  Now go swallow
some Michael Ward and Tony Ingram man gravy and never come back to this
site again...ever.

Name: Jimbo1
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 March 2009

You know what? You guys are losers. CSX is awesome, and I think that you
are losers if you are going to criticize such an awesome railroad
company. If you are going to make fun of any railroad, you should make
fun of Union Pacific, because UP sucks. Don't be saying crap about CSX
you losers.
Say it about UP.

Name: Sick of it all
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 March 2009

After being away from train and engine service for the last few years, I
cannot believe what I have returned to. Senior engineers, many close to
retirement, forced out onto the road to continue working. Employees
with under three years holding regular yard jobs. Guys set back to
train service who have been engineers for the last 6 or 8 years. Both
unions bashing each other over the remotes and jobs that were cut or
eliminated. WTF!!!

It is surreal. At this point I have no interest in working the road. It
is a moot point getting requalified as an engineer as I’d be set back
immediately. I am not qualified on any of the yard jobs as a conductor
as they are all remote, and I am not sure that I want to get qualified.


Seems to me that both unions got screwed royally over the whole thing.
The BLE lost a ton of jobs and the only thing the UTU has to show for
it is a measly 46 minutes of straight time in return for doing the work
of two people. Surely both unions could have negotiated something better
than this? C’mon! The ability to bid back-and-forth between train and
engine service? Some sort of compensation for engineers for the
elimination of their jobs in yard service? Or compensation for a
further reduced quality-of-life because of regularly assigned jobs lost
forever. Certainly someone could have argued this! Some sort of
compensation or reduced-crew penalty/lonesome pay (other than the 46
minutes) for conductors now doing the work of two. And look at all the
people we have furloughed now. Who on earth thought this was a good
idea!!!??? What union official(s) allowed this to happen? Both the BLE
and UTU dropped the ball on this one. You screwed us both, UTU/BLE -
conductors and engineers alike, pre-85 and post-85. Thanks for nothing.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 February 2009

I haven't heard of any management being cut as of yet; but I hear that
it is coming.  They will probably be the last ones to get the axe.

Name: HoggerX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 February 2009

Bonus-
They weren't bonuses, they were advances on severance pay!

"Accountability at CSX is akin to virginity in a whorehouse."

Name: bonus
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 February 2009

How many management jobs have been cut??? Stock down by half....Union
contract workers cut to skeleton crews....if anyone knows any
management jobs cut post here...I hear big bonuses were given for all
the job cuts

Name: Tired bring the young men back
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 February 2009

In response to Bill Setser's post I have worked under 3 supers at
russell terminal and you have got to be the worst. I'm not talking
about e-test, boards or conduct only management. You can't get
anything done in that yard anymore and it doesnt matter if your leaving
with light engines or switching. The locals used to get done everyday as
long as we had the signals now your on the law 5 miles out of the yard,
your waiting on a pilot for the q316 cause an engineer was not rested
for 3 hours.  Claus was bad but at least he would listen, your all i'm
the boss do it this no questions, its like you dont understand i cant
move without permission from the yardmaster and you change the way the
job is done everyday that means a job briefing which takes time. Things
are getting bad a russell and its your job to move trains out of that
terminal and if your the big answer to claus's screw up, money talks
man, and two crews for to move a train  95 miles with 5 hours spent in
your yard just like to two before CSX will ask you why not us.

Name: Goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 February 2009

old/ new Jeffy coming home from the new job, and guess what he has
friday and saturday off. Hell I tought he was working friday and
driving home. His free lunches are numbered. Wonder if he want's to
give up the big paycheck that goes with all of those thank you's???
Bet not.
GOOFY

Name: Jeff White
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 February 2009

Thanks "CSX BLOWS"!!  I just finished my first week with my new job. 
It was so nice coming home Friday and being stuck in BAD traffic. 
Sounds bad, but, I was coming home realizing I had Friday and Saturday
off without violating some type of stupid absenty policy.  I sat in
traffic happily coming out of DC.  Listening to Jimmy Buffet and
smiling the whole way home.  And the trip took 1 1/2 hours to go 35
miles and still smiling!!LOL  And I counted and marked on a piece of
paper this week how many times my boss has told me "Good job, Good
Morning, How are you Jeff, great job,etc".  And it was 26 times in ONE
WEEK that he said something positive to me personally (regardles of what
it was).  Good luck hearing anything positve that many times at CSX in a
life time from Management.  My manager likes to take his new employees
out to lunch and we went to Phillips Seafood in DC with my whole
department.  Long story short, I told them what I went through at CSX
for 2 hours and they could not believe it.  I referred them to this
site and they came back to me shaking their heads. They were in
disbelief.  And an officer coming on here (BILL) saying what was said
below doesn't put the icing on the cake, I do not know what does. 
That was very professional Bill of you speaking of how these men and
woman work hard everyday to put money in your pocket and your proud to
screw them.  Your a low life but I am firm believer, what goes around,
comes around.  As for my fellow brothers and sisters, I will stay in
touch and good luck to you guys.  By all means, I do not say any of
this to put anyone down (except CSX management as always) and I am not
better than anyone else on here, let alone that man begging for change
on the street.  I am blessed to have a better job (especially at these
times) BUT I WANT TO BE HEARD AND I WANT ALL OF YOU TO BE HEARD MORE
IMPORTANTLY!!!!  Especially you men and woman who are still there.  You
work too  hard for your families (let alone yourselves) not to be heard
and to be treated the way you are.  I never forget where I came from
(unlike some CSX management) and I will be in touch.  Take care and
stay safe,

Jeff

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 February 2009

Over the years I have come to this site just to hear the same whinning
and complaining I hear in the crew rooms. Lets face it men we've been
sold out by both unions,and its hard not use alot of profanity because
thats just what I did before coming to this sight. It's TIME we take
the unions back and say we are not going to take the harrassment,
denial of good claims, and the bid system (which I heard was passed due
to the non votes that were counted as yes votes). How about the
trainmasters that pay a cut rate on dues, these "fellow brothers" in
which I use the term loosely can come back to their craft when the
company uses them up. I say they should not be allowed to come back as
they took their chance with the company and lost. Engneers that are cut
back to conductors should not have to cover both boards!  Moving on, how
about this bonus program! 8% of our yearly earnings minus the previous
years bonus.  The problem is  if you read paragraph c (management's
sole discretion)any discretion, or dispute about the detemination
regarding the bonus amount is totally up to managements descretion, and
they can do/pay however they see fit to.  But even worse, OUR union
allows this to happen! So I say to all fellow brothers BLE &
UTU....ENOUGH is ENOUGH and we are not going to take any more!
Furthermore, I say to both unions...."GET YOUR FUCKING HANDS OUT OF
THE COMPANYS POCKETS AND START HELPING THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT YOU ARE
SUPPOSE TO REPRESENT"! I think this is a case that says "WILDCAT
STRIKE". Please post your comments if you agree with this!

Name: William Setser
E-mail: Setser,Bill@CSX.COM
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 February 2009

It is true that while i was in pensacola P.C.(curt) White did tell me
who and when to banner test certan trains. Several times he even
carried the stick man for me to E test trains on the road. He showed
me
the best places to hide and watch. I thought he would make one heck of
a
trainmaster but he said he had to make over 100,000/yr. Instead he
became a BLE local chairman. - So I guess he got the best of both
worlds and he gets to make 0ver 100,000 a year. I can honestly say
that
he made my job easy and helped me get promoted out of Florida. The
people in his union are well represented- thanks to him and Kenny Gray
the older engineers can make all the money that CSX can pay. Thanks
Curt, I miss you man- wish I had a LC up here that was such a
pushover.
How many jobs did we abolish or pegleg due to your recommendations?
Some
people on this site might think you are a sellout or a traitor or POS.
I
think you are a true asset to the CSX family. Every dollar that you
took
out of the younger man's pocket went right back into the company and
to
the shareholders. How much stock do you have now? You said back then
it
was close to half a million dollars. Don't worry brother, if we keep
those young engineers cut back and with all the furloughs that stock
will get back where it was in no time. Hang in there, if you can't
get
15 starts a half, just take a couple safety days to make it up. Much
Love, Brother.

Sinserely, Bill Setser

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 February 2009

WELCOME THE NEW WORLD ORDER.... IT'S ALL JUST PART OF THE BIG
PICTURE...WORLDWIDE DEPRESSION....GLOBAL DOMINATION...THE US GOVERNMENT
MAKES CSX OFFICIALS LOOK LIKE CHOIR BOYS...1 MILLION MAN ARMED CIVILIAN
REACTIONARY FORCE LAW ALREADY PASSED 12/23/09....MARTIAL
LAW....GOVERNMENT FORCES WILL TAKEOVER ALL RAILROADS WITHIN NEXT 1-2
YEARS -MAX  ....U.S. DEBT> unfunded liability= 66 trillion dollars.
Entire world's GDP= 65 trillion dollars...DO THE MATH...this is not a
typical furlough, this is the END...THE ONLY REAL CHANGE YOU CAN
BELIEVE IN IS THAT THEY PUT A BLACK FACE ON THE NEW WORLD ORDER...OBAMA
AIN"T SAVING NOBODY...THAT TRAIN DONE LEFT THE STATION

Name: CSX BLOW
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 February 2009

CONGRATS JEFF!!!! Man ,anyone that can get away from this place has my
respect! Let everyone know what kind of place this really is too!  I am
happy that you found a better job than this dump! Atleast you wont have
to go around anymore looking over your shoulder for a trainmaster
trying to fail you on e-tests then have to go to kangaroo court. You
will do good and my blessing are with you buddy!

Name: Jeff White
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 February 2009

Hey "retired"  I agree with you.  I have been out of the RR for two
weeks but luckily have previous logistics experience that I landed
another job in the gov't within 4 days.  I am back to wearing nice
clothes and not being in the bad weather....LOL  Plus, I am making
$15,000 more a year than I made in the past 4 years I was with the
railroad.  I am seeing my family more.  It is great.  Two weeks ago a
train master in Baltimore put me in CQ status.  Within two days,  got a
call to take a train that wasn't even in my terminal.  I was being
messed with basically (I was never known to keep my mouth shut if you
can't tell..LOL).  That is when I decided enough is enough!!!  I told
my new job I had to give two weeks notice to the RR (which we all know
is BS) and I have been in Ft. Lauderdale, FL ever since!!!  We just
took my friends yacht out of riverfront here in Ft. Lauderdale this
evening.  He said,"I am so glad to see you get out of that hell hole
Jeff and back to the normal world.  You have changed so much since you
started with them (CSX).  I am glad to see you back!!!" (which he has
been asking me to do for the last 4 years)  It is nice to be back to
reality and the normal world.  Now I have to fly back to VA today and
get ready to start working tomorrow!!:0(  sucks!!! But as depressing as
it may seem to leave from down here, all I have to to do is think about
what I went through with the RR for 10 seconds and then I wake up. 
Otherwise, I am happy to go back to VA and start living in the regular
world.  I have become a HUGE FAN OF THIS SITE!!  And whoever developed
it, GOD BLESS YOUR HEART!!!  You all take care and good luck.  Much
more importantly, stay safe!!!:0)

Sincerely,
Jeff White

Name: ave joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 February 2009

hey guys
just posting to say sorry for my lewdness on my last post
drank a little too much and frustration reared its ugly head
so anyway sorry for being a butt 

joe

Name: Rube
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 February 2009

That Billy Jack knows what hes talking a bout. I see him tell the truth
on here. I am MOW and we see what goes on for the company. CSX sux and
none of the union employees sticks together because alot of scared
little pussyboys out here now. I calling for revolution now. C'mon...
Lets do it.

Name: Matt Stamper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 February 2009

Can someone tell Matt Sanders in Baltimore that he left his Crotch-less
underwear on my night stand.  I would deeply appreciate it.  I am
trying to call him but he will not call me back.  We played swords
last
night with our genitals and had a great time.  But when I woke up he
was
no longer laying next to me.  My last resort is to call his girlfriend
but she doesn't know about this.  Plus, she is from South America and
has some nappy-headed hair and doesn't speak any english.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Matt Stamper

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 February 2009

Haha!!!! I just f**ked my ex-wife. I re-wrote my will and named
csx-sucks.com as the primary beneficiary in my will. That's my way of
saying thanks webbie! The only thing on this earth that sucks more than
my ex is the CSX. No kids so its kind of an easy decision for me.

Name: av joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 February 2009

fuck csx that is all i can say
to all you fuckers working there 
its nice to know the K&B system is still working
 K&B= Know and Blow system of hiring
meanign you new your daddy and then you blew his boss

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 February 2009

Not worth responding to a dummy like that Superman because us "Old
Heads" got something he'll never see....seniority. A guy like him (or
is it her), well, she'll never make the long haul.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 February 2009

I have heard great things about CSX. I have always been a RR buff and
would like to work for CSX. How do I go about applying for a job at
CSX? Any info would be helpful.  Thanks

Name: Clarence
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 February 2009

Superman, lose the anger and the hostilities. The oldheads are not your
enemy- they only did what they had to do. The Unions are the ones that
laid down for the company. Sure CSX is managed crappy compared to other
Class 1 RR's, and management does not care for T&E employees, but that
is not the oldhead's fault. The oldheads had to put up with more BS
for alot longer time than any of the younger guys. Hopefully, things
will get better. Maybe the SEC will catch Mikey Ward for insider
trading and maybe Ingram will leave soon. The way they keep cutting
positions, you might see those two running trains in the near future.

Name: Superman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 February 2009

Loco Engineer for 30+,
I think you are a company suck boy. I also think you are a union pussy
and a prior rights sell out fuck boy, bitch, punk ass. Good thing I
don't work with you....You are a puss wad, and the younger generation
don't lay down like you old farts did and still do. Go retire and die
like a good old head should.

Name: Billy Jack
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 February 2009

Billy Jack knows what a SCAB is- you bunch of illiterate mutts. Sure, if
we could strike, the term would be appropriate. I guess I should just
call them sorry ass pieces of shit. SCAB just sounded better. Hey, Laid
Off, take the call you sorry bastard- wait and see what your take home
is after taxes, tier 1&2, medical insurance, job insurance,& union
dues. NOTHING!!!!  Go on out there, HERO. Don't worry, one day your
nuts will drop.

Name: Blop
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 February 2009

Hey Engineer responding to Goofy/Goober-

Didn't you hear?  That mother fucker knows all, he even has his own
little unique/cute way of saying it. Just ask Goober/Goofy what
Friday's lottery numbers are going to be, I'm sure he will give you
some more bullshit to chew on.

Blah

Name: Billy Jack
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 08 February 2009

ALL SCABS should be beaten with a rubber hose. Any employee that takes a
call that they don't have to is a BUDDY-FUCKER and needs to have an old
school beatdown. The Computer don't lie and we are watching. Don't
piss off the boys from Alabama- if you know what's good for you!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 February 2009

Quit whining.........Obama heres to help you........until then
relax.......smoke a joint......the messiah and pot will get you thru
your problems with csx.

Name: dad
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 February 2009

hey goober,you missed the point,i dont have a problem with people
exercising their senority.i have a problem with people not adhearing to
the contract just to make a ticket at someone else's expense.you know
as well as i do if they don't answer the call when it's not necessary
maybe csx will think about adding turns or jobs.csx always does what is
best for themselves,sometimes thats to our benefit.

Name: Goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 February 2009

DAD,
The old folks are moving into your love nest simply because they need
to work. Can you move a little and find a spot, get qualified, and make
a buck? If not it is time to start roofing or flipping!

GOOFY

Name: dad
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 February 2009

well it's fourlough time again.iv'e never seen it this bad before,we
have guys in augusta with 5 or 6 years senority being cut off.the
trickle-down affect promises to cut even more conductors as men with
more senority come from different termanals to qualify.what really
burns me up as a fourloughed employee is other employees that are still
 working accepting calls from crew management when they are 3 or 4 times
out on the extra board,or are on assigned pool jobs that take a call for
a train that has nothing to do with their assignment.to add insult to
injury we have guys from other termanals dispacing local men and then
taking calls off their turn.HOW IN THE HELL CAN WE EXPECT THE CARRIER
TO DO WHATS RIGHT,WHEN THE VERY MEN THAT WE WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH
EVERY DAY STAB THEIR BROTHERS IN THE BACK.WHEN YOU BUY GROCERIES FOR
YOUR FAMILY AND PAY YOUR RENT OR MORTGAGE AT THE END OF THE MONTH,THINK
ABOUT YOUR BROTHERS THAT CAN'T BECAUSE YOU CONTINUE TO BE A COMPANY
WHORE.the one's that respond negatively to this post are the one's
i'm talking to,the one's who respond positively,i consider my
brothers in the railroad.

Name: Larry Fitzgerald
E-mail: big salami
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 February 2009

I applied as a conductor 5 months ago.I never got a call back or an
explaination..Bull SHITT>>After reading everybodies comments I am glad
to still have my old job. Pays better, safe. secure and none of these
csx Nazis.I like this website ..It is entertaing and it is good to see
corporate fuck faces get the brown banana. Ps I can now smoke weed
Again.#11  Fuck the steelers

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 February 2009

Sorry if I posted this in every section, but every once in a while I
have to remind everyone........

February 3, 2009 and CSX STILL SUCKS!!!!!!!

Name: turtlehead
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 February 2009

YES, IT IS TRUE! THE TRAINMASTERS ARE BEING REMOTE QUALIFIED IN
CINCINATI. WHY? HMMM....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 January 2009

hey this is for:
 M of W, for 30+ years

I dont know if you notice but the website you logged on to is
csx-sucks.com. People come here to bitch and moan and complain you
jackass. hince the website name. If your coming to this website site
your not coming here to look for praise about how well the company is
treating you. Your coming here to voice your disgust of how the
company
is treating you or read how bad somebody else has got it.

Surely you been in the same spot these lemon heads were once and you
complained just like they do. In fact by your statement you still
fucking complaining now its just about something different. So why
dont
you go back to your corner with your bottle of "skin-so-soft" and
jerk
your self a shake.

From what i can tell you've been here for 30+ years and havent
retired. your tit you've been sucking on must of dried up by now.
Your
more than likely afraid if you retire you'll prolly kill over cause
there nothing in life left for you but to bitch and moan about the
lemon heads.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 January 2009

Maybe not you, never had any respect for a company suck, but I will say
that we have the softest side of the labor thing, I have nothin but
respect for track workers, they earn their money, but people like
yourself I guess just dont get it, management expects me to do my job,
all I want in return is compensated for it, dont want a at-aboy, just
want to know that management will have my back when I fuck up, and in
some sort or another, everyone will, I dont care how well you know all
the rules!!! And fyi- I paid for my job as well. was first group in
cincy's class, costed me a little over 3,000...I beleive this venting
thing is good therapy,feel much better, beleive Im gonna kick the dog
and t-bag the worse r half this morning! And if any u old farts dont
know what t-bagging is, work with me one time and fall asleep over
there, you'll learn....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 January 2009

has anyone heard rumor about all trainmaster getting remote qualified?
what this all about?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 January 2009

WAH, WAH, WAH. Cry me a river. So the railroad isn't being fair to you
huh? Sounds like Jimmy was pulled off momma's tit too early. Gee,
guess what? Life ISN'T fair. Get over it and quit yer bitchin'. And
yes, if you don't like it, quit. It's a free country. Just don't
come to work with your shitty attitude and insist on ruining my day. I
have my own problems, and I don't insist on sharing them with everyone
within earshot. If you thought CSX was going to let you come to work,
jack-off all day AND pay you a fairly decent salary for what amounts to
menial labor, you're an idiot. Get over it, or just move on please.

Name: autorackwithdrawal
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 January 2009

Last time I checked I am a 6 digit number to CSX not a 5 digit. I am
sure it was a typo and I got your idea.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 January 2009

Face the facts people(green heads), your are nothing but a 5 digit
number to them, they(way upper management) could care less for your
lively hood,. The only digits the jacksonville jackoffs are worried
about is them 6 digits they pull in from our sweat! I know Im venting
about something everyone should already know, but it just gets my goat
when you try to warn someone whats going to happen,(and this only will
get worse), and you hear- they told us at the redi center that we wont
be laid off...rol lmao!!!! They hired the shit outta people here in the
Huntington division, now they laid off people that wasnt even done
training, how about that shit. If you get a chance, burry a boner in
their ass and tell my yardmaster that this sexual encounter isnt meant
for him. And yea I dun it posted in every forum, so suck my ass!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 January 2009

Why is it so important to cut all these poeple off now? The economy
didn't "just" get bad its been that way for the past year, and yet
we continued to hire. Who knows maybe it's easier to hire and
furlough, than to give MANAGEMANT at the R.E.D.I center their walkin
papers. In my area we now have an engineer extraboard, as well as a
trainman extraboard, and guess what? All the trainmen are FRA card
holding cut back engineers. Anyone smell a single craft board? It's
here, but the bigger issue is the fact that this company continues to
cut it's revenue employees ie: T&E, yet it keeps more and more of the
nonrevenue officials, this is a big problem. Keep your heads up, the
stock value is part economy,and part reflection on the decisions this
misinformed management make, not the performance of our T&E doing what
they are told. If you have spent anytime at all between the ditches,
you too have shook you head in disblief as some trainmaster fresh out
of colledge (with no tools to fall back on)instructs you to do some of
the stupidest things. But rest assured the buck gets passed should
someone question his decision. You want to see just how much of a joke
this management is? Try this, go to any trainmaster and ask for a rule
clarification, any rule, now notice if you get a cut and dry answer, or
a "I'll get back to you", or he calls a higher source to pass the
buck. There are still some good mangers out here, but pressure from
above keeps them at bay. A good trainmaster will answer you questions
without missing a beat, and will support what he tells you to the
bitter end. A few are still out here. I do uderstand the need for some
cuts, but cutting the dead weight with the BIG salaries, makes better
sence than cutting T&E employees, it's pennies to the dollar fellas.
Thank you for the forum to ramble. Rely on ourselves to turn this thing
around. Be positive, if we work together this will once again be a proud
place to work. Hang in there "lemonheads" I feel for you.

Anyone happen to see the on the UTU website, where the elimination of
entry rates of pay will be inforced? Maybe this has something to do
with job loss, form your own opinion, who knows?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 January 2009

South Philly yard is due to close March 1,2009. Shared Assests will have
one job and will take over any CSX business that is left. 
All switching operations will be split between Cumberland and
Baltimore. 
NS and CP are in negotions with CSX to lease or buy a portion of the
yard for their own operations. The remaining track will be torn up so
CSX will have a reduction in the amount of taxes they pay. Both yard
offices in South Philly and Wilmington already have contracts in place
for demolition for the same reason .....tax reductions.
CSX is waiting for the consolidation of the yardmasters at RG tower.
For the road guys at RG.........serious, very serious discussions about
road trains with just the engineer. CSX people have already been talking
to Amtrak, both in Washington, DC and Wilmington,DE. about how to
implememnt it. Their plan is to put one utility man (12 hour shifts) at
Manville with a company vechicle to help any train that is in trouble. 
I would urge all of you to think very hard about what is going to
happen. The unions will be unable to stop this. If you dont believe
me.......look at RR history.
Sorry for the information.........but information is power.

Name: Darren Owens
E-mail: Alcoholics Anonymous
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 January 2009

Billy Jack you are the reason I tired into an alcoholic cocaine abuser! 


It was not my fault I was too fucking stupid to become an engineer.  My
drinking and drug abuse was somebody elses fault.  Screw you!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 January 2009

All furloughed employees should apply and work the night shift at the
local adult bookstore. At least you would have your dignity back.
you will never have any dignity as a man working for CSX.

Name: Billy Jack
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 January 2009

As a dedicated CSX official, I am delighted to see the division in the
Union T&E employee ranks. Ya'll make it so easy for us to do and keep
our jobs. It's not that the company is out to get you; ya'll get
fired for being stupid and/or lazy. If you don't like CSX- then
quit...otherwise, shut your hole! Have a safe CSX day now- ya hear?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 January 2009

Boo Hoo!!!! You poor pitiful person. That has to cry on every thread on
this forum because you don't wany anyone to miss out on your misery.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 January 2009

Congratulations CSX... your 4th quarter earnings report showed
everything up over last year, even in these tough economic times.  I,
in the meantime, am waiting for the call informing me that I have been
furloughed.  I have just one thing to say... if you think my attitude
was bad before, just wait til I get that call to come back!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 January 2009

Hey C&O Joe,

 Friend .....you are the pussy for not educating yourself for a job
that you can have pride and dignity in doing. Life is about choices and
you choose to stay in WV and work for CSX. It must make you feel really
warm and fuzzy knowing you moved 100 railcars for bosses that consider
you to be nothing more than an endentured servent.
 They know you will jump when they say jump.......no questions asked.
You will just walk away with your orders and call them names behind
their backs. If you stood up to them face to face like a real man, you
know they will retailate. You would lose your job. So like the rest of
the sheep you go along and do as your told.........like a little
bitch.
 How sad when your friends and family are talking about the great time
they had at your kids birthday party. Hopefully they made a video of
it. You of course ....like the pussy you are...wouldn't mark off sick
for the party. CSX could cause you trouble for taking time off.
 I'll bet Ward, Ingram and your trainmasters dont miss times like that
with their families.
 My kids are proud that I am their dad and spend time with them. My
kids were sad when I worked for CSX.......never knowing if I was going
to be home for their play, football, baseball or other events. Now I
make the time because I am not in fear of losing my job. I can always
find a job making good money because I choose to get the skill sets I
needed not to live in fear. 
 I thought long and hard before I quit. I only have so many heartbeats,
AND I DONT WANT TO GO TO WORK BITTER, MAD AND IN FEAR of some officer or
conductor losing my job for me. I had pride in my job, CSX does not
reward pride in a doing good job. I had faith in my fellow workers
until they wouldnt stand up and tell the truth. I had faith in my
bosses, until they told one to many lies. I had faith that I would get
a days pay for a days work.
 CSX as a company will not treat you as a man........it doesn't have
to. They treat you as the scared little boy that you are.....living in
fear. Fear of being fired or worse terminated. CSX knows the unions
wont back you at any monkey trial they hold on your behalf.
 I believe that a man should make his own destiny......you dont.  
 Your life is totally defined by what you do......working for CSX and
believing what they unions say. (EX. The SSA is a great agreement).
 Your life should be defined by who you are and how you live your
life.
 I made a choice ......to live by my rules, not CSX's. So I quit. That
doesnt make me a pussy. That makes me a thinking man and not a sheep.
 Bitching may be what railroaders do, but real men don't. What other
company do you know that has employes needing an alternate web site
such as this? Ever see IBMsucks.com or Fordsucks.com. 
 Real men do what makes thier life and the lives of others better.
 When you live life like that you can be proud of what you do for work,
family, friends and the commmunity.
 So live and work in WV work for CSX, that's your choice. My choice is
to follow a better road.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 January 2009

What is going on rail roaders, i am interested in true honest
information about working in newport news va as a track worker, i need
to know the real deal, what is it like, working conditions, the
location, people, the job, and of course fulough.  To all rail roaders
i want to thank yall, because you guys are the back bone of America,
thanks.

Name: Hamlet Conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 January 2009

I would just like to say that in 2006, I thought I wanted to work for
the "Railroad". So.... I dropped my $50,000.00 annual salary job only
to give $5,000.00 and three months of my life to CSX to go to school and
train to be a "CONDUCTOR"....Oh! the benefits are great!!! They pay
you 85% of what a "seasoned" conductor makes, even though you carry
the same responsibility!,They give you 30 shares of stock for every
year you work ( It's on paper....you cant touch it till your of
retirement age...so it's useless...just like the management! ) They
send you monthly letters from the "DUMBASS" boss Michael Ward,
telling you how much money the company has made, and how "HE" really
appreciates your efforts when it comes to safety and efficiency....and
then in the same breath....tells his "Peeons" we need to furlough!!!!
From the inside looking inside!!!!! I've never seen a company.....and
I've worked for more than one.....that is sooo mismanaged by a bunch
of "DUMBASSES". I thought my government was giving me a good
"FUCKING".....well me and several others were sadly mistaken! I would
hate to know I was one of the "BLIND MOTHER FUCKERS" setting on the
board of directors watching all this shit go down!!!!!!!The people that
run "CSX" are over payed and as usless as "TITS ON A BOAR HOG" This
is for you-Michael Ward (just happens to be "GAY"!)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2009

Quit your f...ing whining and just quit. There are other RR and other
jobs. I quit with over 10 years........could not be
happier.....weekends off, time with family ..etc.
Just quit.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 January 2009

LE 1-10

"I hate CSX" has to be the most idiotic comment I continually read on
this website. It's a job. You're free to leave at anytime. If you
still have a lifetime left to work out here then there's no need to
stick it out. It won't get any better. 

I might get frustrated at the continous rule changes. I might get
perplexed by some of our managements decisions. I definitely do not
like the training for new hires it's inferior. The list could go on,
then again I don't hate CSX. I might not like them at times but it's
their railroad.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2009

So basically in reading through all that, there should be what, about 30
more days for them to come up with something?  Yeah I wont hold my
breath for any good news because Im sure it will get swept under the
rug just like it did in 04.

Name: willie
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 January 2009

Hey Conductor 1-10 years here's your answer: 
                 
      UTU fights to erase entry-level rates 

WASHINGTON -- A veteran railroad arbitrator began deliberations Dec. 4
into whether to order carriers party to the national rail labor
agreement to resolve a dispute over entry-level rates of pay through
collective bargaining or further binding arbitration. 

Arbitrator Robert Peterson said he would attempt to reach a decision
sometime in January.

It is the position of the UTU that once conductors and yardmasters are
hired, trained and given full responsibilities, those conductors and
yardmasters should be paid full service scale, meaning the same rates
of pay as their peers with similar training and responsibilities.

The carriers, on the other hand, have declined to resolve the matter
and seek to continue a two-tier wage system. Under that system, new
hires, regardless of the training they receive and full responsibility
they are given, must wait five years to reach parity with other
conductors whose responsibilities are similar. 

Although some railroads have scrapped entry-level rates for newly hired
and fully-trained conductors and yardmasters who are given full
responsibilities, it is the industry norm to pay them less for the
first five years.

During the 2002 round of national handling, the carriers agreed to deal
with this issue at the "earliest opportunity" during the 2004 round of
negotiations -- to address the relationship between training and
experience and rates of pay. 

That did not occur, and the 2008 ratified agreement (which grew out of
the 2004 round of bargaining) provided that the two sides would
arbitrate over how and when the carriers would deal with the issue of
entry-level rates tied to training and experience.

Entry-level rates of pay were first agreed to during the carriers’
dark-days of the 1970s, when many railroads -- much like the automobile
industry today -- were mired in financial losses and facing poorer
prospects. 

In 1978, the carriers demanded, and obtained, a rule that required new
employees in the industry to work for the first year at 90 percent of
service scale. In 1985, as the industry continued its struggle to
regain profitability, entry rates were obtained as a result of the Van
Wart Study Commission established by President Reagan.

During these dark days for the railroad industry, train crews were
reduced from five members to just two, and yardmasters were given
increased responsibilities. 

Moreover, the progression from brakeman to conductor, which previously
typically required five-years or more of on-the-job training and peer
mentoring, was eliminated as carriers instituted formal training
programs designed to place new hires immediately in conductor
positions, or to accelerate the progression from brakeman to conductor.


Yardmasters today are required to be familiar with new technologies and
are subject to ongoing formal technical training, and local management
is not experienced enough to assist new yardmasters as was the case
prior to 1985.

In fact, lengthy on-the-job training and peer mentoring has largely
disappeared. Today’s new hires typically receive concentrated, focused
training to ensure they possess the technical training and skills to
perform their assigned duties without supervision or assistance from
more seasoned veterans. 

These fundamental changes and sweeping work rules concessions served
their intended purpose. Indeed, today's challenge is not how to fill
the railroads’ unused, excess capacity, but rather how to increase
capacity quickly enough to meet an exploding demand for rail service.

In response, during the 2002 round of contract bargaining, the UTU
demanded elimination of entry rates, and they were completely
eliminated for all employees as of June 30, 2004, immediately bringing
those employees to full rates of pay for all crafts and grades of
service.

However, for new employees hired after July 1, 2004, entry rates
previously in effect on each property were permitted again to become
effective. But, the parties mutually agreed that this important issue
would definitely be addressed as early as possible in the next
bargaining round.

The carriers did not comply with this agreement during the "next
round," which was the 2004 round of contract bargaining. Ultimately,
the parties agreed that third-party intervention would be necessary to
resolve the outstanding dispute as to the meaning and intent of the
agreement to deal with the entry-rates issue.

The question put to the arbitrator Dec. 4 was whether the carriers
complied with their written promise to deal with the entry-rates issue;
and, if not, what is the appropriate remedy for the carriers’
non-compliance?

The UTU told the arbitrator Dec. 4 that the remedy should be an award
that requires a 60-day negotiating period with a mandate that the
parties submit the dispute to interest arbitration if the dispute
remains unadjusted after the 60-day negotiating period.

Also serving on the three-person arbitration panel with Peterson are
UTU International President Mike Futhey and the carriers’ chief
negotiator, Robert Allen.
 
December 5, 2008

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 January 2009

does anybody know what came about with the new hire entry rates? I
thought we was suppose to know something at the beginning of the year

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 January 2009

Shan:

Yes, I would get an attorney and file a suit.  CSX hates being sued,
yet they deserve everything that they get!  I hate this company with a
passion like many others, and it doesn't pay to be nice about it. 
Stick it too them as they do to everyone else.  I don't have a
bullseye on my back as of yet, but I have already prepared an attorney
for when they decide to take a shot at me.  CSX does SUCK!

Name: Shan
E-mail: ShannonSWalker@Katyisd.org
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 January 2009

While my husband was NOT an employee of CSX he was one for UP.  He was
dismissed after one mistake (and owning up to it) and never having a
blemish on his record for 7 yrs and several others have done far worse
than he and were put back to work within days of committing their
offense. Also, the jerk that turned him in had harrassed him since day
one and we have documentation where it was requested that some kind of
formal reprimand was done to take care of this and of course, NOTHING
WAS DONE !!  We have had a claim filed with BRS for 2.5 yrs and nothing
has happened with it.  It is still in arbitration.  Anyone have any
suggestions for filing a suit or getting an attorney??? What should our
next step be, we only have until July and then they dismissed it all
together form what we understand.  He is a great signalmen with alot of
backpay owed to him !!  God Bless and thank you very much for any help
you can provide.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 January 2009

Kuhner is still in Chicago in charger of the transit dept.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 January 2009

Anyone have the details on Scott Kuhners being fired in Chicago? Rumor
has it he's coming back to Yardmaster at Huntington.

Name: 3-step
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 January 2009

Good luck getting those code 08's paid. They will either be denied or
stay under research until the trainmaster approves them! For those
furloughed or about to be, I feel for you guys. Keep your head up and
if you find something better take it and do not answer the phone when
the railroad tries to call you back.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2008

The UTU should join the IBT Rail Conference (Teamsters).

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 December 2008

If you want things to be better, we need one union to represent all!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2008

I too was just venting. I've spent my life out here. Time went by
quickly. Not that I want to get older that's reality. My reward is
retirement I sure hope these last years don't drag on. This next
generation needs to get rid of the blinders and start looking at how
contracts local agreements ect...affect things years down the road.
Make the union responsible for their actions. It only takes one
local/division to circulate a letter/petition around to other
locals/divisions to get the ball rolling. Heck in this day an age of
computers emailing has made it easier. Once the General Commitee of
Adjustments starts feeling the flack they'll be scrambling. When it
comes down to contracts quit looking at signing bonuse or back pay
start look at work agreements and pay raises those are the future. That
signing bonus/back pay will be gone in a flash. 

Turned down claims the railroads bank on 85% of those to be schidt
canned and not forwarded to the LC for processing. It may take 3-5
years to get them paid. They'll never be paid unless you take the
responsible action. That game has been going on for along time. 

My peers an I are at the end of our railroad carreers we've seen far
to many changes none for the good. From the loss of the caboose to the
loss of 3/5 of our crew members. Just like my predessors who went from
steam to diesal electric locomotives technology has done way with a lot
of jobs. The unions need to protect jobs for those affected by such
changes lifetime gaurentees for those working at the time of
implementation. That is not happening.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 December 2008

Im not out here for recognition or a pat on the back, I just want Ive
earned! Im not a whiner, I guess I just need to vent somewhere, and
where better, hopefully labor relations will get a clue, business 101,
catch more flies with honey rather than shit.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2008

You'll never be satisfied if you think along those lines. If CSX makes
you disguntled then they won. If you have this need for some kind of
recognition you lost. Your just a union contract employee. Get use to
it. This isn't IBM or any other company. This is the railroad there's
two catagories management and union contract employees. You can whine
about the union all you want. I won't disagree that there full of
bullschidt, but that's our fault. Nobody to blame but ourselves
complacency has hurt us. Everyone just sits back and takes all the BS
without doing anything. They whine, bitch, and complain the union
doesn't get my claims paid the union doesn't wipe my ass for me blah
blah blah!!!! I'll be glad to get the hell out of here when my time
comes around. To bad men aren't men anymore there nothing more than
snivling whiners.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 December 2008

Well, I don't think anyone will accuse CSX of utilizing BMPs (best
management practices). 

Whether or not you are a contract or at will employee it's important
to offer a occasional good word and pat on the back to them; if you
expect them to look out for your interests. 

If you expect your employees to accept responsibility for their
actions, it's not unreasonable for the employees to expect their
employer to do the same.

If you expect your employees to be ethical in their dealings with your
customers and the general public, you better lead by example.

CSX fails on all accounts!

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 December 2008

I somewhat disagree with that, I work for csx, the utu is there, as any
union, to negoiate and enforce our contracts, a middle man so to speak.
If I run thru a red signal, the union will not be firing me. Ive only
had 3 jobs in my life and Im 45 yrs old, and this company is by far,
the dirtiest company(treatment of employees) Ive ever heard of. I first
worked for IBM, and when management needed a boost in production, they
offered incentives, off shift and weekend pay differential, and if we
met quota, bonus's were given. After I first hired on here, I realized
that I shoulda stayed with IBM snd moved to Bocca Raton. And the last 4
yrs have been a absolute nightmare, I hope someone in management
actually reads this, I have never seen or heard of such thievery,
harassment, discrimination and deception as with this company(csx). Im
not a disgruntle employee, Im a father and husband trying to take care
of my family, and Im only getting negativity and deception from both
csx and the utu. Management, if you violate our contract, should you
not be responsible for your actions? If we violate a rule, we are
expected to be responsible for our actions. To all that reads this,
there might me a little light afar, google nrab, if our unions dont do
there job in 60 days, we are entitled to file a claim for contract
violations, and contract violations only, any one can file, read it for
yourself here...   www.nmb.gov/arbitration/nrab-instruc.pdf

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2008

fedup

Your a union contract employee. CSX doesn't owe you anything. In the
past maybe the safety money allotment would have gotten a $15 Walmart
gift certificate or a coupon for a turkey for Christmas depends on the
individual terminal. Nothing more. You're not entitled to a pat on the
back for doing a good job no acknowledgement at all because you're a
contract employee. You might work for CSX the union is actually the one
who provides the labor force. It doesn't matter if CSX, NS, UP, BNSF,
CN ect...are making record profits. You are only entitled to what your
contract allows. As for denied claims that's been a game between the
carriers and the unions forever. All anyone can hope for is your claim
isn't bargained off to pay someone elses.

Name: doesnotmatter
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A
Posted: 27 December 2008

To:FRA Inspector

Employees should be aware, giving negative infomation to a FRA
Inspector is not always going too be used against CSX or another
Railroad.  Some Inspectors are buddies with Management plus CSX can
bribe higher up government officials.   If you are trying too get your
employer in trouble then this might not be such a wise choice.   The
FRA does not send your paycheck every 2 weeks plus all the other
benefits.  Remember the kids and wife got too eat.

If this site was setup with better website software and format then
maybe this could be a forum for improvements. 

Railroad.net is a nice site and setup well

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 December 2008

Just would like to know what our beloved company with its record
breaking profits got everyone for x-mas?

Ill start- notta a fukin thing, warm letter from ward letting me know
how Ive contributed to his wealth. we didnt even have a safety dinner,
but at least they annulled my job, by the way, by contract, im supposed
to be entitled to a 08 claim, i feel confident the utu will get me all
these 08's paid for this year, starting to lose hope about the
previous years 08 claims, surely my union wont let me down.

AND IF YOU DIDNT KNOW...CSX SUCKS AND OUR UNIONS ARE SUCKING THEM!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 December 2008

I am a new employee with csx. I hired out this year and have not been
marked up long. I work out of Erwin Tn. I was reporting for work
yesterday ( the day before Christmas Eve ) and opened my ears up to a
consversation between two employees a trainmaster and the terminal
manager. The talk was that all yard switchman positions was going to be
cut off at the first of the year. They just installed electronic
switches all over the yard I guess is the reason. They are also cutting
off all utility and hostler jobs. This will affect me im sure. I knew
before coming to work here that there had been guys fourloughd for a
long time so i knew there was a chance, but I didnt expect to get hired
and then them cutt that many jobs off. My question is does mow employees
ever get the fourlough status? does csx ever cut back on trainmasters
where the bigger money is? does CSX ever cutt back on crew management
or payroll etc. Is it just transportation? You would figure by keeping
transportation strong your company would perform more smoothly. Watch
out for electronic switches cuting your switchman off at a terminal
near you. I cant imagine how this would affect a big terminal
considering the damage its going to do to a small terminal like little
erwin tn.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 December 2008

anyone know anything about Dwayne Pelham?

Name: Goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 December 2008

Now Fellas read back a few post. You seem to be very pleased with CSX
and the situation as it exist. You do not like the Union, but support
it? No one liked my simple comments on a RR without a Union.
SO would it not make sense that you do like it with one.

Do you know that Fedex is NON UNION, yep and they are just one of many
that really have happy campers. Wonder how they do that. They get along
with each other, 2 way street.

RR's could do the same it just takes 2 sides to play. However you
would need folks that play well with others. I have no influence but
you do, maybe, just maybe one day.

GOOFY

Name: wk
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 December 2008

I'll keep it short and to the point:    Goober is a scab.

Name: 
E-mail: fitzgerald ga
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 December 2008

if you  think the U T U  LOOKS OUT FOR ITS MEMBERS THEN JUST CALL mr.
JOHN hancock and ask him what HE DID about VANHORN THE RETIRED LOCAL
CHAIRMAN AT FITZGERALD WHO STOLE over 250,000.00 FROM THE MEMBERS. I
CAN TELL YOU NOTHING EVEN AFTER THE PRESIDENT IN cleveland told him to
handle it.vanhorn took these claims from the men working the extra
board who paid for their jobs. yes that is right a quarter millon
dollars.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 December 2008

Fed UP:

We agree that we need one union, and we weren't saying that the unions
currently suck.  We were trying to point out that to have no union
protection or agreement would be suicide;  unless your name is Goober.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 December 2008

I can't say which branch I worked at...but, feel the need and am
compelled to share my story.  First off, I grew up in a small town,
joined the Armed Forces, and then came back and went to college.  I
went to work for CSX a couple of years ago and was working on the
locomotives.  I have always been a rail buff and never really wanted to
do anything else but to belong on the railroad.  I have been a long time
collector of railroad memoribilia..with that being said, if you work for
a railroad and am a collector, I would strongly suggest you get rid of
it.  Do not sell it!  burn it...or throw it in the trash.  It ended up
costing me my job.  I didn't get fired, but was asked to leave.  Not
having the money to secure a lawyer and fight the battle, I decided it
would be in my best interest.  Even though I had substantial
documentation and witnesses that knew I had the material prior to
working on the railroad, it didn't matter to them.  Just thought I
would share the information, as I wouldn't want anyone else to get
treated like the dog they made me out to be.  Not only this, before
everything was said and done, one of the managers was slandering my
name..before anything was decided.  I have never in my life been
punished in such a way.  I could understand maybe if I had a proven
track record.  I've never really been in trouble in any way.  A few
minor traffic infractions...that's it!  But, they responded as if I
was a convicted felon.  The union of course wasn't much help
either...(they advised me to resign)  what a great union!  All the dues
I paid....for nothing...
  I have sinced moved on an am receiving some job offers.  Can't wait
to get my weekends back and start living more of a normal life.


"A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise one learns from
others."

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 December 2008

Get real people, our unions suck and constantly violate their
constitutions, hell even our new utu leader has said in so many words
that the previous leeches were corrupt. What we need is one union
comprised of past and present RR workers from both crafts watching out
for us, and the major stipulation for the job- you can only earn 70% of
the highest wages you protect! You think our unions are fighting for us,
goto nmb.gov, go to the knowledge store and see just how many times our
unions have been at bat for us, search for nrab awards and see how many
times they have taken our claims there for mediation. We are the problem
because we let this go on, like an ostrich, we just bury our heads in
the sand and hope it goes away. Yes we need the unions, as do the auto
workers, but when we see smoke, we need to at least see whats burning.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 December 2008

You really are a retard named Goober.  Take away the union, there would
be NO man trains, we would be paying for our own hotels, meals,
gasoline for milage, probably no health insurance, be fired on the spot
with no justification, and deal with Workmens Comp if we get hurt.  A
good company like CSXT? they are more crooked than any union you can
think of.  Join in and be part of the progress?  I've said it before
and I'll say it again, you are exactly the opposite of what this site
is all about.  You are a railroad reject that couldn't hack it with
the big boys, so you compulsively come on this site because you have no
other life but to live in your railroad past.  Talk to the hand because
I support my union local, and have no time for a company man or someone
like yourself that supports the company over the union.

Name: csxalltheway
E-mail: IhateCSX@BLE-T.org
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 December 2008

Goober,

You make these outlandish quotes against the progress of unions without
any actual support.  

Paid vacation, 40 hour work week, personal leave days/holidays, were
all negotiated by unions.  This was not offered by some generous
employer.

I have been with the railroad for twelve years.  This year I grossed
seventy seven thousand.  I did not bust my butt to bad.  I worked a
total of 165 days.  I more than qualified for vacation.  Now what do
you think a roadformen of engines or a trainmaster made?  I know it was
not that much.  OST's start at 49900.  Assistant TMs may make 55000. 
Now add in their 15% band bonus.  Oh yeah, officers pay more for shitty
health insurance too. The company even two tiered their own pension fund
in 2002.  Go figure.  They fuck us but fuck officers harder. 

Fuck the company and your anti union propaganda.  This web site was not
founded for people with your views and it is not maintained for such
either.  

In closing, I would appreciate it you could back up these statements
you make.  If not go post on yardlimits.com or trainfoamers.com.  I am
out!

Name: Goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 December 2008

Sure not a problem at all.

2 Unions UTU/BLE are pissing on each other as fast as they can. They
both want the MONEY. Because it is going away as we talk.
The union is why you have 2 folks on a train. Not 5-6
The union is why you have the remotes. now 1-2
The union is why you are not a part of the enormous progress the RR's
have made in the last 20 years.
The unions are why you get a short check, when you claim iffy stuff.
The union is why you work on call without an 8 hour window.
The union is why you do not get 100 miles/ 8 hours as a basic day.

Take a good company as CSX is and could be a lot better, stop the
fighting, it is not working. Watch the UAW go away, they are holding on
to nothing, all they have is dues. goldenfinger(SIC) was so sad/

It is time to join in and be a part of the progress and not a part of
the problem. It will happen-- labor and management will merge and both
will be the better for it. Example if this was done 10-20 ago you would
not only have a RR pension from the RRB but also one from the CSX. Yep
collect twice just as a Trainmaster does.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 December 2008

No Goober, but you act like one all the time!  Everytime something is
posted, you reply in favor of the company, example, "CSXT does not
need a union nor do you."  I've worked on both sides myself and I can
tell you that this outfit would have a field day if there were no union.
 I admit that the union hasn't done much for all the BS that goes on
out here today, but we would still have alot less without one.  I watch
people get fired all the time, spend some good time on the street, then
suddenly show up for work months later as if they were never gone. 
Take the union away, watch them get fired, and you will never see them
again!  That is just one good example of why we need them.  Besides not
paying dues every month, why don't you tell me how good things would be
without a union?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 December 2008

CSX got off cheap on this!

   http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=45073

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2008

To Locomotive Engineer 1-10
13 december 2008

And your opinion is what? 
I have been on both sides, paid my UNION dues, and refused to pay my
UNION dues. Yep I was what they called a NO BILL at times.

I have never been a Mgr with CSX.

GOOFY

Name: curious
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 December 2008

With regard to the bridge in Nashville that CSX is refusing to be a
responsible corporate citizen about:

Has any thought been given to

1) Does CSX really want to leave this ripe target for graffitti
artists?

2) A letter, phone call, e-mail campaign from all the local citizenry
requesting action, with follow-up communicaton on a regular basis?

3) Is there lead paint coming off the structure that local, state or
federal agencies should know about, that may require mitigation?

4) Is the structure located in such a way that the community may erect
banners, across the road for instance, that obscure the ugliness and
provide a canvas for some civic message?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 December 2008

A company mans opinion without a doubt.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 December 2008

CSX does not need a UNION nor do YOU.

Attitude/ Action is all anyone really needs. Yep, you do not need a
Degree from anywhere to be successful. 
Those that run slow, and take advantage of the employer can get by for
years sometimes a career. They only hurt themselves, because everyone
know's. They lose respect, job performance ratings, salary increases,
and many times their job. Then move on and do it again. This is called,
striving for failure, they do it over and over until it proves to be
true.

Get up, clean up, and leave the cave every day and bring home something
worthwhile. Just like the cave men did. It has not changed.
RR folks can generate a few paychecks that will allow those that are
conservative, to move on in style to bigger and better opportunities.

Just my opinion.

GOOFY

Name: Green Manalishi
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 December 2008

CSX has recently announced its new slogan for the upcoming year:

"SAVING MONEY BY SACRIFICING QUALITY"

While this has always been past practice at CSX, it becomes official
commencing with the first quarter 2009.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 December 2008

UNIONS!!!  YOU MEAN WE HERE ON THE RAILROADS HAVE UNIONS?  WHERE? I DO
PAY MONTHLY DUES TO THIS ONE GROUP, BUT ITS ALWAYS EMPLOYEES AND
CONTRACTS LAST PRIORITY.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 December 2008

Where are the Unions...MIA or AWOL...really doesn't make a bit of
difference.

Goober is right, no representation...no dues, then perhaps you'll get
their attention, until then nothing will change.

It wouldn't hurt to lay pipe to the Trainmaster that denied the claims
either!

Name: fedup
E-mail: fuck csx
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 December 2008

Pretty simple, shouldnt fuck with a mans pay, especially this time of
year. If I have it cumin, pay me, dont want anything that I have not
earned. csx robs us and then expects us to work safe, get fucking real.

Name: fedup
E-mail: fuck csx
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 December 2008

Well, pulled earning statement up last night and guess what- after Ive
been working as safe as I possibly can, they denied all my claims-
denied 8 hrs pay for attending hearing screening- denied 08 claim for
annulling my job on turkey day- denied both 45 & 46 claims for both
days- but they paid my mileage for driving to hearing screening- keep
it up cocksuckers, I feel a gainer with a full twist a cumin on.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 December 2008

Family day. When I was a little boy I went with one dads buddies and his
family to a family day at the yard (at that time it was Chessie System).
They had a cookout and gave out stuff for us kids and let us get up on
an engine and caboose. It wasn't much but it was a really memorable
experiance for a young kid like myself. I'd love to have something
like that for my kids but I guess with the modern day liability those
days are a thing of the past.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 December 2008

CSX will pay you the big bonus when they pay everyone else? Heck man
there is no Bonus system that works on the railroad for Train crews. It
is a gift program.
The union is there to simply take your money, take your phone call, and
tell you the money is coming.

UAW is staged to really take it in the shorts.

GOOFY

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 November 2008

Hey Loco 10-20:

At least when you stop punching the concrete wall, it quits hurting.

In regards to your back pay, you might need to stop being a nice guy
and hire a lawyer. CSX will slow play it until you die!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 November 2008

Perormance Bonus - yeah it sounded like a good idea. Where I come from a
contractual agreement means its binding. Here it is going into December
and Im still fighting to get paid for the performance bonus that was
due at the beginning of the year... CSX our agreements bind us as
employees...WHY DOESN'T your agreements bind you ?  Sad to think that
a hard working man as myself has to deal with issues like this myself.
Fight a big company like CSX ? Might as well be punching a concrete
wall... Thanx CSX, one of these days I might bring my children to a
family day so CSX can see who they are really screwing...SHAME

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 November 2008

I was removed from service a few years back without a hearing,
investigation, or 7 day letter. I simply received a call from local
manager saying I was removed from service due to charges that were
filed outside of the railroad... I proved my innocence in a court of
law & the charges were exsponged from my record. I submitted claims for
the days I was out of work ( 98 days total ) which have yet to be paid
or denied, they are still in research. I had a hard time coming back to
work due to the fact that 
CSX officials and Jacksonville couldn't place me back into service for
weeks due to not knowing who removed me or why I was Out Of Service. The
charges remain on my work record and I have yet to see those claims paid
after hounding the union and payroll for years. For more than 10 years
the claims have remained in research.... I ask you, WONDER WHAT'S
WRONG WITH MORALE ?  I GUESS IT MUST BE A PART OF THAT BIG PICTURE I
KEEP HEARING ABOUT.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 November 2008

Hey Friend:

It costs money to advertise on NPR every day too...to tell the public
how they can move a ton of freight 423 miles on a gallon of fuel. I
haven't quite figured that out and I doubt the public has or even
cares.

CSX would do better maintaining their infrastructure and painting their
logo on it, at least in the urban areas than advertising on NPR or PBS.

CSX like the other RR's will let their infrastructure crumble and wait
until the next big omnibus transportation bill comes up and then beg the
Government for help.

A free market economy at it's best...the rich get richer and poor
can't fail and the tax payers lose!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 November 2008

I would imagine the cost of sandblasting, mitigation, and disposal of
blast aggregate and old lead based paint gives the Bridges department
sticker shock seeing as how upkeep of plant is not on the priority
list.  Sad!

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 November 2008

CSX can paint all of the bridges that they have. The RR's did it for
years. Had a crew of 4 that painted the ohio river bridge from
Evansville to Henderson. Yep they started on one side and worked until
they got to the otherside, and started over. 

CSX decided to not do it, and no one can make them. I question the
structural integrity of this and many bridges. They look awful, and
they are everywhere, rusting away as the RR makes a ton of money.

We had nice painted bridges and 20 mph track, now you have nice
mainline track and ugly bridges. It would really be nice to have our
basket full??? just does not work that way.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 November 2008

Said it a thousand times over and over again....CSX is CHEAP!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 November 2008

Hey Fedup:

This should raise a hackle or two...CSX claims to be a good corporate
citizen, a good neighbor. Yeah right, would a good neighbor let the
appearance of their property trash the whole neighborhood and then have
the gall to ask their neighbors to pay to clean it up?

  
   
CSX wants taxpayers to paint its bridge

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- If you own a house that's run down and not up to
code, the city will make you fix it. But the same standard apparently
does not apply to a huge corporate railroad, the WSMV Web site reports.

Metro Council wants CSX to paint an aging railroad bridge downtown, but
the company wants taxpayers to pay for it. 

"You look at all the money that we've spent downtown and how nice it
looks," said District 12 Metro Council Member Jim Gotto. "Then you
look off to the right and here's this bridge. It looks like hasn't
been painted in 100 years." 

Most of the time, run-down private property would have Codes tracking
down the owner, but as long as you're on rails, it seems appearances
don't matter. 

A couple of weeks ago, Gotto drafted a resolution requesting CSX fix
the rusting bridge. 

The Metro Council unanimously approved the resolution asking CSX to
paint the bridge, but the response from the railroad wasn't exactly
what they were hoping for. 

"(They) essentially said, 'We don't have money to do it. If you want
to give us tax money to help us, we'll certainly let you do that,'"
Gotto said. 

The response came in a letter and delivered a sense of being snubbed. 

"They didn't even have the courtesy to have an individual sign it. So
that, to me, was kind of a slap in the face as well," said Gotto. 

More than anything, Gotto said he feels a company that has recorded
record profits this year should not ask citizens to pay for the
expensive paint job. 

"It's their infrastructure," he said. "It doesn't belong to the
taxpayers, it doesn't belong to the city, and I think it's ludicrous
for them to ask for the taxpayers to help them fund taking care of
their own infrastructure." 

There's little the council can do right now since the railroad isn't
breaking any existing ordinance, so Gotto is looking at creating one so
he won't have to look at the bridge. 

"I'm not going to give up," he said. "I really feel like they
should take care of this." 

CSX said bridge safety is their No. 1 priority and that most of their
maintenance money is devoted to that. There is a smaller pool of money
dedicated to beautification projects. 

But with more than 16,000 bridges nationwide, it's difficult to grant
all requests for aesthetic work. 

(This item was posted Nov. 18, 2008, by WSMV.com.)
 
November 18, 2008

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 November 2008

I over heard a conversation between 2 officials last week about the
revenue made from 1 loaded coal train, a 100 car train carrying around
14,000 tons is worth 1.5 million, wow, and these cheap bastards have
the nerve to rob us. the ones who are expected to load and move and do
paper work on this cash cow, any body that thinks this company feels
for you needs medicated, as for me, Ill medicate them(csx management)
as much as I can, mainly with loaded suppositories.

Name: Former NO&M Engineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 November 2008

I've always heard about this site but ironic as it may appear this is
actually my first time really reading alot of the posts here.
Nevertheless, I agree with a vast majority of what has been expressed
here regarding CSX. Some things mentioned here are wayyyy over the top
in delivery, but hilarious nevertheless. Well having said all of that I
FINALLY made the decision to resign from this company recently, and my
only regret thusfar is not submitting my resignation form 8 to 9 years
ago. If you work for this company then you already are fully aware of
the deplorable conditions/policies that you're subject to adhere to
from CSX, so I will not engage in any "last or final insults" or
anything of that nature....however I will say that there are "greener
pastures" else where and that you should begin to explore any
available options as ticket away from this place if you are truly
unhappy as I often was while at CSX.

Anyway I wish you all the best and good luck to all of you. If any NO&M
subdivision guys are reading this I enjoyed working with all of you and
hope that conditions improve for yall. Peace!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 November 2008

Exactly, you get paid time and a half if you work the yard but not the
road.  Does that make any sense?  CSX SUCKS!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 November 2008

Hey Loco 1-10:

That's one thing I could never quite get a grip on. Most other
industries pay at least time and a half on holidays.

It has been a while, but if I recall correctly, in yard service you
could claim a "holiday gift" if you wanted and still be home with
your family after a generous quit. In a lot of cases they would annul
the job for the day.

Road service is altogether a different story...no incentive for working
the holiday. CSX's answer is the availability policy and
they try to arrange it so the crews are home in time for Thanksgiving,
Christmas and maybe Easter.

CSX's management is their own worst enemy!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 November 2008

THE REAL QUESTION IS, WHY ARE THE GUYS EVEN FORCED TO BE OUT THERE ON A
HOLIDAY LIKE THANKSGIVING OR CHRISTMAS WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS
COUNTRY IS SHUT DOWN?  IF EVERTHING ELSE IS SHUT DOWN, AND YOU SHUT
DOWN WITH IT, NOBODY IS GOING TO FALL BEHIND.  IF THE COMPANY FORCES
YOU TO TRAVEL ON HOLIDAYS, WHY DON'T THEY COMPENSATE YOU JUST A LITTLE
MORE FOR NOT BEING WITH YOUR FAMILIES?  WE ALL KNOW CSX CHEAP.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 November 2008

loco 1-10 Really good point,
Why show up at 1800 and sit for 3'45. The reason is Shit happens.

I sat on christmas Morning in 1966 from 6.30am until 12.52 yes that is
6'22 minutes for a frozen train line. I remember it very well. Hungry,
Pissed, and nothing to do but live with it.

The Train moved when we should have been tieing up. Got paid for every
part of it, and my family suffered. It get's tough at times my friend.


No one on the RR in Transportation suffers as much as the family and
especially the kids. Just the way it is, need to feed them before we
can love them.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 November 2008

yes, you are right albert einstine, only black and white i thought it
was supposed to be diversified.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 November 2008

what managers are you talking about, you have got to see the picture
with the pink bunny, then you will know. it is fuuuuunnnnnnyyyyy. all
you need is a first name and a face i guess.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 November 2008

How come Csx calls trains for say 1800 and does not have you out of the
yard til say 2145? hmmmmmmm Mr Ingram where do you find your Managers
at?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 November 2008

The 5 minute management course 

      

  Lesson 1: 


A man is getting into the shower just as his wife is finishing up her
shower, when the doorbell rings. 

 
The wife quickly wraps herself in a towel and runs downstairs. 

 
When she opens the door, there stands Bob, the next-door neighbor. 

Before she says a word, Bob says, 'I'll give you $800 to drop that
towel.' 

 
After thinking for a moment, the woman drops her towel and stands naked
in front of Bob, after a few seconds, Bob hands her $800 and leaves. 

 The woman wraps back up in the towel and goes back upstairs. 

When she gets to the bathroom, her husband asks, 'Who was that?' 

'It was Bob the next door neighbor,' she replies. 

'Great,' the husband says, 'did he say anything about the $800 he
owes me?' 

 
Moral of the story:  



If you share critical information pertaining to credit and risk with
your shareholders in time, you may be in a position to prevent
avoidable exposure. 

 

 
Lesson 2: 

 
A priest offered a Nun a lift. 

 
She got in and crossed her legs, forcing her gown to reveal a leg. 

The priest nearly had an accident. 

 After controlling the car, he stealthily slid his hand up her leg. 

The nun said, 'Father, remember Psalm 129?' 

 
The priest removed his hand. But, changing gears, he let his hand slide
up her leg again. 

The nun once again said, 'Father, remember Psalm 129?' 

The priest apologized 'Sorry sister but the flesh is weak.' 
arriving at the convent, the nun sighed heavily and went on her way. 

On his arrival at the church, the priest rushed to look up Psalm 129.
It said, 'Go forth and seek, further up, you will find glory.' 


Moral of the story: 

If you are not well informed in your job, you might miss a great
opportunity. 

 

 

 

Lesson 3: 

A sales rep, an administration clerk, and the manager are walking to
lunch when they find an antique oil lamp. 
 
They rub it and a Genie comes out. 

The Genie says, 'I'll give each of you just one wish.' 

'Me first! Me first!' says the admin clerk. 'I want to be in the
Bahamas , driving a speedboat, without a care in the world.' 

Puff! She's gone. 

'Me next! Me next!' says the sales rep. 'I want to be in Hawaii ,
relaxing on the beach with my personal masseuse, an endless supply of
Pina Coladas and the love of my life.' 

Puff! He's gone. 

'OK, you're up,' the Genie says to the manager. 

The manager says, 'I want those two back in the office after lunch.


Moral of the story: 

Always let your boss have the first say. 

 

Lesson 4 


An eagle was sitting on a tree resting, doing nothing. 

A small rabbit saw the eagle and asked him, 'Can I also sit like you
and do nothing?' 

The eagle answered: 'Sure, why not.' 

So, the rabbit sat on the ground below the eagle and rested. All of a
sudden, a fox appeared, jumped on the rabbit and ate it. 

Moral of the story:  

To be sitting and doing nothing, you must be sitting very, very high
up. 

 

Lesson 5 
 

A turkey was chatting with a bull. 
 

'I would love to be able to get to the top of that tree' sighed the
turkey, 'but I haven't got the energy.' 

'Well, why don't you nibble on some of my droppings?' replied the
bull. They're packed with nutrients.' 

The turkey pecked at a lump of dung, and found it actually gave him
enough strength to reach the lowest branch of the tree. 
 

The next day, after eating some more dung, he reached the second
branch.
 

Finally after a fourth night, the turkey was proudly perched at the top
of the tree.

He was promptly spotted by a farmer, who shot him out of the tree. 


Moral of the story:  

Bull Crap might get you to the top, but it won't keep you there.. 

 



Lesson 6 


A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold the bird
froze and fell to the ground into a large field. 
 

While he was lying there, a cow came by and dropped some dung on him. 

As the frozen bird lay there in the pile of cow dung, he began to
realize how warm he was. 

 The dung was actually thawing him out! 

 
He lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to sing for joy. 

A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to investigate. 

 
Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of cow
dung, and promptly dug him out and ate him. 


Morals of the story: 

(1) Not everyone who craps on you is your enemy. 


(2) Not everyone who gets you out of crap is your friend.


(3) And when you're in deep crap, it's best to keep your mouth shut!






THUS ENDS THE FIVE MINUTE MANAGEMENT COURSE

Name: CSX BLOW
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 November 2008

Not supprised to hear about Milton NoMO! He has to be broke by now with
all the running for office he has done in the last few years.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 November 2008

It looks like Mikey Ward has dumped his CSX stock on November 5, 2008.
Anyone know the reason why?  We are talking major bucks. CSX has been
extremely good to Mikey. Go to CSX on the finance page. Pull up insider
transactions. Mikey will be having a great Christmas!!  How will yours
be?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 November 2008

Well even the gnashing of the teeth is over.

You can all sleep well tonight knowing that CSX Transportation
Supervisor (Yard Master) Milton Morrow lost his bid to become the
Mobile County Treasurer. He will therefore return to making CSX 
millions.

If I recall correctly, he's 0-2 running for elected office. He must be
dissatisfied with his present employer. What is amazing is that he got
74,345 votes!

C'est la vie!

Name: CSX BLOW
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 October 2008

Recived the thrid letter today in a 2 year period that CSX has over paid
me and they they will take back my money in 250$ incraments. The over
paid claim was for back in June. Now we can only go back 2 to 3 months
on our claims what gives them the right to go back further? LOL.... 
This company is such a joke! They dont pay you what youre intitled to
and then they come back and take what you were paid! Another good
reason to screw their eyes out at every chance given and feel good
about working for a company like this ( BTW thats sarcasim )!Just makes
me not want to even go to work anymore so I wont be treated like shit on
a daily basis and not have to worry about having a job when I come home
to my family.You know I wish somebody would blow the whistle on these
sons of bitches and go on FOX news and let the whole country know how
CSX really treats their employees! I cant do it because they are so
vindictive they would fire me. All you people who have been terminated
by this company should get together and do it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 October 2008

October 30, 2008 and CSX still SUCKS!  Some things will never change.

Name: run thru switch
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 October 2008

Farewell to the smartest trainmaster i have ever known Sir Rich Brown
(AKA)the hitchman u will be rarely missed in augusta hope things
workout for you in florence with daddy wolfey and little brother
guenther up there florence boys now is complete with the best
management team on the system you guys are AWESOME!! I hope you guys
will be around for a long time i have made more money this year than i
have ever made since being on the railroad i am 100% rules compliance i
love the rules you guys are coming up with just by chance is their a way
yall can come up with some more rules so i can get slower everyone wants
yall to leave i want yall to stay you guys are a clas act I LOVE YOU
GUYS!!!!!!!!! 

oh yeah rich how many years did you have to go to school to get that
culinary arts degree might be interested in carving some turkey or
baking a ham maybe you can give me some ideas!!!!!!!!!

          you will be missed rarely rich

Name: train masterbaitor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 October 2008

Hello, Letting everyone know that goober takes it in the ass from me
everyday!!! He is more than willing to suck my cock when it gets hard!!
GOOBER you are such a little suck ass so wipe the cum off your mouth!

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 October 2008

Any one know anything about these new thugs we have in the hu division?
scott connors,  brian stussy, adam hawkins, the last 2 are tm's.

Name: Cant Win
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 October 2008

My first post.  Henderson Division here lately its all crap.  I dont
understand how the company can just do what they want and Look you dead
in the eye and say i know i broke the agreement we have to do what we
have to do.  How can the utu just stand for that. I have come to the
conclusion that CSX can just do what they want with no regards to out
contract.  They know that the utu cant and wont do a dang thing about
it.  I just went to the utu website and looked at the photos of some of
the meetings man what nice places they have those meetings.  Guess who
pays for that.  WE DO.  What do we get, we get 4 jobs cut off the
evanville yard.  Im sorry if i mispelled some stuff im just so ticked
off.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 October 2008

Hearing Test.
Take the call and inform the caller of your hearing test, time and
date.
Call before your shift and inform crew mgt of your time and date for a
hearing test.

Let CSX call the shots, they will advise you, pay you, and make the
decision for you.

Get Smart.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 October 2008

Hey destroyer-Might wanna re-read the guys post again . He posted as
conducter 1-10,would that not mean he isn't an engineer re-certing?
And where in gods name is it in the rule books?And where does it say it
needs done before July?Same rule book I suppose? Just playing devils
advocate. All T&E employees are to take mandatory hearing tests per the
FRA.Might wanna re-read the paper work notifying you of this. As far as
the 3 hours pay I agree it sucks when you have to mark off to get this
done,Mine was scheduled on day off,went to appointment(lasted one hour
maybe) while in town and spent rest of day with spouse,kinda had dinner
out at companys expense.

Name: Joe 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 October 2008

hey dude. Hearing tests are so that CSX can screw us out of any hearing
disability we get down the road.  lets face it. after working 30 years
on this railroad anyone who aint got a hearing problem is either
working in corporate all their life, or they were born without ears, or
your just too deaf to give a damn anymore and just waitin for the
pension to kick in.  

sure. rob the guy his 5 hours for taking a company hearing test.  then
get laid off if you dont pass.  smells like shit to me.

Name: The Destroyer
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 15 October 2008

If he was taking a required hearing test would that not imply he is in
recertification?

Does the rule book say that this is done before July?

He gets driving miles to and from that required test.  He is told where
to take it.

The contract was violated?  He's lucky he wasn't held out of service
three months ago.

Gotta be the devil's advocate occasionaly to stay objective people.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 October 2008

Hey Goober,

Take the time to READ posts before you reply... that guy said he missed
his turn to work.  In case you can't comprehend that, I'll try to use
small words... he should have worked 8 hours and would have gotten paid
for 8 hours.  Instead, he took a FRA REQUIRED hearing exam and got paid
3 hours... if you're still not following, 3 is less than 8.  That
means that required exam COST him 5 hours pay!!!  This isn't the first
time I've heard this... a couple of guys in my terminal had the same
thing happen to them.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 October 2008

Mr hearing Test,
Darn hate that when it happens, only 3 hours paid for a hearing test,
wonder how long it took to go take that puppy 3 or 4 hours driving, a
few meals, a motel, a few hours for the test, and a return trip to the
old adobe. Heck fire it should have been 3 days at least. Turn in more
time, the union will get it for ya. Remember the contract says time
consumed x Infinity?
GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 October 2008

I've now heard three different times around Avon that former
Trainmaster of the Year(Corporate Suckass) Tom Cook was caught
embezzling funds.  Anyone know the real scoop ??????????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 October 2008

Just printed my latest statement of earnings and... surprise, a denied
claim.  Had to mark off to take the FRA mandated hearing exam and
missed work, so put in my 8 hour claim for wages lost.  DENIED... they
paid me 3 hours, saying that's all we're entitled to.  What's the
point in having a fucking contract when it's never adhered to???

Name: Ben Demover
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 October 2008

As to the previous post.

WTF ???????

Looks good on paper, it was lost somewhere in the application.


Have an ethical CSX Day.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A
Posted: 02 October 2008

Responsibility: Workplace

"Our success as a company begins with how we treat one another at
work. We sustain an ethical culture by treating our co-workers with
respect and dignity."

- Tony Ingram, Chief Operating Officer, CSX Transportation



Safety
We have rules. We have procedures. We have Personal Protective
Equipment. Every single employee is tested and certified on their
knowledge and practice. LEARN MORE


Diversity
We respect differences, we reward teamwork, and we treasure and
capitalize on talent wherever we find it. 


Training
Talent and potential are in every part of our organization. Our mission
is to spot it, develop it, and help the people who possess it to make
the most of it - for their benefit and for ours.

Name: Bozo
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 September 2008

Where your denials go, to pay the salary of the top dgos at CSX:

KEY EXECUTIVES   
  Pay Exercised 
Mr. Michael J. Ward , 58
Chairman, Chief Exec. Officer, Pres, Chairman of Exec. Committee, Chief
Exec. Officer of CSX Transportation Inc. and Pres of CSX Transportation
Inc $ 2.08M $ 940.00K 
Mr. Oscar Munoz , 49
Chief Financial Officer, Exec. VP, Chief Financial Officer of CSX
Transportation Inc. and Exec. VP of CSX Transportation Inc N/A  N/A 
Ms. Ellen M. Fitzsimmons , 47
Sr. VP of Public Affairs & Law, Corp. Sec., Gen. Counsel and Sr. VP of
Law & Public Affairs - CSX Transportation $ 774.00K $ 1.65M 
Mr. Tony Ingram , 61
Chief Operating Officer of CSX Transportation Inc and Exec. VP of CSX
Transportation Inc N/A  N/A 
Mr. Clarence W. Gooden , 56
Chief Commercial Officer, Exec. VP of Sales and Marketing, Chief
Commercial Officer of CSX Transportation Inc and Exec. VP of CSX
Transportation Inc $ 882.00K $ 2.05M 
 
 
Dollar amounts are as of 31-Dec-07 and compensation values are for the
last fiscal year ending on that date. "Pay" is salary, bonuses, etc.
"Exercised" is the value of options exercised during the fiscal year.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 September 2008

THAT DUDE WAS SUPPOSEDLY STANDING IN THE GAGE NO RADIO OR LANTERN
SUPPOSEDLY THE TRAIN WAS BLOWING THROUGH CROSS BUCKS RIGHT BEFORE THE
INCIDENT

Name: Ben Demover
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 September 2008

Denied a 2 hour shove claim after riding a car almost 2 miles through a
town over 5 highway grade crossings.  Also denied a valid runaround
claim.  Took the crew behind me on a deadhead home because the engineer
had to get back to be a witness at some investagation.

Rick Reed, you and the band of retards at payroll are nothing but a
pieces of crap in workboots and khakis.

Name: Ben Demover
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 September 2008

Newsflash,  Unless he moved again.  Kurt Miles is an Asst. Terminal
Super in Chicago.  Albeit, he was pretty straight up when he was down
in the Avon area, you had better be on his good side or he'll put it
to ya like a house cat.  100% rules compliant; if it takes 12 hours to
move one car, you've done well young Skywalker.

Have an ethical CSX day.

PS  CSX is to ethics what V.D. is to love.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 September 2008

Ugly Stik:

Kurt Miles?  He's a former trainmaster from Philly... actually a
pretty good guy.  Always seemed to be fair.  If that's him, you should
be ok.

Name: Ugly Stik
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 September 2008

Hey there,

Has anyone heard of the new Road Foreman of Engines in Birmingham. 
Suppose to be working on the Lineville side.  They say his name is Kurt
*****?.  What's his name?  They say he's Joel "RA RA" Hudson's
brother in law.  Is this a ethical policy violation?  Where'd he come
from, the jail cells of New Orleans?  Also, it was said that Tom May is
Joel Hudson's father in law.  Is this True?  ANYONE KNOW THESE PEOPLE?

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 September 2008

LE 1-10
Listen, keep those ears on, and you will have a long career, with good
benefits.
You have your side, and I can see your feelings. You are laying them
out, right or wrong they are yours.
Now let's evaluate them. You will always have to deal with those that
you favor and those that you do not. If handled correctly you will have
more on your side than on the negative side.
You can build a support system, for yourself thru your efforts, and the
comments from others.
You may feel that what they think of you means little to you. This may
be the difference between where you are now, and where you might be in
a few years.
Really simple. If you are comfortable, and things are working well for
you NOW, make no changes. If things are not what you want, make a
change or two, it can go your way. Open those ears and learn as you go,
personal relationships are Very Important. 
The very best part is You do not have to like them, nor do you have to
trust them, however they must think that you do like and trust them. It
is not dishonest, it is just called NICE.

GOOFY 
Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 September 2008

Goober,

The point is that it can go both ways out here.  Some trainmasters
that
have worked in the crafts know what it means when it comes to a pay
shortage.  Some trainmasters only care about there bonuses and will
not
help you one bit.  Myself, you couldn't pay me to trust management at
CSX, I would rather fight for my money with my LC rather than ask
management for a favor; they have screwed me one too many times.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 September 2008

Goober,

The point is that it can go both ways out here.  Some trainmasters that
have worked in the crafts know what it means when it comes to a pay
shortage.  Some trainmasters only care about there bonuses and will not
help you one bit.  Myself, you couldn't pay me to trust management at
CSX, I would rather fight for my money with my LC rather than ask
management for a favor; they have screwed me one too many times.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 September 2008

Look back for 2 really great posts.

LE 10-20 10/9/2008
LE 1-10  11/9/2008

The 10-30 Engineer is trying very hard to explain how things work for
them. Question the move (if necessary)Know and understand the Tm's
thought process, and gain from the learned knowledge.

The 1-10 Engineer dismisses everything that was said and falls back on
Mtg bonus, Union rep will handle it ETC

I find this interesting, -----Some times you Eat the Bear---and
sometimes--- the Bear Eats You.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 September 2008

Has anyone heard who the new road foremans are and where they are going?
Hope we dont get another jackass....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 September 2008

Okay, Good luck with your claims. Like you said. You fight for them to
be paid :) Mine will get paid next week without question. I once waited
over two years to get a claim paid because I let my Conductor go through
the union and fight for it while I stood by to let him learn his lesson.
I have never called my local chairman to get a claim paid. It's really
not his job anyway although I know he will take on that responsibility.
They end up talking to the Trainmaster in the end. They just don't tell
you that they had to suck up to somebody to get it paid :)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 September 2008

I don't suck up to any trainmaster to get my claims paid.  They don't
pay them because they get a big bonus in the long run.  I don't bargin
to find out what claims they are willing to pay either because I know
what claims are valid and what I am entitled. Put in your claims and if
they don't get paid, you turn them into your local chairman, and he
sends them into labor relations.  I fight for every claim!  
  You have to think about what you said.  Your telling the trainmaster
that your not gonna do the job because they don't pay the claim?  He
can still order you to do that job no matter what, and telling him your
not gonna do it can be considered insubordination.  I have a local
chairman that does his job!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 September 2008

Something to think about. If I put in a valid claim and it later gets
denied, I immediately realise that this particular Trainmaster really
does not want me to perform that particular task. If told on a later
date to perform this same task again, I simply remind them that it
won't get paid so therefore I am not doing it again. This almost
always prompts the Trainmaster to say "Just put it in, I will pay it"
(That is, if they really need it done)It has never failed for me that
when I ask approval from the Trainmaster before performing the task and
then claiming the claim, It always gets paid. Don't ever be fooled by a
Yardmaster or anyone else that your claim will be paid. Talk directly to
the Trainmaster and get approval to perform the task with the
understanding that you will claim the penalty claim. Then inform them
immediately when you put the claim in on the 03 screen as a reminder
that they agreed to pay this claim and watch how easy it is to get your
claims paid. Get to know your Trainmaster, find out which claims that
they are willing to pay and not willing to pay. (This is easy, just
ask!) If they are not willing to pay certain claims then they will
understand that you will not perform them just the same. Follow my
advise and you will see. In fact! Copy my post and hand it to any
Trainmaster and ask them if they disagree with anything I have written
here. Most important... You have to talk to the Trainmaster yourself.
Don't trust a yardmaster or clerk when he or she tells you to do it
and put the claim in later. Your pay is approved by the Trainmaster!
This includes all penalty claims. Don't surprise them after the fact.
It's a 99% chance your claim will be denied due to a lack of
understanding.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 September 2008

September 9, 2008 & CSX STILL SUCKS!!!

This website is great!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 September 2008

It's back. This was a long shutdown.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 August 2008

Corman's helicopter flying over short line yesterday

Name: dork
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 August 2008

Pete,,,did you ever think they just want to look at your johnson
rod??they don't care about the pee..they just want to see how you are
hung..if you are big enough you can go to jacksonoff ville for the
annual circle jerk..it lasts all year so you don't have to worry about
being late.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 August 2008

Under the new FRA guidelines for post incident and short notice testing
under the EAP the requirements are to disrobe and be under constant
observation while urinating. Seven rail unions and the BNSF (the only
railroad) is filing papers stating this is a violation of the 4th
Amendment for illegal search. This is your goverment in action under G
W Bush since he appointed the administration of the FRA. The loss of
freedom since his presidency is staggering. McCain would be just more
of the same. Vote this November if your not registered do it. This
country is going down the drain fast.

Name: piss test pete
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 August 2008

What is with the post below about them watching the urine coming out of
your penis????  Is this the rules?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 August 2008

I am so proud to see most of my fellow employees not kidding themselves
about how goddamned poorly CSX treats their employees! CSX management
reeks of a mean-spirited stupidity. How many times have we heard,
"They make money inspite of themselves!"? In my own personal
experience (and that is fairly broad), I have never felt so
unappreciated and taken advantage of as I have working here. Cutting
jobs, getting beaten by Payroll. Weak-ass UTU won't do anything for
you. Asshole management trying to fire you over piddling bullshit just
to make themselves look good! Bastards hiding in the bushes to see if
you're using a brake stick and them firing you if you didn't because
you would have had to walk a mile to go get one! Safety pricks trying
to make their quotas and go home and not seeing the forest for the
trees. Government wanting to fine you for making mistakes that you
wouldn't have made if you hadn't been called out on short rest or at
3 o'clock at night in the pouring rain... and now forcing us to
actually allow them to see the urine come out of our penises! Talk
about sexual harrassment! I think you are all some of the best, hardest
working guys I have ever met and this company should bend over backwards
to kiss each of your asses! But we all know these sorry, greedy bastards
will take each of us for granted until the day we retire, are fired, get
slightly hurt or permanently killed, or simply ran off 'cause we can't
take the bullshit any longer. I hope God greatly blesses each of you for
the misery you have had to endure from this company on a daily basis...
and that fat, lazy slob of an engineer's wife and Tony Ingram fan can
shut
her ignorant mouth.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 August 2008

I do not see why we can not get paid for the work we perform... Last pay
period I claimed a code 75 we crewed our train outside of terminal
limits and to the train on to chicago. They paid it then this half they
took the pay back. The reason they have is claimed on wrong division
well where we got on was nashville and at our terminal it turns to
chicago. I clamind it under nashville i just want to get payed for my
work not like they dont have the money.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 August 2008

the l@n is like the south ,it wont rise again

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 August 2008

loco 1-10
 your youth is showing everyone knows that coal is,was,and always will
be the backbone of the csxt,and it flows mostly over the c&o

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 August 2008

FUCK THE B&O, THE C&O, THE SCL AND WHOEVER WANTS TO RUN WITH IT; IT'S
THE L&N THAT IS THE FUCKING BACK BONE OF CSX...TRY TO CONTEST

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 August 2008

Its Wednesday August 13, 2008 and CSXT still SUCKS!

Name: htla
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 August 2008

annd mikey hedge fund ward sells off another sub...thank god he is still
the ceo...............and not tcf

Name: B&O hogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 August 2008

It's official now.......Grafton and Parkersburg will be leased to
R.J.Corman Railroad before the end of the year.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 August 2008

Hey Pops, Watching the fools is just a cyber blowhard like BR Boggs. Got
nothing. Getting none. Only friend is the ol' hand cart. He never
marked up a single day so just ignore him. Any one with the income he
claims who wastes his time on this site is a liar-period. He is one of
those kind you see the Air Marshals escorting off Southwest flights. Go
flog the mule 7 or 8 times Fool , then you'll be able to go to sleep.
HAR HAR!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 August 2008

Watching the Fools, 

Dammit, you chastise someone for their use of words then turn around
and do the same. Who's the fool? I've seen TM's come and go. I'm
still here. I play the silly games they require you to dish out and
work by 100% rules compliance. One thing that has greatly changed we
don't make decisions anymore there has always been an easy way and a
hard way of doing things ya'll haven't figured out the easy way it
makes me money. Hiring management off the street or hiring those with a
year on the RR was a stupid move. I guess upper management thinks they
can mold ya'll into their obscure way of thinking. Hiring practices
with this quick be a conductor in less than 3 months mentality you get
what you pay for an it shows. Oldheads make money with our knowledge
the OT is just handed to us so we can bail the railroad out. The
railroad will be in dire straits when we retire the fault lands in
managements lap.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 August 2008

My grammar and spelling isn't that good. It gets the point across.
That's what matters. I see quite a few people from the airline
industry trying to get hired on the railroad because of lay offs the
pitfalls of oil prices and poor management. I have nothing against
Southwest it's a good airline I use them to fly to Arizona at least
twice a year.

Name: Watching The Fools
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 August 2008

APE...is your sister at Southwest must be like the guy's wife you wrote
about in another post i read that you made earlier today. on her knees
for those nickel blow jobs.  i heard it ran in your family from a
yardmaster that you work with.

you people never cease to amaze me as to how stupid and silly you are
with these postings.  i wonder how a lot of you guys had sense enough
to pass the test to go to work for CSX.

i have a simple fix for your problem..go to work somewhere
else...simple enough for you...i hope....however, i have my doubts.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 August 2008

Other , I sure didn't see you post the correct "they're" either. Go
hire on at Southwest if you think you have a chance. My sister has 19
years there. The only reason they make money is management. They treat
folks decent. Not top heavy in management either like AA, UA,Delta, NW,
etc. I doubt if they would be interested in you . They have plenty of
applicants who don't prowl the web looking to stir up shit like you.
They'd smoke you out in the personality test. Just another no name, no
job, no prospects cyberspace loser. Wish ol' Herb would come out of
retirement and take over CSX. He could make this place profitable and
enjoyable again.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 August 2008

Plus, they get free flight benefits and can use the word "their" in a
sentence correctly, unlike you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 August 2008

Southwest has never laid anyone off and has made a profit for the last
30 plus years...can your beloved railroad say that???

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 August 2008

That's a good one!!! The airline industry their real stable?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 August 2008

southwest airlines is hiring. better benefits!!!

Name: ha ha
E-mail: lickmynuts@csx.blows
Employed as: CSX Contractor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 August 2008

you go no body- after taxes, ins, union sucks cut, and old farts cut,
thats all you will have left, change. all we have is seniority and a
contract, and its obvious, csx wont honor either. and btw- csx
management sucks, the job itself is great.  and yea i dun it, i posted
in every forum, so go ahead and lick my nuts!

Name: Noh Bodi
E-mail: hammerhead_73@hotmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 July 2008

If working for CSX sucks soooo badly, the doors are open. Nothing is
keeping you from getting another job.  If its as bad as this site says,
just quit. Also, this is a free country. ever heard of eminent domain?
If you're not happy with the rules or policies, try to CHANGE them. On
a side note, I even considered employment with CSX. I saw this site and
went to it with an open mind to see both sides of the arguement. I may
still try to get a job with them. maybe i can work for some CHANGE

Name: concerned conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 July 2008

Hey Caring Trainmaster, 

You might want to check on DICK REED out of Avon Yard, IN. (Now he has
been demoted to line of road because he screwed up the yard so much)  

He tried to order a friend engineer of mine on a work train recrew to
move his two engines to opposite ends of the train, then have the
conductor ride on the second engine with his foot on the dead man pedal
so it wouldn't go off because they couldn't disable it. It was screwed
up and would throw them in penalty even in trail. 

So much for you saying us dumb shits get hurt for not following the
rules.

Name: austin
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 July 2008

csx is the best and when i growup i went to drive a csx

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 July 2008

July 29, 2008 & CSX STILL SUCKS!!!!

Name: BoxcarBob@ Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 July 2008

Well I guess you said it all baby.  The reason that they have all these
checks and counter checks is because their training policy is so lame
that they have no confidence that anyone knows what to actually do.

The supervisors sure don't and its easy to tell just look at the lack
of experience they show.  Mindless storm troopers from a nazi youth
league who may not understand how to get the work done just how to run
your ass ragged with all these foolish mandates.

Not to worry.  I would just reccommend strike at many different
locations starting with the albany service lane and working its way
across CSX.  That's Crummy, Shitty and Xcessive Today and everyday.

Name: lloyd christmas
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 July 2008

10 dumbest rules CSX has.

1.  You can release that 3-step..Im in the clear of all track.
    As opposed to, you can release that 3-step, im in the middle of the
track, shove on back and put me out of my fucking misery.

2.  Tie those hand brakes and test them.
Well, holy shit idiots, if you put the hand brakes on the cars then I
would suppose that they work if they are on right?

3.  Calling signals.
Gee dispatcher, if you gave us a green fucking signal I guess that
means its okay to proceed right?  

4.  Wearing safety glasses IN THE LOCOMOTIVE.
Just what exactly is going to fly in our eyes...we can't exactly
protect our eyes from that burning sensation we sometimes get because
the fucking bathroom smells so horrendous.

5.  Marking off on weekends.
Dont you fucking assholes realize that people actually have lives and
would like to see their kids at some point before they are old and out
of the house?

6.  Watching shoving movements whether you can see the end of your
train..or not. 
Are you fucking retards serious?  If some dumb piece of shit wants to
randomly walk behind my shove when I can see the end of my cut, he
probably just needs to get ran over anyway.  

7.  Requesting radio check before starting communication.
Well gee George, I guess we must all be fucking retards out here. 
Maybe if someone doesn't respond that could mean you don't have a
good radio.  

8.  Putting the T at the end of CSX.  
Really, what the fuck does it matter?  Are you assholes really running
out of things to fuck with people about or do you want to enforce this
rule on a certain day because someone wiped their ass with your
toothbrush.

9.  Calling stop every 15 minutes.
Are you idiots serious?  Who's fault is it in the first place if we
have a red signal?  If you fuckers can't run trains right then don't
expect us to suffer because of it.  You try calling stop every 15
minutes for 4 hours and see just how ridiculous it is.  Guess what dumb
shits, you know where we are and it doesn't need to be announced.

10. Walking 25 feet in front of the engines before crossing.
Honestly, do you officials really think that we are going to cross in
front of a moving engine unless we have a death wish?

I sure do love making overtime from all your stupid fucking rules. I
also love how your payroll fucks everyone for every nickel and dime
they can so this company can keep that stock and profit up.  Keep
fucking with us CSX because we are all on the brink of saying enough is
enough.  It will be highly entertaining to see all those trains without
any engineers or conductors for about 2 weeks.  Bring on the strike
baby.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 July 2008

The only paper I'm interested in is cash... cold hard cash.  The stuff
that according to our "contract" we are entitled to, but aren't
given.  "Research", "Denied"... it's a big f'n joke!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 July 2008

Cond 1-10, That's CSX paper your wasting. So, add the cost of the paper
it all adds up to CSX paper being wasted. Don't just put in the claim
make three copies for various files. Personally I'd like to have the
paper rights to just one crew room it would make at least a mortgage
payment per month. Look at the cost overall it gets expensive. So, keep
filing those claims it's not costing you a dime just a little time.

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 July 2008

There is no such thing on CSX.  Everyone feels the same way.  Moronic
decisions that try to hide the true nature of the operations with
service and on time failures covered up.  

Liars figure and CSX management is full of liars.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 July 2008

Just opened an email from my local... of all the claims submitted for
review after they were initially denied, guess how many actually got
paid?  One... one lonely 8 hour claim out of how many?  What's the
point of having a contract that the company never honors?  What's the
point of putting in claims, watching them get denied, giving copies of
those claims (along with copies of switchlists, etc. that support said
claim) to your union, just to see them shot down again?  Wasting a lot
of time and paper for nothing.

