CSX-Sucks!

Denied Claims

Claim Invalid??

    Railroaders work, and expect to be paid. It's a simple idea. Less work means less pay. Likewise, more work should mean more pay, but that's not the way things work on the CSX. According to union contracts, there are situations that warrant additional pay, for additional work, but more often than not, these claims are not honored by the CSX.



Webmaster's note:

Since I go through the server logs regularly, I just thought I'd take this opportunity to point out that all of the comments in defense of the company seem to come from Jacksonville, while complaints come from everywhere that the company does business.

You do the math.



Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 July 2009

Goofy

I need to proof read better before hitting enter. I noticed the mistake
"smake" instead of "smack" after it was posted. I was hoping your
meds kicked in or your glasses were dirty.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 July 2009

Regardless of how hard you try..you can't fix stupid!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 July 2009

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 July 2009

Wow!!!!Goofy you rated me a four. I could imagine me on a golf course
your head on a golf tee I raise my golf club yell out "fore" and
smake your tiny little cranium down the fairway. I love happy endings.
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Hey Big man, you are the KING everytime your turn comes up. You call
the shot's with all of the new folks. Quiet when you get one that you
can not push around. Keep on golfing and (smake) them. You stand as a
4, and a well seasoned 4. I do love happy endings. When is your last
DAY?

Name: pat york
E-mail: patyork@csx.com
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 July 2009

TO Whom IT MAY CONCERn
o trainmaster PAT YORK is a snake 
he caused lots of strife on the dothan sub
just like any trainmaster....backstabber
please dont go to work at this company

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 July 2009

Wow!!!!Goofy you rated me a four. I could imagine me on a golf course
your head on a golf tee I raise my golf club yell out "fore" and
smake your tiny little cranium down the fairway. I love happy endings.
Don't you?

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 June 2009

Hello All-

I am seeking any information from anyone that knows:
(1) about the relationship or contract [if any] between CSX and
Goodyear Tire Co. to service/replace and/or repair its Goodyear tires
that are utilized, for instance, on backhoes including, but not limited
to, (a)is it a national agreement, i.e., are Goodyear tires used in all
the CSX operating states?; (b) who at CSX would be the person that
would negotiate for CSX with Goodyear on tire purchase and (c)service
"after the sale", if any, topics;

(2) Is there any studies that CSX did/does and/or that they rely upon
for working in the heat and protection of its MofW workers;

(3) What is the CSX policy (if there is one) on working conditions
(regarding heat exposure) it will allow its MofW workers to be exposed
to?

If anyone has this knowledge, I would prefer to use my email to receive
this information at sgordon@gordon-elias.com instead of a response to
this post and I would be extremely grateful to anyone that can shed
some light on these issues. You obviously do not need to give your name
to me. Thank you all for what you do.

Steve Gordon
http://www.Gordon-Elias.com

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 June 2009

Instead of getting your claims paid or improving working conditions,the
UTU is making you pay, or opt-out, for Disability Insurance,
$1500/month for less than $30 a month. $1500.00 a month is about 1/3 of
of a 100% yardman earns and isn't going to pay for much. I wonder what
the premium on an addition $1500/month is?

I'm am also curious if disability from job related stress is covered?

Mutual of Omaha, I say AFLAAAAAAAAAC!!!


Group disability now available to members
 
UTU delegates have voted overwhelmingly to amend the UTU Constitution
to permit voluntary member participation -- through an opt-out
provision -- in group disability insurance coverage, and any other
membership benefit opportunities that might arise. 

The delegates voted 356-58 in favor of amending Article XII of the UTU
Constitution, which now will read:

"The Board of Trustees shall also be empowered to make agreements with
vendors to provide members with disability insurance coverage or other
benefits through the International, at the members’ cost, on an opt-out
basis."

Of 524 delegates mailed ballots, 414 were returned, with 86 percent of
those voting favoring the change to the UTU Constitution. 

"Group disability insurance will be an essential financial backstop
for UTU members, many of whom have been denied coverage because of
pre-existing conditions resulting from their railroad employment,"
said UTU International President Mike Futhey. 

The UTU International Board of Directors put the amendment change to a
vote of delegates, noting that a review of such available policies had
earlier determined that a group disability policy available from Mutual
of Omaha could best serve UTU members. Mutual of Omaha is an A+ rated
insurance carrier with more than $4 billion in assets.

The search was made under the leadership of UTU General Chairperson
Paul Emert (GO 898), who, with assistance from his Assistant General
Chairperson Mark Cook and UTU General Secretary & Treasurer Kim
Thompson, contacted numerous top-rated insurance companies seeking
bids.

Under this Mutual of Omaha policy, every UTU member will be eligible
for guaranteed coverage during the open enrollment period, regardless
of existing health conditions. The policy will be made available within
90 days, Thompson said. 

As further details become available, they will be announced at
www.utu.org.

Especially attractive is that the coverage will allow members with a
UTUIA disability plan to keep that plan in addition to the Mutual of
Omaha plan without any reduction in plan benefits. 