Name: Tom Landry
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 July 2008

if you are looking for fairness here in the Syracuse terminal or any
where on the Albany Division forget it.  Nick Male the Terminal Manager
is an inexperienced idiot who is afraid of his own shadow.  The
supervisors here that were left over from Conrail will either conform
to the Nazi Youth League activities or be moved aside.  

On time performance and customer service is the biggest joke on CSX at
this spot.  Male and his trainmasters just tell the yardmasters to mark
every train out of the terminal on time.  let the crews explain why
there are delays.  It's the perfect solution for incompetent children
of corporate officers.  Just lie your way through to your next job.  Oh
yea and make sure that you excel in bushwacking.  Those are the ways
they get extr points from Adolph and the boys.

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 July 2008

Just wanted to let some of you guys know that the UTU DIPP Fund does pay
without a transcript.  On the form it says that a transcript "may" be
required.  I have only had one instance when they made a request to me
for a transcript and even that did not delay payment of the benefits. 
All the other times they paid with a simple copy of the discipline
letter.  They also paid when a waiver is signed unlike BRCF or LMPCA
who consider a waiver an admission of guilt.

Yes they do have the 11 deadly sins just like the rest of them but
after a couple of violations they (UTU) won't drop you like the others
always do. 

Those other forms of job insurance are now about to make changes that
involve not paying violations of some of the critical incident rules
and there again, the UTU DIPP Fund still pays those, including red
board violations.  You are not getting the whole story as I read it
here.

Name: Throttle Puller
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 July 2008

Work safe ya'll....who cares about their IDAPT or whatever it is.  Just
slow down, work by THEIR rules and open those pockets up.

You know, when I went to work for the railroad (L&N) 30 years ago, on
my very 1st day cubbing with a switch engine crew at Murfreesboro TN.
the conductor told me "son, keep your mouth shut, ears open and do
what they say, never offer any suggestions of a "quicker" way to do
things and they'll fill your pockets up."  You know, Mr. Jim was
right.  That was the best advice I've ever been given since I started
at the railroad.

30 years later, I still adhere to those words.

Be Safe...and hold those pockets open.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 July 2008

For starters, there is only one member of TCI that is going to be on
that board, the other three aren't employed by them.  Second, they won
four seats which doesn't even come close to giving them an upper hand. 
I'm willing to bet that you won't see the changes everyone is wishing
for.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 July 2008

It's out, TCI got four seats on the board...........

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 July 2008

BoxCar Bob
You said it well, however you still pay up??? WTF

GOOFY

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 July 2008

Good information on this site for all railroaders.  See how your
officers function for their own benefit. 


http://www.freewebs.com/savetheutu/index.htm

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 12 July 2008

the new IDPAP policy that was just put out by management on CSX was a
real example of how the union general chairmen have become lackies to
the company.  this policy is supposed to be ajoint labor/management
effort with an oversight committee of GC's.  CSX made the changes in
the policy and never even gave the union a chance to discuss the
changes.  Talk about deballing the General Chairman.  If old Terry Reed
was sitting in Jacksonville that wouldn't have happened.  I remember
when he wrote the policy with Ken Pieffer and had control of this
thing.  Now its just another tool for the managers to beat yo over the
head.  The changes for us transportation people were a joke while the
other crafts whether it is mechanical or whatever all have better
policies and far more input then the utu or the ble.  It is just
transportation and their rrepresentation taking up the ass again. Once
again the General Chairmen and Vice Presidents assigned to CSX fall far
short of doing a good job protecting us.  Thanks boys.

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 12 July 2008

the new IDPAP policy that was just put out by management on CSX was a
real example of how the union general chairmen have become lackies to
the company.  this policy is supposed to be ajoint labor/management
effort with an oversight committee of GC's.  CSX made the changes in
the policy and never even gave the union a chance to discuss the
changes.  Talk about deballing the General Chairman.  If old Terry Reed
was sitting in Jacksonville that wouldn't have happened.  I remember
when he wrote the policy with Ken Pieffer and had control of this
thing.  Now its just another tool for the managers to beat yo over the
head.  The changes for us transportation people were a joke while the
other crafts whether it is mechanical or whatever all have better
policies and far more input then the utu or the ble.  It is just
transportation and their rrepresentation taking up the ass again. Once
again the General Chairmen and Vice Presidents assigned to CSX fall far
short of doing a good job protecting us.  Thanks boys.

Name: sum dude
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 July 2008

has anybody reviewed the new idpap policy? i mean i may be new to this
company but it does not take me long to catch on to company policys and
how the company operates. now i have read it, and it seems that csx is
playing real hardball. i was reading the major offensives, and correct
me if im wrong, but majority of the things that u can get taken out of
service, now you can get terminated?? i mean lets say that union
representation was there and probably couldnt do to much about  it, i
think that more people will lose their jobs. for example, for a derail,
and im not sure if its in the yard or on the line of road, but you be
terminated, instead of being out of service. like i said please
somebody   correct me if im wrong, or if somebody can explain it to me
thoroughly.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 July 2008

Also, if the claims are denied, without explanation they are
automatically paid.  Time to get the LC on it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 July 2008

ARTICLE 48 YARD SERVICE PLAINLY STATES   ENGINEERS HELD ON DUTY AND
REQUIRED TO WORK MORE THAN (30) MINUTES BEYOND THE  EIGHT HOUR TOUR OF
DUTY CONTEMPLATED IN PARAGRAPH B ABOVE WHEN WORKING AN ASSIGNMENT THAT
IS RELIEVED BY A CREW ON A LIKE ASSIGNMENT ON THE NEXT SHIFT USING THE
SAME ENGINES WILL BE PAID A BASIC DAYS PAY ABOVE AND BEYOND THE
EARNINGS OF THEIR ASSSIGNMENT..  THESE CLAIMS ARE BEING APPROVED BY
LOCAL MANAGEMENT AND CREW MAGEMENT AND BEING DENIED BY PAYROLL.WHY

Name: dragline
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 July 2008

Remember this kind of crap and work 100% compliance only! That comes out
to $1,258,200 for some of you new hires.

CSX director sells shares at hefty profit
A director of freight railroad company CSX exercised options for 20,000
shares of common stock, according to a Securities and Exchange
Commission filing and the Miami Herald.

CSX is based in Jacksonville.

In a Form 4 filed with the SEC Friday (June 27), William C. Richardson
reported he exercised the options on Wednesday for $13.21 to $20.63
apiece and then sold all 20,000 shares on the same day for $62.91
apiece.

(This item appeared July 1, 2008, in the Miami Herald.)
July 1, 2008

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 June 2008

too close to call, hmmmmmmmm sounds like Florida all over again! Good I
hope the two hedge funds did succeed in obtaining 4 seats on the Board
of Directors. Maybe this will send a strong message that we're tired
of being pissed on, denied legitimate claims, harassed by its
incompitent officials, and threatened with our jobs to adhere to an
unfair attendance policy that doesn't take into account the numerous
hours we spend rotting away in a 1/2 star hotel at the away from home
terminal (while usually working an average of 10-12 hours going down
and back).

Since the inception of the remote controls they've eliminated many
jobs for my craft on the entire system, and have forced many like
myslef to work the extra-board who routinely cover road, converted
remote, and extra yard assignments while some 1-2 years neon green hat
wearing son of a bitch is able to regular hold a daylight yard
assignment with weekends off! Yet, these bastards have the audacity to
flood my mailbox with 30 million WHITE proxy forms, basicly requesting
that I help save the jobs of 5 present board members whom in my eyes
have contributed to the current state of this company that often pisses
on me! I believe they truly forget that we are the people who literally
makes this company progress and move, and yet inturn we are treated
like shit on many days and levels!

Furthermore, from my current understanding the new hires no longer have
to pay for school and their benefits and pay starts from the first day
of class. I haven't heard of any talks from management trying to
reimburse at least a portion of the 4-5K we spent just to attend school
alone......excluding the cost of hotel, food, and current bills you have
while enrolled @ Choo-Choo U! Nevertheless, this isn't an attack on the
new hire employees it's not their fault, they just got here and walked
into this situation.

I hope the news of the 4 seats is true, because this current regime or
administration is in desperate need of replacement. Hopefully 4 gone,
and more to come over the next few years!

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 June 2008

the old tradition of the engineer being the highest paid on the crew
wont fly with this bunch of vagabons (sp) I hope they are voted out
although they have already raped the company to fend for their
"unemployment" lol

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 June 2008

Great planning and representation by the BLE. The most experienced
person on the train is paid the less. LC's vote the GC's out, if you
have a spine.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 June 2008

Pop's,

I tried to join the BMWE seeing they belong to the IBT rail conference
they told me the same they didn't want to take other unions members
but couldn't find any reason why I couldn't join. So, Yeah, it's
being black balled. 

Claims? What are they? The moritorium has been up since april there's
been no word of any LR conference to get them paid. 

Just think Pop's by July we'll be the lowest paid person on the
train. The new UTU contract will have conductors making over $200 a day
at the base rate in '09. I did hear a funny joke someone asked "isn't
there a clause that states the engineer has to be the highest paid
person?". I just love a good sense of humor. 

Sonny

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 June 2008

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 June 2008

Nope, your only choices are the BLET an UTU. I tried to join another
one
seeing under the CSX/BLET SSA engineers became a closed shop.

  View This Article

I cant say that your only legal choices are ble or utu, but I will say
when I requested to join the carmans, and signalmans unions, I was told
that they didnt want to be taking members from other rail unions so yes
its  basicly that you are black balled.

to bad our general chairman have crossed over to managements side I
hope they choke on the perks they were rewarded.....like menefee, and
terry wells ,it will be awful hot for a long long time for them so let
them enjoy themselves now.

any word about collecting the ssa penalty claims, now that our
"moratorium" is over ?????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 June 2008

Mike Ward's end of days is here.  The vote in the swamp commences
today.  All I can say is sell your stock now.  No matter who wins, the
looser will be dumping his stock!


Wall street journal article:




Vote '08: CSX vs. Activists?Railroad's Investors to Choose Their
Course?By ALEX ROTH?June 25, 2008;?Page?C3?CSX Corp. and two activist
hedge funds with big stakes in the railroad company have bickered for
months -- over past performance, profit potential, plans for capital
investment and even how to interpret the company's balance
sheet.?They've fought to a de facto impasse in federal court over
securities law.?They've even argued about the location of the annual
shareholder meeting, a New Orleans railyard that CSX calls a showpiece.
The investors have labeled it "a swamp."?Now, shareholders are
scheduled to decide Wednesday morning whether to give five of 12 CSX
board seats to candidates offered by The Children's Investment Fund
and 3G Capital Partners LP, the activist hedge funds that control at
least 8.7% of the company's stock. Through so-called stock swaps, the
funds have an economic interest in a substantial additional block
totaling more than 11% of CSX shares.?The proxy vote comes at a pivotal
time in the railroad industry. Trains in the U.S. are undergoing a boom
not seen in decades, spurred in part by railroads' fuel-efficiency
advantages over trucking and their ability to bypass the country's
increasingly clogged highways.?Big-name investors such as Warren
Buffett and Carl Icahn have taken sizable positions in some of the
U.S.'s biggest railroads, including Burlington Northern Santa Fe
Corp., and Union Pacific Corp. Stock prices have soared. Since the end
of 2002, the Dow Jones Wilshire U.S. Railroads Index has increased
nearly 240%. By comparison, the Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 Composite Index
is up roughly 61% over the same period.?Last year, TCI, headed by London
financier Christopher Hohn, began accumulating shares of CSX, which
operates a 21,000-mile rail network in 23 states, mostly in the eastern
U.S. The company reported $2.3 billion in operating income in 2007.
Roughly half its revenue comes from freight such as agricultural
products, crushed stone and metal; a quarter comes from transporting
coal.?CSX management says the company is performing well and needs no
infusion of outside leadership on its board. The stock has more than
tripled under the leadership of Chief Executive Michael Ward, who took
the helm in 2003.?But critics such as TCI contend the company trails
industry rivals in key measures, including productivity and operating
expenses -- which the company disputes. After amassing a position in
CSX through stock purchases and stock swaps, TCI eventually joined
forces with 3G, based in New York. The funds announced plans to
nominate a slate of five candidates to the CSX board and launched a
public-relations war against the Jacksonville, Fla., railroad
company.?CSX has responded by accusing the funds of having little
understanding of railroad issues and being reluctant to make necessary
capital investments for the company's long-term needs. "I think their
real intention is to suck cash out of the company...then sell out and
leave somebody else to clean up the mess," Mr. Ward said.?Snehal R.
Amin, one of TCI's founding partners, says that CSX isn't nearly as
profitable or efficient as it should be given that the industry is in
the midst of what analysts are calling "the railroad
renaissance."?Mr. Ward also defended the choice of location for the
shareholder meeting -- the company's Gentilly Yard in New Orleans. The
hedge funds accused CSX of deliberately staging the meeting at an
inconvenient location. "They put it in the middle of a swamp in New
Orleans," Mr. Amin said.?Mr. Ward said the company chose that location
to show off how the yard has been rebuilt since Hurricane Katrina in
2005. He said the meeting will take place in an air-conditioned
tent.?In addition to their slate of board nominees, the funds want
shareholders to amend the company's bylaws to make it easier to call
special meetings. Mr. Amin said the two funds won't push for
significant management changes should their slate join the
board.?"There's value in the stability of management here and we
appreciate that," Mr. Amin said. "What we want is a board that can
actively engage with management."?Write to Alex Roth at
alex.roth@wsj.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 June 2008

Word around the campfire at rocky mount is that the TMs have covered up
at least 6 run thru switches this year.

Where does Wolf find these people?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2008

Poor Josh Claus has been shipped off to Baltimore!! Hope your nuts
freeze and fall off,oh wait your a nutless piece of work anyway arent
ya?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2008

1-800-737-1663....Just so you know, the ethics hotline and policy within
this so called company is a total joke.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2008

ANYBODY GOT THE NUMBER FOR THE CSX ETHICS HOTLINE ?????

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 June 2008

To C&O and others

If your check is short, And you know that you are correct, go down to
your local court house and file a claim in small claims. You will not
need a lawyer, you will rep yourself, no jury, however. You will force
CSX to defend their action or you win.

I would encourage you to have your stuff together, agreement, claim etc
as CSX will come prepared.

Get a few to do this, and see what happens. everyone doing nothing is
not working. Complaining makes you feel good but does no good. Test the
System and you may WIN.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 June 2008

Nope, your only choices are the BLET an UTU. I tried to join another one
seeing under the CSX/BLET SSA engineers became a closed shop.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 June 2008

if i'm not mistaken you can belong to any union that represents a
railroad craft. there are several of them like the train dispatchers
union, united steel workers, maint. of way workers, electricians union,
and thats just a few of them. a no bill engineer checked it out and said
you could join any of them because it says a railroad union not a
specific union. it's worth looking into anyway.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 June 2008

We need one union for everyone and not two that fight against each other
for stupid reasons.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 June 2008

does anyone know of a union i can join other than the blet or utu. this
is getting old.were paying for what now? if i could get all my claims
paid for the last ten years i could buy a new zo6.

Name: Cookie
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 June 2008

Just a friendly reminder to send in your blue cards, the deadline being
June 23rd.

Make your vote count and your voice be heard! :)

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2008

I've been wondering if calling the department of labor would yeild any
results? My thinking is that surely in all these years someone already
has, and apparently they wasted their time. I have to Belive that
there's someone out there that can force their hand on the issue. They
have the agreements in front of them they just choose not to abide by
them. It burns my ass that the other departments of this company arn't
held to the same standard of perfection that transportation is. Crew
man., officials, payroll, they fuck up all the time, where's that 100%
compliance? Crew managment is the worst. They take these fuckers out of
work release and rehabilitation programs, you can't understand them
and they totaly fuck up everything. I'd love to the figures on train
idle time due to these crew callers, they money and the % of delays
that are their fault. I'll bet it would shock you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2008

C&O Joe, I just had a Busted Call claim denied.  Perfectly good claim. 
First half it was in "Research."  This half it was "Not A Valid
Claim."  Then it asked me if the starting times have changed.  What
the fuck does that have to do with anything????  Damn bunch of theives.
 I'll hound them to death to get my money.  That also didn't pay two
ID meals and two Set Back's.  All perfectly legit.  Yep, they try to
steal from us.  No doubt about it.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 June 2008

C&O Joe,
You did a nice job of explaining your claim. you may have money due? It
happens that good claims are denied. They should not be, however humans
are doing some of the work, and it does happen.

Your UNION should be there for you on this one. Most likely you have
already tried that route ?

After submitting 3 times, and you feel that you have covered all of the
bases, and your claim is correct, and NO HELP from your UNION--- get a
lawyer. You will then know for sure who is right and who is hedging.
Most likely you will not have enough faith in your claim to do this,
nor the funds to follow thru, but maybe you should. You might even find
a young member of the bar to take on the CSX on a contingent basis  who
knows.


GOOFY

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 June 2008

alright goob, by you saying payroll acts in accordance with the
agreements I'm taking it that your assertion is that all good claims
are paid while only the thrivilous (however its spelled) are declined?
I was recently on an assigned manifest pool with 2 alternating turns
and a 7 day guarantee called regular at 2100. On a return trip back to
Russell I murphy and end up not quitting until 1830 meaning I am not
rested for my job that night and entitling me to a claim for 1 round
trip at  $202.45 each way. So I claim $404.90 for the lost work. The
simplest of claims. DECLINED! with a question: were you called for the
job?...................... What the fuck, no i wasn't you enept son of
a bitch! If I wasn't rested (which I plainly disclosed in the first
place) to be called for a start prior to 0230 the following day I
couldn't have shown up at 2100 the previous night. So, with much
frustration over my due cash I resubmit a small book even more plainly
disclosing the details. DECLINED! With the even more puzzling question:
were you assigned to the
job?............................................what......the......fuck!
So again I resubmit and again DELINED only this time because the claim
is now over 30 days old which was exactly what I expected. I have yet
to get my money. You see, this is common practice and it's rediculous!
I don't expect these cock suckers to give me anything, but do do expect
what I'm owed. I don't fucking need a co-worker to tell me their
payroll horor story, I have a timebook full of my own! Whatever
railroad you worked for 40 years ago it wasn't CSX and if acual
railroaders have been saying the same shit for 50 years maybe there's
something to it. How long did you work for the RR, and what railroad
was it? What qualifies you to make your assesment with any degree of
certainty?

Name: dumsh*t
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 June 2008

I keep hearing everyone complain about Spencer and McBride in
Philadelphia, but everyone seems to forget that the idiot Daly is the
one pulling the strings.  If anyone spent much time with one of the
isiot trainmasters when he is talking to Daly, you know that there is
not much that goes on without his fat ass knowing about it.  He sits in
his Ivory Tower ans sends his punk ass trainmasters to do his dirty
work.  Just so he can come down in the briefings and make a couple of
jokes and play the nice guy role.  Anyone else have any dealings with
this prick?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 June 2008

Goober do you really give good rim jobs?

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 June 2008

IN Quotes () are my  comments.

GOOFY

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2008

Alright goober, if what you say is true then tell me this: If payroll
is
impartial (They are NOT)  and by that i mean CSX has contracted them to
operate in
complete compliance with the set agreements to the best of their
ability (They will) how do you even begin to explain why they
constantly and
purposely reject perfectly ligitimate claims.(? Are they legit?) if
they were paid to be
accurate why would'nt they act accordingly?(They do) why would they
opperate on
the odds that if they keep jacking you around you'll give up (They do
not)  which
regardless of what you or anyone else says, is the way they do it  so
i guess we can assume that payroll habitually fucks us out of hundreds
(Your thinking not mine)
of dollars for nothing more than shits and giggles?(No one is laughing)
come on goober
surely you arn't foolish enough to think CSX is above providing cash
incintives to an independant contractor?(Maybe who knows) it all makes
perfect sense!(To Who?)
CSX contracts, or should i say, creates a payroll service to do it's
dirty work by fucking the employees out of millions a year.(Your
educated OPINION?) in return
for saving them that money they provide a percentage say 10%(How do you
know that? Just a guess?) of
whatever total they come up with  which for the sake of this post
we'll call it DENIED CLAIMS  in the form of a bonus,(How in the world
did denied claims turn into BONUS?) seeing how CSX
bees all boutz dem sum fuckin bonusz!(Unknown comment) CSX saves
millions, payroll makes (Really now, where did those numbers come from,
did you pull them from space or fact?)
millions, and the best best part is that CSX passes any accountability
(CSX maintains total accountability for every persons pay)
for any shady or illegal practices right on down to the payroll
service.(Really how do you know that, or are you just guessing?) theres
that "quality in motion" their always talking about.
theres obviously some form of incentive for payroll to act as they
do.(Do you know what that might be, or are you just thinking that you
know?)
maybe it wasn't like this 40 years ago, but it is now.(It was this way
when I worked there, and folks with 30 40 50 years service told me the
same stuff)(Our birthdays make us old, but they do not make us
stupid)(I can see your frustration, wanting answers, listening to
coworkers, and developing logical answers. However that does not
support your assumptions, make them correct, nor does it give you
recourse.)
GOOFY

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2008

Alright goober, if what you say is true then tell me this: If payroll is
impartial ( and by that i mean CSX has contracted them to operate in
complete compliance with the set agreements to the best of their
ability ) how do you even begin to explain why they constantly and
purposely reject perfectly ligitimate claims. if they were paid to be
accurate why would'nt they act accordingly? why would they opperate on
the odds that if they keep jacking you around you'll give up ( which
regardless of what you or anyone else says, is the way they do it ) so
i guess we can assume that payroll habitually fucks us out of hundreds
of dollars for nothing more than shits and giggles? come on goober
surely you arn't foolish enough to think CSX is above providing cash
incintives to an independant contractor? it all makes perfect sense!
CSX contracts, or should i say, creates a payroll service to do it's
dirty work by fucking the employees out of millions a year. in return
for saving them that money they provide a percentage say 10% of
whatever total they come up with ( which for the sake of this post
we'll call it DENIED CLAIMS ) in the form of a bonus, seeing how CSX
bees all boutz dem sum fuckin bonusz! CSX saves millions, payroll makes
millions, and the best best part is that CSX passes any accountability
for any shady or illegal practices right on down to the payroll
service. theres that "quality in motion" their always talking about.
theres obviously some form of incentive for payroll to act as they do.
maybe it wasn't like this 40 years ago, but it is now.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 June 2008

To C&O Joe

Bonus paid to payroll for declining claims? Bunk Hearsay at best, and
has never been true.
Code 97 may be true. You need to make sure that none have been paid,
some have been paid, and yours falls into the need to be paid column.

Second hand stuff from fellow employees is normally incorrect, and at
best questionable. you will learn this as life goes along.

GOOFY

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 June 2008

Webmaster comment:
You're showing your age, Goob; you've been away from the RR too long.
I
left in '99 and I've seen firsthand that the payroll dept. is a
profit
center for CSX.

OK OK I know my age, and have a comment or two.
Many large corp have a payroll service, those that -DO NOT- often pay
the price. That is why it is worth the money to hire those that are in
the business to do one thing, and do it well.

It may or may not be a Profit Center as you mention. That would depend
on a lot more discussion, however I can assure you that it is not self
sustaining, as a stand alone profit center would be described by many.
In layman terms it does not come at NO COST to CSX.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 June 2008

I had a claim denied.  I claimed Goober gave good blow jobs and he
denied it. Said he only gave rim jobs because the taste lingered
longer.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 June 2008

yes many claims are declined on a local level, but many are not.
Regardless of who pulls the trigger the end result is the same.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 June 2008

Goober is right, your claims are not denied for the company to profit. 
Each terminal is told to do it to keep budgets low.  In the long run
your trainmaster will profit with a big bonus, not the company.  The
bottom line is that they are taking money out of your childrens pocket
and giving it to there own child.  Alot of times that claim is denied
by your trainmaster as well...go figure.  A good catch is when payroll
tells you that your trainmaster denied your claim and he lies to you
saying that he knows nothing about it.  It isn't just payroll, they
are all a bunch of crooks.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 June 2008

Goober............ I havn't always agreed with everything you've said
but i've always apreciated that your position as a former employee
from way back when that got out and made a life doing something else
offered an unusual perspective on many of the issues. however, you are
way, way, way, way, waaaaaaaaaaay off on this one! here are some
interesting things you apparently arn't aware of. our payroll dept.
isn't part of the railroad it plainly says on our paychecks "CSX
PAYROLL SERVICES INC. AS AN AGENT FOR CSX TRANSPORTATION". Many of our
claim codes say for example code 97 are set to be declined automaticly.
when your contract plainly states you are entitled to a specific
monatary amount for specific services or occurances yet after those
conditions are fulfilled you are denied the contracted compensation for
reasons that don't even make sense (for example when you claim a code
75 for going outside assigned limits and payroll researches it for a
month then ask if your start time was the same? like what the fuck does
that have to do with anything? then when you resubmit it they tell you
claim is to old DECLINE!) then you have a perfect example of railroad
theivery. i was tol by an official that payroll gets a bonus based on
the percentage of claim revenue they fuck us out of. csx payroll
services inc could be a fortune 500 company al it's own. one time i
called payroll for something else and inquired about a 54 cent
deduction from a previous half and the guy said what if we gave
everyone 54 cents? payroll is a shady company with it's own shady
agenda and if you don't belive that you are far more foolish than i
ever would have thought.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 June 2008

Boilermaker man,
CSX makes money moving freight, The company makes no money from
stiffing any employee. If you think there is profit in shorting an
employee you are dead wrong.
Your pay check might come up short, based on what you think, and I
would think that is most of the time.
Real life is the cash you get, is more correct than your figgerring.
always been that way. And the company can prove their side. so go to
work have fun, and pay the UNION and Red Board Insurance to protect you
from ?????? I guess yourself.

GOOFY
Webmaster comment: You're showing your age, Goob; you've been away from the RR too long. I left in '99 and I've seen firsthand that the payroll dept. is a profit center for CSX.

Name: question ?
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 June 2008

with crew starts at an all time high, and people collecting productivity
getting fewer, wont the productivity payments get higher, and when will
the UTU give it away .

Name: Boilermaker
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 June 2008

Hey 03 Screen Man,

CSX takes money from people that they know won't fight for their
claim.  Payroll also knows which local chairman fight for their
members, and which ones don't.  Payroll usually doesn't fight claims
on members that have an agressive local chairman.  I hope you have such
a person representing you.  

I have a friend that works in payroll.  He said that they've been told
to deny certain claims.  Every pay period the claims that they deny
change.  He said that only one in 10 people care to fight the company
and get their money back.  Out of 100 people that the company takes
money from they may only pay 4 or 5 of them.  Lets say the company
shorts a thousand people a hundred and fifty dollars ($150,000.00) ,
and after several months of fighting the company they pay 10 people
($1,500.00). Heck the payroll department just saved the company
($148,500.00)  Not bad for 2 weeks work. 

My friend said that those with an * by their name is their code sign
that if you take money from that person, they will fight to get it
back. They leave the * people alone.  

03 Screen Man.  I know it isn't right but, with the way payroll is
run, we all need to fight for every penny, or we won't get an *, and
all of the money that we are due.   Yes it may take a while to get your
claim paid, but in the long run, its worth it.

Sorry

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 June 2008

Here's one that got overlooked and deserves the light of day.

I really wonder who the double tracking is for..."Gary Sease,
spokesman for CSX, said anytime there's an increase in flexibility,
trains can move more freely. But he said any notion the route is being
double tracked to benefit CSX should be directed to the DOT."

Pass the buck Gary...you see nothing, hear nothing and know nothing.

Yeah, that's your story and you're sticking with it! 


    
Cost of CSX rail deal jumps to $1.25 billion

LAKELAND, Fla. -- The cost of the stalled Orlando-area commuter rail
project and the state's deal with CSX isn't the widely disseminated
figure of $641 million. Nor is it the often reported cost of $615
million. 

It's actually both; $641 million and $615 million for a combined $1.25
billion in taxpayer dollars. 

That's a number most Floridians are unaware of. The $1.25 billion is
nearly double the figures cited during this year's contentious Florida
Legislature. 

State Sen. Paula Dockery, R-Lakeland, said the state Department of
Transportation is responsible for the confusion over the price of
commuter rail and improvements to freight rail lines. 

"At first, the document the DOT handed out had the $491 figure," she
said. "Then, come to find out, the overpasses went to $209 million
instead of $59 million, which brought the total to $641 million. Not
until we started asking questions and digging through documents did we
realize it may be more. But any figure over $641 million has never been
distributed by DOT in any sort of a widespread fashion." 

Dockery said the people of Florida and state legislators generally
"have no idea of how much this is really costing. And I'm still not
sure we do." 

The $1.2 billion cost has been confirmed by a spokesman for the state
Department of Transportation. 

Dockery, in a recent meeting with The Ledger, said she learned the plan
calls for the state to spend about $400 million to "double track" the
proposed commuter rail portion of CSX's A Line, which runs from DeLand
to Poinciana. Dockery has been a key organizer of the efforts to stop
commuter rail plans that would bring more freight trains through
Lakeland and would relieve CSX of liability for any accidents on the
commuter rail line. The CSX liability exemption was first disclosed by
The Ledger in January. 

State DOT spokesman Dick Kane, who confirmed the $1.25 billion figure,
said the cost of building a second track to parallel the A Line and to
make some train station improvements is $441 million. Of that money,
$235 million is in the department's current budget and will roll over
if not spent this fiscal year, he said. The rest of the money is
budgeted in a work program for the 2010-2011 fiscal year, he said. 

The 42 miles of double tracking would occur only if the commuter rail
project is passed by the Legislature, said Marianne Gurney, the DOT's
public liaison for the commuter rail project. The deal was approaching
approval by the Legislature earlier this month, but was shelved for the
session when a no-fault liability provision for CSX failed to pass. 

Nearly 20 miles of that 61-mile stretch of A-line is already double
tracked. 

Dockery calls the double tracking of the A-Line "corporate welfare for
CSX." She asks why a money-starved state that can't adequately fund
pressing needs should be funneling money to a profitable corporation. 

Gary Sease, spokesman for CSX, said anytime there's an increase in
flexibility, trains can move more freely. But he said any notion the
route is being.. double tracked to benefit CSX should be directed to
the DOT. 

The double tracking isn't for CSX, DOT's Kane said. 

"The double tracking goes into effect after we own the corridor" in
the purchase from CSX, Kane said. "This is being done to improve the
operation of commuter rail, to provide more reliable service." 

A 90-page contract between the DOT and CSX goes into great detail, but
does not mention double tracking the A Line. It mentions commuter
trains sharing the track with CSX, with CSX permitted to use the track
overnight, and during off-peak times for commuter rail. 

Dockery said no public hearings were held in the Legislature to approve
double tracking and its expense. 

But Gurney said double tracking has been mentioned on a DOT commuter
rail site, cfrail.com, since last year. 

"This has been fully disclosed," she said. 

State Rep. Dennis Ross, R-Lakeland, said the $1.2 billion sticker price
for CSX and 62 miles of commuter rail is hard to believe. 

"Can you imagine what we could do with that kind of money?" Ross
asked. "This is all tax dollars. We could have Amtrak do this from
Tampa to Daytona Beach, and have money left over for education, for
health care and building roads." 

The CSX and commuter rail projects are stalled, but could be revived
either in a special Legislative session or, more likely, in the 2009
legislative session. 

(The preceding article by Rick Rousos was published May 29, 2008, by
The Ledger.) 
 
May 30, 2008

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 June 2008

=====BR BOGGS=== was the trainmaster that was at collinwood at split
date , and was run out by a conductor, .. AKA=== JOE TUPA===

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 June 2008

They did the same with my code 75, Bastards probably got it confused
with 01

Name: 03 Screen Man
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 June 2008

Hey guys

Is payroll wacking people anywhere else right now? This week they went
back a month and took back all the Code 75's they paid me in May and
worte, "NOT QUALIFIED FOR POST 85".

HUH?

Then they went back and took some of my late lunch penalties too.
"Claim Invalid"

What gives?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 May 2008

Do I really think TCI/3G will make a difference? It's a crap shoot.
Their all politicians in their own way. Tell the people what they want
to hear which includes Mikey Ward and associates. I sent in the blue
proxy ballot for one reason to show discontent. The same way CSX treats
it's employees I could care less if any of those running this
corporation lose their jobs. The CSX antics have gone on for to many
years like constintly changing rules, termination instead of trying to
solve the problems, violating agreements, management that lacks
railroading skills the list can go on. Mine is a form of protest as is
others who have sent in the blue proxy. How much can you push your
employees before they break? I hope someone at CSX HQ reads this not
that they care. Certianly not Tony Ingram. If this was a well run
railroad your employees would be backing the present administration
100%. I can gaurentee that it's not happening. Worst that can happen
next year if TCI/3G nominations don't work out we can vote them out.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 May 2008

Why in the hell would the BLET back this current CSX Board of Directors,
unless they truely are "in bed" with the enemy? This is our chance in
a million to get rid of some of the biggest JERK OFFs I have ever been
around---namely YOU Tony Ingram, the best part of you ran down your
momma's leg!

Don't let this bull$hit union of ours tell you how to vote your
shares. We all better vote BLUE so we can make a stand against these
coward a$$ leaders we have in Jacksonville.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2008

*****************************ATTENTION*******************************

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO CAST YOUR PROXY VOTES ON THE BLUE CARDS YOU SHOULD
HAVE RECEIVED IN THE MAIL BY NOW. LETS SEND A STRONG MESSAGE TO WARD
AND THE BOARD WE WANT AND EXPECT CHANGE.......LETS GET RID OF INGRAM
AND BROWN JUST LIKE NS DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The TCI men have already responded to our letters and whole heartedly
agree with contract labor these two must and will go when and if their
nominees are appointed to the CSX Board of Dictators.



############################ VOTE BLUE ##############################

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ VOTE BLUE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ VOTE BLUE @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Name: castleton1
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 May 2008

.


BELTPACK operated switch engines can be set to operate at 5 and 10 MPH.


Is there a BELTPACK setting for 15 MPH?

Thanks,

castleton1

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Name: B&O hogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 May 2008

Just heard about a run away train at Grafton West Virginia. A and O
railroad (ex CSX) came through the town of Grafton 40 mph.  They
evacuated D Tower and the yard office.

Name: A.Z.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2008

Dont Forget - VOTE the BLUE Proxy!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 May 2008

Hey Loco 30+

Yeah having all your eggs in one basket is never a good idea...unless
they are Faberge!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 May 2008

Thank's NoMo

I see CSX pushed everything back which isn't bad seeing I purchased
more shares after what I thought was the March deadline. Those shares
even though the price was high have turned out to make me money in a
time where the stockmarket sucks. I just have to sell those shares at
the right time I don't feel comfortable having 2/3 of my portfolio in
CSX stock or any stock for that matter.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2008

http://2008annualmeeting.csx.com:80/

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 May 2008

I've been asking the same question. Where is my CSX annual report?
Every year I've recieved one with a ballot, every year I've voted
this time nothing in the mail. I do believe the closing for the numbers
of shares you'ld be allowed was sometime in March, but the original
stockholders meeting would of been this week if it hadn't been changed
to June.

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 May 2008

i didnt receive one ...yet,  it sure would be great if miky and company
were removed and a kinder gentler ceo ws in office.

m

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2008

Hey HTL:

Looks to me like the TCI/3G proxy was mailed out on May 5th.

   http://strongercsx.com/shareholdersLetter050508.pdf

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2008

NoMo...I see you have filed a lawsuit in Alabama with CSX and the UTU
listed as defendants. What a worthless piece of shit you are.

Now the UTU members are gonna have to pay the cost for the UTU to
defend against your insanity.

If you don't mind me asking, and for all UTU members curiosity, what
is the basis for your lawsuit?

Also read a copy of the decision from the Neutral in your arbitration
case...What a idiot you were in not accpeting the carrier's offer to
RTS on a leniency...You really showed them.

Out of curiosity, what did you do prior to hiring on the railroad.

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 May 2008

hey nomo,
when is THE CHILDRENS FUND'S ballot going to be mailed out?

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 May 2008

Has anyone asked this our fearless union sucks this question- Does
article II mean that we might get stock options for our back pay?
Everyone should read article II! Contract give us little, dosent take
back much except for the cola raise, but Im concerned about the wording
in article II and also no cap on insurance, just says 15% of companines
cost,this feels like foreplay.

Name: be happy in your work
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 May 2008

Is that the same trainmaster that was giving the wide stance at the
truck stop a while ago ?????    just asking for toilet paper== hey
===========BOB !!!!====

Name: mad shiter@collonwood
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 May 2008

I found out who has been shiting on the floor at collinwood , i was
sitting in my car at collinwood and went in the back door , and saw
trainmaster======= BOB HINDS==== comming out of the Bathroom . he
walked past me very fast and left in his car . saying nothing , no one
else was in the building exept the Yardmaster . then i went into the
bathroom !!!!!!! shit all over the stall and boy it stunk bad !!!!. Bob
must have came from a corn hole game and lost !!!! and he has the Balls
to Blame us !!! shame on yo butt man , BOB HINDS !!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 May 2008

http://www.tailofthedragon.com/    been there done that..left some skin
on the road..

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 April 2008

Big C;

You may want to go out and burn a few holes in the sky, before you
tackle any Tail or Dragons.

HA HA Good to see that you are having FUN.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 April 2008

Big C

It's been a while since we heard from you. Hope everything is going
good? I had some friends who did the Tail of the Dragon they said it
was great. Give'em hell at the stockholders meeting. 

RRJim

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 April 2008

AB... stand for ALWAYS BORING

Name: Big C
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2008

Think I'll try and keep them honest. I will be having loads of fun
watching them squirm. Only old posters like RRJ and Goober know what my
drift is.

Doing The Tail of The Dragon in June. I never have done it, but heard
it's a blast.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2008

To Q and No name, and RRjim;

Thanks, you guys are the best, and I learn so much from YOU.
You have experience, intelligence, and above all the  knowledge of
everything. And you still do not get my reason for stopping here.

Listen up and I will whisper it to you.

I just keep you HONEST! I really do not care what you think, go back as
far as you want and make a sane comment on any of my statements, and we
can go from there. Comments such as you never were a Railroader, could
not stick with it, Etc are meaningless, and are simply a strike from
ignorance, with no substance, or any rationale, against a comment that
you do not feel comfortable with.

Goofy

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 April 2008

Pop's 

When you thought it couldn't get any worse. I'm begining to think the
3 stooges from the general committees that brought us this SSA were
definitely bought out. Bad part is it doesn't matter if we opt out of
the bonus program which is the only right we have we're stuck with the
work rules. The bid system has served me great working a yard job with
plenty of OT never thought I'd do that one the road has been my life
for 28 out of 31 years. Then again for others the bids are a headache
especially in my area where three former railroads (C&O, SCL, RF&P) are
bidding on the same yard jobs and the C&O which has the most equity is
being screwed. I'm like you I've found that loophole to bombard this
company with claims none which has been paid to date. I have no doubts
when Moates, Smith, and Finnamore go in to that labor relations
conferance 3/4 of the claims submitted under this SSA will be schidt
canned. I just keep saying 6 more years till retirement it's not that
long. 

Sonny

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 April 2008

ok the years moritorium for getting our claims paid is over...what is
the gen. chairmans excuse going to be now?

I lost a lot of perks in this last contract, with an agreement of rules
that the company and union would honor. so far neither seem to have any
intent of enforcing these agreements,if i could get 12 of the many
paid,it would pay my union dues for the year......

Name: Balin'Wire
E-mail: rathercuttimber@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2008

Not saying it's right mind you, but CSX is a money making company, and
they are going to do whatever it takes to make money.  Shouldn't we
hold our union responsible for letting them violate our agreement any
way they want too? Isn't our agreement technically a legally binding
contract?  So in essence: if CSX violates the contract, they are
breaking the law right?  It's the union's place to keep them in
check.  Personally, I want to take it back to the old days where when a
man threatened your livelyhood, you waited until you got off the
grounds, walked out from behind a dark corner in front of him, and
showed him why being a snake and a weed beating snitch doesn't pay as
well as they think...........but that's just me.

Name: q
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2008

Goober.  Why don't you check out yardlimits.com.  They will love to
argue with you over there.  Then you will have to sites to embarrass
your hillbilly ass on.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2008

Goober never has fit in on this site.  He is too pro company, just the
opposite of what this site is about.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 April 2008

Goober

You really need to get some help. We don't care if you once worked for
the railroad you didn't stay so that doesn't make you a railroader.
Have you ever posted one nice thing on here that was beneficial? Your
getting just like Pines. I sure hope when I retire and that day isn't
far off I don't end up a sarcastic bitter old man that after a
lifetime out here I can be productive instead of destructive like you.


RRJim

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 April 2008

OH MAN DO WE HAVE A SHARP TACK HERE? Buy into this program and you are
guaranteed a job at any C store that you want. Now let me eat away at
this stupid post, just for fun.

Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2008

Boy, I thought we had it BAD!!! I'm an Engineer with NS and it sucks
(the company not the job) almost as bad. We're harassed just as much
as those of you with CSX and some of my fellow brothers have been
fired
while on CSX territory!

_____________CSX can't fire a NS employee, just report them!

 Don't feel alone, since the BLE turned down the
proposed contract, we've had it just as rough! It all started with
our
bonuses(contracted 10% WE GOT 5%!!!)

-----------That is why it is called a BONUS dick weed, the contract
does not say 10% every year and you know that!

 more Saturation checks, i.e., more
of them in the bushes, more denied claims(even rules class)and of
course cutbacks!

-------------How many checks before and how many after? I know that you
do not know, as you are blowing smoke. Same for denied claims and all of
the rest.

 We too have to check the motel sheets in the Indian
motels and ride in shuttle vans that have drivers who seem to have no
Drivers Licenses!

----------------Always need to check the room, however how do you know
that the drivers do not have a license? Ask them and if they do not,
you do not have to ride

 For a year, it was "ok"(the year we gave away
Ingram) and we thought it might get a little better when Goode left,
but in steps Ole Wick, and DOWNHILL we went again!!!! Oh, his bonus
was
5% too, 5% of 14 Million is pretty darn good if you ask me,

----------------Really I thought 5% was less than the CONTRACT as you
stated. As far as what he makes, it should not be any of your business.
Apply for his job and see how far that goes!


 and get
this, up he goes again with a 21% increase. I guess roaming around the
country and telling the stockholders(hey wait I'm one too and he
hasn't visited me) everrything is looking good equates to a pay
raise!

--------------Yep pay up those dues and get you a CONTRACT like his and
sail along.


Ten years I've been in this circus and don't get me wrong, it has
afforded me the opportunity to provide some great things for my
family,
but I should have moved to the CN!

--------------Age old Move now! same as it was then---No Thanks!???


 The pre 85 guys get a lot more than
the post 85 guys, and there's a LOT mor of us than there are of them!
Maybe we should have something written in for 05 guys!

-----------Yes keep on paying up until the stage comes in with the
GOLD

 
You guys ave my sympathy, keep the faith, and for goodness sake, KEEP
YOUR WHAMMY PAID!!!!!!!!

-------------Absolutely keep that job insurance paid up, heck pay in
advance. HA HA what a joke.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2008

Boy, I thought we had it BAD!!! I'm an Engineer with NS and it sucks
(the company not the job) almost as bad. We're harassed just as much
as those of you with CSX and some of my fellow brothers have been fired
while on CSX territory! Don't feel alone, since the BLE turned down the
proposed contract, we've had it just as rough! It all started with our
bonuses(contracted 10% WE GOT 5%!!!) more Saturation checks, i.e., more
of them in the bushes, more denided claims(even rules class)and of
course cutbacks! We too have to check the motel sheets in the Indian
motels and ride in shuttle vans that have drivers who seem to have no
Drivers Licenses! For a year, it was "ok"(the year we gave away
Ingram) and we thought it might get a little better when Goode left,
but in steps Ole Wick, and DOWNHILL we went again!!!! Oh, his bonus was
5% too, 5% of 14 Million is pretty darn good if you ask me, and get
this, up he goes again with a 21% increase. I guess roaming around the
country and telling the stockholders(hey wait I'm one too and he
hasn't visited me) everrything is looking good equates to a pay raise!
Ten years I've been in this circus and don't get me wrong, it has
afforded me the opportunity to provide some great things for my family,
but I should have moved to the CN! The pre 85 guys get a lot more than
the post 85 guys, and there's a LOT mor of us than there are of them!
Maybe we should have something written in for 05 guys! 
You guys ave my sympathy, keep the faith, and for goodness sake, KEEP
YOUR WHAMMY PAID!!!!!!!!

Name: Jim S
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 April 2008

come on guys!!!!

remember why you took the job if you are not happy then leave
life is way to short to hate what you do ,,,,,I love my job and all
that csx ahs done for me!

they hired me when no one else was hiring they kept me on when i was
real sick. when my wife died they gave me time to be with her! 

i am tired of going in to the depot and hearing "oh CSX SUCKS" 

GROW UP  life will have its down points that is a giveing but remember
life is what you make of it .....if you want to piss and moan then yes
live and your job will suck 

just go to work be happy and if your haveing a bad day just keep
smileing if you cant do that then get a job where you are happy

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 April 2008

So....... How does everyone feel about the UTU contract, good/bad?

Name: susan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 April 2008

Goofy-Goober, I still don't quite understand your position here, but I
do respect your opinion as to what some of our problems out here are. I
don't think I even skimmed the surface on them. I'm sorry about the
spelling,grammer,and punctuation in my posts. I guess I really need to
use spell check...

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 April 2008

Name: susan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 April 2008

Goober-Goofy, Thanks for your responce to my inquiries,You came from a
long line of rail-roaders-I respect that-You were a railroader for
seven years-I again respect that,

What you don't seem to understand
is,the rail-road that your family and your-self worked for are no
longer the same as you knew them,

Susan---- I am well aware of this, and never assumed that today is the
same as 1963

The majority of my fellow posters
have a hard time understanding why a class one rail-road like the C S
X
can't or won't take the time and money to invest in repair, training
,and the basic care of their employees(decent lodging).I could go on
and on about  our companys problems as WE see them. I married into a
family with a long history of rail-roading-My husband  hired on the
Monon in 1969 and worked for them for 35 years. We have went thru all
the mergers and changes that has ended with our currant company and
managers,We have also seen a lot of changes with the way employees are
trained( no longer are their 5 or more man crews with years to learn
and get promoted),The company thinks 5 weeks training in a class-room
and a few months on the job is suficient. The way legit claims are
denied, The rat hole motels that we are to call home when on
lay-overs,
the union reps that take the easy way out and lay over on the companys
side more often than not, and contracts that no-one votes for but
still
get forced upon us. We as employees want to do our job-get our rightly
earned pay-have at least a clean bed on lay-overs and a little respect
for doing a very difficult job that most people couldn't do.We want
to
be proud of the job we're doing but it's hard when the company
isn't
proud of us.

Susan------You have the same, age old complaints, that have been around
for years. Surprised that you did not mention the filthy locomotives
that guess who continues to destroy. I feel sure that it is not you,
however there are many that just find it fun to leave their filth
everywhere. Not any different than a filthy taxi.

I don't understand why you call yourself an Old-Head when
you only worked 7 years out here. In my mind an old head is some-one
who
has WORKED a very long time OUT HERE and the title is one of respect
they deserve. An old-head is more than JUST OLD. You need realise the
rail-road you knew over thirty years ago is a LOT different than the
one I currantly work for.

Susan------I have never referred to my self as an Old Head. I do not
need a lecture on that topic, as I am well aware of what it is and what
it means.

PS I ran spell check, and did not touch any of your post just moved a
few lines down to obtain space to respond.

GOOFY

Name: susan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 April 2008

Goober-Goofy, Thanks for your responce to my inquiries,You came from a
long line of rail-roaders-I respect that-You were a railroader for
seven years-I again respect that,What you don't seem to understand
is,the rail-road that your family and your-self worked for are no
longer the same as you knew them, The majority of my fellow posters
have a hard time understanding why a class one rail-road like the C S X
can't or won't take the time and money to invest in repair, training
,and the basic care of their employees(decent lodging).I could go on
and on about  our companys problems as WE see them. I married into a
family with a long history of rail-roading-My husband  hired on the
Monon in 1969 and worked for them for 35 years. We have went thru all
the mergers and changes that has ended with our currant company and
managers,We have also seen a lot of changes with the way employees are
trained( no longer are their 5 or more man crews with years to learn
and get promoted),The company thinks 5 weeks training in a class-room
and a few months on the job is suficient. The way legit claims are
denied, The rat hole motels that we are to call home when on lay-overs,
the union reps that take the easy way out and lay over on the companys
side more often than not, and contracts that no-one votes for but still
get forced upon us. We as employees want to do our job-get our rightly
earned pay-have at least a clean bed on lay-overs and a little respect
for doing a very difficult job that most people couldn't do.We want to
be proud of the job we're doing but it's hard when the company isn't
proud of us. I don't understand why you call yourself an Old-Head when
you only worked 7 years out here. In my mind an old head is some-one who
has WORKED a very long time OUT HERE and the title is one of respect
they deserve. An old-head is more than JUST OLD. You need realise the
rail-road you knew over thirty years ago is a LOT different than the
one I currantly work for.

Name: blackhole285
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 April 2008

I LOVE MY JOB JUST NOT THE COMPANY I WORK FOR!!!!!
I wished that someone smacked me in the head when I said that I wanted
job with CSX.  This is the only company I have worked for where you
need out of job insurance because OF THE COMPANY YOU WORK FOR.  This is
the only company I have worked for where management gives out high fives
to eachother for catching an employee in a whiz quiz/breatilizer test,
instead of directing him or her for assistance.  Nice job Matt, did you
get a bonus for that?  This is the only company I have worked for where
I have had to fight for money that is rightfully mine (shove moves),
and have it denied under the "post 85" reason.  I bet that reason for
denial "doesnt apply to post 85 employee" will still be around when
all possible pre 85 men are gone.  This is the only company I have
worked for where I have to check the sheets in the hotel we stay in
after numeruos complaints about "friends".  Was that bedbugs or
crabs?? Neither it was ringworm!!  This is the only company that I have
worked for that will look the other way when it comes to the RCO
operations and rules.  How many more will die?? Oh wait, there are
zones now.  This is the only company I have worked for that wants me to
believe the "Puck System" for the RCO is safe.  For some reason I do
not think that an unmanned locomotive in a residential area with kids
is a good idea.  This is the only company I have worked for that thinks
that the "Puck System" now makes it so we do not have to run the drill
track anymore to look for broken rail.  I bet when that loaded chlorine
car derails and starts leaking and the four schools within a mile of
the yard are evacuated the drill track will be ran again.  This is the
only company that I have worked for that if I followed all the rules
the trains would stop.  Has anyone taken a good look at the rule books
lately??  This is the only company I have worked for that when you
follow the rules you are taken out of service.  Don't find any defects
on the line of road when walking while stopped at a red, you might be
delaying trains.  This is the only company I have worked for that when
I ask management for help on a topic the response is "do the best you
can" or "you are a qualified conductor" or "I don't know".  
Now some will say that if I hate my job so much why don't I quit, and
again I will say I LOVE MY JOB, JUST NOT THE COMPANY I WORK FOR!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2008

So Goober, I take it your from around Paducah or Fulton if your from KY.
and your people were employed by the IC.

Name: paulie the lifter
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 April 2008

get real people. obviously, you are being duped by children or
dim-witted fools that know little about the true railroad picture.
First and foremost--It is not safety that is important, it is money.
All the railroad are on the same track and united in their efforts to
lessen injuries and deaths to employees so they can justify doing away
with the federal employees liabilities act. It cost them millions.
Instead of putting more effort into service and sales they increase
their efforts to harrass and intimidate employees about redundant
safety rules that do little to help the worker do his job safely and
efficiently. If anything, this impedes the process of work and causes
many unsafe situations, such as excessive radio traffic,which has and
will continue to cause accidents and injuries. Greed is the word when
referring to corporate level railroad management. The bottom line means
big bucks no whammy in their grey-suited pockets. They steal from
railroaders paychecks in the form of pay denials,from nickels and dimes
to hundreds of dollars. The unions don't have much strength since their
number of members has shrunk and along with it their power to have an
impact. What the American railroader needs is a return to the days of
the "Mollie McGuires"sp? This was the birth of unionism in this
country and they did what it took to make corporate mgmt. see workers'
point of view. Of course it did take some death,destruction and mayhem
but it was greatly effective and resulted in drastic changes. Now I'm
not suggesting railroaders form a sort of delta force and start wacking
railrod bosses but the thought does warm the cockles of my heart. The
"peter principle" is alive and well at management levels. "A man
graduates/is promoted to his level of INCOMPETENCY. This pretty much
speaks for itself.  That's all for now but stay tuned for more on this
and other irritations to us all. And to all railbuffs I say this-----Put
down the railfan magazine and pick up a playboy or get a different
hobby--a girlfriend wouldn't hurt either.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 April 2008

Piss off Goober-just admit you couldn't cut it and went to selling
smokes to kids. Now you have no friends and when you get lonesome you
come here to have any one talk to your old nicotine stained ass. Go try
your union busting some where else and take your 1st cousin Pines with
you. Sorry old bastard. 


GOOFY

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 April 2008

Hey Goober:

Eat a bran muffin...you'll feel bettet!

          http://youtube.com/watch?v=pRIaNlGGvxc

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 April 2008

Susan;
Locomotive Engineer;

I come from a RR family that dates back many years. My Father, Grand
Parents both sides, Great Grandparents, cousins, etc the old time
railroad mix of folks. All of which worked for the IC.

I see the history, and operation of the RR's in a little different
light than those that have heard it or read about it. I worked for the
L&N from 1963 until 1970 in the transportation department both in
engine service and train service.

I hope this helps a little.
GOOFY

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 April 2008

Name: HOMO_NOMO
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 April 2008

Hey Goober:

Regardless...you still don't have a clue!

HOMO_NOMO--------- Who really cares what you think, other than YOU!

I can say that positively...most of the employees that post don't
have
the slightest idea how bad they're getting fucked!

HOMO_NOMO--------Just your opinion, I can say most are not on this site
because they are WORKING, making a reasonable living. Those posting many
times are cry babies, Kinda like YOU.

The sad part about that is their unions, like themselves don't care.

HOMO_NOMO-------- they are just like you -----afraid to not pay up when
the union calls.

It isn't 1970 anymore!

HOMO_NOMO--It is not 1970? You are the MAN. Had a hard time with that
one????

GOOFY

Name: NS RULES
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 April 2008

FUCK CSXT GET A JOB WITH NS.

Name: susan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 April 2008

Goober-Goofy, Just wondering how long you worked for C S X ,or any other
railroad. Don't have enough time to back-track thru all the past posts.
  Just wondering. . . . and trying to understand your position here. . .
Thanks in advance for your info

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 April 2008

Hey Goober:

Regardless...you still don't have a clue!

I can say that positively...most of the employees that post don't have
the slightest idea how bad they're getting fucked!

The sad part about that is their unions, like themselves don't care.

It isn't 1970 anymore!

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 April 2008

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 April 2008

Hey Goober:

Glad to hear you made enough money working at RJR to live a
comfortable
retirement...nothing illegal about cigarettes, it's just hard to find
a
place to smoke them anymore in the US.

I understand the real growth is in China and India where there are no
government warning. To bad your to old to get some of that money.

NOMO ---------------I get my fair share on a regular basis. and I love
it

If this site is for the 1% who complain about every thing, old farts
and foamers...what do we owe your presence too.

NOMO?--------------- I am part of the 1%-- Old Fart

By the way...name something positive you have said...you haven't been
killed away yet!

NOMO---------------look back a few and see! Most employees are working
as they were hired, and never post here. That is a positive and true
statement.

GOOFY

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 April 2008

What's the story on Spencer's nickname Rollback?

Name: dominos delivery guy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 April 2008

Jim Spencer AKA "Rollback" . He claims to be a "transportation
specialist"he had a 1 van taxi company and worked as a greeter at Wal
mart. While at Garrett, he became a full fledged TM due to a sudden
death of another TM. After being there 6 months, he went up to the
Yardmaster and asked "I thought I knew the yard pretty well, but where
is this clear track that you are alway refering to?" It was explained
that it was kinda elusive. He also asked what is the difference between
coupling a car and coupling an air hose! DUH! At Barr Yd, I would always
take the extra pizzas to him at closing time and he never said no to a
pizza! Upon his arrival at Barr yd., he went around with a ruler to
measure everyones boots. More than one brother unzipped their pants,
not sure exactly what he was doing. Actually he is a nice guy, but
ignorant about railroad operations! That is no big surprize as everyone
that CSX hires for managers, may be book smart, but are operationally
"lacking any undewrstanding". So if you are doing family activities
at a family day at the yard. If you play BUCK BUCK, ole fat Albert
Spencer, is always the 1st pick. And as always Matt MaGoo is the 1st
prick!

Name: Trainmaster's Biggest Fan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 April 2008

Trainmaster Bill!!! Oh how I worship thee!!!! I like your way of
thinking. I wish I could be you, and would love to make these dumbass
morons we call employees lives a living hell, then fire their sorry
asses. It is no secret that all CSX employees have the combined IQ of a
goat. Hey, can you get me a trainmaster's job? I love to torture dummys
and what better job than trainmaster to do it. As for their applications
for McDonald's, if they go to Mickey Dee's to work after you teminate
them, I will go there, and make a bunch of complaints to their boss and
get them fired from there as well. Oh Trainmater Bill, how I worship
thee!!!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 April 2008

Denied Claims...I guess this fits the description!

   
CSX told no-fault is a no-go 

While Massachusetts transportation officials continue negotiations with
CSX Corp. to buy the railroad tracks between Worcester and Framingham,
the state’s congressional delegation is threatening legislative action
if CSX doesn’t accept a liability policy based on fault, the Worcester
Telegram and Gazette reports. 
CSX, the company that owns and controls 21,000 miles of railroad across
the country, including 22.8 miles that connect Worcester and Framingham,
is demanding a liability policy based on property, not fault. State
lawmakers and transportation officials say that is unreasonable because
it would force the state to pay for accidents caused by CSX negligence.


Every member of Congress representing Massachusetts signed a letter
sent Wednesday to CSX President and CEO Michael Ward in Jacksonville,
Fla., that says CSX’s conditions “would put taxpayers and fare-payers
at undue risk and prevent the MBTA from adequately ensuring safety.” 

No-fault liability would unfairly hold taxpayers responsible for CSX’s
negligence, according to the letter. The letter adds that if the issue
is not resolved soon, lawmakers will consider filing legislation that
would regulate freight and commuter rail contracts. 

CSX wants a no-fault policy, in which the company and the state would
be responsible for its own property, regardless of who is at fault in
an accident. The state says setting that kind of gross negligence
standard is unreasonable and irresponsible. 

“Our hope is we can get the CSX folks to work with the state to avoid
congressional action,” Sen. John F. Kerry, D-Mass., said in an
interview yesterday. “The economic well-being of our community is
really dependent on this kind of public rail system.” 

CSX is asking to keep liability on the Worcester-Framingham tracks as
it is now, with each party responsible for its own property and
passengers. To buy the tracks, the state would have to pay hundreds of
millions of dollars. 

“If the state purchases the tracks, of course we have a right to demand
the situation changes,” Mr. Kerry said. 

He said he will wait for CSX’s response before deciding if and when to
file legislation that would mandate standards for freight and commuter
rail contracts. 

In a written statement released yesterday, CSX said the company
understands the concerns expressed in the letter from congressmen, and
will respond in “a timely manner.” 

“A no-fault insurance system… puts the public first by ensuring that
payments are made quickly and efficiently when the need arises, rather
than having them tied up in litigation as often occurs in at-fault
insurance mechanisms,” the statement reads. “This is an industry
standard used with other commuter and passenger rail systems and
between and among the freight railroads when they operate on each
other’s systems.” 

Last night, Mr. Kerry’s office had not received a statement from CSX.
CSX spokesman Robert Sullivan said the statement was released to the
media, not to the congressmen who sent the letter. CSX will send a
response to the congressmen later, he said. 

In an interview yesterday, U.S. Rep. James P. McGovern, D-Worcester,
knocked CSX’s argument that it is simply asking to maintain an industry
standard. 

“It is bad public policy for the Commonwealth to give no-fault
liability to CSX or any other railroad,” Mr. McGovern said. 

He pointed to the company’s contracts with Amtrak, which, he said, have
forced taxpayers to pay hundreds of millions of dollars for liability
claims that were caused by CSX negligence. 

“CSX is being unreasonable here,” he said. “It’s nuts, it’s crazy to
enter into this kind of agreement.” 

The letter prodding CSX to rescind its liability clause was the first
written message all 12 Massachusetts congressmen have sent to the
railroad company. It was signed by Mr. Kerry, Mr. McGovern, Sen. Edward
M. Kennedy, and U.S. Reps. John W. Olver of Amherst, William D. Delahunt
of Quincy, Edward J. Markey of Malden, Barney Frank of Newton, John F.
Tierney of Salem, Michael E. Capuano of Somerville, Stephen F. Lynch of
Boston, Richard E. Neal of Springfield and Niki Tsongas of Lowell — all
Democrats. 

The track from Worcester to Framingham is one of the only pieces of
railroad used for commuter service that is not under state control.
Lawmakers say buying that rail is the only way to increase commuter
service between Worcester and Boston, in the long-term, to 20 trains in
each direction. 

CSX’s priority is freight, and freight trains traveling between
Worcester and Boston frequently cause delays to existing commuter
service. 

State lawmakers from Worcester met with CSX officials last month; after
the meeting, they all said the dispute over liability has led to
stalemate. 

The 20.9-mile railroad between Framingham and Boston is owned by the
state, and liability on those tracks is based on fault, according to a
1985 agreement between CSX and the state Executive Office of
Transportation. 

In 1994, the year before commuter service to Worcester was launched,
state officials agreed to give CSX complete indemnity on the
Framingham-Worcester tracks as a trade-off for providing commuter
service. 

In Florida, transportation officials recently struck a deal to buy
tracks from CSX to provide commuter service. Several Florida lawmakers
have complained about CSX’s liability conditions, which stipulate that
in the case of an accident, each side will be liable for damage to its
own property and passengers, regardless of fault. 

(This item appeared April 4, 2008, in the Telegram and Gazette.) 
 
April 4, 2008

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 April 2008

Hey Goober:

Glad to hear you made enough money working at RJR to live a comfortable
retirement...nothing illegal about cigarettes, it's just hard to find a
place to smoke them anymore in the US.

I understand the real growth is in China and India where there are no
government warning. To bad your to old to get some of that money.

If this site is for the 1% who complain about every thing, old farts
and foamers...what do we owe your presence too.

By the way...name something positive you have said...you haven't been
killed away yet!

Smoke 'em, if you got 'em.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 April 2008

Train Master 20-30

Do not be so astonished that we old farts and foamers are showing up.
It seems simple to me. This site is for the 1% that complain about
everything.
The other 99% are out there working, making a decent living, and doing
what they were hired to do.
Once in a while a real RR will show up with something positive to say,
and gets killed and goes away.

GOOFY

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 April 2008

Hey, HO MO- NO MO.
Gonna give you a clue as to where I have not been the last 2 years!

WORKING
How is your plan working.

GOOFY

Name: "Little" Bill Setser 
E-mail: bill_setser@CSX.com
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 April 2008

Name: TM"little" Bill Setzer
E-mail: bill_setser@CSX.com
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years


Okay you morons!
  In a short amount of time I'll be a Division Manager! My
daddy,David
Brown has assured me of that! I may currently working in a shithole
terminal in Garrett,Indiana, but not for long! My good ole boy
attitude
along with my Inspector Gadget collection of spying devices will
advance
me quickly! Along with my ever popular "25 ways(rules) to flag a
crossing malfunction", I will float to the top of this fine company.
All of you Willard fellows need to stop drawing dicks on wayside
bungaloes. I may be little Bill but I'll dick you lazy pricks! I make
up the rules as I go and daddy or uncle Tony Ingram will  back me up
100%. If you haven't been charged or fired yet,YOU will be! So bend
over and take what you got coming,because you morons will never slow
down enuf to cause me to lose my job,only yours. I will soon be in Barr
yard to deal with that illegal allien BLE local chairman! Then on to
Avon yd to replace Matt Magoo So get your
applications in at McDonalds,you are gonna need them! By the way,I
didn't get fired for covering up a cut hand on a Trainmaster at
pennsacola, I got a promotion! I also have the car department ignoring
federal defects on cars, so as to save money for my bonus! Can't wait
till sept 2008,daddy is gonna promote me. See yawl with my nite vision
binocs!

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 April 2008

Railroading is a love- hate occupation. Despite the impossible schedule,
inevitable fatigue, and the no good, lying, scheming, heartless,
caniving, son of a bitches we work for, somehow I still manage to find
enjoyment in my job. The works easy, the moneys good, the retirement is
great, and little kids love you. Once you stand for work through the
winter the biggest headache you have are these self imortant, cock
sucking, maggots officially titled trainmasters. The all think their an
integral part of the grand scheme when in reality their little more then
paper filers, and when they fuck up the company rids its self of them
with lightning quickness, usually after they've moved them all over
the country. The fact of the matter is, we conductors and engineers,
run the damn railroad! These enept, unqualified, pencil pushers have
micro-managed themselves into a position that allows us to take as long
as we want to do the work because after all the rule following is done
there's not much time left for working. You can litteraly work 12
hours without turning a wheel, and there isn't a damn thing can they
can do because your just working by the rules. I know its hard to
Belive but despite all the negatives, we still have a pretty good job.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 April 2008

I agree. This site is almost exclusively a foamer board. I came here for
info but mostly all I have found is foamers arguing and psychopaths like
Pines posting ridiculous stuff that is nonsense at best. I do appreciate
the real railroaders and their insightful comments about the realities
of working for the railroad. Based on the name of the site I assume
that happily employed people would not post here, but it is good to see
the dark side of any profession exposed before one makes the decision to
make a career change. Thanks real posters. I guess I will continue to
wade through foamer spew to find the nuggets of intellectual discourse
about this unique industry.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 April 2008

It is absolutely astonishing to me that the three or four most active
people on this site don't even work for CSX.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 March 2008

Hey Goober:

Where you been the last 2 years...hadn't paid a dime. 

Your still clueless!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 March 2008

CSX doesnt seem to have there trains running on good sch. seems crews
are jus wasting time waiting on trains so they can get home

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 March 2008

NOMO has the plan, just ask him.

NOMO pays up every month so that the Big dudes can ride in style.

Goob does not understand, yep right, why pay up for nothing over and
over?

GOOFY

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 March 2008

Words of wisdom from somebody that hasn't worked for the RR since
1970...38 years...he hasn't a clue!

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 March 2008

Goober is doing fine, thank you.
I do have a question for any Conductor that has worked for 30 and finds
that declined is a funny word, and or unusual.
Heck all insurance companies do that, just like the RR.
It is simple, decline and wait, most likely nothing happens----WIN.
And they love it.

GOOFY

Name: Retired
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 March 2008

After I retired I figured that claims "not paid" were a thing of the
past. WRONG !!!! Are other RR retires have a problem getting medical
claims to RR Medicare paid. I'am going back over a year and none were
paid.  Is the problem with Pallmetto in Agusta, Ga.  ??? Thanks for any
input.

Retired and loving it !!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 March 2008

Goober did we strike a nerve?

Name: Philly Smuck
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 March 2008

The manager and clerk at the adult theather (all male - all gay) on
Samson street have more decency and professionlism than the
Trainmasters within the Philadelphia Terminal. 
Whether incompent, racist, drunk, or just born to be an asshole, each
takes the award for being at the top of the Peter Princple. 
Held in contempt by each working man in the terminal, these
Trainmasters, time and time again have proven they speak out both sides
of thier mouths. 
They LIE about train departure times. They LIE, then deny any
involement about your pay claims. (IE shoves, overtime, code 75's
etc.) They LIE about your safety........HOW UNSAFE IS IT TO USE THE
RESTROOMS IN ANY PHILADELPHIA TERMINAL. They say to back your car into
a parking spot...can you do that safely without a spotter, especially
next to the river with a cliff within inches of the parking lot? How
about getting into the PTI vans with the SAFE $6.00 Hr. drivers they
hire. How safe is a W&W Van. One driver is legally blind, one is a
drunk, one pickups HO's in North Bergen.......Then brags to us about
his conquests. How safe is it to smell/inhale toilet fumes on an engine
for 8 or more hours a day. God forbid you complain or try to shop an
engine for a toilet. How safe is the Car Dept. in South
Philly.......ever couple to a track thats been "worked". Ever see the
Car Dept. get around the active RCO zone? I have,they have 2x10's
placed in the gauge by the fence so they can cut across. How safe is it
to take a Trainmasters word that "the cars at Woodbourne have been on
air". I have personally seen this Trainmaster start the air compressor
as we pull into the yard for the pickup. 
Each is only interested in his bonus and protecting it.
Each will do just enough from getting his own butt in a bad postion on
the conference call. (you should listen sometime)
Ever complain about the conductors in the 8/3 pool?  Try telling a
Trainmaster that MR. XYZ conductor is a sleeper, or that he DOESNT know
where hes at or what to do when he gets somewhere. See if that
Trainmaster will ever talk to the conductor and find out what the
conductors problem is. He wont. NO balls, NO leadership, just BS
everyday from thier lips.
I laugh everyday now. They and the company get from me what they
give.........nothing. Everyday I try to do less and less. Walk slower,
must be careful, use the brakestick, must be careful, ask and demand
lunch, must be fed to be safe. Ask for a PTI van for every shove
possible...safer than walking. Good thing is I've only been here long
enough to see the BS for what it is. I mark off KO every chance I think
I can get away for it. You can only have some many relatives die in a
year. Some conductors and engineers have alot relatives die in  a year.
I do it just enough to stay under the radar. Some Callers actually tell
you they are sorry for your loss......lol......CSX losses me for 5 to 6
days. 3 days off from the pool and 3 off for KO. LOL.
You useless POS Trainmasters have set the example for me........
Minimun effort......Maximum wage. 
See you at every recrew I can make happen in the Philly, See you at
every dreailment, see you at every crew briefing........Laughing all
the way to bank.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 March 2008

Just keep on doing what you are doing, and you will get the same result,
over and over.
Ignorance Personified.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 March 2008

Goober-

You didn't hit a nerve, I just think your a fuck stick.  Go lube your
anus up, for you sir, are a fairy.

Have a good day.......

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 March 2008

Why start another RR, just apply for a management position.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 March 2008

Hey cough, cough, Goober, I din't watch the door. I kicked it open and
escaped over 5 years ago. Im out of prison. Go to AA, you can tell the
post where you have been nipping in the bottle.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 March 2008

Hey Loco 10-20

Looks like I hit a nerve young man.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 March 2008

Hey Goofy,

Shut the fuck up........

Thanks

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 March 2008

Hey Obama Hater, Do you really need to post on every single forum to let
us know that your a narrow minded radical right wing neo con, that
really needs to get a grip on reality and post your RIDICULOUS QUASI
POLITICAL RANTS SOMEWHERE ELSE. just wondering?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 March 2008

I heard that Barack Obama will become the new CEO for CSX if he does'nt
win the Democratic primaries to become President. Micheal Ward will step
down. I think Obama will turn this company around.....to be even worse
than it already is.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 March 2008

Denied Time Slips!
The RR will pay for all time worked. The problem is the ITD, FTD and
all of the extras that the RR will refuse, and pay later at much less
that the rate.
Union gets 90% of a reduced rate, and if you are lucky you get the
rest.
Age old problem, same deal different day. Like it or leave, and watch
the door on your way out. However it is a respectable honest living,
that many would love to experience.

I was so tired during my short time on the RR that I never had time to
worry about the time slips and the declines, always got a nice check,
more than I deserved many times.
GOOFY

Name: Todesengel
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 March 2008

I agree sick and tired;the timeslips are a federal document but NO ONE
wants to do anything about this situation.When road crews put down
their departure time and claim initial terminal delay the claims are
denied.The higher ups change the time to show the train leaving on
scehdule.The bottom line is they answer to no one and if you make a
fuss you are labeled as a trouble maker.This will result in them
watching you every waking moment.

Name: sick and tired
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 March 2008

Someone needs to alert the attorney generals office of NY about the
denial of overtime and busted slips, I know there is a law about
changing and altering ones time.  If a person has performed service the
slip should not be messed with until talking to the people who have been
issued the slip have the opportunity to act on the situation.  What has
happened is a train will be called and then busted after reporting,
then being put first out and being denied the four hours due to us,
this is illegal.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 March 2008

upon submitting a claim for work I was ordered to do,by an official, the
officer in charge of approving the claims denies me the shove move he
ordered me to do saying there was not sufficient explanation for the
claim to be paid.  After talking with his mail box another trainmaster
came to me with an old excuse resubmit and we will pay you.  With great
expctations I resubmit just to be denied once again.  What gives? does
our unity have any pull? does our membership fight against unfair
practices in the approving and the denying of good claims, seems in the
last three years it has become more and more difficult to get paid what
we are due.

Name: trainmaster goebl
E-mail: goeblec@csx.com
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 March 2008

I'm thinking that with the rising gas prices, we should cut wages to
50%, except for the pre-85 workers who are protected, of course to
cover everything to keep the share holders happy. if we all do our
part, I'm sure we can help the share holders keep their money and make
lots more. and any employee hired after 2005 should maintain their
trainee salary with no OT, but there will be discipline matters with
workers with less than satisfactory work records. what does everyone
think?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 March 2008

CSX isn't paying claims, because they want to overload the
unions...until the unions agree to 1 man crews!

Just like they targeted "high Profile" employees at each terminal
for
harassment until they, either left the employment of the railroad, or
were passed though the discipline process until they were terminated!

Think about it...

Name: kristin
E-mail: 6f796khwrf7
Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 March 2008

This is my magic code 6f796khwrf7

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 March 2008

CSX isn't paying anything. Thank's to our BLET GC's they agreed to a
one year moritorium on claims in the SSA which should be up in the next
month. Then it'll be sell everyone out, business as usual.

Name: Todesengel
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 March 2008

I agree;SOMEONE should look into CSX payroll.Avon is denying some claims
even overtime claims just so they can look good.I'm probably like most
railroaders.....I don't want money for nothing;I just want to get paid
for my time and have my legitimate claims paid!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 March 2008

CSX payroll should be investigated by the Attorney General for all the
thieving they do.  Every week they steal money out of their employees'
pockets.  Work completed, no pay.  No other company could get away with
this.  Who do you contact to have this looked into?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 March 2008

Next to CSXT, I would like to know when someone is going to investigate
Payroll Services?  There is too much theft going on with this cheap ass
outfit, and everyone is tired of taking the fall with there paychecks. 
Now they are stealing the employees overtime!  I hope TCI sends them
all packing WITHOUT pay!

Name: brandon
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 February 2008

Hope all you railroaders know you can get a extra 300 dollars from uncle
sam in may!!! This also includes all rail workers who are retired and on
tier 1.

Go to the post office and get a 1040-A form and fill it out and send it
in, that is if you want the extra 300 dollars.

Name: BOB HINDS 
E-mail: COLLINWOOD / OHIO
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 February 2008

I just heard that BOB HINDS train master   at collinwood  was caught in
the I-271 truck  rest area  having sex with a   man ?????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 February 2008

Was told to go outide of assigned limits (set forth in road switcher
agreement) to pick up train.  Trainmaster stated out of limits but
needed it done.  When placed a claim for working outside of
limits.....DECLINED!!!!!!

Name: Gone but not  fogotrn
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 February 2008

it is snowing outside . roads are bad i woke up at 5am to take a piss
.and went back to bed and patted the old lady on the ass . after i woke
up at 9am and i thought for about 30 seconds about my old JOB !!! lousy
trainmasters . junk power ,smelly shit houses , frozen switches .
shitty hotels. i am glad i gave my job to the younger man . you have to
be nuts to stay , just keep paying to rr retierment . ,,, be hapy in
your work !!

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 February 2008

check china for the good jobs

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 February 2008

Hello all,
       
       In doing research on the internet on railroads, especially CSX
because they run at least 50 trains a day through our neighborhood, I
came across this CSX sucks site. I admit I'm interested in railroad
employement but the stuff I read on here is just discouraging. I can't
believe some of the stuff I read about on here. I hear stories of how
lots of folks are hired by CSX after going through training and
spending all that money for the training, only to get furloughed. But
on csx.com, CSX has job postings all the time for various positions
throughout their system. I find it mind bogeling that they hire these
people then furlough them. I'd ask why not call on the union then have
a strike, but I've read the union is just as bad the company itself.
And you guys also have trainmasters hiding in weeds spying on the train
crews? Mabye thats why I saw a CSX company vehicle on the dirt trail
along the tracks. (there is very high grass between the the dirt trail
and the tracks, so if you were operating a train here, you would'nt
see the company vehicle but the guy could see you.) Man is there any
good profession out there anymore?

Name: Harold McNeal
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 February 2008

I came across this web site on while surfing the web over here in
Kuwait.I have not been at CSX long ,but i love my job and i cant wait
to get back home and see my family and go to work for great pay and
benifits.I am very blessed to have this job,many other people want this
job.They are very supportive of my military duties even though i have
less than a year with the company.I can only speak for myself,but i
know a lot of people that would love this job.I hope that i never get
so relaxed that i take this good job for granted.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 February 2008

Us railfans are not Foamers. I mean do you accually see foam coming out
of our mouths?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 February 2008

Oh how I love my job!!!! Spying on all you morons in T&E, and noting
every little thing you do wrong, including wearing a baseball cap that
I don't like. And I love when all you crybabies come onto this website
and wine about your job, and how you hate this company. I do like to
hide out in weeds to catch you idiots breaking the rules, and seeing
your sorry ass out of work for 30 or 60 days without pay. Hey
engineers, how many times have you gone over a road crossing and seen
somebody waiting and he does'nt look happy that he has to wait for
your sorry ass to pass. Well that motorist could be me or one of my
fellow trainmasters. We do pose as motorists at crossings to catch you
violating the rules. Our ultimate plan is to make your life a living
hell so that you'll quit here, and we never have to pay your
retirement. Then we'll hire more idiots, treat them like shit as well,
and then when they quit, hire more. Process repeats itself. Oh how I
love my job, and how I love Micheal Ward and Tony Ingram! Life is
beutiful!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 February 2008

hey c&o joe...

We had a foreman or maintainer tell one of our dispatchers (on the
radio) that there were a lot of snakes out in the weeds.

Our dispatcher responded "roger"

The dispatcher got wrote up for acknowledging his statement for saying
"roger"

...this place is something else

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 February 2008

Loc. En. 1-10,

   Nobody could have possibly said it better. Go ahead mother fucker,
lay out in the weeds all night with the ticks and the mud just so you
can put a little F beside my name in the computer, whoopty fuckin doo.
When it all boils down to it I don't have to do a damn thing you say
because the rules will not allow me too....ha ha ha.....fuck you

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 February 2008

To Trainmaster/ Stupidvisor:

Just remember that you are the YES man.  The company tells you to
harass us  and you say YES!  You can tell us to do anything you want,
yet that doesn't mean the work is gonna get done....lol.  At the end
of the day when the work doesn't get done, I still go home smiling, I
still have a job, I still get paid, and I still get a good laugh
watching you guys take the fall.  Have a nice day Mr. Stupidvisor.  Be
carefull, the weeds are a little wet this time of year.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 February 2008

Thanks csx trainmaster for validating the whole point of this web site!

Name: csx management
E-mail: csx trainmaster
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 February 2008

you should all be at 50% and when it rains, we'll call extra crews out
to do work in the yard. you should also be thankful you worked for csx.
no wonder you're getting screwed, half of you are retarded and the
other half are so red-necked, you couldn't find your asshole with a
funnel. well...gotta go.....I'll be out watching tonight to fuck with
crews. ha, what a fun job to fuck with you dumbass retards. life is
good...:)

Name: w
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 February 2008

I would just like to say thank you to the person who sent the photos of
the toilets in. We put claims in at Davis Yard Wilmington NC and they
never get paid. Id like to see that son of BITCH stevie ammons sit on
one them, YEA I BET!! (notice i dont capitalize his name, he dont
deserve that much respect)

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 February 2008

here we go again,

  while I feel for you your situation is not unique. Furloughed new
hires are the standard not the exception. Second, if they called the
junior men for RCO that means you or your furloughed counterparts
obviously didn't bid on the box training thereby voiding any claim you
may have had. All I can say is welcome to the railroad. If you ever get
back be sure and throw some CSX approved Vaseline in your grip because
the anal fuckings have just begun.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 February 2008

What happened to you wasn't special. Even 30+ years ago no one told a
new hire anything. It was learn as you go along. In 1978 I was injured
on the job by an incompetent YM and conductor while shoving a 40 car
cut from one yard to another I was instructed to not protect the point
that the conductor and fieldman would watch the shoving move and the
track we were shoving in was good for 150 cars and there were 15 cars
at the east end we were shoving in the west end. Back then there
wasn't any yard speed so when the engineer got the cut wound up going
around 20 mph I was heading out the door of the locomotive to pull the
pin when we hit the cars in the track they were on the west end. The
grab iron on the door hit my chest fracturing several ribs. I was out
of work for a few months. One day  a Claims Agent called me I hadn't a
clue as to who he was he asked what I wanted for my injury. No one told
me about FELA I went in blind when I asked for lost wages he smiled
opened up his check book and gladly threw in another $1000 by being
blind of the process I most likely bought that man a new car on what he
saved the railroad. 

Best thing for new hires to do is find someone who will educate you
someone you feel you can trust. A mentor so to speak. You can stay
blind out here for along time when it comes down to claims and your
rights as an employee.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 February 2008

I just read our new tentative agreement and Im feeling abused. Am I
wrong to understand that our raise will only be applied to a basic day
start and not to our actual hours worked? Seems like a raise is what it
is, a raise, our back pay should be based on the number of hours we
worked, not the number of starts, correct me if Im wrong, but this is a
major unlubed butt plugging! Not only are we taking it dry, our union is
helping with the insertion.

Name: yeah OK
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 February 2008

Here we go again,

Ok,now you are going to be the local chairman? I don't want to ruffle
your feathers, and I admire your enthusiasm but I also don't want to
see you go down in flames. You said that you have changed your local
affiliation to one whom you believe will fight for you. Well then, let
that pan out and see how they treat you and the others before taking
nomination for chairman. Believe me, your complaints are valid but are
presumptious at the same time.  Let me get some things straight- you
said "I was number 2 in my class back in April 2007 out of 15". April
2007 is not a long time to learn the agreement and find out how the
claim system works.  You claim that junior employees were in RCO
training when you and others senior to them were furloughed. You did,
however, leave out if you and the others put IN for the RCO training.
If you did and you were passed up in favor of them, then you may have a
legitimate complaint. More information is needed here. You also threw
out the fact of working the day of, previous, and post days of holidays
but you didn't say if it were on a regular assigned job. If you were on
a regular assigned job for those days then you would be entitled to the
holiday pay. If, however, you were on an extraboard assignment and just
worked alot due to vacations, vacancies, etc. I believe it is different.
I know they used to pay xtra people for this but now it is only for
regular assigned jobs. The whole point I am trying to make is I hope
you are well informed of the intricacies of the agreement and don't
hold people accountable for things they cannot control because of how
the agreement reads. For all I know you may be 100% correct in every
statement but you did not give enough information. It is easy to go off
half cocked and royally pissed only later to find out how everything
works and to be embarassed by the facts. Do you know how I know? Cuz I
been wrong alot. Keep on being involved and you will be armed with
info.  Alot of people are looking to find good union people to explain,
rationalize, and clarify how the agreement works, they are out there.
Also, good point on seperating pre and post 85 verbage.

Name: here we go again
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 February 2008

I received a call at 0200 on the 14th of September 2007. After receiving
the call I went to the TECS Screen to find out who else in my class was
furloughed. I was number 2 in my class back in April 2007 out of 15 and
was suprised to see that the number 4 and number 15 guys were still
working. 

The terminal has a policy of calling the lowest 2 people for the RCO
class. These 2 guys got the oppurtunity to stay marked up for the RCO
training and were able to continue to work for another 1/2 after the
training was completed for a total of 6 weeks.

I ask for assistance from the Local Yard General Chairman, and the
Superintendant for assistance. The response from the Super was that
there was nothing that he could do about it. The local yard chairman
FAILED TO FIGHT FOR A MEMBER OF HIS LOCAL to get back to work in a
timely manner.

Yes he was able to get me back to work for about 4 days then I was
furloughed again while these two guys were working.

The local chairman FAILED TO MENTION THAT I WAS ENTITLED TO A CLAIM IN
A TIMELY MANNER, and BECAUSE of this THESE TWO GUYS WERE WORKING WHILE
I WAS FURLOUGHED ALONG WITH THE OTHER 3 GUYS BEHIND ME.

I did not find out that I was entitled to a claim until it was too
late. But if you don't know, then you don't file. THAT FRICKEN BIG
RED BOOK IS A BUNCH OF CRAP. Put that stuff on a CD/PDF Format and
label it for the Pre 85 guys and the NEW GENERATION guys so we can
understand and interprete what applies and does not apply.

Then to add insult to injury, my last 2 checks that I receive before
being fuloughed was shorted by $350 each for improperly inputed held
away. So a total of $600 and change was lost. My failure to reclaim
this is the only reason why I never got it back.

I got called back in November and worked in the yard continuously until
5 January. I worked the day before and the day of and the day after
Christmas and New Years. I have resubmitted my claims 4 times and have
had them denied "NOT DUE CLAIM DUE TO COMPANY REASON". 

This is fine, I changed my local affiliation and I am 200% certain that
the claims will get approved this time because this local takes care of
it's members.

The prevailing attitude is that if you are not a 30 year man you don't
exist. I attend my meetings and participate, and keep the junior guys
that are on furlough status informed with what ever information comes
my way. 

WHY????

I will be part of the solution not part of the problem, and will one
day be a local chairman that will not forget what it feels like to have
incompetent leaders that do not care or fail to inform NEW HIRES on how
to process claims.

This situation has definately taught me a lesson on how to deal with an
ineffective Union official.

Watch out, because I am building my power base by KEEPING THE YOUNG
GUYS INFORMED and TAKING THEIR ISSUES TO HEART. HURRY UP AND RETIRE SO
THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE THAT KNOW HOW TO EFFECTIVELY LEAD IN DIFFICULT
TIMES.

YOU CAN BE PART OF THE SOLUTION OR PART OF THE PROBLEM. RIGHT NOW MR
LOCAL YARD GUY YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.

Name: Johnny
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 February 2008

Jeff,

 

This is another example of a CSX Conductor that has worked periodically
since being furloughed on 101507. Interestingly, inserted below is CSX
response to his inquiry concerning benefit continuation.

 

Barry

 

Dear Johnny Dow: emp.224910

Thank you for contacting Employee Connection.
Your Case 346305  has been resolved.  Please review the below
Resolution for your case to see that it resolved your problem. 
Please be advise that UnitedHealthcare sent notification stating your
medical benefits will continue until the end of 02/08 due to you being
out of service furlough back in 10/07.
If you have any further questions regarding your medical benefits, you
would need to contact UHC directly @1-800-842-5252.
Solution Details: For health insurance (medical, dental, vision, mental
health & substance abuse) information for Union Employees, contact
United Health Care.  
Health & Welfare benefits are nationally negotiated for railroad union
employees, and their records are exclusively maintained by
UnitedHealthcare, Railroad Administration, PO Box 150453, Hartford, CT 
06115-0453.
Phone:  800-842-5252
Web:    www.myuhc.com
Members may also contact the following providers directly:
Aetna, Inc.  www.aetna.com 
medical--800-842-4044
dental--877-277-3368

C&O Hospital Association (UTU/BLE-Clifton Forge, VA area) 
540-862-5728
HighMark (Blue Cross Blue Shield)  www.highmarkbcbs.com  866-267-3320
Value Options Mental Health & Substance Abuse (UTU) 
www.valueoptions.com  800-934-7245
United Behavior Health (all other crafts) www.liveandworkwell.com 
866-850-6212
Vision Service Plan (VSP)  www.vsp.com  888-877-4782
Medco www.medcohealth.com  800-842-0070


Solution Details: ** Employment relationship terminates for union
employees under the following circumstances:
- Furlough
- Suspension
- Dismissal
- Death

Medical, dental, prescription drug, and vision coverage ceases at the
end of the fourth month following the month in which the employee
ceased rendering compensated service or received vacation pay. In the
event an Eligible Employee dies while covered, benefits for Eligible
Dependents will continue until the end of the fourth month following
the month in which the Eligible Employee died.

** Exceptions to four-month continuation of benefits:
- Voluntary resignation

Medical, dental, prescription, vision benefits cease on the date of
termination. 

- Retirement

Medical, dental, prescription, and vision benefits cease on the end of
the month following the month in which you last rendered compensated
service. 

** Additional information:
- Off due to sickness, injury or illness

The four month's continuation of benefits while being off due to
sickness, injury or illness is not stated in any of the SPD plan
booklets.  According to UHC, the four months of continuation of
benefits while an employee is off due to sickness, injury or illness
was negotiated by the NRC, CSX and UHC to allow our system to be
programmed not to turn off these employees' medical benefits until the
end of the fourth month following the month employee last rendered
compensated service. Hence allowing employees enough time to return
their proof of disability form which is required in the SPD plan
booklet under Disabled Employee, Page 30 of the NRC/UTU Health and
Welfare plan.  
Example:  For additional information regarding the four-month
continuation of benefits, please speak with your local union
representative or our Labor Relations Dept.

*** Other Leave of Absence - (Coverage may terminate the end of the
following month for some leaves.  It is best to escalate a case to the
UH&W Admin to determine the continuation of coverage for an employee.)

Sincerely,

Your Employee Connection Representative for H&W Issues
When responding to this email, please perform a reply with history so
that the following conversational identifier "[THREAD_ID:282801]" is
included in your response.





 

    DIST: CG SUB-DIST: NC    EMPLOYEE WORK HISTORY                     
PSTS18X 

                                                                       
        

 EMPLOYEE NAME: DOW               JC           EMPLOYEE NUMBER:
000224910       

    START DATE: 100107                         CURRENT ASSIGNMENT:
EX3886F9     

  1015 1145 SEN-MOVE  CGNCEX3886F9 10/15-1145 MOVE TYPE= P MOVE RSN=  
2-U= N  

   1104 0629 CALL      Q59503    CO 11/04-0830 000573201 B0   I1   0 
V5353     

   1105 1357 CALL      Q12404    CO 11/05-1600 000573201 B0   I1   0 
A7043     

   0116 0853 CAZ       Q68415R   CO 01/16-1045 999999998 B0   XP   0 
V4436     

   0116 1020 CAZ       Q68415R   CO 01/16-1045 999999998 B0   XP   0 
V4436     

   0130 0548 SCAL      M77530    B1 01/30-0800           B0   LO   0 
A7191     

 

 


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Barry Hogan 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:58 PM
To: J_Weisba@utu.org
Cc: Edith Dix
Subject: CSXT C/Ts in furlough status

 

 

Jeff,

 

Reference our conversation today regarding CSXT C/Ts in furlough
status, being recalled to work, then placed back into furloughed status
at the completion of their tour of duty and what effect, if any, this
would have on the continuation of their Health and Welfare benefits.
Below are only a few examples of this type occurrence on this property.
Should you desire more examples, please advise as this occurs on a daily
basis.

 

Barry  

 

 

  DIST: AT SUB‑DIST: BT    EMPLOYEE WORK HISTORY                 
    PSTS18X 

                                                                       
        

   EMPLOYEE NAME: KENNEDY           TR           EMPLOYEE NUMBER:
000214393       

   START DATE: 082207                         CURRENT ASSIGNMENT:
EX3698F9     

   0820 0925 FURLOUGH               08/20‑0822           F0      
    A4381  

   0831 1931 CALL      Q57931    CO 08/31‑2130 000571097 B0   A5 
 0  W4874    

   1008 0724 CALL      Y15008    S1 10/08‑0730 999999998 B0   YD 
 0  A7224    

   1013 1848 CALL      Y29013    S1 10/13‑1930 999999998 B0   YD 
 0  C3961    

   1026 0225 CALL      Y38125    US 10/26‑0330 000187747 B0   YD 
 0  W9882    

   1130 0843 CAZ       U23930    B1 11/30‑1045 999999998 B0   XP 
 0  F3527    

   1223 0157 CALL      U24122    CO 12/23‑0400 999999998 B0   FP 
 0  V5353    

   1223 1957 CALL      Q28222    CO 12/23‑2200 000572822 B0   FP 
 1  W4874    

 

    DIST: AT SUB‑DIST: BT    EMPLOYEE WORK HISTORY      01       
      PSTS18

                                                                       
      

 EMPLOYEE NAME: HEAD              RJ           EMPLOYEE NUMBER:
000224549     

    START DATE: 081907                         CURRENT ASSIGNMENT:
EX2542F9   

    0910 2228 FURLOUGH               09/10‑2128           F0     
     W4881 

   1007 2246 CALL      Y38107    US 10/07‑2330 000187747 B0   YD 
 0  C3961   

   1013 0206 CALL      Y32212    FO 10/13‑0255 999999998 B0   YD 
 0  W9882   

   1014 2006 CAZ       U24114    B1 10/14‑2200 999999998 B0   XP 
 0  W4874   

   1018 1523 CAZ       U24118    B1 10/18‑1720 999999998 B0   XP 
 0  W4874   

   1020 2341 CALL      Y32020    S1 10/20‑2245 000209508 B0   YD 
 0  W4857   

   1103 1853 CALL      Y22003    FO 11/03‑1900 999999998 B0   YD 
 0  C3961   

   1103 2230 CALO      Y36003    FO 11/03‑2255 999999998 B0   YD 
 0  C3961   

   1104 2022 CALL      U24104    B1 11/04‑2220 999999998 B0   A2 
 0  W4874   

   1104 2027 CALL      U24104    B1 11/04‑2220 999999998 B0   XP 
 0  W4874   

   1223 0802 CALL      Q57723    CO 12/23‑1000 000571910 B0   FP 
 0  V6477   

   1223 2204 CALL      Q52023    CO 12/24‑0001 000571910 B0   FP 
 1  W4874   

   1228 1725 CALL      Q59227    CO 12/28‑1915 999999998 B0   I1 
 0  W4874   

   1229 0430 CA17      D/H 0425  CO 12/29‑0425 999999998 B0   I1 
 0  W3056   

 

    DIST: AT SUB‑DIST: BT    EMPLOYEE WORK HISTORY               
      PSTS18

                                                                       
      

 EMPLOYEE NAME: MARCHMAN          SK           EMPLOYEE NUMBER:
000223603     

    START DATE: 081507                         CURRENT ASSIGNMENT:
EX3906F9   

   0817 1636 COMMENTS  PER SUPR GT PLACE ON ATBT F9                    
       

   0825 0141 CAZ       M80025    B1 08/25‑0330 999999998 B0   XP 
 0  V5353     

   0825 1932 CANQ      Q68425    CO 08/25‑2130 999999998 B0   I1 
 0  W4874     

   0826 0950 CA17      D/H 0931  CO 08/26‑0931 999999998 B0   I1 
 0  W4881     

   0901 1438 CALL      Y26001    S1 09/01‑1455 000573237 B0   YD 
 0  A7051     

   0902 2349 CALL      Y35002    FO 09/02‑2359 999999998 B0   YD 
 0  W4857     

   0929 0526 CALL      Y10329    S1 09/29‑0730 000378467 B0   YD 
 0  W9882     

   0929 0825 CALL      Y10329    S1 09/29‑0730           B0   YD 
 0  A7051     

   0930 0713 CALL      Y15030    S1 09/30‑0730           B0   YD 
 0  A7224     

   1007 0325 CALL      Q51906    CO 10/07‑0530 000379494 B0   A3 
 0  V5353     

   1008 0107 CA17      D/H010    CO 10/08‑0305 000379494 B0   A3 
 1  V5353     

   1027 2129 CALL      Y38227    US 10/27‑2230 000191988 B0   YD 
 0  C3961     

   1103 1815 SCAL      M71703    B1 11/03‑1900           B0   LO 
 0  SYAQ      

   1124 1714 CAZ       U23924    B1 11/24‑1915 999999998 B0   XP 
 0  W4874     

   1208 2336 CALL      Y35008    FO 12/08‑2359 999999998 B0   YD 
 0  W4857     

   1228 2223 CALL      G47021    CO 12/28‑2355 999999998 B0   FP 
 0  W4874     

   1229 0854 CALL      Q28227    CO 12/29‑1050 999999998 B0   A2 
 0  F3527

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 February 2008

HTL long, I am impressed. This is what I like, seeing stuff in black and
white when it comes to contracts, not what someone said  or heard.

Name: Toni Register
E-mail: er57pitboss@yahoo.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 February 2008

No Mo

Your response about my husband "Lamar" was heartfelt..He knew the RR
inside and out and was awesome at his job because he loved the RR and
TRUSTED them...anyway..please explain your comment..Jury selection is
scheduled for Sept. 30th. I do not know much at all about how the RR
operates, if I did I would not be in the situation I am in now..

Await your response

Toni Register

Name: IndyEngineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 February 2008

I was skeptical at first, but the SSA is working out to be a real money
maker!  I make more money on short crew/meals than I ever did under the
B&O agreement.  Even if they are only paying 80% of the bonus - I still
come out money ahead.  

Some of the work rules are going to take some time getting used to. 
However, it is such a relief not being under the B&O agreement.  It was
by far the worst agreement of all the railroads!

Name: lube1stb4fknmeplz
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 February 2008

Funny to see some of the higher ups on CSX come on here and run their
dick suckers.  I bet you feel good in your comfy chair every day while
you scrape up the fromunda cheese of your superiors.  Nash there are
almost 60 furloughed in Louisville and when I was looking on
CareerBuilder for jobs (i am furloughed) I noticed CSX had a posting
for Louisville conductors.  Hmmmm isn't that kinda strange they would
still be hiring while people who should be working are now struggling
to find employment?  By the way, no company can run things perfectly
but as far as I can see, CSX is doing their best to fuck their workers
as hard as they can right now and I hope they made in good with those
colleges and made profit since a lot of the guys who paid for that
training wont even end up being employed by you slices of shit.  Maybe
one day all of our conductors and engineers will strike and something
will be done about the ass pounding this company continues to give the
little guy.  I guess until that happens just lube 1st before you fuck
us some more.

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 February 2008

firewolf pointed out I was wrong,

"htl nowhere in the contract does it say the signing bonus will be
returned"

I stand corrected.....my first mistake evaaaar!....well I did over
sleep once....BUT only once!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 February 2008

ALL ENGINEERS PLEASE BE SURE AND CHECK OUT ARTICLE 55 OF YOUR SSA COULD
MEAN $$$$$$$$ COULD DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE MILAGE YOU CAN CLAIM.
THIS IS NO SHIT CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF.

Name: Nash
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2008

We have people fourloughd in Nashville. New hires keep flowing to us
every 3 months with 40 something cutt back. The onley thing I can
figure is that someone is keeping the new hire conductor manager in a
job. Opey is doing a great job running the Nashville devision. Cutting
back jobs every week. Cutting the boards. Cutting engineers back and
bringing in new hires. The skate man remains gone and cars roll out by
the day. The cant afford a skate man but rumor is they can afford new
radar detectors to check your speed. They also can afford a new f-350
for the master clowns to cruise in haha.

Name: firewolf
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2008

htl nowhere in the contract does it say the signing bonus will be paid
back if the bonus program is terminated . Your signing bonus was
basically back pay for several years of no pay raises ie. COLA .

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 February 2008

and repay your 2500 signing bonus

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 February 2008

I doubt they flip back in 2009.  They'll just come in here and keep
bitching.  Flip back and you lose your .15 overmileage, your higher EC
rate, and I'm not sure what happens, if anything, about the held away
after 15 hours and the meal allowance.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 February 2008

I would like to see the link that shows the 80%.  If it isn't in black
and white, it just bullship to me.  Besides, if you don't like it, you
can snap back in 09 to the national raises.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 February 2008

NoMo

The BLET/CSX slipped us a bone....r. The PBP for wages earned in 2007
is only 80%. People need to read what is going on with the NS and BNSF
with these bonus programs to see what will be the future on CSX. Both
railroads have raised the caps on reaching 100% so high they are
unobtainable. On the BNSF it seems there are two equations for paying
bonuses one for management and one for engineers. We have to remember
on CSX they are modeling themselves after NS at least when it comes
down to it's employees thank's to Tony Ingram and Dan Brown. Opting
out of the bonus program is possible in 2009, but unfortuately all the
work rule changes will remain in place. Thank Gawd, I only have 6 1/2
years left times they are a changin' and not for the better.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 February 2008

Hey Dan:

Sounds to me like you got a bone...r!!!

When it's all over but the crying...hope it doesn't cost you guys and
gals too much.

All the Union wigs will tell you it's the best you can get...so you
better except or it'll go to a PEB and you'll settle for less.

The LIRR and AMTRAK just signed new agreements which looked pretty
good...I think the AMTRAK agreement was by PEB and the carrier pays
100% on the insurance.

If it's a shitty deal send it back...no contract is better than a
shitty one...ask the engineers what they think of the SSA 6 or 8 months
into it!

Name: Conductor Dan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 February 2008

BOY DID WE GET SHAFTED ON THE NEW AGREEMENT.  

MY DOG COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB - AT LEAST HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A
BONE.

Name: northernconductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 February 2008

Again,to NO HOPE what so ever if you have a copy of the tenative
agreement please show it to us,details please we are waiting ,obviously
you must err... have some type of inside connection with the agreement I
believe what you  are comparing is wrong,again,when was the last time
you were at a union meeting???,oh i'm sorry you just want somebody to
come save you when you are in trouble,do you pay UTU dues or BLET dues
hmmmmm... i wonder,but yet if you are paying dues to the UTU why do you
shell out the money only to be disappointed ,another good point i guess
you are waiting to actually see what the agreement is because obviously
you dont have a copy of the tnative agreement,again put the yeller hat
on and shut up.

Name: No Hope
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 February 2008

northernconductor,


You sound like someone who could have posed in the pictures  on the UTU
site of the bargaining team and/or someone who milks the union out of as
many saftey days as you can mark off for while some one like me works in
your place. Enjoy your new aggreement. Sounds like from your response
you deserve it.I do have a copy of the tentative agreement. Basically
with all your fancy words you confirmed a lot of what I said. When you
do see the tentative agreement try comparing what we got to what was on
the UTU's section 6 notice. Your probably one of those who attends
every union meeting and gets on every committee you can so you can mark
off for this and that saftey and union buisness. The you complain about
all the young guys marking off sick ruining it for every one. Except
the ones you are complaining about have 10 times more mileage than
you.

Time will tell about the agreement. Hope I am wrong.

Have a SMART er UTU nice day or whatever it is called now.

Name: northernconductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 February 2008

To,No Hope's comment,I think you have quite a few things wrong,what was
stated on th UTU website was "Although the specifics of the tenative
agreement will not be released until after discussion with
affected(district 1)general chairpersons,Futhey said it provides for a
17% general wage increase over the life of the agreement,a retention of
the cost of living adjustment(COLA),and a cap on health-care
contributions.The wage increases also include retroactive payments
covering the period July 1 2005 to the implementation of the tenative
agreement.Additionaly,the tenative agreement provides a mechanism for
resolution of the entry rates dispute,an increase from the held away
from home terminal(HAHT)meal allowance,and for the first
time,contributions by the carriers to the yardmasters supplemental
retiree medical insurance program.So with that said I myself hav'nt
seen any specifics beyond that,if you have please share them with us,I
take it you are one of those conductors who sits around and complains
and says fuck the union and you don't even show up to a meeting at
all,but when your tit get's in a ringer you just say wahhhhhhh
where's my union rep i need him,so before you go running your mouth
about things surely you dont understand why participate in your local
if not I would advise you to put that yellow hat back on before you get
in trouble.

Name: No Hope
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 February 2008

Brothers and Sisters,

  Now that info on the UTU agreement is starting to circulate we can
see that we were shafted again by UTU union leadership. After all the
Thompson rants for the last couple of years that we would stand tough
for things we have coming the UTU pretty much settled for the same
contract with a bit of a raise. You will pay more on your health care.
You will get a 2 dollar raise on your meal money. (CSX SSA agreement
for engineers starts at $15). After retro payments you will be lucky if
you take a 3rd home of the back pay. The new hires pay rate is still to
be talked about in future talks with Carriers and UTU (good luck with
that). This is all we got with the carriers posting all these huge
profits?  Also thanks for all the job cuts and company taking back
money they say you were overpaid without any proof. Nice picture on the
UTU web page of all the ones who worked with the carriers for this
sellout agreement. Looks like most of them get more than $8 for meal
money. What happaned to the stuff we wanted as stated on the section 6
notice? http://www.utu.org/worksite/PDFs/utu_section6.pdf
You pushed the stuff aside we really needed because it would have took
some acutal bargaining to get those. Good job Mike. Your are a real
bargainer!

Compare what we got to  the CN agreement after they went on a wildcat
stike that our UTU was firmly against. Makes you wonder who our UTU
leaders are really working for.

  Did you read on the UTU web page where UTU president Mike Futhey went
to Mike Ward to get the ball rolling on the new agreement? All of us at
CSX know what MW thinks of the contract workers. Everyday we go to work
wondering if it will be our last day on the job. We now have more people
furloughed that any other time in the history of CSX territories.  Not
worried about jobs for safty reason but because of possible
termintation whether guilty or not. 

  The new president of the UTU has more important things on his plate
to worry about than bettering the conditions for the rank and file. For
one thing the SMART merger. Although he is a dictator he is worried the
SMART president will take all his power. It did not take him long to
get in bed with the carriers to help his position. He now says to vote
for this agreement or else (since when did it matter if we voted for or
against a agreement. We all know they do as they please.)They sure do
flip flop alot don't they? A lot like these clowns we have running for
President.

  One by one we will lose anything of value we have left. Notice the
xtra boards with rotating off days that are being shoved down our
throats? Your senority is only good to hold the board. Senority is
about the only thing we have left and that will be gone as soon as the
old heads are gone. 

Two days to bargain a agreement? I smell a rat. It is nice for the old
heads that they should be gone before the scabs have total better
working conditions and pay than the UTU.

Good luck Brothers and Sisters. We are gonna need it for sure after the
old heads are gone.

Name: Pissed Off Railroader
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 January 2008

It's becoming a bi-weekly ritual.  Print off numerous copies of my
earnings statement to turn claims over to LC or start 'another' case
on Gateway with DJC.  I want this c***s head on a platter and nothing
less would make me happy.  The stupid b**** knows three f***ing words,
claim invalid and denied.  So many people in Jacksonville and not
enough ammunition.

Name: Doctor Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 January 2008

BEWARE!!!!BOXCARS & HOPPERS CONTAMINATED WITH RADIOACTIVE SUBSTANCES.  

CSX is shipping covered hoppers contaminated with radioactive dust from
certain mining & industrial operations on its system.

 BEWARE!  If you suspect a car is contaminated, contact the FEDS
(nuclear regulatory commission, OSHA, NTSB, etc.)  ASAP and refuse to
handle the railcar(s) as it is unbelievably unsafe and an immediate
threat to human life(yours). Suspected railcars can be checked with a
Geiger Counter. 

If you get lung/organ/skin cancer, it probably won't show up until
years later due to the latentcy period of the cancer development, and a
claim will be hard to file unless your treating doctor actually does the
specialized tests to detect presence of radiation or other poisens, and
you will need to always keep excellent detaiiled time records of where
and when you worked - even keep a copy of switch lists, weigh bills,
and manifests of railcars that you suspect are hazardous and which you
believe may have contaminated you.   

The same is true if you work in switching chemical plants or around
other areas with toxic chemicals that are shipped in tank cars, covered
hoppers, and box cars (such as sulfuric acid, PCPS, clorine, cleaning
fluids, methal alcohol, asbestos or silica dust, cyanide, arsenic, etc.
etc.) 

Many railcars containing ultra hazardous substances are not properly
placarded, or are not placarded at all ( usually because the shipper
wants to hide it. CSX management has no safety program to ensure the
safety of crews from exposure to toxic substances. ( when is the last
time you saw a CSX safety officer scanning a boxcar or covered hopper
with a Geiger Counter?) 

CSX is not about to tell you that you are riding on a tank or a box
that is contaminated with lethal poisons. 

Many occupational diseases don't show up for years ( like hearing
loss, or lung disease from breathing diesel fumes, asbetosis,
silicosis, radioactive dust, etc. etc. ) - BUT, you can still file a
claim against CSX even tho its years later, or even if you are retired
and have not worked for CSX for years. 

PROTECT YOURSELF!  Contact your Union's recommended personal injury
attorney for additional important information regarding your right to
file claims due to negligent and/or intentional exposure to toxic
substances while working for CSX.  

CSX will NEVER voluntarily tell you about these extremely dangerous and
hazardous conditions.  They will hire you, maim & injure you, expose you
to extremely dangerous toxic substances, and latently murder you without
giving any of it a second thought. 

Protect yourself and your family.  Contact your local Union for more
information, and request the names of several personal injury lawyers
who can advise you in these matters. DO IT NOW!

Name: CHRIS CARLSON
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 January 2008

YOU PEOPLE AT CSX HEADOFFICE THIS WEBSIte was created to address you
stupid you people take care of your railway.

stop whining and support this site

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 January 2008

BIG B,


     UNTIL YESTERDAY I'D BEEN AWAY A COUPLE DAYS AND JUST GLANCED
THROUGH SOME OF YOUR FRAUDULANT BANTER. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT CSX
ISN'T ABOVE HIRING CONDUCTORS IN THEIR 50'S BECAUSE I HIRED IN 4
YEARS AGO WITH 2 OF THEM. THERE IS ONE GUY AT MY TERMINAL THAT HIRED IN
AT 55 AND HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN ON A DISABILITY PENSION FROM HIS PREVIOUS
EMPLOYER. DON'T GET ME WRONG, I DON'T BELIVE FOR EVEN A FRACTION OF A
MOMENT THAT YOU ACCUALLY WENT THROUGH THE RAILROAD TRAINING PROGRAM
WITHOUT FAULT AND WAS NOT OFFERED A JOB. YOUR JOB OFFER IS ( OR AT
LEAST WHEN I HIRED IN WAS ) EXTENDED TO YOU BEFORE YOU EVER GOT TO GOD
FORSAKEN ATLANTA, GA. IF BY SOME ASTRONOMICALY IMPOSSIBLE CHANCE YOU
DID GET THAT FAR AND WASN'T OFFERED A JOB IT MAY BE BECAUSE BY HANGING
ON THE SIDE OF A CAR FOR 2 EXTRA MINUTES AND EXERCISING WHAT THE
RAILROAD WOULD DEEM AS BEING A POINTLESS OVEREXERTION OF YOURSELF THEY
FIGURED ANYONE WHO WOULD DO THIS WAS MOST LIKELY AN IDIOT AND WOULD
PROBABLY ONLY GET THEMSELF OR SOME REAL RAILROADER INJURED,FIRED,OR
KILLED. THIS SITE IS A GREAT PLACE FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE BENT OVER
AND FUCKED WITH SAND LACED VASALINE EVERYDAY OF OUR LIVES. IT IS A GOOD
PLACE FOR PEOPLE WHOS LIVES HAVE BEEN EFFECTED BY CSX. WHATEVER THE
RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS OUTFIT WE COME HERE TO VENT OUR FRUSTRATIONS
BECAUSE WE ARE AMONG FRIENDS AND SYMPATHETIC CO-WORKERS WHO NOT ONLY
UNDERSTAND BUT FEEL OUR PAIN AS WELL. FEW PEOPLE OUTSIDE OUR INDUSTRY
HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT RAILROADING MEANS TO OURSELVES AND OUR FAMILYS
AND OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T EITHER. SO WITHOUT WASTING ANYMORE OF MY
LITTLE FREE TIME TRYING TO TALK SENSE INTO A PILE OF SHIT I'LL CLOSE
IN ASKING YOU RESPECTFULLY TO MOVE YOUR BULLSHIT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND
LEAVE US TO WOLLER IN OUR OWN MISERY.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 January 2008

TO ANYONE FROM THE PAYROLL DEPARTMENT WHO MAY BE READING THIS:

      I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL! YOU SON OF A BITCHES OWE ME $600 I KNOW
THIS HAS BECOME A RATHER TIRED SUBJECT BUT I WOULD RATHER DEAL WITH AN
IRS AUDIT THEN TRY TO GET A LIGIT CODE 97 PAID. LOOKING THROUGH THE
AGREEMENTS TO VALIDATE CLAIMS IS YOUR FUCKING JOB! I MEAN GIVE ME A
BREAK. I'M SURE THIS IS A MEAR LACK OF COMMUNICATION. ARE YOU ILLEGAL
HISPANICS WHO WERE KIDNAPPED BY THE RAILROAD AND FORCED INTO A LIFE OF
SERVITUDE AS A PAYROLL SLAVE AND TAUGHT ONLY 2 ENGLISH WORDS...DECLINE
AND INVALID? PERHAPS YOU CAN'T READ? DO YOU NEED AN ADULT EDUCATION
COURSE? MAYBE YOU WERN'T FURNISHED WITH COPIES OF THE AGREEMENTS? IF
NOT I'D BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO FORWARD YOU THE MATERIAL. PERHAPS IT
WOULD HELP IF I STARTED MAKING MY CLAIMS IN SPANISH? PERHAPS YOUR
PAYCHECK HAS NEVER BEEN $600 SHORT BECAUSE THE RETARDED SON OF A BITCH
IN CHARGE OF PAYING YOU CANT OR WONT READ THE DAMN AGREEMENT. I GUESS
I'LL TURN IT INTO MY PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A LOCAL CHAIRMAN AND WITH A
LITTLE LUCK I'LL GET IT PAID SOMETIME AROUND EASTER 2012.

Name: buck nasty
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 January 2008

csx stock 43+
csx employees. 39000+
same 10 lunatics bitching about there jobs...priceless.

Oh...I'm sorry, only 7 of you still or ever had jobs.

Posted on all sight just for you htl...harharhar

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 January 2008

Tony Ingram:

Send your train masters on out in the woods to spy on us....who gives a
sh*t. Better yet, why dont you come out there and spy then if I see you,
firing me will be the last thing on your mind at that moment.

Name: Tony Ingram 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 January 2008

To all employees,


        I want to know who is responsible for vandalizing one of our
locomotives, and I want to know now. I know somebody here who
contributes on this site knows something. Let it be known, we will find
who is responsible, and we will terminate them and we just may pursue
criminal charges against them. Just remember everyone, I will have
trainmasters system wide watch every move you make. If you think your
on a train somewhere in the middle of nowhere and nobody can see you,
guess again. We have trainmasters hiding in woods, behind buildings,
even pose as civilian motorists waiting at crossings. We're watching
you, and we will fire you the split second we catch you in a rules
violation. Consider this your only warning.

                           Tony Ingram.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 January 2008

Well I'll just have to start filing 10 times as many won't I?

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2008

A Really weird part of RR is the claim process.
1.Employee sends in a claim to the co for pay.
2.Co sends a refusal to pay back to the employee.
3.Employee is pissed, and many times just let's it go. OR
4.Employee talks to everyone that is known to man, to insure payment
5 Payment never comes.
6.Employee retires or resigns, and gets a few checks for a year then
all of the claims, that are pending go to the union, or Co.
 Yep all of your claims that end up being paid at a dime on the dollar
will go to someone else. Figure that one out.

GOOFY

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 January 2008

Hey Furloughed conductor,  that happened to me a few years back, I filed
the claim under RA and was paid.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 January 2008

Question. If I'm furloughed and crew management allows someone junior
to me to mark up on the same board I'm furloughed from isn't that a 
code CE AND A FULL DAYS PAY? This has happened 8 times in the last two
months and payroll won't pay a single claim because they say it's
invalid. Am I doing something wrong?

Name: ALL CSX EMPLOYEES
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 January 2008

******************************ATTENTION******************************


Take it from someone here in Jax office.

You think T&E have it bad....the women down here are always watching
over their shoulders due to the fact that the "Top" corporate leaders
are touchy-feely all day long, but they are too scared and intimadated
to blow the whistle on them.

If you guys want to make your point to Sir Ward and his Bitch
Ingram......

YOU BETTER CALL A FUCKING STRIKE--NATIONWIDE STRIKE--TO GET THEIR
ATTENTION!

If the system in New York city could pull it off, don't you think a
nationwide stopage would work???? Who fucking cares if a judge says go
back to work or go to jail? Put my ass in jail along with 350,000 other
railroaders. Who's gonna run the trains then?

2008 has to be the year for you guys to do something because it is only
going to get worse...trust me.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 January 2008

It is a shame that even the trainmasters admit that the Division Manager
has told all local supervisiors to deny shoving claims even if they are
legitimate claims.  The trainmasters know that the claims are legit as
they are former traincrew members.  And after you appeal the claims,
you get paid pennies on the dollar years later if you get paid at all. 
This is just one example of how the top people of CSX try to save money
for their bonus.

Then CSX wants to know why morale is low.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 January 2008

Have you heard about everything going on in Parkersburg, West Virginia. 
New woman brakeman "person" I mean, left the main track switch down on
the short line railroad. The switch lead into a propane filling plant. 
The next train through went into emergency but still went inside the
switch 20 feet.  Missed the cars being loaded by 80 feet.  Big cover
up; she got nothing out of it.

Another time recently, different woman at Brooklyn Jct. First night
out, ran through 6 switches, switching the yard.......nothing.

But they gave a man 30 days off when CSX brought in a bunch of wooden
picnic tables  and placed them around on company property.  This guy
got a splinter in his thumb off one of the tables and didn't think
anything about it....well it got infected two days later and swelled up
and he had to lay off work........didn't fill out an accident
report.......CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS TRAINMASTER ROBEY.....you know what
they did with the tables, they gave these safety deficient tables to
Parkersburg elementry schools.  NOW THAT'S USING YOUR BRAIN!!! This
whole thing needs investigated by Jacksonville.
TRAINMASTER ROBEY IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT ON CSX!!!!!!!!!!!
CSX did escort a different Brooklyn Jct trainmaster off the property
because he was on a conference call with other officials and didn't
know everyone was listening.  He called this overweight black
trainmaster woman in Grafton West Virginia "Is the big nig_ _r dike
going to be in on this call today?  What he didn't realize was she and
everyone else was already patched into the conference.....Yes, the
Parkersburg area is the pride of CSX.

Name: sucks.com
E-mail: sucks.com
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 January 2008

I heard somebody say this last nite.... quite funny

C
Shit
Xplode

Name: What'll we do now?
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 January 2008

It's all the same across corporate America. The Government is big 
business. The rich and arrogent have all the money, and money gets
you everything you want. The rest of us are stuck. You can't change
anything unless you have money and power, and the rich and powerful are
going to make sure they stay in that position. If you get into their
club you have to promise to never look back. We need a labor movement
like the old days but I don't think you can get India and Mexico to
join in. And, what good would it do to shut down all the fast food
restaurants and Walmarts. Big business runs America and always will.

Name: Conrail was better
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 January 2008

To All Who Think They Pay Up
    
      5 days pay my as#. They still owe me 5 days pay from 1999.
      Union says it was to be paid and there was a stack of these 
      claims on someones desk (I can't remember who the LC said) and 
      they were trying to figure out how to get out of paying them.
      They must have figured it out cause I never saw any money in
      Indy.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 January 2008

POST: Official Message from Office of Chairman and Chief Executive
Officer, CSX. Jacksonville, Florida. 

Dear CSX Employees. As Chairmand and Chief Executive Officeer of CSX, I
hope your Christmas and New Years were safe and prosperous, and that you
and your family enjoyed the holidays.  As we all here in CSX Corporate
know, each and every one of you out there are the reason CSX is the #1
railroad in the United States. 2008 is expected to bring our Company
record breaking profits and will be an exciting year for all of us at
CSX. As we all know, with such such large degrees of success comes
change  - change for the better of our stockholders, customers and
employees. One of these changes will be in the area of Claims - an area
that has needed some improvement for a very long time.  As your
Chairman, I am the first to acknowledge my responsibility to ensure
that everyone gets paid for work done in accordance with union contract
provisions.  As the age old slogan goes, "FAIR PAY for a FAIR DAY'S
WORK" - I could not agree more. Henceforth, effective retro to January
1, 2008, as part of the CSX infrastruscture overhaul of the claims
processing for payroll related issues, all paychecks issued to union
personnel - both hard copy and electronic bank deposit transfers - 
shall be henceforth immediately terminated. As a Union employee, in
place of your paycheck, you will henceforth file a claim for all work
claimed completed with the Claims Department.  Please  bear with us
while this new process is put in place, which may take several months.
If you do not receive a paycheck before next Christmas, please contact
the Claims department for disposition as we would not want you do be
without food, clothing or shelter for more than a year - or two. As
always, my door is always open to suggestions on this new program -
just don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Happy New
Year to all. Carry on, folks. Very truly yours, Chief Executive
Officer, CSX.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 January 2008

does anyone know when tony ingram and the gustappo are calling it quits?
not that i belive for one moment that the heir to the throne will be any
less of a no good son of a bitch.... but hope is all we have right?
i've been a conductor for a good while and all i've ever gotten other
than a cut to the nub paycheck full of contracually justified yet denied
time claims is a few e-test failures. effective january 12th guarentee
on road switcher jobs in the west virginia coal fields is no more.
$2,600 dollars a half in guarenteed money gone with the stroke of a
pen. some guys drew almost $20,000 guarentee last year so for some of
you guys elswhere there will probably be some of those forclosure
properties you keep hearing about avalable in c&o country. hows the ssa
working out for you guys?
we could have had an iron clad 17% raise taxed at 33% but instead we
get an eventual 10% non guarenteed raise taxed at 48%. another one of
those deals where nobody votes for it but it still seems to pass. if
you did vote for it you should be publicly exicuted on the grounds of
stupidity. i'm so sick of being bent over and ravaged by these little
number crunching, bean counting, pocket protecter wearing, pieces of
sh*t that i want to cry.

Name: albany
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 December 2007

...now you have my undivided attention!

Did something really happen to him?

*chuckle*

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for N/A
Posted: 29 December 2007

CSXT to unveil its newest wave of management cuts in the 1st quarter of
2008. 

In a show of what may be yet to come for other CSX managers, John
Campbell, AVP of CSXT’s Network Operations, found himself in a bit of a
pickle this past Monday morning. His office is now mostly empty. He
found that his mainframe computer, desk, filing cabinets, telephone,
cell phone, fax machine, stapler, pens and easy chair had all been
removed, and his cologne bottles confiscated. In their place is one
folding chair, a bottle of hand lotion, a box of tissues, and a
wastebasket. Also, his office door has been removed.

Productivity is not expected to change much, if at all.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 December 2007

yeah i thought it was great that there are people with the same goals
and motavatons sticking up for each other hopefully this story spreads
throughout the system and we can all remember what its like to be in a
union. all read your history and where unions started and why. it was
for the regular blue collar, work your dick in the dirt and love it
knowing that your making an honest day pay and supporting your family.
it wasnt meant for comanys to get bigger and push us around more. i
hope more of us stick together in the future. all hang in there its
GOTTA GET BETTER!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 December 2007

EXCELLENT JOB! I want to add these men to my Christmas card list, this
is what being a part of a union is all about. I'm glad you posted that
story, maybe there is hope for this place.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 December 2007

http://www.scroogeyourself.com/?id=1741847808

Fuck this scrooge! Merry Christmas to all the brothers and sisters out
there struggling thru this holiday season!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 December 2007

something that was just emailed to me from an LC --a good read

J:

I just wanted to share with you some details of the
discussion with Mr. Ingram last night.

Mr. Ingram made some opening remarks and then asked for
questions. After a short silence, one of my furloughed
members asked him politely what was the reason that they
had hired so many people, only to lay them all off in
short order. Mr. Ingram gave the stock answer about
business projections, etc.

Another furloughed member then took the floor and began to
describe what this layoff has meant for him & his family.
This young man was not even eligible for unemployment
benefits, due to his short tenure with the railroad. After
a minute or two, Mr. Ingram interrupted him and said he
knew what the man was going to say. The brother said, "How
can you know my story? You don't know my story." He
continued to try and explain what he was facing.

At this point, Mr. Ingram became a bit aggressive,
approaching the man and focusing in on him from a distance
of only a few feet. He said that the purpose of the
meeting was not to hear this man's personal story, but to
discuss issues that effect everyone.

Immediately, one of the other furloughed brothers jumped
in. He stated, "You might as well listen to him, Mr.
Ingram, because the rest of us are here to say the same
thing. So, if you won't listen to him, you'll have to
listen to us."

Another brother pointed out that we are just as important
as anyone in this company; we move the trains. When Mr.
Ingram cautioned another brother about criticizing CSX by
saying, "You are talking to the company", the brother
responded, "I'm the company, too," and kept on explaining
his views.

I spent the last couple of days somewhat discouraged about
the actions of members who continue to rush to get work
done, even knowing that more job cuts are to come. The way
that these younger members stood up to Mr. Ingram and
backed each other up under fire was a real shot in the
arm. They are the reason I get up every day to fight
again. To know that they are right there beside me in the
trenches is worth every minute of the anxiety and
frustration that goes along with the local chairman's job!

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 December 2007

ask dave on the safety page about the whistle blower act works..... he
went from head of csx signal dept to working at lowes.....just a
thought , have a csx ethical day!

Name: A
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 December 2007

just remebered......any speculation on utu contract negotiation jan
23???some say $32/hr guaranteed 10hrs a day based on the FEC $27/hr and
god knows what we will give up. im sure atleast our birthdays or first
born just trying to hear the rumors from other divisions---34 yrs to go

Name: A
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 December 2007

My first derailment and the saga that has ensued---a narrative

Dec 20st 2007, warm sunny day(sorry to those treching in snow) toward
the end of a shift i kick a cut of 10 into another cut that was strung
out on the ladder. i walked with the pin til i said stop so it was
probably 1-2 mph. keep in mind our engineer basically kisses the
engines  good night when she leaves,meaning she is SOOOO SLOW---i
digress, the cars ease down and hit. i pull ahead send 3 to trk 7 and
get ready to send 3 more back to 15 when the foreman says just cupple
em up and ill take care of it..short story long..the cars hit didnt
couple and when the foreman tried to come back 10-20 feet the rail
folded over like a dish rag and 2 cars get on the ground...keep in mind
the cut was strung out IN STRAIGHT TRACK when it hit...human factor or
just really bad track..one would think that if it was human factor i
would have atleast 30 days to post on here everyday...NOPE my foreman
and i were back to work after a talkin to by the term mgr. you may say
"hey man good for you" or "sure dodged a bullet huh" I say neither
because durring the whole conversation with mgmt, he kept saying human
factor and "we are gonna sweep this under the rug" and stuff that
makes us think they are doing us a favor, when in actuality they are
just gonna hide in the bushes and wait for us not to check a swithpoint
so they can get something they can prove...same mgr says to utu rep
reminding him that he(the foreman) is one step away from dismissal. IS
THAT A THREAT??? 

For anyone going though some of the CSX harrassment(yes thats what it
is) please if you get a moment look at the whistle blowing act...its
pretty interesting maybe it doesnt apply but it never hurts to arm
yourself with knowlege.. we did expose bad track and now hes hinting at
dissmissal. well this is my first post hope i didnt ramble and thanx for
the read----34yrs to go

Name: motown
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 December 2007

RR BINDER, Go out and find a temporary job while your furloughed and
wait till they call you back, believe me they will. I hired out and was
furlughed on markup day for 8 months, and I worked at a quick lube
during that time, one day I went home and there was a message on the
answering machine to come back and I was never laid off again, bottom
line is stick around; and if you have to work elsewhere to keep your
bills paid while laid off then do it, it will pay off in the end,
oldheads will retire, csx will still run trains, and someday newbies
will be wishing you would retire.

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for N/A
Posted: 20 December 2007

that is called railroading....we have all  been through it son....one
must have  real love of the job to stay here year after year....i have
worked many substandard jobs while waiting for the rr to call me back
but i always came......if i was in your shoes with management like it
is.....i dont know if i would be back...i wonder what the odds are of a
new employee making his 30 years out here with these idiots running the
railroad?   maybe you should write off the 4500 bucks and search for a
more reliable job......unless it has got into your blood like
railroading does?.... then you just wait and complain....we have all
had to do this and we all complained....but we all came back

Name: rr binder
E-mail: rbinder@fuse.net
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 December 2007

csx wants you marked up 24/6.Iwas marked up and when csx decides not  to
run trains you sit waiting on phone to ring to go to work if you dont go
out then you get guarantee money in which they find excuses not to pay
you this paycheck alone they owe me 600.00 in one paycheck. It will be
600.00 that i will never receive then they will turn around and lay me
off after christmas after i paid 4500.00 for conducters school.How am i
suppose to support my family

Name: going to get you
E-mail: pineskiller@yahoo
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 December 2007

pines, I used to hit em and keep on going ,but now when I get them I'm
getting off the engine and checkIng on who they are hopping its you or
a family member of yours . will post the pictures for the world to see

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2007

I just found this site, I used to work for Conrail then CSX from 1997 to
2002. I left MOW to become a police officer, I can't believe that it's
the same problems constantly, nothing is better, I started on the
Conrail but I was there when the CSX took over and within about two
months the entire division went to hell, and my terminal changed train
masters about three times in one year. The other thing I'm amazed by
is how they hired so many people so quick for train service, just to
lay them off- unbelievable. Good Luck to you all.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 December 2007

Time for a solution to the problems with the union and the company.

It has come time for us to drop out of the so called "Safety
Program"

The only people that benefit from this is the union memebers in safety
that make an extra $10,000 to $35,000 a year.

Make the motion to take a vote an the next meeting to drop out until
claims are paid and if we are forced into a bid system like the
engineers we will stay out of safety.

Pass it on.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 December 2007

Well i have about had it with this  low life of a company, every damn
week they are either denying claims or taking money back for some
reason, there last one they don't want to pay me for taking the
qualifying test on the B&A i was there 3 times to take it now they want
to pay only one, screw you bill edwards, you low life scum...

I talked to payroll about another denial, they didn't want to pay me
for a d/h back to selkirk, said i wasn't on the ticket, no shit they
don't put CQ on them, but it is on the payroll slip, that CMC can see
so i know they can see it, then the bitch has the nerve to tell me they
don't keep stuff in research as long as they would like, well screw
you, i let the bitch have it, then she tells me it takes them awhile to
get to the emails we have to send since we can't call any more because
we have 40,000 employees and there is only a handful of them, ya know
what bitch pay the valid claims and you wouldn't have this
problem....

This is just a few i have been getting denied, research, or pay taking
back at the rate of $500 a week so fuck you CSX by the way i thought it
was NY state law they couldn't take more than $50 a week back, if
someone knows for sure let me know  Thanks



So for you worthless foamers out there that are wanting a job with them
bitching and telling us if we don't like it leave, i will as soon as i
get my damn money they owe me, i figure it is about $4000 now

Name: Joe Blow
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 December 2007

castleton1

I would say that you shouldn't live near a train yard. Your fault,
plain and simple.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 December 2007

Where you located that all 26 furloughed have been called back?

Name: rolling BIG power
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 December 2007

Well any word of a utu contract in the new year? Good news also,all 26
furloughed have been called back to our termnial!!!!!

Name: castleton1
E-mail: castleton1@msn.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 December 2007

.

This is a question - and I hope someone can help me with an answer.

I live down from Bennett Yard in Charleston, S.C. Over the past 5 years
the noise from the switching operations has increased to the point me
and my neighbors can't sleep.  Whenever the FRA or someone of
authority is on the yard, the switching operation gets real quiet and
the cars are moved around very slowly. As soon as "they" leave, it
becomes unbearable again.

Question:

Is there a term or a phrase used by people who work in the yard, for
this temporary change in behavior? 

Regards,

castleton1

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 December 2007

Has anyone heard when the furloughed guys and girls at Avon Yard will be
called back. Since I've been furloughed I have not  received a call
from the union or management I thought people made the difference.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 December 2007

Hey Johnny O:

Tell me it ain't so...Ingram from LA...no way, unless he's from Bayou
La Batre...He's does remind me of Forrest Gump!

You got to be South of I-10 to be from LA.

Name: Johnny O
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 December 2007

Yes there is an engineer in East St louis with 60 plus years.  N.
Goebel, I beleive he is number 1 on the roster. Rumor has it that
Ingram was his brakeman at one time.


Ingram was never his brakeman or anyone else's.  He's from LA (Lower
Alabama) and started out in the Southern management trainee program.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 December 2007

Hey Loco 30+:

Try improving your diet...might cut down on the fumes!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 December 2007

I love funes. Tunnels are the best for fumes. Did I say I love fumes,
fumes, fumes. By the way, I love fumes. Been breathing fumes for years.
By the way I love fumes.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 December 2007

HTL:
You are a good spirit, well intentioned, just watch those fumes.
HA HA

GOOFY

Name: ATL Foley
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 December 2007

actually I'm from Atlanta, but I'm at Buffalo terminal AKA Frontier
Yard. I stayed there after getting out of the military, so I've never
worked anywhere down on the southern part of the sysytem. I need to get
to another railroad, it is going to be a long time before a lot of us
get to work here, I think we have about 75 people furloughed this
winter, at least I'm able to work at a freightliner service center off
of I 90 when i can't work at CSX, it's not easy work and it only pays
9.00 an hour but it makes me appreciate how cake the railroad is when I
get back.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 December 2007

Ah, i thought ATL was for the atlanta division, which is run by that
idiot Gary_Bethel@csx.com

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 December 2007

You reckon Ingram actually worked in T&E service?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 December 2007

Hey Loco 30+:

Foley, Al...home of the snake, Kenny Stabler. Always enjoyed the drive
between Mobile and the Island...plenty of spots to stop and and have a
bite or sip. Always a lot tougher coming back!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 December 2007

And Foley Ala I assume.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 December 2007

Does ATL stand for atlanta foley?

Name: ATL Foley
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 December 2007

Got my official CSX Chritmas card today it starts out with "This letter
is to inform you that your seniority does not allow you to hold either a
yard or road assignment" BLAH BLAH BLAH. Second year in a row, thank
you CSX. Maybe next year they'll send a singing telegram, lousy
bastards.

Name: XXX Man
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 December 2007

Loco  10-20

Yes there is an engineer in East St louis with 60 plus years.  N.
Goebel, I beleive he is number 1 on the roster. Rumor has it that
Ingram was his brakeman at one time.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 December 2007

I heard today that there is an engineer in E. St. Louis with 60 years
service!  Thats totally sick and twisted.  How can he get up on an
engine, he would have to be in his 80s.   I'm sure he's a nice guy
but that's still sick.

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 December 2007

gooby,
wtf has got in to you......ever consider prozac......the more you post
the more i wonder if you arent mrs htl.....are you?
could she be posting on here under the goober handle?
quit bitchen and have some fun....or are you to old to remember?
got any pain pills ya want to sell?
have a csx day goob!

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 December 2007

Hey Mr conductor with 1-10
How many Conductors does it take to work 1 job seven days a week 3
turns a day? Now you have the answer. If not I can send it to you.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 November 2007

START FURLOUGHING TRAINMASTERS AND OTHER MANAGMENT. WHY DO I NEED 6
TRAINMASTERS AT MY TERMINAL AT 50,000 + SALARIES TO REMIND ME TO WEAR
MY SAFETY GLASSES, OR WATCH ANOTHER VIDEO. JUST GOT FURLOUGHED AGAIN
GOING ON THE THIRD WINTER, BUT WAIT THERES OPEN POSITIONS BUT I'M TOLD
THAT THERE IS OLDER MEN THAN ME FURLOUGHED "SOMEWHERE" AND I HAVE TO
WAIT TILL THEY COME BACK, I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHAT SENIORITY MOVES WERE
FOR, WELL WHO EVER YOU ARE PLEASE COME HOME SO WE CAN GET BACK TO WORK
SOMEDAY, SOMEWHERE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO WISH A GO TO HELL HAPPY HOLIDAYS
TO EVERYONE AT CREW MANAGMENT, BILL EDWARDS, EVERY CMC MANAGER, MY
TERMINAL SUPR. WHO JUST BOUGHT HIS STEP-SON AN ESCALADE, AND EVERYONE
ELSE REPONSIBLE FOR EXTRABOARDS BEING CUT AND BLANKING SWITCHMAN
POSITIONS, THIS HOLIDAY SEASON, WITHOUT YOUR HARD WORK AND
DETERMINATION IN SREWING OVER UNION CRAFTS, MYSELF AND HUNDREDS OF
OTHERS GET THE JOY OF TELLING OUR FAMILIES ONCE AGAIN "THIS CHRISTMAS
ISN'T GOING TO BE SO GOOD" MAYBE NEXT YEAR I'LL TRY AND WORK FOR A
REAL RAILROAD.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 November 2007

Don't spend all this in one place, put some aside for a rainy day!


COLA adjustment effective Jan. 1
 
UTU members covered by the national railroad agreement will receive a
cost-of-living (COLA) adjustment effective Jan. 1, 2008, that will be
rolled into the basic daily rates of pay.

The adjustment will be $0.16 per hour, or $1.28 per day.

In addition, the employee health and welfare contribution will increase
to $170.44 per month, also effective Jan. 1.

Rate tables reflecting the COLA application are posted on the UTU Web
site. To view the tables, select the Awards/Agreements tab in the red
menu bar on the UTU homepage, then click on the first line under
Important Documents. 
 
November 28, 2007

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 November 2007

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If you scored 20, congradualtions! You are a Certified Donkey Dick
Sucker just like me, King Donkey Dick Sucker Robert Pines! Feel free to
take the Donkey Dick Sucker Certification Test as often as you need. No
cheating is allowed at all!

Name: Wildman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 November 2007

Today is Veterans Day 11-11-07.
I just want to thank all our vets for their service to our country.
I also want to tell our active duty servicemen to come home safe.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 November 2007

When the company was still wallering the idea of starting the SCHOOL
program and planning the lets charge 5000$ for them to go idea
around,all the old heads were laughing their asses off trying to
figure
out why ANYONE would pay to go.The company has always needed to pad
the
employee roll to protect current and future demand for warm
bodies.When
foamer wanna bee's started actually paying,the company decided that
they no longer needed to hire educated rail people from within the
ranks of family and friends who were already employees.If you paid to
work,it's YOUR problem.EVERYONE out here has been laid off,bumped
from
the good jobs,had to wait their turn to hold the gravy jobs,WHY ARE
YOU
SPECIAL-YOU ARE THE DUMB ASS WHO PAID FOR THE SCHOOL-WE DIDN'T.If
no-one had paid,the company would have continued to hire people who
knew a little about the way things are out here.Again,I say sit back
shut up and try to learn a little about the job from the oldheads
before their all gone.You guys think just because you PAID to go to
school,you deserve different treatment.You bitch about beeing laid
off,then  you bitch about the jobs when you arent laid off.


And why do we bitch. Probally because somewhere back in time you fucked
us to get what you wanted! Probally because all we was hearing when we
was cubbing was bitching and gryping from the old heads! As for family
being hired thats another story that speaks for its self. Im sure there
are a lot of people who work and went through the school who have dads
and uncles who work our here. The problem is that just because daddy
has worked at the railroad for 30 years does not mean that junior knows
a dam thing about railroading.In fact I bet 80% of railroad children are
so spoiled by daddy they cant function in a real mans world.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 November 2007

To formerly CSX fan , I understand someone had to take the fall ..and I
also understand the cause was a broken rail. Since this accident Sperry
car defects are way up ! Overtime costs for the erie west sub alone  has
been over 400 hours since it last ran about 2 weeks ago. The posted job
for roadmaster is for Ted's old job .  Rumor has it the roadmaster in
Lordstown, Skipper Dykes wants to split up Phelps old territory with
Dan Hinton. That would be a mistake for the company , Old Skipper is as
crooked as hell . His brother has a Railroad construction company and
I'm sure ol Skippy has steered business his brothers way. Before the
RR Construction business his brother sold RR ties for years ...Gee I
wonder where they came from ???  Maybe the right people will read this
and investigate it.

Name: BoxcarBob@Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 04 November 2007

Unions cannot have any strength while members don't bother taking any
interest or part in the running of their union locals.  It'is really
easy to complain and yet never participate or attend a union meeting. 
The local chairmen who try to do the job are hampered by all you people
making your own deals with the local trainmaster and working for that
quit or "give me the twelve hours" and I will do anyting you want
syndrome.

You are right that a lot of local chairmen today are on the company
payroll and it is something that should be stoppoed.  No one can serve
two masters.  Until the rank and file members call those kinds of local
chairmen on that type of activity it will never get better.  Tell a
local chairman who behaves like that that he is nothing but a scab and
should be removed from the position.  Same thing with General Chairmen
who push their members in to these company programs just to keep them
busy enough to not be able to handle time claims.  Do something about
it now.

Name: Cookie
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 November 2007

When the UAW speaks, people listen


When the UTU/BLET speaks, people laugh


Rail worker unions are worthless, kowtowing to the carriers every whim

We should go back to the old days, when harassment by a company
official resulted in  broken limbs for him, and a trip out of town on a
scrap gon.

When a trainmaster chuckles at the prospect of firing a man with wife,
kids, and mortgage over nothing -- that is when a 30.06 can set things
straight.

When your local chairman marks off every weekend on union business in
order to watch the game -- he should be removed from his position with
a swiftness, and reminded of the fate of Jimmy Hoffa.

If everybody cooperated and closed ranks, rail unions would be FEARED
throughout the land, instead of spat upon.

The threat of physical violence, and yes, even death -- is a powerful
motivator.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 November 2007

Update the selkirk to boston line lost  jobs thanks to the UTU 394
thanks Woody Cowles and your puke servant Joe Bodner

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 November 2007

Lay there and bleed UTU.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 November 2007

That seems to be happening among many UTU locals.  The guys are either
joining the BLET or changing to a different UTU local.  It's getting
to the point that if you are a local or general chairman who isn't
doing his job such as answering the phone, working on claims, or
forcing the agreements, the guys are going to abandon you!  The UTU
also has some nerve to constantly accuse the BLET of raiding its
membership.  I know at least three terminals where the trainmen are
leaving the UTU & joining the BLET on there own freewill.  It doesn't
matter if they are  officials representing the UTU or BLET, they knew
what there responsibility was when they took the job.  Stop blaming the
men, stop pointing the finger at each other, and do your job!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 November 2007

It's funny how the UTU local 394 on the selkirk to boston side all of
their members joined the BLET well I cant blame them you have two local
chairmans who only care about themselves and don't take care of their
fellow union brothers I believe their numbers were 50 members now it is
down to oh I believe 11 or 12,the two individuals don't show up to
there meetings,nor do they care and as punishment they propose 2/3 of
the work at a runs meeting to the boston side for their members joining
 the BLET great going guys we would'nt want you to miss any trips on
the mohawk to take care of your members on the other side or to try to
get back members for that matter,the two of you should be ashamed of
yourselves,imagine your own local chairman not showing up to a runs
meeting his own pocket was more important going to buffalo,well at
least his vice local was there with kneepads. and a bib around his
kneck.

Name: htl;
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 October 2007

We already have one win under our belts -- the passage by the House of
Representatives of H.R. 2095, the Federal Railroad Safety Improvement
Act

oh thank you utu...just like the utu (you took us) union to jump on the
band wagon and claim all the credit for the passage of this
bill...sheeze!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 October 2007

Now...SMARTS reply.

Don't know whose lying and whose not...guess it comes down to who has
the most to gain or lose.

Might be worth filing a grievance with the Office of Labor-Management
Standards (OLMS) which is responsible for enforcing the provisions of
the Labor-Management Reporting and Disclosure Act (LMRDA)...I smell
smoke! 

 
By Brokenrail

Many years ago, while I was in high school, our football coach changed
our playbook and reassigned players to new positions. Wow, were there
gripes, threats and unhappy players.  

Nobody liked learning new plays and new positions. Even some assistant
coaches were unhappy. But once we started winning, and became district
champs, the complaints were forgotten.

History is repeating itself with the merger of the UTU and Sheet Metal
Workers International Association to form SMART. We are hearing gripes
and threats.

This was not a merger forced on us. The constitutions of both
organizations were posted on the UTU website, and members were directed
to read the constitutions and other material on the merger before
casting a ballot. 

Members also were encouraged to ask questions -- and those questions
were answered, with many of the questions and answers posted on the UTU
website.  

Repeatedly, members were urged to read all the merger materials and to
cast an informed ballot. After this process, the merger was approved by
a 74 percent margin.

Unfortunately, some members -- and even some of our elected leaders --
are trying to convince you that you cast an uninformed vote; that if
you and others will complain or object often and loudly enough, maybe
the "good old days" will return, even though the majority of the
membership recognized why we need this merger and recognized fully that
the SMWIA is an excellent marriage partner.

The fact is that every International officer, almost every general
chairperson, and almost every state legislative director -- publicly,
and in writing -- strongly supported the merger.  

Now, some of them want you to believe they didn’t understand or know
what was going to happen.  In other words, they are saying they are not
very bright, and they want you to believe you aren’t too bright, either.


Instead of criticizing the new system, everybody should get on board
and learn their new positions and the new plays so that we may win the
championship. 

Already, members of Congress and their staff are taking note that our
PAC has more than doubled in size, and that it now speaks for some
three times as many union families as before. And the carriers are
taking note of our stronger influence in Congress and in state
legislatures. 

It is time to get on board and work with the International’s
legislative department to grind out yards under the SMART banner that
makes us all winners. 

We already have one win under our belts -- the passage by the House of
Representatives of H.R. 2095, the Federal Railroad Safety Improvement
Act. 

Let’s grind out more wins under the SMART banner -- a smart choice.
 
October 29, 2007

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 October 2007

Time to vote with your feet.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 October 2007

Here's an email I received today from another ex-employee...was going
to post it under courtesy and professionalism but it belongs here...for
what it's worth!



UTU:  Sold Out, Lock, Stock & Barrel

The following is my own personal opinion about the disturbing news in
the UTU… Ed Michael

We have just heard of one of the most arrogant, back-stabbing actions
by any union leader, ever.  UTU’s President Paul Thompson with the
collusion of the SMWIA President, Michael Sullivan, has just managed to
double-cross every UTU member.

This year’s UTU International convention did not quite go as Paul
Thompson had planned.  He was not running for re-election as President,
instead he was backing VP Dave Hakey for the job.  He pulled out all the
stops to get Hakey elected, but lo and behold a majority of the
delegates were in a house cleaning mood.  Not only did Hakey not get
elected as President, but he was also defeated in the bid to return to
his Vice-President position.

Thompson was livid and would get his revenge, not only on the
delegates, but on the entire UTU membership.  The UTU Board of
Directors meets on the first Tuesday of April and October unless
specially convened by the President.  At the Board of Directors meeting
on October 2, Thompson dropped his bomb.  He announced that SMWIA
President Michael Sullivan had decided to appoint David Hakey to the
position of Assistant to the SMART President and put Hakey in charge of
the SMART Transportation Division.  

That’s right.  Thompson and Sullivan just did an end run around the UTU
election process.  The delegates voted democratically at the convention,
but Paul Thompson didn’t care.  SMWIA President Mike Sullivan was glad
to do Thompson’s bidding, because Thompson had all ready delivered the
UTU to him on a silver platter.  The newly elected UTU officers will
have to answer to Hakey who was twice defeated at the convention.  He
was supposed to go back home and work his seniority position, but now
Thompson and Sullivan have put him in charge.  So much for democratic
elections!

At the recent Western Region General Chairmen’s Association meeting in
California, Thompson had the audacity to tell those assembled that he
was embarrassed by and ashamed of the delegates at the convention.  He
actually accused them of trying to “line their pockets” at the
convention.  Many delegates wanted the same expense money as the
International officers who were in attendance.  Officers received $54
per day for meals and the International paid for their $177 per night
room.  In contrast, the delegates received only $148 per day in per
diem and had to pay for their meals and room out of that per diem.  The
rooms and the meals at the convention hotel were expensive and the
delegates were forced to make up any difference from their own
pockets.

Paul Thompson is doing an untold amount of damage to our union.  The
terms of the SMART merger agreement are just now beginning to become
apparent.  The UTU will become the Transportation Division of SMART. 
Under what terms?

The Transportation Division will have no treasury of its own.  Our dues
money will go directly into the General Fund of SMART.  That means Mike
Sullivan and the Sheet Metal Workers decide how our dues are spent and
they control any money spent in our behalf.  All UTU properties, monies
and assets immediately become the property of SMART.  During the merger
vote we were told the SMWIA spends 40% of their dues on organizing. 
Are they going to spend 40% of our dues on organizing sheet metal
shops? 
Thompson repeatedly promised us the SMART constitution would be created
by inserting the intact UTU constitution into the SMWIA constitution as
Article 21(b).  He said over and over again the UTU constitution would
remain intact.  Now we are hearing that he is gutting it completely
under the flimsy excuse of making it “comply” with the SMWIA
constitution.  He actually bragged that he and David Hakey are doing
things to the constitution that the Delegates never would. 
Any action by UTU delegates to change the constitution will have to be
approved by the Sheet Metal Workers.  That’s right, if our delegates
vote to change the portion of the constitution which governs us, it has
to be approved by the Sheet Metal Workers.  Why do THEY decide how we
function? 
We will never again vote on a merger.  The SMWIA constitution says the
International officers will decide who and when to merge with, not us.

Any on property agreement made by a General Chairman will have to be
approved by the Sheet Metal Workers before it can take affect.
 
Why is all this just now coming to light?  One reason is that we were
not furnished a copy of the SMART constitution in the ballot package we
received during the merger vote.  The merger agreement specified that we
would get a copy to approve.  Why wasn’t it in the ballot package?  Why
were the terms of the merger agreement, which specified the procedures,
not complied with? The SMART constitution will be the rule and guide for
the operation of our union, and we currently have absolutely no idea of
what it says!  How could we legally approve a merger without knowing
anything about the constitution of that merged union?  The fact is
Thompson has refused to distribute the SMART constitution until AFTER
he leaves office on December 31.  I call that really covering your
backside!

Another reason this is just now coming to light is that the merger vote
was deliberately rushed through to keep everyone un-informed.  Thompson
said they had been working on the merger terms for 2 ˝ years.  They
kept it secret from us all that time, but when it was time for us to
vote, it was given the rush job. There was no time allowed for
town-hall meetings.  International officers were kept away so that
questions would go unanswered.  The questions and answers which were
posted on the UTU website were deliberately full of inconsistencies and
contradictions and quite a few of them never got posted until just
before the ballots were counted.

Here is a quote from Paul Thompson about the SMART merger: 

 “In solidarity, SMART will represent its members with clarity of
vision, honesty of intent, and oneness of purpose”. 

Would he have been referring to the clouded clarity of only his own
personal vision, the “honesty?” of his own personal intentions and the
oneness of his own selfish purposes?

Throughout the period of the SMART merger vote, we were continuously
subjected to reminders that SMWIA President Mike Sullivan is currently
the President of the Eugene V. Debs Foundation.  Thomson crowed about
it every chance he got.  With the undemocratic screwing Sullivan and
Thompson are perpetrating on the UTU, I would venture to guess that
Eugene V. Debs is now, justifiably so, spinning in his grave.

 
Ed Michael
 
Salem, IL
UTU Local 979
618.548.4410
 
The first step toward the solution to any problem is optimism.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 October 2007

Its time to start voting them out.  Out with the old, in with the new. 
Have to put people in there that also want change.

Name: dragline
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 October 2007

Other than-All claims are automatically declined. Then unions basically
stick their heads in the sand. What's to discuss. We are forced to pay
money for a bunch of selfish, chicken shit, wasted paychecks union
leader wanna bees. These guys give new meaning to the word PUSSIES!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 October 2007

I'm not sure what he was doing at that time .  Did ya know CP 148 is
known as CP Cardonia ? Back in the 90's he had to many timbers removed
in a switch and caused a TV train to go on the ground . How he never got
fired for that is beyond me !! Another time he gave the wrong track back
and almost got the boom on a truck hit be an engine, a quick thing
employee diverted disaster by grabbing the right handle and swinging
the boom out of the way seconds before it hit. I can tell you stories
about Victor all day.  (HAHA) Actually its scary.  No more Bob and Ted
to help him out now.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 October 2007

Major track improvements must be submitted to Thoburn and where it goes
from there , I'm not sure. Budget...Sure do , you can tell by the
track conditions .  That was the problem with Bob and Ted both were
tight with a buck, thats why I cant understand why ther were fired. 
Alot of welded rail should be going to the derailment site . but its
time for the curve patch teams and rail gangs for this area. (Ohio)
(New York). Ol Victor He should have retired a year or two ago but cant
let go . Maybe its the young wife he has and needs to keep insured.
Reminds me of a story about Victor , A few years ago the dispatcher
said to Victor " I need you to clear up we have alot of trains to
run" and Victor replied (in somewhat broken english) Right now ?? You
would have had to heard him say it to really appreciate that one.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 October 2007

Isn't the topic here Denied Claims?  You guys are talking about
everything but denied claims.  Who the hell run this board?

Name: BRM
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 October 2007

Listen to This

Im a coalfield conductor/utility employee and been with the company for
almost 10yrs and every year this place is getting worse but this year so
far is going to be one for the books. Some of  our great local and
division leaders have started a campaign to advertise or sagest or even
force local coal company's to consider nonunion contractors to load
there trains or be shut down. Other new business that wants to open are
having problems getting the okey from local officals that dont want
anymore business and would like to close half of what is already
working now. Neither union have tried to step in  to save jobs so far
the company has forced one company and are working on 2 more as we know
of. Its the tip of the sword after they cut the mine local crews out
then all they got to cut next is the main line crews to 1
person.........

                                           BRM

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 October 2007

Yes , I did say morale is low and it is, but we still try to maintain
the tracks as best as possible. We dont want to see the public harmed
either ! We know what a derailed train can do as far as chemicals and
other nasty materials transported by rail. The thing is management says
costs muxt be kept low so the stockholders make money but is that the
truth? I think not .With the wages paid to these clowns....
What about when Snow went to the government ? He took over 61 million
dollars of CSX money with him . Snow and people like him must not be
religious folks . There is a special place in Hell for them.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 October 2007

Am I the only one who noticed Positive Train Control buried in the House
Bill that just passed?

It's there, just look for it.  UTU just sold out to one man crews. 
Dumb asses.

And the elimination of Limbo time and getting you to the terminal
within twelve hours, with ten hours off and one 24 hour off period
every week?

Now your ability to earn is going down quickly.  You will have to
always be marked up in order to earn that $60,000, because that's all
you'll be able to earn.  You can kiss that magical $100,000 goodbye.

Trade rest for money.  It's always been that way, but at your option. 
Soon you will have no choice.    

The UTU is so happy over "quality of life" for their members, but
there won't be much quality at $10/hour.

There will be no buyout for oldheads - there's no reason to do one.

All I ask is that you read the bill as passed by the House.  Go to the
union websites and get the references, then go to the House website for
the unedited version of the bill as passed; you will be in for a shock.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 October 2007

CSXT Employee Wins Rail Industry's Professional Environmental Award 
Keith A. Brinker Honored for Leading Environmental Initiatives
Released: Oct 24, 2007

Jacksonville, FL - October 24, 2007 - The Association of American
Railroads today granted its top award for environmental professionals,
the 2007 North American Environmental Employee Excellence Award, to
Keith A. Brinker, manager of environmental remediation at CSX
Transportation.

Brinker received the award during an annual railroad environmental
conference. A 28-year railroad veteran, Brinker's accomplishments
include: helping to establish CSXT's first Environmental Operations
Department; devising numerous standard operating procedures for the use
of chemicals and cleaners; and organizing CSXT's internal Environmental
Crimes Unit (ECU), which ensures compliance with government and company
regulations. 

"Perhaps [the railroad industry's] most important environmental
advantage comes from dedicated employees like Keith, who work
continuously to further reduce the industry's environmental
footprint," said Association of American Railroads President and CEO
Edward R. Hamberger.

While serving as chief chemist at CSXT's terminal in Waycross, Ga,
Brinker developed a process to reduce his company's consumption of
chemicals and cleaners by 75 percent. His efforts led to the use of
products with lower concentrations of potentially harmful chemicals,
simultaneously reducing employee exposures and generating cost
efficiencies.

Brinker was one of five railroad industry individuals nominated for the
award. 

CSX Transportation Inc. is a principal operating company of CSX
Corporation. CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is one of
the leading transportation companies, providing rail, intermodal and
rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network
spans 21,000 miles with service to 23 eastern states and the District of
Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river and lake ports. More
information about CSX Corporation and its subsidiaries is available at
the company's web site, www.csx.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 October 2007

"Formally CSX Fan"  didnt exactly come out and say it, but Phelps and
Vitale were former Conrail. They are weeding out former Conrail
management. I know both guys fired and can tell you , Bob Phelps went
above and beyond the call of duty being out at night in the rain and
snow right with the M of W people ! They really fucked up by getting
rid of Bob. Now Ted ....Uh  thats another matter....We wont discuss him
, just that he never bothered anyone.  All I can say is CSX either hires
more people or ya think its bad now , its gonna get worse....Moral in
the M of W is at an all time low.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 October 2007

They're all assholes.  Thats what this company wants, harassment
towards all employees.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 October 2007

we have a sawed off runt for a train master on the atlanta subdivision
by the name of Daniel Rice....he aint hardcore as wolfe yet....he more
of the hide in the bushes and go behind your back type asshole

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 October 2007

Yea nobody likes that sawed off little bastard. He's a punk. I bet he
got his ass kicked a lot when he was younger. Now he vents his anger on
everyone on the Florence division. Every dog has his day.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 October 2007

i hear rumors that Wolfe is so hated he used to have to keep bodyguards
around him when he went somewhere... is he really that bad?

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 October 2007

i think tom wolfe needs to go on a canoe trip and learn to squeal like a
pig!!!!
but i may be wrong.....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 October 2007

I think CSX needs to fire tony ingram and hire someone who has worked in
railroading that has a good ideal of running the rail road and tom wolf
needs to be fired to dumb ass

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 October 2007

I think CSX needs to fire tony ingram and hire someone who has word in
railroading that has a good ideal of running the rail road and tom wolf
needs to be fired to dumb ass

Name: B&O Hogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 October 2007

Your math is good. I retired in 1985. My grandkids taught me the
internet, I like weather.com  In keeping up with CSX I stumbled on this
sight a month or so ago. Is it really this bad? What a shame.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 October 2007

To B&O Hogger:

I love hearing those stories of the good old days with railroading. 
Back then they really had it together, and I agree with you when it
comes to todays management.  I hate them, don't trust them, and I will
never be a team player with CSXT.  I will just come to work, stick it
too them every chance I get, collect my paycheck and go home.        
CSX SUCKS!!

Name: B&O Hogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 October 2007

Boys, I'm from the old school, not many of us "steamers" left. I
hired out in 1943 when the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad was great, it
was family. The trainmaster would walk up the street and play with your
kids in the evening. We tore the hell out of locomotives back in the 40s
50s 60s 70s.  When we had minor accidents,especially in the yard, the
shop officials would get right in there and staighten grab irons with a
torch and the transportation crew would really appreciate it.  There was
no firing back then because the Baltimore and Ohio knew the talent they
had working for them. Then on days they needed trains to get to the
terminal; we didn't mind skipping lunch to get them in.  This was team
work between management and us blue collars, it was great, something I
feel for you younger workers today.  Things didn't change when the C&O
merged with us. I couldn't tell any difference. But when Chessie
formed, there were little differences.  You could still cover up things
but not quite as much. Still Chessie was an excellent place to work. 
But the real changes came in the early eighties with CSX. It did not
happen over night but within the year and I don't remember the year,
the trust began to disapear. I really believe the problem comes from
management coming out of college and not going up through the ranks
like the old days.  Today's officials in middle management have not a
clue and they are afraid of their own shadow and this creates
insecurities that they take out on the workers.  I have not the answers
you desire, only memories and my final days here on earth. They were
great memories, we made America great and won the war for you young
lads today.  I wish I could help you and I do feel for you. If somehow
Jacksonville could clean house but this would take a decade.  I read
your modern rulebook and don't see how you get anything done on a
shift.  Good luck and be safe so you can go home at the end of your
shift.  Long live the Baltimore and Ohio railroad.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 October 2007

Just a few comments, M of W in Ashtabula (Erie West) has 2 Track
inspectors (1 Yard and 1 mainline)2 forman, 2 vehicle operators, 2
backhoe operators 1 Welder and 1 welder helper. and usually during the
summer the vehicle operators jobs are vacant. So , you have appx. 10
people to maintain the track from CP 97 to CP 163 . 66 miles . The
workforce is getting older so your just not as energetic as you were
when you were 20 - 30 something. and the work is getting harder due to
the fact since CSX bought Conrail there are less rail and tie gangs
comming through the area. so more maintainence is needed to replace
ties, change rail and so forth.  I forgot to mention there is a
floating gang with 5 men on it  and 1 smoothing gang consisting of a
Tamper and regulator that covers Marion, Cleveland and Ashtabula. (Part
of the Indy line, Short line and Erie west line) Not many men for the
work needed to be done !

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 October 2007

It has come to my attention that Bob Phelps and Ted Vitale (Erie West)
were both fired this past friday October 19th .In relation to the
derailment in Painsville, Ohio . Other than Bob hiring his son in law
and keeping him working while higher seniority men were furloughed ,
Bob was a real RR man. and Old Ted was the RR's best man when it came
to keeping his budget low , he was a pretty good fella too. Good Luck
to both. There are some short lines hiring.
The next person that should come under scrutiny is Skipper Dykes from
the Akron east side , He has a brother that has been selling RR ties
for years. and for the past number of years has been in RR construction
business and has been known to use his influence to make them both alot
of money. Safety ? He has covered up many injuries and just recently
had one he couldnt cover up , not bad though , been injury free since
93. Just goes to prove The injury reports CSX publishes are phoney. 
Why does Engineering give men safety days ? If you report an injury the
guys in the sub division and service lane lose their free days. Then you
are known as the guy who screwed up everyone's free days. I finally am
fed up with the nepotisim and other bullshit that goes on up here in
the north so stay tuned folks ! More to come.

Name: mi
E-mail: mi@cssucks.com
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 October 2007

He tried to suck my dick dont matter if u rmarried

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 October 2007

I was fuloughed twice, but I was lucky that I was a reservist and could
go fly missions during that time until I was called back.   Otherwise,
I would probably have become a boomer.

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 October 2007

one more comment before the meds kick in.....it used to be one must have
7 months, 1 day per month equals a month in the fiscal year july to
july, it took me 4 years before i could collect unemployment out
here....you people arent the first to be furloughed and you sure wont
be the last...to this day i try to pay cash account of who knows when
the economy will hit the dumper and i wont have a pay check...kind of
like our fathers 0r (grand fathers) who grew up in the depresstion and
never had faith in the economy after that, we have had 25 + years of a
good economy.  some of these older guys havent experenced a bad economy
but it could be around the corner

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 October 2007

the ret.is run by the us govt and was the first unemployment system in
america, it was developed to pay rr'ers a income while not being able
to hold a job on the rr. it was a whoping 12.50 aday when i hired out.
i cant see how the rr would be allowed terminate you  for exercising
your right of collecting unemployment benefits. this is what i would
consider a bunch of bunk. if your interested call the rr ret board...im
pushing 40 yrs here and i may go for 50 just as the old timers did me
and let you all collect your unemployment dividends.
   as for the no life part of me you are right ! i work and talk crap
on here.....near 40 years of jet lag.....can you expect me to be
anywhere close to normal?
i put three kids through college by working long hours out here and its
just normal to do after all of these years......do i have a life? hell
no.... semper csx!!!! they need me.......wheres my medication?????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 October 2007

Hey Conductor:
Is the guy you talking about named Gary Bethel?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 October 2007

Hey HTLong

Any truth to that rumor?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 October 2007

I have one for you. I was working out of Atlanta, GA. Last year we had a
changing of the guard. We received a new superintendant and his asst.
Well, I tell you he cleaned house took away 8 jobs from the yard and
that really helped me out alot. Because of that stunt 22 of us lost our
jobs. 
We kept hearing it's going to get better. Well, that was a lie. I came
to work for the railroad and I lost my house, my truck and my financess
are in ruins.
It was great to work for CSX. Yeah right!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: fuckedloughed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 October 2007

i heard a nasty rumor that if we claime unemployment we would give up
our senority.  please tell me this is bullshit.  i am new here and dont
know what to believe.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 October 2007

We must be nice to HTL!
He works hard and long, and adds a lot to this site. Heck he is an
insider, and above that an ENGINEER. Or Conductor Supervisor?
He also posts on all of the cat's every hour on the hour? Well not
quite that bad, but he is every where on this site everyday, wonder
what else he does, or if he has time to run that locomotive? I think he
is that old fat guy with the pin striped hat at the crossing.
HUMMMMM

GOOFY

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 October 2007

Now...now HTL, come along with me and take your meds, like a good old
head! Pretty soon you will be feeling like you old cantankerous
self!

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 October 2007

i love my job,i am so lucky to work for csx,i love my job, i am so lucky
to work for csx,i love my job,i am so lucky to work for csx,i love my
job,i am so lucky to work for csx

Name: Me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 October 2007

Why bitch about your job? Be glad you have a job, regardless what it is.
I understand theres some major BS with a railroad job, but what job
does'nt come without BS? Its not a perfect world out there.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 October 2007

Your all fired!!!!! Bye Bye!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 October 2007

it sounds like csx and union pacific are owned by the same people!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 October 2007

Good thing we (engineers) accepted this new agreement.  Now I can mark
off for union business to attend the monthly meeting since I am
president.  Whoa, Rich Lanham, he told me how to spell it, says I
can't due to manpower shortage.  Ya gotta be kidding me? Where are all
these men they hired? Oh wait, they are furloughed!! How can there be a
manpower shortage with furloughed employees???  CSX sucks!!

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 October 2007

I'm sending it out to be matted and framed.  I figure if I sell it on
ebay, I might be able to parley it enough to make up for the interest
that I missed on it.

Name: br
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 October 2007

i know back in 2004 our good local chairman vanhorn in fitzgerald
collected 211 claims in one year by the way 149 of these was for
himself while he was marked off on union business or safety. i should
say our ex local chairman. he only made excess of $194,00.00 plus over
$15,000.00 lodge 1790 paid him to collect time claims. our good general
chairman hancock refused to do anything even though the internation
president thompson said he wood handle. as of today nothing has or will
be done this this  vanhorn is still working in fitzgerald.time heals a
lot of things maybe this is most likely over. this shows you that a
local chairman can collect claims even if most of them is for hisself
and csx will pay them. if you ever meet a big bullfrog that is vanhorn.
you can tell by his croak. he stole these claims from the young condrs
who paid good money for jobs.

Name: HTL
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 October 2007

WOW I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT ONE LOOKS LIKE ,IVE HEARD OF ONE OR TWO
PEOPLE SAYING THEIR CLAIM WAS PAID ....BUT IVE NEVER SEEN ONE!

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 October 2007

Just got a claim paid with a date of 4 Dec 2004

Name: Michael Ward
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 October 2007

YOUR ALL FIRED!!!!!! YOU HEAR THAT??? FIRED!!!!!!! YOU ARE ALL FUCKING
FIRED!!!!!! YOU WILL NEVER WORK HERE AGAIN!!!!!! THIS IS FOR THE
EMPLOYEE WHO REPORTED DEFECTED TRACK TO THE FRA. SINCE I CAN'T FIND
THE SNITCH, I PUNISH ALL OF YOU!!!!!! FIRED!!!!!! FUCKING FIRED!!!!!!!!
HOW DARE YOU INTERFERE WITH MY BONUSES!!!!! FIRED!!!!!! NOW GO APPLY FOR
MCDONALD'S AS A BURGER FLIPPER!!!! I WILL COME IN TO MCDONALD'S WHEN
YOU WORK THERE AND GET YOU FIRED THERE TO!!!! I LOVE TO FIRE
PEOPLE!!!!!!

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 October 2007

try gettring 2 pct to agree or follow through on anything...and the
company knows this 
i would say 95 pct never follow up on a claim period.....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 October 2007

I would like to know why all claims seem to be researched and or denied
for months on end?! We all our out here to make a living and feed our
families, but it seems when an employee puts in a legitimate claim he
is turned down or it takes so many months to get it they just forget
about it. So my point is everyone who has a claim please don't give up
flood them with paper work, phone calls, and e-mails maybe they will
someday take the hint and start paying them this also goes for your
blood sucking union stay on them as well to push for your money that
you are intitled to!!!!
I would also like to say that we need to MAKE our unions work for US
and not themselves. All of these union officials that come to you
smiling and shaking your hand are in your wallet with the free hand
taking all they can get and not helping you AT ALL. They seem to me
afraid of taking a stand and supporting us. Why don't we make them do
what we need to do all it takes is 51% of the employees to make some
major changes. Hell lets just get rid of them and start over with our
own union that looks out for all crafts and takes a stand for all.
It's time for a major change!!!!!!!!!!

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 October 2007

i hear you, but if you work for the rr you have to live with the
furloughs, some people have never been furloughed,me ive transfered
twice to keep working and i still have many many years of being
furloughed.....whinning wont get you back, go find a job to carry you
over till you are called back, i once was off a total of four years
straight...not one day with the rr.
 dont sit back and wait for a call, go forth with your life and decide
if the rr is what you want to do for a living ,if it is dont buy the
new car ,pay cash for everything then the furloughs wont hurt so
bad....been there done that

Name: gear jammer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 September 2007

Well b/r I agree totally with that it the same here in Erwin, Tn people
cut off and pools going over mileage and extraboards exausted.I was
furloughed Fri and since have had four calls to work one day/trip
only!!!! I laughed at the caller and said BYE!!!!!! And will do so
until called back to work.This is b/s and so far all twenty seven
furloughed employees have NOT taken any calls . ERwin had a sickout a
few years back and REALLY got some results let me tell ya!!!!!! There
are more young people out there than ever before,and most of them could
give a shit theyve already spent their 401-ks from other jobs to get
this one. and are already broke like me so the company cant really fuck
us any more than they have!! IF the company would ease up and put some
jobs on we would get trains down the road with minumal delays and csx
would get its productivity back. These bean counters so to speak they
dont think about it...... the less employees csx has the LESS
management they need to run trains and so forth. Were only human and
can do but so much, and if were unhappy thats normally a lot less.

Name: b/ r.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 September 2007

on the fitzgerald subdivision we have engineers jobs that work from
fitzgerald to jax. fla. after arriving on train at jax they deadhead
back home making 300 miles a day. aabout 15 crews in this pool is
making between $5,000.00 to $6,000.00 each pay period. this pool is
making way over earnings while at fitzgerald 30 young men is cut off it
looks like  our local and general chairman hancock in jax would see to
it that these engineers jobs would be regulated a little better givcn
about 10 more condrs that is cut off back to work. labor relation in
jax should wake up after three months of this and do something for
these new employes who paid to go to school just to be cut off.

Name: BoxcarBob@Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 September 2007

sorry but I have to check off every category with this CSX outfit. 
Never seen so many people getting their rocks off trying to give the
workers a hard time.  Question something and right away its
insubordination.  Especially up here on the Albany service lane with
that prick Braman and Gaylord.  Probably get a boner just reading this
so they know what shits they are.  Here at Dewitt we got real problems
with a UTU safety coordinator who spends all his time riding with the
company officials when they make the observations.  After they go by
the job goes with them.  Every terminal on this service lane is
watching out for the management and the union safety guys.  If you see
company man Milt Brill make sure you give him the finger for us here at
Dewitt.  Nice to know that our general chairmen won't listen to any of
the complaints that have been brought to him.  I guess that you have to
Dick McVeen before he dicks you.  Keep it up company union boys we gone
to the BLE&T.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 September 2007

Hey HTL:

Yeah...you know your right. I hope management sat up and took notice of
that post. You wont know when or where but it's just a matter of time
before someone goes over the edge.

Between the unions and management it's lonely out there...the unions
stabbing you in the back while they smile and shake your
hand...management trying to fire you to cover their incompetence, and
labor (for the most part) to apathetic to care!

Well maybe, if in fact, CSX beats out the NS for the Harriman (I have
my doubts) Ingram will move on...too much time left to place any bets.
I fear Brown wont be any better and that still leaves Ward, who is
ultimately responsible.

Make sure you save some vacation time to attend the 2008 annual meeting
next May/June...should be some crow hoppin' and toe dancing!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 September 2007

Well 2007 is the year of the unions laying down and letting CSX stick
them in the ass.......

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 September 2007

nomo,
my biggest problem is i do rock the boat ,i am from the generation when
the union didnt take any crap,and wouldnt ever think of using the union
as a springboard into csx management!
this bunch of moral midgets that run our union make me shiver! if only
i could shut my mouth and ride it out.....but  i dont think i would
ever be a very good sheep, if i do go down i will go down knowing i
fought the good fight.
as an earlier poster stated someone is going to go postal working for
these captain bly wantabees! and i am surprised it hasnt happened yet.

the managemant has some kind of need of being important? like a
trainmaster is a job to envy??? the trainmasters are the real slaves of
this rr. and are to dumb to know....on call 24/7/365 daysa year???? yeah
they are somebuddy allright somebuddy with a personality disorder....ah
but the morning is yet young and i dont want to start the day off
thinking about the idiots i have to work for so im going to go out and
change the oil in my car that csx enabled me to buy.....with whats left
after alimony payments from working for csx..
as you say nomo, have a nice csx ethical day!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 September 2007

Hey HTL:

It must be agonizing for the old heads like you to watch what is
happening. You are all between a rock and a hard place...CSX and RR
retirement. In hind sight, lowering retirement to age 60 was like Manna
from heaven to your generation.

I can fully appreciate your predicament and your sediments towards not
rocking the boat. If I were in you shoes, I would do the exact same
thing...bide my time!

I would be interested in knowing if you would feel the same way had
they not lowered the retirement age and you were looking at an
additional 5 years until retirement.

The younger men with 15 or 20 years left to go are going to have to
take a stand however. If they continue to let management and the unions
bully them they wont live long enough to enjoy the fruits of their
labor...inmates in the penitentiary have it better than CSX contract
employees do.

Maybe I should worry about it because most of them will be fired and I
wonder how much longer CSX can last under the current management!

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 September 2007

loco 10 -20 years,
getting fired by this motley bunch isnt a funny matter to me!
unless you yesum bossman them all the time you run a risk of getting
fired ,you should know the slime you work for?  you could be next ! if
there is too many injuries....their answer to the problem is that
everyone is passing the E test so......they feel they need more
failures to stop the injuries? and they can take it the other way that
no one passes E test so thats why there are so many injuries????
when the fact is everyone is so busy thinking about what and when to
say the right little safety jingle they forget about railroading and
kaboom...they get injured, the Big bossman is always right and he will
never concide that this moronic E test blitz is the cause of all of the
injuries ....so 10-20 beware you maybe the next victim of csx ethic's 
nomo i worry for my job daily...i have only age to wait on iam well
into the upper half of the 30 years....i pray i make it ...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 September 2007

umm BigB was failed out of the training program for racists comments, no
wait he got fired for watching porn on the train while cubbing....shit i
cant remember......

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 September 2007

Hey HTL  Big B don't work for the railroad either-remember-he was fired
cause he wasn't a woman-or was it NOT hired cause he wasn't gay-or was
it harassed cause he wasn't black*****I'm so confused****

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 September 2007

big b,
i disagree with you you dont work for the union ,you work for the
railroad, they hired you not the union.  The union is here as a mafia
type protection policy where you are forced to pay or the union will go
to the railroad and ask that you be fired for not  paying the protection
money.  

the union was a much needed organazation and still could be valuable if
it werent filled with greedy bastards ...like the prez who spent
58,000.00 to take his grand kids to see lebron james play!

just a question for you how many time slips from the ssa have you been
paid????
yeah just what i thought..... natta one........way to go vp sorrow! it
seems you are the only one patting your back other than the company!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 September 2007

CSX NASHVILLE DEVISION CUT THE SKATE JOBS OFF LAST WEEK. nOW EVERYTHING
IS SO DAM BACKED UP THEY ARE CALLING TO EXTRA JOBS PER SHIFT. hOW DO
YOU SAVE MONEY THIS WAY. KISS MY BLACK ASS CSX AND BY THE WAY THANKS
FOR THE OVERTIME

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 September 2007

Thank you csx for taking away my off days. I will look forward to
working as slow as possible toward my new away from home terminal of
north bergen.  Hopefully septa and nj transit get screwed also, as my
conductor walks my train for no reason during rush hour.  I hate the
railroad.

Name: blind man blue
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 September 2007

You are about the last person who should dispense advice Big B.

Name: Big B
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 September 2007

Just remember you work for the union not the railroad. CSX could care
less about you and your problems. I guess you could say you work for a
temp service. You only work when they need you.


Big B

Name: DL LUCIDO
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 September 2007

Any body out there currently furloughed by this great corporation,
consider that there are more railroads than this one. I hired out on
CSX 4 years ago furloughed on markup day, went on two temp transfers 7
months apiece just to find that there was still no chance of marking
up, and they hired 13 more people that will be in the same bed soon. I
then had my fill and applied to a short line railroad and everything
couldn't be better, the management takes care of their people, worked
both years straight now no furloughs, work 40 hours a week, sometimes
weekends if some work still needs to be done. You don't have a union
but you don't really need one here. you DO have to be cross qualified
as a conductor and engineer but you will be on CSX soon enough, with
their wish for one extra board. Especially the people that had to pay
to get furloughed YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY LOYALTY TO THESE
ASSHOLES,they didn't show any to you when they hired you knowing there
was no work for you to begin with. Just consider your options, the short
line is like any other railroad job you still have to follow the rules,
show up when your called, and be safe.  IN MY OPINION IT'S A BETTER
WAY OF RAILROADING.

Name: be happy in your work
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 September 2007

boys look out for Warren Snyder at collinwood , ohio , he is the worlds
worst snitch!!!! and he does it to cover up his drinking problem . he
saved hi ass years ago when he was busted for stealing . he rated out
other men for drinking . so watch him !!!

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 September 2007

To Locomotive Engineer 30

Nice post. I never agree very often, but that was a good response that
makes sense, and tells the story with with passion, and concern for the
injured family member. NICE JOB

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 September 2007

Ms Stiff, The truth is your brother was messing around on railroad
tracks. Tracks aren't short cuts for trespassers which we see
everyday, there not hang out spots, and trains definitely aren't there
for the bored to place objects on the tracks, throw rocks at, or for
their amusement. It's my job and others risk our lives by being where
they don't belong. If your brother wasn't playing chicken what was he
doing? If I see a train I get the hell out of the way I don't hurry up
and cross to beat it. If he fell on the tracks and he got killed the
train had to be real close. Which makes him an unfortunate fool in my
opinion. Your post needs to be in the 'Safety First' thread on this
site mabey Pines or Nelson will sympathize with you. As terrible as it
is to lose a loved one and I'm sorry for your lose I feel sorry for
the train crew that was placed in that unfortunate circumstance they
are the true victoms.

Name: Bill "Keg" Gilleran
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 September 2007

Somebody tell the idiots down here (New Orleans and Mobile) that the
conductors are not getting a CN type agreement, that management is
lying in the hopes that they do not lose a whole bunch of conductors to
the CN/IC again.

Name: Lynda Stiff
E-mail: Ween582@yahoo.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 September 2007

This article was posted in the same newspaper by the same writer because
the police retracted their statement.
-Lynda Stiff



Sister speaks out about man's death
Tuesday, September 4, 2007 12:41 AM CDT 
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BY KEN KOSKY 
kkosky@nwitimes.com 
219.548.4354

VALPARAISO | Lynda Stiff loved her "little big brother" so much, and
appreciated how he always watched out for her, that she got him a
Father's Day card this year.

Her love for her brother is also why, after he was struck and killed by
a train two months ago in Valparaiso, she got a tattoo in his honor. The
artwork -- a green shamrock bearing his nickname, Pug, and hers, Ween --
adorns her right calf.

Stiff, 25, of Hobart, is speaking out because she wants people to know
the truth about her brother, Patrick Stiff, 23, of Valparaiso, and how
he died.

Although a friend of Patrick Stiff originally said the two were playing
chicken with the train when Patrick Stiff was struck, the full
investigation shows Stiff was not playing chicken at the moment of his
death, Valparaiso Detective Lt. John Ross said. Patrick Stiff got off
the tracks, but while still near them apparently stumbled and was
struck.

"My investigation shows it could have been an accident. We're never
going to know what really happened," Ross said.

Lynda Stiff said Internet sites have made fun of her brother for
playing chicken and losing, when that's not really what happened.

"Accidents occur. It doesn't mean you're an idiot, and it doesn't
mean this last thing is his whole life," she said.

"He really wasn't that person. He was a good and kind person. He was
my little big brother. He took care of me."

Lynda Stiff said their father left when she was 14 and Patrick Stiff
was 12. She said her brother was always there for her.

She said her brother loved to sing and sounded just like Joe Cocker and
that he had a band. He also loved watching the Chicago Bears and
"Ultimate Fighter." He also was known for his big red van, which he
equipped with a sofa and recliner.

Patrick Stiff, a Portage High School graduate, worked for ALA
Industries in Valparaiso and previously worked as a cook for Horseshoe
Casino in Hammond. He was known as an excellent cook and hosted dinner
parties, Lynda Stiff said.

She said her brother wrote happy birthday on his belly and woke her up
with a song on her 17th birthday.

"He'd do stuff like that all the time," she said. "He was a funny
kid. He had a lot of fun."

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 September 2007

CSX Labor Relations Announces Agreement With BMWED Union
News Archive

Released: Sep 10, 2007

CSXT and the Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employees Division of
the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (BMWED) arrived at an
agreement Aug. 23 that resolves contracting claims related to various
types of track work. The settlement of the seven-year dispute
identifies the work that will be performed by CSXT's
maintenance-of-way employees and the work that may be contracted out by
CSXT's Engineering Department. 

The settlement also includes payment of many outstanding contracting
claims to affected maintenance-of-way employees. Several unresolved
categories related to the contracting dispute still remain, but both
parties are committed to return to the bargaining table to find a
mutually agreeable solution to those issues.

Steve Crable, vice president-Labor Relations, praised the efforts of
both sides in solving the long-running dispute. "Given the
complications generated by the contracting issue, the representatives
of the company and the union did a great job of finding an acceptable
compromise. Their efforts exhibit the tough but constructive bargaining
that reflects a new standard for labor relations at CSXT."


Wonder when the UTU is going to make something happen....or if they
even can.......