Benefits will be for up to $1,500 monthly for up to 12 months per
disability. The coverage will be for accidents or sickness, 24/7, on or
off the job and will be tax free.

This is important to those seeking greater coverage than will be
offered by the Mutual of Omaha plan. 

UTUIA field supervisors supported the Mutual of Omaha plan and are
pledged to assist members with questions during the open enrollment
period. 

Because of the large UTU membership base and the UTU's collective
buying power, premiums will be especially low -- less than $30 per
month, through payroll deduction. 

A similar policy -- even if it could be purchased individually from an
insurance company -- would cost UTU members up to $100 monthly. 

Emert, writing in a column in UTU News in February, said: "UTU
officers have an obligation to do whatever is necessary to provide for
and protect the needs of the membership. This includes ensuring our
members have income to protect their families and property during times
of sickness and injury. This policy from Mutual of Omaha will do just
that."

Thompson said that "still other benefits to members, as they are
identified, now can be offered down the road as a result of this change
to Article 12."
 
June 29, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 June 2009

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 June 2009

OK!!! Sorry if you think I tried to hurt someones little feelings. I
just reread my post I think I gave good information. Damn right I'm a
hard ass anyone who survives the railroad this long ends up this way.
Seeing you didn't post your craft it suggests you don't work for the
railroad. That makes it none of your business.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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No man not at all, you are trying to help a 10 year employee, that is
not competant, or a poster. He wan't help for a regular time slip/
ticket.??? You are a little crusty, hard ass want to be. I would
classify you on a scale of 1-10 as a 4.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 June 2009

Log on to the CSX Gateway at the top of page click the Help Center then
click Payroll Contacts click Contact Payroll Dept. A form show's up
that should already have you name and ID#. Hit the scroll list for pay
shortages then explain. Once you complete it a case number will be
generated.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 June 2009

It's straight pay they are denying.  If there's a way to get it fixed
online I'm there.  Tell me how because trying to talk to those
boneheads in payroll is like talking to a cinderblock.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 June 2009

OK!!! Sorry if you think I tried to hurt someones little feelings. I
just reread my post I think I gave good information. Damn right I'm a
hard ass anyone who survives the railroad this long ends up this way.
Seeing you didn't post your craft it suggests you don't work for the
railroad. That makes it none of your business.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 June 2009

Anyone that has been working for 10 years know's how it works. Old RRJ
is once again jumping on a poser, as he always does. Old head's are
Hard Heads. Perfect Match

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 June 2009

Are you asking about actually work time tickets not getting paid or
claims? It's two different situations. I've used the CSX Gateway to
resolve pay shortages it's quite simple and in my few experiences it
did get resolved quicker online than trying to talk to payroll. Another
issue I find is a lot of engineers rely on the conductor to put off the
ticket without monitoring the input. A lot of shortages end up this
way. A little more information would help.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 June 2009

I'm about to snap.  This is one solid month of CSX denying my pay. 
What's to deny?  I went to work, did my job, and went to work to get
home.  Simple.  Yet they deny my pay.  How the hell do they get away
with this?  Who do I contact to get these bastards to pay me for the
job I do?  I don't know any other person in any other occupation that
constantly gets their paycheck denied.  I'm getting desperate.

Name: Link
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2009

If someone can find his address I will e-mail him about the outrage we
feel. It's a shame.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2009

NoMo, I believe the guy with the crushed hand and missing fingers has
settled now, but I am not sure.  I've been working the yard for a few
months now, so I haven't been upto Bergen for awhile.

I was off on the 19th, but the men were well aware of the Black tee
shirt day.  Everyone should send a personal letter, written in there
own words to Szasbo, the new head of the FRA.  What happened to that
man is just plain murder in my eyes.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2009

Closed shop, so you have to pay in order to be employed.  I pay to the
BLET for awhile now.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 June 2009

I have been preaching this for years to def ears. If you can not see,
and continue to pay,Your broke kid's will still love YOU.


Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2009

The local UTU here in Philly just let me know last week that my claims
I
have filed with them were never filed further up the chain, hence they
have expired. Now I doubt my appeal from my last investigation ever
made it.

Why am I not surprised?

Name: JET
E-mail: Jetcherokee@yahoo.com
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 June 2009

To whom this may concern:I worked for the railroad over forty(40 yrs.) I
worked as crew caller, fireman and enginer some times in engine service,
I tranfered to brakeman a few yrs. later and worked as yard conductor,
road brakeman,I started for the B&O Railroad in 1953 and I also worked
for the Tennessee Railroad back in 1944 as crew caller,o.k.last but
lease, The CSXhad the railroad when I Retired in Aug. 1993, let me tell
you this, when the CSX had taken over, yes it was a new ball game, The
CSX wasn"t a railroad co., they was more for Export and import, well
I"ll shut up now, may have said to much, all tho I don"t think so.
Thank you. Sincerely:Jet.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 June 2009

Hey Freddie:

This site gets stupid all the time. That's no excuse for staying away.
We need your eyes and ears in the Pilly/Baltimore area more than ever if
we are create change.

Tell Troll he's welcomed too...the more the merrier...this site sucks
because all the new hires have a beef and rightfully so. Keep up the
good work...don't let CSX get away with it!