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 September 2007

UTU CONTRACT? ANYBODY? ANYBODY?

Name: Chevy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 September 2007

Hey Jones,


     It is very apparent you are'nt a Locomotive Engineer for 20-30
years, Hell, I'll bet you are either one of three things 1)Company
Officer 2) Internet Troll  3) Republican.  I think 80% for 80% and so
on has a valid point, If CSX won't pay (valid) claims, stick it to em
every chance you can. And further more why would you visit a website
titled CSX-SUCKS.com, and defend the company.

Name: BoxcarBob@Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 September 2007

Would someone please check and see where the Syracuse terminal Safe
Returns money has gone?  Last time someone saw it Milt Brill had the
money on his way to Alexandria Bay with Braman and Gaylord.  They had a
party at Bonnie Castle Resort with boat rides and booze and we never got
our picnic pack grill sets.

The fact is that Braman is letting his buddy Brill spend our safty
money on stuff that never gets back to the employees.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 September 2007

Jeff,  If you have no complaints, then there is no reason for you to
ever complain.  No reason for you to even be here.  The rest of us
don't like money being stolen from us, the rest of us don't like the
harassment & intimidation either. We will continue to bash these
crooks.

Name: Jeff
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 September 2007

I can't believe this site and those who blog on here. Why complain
about such a great job. I needed a job back in 86 and CSX had offered
me one. I had two small boys and a wife to support which was nearly
impossible with the job I had at the time, (restaurant kitchen
supervisior). But when I heard CSX was hiring I had to try to get it.
And you know what, I had no trouble taking care of my family, and with
my income, my wife was able to work less hours and be at home with the
kids. My boys are grown up now, and one wants to work here as well.
Without this job, I don't know where I would be right now.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 September 2007

Jones,
       I don't know who you are, but I know that you aren't an
engineer with 20/30 years out here.  Any engineer that has been out
here that long wouldn't be defending this wanna be railroad.

Name: jones
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 September 2007

here again i see where everyone is bitching ,crying about having a job
if you non hackers dont like it here just quit and leave. it make sick
to read this stupid shit on here. one day the company will shut this
nonsence down for good.

Name: 80% for 80% and so on!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 September 2007

Hey Gober,

    I always show the correct arrival and departure times at each
industry.  The only thing that not correct is the work performed for
the customer.  By the way the majority of work is performed in DTC
territory with very few other trains on the same territory, Once the
Dispatcher gives us the blocks he could care less what we are doing, he
has more important trains to deal with.  When I don't report work it is
not pull and spotting of cars, it is switching out cars within the
customers facility for their convenience. Weighing, cross-checking
their scales, spotting at dock, etc.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 September 2007

Mr Conductor 80/80
You can show hour after hour at any place that you want.
Heck you can show 2 hours anywhere on the screen that you want.
I can assure you the billing is correct, at the end of the day.
If you falsely show time, you know the rest of the story.

GOOFY

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 September 2007

Mr Conductor 80/80
You can show hour after hour at any place that you want.
Heck you can show 2 hours anywhere on the screen that you want.
I can assure you the billing is correct, at the end of the day.
If you falsely show time, you know the rest of the story.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 September 2007

now were talking..whenever they ripped me off i got them back 10 times
over..use to call in a personal day and get paid as if i was
there..sunday was go to breakfast and go home and not hit a
lick..accidently misplace important mail,and erase computer discs..they
have no idea the loss....we were always the redheaded stepchild..i
remember getting 16 hours overtime and wasn't even at work....all the
bosses hate them to..it was cool when we went shopping for
supplies..one guy even got caught charging cigaretts and lotto tickets
on the company credit card..they don't even care..fired him and he got
his retirement and suied them and won..had hillbillys from another
division take over..all they ever seen was coal cars..i think they all
had black lung..they didn't even give a good reach around..

Name: 80% for 80% and so on!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 September 2007

I am currently holding down a regular assigned local.  Every time I have
a valid claim declined, I don't report additional work performed for
customers.  I will sometimes spend 1-2 hours in a industry switching
out cars for the customer.  Guess what CSX it's all free to the
customer,  I'm not sure how much CSX is losing, but I'm sure it far
exceeds my declined claim.  Try it sometime, the feeling is great.   
Have a ethical CSX day.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 September 2007

Low points? Try bottomed out here at the CSX

Name: Buzzard
E-mail: mommagreyhound@att.net
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 September 2007

Wow, is it really that bad? I mean every job has it's low-points. But
this is unreal!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 August 2007

This is the stupidist web site that I have ever seen. I have looked at
almost every page and have seen nothing but retarded photos with some
"whitty" caption against CSX and some unverified claims and
complaints against CSX. Maybe the person in charge of this site can
tell us why he has such a stick in his ass about CSX! This site just
shows that some people should not be allowed access to a computer!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 August 2007

Go figure, someone that isnt an employee saying CSX doesnt suck....why
dont you tell that to the guys that invested their 10 grand on a job
then got furloughed/laid off before they even had a chance to work....
better yet, go some where and stfu.

Name: THE GREAT ONE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 August 2007

I LOVE YOUR GUY'S BITCHIN ABOUT THE JOB!!!! I FIND IT VERY ENTERTAINING
REALLY I DO. PLEASE COME AND TELL ME SOME MORE HORROR STORIES ABOUT
WORKING FOR THE MARVALOUS CSX TRANSPORTATION. AFTER ALL, CSX DOES NOT
SUCK, BUT GUESS WHO DOES????????????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 August 2007

When Nick Male & Matt Sell were working in Columbus, they violated more
rules than a group of employees put together.  Watch out for Matt Sell,
he was taken out of service for rule violations while trying to sabotage
a train.  They are both prime examples of unethical practices.

Name: BoxcarBob@Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 August 2007

yea CSX sure does suck along with Nick Male and the boys at Dewitt who
keep threatening to hold investigations if the crews don't stop
putting in claims for rule and contract violations.  That's too bad
Nick.  Have to talk to Braman and Gaylord and find out just how to do
this without going to jail.

Name: Noone
E-mail: Noone@csx.com
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 August 2007

I found a CSX super on injury leave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYbwUesXGX8

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 August 2007

i see this site is not only worthless but is a lot like csx..gone to
hell..one jerk..

Name: Special Forces
E-mail: wisdom@thinksmart.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 August 2007

DO NOT RESPOND TO MR. PINES:

Mr. Pines gets his thrills from aggravating anyone he can get upset
enough to respond to him.  Mr. Pines you need not reply, because I will
not read your post anyway.  This post is a few words to the wise. 
"Stop reading his posts, he is playing you for a fool".  If you
respond to him you lower yourselves to his level.  Which seems to be of
a nonconsructive level, and you waste good valuable mental energy that
can be used to venting your problems about CSX, and finding proactive
solutions to solving them.  If anyone responds to any of his posts
after reading this, apparently your not one of the wise I'm referring
to, life must be hard for you.  Treat his posts like a big zit on your
a**, it may give you some discomfort, but if your ignore it, it will
eventually go away.  If you keep poking at it (reading his posts) and
giving it attention (responding) it may get infected and stay a while
longer.

Name: Buckwheat
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 August 2007

That s right MR Rufus. You deserved that job. Not Mr Big B. I be thinkin
that B must stand for bigot. We don t need no mo clansmen working on
this RR. Hell it be bad enough with the wet backs trying to bury us.
Buckwheat say O TAY to Mr Rufus. Mr Big B go to the back of the bus.

Name: Rufus
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 August 2007

Say ba Big ba B ba. I ba don ba know ba who ba you ba made ba mad ba.
Yhey ba told ba my ba black ba ass ba I has ba a job ba and ba i ba
toooks it!!! I ba sho ba hopes it ba warnt ba yo ba job ba that i ba
tookens. I ba do ba be liken it out ba here ba on da ralerode. I ba be
gettin ba bunch of money and they ba even be given ba me nasty, nasty
naked ba women magerzines to be looken at when everba I be wantn to.
Sho thaught that when ba they ba booted my but outa da 9th grade i was
neva going to ba be makin dis tipes of mony. And FREEEEE skool tooba.
Wels i gots to go ba cuse i ba be marked way up an i sstill got to ba
polish all ba my ba bling.  Good ba luk to yho on getin a ralerode
joba.

Name: Big B
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 August 2007

There ought to be a class action suit against the railroad for their
involvement with these tech school training schools.They didn't even
check for back trouble or hernias on their medical examinations .
That's proof they weren't really looking for prospective employees
from the tech school. They had quotas they had to meet from the federal
government and that's all they cared about. I guess affirmative action
still exist.


Big B

Name: Noone
E-mail: Noone@csx.com
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 August 2007

""Our new ad campaign""

That's what i said


Dam Yankeys

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 August 2007

"Our new ad campaign"

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 August 2007

Just wondering if anyone has heard any facts to the rumor that they are
no longer going to use the Conductor Schools for training?  If so, when
is that taking effect????

Name: Noone
E-mail: Noone@csx.com
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 August 2007

Are new add campain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QilQidaMXKs

Name: Noone
E-mail: Noone@csx.com
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 August 2007

Are new add campain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QilQidaMXKs

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 August 2007

No Bonus,


I would like to know if there is anyone else out there who has not been
given their engineer signing bonus and if there are any trainees who
just got certified in the last two months who havent received it
either. I Have been certified for 4 weeks now and there are other guy
at work who have been certified for 6 weeks and havent seen theirs
either. The single system agreement is very clear that we are entitled
to this if we were in training when the agreement was signed and it was
to be paid upon certification. No gray areas at all.

Name: A pissed Employee
E-mail: NO 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 August 2007

BILL EDWARDS IS A FUCKING DUCHE BAG ASSHOLE.

Name: Dontwannagotoengineservice
E-mail: Nona
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 August 2007

Ok, So here I am, 11 years in, and managed to avoid engine service by
moving around. Now Im trapped and have to go to engine service. Im not
in any way shap or form qualified on the road, Im a yard man, always
have been.

So the other day I called the Asst Supr in our terminal and told him I
have to go to engine service in the next 4 months and I need to go out
on the road and qualify so I know where I am at whne I have to go back
out as an engineer.
 His reply :

"Oh, dont worry about it, you can get qualified on the road when you
become an engineer, we need you more in the yard right now."

Safety first my ass.

Name: THE DUDE
E-mail: GOWER0506@YAHOO.COM
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 August 2007

SOME OF YOU GUYS WHO HAVE BEEN SCREWED OVER BY AMDG JUST DONT GET IT.

amdg was run in some form or fashion by csx...your tuition money in
some form or fashion FOUND its way to csx bill fold...

Name: The retarted Car knocker
E-mail: retard@csx.com
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 August 2007

A wolf in sheep's clothing. A PR all candy coated to make CSX look like
heroes.

We all know this is how CSX will escape from being sued if a say a
dirty bomb went off in one of their yards.
"Not our fault its the local and state police fault."
I wonder what the local and state police are getting in return?
Did they get a cash infusion from Warren Buffet?
Is Warren Buffet sinking money into CSX since they removed almost all
liabilities? Its all going to be positive income from here.

I hear next that CSX will be offing a "Adopt a Rail Road crossing
program." If there's a bad wreck at a crossing and you adopted it,
its automatically your fault. CSX will sell a special insurance to
cover the cost of the tragedy. It's a total write off for CSX on a
property they don't own, CSX escapes liability and they make money
selling you the insurance. Fing genius, Those white shirts are with
every penny!


JACKSONVILLE, Fla., (August 1, 2007) - CSX Transportation (CSXT) today
announced it has entered into a rail security partnership with the
state
of Kentucky that represents a model CSXT hopes to use with other
states
on its system.

The partnership formalizes and enhances CSXT's ongoing commitment to
Kentucky to share information, resources, and strategies in order to
better protect the communities in which CSXT operates. In July, CSXT
formally announced a similar partnership with the states of New Jersey
and New York.

"We're pleased to be the first railroad and the first private
industry
to formalize a security partnership with the Kentucky Intelligence
Fusion Center in order to jointly safeguard both the communities we
serve, and our ability to move the goods so critical to the economy,"
said Skip Elliott, CSXT Vice President of Public Safety and the
Environment.

The partnership provides Kentucky security officials with access to
CSXT's Network Operations Workstation (NOW) System. This secure
online
system, developed and used by CSXT, allows Kentucky security and law
enforcement officials to independently track the location of CSXT
trains
and the contents of rail cars being hauled by CSXT in each state in a
nearly real-time environment.  

"This new partnership is a model for how information sharing should
occur between industry and government," said Kentucky Governor Ernie
Fletcher. "Every major homeland security report issued since 9/11 has
emphasized the need for information sharing to occur at all levels of
government and with the private sector. This initiative addresses the
rail industry."

In addition to providing access to the NOW System, CSXT works with law
enforcement officials in Kentucky on joint rail security training and
preparedness exercises, and provides round-the-clock access to CSXT
rail
security professionals. 

"Formalizing a public/private partnership with CSXT is a monumental
step
forward in securing our Commonwealth," said Governor Fletcher. "I
want
to compliment CSXT for stepping up and serving as the model for a
collaborative public-private security initiative. We are confident it
is
one that other private sector companies will emulate."

Today's partnership announcement was made at the Capitol Rotunda.
Present at the event were officials from Kentucky and executives from
CSXT. 

CSX Transportation Inc. is a principal operating company of CSX
Corporation.

CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is one of the leading
transportation companies, providing rail, intermodal and rail-to-truck
transload services. The Company's transportation network spans 21,000
miles with service to 23 eastern states and the District of Columbia,
and connects to more than 70 ocean, river and lake ports. More
information about CSX Corporation and its subsidiaries is available at
the Company's website, www.csx.com.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 August 2007

Hey Goober:

You bet it's a positive...positively the tip of the ice berg!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 August 2007

No stealing on the local level. Stealing will only be allowed by the
international. Message sent to all when they caught this guy. HARHARHAR

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 August 2007

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 July 2007

Maybe there is justice after all!

   
UTU local treasurer sentenced in embezzlement 

 
NOMO, Do You see this as a positive?
Guess what??? this is just one of MANY. They are stealing as we sit on
our asses.

Real stupid to pay union dues, month after month, for Nothing.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 August 2007

Notice To All Prospective CSX Conductors:



Stay away from Chicago/Barr Yard!!!!



Trainees dont have a chance.


They fire you for not having your hat on straight


They fired a guy just 3 days before he marked up because he need off
for a funeral. This was after he was told he could be off!!! Racisim
runs rampant here. I dont know what its like elswhere on the system but
I have heard everywhere else is better than Barr.


CSX really does suck.

Name: Special Forces
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 July 2007

JohnJohn,

    You hit the nail on the head with that one, you explained the
company as a whole.  I couldn't have said it better myself.  The same
goes for the FRA, they can tell me they are concerned about my safety
until they are blue in the face.  But I will never believe them, until
the day they make it mandatory that the company gives us more rest
between trips.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 July 2007

Maybe there is justice after all!

   
UTU local treasurer sentenced in embezzlement 

BALTIMORE -- A federal judge ruled Friday (July 27) in Baltimore that a
former UTU local treasurer will spend six months in prison and six
months on home confinement after pleading guilty to embezzling $45,000
from the organization, according to this report published by the
Baltimore Sun. 
From 1999 through 2004, Walter Fisher served as the secretary-treasurer
of the United Transportation Union Local 1949. 

The union local had about 250 members during that time who were
yardmasters with CSX, Norfolk Southern, Amtrak, and Conrail in New
Jersey, Maryland, Pennsylvania and Virginia. 

An audit by the International union of the Local 1949 books for 2003
revealed that Fisher embezzled about $15,000 in 2003, prosecutors wrote
in court papers. 

Fisher, who pleaded guilty on May 3, must pay approximately $45,000 in
restitution to the union, Chief Judge Benson E. Legg on the U.S.
District Court ordered July 27. 

(The preceding report was published by the Baltimore Sun on Saturday,
July 28, 2007.)
 
July 30, 2007

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 July 2007

For a glimpse at the life of a former CSX employee who has been
valiantly fighting CSX for 16 years, check out the website
www.whenpigsflythemovie.com.  The documentary, which premiered in Palm
Springs, and was shown in Jacksonville on 5/18 and 5/20/07, tells the
story of a young woman who was injured as a truck driver, while working
for CSX, in 1991, and as a result is a C5/6 quadriplegic.  She now lives
in Bunnell, Florida, and operates a no-kill, not-for-profit pig
sanctuary called Pig Tales.  Lory's life has been a constant struggle.
 Dealing with a spinal cord injury is difficult in itself, but dealing
with the denials of the greatest transportation company in the world
has turned her life, and the life of her family, into a war zone,
fighting one battle after another.  The railroad company excels at
railroading!

Name: J.W.F
E-mail: fitzgerald
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 July 2007

to boxcar Bob Dewitt.you should have been in fitzgerald ga lodge 1790
from 1999 to 2004 when our good local chairman W.E.vanhorn was stealing
claims from everyone that was working the extra board here we tried
everything except hang him as of today nothing has or will be done to
him the union all  the way up to the international president thommpson
knows about this since nov of 2004. csx knows about this but cannot do
anything to Mr. Vanhorn unless our good U.t.U WILL TRY HIM FOR THESE
CLAIMS . IN CASE YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HE ONLY MADE$193,000.00 DOLLARS
IN 2004 PLUS OUR OUR LOCAL PAID HIM OFER $15,000.00 TO STEAL THIS
CLAIMS.THIS IS WHAT IS REPRESENTING US AS U.T.U MEMBERS.BY THE WAY HE
WAS THROWN OUT IN NOV 2004 AND OUR GENERAL CHAIRMAN HANCOCK SAID THAT
WAS ENOUGH HE LOST HIS JOB NOW HE CAN STEAL NO MORE FROM THE MEN HE WAS
SUPPOSED BE WORKING FOR.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 July 2007

Blue collar flu, bad humor,the real problem we have is the lack of
consolidation, and the company knows this, we have a triangle- on one
side we have a corrupt union, on another side we have a bunch of
selfish and greedy workers, and on the other side we have csx ,
laughing all the way to the bank, and the rest of us in the middle.
This ssa shows the corruption of the unions and the company, blet is
now a closed shop, to continue employment(engineers), you have to
belong to the blet, totally against the national railway labor act. We
need a class action suit filed against both unions for failure to
negotiate for our well being.

Name: Elmo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 July 2007

You need to call the CSX ethics hotline my friend.  tell them that he is
charging you guys for a job that he is already being paid for quite
well.

If they don't do anything then call the IRS they will grab him for the
unreported income.  

Then call the department of labor and tell them.  He will be so busy
answering his phone from investigators he won't have time to steal
anymore from you brothers.

Whats his name anyway.  I want to watch outfor him around me.

Name: BoxcarBob@Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 July 2007

Well I guess that this situation has happened before but I don't know
where.  It seems that the Safety Coordinator in my area is playing
games with his local.  

Goes to Safety Coordinator meetings and charges the local for the
expenses.  I wonder how that can be right.  I belong to this local for
along time and never saw this kind of thing going on.  The guy gets a
big salary from CSX with all his expenses paid for every thing and he
hits the local up for more.  Its gotta be against the law.  We will
have to check.  Make sure the Safety Coordinator in your area isn't
doing the same thing as up here in the northeast.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 July 2007

Who told you CSX holds your money? That's BS. I've been in the BLET
401k since 1994 my money and the company contribution is in my account
every payday. When the former BLE got us a 401k CSX didn't match
anything. I just learned of the automatic enrollment about 4 months ago
some of the newer engineers were complaining which after explaining that
even 2% with 30+ years left to work it would add up to hefty sum upon
retirement it made sense to them. Just opt out it's that simple your
money is in a secure retirement account ML or the BLET haven't
invested it in any mutual funds if CSX matched anything it went for
their stock. 

If you want to check it out go to www.BLE.org on the main page on the
left side is a link to the ML 401k website.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 July 2007

30+

The point I was trying to make was that it didnt take long for someone
to start snatching money out of my pay when I wasnt even an engineer
yet. What if I had failed all test and got fired. Now someone has my
money in a 40lk that  should have never been started in the first
place. second I can still contribute to my 401k with the utu even if I
am in engine service as long as I am a utue member. I havent decided
yet . I was told that csx does not actually put the money into your
40lk until the end of the year. So it doesnt start drawing interest
until the next year. Sure its free money at the end of the year but it
sounds like a promissory note. Am I wrong on this?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 July 2007

Jezzis, calm down it's just a 401k plan. You can opt out if you want it
should have been noticed on your pay stub if as you stayed they started
deducting it in November. They took out what 2% of you wages CSX
matches 25 cents on the dollar. If CSX gave Merrill Lynch the list then
the union is not at fault. But, it is an agreement between the BLET and
CSX on automatically enrollment for engine service. As an Engineer you
now fall under the BLET agreements the UTU doesn't mean anything
unless your cut back. I wish we had a 401k back when I hired out
instead of not getting one till 1994 when I was 40 yrs old.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 July 2007

WARNING!!!!

Ok future engineers. Seems the BLE started taking out money for their
40lk program before I even finished my training and took my test. I
called Merrill Lynch and asked them who gave them the authorization to
take my money. They told me we were sent letters last November
explaining the opt out policy and how you have 30 days to opt out if
you didnt want to participate. When I explained to the rep that I was a
conductor in November and a member of the UTU and had no idea when I
would even go to engineer school and the opt out letter didnt even
pertain to me, she told me that the carrier sent them a list of who was
eligible at the beginning of the year. Again I told her I didnt go to
engineer school until January 20th and as of this day I was not an
engineer and it wasnt guarenteed that I would be one. There was no
guarentee that I would even pass. Then I asked her if they planned on
giving my money back because I wasnt an engineer with a license and I
already had a 401k with the utu and I couldnt be forced to have two. I
later got a call from another rep telling me he would send me a
rollover form. CSX sent my name to them before I even passed the
program.
Now for the best part. I put in claims for the $20.00 meal allowance
after the agreement was signed and payroll denied it claiming I was
still under the utu agreement. Go figure this. They turn me in as an
eligible participant of the ble agreement but wont pay my meals because
Im still supposed to be under the utu agreement. If anyone from csx
payroll reads this I would love an answer from you! Or how about one of
the many LC's who reads this. I smell fish!

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 July 2007

Quote-

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 22 July 2007

I think you all are just a bunch of cold hearted bastards that
couldn't
keep your families together...If you can't stay married because of
your
job then apparently you should have rethought your career choice and
applied for a different job!   It can't possibly be as bad as you guy
let on, I'm sure each division has it' problems but it can't
possibly be everywhere


You know its bad when the company(sue oxley) defends us for our
lifestyles, she will actually stand up for a man when hes down(martial
problems)  because this lifestyle will destroy and dose destroy
families. This old saying will hold true 90% of the time, if your not
doing your homework, someone will.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 July 2007

Pop's, Your not alone. From what I've been told our GC's have allowed
CSX to deny all claims under the SSA for up to 2 years before any labor
relation or arbitration hearing can resolve it. Talk about BS. What
were they thinking? It difficult to pathom their rational on screwing
their own people especially the boneheads that voted for this piece of
crap after the snow job they did on how great this agreement would be.
The ink isn't even dry on the SSA.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 July 2007

Beware wanna-be railroaders, this job is not what you might think it is,
the works is easy(bonehead), but csx has to be one of the industries
worst for the treatment of their blue collar workers. Ive only had 2
other jobs in my life, both of which are fortune 500 companies, and
their labor relations was shitty, but at least we had people we could
discuss working conditions with. csx however has a recording telling us
to contact our union lc, what a joke, I could go on but to some this up,
I worked the 4th of july for no extra monies(straight time), as an extra
board employee, Im not entitled to holiday pay or even a 20 min lunch,
but Ill give you one better, business got slow last feb and I didnt
hold job, so I just floated alot because they wouldnt furlough anyone,
so miss ballintine decided to have a board on me for attendance, told
them I didnt hold job, but that didnt matter, then nov last year, fell
off my steps and sprained my ankle very bad, went to doctor and got
excuse for time off(5 days), and again board scheduled, gave doctor
excuses to miss ballentine before board, and evidence in board, and
again was found guilty as charged, 2 days overhead, so you go figure,
is this the job for you?

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 July 2007

well its been 3 months since the ssa has gone into effect. i have
numerous time claims that according to the agreement book i received
should be paid, but csx just denies everyone of them , i have turned
them in to the local chairman and still no claims paid, so i must ask
don moates ansd vp sorrow this question "what were you smoking when
you came to an agreement that the ssa was a great contract?"
get my f***ing money you lazy good for nothing worthless union
officials.    but i shouldnt worry account of the scope rule!  lol
raise my dues  and dont do anything to earn it..... other than get me a
2%raise for 6 years..........B.S. ble-sucks

Name: CTA
E-mail: csxsucks@aol.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 July 2007

Here are a few petitions 1 about CSX getting big $$ for something they
should pay for themselves and 1 regarding railworkers fatigue. 
I'm too fatigued to explain so go check them out!

http://www.petitiononline.com/csxpork/petition.html

http://www.petitiononline.com/railwork/petition.html

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 July 2007

Let me tell you a story. My son interviewd with CSX for the condutor
training program back in April. He had a physical and strength
indurance test. CSx called and said you are hired. He is upose to go to
school in September. Wow if thye needed people that bad You think they
would have classes sooner. Now he got a E-mail saying they don't need
him due to chance of furolough . They said they won't be hirinng for
the rest of year 2006. This 2007 Does CSX know what year this is? He
has a good job now, But i wouldn't want to quit to go to the unkown
world of CSX.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 July 2007

A book by Grisholm called "The King of Torts" explains how these
asbestos class action suits work.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 July 2007

The asbestos well ran dry years ago. The goverment ended up helping
corporations with bankruptcy protection. If any money is to had it's
pennies on the dollar and the lawyers get their 40% which adds up to
benefitting only the lawyers. I had a lawsuit over asbestos from the
early '90s settled some claims, but the bulk of the claims were schidt
canned because of bankruptcy protection. There were at least 6 that I
was awarded a claim to this day I've recieved nothing. When the
asbestos lawsuits came in to play the railroads within a few months
bulldozed every structure that was ladened with it. Screw attorneys who
advertise on TV for various class action lawsuits their the scum of the
earth.

Name: dragline
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 July 2007

APE my ass-This is a bloodsucking, honeydripper lawyer. Anyone who
thinks they are going to get a large payout from asbestos is nuts
ie:Pines. Like all class action lawsuits only the lawyers walk away
with their pockets full. Forget about sleeping and watch tv in your
motel room, if it works, and you will see them all day and night
trolling for idiots. Play the odds. Go spit in your TM or RFE face and
file a claim. Better chance of collecting.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 July 2007

I hate lawyers.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 July 2007

Have you or a loved one been exposed to asbestos, causing Mesothelioma
or Lung Cancer?

If you or a loved one has been diagnosed with Mesothelioma (Pleural,
Lung, Chest), or Asbestos Cancer you 
may be entitled to collect Millions of Dollars from negligent companies
who have set 
aside billions to pay victims.



It is particularly important to check with a doctor if any of the
following symptoms develop:

> Shortness of breath, wheezing, or hoarseness. 
> A persistent cough that gets worse over time. 
> Blood in the sputum (fluid) coughed up. 
> Pain or tightening in the chest. 
> Difficulty swallowing. 
> Swelling of the neck or face. 
> Loss of appetite. 
> Weight loss. 
> Fatigue or anemia. 
> Fever, night sweat 

Don't hesitate to seek justice for the damages you or your loved ones
have suffered!

Name: 
E-mail: CSXSUCKS@aol.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 July 2007

I need to know where to find the flowback forms, anyone know where they
are located now?
Please e-mail me CSXSUCKS@aol.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 July 2007

what have you guys heard about the remotes on freight pulls just one man
operating

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 July 2007

Hey Con 1-10:

As soon as the membership APPROVES the merger with the Sheet Metal
Workers, then you will see just what the UTU (SMART) has in store for
you!!!

Have the KY ready...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 July 2007

WHERES THE UTU CONTRACT?, ANYBODY, ANYBODY. MY LOCAL CHAIRMAN IN JANUARY
AT A MEETING SAID IT WOULD BE IN SIGNED IN JULY, STILL WAITING,ANY
MINUTE NOW.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 July 2007

to H.T.L.and to the person asking about borrowing money from your 401  a
few times getting this money out makes a lot of sense for if you owe a
credit card a lot of money say $10,000.00 and you are having to pay a
large interest rate say 15% a year at least then you get this out of
your 401 you not only pay yourself back interest on thismoney but you
also is not paying the 15% on this debt so you are making about 23% on
your money thats 8% to yourself plus the 15% you are saving. in the
last year or so the stock market has been great for your 401 but if by
chance it goes down you will be way ahead by borrowing your oown
money.you know for sure that you may not be making money but you sure
are saving a lot on this interest you are now paying on your credit
card or other high rate bills that has a high rate interest on them. if
you do this donot go back and get in debt again on your credit card.

Name: JohnJohn
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 July 2007

Wish I had your JoB!!!!,
         I really hope you get hired by CSX one of these days that way
you can see first hand that your views of the railroad are wrong. I
used to be like you, didn't care if I had to work on weekends. I
didn't care if I had to work crappy hours because I was used to it
already. I have some family members that work for csx and they told me
all about the conditions and told me I should give it a try. So I went
to the school, learned their many many safety rules, passed the school
and got hired. I came out feeling good, the rules made sense (nobody
wants to get killed out here), I felt I could do a good job. It's now
been 5 years and my views of this company have turned completely
around. All the safety rules that they jam down your throat are not to
protect you, they're there to cover their own a$$. The company does
not care about you. You're a number they call when a train needs
moved. If they really cared about safety we wouldn't be forced to go
to work when we've had no sleep. As I type this, I just came off my
rest day, I'm 4th out. I want to go to work now while I'm awake and
fresh. But I won't get out until tonight sometime when I've already
been awake all day and I'm ready to go back to bed. If I try telling
the caller I'm not rested they'll actually laugh at me and tell me
exactly how long I've been off and that I AM rested and have to take
the call. They don't understand the fact that I'm now tired and ready
to go to bed. So I take the call or get in trouble for refusing duty. So
you're basically forced to take the call and now your expected to go
and work with a sharp mind and perform safely. But it's just not
possible. So right there, all the safety rules go out the window.
You're just trying to stay awake and perform the basics. You don't
know how many times I've looked over to find my engineer dozing off.
This is how head on collisions happen. It's not because the crews are
stupid and they don't know red from green. It's because the company
makes us work tired. Right now there is a crew that is struggling to
stay awake. They might make it to their destination today but maybe not
the next time. And when a collision does happen again the company won't
change anything and time will pass without incident then it'll happen
again. The crews will be at fault for falling asleep. And this is going
to keep happening because the company keeps changing policies giving us
less and less time off just because they want to pay less and less
employees. That way they can have another year of record earnings. Most
of which is stolen from our paychecks anyway, stolen from our rightful
claims that they just flatout deny. I could go on and on but hopefully
you'll figure it out that working for the railroad is not as glorious
as you railbuffs think it is. There's alot more than just sitting back
and waiving at the railfans taking pictures. You have to have your face
shoved in the mud day after day no matter how good of an employee you
are. No matter how many times you've tried to help the company, they
don't pay attention to that, they don't keep a record of that stuff.
So it doesn't take to long before you see what the company is really
like and all the glamor of being a railroader is gone. Just thinking of
the company and their bogus policies will start to make you sick.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 July 2007

Pop's, You got that right. Borrowing off the 401K stagnates your money,
sure you pay yourself back some interest, but keeping it in the 401K is
better in the long run. I work with one man who doesn't have JI and it
shows by his attitude he's nervous on every move wondering if their
watching him, so nervous it reflects his work and he's a good
conductor.

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 July 2007

your 401 can loan you money without a penalty but it must be paid back
in a 5 year period, and you pay yourself intrest for your loan,
but the money you borrow wont be working for you,

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 July 2007

From GOOFY:
Just my comment on the below post.
_____________________________________________________________________

Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 July 2007

1- take the money you pay in job insurance, and invest it in your
401k,
then barrow agains your 401k if you get ran off, when you get your job
back pay yourself back what you barrowed.
_____________________________________________________________________

If you take from Your 401K that is untaxed money, and you will pay tax
at your rate plus a penalty, if you are under age 59.5.
When you repay that loan you will pay with taxed dollars, that you will
one day take out and pay tax on again.
I suggest that you do not do the repay myself thing from a 401k, just
borrow the money if ya need it. Much cheaper. 

Or set a savings account for job insurance and put the union dues, and
job insurance premiums in there. Mucho Better Friends

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 July 2007

NoMo

Insubordiation and conduct unbecoming has crept back in to the scheme
of things. It just requires a change in attitude. Just do as they say
no complaining no nothing most likely it'll cost them in overtime or
penalty claims. I know just like the name of this thread 'Denied
Claims' penalty claims are denied CSX banks on 85% of them not being
forwarded to the LC. It's all a big game.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 July 2007

Hey Loco 20-30:

That explains all the "insubordinant" and "conduct unbecoming"
charges over the last 2 years.

The bigger issue is why CSX feels it necessary to "punish" their
employees? Seems kinda childish to me! I am not aware of anybody
intentionally running a board or through a switch or derailing a car
etc.

Attendance issues and the like, I can see.

Employee morale has a great deal to do the success or lack thereof, of
any company. The morale of the CSX employees is at the bottom of the
tank which will eventually bite CSX in the ass.

They might just discipline themselves out of business!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 July 2007

CSX hates job insurance. They feel how can you punish someone who'll
collect the same money or more while out on suspension. We had one GM
on our division who placed a false sense of security in the employees
when for about a year even major infractions were dealt with time out
sessions. There were those that dropped their insurance feeling safe,
the next year he reversed policy and time in the street became the
norm. I don't preach to anyone to buy it or not that's their choice,
but I see a lot of newbies quit because they couldn't afford
monetarily to get time in the street and there's a lot being doled
out. 

It would take 8-10 years of putting your JI premiums in the 401k to
equal what 30 days of JI pays. In a perfect world we hope never to get
time, but CSX is not anywhere near being that perfect.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 July 2007

1- take the money you pay in job insurance, and invest it in your 401k,
then barrow agains your 401k if you get ran off, when you get your job
back pay yourself back what you barrowed.

2-guarantee is a joke they are now finding ways to recoupe what
"they" feel they overpaid without a viable reason.

3-12hrs of doing nothing pays better than sitting home doing nothing.
They do understand overtime, make them pay it, and just simply work
"safer". 

just some opinions.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 July 2007

Goob, Job insurance does give me that warm cozy fuzzy feeling knowing I
have it. I can state that it does pay and it pays very well with the
right policy. I hope I never have to use it again, but when I did use
it I had one great summer with a paycheck deposited every week that was
more than when I'm working.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 July 2007

Craig:
I think they fooled ya a couple of times.
Welcome aboard.
you are smarter than the average, just sit tight and get the $140.00
until the real deal comes along.

If ya keep taking those $130.00 calls when ya can sit and draw $140.00
they will think that you are stupid, and try to sell you Job
Insurance!

GOOFY

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 July 2007

To:
Loco 20-30 
30 June 2007

My good friend, I am not new to job insurance. When you refer to the
hard times in the 80's my hackles come up somewhat.
Pay for it if you like it and want it. It has been there for years.
It covers absolutely nothing, just read the policy and you can plainly
see. You will pay for life for absolutely nothing, but a warm fuzzy
feeling, that will go away as soon as a claim is made.

It is so bad that the CSX should sell it in-house to you, and I am not
sure that they are not already doing that.

Real simple-- most RR's buy it, sell it, and promote it, So it must be
GOOD. Just put $5.00 per mo in a savings account and beat the hell out
of any claim that you will ever draw.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 July 2007

hey wish,

 i have been on the RR 3 years i cant help it you are a foamer thats
wants a job with the RR. The reason you dont get hired is because you
are too fuckin stupid to pass any of the tests. this company is out for
themselves not the employees they could care less about us. there plan
is to not pay valid claimes i have 2 that are almost 3 yrs old  and
havent seen a dime. also they want everyone close to being fired it
makes them think you will work better knowing your job is on the line.

it's pretty bad when they say a monkey could do our jobs. well fuck
them and you looser.

csx is the lowest paid class 1 out there why cant they be like the CN
or CP they know how to treat there employees a little better.

you are probaly one of the guys that call in crossing failures just so
a train has to stop and flag a crossing just so you can get some
pictures.....   keep your mcdonalds job you will be much better off we
dont need snitches like you out here helping the company.....

would you like that supersized??????

Name: craig
E-mail: car21085@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 June 2007

this really dosent have to do with am actual claim but it has to do with
my pay. i usually hold the extra board at the yard where i work which is
fine by me.... usually. the guarantee for the extraboard per day is
141.96 which is not bad pay, this is if i do NOT go to work on that
day, the thing that really gets to me is that there many trains where
if i actually GO to work it only pays 130.00!
why is this?? you may ask? itis bacause the contract when i hired in
stated that all employes hired in after a said date would only get 85%
of the previous guarantee! that is for life! is it just me or isn't it
kind of pointless to go to work to lose money?? why would i want to go
to work ( especially on this train because it is a pain in the butt,
its not a "get on and go" train) when its gonna pay me more money to
sit on my butt at home? its beyond me!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 June 2007

this company is a joke,they constantly deny your claims while the c.e.o.
gets paid millions of dollars which is a joke because the way the
company is runned is a whole other joke altogether

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 June 2007

Mr. Pines,
As a railroad auditor for a state DOT, I found your mass-emailing to
many DOT's inappropriate and uncalled for.  In my conversations with
auditors from various states, no one took your email seriously.  I'd
like to make the following points:

1.  Learn the English language.  In having read both your anti-CSX
manifesto to the DOT's and various blogs I found online, your
arguments are poorly written, riddled with misspelled words,
uninformed, biased, and based largely on emotion.

2.  Insulting auditors (referring to them as less intelligent than
12-year olds) is NOT the way to get your point across.  If someone told
me that I was stupid in order to get their point across, it wouldn't
work, guaranteed.

3.  In having read your online blogs, it's obvious that you are
extremely biased in your opinions; and, let's face it, your viewpoint
is obviously skewed by a personal death related to CSX.  If you want to
accomplish something, you have to do so with facts, not insults and
unfounded allegations.

4.  I found at least one website dedicated to people who enjoy trains
and the railroad system.  Apparently, you have been banned from their
blogs (or at least there have been attempts to do so, which you have
circumvented in a dishonest way).  This very much compromises your
credibility.  It makes you sound more like a crackpot than an informed
advocate for your cause.  If you have a (valid) point, be dignified
about it.

Mr. Pines, I don't know exactly what it is that happened to a family
member, nor am I aware of any other relationships you have with CSX or
any other railroad, but I strongly recommend you take a different
approach to your cause.  Perhaps some of your allegations have merit; I
don't know.  I'm certainly not a safety inspector, and my expertise
deal with railroad project audits, and the applicable federal
regulations that apply to them.  However, I can say that your approach
is misguided and I implore you to take a more civilized approach. 
Thank you.

P.S.  Many of your comments in the e-mail sent to the DOTs are
completely invalid.  If you had knowledge of how DOTs handle sign and
signal (crossing) projects, you wouldn't have had much to say.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 June 2007

Goob, Job insurance does pay there are stipulations that it doesn't
like some missed calls which if you can show it was partially the
carriers fault it will be covered. It doesn't pay for a rule G
violation which is drugs & alcohol, and mabey insubordination but like
missed calls the facts are taken in to account. It pays for everthing
else even if it was ruled that it was your fault it's known as just
making a mistake. So, don't talk about things you have no knowledge of
that makes you look ignorant just as ignorant as the person doing the
advertising. 

Job insurance at least for myself didn't become a concern till mid to
late '80s when CSX started taking over completely. Before that working
for the C&O (Chessie System) we had good supervisors that were actually
in control and weren't required to answer to higher ups unless it was
drastic measures like someones dismissal. Back then a TM/RFE would call
you in to his office shut the door bore you a new arsehole then tell you
get the f@*k out of his office and that was the end of it. Times have
changed and job insurance is a necessity those that don't have it are
just foolish.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 June 2007

Seek another source, or something that results in a benefit to YOU.

GOOFY

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 June 2007

Why Would someone come to this site to sell Job Insurance?

To make a few bucks I would think.
I wonder if they pay off? Most do not!
I wonder if they cover anything different than the run of the mill
co's
I wonder how many workers are covered by this type of insurance?
I wonder how much they pay, and if they have ever collected anything.

Job insurance is a funny thing, the only folks that buy in seem to be
RR folks, wonder why that is.

Job insurance is very close to Union dues, for real quality of life
issues.
GOOFY

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 June 2007

Hey HTL:

Mikey couldn't handle our job...he would go home crying like a baby
because he got a little blister on his manicured finger or a heat rash
on the old cod sack!

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 June 2007

dear wish,
we know that you are really mikey ward

Name: Brakey
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 June 2007

Hey guys, this is a quick question about the Health and Welfare plan.  I
worked for CSX for 5 years (hired in 2000), then transferred to another
Class 1.  In doing so, my health insurance never had a gap in coverage,
I think because I had been in the plan since 2000.  Now I am looking at
transferring to yet another Class 1, does anyone know if there will be
a gap in coverage (that 4 month health/1 year dental and vision thing)
in moving to the new RR, or should I be ok since I have contributed to
it since 2000 (or whenever they started making us pay)?

Thanks for anyone who can shed light on this!

Brakey

Name: Wish I had your Job
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 June 2007

Well to the 30+ verterans on the railroad, I was'nt attacking you,
sorry for any offense, but its the new hires I was talking about. I
know the veteran railroad employees were around before there was a CSX.
But what I was referring to was I know of some new hires who do complain
all the time, because they find out they're on call 24/7, and it cuts
into their social life. They were told that at the hiring session. To
quote a human resource officer at on of the hiring session, "If your
someone who likes his weekends, this is NOT the job for you". At which
point he said anyone who feels its not the job for them, they are free
to leave the session. Nobody left, but when some guys get hired, they
start complaining from day 1. Again I was'nt attaking the 20 or 30
year veterans, but its just new hires that get the job I want, then
they complain, even quit. I did talk to a veteran engineer, who did say
he's seen new hires quit within a couple weeks. And all that money the
railroad spends training them.

Name: Wish I had your JoB!!!!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 June 2007

I can't believe you morons!!!!!!!!!!! Here is me, somebody who wants to
work for the railroad but get turned down every hiring session, and they
hire some pathetic loser asshole like yourself!!!! You guys bitch about
your job, when they told you how it was gonna be at your hiring
session. Oh I forgot you were asleep. I wanted to be conductor/engineer
my whole life but I compete with some jerkoff who just wants a job. You
dummys don't know anything about trains or railroading, but you get
hired, then start working, and soon quit soon after, meanwhile I who
already know what the railroad is like, and doesnt mind its conditions,
can't get on. "WAAA WAAA WAAA!!, I cant party this weekend cause I
might get a call." Well if you don't like that, why the hell did you
take the job? I have no sympathy for the crybabies who think that they
are being tortured on the job.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 June 2007

I think I would send her a advertizing bill webmaster. HARHARHAR

Name: Kelly Moore
E-mail: kellybmoore74@yahoo.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 June 2007

If you are concerned about your current income protection insurance not
paying claims there are other options.

A national insurance company that everyone has heard of is coming out
with an income protection policy for every one in the transportation
industry.

The policy will be avaiable to every one across the country on July
15,2007. 

Here are some basic facts about the policy:

It will pay you $200.00 a day for 365 days.

It is guarenteed issued, reguardless of you work history.

It also has a disability rider that covers you while are deadheading.

There are also extra disability riders available.


If you have any questions please call or email I will be happy to
discuss anything with you.

Kelly Moore
kellybmoore74@yahoo.com
318-469-5771

Kelly Wixon
kellykaye78@yahoo.com
318-469-9694

Name: CSX Engineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 June 2007

According to the new SSA,page 2-- Article 4, Paragraph B states that the
EC pay will be paid on separate service deadheads. Has anyone been paid
this on your deadheads yet?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 June 2007

Hey Loco 1-10:

When I first hired out, CSX forced us to New Orleans. New Orleans is
filthy crime infested city and the last place on Earth I wanted to be.

I will however say this about the employees at Gentilly...they made my
stay there bearable and are some of the nicest people I had the
opportunity to meet while I was with CSX!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 June 2007

As far as Nashville goes, from what I understand the only place on the
system worse is New Orleans. Talk to your LC where you hired out. If
the CSX is wrong, write a mass letter and send it to everyone in
management system wide as well as the local and general chairmen of
both unions. 

If they don't want to train you and help you learn the road, let them
know that it might be you coming down the wrong track in the middle of
a foggy night because you don't know where you are.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 June 2007

We had some Engineers go to Nashville on a temporary transfer back in
1999. They said they were the rudest people they've ever met, they
wouldn't help them learn the road and the RFE/management was scared of
them so they were no help. Sounds like the rest of us should use them as
a good example of the what the rest of us belonging to a union should be
a unified front. Instead of this attitude of "What's in it for me?".
That is our biggest pitfall "GREED".

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 June 2007

Hey Con <1:

Talk to the LC in Nashville and explain the situation. If he won't or
can't help, he may be trying to help his men out with the OT and
really doesn't want you there, contact the LC of your local and tell
him. 

Sounds to me like the Nashville management is playing games. After
Katrina a lot of the guys were offered emergency transfers throughout
the system until they got the NO&M back on-line. Most everyone I talked
to had similar stories about the expense money.

If the notice offering the temporary transfers said they would pay a
$750 a month lodging allowance in lieu of a company provided motel
room, then you will get it. It's just too bad that they make you fight
for something you are entitled to!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 June 2007

The UTU sold the men out years ago, Byron Boyd is a prime example of
what they are all about.  The UTU continues to bash the railroads on
there website, brag about gaining strength by joining the sheet metal
workers union, and yet they still have union officers holding company
positions such as mentor, trainer, and safety coordinator; go figure. 
These so called union leaders spend hours a day drinking coffee,
lunching, and even drinking beer with the terminal superintendents. 
They aren't working for you, they are selling you up the river.  They
don't care about you, they only care about there $250+ a days pay. 
Thats not exactly what I want representing me.  Open your eyes people,
its right in front of you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 June 2007

As far as the UTU goes they are as cheap as the railroad is. Just like
someone wrote here their famous words are the company can do that they
dont give a shit about us they 85% of them are paid off by the company.
I have not been out here long but I can tell you I cant see that the
union does anything but help the company screw us. Everything in these
new contracts are company. We are just throwing our moiney away on the
union.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 June 2007

I got forced to nashville tn to work and sighned an agreement with csx
to be paid 750.00 dollars a month for six months they paid me pone time
and now they are denying it saying they dont have to pay it. What should
I do?

Name: Lightning Bolt 13
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 June 2007

To MR. Boggs or whoever the hell you are. People like you are what
makes
this railroad such a shithole. You think you know something about
RAILROAD and the most experience you have with it is your fucking toy
train. You lucked into the job cuz you know how to kiss ass like most
other brass. All you asskissers know how to do is not your "Job",
but
to keep an ever watchful eye out to try and get someone fired. You
wonder why you can't move trains efficently, well it's because you
find or trump up charges to get rid of people. You can't maintain
track, engines, employees, or anything else in that matter. All you
care about is pocketing the money that the railroad gives you to
"Keep
up the good work." Well, I wanna see YOU get out there on the roster,
get called EVERY fucking day, work like a dog for over 12hrs, get less
than your given sleep and go right the fuck back out. It rips families
apart you heartless asshole. And you say that "College" people get
all the perks, more like ASSKISSERS. Grunts get the work done, and if
it weren't for them....where would you be. Not everyone has money to
where they can buy themselves into whatever. So you know what, put
up...or SHUT UP

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 June 2007

The back pay was barely enough to put a down payment on a 50cc moped.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 June 2007

Paul what area you dispatching in?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 June 2007

Hey HTL:

I know it's hard to handle all this fortune and fame...just try to
keep from going to your head!

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 June 2007

well i got my back pay...i called the car dealer and canceled the bently
i had on order. i cant wait for the year end bonus check!!!
then maybe i can get the bently!
but with 100% rules compliance who needs a pay raise im making more by
following the rules than i ever have made on the rr. dont forget that
you cant shove into a track that is known to be able to hold the cars
you have without a man on the rear to protect the movement...how many
of you adhere to this rule?
certainly the rco operators dont ...they dont follow any rules  period
and the officials just look the other way! shame shame shame!
where is the fra when it comes to remotes...oh yeah in the pocket of
csx!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 June 2007

all you utu members donot have long to belong to this no good union  
for it will not be here all that much longer they cannot stay a union
much longer but you can bet all those in office will be rich from all
the jobs sold out.now when someone get promoted to engineer he is
foolish to continue paying about $1,000.00 a year union dues. they
think they did great when the remote went into service but they had not
agreed to take this job guess who would be running this remote plus
someone would surely have to be on the ground with the engineer.just
you wait untill you get a new contract which is two and onehalf years
past due.you will be lucky just to keep the agreement that you are now
working under. this union stinks.

Name: CTA
E-mail: CSXSUCKS@AOL.COM
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2007

I thankfully belong to the BofLE&T. Seeing how the UTU and CSX has
screwed me while they were in bed together, will they screw me again
and not let me get any bone us (if any) for the signing of a trainmen
agreement considering they can't keep me marked up as an engineer?

Name: CTA
E-mail: CSXSUCKS@AOL.COM
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2007

Another wonderful day. I expect the company to deny my claims and to
fire me. Those seem like the only things guaranteed in this profession
with CSX during my career. They have already wiped themselves with our
SSA day in and day out. They have figured out how to wipe me with it
just to give me a paper cut and not pay my fu**ing bone us. I will
PayPal $$ (after verification) to the person that can give me Tony
Ingrams cell phone number. Has anybody else been screwed by not getting
their bone us? It's bad enough after taxes it's only going to be about
$1500.

Name: STFU NoMo
E-mail: STFUNoMo@STFU.COM
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 June 2007

NoMo,
    Please shut the hell up. You are a totally ignorant idiot. You act
like you know everything. Somebody could post a story on here about
Rocket Science and you would have to write an essay on here about your
interpretation of Rocket Science. Nobody gives a damn about your
essays. You have to be a new hire. Only a new hire has that "I know
everything and can't nobody tell me shit" attitude. It's plain as
day that the railroad treats you like shit. That's the only thing
wrong with it. And it can be described in one word rather than one
thousand that you use. SHITTY

Name: CEE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 June 2007

Big E:
It really doesn't matter if the claim is ridiculous in your opinion.
That's not the point. If it's in the agreements, pay the
mother-fucker. Csx saves millions on people not filing or appealing
good claims and your mentality is the reason CSX denies so many of
them.

Name: CTA
E-mail: CSXSUCKS@aol.com
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 June 2007

BigE engineer 10-20.

Of course you get your claims paid. If they didn't pay your claims you
wouldn't be able to afford new knee pads every quarter! Obviously you
scraped with your teeth one too many times so the NS fired you!!!

Name: Paul
E-mail: walwus@comcast.net
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 June 2007

I don't understand, if CSX is such a bad company to work for why do
people stay? If it's for the money, then just deal with it and move on
like an adult. If you don't want to do that then quit and find a better
company to work for. CSXT has plenty of faults but they come from both
sides of the fence, Managers and Workers. What people tend to forget is
that both parties are human and subject to emotion. I know managers that
will deny claims and make the union take them to arbitrtion just because
of who the person is filing the claim. Make it right? No way, but makes
it reality. I'm sure there are Trainmasters that people will work for
and ones they won't. 

I look at it like this, treat people the way you want to be treated. I
used to get all upset when a things weren't going my way as a
dispatcher, but then I realized that if I just talk nice to the crews,
treat them as people doing a job just like me, then they treat me
better and our jobs become alot easier to manage on both sides. I've
been dispatching for 4 years now on some of the toughest desk to work
but there's no sense in complaing. I just come in and do my 8 hours,
sometimes 16 if working the chief's desk, and go home. I do my best to
get the crews, not the train, over the road. I try not to leave people
in the hotel for longer than needed so they can get home and see their
families and what not. Unfortunately, my thought process is in the
minority.

Name: bigE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 June 2007

I have been an engineer for ns and now ive been at csx for 11 years as a
locomotive engineer.They always pay the real claims,the ones that dont
get paid or get paid late are so ridiculous they dont deserve to get
paid but eventually do.If you ride a shove for a mile do you really
think you deserve a days pay?I almost forgot about taking off a eot for
a days pay ,give me a break.I can walk into work 10 or 15 minutes late
and no one says anything.A job where you punch in will fire you after
being late 3 times.Bottom line it is one of the best blue collar jobs
with great benefits.Why else would the people who whine about it so
much stay and why everyone else wants it.Post this .

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 June 2007

I would like to take the time to discuss BR Boggs. I haven't seen him
on here lately and would like to disclose his indentity. Bogg's real
name is actually DJ Anderson, better know as Jason Anderson. Mr
Anderson is actually not a part of Corporate CSX, rather a somewhat
new-hire trainman employed in Fitzgerald Georgia. After finding out
this information, I feel it is my responsibility to inform everyone of
you that your "fellow man
" was behind all those ill mannered comments. Nice to know who's
watching your back isn't it?

Name: NS Engineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 June 2007

I work for Norfolk Southern and wish I worked for CSX. Why not an
NS-sucks.com? They're much bigger assholes than CSX. They arrest
railfans at random on public property! Seriously, CSX does not suck.

Name: KLS bitch
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 June 2007

KLS what a bitch she denied my flagging pay flagged 3 times in 1 week i
put 90 miles in for milage the first one then was informed it was 120
miles so she denied all 3 and said milage was 100 miles she said if i
didnt like it take it up with my LC she was done with it what a
worthless bitch.......    and i am still owed runaround pay 2x from 3
yrs ago

Name: Be happy in your work
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 June 2007

It took me years to figure out how to piss off the ass hole bosses . if
you have the balls , i just ignore them as if they were nothing . i
just nod or shake my head for no . it pisses them off bad and what rule
am i braking? one trainmaster i havent spoke to in 5 years. i just walk
by him like he is nothing

Name: warren hutchison
E-mail: wrrnhutchison@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 June 2007

i   worked for csx more than 20 years when i got hurt and filed my clam
they screwed me around so much i decied to retire.i started to have
trouble breathing so i went to get checked out for asbestoes tested
postive got a lawyer filed my clame its been 4years every  one else has
setteled with me .but not good ol csx ive worked maintaince ben an
engineer conductor an got nothing but the run around thanks for the
memeroies one of my kids needs a job but i did not tell him to go there
to look be cause of what im going through  im mad igot this stuff
because of them nobody in csx management told me i was at risk or to be
checked out by chance i moved and was talking to a fellow i met he
worked for csx to told me i should get checked out that a lot of older
railroaders had it i need to thank my fellow brother it bothers me that
the company was never concered about my well being that it could turn to
cancer and now im on breathing meds for the res  t of my life thank you
very much                    warren hutchison  id 619696 walbridge ohio

Name: RANDY
E-mail: RANDY_CAINE@ABITIBICONSOLIDATE
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 June 2007

From a customers point of view;

I have been a technical manager for 15 years in the paper industry and
have tried to be as honest as possible with Damage Prevention as I can
be.

We receive the worst condition railcars, worn out, bowed walls, we
spend hundreds of dollars on dunnage to protect paper rolls, hold paper
mills accountable for loading, we try to communicate, get all details
the railroad requires and we still get the run around.The railroad
Industry has forgotten what CUSTOMER means, I have never seen a
industry have so many loop holds, reasons not to honor claims.

PRINTERS CAN NOT RUN WET, FLAT, OUT OF ROUND, DAMAGED ROLLS AND THIS
ALSO CAUSES HIGH WASTE THE PRINTERS OR MY COMPANY HAS TO EAT.
WHEN WE GET THE RAILROAD TO LOOK INTO THIS, IT'S NEVER YOUR FAULT,
IT'S ALWAYS WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE.

When you go to a store and find damage products on the shelf, you
don't buy it, you pick the good one, not torn, wet, bent, damaged.

We would like to be treated like a customer and resolve claims for us
without making us feel like slapped your mothers.

thank you

CUSTOMER

Name: jw
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2007

why are you not satisfied with brcf run off insurance. i know of no one
else that is not satisfied with this for this is the oldest and most
reliable insurance that i know of. if you have had a claim that was
refused then have it handled. you had to be in some really wrong doing
for your claim to be turned down. if you need help in a claim please
answer.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 June 2007

Don't buy BR&CF

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 May 2007

allman bros:
If it is not dirty, man you do not like it.
Get a job, and a life.

GOOFY

Name: ALLMAN BROTHERS
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 May 2007

GOOBER HE GETS PAID FOR PLAYING WITH HOSES. I KNOW YOU LIKE TO PLAY WITH
BIG BLACK HOSES FOR FREE,BUT THE SWITCMAN IN THE YARD GETS PAID TO DO
IT.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 May 2007

Goob, It's a yard thing about air hoses.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 May 2007

Taking away air hose money? Are you kidding.
Who in the world would think that coupling air hoses was not part of
the job.
Amazing
GOOFY

Name: Chunky
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 May 2007

KLS denies my pay all the time!

I was wonderin who that person was. KLS took away both my Christmas and
New Years holiday away from me a month after it was paid. Also been
taking away air hose money too here and there.

What makes a person act like that?

Name: Wildman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 May 2007

Paying bonuses on a graduateed scale would work in a perfect
world.We,however,don't live in a world like that.

Graduated bonus payments would be meted out according to merit in some
cases and others would be payed according to the skill the payee could
kiss a Trainmasters ass.We've all seen this kind of behavior before
and it makes me sick.You know,the employees that are continuously
marked off on weekends,gets train scheduled in a favorable manner,and
if there's a deadhead home,they get it.

This is one reason a Union agreement is needed.The playing field is
leveled for everyone,the slugs,slackers,and jerkoffs,all get the same
benefits as the productive workers get.(sometimes more) 

I just keep plugging along,praying that some day wild dogs will descend
from Heaven and eat these no good for nothing parasites before they drag
my job down into the toilet.The EIB system is a prime example of
dragging a job into the toilet.Before if you were displaced you could
float a day to get your loose ends in order before you had to change
jobs.Now at 0001 Monday you can be on a new job and not even know it
until you are called.The affore mentioned SS&J's would take the
longest possible time to mark-up every time.This caused a hardship for
the rest of us then and now it's come home to roost.

Oh well,it's really of little consequence to me anymore as I have been
able to hold a switcher job for several years now.I just wonder what the
next contract will bring to deal with the SS&J's? Wild dogs,great
winds,giant scorpions?

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 May 2007

rumor has it kim had surgery called addadictomy,.... so as to better
screw the employees!   her cervex was removed during the operation.

Name: Claim Denied
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 May 2007

Hey Kimmy Stokes (aka KLS), 

I hope your cervix falls out of your dried-up nasty old cunt. 

You can't get away with screwing people out of their honest,
hard-earned money forever! One day you it will come back to you 10
times as bad as you dished it out. You'll get yours someday you
worthless, company load! I hope an asteroid lands right on your payroll
office. 

KARMA, BITHCES!!!

Name: joker
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 May 2007

Article 16 (PL days) - The Carrier will not schedule additional PL days
this year because the limits have already been set; but they will cash
out any additional PL days due that were not taken a holidays (see Side
Letter #39). 
Article 18 (Vacation Agreement) - The Carrier will not schedule
additional vacations this year for engineers receiving an additional
6th week because rosters have already been set; but they will pay
eligible engineers (with 30 years and 5000 accumulated days) the
economic value of their sixth week of vacation prior to September 30,
2007 (see Side Letter #23). 
Article 40E (not required to take call after 6 PM for 8 PM call) - Will
take effect May 19, 2007 (along with 0001 for mark offs for PL days,
Daily Vacations and Rest Days.  I have no notes regarding weekly
vacations, but as I recall the conversation the 0001 mark off for
weekly vacations will not take place until the EBS is in effect.) 
Article 42 (0400 mark up) - Not in effect until EBS is in effect (see
Side Letter #40) 
Article 45B (off days - drop turn)  - Not in effect until EBS is in
effect (see Side Letter #40) 
Article 48 (yard service - new assignment after 3 consecutive days or 5
out of 7 = new assignment) - until programming LC must notify CMC by
email (see Side Letter #38) 
Article 55 (Road Switchers/Mine Runs - new assignment after 3
consecutive days or 5 out of 7 = new assignment) - until programming LC
must notify CMC by email (see Side Letter #38) 
Article 74 (Changes in Assignment that require re-advertisement)  - Not
in effect until EBS is in effect (see Side Letter #40) 
Article 75 (Annulments)  - Not in effect until EBS is in effect (see
Side Letter #40) 
Article 81 (Electronic Bid System - Standing Bid)  - Not in effect
until programming complete (see Side Letter #40)  
Article 82 (Guaranteed Extra Boards) - Reduction against guarantee in
effect May 5, 2007.  The rotating rest days to become effective around
the end of May (date unspecified).

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 May 2007

As he put on his Scooby Doo pajamas...he was one tired man!

Hey Chris...working like that will ruin your sex life...sorry, I forgot
you worked for the CSX!

Name: Chris Carlson
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 May 2007

I Was Working Somedays 7 Days A Week Without Sleeping

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 May 2007

Hey Goober:

You're right about bonus programs being hard to administer. Depends on
who is doing the grading and if the grading is objective or subjective
and if the grader knows the difference!

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 May 2007

Take a look back at the previous posts and you will see the word WE.

And not the word ME

Hope that you get the Bonus system from a WE mentality to a ME Reality

Man that will pay the best a bunch, and scare the crap out of the
sleeping slugs.

I am a firm believer in pay for performance, and think that Your wages
(RATE OF PAY) should be handled the same way.

Now go figure that one out??

I know that this will never work, because the unions want to make darn
sure that the slowest, most worthless, make the same as those that do a
really nice job. Age old RR problem that no one has ever FIXED

GOOFY

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 May 2007

A Bonus Program is a wonderful thing, that is very hard to administer
fairly.

Example===If a slug gets the same as you, it is not a worthwhile
program.(You should have been paid more for doing the right things)
If all Tm's get the same it is a broken program, and just causes hard
feelings.

The program must flow from the top to each and every employee, on an
individual basis. Now folks that takes a lot of work.

Yep here is the part that makes it work. Engineer 1 gets 5k and
Engineer 2 get less? or more? yep that is the way it should work, Now
we have to evaluate every one's performance.

The way to do that is rate them on a day to day basis.
Yep, you will have the 1 to 10 number assigned, and managers will
assign these numbers. Some will give you a 1 and some will give you a
10.

At the end of the year if the money comes, it goes to the 1 and flows
in lesser amounts to the 10 or 10 to 1 whichever works.

Really comes down to a grading system just like we all had in school
some get an A and some get what is left.

The unions should buy into this, as it makes the best paid the best.

GOOFY

GOOFY

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 May 2007

No bubble bursted here yet,

Not all TM's got the full bonus.  
Here in Philly one TM quit because his bonus was cut among other
things.  The Division manager can do that.

Name: Lowcountry
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 May 2007

Kruger,
 Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Tm's RFE's, DM etc bonuses/goals
are based on the same schedule as David Brown's (VP Transportation) 
Tony Ingram is over the whole company now.  We as engineers are in
transportation and have to make transportation's goals to even get a
bonus...if there is money for it.  I for one would want to be based
locally, if we do a great job and have no injuries and don't tear
stuff up, I would want a higher bonus rather than have a lesser one
because some dude in New York doesn't know how to protect a shove.  I
know for a fact that TM's were paid a bonus of 140% of their potential
last year, and most all TM's are at 15% bonus level.  I also know for a
fact, here down south, since Jacksonville and Florence Divisions
finished 1st and 2nd in safety in 2006, Jax manager's got higher
bonuses on the average of 180% and Florence got 160%, So if I was a TM
making $65,500 (starting pay I am told by our new TM) and was paid 160%
of my 15% bonus potential, that would be $15720 for total pay of
$81,200.  

Last year I worked the XB most of the year and made $64,000 with a
bonus of 100% at 8% that is $5120...if we were graded like my RFE and
TM 160%-180%, I would have had a bonus of $8192 to $9216 for year of
$73216. (a difference of $4096)

I for one had hoped we would be in with the local goals, because I and
our local division have more control over what happens, and I think we 
work harder that any TM or RFE to make the RR safe.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 May 2007

xyz

There are some bad LC's that is a fact. Most I believe do a good job.
What is wrong with our unions is the majority are not actively involved
leaving it up to a few to make decisions. Everyone of us should be able
to make it to 4-6 union meetings a year without having to mark off. If
that would happen we would be stronger. People don't realise local
agreements can be changed and it only takes 6 members to do it. All
that needs to be done is someone brings up a proposal it's voted
wether to take it further then next union meeting it's vote on. I see
this happen and those that sit on the sideline are screwed when it goes
in to effect. Get active in your union, if you have problems then bring
it out at your division/local meeting. Crew room union meetings are
just a BS session and nothing more.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 May 2007

Yes, 
The yearly bonus paid to contract employes is based on bonus's that
upper management, i.e. Ingram gets.   If he makes his goals as set by
the board, we make 100% of our scheduled bonus.  The criteria for the
goals is set by the board and registered with the SEC as per the
Sarbines/Oxley act., so the goals are public knowledge for the
investors.

Trainmaster's bonus's have nothing to do with it.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 May 2007

Goober, to answer your questions

1. Local rep could be a trainmaster of District Manager.

His bonus gets whacked if he is denying legitamate claims.  Prevents
him from doing it out of spite, since his bonus gets whacked.  

Has nothing to do with what a Local Chairmen gets.

Name: xyz
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 May 2007

Your right, engineer. It was a rediculous thing for me to say. I
apologize to all the hard working LC's.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 May 2007

xyz

If you think that LC's job is so easy then I suggest you step up to
the plate and run for their office. It's a lot more complicated then
you make it. That LC is not a full time union rep, unfortunately they
too have to make a living. I get paid claims that go back 2-7+ years
not even remembering what they were about. If the LC can't get it paid
locally then it's creates additional paper work on their spare time and
it goes to the GCA. Know what your talking about before making a
ridicules comment.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 May 2007

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AP
CSX to Buy Back $1 Billion More in Stock
Tuesday May 8, 4:55 pm ET  
CSX to Repurchase $1 Billion More in Stock, Hikes Dividend 


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) -- Railroad operator CSX Corp. said Tuesday it
will repurchase an additional $1 billion in company stock, raise its
dividend by 25 percent and make $6.4 billion in capital expenditures
over the next four years.
ADVERTISEMENT
 
 
The additional share repurchases raise its current buyback program to
$3 billion through the end of 2008, which is equivalent to about 15
percent of the company's total market capitalization.

The company also said it would raise its quarterly dividend beginning
in September to 15 cents from 12 cents and plans to invest $6.4 billion
in its operations over the next four years.

CSX will spend $1.5 billion in 2007, $1.6 billion in both 2008 and
2009, and $1.7 billion in 2010 to meet expectation for increased
freight demand. CSX will target its track, equipment, technology and
facilities.

"These actions emphasize our confidence in the earnings power of CSX
businesses as demand for our rail and intermodal services is robust and
expected to grow," said CSX Chairman and Chief Executive Michael Ward
in a statement.

CSX said it expects to achieve record levels of operating income and
earnings per share this year.

CSX shares rose 60 cents, or 1.3 percent, to $46.50 Tuesday.

CSX, based in Jacksonville, is a leading transportation company
providing rail, intermodal and rail-to-truck transload services. The
company's transportation network spans approximately 21,000 miles with
service to 23 eastern states and Washington, D.C., and connects to more
than 70 ocean, river and lake ports.

Name: xyz
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 May 2007

"When denied, first step is at the local level,  The local chairman
and
a company rep will discuss the denied claims."

    LC- "I want to discuss this denied claim with you"
   CSX- " We're not paying it"
    LC- " Okay, thanks, I guess your right"

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 May 2007

According to what we were told at the SSA informational meeting the PBP
is tied to upper crust management and not local. So, this stuff of
protect your TM, RFE ect... so you get yours is a bunch of nonsense.
That theory has already been squashed.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 May 2007

Hey
 Freddy I have a few questions on this post
1. LC and A Company rep meet-- Whom would that be? at what level?
2. They agree and the claim is paid or it moves to LR. OK got that.
3. If the claim is legit, Does the LC get whacked for sending it
forward, nope he gets nothing, The LC will send every claim forward.
4. The co rep whomever that might be is gonna be loaded up with little
stuff. And you want to cut the bonus for every one he does not win,
think again. That is not going to happen. Most likely the poor guy has
never seen a Bonus in his life.
Let me clue you in a little, There is not now, nor will there ever be a
CSX employee or manager that will deal with a LC on behalf of CSX.

GOOFY 
Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2007

Under the new SSA agreement between CSX and the BLET there will be a
new
claims process.
When denied, first step is at the local level,  The local chairman and
a company rep will discuss the denied claims.  If not resolved
locally,
they will go up to Labor Relations to be resolved.  If the claims are
legitamate and approved by Labor Relations,  the local
representative's bonus will suffer.

It is supposed to stop claims being denied arbitrarily for no apparent
reason.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2007

Under the new SSA agreement between CSX and the BLET there will be a new
claims process.
When denied, first step is at the local level,  The local chairman and
a company rep will discuss the denied claims.  If not resolved locally,
they will go up to Labor Relations to be resolved.  If the claims are
legitamate and approved by Labor Relations,  the local
representative's bonus will suffer.

It is supposed to stop claims being denied arbitrarily for no apparent
reason.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 May 2007

CSX IS THE WORST COMPANY I HAVE EVER BEEN WITH. THE EMPLOYEE IS THE LAST
THING ON THERE MIND SAFETY FIRST WHAT A JOKE THE ONLY REASON THERE ARE
SO MANY SO CALLED SAFETY RULES IS BECAUSE IT S A WAY THEY ARE ABLE TO
COVER THEIR ASSETTS. CSX MOTTO SHOULD BE MAKE US MONEY AND GO SCREW
YOURSELF.. AND FOR THE ATTENDENCE POLICY WHICH IS DELEGATED BY
SOMEONE'S WHOS HOURS ARE 9-3 MON THRU FRI AND NEVER HAS TO WORK
HOLIDAYS OR WEEKENDS GIVE ME A BREAK EVERYONE WOULD BE BETTER OFF
WORKING AT WALMART HANDING OUT STICKERS BECAUSE AT LEAST THERE YOU
WOULD GET A LITTLE MORE RESPECT...

Name: DAD
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 May 2007

NEW HIRES BEWARE,YOUR PREVIOUS EMPLOYER MAY HAVE APPRECIATED YOUR HARD
WORK AND DEDECATION,BUT CSX IS A WHOLE NEW BALL GAME. THE SOONER YOU
LEARN THIS ,THE SOONER YOU CAN FIT INTO THEIR SYSTEM.THINGS YOU SHOULD
KNOW;MANAGEMENT KNOWS EVERTHING,YOUR DUMB AS A ROCK,AND IT IS TO THEIR
BENEFIT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.WHEN THE PHONE RINGS YOU BETTER JUMP,BUT
DONT BE SURPRISED IF MANAGEMENT WONT RETURN YOUR CALLS IF YOU HAVE A
QUESTION,ESPECIALLY IF IT CONCERNS MONEY.YOU WILL FIND OUT SOON ENOUGH
WHY THEY TAUGHT YOU EVERTHING ABOUT THE RAILROAD IN SCHOOL, EXCEPT HOW
TO COLLECT YOUR MONEY,THATS RIGHT YOUR MONEY! DID THEY TELL YOU THAT
YOU WILL MAKE MORE DURING TRAINING THAN AFTER YOU MARK UP,TRUST ME ITS
TRUE.DID THEY TELL YOU THAT YOU WILL PROBABLY BE FURLOUGHED DURING THE
FIRST YEAR,MAYBE NOT ONCE BUT TWICE,I WAS.DONT GET YOUR FEELINGS HURT
WHEN YOU CALL YOUR TRAINMASTER TO FIND OUT WHEN YOU MAY BE CALLED BACK
TO WORK,AND HE IGNORES YOUR MANY PHONE CALLS,ITS NOTHING PERSONAL,YOUVE
JUST BEEN RAILROADED! IF YOU HAVE A STRONG BACK ,WEAK MIND ,AND DONT
MIND JUMPING THROUGH HOOPS ,YOULL DO JUST FINE,BUT THEN AGAIN WHAT
CHOICE DO YOU HAVE,YOU ALREADY HAVE ABOUT 10,000.00 INVESTED IN THIS
QUESTIONABLE JOB,NOT TO MENTION A YEAR OF YOUR LIFE.IF THATS NOT
YOU,STICK YOUR NOSE UP THE NEAREST TRAINMASTERS ASS,IF YOU CAN ROOT
YOUR WAY IN THERE THROUGH ALL THE OTHER KISSERS,AND HOPE FOR THE
BEST,AFTER ALL THATS WHERE MANAGERS GET THEIR START.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 May 2007

Pop's, I guess you get paid till your awarded the new assignment. Which
I do believe is on saturdays.

Name: Update
E-mail: update@csx.net
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 April 2007

Time for a stock update to see who is screwing you over good.

Are you still eating Mac & Cheese on your lay-over while the CSX
big-wigs are eating Prime Rib and staying at the Hyatt and Hilton?

INSIDER TRANSACTIONS REPORTED - LAST TWO YEARS 
Date Insider Shares Type Transaction Value* 
20-Apr-07 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 17,332 Direct Option Exercise at $19.07 per share. $330,521 
20-Apr-07 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 17,332 Direct Sale at $45.27 per share. $784,619 
15-Mar-07 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 251 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $37.29 per
share. $9,359 
15-Mar-07 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 318 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $37.29 per
share. $11,858 
15-Mar-07 RATCLIFFE DAVID M
Director 318 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $37.29 per
share. $11,858 
14-Mar-07 INGRAM TONY L
Officer 3,167 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $36.58 per share.
$115,848 
14-Feb-07 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 87,666 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 - $19.8 per share. N/A

14-Feb-07 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 87,666 Direct Sale at $42.01 per share. $3,682,848 
14-Feb-07 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 3,888 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 per share. $62,480 
14-Feb-07 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 3,888 Direct Sale at $40 per share. $155,520 
13-Feb-07 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 3,932 Direct Option Exercise at $19.07 per share. $74,983 
13-Feb-07 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 3,932 Direct Sale at $38 per share. $149,416 
9-Feb-07 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 19,900 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $0 per share.
N/A 
2-Feb-07 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Option Exercise at $28.50 per share. $2,850,000

2-Feb-07 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Sale at $37.90 per share. $3,790,000

Name: BLE-T
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 April 2007

Brother and Sisters

 

Please be advised that the three (3) General Chairmen and BLET Vice
President Paul Sorrow met with CSXT Labor Relations during the week of
April 23rd for the purpose of determining the Articles that could be
promptly implemented in the new System Agreement dated April 25, 2007. 
Please be advised that all Articles of the System Agreement are now
implemented with the exception of those directly related to the
Electronic Bid System (EBS). Those Articles are: 40 (E) as temporarily
modified, 42, 45 (B) 74, 75 & 81. A temporary modified Article 40 (E)
will be implemented on May 19, 2007 until the Electronic Bid System is
implemented.   Please note that all monetary items are in effect as of
April 21, 2007 (start of payroll period), such as the $15 & .015 cents
per overmile, continuous detention (held away from home terminal) time
after 15 hours, and the new meal allowances. Meal allowance should be
claimed with the code 1 and 4 as previously used and any additional
meal should be claimed under code 97 (“03” screen) until the payroll
department issues new instructions.

 

Article XII of the 1996 Agreement remains in effect until such time the
Electronic Bid System programming is being developed, tested and
implemented. A more comprehensive explanation of the new System
Agreement dated April 25, 2007 will be issued to by the BLET General
Chairmen in the near future. The signing Bonus will be paid in a
separate check no later than June 15, 2007 and all adjustment in pay
back to January 1, 2007 will be paid in a payroll check issued no later
than June 15, 2007.

 

During the first stages of implementation, we will obviously encounter
problems. As you well know, documentation is essential to making
corrective measures and each of you are requested to strongly encourage
our members to assist you in providing you with written adequate 
information necessary to handle any grievance, claims, complaints or
issues associated with the new System Agreement. Moreover, please do
not hesitate to promptly contact this office with any
questions/concerns you may have. With best wishes and kind personal
regards, I am

 

Fraternally yours, 

 

 

Don Moates, General Chairman

Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen

CSXT - Western Railroad Lines

(423) 263-0909

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 April 2007

aaahhhhh....thats good to hear, i dont think anyone wants me back on a
iron ore train traveling 60mph at 3 am.....will we get paid till the
bids take effect or untill the bids end?
i guess everyone will be biding in the jobs that are always getting cut
off now.

Name: CEE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 April 2007

Side letter #9 states the intent to buy out the guarantees anyway. It
also stares that it is the jurisdiction of the Disputes Resolution
Committee. Kiss them goodbye altogether. Maybe not tomorrow, next week
or even next year, but I believe the days are numbered. The same fine
folks that presented this agreement(the GC's and an equal number of
CSX appointed representatives) are the Disputes Resolution Commitee. We
ought to get a bundle. Ya think?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 April 2007

If displaced by job abolishment you'll be paid for the rest of week
till the next bid. The only time they can put you on the extra board or
vacant slot is for reasons beyond control like floods, derailments
ect....

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 April 2007

i look for more slots to be created on extra boards, i may not have read
it right but didnt it say under the ebs, that if a engineer was
displaced he would be paid till the next bid, OR, be placed on a vacant
job,or a vacant slot on a extra board.
if this is true (which i am not sure i read it right) why would the
company pay you when they could enlarge the extra board and get you to
work?
my problem is i am to old and worked to many years out here to be
called for a train at 2 am today and 10 am the next. this is my biggest
problem with the ebs it can assign you to a job you dont want!...be hey
i may have misunderstood it?????   any thoughts about this , am i right
or did i miss read it.....oh hell who cares i dont have that long
anyway........buy when these big big bonuses start rolling in i may
never leave!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 April 2007

There might be reductions of slots on engineer extra boards. CSX would
have a huge savings on that one seeing the PBP is based strictly on
engineer work. Plus, CSX has the benefit of using cut back engineers
anytime they want the savings by not paying a year round bonus is a
major benefit. For the younger engineer I wouldn't worry so much in a
few years us 'baby boomers' will be retired and you'll be marked up
permanent. In the future I'd be more worried about preserving the
craft of engineer because I predict once the pre-93 engineers are gone
the railroads will try to combine everyone in to one craft the true ALL
PURPOSE EMPLOYEE (APE). The UTU has/is in aggreement with the carriers
on this issue that is dangerous.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 April 2007

Basicly, say GOOD BYE to eng. gaurentee boards, These are just some
observations I see with the new SSA agreement, I pray I am wrong but, I
am also a realist and can read between the lines as to what has been
voted into place. 

If the majority of engineers are in place and the displacements through
out the week ceast then there will be no need for CSX to supply the
extrabords with an excess of people, Therefore junior engineers will be
forced to use their trainmen seniority, wich in turn will roll down hill
to those who are barely hangig on to a job.(more walking the street) CSX
will more than likely keep enough turns on the board so that everone is
makeing close or barely over their gaurentee the boards will be
regulated to their favor. "Bid System" WTFE if you can't hold a job
on a continual basis, think about this, say you win a bid for week one
on a regular job and get it, but the second week of the half you find
you can only hold the board. Your earnings for the half will be
whatever you worked since the gaurentee is structured on a 14 day half
that you must be on the board for. So basicly, good bye gaurentee. It
will however be neat to see 30yr plus engineers on an extrabord because
of this "Bid Sytem". Big seniority coming down is harder to stop than
a little seniority going up. I can go on and on about this agreement,
although it has some good parts, it doesn't look good for the newer
generation of railroaders. And that To me is sad. My intention in no
way shape or form is to union bash, but if you are a junior trainman in
the BLET, and find yourself falling on hard times, remember This is a
blet agreement. Some other findings:

We will not be compensated for Demand day Off, 

No more seniority moves to "extend" vacations

If 100% of the bonuses are paid out it will only cost CSX pennies on
the dollar compared to what thay will save in gaurentees system wide.

Artical 60 "scope rule" is full of holes, as is all those "side
letters"


Anyway, there are just so many things, Sorry about the long post I just
needed to ramble.

Name: JJ Rawling
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 April 2007

So its about 11:30 on a Wednesday night when we're driving around.  We
are in search of ice becauase people needed ice.  As we persuded are
quest we got a craving for a slerpy.  We rushed to a sevenn eleven to
fuffill our appetite.  We walk in to the station and it is the
sketchiest seven eleven I've ever seen.  The lights were flashing on
and off just like they were in Saw III.  The floor was discusting and
in deep need of matenance, it was a nice white tiled floor, the only
problem is it was covered with black dirt, gunk, and trash.  I saw a
crushed slurpy cup on the ground with my own eyes, I swear.  Jt, a
friend of mine who is about 6 foot 1, has a big neck and was probaly
whereing a polo.  He goes inside and exclaims, "oh good they have
ice."  As he says this a man walks past him whom Jt wasn't talking
to
at all and goes "Man! Man, I don't know, Man i don't work here, I
don't know man!"  We walk away from this when another kid i'm with
gets a starbucks coffee out of the refridgerator that's a double
shot,
the lady at the desk says he can't get that.  He asks "why", and the
lady at the desk says "he's not old enough, you need to be 18."  JT
who is 18 says I'm 18 and its for me" The lady and JT get into a
fight.  "No, You can't have it! You'll give it to him"
"No, I won't! It's for me"
"Yes, you will, I know it" 
So we all went to the slurpy machine to get slurpies instead.  We go
back there and there are two young girls scrubbing the slurpie machine.
 We try getting slurpie but it doesn't work right. We ask him if the
flavors with the light on mean they work.  Thwy answer, "No the ones
with the lights off don't work."  So we're getting slurpies and out
of no where the guy that said he didnt work there screams at the top of
his lungs, "GUYS GUYS...... (5 second pause)...CALM DOWN" By that we
all just didn't get what this place was so we ran out...TO BE
CONTINUED

Name: JJ Rawling
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 April 2007

So its about 11:30 on a Wednesday night when we're driving around.  We
are in search of ice becauase people needed ice.  As we persuded are
quest we got a craving for a slerpy.  We rushed to a sevenn eleven to
fuffill our appetite.  We walk in to the station and it is the
sketchiest seven eleven I've ever seen.  The lights were flashing on
and off just like they were in Saw III.  The floor was discusting and
in deep need of matenance, it was a nice white tiled floor, the only
problem is it was covered with black dirt, gunk, and trash.  I saw a
crushed slurpy cup on the ground with my own eyes, I swear.  Jt, a
friend of mine who is about 6 foot 1, has a big neck and was probaly
whereing a polo.  He goes inside and exclaims, "oh good they have
ice."  As he says this a man walks past him whom Jt wasn't talking
to
at all and goes "Man! Man, I don't know, Man i don't work here, I
don't know man!"  We walk away from this when another kid i'm with
gets a starbucks coffee out of the refridgerator that's a double
shot,
the lady at the desk says he can't get that. To be continued.........

Name: Pissed Off
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 April 2007

Many years ago, the Teamsters put down their baseball bats. A couple
years ago, they got into bed with the railroad. Let's pick up our bats
and show both sides what we think of their contract! I demand a recount!
I say we all should mark off 5/2/07. it's a Wednesday so they can't
hassel us too much on attendance. Fluck 'em all!

Name: none
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 April 2007

for what ever it's worth the carrier is asking for transfers to
Columbus Ohio  and  Danville Ill.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 April 2007

Same S*** three years later im glad CSX fired me for being injured
atleast I dont have to worry any more about being investagated or
receiving a nasty gram for marking off, and CSX still sucks and all you
A holes like GOFFY that still think they know what its like to work for
the RR and have never seen a train except for on TV and at toys r us
make me puke, all you corporate pricks, GMs, TMs, and all the BLE and
UTU cronies still suck. Like they say you get what you pay for,  THIS
IS A PAY AS YOU GO WORLD SOMETIMES YOU PAY A LITTLE SOMETIMES YOU PAY
ALOT AND SOMETIMES YOU PAY WITH EVERYTHING YOU GOT. well since I was
fired 3 years ago for being injured I guess that puts me in the paying
with everthing I use to have, like a home, a wife and most of all being
injury free. Sincerly fired 3 years ago.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 April 2007

How can anything be tallied when I know for a fact that several
engineers from my terminal havent received a ballott yet and have
requested one several times, and also Ill bet a majority of engineers
would like to have a public count of all ballots! How can you determine
a count when the deadline was on a sunday, probably more ballotts in the
mail? Smells extremely fishy dont ya think?

Name: FYI
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 April 2007

To all BLET CSXT WRL Division

 

Please be advised that the Single System Agreement was ratified by a
margin of approximately 60 percent for and 40 percent against based on
the total votes returned and received by our National Division Office
as of today. 

 

We plan to promptly have a meeting to sign and implement the agreement
as soon as possible. I will be out of the office the major part of this
week in Mobile, Alabama handling negotiations on the Alabama State Dock
Terminal Railroad.

 

I will keep you apprised of all developments and advise you further as
time permits. I certain appreciate all the assistance and input each of
you has given in the handling of this Single System Agreement. I equally
appreciate the opportunity I had to meet numerous members, the
fellowship shared and questions asked during each of the meetings. As
you may or may not know, I visited each BLET CSXT WRL Division during
the last four weeks either in separate or combined meetings for the
purpose of explaining and responding to concern or questions regarding
the SSA. I firmly believe our members have made the right decision to
protect our jobs for the future and for the future of future engineers
and trainmen who may enter into the Locomotive Engineers craft.   

 

With best wishes and kind personal regards, I am

 

Fraternally yours,

 

 

Don Moates, General Chairman

Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen

CSXT - Western Railroad Lines

(423) 263-0909

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 April 2007

Hey Indy:

Not without the help of some of the Institutional Investors like
TIAA-CREF or CALPERS, but they can certainly get their attention!

Over the years, I have seen 100s if not 1000s of shareholder proposals.
Most(90%) have been sound and in the shareholders best interest. I
can't think of one that ever passed. However through time and repeated
submissions of the same proposals, management was eventually forced to
change their ways!

Management of public companies, for some reason, considers themselves
bullet proof...which is a fatal mistake, usually, but not always for
the shareholder. The bylaws of the company are written to make it
almost impossible for shareholders to remove board members, who in turn
can remove the CEO, etc.

It is, in most cases necessary to change the bylaws concerning how the
stockholder's votes are counted before management feels threatened.

Personally, if I could sit on a couple of these boards, why would I do
anything differently? However, these public companies have offices full
of highly(over) paid business and industry experts which are suppose to
look after the shareholders best interests. Why is it necessary to have
a Board of Directors? In reality it isn't. The boards are there at the
sole discretion of the CEO's and tradition and their primary purpose
is to set his compensation! Everything else is pixie dust. The board
meetings amount to nothing more than a circle jerk and a waste of the
shareholders money. 

Another interesting question to ponder is why would it be necessary for
a large public company like CSX to ever hire consultants? They already
have an office full of qualified experts and if that's not enough,
they also have a Board of Directors to provide additional guidance. CSX
hired consultants to review Ward's compensation package, they also have
a Compensation Committee consisting of several board members which is
suppose to handle the same thing!

The shareholders need to wake up and ask what the hell is going on?
CSX is, like most other public companies, wasting millions and millions
of dollars on unnecessary and frivolous expenses!

Have an ethical CSX day...

Name: Lowrance
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 April 2007

SSA Didn't pass  you no good sharp shooters can still make your moves i
guess i'll just have to stay off with my finger injury

Name: IndyEngineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 April 2007

I thought I was the only one who voted against what the Board
recommends!  I hope all of us "little people" can make a difference. 
After all, we are the ones actually making them money!

Name: no duh
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 April 2007

***************************NEWS FLASH*********************************



THE CSX SINGLE SYSTEM AGREEMENT WAS RATIFIED TODAY BY A 60% FOR---40%
AGAINST MARGIN OF VOTES. IT WILL BE SIGNED ASAP AND PUT INTO AFFECT.

LONG LIVE THE BLE-T, HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 April 2007

Hey Friend:

Good for you! All the other shareholders need to take time to read and
understand what the proxy statement is saying. 

It's not just CSX...it's most other public companies. The boards and
senior management of these companies are stealing...and it's right
there in the proxy statements and the shareholders continue to allow
them to do it by voting the board's recommendations. All these men and
women on the boards and in senior management need to be wearing
stripes...and I'm not talking pin stripes either.

Frankly, as boards go, the CSX board is pretty good. I have recently
seen some companies that pay the board members $300,000.00 annual
retainers. CSX only pays a $75,000.00 annual retainer and there is only
1 member(Royal) that in my opinion serves too many masters. Service on
more than 3 boards, on public companies will automatically disqualify a
candidate in my book!

I also bet you didn't know that it only took 1 vote to be elected to
the board! There are all sorts of interesting twists in Corporate
America. Wise up!

Had the shareholders of Enron, MCI and Tyco been better informed,
perhaps those companies would still be viable. Read the notes to the
financial statements, your amazement will only grow!

If at all possible, you should attend the Annual Meeting in
Indianapolis in early May. CSX will start rehearsals a week or so
before the big event. There will be CSX managers in attendance who will
be given question to ask Ward and Ingram. The answers they give
will come right off a script that was designed to make them look good
and will be diverse enough to placate any other shareholders in
attendance.

Should you want to see some crow hoping or toe dancing, just ask how
the FRA could find 3,500 violations system wide if the company is as
committed to safety as Ward insists they are, or about the 2 deaths in
upstate NY before Christmas? Ask why management feels it necessary to
repurchase $2 Billion in stock if the future is as bright as Ward says
it is? Ask what the policy is concerning the personal use of company
assets is, in particular the company aircraft? It is not unusual for
senior level managers to fly their wives and/or girl friends, children
or just friends around, for whatever reason, on company aircraft and at
company expense! If you don't believe me, just find the Ford proxy and
look at the deal their board gave the new Chairman.

It's your money and the best way to care for it is to be well
informed!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 April 2007

Get your proxy/vote envelope out, fill it out and send it in!  Like I am
sure many of you have done in the past I have always opened the large
envelope, thought it was too complicated and threw it away.  Today was
different.  I took the time and I was amazed!  The crooked board is
actually suggesting that you vote against the shareholders
(yourselves).  This is what keeps their big bonuses and golden
parachutes flowing.  All you have to do is vote for everything they
tell you to vote against.  If everyone voted against the board's
recommendations we could make a change!  If you have the time to read
the materials you will be shocked.  The two things the board wants you
to vote for 1. Their re-election (see page 53 for the negative comments
about various members) and 2. Ernst & Young as Accounting firm (wonder
why - who's paid them off?).  They want you to vote against items 3,
4, 5 and 6.  Go to the last six pages (49-55) and see why.
Vote and send it in - mail, telephone or email!  Do it today your vote
has to be in by April 26th.  When we don't vote they get the last
laugh.  Read it for yourself.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 April 2007

Well I guess it's all over but the gnashing of the teeth...I wonder how
long it will take the BLET to tally the vote?

I understand the boys on the NO&M have or will sign an on property
agreement, although I don't know what the details are.

I hope it works out for all the engineers regardless...time will tell!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 April 2007

i am sure that if general chairman mr. hancock or out ex local chairman
w.e.vanhorn sees this that they  know who put this in. this is 
regarding what someone had to say about vanhorn marking off and getting
paid for hisself while he was marked off making excess o$193.000.00 plus
over $15,000.00 in union pay in year 2004 working  only 54 days during
year. all this is the truth he once made the statement that he could
collect pay for his dog if he had i.d.number.
if by any chance you have any doubt about please call general chairman
hancock or international president mr thompson or mr. mike pendergrass
in jax.by the way vanhorn has not marked off since kicked out of local
chairman office. csx said they cannot do anything unless mr hancock
will handle by the way if he had been steeling from csx   he would have
been fired but the utu thinks it is ok as long as he steels from these
young conductors.just ask anyone in fitzgeral lodge 1790 if you donot
beleive this is true.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 April 2007

this if for all you young conductors think about this the union U.T.U
has done very little for you since 1985 look they or we members sold
out the brakeman then the flagman guess who is left the condr.so be
attending your local lodge meetings every month and try to keep the
condr but do not worry for you will be in engineer service before long.
in your career the U>T^U union will not be here for all those good
releigous people who now only worries is that their jobs may not last
forever about all they want is your dues for their pay why worry about
your contract which has been out for over 2 years by the time you get a
contract another one will be due to you.keep paying those dues of about
$1,000.00 a year everything will get worst you just don0t mark off and
work every day.

Name: Troll
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 April 2007

I'm sorry for my outbursts.

I've been off my medication.

I've already been banned from one site because of my anti-social
behavior...so I've had to start my own site.

I've been coming to as many sites as I can to pimp my site to get more
people to post because eventually I chase them off with my sophomoric
insults.....because I've been off my medication.


Sorry.....



Troll

Name: j.h.
E-mail: none
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2007

i would like all young railroad men not to do the things i did for my
first 30years of service i am now paying for it i spent and parted most
of the time i now have 40 years of railroad expence and in last  10
years i have saved by putting money in 401k plan i wish this had been
availabe earlier. my point is this don,t plain on working with tthe
r.r. forever get into 401 now so you will not have to work latter in
life.put as much percentage as you can into it. in the last 10 years my
401 is over $200.000.00 just think how much it would be worth if i had
been putting money into 401k sooner my wife is not 60years old yet only
like 1 year to draw retirement so i have 1 year left to work if i donot
get run off by csx. i have seen a lot of changes some for better and
some for worst so all you young r.r. men try to save a little every pay
day and you will not be in my situation.during my railroad expence i
have changed by the way i have been married 42 year with 3 boys none
works for our good railroad they don)t make the kind of money i do but
they do have a life. good luck to all you young conductors and hang in
their things will get worst for you thanks to our good union that was
to blame for you paying for your job.the csx is no worst than what your
union lets them get by with.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 April 2007

looks like a spelling, comprehension issue to me.

GOOFY

Name: juggernaut
E-mail: icefever87@netscape.net
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 April 2007

hey. i am trying to apply to csx, but everytime i do, something bad
always happens. like i was suppose to work in the Bronx, NY and they
said i didnt need 2 years of work or school. i would just slide in real
quick. now they told me that i have failed this personality test, which
i passed the very first time i took it for the same company and for
other different companies. I need to know what is going on. is it me or
are they extremely picky about picking people. i was told that they
needed people down in the bronx and i already have the proper training.
instead of 6 weeks in atl, i would only have to do like 2 weeks! can
someone help me please? 

feel free to write to me at Icefever87@netscape.net

thanks.

Name: Voteing Against Everything
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 April 2007

I received my "personal" invitation to CSX's shareholders meeting May
2 from Mikey Ward. Thanks Mike, but I need to know how to mark off with
crew mismanagement to attend so I can vote AGAINST everything the Board
wishes us to vote for. Please advise ASAP!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 April 2007

So that explains how the LC gets vacation when he only works 2 or 3
times a half.

I bet with that knowledge, all the incumbents have a bunch of
challengers come election time. I can see all the campaigns starting
now. I guess there are perks that go along with being a LC!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 April 2007

I bet that LC made his vacation for those years he didn't work. I've
seen it happen before, LC's can count union time for days required to
make vacation. It's frustrating, but nothing can be done about it.
Your local voted this person out hopefully you'll do a better job and
won't abuse the system.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 April 2007

i would like for everone to know what our general chairman hancock in
jax is good for. in fitzgerald we had a ex local chairman vanhorn too
put in claims for himself in ,2001 2002, 2003.and 2004  in the last
year he was paid over $193,000.00 PLUS UTU LODGE 1790 PAID HIM OVER$
$15,000.00 TO REPRESENT US AND COLLECT PAY FOR OUR CLAIMS WE HAVE TRYED
VERRY HARD TO GET MR. HANCOCK TO HANDLE THIS FOR OUR EXTRA BOARD MEN
WHICH ALMOST EVERYONE HAD PAID $4,350 FOR THEIR JOB TO GO TO CLASS FOR
THEM THIS WAS MONEY THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THEIR CLAIMS.
THIS LOCAL CHAIRMAN VANHORN WORKED ONLY 54 DAYS IN 2004 BUT WAS PAID 
FOR ALL THESE CLAIMS AND MR. HANCOCK TELLS US THAT NOTHING CAN BE DONE
ABOUT THIS AND WILL NOT EVEN TRY TO GET ANY OF THIS MONEY BACK  FROM
VANHORN.MR. THOMPSON OUR INTERNATION PRESIDENT HAS ALLREAD TOLD HIM TO
HANDLE THIS BUT HANCOCK HAS REFUSE TO DO SO THE CSX HAS PAID THE CLAIMS
AND CANNOT HANDLE UNLESS HANCOCK WILL HANDLE BUT HE REFUSE TO DO SO. I
JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE REPRESENTING THE
YOUNG CONDUCTORS IN THE UTU YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER JOINING THE BLE
INSTEAD.THIS HAS BEEN IN HANCOCK FILES FOR OVER 2 YEARS AND NOTHING HAS
OR WILL BE DONE BY HIM.HE TELLS US WE DID ENOUGH WE THEW  VANHORN OUT AS
LOCAL CHAIRMAN IN NOVEMBER 2004 SO THIS WAS ALL THAT WAS NEEDED.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 April 2007

NoMo, The rates of pay Article #1 are retroactive from Jan 1, 2007 with
back pay. Under Article #3 (Rate Progession) it states it will become
effective on the date this agreement is ratified. So, I think your
friends might just be lucky enough on going to 100% if it's after
April 16th seeing ballots aren't due in till April 15th.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 April 2007

Hey Loco 20-30:

If the SSA is ratified, what will the effective date be. The reason
I ask is the only 2 remaining men from my class have been called to
engine school on 4/16. 

I gave the copy of the SSA I had back and I can't recall what if
anything was said about that. Since the pay rates aren't retroactive,
I thinking the effective date will be 4/15.

I hope I'm wrong because there will likely be a rather large class
starting on 4/16!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 April 2007

Let me retract one statement about the inclusion of cut back engineers
nowhere in the SSA Articles #2 & #3 does it specifically address cut
back engineers. The GC's were the ones who stated that cut back
engineers would recieve the signing bonuses and go to 100% pay rate. I
reread my post and it was a little misleading in my comment.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 April 2007

NoMo, I agree, No one is forcing anyone. But, you should know what your
getting in to by attending one of these meetings. The key elements in
my opinion to getting this possibly ratified was the inclusion of
everyone who holds an engineers certification plus those in engineer
training wether marked up or not will get the $2500 signing bonus and
go to 100% pay rate. People will look at the short term money and not
the long term possible ramifications of the work rules. I know looking
at some of the younger engineers those that are cut back at the meeting
their attitudes changed. I still have my doubts the wording of Articles
#2 (Signing Bonus) an Article #3 (Rate Progression) are vague and CSX
can interpet it to their liking. Nothing in these articles address
specifically cut back engineers will recieve signing bonuses or will go
to 100% pay. For their sake if they vote for this agreement they won't
be let down. 

I had several discussions with VP Paul Sorrow outside the meeting
taking short breaks. We discussed things one on one and he is
intelligent enough to know CSX is one of the most difficult railroads
in this country to deal with today. He didn't disagree that on several
issues CSX might twist it around to conform it to their likings. That is
where the problems arise and these dispute/resolution committes might
have their hands full and hopefully will keep their pledge of working
for our interest. If this is ratified that it doesn't end up like the
'96 on-property contract that went sour when no meetings were held to
dispute/resolve open ended issues.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 April 2007

Hey APE 1-10:

They're FORCING you to sign it!

They may tell you it's in your best interest to sign it; and they are
certainly able to force you to do things you would rather not do.
However the SSA is something they can't force you to sign.

It's your call...if you like it, vote yes; if you don't like it, vote
no.

Don't let anyone make up your mind except you. Either way, the worse
that can happen is you have to live with a shitty agreement!

Name: APE
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 April 2007

5.5 hours, it was getting rough after 3.5 . I still don't like the fact
that they are forcing us to sign something that's not finished. We are
signing what's in the book and nothing else! The side letters and
other changes will basically be done without our consent. Please, send
in your votes. If you are a short timer, think about us younger guys,
vote NO! I am. I know I had my mind made up before the meeting. CSX
screws us daily, those are just the little ones, I don't think my butt
can take a huge 30+ year flogging!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 April 2007

Hey Loco 20-30:

In the words (edited for TV) of that great American, Harry Callahan it
sounds like it was a "CLUSTER FLUB".

I hope you didn't miss a days work, or have to waste a DV or PL day to
attend it. Now that would piss me off!

As bad as I am, my wife doesn't harangue me that long...except when I
don't put down/up the seat!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 April 2007

Conrail???? I heard rumors of they might get this forced down their
throats if it passes. 

I did find out CSX was the one who instigated getting this SSA in to
negotiations. My point was the BLET didn't have to entertain the
motion. We'll see by the end of this month wether it gets ratified. I
don't recall the question about independent monitors being brought up
on the votes. Like I stated it was difficult to get your questions in
because one issue seemed to go on for 45 minutes to an hour.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 April 2007

NoMo, It was difficult to get anything brought up for questioning
because we had three BLET divisions present comprised of three former
railroads and each issue became long and drawn out that's why I got
burned out after 5 1/2 hours it was still going on when I left. 

Who knows on the tenative national contract? On the BLET website it
stated thursday two issues needed to be resolved because of vague
wording when it got to the lawyers hands and it needed to be
readdressed. 

I agree, upper crust will definitely get their bonuses by the board.
Their bonuses have been in the 160% ratio, our will be capped at a max
of 100%. They did actually state we get chump change compared to Ward.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 April 2007

Hey Loco 20-30:

5.5 hours...that's painful!

The BLET didn't happen to explain why they didn't release the
proposed national agreement for a side-by-side comparison did they?

Well at least you know the BONUS PROGRAM is tied to Ward's and the
rest of senior management, who will always get theirs! I wonder why
they would call it profit sharing, I don't recall that term being used
anywhere in the proposed SSA. I agree that a bonus program and profit
sharing may be two different animals. Bonuses come in wide variety of
flavors. Can I assume that any flavor bonus senior management might get
will trigger your bonus and/or profit sharing awards?

Did they mention which independent organization was going to monitor
and certify the election results?

What are they going to do with the former Conrail bunch? It can't be a
Single System Agreement with only 75% of the system engineers included,
no agreement on national seniority and numerous other unresolved
issues?

In concept a well thought out system wide agreement for the engineers
and trainmen benefits all parties, the contract personnel,
management, customers and stock owners. However, haste makes waste. To
me this agreement seems hastily thought out and is being crammed down
the engineers throats with vague wording and without adequate
explanation.

I trust the engineers to make a wise decision, I just hope the BLET
isn't misleading them and the election is above board with no
irregularities (hanging chads) which have been know to occur and skew
the final results!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 April 2007

Pop's, Nothing really much to tell even though I spent 5 1/2 hours
listening and it was still going on when I left. I had already voted
against it a week after it was sent to us. It wasn't the snake oil
routine I expected. Electronic Bid System is going to be a wet dream
for someone who bounces around a lot, but according to what we were
told your bids on jobs would be permanent meaning your choices stay the
same every week until you change them. The bonus program which they were
calling profit sharing which they are two different things are
supposedly linked to Mikey Ward, Ingram ect...not local management like
TM's, RFE's ect...so if the board of trustees give the upper crust
bonuses we get them. They even admitted under this we would only be
ahead financially till 2011 hopefully when section 6 notices are filed
in March 2009 the base pay rate would be discussed to become equal with
the national contract or there is the snap back provision they couldn't
answer wether this would be a members vote or a vote of the divisions.
Under the snap back we would still be under the work rules set in this
agreement and under those that haven't even been resolved. That is my
big problem unresolved issues, if this is voted in why should CSX play
fair. The Scope Rule I still didn't get an answer to my satisfaction,
they think it's a must have and most of us would agree, but the way
it's written it's to vague. 

Sonny

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 April 2007

Hey HTL:

He probably either stroked out or he's in the house of deeds for
conduct unbecoming!

You might be interested to know that the copy of the CSX SSA I read was
sent, along with the ballot to an engineer on another railroad here in
town. With 38 year of service to the same master, he hasn't changed
horses lately.

Nothing like knowing who the players are!

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 April 2007

sonny,
well are you going to vote for the ssa after your little pow wow with
the big cheese's?
was there anything worth while attending other than to watch them take
turns patting themselves on each others backs....was there 100 dollar
bills hanging out of their pockets with csx written all over it????
we are waiting for a review!!!
                        pops

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 April 2007

NoMo, In less than two hours I get to hear the spinmasters from the BLET
sell their snake oil on the SSA. It should be interesting seeing three
divisions will be present and each work under different agreements.
I've already have questions written down, so I won't just address
them without ammunition. I'll post a synopsis of the event later on.

Name: Executive Secretary
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 April 2007

It is rumor at the office that the CEO is going to announce the cutting
of over 75 train masters and other terminal managers as well as 300
plus Engineers and trainmen. I understand that CSX has a new plan that
the unions can not touch that will eliminate over 1,000 T&E jobs by the
end of the year as well as 800 management posistions

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 April 2007

Hey Loco 20-30:

Sounds to me like the BLET is leading with their chin and will get
their ass handed to them in a court fight should anyone choose to
challenge the election.

Smoke filled rooms, arm length deals, these guys are representing
themselves not the membership. Even those members which support the SSA
have to be appalled at the handling and should the SSA prevail it did so
because the playing field wasn't level. 

If the union sold you out, just think what plans CSX has for you!

The 3 CSX GCs need to be recalled as do the International Officers for
allowing it to happen. Contracts should be voted up or down based on
merits not promises made by your elected representatives.

I wonder if any departed members cast ballots from the great beyond?

The water is rising and the sandbags are out. That jig they were
planning on dancing at the successful election outcome may end up being
a crow hop!

Get those ducks lined up and stay tuned for a summer of high drama!

Have an ethical CSX and BLET day...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 April 2007

NoMo, If the BLET were a truly democratic union we would of had that
right to make an informed decision on either the CSX SSA or the
tenative national contract. What we got was the over inflated ego's of
the three CSX GC's and the ND in Cleveland is pacifying them by not
releasing the national till April 16th one day after the vote on the
SSA. Notice I stated three GC's the fourth GC from the former Conrail
didn't want any part of this SSA so their not included. This ends up
becoming not a total single system agreement if 1/4 of CSX is not
included. Talk about bullschidt.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 April 2007

Hey Loco 20-30:

As an after thought...for this to have been a truly fair election, the
National Agreement should have been presented along side the SSA and
the membership given the opportunity to compare the two and make an
informed decision. As it is, the BLET didn't allow their membership
that opportunity!

The lawyers may have a busy summer! Perhaps we'll see who the union's
Designated Legal Council really represent!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 April 2007

Hey Loco 20-30:

I'm not surprised it's a done deal, usually in cases like this when
the word gets out, the deal has already been cut! You can bet your
bonus that the UTU contract is also a done deal and will be sent out to
the membership as soon as the smoke clears from the BLET ratification
vote.

The BLET wants some sort of victory, do they? I would think any
contract ratified by their membership in a fair election should be
considered a victory for the union as well as their members.

I hope the BLET is open and above board in regards to having a
independent organization certify the election results or else they
leave themselves open to a Duty of Fair Representation Claim from the
membership.

Would, the Office of Labor Management Standards have any jurisdiction
in elections like this? I know they have jurisdiction over internal
union elections and fiances, but I just don't know about labor
contracts.

Good luck...either way as long as the election is fair, I think
everyone can live with that, although some might not like it, majority
rules!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 April 2007

NoMo, According to local management from what they've been informed by
CSX higher ups the SSA is a done deal. It appears the union is just
putting on a good front. We've questioned the counting of ballots the
self addressed envelope went to BLET HQ in Cleveland and not an
independent agency. That drew our suspicions. LC's have questioned it
and were told independent monitors would be present. The BLET wants
some sort of so-called victory wether it be ill concieved and dishonest
to many years of getting their butts kicked. In my opinion the IC/CN was
a BLET victory and their contract does pave the way for the 21st century
by eliminating parts of the RLA for a decent pay rate they did away with
arbitraries and countless trips to mediation. Just the savings in lawyer
costs was beneficial to the IC/CN. We don't need mergers of unions the
IBT Rail Conference is a good place each union is left intact, but
threw unity all unions would have strength. This SSA goes against
affiliating with the IBT it shows weakness in my opinion.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 April 2007

Hey Loco 20-30:

Trip rates, Electronic Bid System the list goes on and on. Engineers
today, trainmen tomorrow. Rather than using this round of contract
negotiations to bridge the abyss between management and labor, they're
only widening and deepening it. Shortly, it will be the contract
employees whom will be held responsible for all system performance, as
management continues to cram down their responsibilities to the
contract employees.

It seems the only purpose of management will be to make labor
miserable. I can foresee a time when every job, if not every employee
has it's/their own personal TM, following you around like a puppy,
reciting chapter and verse while waiting to put you out of service!

The entire industry is broke, the unions and the carriers are out of
control and major surgery is required if the industry is going to
remain viable. There should be no sacred cows, every thing from the
RLA, RRB, etc. should be scrutinized.

The carriers are held hostage to the regulations to the same degree
that labor is. Accordingly everyone, except senior management, loses!
The "System" was designed and enacted for a different time and
conditions and is in dire need of modernization. The first carrier
thats successfully overcome these obstacles will get the golden ring.
The remainder will get the booby prize and fade into oblivion.

Yesterday I discussed Side Letter # 1. An engineer had better have
documented hospital or emergency room admittance papers or they might
be subject to absenteeism handling! Think about it. If you have to go
to the hospital every time you're sick just to CYA, what will that do
to the health insurance premiums the company pays? Guess what...think
your cost, deductible and co-pays will go up? It's a vicious circle, a
circle which must be broken or the carriers will continue, with the help
of the union to negotiate contracts which further erode contract labors
standard of living!

Currently the conditions are such that CSX is or will lose large
numbers of experienced employees. As an example, the CN/IC is hiring
engineers for Jackson/Hattiesburg, MS. I understand that to-date 4
CSX engineers have left, 3 from Mobile and 1 from Pensacola. The CN/IC
is planning on hiring 10 more CSX engineers, all of whom have 7 years
or more experience. I wonder what that will do for CSX's safety
record?

As for the all this strike talk, it ain't an option. In the 35 or 40
years that I can remember such things, I don't ever remember a
instance where labor came out substantially ahead, they were lucky to
break even when you consider the lost time.

Unfortunately, all I see is hard and harder times for the contract
employees unless they can put their personal differences aside and
develop a vision and take the lead in implementing changes. 

The difference amounts to living on Easy St. or living on Skid
Row...it's their choice!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 April 2007

NoMo, We were talking about the loss of ITD/FTD yesterday as we sat for
4 hours doing nothing waiting to depart and how no one has to be
accountable anymore. I was discussing the SSA with a friend who tried
being an official and came back running an engine, it's funny he came
up with the same synopsis about CSX doing away with management bonuses
and going to pay raises which could circumvent this PBP. The fact that
people are reading more than there is like under the Electronic Bid
System if your job is abolished CSX will pay 'a basic day' a lot are
under the impression they'll pay you everyday till the next round of
bids. It's in clear cut english no hidden BS it states 'A Basic Day'
so all you'll get is one days pay. I looked at this agreement in it's
most restrictive nature which is how CSX looks at it, and it's a turd.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 April 2007

**********BROTHERS AND SISTERS*******************

The clock is ticking on the deadline to vote on the contract.........
Get your balot in and make sure you VOTE NO!!!!!

VOTE NO!!! VOTE NO!!!! VOTE FUCKING HELL NO!!!!

That is all

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 April 2007

Hey Loco 20-30:

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I would hope your
Brothers/Sisters at least respect it, although they may not agree with
it.

Remember a few years back when they still had the ITDs/FTDs? I believe
trip rates did away with those. They also took the accountability away
from the Yard Masters and Terminal Train Masters!
The bottom line now is that no one is responsible for anything. They
can call you out 4 or 5 hours before your train is ready to keep from
paying detention time just so they can pay O/T later! And when you do
get out on time, you just sit for 4 or 5 hours within sight of your
destination. Trip rates put the pre/post '85 employees on a level
playing field...now CSX gets to screw everyone equally! One added bonus
the trip rates provide CSX is they allow CSX to cover up the
incompetence of yard management and inefficiencies in the system.

I believe if CSX still had to pay ITDs/FTDs, large numbers of
supervisory personnel would no longer be employed in that capacity, and
those left would have to perform or be held accountable.

I liken the SSA to the proverbial carrot dangling in front of the mule,
who will work all day in hopes of getting the carrot and goes to bed
hungry...then gets up and starts all over again, and on, and on, and
on. Smart farmer, he MIGHT have to use one carrot, he can save the rest
for himself!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 April 2007

The most puzzling aspect is if CSX is pushing hard for this SSA then it
isn't in our best interest. Some people are slow learners, they forgot
about all those claims that were denied, they forget about TM's
harassing them with e-test failures for petty BS, the archaic
attendance policy which this SSA goes along with CSX and Tony Ingrams
plans ect...the list can go on and on. If they took the time to see the
actual NS bonus agreement they would see how cheap were getting sold
out. The NS engineers get $30 extra per job start from friday to
sunday, they recieved a 10.5% base pay increase in 2000, a 4% increase
in 2003, and a 3% for 2007 that's more than we recieved on the past
national contracts. Our GC's settled for 3% base pay raise with the
COLA from 2005-6 taken away which is just a 1 1/2% increase from what
we make now and this is for the life of this agreement till 2010. Then
they expect us to accept arbitraries like enhanced meal allowances and
EC pay as being called raises an arbitrary can be haggled away at
anytime. I sure some of my haters will chime in.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 April 2007

To many people with periphial blinders on looking straight ahead at
dollar signs that are just an illusion but not looking at what will
cold cock them from the sides. Mabey if they read what was going on
with the NS LE's on the BLET forum it might make them see clearer. If
it looks like a rose but smells like dung then it's dung. It's like
the old joke of the two Siberians walking across the tundra and find a
turd "It looks like schidt, it smells like schidt, it taste like
schidt, It must be schidt!!!".

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 April 2007

Hey Loco 20-30:

After reading the proposed SSA my opinion hasn't changed, it's 197
pages of pixie dust to blur your vision. As far as simplifying things,
to me it only makes thing more complicated and a lot less certain.

Side Letter # 1, dealing with absenteeism handling/medical pretty well
sums it up..."It is agreed that locomotive engineers subject to
documented hospitalization and/or emergency room treatment will be
excused from any absenteeism handling"...

If you're sick, regardless of how serious it isn't, you better go to
the hospital, or else. Reminds me of when I was in school as a
CHILD...because that's how CSX and the BLET is planning on treating
you, like children. Just consider the stock awards, bonuses additional
vacation etc as allowances for behaving yourselves. Should Big Daddy
Warbucks take exception...guess what?

Although, I have no stake what so ever in the SSA, I do know a little
about horse trading. Rule # 1...never except the 1st offer. You always
leave too much money sitting on the table!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 April 2007

At least our Canadian Brothers/Sisters have the guts to strike. That was
evident with the trainmen strike on the CN and the antics that followed
with the UTU ID based in Cleveland (USA) firing the CN GC's and not
sanctioning the strike. Here our unions capitulate to the carriers and
we end up with inferior agreements (SSA). But because of dirty politics
within our union we'll never know the full contents of the BLET
tenative national contract till after the vote on the SSA.

Name: railroad pete
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Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 April 2007

herd cp is preparing for a possabile strike with the mow by contacting
some sub contractors for their future derailments

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 April 2007

hey you liking the electronic bid,thats the way the company wants it. do
you think its for our benefit, i dont think so! you must be a company
suck!!!!!

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 April 2007

so this  is what we have come too? a bunch of sissies calling our fellow
workers names? by god retirement will be sweeter just by getting away
from this b.s.!  you are doomed if this is the way that you conduct
your  business!    doomed i say!   or as Mr. T would say 
"I pitty the poor the fools"

Name: tran killer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 March 2007

Come on guys, let's not get into bashing each other.  Sure, there is
problems with both unions, but this forum is CSX-SUCKS, not UTU-SUCKS
or BLET-SUCKS.  Let's not focus our time and energy on tearing down
each other, that's what the CSX Fuck Face Executives want.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 March 2007

Pop's, Some people are cowards and this person is one of them. To think
he's a member of the BLET and will call even those he disagrees with
Brother on that forum then cowardly hide behind his anonimity here.
It's not the first time he's done it. 

Sonny

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 March 2007

Marvin Sullivan, Seeing your willing to sell out the younger man with
your yes vote on this SSA because it'll enhance your retirement with
the few years you have left it shows your low charector. Just like the
old heads when I was a newbie only thinking of yourself.

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 March 2007

loco 10 ta 20,
 dont use peoples names who are your coworkers/union brothers because
you dont agree with them, it likens you to the lowest of the low.  if
you and i agreed on everything we wouldnt need you!
i am asking  you to stop or be man enough to post your real name 
instead of cowering on this forum.
                h.t.long

Name: dragline
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 March 2007

Loco less than a year-You better turn that GED in. You obviously cheated
or bought the damn thing. Take{or reject} some free advice. The men and
women you work with in the field care a whole Hell of a lot more about
you than any union rep or company ass wipe. This is just another step
to bust the unions and pad the coffers of the management and
stockholders. It is just that simple. Show some balls and reject this
ass wiping SSA. You are the one who is going to get Mr. Stiffie up your
poop chute first.
Tell these rotten ass union whores to get back to the table and get us
a decent contract. Otherwise you are going to see one man crews and
eventually unmanned trains if these greedy fuckers get their way!

Name: spongebob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 March 2007

Sounds like loco. engineer for less than 1 year would be a fine
candidate for a Trainmaster, RFE position.  I would almost bet this is
his first good paying job.  Let me guess you're prior military,
Wal-Mart, perhaps janitor. It's not that I don't appreciate what I
have, but we deserve a lot more than the CSX prosposed agreement is
offering.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 March 2007

And like the planet Pluto you don't excist anymore. Mike Ward made
$16.8 million in compensation in 2006. If you just take the $2500
signing bonus and multiply that by 5000 Locomotive Engineers on CSX
Ward is still ahead by $4.3 million.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 March 2007

Don't worry Loco less than 1 year, whenever people lose an argument -
they resort to name calling.  Molter has been doing this for some time.
 He has a dangerous combination of ignorance AND arrogance!

Name: CEE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 March 2007

Loco less than 1 year: Think about it, if everyone stays available, no
displaced time, etc. there will be no reason to keep as many people on
the boards so guess who's gonna get cut off. Hope you liked being a
conductor cause you might be one again.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 March 2007

Newbie, CSX is sharing? Give me a break. NO Pay Raise a meager 1 1/2%
from what we make now and that goes to 2010. Go read the definition of
the word 'Bonus' nowhere does it say pay raise. In fact CSX gets to
keep your money (if you get any) till the next year not payable till
March they make money off of this deal interest free. It's chump
change. CSX controls how much you will get that 3rd number in the
equation CSX controls 6% x $60,000 x 0% = $0. My figures are for
dramatic purposes but the BLET has no control over that third
percentage and whatever CSX decides to put there is undisputable. Your
a newbie so the EBS doesn't mean anything except you'll still stand
for possibly nothing. Those GC's are whooped puppies at CSX feet
whimpering, I liken then to lion without teeth their just big pussy
cats no bite anymore.

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 March 2007

loco for 1 year.......you have a skull full of mush!!!
  don moates said ......lol

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 March 2007

I don't know why everyone is so dead set against the single system
agreement. I think it sounds pretty good. I've been an engineer for a
year next month and excited about the new agreement and its
improvements to our working conditions. CSX is making record profits
and have realized its time to share the pie with the men and women who
actually run the trains. 

Some people apparently do not like the electronic bid system, and I
don't know why. Now I will never be displaced anymore and the computer
will make my seniority moves for me. Don Moates told us some western
railroads use this system and really love it.

I like the demand day off, and dropping your turn options too. This
should help those who complain about quality of life on the railroad
have more time at home. If you stay marked up every weekend for six
months you get the 20 shares of stock. This is a nice bonus in itself,
because your supposed to stay marked up anyway.

As far as losing guarantee for marking off weekends, honestly thats not
that bad. Think about it. You work for the railroad. If you want a
regular life, go teach public school. Or scrape gum off the floors at
K-mart. You dumb asses, just like me, work for the railroad and i'm
here to tell you there ain't too many places for a bunch of
hillbillies lucky to have a GED able to make $70K plus and then you
ungrateful bastards raise hell cause you don't work 9 to 5 weekends
off. 

Be grateful for what you have. People are dying in Iraq and others
makin' $6 an hour at Burger King and you SOB's wanna bitch and raise
hell. I work with several guys who basically cannot read and write very
well makin' good money on CSX. Where would they be without CSX? under
the hood of a car at the Quickie Lube.

I'm not trying to be harsh, just tellin it like it is. You will vote
yes for the SSA if you know what's good, and what's good for you.
Please urge your brothers to as well.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 March 2007

The old head isn't going to be responsible for voting it in. We're
only around 18%-20% of the workforce.

Name: spongebob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 March 2007

Finnamore is a joke. I Bet he does'nt loose any of his salary when he
takes off work.  This proposed CSX agreement sucks.  It's good for old
heads who are on the verge of retiring, that about all.  Any one else
who votes yes is a fool. Giving up COLA's and hoping CSX makes their
profits so we can get a bonus at the end of the year, I don't think
so.  Just got called, gonna try and dog another train.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 March 2007

Finnamore is selling us out because he is STILL dismissed from the
company, and has his termination on appeal...if this passes, he will be
reinstated....can you smell back room deal?  He'll be working for
Menefee in labor relations by the end of his term.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 March 2007

Isn't that the truth. It seems our GCofA's and the BLET are slow
learners they must of road the short bus to school. If this SSA is
voted in then we didn't learn anything from the '96 agreement that
CSX doesn't have to play fair once they got what they wanted. I guess
the new boys on the GC block Moates (sort of new he had a 14 year
absence) and Finnamore must be selling us out to obtain this open ended
incomplete agreement. They had good teachers Roy and Menefee both are
now working for CSX in labor relations.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 March 2007

I would assume the same goes for VP Sorrow or General Chairman. Just
because they have the title doesn't make them competent as can be
evidenced by the totally incompetent contract they are trying to force
down our throats. HARHARHAR

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 27 March 2007

In regards to the post from the BLE Engineer from Lafayette, IN posting
a letter from designated cousel wannabe Cy Gerde addressed to Robert
Casad- what a joke!  I think I know who this Engineer is and he would
go pee pee in his black pants if he knew CSX knew he was even logged
onto this site!!

It is no surprise that Mr. Casad would seek outside
approval/disapproval/analasys for the pending BLE Single System
Agreement.  First of all- Mr. Casad never finished the 9th grade. 
Secondly, he has a history of pawning off his responsibilities onto
others.  And as far as Cy Gerde goes... Well, a couple of years ago he
frivolously sued the UTU as well as one of their Local Chairpersons for
failure to represent.  Too bad the suit was thrown out because Mr. Gerde
filed in violation of time limits- only around  18 months too late, so
it was definitely an honest mistake. By no means should this be
construed as a sign of incompetence.  I am sure he is kind of guy you
would want to trust with any litigation...NOT!  The same FELA case that
Mr. Gerde did get was ultimately outsourced to another larger more
competent law firm.  

Just letting everyone know that when it comes to truly understanding
union contracts or anything to do with railroading in general- these
two clowns have definitely "outkicked" their coverage.  Take this
posted letter with several thousand grains of salt.  Just because
someone has the moniker of "Attorney" next to their name by no means
should it be interpreted that they are qualified.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 March 2007

Troll:

Your arms are not long enough to pat yourself on the back, so don't
try.  Also, don't put down this site when the webmaster is gracious
enough to let you advertise for free!

Name: Burning Journal
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 March 2007

Why waste your time reading stupid post from uninformed and misguided
posters. Come see why Burning Journal is becoming the FASTEST growing
and BEST railroad forum on the NET!

Come join The BEST Railroad Site on the NET!

http://burningjournal.activeboard.com/

Name: Atlanta Div TM's Rep
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 March 2007

Oh No Mo Gillerarse you are my hero!

Everything I said is true...I am that smart...

My "work" laptop is a CSX IBM Thinkpad R32 type...

My personal laptop is a Dell Inspiron...McDonald's and Flying J have
wi fi as well, it is everywhere!

I wish I could publish your transcript for the world to read, but this
technology doesn't allow it.  Maybe on the advice of the many wannabe
lawyer types on here you could sue your local chairman for
malpractice?

I will not bore you with a long winded "robin hood" speech, but I
will see you around, no...wait, I won't...good luck with the court
thing.  

Follow the rules, work safe, show up for work on time ready to work
safe and efficient and you will be fine!

One last thought 4 the day: Don't go away mad...just go away...LOL :)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 March 2007

HANNA, GERDE & RUSSELL

ATTORNEYS AT LAW

FIFTH FLOOR

LAFAYETTE BUSINESS TOWER

P.O. BOX 1098

LAFAYETTE, INDIANA 47902 

CY GERDE TELEPHONE (765) 742-5005 

MARY A. RUSSELL FAX (765) 742-6490

E-MAIL: info@hgrlaw.com    

Website: www.hgrlaw.com

GEORGE L. HANNA 

OF COUNSEL 

 

19 March 2007

 

Robert L. Casad

Local Chairman

Division 7

Brotherhood of Locomotive 

Engineers & Trainmen

RE: Proposed BLET/CSXT Single System Agreement

Bob:

You have requested that I review the proposed Agreement Between CSX
Transportation (CSXT) and the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and
Trainmen (BLET). You have also furnished me, for comparison, a summary
of the tentative RLBC/NCCC Agreement.


I have, over the decades, had the responsibility and opportunity to
negotiate many contracts on behalf of many locals of many different
internationals. I have reviewed many local and international contracts.
I know that reading contracts is about as much fun as reading tax law or
understanding alternative health plans. This proposed contract takes 197
pages and, to make it more complicated, what it appears to gain on one
page, is taken away on another page. For example, page 62 clearly
guarantees air conditioning in every locomotive, but on page 167, Side
Letter # 7, removes the Company’s obligation to retrofit any existing
locomotive, so there really is no change. 


Every contract has a history, and that often explains how we get to the
obvious patchwork of language in this proposed contract. It also
explains why it takes 31 pages for the rate schedules which are almost
20% of the contract pages. One page or one sentence could probably
replace all of the schedules. No one knows all of the contract history,
but while the history may explain how the words were created, it is the
words that are looked at in calculating paychecks and determining
disputes. The existence of 29 Side Letters shows how complicated the
negotiation for this contract was. Unfortunately, Side Letters normally
give back what was bargained for in the contract. 


Usually, when reviewing a contract, I look at the scope clause first.
Contracts’ basic protection is a job, pay and conditions come second
and third. No job and your pay and conditions are irrelevant. 


 

Robert L. Casad

Page 2

19 March 2007

Unfortunately, I do not see any protection for the Brothers and Sisters
in the proposed Article 60 Scope Rule. At the very minimum, operation in
terminals under this scope rule, could soon be all remote, maybe even
from a central office. I prefer the basic part of the simpler and more
protective scope rule of the 1955 B & O Agreement:


"Any locomotive operated over main tracks or principal side tracks
within yards shall be operated by locomotive engineer of that seniority
district..." 


A contract must protect jobs.


As risky as the proposed clause is towards protecting jobs, one would
think that therefor pay and benefits would be better than under the
national contract. It does not appear that there is a pay or benefit
improvement from the national contract.


First the pay is worse. My original thought is that it would take each
individual’s calculation to see if a member is better or worse under
the 2 contracts. This is similar to calculating your taxes under 2
different situations. After a number of Brothers and Sisters have
calculated their individual situation, I find no one but the company
comes out better under the proposed Single System Agreement. I
appreciate their help in this evaluation.


The signing bonus is nice, but the language makes it clear that the
bonus may never actually occur. Even assuming the bonus and many other
favorable things, $7,000.00 - $35,000.00 less income over the coming
years is a typical calculation. But the contract language makes me
believe that you will not see most of those favorable things, such as
the mysterious basis for calculating the performance bonus concerns me
that it may never be seen by anyone.


The 401(k) match, increased expenses, held away starting after 15
hours, are all good things. But even the 15-hour clause has a serious
hole which allows a busted call to restart the 15 hours for 2-hours
pay, and you go to the bottom of the board. The 15 cent per mile on the
basic day pay seems goods, but no language says that it applies to
trip-rates.


The new electronic bid system appears to have a transition stage, which
is anticipated to be many months long, who will win on computer
glitches?--we know.

Robert L. Casad

Page 3

19 March 2007

Much of the language appears to greatly increase the Company’s ability
to terminate engineers. For example, careful reading of Side Letter
#13, shows that is will take at least FIVE YEARS for some people to
clear their record, and maybe 9 or 10 years.


While I have many more pages of concerns, I doubt that you expected
this to be this long, and for the time being, I think that the items
set forth above and the following paragraph may be as much as anyone
wants or needs to read to make a good decision.


The absence of a guarantee on the bonuses, the Company’s control of the
boards, less pay increase, much weaker record clearing provision, weaker
scope, and the list continues, are all reasons the Brothers and Sisters
should be very careful before voting on this contract.


Sincerely,




Cy Gerde

Senior Partner

Hanna, Gerde & Russell

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 March 2007

Come join The BEST Railroad Site on the NET!

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Name: HoffMaster
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 March 2007

NS ENGINEER
reported this  
Some of the lump sum payments were based on percentages of the previous
years earnings so I used the figure of $50,000 to calculate those
figures.

1991-$2,000 1992-$1455 1996-$2000 1998-$1750 2003-$1975 for a total of
$9180

So as you see for the remaining 7 years I will work for CSX I will lose
and additional $64,260 due to bonus and lump sum payments that were
substituted for a percentage raise on previous contracts
This $64,260 will be added to the $99,425 I have already lost due to
them up to 2007 for a grand total of $163,685 over 23 years 

I would like to point out that I did not add the additional $4,000 from
1993-1995 we recieved in lump sum payments that was put towards our
insurance premiums. If I had done so my total loss would have been
$150,784 to date plus $92,260 for the next seven years for a total of
$240,044 in 23 years on previou lump sum - bonus contracts! 

I hope these figures help you younger guys realize what these even
greater bonus wage packages offered in the SSA will do to your future
earnings. When I said you will lose Hundreds of thousands of dollars
due to bonus payment (even if you due get it)contracts I wasn't
kidding!

Name: HoffMaster
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 March 2007

Hoffmaster wants you to Vote no on the SSA. Can I count on you guys for
a no vote?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 March 2007

We All Know This Is not TRUE!

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AP
CSX Says It Won't Compromise on Safety
Thursday March 22, 11:12 am ET 
By James M. Amend, AP Business Writer  
CSX Says It Won't Trim Capital Spending to Improve Cash; Sees Little
to Federal Safety Probe 


NEW YORK (AP) -- CSX Corp. Chief Executive Michael J. Ward said
Thursday the railroad operator won't sacrifice capital spending,
especially on projects related to safety, to improve cash flow.
"That's something we won't even consider," Ward told analysts at
the JP Morgan Aviation & Transportation Conference in New York.

ADVERTISEMENT
 
 
Ward's remarks came three days after the head of the Federal Railroad
Administration said recent derailments of CSX trains in New York have
raised "real and serious questions" about the company's safety
programs and ordered an immediate inspection of 1,300 miles of track.

The investigation came at the urging of U.S. Sens. Charles Schumer and
Hillary Rodham Clinton, who were responding to a derailment on March
12, when 28 cars on an 80-car freight train in upstate New York jumped
the tracks. Eight tanker cars contained flammable substances and caught
fire, forcing the temporary evacuation of thousands of residents and the
closure of schools and roadways as giant fireballs rose in the sky. No
deaths or injuries were reported.

The incident marked the fifth derailment involving CSX in New York
since December. Jacksonville, Fla.-based CSX is also rebounding from a
derailment in Brooks, Ky., which so far has cost the railroad $30
million.

"Lately we've had an accident almost every other week around the
state," Schumer said on March 14. "Enough is enough."

Data from Schumer's office shows that 572 upstate New York rail
accidents in the past seven years have caused a total of $34 million in
damages.

Ward said CSX, which is cooperating with the investigation, reinvested
$1.4 billion into its operations last year and plans to spend the same
this year. About 58 percent of that money will go to its
infrastructure, while it will spend 12 percent on both locomotives and
freight cars. The remaining 18 percent is slated for new capacity.

At the same time, CSX said in February it would buy back $2 billion
worth of stock, or 10 percent of its outstanding shares, over the next
two years. It also plans to increase its annual dividend by 20
percent.

Ward noted that CSX recorded the most improved safety record in 2006.
In terms of derailments, the company ranks third among the four Class 1
railroads that report the data. He expressed doubt that the New York
investigation would uncover any wrongdoing by the company.

"This so-called investigation will find little there," he said.

Shares of CSX fell 16 cents to $39.90 in morning trading on the New
York Stock Exchange.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 March 2007

and fuck the union to they will tell us not to strike but they will back
us when we do because they want their money

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 March 2007

fuck csx lets do what cn did and strike make the trains fucking sit
still til they give us what we want lets fucking start striking back we
are americans not slaves. lets do something about this shit and show
some american pride.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 March 2007

Hey Melvin or whatever name your using:

Yeah it's you...you're the only one arrogant enough to spout off.
"Kiddies" gave you away. You consider yourself superior to the
contract (kiddies) employees. 

We all know that this site is a thorn in CSX's side and they would
love nothing more than to close it down or at the very least discredit
it. Why else would you and/or CSX make a veiled threat about losing you
job for posting on it and make such an issue out of it for the Neutral?

Personal laptop...you mean the one CSX gave you? The one you carry
around in your car and conduct CSX business on? Free Wi-Fi? Internet
cafe? Oh please spare me your bull shit, I know better, your not that
sophisticated, Krystal I might buy off on.

You can have the job, all things considered, it's average at best. I
want a judgement against CSX, I want their business, labor relations
and safety practices brought to the light of day. Since Ingram came on
watch CSX has systematically harassed and intimidated the contract
employees and put them at an increased risk of serious injury and
death, and in my opinion, made questionable public statements about the
state of CSX and injury and accident reports. I'm now in a position to
call CSX's hand. CSX has no leverage left!

I appreciate your concern about the lawyers bleeding me dry, but why
would that be any concern of yours or CSX's? Have I hit a nerve or is
CSX exposed? I am quite capable of managing my own affairs. If I were
you, I would be more concerned about the 100's of millions of
shareholders dollars that CSX waists annually on lousy yard management,
dispatching, crew management, main line derailments, haz-mat clean ups
and lack of ethics just to name a few.

You're right in that CSX is a business, a service business, with
customers and shareholders. Neither of which are receiving the service
they deserve and/or pay for. If you consider this a "sick play" why
do you continue to act in it? "Blood Money" by any other name is
still "Blood Money".

Thank god I'm out of this cesspool, my first and foremost obligation
was to the shareholders and customers of CSX...too bad management
doesnt feel the same!

Have an ethical CSX day...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 March 2007

Pop's, That isn't Hoffmaster it's an imposter. I should know I've
butted heads with him for at least 6 years in the BLET forum. In fact
the first post is just taken from the union website. One thing I can
say in Hoffmasters some what favor he doesn't ever change his mind
because even if he finds out something was wrong he'd never admit it.

Name: Melvin aka ATL DIV TM
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 March 2007

Oh NoMo,
  I love this website, I hope it stays up forever.  The beauty of all
this is, I never post using a company computer, but utilize free wi-fi
through an internet cafe' or someplace like Krystal through my
personal laptop. I could be Angie "Everett" or your buddy Phillip
"Abernasty" or even Tony The Tiger himself...In reality I just love
f__king with your fired ass! You will never get back, the lawyers will
take your money, bled you dry, all for them to tell you that you work
under the RLA and all grievances of your kind are handled according to
that law and your CBA.  This was all handled accordingly.  Good thing
you paid those union dues, instead of working hard, and doing your
job....in closing... to you and all other would be NoMo's ...the
railroad is NOT ABOUT YOU!  It is a business that provides a service,
you are nothing special, and neither am I... We are both puppets in the
same sick play, serving the same puppet master...except you don't work
here any more or rather "NO MO."

Melvin..Angie...Phillip...Rod...whoever I am who knows...who cares!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 March 2007

HAHAHAHAHAHA THE FOURLOUGHS ARE GOING FURTHER DOWN THE LIST WATCH OUT! A
BUNCH MORE ADDED TO THE APBR FOURLOUGH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GETTING SCREWED GETTING
SCREWED

Name: Leo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 March 2007

Marcus McCant is now a road foreman in some form on the Atlanta
division. I had the misfortune of working for this sack of shit in
Selkirk after the Hurricane.  I assumed (and had hoped)the guys up in
Selkirk had finished him off but he somehow got a promotion.  This
really makes me scratch my head, this mofo is a joke.

Name: ht long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 March 2007

hoffmaster,
i am so glad you woke up and smelled the pitunias!!!!
after reading your post on the ble i was ready to make my first post on
the site,.... but i couldnt figure out how to smack you with a 2x4 to
wake you up! it is all smoke and mirrrors with someone getting a big
payoff! (and it aint the workers),but i fear that the ballots will be
misplaced and counted as not mailed,and batta bing we have the ssa
passed!
 other than you i havent talked to or read anywhere or one who thought
it was good.... welcome aboard!
 im glad donnie let his true colors out.
how he was re-elected i dont know ? i guess after cleatus any one would
seem good!  i am waiting for the traveling donnie show to come to my
town!

Name: Hoffmaster
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 March 2007

The Bar has been raised  again
This is the second year in a row that NS has raised the bar. Raises are
written in stone and as one brother wrote they are compounded over the
years, the bonuses involve too many things that we as engineers can not
control.

If you vote for the SSA you need brain surgery.

Name: Hoffmaster
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 March 2007

Ya its me I had a change of heart.
I met Moates at a meeting and his true colors came out.
He is like a used car salesperson. 
This SSA is a lot of bologna no one will benefit from it but CSX and
their Mob friends in the union.

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 March 2007

hoffmaster is that really you???? are you saying beware of the ssa ???
after all the pro ssa agreement blog you belch out on the ble
website....it must be an imposter

Name: JJ Rawling
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 March 2007

Why do you guys all get mad at me!!? What did I do.!!?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 March 2007

Cy Gerde, a labor attorney, was invited to Division 7's monthly meeting
on 19 March to look over our proposed agreement. Cy has over thirty
years experience in the labor sector of law and has been involved in
the negotiation of many labor agreements. He had some very insightful
questions and comments.

Why does CSX want this agreement signed?

Why is the language in some of the articles not more concise?

Why are their 29 side lettters, most of them removing things from this
agreement?

What was wrong with the scope rule in the B&O agreement?

Why is CSX dangling a $2,500.00 carrot in front of us to sign this?

Why can't we know what the bonus is based on?

Why can't the bonus parameters be stipulated in an article or another
one of many side letters?

Why do we have thirty pages (20% of the written agreement) of weight on
drivers pay with tables covering jobs we lost 25 years ago?

Why do our general chairmen want this document signed?

Why does Paul Sorrow want this document signed?

Why are they pushing this so called agreement so much?

The last and most important question; WHY DO I WANT TO RATIFY THIS
AGREEMENT?

He went on to say that all labor agreements should address any or all
of these three items;

1) Pay issues
2) Quality of life issues
3) Safety issues

What pay issues are GUARANTEED by this agreement?

What quality of life issues are GUARANTEED by this agreement?

What safety concerns are GUARANTEED by this agreement? 

The only pay that is guaranteed is the signing bonus and the $10.00 EC
pay increase and the increase in meals, along with the 3% pay raise
over the life of this agreement. The only guaranteed quality of life
issues are the extra week vacation in year 30, and the faster
progression to max out the personal days. The only safety concern seen
adressed was the flashlight. Not sure if that was a safety issue or
not. Just didn't want to leave this catagory blank.

The key word in this whole thing is GUARANTEED!!!!!! What is
GUARANTEED. He went on to say that in his legal opinion this is not a
labor agreement. It is an unfinished document. His legal advice was to
not ratify this agreement until all the questions above could be
answered to your satisfaction by the signators to this agreement. 

^ TOP 

 Opt Out Provision / Snap Back 



You also heard Rick Finamore and Danny Knorek highly endorse this Snap
Back provision.

The question everyone should be asking is, why was a Snap Back or
Opt-Out provision incorporated into the SSA if they truly believe
everyone is going to make more money with the Bonus program then with
wage increases. 

Danny Knorek even said he "Guarantees" you will make "more money"
this guarantee would make the Snap Back provision unnecessary. 

The fact is, they are not really that sure it will be better, that's
why this life boat provision was added.

The problem is that you won't likely get two GC's to agree to undo a
provision that in the end proved to benefit CSX more than the
membership. The GCA is apparently aware that CSX wants this SSA more
than the members. That’s why you have heard scare tactics from the GCA
and their operatives stating that CSX will take us to Arbitration and
force it on us. 

Why would CSX force us to take something that is good for us and bad
for them? 

Is it more likely that CSX would force us to take something that is
good for CSX and bad for us? 

CSX wouldn't do that to us would they? 

The General Committees, Paul Sorrow, and their operatives have
dedicated their efforts to make sure it ratifies no matter what they
need to tell the membership to sell it. 

The magical mystery tour and their entourage will be on the move again
and members attending these meetings should press for honest answers to
their questions. These questions should be posed to the officers who
were directly responsible for agreeing to the language contained in the
agreement. The reason for going to these meetings is to hear it directly
from the horses' mouths, Finamore, Knorek, Tony, Donny, and Paul Sorrow
for his lead role, Paul helped negotiate the SSA from start to finish
and approved this final draft for ratification and deserves special
mention for his efforts in producing this agreement. 

Don't accept answers and interpretations from FELA Firm
representatives and other folks that had nothing to do with negotiating
this agreement and won't be held accountable for misrepresenting its
contents. 

Most of all remember, A Good Agreement Sells Itself! 

Fraternally, 

 Hoffmaster

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 March 2007

Hey Murray:

Only problem is at the time of my posting(s), I wasn't an employee of
CSX and they had absolutely nothing to do with the matter at hand!

Why the Neutral would even consider them is beyond me. The mere fact
that he cites them is prejudicial and taints his decision. Perhaps he
is trying to establish case law.

Only time and the Federal Courts will tell!

As for moving on...too much work to do here, I hate leaving a job half
done.

I have to go get ready for Ward's dog and pony show, I can certainly
use a good laugh!

             https://events.jpmorgan.com/

Oh, by the way Melvin...you just posted on this site using your name
and probably a company computer, now go back to Flomaton and figure out
how you are going to explain that. DUMB SHIT!

Have an ethical CSX day...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 March 2007

Gillerlain,
 You should haver signed the waiver..what a dumb shit!  Using your real
name(dumb shit)in your postings from this website were helpful in the
carrier's summation/brief to the neutral. I have read the 17 page
decision, you got what was coming to you.

Let this be a lesson to you kiddies...don't use your real name or use
information specific enough to identify you.  Since this is a public
forum, we as employees of CSX come under the employee conduct section,
conduct unbecoming and all that.

Again NoMo you are truely No More...time for you to move on.

Your Buddy Melvin.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 March 2007

Don Moates, General Chairman

Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen

CSXT - Western Railroad Lines


(423) 263-0909




Thomas A. Pontolillo

Director of Regulatory Affairs

Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen

Standard Building Mezzanine

1370 Ontario Street

Cleveland, Ohio  44113-1702

CLE direct:  (216) 377-3503

DC direct:  (202) 624-8748

FAX direct:  (216) 694-0255

E-Mail:  pontolillo@ble-t.org



send them you questions 
ask them why this new SSA must be voted on before the national is
released

Name: NoMo
E-mail: NoMo@CSX-Sucks.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 March 2007

Well my Brothers and Sisters, after 4 months the Neutral finally
rendered his decision...and it ain't good, for me. But the Opera
ain't over until the fat lady sings.

I will spare you all 17 pages of his ramblings because the first page
and a half pretty well set the tone for his decision. Anyone who would
like the entire award, e-mail me at the above address and I will be
more than glad to forward it to you.

Watch you backs and stay out of my way because I have work to do!


Case No. 555 NMB No. 555

SPECIAL BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT NO. 955 AWARD NO. 555

CSX TRANSPORTATION INC.
VS.
UNITED TRANSPORTATION UNION

STATEMENT OF CLAIM:      The discipline assessed Mr. [W.] Gillerlain
was far too harsh and excessive. It is the opinion of the Organization
that Mr. Gillerlain did not violate any rules. Mr. Gillerlain has been
an exemplary employee for 4-1/2 years and should be returned to service
immediately.

He should be paid for all time lost, including time attending the
investigation. All lost benefits should be restored, and any and all
notations removed from his personal record accordingly.

STATEMENT OF FACTS: William Gillerlain (hereinafter
Gillerlain/claimant) entered the carrier's service on May 13,2001.
Notwithstanding the resourceful (contra) arguments of his (sic)
counsel, claimant's historical performance record since such
employment date
 
SBA No. 955 Award No. 555 Page No. 2

appears only marginal at best, Furthermore, this Board takes arbitral
notice that Gillerlain has often exhibited his electronic and literary
skills by repeatedly attacking both the policies and the practices of
essentially all management levels within CSX. While such mordant
expressions could be argued to be constitutionally protected acts of
free speech, they do reveal some insight into this individual's
mindset and his willingness to do those things that are commonly
required of a subordinate.

Name: jj rawling
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 March 2007

So its about 11:30 on a Wednesday night when we're driving around.  We
are in search of ice becauase people needed ice.  As we persuded are
quest we got a craving for a slerpy.  We rushed to a sevenn eleven to
fuffill our appetite.  We walk in to the station and it is the
sketchiest seven eleven I've ever seen.  The lights were flashing on
and off just like they were in Saw III.  The floor was discusting and
in deep need of matenance, it was a nice white tiled floor, the only
problem is it was covered with black dirt, gunk, and trash.  I saw a
crushed slurpy cup on the ground with my own eyes, I swear.  Jt, a
friend of mine who is about 6 foot 1, has a big neck and was probaly
whereing a polo.  He goes inside and exclaims, "oh good they have
ice."  As he says this a man walks past him whom Jt wasn't talking to
at all and goes "Man! Man, I don't know, Man i don't work here, I
don't know man!"  We walk away from this when another kid i'm with
gets a starbucks coffee out of the refridgerator that's a double shot,
the lady at the desk says he can't get that. To be continued.........

Name: BottleNecjk
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 March 2007

Check This out
All Local Chairpersons:Initially, let me say that I am not commenting
one way or the other on the
proposed BLE System Agreement. Their Chairmen negotiated such, and the
decision of its ratification is to their Membership.

However, a few issues within the Agreement have surfaced, namely: (1)
the
> >methodology of "how" employees are selected for engine service,
(2) the
> >training of engineers; and (3) the scope rule as it relates to
remote
> >control.
> >
> >With respect to the first two issues, the items are under the
jurisdiction
> >of this General Committee. At this time, I will not make any
further
> >comment.
> >
> >With respect to the 3rd item, it is my understanding that some
individuals
> >are stating that if the Agreement is ratified, RCO road jobs will
belong to
> >the BLE.
> >
> >That alleged statement is incorrect.
> >
> >In that vein, I direct your attention to the 2002 UTU National
Agreement
> >governing Remote Control Operations reading:
> >
> > "This Agreement, made this 20th day of August, 2002, by and 
> >between
> >each of the Carriers listed in exhibit A attached hereto and made a
part
> >hereof, and the employees of such Carriers shown thereon and
represented by
> >the United Transportation Union, regarding each such carrier's
> >implementation and utilization of remote control technology for
assignments
> >including, but not limited to, yard engines, road switchers, locals
and
> >other comparable assignments, witnesseth:"
> >
> >CSX Transportation is listed in Exhibit A as denoted in the
foregoing rule.
> >
> >The rule grants remote control operations covering yard engines,
road
> >switchers, locals and similar assignments to the
> >jurisdiction of the UTU. As information, we currently have several
road
> >operations (road switchers) that use remote control technology.
> >
> >The proposed (BLE) scope rule reads (in part pertinent): ".and
where not
> >in conflict with any existing agreement."
> >
> >Since there is a conflicting agreement that gives remote control
technology
> >to the UTU, the scope rule, with respect to remote control for the
BLE is
> >not applicable.
> >
> >Fraternally,
> >
> >John E. Lesniewski
> >General Chairperson - UTU (B&O System)
> >
Give this mobster a call with all your questions 
Don Moates, General Chairman

Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen

CSXT - Western Railroad Lines


(423) 263-0909

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 March 2007

Another dummy who post long lenghty shit under every catagory instead of
putting it under the one it belongs.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 March 2007

Rumor has it that a manager on the AP is behind layoffs

APKY----15
APBR----18
APCV----4

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 March 2007

INSIDER TRANSACTIONS REPORTED - LAST TWO YEARS 
Date Insider Shares Type Transaction Value* 
14-Mar-07 INGRAM TONY L
Officer 3,167 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $36.58 per share.
$115,848 
14-Feb-07 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 87,666 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 - $19.8 per share. N/A

14-Feb-07 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 87,666 Direct Sale at $42.01 per share. $3,682,848 
14-Feb-07 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 3,888 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 per share. $62,480 
14-Feb-07 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 3,888 Direct Sale at $40 per share. $155,520 
13-Feb-07 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 3,932 Direct Option Exercise at $19.07 per share. $74,983 
13-Feb-07 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 3,932 Direct Sale at $38 per share. $149,416 
9-Feb-07 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 19,900 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $0 per share.
N/A 
2-Feb-07 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Option Exercise at $28.50 per share. $2,850,000

2-Feb-07 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Sale at $37.90 per share. $3,790,000 
22-Dec-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 3,758 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $34.28 per share.
$128,824 
15-Dec-06 HALVERSON STEVEN T
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 KUNISCH ROBERT D
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 RATCLIFFE DAVID M
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 MORCOTT SOUTHWOOD J
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 RICHARDSON WILLIAM C
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 KELLY EDWARD J III
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 BAILEY ELIZABETH E
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 ALVARADO DONNA M
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 ROYAL FRANK S
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
26-Oct-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Option Exercise at $28.50 per share. $2,850,000

26-Oct-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Sale at $37.28 per share. $3,728,000 
25-Oct-06 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 19,064 Direct Option Exercise at $20.89 - $23.28 per share.
$421,0002 
25-Oct-06 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 19,064 Direct Sale at $37.50 per share. $714,900 
25-Oct-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 33,334 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 per share. $535,677 
25-Oct-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 33,334 Direct Sale at $37.53 per share. $1,251,025 
25-Oct-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 10,622 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 - $19.8 per share. N/A

25-Oct-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 10,622 Direct Sale at $37 - $38 per share. $398,0002 
25-Oct-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Option Exercise at $23.28 per share. $2,328,000

25-Oct-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Sale at $36.83 per share. $3,683,000 
18-Oct-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 10,626 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 - $19.8 per share. N/A

18-Oct-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 10,626 Direct Sale at $36.13 - $36.5 per share. $386,0002 
16-Oct-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 2,800 Direct Option Exercise at $19.80 per share. $55,440 
16-Oct-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 2,800 Direct Sale at $35 per share. $98,000 
5-Oct-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 19,666 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 per share. $316,032 
5-Oct-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 19,666 Direct Sale at $34 per share. $668,644 
29-Sep-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 13,668 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 per share. $219,644 
29-Sep-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 13,668 Direct Sale at $33 per share. $451,044 
27-Sep-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 235,000 Direct Sale at $32.58 per share. $7,656,300 
27-Sep-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 235,000 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 per share. $3,776,450

15-Sep-06 RATCLIFFE DAVID M
Director 370 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $32.05 per
share. $11,858 
15-Sep-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 25,000 Direct Sale at $32.65 per share. $816,250 
15-Sep-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 25,000 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 per share. $401,750 
15-Sep-06 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 370 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $32.05 per
share. $11,858 
15-Sep-06 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 292 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $32.05 per
share. $9,358 
15-Sep-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 5,332 Direct Sale at $32.65 per share. $174,089 
15-Sep-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 5,332 Direct Option Exercise at $20.89 per share. $111,385 
13-Sep-06 ALVARADO DONNA M
Director 410 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $30.47 per share.
$12,492 
13-Sep-06 HALVERSON STEVEN T
Director 410 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $30.47 per
share. $12,492 
15-Jun-06 RATCLIFFE DAVID M
Director 186 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $63.59 per
share. $11,827 
15-Jun-06 RICE CHALES E
Director 147 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $63.59 per
share. $9,347 
15-Jun-06 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 186 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $63.59 per
share. $11,827 
15-Jun-06 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 147 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $63.59 per
share. $9,347 
17-May-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 7,666 Direct Automatic Sale at $70.50 per share. $540,453 
17-May-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 7,666 Direct Option Exercise at $39.60 per share. $303,573 
8-May-06 ROYAL FRANK S
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.97 per
share. $37,472 
8-May-06 BAILEY ELIZABETH E
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.97 per
share. $37,472 
8-May-06 KELLY EDWARD J III
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.97 per
share. $37,472 
8-May-06 RICHARDSON WILLIAM C
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.97 per
share. $37,472 
8-May-06 MORCOTT SOUTHWOOD J
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.97 per
share. $37,472 
8-May-06 RATCLIFFE DAVID M
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.97 per
share. $37,472 
8-May-06 RICE CHALES E
Director 220 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.97 per
share. $15,613 
8-May-06 RICE CHALES E
Director 220 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.97 per
share. $15,613 
8-May-06 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.97 per
share. $37,472 
8-May-06 MUNOZ OSCAR
Officer 1,823 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $73.73 per share.
$134,409 
8-May-06 KUNISCH ROBERT D
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.97 per
share. $37,472 
8-May-06 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.97 per
share. $37,472 
25-Apr-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 133,334 Direct Sale at $67.07 per share. $8,942,711 
25-Apr-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 133,334 Direct Option Exercise at $38.14 per share. $5,085,358

17-Apr-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 1,200 Direct Automatic Sale at $64.70 per share. $77,640 
17-Apr-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 1,200 Direct Option Exercise at $46.56 per share. $55,872 
17-Apr-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 666 Direct Sale at $64.70 per share. $43,090 
17-Apr-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 666 Direct Option Exercise at $46.56 per share. $31,008 
30-Mar-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 5,000 Direct Automatic Sale at $60 per share. $300,000 
30-Mar-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 5,000 Direct Option Exercise at $44.81 per share. $224,050 
30-Mar-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 14,587 Direct Automatic Sale at $60 per share. $875,220 
30-Mar-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 14,587 Direct Option Exercise at $38.14 - $44.81 per share.
$605,0002 
15-Mar-06 RATCLIFFE DAVID M
Director 160 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $58.45 per
share. $9,352 
15-Mar-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 21,600 Direct Sale at $57.15 per share. $1,234,440 
15-Mar-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 21,600 Direct Option Exercise at $51.44 per share. $1,111,104 
15-Mar-06 RICE CHALES E
Director 182 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $58.45 per
share. $10,637 
15-Mar-06 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 203 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $58.45 per
share. $11,865 
15-Mar-06 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 160 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $58.45 per
share. $9,352 
14-Mar-06 INGRAM TONY L
Officer 1,823 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $56.28 per share.
$102,598 
27-Feb-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 48,635 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $55.27 per
share. $2,688,056 
24-Feb-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 14,804 Indirect Disposition (Non Open Market) at $54.36 per
share. $804,745 
22-Feb-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 3,500 Direct Automatic Sale at $55 per share. $192,500 
22-Feb-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 3,500 Direct Option Exercise at $51.44 per share. $180,040 
15-Feb-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 10,000 Direct Sale at $54 per share. $540,000 
15-Feb-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 10,000 Direct Option Exercise at $38.14 per share. $381,400 
13-Feb-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 60,143 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $52.18 per
share. $3,138,261 
31-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 16,748 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market)  N/A 
31-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 16,748 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market)  N/A 
30-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 54,785 Direct Sale at $54.12 per share. $2,964,964 
30-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 54,785 Direct Option Exercise at $25.28 - $51.44 per share. N/A

27-Jan-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 269,712 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $50.79 - $51.99
per share. $13,860,0002 
27-Jan-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 47,638 Direct Sale at $53.74 per share. $2,560,066 
27-Jan-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 159,214 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $50.79 - $51.99
per share. $8,182,0002 
27-Jan-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 62,858 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market)  N/A 
27-Jan-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 6,000 Direct Sale at $53.62 per share. $321,720 
27-Jan-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 7,740 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $50.79 per
share. $393,114 
27-Jan-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 271 Indirect Sale at $50.79 per share. $13,764 
27-Jan-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 6,000 Direct Option Exercise at $25.28 per share. $151,680 
27-Jan-06 MUNOZ OSCAR
Officer 70,110 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $50.79 per
share. $3,560,886 
27-Jan-06 MUNOZ OSCAR
Officer 23,642 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $50.79 per
share. $1,200,777 
27-Jan-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 24,001 Direct Sale at $53.60 per share. $1,286,453 
27-Jan-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 23,370 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $50.79 per
share. $1,186,962 
27-Jan-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 554 Indirect Sale at $50.79 per share. $28,137 
27-Jan-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 24,001 Direct Option Exercise at $38.14 - $39.6 per share.
$933,0002 
27-Jan-06 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 70,110 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $50.79 per
share. $3,560,886 
27-Jan-06 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 35,046 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $50.79 per
share. $1,779,986 
27-Jan-06 INGRAM TONY L
Officer 70,110 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $50.79 per
share. $3,560,886 
27-Jan-06 INGRAM TONY L
Officer 1,471 Indirect Disposition (Non Open Market) at $50.79 per
share. $74,712 
27-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 23,370 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $50.79 per
share. $1,186,962 
27-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 6,621 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $50.79 per share.
$336,280 
26-Jan-06 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 3,000 Direct Automatic Sale at $54 per share. $162,000 
26-Jan-06 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 3,000 Direct Option Exercise at $51.44 per share. $154,320 
24-Jan-06 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 3,000 Direct Automatic Sale at $53 per share. $159,000 
24-Jan-06 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 3,000 Direct Option Exercise at $51.44 per share. $154,320 
19-Jan-06 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 36,268 Direct Automatic Sale at $52 per share. $1,885,936 
19-Jan-06 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 36,268 Direct Option Exercise at $41.78 - $51.44 per share. N/A

22-Dec-05 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 20,620 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $50.43 per
share. $1,039,866 
21-Dec-05 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 2,299 Direct Automatic Sale at $50 per share. $114,950 
21-Dec-05 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 2,400 Direct Option Exercise at $46.56 per share. $111,744 
15-Dec-05 RICE CHALES E
Director 216 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.19 per
share. $10,625 
15-Dec-05 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 191 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.19 per
share. $9,395 
15-Dec-05 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 191 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.19 per
share. $9,395 
14-Dec-05 ROYAL FRANK S
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 BAILEY ELIZABETH E
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 KELLY EDWARD J III
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 RICHARDSON WILLIAM C
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 MORCOTT SOUTHWOOD J
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 RATCLIFFE DAVID M
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 RATCLIFFE DAVID M
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 RICE CHALES E
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 KUNISCH ROBERT D
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
3-Nov-05 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 42,460 Direct Sale at $46.85 per share. $1,989,251 
3-Nov-05 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 42,460 Direct Option Exercise at $21.25 per share. $902,275 
4-Oct-05 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 25,000 Direct Automatic Sale at $38.14 - $39.6 per share.
$972,0002 
4-Oct-05 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 25,000 Direct Option Exercise at $38.14 - $39.6 per share.
$972,0002 
3-Oct-05 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 12,667 Direct Automatic Sale at $39.60 per share. $501,613 
3-Oct-05 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 12,667 Direct Option Exercise at $39.60 per share. $501,613 
29-Sep-05 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 22,843 Direct Automatic Sale at $45.50 per share. $1,039,356 
29-Sep-05 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 22,843 Direct Option Exercise at $25.28 per share. $577,471 
15-Sep-05 RICE CHALES E
Director 239 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $44.37 per
share. $10,604 
15-Sep-05 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 211 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $44.37 per
share. $9,362 
15-Sep-05 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 211 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $44.37 per
share. $9,362 
12-Sep-05 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 5,403 Direct Automatic Sale at $45.28 per share. $244,647 
12-Sep-05 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 7,500 Direct Option Exercise at $25.28 per share. $189,600 
17-Jun-05 RICE CHALES E
Director 249 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $42.61 per
share. $10,609 
17-Jun-05 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 220 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $42.61 per
share. $9,374 
17-Jun-05 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 220 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $42.61 per
share. $9,374 
24-May-05 MUNOZ OSCAR
Officer 1,323 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $41.49 per share.
$54,891 
24-May-05 INGRAM TONY L
Officer 1,250 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $42.66 per share.
$53,324 
17-May-05 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 535 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.92 per
share. $21,892 
5-May-05 ROYAL FRANK S
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.92 per
share. $37,523 
5-May-05 BAILEY ELIZABETH E
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.92 per
share. $37,523 
5-May-05 KELLY EDWARD J III
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.92 per
share. $37,523 
5-May-05 RICHARDSON WILLIAM C
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.92 per
share. $37,523 
5-May-05 MORCOTT SOUTHWOOD J
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.92 per
share. $37,523 
5-May-05 RATCLIFFE DAVID M
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.92 per
share. $37,523 
5-May-05 BURRUS ROBERT L JR
Director 382 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.92 per
share. $15,631 
5-May-05 RICE CHALES E
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.92 per
share. $37,523 
5-May-05 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.92 per
share. $37,523 
5-May-05 KUNISCH ROBERT D
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.92 per
share. $37,523 
 
 
Data provided by EDGAR Online 
* = Where indicated, some values are estimates.
1 = Potential proceeds estimated by the filer.
2 = Estimated based on the average of multiple prices reported.
3 = Multiple dates reported. Most recent date shown.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 March 2007

Hoffmaster is a smart ass and a dumb ass. He supported Meneffe and now
says he will defend the other GC's no matter what. There comes a time
to take a stand for what is right.

Hoffmaster has many of his "FACTS" wrong. I've been paying union
dues for years. This SSA set on the burner 11 years. Now it is hot as a
firecracker over night. It has to be voted in just before the national
comes out. Why? Does CSX and the BLE think we are dumb asses. Do they
think everyone is like Hoffmaster?

Why were the members not asked what we wanted in a single system
agreement. Why weren't we asked if we wanted salary tied to the
agreement, since salary wasn't suppose to be in the agreement to begin
with. There are loop holes in the SSA that you could float a battle ship
through.

4 out of 5 of Hoffmasters last statements are not true. They are his
interpretations of the agreement. I am letting it go to the national
and voting no. Each local better have someone on hand when the ballots
are counted to keep them honest.

Name: Blue Ridge
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 March 2007

Thats right the 7,000 paid our dues as far as im concerned

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 March 2007

The head of the Federal Railroad Administration said Monday that recent
derailments of CSX Corp. trains in New York have raised "real and
serious questions" about the company's safety programs and ordered an
immediate inspection of 1,300 miles of railroad tracks.
ADVERTISEMENT
 
 
The FRA on Monday started a two-day inspection of the tracks by a
special computer equipped rail car one week after an 80-car freight
train partly derailed in Oneida.

At least five tanker cars -- two carrying liquid propane, two loaded
with liquid petroleum and one containing the solvent toluene -- caught
fire or exploded in the wreck, forcing the evacuation of thousands of
residents.

The statewide inspection had been scheduled to take place next month,
but was moved up at FRA Administrator Joseph Boardman's order. The car
will measure whether track rails are level and if the width between them
is safe. Another inspection next month will check for track weaknesses
such as faulty cross-ties or poor connections between the cross-ties
and tracks.

The FRA will assess the CSX rail inspection program, first in New York,
and then in the rest of its 22,000-mile rail network covering 23 states,
the District of Columbia, and two Canadian provinces. The company holds
primary responsibility for making sure its tracks are safe.

A spokesman for Jacksonville, Fla.-based CSX did not immediately return
a call for comment.

Boardman wants to know what criteria the railroad uses to determine how
frequently it inspects its own tracks, if track improvement decisions
are made differently for lines carrying hazardous material and how the
company uses technology to find and fix flaws.

In January, a broken rail in East Rochester caused another CSX train to
derail, sending freight cars toppling from an overpass and onto front
yards.

The FRA in January said it would investigate the safety of railroad
overpasses in Erie and Chautauqua Counties following two derailments in
as many days in December.

The accidents "have caused lots of disruption and severely taxed the
resources of local emergency responders," said Boardman, a former New
York state Department of Transportation commissioner.

Name: WOLFEHATER
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 March 2007

LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER 20-30 YEARS WHILE YOU WORK THAT EXTRA YEAR DO YOU
MIND IF I FUCK YOUR WIFE WHILE YOU WORK !!!!!!!!

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 March 2007

Illinois CSX derailment sends kids home 
Five railroad tanker cars carrying hazardous phosphoric acid derailed
early Friday in Alsip, Ill., leaving the cars on their sides and
causing nearby schools and a few businesses to close, according to this
report by Kristen Schorsch published by The Daily Southtown. 
The cars were part of a 112-car CSX train that had left Chicago and was
bound for Ottawa, Ill., when the derailment occurred about 3 a.m. in an
industrial park near 128th Street and Homan Avenue, CSX spokesman Gary
Sease said. The chemical did not leak, and no one was injured, he said.


Each of the five tanker cars was carrying nearly 15,000 gallons of
phosphoric acid, which is used as an additive in animal feed, Sease
said. An empty sixth car also left the tracks, he said. 

As a precaution, nearby George Washington Elementary School in Alsip
and Horace Mann Early Childhood Center in Robbins closed Friday, and
Eisenhower High School in Blue Island let students leave early. 

Eisenhower senior Itzel Gonzalez, shivering in her green coat as she
waited for a ride in front of the school, said school let out a period
before her lunch hour. She said school officials told students there
didn't seem to be any danger from the derailment but that a chemical
leak could "start hurting us or something." 

George Washington, which serves about 200 children in kindergarten
through fifth grade, sent its students to Veterans Memorial Middle
School in Blue Island, where they were entertained with special
presentations and activities in the school's auditorium and gym, Cook
County District 130 Supt. Michael Korsak said. 

"We made the best of the situation," he said. 

Korsak said Alsip fire officials told him about 7 a.m. Friday they
wanted to close George Washington as a precaution. Because many
students were on their way to school, District 130 rerouted buses to
Veterans Memorial and posted signs to notify parents. 

The district also evacuated Horace Mann, which serves about 50
preschool students, to Lincoln Elementary School in Blue Island. 

A landscaping business, an auto repair shop and a recycling plant also
were evacuated as a precaution, Sease said. 

JLM Chemicals Inc. didn't close but was behind schedule Friday because
it depends on the rail line to make and ship its products, plant manager
William J. Moffatt said. The plant makes phenol and acetone, which are
used in things such as throat lozenges and nail polish remover. 

The railroad tracks hug the east side of the plant. The train derailed
a few blocks north. 

"The main effect on us is we can't get railway service," Moffatt
said Friday. "They told me it would take 40 hours to clear the
derailment." 

Sease said CSX was investigating the cause of the derailment and it
"could take a couple of days to a couple of months depending on how
obvious some of the evidence is." 

The five tanker cars had to be emptied and hauled from the scene. 

(The preceding report by Kristen Schorsch was published by The Daily
Southtown on Saturday, March 17, 2007.)

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 March 2007

CEO OF NS WAS ASKED IN A INTERVEIW IF HIS BIGGEST COMPETITOR WAS SITTING
NEXT TO HIM WHAT WOULD THEY TALK ABOUT? HE ANSWERE THAT THEY WOULD TALK
MORE ABOUT HOIW THEY COULD WORK TOGATHER.

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 March 2007

Possibility after reuters newbreak friday of a possible merger or
takeover of csx could it be possible that somethings going on between
ns and csx. 
Norfolk Southern Corporation (NYSE: NSC) today announced that its board
of directors has authorized the repurchase of up to 50 million shares of
its common stock through the end of 2015.

Timing and volume of any purchases will be guided by management’s
assessment of market conditions and other factors.  Any share
repurchases under this program may be made in the open market, or
otherwise.   
Norfolk Southern had approximately 406.4 million publicly held shares
as of Sept. 30, 2005. 

Any statements contained in this news release which are not related to
historical facts are forward-looking statements as that term is defined
in the Private Securities Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking
statements are subject to risks and uncertainties (noted in the
corporation’s filings with the SEC) which could cause actual results to
differ.  

Norfolk Southern Corporation is one of the nation’s premier
transportation companies. Its Norfolk Southern Railway subsidiary
operates approximately 21,300 route miles in 22 states, the District of
Columbia and Ontario, Canada, serving every major container port in the
eastern United States and providing superior connections to western
rail carriers. Norfolk Southern operates the most extensive intermodal
network in the East and is North America’s largest rail carrier of
automotive parts and finished vehicles.

###

For further information contact:
(Media) Bob Fort, 757-629-2710, (rcfort@nscorp.com)
(Investors) Leanne Marilley, 757-629-2861, (leanne.marilley@nscorp.com)

Name: ht long
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 March 2007

why does everyone post their message on each and every board? maybe the
youngins dont understand the categories listed? and one shouldnt post
under all of them or maybe we should just have one category i guess its
about not wanting to follow the rules?

and when i was furloughed the economy was so bad,micky d's wasnt an
option (unless you had a connection) i had to work mopping hot tar on
roof's, not a fun job standing on top of a building the size of 4
football field's slopping hot tar on a 98 degree day right next to the
B&O rr. main line !
you do what you have to do and crying doesnt help!
 there is not debtors prison i found this out while i was furloughed!

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 March 2007

HEY, you didn't have to pay the 4500 either, or the 2000. You elected
to. There are railroads hiring that you don't have to pay for school.
It was your choice to pay. Suck it up you whinny bitch and get over it
or shut the &^&* up. One of the problems with new guys is you aren't
willing to pay your dues and want to start at the top. You want to
blame old heads for your problems and they have nothing to do with
them. We went through lay offs and hard times also. Now get off your
ass and get a job somewhere until you get some seniority, just like we
did. We went through 30 years of the railroad not hiring and trying to
get a little seniority. No guaranteed extra boards either. When we
hired it was many years before you went up a little in seniority.

Name: wolfehater
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 March 2007

all i ever hear from the od heads is that us new guys got it made and
that they have been through the same furlough shit we have i say thats
bullshit old heads didnt have to pay 4500 dollars to go to school and
another 2000 dollars for a damn motel while in school and still pay
bills at home while going to school all the old heads had to do is use
the ink out of the pen they used to fill out the application.now they
wanna hang around and still work after they turn 60+ years old damn if
you still have to work after you 60 to pay bills then guess what you
will never have anything paid off.shit when i get 60 and i dont have
the things that i have paid off well i guess i want have those things
very long cause i dont wanna work my whole damn life out here in this
bullshit ass place 


why dont you old fuckers go on and draw your damn retirement and get
the hell out the way let us new guys make some money 


I SAY FUCK OLD HEADS AND FUCK CSX!!!!!!!!!

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 March 2007

Leaving the station: CSX may close Lincoln Street terminal
Published 01/30/2007 By SHARON CASKEY HAYES

 
KINGSPORT - CSX Transportation will likely close its Lincoln Street
intermodal terminal after losing its sole intermodal customer in
Kingsport.

CSX spokeswoman Meg Sacks said Tuesday the intermodal terminal only
serves Eastman Chemical Co. and ships two loaded trains a week from the
site.

However, Eastman recently notified CSX that it would no longer be using
the intermodal rail service.

Sacks said CSX has notified its six employees at the intermodal
terminal.

"We have been in touch with them about the possibility of the closure,
and we'll work with them concerning what their other employment options
may be," Sacks said.

CSX's main terminal in downtown Kingsport will not be impacted by the
decision.

Sacks said CSX will continue to serve Eastman in other ways, such as
hauling coal for the company's coal gasification processes.

She said there is no timeline for closing the Lincoln Street terminal.


"I would be reluctant to give one at this point simply because there
are so many things to work out," Sacks said.

Eastman spokeswoman Betty Payne said the company has traditionally used
the intermodal containers to ship products from Kingsport to ports in
Charleston and Savannah for export to other countries. 

But Eastman recently made the decision to start shipping those products
by truck instead. The company will transition from rail shipments to
truck shipments during the first quarter this year, Payne said.

"We will continue to use CSX for other things. The business decision
to start using truck versus rail only affects the product that's going
from here to the ports," Payne said.

The decision will increase truck traffic from Eastman by about 40
trucks per day, Payne said. That will add to the approximate 55,000
trucks going in and out of Eastman last year. 

"It will put more trucks on the road," Payne said. 

She didn't have information about what those additional trucks will be
transporting but said about 10 percent of Eastman's current shipments
from the plant are classified as hazardous materials.

"It's the same stuff we've always been sending out. It's just that
it's no longer going by rail. It's going by truck," Payne said.

She said Eastman will begin participating in a "repositioning
program" which will "actually allow Eastman to be more efficient in
its overall use of trucking."

Payne explained the repositioning program. She said that in traditional
truck shipments, products are loaded in containers at the port and sent
to a destination point. After unloading is complete, the empty
containers are hauled back to the ports for another load.

In the repositioning program, once a container is unloaded, another
company in the same region can request the container and fill it with
its export products for shipment back to the port.

"Under the repositioning program, companies up here in this area who
are needing an empty container to send something to port can get that
container and send it back to the port full," Payne said.

"So we plan to be doing that. We'll be collecting empty containers
that are up here and shipping some of our stuff back," she said.

Payne said the repositioning program will cut Eastman's overall
shipping costs.

"Because of the cost and our need to remain competitive, what we've
been doing isn't a good business option anymore, and that's why
we're making the change," Payne said.

Sacks said the terminal closure will not impact CSX's participation
with the Santa Train, an annual rail excursion coordinated by CSX and
the Kingsport Area Chamber of Commerce.

Name: McDs is callen
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Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 March 2007

dont send me back to slinging grease.  Vote No or i will be out of a job
 i'll stay awake wont sleep on the train no more. i wont act like i no
what is going on. i'll keep my opinion to myself, just vote no 
i dont want to go back to Mcdonalds i dont want to pump gas just vote
no  i dont want to make tacoes i dont want to wash dishes just vote no
i dont want to clean dishes for the Chinese restuarent just vot no i
dont want to wash cars i dont want to wait on people just vote no i
dont want to be laughed at i dont want to ask for a hand out from my
omigoes just vote no just vote no i paid to go to skoot dont have any
money jst vote no just vote no  i can barely red just vote no just vot
know i dont like rovert piness just vote no just vote no
say no way jose  not to day umbrey  just vote no i dont want to go but
if you dont vote no i will have to go just vote no just vote no

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 March 2007

M.E. Hoffmaster wants you to vote no for the SSA.
This man is a true Union Member.
Tony Ingram says he has never seen anyone like him.

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 March 2007

We have people in chemical plants making 37 per hour and working 8
months out of the year where I work. Their gross is way ahead of us
with their pay and incentives and off time. This contract sucks and
everyone knows it but Hoffmaster, 3 GC's and Ingram. What about the
Scope agreement? Does it out weigh the UTU's crew consist agreement?
Did not the carriers try to go after the crew consist agreement in the
Section 6 notice, then drop it only because they realized it wasn't
paramount at this particular time. The scope agreement will be done
away with or the crew consist will when the time is right. Which one
will it be? CSX and the BLE are playing us like a fiddle.
The are more outs for the company under this agreement than any I've
seen in 36 years. Why is the agreement so hot right now? I asked this
question the other day? Dormant for 11 years, or 7 after the Conrail
acquisition and now it has to be ratified in a month. Think about this
statement long and hard. There will be many job loses over this
contract. It will also mean you are giving the company leeway to decide
how much your bonus is. No standard formula for compensation is not a
good thing. I would also think that Brother Sorrow would have put a job
protection clause in for us if he wanted this contract passed. The scope
agreement is to easy to break. The GTW contact that Sorrow takes credit
for, but actually had nothing to do with , has a lifetime protection
clause for engineers or trainees once they become engineers. If you
fall under either catagory you are protected if you were there when the
contract was ratified. New engineers have to have 5 years and then they
fall under the agreement. OUR AGREEMENT SUCKS.

Name: Bottleneck
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 March 2007

Check this out NS En Posted this on the blet page     
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Go to the employee resource center and look under WHAT'S NEW. Engineer
and dispatcher bonus update. It seems the minimum we can do and still
make 100% of our bonus is $2.55 billion in pre-tax profit and an
operating ratio of 71.9% or less. To me another reason to get away from
the bonus system and go with wage increases. At some point there is no
more juice left in the orange no matter how hard or how much you
squeeze. I just can't see NS making record profits year after year.  


check it out for yourselves 

send the contract back to Ingram and his clowns

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 March 2007

Side Letter #123

Re: Ingram's Bid Machine


This refers to the discussions which led to the Sinle System Agreement
between CSXT and Blet date______________. It was agreed that the cost
of a move would be subject to a 25cent deduction on an engineer's pay.
If more than 2 moves by one engineer in a 6 month rolling period occurs.
He/she would have payroll deduction of the cost of the entire machine. 
This will not go to review by the Disputes Review Committee.
                                          Very truly yours
                       
                                                 Howie  Emich

Concur:____________
       R.A Dinamore 
       ____________
       D.L. Motes
       ____________
       T. Mith
       ____________
       ???????????
Approved:___________
          P.T. Soroooow

Name: BottleNeck
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 March 2007

Visit Ble members only area/Csx-sucks part 2

send the contract back to those sell outs  vote no

Name: vote no vote no
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 March 2007

What does Pine Needle, EN Hoffmaster,Tony Smith, Don Moates, R. Finamoe,
Don Hahs,Paul Sorrow, Tony Ingram, and Michael Ward have in common.

1. Narrow Minded
2. Separtist
3. Union Busters
4. Finger pointing
5. Low Down
6. Flag burning
7. Control Freaks
8. Waste of Space
9. all their names are mentioned on Csx-sucks

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 March 2007

That's right if this passes it will be based on the vote of the
post85er. Ya'll account for at least 80% of the certified engineers.
Make your vote count spread the word remind people to vote CSX and the
BLET GC's bank on at least 30% not sending in their ballots which
counts as a 'YES' vote.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 March 2007

I know some of you guys dont have much longer to work til you can
retire. Please think of the ones who still have 20 or more years ahead
of them when voting for this ssa agreement. Vote NO

Name: Post 85er
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 March 2007

There are many more "New Hire Post 85ers" than there are old heads. We
need to ALL VOTE NO on this SSA. We have to stand together on this
because this is going to hurt us down the road if it is implimented.
Don't look at the lump sum payment which is way less than backpay.
You'll never make it all the way to see the stock or DDO (try marking
off on this one!) And the freaking bonus plan is a damn joke! We can't
question our payments? What the fruck?


VOTE NO*****VOTE HELL NO!!!!!!! VOTE NO*****VOTE HELL NO!!!!!!!!

Name: GrEaSeD
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 March 2007

M E HOFFMASTER DIV 0284

Does anyone know this EN? Is he a company man?


Brothers how is this contract leaning in your div. 
Div 100 will most likely vote NO

Name: BottleNeck
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 March 2007

Rick Finamore, GC

BLET NRL GCA

(904) 543-8101

Give this guy a call with your complaints.  He says this is the best
contract were going to get. He is more than happy to take a risk with
your PAYCHECK.  He also said that he will not tolerate anyone
questioning the scope rule. Anyone who thinks its  a bad deal must be
for the UTU stealing our jobs or a communist. Suddenly its wrong to
question authority?  They don't care what our opinion is?  I thought
those sell outs worked for us. 

Without question all the higher ups in the blet are going to push this
SSA. Every email forwarded proves it and every union meeting attended
confirms it.  Were all grown Men don't let someone SCAre you or
persuade you into voting their way.  If you vote yes make sure its your
opinion your casting.  Not someones who doesn't care what you make or
what kind of life you have.  

The bid machine is going to have all kinds of effects on everyone. 
Some will work more. Some will make less.  Some will be laid off.  Some
will never be off a weekend again.  Some will not hold their current
job. 

CMC  this contract will affect you also.  You guys think there has been
job cuts now. If this goes through there are more on the way.

Next Christmas trains will run my friends
Next New Years trains will run my friends
Next Easter trains will run my friends
Next July 4th trains will run my friends
Next Memorial and labor day trains will run my friends
Next Thanksgiving trains  will run my friends
And we will all receive straight TIME 
We are loyal servants and we will do as were told

Name: salt
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 March 2007

What do you expect other than what we got in the ssa.

The mighty Blet didn't strike over REMOTES they take whats given to
them and roll over.  Blet GC hope that the carrier will throw them a
bone. Inturn you will get boned. Nothing changes pay your dues. Watch
your health care rise. Watch your paycheck remain lower than any other
class 1.  Get sick lay off recieve a letter for attendance.  


News release on the ble web page.  Cost of the new bid system that will
be in place will be passed on  to the membership.  Every job bidded on
will cost just 25cents. We feel this is more than fair and it is our
duty to take on some of the cost. Hey we are the ones using it. This
will place more cost on those  who Love to make moves.  You can have
this deducted out your paycheck (to receive a tax deduction) or you can
use a coin.  

This is more than fair and  I feel its our duty, said GC Moates
Those no good S.O.Bs will pay , stated Tony Ingram
Were suppose to be good servants, replied Loco EN Hoffmaster
I'm unaware of any problem, yawned Mike Ward

Name: BottleNeck
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 March 2007

that's  right, why wasn't the health and welfare covered.

anyone  voting for Ingram's brain child must be on the PipE 

the GCs really took us on this one

this year insead of the GCs getting a raise lets make it a bonus system
the membership votes on and it can't be disputed by anyone

better yet if we don't get our bonus they don't get theirs
its a risk I'm willing to put on them and I didn't even get paid off

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 March 2007

Remotes accessing the main lines on UP in Oregon. What has the BLE done?
Nothing. Scope agreement, HMMMMMMMMMMM. HARHARHAR

11 year old contract that said nothing about raises, I think I'll take
my chances and pass on this piece of garbage. Sorrow has not done a good
job on this one. Some thought he would because of the GTW agreement.
Sorrow didn't write that agreement, the company wanted it and got it.
It was a copy cat agreement of the IC agreement. Our GC's and Sorrow
are trying to tie wages in this agreement when they were never suppose
to be there. Now why has the vote got to be in all of a sudden when it
was on the back burner for 11 years? It's a dead issue. Oh maybe the
full details of the national are coming out around the same time as we
have to vote on our sub standard deal. Yep, that's the ticket. Get it
in before they find out they were screwed. I have never seen such a
loosely worded agreement. Members need to get on the LCs and LCs need
to heed that the members are pissed. If not there will be many new
LC's that will put in new GC's. Back to the seats for all GC's if
they sell us out.

There should be a job protection agreement in the contract, just like
on the GTW and IC. Iron clad, no vague language. This is the most vague
agreement I have ever seen and will be fully exploited by the company
with the unions help. One question for each of you to think about. DOES
THE UNION HONOR WHAT WE WORK UNDER NOW? If not, do you think they will
honor a agreement that has a million loop holes in it?

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 March 2007

I still don't understand it.....Conrail was never this messed up.

Name: HTL
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 March 2007

IF THE BLE HAS WON ANY PL BOARD...YOU MUST BE DREAMING

Name: Steve Broady
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 March 2007

Is is not my understanding that the BLET won a PL Board award from CSX
about using demoted engineers in "emergency"? (we all know what an
"emergency" is; no rested engineers) Did the board not say that the
engineer so used was to be marked up for a minimum of one week or be
paid a week's pay therof?  

Did I read that on this list or am I dreaming?

Name: CEE
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 March 2007

Especially with all the other derailments and fatalities in the last 6
months.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 March 2007

Yeah...they just might have gone up in smoke!

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 March 2007

Hmmm. I wonder if all the recent derailments and the latest propane
explosion would effect our bonuses under the new contract?

Name: muster
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 March 2007

condutor for less than a year

If the ssa passes you stand a good chance not to ever come back

get yourself a trade being a condutor or engineer isn't a real skill

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 March 2007

GENERAL CHAIRMEN NEXT CONTRACT I SEE BEST NOT HAVE THE CHIEF OPERATING
OFFICER NAME ON IT YOU GUYS ARE ALL SELL OUTS I HOPE YOUR ENJOYING
YOUR
WEEKEND OFF ON THE BOAT THE MEMBERSHIP PAID FOR OR WAS IT  CSX
FINANCED

Finn, Moates stay in your office we don't want to see your sorry faces
after this we all know what side you two are on.  

We should have just sold out the conductor and we could have got some
pay raises.  I mean if we are anything like are GCs (they're sellouts)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 March 2007

Holxc

YOu have let me down.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 March 2007

Fourloughs still going strong up here in Erwin Tn ApBr. 16 to be exact.
They still call from time to time asking for a voleenteer. Yeh right,
dream on CSX. I notice they also have some engineers cut back to
Conductors. They seem to constantly be out of men. Dont call me crazy,
but I feel like they are trying to starve us out or something. Well I
found a job making 10 bucks an hour for now, but what am I suppose to
do the next time I get to mark up for three weeks just to be fourloughd
once again. JOBS are hard to find I guess Ill take my 5,000 dollar body
down to mcdonalds and work if theres any posistions available. You do
what you have to do. Im not crazy about our good UTU either. They could
do better. My theory is that since we are fourloughd they dont give a
crap because we arent paying dues. Just like the insurance cuts you off
after 4 months and your retirement doesnt count why should your UTU
memebership?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 March 2007

Hoffmaster says it is a good thing. The contract starts out with we
should be rewarded because we are the most experienced crew member,
Hoffmaster says.
That really mattered to CSX when the UTU took the remotes for 46
minutes extra. I saw what CSX thought of experience then and it hasn't
changed. Crunching the numbers shows we lose on a new SSA. Not only from
a money aspect but a quality of life issue as well.

Hoffmaster says CSX would be foolish to violate this agreement. That
does deserve a HARHARHAR. They have no intentions of living up to it,
just as in the past. There are to many loop holes. Why would a union
offer the members up for sacrifice? This contract doesn't even compare
with the parts of the National that are available. Why would they settle
for something sub-standard to the national? Where is the IBT that was
going to give the BLE the clout to bargain for a fair contract. I
won't pay another months dues if this thing goes through.
Put Sorrow and all the GCs out the door and start new if this is the
best they can do. Don't insult me any more with their bull shit
agreement.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 March 2007

Hoffmaster sucks. He can't even get his numbers and dates correct.
Listen to the young lady, her numbers are accurate. It's a bad deal
that is going to bite everyone in the ass. Theres no HARHARHAR in this
contract. Only a bunch of OH NO's, I can't believe I voted it in. Let
the GCs know we aren't standing for this BS. Let Sorrow know as well.
Put them back in the seat if they can't do better than this BS.

Name: No way
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 March 2007

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Pay cuts and job losses  Pay cuts and job losses Pay cuts and job
losses


we are smarter than they think  we are smarter than they think

vote no vote no vote no vote no vote no vote no vote no vote no voteno

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 March 2007

ALL ENGINEERS

VOTE NO TO THE NEW CONTRACT..THIS IS BULLSHIT THAT THEY WANT IS TO PUT
ARE ARMS AROUND AND EMBRACE!!!!!!  I WOULD RATHER TAKE MY CHANCES WITH
THE P.E.B THEN TO VOTE YES TO THIS TRIPE..AND SO SHOULD ALL OF YOU MY
FELLOW BROTHERS!!!!! CSX BLET UNION WENT OUTSIDE THE NATIONAL BARGINING
PROCESSE TO TRY AND GET US "A BETTER DEAL THEN THE NATIONAL
AGREEMENT"!!! BULLSHIT!!!! THIS DEAL FUCKING BLOWS!!! 

VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO!!!!!

Name: egg
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 March 2007

I just talked to the general chairman's office.

I was told they didn't care what the membership thought about the
ssa.
this was the new contract and to suck it up if everyone votes no it
will still pass because their company bonuses are tied into it.

Mike ward and Tony Ingram doesn't seem too bad when they're compared
to are GCs.  I bet we would get larger raises if csx didn't have to
pay off the union.  

I'm tired of paying near $1000.00 and seeing no results I say we
strike against the UNION.

Name: TCB
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 March 2007

Don Moates
BLET General Chairman 

This guy here says its a great contract. Where do these clowns come
from???????  I guess he plans on working for labor relations someday
soon.

Name: hardball
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 March 2007

russell, ky    hu-bs ca524

Name: hardball
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 March 2007

Yea htl, Ingram almost got hit headon, damit dove if you were going to
get fired, you shoulda took ingram out! Crew outta russell bound for
shelby got by signal @ ru cabin, dispatch instructed them quickly to
stop, engineer said he was looking @ the vip special, word has it that
ingram took their statement personally, la dove, ts tolliver and a
conductor named something kelly. I know 2 of these employees, good men
that need their jobs, hope they get back soon.

Name: someonewhonose 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 March 2007

To all my CSX bretheren pondering the current SSA, 
First, think before you leap into anything as far as a contract with
CSX. The SSA is designed to control your time on and off duty, the
mandatory days off, bid/bump system, penalty for taking off on ex.list
e.g. is designed to limit your abilities to do what YOU want to do with
your time. It is also designed to limit your income if you were one of
those people who slaved away and didn't utilize that bump time, or
optional day off on a pool or extra list. There were other options with
regards to days off, time off that were shown to the Carrier but
discarded because they didn't fit in the with Carriers picture of what
they wanted out of the workforce, and the workforce availability. THE
SSA has many good things in it, but take a look at what you must give
up to get those good things. Do the old pro and con and I think you'll
find the not so good outweighs the good. With the profits the Carrier is
making, as well as what we have had to give up because of "policies"
of this Carrier, why should you have to give up anything? Your being
asked to work more, and under this SSA you'll be contractually bound
to do so, for what? a better 401K, $15/.15, more HAFHT time (wow a
whole 'nother hour, ask the CN and CP guys how they do on HAFHT time
some are on continuous time after 12 !!), better meals away from home,
that's about it. The bonus program while it sounds nice, puts you
further behind the National wage scale for an if/come on what the
Carrier does. Many of you have worked for CSX a long time, it is well
run? Is it deserving of the profits they're making or do you feel
its' all just smoke and mirrors? The decision you make will affect
your pocketbook for many years to come. I know what my feelings are,
what are yours? Again, think before you vote on that SSA whether your
vote is yes or no, THINK long and hard, it is your future in wages and
working conditions that you are voting on.

Name: pARKING LOT  attendant
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 March 2007

ATICLE 1 RATES OF PAY  COLA'S ELIMINATED

ARTICLE 2 SIGNING BONUS  were not getting back pay 

ARTICLE 3 RATE PROGRESSION  what EN is not 90% or greater

ARTICLE 4 SPECIAL PAY DIFFERNTIAL  its about time 

ARTICLE 5 PERFECT ATTENDANCE STOCK AWARD - cross your fingers

ARTICLE 6 PERFORMANCE BONUS PROGRAM contract labor placing their life
in the company hands that we all came to TRUST SO   MUCH

ARTICLE 7 401K SAVINGS PLAN  good one about time but we have to wait
until 2008 

ARTICLE 8   EXPENSES AWAY FROM HOME  about time like we CAN EAT ON THAT
 THIS WAS A LONG TIME COMING

ARTICLE 9 HELD AWAY FROM TERMINAL  GOOD ABOUT TIME THIS WOULD HAVE MADE
ME AN EXTRA 650.00 IN 2006   

ARTICLE 10 DEMAND DAYS OFF  KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED 

ARTICLE 16 PERSONAL LEAVE  I'LL TAKE A COUPLE MORE DAYS OFF

ARTOCLE  18  SUMMARY OF THE VACATION AGREEMENT  A WAY TO GET THE OLDER
MEN TO VOTE YES AND SCREW EVERYONE ELSE
ARTICLE 23 ENGINEER INSTRUCTOR ALLOWANCE  NO CHANGE WHATS WITH THAT I
GUESS THERE ARE TOO MANY EN APPRENTICES
 ARTICLE 40 MARKING OFF  YOUR FIRED
ARTICLE 41 CLAIMING REST  THATS ARE RIGHT NOTHING GIVEN HERE

ARTICLE 60 SCOPE RULE  YA RIGHT = NOTHING  I DON'T WANT A REMOTE
BETWEEN TERMINALS FOR NOTHING

ARTICLE GUARANTEED EXTRA BOARD   HELLO  1/2 LOSS OF GUARANTEE WE
HAVEN'T INHALED THAT MUCH DIESEL FUMEN YET

GENERAL CHAIRMEN NEXT CONTRACT I SEE BEST NOT HAVE THE CHIEF OPERATING
OFFICER NAME ON IT YOU GUYS ARE ALL SELL OUTS I HOPE YOUR ENJOYING YOUR
WEEKEND OFF ON THE BOAT THE MEMBERSHIP PAID FOR OR WAS IT  CSX FINANCED

YOU GUYS CAN LOSE YOUR POSITIONS VERY QUICKLY BUT I GUESS YOU WOULD
JUST GO TO WORK FULL TIME FOR LABOR RELATIONS

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 March 2007

Will someone please tell me what is proposed on this new contract, I go
to every union meeting that I can and still no answers. I pay 86
dollars a month to a local that just gives us blank stares,and has a
really difficult time answering any contract related questions. Maybe
I'm out of line  by asking my union whats proposed on this next
contract.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 March 2007

Has anyone bothered to ask the union brass how pay got involved in this
agreement when it was not suppose to be? In addition to screwing anyone
that has 10 or more years left to work CSX and the union or going to
dick you on pay. Pay was never suppose to be an issue in the single
system agreement. If CSX and the union want to back out of negotiations
on the national level it should be under a separate contract. It should
also include job protection for current employees. Under the current BS
you will see a lot of flow back going on when the engineers boards are
cut.

Name: BottleNeck
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 March 2007

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 March 2007

CSX doeasnt honor what you have now. They won't honor the new contract
any better. Your screwed if you vote it in.

Name: hardball
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 March 2007

This contract is the result of a company friendly union, our best
interests are not represented. Please do not vote yes on this contract,
lets all wait for something better. We can wait a little longer. We need
to pull together(both crafts) and force these unions to honor their
bylaws, and if they cant, force them to a civil court, this process is
very easily done, just takes a little initiative. If i live till june,
Ill have my 30 in, Im really thinking for the interests of my fellow
brothers that Ill be leaving, its time for us to stand not against csx,
but our unions, csx only does what they are allowed to do.

Name: Stay in School 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 March 2007

Tony,

This job sucks and if I could I would quit.
We lose something every contract and we will never get it back.
The pay is going to be put on hold until 2010 if the new contract
passes and it will.  Health care is going to keep increasing. Tony stay
in school or go back.  Once you get out here for few years the company
owns you.  Also there are people laid off across the system. When this
contract is passed there will be even more conductors laid off.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 March 2007

How many times have I got to read the same thread?

Name: Ingram sucks
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 March 2007

This is a financial comparison of the SSA and the National Agreement.
The figures below are based on wages from 2006 after factoring in the
.62 per hour COLA giveback and adding the raises back in under both
agreements. Years 2010, 11, and 12 are based on the average National
Handling raises of 2.9% per year. Year 07 is figured by adding the 2.5,
3.0 and 3.0% raises for 05, 06 and 07 then subtracting the COLA
giveback.

National Handling 
Year Gross Pay % Raise $ Raise Difference SSA 
07 85,335.66 6.0 3,835.56 (3,749.75) 
08 89,930.36 4.0 3,458.86 ( 463.81) 
09 93,426.88 4.5 4,496.52 +1,722.99 
10 96,136.26 2.9 2,709.38 +3,123.15 
11 98,924.92 2.9 2,787.96 +4,602.60 
12 101,793.02 2.9 2,868.80 +6,816.09 
          
Single System Agreement 
07 89,085.41  .04 7,259.41 +3,749.75 
08 90,394.67 0 1,309.26 + 463.81 
09 91,703.89 0 1,309.22 (1,722.99) 
10 93,013.11 0 1,309.22 (3,123.15) 
11 94,322.32 0 1,309.21 (4,602.60) 
12 94,976.93 0 654.61 (6,816.09) 


The figures above include the $10.00 a trip EC pay and factoring in the
extra hour of held-away and making the .62 per hour COLA adjustment on
all hours worked including overtime. The SSA figures also include an 80
% payout on the bonus program.

Hourly Rate National Handling 
Year Road Day Yard Day Hour Road Hour Yard Overtime 
07 192.06 200.59 24.01 25.07 36.02 
08 199.74 208.61 24.97 26.08 37.46 
09 208.73 218.00 26.09 27.25 39.14 
10 214.78 224.32 26.85 28.04 40.28 
11 221.01 230.83 27.63 28.85 41.45 
12 227.42 237.52 28.43 29.69 42.64 
            
Hourly Rate SSA 
07 182.32 190.43 22.79 23.80 34.19 
08 182.32 190.43 22.79 23.80 34.19 
09 182.32 190.43 22.79 23.80 34.19 
10 182.32 190.43 22.79 23.80 34.19 
11 182.32 190.43 22.79 23.80 34.19 
12 182.32 190.43 22.79 23.80 34.19 

The above numbers are based on our current basic days minus the .62 per
hour COLA then factoring in the pay raises and the average pay raises
based on the currant proposed contracts.

The meal raise was not factored into this study. The bonus is capped
out in 2012 at 15%. A net result of that is a widening gap in pay by a
much larger margin.

The numbers below are figuring an average raise under SSA of .13% (THE
CURRENT AVERAGE) and a current average under national handling of 2.9%
with a net difference of 2.77%. CSX just annoused a buyback of 20
million shares of their common stock on the open market with a net
value of 2 billion dollars. This buy back will take place through 2008.
Only very financially strong companies do this so we are going to assume
that 100% of the bonus will be paid over the next ten years study after
the first contract and extension expire. A COLA take back was not
figured. This agreement could be so financially lucrative for the
carrier that they will not drag out the negotiations on the next
agreement.

YEAR RAISE NAT AMOUNT SSA DIFFERENCE 
13 2,819.66 104,612.68 97,904.21 6,708.47 
14 2,897.77 107,510.45 97,904.21 9,606.24 
15 2,978.04 110,488.48 97,904.21 12,584.27 
16 3,060.53 113,549.01 97,904.21 15,644.76 
17 3,145.31 116,694.31 97,904.21 18,790.10 
18 3,232.43 119,926.74 98,385.56 21,541.18 
19 3,321.97 123,248.71 98,385.56 24,863.15 
20 3,413.99 126,662.69 98,385.56 28,277.13 
21 3,508.56 130,171.24 98,385.56 31,785.56 
22 3,605.74 133,776.98 98,385.56 35,391.42 
     
TOTALS 31,984.00 1,184,641.20 981,448.85 (203,192.40) 

The windfall savings "profit" for the carrier is staggering to say
the least. I have not figured in the effect on railroad retirement this
is going to have on us. I have not even factored in the savings for the
carrier when they reduce the extra boards because they no longer have
to protect displacements. (They will disappear under this agreement in
article 82.) This will result in a net reduction of about 30% on the
current extra boards resulting in an approximate overall engineer
reduction of about 10% system wide. These figures are approximate and
are used to show the savings that the carrier will get as a result of
this agreement. The savings in wages over national handling over the
life of this agreement will be about 12.5 million dollars a year for
the carrier based on a starting engineer workforce of 5000 people. The
10% force reduction will result in a carrier savings of 35.5 million
dollars a year. This is a savings of 48 million dollars a year. Over
the total six year life of this agreement the savings will be 288
million dollars. If you figure the $2,500.00 signing bonus that we
received by the 5000 engineers done in this study our share of the
savings was 12.5 million dollars. 

This transfer of wealth will end up in the pockets of the elite top 1
or 2% of the management of this company. Why do you think they are
buying back the common stock? So they can reap the windfall profits as
a result of the wage savings, or more specifically on the backs of the
workers.

I was told there was money in this agreement if you worked. We will
have no choice. We are going to be working or fired. Most of the people
that I represent for attendance issues average over 50 hours a week
worked not including the time away from home. I don’t see any quality
of life in this. We get a demand day every 91 days if the needs of the
carrier will allow it. With the coming reduction in workforce we will
see as a result of this I don’t see very many of these days being
allowed. Days off will have to start at midnight to align with the
seven day bump rule. If you do anything in this day off you will have
to go to bed at 4:00 in the afternoon or be available for work
exhausted. The drop rule is a good idea but it is not going to add to
the quality of life. If you are first out and you don’t want to go to
work you have the option of screwing the man below you and dropping. At
least you only get to do this once a half.

Side letter 26 states “It was also understood the signing bonus
contemplated back pay for the period of July 1, 2005 through the
effective date of this agreement.” This is in direct conflict with
article 1 of the agreement.

Side letter 1 states that all medical conditions reported will be
subject to review by non-medical personnel and be based on the
employees previous work history. What does any work history have to do
with a current medical condition or any medical condition for that
matter?

Side letter 3 covers the electronic bid system. Why can’t we have the
option to have our vacations and personal days start at noon. This
would improve the quality of life by allowing us to utilize more of the
day off spending time with our families instead of sleeping.

Side letter 5 means nothing. Side letter 13 and article 32 will
decimate this letter.

Side letter 7 says we will still have to listen to the horns above the
cabs because the carrier will not spend the few dollars for parts to
put them on the long hood.

Side letter 9 is means nothing. We will give up almost all of the
guarantee pay under article 82 of the agreement. That is why the
guarantee buy out was slated for the article 32 jurisdiction.

Side letter 13 “The following is applicable to an engineer with at
least five (5) years of ENGINE SERVICE SENIORITY.” A clear record of
for the first 6 months will cancel one disciplinary entry in your
record. What about the people with four or five years as a conductor?
They will have to go nine or ten years before they drop a level in
discipline.

Side letter 14 Vacation Caps: The only way this would be beneficial is
if it said the local chairman and the local manager will meet and agree
on the caps for the specific terminal. What do you think will happen in
dispute resolution or arbitration?

Side letter 25 removes most of the pay raise in article 1. It does not
matter side letter 26 eliminates it entirely.

Side letter 28 gives us $0.10 per day raise in the code 19. Things are
starting to look up.

Article 3:This is a wash. All conductors are at least 85% when they go
to engine service. At least the current engineers not at 100% will be
advanced.

Article 4: the $10.00 raise in EC pay is a good thing. I submit there
is no over miles on trip rated jobs and the language is to vague to
contemplate otherwise (another article 32 hearing).

Article 5: As long as we don’t take a personal day or daily vacation
day on the weekend we will get 20 shares of stock.

Article 6: The performance bonus is a good thing, but the compounded
pay raises will far outstrip the earnings of this program. (See study
above.)

Article 7: The 401k match is another good thing.

Article 8: The expenses increase is another long overdue good thing.

Article 9: Held away starting after 15 hours is a good thing. Let’s put
that into perspective. I would have made an extra $731.81 last year. 

Article 32: This article I am not sure about. It seems to ad a step to
the process and I am not sure what if any benefit this will provide.

Article 35: this article is rendered mute by side letter #7.

Article 45: The drop day is alright, but if you miss your turn because
you use it will result in a loss of guarantee pay. Give me a break and
charge me for using it.

Article 60: This scope rule is totally useless worded the way it is
here. Outside existing terminal limits? What if they change the limits.
On what day. When not in conflict with any existing agreement. What if
the UTU come up with an existing agreement subsequent to this
agreement? This article has no teeth. Article 32 will be used to
override this article.

Article 68: Short turn around service is increased to 35 miles. What
did we get for this. Re-crews will be reduced by about 50%. This is a
big thing for the carrier.

Article 69: Will we be given a failure for not having it with us.

Article 82: Guaranteed extra boards. This is the biggest give back of
all. If you mark off on any weekend day you will lose half of your
guarantee pay. Any engineer claiming rest who worked less than 8 hours
will lose 1 day guarantee pay if he gets run around from Monday to
Thursday and will lose half of his guarantee pay if this happens on a
weekend. If you get run around twice you lose all of your guarantee
pay. Where is the quality of life in this? I don’t think this will
matter anyway. Because of my previously stipulated observations
guarantee pay will be all but eliminated along with the 500 plus or
minus positions we will lose on these boards.

There is some language in this agreement about pre 92 and pre 85
employees. I was under the impression that this agreement was going to
eliminate this stigma. There are a lot of good items in this agreement.
Do those items out weigh the pitfalls and lack of absolute language that
is necessary to prevent the constant negative interpretation of our
agreements by the carrier. 

We need to look past the first few pages of this document and make an
informed decision about what is going to affect the rest of our carrier
as well as our retirement. Please read this agreement and go to the town
hall meetings that our general committee has scheduled. Ask hard
questions and make an informed decision.

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Name: htl
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 March 2007

goober,
i always thought we were both on the right track,... but you just were
on the wrong train............

Name: CEE
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 March 2007

Those numbers have been updated with a lot of other information added
as of 3/8/07 (late this evening).

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 March 2007

To HTL:
You know that I never agree with anything that you say. That is just
standard procedure most times. However I see that now, I do agree. It
must be a miracle.
STOP PAYING THOSE FOOLS, Stop Payroll Deduction NOW. If you like last
month pay something. But for God's sake cut off the gravy train.

GOOFY

Name: Hop
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 March 2007

ya bottlneck

the system sucks and that proves it

Name: Muster
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 March 2007

Thanks BottleNeck
I believe everyone needs to read this. And if your still thinking about
voting for the System Agrement because of the scope rule remember that
does not cover Positive train control and does not conflict with
existing agrements with the UTU

If still going to vote yes for system you must be on Tony Ingram's
Christmas card list

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Name: h.t.long
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 March 2007

bottleneck,
i think that the reason to vote down the ssa is shown under your stats
of handling
the bottom line is in 2012 our hourly rate would be 29.69 with the
natl, and 23.80 with the ssa. which is what we are making today in 2007
the hourly is what matters! the rest of the "bonus" is like a dog
chasing his tail alot of maybes, 
the stock from what ive been told if you have sat/sun/off and they call
yu and you dont go ,you are unavailable and wont get the stock and the
stock goes into a 401k so you wont get any added income from it.  what
were the gen,chairman thinking!!!!
the scope rule has atr. 60 is what they are selling all our freedoms
for , a tech that isnt here and wont be for 10 years, if they have so
much worry about the engineers jobs future why not go to the table with
give us this this and this and we will work engineer only over the
road?
should i worry about the utu losing jobs?   i cant work in my town
account of all the yard jobs are rco's...and i have nearly 40 yrs!!!!!
this bunch of 21st century so called union men need to look back to what
our forefathers of the union suffered for us to have what we have ,this
bunch of  goons have been living in the cleveland suburbs for way to
long...if all else fails strike!! to hell with congress if we dont move
the jails cant hold all of us ,and as for the international officers
they have been collecting 200 thousand plus for over 20 years with
nothing to really brag about...let them get a dose of reality.... jail
food has improvred over the years.....hahs

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 March 2007

ARTICLE XX - SINGLE AGREEMENT NEGOTIATIONS

(a) CSXT and BLE recognize that through years of negotiating experience
on a national and property basis, most of the rules applicable to
engineers represented by BLE throughout CSXT are similar, if not
identical. A significant number of the remaining differences have been
eliminated by the terms of this Agreement. Therefore, the parties wish
to engage in expedited bargaining to reach terms for a single system
working agreement for the engineers on CSXT.

(b) Immediately after the implementation date of this Agreement, the
parties will schedule a minimum of five (5) days per month to engage in
interest—based bargaining to reach a Single Agreement.

(C) The parties will work diligently to voluntarily reach a single
agreement; however, if certain issues cannot be resolved, the parties
will ask the National Mediation Board to assign a Mediator(s) to assist
the parties in this interest-based bargaining.

(d) If the parties are unable to conclude the single agreement by July
1, 1997 they will ask the National Mediation Board to assist them in
determining an appropriate means to voluntarily resolve the open
issues.

(e) After the implementation of the Single Agreement, or common work
rules that the parties agree to place in effect prior to completion of
the Single Agreement, any questions or issues will be handled by the
Disputes Resolution Committee established under this Agreement.

(f) Notwithstanding the fact that a Single Agreement will apply to all
engineers on CSXT, the Carrier recognizes the autonomy of the three (3)
General Committees and their rights and privileges to handle matters
pursuant to the terms and conditions of the Railway Labor Act, as
amended.


Why are the union and company trying to place raises into the
agreement? Raises were never suppose to be a issue in the SSA. Only
working rules were to apply. This agreement was suppose to happen 10
years ago and never did. The union and company failed to live up to the
initial requirments. It should be a dead issue. Who tried to tie raises
with the contract, the union or the company or both? If you vote yes,
we are screwed for a few more years again.

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 March 2007

Another sub standard contract, pushed by a sub standard railroad and sub
standard union representation. I will be voting no. No more crumbs.
Current contracts are not honored. They will use the loop holes in the
SSA to lay the pipe to us even more.

Name: BottleNeck
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 March 2007

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System contract/National contract/system contract/national contract

Name: joker
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 March 2007

Hey keystroker, turn that 5-10 mins into 20 mins, and do it every trip.
It wont be such a pain in the ass when there is an extra $100 at the
end of the pay period.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 March 2007

Hey Strcker:

Don't feel bad, most of us are just hunt and peckers too!

That FRA form is a gigantic pain in the ass and must have been designed
by a real genius.

They have been around now for a little over 2 years, and based on what
you said, have not been improved any. A lot of the information could be
blown in from the time ticket, why it's not is beyond me.

I guess it's close enough for RR and government work though!

Name: Key stroker
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 March 2007

Can somebody tell me why I gotta fill out my time ticket in triplicate?
Everything on the FRA screen is the exact info that I enter into the
time card. Are all railroads this crazy or is it just CSX? 

Did you old heads have to do a FRA card with the time card when it was
a paper system?

I'm an old man, and new guy with little experience typing, it still
takes me 5-10 minutes to completely type out a time card and do the FRA
screen. Usually, by the time I get done filling out ALL THAT
INFORMATION, the short screen comes up. Then I get to do it all over
agin the next day.

Sheesh!

REJ

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 March 2007

It means the union got the carriers to back off from the harsh policies
that they have in place or want to put in to effect.

Name: Double Agent t
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 March 2007

I found this on Mike Ward's desk 
______________________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________________
Dear Mikey,

If these idiots vote this Proposed contract in that I wrote. I believe
we can use this for a guide for the 2010 contract. It's awesome its
what I dreamed about when I was  just a  boy. Having good hard working
men and women working for me and buying and trading goods at my store.
            Let me know what ya think.
Your Ax,
Tony                                                                   
                                                                    
P.s. Were going to Pay them in Company tokens HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE     
                                                                        
                                              Most of these new West
Virginians soon became part of an economic 







system controlled by the coal industry. Miners worked in company mines
with company tools and equipment, which they were required to lease.
The rent for company housing and cost of items from the company store
were deducted from their pay. The stores themselves charged
over-inflated prices, since there was no alternative for purchasing
goods. To ensure that miners spent their wages at the store, coal
companies developed their own monetary system. Miners were paid by
scrip, in the form of tokens, currency, or credit, which could be used
only at the company store. Therefore, even when wages were increased,
coal companies simply increased prices at the company store to balance
what they lost in pay.

Miners were also denied their proper pay through a system known as
cribbing. Workers were paid based on tons of coal mined. Each car
brought from the mines supposedly held a specific amount of coal, such
as 2,000 pounds. However, cars were altered to hold more coal than the
specified amount, so miners would be paid for 2,000 pounds when they
actually had brought in 2,500. In addition, workers were docked pay for
slate and rock mixed in with the coal. Since docking was a judgment on
the part of the checkweighman, miners were frequently cheated.

In addition to the poor economic conditions, safety in the mines was of
great concern. West Virginia fell far behind other major coal-producing
states in regulating mining conditions. Between 1890 and 1912, West
Virginia had a higher mine death rate than any other state. West
Virginia was the site of numerous deadly coal mining accidents,
including the nation's worst coal disaster. On December 6, 1907, an
explosion at a mine owned by the Fairmont Coal Company in Monongah,
Marion County, killed 361. One historian has suggested that during
World War I, a U.S. soldier had a better statistical chance of
surviving in battle than did a West Virginian working in the coal
mines.

Name: Nastyville
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 March 2007

Carriers will withdraw all work rules proposals regarding
staffing/consolidation, manpower utilization and productivity
improvements, and job actions



Can someone tell me what this means???????????

Name: Semper Fi
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 March 2007

Freddie

You best leave those Marines alone Boy.
I know who you are.
We Devil Dogs dont appreciate a smart mouth like yours

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 March 2007

WOW fell right into my hands.
Why pay dues to be sold out?
It happens every month with payroll deduction!
Everyone continues to do it, Because they are afraid of the
consequences.
Question? Is anyone standing up and refusing payroll deduction of their
dues, and paying monthly by check?? heck this is a start!
What a bunch of whiners, and payers, scared not to pay up. Darn that is
extortion!

Goofy

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 March 2007

It is off the BMWED web site. In short, retroactive pay of 2.5% to
7/1/05
3%-7/06-7/07
4%-7/08
4.5%-7/09
it also tells of 47 cents per hour taken from wage increases 2001-2004
for health insurance returned to the basic rate of pay effective
12/31/06.
Total wage increase from 7/1/05 - 7/1/09 = 21%
As for HW, it is capped at 200 per month in 2010.
National agreement

Name: Paul 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 March 2007

freddy,

Didn't your momma teach you to respect your elders.
A kid with one year needs to keep his mouth shut I'm sure you just
left the fries at mcDs 

you will be replaced by positive train control before you ever see a
throttle

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 March 2007

Everyone has to look at the big picture for what it is.  We've had
agreements in place for years that this cheap ass outfit doesn't
honor. How could anyone see this as a good deal when after the contract
is signed, the company will just go back to there same ole tactics not
honoring anything they agreed to.  This contract won't be worth the
paper its written on when its all said and done.  Vote NO!

Name: HogHeadFred
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 March 2007

Just my thoughts:


*Rates of pay: 3% for 2007, COLA's taken back, no back pay to
2004(UNACCEPTABLE)

*Signing Bonus: $2500.00, includes the back pay we are due
(UNACCEPTABLE)

*Rate Progression: Everybody at 100% after 3 years (GOOD)

*EC Pay: Goes to $15.00 (GOOD) but drops back to $5.00 if BLET cancels
Bonus program (EXTORTION?)

* Perfect Attendance Stock Reward: 20 shares per 6 months week-end
availability(GOOD-but who really will stay marked up this long?)

*Performance Bonus Program: (UNACCEPTABLE) Enough right here to vote
NO--HELL NO!!!!!

* Meals: (GREAT!) Increases to $20 after 4 hours, then $10 more after
20 hours

* Demand Days Off: (GOOD) we'll see how quick CMC refuses you to mark
off on this one,hehehe

* Personal Leave: (ACCEPTABLE) carry over up to 100 days

* Vacation: (ACCEPTABLE) extra weeks vacation up to 6 with 30+
years--old heads need this so they can sleep

*Electronic Bid System: (UNACCEPTABLE) Another reason to vote NO!!!!!


AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE REALLY ARE MORE NEGATIVES THAN POSITIVES TO THIS
TONY INGRAM AGREEMENT, I MEAN SINGLE SYSTEM AGREEMENT.


-----VOTE*NO-----VOTE*NO-----VOTE*NO-----VOTE*NO-----VOTE*NO-----

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 March 2007

Today, the Rail Labor Bargaining Coalition (RLBC), comprised thieves and
cons of seven rail labor unions, reached a tentative agreement on a
national contract with the oranized crime bosses, which represents the
interests of America’s freight rail corporations.

The tentative agreement’s five-year term includes wage losses and
ensures sky-rocketing health care co-payments. In the next month,
ballot materials will be mailed out to freight rail employees for
ratification.

“I congratulate the Rail Labor Bargaining Coalition for lining their
pockets in these negotiations,“This is a sad day for rail labor. After
30 years, it’s a sign of labor‘s weakness that union members from seven
rail unions were able to effect a company agreement from the rail
corporations. Being an essential link in the soup line, we knew all
along that railroads were manipulating stock , and now our members can
benefit from their lies and deciet.”

The NCCC represents the interests of of all mob bosses CSX,Norfolk
Southern, Union Pacific, Burlington Northern Santa Fe and Kansas City
Southern.

“More than 65,000 union rail members working on freight rail lines
across America were mislead and took of advantage of at the Poker game
by the RLBC,” 

The RLBC‘s members include the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and
Trainmen (BLET) and the Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employes
Division (BMWED), divisions of the Teamsters Rail Conference. The RLBC
also includes members of the National Conference of Firemen and Oilers,
the Brotherhood of Railroad Signalmen, the Sheet Metal Workers, the
International Brotherhood of Boilermakers and the American Train
Dispatchers Association.

“We reached a negative outcome because of our willingness to stab one
another in the back  “It was a team effort with all RLBC unions working
together toward one goal - negotiating a weak contract to line our
pockets”

“This agreement is a good example of the power of corruption  “No
single union could have achieved this outcome standing alone. I am
proud of the RLBC unions and their members who collectively stood
strong together throughout this difficult round of golf ”

The Teamsters Union was founded in 1903 and represents more than 1.4
million hardworking men and women in the United States and Canada.

Name: 1yr to go
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 March 2007

lantern (Krueger)head 


You don't have any idea whats going on.  You need go back to sleep and
what happens happens we will wake you up when we get there.

Name: Great lakes
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 March 2007

fred krueger

how many new guys have a weekend off day 
everyone has to look at  whats best for the membership not just
yourself 
you sound like a company man, you should run for office punk

Name: No Way Tony Ingram
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 March 2007

VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE N


Union brothers and sisters I'm begging you to cast your vote and cast
an intelligent NO.  This proposed contract is straight out of Tony
Ingram's back pocket. We all know how much this railroad has changed
since NS fired him and CSX hired him.  Ask yourself do want the RR to
have even more control on your money and your time off.  If this
contract gets voted in we will lose money, be tied in with the company
on the year end bonus.  When you come off your 7 day vacation you will
no longer be displaced.  You will be stuck on that Tues. off day even
though maybe you could have been off Sat. 

Anyone who recieves their stock for 6months perfect attendance must be
a border line FOOL.  And who is to say if you will even get it  
the last time that was offered is when we took over Conrail and the few
entitled to some stock never recieved it. 

This new job bid method  you guessed it right from NS (tony)
Mark off Fri- Sun  and lose 1/2 of all guarantee money due to you
We use to get back pay from the time the last contract ended untill the
new one was settled NO NO not this time we get  a 2500 signing bonus 
Friends do the math the back pay would have been more than 2500

Mandatory days off on the FP means more control on when you lay off
XB covers all extra work  = xb turns more therefore less gaurantee/and
FP makes less money 

WHEN EVERYONE MUST WORK OR STAY AVAILABLE AND THEY WILL BEFORE THEY
LOSE THEIR JOB     JUNIOR EMPLOYEES  WILL BE LAID OFF  BECAUSE THERE
ISNT A NEED FOR THEM ANYMORE   IF YOU ARE A JUNIOR EMPLOYEE OR HAVE A
FRIEND YOU DONT WANT TO LOSE HIS OR HER JOB YOU BEST  VOTE NO 

Send this joke of a  contract back to higher ups  those guys need to be
replaced    also

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 March 2007

CSX still SUCKS!  Until we do see some change for the better, this
website and the CSX SUCKS logo will continue to be spread out to bigger
and better places!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 March 2007

appears this is an availability contract and our pay is tied to
management bonuses. And if we opt out of this bonus program in 3 years
our certifcation pay goes from $15.00 back to $5.00. And we will get
the 50 cent on the dollar on the first 2% every pay day but the other
4% till next year and only if we get the bonus pay. No bonus no 4%
toward 401k. And please tell me I'm wrong about the extraboard losing
half of the gaurantee if not available on a fri. sat. or a sun?
Everyone needs to read this from front to back and write down question
to ask at the informational meeting and ask why.
I'm going to the meeting with an open mind and try to fatham why our
pay incentives are tied to management bonuses. And it doesn't seem
like the union has the right to ask, see,or demand on how the company
formulates the amount of the bonuses, if any

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 March 2007

Anyone can go to the "U.S. Dept. of Labor-B.L.S." and see that the
National average pay per hour for a Locomotive Engineer is about
$29.00. We are about $6 below average now and if my math is correct we
would still be $3 below with this s*** proposed agreement. I am so very
disappointed!! Remember, we already have an agreement! Don't except big
change unless it's a big improvement!!!  
     
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Question - Is this to replace the National Contract, or is this
separate and apart from it. If there is a 3% increase in our wages with
the single line agreement, will we get the raises (if any) in the
national agreement? 

I agree with the overwhelming assessment that we need to read and
re-read this single line agreement before we rush to judgement on it.
My gut feeling is that if it sounds too good to be true - it probably
isn't. 
 
    
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This replaces the national agreement. Seeing a BLET and RLBC tenative
national agreement is in place we need to look at both CSX is pushing
for this single system agreement which sends warning signals out.

Year end bonuses under Article 6 sec B of this agreement are only paid
if managers make their quota under the Management Compensation
Incentive Program (MICP). That right there is enough to make me vote
against it. I'll not marry myself to managements apron strings to
fetch out an increase in earnings. This has Tony Ingram written all
over it, it even mentions how the engineers on NS have enjoyed this
type of agreement. That's not the response we've seen to be getting
from the NS even though those on the BNSF who responded like it. We
need more imput from our Brothers/Sisters from the NS. 

     
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Please spread the word about this sight! I believe it can be a central
"think tank" for members all over CSX. We don't have much time to
get questions answered and vote.       
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This is from an NS engineer,

EVERY Feb. I think just that about our NS contract and its worthless
"bonus." Yes, we have received the "bonus" every year (so far) but
when you have a 6% raise over a 6 year contract and COLA payments are
figured using a mildly complex formula that doesn't even come close
keeping up with inflation...you lose significant pay. Who even knows
why they reopened our contract to extend it to 6 years in the first
place (there was no request from the members to do so). 

When you consider that the COLA formula was changed to pay us less some
time ago you have to wonder again, "WHAT were they thinking?". 

Had we simply received a raise of 10% over 3 years on the NS we would
have been further ahead BY FAR. Instead we are prisoners of the
economy. Every component of our pay would have been increased...from
extra board guarantees, to daily rates of pay, to personal days, to
vacation pay. One exception to that would be penalty payments that are
frozen at the rate of $14 and change per hour. Which, of course, post
85 people do not get which in turn encourages the NS to violate our
contract since there is no penalty in many cases to discourage it.
Which leads me again to ask "WHAT were they thinking?" 

In previous contracts we were brought up to the national level of pay.
Once we were hooked...the bombshell. We NO LONGER go to the national
level and more penalties are heaped upon us to opt out of the bonus
program. Somehow that tidbit was missed by the negotiators and the rank
and file. 

What really irks me is the fact that when we were kicking the contract
about PRIOR to the vote I was castigated by a vice GC for pointing out
that after the second year we would begin losing ground. Unfortunately,
most cannot fathom what compounding of wages does for us and chose
instead to go for the glimmer of a possible lump sum payment. They
could not fathom either what it means whenever a large part of your pay
is not included in the bonus. My 10% bonus became around 8%. 

I have to wonder whether the common working man was asked for input
during this round of negotiations. Our OFFICIAL discussion list was
taken from us to prevent open discussion by the members. This list
tends to talk more about other issues that, while important, distract
us from more important union issues. We are left in the dark and are
resigned to crying after the chips fall where they may. We apparently
DO NOT have economists employed to determine how issues will affect us
and therefore it is important that we have a voice. Of course, those
voices must be heeded and not dismissed as stupid blue collar opinions.
However, we are virtually ignored anyway. That is why I rue the day that
we lost the recall provision. We had the right to tell them that they
will be out of here if they do not represent the best interests of
those that suffer through short sighted agreements. 

I do recognize the difficulties posed by the Railway Labor Act and I am
perfectly aware that negotiations are supposed to be two-sided. However,
a little common sense should prevail. Our officials should be REQUIRED
to educate the members as to the pitfalls of a tentative agreement and
not simply state the supposed good points (like the bonus program that
has us falling behind). Education is supposed to be an asset. However
it works to our detriment whenever facts are skewed purposely or out of
ignorance. 

I find it VERY interesting that there was no discussion here (to my
knowledge) as to what we were going after. Even though the NS contract
is handled separately certain components are negotiated on the national
level. The most important people in this union were cut out of the
process. We ARE NOT stupid. 

For those reasons I will withhold judgment until the mushrooms (that
would be us) receive a copy of the tentative agreement. Hopefully, we
will not be asking "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?" 

 

I also wonder if we will be hearing the same rhetoric that the utu
spews after reaching an agreement, ' better vote this one in, or it
will only get worse'. I agree with him as well that it would be nice
if the union pointed out the good AND the bad, making an honest effort
to educate us on the proposed contract

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 February 2007

Hey Fedup:

Do what I would do...lay pipe!

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 February 2007

They had a board on me for minimum availability, and gave me 2 days
overhead even though I had doctor excuses, laid off the day before
board to be rested as instructed, claimed 2 days cd 31 and denied,
because overhead assessed. Last week I won my appeal, so they said
would pay my claim, but only paid 1 day and paid me the lowest rate of
pay, and 2 top that off, was denied holiday pay and payroll even went
back and took previous pay away for worked holidays, even though I met
availability.



 NICE COMPANY TO WORK FOR AND ILL BE SURE TO WORK THE NEXT HOLIDAY!

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 February 2007

Other side of this wonderful idea:

File the claim and if denied, your choice, take it and go on , or
refuse to accept.

If you refuse. You risk the service for which you could have been
called,and the expenses of all involved.

You had better be right, this concept could break you in 2 days.

GOOFY

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 February 2007

crack head...lay off the pipe!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 February 2007

Hey Crackhead:

You only get paid for an investigation if you're "not guilty". 

You don't think CSX would skew the truth to fit their side...do you?

Name: Crackhead Hogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 February 2007

I was talking with another rail the other day about denied claims. 

Here is my idea,  they either pay my claim or charge me for filing a
false claim.  I know what I am entitled to.  If they don't pay it, 
that must mean I am lying. I want an investigation that I can actually
get paid to attend and then have them pay my claim because it is legit.
 Thoughts?


Crackhead Hogger

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 February 2007

this contract looks like its for the engineer who wants to make money
and a lot of it. If you want to take a lot of time off when displaced,
end of vacation, or play the day off game,,, then its not for you. I
guess everyone must ask themselves,, did I hire on to work and make
money,,, or try to get a check and do as little as possible. Was also
told that if you stay marked up a number of weekends (not sure how
many) you will get some CSX stock. Oh-well, getting close to the 1st of
the month and I will have to get my retirement check,, oh thats right
its direct deposit:) To all you guys and gals, and all my friends
across the system,, be safe and have a good day.

Name: joker 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 February 2007

goober do you work for csx? are you a foamer? WTF?

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 February 2007

Why would a Union require 100% dues for 80% of the posted rate?

Because they can, and they like it that way.

You Pay and they get to play!


Cut them off, never pay by payroll deduction, Pay when YOU want?

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 February 2007

I MISS CONRAIL.  1975-1985 THAT WAS A GREAT TIME TO RAILROAD, MINUS THE
LAYOFFS.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 February 2007

Name: Spelling, Punctuation & Gramma
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 February 2007

I have spent some time reading the comments posted on this site and 
found some of the stories to be very interesting ;however, spelling
and
punctuation errors combined with poor use of the english language
greatly depreciate the value of the overall messages
 



The idiot couldn't even spell grammar or capitalize English.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 21 February 2007

The real idiot tells on himself by his spelling and grammar.  Sorry.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 February 2007

Posting a thread under every catagory greatly depreciates the site.
We aren't English majors, we are railroad workers. There is no reason
to have to scroll through every catagory to see the same article every
time. Especially when that article doesn't even apply to that section.
The web master has a variety of topics to choose from. Why should I have
to read the same thing, or scroll through every section because someone
is a idiot.

Name: Spelling, Punctuation & Gramma
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 February 2007

I have spent some time reading the comments posted on this site and 
found some of the stories to be very interesting ;however, spelling and
punctuation errors combined with poor use of the english language
greatly depreciate the value of the overall messages.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 February 2007

Hey Indy:

Probably doesn't matter much...they may deny your claim, since she's
in limbo!

I ran with a female engineer on the PD for a short time, I learned to
let her do the talking...when she did, we got run and in the yard, when
I did we sat and sat. She must have reminded the dispatcher of his wife!

Name: IndyEngineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 February 2007

NoMo,

Hey!  Still here in Indy.  What claim code should I use if I get Lucas
as a trainee? (Just kidding SK)

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 February 2007

Hey Indy:

Hadn't heard from you in a while...you been hangin' somewhere else?

If you get Lucas...you think you can charge CSX twice, after all she's
in limbo!!!. Ask her about the stick man she got...I wonder how she
knows it was a man...must of had an extra stick!

Name: IndyEngineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 February 2007

Boggs,

This is typical drivel that most company suck ups spew.  Whenever
crews
follow YOUR rules we get blamed for "milking" overtime.  If CSX
maintained the railroad like they should on these branch lines then
you
could get trains over the road quicker.  

Management ALWAYS wants to blame us for their stupidity.  Rice,
Rutledge, Reed, Chawktaw Wadlington, etal are notorious for those type
of attitudes in Indy.  

Our problem is we have to many "suck ups" and newby train riders
that
don't know any better that want to hurry and rush the work on every
job.  They may violate rules (on purpose or by ignorance) just to get
an "attaboy" from the trainmaster.  Meanwhile those of us who follow
the strict letter of the law in the rulebooks are made to look bad
because we make the overtime.  We are viewed with suspicion and
contempt by management.  We ALL need to stick together and follow the
rules maticulously.  I don't like a lot of these rules just like the
next guy/girl, but it will make you a ton of money!

Back to Boggs - in short, don't blame us for following the rules you
created.  Like an old-head told me when I hired out, "Do exactly what
these idiots (supervision) tell you and open up your pockets and let
the money pour in!"

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 February 2007

I hope to see an end to the 80% pay with the new contract. Ihope the UTU
has negotiated this to the best of their ability. Being paid 80% for
100% of the responsibility and trouble is wrong. Still being charged
100% of medical and union dues though, makes a lot of sense.  I
remember sitting in Atlanta and a UTU local guy signed us up for the
UTU after being there about 20min. I remember him saying if you want to
be paid at 100% we can make it happen for you. Still waiting. Maybe if
all of us still under 100% just paid 80% of our dues, maybe that would
get them moving.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 February 2007

I dont care about the older guys you think they give a fuck about us
younger guys? The answer to that is no they get what they want and the
younger guys fucking suffer. As far as the e5 board in erwin goes be
glad you have it we fucking dont even get a gareentee on f9

Name: Chuck
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 February 2007

I work in the JX division.  I am still under the one year rule. 
Recently, a few weeks ago, the company decided to furlough about 10 men
off the XBand also cut the board from 34 down to 18.  I was one of the
few to have SURVIVED the layoff.  The problem is, because I am now the
most junior man I can not stand for any work not even on the XB, yard
or RD.  If I do mark up on a job I am lucky to hold it for half of the
day.  I have asked to train on new territory in my district, but CREW
MGMT, says I can not do that unless I am FURLOUGHED.  I have not worked
in over 5 days, and might as well have been FURLOUGHED!!  In order to
supplement some income I had to burn my only vacation week for the
money.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 February 2007

The reason why you can't mark up is there most likely are older people
floating unassigned. Newbies you have to wipe their noses for them.

Name: Who Cares
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 February 2007

The problem with CSx is that it has emploYed so many lazy ass cry Babies
that now it cannot make any money.  They have let brakemen and
conductors sleep too long.  When they do get up out oF chairs they want
to file an injury report and sue so what, they don't have to work 8
hours a day, or should I say sit on their asses for 8 hours a day and
want an early quit to boot.  CRYING ASS BITCHES!!!!




THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM WITH CSX!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 February 2007

I get a phone call from a fellow employee about 10pm last night. He said
there were 15 more positions added to the brakemans board. There were 20
of us layd off on the apbr. They onley cut 10 positions off. I know that
onley leaves 5 positions to fil, but there is also open positions on
every other board enough to get everyone back working. I called the
crew caller and they wouldnt let me mark up. That was expected. Heres
the thing they have been ringing our phones off the hook wanting us to
work fourloughd. Fuck them. The crew caller was a bitch last night. She
said nope im sorry your fourloughd cant mark up in a real smart tone.
Fuck CSX calling me while im fourloughd asking me if i want to make
some money. Shit one days pay at 75% isnt gonna put a warm plate in
front of my children or keep my lights on after they take insurance and
all that other shit out. You dont care about Me working supporting my
family I dont give shit whether or not you run a million dollar coal
train fuck sticks.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 February 2007

News Flash.... Philadelphia....  Trainee is shooter in execution style
killings at the Old Philadelphia shipyard.
Name of Trainee/shooter, Vincent Dortch.......
Full story is in the Philadelphia Inquirer.
Dortch shot himself after exchanging gunfire with police........

I had him as a trainee last week.....

Name: CEE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 February 2007

GO CN Conductors.                                                      


Article 85
 In the event a matter cannot be satisfactorily adjusted, the General
Chairperson MAY request the assistance of the International
President.

The UTU statement says they cannot support the strike because of this
article. Doesn't the word "may" leave it open? It doesn't say "is
required" or "must". Sounds to me like a chicken shit cop-out.
Thanks BLE for crossing the pickett line, real solidarity there.. Are
they worried about their own negotiations in the US being affected?    
 

Anyway, does anyone know the reasons for their strike? Their letter to
UTU President Thompson only mentions conduct of investigations and
putting pressure on CN to negotiate.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 February 2007

Go CN General Chairman!!!!!!

 If you have not kept up this weekend, 4 CN General Chairman have done
what all of us in the US could only DREAM of ours doing , They called a
strike on Sat. Feb 10, 2007. We should be helping them with all our
efforts , but instead , the UTU President , Chicken shit Paul Thompson
has condemed the strike and has issued it illegal under the UTU
constitution. This means that all 2500 members on strike will not be
getting any help or strike pay from the UTU international and are doing
this on thier own. WAY TO GO CHICKEN SHIT THOMPSON. This is the way our
unions are today, collect our money , but do not help us when we need
it. Oh the BLE&T is not so helpful ether, they ordered thier engineers
to keep working and egnore the strike. WAY TO GO CHICKEN SHIT HAHS and
HOFFA. You guys just keep sitting in you nice plush offices collecting
$250,000 a year from our hard earned dues , while the rest of us keep
getting abused , worked to total exhustion , and in some cases killed
and injured.

   What I am asking , is that we all E-mail P. Thompson @
(President@utu.org) and D. Hahs @ (hahs@ble-t.org) to DEMAND that they
support our brothers and sisters on the CN in thier time of need. Not
to just sit on the sidelines. We all pay good hard money for the
support of the internationals and we need to DEMAND it now!!!! 

   Good Luck to the members of General Chairman Rex Beatty - GO-105,
General Chairman Bryan Boachler - GO-129 , General Chairman Sylvia
LeBel - GO-759 and General Chairman Raymond LeBel - GO-121. You have
the balls to do what we only could dream of our general chairman doing.
Good Luck and God Bless.

 KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT!!!!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 February 2007

I heard a good joke today, I want to share it with you all.  
Here goes...............


CSX


Hope you all injoyed it as much as in did telling it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 February 2007

It is just me or does it seem like the BLE gets more done than the UTU.
In my opinion Engineers have a better union.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 February 2007

Young Person is right on this one.
Take the money the first day that you can get it.

You will collect more dollars over your life time, than you will
waiting for just a little more.

However many can not take it now, they are not prepared to live on less
, so they need to work. This is called not preparing for retirement.
They keep working until they can no longer make the call or the RR says
enough.

Moral of the story--- Get a little good money for a long time, Or get a
lot of good money for a short time!
GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 February 2007

Did your mother have any children that lived?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 February 2007

I say let the old heads work.. we young hands have the rest of our lives
to be slaves to the rail system.. if the old heads want to be hogs and
work past there retirement..fucking letm.. they are only screwing
themselfs in the long run.. keep paying your rail road retirement...
and not collect it.. 

KEEP RRR SOLVENT..WORK TILL YOU DIE OLD HEADS

Name: Al
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 February 2007

Taking the basic math and reading test is a joke.I can't believe most
people past the math test.Who can remember some of that stuff all those
years? What a waste of time to try to get a job with CSX.It's got to be
fixed.

Name: BLET L/C
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 February 2007

***************************NEWS FLASH******************************


BLET and CSXT have reached a tentative agreement system wide. Don't
know the particulars yet, but will post something when it becomes
available.

Name: Big Fat 1
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 February 2007

W.Bancroft and Cory H are both fags who like to pound it up the butt on
layovers.  I've even seen them going at it in the register room.

Name: Rich Boy
E-mail: rb@cox.net
Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 February 2007

INSIDER TRANSACTIONS REPORTED - LAST TWO YEARS 
Date Insider Shares Type Transaction Value* 
2-Feb-07 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Option Exercise at $28.50 per share. $2,850,000

2-Feb-07 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Sale at $37.90 per share. $3,790,000 
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=CSX

Name: wolfe hater
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 February 2007

JUST THOUGHT I WOULD COME IN HERE JUST IN CASE TOM WOLFE COMES IN HERE
LATER TONIGHT OR TOMORROW !!

 HEY WOLFE BITCH JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I STILL HATE YOUR BITCH
ASS 

YOU SAY YOU TIRED OF PAYING ALL THAT GURANTTEE ???????

AND YOU WANNA SAVE THE COMPANY MONEY?????

GIVE THAT DAMN BIG BONUS THAT YOU GOT BACK TO THE COMPANY THAT WILL
HELP THEM SOME CAUSE YOU DONT DESERVE SHIT .....


THE WAY YOU TREAT PEOPLE (WOLFE) IS WRONG AND YOU WILL HAVE TO ANSWER
TO SOMEONE ONE DAY FOR YOUR ACTIONS TOWARDS THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE SCREWED
OVER !!!!!!!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 February 2007

hey turned them down...
first off... dont let other people infuance your choices in your
life... you should have taken the job and if you didnt like it..quit..
second..your going to find the same type of people and issues discussed
on CN or CP or what ever it was you said you where going to go for
next..its not just CSX...its industry wide.. the only thing is that
someone set up a websight for us to vent.. and i havent found any
sights that anyone has the balls to do the same for the other
railroads..

Name: Cory H. is a fag
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2007

In my years here, I have noticed that everyone of you fuckin babies
bitches, moans, complains, whines, and cries about everything under the
sun. You all hate your lives, so you come to work miserable and act like
fuckin children, worrying more about the gossip, stabbing each other in
the back, trying to fuck over the next guy, and strutting around with
one hour and twelve minutes more useless senority than the idiot
standing next to you. Most of you pretty much suck as railroaders,
wouldnt know a real days work if it bit you in the ass, and cant switch
your way out of wet paper bags. Those of you who are "engineers" know
only what the schoolbook says, have been spoiled since day one with
powerful, comfortable, climate controled wide-cabs, and couldnt figure
your way out of a jam out on the road if your life depended on it. All
any of you know how to do is point the finger. You all keep paying your
useless union dues though, so our scumbag, crooked chairmen can go
golfing and schmooze with management. You all act tough, but when put
in a situation where you can stand up for yourselves, you all cower
like little girls. I have been doing this too long to let it get to me,
but I feel sorry for all the new guys who the rest of you illerate
monkeys treat like shit. This is all they see from day one, and its all
they will ever know. You pieces of shit are indirectly training them to
be as lazy and useless as you all are. What a shame.
Yeah this place sucks, but you make it worse, and feed into the
problems. News flash: the world doesnt owe you anything just cause you
show up. You have to actually work. The speed and efficiency of you
fools is why everything is as fucked up as it is, and my personal
favorite is the disgruntled old fucks who pissed away branchline work,
local customers, and entire terminals(Hartford) because they couldnt
stop milking it all to death. The company sells property, or abandons,
or the customers leave, and then all you dirtbag losers cry about it
for the next decade saying they took your work away. You PISSED it away
ASSHOLES! And now that Im on a rant and have finally checked out this
site, where is that fat, druggie fuck W.Bancroft? I havent seen him
bobbling around W>Springfield like the Michelin Man in at least a
couple of years!

Name: Be happy in your work . 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 February 2007

I just watched the supr bowl game ,,drank alot of beer , and smoked some
pot , and did not worry about work anymore . keep working hard and
taking all the calls . .thanks boys . be happy in your work

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 February 2007

All the old heads that want to keep working past they day they can hang
it up.. go for it... evey day you work is one more day you will be
paying into RRR for me..and less days your going to collect the money
you already payed into the system.  KEEP RRR SOLVENT.. WORK TILL YOU
DIE OLD HEADS...

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 January 2007

Yes mr boggs i knew all that, but understand this, when the injuries
rise, this is the repercussions to your attitude, but i guess you know
that, and yes i know we have fela.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 January 2007

The National Carriers Conference Has Broken of Contract talks.

Please be sure to give the level of service they deserve!

Work as instructed , Dont give any suggestions on how to be more
efficiant And WORK BY THE RULES 100% and then some!!!!!!!!!

Name: CEE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 January 2007

CSX IS the Norfolk Southern. Everything we used to hear about the NS,
firing people for E-tests, predatory officials, "If you get hurt then
you must have violated a rule and now we are going to fire you" and
obsession with the ridiculous harriman award is happening on CSX.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 January 2007

csx is better then norfolk southern be happy

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 January 2007

Hey HTL:

Yeah...you're right. But I've never seen Bib Knickers in railroad
stripes!

Name: ht long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for N/A
Posted: 26 January 2007

nomo , 
if the govt didnt take his private golf course...i could caddy too!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 January 2007

Hey HTL:

I understand Willie Nelson is looking for a new coach driver...one that
won't get him busted! He could be your boss and best customer and might
even let you wear your railroad stripes.

Oh, just think of the tales that would be told!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 January 2007

Cond 1-10, Go to your LC ours managed to get yard guys their holiday
pay.

Name: ht long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 January 2007

IF WE DONT GET A CONTRACT SOON I AM GOINMG TO GO BACK TO THE 1970 ERA
AND START SELLING WEED!   AND ITS TAX FREE......WELL IF YOU DONT GET
CAUGHT!

Name: c.c.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 January 2007

I have been working a yard job since 10 01 06 (finally some fuzz)
thinking I was going to get to be home with my family for once during
the holidays and it worked out to my advantage or so i thought. Csx
sent the usual anullments for the holidays and my job was one of them.
Everything was going fine until michael ward said don't pay those
anullments and being a small fish in a big pond I paid the price. Being
on the graduated robbery scale I felt the pain. Michael has a measley
600.00 bucks of mine I am sure that will not light one cigar for him
but it would help my family pay our house payment. next year i won't
be anulled i will leave my family during the holidays and go to work. I
am sorry Mr. Ward you are right family means nothing. coal is everything
. lead by intimidation and fire.fire.fire or is it hire hire hire. I'm
sorry sir I love my job I have never had it better i will put my
blinders back on and believe my t/m and csx  cares about me and
research means forget about it''

Name: Casey Jones
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 January 2007

RE: Yardmaster 1-10

I hope this is true, only because I want to believe it.  I have respect
for a man you does this, stands up for what he thinks is right. 
However, Mr. Nelson often sides with that twisted Robert Pines on many
issues.  Pines has some major mental problems in my opinion, and blames
YOUR fellow union employees for the death of his wife. 

Where did you reference this information from?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 January 2007

Hope all of our Brother and Sisters enjoyed a nice $.15 raise while our
fearless leader is getting much more:

Ward, Michael J
Brief Biography
 Michael J. Ward, is the Chairman of the Board, President and Chief
Executive Officer of CSX, having been elected as Chairman and Chief
Executive Officer in January 2003 and as President in July 2002. He has
also served CSX Transportation, Inc., the Company's rail subsidiary, as
President since November 2000 and as President and Chief Executive
Officer since October 2002. Previously, Mr. Ward served CSX
Transportation as Executive Vice President ů Operations from April
through November 2000, and as Executive Vice President ů Coal Service
Group from August 1999 to April 2000

Basic CompensationTotal Annual CompensationLong-Term 
Incentive PlansAll OtherFiscal Year Total$2,884,527 $19,794,390 $7,375
$22,686,292

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 January 2007

INTERVIEW WITH THE RAIL INDUSTRY INSIDER DAVE NELSON-IS HE CSX'S PUBLIC
ENEMY NUMBER ONE?

Q: When was the last year you were employed by CSXT?

I officially resigned Sept. 1991. Unofficially, I have continued to
speak for many CSXT Signal Employees. We decided to select one
representative to eliminate 3 problems effecting safety, knowing we
would all be fired if we protested as a group. Unfortunately, I was
selected to take the hit. The 3 problems are: #1 Eliminate overcharges
to the "crossing and signals emergency protection materials budget."
resulting from what I consider to be bid rigging between CSXT and a 3rd
party suppliers. #2 Eliminate our being forced to commit what I consider
fraud against new (government funded) crossing installations. #3 Most
importantly, eliminate the use of a train detection control circuit
that is responsible for the deaths of innocent drivers.

Q: What is your current position and does it relate to railroad
highway-railsafety in any way?

I work at a Lowes hardware Store. I became tired of trying to resolve
the railroad issues on my own. I have been "Black Listed" by the
CSXT's former Chief Engineer of Signals and Crossings. I am now an
adjunct faculty member associated with the University of North Florida
teaching highway/rail crossing accident reconstruction, investigations
and prevention, with the classes being offered through Investigative
Police Technologies Management (IPTM). Class students include state,
local and federal police and agents. Students have also included NTSB
agents, and FRA inspectors.

David Nelson's contact information: Phone (904) 619-5405,
nelson284@juno.com .

Name: Hobo Joe
E-mail: hobo@RR.tv
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 January 2007

While your enjoying that $.15 raise, go ahead and write a letter to
these CSX officers and ask them how they enjoy the monies from their
stock portfolios especially that FAT COW Ellen M Fitzsimmons.

22-Dec-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 3,758 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $34.28 per share.
$128,824 
15-Dec-06 HALVERSON STEVEN T
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 KUNISCH ROBERT D
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 RATCLIFFE DAVID M
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 MORCOTT SOUTHWOOD J
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 RICHARDSON WILLIAM C
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 KELLY EDWARD J III
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 BAILEY ELIZABETH E
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 ALVARADO DONNA M
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
15-Dec-06 ROYAL FRANK S
Director 5,000 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $36.01 per
share. $180,050 
26-Oct-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Option Exercise at $28.50 per share. $2,850,000

Name: Mistah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 January 2007

BROOKS, Ky. -- Federal officials inspecting a train derailment south of
Louisville said they were focusing on the train tracks and equipment.

http://www.wlky.com/news/10786609/detail.html?subid=22100483&qs=1;bp=t

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 January 2007

Now all the union has to do is raise our dues and we will be losing for
sure.  Everyone is corrupt!

Name: hit-em-hard
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 January 2007

To compensate for our rate hikes for healthcare, we got a cola(cost of
living raise), which amounts to a whopping .15 per hour to cover rate
hike, thats is the agreement. Actually we gained a few pennies, but
sadly that is our raise for this year, fucking joke. What kind of raise
did you get mr nelson this year?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 January 2007

Looks pretty good...but there's got to be a down side somewhere in
there! The RRs don't give anything up unless they get some of equal or
greater value. I guess we'll find out sooner or later what it was!

Name: 12 years to go
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 January 2007

How many of you guys and gals would accept this contract GTW got?

http://www.ble.org/pr/news/newsflash.asp?id=4419

Pros and cons anyone?

Name: Mark
E-mail: d3crypt@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 January 2007

How much higher is our insurance going to get? I just got my paycheck
stub for Januaury!

I'm paying $148.98 for health insurance now, per month.

General Motors is going bankrupt and their employees are mad because
they're paying $200 a year! 

CSX is reporting record profits, paying unbelievable bonuses, and I'm
making, after taxes, health insurance, union dues, fired insurance,
disability insurance, about 11 dollars an hour!

I made $1680 in two weeks.. I brought home of that $1000!!!!

When will it end? WHEN??????????

Pissed Off,
Corbin, KY

Name: hit-em-hard
E-mail: stick-em-good@fuck-csx.blome
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 January 2007

For everyone getting furloughed about right now, guess what, as if you
havent figured it out yet, your just a f ucking # to them, so I say hit
them where it hurts, the wallet, I hope mr nelson and all the
jasksonville high rollers are reading this, just fall down, earn 2.5
times what you were making, and if anyone has a problem with this
comment, your a company prick, not a brother of mine! Ive been here 10
years and never get the opportunity to draw guarantee, they will cut
boards as soon as they see it coming, I have had 2 on the job injures,
both times the company was at fault, they tried to fire me but they
were clearly in the wrong, so just fuck them because I promise you we
have them right where we want them, right behind us with our pants to
our knees, just give them a little love in return.


How many points for this paragraph mr dave nelson?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 January 2007

I have worked with CSX and Norfolk Southern as Contract labor for over 5
yrs.
I past the new hire test once, and got a letter from Jacksonville
saying so. Now you have to take the new test for each job you apply
for... That is so crazy as I freeze up during test of this manor...
They have new time restriction on the math portion part 1 4 min part 2
4min and part 3 3 min... Fractions, compound fractions, decimals along
with multiplication and divid... Why do I have to take this test over
and over even though I past it 2 yrs ago.. I cant seem to pass it
according to the test I just took today here in Parkersburg...
I would think CSX would want qualified eager employees not just a book
smart soon to be lazy over weight track worker.... go figure...

Name: Mistah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 January 2007

Train derails, catches fire near Louisville
POSTED: 10:23 a.m. EST, January 16, 2007 
 Huge fire sparked by Kentucky train derailment
• Blaze prompts evacuations, state police say
• Burning material said to be inhalation hazard
• Part of Interstate 65 shut down in both directions, sheriff's office
says

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/16/train.fire/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 January 2007

I want to put on the BIG BRAKE...A LOT. I want to ACTUATE the
independent brake...A LOT. I want to sound the WHISTLE (--.-)...A LOT.
I want slack to RUN IN and OUT...A LOT. I want my train to SEPARATE and
have to fill out a SEPARATION REPORT...A LOT. I want my train to GO IN
EMERGENCY...A LOT. I want my conductor to get PISSED because he has to
WALK 100 CARS in the RAIN and CHANGE OUT a KNUCKLE...A LOT. I want to
LOOK in his GRIP while he is GONE...A LOT.

I LIKE using the BIG BRAKE when I have a DYNAMITER in my train, even if
I have DYNAMIC BRAKES...A LOT. I want to PROP MY FEET UP ON THE HEATER
while the CONDUCTOR is GONE...A LOT. I want to TAKE A NAP...A
LOT...WHILE ON DUTY. I want to TURN THE HEADLIGHTS ON BRIGHT when
PASSING A TRAIN...A LOT. I want to TURN ON the DITCHLIGHTS TOO...A LOT.
I want to ADVANCE the THROTTLE TO RUN 8 WITHOUT PAUSING IN
1-2-3-4-5-6-7...A LOT...WITH A 14,000 TON TRAIN ON A GRADE WITH NO SAND
IN THE RAIN...A LOT.

I like trains...A LOT. I like locomotives...A LOT.

I am a FOAMER RAILROADER...I FOAM A LOT.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 January 2007

I like trains...A LOT. I like locomotives...A LOT.

I am a foamer railroader...I FOAM A LOT.

Name: just wondering
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 January 2007

Questions for Dave Nelson-

If you are in corporate office, why are our cries not heard? 

Why does payroll nickel and dime us to death, why do they deny valid
claims only after much trouble paying them later? Why did csx put these
 screeners in place to not allow us to discuss our pay with personal who
can adjust our pay? I would be fired if Im caught padding the payroll,
what is csx punishment for stealing from us?

How can csx pay some people 100%, and pay others 80% for the same job
and expect the same job, only makes sense to do 20% less work. How can
csx only pay 75% for people on the extra board and others 100% for
doing the same job? Ive heard alot of people praising guarantee, as
soon as it slacks cm cuts boards, totally against our agreements saying
there will be 1.5 jobs on extra boards for every regular job, answer
that.

How can management expect us to work safe under this kind of
harassment? Why do you think all of the sudden, the older trainmasters
are stepping down? 

I could go on but Im outta time, just got called to work(doubling
today) with only 8 hrs rest(well, only about 2 hrs sleep, worked a 0430
job this morning, called exactly on my rest), hope my engineer is
rested, if not we are in trouble.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 January 2007

I would like to know if anyone has been forced to go to Locomotive
Engineer Training in Atlanta. Ga. and they have applied and approved
FMLA{Family Medical Leave Act} and told they could not take the leave
because if they did they would be terminated from their job right on
the spot and when they did go to Atlanta, and gave it their best and
then had to go back and retest for the second time and then was so sure
he passed and was refused to even see the exam!!!!

I was treated like a DOG at the wonderful REDI Center because of being
a day late when I had major car trouble travelling down there and was
terminated because all I was told was I failed the mechanical by 2.5%
and was told to get my a__ out of there, that I was finished and get my
d___ a__ checked out of the hotel and get my a__ back home!!!!!

I was sent home without any rest or sleep driving 10hrs back from
Wonderful Atlanta GA.

I think CSX is very very wrong in the way they treat their employees
and think the REDI Center should be investigated!!!!!!!!!!

I have lost $$$$$$$$$$, for the year 2006 thanks to their wonderful
policy on being forced to go, when all I wanted was to stay a conductor
but because of the wonderful clause in the B & O contract that can't
happen!!!!!!!

I know for a fact they treat employees very bad down there and give
them nothing but more STRESS than they need....What they want you to
learn and actually what you need to have out there to run a locomotive
is not necessary........

Anyone who has a RED BULLSEYE on their back when they leave their
terminals, will get treated very very badly and in other words, they
will find a way to terminate you when you get down there or when you
return!!!!

CSX and the Unions needs to rethink this whole situation with how they
promote their engineers, especially if a conductor wants to stay a
conductor and not be FORCED to go down to Atlanta and if they don't
they are as good as FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!

IT IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO TREAT THEIR EMPLOYEES AND BEING FORCED TO DO
SOMETHING THAT MANY DON'T WANT BUT THEY GO IN FEAR OF LOSONG THEIR
JOBS!!!!!!!!!

Name: dragline
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 January 2007

Screw Lou Dobbs! And screw your all catagory, mass posting arse too!
Just post the link and get off the channel.
Have a nice, friendly, safe CSX day!

Name: IndyEngineer
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 January 2007

More interesting reading. . . .

CNN's Lou Dobbs questions UP's motives 
Following is the transcript from the CNN Lou Dobbs Report, which aired
Tuesday night, Jan. 9: 
BILL TUCKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over, video showing dead bodies
from recent murders): These are the streets of Nuevo Laredo. This is
where Union Pacific railroad executives want to outsource the
inspection of its trains coming out of Mexico. They filed a request for
a waiver from federal regulations allowing them to save money by moving
cargo more quickly from the south and eliminating the inspection on the
U.S. side of the border. 

As for those who would do the inspection, a spokesman for the company
says that the workers will be agents of Kansas City Southern de Mexico,
certified in federal railroad administration regulations and tested to
be sure that they understand the rules and regulations of the United
States. If they're successful in winning the waiver, workers say it
will only be the beginning. 

EDWARD WYTKIND, TRANSPORT, TRADES, AFL-CIO: The next step they're
going to want to do is to create this -- again, this -- this through
train from Mexico, NAFTA on the rails, that will essentially performing
its transportation function in the U.S. without ever touching the hands
of an American workers. 

TUCKER: There have been more than 1,400 train accidents since 2003.
This one in South Carolina last year killed 11 people and injured 250
in a hazmat spill. 

Texas has suffered the most accidents of any state since 2003, 107. And
that is what is driving the opposition of the congressman whose district
includes San Antonio. 

REP. CHARLES GONZALEZ (D), TEXAS: Having a Mexican corporation and
Mexican personnel supervised, obviously, by foreigners, inspecting the
train cars and the locomotives before they come into the United States
I think is a terrible mistake. 

TUCKER: Gonzalez led the opposition the last time Union Pacific applied
for the same waiver two years ago. That request was denied. 

(END VIDEOTAPE) 

TUCKER: A public hearing on Union Pacific's request this time will be
held on February 7th in Laredo. We contacted the Association of the
American Railroads, who was quick to say, Lou, that this is an
individual company request. And they insist and claim this is not the
direction the industry is headed. 

DOBBS: Well, this is something I think would be embraced by Michael
Chertoff, the secretary of Homeland Security. You know, by the
reasoning that Union Pacific is implying here, and we know commerce is
far more important than citizenship. The markets are more important
than nations. 

Maybe we could just get rid of all those border patrol and put that in
the hands of the federales (ph) from Mexico. Get rid of all those
Customs people at those ports of entry at the southern border with
Mexico. Let the Mexican customs people and immigration people just
handle both sides. 

TUCKER: It certainly follows the logic that's being used. Absolutely.


DOBBS: Absolutely. I know this has got to be reassuring to every single
American.
 
January 10, 2007

Name: IndyEngineer
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 January 2007

Some interesting reading. . .


Just what are UP's intentions? 
(The following opinion article explores the political connections of
Union Pacific Railroad and speculates on intentions of Union Pacific to
acquire rail routes in Mexico as a prelude to merging with either CSX or
Norfolk Southern as well as Canadian Pacific. The article was published
Jan. 8 in a transportation law journal.)

Is Union Pacific (UP) in the hunt for Mexico’s largest and most prized
railroad -- Kansas City Southern de Mexico (KCSM) --– now leased by
Kansas City Southern Railway (KCS)? 

What UP possesses to make this a reality -- and which BNSF Railway,
also in the hunt, may not possess -- are the political connections in
Mexico.

For sure, BNSF has the cash to make an unsolicited bid for stock
control of KCS; but BNSF may not have enough political muscle to obtain
Mexican government approval for control of KCSM. 

It is said that with the right political connections in Mexico, one
might achieve most anything. And while UP may be short of cash, it is
rich with political connections. 

Indeed, all it might take for UP to snatch control of KCSM is an
unsolicited bid for KCS by a cash-rich private equity firm friendly to
UP -- such as the Carlyle Group; followed by a break-up of KCS, with
KCSM being transferred to UP with the help of politicos in Mexico. 

So important are those political connections south of the border that
even were BNSF to make an unsolicited bid for KCS, the KCSM routes
could still be transferred to UP. 

You see, it’s highly unlikely the U.S. Justice Department, Federal
Trade Commission or even Surface Transportation Board could assert any
jurisdiction over UP’s acquisition of a purely Mexican based railroad
-- assuming those agencies, given UP’s superior political connections
north of the border, would even blink an eye.

KCSM –-- whose 50-year concession KCS acquired from Mexican
conglomerate Grupo TMM – is Mexico’s most coveted railroad, running
from Mexico City to Laredo and serving vital Mexican ports, including
the booming West Coast port of Lazaro Cardenas.  

UP’s acquisition of KCSM is the sort of transaction over which 19th
century rail barons Jay Gould and Cornelius Vanderbilt would have
salivated. 

With U.S. West Coast ports nearing capacity, and Lazaro Cardenas, on
Mexico’s west coast, poised to become a major North American  inbound
container port, control by UP of KCSM would give UP domination over
Asia-Pacific land-bridge traffic destined to teeming Mexico City,
Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Houston and Kansas City; and set the stage
for a merger between UP and either CSX or Norfolk Southern, creating
the first Atlantic-to-Pacific transcontinental railroad.

Likely to follow would be a BNSF merger with the remaining East Coast
railroad, creating a transcontinental rail duopoly in the United
States. 

A WHO’S WHO OF POLITICAL CONNECTIONS

And before you predict a transcontinental rail marriage would not gain
regulatory approval, recognize that the U.S. Surface Transportation
Board is the sole arbiter of domestic rail mergers, and the STB and its
predecessor Interstate Commerce Commission have been facilitators of
numerous other major rail mergers, including the 1996 UP-Southern
Pacific merger that was strongly opposed by the Justice Department and
other federal agencies. 

For UP, the grab of KCSM would be equivalent to a month of Sundays.

Is this merely pie in the sky? Well, let’s look at the players -- all
UP friends, who comprise a tangled web of well-connected rain makers
and politicos.

Begin with UP and its Washington, D.C. law firm, Covington & Burling. 

Add to the mix the Carlyle Group, a privately held $19 billion
international investment firm with close ties to Bush presidents 41 (a
former Carlyle adviser) and 43, as reported by Britain’s Guardian
newspaper and U.S. investigative reporter Jerome Corsi. 

Stir in other political allies of the Bush family, as well as Mexican
politicos, and the tangled web takes on the look of carefully connected
dots.

Recall that Covington & Burling, in September 2003, hired Linda Morgan,
former chairman of the Surface Transportation Board, who supported UP’s
1996 merger with Southern Pacific, and who indicated to the Washington
Post in 1997 that she favored a railroad duopoly in the U.S. 

Morgan went to Covington & Burling after Covington partner Mike Hemmer,
who headed Covington’s transportation practices group, departed in 2002
to become UP’s chief legal officer. 

Morgan also sits on Canadian Pacific’s board of directors, suggesting
rather than a U.S. transcontinental rail dupoly, a North American
transcontinental rail duopoly is on the horizon.

Focus now on the Carlyle Group. Recall that in 2002, it purchased the
International CSX Lines Division for $300 million, then unsuccessfully
sought -- in a plan backed by the Bush administration -- to sell its
port-terminal operations to a Middle East government-owned entity for
some $1.2 billion.

Among the Carlyle Group’s U.S. principals are Richard Darman, the first
president Bush’s budget director, and Jim Baker, the first president
Bush’s secretary of state and a partner in the Baker Botts law firm
that has a long-history of acquisition projects in Mexico. 

In November 2006, UP created a new board seat for Thomas "Mack"
McLarty, president of Kissenger McLarty & Associates (we’ll get to
them) and a senior adviser to the Carlyle Group. Previously, McLarty
was President Clinton’s chief of staff and later Clinton’s special
envoy to Latin America 

And just four months before McLarty  went to the UP board, Andy Card,
with ties to Carlyle Group principals, was elected to the UP board.
Card was the first president Bush’s transportation secretary -- a job
he acquired with assistance from former UP chairman Drew Lewis, also a
former transportation secretary -- and was the second President Bush’s
first chief-of-staff. 

Also, let’s not forget that Vice President Dick Cheney is a former UP
board member.

Moreover, the Carlyle Group is no stranger to KCSM. In 2003, the
Carlyle Group itself unsuccessfully sought to acquire a 51 percent
interest in KCSM (then known as TFM). KCS won the bidding war. In fact,
Carlyle even inspected the lines of KCSM as part of what was termed,
"due diligence."

There’s more.

THE MEXICAN POLITICOS

Back in October 2003 --  just weeks after Morgan went from the STB to
Covington & Burling --  Kissinger McLarty & Associates entered a global
strategic alliance with Covington & Burling. The Kissinger is Henry, the
former Nixon administration globe-trotting secretary of state. 

This was about the time that Kissinger McLarty & Associates --
specifically, Mack McLarty -- was advising BNSF on strategic
transportation issues in Mexico. Apparently, McLarty jumped ship to UP,
leaving, according to a source, BNSF Chairman Matt Rose in a snit.

Now comes the Nov. 21 appointment of Luis Tellez, former head of the
Carlyle Group’s Mexico operation, as Mexico’s secretary of
transportation, with regulatory oversight of Mexican rail operations.
Tellez is a former chief of staff to Mexican President (1994-2000)
Ernesto Zedillo, who previously served on UP’s board of directors.

As for Tellez, he previously was on the board of directors of Grupo
Mexico, which controls a smaller Mexican railroad, FerroMex, that just
happens to be 27 percent owned by UP. Interestingly, Tellez joined the
Carlyle Group in Mexico as an adviser just prior to Carlyle’s
unsuccessful 2003 attempt to acquire control of KCSM. 

KCSM AND LAZARO CARDENAS

Here is why KCSM is so coveted a prize:

*  KCSM controls all tracks into and out of the Port of Lazaro
Cardenas.

*  The Port Lazaro Cardenas is blessed with a deepwater channel
sufficient to handle the largest of container ships;

*  KCSM already has acquired land adjacent to the port under a
zero-price, long-term agreement; 

*  Port operator Hutchinson Wampoa is investing in a 10-fold
port-capacity expansion;

*  Wal-Mart, whose second biggest market is Mexico, has it’s eyes on
Lazara Cardenas as a crucial North American port of entry.

*  Analysts at UBS project KCSM revenue from Lazaro Cardenas rail
traffic will soar from some $30 million in 2007 to almost $100 million
by 2015, and $255 million by 2025;

*  In terms of lifts, UBS projects an almost two-million 20-foot
equivalent container throughput by 2025, compared with some nine
million currently at Long Beach/Los Angeles, 1.8 million at Seattle,
and some 1.5 million at Oakland. The U.S. West Coast ports, meanwhile,
already are operating at near capacity with little room for expansion;

*  The rail route from Lazaro Cardenas to Chicago or Kansas City is
roughly equivalent in length to the rail routes from congested Long
Beach; is 600 miles shorter to Houston and closer to Atlanta. The port
also is the closest to the population-dense Mexico City;

*  CP Ships, NYK Lines, Maersk and APL already serve the port; and,

*  Lazaro Cardenas enjoys a substantial labor-cost advantage -- its
per-lift costs being some 30 percent cheaper than at U.S. West Coast
ports. 

Indeed, KCSM, with its sole rail access to the Port of Lazaro Cardenas,
is a modern-day Hope diamond; but prying it loose from KCS may be
equivalent to freeing Excalibur. And that is why UP’s superior
political connections are essential

BNSF remains interested; but UP, while not awash in cash as is BNSF,
has something more valuable --  its new-found cash-rich Carlyle Group
and Carlyle’s similarly extraordinary political connections. No wonder
BNSF’s Matt Rose is so irritated.

Who said railroads had become a mature and financially boring industry?


(The preceding opinion article was published in Association Highlights,
a publication of the Association of Transportation Law Professionals.
The article does not necessarily express the opinion of the
association.) 

 
January 9, 2007

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 January 2007

All I can say is "get out while you can." I did...and I am forever
grateful.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 January 2007

We are under FELA (Federal Employees Liability Act) this persons
situation is not new. I seen others lose everything, and that must be
taken in to account when it does come down to getting a settlement
which unfortunately might take several years even if settled out of
court. Hopefully he has a good FELA attorney. It is in no way similiar
to workmens comp.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 January 2007

I know someone who worked for the CSX Railroad for over 10 years as an
Engineer and had a back injury on the job. He has had several sugeries
to repair his back.  He has yet to receive all of his disability
payments and has been told that he will not receive any back pay.... 
He has three young children under the age of 10 years old and has a
wife to support.  Who is at fault for his not receiving his disability
insurance?  He says the laywers cannot get together on the payment. 
Just who makes the final decision?  They have lost one house to the
mortgage company and are about to lose another one.  They lived with
their in-laws 6 months while they tried to sell their house to buy
something smaller in order to meet their debt.  How come it takes this
long for a settlement?  The disability settlement for State disibility
insurance comes through very quickly.  That is not fair and it makes
the families suffer and gets them in trouble with their creditors, etc.
Is someone not telling all the truth???

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 December 2006

Just think it will go down next year without those OLI days. HARHARHAR

Name: sklucas
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 December 2006

Money!!!
Well my total is in. My regular earnings for the year
was......$46,528.96! IM RICH. Add back the vacation pay and my regular
grand total is$48,563.56. Of course I made more because I WORKED
OVERTIME and filed claims. I stayed marked up, only took one sick day(3
weeks ago) and was always available. The company can not count perks
such as holiday pay. That is not an annual salary. I am going on my 7th
year and I'm at 100%. 
According to the csx tabloids we are some of the best paid workers out
there. HA!! If you want to work a regular job(5 days a week) and have
some kind of family/home life this is what you get. If you want to make
20-30thousand more you must leave your home and hit the road.
I am going to do some research on the local city and fed jobs just to
see how much they make out there. When I get the totals I will post
them. Will be interesting to see what they make. I'm starting with the
city trash collector...

Name: MOW Trackman 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 December 2006

I love working for CSX I think it is one of the best places to work. The
things i dont like is how they are so family orriented and can get away
with haveing father and son work for one another. And why sone of these
conductors want get off their Fat can and look at their TRAIN TO KEEP IT
ON THE RAIL .

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 December 2006

Call the wagon.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 December 2006

Pulled up my paystatement,  all of it is under research,  boy do I feel
like giving them there moneys worth.  Hey, so that is what I will do.

Name: youjustdontgetit
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 December 2006

We have a way to get even, dont violate any rules and fall down, get
paid 2.5 times what you were making. And if they label you high
profile, sue their azzes. They will eventually learn that its easer to
catch a fly with honey rather than a turd. Remember dont violate any
rules when you fill out accident report or they will fire your azz, and
carry a small tape recorder on you at all times to catch all their nice
comments.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 December 2006

IRT the Military-RRB Unemployment/Sickness Bennies, does anyone know
what CFR code, or Fed Laws/articles relating to this?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 December 2006

Sickness Benefits for Railroad Employees 
UB-11 (07-02) 
Sick Pay and Supplemental Sickness Benefits View the UB-11 in PDF  

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Sickness benefits are not payable for any day for which you receive
sick pay from your employer. But benefits may be paid if you receive
supplemental sickness benefits from your employer or an insurance
company. Sick pay is a continuation of part or all of your wages while
you are unable to work. Sick pay is generally subject to all regular
payroll deductions. You must report sick pay on your claim form;
failure to do so may result in an overpayment of RRB sickness benefits
that you will have to refund.

Supplemental sickness benefits are different from sick pay.
Supplemental sickness benefits are payments made by your employer or an
insurance company to supplement your RRB benefits and are not subject to
Tier II retirement tax. Supplemental benefits are paid under plans
submitted by your employer and approved by the RRB. Do not report
supplemental sickness benefits on your claim. If you do not know
whether payments you are receiving are supplemental under an
RRB-approved plan, contact the RRB office nearest you for assistance.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 December 2006

Sickness Benefits for Railroad Employees 
UB-11 (07-02) 
Eligibility Requirements View the UB-11 in PDF  

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To receive sickness benefits you must:

be unable to work due to sickness, injury, pregnancy, or the birth of a
child;
  
receive no wages, salary, pay for time lost, vacation pay, holiday pay,
military reservist pay, pay under a wage continuation plan, sick pay or
other remuneration from railroad or nonrailroad employment for the days
you claim benefits. You must report such pay on your claim. However,
payments under your own health or accident insurance policy, or group
insurance policy, or under a supplemental sickness benefit plan
administered by your employer or an insurance company do not prevent
the payment of sickness benefits and should not be reported on your
claim forms (see the section Sick Pay and Supplemental Sickness
Benefits);
  
obtain an application for sickness benefits from your employer, labor
organization, or RRB office;
  
have your doctor complete the statement of sickness in support of your
claim for sickness benefits; and
  
complete and file the application for sickness benefits within 10 days
of the first day you become sick or injured. You may lose benefits if
you file late. An application is considered filed on the day it is
received by any office of the RRB.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 December 2006

Go to the RRB and it will tell you. 59 bucks a day if you arent drawing
from about 20 other places.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 December 2006

Any ex-military types, any advice would be helpful.

One of our Brothers, retired ex-navy (20 years) who was refused sick
pay because of the military retirement income he receives. Why is he
being denied benefits that he is entitled and has paid for.

Any of you experienced a similar situation? and what can be done about
it?

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 December 2006

Called payroll about the car mileage, they responded real quick on it.
Perhaps they have heard enough.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 December 2006

Its LUKAS.HARHARHAR

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 December 2006

That's SUSAN LUCAS - yard trainperson.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 December 2006

When they dont pay you for milage take the cab. When its over 30 miles
pack the bag a take the cab. Tell the crew caller you will need a wagon
every morning at the motel, one to carry you to eat and one to take you
back to the motel. Call the superintendent and let him know exactly
what and why your doing it and I promise payroll will get it correct
the next time. Everyone needs to do it. Everytime you do, call the
superintendent and let him know your still not getting paid and you are
still using a jitney.. Between lost working time, overtime and cab
expense it will get straightened out. The boss man knows this cost him
a arm and leg sending cabs to outlying points three times a day for one
man.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 December 2006

Is this something the Unions or an attorney can smack them for? Aren't
employers obligated by some state or federal law to reimburse personal
expenses?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 December 2006

It's been happening in our area for a while. Even the old heads are
calling PTI instead of driving their own vehicles. CheapSkateXpress.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 December 2006

Yep, happening here in Philly too about the car miles.  Must be a new
payroll clerk.  Time to call PTI or WW to get anywhere again.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 December 2006

I know how its spelled. LUCAS.

Name: skl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 December 2006

30+

Hate to burst your bubble but it wasnt me. still skl. No sense in
spellling out my last name anymore. You couldnt get right anyway.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 December 2006

It sounds like a poster on here with the initials reversed. She did
everything from dispatching to conductoring. She may run payroll to.

Name: I H8 Payroll
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 December 2006

Payroll is denying all car miles this pay period, signed KLS.

Anyone know who KLS is at the payroll dept?

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 December 2006

Old man HT Long??
 With his upper case set on 100%.---------- Oops he will never
understand that, I should have said with his cap's locked on, so that
he could understand. 
Oh well, it is so much fun to see him work so hard, time after time
trying to defend himself with nothing at all. Old man long just has to
have the last word, and it makes no difference how dumb he makes
himself look.
I just hope that this old man runs better than he communicates!
GOOFY

Name: HTLONG
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 December 2006

WOW POTTY MOUTH YOU WROTE A POST WITH NO CUSS WORDS AMAZING!

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 December 2006

We have a rash of cancer's here in Philadelphia.  What does the center
of disease control call such things?  Hot spots?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 December 2006

You are a joke.

Name: ht long                     
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 December 2006

hey potty mouth,
it was a sarcastic joke... duh!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 December 2006

And you say I make engineers look stupid..............HHHHMMMMM

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 December 2006

hey...i didnt get my productivity check this year......or last year..or
the year before........

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 December 2006

JimBoBillyBob, We heard you the first time. Someone did answer your
question. I do believe it's every quarter so the next one would be
from January to March.

Name: 
E-mail: jhjr061751
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 December 2006

Anybody know the flow back dates Ive been off awhile ........joejim  
jhjr061751@yahoo.com

Name: 
E-mail: jhjr061751
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 December 2006

Anybody know the flow back dates Ive been off awhile ........joejim

Name: Casey Jones
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 November 2006

CLAIMS FOR CANCER RELATED ILLNESSES - ENGINEERS, BRAKEMEN, FIREMEN -
DIESEL FUMES/TOXIC CHEMICALS -  ANYONE WHO PRESENTLY WORKS, OR HAS
WORKED, AS AN ENGINEER, FIREMAN, BRAKEMAN OR CONDUCTOR SHOULD HAVE
ANNUAL CHECK UPS FOR BRAIN, THROAT AND LUNG CANCER RELATED TO LONG TERM
EXPOSURE TO LOCOMOTIVE DIESEL FUMES OR OTHER TOXIC CHEMICALS.  DIESEL
FUMES HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE ONE OF THE DEADLIEST MAN MADE TOXIC
SUBSTANCES ON THE PLANET, AND RANKS RIGHT UP THERE WITH ASBESTOS,
RADIOACTIVE SUBSTANCES, LEAD, CARBON TETRACHLORIDE, ETC. I CANNOT THINK
OF ONE ENGINEER WHO WAS A LONG TIMER WHO DID NOT HAVE SOME CANCER OR
OTHER LIFE THREATENING DISEASE RELATED ILLNESS - WITH MANY WHO HAVE
DIED FROM BRAIN & LUNG CANCER. MOST OF THE OLDER LOCOMOTIVE UNITS WERE
HORRIBLE GAS CHAMBERS THAT POISONED THOUSANDS OR RAILROAD ENGINEERS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.  IF YOU HAVE, OR THINK YOU MAY HAVE, A CANCER OR
OTHER DISEASE RELATED ILLNESS, AND YOU WORK OR HAVE WORKED LONG HOURS
IN THE CONFINES OF A LOCMOTIVE, DO YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY A FAVOR -
HAVE A SIT DOWN WITH YOUR DOCTOR AND FIND OUT MORE. IF YOU ARE IN
PHYSICAL AND/OR FINANCIAL TROUBLE WITH THIS KIND OF ILLNESS, TALK TO
ANY ONE OF THE MANY TOXIC TORT LAWYERS REPRESENTING RAILROAD WORKERS /
OTHER UNIONS  LOCATED IN MOST MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREAS OF THE COUNTRY. 
THIS MESSAGE IS FOR ALL THOSE   RAILROAD MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE LOST
THEIR LIVES DUE TO EXPOSURE TO OTHERWISE AVOIDABLE TOXIC FUME AND TOXIC
CHEMICAL ENVIRONMENTS THE RAILROADS FORCED THEM TO WORK IN WITHOUT
ADEQUATE PROTECTION - AND THERE WERE THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS.

Name: Big B
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 November 2006

SKLucas,

I would like to hear from you. Are you from the Southeast, If so,
where. I would like to meet with you in person to discuss a matter that
can increase our bank account. 

Sincerely,
Big B " Lemmon Head"

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 November 2006

I hope your not collecting unemployment, I was told the board would be
expanded until the bridge reopens.

Name: Unemployment Collector
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 November 2006

Any word on the Annacostia Bridge in DC and when they plan to get it
back together so we can get back to railroading. Some say the Beginning
of December, some say January. Anyone on here with the inside scoop?

Name: 
E-mail: jhjr061751@yahoo.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 November 2006

Could anybody tell me when the flo back dates are Ive been off awhile on
disability ...............thanks jimjoe

Name: sklucas
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 November 2006

X-railroader,

15 years and fired??

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 November 2006

Conrail was never like this.

Name: X-Railroaded Railroader
E-mail: spoliation_inc@hotmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 November 2006

I worked for 15 years for a big railroad and used to complain a
little... not too much, but a little.  Now, after being fired and not
making crap for money I read the complaints of others.  Complaints of
people making 50, 60, 70+.  After long concideration I have decided to
help end all your pain.  You can come work with me.  I work with a
friend of mine doing construction and make 10.00 an hour. He will let
me take off any time I want and you will be able to do the same. 
There... your problem solved.

I also started a little business on the side. It hasn't paid off yet,
but it will. It's called Railroad-Lottery.   The website is
railroad-lottery.com.  I pass out Railroad-Lottery t-shirts and
lighters to people standing outside courthouses.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 November 2006

***********************NOT CLOSED DURING CHRISTMAS*******************



I EXPECT NO LESS THAN ANYBODY BEING MARKED UP FOR CALL THIS CHRISTMAS
HOLIDAY SEASON!! FROM DEC.24--DEC.26 ALL ALL ALL T&E SHOULD SPEND TIME
WITH THEIR FAMILY, ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH LITTLE KIDS. WHY SHOULD
RAILROADERS BE DEPRIVED OF THIS QUALITY FAMILY TIME WITH THEIR LITTLE
ONES LIKE WE HAD WHEN WE WERE KIDS? THE RAILROAD EXECS WILL SURELY BE
EATING HAM AND TURKEY WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND WE SHOULD TOO!!!!!!!!

############### REMEMBER----DEC.24--DEC.26 MARK OFF #################

             HAVE A GREAT CHRISTMAS WITH YOUR FAMILIES

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 November 2006

Hey brother's and sister's.  I've been a conductor for the WC and now
the CN for almost 8 years and it's just as bad by us too.  We feel your
pain and want nothing but respect and our family time back.  Start by
convicing the go getters and rest day workers to stop.  We've been
under contract negotiations for almost 2 years now but we're holding
strong.  At least a lot stronger than what they expected.  Voted down 2
proposals and willing to make it 3.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 November 2006

Now PICTURE THIS: 
LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER= Selling his stock at $37.02 and not caring if the
stock goes to $80.00 or more?

WOW got me on that one, That is really nonsense.
GOOFY

Big C and RR Jim (No Knuckle), we had a wonderful Thanksgiving, and I
hope that you did also!

Might just post a few shots of the Harley shop with the little one's
shortly.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 November 2006

After spending the whole holiday in the hotel, I can honestly say that
CSX really does SUCK!  The morale is not going to get any better
either, so Mike Ward can send out as many letters that he wants about
our culture; its not going to change!  I got back today just to see the
morale at a steady low.  You can bet that I will spend the Christmas
holiday with my family no matter what.  Let them take us all out of
service, they can run the trains themselves.  After getting screwed for
Thanksgiving, I really don't care anymore.

Name: DISGUSTED
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 November 2006

Well here it is THANKSGIVING 2006 and the trains are still running! I
thought more people would have laid off to bring them to their knees.

I guess we have more sucka$$es than i thought.......................

Name: from Buffalo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 November 2006

Participated in ESPP few years ago, ended up with 100 shares or so. 
Have seen the antics of this sorry-a$$ed co. go on for going on 8 yrs.
and decided to dump the stock...sold for #37.02 at the post-split
price.  I will never be sorry I did that, even if the price soars to
$80.  I made a few bucks and some other sucker paid dearly for a paper
tiger.

Name: Dave from Buffalo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 November 2006

I am not sure where to place this question so I will put it in all.

Did anyone read that pathetic letter from Michael Ward received at home
recently?

To me it sounds like a "pre-farewell" letter.  I think this guy is
wanting to get the business "house" in order so as to be clear to
move on to other things.  (Is GB needing another Treasury Sec'y?)

Oh God, I pray that that idiot from the NS (can't remember his name
right now) doesn't take over....of yeah, Ingram, Tony Ingram.  

Another thing...

I don't get it.  Ward writes like this is one of the worst companies
on earth and needs all this cleaning up so we can all work together
harmoniously or some such thing.  He's gotta have his head up the
Communist broad's a$$.  This company bends over backward for everyone,
and I mean everyone except the middle-aged white male who shows up for
work every time he's supposed to.  That's the guy that gets screwed
every time...he couldn't get a day off without lying about being sick
if his life depended on it.

Just my rant and rave of the day.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 November 2006

Hey HTL;

Glad you asked an expert...$57.00/day, going to $59.00/day 07/01/07!

Name: FlowBack
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 November 2006

Has anyone heard about CSX furloughing conductors after the first of the
year?  Just curious.

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 November 2006

well id be glad to help them out but i would like to know what it pays,
When i started out it was $12.50 the last time i collected it was only
25 bucks a day, if the price is right.....it wouldnt be above me from
taking the holidays off!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 November 2006

Hey HTL:

I bet CXS would love to see you collecting RR unemployment now. In fact
they're probably trying to figure a way to help you collect it!

Name: ht long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 November 2006

i couldnt collect rr unemployment for my first 3 years .
i filled vacations and only worked 3 - 5 months a year.
i guess its called paying your dues

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 November 2006

At least you have a place to bitch.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 November 2006

I just love the fact that our extraboard list was spining like crazy,
and yet we get laid off so upper management can get their bonus?!?!?
What the hell are we supposed to do when we get laid off and we're not
eligiable for Railroad unemployment OR state unemployment??? Nothing
like being left out to dry with no options...thanks alot for nothing,
CSX!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 November 2006

Just wanted to make sure everyone knew we are expected to be
"Excellent"

Our Vision:
To be the safest, most progressive North American railroad, relentless
in the pursuit of customer and employee excellence.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 November 2006

I know that 750k is a lot of money in todays dollars but picture this
from the 60's

Conductor Warren charged the company for everything, and after a while
I started to wonder, why was my claim not covered by the provisions of
the agreement, when his was.
This old man was the LC of the BRC and his wife was the person that
checked all of the time slips at the office. When I caught a trip with
old kenny it was a good pay day.
When I claimed the same thing with a new crew it was denied.

It seems that it has not changed a lot.

GOOFY

Name: The Shadow
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 November 2006

What Is going on in YEOMAN YARD ,TAMPA FL.?

Word is that two yardmasters were running a con game on fellow
employees and stole over 750 thousand dollars from them.

Is it true that the Terminal manager and other CSX officials were
involved? Is it true that money exchanged hands and this scam took
place on company property , on company time and with knowledge and
participation of said CSX officials?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 November 2006

Wow! Looks like someone is a sore LOOSER!

The railroads are doing well because your beloved GOP has shipped
American jobs overseas. And we are shipping Chinese goods back.

Your response is typical of Republican, so called Christian Hypocrites!

Name: Watching & Waiting
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 November 2006

To: All you tree hugging liberial punk a$$ democrats


Well after last nights vote, the HOMOcrats will be in charge of the
house and senate. So all you fagocrats cry about how they will be
better for us railroaders than the GOP was. Well, lets see what we get
in the next 4 years and then tell me how much you have now compared to
what we might have then! 

Democrats = higher taxes, less jobs, less money for our families


*******************BILL FRIST FOR PRESIDENT 2008*********************

Name: The Shadow
E-mail: Nice Try
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 November 2006

What Is going on in YEOMAN YARD ,TAMPA FL.?

Word is that two yardmasters were running a con game on fellow
employees and stole over 750 thousand dollars from them.

Is it true that the Terminal manager and other CSX officials were
involved? Is it true that money exchanged hands and this scam took
place on company property , on company time and with knowledge and
participation of said CSX officials?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 November 2006

BOHICA

Bend
Over
Here
It
Comes
Again

BOHICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DEMS WIN DEMS WIN!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 November 2006

Here is a few douche bags of the of Cullman Click Fags of Birmingham -
Boyles Yard.
These punks a$$es drink, play cards, and screw around on there wifes
at
Montgomery in the hotels.

Robbie Walker, his wife was screwing another railroader, I guess
Robbie
couldn't satisfy her the heffer she is. Haha she left your ass!

Chris Martin, talk about being married to your sister, she is butt-ass
ugly. This slow talking idiot could get a ticket for talking to slow.
INBRED!!!!

John Slayton, he is a fat ass pudgy bald headed smart ass punk. He
moved to Cullman to be part of the Cullman Clan.

These " Three Muska-Queers " are the sorriest railroaders one could
think of, they all got FAT ASS OVERWEIGHT WIFES. Makes you wonder
thats
all they got in life.

Hahahaha
Stupid CSX LOOOOOOOOOSERS!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 November 2006

Snitch list for Tampa:

J Harbour
E Schramm
T Shade
S Powers

Watch what you say and do around these guys

Beware of the JETS!!!


Have a safe CSX day

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 November 2006

Hey- I actually know J Harbour from Tampa, he's not a snitch per se,
just extremely lazy.  VERRRRRYYYYY Young!! Just doesn't know what
work
is.  I don't think he would ever mean to get anyone in trouble, but
don't ask him to work extra!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 November 2006

Hey- I actually know J Harbour from Tampa, he's not a snitch per se,
just extremely lazy.  VERRRRRYYYYY Young!! Just doesn't know what work
is.  I don't think he would ever mean to get anyone in trouble, but
don't ask him to work extra!!

Name: The Greek
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 November 2006

HERE HERE!!!!!!

I SECOND THAT MOTION, MY FRIEND

Name: Full throttle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 November 2006

I am a UTU member here in Cumberland and I don't recall ever seeing
this posted on the bulletin board before it was ratified. I don't
think it is anyone's fault. I think Larry Kasecamp does a good job
representing us. 

Maybe its time to make it to a meeting here and there. Maybe the unions
should hire the Miller Lite twins to appear at meetings to help boost
attendance. Hell, I'd mark off a trip for that!

Name: Chris
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 November 2006

If $100 per day is bad pay in Appalachia too than why would the other
LC's vote yes on the new training agreement? Maybe we should put a
rule in our constitution that all union reps must pass a basic reading
and comprehension test before they are instilled. 

Lets take a $6,200 cut in pay to save $4,000 for conductor school.

And I agree, that if CSX spent $20 million dollars on the REDI at
Atlanta, they have big plans on for the future and the colleges are
done!

Is it legal in our by-laws to pass out a petition to get a majority of
the membership to rally against this agreement?

Oh, and to that guy that says there is no democracy in the union, read
the letter the Lesniewski signed 2 years before this agreement. They
copied this agreement off a local agreement they had in Richmond, VA 2
years ago. Get your facts straight before you bash a labor union that
is there to protect from this toilet bowl of a company. Or better
yet...... GO TO A UNION MEETING, any UNION MEETING

Name: Monkeytown Man
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 November 2006

The guys a racist. He cant get along with his race, much less another.
Hes sick. He loves to start shit. But hes to chicken shit to say it to
a mans face.

Name: Big C
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 November 2006

Conductor 1-10 more like 1, did'nt you read NoMO's post before you put
up your thread? Life can be hard on a pimp. Sounds like you have a
problem getting along with people and life. I would suggest some
professional help. If how fat their wifes are,playing cards to kill
time and where they live brothers you, you are sick. You need to learn
how to work together, if you don't you will have a hard time on CSX.
Solidarity is the name of the game. Why would you want to post such
trival matters on the ones you work with? Keep that crap up and HT will
have to teach you how to take some of those ass whipping he took.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 November 2006

The "Waffle House" effect?

Name: htlong                     
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 November 2006

you sound a little jealous

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 November 2006

Here is a few douche bags of the of Cullman Click Fags of Birmingham -
Boyles Yard.
These punks a$$es drink, play cards, and screw around on there wifes at
Montgomery in the hotels.

Robbie Walker, his wife was screwing another railroader, I guess Robbie
couldn't satisfy her the heffer she is. Haha she left your ass!

Chris Martin, talk about being married to your sister, she is butt-ass
ugly. This slow talking idiot could get a ticket for talking to slow.
INBRED!!!!

John Slayton, he is a fat ass pudgy bald headed smart ass punk. He
moved to Cullman to be part of the Cullman Clan.

These " Three Muska-Queers " are the sorriest railroaders one could
think of, they all got FAT ASS OVERWEIGHT WIFES. Makes you wonder thats
all they got in life.

Hahahaha
Stupid CSX LOOOOOOOOOSERS!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 November 2006

"You know it's hard out here for a pimp"

                        DJAY F/ SHUG

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 01 November 2006

Snitch list for Tampa:

J Harbour
E Schramm
T Shade
S Powers

Watch what you say and do around these guys

Beware of the JETS!!!


Have a safe CSX day

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 October 2006

I have been hanging around here for a little while. and it is new to me
when I see the same post several times. Guess the newbys are now here
and are not sure of how to operate the site. Really simple folks read
the instructions. 
GEEZ I am going Flying, Real folks live in that world.

GOOFY

Name: bobby
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 October 2006

I thought that one of you guys might know this UTU Vice President
Iannone and could tell us on the Soutth Buffalo railroad why he is
trying to undermine our negotiations and force us into binding
arbitration.  I talked to some trainmen in Buffalo and they said that
he was working on your property as an officer too.  We belong to the
UTU just like you guys and thought you could help us understand why
this well paid VP wants to help the railroad.  That's all.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 October 2006

Meanwhile, you and the family are eating mac & cheese and wondering
where the next big check is going to come from since you were cut off
once again and they have denied the past 8 of 8 claims, the fucks in
the ivory tower have decided they need a little Christmas cash of their
own while they fuck you and your family in the ass and rake you over the
coals.  fuck this company, fuck Mike Ward and fuck the crew callers!
VOTE DEMOCRATIC!

INSIDER & RULE 144 TRANSACTIONS REPORTED - LAST TWO YEARS 
Date Insider Shares Type Transaction Value* 
26-Oct-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Option Exercise at $28.50 per share. $2,850,000

26-Oct-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Sale at $37.28 per share. $3,728,000 
25-Oct-06 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 19,064 Direct Option Exercise at $20.89 - $23.28 per share.
$421,0002 
25-Oct-06 GOODEN CLARENCE W
Officer 19,064 Direct Sale at $37.50 per share. $714,900 
25-Oct-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 33,334 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 per share. $535,677 
25-Oct-06 HAULTER ROBERT J
Officer 33,334 Direct Sale at $37.53 per share. $1,251,025 
25-Oct-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 10,622 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 - $19.8 per share. N/A

25-Oct-06 SIZEMORE CAROLYN T
Officer 10,622 Direct Sale at $37 - $38 per share. $398,0002 
25-Oct-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Option Exercise at $23.28 per share. $2,328,000

25-Oct-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 100,000 Direct Sale at $36.83 per share. $3,683,000

Name: Big C
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 October 2006

What has that got to do woth CSX?

Name: bobby
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 October 2006

Who is Tony Iannone?
by Bobby


I keep getting told by my general chairman on the South Buffalo
railroad that a UTU Vice President named tony Iannone is always giving
him a hard time and trying to force our members into binding
arbitration. We have been without a contract for like 5 years since we
were taken over from Bethlehem Steel by the Genesee & Wyoming system
and management has been trying to break our membership since they got
the BLE to sign a shitty agreement. Now this tony wants us to sign the
same lousy agreement and give up all the benefits we have acquired over
the last 35 years just to settle a contract. I know that he had to be
forced to go to mediation and tried to prevent that. When that didn't
work he has been dealing with the compnay behind the General
Chairman's back and not even keeping the General Chairman in the loop.
It was my understanding that Tony Iannone was supposed to be paid by the
UTU to help us, not to help the company bust our union. Can anyone tell
me what business this guy has doing these kinds of things and can we go
to the labor department to have him jailed. Now he is trying to force
our guy who is pretty new at the job into taking a binding arbitration
path and none of us want this man on the property any more. Anyone have
any ideas?

Name: IndyEngineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 October 2006

Hey Rep - that trainmaster wouldn't happen to be Tom Cook would it?

Name: Chris
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 October 2006

I agree the program is a joke

And the LC is right. 85% wasn't good enough then, why is $100 per day
gonna be better later? I'll take $100 per day if you start paying
overtime after 8 hours or over 130 miles while I am in training.

And let me tell you, $600 per week gross doesn't get you far no matter
if you live in Philly or Bangor, Maine. It is still a pittance for a
family to survive off of. 

I think training has become a huge issue recently because of all the
hiring going on. There aren't too many old heads left to teach us and
most of the time it is a new guy teaching bad habits to a new guy.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 October 2006

We've been doing that for years. Where have you been? So far it hasn't
made a change, nor will it.

Name: ggggggggggg
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 October 2006

gsx motto'it is noot how much will csx makes, but how much will it
cost,'

Name: rep
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 October 2006

I have a copy of the agreement that the UTU and the carrier hashed out
on the new hires. It was already signed by lesnewski on the copy I
Have.  The whole damb thing is a joke.  The crap where they would
receive 3000.00 after their first year if they had no fra reportable
injuries and no discipline on the idap policy is LUDICROUS!! What has a
reportable injury have to do with anything. If they trip over coke,
metal, ties and all the other junk thats laying in the yards all the
time and get hurt then they can loose their bonus. This is just another
way of influencing them to not turn it in. I have asked several
employees what they would do if they got hurt and new they could get to
a doctor and get help without the rr knowing to keep the money and
EVERYONE of them said they would hide it.  I then informed them thatif
they did that and the company found out somehow then they would be
charged for not reporting it and loose their money anyway. They didnt
care , They would take their chances. Just what the RR wants. They win
either way. I have an attorny that thinks otherwise but they will still
be in for a long fight. And if you think for one minute that these guys
wouldnt be stalked and watched like hawks then your crazy.  I guarentee
you  there would be several with observation failures and sent to
investigation before their year was up. We have a trainmaster now who
likes to throws past injuries in peoples faces when confronted with
rules that have nothing to do with the situation at hand. If the UTU
agrees with this then they have sold the new guys down the road.  I
hope someone meets them at the recruitors door and tells them the whole
story before they write that check.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 October 2006

Hey Loco 20-30:

Are you suggesting that Brothers Boyd and Little had their agreements
violated? Now they know the true meaning of "laying pipe"!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 October 2006

The FRA in it's 2006 report on the statis of the railroads the question
was addressed about new hire training practices. The UTU was contending
that it needs to be changed an a brakemen slot added for a minimum of
one year training before consideration of becoming a conductor. The
FRA's response and I have to agree is why did it take the UTU 14 years
to bring up any concerns. If I was the UTU I'd be questioning the
ethics of Clarence Little and Byron Boyd seeing they were in charge
when these agreements were put in to place. Both are probably ready to
get out of prison or already out this was their arsehole before prison
'o' this is what it looks like coming out 'O'. The UTU had no right
to make agreements on forcing people in to engine service, but dam they
were the darlings of the railroads the railroads lap dog they sabotaged
other union contract negotiations they hurt everyone of us. Current UTU
Prez Paul Thompson admitted it while addressing a regional convention
in Reno, Nv this past july. I watched his 27 minute speech that was
available on the UTU website, plus I read the FRA report on the UTU
site. Now that the UTU opened 'Pandora's Box' with the remote
control and loss of engineer jobs the carriers want to repay the UTU by
doing away with road conductors. How stupid was that? The BLET could
screw the UTU, but we're not we'll try and save those jobs because
two wrongs don't make a right.

Name: Freddy K
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 October 2006

I got this in an Email today about a vote comming up on Monday for the
Local Chairman on the B&O side. I thought it made some good points.
Maybe we should hold a discussion with our LC's too.


....


Brothers,

This letter is to inform you all that after much debate with my
Brothers in the UTU Local 1373 (Philadelphia) we have come to a
majority decision to vote against the Conductor Training Pilot Project.


The first reason is money. At $100 per day our trainees are earning:
 $12.50 per hour for an 8 hour day in training
 $8.33 per hour for a 12 hour day. 
 $7.14 per hour for a 14 hour day.

This is not a living wage for a union brother in the NYC / Philadelphia
metropolitan area. Most people working in a seven-eleven or in the
retail business receive more money per hour. 

If the carrier pays them the prevailing wage of 85% while they are in
training, they receive $140 per day in the yard. Most of our new guys
are pissed off about the 85% rule and now we want to agree to decrease
their pay by almost one third of the 85% wage? I believe if the
turn-over rate for trainees is so high, and the need for conductors is
great enough, CSX will have no choice but to pay the prevailing wages
for training and drop the College program.

Secondly, the UTU international is constantly stressing in bargaining
sessions that we need better trained new hires with more time spent in
the field with increased on-the-job training. If we are awarded the
increased training in this next national contract, we will have guys
earning $12.50 per hour, 6 days a week with no overtime for up to 26
weeks of training! Imagine the bitching and moaning we, as local
chairmen will hear if we agree to them earning $100 per day for 26
weeks instead of $140 per day. That is a difference of $6,240 after 26
weeks of training. (and that money is guaranteed, not contingent upon
not getting hurt, or having any issues or handling under IDPAP). If we
are planning to invest more time to properly train our new hires, we
have to plan ahead and make sure they are getting the most amount of
money they can while they are in an extended program. 

For far too long, the carrier has undermined our agreements and slowly
whittled away at our work rules and rates of pay. Lets not agree to
something that will pay our men less money with more strings attached
to the IDPAP policy. If manpower is at such a premium and the turnover
rate is so high, let the railroads pay the negotiated, prevailing
wages, if not more, to retain talented and competent new hires. $100
bucks a day might be good money for a new guy out in the boon-docks,
but it wont pay the rent and put food on the table for a family living
in a row house in West Philly or Jersey City. Since this was a closely
divided issue here in Philadelphia, I'm sure it will be everywhere
else. I just wanted to share the thoughts of this Local with the rest
of the Fraternity and those who have not yet made up their minds.
Hopefully everyone else will give this careful consideration before
voting on Monday. 

Your Brother,

Mark Poserina
Chairman, UTU Local 1373

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 October 2006

I might snitch if they threw in a case of crew packs and a pallet load
of bottled water. On a serious note there has always been the misguided
on the railroad who think by hanging out underneath the TM or RFE desk
it'll win them brownie points. Wether they do it intentionally or
sometimes unintentionally by having a big mouth only that person knows
for sure. Posting them on this site is just as bad as what they have
appeared to do in your eyes.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 October 2006

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 October 2006

watch out for conductor mcclurry in walbridge ,when he was a trainee 
he
got a free binder for his papers by snitching on a conductor for not
having his safety glasses on . gotta love the incentive program here
at
csx , snitch on your brother they give you a free binder .

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 October 2006

better yet, apply and get on board with the UP.  They pay for training
instead of stealing your money and then cutting you off the board to
starve.  Yeah, UP sucks as well, but at least the bastards at the top
of the food chain don't charge.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 October 2006

Snitch list for Indianapolis:

John Marquess
J.J. Harris
J. Lawler
B.D. Matthews
E.J. Smith

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY AROUND THESE MEN, THEY ARE PIPELINES TO THE
COMPANY!!!!!!!!!!


It is the truth gentlemen/ladies.  Big Brother is listening and
reporting.  Stay safe.  100% RULES!

Name: sklucas
E-mail: suzannahk@sbcglobal.net
Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 October 2006

W.McClenathan,

I hope you are of good physical health. Before you apply for any csx
position you better get some comparative strength test(similar to
csx's) You could have a PHD or a degree from NASA and it wouldnt
matter if you dont pass their strength test. Education is not as
important as their strength test. My understanding is they dont give
you the test until they already have your money so if you fail you
loose it all. Dont bother to apply unless you know for sure that you
can pass it.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 October 2006

3500- vs 3800 miles per month.
HUMMM 
Did you know that your competition runs that in a week. Yep and have to
steer as they go, and do the scales, and fuel tax and a whole lot more.
Wake up folks< Time is money. 
I hate to see the union tire workers and their problems, but the unions
are coming to the rescue with a $100.00 smackaroo payment to the
faithful after 5 weeks on strike, Have you ever see anything as
unreasonable as this crap.
GOOFY

Name: William McClenathan
E-mail: turbo_diesl@yahoo.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 October 2006

Hello,
 I am trying to find a Job with the railroad doing whatever, if its in
the yards loading or switching cars I dont really care, I just want to
get on with the railroad. I live in Utica, New York so if anyone knows
any jobs with the railroad near or around me please email or call me.
My email is turbo_diesl@yaho.com and my phone is 530-514-4234   Thanks

Name: Chris
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 October 2006

Well, Than if you earn over 3500 miles, than call the crew dispatcher
and mark off overmiles. 

If you don't earn your 3500 miles in a month and you stay marked up
the whole time, than file a penalty claim for the lost earnings. 

Also, start claiming 10 hours undisturbed rest every time you tie up
from a run. I know that makes CMC angry because I heard them talk about
it on a conference call.

This is not the LC's fault, they are doing it all over for engineers
and conductors. This is Flanley's little way of trying to punish the
unions.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 October 2006

With fatigue being a hot button issue now, perhaps the RRs are just
enforcing the mileage limits already in place. If they don't the FRA
might require mandatory days off in the pools.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 October 2006

On the UP their trying to take the average down to 3200 miles from 3800
miles apparently the Engineers walked out and had a sick out which
stranded 250 trains for almost 3 days now the UP is taking the BLET to
court for the damages.

Name: Joe Blow
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 October 2006

Just wondering if this is happening anywhere else....


Tom Flanley is inflating all the pools in the B&O territory so that all
the freight pools make 3,500 miles per month as per the B&O agreement
for conductors. 

This puts a cap on every conductor's wages, basiclly freezing your
earning potential to 3,500 miles per month. 

This guy is a Conrail punk and needs to be whipped and beaten back into
the stone age! I advise all of you to file every runaround, calling
error, and any other penalty against CMC and follow up with the denial
by submitting it to your union rep. We need to break his budget with
claims so he can't get a bonus this year.

Name: ananymous
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for N/A
Posted: 16 October 2006

Watch out - JJ HARRIS.  We know you are a company snitch!!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 October 2006

Just how fat is Joe Berry?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 October 2006

Just in-case you need some BULLSHIT to read while your on the pot taking
a shit, then use the paper to wipe your ass all over Mike and John,
FUCKING PATHETIC LOSERS!

CSXT Responds to FRA Track Concerns

The Federal Railroad Administration issued a draft safety report on
CSXT track inspection and maintenance programs in March. The following
are responses that were issued to employees and customers by
then-president Ron Conway. These responses were issued prior to
management changes at CSXT and the departure of Mr. Conway as
president...

LETTER TO EMPLOYEES, APRIL 3, 2000 . . .

To All CSXT Employees,

I know that many of you are concerned over recent news articles
regarding FRA findings on our track inspection and maintenance
programs. I want you to know that we take FRA's findings very
seriously, and that John Snow and I will be personally involved to
ensure that all of the problems are fixed. As painful as the recent
public criticism has been, I believe that in the long run, this will
make us a better, safer, and more focused company.

Like any organization, we have problems that we need to continually
work on. Despite the recent problems, we are a safe railroad. In fact,
our track-caused derailment rate in 1999 was the lowest it has been
since 1995, and was 8% better than 1998.

FRA has recognized publicly that the audit also found exceptionally
well-maintained areas. In a press article, a senior FRA official said
that "...some of them showed major improvements over the last time we
looked at them ... we think the railroad is a safe railroad. We're
here to work in partnership with them."

We perform very well in other areas, too. Our transportation team moved
over 430,000 hazmat shipments last year with over 99% delivered safely
to our customers. Obviously, while these are positive trends, we can't
be satisfied. We must continually work to improve in safety.

Despite our challenges, as long as we work together in the spirit of
the social compact, we will be able to meet the needs of our customers,
fellow employees and the communities that we serve.

Thank you for being a professional and for doing your part every day to
make us better.

Yours truly,

RON CONWAY

LETTER TO CUSTOMERS . . .

Dear Customer:

No doubt, in recent days you have read or heard about the Federal
Railroad Administration's (FRA) draft safety report of CSX
Transportation that was first reported in the Friday, March 31st
edition of the Washington Post. We received a copy of that draft report
on March 14 and have been cooperating and collaborating with the FRA
every step of the way.

Like any organization, we have problems that we need to continually
work on. Despite the recent problems, we are a safe railroad. In fact,
our track-caused derailment rate in 1999 was the lowest it has been
since 1995, and was 8% better than 1998. FRA has recognized publicly
that the audit also found exceptionally well-maintained areas. In a
press article, a senior FRA official said that "...some of them showed
major improvements over the last time we looked at them ... we think the
railroad is a safe railroad. We're here to work in partnership with
them." We perform very well in other areas, too. Our transportation
team moved over 430,000 hazmat shipments last year with over 99%
delivered safely to our customers. Obviously, while these are positive
trends, we can't be satisfied. We must continually work to improve in
safety.

We take the findings very seriously and believe there can be no
compromise with safety on our railroad. All of the defects reported by
the Post have been repaired - including all gauge defects - or, they
are in the process of being repaired, and our operations have been
modified to ensure safe movement until the work is completed.

To make sure the FRA's findings are addressed promptly, CSX chairman
John Snow will personally head an internal company review of all track
maintenance and improvement programs. In addition, I am personally
leading a senior team that will include Gary Spiegel, senior vice
president of operations, and Tom Schmidt, the railroad's vice
president of engineering, this week to inspect the FRA-identified
problem areas.

Again, I want to assure you that the safety of our employees, rail
passengers, the products you ship on CSXT, and the communities in which
we operate, is our highest priority. We will continue to communicate
with you on this very important subject. In the interim, please contact
me or your CSXT sales representative to discuss any specific questions
you may have.

Sincerely,

RONALD J. CONWAY

President


 

CSXT Responds to Management Changes

CSX Corporation announced on April 11 that its president, Ron Conway,
and some other officials had left the company. The following are
letters sent to employees concerning the matter...

FROM MICHAEL WARD, WHO WAS APPOINTED EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT IN CHARGE
OF OPERATIONS AND RAIL NETWORK PERFORMANCE...

Dear Colleague,

The last few years have been a time of great change and challenge for
all of us at CSX. One of the things I've learned in my 23 years with
this company is that our operating team always rises to the challenges
and has learned to embrace change as a catalyst for making us
stronger.

It's with a deep sense of pride that I'm joining this team. I'm also
pleased to announce to you the key members of the operating team that
will help us to meet the challenges ahead. Al Crown will be senior vice
president-transportation, responsible for directing all transportation
activities, including the five regions and the operations center. Mike
Cantrell adds engineering to his responsibilities and becomes senior
vice president-mechanical and engineering. Jim Fallon will serve as
vice president-network operations, succeeding Clarence Gooden, who
joins the commercial team as senior vice president-Coal Service Group.
Gerry Gates will succeed Al Crown as vice president-Central Region.
Please join me in congratulating each of them as they assume their new
responsibilities.

Others who will continue to play key roles in the Operating Department
include: Ed Codd, vice president-risk management; Bob Downing, vice
president-Northeast Region; Frank Pursley, vice president-service
design; Mike Pendergrass, vice president-Southern Region; Mike
Peterson, vice president-Western Region; Tom Schmidt, vice
president-engineering; Jim Schultz, vice president-safety and chief
safety officer; and John Williams, vice president-Midwest Region.

While change is inevitable, my goal is to minimize the amount of change
in the operating departments and to focus on the basics: safety, service
and costs. We will not compromise on safety - it is our first priority.
We will be working closely with Mike Giftos and the commercial team to
improve our service performance to a level that meets our customers'
expectations. And we'll continue our focus on increasing productivity
and the cost effectiveness of the network.

The foundation for building on our successes is the social compact with
employees. I have experienced how powerful the compact is, and it will
remain the basis for our relationships going forward. With that
foundation, the tenets for our organization will be teamwork,
leadership and treating everyone with respect. I believe in working as
a team and for every individual to understand his or her role in
achieving the team's success. I also am committed to improving the
quality of work life for our operating employees - union and management
- and the operating leadership will be focusing on that initiative.

Each of you holds the keys to our success through your dedication,
expertise and ideas for making us a better company. Over the days,
weeks and months ahead, you will see me and other members of the
operating team often. Please share your thoughts with us. By working
together, we can achieve the levels of performance that our employees,
customers, shareholders and communities expect.

 

FROM MIKE GIFTOS, WHO WAS APPOINTED EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF
COMMERCIAL OFFICER...

Dear Colleague,

It is with great pride that I join CSXT's commercial team. While this
has been a challenging time for our company and customers, the service
groups have performed effectively in meeting many of their goals.

We will work closely with Michael Ward and his operating team to
provide customers with the best rail transportation possible. Michael
and I have worked together for many years to overcome challenges and
seize opportunities like those facing us now. And in confronting these
new challenges, we recognize that we are not providing the service our
customers expect or deserve. Our teams will partner to change that,
making consistency and value our top priorities. Through a renewed
focus and close working relationship, we are confident we can provide
the service our customers have asked for. In addition, I am committed
to improving communications with our customers. We must continually
update them on our progress and give them realistic expectations on our
service performance.

I am also pleased to announce the senior members of the new commercial
organization.

... Dale Hawk, a veteran in the auto arena, will continue as Senior
Vice President of the Automotive Service Group.

... Joining him will be two newcomers to the commercial group. Clarence
Gooden, formerly Vice President-Transportation and a proven operations
leader, will serve as Senior Vice President-Coal Service Group.

... Bill Flynn, formerly Senior Vice President-Strategic Planning for
CSX Corporation, has been named Senior Vice President-Merchandise
Service Group. Bill formerly served in a number of senior sales,
marketing and other management positions at Sea-Land.

... In addition, I have asked Chris Jenkins to transfer his expertise
in the commercial area to the broader role as Vice President-Sales and
Marketing. Chris will serve as a commercial strategist and help lead
our pricing and capacity management efforts.

These leaders bring a unique combination of talents and experiences
that will allow us to effectively meet the needs of our customers.
Please join me in congratulating Dale, Clarence, Bill and Chris as they
move to their new posts.

However, success will only be realized with the help, energy and
insights of every one of our employees. Over the next several weeks I
plan to visit with as many of our sales and marketing professionals as
possible in Jacksonville and in the field. You know our customers'
needs and how to serve them. I look forward to working with and
learning from you.

Together I am confident we can leverage the full potential of our
expanded network and achieve all that is expected of us by our
customers, our shareholders and our colleagues.

 

FROM JOHN SNOW, CHAIRMAN AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, CSX CORPORATION .
. .

Dear Colleague,

The attached news release is being issued. The release below details
significant changes in our senior management team to better enable our
company to move quickly and decisively toward critical goals in safety,
service to our customers and revenue growth. I look forward to meeting
with as many of you as possible in the days and weeks ahead as we build
a foundation for a new, higher level of performance.

Sincerely,

JOHN SNOW

 

CSX Corporation, which owns and operates the largest railroad in the
eastern half of the United States, today announced changes in its
senior management organization.

John W. Snow, chairman and chief executive officer of the corporation,
is assuming responsibilities formerly handled by Ronald J. Conway.
Conway, who joined CSX from Conrail in 1998 and was named president in
1999, has resigned to pursue other interests. "We are grateful to Ron
for his contributions, most notably for leading CSX Transportation
through the complex integration of Conrail properties into our
network," Snow said. "I am pleased that he will be staying with us as
a consultant.

"CSX has a terrific opportunity to grow earnings substantially," Snow
noted. "Our job now is to sharply focus the entire organization on the
overriding goal of enhancing shareholder value by stepping up the pace
of operations, making this the safest railroad possible and bringing
customers the level of rail service they want and need. We've done
that before, and now is the time to do it again."

Reporting to Snow, these senior executives will have key leadership
roles:

... CSX Corporation Executive Vice President and Chief Financial
Officer Paul R. Goodwin has been named vice chairman. All financial
functions in the company have been integrated under his supervision,
and he is heading a major effort to drive out costs and improve
financial performance.

... P. Michael Giftos, formerly CSX Transportation senior vice
president and general counsel, becomes executive vice president and
chief commercial officer at the railroad. Giftos, who has been
responsible for pricing strategy, will be in charge of the railroad's
merchandise, coal, and auto marketing and sales efforts.

... CSX Transportation Executive Vice President Michael J. Ward is now
responsible for operations and rail network performance. He formerly
led the railroad's coal operations and managed the company's two-year
effort to integrate former Conrail operations into the CSX system.

The Office of Chairman, established in 1999, will continue to manage
all CSX staff and key support functions. It includes Vice Chairman A.R.
"Pete" Carpenter; Goodwin; Mark G. Aron, executive vice president-law
and public affairs; Andrew B. Fogarty, senior vice president-corporate
services; William J. Flynn, senior vice president-strategic planning;
William J. Ryan, senior vice president-human resources; Jesse R.
Mohorovic, group vice president-corporate communications and investor
relations; and Robert W. Shinn, vice president and executive assistant
to the chairman. 

 

John Snow Calls for "Sense of Urgency"

[From CSXT Employee News, April 13, 2000] . . . In a meeting with
employees in Jacksonville - the first in a series that will take him to
all five regional headquarters - Chairman and CEO John Snow committed to
lead CSX to a new level of safety, service to customers and financial
performance. "We have to get this company turned around fast, and we
can," Snow told employees Tuesday in the lobby of the Jacksonville
General Office Building. "We're falling far short of our potential.
Our potential is to enhance shareholder value and to delight customers,
and right now, we're not doing that." Earlier in the day, Snow
announced that he was assuming the "hands on" running of the railroad
in place of Ron Conway, who departed. Snow thanked the Conrail veteran
for the many innovations he brought to CSXT, including the development
of the five geographic regions and the service groups representing
coal, merchandise, automobiles and intermodal.

Snow said he would "accelerate the pace of change" and make more
rapid progress in increasing train velocity and reducing terminal car
dwell and cars on line. But to reach CSX's full potential, something
more was needed. Snow pledged to create a workplace built on consensus
and decisiveness, urgency for action, and one in which employees feel
free to express ideas and disagreement. In the end, however, the
results must improve. "Nothing is going to move us ahead like running
the railroad better and faster," Snow said.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 October 2006

What a crock of SHIT!

Michael Ward Says Railroading Will be Fun Again

[From CSXT Employee News, April 13, 2000] . . . Michael Ward, newly
appointed executive vice president for rail operations and network
performance, said he wants to bring some of the fun back to
railroading. "We've done this before," he told employees during the
Jacksonville lobby meeting. "We've run the railroad in fine fashion.
It's fun to be on a winning team." Ward pledged a return to the
basics, with an intense focus on safety, customer satisfaction, costs
and asset productivity, and pricing. Ward also echoed Chairman and CEO
John Snow's theme of accountability, and Vice Chairman Pete
Carpenter's long-held view that companies succeed when they are "hard
on facts and easy on people." Ward said CSXT would operate on a
"no-fault fixing" mode. Rather, energy and ideas should be directed
to finding the problems and eliminating them.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 October 2006

said Ward, CSX's chairman, president and chief executive officer, in a
Nov. 10 prepared statement.

"Throughout this effort, we will use a thoughtful and disciplined
approach that respects the dignity and contributions of all our
employees."

Ward said. Some 90 percent of CSX's work force is unionized and he
acknowledged that "your flexibility and the degree of freedom is less
under labor agreements." 

"We're putting the world the way God intended it to be," Ward,
CSX's chairman, president and chief executive officer, said to laughs.
"We're doing God's work getting trucks off the highway."


Ward, who lives in San Marco, said the type of corporate scandals that
happened at Enron and WorldCom won't happen at his company. CSX
strives to be "above reproach" 

Many in the crowd at the downtown Adam's Mark hotel were impressed by
Ward's remarks.


Another qoute(s) of complete bullshit:

Sidebar: Message from the Top

"CSX's safety policy is clear," says Michael J. Ward, chairman and
CEO. "We are committed to provide transportation services in a manner
that will ensure the safety of our employees, our customers and the
communities we serve. 'Safety is a Way of Life' - it is one of our
company's five core values and it's the foundation for everything
else we do. 

"Another of our core values is 'People Make The Difference.' Our
people are the heart of our safety processes. It's our people working
together - union and management alike - that has led to the
improvements we've seen and will enable us to achieve our ultimate
goal of zero injuries and accidents. 

"Our safety vision is to be widely seen as the industry leader in
safety. From the chairman's office to the dedicated men and women
handling trains, track and rail cars - we aspire to that vision every
day through an unwavering commitment to safety."

"Our personal injury and derailment numbers were simply too high on a
quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year basis," Ward said. "In
addition, during the fourth quarter we had a higher than normal number
of serious injuries, an issue we are aggressively committed to fixing
at every level of the company."

What a pathetic lying piece of shit that fuck nut Ward is.

Wards wife this morning in the kitchen:

Ward, don't you think you were a little hard on the Beaver last night?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 October 2006

Aggression unopposed becomes a contagious disease. 

Jimmy Carter

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 October 2006

Only if you have been in the deepest valley, can you ever know how
magnificent it is to be on the highest mountain. 

Richard M. Nixon

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 October 2006

INSIDER & RULE 144 TRANSACTIONS REPORTED 

29-Sep-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 13,668 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 per share. $219,644 
29-Sep-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 13,668 Direct Sale at $33 per share. $451,044 
27-Sep-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 235,000 Direct Sale at $32.58 per share. $7,656,300 
27-Sep-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 235,000 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 per share. $3,776,450

15-Sep-06 RATCLIFFE DAVID M
Director 370 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $32.05 per
share. $11,858 
15-Sep-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 25,000 Direct Sale at $32.65 per share. $816,250 
15-Sep-06 WARD MICHAEL J
Officer 25,000 Direct Option Exercise at $16.07 per share. $401,750 
15-Sep-06 SHEPARD DONALD J
Director 370 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $32.05 per
share. $11,858 
15-Sep-06 BREAUX JOHN B
Director 292 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $32.05 per
share. $9,358 
15-Sep-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 5,332 Direct Sale at $32.65 per share. $174,089 
15-Sep-06 FITZSIMMONS ELLEN M
Officer 5,332 Direct Option Exercise at $20.89 per share. $111,385 
13-Sep-06 ALVARADO DONNA M
Director 410 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $30.47 per share.
$12,492 
13-Sep-06 HALVERSON STEVEN T
Director 410 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $30.47 per
share. $12,492 


That Fat Cow Ellen made some more money last month.  I hate the legal
dept.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 October 2006

And just think...poor Mike is only 48th on the list, I guess he'll want
a raise next year!

             http://www.aflcio.org/paywatch

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 October 2006

i like capitalism but this is a bit disgusting...........

one would think he would give us a pretty good contract wouldnt you?

Michael J. Ward
Chief Executive Officer
Csx Corporation  



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2005 Compensation  
Salary  $947,792  
Bonus  $1,832,000  
Long-Term Incentive Payoffs  $19,794,390  
Restricted Stock Awards  $0  
Other Compensation  $112,110  
Value of Stock Option Grants*  $0  
Total 2005 Compensation Plus Stock Option Grants

 $22,686,292  
Compensation from Prior Stock Option Grants**  
Value of Options Exercised in 2005  $1,126,976  
Value of Exercisable Options  $2,726,370  
Value of Unexercisable Options  $9,850,928  
* Black Scholes present value model as estimated by The Corporate
Library. 
** Not counted in 2005 compensation totals. 
Source: The Corporate Library  



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CEO-to-Worker Comparisons  
 Annual Weekly Daily Hourly Per Minute 
Michael J. Ward $22,686,292 $436,274 $87,254 $10,906 $181 
Minimum-Wage Worker $10,712 $206 $41 $5.15 $0.09 
Average Worker $25,501 $490 $98 $12.26 $0.20 
President of the U.S.A. $400,000 $7,692 $1,538 $192 $3.21 




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How Many Years to Equal Michael J. Ward's 2005 Compensation?  
Minimum-Wage Worker  2117 years  Completion Date  4123 A.D.  
Average Worker  889 years  Completion Date  2895 A.D.  
President of the U.S.A.  113 years  Completion Date  2119 A.D.  




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How Many Workers Equal Michael J. Ward's Compensation?  
Minimum-Wage Worker  2117 workers  
Average Worker  889 workers  
President of the U.S.A.  113 presidents

Name: pissedoff
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 October 2006

fight fire with fire, all we have to do is push back, "fall down!",
make sure not to violate any rules and take a dive, just imagine if 60%
of work force sprains ankle the same day, and stay off for a few weeks,
fair is fair.

Name: Blackrider
E-mail: yannie312003@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 October 2006

This company we call CSX.... They talk about Right Result, Right Way....
So why is it that when an employee takes time off for emergencies they
still gets punnished for it... or they dont pay their employees and
expect them to break their backs for 8-12 hrs every day in all types of
weather... Right now i have more than $500 in unpaid claims and $300 in
denied claims.... Is this how you expect to get the Right Result? Is
this the Right way to do anythin?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 October 2006

August 2, 2002  
  
Time to Repeal the Taft-Hartley Act
By Ralph Nader, Washington, DC


This year marks the 55th anniversary of the passage of the Taft-Hartley
Act, one of the great blows to American democracy. The Act, which was
drafted by employers, fundamentally infringed on workers' human
rights. Legally, it impeded employees' right to join together in labor
unions, it undermined the power of unions to represent workers'
interests effectively, and it authorized an array of anti-union
activities by employers. Among its key provisions, Taft-Hartley:

• Authorized states to enact so-called right-to-work laws. These laws
undermine the ability to build effective unions by creating a
free-rider problem—workers can enjoy the benefits of union membership
in a workplace without actually joining the union or paying union dues.
Right-to-work laws increase employer leverage to resist unions and
vastly decrease union membership, thus dramatically diminishing
unions' bargaining power.

• Outlawed the closed shop, which required that persons join the union
before being eligible for employment with the unionized employer.
(Still permitted are provisions which require any member of a
bargaining unit to pay a portion of dues to that union.)

• Defined "employee" for purposes of the Act as excluding supervisors
and independent contractors. This diminished the pool of workers
eligible to be unionized. The exclusion of supervisors from union
organizing activity meant they would be used as management's "front
line" in anti-organizing efforts.

• Permitted employers to petition for a union certification election,
thus undermining the ability of workers and unions to control the
timing of an election during the sensitive organizing stage, forcing an
election before the union is ready.

• Required that election hearings on matters of dispute be held before
a union recognition election, thus delaying the election. Delay
generally benefits management, giving the employer time to coerce
workers.

• Established the "right" of management to campaign against a union
organizing drive, thereby scuttling the principle of employer
neutrality.

• Prohibited secondary boycotts—boycotts directed to encourage neutral
employers to pressure the employer with which the union has a dispute.
Secondary boycotts had been one of organized labor's most potent tools
for organizing, negotiating and dispute settlement.

The political damage of Taft-Hartley was just as severe. In addition to
starting an era of red-baiting with the American labor movement which
led to harmful internal division (a now-invalidated provision of
Taft-Hartley required union leaders to sign anti-Communist affidavits),
the Act sent a message to employers: It was OK to bust unions and deny
workers their rights to collectively bargain.

In short, Taft-Hartley entrenched significant executive tyranny in the
workplace, with ramifications that are more severe today than ever.
Union membership is at historic 60-year lows, with only 10% of the
private economy's workforce unionized. Employer violations of labor
rights are routine, and illegal firings of union supporters in labor
organizing drives are at epidemic levels.

It is past time for the repeal of Taft-Hartley. That would be one
important step in restoring workers’ right to organize into unions to
achieve a living wage in the Wal-Marts, McDonald's and other
workplaces, and in revitalizing American democracy.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 October 2006

Just a quick refresher. We are NOT under the NLRB, like 90% of industry
are. We and the airlines are under the Federal Railway Labor Act. The
unions (and companies) wanted a seperate situation way back when, and
at the time it was a better deal. This is also why we are not under the
Fed. Minimum wage law, or workmans comp., state unemployment agencies,
or OSHA in areas where the FRA regulates. The Railway Labor Act does
follow the NLRB in general except where it is specifically different,
as in stopping work outages. But you cannot assume that NLRB rulings on
bumper stickers, union stewards, etc. are going to be identical.
National Labor Relations Act and related (Taft-Hartley, etc.) cannot be
assumed to be applicable just because they are used at GM, etc. RR
unions and companies still want to work out their own deal in these
areas.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 October 2006

We are using them, that was a great idea.  Don't worry brother, we're
all on the same page.  You can only push the help around for so long,
then they snap.  We will get our revenge.

Name: sklucas
E-mail: suzannahk@sbcglobal.net
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 October 2006

Just out of curiosity.. Is everyone using the E-test questionnaire forms
at their yards or are we the only ones using them(Avon) I know our local
chairman designed them. If you dont know what they are they are used to
report frivolous e-test failures. We have been collecting them to use
in a future charge against the company of out-right harrassment. We
have collected over 180 at last count.  If you are not using them we
would be more than happy to supply you with a copy. The International
has approved the format and is supporting this move full force.

Our best one so far.  One of our conductors was waiting for a cut of
cars to be shoved into a clear alley in the middle of the dept. yard
and one of our brilliant trainmasters said he was fouling the tracks.
When asked how the trainmasters responce... You had the heal of your
boot on a railroad tie.  The trainmater was about 15 car lengths away.
A brown boot on a brown tie from 15 car lenghts away with no
binoculars.  What a crock of crap....

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 October 2006

Hey sklucas:

Yeah...you know your right. A cold beer and hot dog would go along way
of improving attendance. After the meeting of course. I believe the
by-laws requires a fixed day of the month and starting time for the
meeting.

Our meeting is the 1st Monday of each month @ 5PM local time. I don't
know who will show-up tomorrow, but I do know who will not be there.
The entire afternoon shift, unless their are off or they take off. They
never come! The early industry switchers aren't back, the late ones are
already on duty and the road crews are either coming, going or in bed.

The day of the month could rotate(Monday one month, Tuesday the next,
etc)if you could get around the by-laws. That would certainly help.
Additionally I have often wondered why they have not explored what I
will call a super local or regional. Committees that would encompass
the entire Seniority District. Down here that would include New
Orleans, Mobile, Montgomery, Birmingham and Pensacola.
Elections could be held every 5 years and the Chair could rotate
between the sub-districts annually. The meetings could be wheeled on a
monthly basis as well. After all, the problems in NO are the same in
Birmingham, only their names and faces change. Consolidation would also
greatly increase  leverage. CSX will take a request from a committee
representing 600 employees a lot more seriously than from one
representing 100 employees. 

The technology exists that allows members in remote locations whether
that be a hotel, another union hall or even ones home, to participate
in the meeting.


I am of the opinion that part of the reason it takes so long to get
anything done through the GCoA is the shear volume of work they are
expected to do. A regional might help alleviate some of that work load,
if it were allowed to deal with payroll claims and disciplinary issues,
more effectively and in a lot less time.

Ideally you could hold your meetings at the yard office, but you can't
conduct union business on company property unless it is in CSX best
interest to let you!

Name: sklucas
E-mail: suzannahk@sbcglobal.net
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 October 2006

Dear Nutless,

First let me apologize to you. I was not insinuating that you were not
a good steward(In your duties) if you hadnt heard of my father. I
should have worded that differently.  what I wanted to say is if you
were a cut throat steward who wasnt afraid of cutting the throat out of
management then you should have heard of my father. But then that could
have been taken as an insult as well.. so best if all is left unsaid.

As for my reference to salting, Im aware that does not pertain to our
situation. That was just a reference note if you decided to look him up
out of curiosity.  I see you are a man who does his research.

Tact is not one of my strong suits.  Neither is being politically
correct..  I have been working on it(obviously not very hard) I find
that sometimes it takes pissing off the people in your ranks to get
something done. I made you mad and you came back with positive imput
and also asked for suggestions! Imagine that! Pretty good huh!!!!

As for getting members to the meetings?  They have to be moved around. 
Ours are too far for alot of people to travel who live out of town.
Roadmen who have been away and stuck in a hotel for 12-16 hours want to
go home. You know how the railroads radical schedules are especially for
new hires on the extra board. They are lucky if they get 4 hours of
sleep and the last thing they want to do on their 1 day off is spend it
at a union meeting. Meetings should be brought closer to the yards. 
Maybe a local resturant or someones home close to the yard. The local
chairman should circulate a questionnaire a week before the meeting so
people who just cant come(have to watch kids,etc...)can submit concerns
they want addressed. This will give the local chairman some time to do
research and have answers. All concerns should be addressed if time
permits and if not it should be noted in the minutes that they will be
on the next meetings agenda.  The minutes should be published with the
names of the members who submitted the questions.  people feel more
important when they see their names in writing. They feel acknowledged
and feel that their concerns actually meant something. Finally there
should be a follow up to the issues addressed at the meeting if a
definate conclusion was not made. Members want to know where their
issues stand. There is nothing worse than being left completely in the
dark. The most common remark made....I pay my hard earned money for
this union to represent me and i want to know where its going and what
they are doing to fix our problems!

By the way.. why are you not a vise local chairman? With your knowledge
of union matters and tactics you should be an asset. I hope you are not
getting burned out. Management can make you a very evil, vendictive
person. Been there,done that, and still thinking about it. 
Im sure you know what I mean.

Name: nutless wonder
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 October 2006

To sklucas

No, I have not heard of your father.  He sounds like one heck of a guy
though.  My hat is off to what he has accomplished.  I have however
heard of salting.  I did a search on your father and see he was
involved in the IBEW, although it seems he was more in the construction
trades with the IBEW.  I was heavily involved in the electrical utility
(power plants) end of it, but I can assure you just because I have not
heard of your father does not mean I wasn't a good shop steward. 
Apparently most of his remakable work was done on the west coast, while
I was a continent away on the east coast.  I'm sure I could drop a name
or two within the upper echelon of the IBEW that you have not heard of
and I wouldn't be so tactless as to suggest that because you haven't
heard of that name that in itself would not make you a good union
steward.  As a side note, you really need to work on your tact and
diplomacy when dealing with folks who have the same goals as yourself. 
Please save your insinuations to those in the management yanks.

I'm curious.  If I am understanding the premise of salting, how could
that be appied to the railroads?  It seems salting is more along the
lines of getting certain people hired in non union companies with a
small to moderate number of employees, and that once employed by those
companies they are able to bring that company to their knees by using
union tactics.  Since these companies generally do not have deep
pockets they are forced to either close or become union.  As you know,
the railroads are already unionized and they certainly have deep
pockets.  I am interested in how we can apply that in our "business."
 Suggestions please?

I stand by my "lay low and keep the target off your back mentality"
until it can be once again proven that the unions can sucessfully fight
for us and win a majority of the battles.  Again, that will only happen
when we can clean out those who hold the power within the unions who
are in their position for their own benefit.  I think you have mistaken
me for a local chairman and I have a little bit of power.  I'm not, but
when I am I will absolutely drive the union officers above me crazy with
my persistence.  At this time, I will not be sticking my neck out only
to get it chopped off by the company.  When the union decides it will
support me in that endeavor then my plans will change, but the last I
knew the union wasn't paying my bills.  Speaking from experience, I
have been homeless before, have had to depend on someone else for basic
living expenses, and I can assure you it is not a pleasant place to be. 
Have you ever been homeless?  If not, then you are not qualified to
suggest to me to do anything to endanger my livelihood.

Does the name Roger Griffith mean anything to you?  I don't know him
personally, but I have read his website.  How accurate what he reports
is I don't know, but it sure seems he was one guy trying to make a
difference only to be held back.  Do a search on him sometime.  Let me
know what you think.  He is still active in his quest.

You seem very anxious to bring the solidarity and fight back to the
UTU.  I applaud that.  Please give me a few examples of how you plan to
do that?  If you have any good ideas on getting people to the union
meetings then please share them.

Thank you for responding to my posts.  I hope you realize we are on the
same side.  There's nothing better I would like to do than see the
railroad unions become powerful once again.  I don't believe that in
this current political climate and the lack of support from the union,
jumping wildly into a fight with the carriers will gain us anything
other than a few more of us on suspension or even worse, out in the
street.  Don't forget to vote on November 7.

Signed,
Nutless

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 October 2006

In a way the unions are changing. We had a shake up in our general
committee the first act of the GC was he moved the offices out of
Jacksonville. To many years the GCofA was coddling with the carrier
those LC that visited were flabbergasted by what they saw the general
secratary to busy polishing and working on his boat, the black hole a
closet that claims laid dormant till they were useless, CSX labor
relations officers using our computers to conduct business the list
goes on. The damage done is repairable, but it'll take time.
Interesting thing we learned recently when the new GC visited that
after the 1996 CSX BLE on-property contract meetings were to be held
every month to sort out issues, none were ever held. Don Menefee prime
example he was one of the three stooges during the 1996 negotiations
along with Roy and Smith you see where he is at working for the
carrier. Menefee supporters say he was a victom of a nasty political
campaign and still support him. I'd say he was a victom of his own
incompetence.

Name: Sponge Bob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 October 2006

I am a conductor on a regular assigned local.

  I too have had many claims (100% valid) not B.S. claims declined by
either The Trainmaster, or Payroll (Fred Marshall in particular).

  I have learned to let my Local Chairman handle the claims, even
though most will never be paid. I do however get a great deal of
satisfaction by hosing CSX on a regular basis.  Curious are you? well
here's some ways to stick it to em.

1, When doing work for a customer that is'nt on the OBWO device, guess
what-it's all free to the customer-I don't report it so CSX does'nt
get paid. I don't mean pulling or spotting cars, but respotting,
weighing or moving cars around in their industry.

2, Don't be lazy, thoroughly inspect every car car you pull from a
siding or industry for a Class 1 air test.  Chances are, you can find
something wrong with about 20% of the cars.  A car set out costs CSX
money, the carman has to repair it, and the car isn't on the road to
its destination.

3, Dog law every train possible,  a relief crew costs CSX another crew
start and delays the train=lost revenue.  

4, Thoroughly read your dispatcher bulletins, general bulletins, and
notices for every sub. you operate on while beginning your trip. This
drives the trainmaster and yardmaster nuts.  Do not let them rush you
out the door, if they try call your local chairman, or go to the
restroom, lock the door and come out about 30 minutes later,(tell em
you had the shits).

5, Walk very slowly, no one will say anything to you for walking slow.
If they do, tell them the walking conditions are dangerous.

6, Report injuries, run-thru switches, derailments, Haz-Mat leaks, and
other serious FRA violations to the FRA (anonomously).  A lot of the
FRA inspectors are quite friendly with the CSX officials.  You would be
amazed at waht CSX covers up, when you call the FRA do it from a Pay
phone or calling card. Give them the train # the location, date and
time, and what happened. NOTE: wait 10 days from the occurance to
report it so the train crew won't be written up or charged.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 October 2006

As an after thought to my post last night:

I think we all agree that Unions are less than ideal, and their primary
and secondary concerns seem to be taking care of themselves and family
members first and the general membership last. What's wrong with that,
it's our  primary concern as well!

They are far to close to the carriers not to have an apparent conflict
of interest, in my opinion. I am still pissed that they settled the
last contract prior to finalizing Health & Welfare. I would have never
voted to accept it had I known that it was going to end up costing me
$100/month of net income.

I am not upset about sharing the cost of my H & W., in this day and age
of spiraling health care costs, with my employer. It would be naive to
expect that to continue much longer and when you consider what others
pay, it's really not too bad.

The UTU in this case blew it by settling the contracts in reverse
order, thereby costing the membership. And when you consider that your
dues went up... This was a case of the union telling the membership
what was best for them and ignoring their best interests, Hopefully
this time will be different, after all we have a new regime.

Enough about that, The UTU and, I am sure, the other unions have a PAC
(Political Action Committee) which represents the members interests
directly to members of congress, state legislatures and local
governments. This is as, or maybe even more important than any
thing else the unions do and they do a superb job. Look at the changes
in Railroad Retirement that have allowed openings for all the new hires
over last several years and other issues like safety, 
HOS and many more that affect rail employees.

The better funded these PACs are the better the job they can do
representing our interests before the men and women whom will
ultimately decide our future. Please don't think that your job is not
POLITICAL, it is, and you might just wake up one morning and be
game-fully unemployed.

One way to participate in the union is to contribute to your union's
PAC. If your are currently contributing it may be time to reevaluate,
things like this tend to be forgotten about. The amount is really
unimportant. I gave $1/day, which was the difference between my dues
and $100/month back in 05/01. Last time my dues were held out(12/05) it
was $108.45

The LCs can do a better job than they do in this regard. For example,
and these numbers date to 02/04, my local in Mobile had 109 active
members, 11 contributed to the PAC in the amount $50.45/month or
$605.40/year which averages $0.46/member/month. If you subtract my
contribution, the average drops to $0.185/member/month which is
abysmal. If every member gave just $1/month, total contribution would
increase 116% to $1308.00/year.

I urge all my union brethren to contribute. Please don't take food off
the table but contribute what you can comfortably afford, $1,5,10 a
month or more. The carriers PACS are well funded and you never bring a
knife to a gun fight! It will pay dividends in the long run and the
question becomes, can you afford not to?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 September 2006

Hey sklucas:

I totally agree that it takes unity and progressive leadership to get
things done. Sometimes you have to deconstruct before you can
reconstruct. 

If CSX were a progressive company a union might not be necessary, but
as we know, it's not and we are left at the mercy of unions that are
not truly effective. The primary reason for this, in my opinion is
apathy by the membership. 

First and foremost, union membership has been declining for decades,
the result of an improved relationship between labor and management and
more balanced and friendlier laws enacted by our national, state and
local leadership over the last 100 years. I live in Alabama, a right to
work state, as are the vast majority of the states in the South, Great
Plains and West, They have no history in regard to the labor movement.
In the states with a rich history of labor activism, Ohio, PA., NY,
MA,. etc. the movement is ebbing.

Secondly but perhaps more importantly, it seems the vast majority of
members just don't care or at least care enough to participate. The
UTU local here as about 125 members representing 2 railroads. Meeting
are held at 5 PM the first Monday of the month except holidays. Out of
say 10 possible meeting a year, enough members to constitute a quorum
show up 5 maybe 6 times. The members that do come are always the same
and have a little age. The new guys just don't care! The BLET meetings
are much better attended and the members more active.

I personally believe the operating crafts would fare better if they
were represented by one union. However, as long as their different
crafts, there will be separate, but equally ineffective representation.
In the not too distant future, there will be but one craft, so plans
need to be in place when that occurs. 

In the meantime we must make the current system work for us. I think
the best way to do that is have as close to 100% participation as
possible. That is a function of the locals leadership, when new hires
come into the yard they need to be sat down and TAUGHT what the
contract allows and doesn't allow. The local agreements, pay claims,
their responsibilities as members, etc. In most locations the new hires
are expected to learn this through osmosis, they get frustrated and
become apathetic.

Unions are fraternal organizations. I see nothing wrong with spending
some of the members dues for a little socializing after the meetings if
it would improve participation!

Name: sklucas
E-mail: suzannak@sbcglobal.et
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 September 2006

Dear Nutless,

Boy if you only knew how wrong you are about me.. Trainmaster or
Roadforeman..not a cold day in hell.  You say you were a shop steward
for I.B.E.W??? Well if you were a good one then you would know my
father(Michael Lucas) Yes the one and only. Still teaching all over the
counrty. The father of salting...My Mentor
Unions are full of dirty money hungry two faced theives.We all know
that. BUT THEY ARE ALL WE HAVE. If we had none I would hate to think 
what csx would do to us. When I was a chief union steward UAW/AFT I had
no problem stepping on the toes of my district Reps when they wanted to
horsetrade my grievences under the table.  They tried to remove me from
my position but the members rallied in my behalf because I busted my
butt for them. They didnt stand a chance. I lost 2 grievances in 4
years. Some of the ways I won them I can say Im not to proud of, BUT I
WON. That was the point. Take care of my fellow brothers and sisters.
You have to rally and make a stink from hell when your International
reps are becoming worthless. It puts the spot light on them. They dont
like it!! They have to put their money where their mouths are. They
either have to order you to knock it off or come in and back you! They
dont want bad press or charges of not representing their members to the
best of their abilities or in good faith. So my point... Dont tell the
members to lay low and hide with their tails between their legs. 
Encourage them to group in masses. When they start screwing with the
ones with bumper stickers charge them with harrassing you for
exercising your right to support your union and organize freely(section
7). Make the union come in and stand by you. You seem to have forgotten
they were the ones who put the sticker out. CSX is so shorthanded I
dont think they would be stupid enough to pull everyone with bumper
stickers out of service for bogus charges.  But hey....Who knows!!! Let
the games begin

Name: nutless wonder
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 September 2006

Philly Vice

You bet there are a lot of people out here who have the "lay low and
keep the target off your back mentality."  Have you ever wondered why
you have this at CSX?  Let me explain it to you if you and sklucas are
too dense to realize it.  Before I do so I should "qualify" myself
seeing that you (a supposed Philly vice and sklucas as a union steward)
chose to do so.  After all, isn't that what a good and knowledegable
writer should do to make themselves believable?  I to am a former shop
steward with the IBEW, for many years before coming to work for CSX.

The main reason why most of us out here have that "lay low and keep
the target off your back mentality" is the railroad unions are
incapable of protecting us in 75% (and that is generous) of any
diciplinary actions the carrier charges us with.  Couple that with the
unions inability to reverse some of the "policies" the carriers have
forced upon us.  For example, look at the attendance policy we are
forced to endure.  Does it, or does it not, go against what our
CONTRACT says?  I believe it does, so my question to you is why is it
taking so long to get this ironed out by the unions?  Do you not think
years of battling over this with the carriers is a wee bit too long? 
Over that time I have seen men and women put out on the street for
lengths of time from five days to 15 days.  Again, why is it taking so
long to make them honor our union contract?  It seems to me that the
good men and women of our unions should grab the unions bull by the
horns and get that mess taken care of before many of us will feel
reasonably secure to take on the carriers horns.

OK, now why is this happening?  We have some very good people in the
unions, both as members and as officers.  My current local chairman
seems to do a good job but he can only do so much without the support
of the officers above him.  It is almost like he is on his own.  Now, I
don't know if that type of behavior is specific to my local but I'm
willing to bet given the state of affairs our union is in that it is
probably widespread.  Another problem as I see it is the high rate of
local chairman turn over.  Again, I don't know if this is going on
railroad wide but I suspect it is.  Some of our past local chaiman have
gone on to "bigger and better" things within the company.  Hell, even
Menafee did didn't he.  By the way, where is ole Byron these days? 
Must be time for him to get out isn't it?  My point is...these union
positions should not be used as a stepping stone to management. 
Doesn't that make you wonder just what type of person we are putting
our trust in to fight for us?  Who knows, maybe Philly Vice and sklucas
will be trainmasters or road formen of engines in the future.

Look guys, I know I am negative about the unions and that is a shame,
but ya' know why me and most of my fellow workers are that way?  We
don't TRUST you to work on our behalfs.  We see other members
harrassed on a daily basis, we see our legitimate time claims denied
every two weeks, we see friends diciplined when they dhouldn't be, we
see our questions go ananswered when asked, we see our leaders jailed
and taking management positions, and we see a big mess.  Now you come
along and want us to draw negative attention to ourselves by putting
bumper stickers on our vehicles.  What would have worked better would
have been asking us to put them on the locomotives.

There are several paths to progress that our unions need to take in
order for the members to follow you blindly.  First, you need to
install faith in us in the system again.  Most of us would do anything
you ask as long as we have faith in your ability to protect us against
needless harrassment and intimidation.  Second, you have to stop the
infighting.  The only way to do that is get rid of those who are using
the union office as a stepping stone to management or are part of the
"good ole boy" system.  I think it is next to impossible to break
into the middle to upper union management due to the good ole boys
looking out for each other.  I know, I have tried.  Thirdly, our unions
have to become more proactive than reactive.  How can we, as a union,
advance our cause while we are always trying to put out fires from
within and from the carriers?

One more thing.  Grow up.  The members you are calling nutless are the
same ones you are asking to do something for you.  Now tell me, given
the varieties of human nature, how do you expect anyone to follow you?

In closing, I believe the railroad unions can be a very strong voice in
labor, if only we could clean up our act and win the faith of the
brothers.  November 7th is coming.  How many of you are registered to
vote and will actually do so?  Remember, there is no such thing as a
union friendly republican, I don't care who he is.  It's high time to
get tough with the carriers.  You union leaders clean up your act, show
us you are capable of representing us, and I can guarantee you will
have more support than you ever dreamed possible.  It used to be that
way, there's no reason why it can't be again.

Signed,
Another Nutless Wonder

Name: Philly Vice
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 September 2006

Suzannah,

Keep up the good work, baby. The problem with this RR is too many
people have the "lay low and keep the target off your back"
mentality. I'm glad there are still a few people with a set of nuts
who wont hesitate to grab the bull by the horns and shake him around a
little. Sometimes these guys in payroll, crew management and labor
relations need a small reality check from time to time as a reminder
that they aren't invincable. I'm glad to see you stand up for
yourself. Maybe a few of the "men" in your terminal will follow your
example and start standing up for themselves instead of hiding under
the blanket holding their teddy bear.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 September 2006

Hey sklucas:

Based on what I've seen, the supervisory and management personal are
above the law when it comes to the ethics code of CSX. They routinely
lie, cheat and steal. Look at the number of run through switches that
go unreported(thank god). On occasion, one will get busted and fired,
or should I say transferred, at the same pay grade, while we can get
terminated for inadvertently taking a crew pack home.

I wonder how many retired managers and supervisors are still doing work
for CSX at inflated prices or with contracts which weren't
competitively bid? I know of at least one!

Have an ethical CSX day...

Name: sklucas
E-mail: suzannahk@sbcglobal.net
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 September 2006

As a seasoned union steward I have been taught to think differently than
most(UAW trained) When a claim is paid and then garnished the payroll
department has openly admitted that they made an error. SO it is safe
to assume that their records are not correct unless they can show why
they paid it in error in the first place(which is still an omission of
inaccurate record) My claim became an ethics issue because they were
stupid enough to make actual comments on my earning statement in
regards to the claim. They openly admitted in so many words that they
didnt know what the hell they were doing.  Im my apology letter they
stated that they spoke to the subordinates in the department who
handled by claim and they were handled appropriately.  The party who
sent me the letter also stated that the department had confused my
claims as Road claims and not yard.  Bullshit!! They were yard tower
operator and hump button pusher claims.  Once again they admitted in
writing they dont know what they hell they are doing. Or they are just
bad liars. So target or not I will continue to send this info forward,
WHEN I KNOW I have the facts because Ward has stated in his ethic codes
he expects it. Now if a couple hundred people a week would do this to
him and flood his mail room i think it would become quite annoying.
Ward wants 100% rules compliance, GIVE IT TO HIM!!!  I have to wonder
if an IRS audit is overdue????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 September 2006

I agree with my LE counterpart.  DO NOT write to anyone in the MGT.
chain.  It will only hurt you.  You will not do anything to the MGT.
team or anyone in timekeeping.  Take the issue up with your union rep
and let the labor board sort it out.  It is far better to wait for your
claims to be paid than to have timekeeping make a major error with your
pay (hmmm...how did that happen) and for crew callers to start playing
with you as well.  Keep a low profile and your career will be alot
easier.  Play the game.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 September 2006

Do you like your job on the railroad? You must remember your a contract
employee and denied claims must be handled through the union. You can
submit all the claims you want, paying them then taking them back is
nothing new. Welcome to the club. Is it frustrating? Why certianly. A
trainmaster locally can approve a claim and payroll can deny it, that
happens all the time. You don't resubmit it you turn it over to your
local chairmen. Writing letters to Mikey Ward might not be a good
thing, it might make you feel better, then again it might put a
bullseye on your back.

Name: sklucas
E-mail: suzannak@sbcglobal.net
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 September 2006

Have a denied claim that you KNOW for a fact is good???Go to employee
gateway(csx)and bring up Michael Wards codes of Etics. Look under the
investors section. It is subtitled Accurate and complete books,records
and accounting.
it states: EVERY CSX director, officer and EMPLOYEE(you) must help
ensure that reporting of business and financial
information-computerized,paper or otherwise- is ACCURATE,COMPLETE AND
TIMELY. This includes accurate recording of costs,revenues,time
sheets,vouchers,bills,PAYROLL AND BENEFITS records and regulatory data,
among other business information.
I had a claim paid and then garnished from my pay. I resubmitted it
continuosly 4 times. they paid me 4 times and took it away from me 4
times. What a joke! The last time they denied it and took it out of my
pay they stated on my earning statement that it had already been paid!
So,I copied all info I had and typed my letter to Michael Ward and made
copies of the same for Munoz and sent it all registered letter to Ward
and told him that his staff was in violation of his own ethic codes. 
Payroll did not have accurate records and that I was assuring that he
was notified. several weeks letter I got my blow off letter with
apologies from the head of payroll for my mistreatment and of cource
the claim denied. They advised me to take it up with my union next
time. Well I got news for them. IT IS NOT A UNION ISSUE. A violation of
Wards codes of ethics is an innerdepartmental issue that should be
brought to light by the employee who knows. Other employees freaked
when they knew I did this. It is Wards law!! He wrote it himself. It is
your duty to bring it to his attention. Get the hint??

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: rpines@pining.net
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 September 2006

Guys I'm really fucked up.  I woke up again this morning thinking about
going out back and giving the pig a squeal.  But I needed to take a dump
and found myself digging in the toilet again.  I'm not sure what to do.
 Do you think your employee help line may help me?  I know I am not an
employee but I feel like since I dribble on with myself with all of the
RR stuff and all.  I feel like your my brothers and sisters.  I need
help.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 September 2006

With the garbage that was posted last night all credibility has been
lost from this website.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: rpines@asshole.com
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 September 2006

My name is Robert Pines.  I like to bend over and take it up the ass
hard.  Please plug me in the ass.  Plug me in the ass, plug me in the
ass.

I miss my Wife.  I am Pining over her.  I miss her yeast infected twat
the most.  She was killed by a choo choo train and I cry at night.  I
like to blame stupid engineers for her death.  But the sad reality of
it is she was a stupid cunt who did not stop, look and listen and now
her cunt ass is gone.  Too, bad I miss her twat.  My pig Betty Sue and
Sheep Georgia and Lamby are no comparison to my wifes slop slot.

Name: guess who 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 September 2006

zz top and diesel we miss you two no nipple rubbin without us.

Name: Newbie Doobie
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 September 2006

I was told by my LC that the SHIP program was for the bottom 1% piece of
crap old heads who didn't work by the rules, and if I followed the
rules I had nothin to wurry about...Hey, 100% rules compliance works
for me, I get paid either way.

Newbie Doobie in VA.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 September 2006

Not to be fooled. Pines never sent that last post. Been reading this
stuff for years and it was not Pines
GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 September 2006

Sorry, buring that assholes post.

Name: Boogie Man
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 September 2006

Don't curse the new hires and the latest direct hiring system just
yet.

There are strings attached for going back to the direct hire system.
First off, the new hires are only paid $100 per day for the 26 weeks of
training. That is a $350 take-home pay check every week. They only get 2
chances at the GIT test, and their 60 day probationary period doesn't
begin unitl after they pass the test and mark up. That gives the RR
more time to decide if they want to fire them or if someone considers
them a "High Risk" employee under the "SHIP PROGRAM" which anyone
who has read a bulletin board or been to a union meeting knows what I
am referring to.

Name: Pines
E-mail: scat@yahoo.com
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 September 2006

For all,

I got up feeling horny this morning. While having coffee I felt the
sudden heavy urge to shit. I held it, the feeling passed. I thought I
should get a few things together. But this was obviously going to be a
shit morning. No escape.

The very thought of a shit morning increased the shit urge. I got some
newspaper, poppers and a good shit story and went into the shower room.
I put the paper on the floor and the Shitlist story on a shelf - at eye
level when squatting. I took a popper hit and started reading to get me
started. I was squatting with my legs wide open. I felt the shit move
down my chute and push out of my hole. It moved heavily and slowly, the
relief was great. It curled down onto the paper in one movement - one
large thick soft turd. Deep brown, creamy looking with softer shit that
had fallen to the side. Fresh smelling and rich, I picked the paper up
and put the whole thing on the shelf in front of me. I stared at it and
jerked myself. I took a short snort of popper, felt the rush and took a
piece of soft shit from the side and clapped it onto my dick. I love
using shit as a thick lubricant. My dick and balls were all browned up,
my dick just a thick coat of brown. I started to read the story again -
a solo action story not unlike what I was doing - that made it all the
more exciting. I continued jerking off. 

Staring at the shit I moved in closer, got my nose right onto it,
smelled that fresh warm shit smell. I put my tongue out and licked
across the turd on the top. It was warm and pasty, I licked again,
deeper this time, getting more shit into my mouth. I tasted the bitter
brown of the turd. I had to have more. It just got me going. I moved my
mouth onto the shit, opened and closed down on the turd, pulling it into
my mouth. Some fell onto my chest and rolled onto my dick. My mouth was
filled with my own shit. I chewed down on it and sucked it in and out.
I wanted that popper rush again so I snorted deeply, stared at the shit
and with the rush pushed my face full into the shit. The shit was thick
and my face was totally buried in it. My hand moved down to start
beating my dick, I stood up and moved to the mirror. I had no face just
a brown pile of shit - my fcae felt hot under the shit, I wiped a load
off and trailed it over my tits massaging it into them. It felt good.
Rubbing the shit into my dick felt better. I looked up at the mirror
and liked what I saw. I started beating off while looking at myself in
the mirror. My cum spattered against the basin and across the mirror. I
felt really trashed, filthy and that was the excitement, I guess.

Regards,

Pines

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 27 September 2006

Pines and I sent this info. to each other before we started our scat
play together.  This will give you an insight as to what Pines likes
and why he thinks the way he does.

Basics

What do you mean by scat or shit play?

[Puddles] The word "Scat" is derived from the ancient Greek word for
dung or excrement. The Jazz singing style is thought to be called scat
because the singers are just 'talking shit'. In the context of this
FAQ, however, Scat refers to sexual play involving shit.

Shit play encompasses a 'Brown Rainbow' of sexual desire. Some scat
players are only into the visual aspects, such as watching someone take
a dump or looking at an unflushed toilet while aroused. Many are into
smearing shit on their bodies. Some like to eat shit. Still others are
into 'Farming' or gathering shit from public toilets. For most it is
probably some combinatation of these activities.

Mentally it is multi-faceted as well. For some it is an extremely
intimate exchange between those involved, almost a sacrament. For
others it serves as the climax of a heavy BDSM or humiliation scene.
Even animal shit can be incorporated into scat play. Safe to say, if it
has to do with the intersection of shit and sex, it?s scat.

Do people REALLY do that?

[RedRight]Yes, they really do. If you go explore some of the sites I
list on my links page you'll find photographic proof.

Aww, come on! Are you crazy? That?s sick!

[Puddles] There are probably health-care professionals who will say
that even masturbation is a sick activity given the right motivation.
On the other hand, anything you do that you are comfortable with and
don?t find the need to impose or inflict on uninterested parties isn?t
sick. The biggest category of mental illness associated with scat is
probably the guilt that some people feel from doing it. 

If you are, say, missing work to go looking for shit sex, you do have a
problem. The shit, however, isn?t it. The problem is the obsessive
behavior and that could be focused on anything. Being into shit, in and
of itself, isn?t sick.

[RedRight] Personally, I don't think so. Personally, you might. We
could argue back and forth and probably never reach agreement. That's
OK, as long as we can also agree that if my behavior doesn't harm you
then you have no basis to try and control it. In short: Keep your laws
off my body.

Crazy? Define crazy. Outside societal norms? Certainly, and quite happy
being so. That's part of the fun. Being outside of societal norms,
however, is not, in and of itself, a bad thing. Society is arguably
enhanced and strengthend by a diversity of behaviors. Behaviors outside
the norm help define the norm. They are the societal equivalent of
mutations in the biological world. A certain amount is necessary for
healthy evolution and change.

How can that possibly be erotic?

[RedRight] I'm not sure I can really explain that. Fetishes and kinks
work below the rational level of our minds, down near the subconscious.
That's what gives them a lot of their power. A rational answer on a
kink or fetish will always miss the mark by a bit. None-the-less, I'll
try.

There are many aspects of shit that are erotic for afficianados. Many
of these are mental. For some the mere fact that it is so very taboo is
enough to eroticise shit play. Add to that the fact that shit is highly
symbolic, giving it a great mental kick. When you play with shit you
are manipulating a huge variety of symbols and metaphors, many of them
with powerful erotic content. For others, who find the exchange of
power erotic, the complete submission given by accepting another's
shit in or on yourslef is the key erotic element. For myself, there is
an element of challenge to shit play: it is hard sex. That challenge
is, in itself, erotic. Also, shit is an offering from deep inside the
body, making it very, very intimate. Finally, its association with the
anal region, a highly erogenous zone, adds to its erotic power.

On the physical side, shit also has some very attractive elements.
It's warm and squishy, like a fine mud on a hot summer day. The feel
of shit on your skin can be very sensous. Even the smell, which we are
programmed to dislike, avoid, and fear is actually an intense, rich,
complex odor that can have many erotic elements if you just let
yourself smell it.

Finally, perhaps the overriding element, the sum of all the others:
shit is INTENSE. Your whole body, your whole mind are wildly stimulated
when you get into it. 

Isn't shit poisonous? Won't it kill you?

[RedRight] No, it's not poisionous and playing with it generally
won't kill you.

[Puddles]

Are a lot of people into this?

[RedRight] That depends on what you mean by a lot. Scat is certainly
not the most common of fetishes or kinks, but it's a lot more
widespread than most people realize. Witness the fact that there are a
fair number of commercial sex sites dedicated to it. That means there
are a good number of people willing to pay to see it. The Scatsite
portion of the Redright web gets about 600 visitors a day and it's
just a relatively small, non-commercial site.

It's just a Gay thing, right?

[RedRight] Absolutely not! There are a lot more straight scat
enthusiasts than Gay ones. We Gay boys don't have the corner on the
market for perversion -- we just have more fun with it! 

Again, I turn to experience with my site: Early on I added about 50 Gay
scat pics to my website and they were moderately popular. Then I added
12 straight scat pics to my site. They were so popular they very
quickly started getting more traffic than the rest of my site combined.
I had to remove them because the traffic was overruning my site. 

An unscientific survey with the aid of a couple of search engines
showed that at least 80% of the web sites found in a search for "scat
sex" will be straight. That's gotta tell you something.

Is shit play illegal?

Are stories, videos, and pictures of shit play illegal?

Beginners

I really want to get into scat play but I can't get past the smell,
what can I do?

[RedRight] While there are things that can be done to moderate the
smell of shit you can't get rid of it. Stink is part of the essence of
shit. In general, what you must set out to do is to reprogram your brain
so that the smell is no longer unpleasant. How? Slowly. If you're
asking this question there there is already some aspect of shit that is
erotic to you. Work to build an association between that aspect of shit
and the smell.

Almost since birth, you've been brainwashed that the smell of shit is
a 'bad smell' (and that shit was bad in general). The smell itself
isn't really all that bad. All you have to do is gently undo that bad
programming you've unconsciously received and replace it.

The next time you take a dump and you're wiping, reach out with your
mind to that aspect of shit that is already erotic and, once you've
made that connection, take a good whiff of the dump you've just
dropped. Sniff the brown smear on the toilet paper and think your
favorite dirty shit thoughts. Your brain is a powerful associateve
engine. There are hundreds of little everyday exercises you can do to
build erotic associations with the smell.

For me a lot of the aversion to the smell of shit was just
unfamiliarity. My solution was to build familiarity. It's pretty
normal for me now to take a deep long whiff of my dumps. Farts too
provide great opportunity -- when someone blows a cloud in your
vacinity your reflex might be to hold your breath. Get over it! Smell
it -- there's treasure in the air!

I really want to get into scat play but I'm afraid of getting together
with someone and loosing it (puking, etc.). What can I do to prepare
myself?

What is meant by shit "farming"? (...and where can I get some
seeds!)

[Puddles] Farming is scat slang for collecting shit from public
sources. It is scat without the donor knowing. The ?Farmer? usually
traps shit in a toilet by turning the water off so it can?t flush or by
using devices that allow water to pass through, but retaining the shit.
Some farmers also search out beaches and parks were guys shit outdoors,
like surfers at the beach or party spots in large parks. Some farmers
have sophisticated ruses to get people to not flush the toilet. They
might pretend to be a janitor and telling the shitting person that
there is a plumbing problem. Some farming requires a lot of nerve, some
a lot of patience. Outhouse lovers may fall into the farming category.

[RedRight] I'll be selling the seeds in my new Yahoo on-line store
very soon... :)

How can I get the smell of shit off of my skin after a shit play
session?


Health

What are the health risks associated with shit play?

[RedRight] (Temporary answer whail I do a bit more research)

Here are some links to information on infectious agents of concern to
scat players:

Parasites and bacteria: shigella, giardia, e-coli.
Viri: Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C

[Puddles] Shit can contain things that can hurt and even kill you.
There are several infectious agents that can be passed in shit and are
of particular concern. Parasites are at the top of the list. Giardia is
common bacteria in the western US. I can?t say for the rest of the
planet, but, it is here. It is found in ground water and works its way
up. It is a bastard to kill too. E-coli gets a lot of press and is also
a concern. There are many strains of e-coli, most are perfectly
harmless, and some are only mildly dangerous. However, there are some
strong strains that have surfaced in recent years, from livestock and
their shit. They can make almost anyone sick, however they have only
been fatal to children, the elderly, and others who have compromised
immune systems. This is the same bug you can get from undercooked
meats. Hepatitis, a virus, is the other major concern. There are shots
for the more common A and B strains. A new strain, however, now
referred to as C can kill you by destroying your liver. Without a
transplant you will die. Think about how good your health insurance is
when you consider this one folks! I know I can?t get a new liver.

Is there anything I can do to protect my health before I get into shit
play?

[RedRight] (Temporary answer, copied from the Pig Pages Health Section)
You should have the Hepatitis A and B vaccine, as well as pneumococcal
(pneumonia) and a yearly influenza vaccine. You may even want to take
the thyphoid series of vaccines. 

It's too late for precautions, I played, I got sick, what do I do
now?

How likely is it that the HIV virus will be passed by shit play?

[Puddles] I don?t think it?s very likely. There are a few problems with
HIV transmission during scat sex that aren?t covered in most safer sex
guides. Gone are the days when we didn?t understand how the retro virus
worked. Now we know. It is a big fucker and not very good at taking care
of itself. HIV dies when exposed to oxygen. Temperatures below 70F or
higher that 120F kill it too.

If we were to blow up viruses to visible size you would see another
important aspect of HIV: it's big for a virus. If the Rhino Virus
which causes colds were the size of a penny, then HIV would be the size
of a large beach ball. 

You can?t catch a cold without exposing yourself to Rhino virus through
a mucus membrane. Most people get colds from breathing in Rhino Virus
and it passes into us through the mucus in our noses. It?s too big to
get through normal skin! Now imagine that beach ball HIV trying to get
in. It needs a special point of entry. You practically have to roll out
the red carpet. The easiest is injecting HIV directly into your blood
stream. Or exposing an absorbing mucus membrane to enough vital HIV to
allow it to survive being absorbed. Like your rectum or a woman?s
vagina. 

It becomes much harder to transmit via excreting membranes like your
mouth, nose, or urethra. The very act of excretion flushes HIV away.
The mouth, in particular, is a poor point of entry for the virus since
it is constantly excreting saliva, which flushes the HIV away.
Breathing also keeps the mouth well supplied with Oxygen -- a killer
gas to HIV.

So, during a scat scene there are few opportunities for HIV to gain
access to you. First, shit only contains small amounts of HIV and shit
isn?t a very hospitable environment for HIV. Most of the virus would
die. The shit would have to be pretty bloody for there to be enough HIV
for transmission.

Next, you?d have to expose your self to the bloody shit by shoving it
up your ass. (By the way, if your partner has bloody shit, stop playing
and call for an ambulance. Please.) Eating it probably wouldn?t provide
a good enough opportunity for it. Smearing it exposes it to the air and
kills it. So, I just can?t see where HIV transmission can occur in scat
play.

How do I know if it's safe to eat a particular guy's shit?

[Puddles] If your donor has disease it can be passed to you. With this
in mind consider who your partners will be in scat play. You should try
to know the health status and recent history of your tops/players. Many
of these ailments have symptoms. I would suggest not playing with
anyone who is ill, uses drugs habitually, or lacks basic hygiene
habits. Raunchy is cool, rotting might get you sick.

Production

What foods make the best shit?

What are some foods to avoid?

What kind of diet should I follow if I want to produce massive
quantities of shit?

[Puddles] Eat fiber. Lots of fruits and vegetables. The down side is
that they will be very soft. For hard turds reduce your fiber and eat
binding foods high in protein. People on the Atkins diet have very hard
shit. The down side is that there is less bulk to it. A top holding off
the urge may make bigger harder turds. The lower colon absorbs moisture
from your shit. Reclaiming the moisture your body added to lubricate
your food during digestion.

How can I control when I have shit to play with? // How can I be sure
I'll have shit for a shit scene?

I'm going to feed a beginner, what should I eat to make my shit easier
(blander, less stinky) for him to deal with?

I'm going to feed a real pig who craves abuse, what should I eat to
make my shit as fucking nasty as possible?

I don't have diarrhea, but my shit is usually pretty soft and mushy,
what can I do to firm it up?

Can shit be stored? How is it best done?

Community

Is there an off-line shit newsletter or contact rag?

Yeah, it's called Jack's #2 or The Shit List. (More information
coming soon.)

Is there an on-line shit mailing list?

Yeah, about a dozen of them. (More information coming soon.)

Are there other on-line resources for shit men?

Are there any venues that hold shit play parties?

[RedRight] Damn few. There are two that I know of, the most famous is
'het Vagevuur' in Eindhoven, the Netherlands. They have scat nights
every other month (currently on the 4th Saturday). The other is the
lab.oratory in Berlin where their motto is "dress dirty - play safe."
They have some sort of scat event every month.

Are there any scat clubs or organizations?

What IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channels are frequented by scat
players?

[RedRight] On EFnet you will find #gayscat and #gayraunch. #gayraunch
usually has more people on it but, as it's name implies, #gayscat is a
little more focused.

Shit Videos

Where can I get some good shit videos?

What is the story behind the classic "Dave's" "Basic Training..."
and "Life of Service..." videos?

[RedRight] Well, I only know a little of it. There are two series of
three tapes each. All the titles in one series start with "Basic
Training" and all the titles in the other start with "Feeding the
Hungry" They were made sometime in the 80's with tender loving care
by a handsome young guy named "Dave" from San Francisco. You can see
the list, and order them from the Dirty Boys on their video sale page
(http://www.geocities.com/the_dirty_boys/newdeal2001.html about halfway
down the page...)


By my measure, the movies are probably the best shit films out there.
The Federal Government, however, decided that this had to be stopped
and got Dave on tax evasion. 


He was actually sent to jail from what I heard. He is out now, and
living around SF, but, understandably, keeps a low profile. I would
love to talk to him someday. 


I, personally, have a special connection to the video "Basic Training:
San Francisco Style." It was my bridge from Fisting to Scat. There is a
scene in it where a pretty young blonde boy (who I later learned was
Dave, himself) gets fisted with a very full ass. Needless to say it
gets wonderfully messy. I was so disgusted I couldn't stop watching
it. I must have nearly worn out that spot on the tape. From there it
was just a short hop to starting to watch other parts of the tape -
starting my brown slide into scat. 


I have the pleasure of knowing two of the pigs featured in the videos
and I have always intended squeezing them for more info... Someday,
I'll have to get the whole story. For now, let's all just enjoy
Dave's legacy.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 27 September 2006

Comparison of bowel patterns in hispanics and non-Hispanic whites 

Abstract  Survey questionnaires can be used to characterize normal
bowel habits and the prevalence of bowel dysfunction. To determine
whether ethnic and sex-related differences in bowel patterns exist
between Hispanics and non-Hispanic whites, we conducted a survey of a
nonpatient population in El Paso, on the U.S.-Mexico border. A
forced-choice, self-report questionnaire was distributed to 1014
subjects and returned by 1000. Data from the 905 Hispanic and
non-Hispanic white subjects were compared. Stool frequency was analyzed
by multiple linear regression, and bowl dysfunction variables were
analyzed by stepwise logistic regression, in ethnic and sex groups.
Data were also analyzed controlling for age, socioeconomic status,
dietary factors, and use of laxatives. There was a significant sex
difference in mean number of stools per week reported (P<0.0001):
Hispanic males greater than Hispanic females (8.6 vs 7.5) and
non-Hispanic white males greater than non-Hispanic white females (9.3
vs 7.2). The frequency of irritable bowel syndrome-type symptoms was
greater in females than males (23.4% vs 9.6%,P<0.001) and was less in
Hispanics than non-Hispanic whites (16.9% vs 21.8%,P<0.05), but a
significant ethnic difference was not found after controlling for
covariates. Additionally, females reported more alternating bowel
pattern (44.0% vs 28.5%,P<0.001) and constipation (25.5% vs
12.4%,P<0.01) than males, and non-Hispanic white females more abdominal
pain than the other subgroups (P<0.05). Ethnic differences in dietary
factors that may be relevant to bowel function were identified. This
survey of a biethnic nonpatient population shows that, for both
Hispanic as well as non-Hispanic whites, males have a greater stool
frequency than females and there are sex differences in the prevalence
of bowel dysfunction. Hispanics did not differ from non-Hispanic whites
in stool frequency, while the finding of an ethnic difference in the
prevalence of irritable bowel syndrome requires further study for
clarification.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 September 2006

Rectal laxatives are used as enemas or suppositories to produce bowel
movements in a short time.

There are several different types of rectal laxatives and they work in
different ways. Since directions for use are different for each type,
it is important to know which one you are taking. The different types
of rectal laxatives include:

Carbon dioxide-releasing

Carbon dioxide-releasing laxatives (e.g., potassium bitartrate and
sodium bicarbonate) are suppositories that encourage bowel movements by
forming carbon dioxide, a gas. This gas pushes against the intestinal
wall, causing contractions that move along the stool mass.

Hyperosmotic

Hyperosmotic laxatives (e.g., glycerin; sodium phosphates) draw water
into the bowel from surrounding body tissues. This provides a soft
stool mass and increased bowel action.

Lubricant

Mineral oil coats the bowel and the stool mass with a waterproof film.
This keeps moisture in the stool. The stool remains soft and its
passage is made easier.

Stimulants

Stimulant laxatives (e.g., bisacodyl; senna), also known as contact
laxatives, act on the intestinal wall. They increase the muscle
contractions that move along the stool mass.

Stool softeners (emollients)

Stool softeners (emollient laxatives—e.g., docusate) encourage bowel
movements by helping liquids mix into the stool and prevent dry, hard
stool masses. This type of laxative has been said not to cause a bowel
movement but instead allows the patient to have a bowel movement
without straining.


Rectal laxatives may provide relief in a number of situations such as:


before giving birth. 
for a few days after giving birth. 
preparation for examination or surgery. 
to aid in developing normal bowel function following a period of poor
eating habits or a lack of physical exercise (glycerin suppositories
only). 
following surgery when straining should be avoided. 
constipation caused by other medicines. 
Some of these laxatives are available only with your doctor's
prescription. Others are available without a prescription; however,
your doctor may have special instructions for the proper use and dose
for your medical condition. They are available in the following dosage
forms: 

Rectal 
Bisacodyl 
Rectal solution (U.S. and Canada) 
Suppositories (U.S. and Canada) 
Docusate 
Rectal solution (U.S.) 
Glycerin 
Rectal solution (U.S.) 
Suppositories (U.S. and Canada) 
Mineral Oil 
Enema (U.S. and Canada) 
Potassium Bitartrate and Sodium Bicarbonate 
Suppositories (U.S.) 
Senna 
Suppositories (U.S. and Canada) 
Sodium Phosphates 
Enema (U.S. and Canada) 



Before Using This MedicineReturn to top 
Importance of diet, fluids, and exercise to prevent constipation

Laxatives are to be used to provide short-term relief only, unless
otherwise directed by your doctor. A proper diet containing roughage
(whole grain breads and cereals, bran, fruit, and green, leafy
vegetables), with 6 to 8 full glasses (8 ounces each) of liquids each
day, and daily exercise are most important in maintaining healthy bowel
function. Also, for individuals who have problems with constipation,
foods such as pastries, puddings, sugar, candy, cake, and cheese may
make the constipation worse.

If you are using this medicine without a prescription, carefully read
and follow any precautions on the label. For rectal laxatives, the
following should be considered:

Allergies—Tell your doctor if you have ever had any unusual or allergic
reaction to rectal laxatives. Also tell your health care professional if
you are allergic to any other substances, such as preservatives or dyes.


Children—Laxatives should not be given to young children (up to 6 years
of age) unless prescribed by their doctor . Since children cannot
usually describe their symptoms very well, they should be checked by a
doctor before being given a laxative. The child may have a condition
that needs other treatment. If so, laxatives will not help and may even
cause unwanted effects or make the condition worse.

Also, weakness, increased sweating, and convulsions (seizures) may be
especially likely to occur in children receiving enemas or rectal
solutions, since they may be more sensitive than adults to their
effects.

Older adults—Weakness, increased sweating, and convulsions (seizures)
may be especially likely to occur in elderly patients, since they may
be more sensitive than younger adults to the effects of rectal
laxatives.

Other medical problems—The presence of other medical problems may
affect the use of rectal laxatives. Make sure you tell your doctor if
you have any other medical problems, especially: 
Appendicitis (or signs of) or 
Rectal bleeding of unknown cause—These conditions need immediate
attention by a doctor 
Intestinal blockage—The use of laxatives may create other problems if
this condition is present 



Proper Use of This MedicineReturn to top 
For safe and effective use of laxatives: 

Follow your doctor's orders if this laxative was prescribed. 
Follow the manufacturer's package directions if you are treating
yourself. 
For patients using the enema or rectal solution form of this medicine:


This medicine usually comes with patient directions. Read them
carefully before using this medicine. 
Lubricate anus with petroleum jelly before inserting the enema
applicator. 
Gently insert the rectal tip of the enema applicator to prevent damage
to the rectal wall. 
Results often may be obtained with: 
bisacodyl enema in 15 minutes to 1 hour. 
docusate enema in 2 to 15 minutes. 
glycerin enema in 15 minutes to 1 hour. 
mineral oil enema in 2 to 15 minutes. 
senna enema in 30 minutes, but may not occur for some individuals for
up to 2 hours. 
sodium phosphates enema in 2 to 5 minutes. 
For patients using the suppository form of this medicine: 

If the suppository is too soft to insert, chill the suppository in the
refrigerator for 30 minutes or run cold water over it, before removing
the foil wrapper. 
To insert suppository: First remove the foil wrapper and moisten the
suppository with cold water. Lie down on your side and use your finger
to push the suppository well up into the rectum. 
Results often may be obtained with: 
bisacodyl suppositories in 15 minutes to 1 hour. 
carbon dioxide–releasing suppositories in 5 to 30 minutes. 
glycerin suppositories in 15 minutes to 1 hour. 
senna suppositories in 30 minutes, but may not occur for some
individuals for up to 2 hours. 
Dosing—

There are a large number of laxative products on the market. The dose
of laxatives will be different for different products. The amount of
enema or the number of suppositories that you use depends on the
strength of the medicine. Follow your doctor's orders if this medicine
was prescribed, or follow the directions on the box if you are buying
this medicine without a prescription.

Storage—

To store this medicine: 

Keep out of the reach of children. 
Store away from heat and direct light. 
Do not store in the bathroom, near the kitchen sink, or in other damp
places. Heat or moisture may cause the medicine to break down. 
Do not keep outdated medicine or medicine no longer needed. Be sure
that any discarded medicine is out of the reach of children. 


Precautions While Using This MedicineReturn to top 
Do not use any type of laxative: 

if you have signs of appendicitis or inflamed bowel (such as stomach or
lower abdominal pain, cramping, bloating, soreness, nausea, or
vomiting). Instead, check with your doctor as soon as possible. 
more often than your doctor prescribed. This is true even when you have
had no results from the laxative. 
if you do not need it, as for the common cold, ``to clean out your
system,'' or as a ``tonic to make you feel better.'' 
if you miss a bowel movement for a day or two . 
If you notice a sudden change in bowel habits or function that lasts
longer than 2 weeks, or keeps returning off and on, check with your
doctor before using a laxative. This will allow the cause of your
problem to be determined before it becomes more serious.

The ``laxative habit''—Laxative products are overused by many people.
Such a practice often leads to dependence on the laxative action to
produce a bowel movement. In severe cases, overuse of some laxatives
has caused damage to the nerves, muscles, and tissues of the intestines
and bowel. If you have any questions about the use of laxatives, check
with your health care professional. 

For patients using the enema or rectal solution form of this medicine:


Check with your doctor if you notice rectal bleeding, blistering, pain,
burning, itching, or other sign of irritation not present before you
started using this medicine. 
For patients using the suppository form of this medicine: 

Do not lubricate the suppository with mineral oil or petroleum jelly
before inserting into the rectum. To do so may affect the way the
suppository works. Moisten only with water. 


Side Effects of This MedicineReturn to top 
Along with its needed effects, a medicine may cause some unwanted
effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do
occur they may need medical attention.

Check with your doctor as soon as possible if any of the following side
effects occur:

Less common 
Rectal bleeding, blistering, burning, itching, or pain (with enemas
only)  


Other side effects may occur that usually do not need medical
attention. These side effects may go away during treatment as your body
adjusts to the medicine. However, check with your doctor if the
following side effect continues or is bothersome:

Less common 
Skin irritation surrounding rectal area  


Other side effects not listed above may also occur in some patients. If
you notice any other effects, check with your doctor.




Brand NamesReturn to top 
Some commonly used brand names are:

In the U.S.— 

Bisco-Lax1
Ceo-Two5
Dacodyl1
Deficol1
Dulcolax1
Fleet Babylax3
Fleet Bisacodyl1
Fleet Enema7
Fleet Enema for Children7
 
 Fleet Enema Mineral Oil4
Fleet Glycerin Laxative3
Fleet Laxative1
Sani-Supp3
Senokot6
Theralax1
Therevac Plus2
Therevac-SB2

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 September 2006

i believe that the pre 85 employees let  the post 85 's get all of the
perks on the last contract, any who.... yell at the utu not the ble it
was utu halloween agreement that caused this pay difference for future
reference yungun.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 September 2006

I'd like to see at least half of these newer conductors do 80% of the
work.  Heck, most of them sleep 90% of the time.  As the previous
poster said...don't threaten.  If you want us to back you then stay
awake, call signals, listen to what's going on around you, don't act
like you know it all, stay off your cell phones, get off the engine and
watch trains by, and above all, carry my grip...lol.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 September 2006

Typical new guy.  Ask for help then threaten.  I'll tell you about your
80%.  Go to a union meeting and ask questions!  LOOK on your UTU website
and READ your Section 6 notices.  Kids....

Name: whispercab26
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 September 2006

If there are any UTU local chairman reading this, I would like to know
if this next contract mentions new hire 80% pay. I hope and pray that
is not another concession. The 80% needs to go away,we are not doing
80% of the work. If CSX wants the trains to move they need to pay for
it. I know they would love to see the BLE and UTU gone and top pay of
15 an hour, across the board.  Soon the UTU and BLE will be ran by the
next generation of railroaders, the oldheads will retire and take their
pre 85 perks with them, and us newer guys will be left with one-man
crews and 80% wage freezes. I f the next contract caters to the pre
85ers and leaves the new people out in the cold,then those UTU officers
and chairman who are currently seated, will have no need to run for
reelection, because we will be taking names, and the next election
won't be pretty.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 September 2006

It's time the RR's buy out these old farts who gave away the farm for
the post 85 guys.  I'm sick and tired of these old farts whining and
complaining about having to do a set out or the hogger having to set
out or pick up power.  Most of these old farts are diabetic and fat and
could use some exercise.  Shit, just do the work.  The RR hired your ass
to work, not sit on the gravy train and reminisce about drinking beer
and cooking ribs on the caboose 25 years ago.  A different breed
nowadays Pops.  Grab your cane and say goodbye.  Let the greenhorns
pave the way and negotiate the new wages and time off without your
two-cents about the way it was back in 77.  Wake up Pops, it is 2006. 
Us NFG's do not give a shit about you or your retirement.  You did not
give a shit about us when you gave it away earlier.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 September 2006

he should have ran as far away from that and ran to the UP where they
pay you to be trained and do not cut your ass of the boards like csx. 
wrong move buddy.  you did not do your homework before giving your
money away.  i did and moved to denver from SC to join up with the UP. 
CSX sucks, this website proves it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 September 2006

Your young chalk it up as just a bad decision and quit if it bothers you
that much. Forget the money that's gone, it was your choice to spend it
and its your choice if you quit or get fired ect...

Name: matt
E-mail: chrisjones1vip@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 September 2006

hello, I a newby at CSX. a few months ago i began my CSX adventure and
decided to leave a "ok" job with "ok" pay and "ok" benifiets.
this adventure has cost me considerably, i paid $5,000 to go to school
and a few more thousand for living expenses. I have invested $8,000
dollars in a job that SUCKS!I can't believe CSX has employees willing
to work under such stupid rules and management scrutiny.OK OK these
rules are about saftey why should we complain, LOL yea right these
rules are made so CSX can find a way to FUCK you out of any
compinsation if do get hurt. I garuntee that if any employee(including
the dedicated CSX asskisser) get injured, the first and upmost
important thing CSX will do is find a rule YOU broke that makes YOU
liable for u're own injury, not them. The company simply sucks,  I
feel soory for the folks that work on CSX, guys with 25 years
constantly worried about minor violations and "getting fired". Well I
have 34 years before I can retire and I refuse to "work scared" for 34
years. My grip is history as soon as i find something else, good luck to
all that stay in hell. oh YEA ,MOST IMPORTANTLY I UNDERSTAND CSX NOW HAS
BEEN HIRING FOLKS WHO DIDNT GO IN DEBT FOR RR SCHOOL,   DOES ANYONE KNOW
A WAY I CAN GET BACK MY $$$ FROM THIS RIDICULAS COMPANY?????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 September 2006

Taken from railroad.net

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: AMDG is going bye-bye
  

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Just got word from a friend of mine that as of September 30th, 2006,
AMDG will no longer be the source of conductor trainees for the CSX
Albany Division. This has been confirmed by the director of conductor
training at the CSX headquarters in Jax. Locations like Richmond,
Philly, DC/Benning Yard, Brunswick and Baltimore are already direct
hire. 

The director also said CSX will go the direct hire method system wide
within the next 18 months. That's great news for me as I did not want
to cough up the $4-7K for the schooling after retiring from the
military next summer. I had originally ruled out CSX just because of
that, but can now consider them along with all the other big boys.
_________________
Ed 
AF Dude 

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject:    

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this is gonna leave alot of people royally pissed, including me. we
paid a substantial amount not counting 5 weeks of hotel living expense.
csx should come up w/ a rebate. i have no prob w/ amdg. my greatest
thanks to ron berben, tom bender, and jim presswood for an excellent
primer on professional railroading. our class met as strangers and left
as old friends.
_________________
Friends don't let friends drink crap beer...WARSTIENER HEFE WIESSE! 


Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject:    

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CSX might as well shoot themselves in the foot and be done with it.
This is a regression from everything that they have accomplished with
the school programs. Not to mention the decline in safety that will
surely follow because of lack of training. 


Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject:    

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the point is, they can likely hire their own instructors, and save
money not outsourcing. It is becoming harder and harder for guys to
just foot the 3000-5000 bucks whatever it is to be a trainperson.
People don't want to pay to have to go to work. I know you can argue
that people pay to go to college and to get degrees. I agree. But the
railroad can save money and that is what it is all about, and they can
train the employees to their standards and orientation instead of an
outside company.
_________________
Non-railroad visitor 
Interested in train sims and HO Scale as well as IL operations 


Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject:    

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the amdg program is based on csx. the workbook texts are from the csx
rulebooks. i would reccomend getting them to pre-study. if you plan on
working up north, download the norac signals from the amdg site, and
copy them onto index cards, have a spouse or whatever quiz you
frequently. everything else comes pretty easy. the sigs are a most
neccesary pain in the ... to remember
_________________
Friends don't let friends drink crap beer...WARSTIENER HEFE WIESSE! 
 
Back to top       
 


Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject:    

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the missing link wrote: 
this is gonna leave alot of people royally pissed, including me. we
paid a substantial amount not counting 5 weeks of hotel living expense.
csx should come up w/ a rebate. 


CSX doesn't owe you or me a rebate. We have something better than
those who will be paid to attend the school.....it's called seniority.
Being older in seniority is better and more profitable in the long run
in my opinion. Anyone else agree? 


Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:40 pm    Post subject:    

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Lmcgolf wrote: 
CSX might as well shoot themselves in the foot and be done with it.
This is a regression from everything that they have accomplished with
the school programs. Not to mention the decline in safety that will
surely follow because of lack of training. 


My son's employer found that the situation was quite the opposite. The
Choo-Choo U graduates they got rarely survived their student trips,
whereas the direct hires fared much better because they were trained
precisely the way the railroad wanted them trained. The Choo-Choo U
folks were being trained generically for 3 or 4 different railroads. 

My son was a Conductor/Coach for a year and a half before moving to the
other side of the cab, and said that the thing that amazed him most, and
the things which caused student conductors to leave/be fired was mostly
unrealistic expectations on the student's part, and poor work habits.


He would often stop by for coffee after a day's work and shake his
head over the antics of his student for that particular day. He said
that students would lay off sick and then act hurt and surprised when
the company demanded a doctor's note. Or student's that would show up
an hour late for a job and act confused that the train wasn't there
anymore. Hint for student conductors: they DON'T need you to run the
train and are very unlikely to wait for you. 

He said that students would show up without their radios, with dead
batteries, without their safety vest, without steel toed boots, and
sometimes, he thought, without their brains. 

I don't know what it is like at other railroads, but he enjoyed
coaching student conductors and was extremely committed to helping them
learn, be safe and fit in. And I think that was true of most conductors
on that railroad who coached students. 

My kid said that you could usually tell within a week or two of student
trips which ones would make it and which ones would take a hike
(voluntary or otherwise). 

He said to tell y'all that it can be a great career and he wishes you
the best. 

Mike 


Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject:    

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CSX Conductor wrote: 
the missing link wrote: 
this is gonna leave alot of people royally pissed, including me. we
paid a substantial amount not counting 5 weeks of hotel living expense.
csx should come up w/ a rebate. 


CSX doesn't owe you or me a rebate. We have something better than
those who will be paid to attend the school.....it's called seniority.
Being older in seniority is better and more profitable in the long run
in my opinion. Anyone else agree? 


i see your point there. on one side, if your serious enough to pony up
the money, theres more at stake, so one would have the natural tendency
to take it all the way through completion. 
if they don't charge, theyre gonna end up w/ a 50% washout rate, at
their own expense. everyone at my amdg class finished. 
i just think that after you've proven yourself for a few years, they
should kick something back.
_________________
Friends don't let friends drink crap beer...WARSTIENER HEFE WIESSE!

Name: Devastated
E-mail: honeybakedcoach@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 25 September 2006

Hello all, THIS IS THE STORY FOR THE AGES....And, you have all heard
this, I should have listened better....Anyhow, I am a young, 30
something UNEMPLOYED, CONDUCTOR CERTIFIED, almost suicidal ALMOST
employee of CSX. If any of you have heard anything like this before,
PLEASE EMAIL ME. 
About 6 months ago, I attended a "orientation" interview for a school
called AMDG. I aced the "tests" and was offered a "spot" in the very
next class to attend the "conductor school" and "guarantee" me a job
with CSX, as they told me ALL CONDUCTORS MUST ATTEND at CSX. Well,
BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT. I couldn't attend that class, as my father went
into a cardiac arrest right before the class started. I asked to attend
the next month's and was assured it would be ok. THREE months later, I
get a call that a spot is open, "hurry and get your payment, in the
amount of $5,000.00 and we'll hold it." So, I did. Borrowed the money
that is. Anyhow, I went ahead and started  the class 265 fucking miles
from home, for FIVE weeks, all food, room and board, etc. ON ME.
Resulting in another 4 grand. totalling 9000.00 dollars. After working
hard, passing the tests, I was given an "offer letter" from CSX. I
came home for 3 days, and off again to the "redi CENTER." There, at
the psuedo Nazi school, apparently someone did not like me, because on
Friday, THREE DAYS before graduation, I was brought into an office,
given a letter that stated no reason, and was told I was being sent
home that afternoon, "a couple bad quizes, which we were told did not
count anyhow, failure to check if a ladder was secure while crossing
over equipment, and violating rule G-8 a few times" I was told
"SORRY' Now, after being unemployed, borrowing $9,000.00, my
wonderful wife suffering and sacrificing at home all this time, I came
home. My friends, I don't even know how I am going to tell her. MY
LIFE IS AN ABSOLUTE LIVING HELL NOW, matter of fact, constant thoughts
are about just ending it anyhow, ALL BECUASE CSX decided, or someone
there, just didn't see eye to eye with me, I guess. Again, anyone that
has heard of something like this, PLEASE EMAIL ME. FYI, I was NOT caught
DRINKING at all, NO DRUGS, and did nothing more insubordinate or
inappropriate than everyone else there, I did make some mistakes
performing some job duties, simple stuff, but we were told thats what
we were there for. Also, about that first lie, that all new hires HAVE
to go to a school...There was a class starting while I was in ATLANTA,
every one of them were hired off the street, and the "Conductor
Class" was a couple rooms over, thats right the EXACT same class I
paid 9,000.00 dollars for , EXCEPT, these folks did not pay ANYTHING,
their hotel, food and transportation was provided by CSX as well. Good
luck to all, remember this story. This NIGHTMARE that occured because
of a couple arrogant CSX employees.

Name: ht long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 September 2006

yes gooby i can honestly say i believe that you got along fine with the
people in the trailer park,no doubt a that a man of your social status
would get all the free sex from the fat toothless neighbors while the
husband was out cadding !

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 September 2006

TO HTLong:
There you go thinking again! Every time that you do that you get in the
dumpster.
As you can see Your instructions on posting are as usual not worth
anything. No one is listening to the BIG E> Wonder why????

Go ahead and call em in the AM and see if you can get an early out. I
will give my part.

Was 7/11 your vocation when you were cut off, or was that just a side
job for your off days. Hell as a Fireman on a yard job it was easy to
sleep all night and work all day. Sorry I know that you already know
this stuff.

OH OH I almost forgot. I did have a trailer space when I worked for the
RR. But that was way before your time, I really liked the trailer park
when I was young, Had good friends and neighbors, got along well with
them. I know that is hard for you to understand, but there are good
folks everywhere.



GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 September 2006

These fucking asswipes make so much fucking money and deny us our claims
and monies due.  I hope all these faggot piss mother fuckers rot in
hell.

Ward, Michael J
Total Annual Compensation Long-Term 
Incentive Plan $22,686,292

Munoz, Oscar 
$8,526,203 

Gooden, Clarence W
$8,311,408

Fitzsimmons, Ellen M
$3,576,851

source:
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=CSX

Fuck these cocksuckers including that bitch Ellen the fat cow.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 September 2006

Stocks Prices 09/22 1601

CSX   30.57
NS    41.77
BNSF  68.72
UP    83.42
FEC   55.88

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 September 2006

Lehman Brothers downgraded rail freight company CSX Corp. (CSX.NYS) to
equal weight from overweight and peer Norfolk Southern Corp. (NSC) to
underweight from equal weight. 

The broker was broadly bullish on the sector. "We believe railroads in
general are almost fully discounting a historically recession-like
scenario amid improved industry fundamentals," it noted. 

But it added that CSX's recent share price performance means there is
less upside compared with others in the sector. 

Lehman Brothers added it expects Norfolk Southern to underperform other
railroads. 

-Simon Kennedy; 415-439-6400; AskNewswires@dowjones.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 September 2006

While your eating Macaroni & Cheese at home and bringing PBJ and your
runs, the higher ups are eating prime rib and having lunch catered to
them again:

INSIDER & RULE 144 TRANSACTIONS REPORTED - LAST TWO YEARS 
Date Insider Shares Type Transaction Value* 
15-Sep-06 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 370 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $32.05 per
share. $11,858 
15-Sep-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 25,000 Direct Sale at $32.65 per share. $816,250 
15-Sep-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 25,000 Direct Option Exercise at $16.0725 per share. $401,812

15-Sep-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Senior Vice President 5,332 Direct Sale at $32.65 per share. $174,089 
15-Sep-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Senior Vice President 5,332 Direct Option Exercise at $20.8907 per
share. $111,389 
15-Sep-06 BREAUX, JOHN B.
Director 292 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $32.05 per
share. $9,358 
15-Sep-06 RATCLIFFE, DAVID M.
Director 370 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $32.05 per
share. $11,858 
13-Sep-06 HALVERSON, STEVEN T
Director 410 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $30.47 per
share. $12,492 
13-Sep-06 ALVARADO, DONNA M.
Director 410 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $30.47 per share.
$12,492

Name: 
E-mail: wcmcclinton@yhoo.com
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 September 2006

we all know that csx is in business of transportation or railroading,
but I think that management of csx think railroading is not movement of
commodities but of employees. Let's start with hearings, or so called
disciplinary process used by the csx to determine if an employee has
committed one of the almighty sins, like use sick time that the company
has contracted for. (A) employee is charged by a company official
(B)company official reside over the investation(hearing offier)
(c)company official decide the fate of an employee.This gaves a new
meaning to fairness.

Name: HTLONG
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 September 2006

WELL GOOBIE,
I THOUGHT THE WORD BINGO WOULD PERK YOU UP ...FOR ONE RARELY MEETS
PEOPLE OF YOUR CALIBER OUTSIDE OF A BINGO HALL!!
    WELL EXCEPT MAYBE A TRAILER PARK.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 September 2006

To HTL 20-30- or more

Figures! 

You said the only thing that has made sense in many weeks.

GOOFY

Name: ht long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 September 2006

bingo !!! gooby

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 September 2006

To H T LONG
So you want us to read yours 6 times telling us not to do what you just
did. You are one control freak at best.
you are the picture of hogger conceit. I wonder at times how anyone can
get along with someone that is so self centered, and never stops to take
a breath, just BS and more BS about everything

GOOFY

Name: ht long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 September 2006

WHY DONT WE DISPOSE OF THE DIFFERENT POSTING FORUMS SINCE IT SEEMS THAT
EVERYONE MUST  LIST THEIR POST ON EVERY ONE OF THEM, JUST MAKE ONE!
COME ON GUYS WE DONT NEED TO READ YOUR POST 6 TIMES~

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 September 2006

I'm telling you, 100% rules compliance!  Comply with the rules. 
Inspect those engines.  Don't be lazy.  Tone up the dispatcher and ask
them if he wants you to inspect the units now or later when it is 0001. 
And when it comes time to go into the hole, inspect them.  Sign those
cards off.  Tag them out if there is a non-complying condition.  Do not
get off of moving eqpt.  Check those switch point once, twice and a
third time.  "Why so slow?" he may ask.  You say  "Well, I am
ensuring that there is not a human factor derailment by ensuring the
switch points are correct."  Open those knuckles.  Walk.  Job
Briefings.  Slow it down.  100% rules compliance.  That will wake there
ass up.  Give it a try.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 September 2006

You don't even need a sick out.  All you need is a slow down, a system
wide slow down!  Nobody has to strike and break the law, and nobody has
to mark off sick and break the company policy, just work safe and by the
rules.  Selkirk was the perfect example a while back.  Just think if it
were system wide, and it would be so easy to do with just a little bit
of unity.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 September 2006

Lets blame the unions for everything and not a PEB or congress.

Do you really think the union is responsible for the loss of:

Telegraph Operator
Station Agent
Crossing Watchman
Express Agent
Tower Operator
Tower Clerk
Fireman
Flagman
Head Brakeman
Rear Brakeman


These were dead jobs that were replaced by modernization. Just like the
navigator on commercial jets was replaced by radar and GPS. Steam has
been dead since the late 1940's why should a business like the RR pay
for a fireman to sit and ride a diesel engine all day 40 years later in
a time when the RR's were in a financial crisis and going bankrupt left
and right. You have to remember your history, when everyoen struck in
the mid 80's the ol Gipper imposed a PEB and told congress (Republican
controlled) to hand us a contract based on the reccommendatins of the
PEB. The Van-Wort commission within the PEB found that there were many
"antiquated work rules" in the labor contracts (i.e. engine changing
pay, road day was 100 miles, etc) and they also ruled that due to the
elimination of cabooses and the use of EOT's there was no need for a
flagman and a rear brakeman or a fireman. 

There was no vote on the Halloween agreement, it was take it or leave
it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 September 2006

i think if everyone would stop whining and get together and mark off
sick for two or three days the company will stop this insane crap but
we all have to stick together everybody ble and utu.you here everybody
say we cant strike we will go to jail blah blah ok are they gonna take
everybody to jail no.so lets get together and SICK OUT.

Name: tim
E-mail: tspielman@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 September 2006

i need some honest people iam 19 and thinking about picking the railroad
as a career ...is a train conductor a good living?....i feel all of your
pain about unions i have a crappy one myself! please email me your ideas
 thank you
tim

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 September 2006

Does anybody know about the Railway Institute at UNF in Jacksonville? 
Like when did it start and the list of instructors there.  Is it worth
the money?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for N/A
Posted: 12 September 2006

Do you know what I think?

Hoffa Lives!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 September 2006

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/russert-watch-roves-fis_b_17187.html?p=2

Let's try a round of what I like to call "Six Degrees of Meet the
Press."

George Allen mentioned Clean Coal on Meet the Press today. Meet the
Press sold advertising time to LearnAboutCoal.org, a Clean Coal
proponent. The "non-profit" and "non-partisan" Learn About Coal
organization's website domain name is registered to CEED, the Center
for Energy and Economic Development. CEED's vice chairman is Michael
Ward. Michael Ward is the chairman and CEO of the CSX Corporation.
Guess who used to be the chairman and CEO of CSX? Treasury Secretary
John Snow. Who was the chairman of CSX/Sea-Land under Snow? David
Sanborn. In January of this year, David Sanborn was nominated by
President Bush as the next Administrator of the Maritime Administration
(Dept. of Transportation). Who does Sanborn work for right at this very
minute? Dubai Ports World, which acquired CSX's ports for $1.15
billion in 2004. And finally, who introduced David Sanborn's
nomination in the Senate? Senator George Allen.

So that was more like 10 degrees. 10 shameful degrees forming a Mobius
Loop of financial and political incest.

Meet the Press and George Allen need to come clean about who they're
in bed with. In the interest of being their own persons, of course.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 September 2006

Your at the mercy of crew callers and managers.  Get over it.  Accept
the fact that your a low life piece of shit who the RR will eventually
pay an hourly rate of $8.00 an hour, work you from Florence to Los
Angeles while sleeping in the second motor and back, allow you to go
home for 8 hours to see the wife and kids and do it all over again. 
You better like it.  BOHICA kid.  

Bend
Over
Here
It
Comes
Again

BOHICA

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 September 2006

Ya'll come on this website with some of the damnest things I've ever
read. You thought that furloughs couldn't happen because of a
contract? Which one? If people get hired then furloughed I guess that
is CSX incompetence not the unions. The union doesn't hire anyone, so
I don't get your point. Try going to a union meeting learn some facts.
As for the 'fat' LC if he's down at the lake every weekend good for
him, if you don't like it vote him out. Never mind you never go to
union meetings. You want change quit bitching and step up to the plate
and run for office in your local.

Name: Florence Service lane
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 September 2006

First off let me say that the utu and the ble are fucking jokes! Our
local chairman for utu road is a fucking joke. Can't get him on the
weekends cause his fat ass is at the lake drunk or got his head stuck
up the wolfe mans ass, and the local chairman for the florence yard
can't get him either him and his cross eyed bald headed buddy are of
in los angeles learning to be better union reps! yeah right they are
out there spending my fucking 120.00 a month i pay union dues.  The
unions don't have a clue at whats going on in florence, they are
steady hiring new conductos and when they get out of training
furloughing them. I thoght by contract we could not be furloughed
according to the union.  But who the hell knows u cant get a straight
answer out of anyone at this railroad.

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 September 2006

to lowest on the pole,
what is happening in buffalo has been happening all over the rr for
years, its called protecting your seniority.
the bigger your senoirity district the better your job security.
i was laid off over 10 years while they were hiring on the district 75
miles away, i sure do wish my district covered that one way back when,
i would be retired by now.
the rr life isnt easy, if you want 9 to 5 with weekends off, dont come
here.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 September 2006

Ya'll cry for the unions, but if that work is in your seniority
district your screwed. I read an application an it specifically states
there is a possibilty that applicant may have to travel distances to
work. What did ya'll think that meant?

Name: lowestontotempole
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 September 2006

RE:
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 September 2006

Brother, Florence may have issues, but the Albany Division ( old
conrail ) has issues too.

why just recently were engineers from Buffalo Ny sent across the state
300 miles to Selkirk???

Then just today I hear new hire conductors are being sent from Buffalo
to freik'n Boston Maaaasachusettes?

wtf

when you hire out, you are hired in the city that needs the work.  who
the fuck does the carrier think they are;  if they needed conductors in
Boston, then hire conductors from Boston, if you hire from Buffalo, then
use the talent you hired from Buffalo in Buffalo!

But do NOT take the talent from Buffalo ( where cost of living is low
); make the prehire employee pay 45 hundred, spend another 35 hundred
for living expenses etc and then ship them to Baaaasten where they
couldn't afford an apartment even if they wanted too.

If i hire out in a city then i should work on the division in that
city.  plain and simple


where are the unions,  what are the unions good for?????


fuck'n piss me off i tell ya

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 September 2006

Florence, S.C. supply point had nine turns cut off our
Brakeman/Trainman/Conductor Extra Board yesterday 09-05-06 at about
1430 hours. 

The company has at least five more conductor trainees still qualifying
in Florence. We have engineer trainees that have gone to engine school
that are now having to fall back on conductor seniority since they have
cut the engineer extra board.

They have sent 5 more Conductors to engine school recently when they
have no place for the others who have already gone. They seem to want
one big board with conductors and engineers leading to the one man
crews CSX wants.

There is an agreement under this SCL2 contract called the Vacation
Furlough Award. It has been in place for over 2 years which CSX is not
honoring. SCL2 is the largest in the system. Nobody is supposed to be
furloughed. It is a shame these people pay over 6,000 to become
conductors and get rolled. 

Trainmasters are under pressure to write people up for rules
violations. Conductors or "Trainmen" start at 75% or 80% depending on
the mood of CSX but are 100% responsible if you screw up. Some lucky
ones at one point were hired at 100% but that stopped. Safety is the
cry but with so many new hires trainees are being trained by trainees
with less than 1 year seniority. Florence does have a terrible safety
record and I wonder why. If they want to punish Florence with furloughs
do something with the ones with the bad records. No they can't do that
becuse of certain issues that I will not mention here.

CSX is making record profits and trying to make even more for
management by using these tactics to force one man crews. 

The new contract negotiations have been dragging out well over a year
and CSX seems to be continuing to use new tactics at each turn to
sabatoge the contract negotiations. 

I hope you can all support us down here. It will spread throughout the
system and everyone needs to know what is happening here. 

Also vote for candidates in the elections who are worker friendly. No
more friends of Bush like John Snow and others who do not like Unions
and want them gone along with our contracts. 

Brothers beware of what is happening.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 September 2006

This "retard" also hates it when you have to read the same post in
every forum, but just to piss you off, here it is again!!  Twit.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 September 2006

IS THERE A COMPANY OUT HERE THAT DOESNT HAVE ISSUES? GIVE ME A BREAK!CAN
WE SHOW HOW MANY ACCIDENTS HAPPEN ON OUR HIWAYS CARRYING THE SAME
PRODUCTS AND MATERIALS? ASK A TRUCKER ABOUT HIS HOURS OF REST AS
OPPOSED TO A DEADLINE TO GET THE SHIPMENT TO A POINT. GO CHECK ON DRUG
TESTING IN THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY. DOESNT EXIST. AND TO THINK HOW MANY
OF THESE THINGS YOU PASS ON THE HIGHWAY EVERY DAY AS OPPOSED TO TRAINS
YOU COME IN CONTACT WITH. ANYONE WHO COMES INTO THIS BUSINESS KNOWS THE
CONDITIONS ARE TOUGH. THIS IS A LIFESTYLE AS WELL AS A JOB THAT PROVIDES
A GOOD LIVING. THERE ARE ISSUES IN THIS COMPANY BUT NOTHING THAT ANY
OTHER COMPANY DOESNT HAVE.IF IT IS SUCH A BAD PLACE, LEAVE, AND GO FIND
YOUR "PERFECT" JOB. NOW YOU GOT THE OTHER SIDE...PRINT THIS...IF YOU
GOT "ANY"!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: "Kick It"
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 September 2006

Well i'm certainly not a "blow" or a "snitch". You just have to
play them by there rules. If you cheat hope you have job insurance and
hope you were not fired for theft or refusing to work. If there
stealing overtime from you, don't work it. How you ask? When your
overtime approaches on what ever job your working, leave sick and if
they ask tell them, management, that you have a stomach virus and if
they get funny about it tell them that you need to go to the hospitial,
and either they or he/she can take you or your calling an ambulance and
meet you there to file the report, do not let them in with the doctor
its called patient doctor privacy your the only two who needs to know
what was said or done and the company can ask ever so polietly to see
what was the problem and you may be asked to go to the company doctor,
tell them the same as you told the other one. The best and worst thing
we have is FELA, it is a long drawn out process that takes many months
and sometimes many years..But they will pay in the end..You just have
to have documented proff that the company is the reason for whatever
ills you. Did you ever read about the roadmaster with the BNSF in
chicago that sued them, BNSF, using FELA, for 38 years of improper
training and unsafe working conditions, and improper tools to do the
job and a whole list of other things. Well his case is in court now,
and he is looking like a new lotto winner. No matter what the
management says or does, wether it takes a month or years, play there
game with them, envolve the FRA with it and they will back down. you
can call your area FRA field agent to come to your investigation if you
were pulled from service because you refused to take a call when you
were not rested. The FRA is a snake in the grass, but if your following
the rules they can't bite you. And you have to have previous employment
with a railroad to get a job as an inspector with the FRA...So that
means they were just as pissed at the company they worked for as you
are with the one that employees you. Its a hand in glove thing. And for
the new guys..If you only make 15 an hour you need to find a new home
terminal. Every time i limp across a room i think about how fun getting
on and off moving equipment was. Every time i have to say could you
speak up, i think about not having ear plugs to wear. And every steady
check i get, i think about being marked up 13 days and only getting
paid for 9 hours work. Every time claim i get declined, i go buy
something new with my extra dollars i get when its paid on another
check, either way i win. Stop figuring out how to screw the company and
just play by there rules, it pays off in the end, and you still have a
job to go to.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 September 2006

Well i'm certainly not a "blow" or a "snitch". You just have to
play them by there rules. If you cheat hope you have job insurance and
hope you were not fired for theft or refusing to work. If there
stealing overtime from you, don't work it. How you ask? When your
overtime approaches on what ever job your working, leave sick and if
they ask tell them, management, that you have a stomach virus and if
they get funny about it tell them that you need to go to the hospitial,
and either they or he/she can take you or your calling an ambulance and
meet you there to file the report, do not let them in with the doctor
its called patient doctor privacy your the only two who needs to know
what was said or done and the company can ask ever so polietly to see
what was the problem and you may be asked to go to the company doctor,
tell them the same as you told the other one. The best and worst thing
we have is FELA, it is a long drawn out process that takes many months
and sometimes many years..But they will pay in the end..You just have
to have documented proff that the company is the reason for whatever
ills you. Did you ever read about the roadmaster with the BNSF in
chicago that sued them, BNSF, using FELA, for 38 years of improper
training and unsafe working conditions, and improper tools to do the
job and a whole list of other things. Well his case is in court now,
and he is looking like a new lotto winner. No matter what the
management says or does, wether it takes a month or years, play there
game with them, envolve the FRA with it and they will back down. you
can call your area FRA field agent to come to your investigation if you
were pulled from service because you refused to take a call when you
were not rested. The FRA is a snake in the grass, but if your following
the rules they can't bite you. And you have to have previous employment
with a railroad to get a job as an inspector with the FRA...So that
means they were just as pissed at the company they worked for as you
are with the one that employees you. Its a hand in glove thing. And for
the new guys..If you only make 15 an hour you need to find a new home
terminal. Every time i limp across a room i think about how fun getting
on and off moving equipment was. Every time i have to say could you
speak up, i think about not having ear plugs to wear. And every steady
check i get, i think about being marked up 13 days and only getting
paid for 9 hours work. Every time claim i get declined, i go buy
something new with my extra dollars i get when its paid on another
check, either way i win. Stop figuring out how to screw the company and
just play by there rules, it pays off in the end, and you still have a
job to go to.

Name: holdem
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 September 2006

Im 40 something right now, Ive been with the rr for 4 yrs now, and Ive
had 4 jobs in my life and I have to say that this is by far the worst
managed, unfair company Ive had the privelage to work for. I took this
job for the security of retirement and insurance, and soon into this
job, I realize what a bad mistake Ive made, but Im at a point that a
new career change would not be a wise move, so Ill try to make this
work. I would not recommend this job to anyone reading this, unless
changes are made, this is not a good job. For anyone going to tell me
to just quit and to stop crying, blow me! After I bought my job, I lost
my job(furloughed), so I have to work somewhere else and get told that
csx dosent condone second jobs, wtf? Now my senority is a little
better, Im getting steady work, and now they are trying to fire me for
attendance, gone from furlough to 80 hrs week, I wonder where their
attendance policy will be this winter when Im cut off? And if I stole
like they did I would be fired without a board, my paycheck is hardly
ever right, and sometimes I catch it, but I shouldnt have to check for
erors, this is a major company, shouldnt have to beg for my money! And
if they raise insurance anymore, well be able to buy from open market @
comparitable prices. And I just found out that my wife when she retires
cant draw from my retirement that Im paying into because she has her
own pension. You are no doubt a company suck "kick it", but the
majority of the blame shouldnt fall on csx, we pay union dues for all
these company perks, this is just my nickels worth.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 September 2006

To "kick it" conductor 20-30 :   Thats funny because I don't remember
them telling me that I was gonna be harassed on a daily basis when I was
hired.  When they told me I would make alot of money, they never told me
that they would steal money from my check each week either.  This is too
funny because you sound exactly like some of the blow boys in each
terminal that are always in the trainmasters office.  Only a snitch or
a company man would defend these crooks!

Name: "Kick It"
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 September 2006

What a Bunch of cry babies. Last time i heard this much crying i was in
a nursery picking my son up. I know damn well they told you in the
interview what a railroaders life is like. Hell. Complete Hell. And i
can give you the card for a divorce attorney if you need it, and you
will. You know what the real problem is with todays railroads? Its the
employees. Its the employees that are in T&E and MOW that the rest of
the population in this country see's everyday. You know who you are
getting drunk in a bar bad mouthing your company that pays you 85+K a
year so you can bitch about problems you help created. Nice toilet
shots on here also is that managements problem or the Jerk off who made
the log jam mess and never reported it? Or pissed everywhere but in the
toilet? Who on here has not left half eaten hamburgers and fries laying
on the console or cab floor and bitched about the company not cleaning
the cabs? Why should the company pay to clean it up they are already
paying you to work and you can't even do that right. And all you new
hires on here all you bitch about is having to work. I wish they would
do away with the guaranteed boards were you can sit around for a week
while waiting to be called and making nothing for it. then you can call
yourself a railroader. Matter afact i wish they would just bring
everybody to a pre 85 level then you can make that extra 15 dollars a
day your missing out on, big fucking deal. ITD is eaten up by overtime
as well is FTD..The loss of the brakeman and caboose was not worth the
extra 20 or so we got..Thanks UTU. But i pay you anyways. Three times
the 20 a day you got me. Now this is railroading you take the shit with
a smile and your retire when your 60 or fed up what ever happens first,
And if you think you can do so well elsewhere then fucking quit and go
there because im tired of hearing the bullshit your only making it
worse on me having to hear your bitching 14 hours a day...And you
thought that 100k on the railroad is easy..what didn't you understand
when they said blue collar union worker?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 September 2006

Look at the asshole who rapes the UP employees gets.  I am not going to
list all of UP crap, but this shit is awful.  The unions take our pay
and the upper mgt sticks it to us.

19-May-06 10B5-1 S/P FOR DAVIDSON, RICHARD K.
Officer 175,000 Direct Planned Sale $16,047,500

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 September 2006

I agree Pop's. Who cares how Mikey and the rest rape CSX that's old
news it's been going on since John Snow and at every other corporation
in America.

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 August 2006

wanted used sucky rr steering wheels.....i just am tired of reading
about mikey ward!!

Name: Mike Ward
E-mail: M.Ward@csx.com
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 August 2006

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=CSX

INSIDER & RULE 144 TRANSACTIONS REPORTED - LAST TWO YEARS 
Date Insider Shares Type Transaction Value* 
15-Jun-06 RATCLIFFE, DAVID M.
Director 186 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $63.585 per
share. $11,826 
15-Jun-06 RICE, CHARLES E.
Director 147 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $63.585 per
share. $9,346 
15-Jun-06 BREAUX, JOHN B.
Director 147 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $63.585 per
share. $9,346 
15-Jun-06 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 186 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $63.585 per
share. $11,826 
17-May-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Officer 7,666 Direct Planned Sale $540,4531 
17-May-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 7,666 Direct Automatic Sale at $70.50 per share.
$540,453 
17-May-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 7,666 Direct Option Exercise at $39.595 per
share. $303,535 
8-May-06 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.965 per
share. $37,469 
8-May-06 ROYAL, FRANK S
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.965 per
share. $37,469 
8-May-06 KELLY, EDWARD J.,III
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.965 per
share. $37,469 
8-May-06 BAILEY, ELIZABETH E.
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.965 per
share. $37,469 
8-May-06 BREAUX, JOHN B.
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.965 per
share. $37,469 
8-May-06 RICE, CHARLES E.
Director 220 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.965 per
share. $15,612 
8-May-06 KUNISCH, ROBERT D.
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.965 per
share. $37,469 
8-May-06 MORCOTT, SOUTHWOOD J.
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.965 per
share. $37,469 
8-May-06 RATCLIFFE, DAVID M.
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.965 per
share. $37,469 
8-May-06 RICHARDSON, WILLIAM C.
Director 528 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $70.965 per
share. $37,469 
8-May-06 MUNOZ, OSCAR X.
Chief Financial Officer 1,823 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at
$73.725 per share. $134,400 
25-Apr-06 WARD, MICHAEL J
Officer 133,334 Direct Planned Sale $8,942,2311 
25-Apr-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 133,334 Direct Option Exercise at $38.14 per share. $5,085,358

25-Apr-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 133,334 Direct Sale at $67.0664 per share. $8,942,231 
17-Apr-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Officer 1,200 Direct Planned Sale $77,6401 
17-Apr-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Officer 666 Direct Planned Sale $43,0901 
17-Apr-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 1,200 Direct Option Exercise at $46.56 per share.
$55,872 
17-Apr-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 1,200 Direct Automatic Sale at $64.70 per share.
$77,640 
17-Apr-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Senior Vice President 666 Direct Option Exercise at $46.56 per share.
$31,008 
17-Apr-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Senior Vice President 666 Direct Sale at $64.70 per share. $43,090 
30-Mar-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 14,587 Direct Option Exercise at $38.14 -
$44.8125 per share. $605,0002 
30-Mar-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 14,587 Direct Automatic Sale at $60 per share.
$875,220 
30-Mar-06 SIZEMORE, CAROLYN T.
Controller 5,000 Direct Option Exercise at $44.8125 per share. $224,062

30-Mar-06 SIZEMORE, CAROLYN T.
Controller 5,000 Direct Automatic Sale at $60 per share. $300,000 
30-Mar-06 SIZEMORE, CAROLYN T.
Officer 5,000 Direct Planned Sale $300,0001 
30-Mar-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Officer 14,587 Direct Planned Sale $875,2201 
15-Mar-06 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 203 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $58.45 per
share. $11,865 
15-Mar-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 21,600 Direct Sale at $57.15 per share. $1,234,440 
15-Mar-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 21,600 Direct Option Exercise at $51.4375 per share.
$1,111,050 
15-Mar-06 BREAUX, JOHN B.
Director 160 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $58.45 per
share. $9,352 
15-Mar-06 RICE, CHARLES E.
Director 182 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $58.45 per
share. $10,637 
15-Mar-06 RATCLIFFE, DAVID M.
Director 160 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $58.45 per
share. $9,352 
15-Mar-06 WARD, MICHAEL J
Officer 21,600 Direct Planned Sale $1,234,4401 
14-Mar-06 INGRAM, TONY L.
Chief Operating Officer 1,823 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at
$56.275 per share. $102,589 
27-Feb-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 48,635 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $55.27 per
share. $2,688,056 
24-Feb-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 14,804 Indirect Disposition (Non Open Market) at $54.36 per
share. $804,745 
22-Feb-06 HAUITER, ROBERT J.
Officer 3,500 Direct Planned Sale $192,5001 
22-Feb-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 3,500 Direct Option Exercise at $51.4375 per
share. $180,031 
22-Feb-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 3,500 Direct Automatic Sale at $55 per share.
$192,500 
22-Feb-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
 3,500 Direct Planned Sale $192,5001 
15-Feb-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Senior Vice President 10,000 Direct Sale at $54 per share. $540,000 
15-Feb-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Officer 10,000 Direct Planned Sale $540,0001 
13-Feb-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 60,143 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $52.18 per
share. $3,138,261 
31-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Senior Vice President 16,748 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) 
N/A 
31-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Senior Vice President 16,748 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market)  N/A

30-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Senior Vice President 54,785 Direct Option Exercise at $25.2813 -
$51.4375 per share. N/A 
30-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Senior Vice President 54,785 Direct Sale at $54.1209 per share.
$2,965,013 
30-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Officer 54,785 Direct Planned Sale $2,965,0141 
27-Jan-06 WARD, MICHAEL J
Officer 47,638 Direct Planned Sale $2,560,1701 
27-Jan-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 24,001 Direct Option Exercise at $38.14 - $39.595
per share. $933,0002 
27-Jan-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 554 Indirect Private Sale at $50.785 per share.
$28,134 
27-Jan-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 23,370 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at
$50.785 per share. $1,186,845 
27-Jan-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 24,001 Direct Sale at $53.60 per share.
$1,286,453 
27-Jan-06 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Officer 24,001 Direct Planned Sale $1,286,4551 
27-Jan-06 SIZEMORE, CAROLYN T.
Controller 6,000 Direct Option Exercise at $25.2813 per share. $151,687

27-Jan-06 SIZEMORE, CAROLYN T.
Controller 271 Indirect Private Sale at $50.785 per share. $13,762 
27-Jan-06 SIZEMORE, CAROLYN T.
Controller 7,740 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $50.785 per
share. $393,075 
27-Jan-06 SIZEMORE, CAROLYN T.
Controller 6,000 Direct Sale at $53.6225 per share. $321,735 
27-Jan-06 SIZEMORE, CAROLYN T.
Officer 6,000 Direct Planned Sale $321,7351 
27-Jan-06 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 35,046 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at
$50.785 per share. $1,779,811 
27-Jan-06 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 70,110 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at
$50.785 per share. $3,560,536 
27-Jan-06 INGRAM, TONY L.
Chief Operating Officer 1,471 Indirect Disposition (Non Open Market) at
$50.785 per share. $74,704 
27-Jan-06 INGRAM, TONY L.
Chief Operating Officer 70,110 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market)
at $50.785 per share. $3,560,536 
27-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Senior Vice President 6,621 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at
$50.785 per share. $336,247 
27-Jan-06 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Senior Vice President 23,370 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at
$50.785 per share. $1,186,845 
27-Jan-06 MUNOZ, OSCAR X.
Chief Financial Officer 23,642 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at
$50.785 per share. $1,200,658 
27-Jan-06 MUNOZ, OSCAR X.
Chief Financial Officer 70,110 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at
$50.785 per share. $3,560,536 
27-Jan-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 159,214 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $50.785 -
$51.99 per share. $8,182,0002 
27-Jan-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 47,638 Direct Sale at $53.7422 per share. $2,560,170 
27-Jan-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 269,712 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $50.785 -
$51.99 per share. $13,860,0002 
27-Jan-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 62,858 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market)  N/A 
26-Jan-06 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 3,000 Direct Option Exercise at $51.4375 per
share. $154,312 
26-Jan-06 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 3,000 Direct Automatic Sale at $54 per share.
$162,000 
26-Jan-06 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Officer 3,000 Direct Planned Sale $162,0001 
24-Jan-06 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 3,000 Direct Option Exercise at $51.4375 per
share. $154,312 
24-Jan-06 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 3,000 Direct Automatic Sale at $53 per share.
$159,000 
24-Jan-06 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Officer 3,000 Direct Planned Sale $159,0001 
19-Jan-06 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 36,268 Direct Option Exercise at $41.7813 -
$51.4375 per share. N/A 
19-Jan-06 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 36,268 Direct Automatic Sale at $52 per share.
$1,885,936 
19-Jan-06 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Officer 36,268 Direct Planned Sale $1,885,9361 
22-Dec-05 FITZSIMMONS, ELLEN M.
Senior Vice President 20,620 Direct Acquisition (Non Open Market) at
$50.425 per share. $1,039,763 
21-Dec-05 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Officer 2,299 Direct Planned Sale $114,9501 
21-Dec-05 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 2,400 Direct Option Exercise at $46.5625 per
share. $111,750 
21-Dec-05 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Senior Vice President 2,299 Direct Automatic Sale at $50 per share.
$114,950 
15-Dec-05 BREAUX, JOHN B.
Director 191 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.19 per
share. $9,395 
15-Dec-05 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 191 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.19 per
share. $9,395 
15-Dec-05 RICE, CHARLES E.
Director 216 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.19 per
share. $10,625 
14-Dec-05 RICHARDSON, WILLIAM C.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 MORCOTT, SOUTHWOOD J.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 KUNISCH, ROBERT D.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 RICE, CHARLES E.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 BREAUX, JOHN B.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 BAILEY, ELIZABETH E.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 KELLY, EDWARD J.,III
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 ROYAL, FRANK S
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
14-Dec-05 RATCLIFFE, DAVID M.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $49.13 per
share. $122,825 
3-Nov-05 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 42,460 Direct Option Exercise at $21.25 per share. $902,275 
3-Nov-05 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 42,460 Direct Sale at $46.85 per share. $1,989,251 
3-Nov-05 WARD, MICHAEL J
Officer 43,460 Direct Planned Sale $1,989,2511 
4-Oct-05 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 25,000 Direct Option Exercise at $38.14 -
$39.595 per share. $972,0002 
4-Oct-05 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 25,000 Direct Automatic Sale at $38.14 -
$39.595 per share. $972,0002 
4-Oct-05 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Officer 25,000 Direct Planned Sale $1,175,0001 
3-Oct-05 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 12,667 Direct Option Exercise at $39.595 per
share. $501,549 
3-Oct-05 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 12,667 Direct Automatic Sale at $39.595 per
share. $501,549 
3-Oct-05 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Officer 12,667 Direct Planned Sale $595,3491 
29-Sep-05 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 22,843 Direct Option Exercise at $25.2813 per
share. $577,500 
29-Sep-05 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Chief Compliance Officer 22,843 Direct Automatic Sale at $45.50 per
share. $1,039,356 
29-Sep-05 GOODEN, CLARENCE W.
Officer 22,843 Direct Planned Sale $1,039,3561 
15-Sep-05 RICE, CHARLES E.
Director 239 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $44.37 per
share. $10,604 
15-Sep-05 BREAUX, JOHN B.
Director 211 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $44.37 per
share. $9,362 
15-Sep-05 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 211 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $44.37 per
share. $9,362 
12-Sep-05 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Officer 5,403 Direct Planned Sale $244,6471 
12-Sep-05 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Officer 5,403 Direct Automatic Sale at $45.28 per share. $244,647 
12-Sep-05 HAULTER, ROBERT J.
Officer 7,500 Direct Option Exercise at $25.2813 per share. $189,609 
17-Jun-05 RICE, CHARLES E.
Director 249 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $42.605 per
share. $10,608 
17-Jun-05 BREAUX, JOHN B.
Director 220 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $42.605 per
share. $9,373 
17-Jun-05 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 220 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $42.605 per
share. $9,373 
17-May-05 BREAUX, JOHN B.
Director 535 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.915 per
share. $21,889 
9-May-05 MUNOZ, OSCAR X.
Chief Financial Officer 1,323 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at
$41.485 per share. $54,884 
5-May-05 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.915 per
share. $37,519 
5-May-05 BURRUS, ROBERT L.JR
Director 382 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.915 per
share. $15,629 
5-May-05 ROYAL, FRANK S
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.915 per
share. $37,519 
5-May-05 KELLY, EDWARD J.,III
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.915 per
share. $37,519 
5-May-05 BAILEY, ELIZABETH E.
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.915 per
share. $37,519 
5-May-05 KUNISCH, ROBERT D.
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.915 per
share. $37,519 
5-May-05 MORCOTT, SOUTHWOOD J.
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.915 per
share. $37,519 
5-May-05 RATCLIFFE, DAVID M.
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.915 per
share. $37,519 
5-May-05 RICE, CHARLES E.
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.915 per
share. $37,519 
5-May-05 RICHARDSON, WILLIAM C.
Director 917 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $40.915 per
share. $37,519 
16-Mar-05 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 218 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $42.985 per
share. $9,370 
16-Mar-05 RICE, CHARLES E.
Director 247 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $42.985 per
share. $10,617 
14-Mar-05 INGRAM, TONY L.
Chief Operating Officer 1,250 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at
$42.66 per share. $53,324 
3-Mar-05 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Officer 20,000 Direct Planned Sale $845,0001 
3-Mar-05 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 20,000 Direct Automatic Sale at $42.25 per share. $845,000 
3-Mar-05 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 20,000 Direct Option Exercise at $40.25 per share. $805,000 
16-Dec-04 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 241 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $38.915 per
share. $9,378 
16-Dec-04 RICE, CHARLES E.
Director 273 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $38.915 per
share. $10,623 
8-Dec-04 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $38.60 per
share. $96,500 
8-Dec-04 BURRUS, ROBERT L.JR
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $38.60 per
share. $96,500 
8-Dec-04 ROYAL, FRANK S
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $38.60 per
share. $96,500 
8-Dec-04 KELLY, EDWARD J.,III
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $38.60 per
share. $96,500 
8-Dec-04 BAILEY, ELIZABETH E.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $38.60 per
share. $96,500 
8-Dec-04 KUNISCH, ROBERT D.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $38.60 per
share. $96,500 
8-Dec-04 MORCOTT, SOUTHWOOD J.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $38.60 per
share. $96,500 
8-Dec-04 RATCLIFFE, DAVID M.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $38.60 per
share. $96,500 
8-Dec-04 RICHARDSON, WILLIAM C.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $38.60 per
share. $96,500 
8-Dec-04 RICE, CHARLES E.
Director 2,500 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $38.60 per
share. $96,500 
16-Sep-04 SHEPARD, DONALD J.
Director 282 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $33.205 per
share. $9,363 
16-Sep-04 RICE, CHARLES E.
Director 320 Indirect Acquisition (Non Open Market) at $33.205 per
share. $10,625

Name: xxx
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for N/A
Posted: 20 August 2006

to NoMo.  How safe iz Mr murray? AKa crash Melvin or hurry Murray? 
check it out.

Name: h t long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 August 2006

i used to always be happy.....but then the rr started the random
testing.......

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 August 2006

Now let us disect this animal. I can see Blood!

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 August 2006

goof,
why are you so fast to just me about what makes me happy?--------I have
no idea what you are talking about!
i dont get any shares period! so any that i would get would be great
to
add to my whopping 9.4 shares of safety stock i received 10 or 15
years-----Tell that to someone that gives a shit??
ago.... minus the taxes! after the split i will have 18.8
shares..seee-----Yep if they were free, it is nice to just say
Thanks!!!!
csx loves me! they relly do care, heck i just got a new hat from them
made in sir linka!---Lucky that you were not overlooked when they gave
the hat's out, you would have been the biggest pisser on free stuff.
               hope that makes you happy!  goober---- Heck man I am
always happy!

GOOFY

Name: pissed-off-wife
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2006

Everyone- After reading this most recent ordeal about the "offer" to
get your job back, I would really like to let the FRA in on CSX's
games of intimidation and harassment.  If anyone is willing to advise,
add info, etc. for me to forward a letter (first, then I'll start
calling), I would appreciate it.  I need any ideas you've got as I'm
only a wife and not actually the CSX employee.  But since me and my
husband work together to maintain our household, his pulls-from-service
or terminations directly affect me too.  I'm sick of this disservice to
hard-working guys and something's got to be done.  I might not be able
to make drastic changes, but I sure can try to be heard.  It sounds
like a class-action law suit really has some footing, if enough guys
are brave enough to do it.  At the very least, I am willing to open my
mouth. So please advise me on this and I will get a letter sent and
phone calls made.  I am definitely addressing the fact that an
unwritten, unsaid "policy" seems to be going on that short-term
suspension for charges is no longer a form of discipline, only
termination, then guys are bullied into getting their jobs back in
exchange for dropping their appeals, and accepting responsibility.
Please give me ideas to add to and expand on.  I want to get it all
said at once. Thanks for your help and I hope I can help you guys in
return.

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 August 2006

goof,
why are you so fast to just me about what makes me happy?
i dont get any shares period! so any that i would get would be great to
add to my whopping 9.4 shares of safety stock i received 10 or 15 years
ago.... minus the taxes! after the split i will have 18.8 shares..seee
csx loves me! they relly do care, heck i just got a new hat from them
made in sir linka!
               hope that makes you happy!  goober

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 August 2006

HTLON:
Hey man I get it. As the GIVER==== CSX can set the 2 for 1 date as they
please. I doubt that the small amount that they contribute to employees
has any effect on the split date.

Free is a good thing, if you want more than 30, then contract for a
cash amount. I can assure you that you will, not be happy with that
either.

GOOFY

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 August 2006

If for some reason? The stock splits 2 for 1 than all stock splits 2 for
1. If you have 30 now you will have 60. If the dividend was .25 now it
will be ,12.5.
Those that receive 30 shares per year receive them at market price
which never is the same year to year.

The complainer might want some of those 30 shares that were given to
him from 2002 when they were worth $25.00 each. Now take 30 x 25 and
see what you have.

GOOFY

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 August 2006

Well...if you're going to be impotent...dress like you're impotent!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 August 2006

I know what you mean. My 6.012 shares will double and I will also be
impotent.

Name: HERE TOO LONG
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 August 2006

well all i know is my 9.4 shares is going to grow!!!!  i cant wait to go
to the greenbrier this year with almost 19 shares....im sumbuddy now!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 August 2006

Pop's, it seems I was confused by the 30 shares question also. The
shares they already own are they going to split as well? In that case
it might/will be a win situation for them. The fact that the 30 shares
they get this year will only be worth half price doesn't matter you
can't cry over spilled milk when the cow hasn't given any, but is
expected to in 4 months from now. If that was the bitchin' then I
don't get the posters point of view. Whatever shares they get are
worth whatever the market say's there worth. People crying over
something that they don't even own that takes the cake, I suppose
their philosophy is they should get 60 shares this year. We have more
imporatant things to be concerned about like saving jobs then worrying
over some bullschidt.

Name: htlon
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 August 2006

goof,
he was talking about the year end payment to brakies, they get so many
shares of stock..whether they are $5.00 a share or $500.00 a share when
the stock splits he gets say 30 shares @ $60.00 if it splits after the
payment he gets say 30 shares @ 30.00 you do the math and see if 60x30
adds up to the same as 30x30.....

Name: Goofy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 August 2006

To conductor 10-20
Stock Split
It has not happened, and if it does. It really means nothing close to
the scenario that you expressed.

Stock split 2 for 1 reduces the price of the stock in half and that
allows more people to buy at a lesser price.

30 shares per year is not based on the price, just the shares. It would
be nice to get 30 free when it is $64.00 but not as much fun to get 30
free at $30,00. I know that you will never understand this but here it
comes. 1 share at $60.00 is the same as 2 shares at $30.00


Same old stuff, you can not have it both ways.

GOOFY

Name: Whistling Pete
E-mail: wpete@yahoo.com
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 August 2006

You think you have issues with getting your claims paid?

I don't think our commander in chief is worrying about putting Kraft
Mac & Cheese on the table at home:

25-Apr-06 WARD, MICHAEL J
Officer 133,334 Direct Planned Sale $8,942,2311 
25-Apr-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 133,334 Direct Option Exercise at $38.14 per share. $5,085,358

25-Apr-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 133,334 Direct Sale at $67.0664 per share. $8,942,231 
15-Mar-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 21,600 Direct Sale at $57.15 per share. $1,234,440 
15-Mar-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 21,600 Direct Option Exercise at $51.4375 per share.
$1,111,050 
27-Feb-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 48,635 Direct Disposition (Non Open Market) at $55.27 per
share. $2,688,056 
24-Feb-06 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 14,804 Indirect Disposition (Non Open Market) at $54.36 per
share. $804,745 
27-Jan-06 WARD, MICHAEL J
Officer 47,638 Direct Planned Sale $2,560,1701 

Do you think it was a good Christmas or a great Christmas at the Ward
household?

3-Nov-05 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 42,460 Direct Option Exercise at $21.25 per share. $902,275 
3-Nov-05 WARD, MICHAEL J.
Chairman 42,460 Direct Sale at $46.85 per share. $1,989,251 

Ever think his wife says 

"Ward, don't you think you were a little hard on the Beaver last
night?

Name: Joe Blow
E-mail: jblow@cox.net
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 August 2006

Now I know the automated system calls you to work, but lets all start
answering the phone this way just in case it happens to be a CSX live
human calling you out to work.  Just answer the phone in the following
manner:

It's a great day at CSX Railroad, Conductor Downs speaking, how can I
help you this morning/afternoon/evening?

This puts them into shock.  Next, when they give you your assignment
for that piece o'crap 12 hour drag, thank them with enthusiasm and
wish them a great day!

Name: 
E-mail: d-mowens@cox.net
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 August 2006

I know this is a Site about CSX, but I have a request. My father worked
for L&N and then CSX. I collect old L&N RR items. I am looking for an
Aladdin Cab lamp marked L&N, also looking for an old Metal First Aid
Kit (gray in color with raised letters L&N RR) , also looking for a
camp car lamp marked with the L&N logo, the last items are for a Draw
Bridge lamp, I need the red and green flat pieces of glass that went in
the Top of Bridge lantern( green to rail and Red to River when the
Bridge was lined and locked for Rail traffic) also would like to get
the Fuel font that goes in the Large Adlake Bridge lantern ( has three
lifting wire handles). Hopefully some of you Railroaders that remember
the Good Times on L&N will be able to help. I am willing to pay for all
of these items. I am just trying to collect for my personal L&N RR
collection, and trying to keep the L&N RR alive through the memories.

Thanks in Advance for any info on where I might obtain any of these
items. 

 

David

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 August 2006

To Locomotive Engineer 1-10:

I agree with you 100%, we have to pull together no matter what has
happened in the past.  This contract is way too important to be
fighting with each other!

Name: BAMBAM
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 August 2006

I worked for Corail in the late 90's as a conductor and have an offer
to get back into railroading with the Signal Maintainers out of
Chicago. Can anyone give me some advice if it's worth getting back
into. 
Thanks.BAMBAM

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 August 2006

Cond 10-20: Did you think CSX would be nice guys? If I was a pre92
trainmen who is recieving the $6500 a year in retirement accounts for
selling the last brakemen jobs, I'd be worried that CSX isn't
concocting some way of screwing ya'll out of those lump sum retirement
packages. CSX will have to fork out a lot of money to the baby boomers
getting ready to retire over the next 8 years. Do you really trust
those agreements that Boyd and Little signed? Look at it this way,
it's free money no matter what it's worth, but it really wasn't free
it left the door wide open to what has become CSX today. The UTU today
regrets those foolish decisions of downsizing that they went along
with, the 2006 FRA report on the statis of the railroads chastised the
UTU recent objections to hiring practices stating they were 14 years to
late 'Pandora's Box' is already open. Only with the help of the BLET
the UTU might overcome the latest of the carriers demands for more
downsizing, and Brother a lot of Engineers still hold a hatred for the
UTU over the backstabbing UTU RCO fiasco. But, a lot of us know that
further downsizing has a greater effect on our livelyhoods in the long
run such as Railroad Retirement, and that two wrongs don't make a
right. So, I think some conductors should quit this bullschidt of every
December asking Engineers how much will the productivity shares be worth
this year. It still makes our blood boil, and it's done intentionally.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 August 2006

Hey Big C:

That's not the "wife", I'm betting that's "Queer Eye" On You or
some other mental giant of the same ability. I guess he finished his
business and they let him come out of his knee hole to play.

What is an APE? Is it A Piece of Excrement or All Purpose Employee?
Wouldn't an all purpose employee be like a morphodite or bi-sexual. A
jack of all trades but a master of none.

I just love it when they get pissed, I guess I struck a nerve. O.K. you
vented, now get back into you knee hole and get to work. Practice makes
perfect. Keep up the good work and you will make the 15th floor in no
time!

Name: Big C
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 August 2006

I think uo put her to a high state of pisstivity, NOMO. Shoe wont even
use her handle anymore. Now she is a ape for 10-20.

Name: NoMo, BlOw, HoMo, SloMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 August 2006

Hey NoMo,

What kinda a dope you smoking these days?  That post of yours was
beautiful! Clear as freaking mud. Why don't you get a life and leave
this board to REAL railroaders who still work here. You are about as
bad as that Pines/Nelson bunh that has taken over the safety forum.

NoMo, BlOw, HoMo, SloMo

Name: MAX
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 August 2006

UPDATE For Augusta, Georgia

I have been traveling around the SOUTHEAST doing some e-testing!!!!

What every happen to that trio that CSX canned??? curly joe, indiana 

jones, and jim bob. Talk about Wolfman's HIGH PROFILE
list????????????

Well "CURLY JOE" is back in the tower trying be be a yardmaster, but
he eats a bucket of fried chicken and three watermelons every day, you
can tell! By the way he sounds on the raido (that is half a
sleep)talking to the yard and train crews on the radio; he mumbles; you
can not understand what he "SAYS" you have to keep asking him over and
over for a job briefing talk about safety....I am giving him several
XXXXXXX e-test failure's HIGH PROFILE LIST

Well what about Jones his new name is "KUNCKLE HEAD" all the kuckles
he has gotten Orr, Park junction, McCormick. Just to name a few! SOFA
rule failures while working 751. He needs to go back to engineer
school! Well it might help!!! "WOLFMAN" called and asked what the
problem is "JONES" ??? Why it's just engine failure "WOLFMAN"!
Wolf the engine quits when the air goes down on the train!!
............I am giving him several XXXXX e-test failure's, And "G"
rule failure   HIGH PROFILE LIST

How about jim bob??? well he just wants to be "HOOTIE BARTON" now.
Trying to be one of the boys. He still think's he is working under the
 "14 HOUR LAW"!!!
Take 07/31/06 he was working Y12031 on duty at 0700 still operating a
butthead in the yard at 1915 hours off duty 1923 hours!!!! More that a
dozen  eyes looking upon him..........I am giving him several XXXXXXXXX
e-test failure's, not to talk about FRA ...........  HIGH PROFILE LIST
 
Can the "BARBIE TWINS" correct the problem, how about the "WOLFMAN"
HMMMM bet if they won't, can't, or plain just don't know how???????

I BET "TONY THE TIGER CAN"

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 August 2006

CSX Trainman losing out again!!!  CSX is splitting the stock 2 for 1
this month (Aug) and the 30 shares of stock trainman get receive every
December will not be adjusted for the stock split!!  The 30 shares we
receive this year forward are going to be worth half the value of what
they would have been worth if CSX didn't split the stock or if they
would adjust them accordingly to 60 shares to compensate for the split.
 If they split the stock again 10 or more years down the road we will
only be receiving 1/4 the shares we originally received. This isn't
relating to shares already in your account, they will be adjusted. 
Only those shares you will receive in 2006 and forward. This will be a
VERY HUGE loss especially for those working another 20+ years easily
losing $80K to $100K depending on how the stock performs in future
years.

30 shares X non split current $60 share = $1800 

30 shares X stock split adjusted 2 for 1 $30 share = $900 (assuming
same stock price) 

60 shares X stock split adjusted 2 for 1 $30 share = $1800

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 August 2006

Hey lady:

I did read your post in its' entirety...You should work for the White
House, you could even make Bush look good.

What you did say was..."If you are LAZY and have no work ethic then
yes, you are going to be let go or denied time off.  Thats what happens
at any place of employment.  If you get injured on the job, its because
you werent taking all Safety precautions, or maybe someone else wasnt. 
Safety is #1 on the list.  Do your job right and you wont get hurt!"
You don't have the slightest idea what our work ethic is or what
safety precautions we take. Perhaps you care to explain the letter from
the UTU and BLEt to Mr. Ward which I posted just ahead of your dribble.

CSXT isn't the problem...it's the people that manage CSXT that's the
problem...it's the draconian system we work under, a system that dates
back to the origins of railroading. A system that unless changed will
result in the end of the railroad as we know it. 

CSXT hires these kids fresh out of school that don't know anything
about the RR or the system. Guess who trains these kids, some crusty
old bastard that knows a lot about railroading but doesn't know a
thing about business or have any people skills. The cycle goes on and
on!

You state further..."I have more than an idea as to what I am talking
about.  As for me working in PR, I beg to differ.  I myself have worked
for the company at one point in time". I don't know what part of CSX
you worked for, but if you worked in Transportation you know exactly
what I'm talking about. If you didn't, I would suggest you get your
facts straight before trying to defend an indefensible position. A good
place to start would be to read each thread from 01/01/06 forward. Then
sit down with your husband and father-in-law for a chat. Ask them what
the really think. I am willing to bet they both have a file folder
thick with denied, contractually valid pay claims totalling 100s if not
1,000s of dollars.

You are right when you stated that..."CSXT is a company that has grown
to outstanding proportion and will continue to do so in the years to
come..." Its' growth is the result of hard and dedicated work of the
contract personnel which make themselves available 24/7/365 for the
chance to be harassed and intimidated by incompetent supervisors. That
lady gives us the right to bitch. CSXT's growth will stop when the
same contract personnel have had enough...I believe that time may be
near at hand. 

5 minutes may not seem like a long time, in fact, that's about the
length of a thorough job briefing which you should have before every
move in the yard or on the road. If safety is an issue, perhaps the
crews need to job brief more often, but if they did that the system
would cease to move within 6 months. Oh! think of all the overtime.

I no longer work for CSXT, and I ain't going back. I thought I knew
how bad CSXT was when I was there. I had no earthly idea just how bad
it was until I had time to step back and take a long broad look. The
management knows it but either doesn't want to, and/or know how to fix
it. Maybe when they get tired of being bashed, they will do what needs
to be done. CSX could be a great company.

If you ain't the lead dog, the view never changes!

Name: Wife of CSX Employee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 August 2006

Evidentally you ASSUME too much.  I never once made a comment pertaining
to how hard CSX works.  They do work hard for what they get, that is
when it comes their success.  Not pertaining to being bashed.  Read a
comment in its entirety before you post an opposition.  Why would the
TRUTH hurt me??  and I have more than an idea as to what I am talking
about.  As for me working in PR, I beg to differ.  I myself have worked
for the company at one point in time.  I chose to be a stay at home
mother.  CSX is a hard working company, always have been and always
will be.  However, they do have some workers.. those primarily are the
ones that complain and bash the company, who tend to be more on the
lazy side and never seem to reap the great benefits that the company
has to offer.  

Also, why would you ASSUME I am on drugs?  Is it because I can be
perfectly happy without destroying something or saying something
positive about CSX?

So whats your next comment?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 August 2006

I wonder if she's on drugs...'cause she doesn't have a clue. Maybe
she is with the PR department! Her husband or father-in-law might be
bucking for a promotion.

Hey lady...CSX works hard for every thing they get! Sometimes the truth
hurts.

Name: Wife of a CSXT Employee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 August 2006

CSXT has been part of my family for many years, and I am very disgusted
by some of the things that have been said and are being said regarding
the company.  With that said, my husband, father-in-law and along with
many close friends all work for the company in various positions
ranging from Carman all the way to Mechanical Superintendant and
Employee and Labor Relations. Whether it pertains to Safety, denied
claims, attendance, harrasment or courtesy and professionalism.  CSXT
inhabbits all of these.  While you are bashing CSXT, you need to
realize that there are also many employees, those that are loyal and
honest to god hard workers, that enjoy their jobs and the bennefits
that CSXT has to offer. Also question why you are doing that.. The
company in itself, is an entity, set aside from any other company you
may have ever worked for.  Some of the benefits you would have working
a State Job (FMLA) are not the same within CSX.  When you are hired on,
or even applying for a job with the company, you sign contracts that
have information regarding all benefits that will be provided to you
and your family.  If you did not like what was offered, you should not
have accepted the position.  

If you are LAZY and have no work ethic then yes, you are going to be
let go or denied time off.  Thats what happens at any place of
employment.  If you get injured on the job, its because you werent
taking all Safety precautions, or maybe someone else wasnt.  Safety is
#1 on the list.  Do your job right and you wont get hurt!

For those of you still employed with CSX and are continually bashing it
and giving it a bad name and reputation.  Just shut the hell up or get
the hell out!  If you hate it so much, and it is as bad as you make it
out to be, then WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE????  CSX does not want employees
tarnishing its name, especially if they are the ones still paying you! 
Evidentally you are such a wonderful employee and hard worker that you
will be able to find you a job anywhere else without a problem...  Or
can you???

Get your facts straigt people!  CSXT is a company that has grown to
outstanding proportion and will continue to do so in the years to come,
whether you are part of the company or not.  Trust me, they won't go
under because you are no longer employed.

I completely support CSXT in all that they do.  As with any job, you
will have your disagreements and quirks, but you have to just get over
it and continue working.  No workplace is 100% perfect, so don't
expect that out of CSXT.  But I can tell you, they are better than many
others out there.....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 August 2006

I would like the name of a legal group interested in working on a
contingency fee for a discrimination suit against csx. Also if anyone
knows someone who has went up against the company and won that info
would be helpful also. thank you.

Name: we aint gonna take it
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 August 2006

Youre Right Under FMLA Leave CSX or any other Railroad can not make an
employee use or substitute vacation, personal leave, or accrued leave
in place of FMLA Leave.
 


 

DLR: Railroads Cannot Make Workers Substitute Paid Time Off for Unpaid
Leave


January 20, 2006

A group of railroad employers cannot require their union-represented
employees to take paid leave in lieu of unpaid leave under the Family
and Medical Leave Act if these policies would violate their collective
bargaining agreements, the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Illinois ruled Dec. 28 (Bhd. of Maint. of Way Employes v.
CSX Transp. Inc., N.D. Ill., No. 03 C 9419, 12/28/05).

The case involved several lawsuits from 13 unions, including the
Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employes, and several individual
plaintiffs, against five railroads, including CSX Transportation Inc.
Each of the railroads adopted policies requiring union-represented
employees to use their paid leave before using unpaid leave for certain
family and medical reasons. Judge Wayne R. Andersen ruled that the
employers' policies were unlawful if they violated the collective
bargaining agreements.

"The FMLA does not allow the [railroad] carriers to take away rights
the unions bargained for and won in" contract negotiations, Andersen
concluded.

Leeway to Use Paid Leave.

Under the FMLA, eligible employees may take up to 12 weeks of unpaid
leave during any 12-month period due to the birth or adoption of a
child or because they or certain family members develop serious medical
conditions. However, the law says employers "may" require eligible
workers to substitute accrued paid vacation, personal, medical, or
family leave for any part of the 12 unpaid weeks of leave.

The employers have long-standing collective bargaining agreements with
the unions involved in the case, which provide various amounts of paid
vacation, personal, and sick leave. Workers generally can schedule when
they want to take time off, subject to the railroads' operational
requirements, according to court documents. However, the railroads
began implementing policies separate from the labor contracts to govern
the use of FMLA leave.

Although the individual railroad policies differed to some degree, the
court said, they generally required employees to use accrued paid leave
when workers asserted their right to time off under the FMLA to take
intermittent leave for their own serious health condition, or
intermittent or consecutive leave to care for a family member, the
birth of a child, or the placement of a child into adoption or foster
care. None of the employers required employees to substitute vacation
leave when taking FMLA leave in a single block for their own serious
health condition, according to the court.

Employees were permitted to elect which form of accrued paid leave to
use. However, the employers required employees to use paid leave before
taking unpaid time off under the FMLA.

The Transportation Communications International Union began arbitration
proceedings against the Burlington Northern and Santa Fe Railroad Co. in
2001 over the company's FMLA policies, which the union said violated
its collective bargaining agreement. Meanwhile, CSX filed a lawsuit in
federal district court in Florida seeking a declaratory judgment. Other
railroads filed similar lawsuits in other jurisdictions; several unions
then filed related actions against the employers. The cases were
consolidated, since they present the same legal issues. The parties
filed cross motions for summary judgment. Andersen denied each side's
claims in part and granted them in part.

Both Parties Frame Law Incorrectly.

Andersen said he disagreed with how both parties sought to frame the
statutory regime. The railroads said the law explicitly allows them to
substitute vacation and/or personal leave for FMLA leave regardless of
contrary labor contract provisions. The unions, meanwhile, said FMLA
language that preserves "greater family or medical leave rights" in
union contracts bars the employers' policies.

The employers' view is incorrect, according to the court, because the
law says companies "may" require the substitution of paid leave,
rather than "shall" require. Moreover, there is nothing in the
statute indicating that employers may not contract away their ability
to substitute vacation and/or personal leave for FMLA purposes.

As for the unions' assertions, the FMLA only provides for time off due
to four circumstances--the birth of a child, placement of a child for
adoption or foster care, the care of a family member with a serious
medical condition, or the employee's own serious medical condition.
Thus, based on how Congress defined family and medical leave, vacation
and personal leave are not covered, the court said. Thus, Andersen
concluded, such leave programs do not count as "greater family or
medical leave" as those terms are defined in the law.

"Vacation and/or personal leave are not greater family and medical
leave rights as those terms are used in the FMLA," Andersen said.
"However, the FMLA does not allow employers to alter otherwise
enforceable" collective bargaining contracts, he added.

Andersen said that "the FMLA provisions that merely allow an employer
to substitute leave are not provisions that supersede contractually
guaranteed rights."

The court also rejected the employers' assertion that the FMLA
represents an exception to the Railway Labor Act's prohibition on
unilateral contract changes. Again finding that the use of the term
"may" meant employers were not required to substitute paid leave for
unpaid time off, Andersen said the FMLA did not imply that employers
are no longer bound by contractual obligations enforceable under the
RLA.

Charles Alan Collins, an attorney in St. Paul, Minn., was the counsel
of record for the unions and individual plaintiffs. Donald J. Munro of
Shea & Gardner in Washington, D.C., was the counsel of record for the
railroads.

 

The article originally appeared in the Daily Labor Report on January
19, 2006.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 August 2006

Yeah...you know your right. At my age it's a lot more fun to watch, my
playing days are just about over...The only problem is my mind wanders
and I forget or lose interest in what I'm watching, then I doze off to
dream of the glory days of high adventure! 

Hell, most of the time I forget to zip up my fly! My wife thinks I'm
senile, but I tell that I'm just trolling. She says I might have
better luck if I used LIVE BAIT! Is that's respect for my age or what?

Name: ht long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 August 2006

well in my fun years i would have more yardage to and from the bottle
than all the full backs in the nfl on any given sunday.
but with age comes the want to live to spend my retirement checks and
it wasnt gonna happen the way i was going so  the big dog went back to
the porch to watch the fun....... being a porch monkey aint that
bad....

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 August 2006

Hey HTL:

If that the case maybe I need to move around just a tad...Well O.K.
then, it's BEER O'CLOCK on Saturday morning...Guess I'll start my 12
step program, 6 steps to the fridge and 6 steps back!

Name: ht long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 August 2006

screw the agreement...just like a youngun wantin ta screw anythun that
dont move!  if it was only so e-z...............

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 August 2006

Screw the agreement..management doesn't follow it.  If every union in
this country went out on strike at the same time we could bring these
Republican assholes to their knees and they would be begging us to go
back to work.

Name: O.C
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 August 2006

the PATCO  employees signed an agreement as all goverment employees that
they wouldnt strike for any reason, That iss why  the were     fired.
Also, president Raygun  (I like that_RAY+GUN) thought he was still a
mule skinner in death valley,

Name: james battle sr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 August 2006

May 19 I crossed the tracks at 4th and Mclain Rd in Lima Ohio, my
drivers side fail on my tire, I called a tow truck to retreive my
vehicle, I talked to several people at CSX, and they admit that the
tracks were in bad shape, I had fowarded pictures of my car and of the
tracks, they have since then repaired the tracks, but not my car, I
have sent estiments of the cost and they won't fix it, saying that the
car was to old. I drive what I can afford granted it's a used car, but
if you have an accident you either total the car or fix it, they are
not prepared to do anything. 

I bought the car for pleasure and gas milege, I have'nt received the
benefit of either, I am a dyalisis patient that has to be dyalized 3
times a week, I take a taxi, my tough luck, no empathy or care amongest
the CSX faimily Tim Benham would rather go to court and waste more money
than to settle for the small amount needed to get my car back, I guess
they don't make enough money holding up traffic all over the United
States and abroad. 


Please Somebody HELP!

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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 August 2006

Your the one complaining. There are two sided to every story. There has
to be a good reason someone is denied benefits. I heard about one
recently man was denied payment after getting time in the street, the
rule violations were those that are denied under the LE&CMPA. He states
I didn't do it, those of us that know him pretty much know he did it.
Everyone is innocent according to themselves, but there are appeals
processes with the LE&CMPA