You know CSX hates this site...what better way to get even than to tell
it like it is.

Let us know how your appeal goes, although I know what the outcome will
be...if I remember correctly, you're a member of the BLEt, not much
difference between the two.

By the way, how's the fellow that lost his hand doing, if you know?

How did "Black Friday" go up there? I asked the question early
Saturday and nobody answered...leads me to believe that nobody
participated...what do you know?

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 June 2009

Good to see ya NoMo,

I was giving this site a break, it was getting really stupid for
awhile.  Normal is just a setting on a dryer.  Philly is the same if
not a bit worse.  Furloughed guys are being called back, but some of
them have found more reliable jobs, so I don't know if they will be
back.

Name: benn there
E-mail: 124564
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 June 2009

You have the right to sue under the fair duty representation laws.  Your
union is obligated to handle your grievances to the best of their
"ability".  If you have record of giving the claims to your LC he or
she is obligated to handle.  I wish you luck.


 Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2009

The local UTU here in Philly just let me know last week that my claims
I
have filed with them were never filed further up the chain, hence they
have expired. Now I doubt my appeal from my last investigation ever
made it.

Why am I not surprised?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 June 2009

Hey Freddie:

Where you been? Hadn't heard from you in a while...things in Philly
must been back to normal, what ever that is!

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2009

The local UTU here in Philly just let me know last week that my claims I
have filed with them were never filed further up the chain, hence they
have expired. Now I doubt my appeal from my last investigation ever
made it.

Why am I not surprised?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 June 2009

This may also help Mr.Smith


http://www.trainlawblog.com/2009/02/federal-railroad-safety-act-1/frsas-sharp-teeth-starting-to-bite-railroads/


http://www.osha.gov/dep/oia/whistleblower/acts/frsa.html


http://railroadworkersunited.org/sites/rwu.prometheuslabor.com/files/CSX%20Harrassment%20FRA%20Report.pdf

Name: csmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 June 2009

does anyone have a phone number of an FRA AGENT in Georiga,  I had an
injury requiring surgery, and was told at my investigation during a
break, that if I only reported one injury, the plant manager would have
a talk with me when I got back to work, making me think I would keep my
job, but they fired me anyway. They only reported one injury and showed
the second injury as non reportable

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 June 2009

How are things looking down there in Nashville Rail Rat?  How many you
got furloughed down there and has anyone told you when they think you
will be back working?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 June 2009

I am so glad working in an environment now where someones hard work
ethic is appreciated.  I left this crap hole this past year.  CSX can
honestly go to hell. UTU and the BLE can follow them...:0)  I honestly
felt while I was there that I did a serious crime and I was assigned
community service, but just got paid for it.  But of course, I worked
in the Baltimore Terminal.  From what I here, I heard other
trainmasters around the system (even the REDI Center) threatens
employees who do something wrong that they will send them to Baltimore
if they do something else wrong.  LMAOOOO  HAVE A SAFE CSX DAY!!!

Name: Rail Rat
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 June 2009

Well, I did get it extended again. However, there still is an issue with
the union not upholding senority rights to get requalifed. 

Believe it or not, there are some good folks in JAX calling me trying
to get this resolved from labor relations. Yes, you CAN talk with them
and they will try and work with you. I would rather deal with them,
then with the UTU chairmen.Read the UTU/NTU website. It will tell you
everything you need to know about insurance extention. Document this,
and don't take it for granted what some local chairman from the union
tells you. ONE DAY = 4 months. Since we all would like to get
re-called, we do this at a minimum. But I know some of us needs this
insurance badly. 

 Yes, we are all bitter for being furloughed. But objectively I have
seen  good trainmasters who will tell you your doing a good job in
Huntington. And the bad ones... well.. I document everything. 

There are double standards when it comes to safety. You can get written
up for not usung a 'dated" brake stick in the yard. But when tieing
down a train on double mains, with old hopper coal cars, you must climb
and dismount on the main side depending where the brakes are located. We
told them we needed a brake stick for this pupose enroute, but they look
the other way.

PTI can't carry them, and the bulletin says we  are supposed to use a
de-rail. Go figure! 

But the crews were good at telling you when they were about to pass. As
big as that division was, they would listen and call you by name. There
are some good crews up there. 

Corporate culture would change for the better if there were no double
standards with rule application. The good  T/M's I have dealt with
used to work the ground - they know it! Just common sense.

Name: Just out of training
E-mail: BaddA$$MoFoMastah@csx.net
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 June 2009

Wow. all you guys got is bad spelling as a comback?

Hay guys why don't you stop worring about my spelling and worry about
those extra inches your womens been looking for all these years.

Summer time is coming and its time to have those BBQs  Why don't you
invite me over and we will get to know each other. While Im there I'll
give those extra inches to your womens she been missing all these
years.

When God made me he told me I had two choices. You can be a master at
word smithing or you can have a big male member.

I asked, "Well what will open up doors for success?"

He said, well having good grammar and spelling will certainly get you
thru the door. But if your grammar sucks and also your spelling, and
they try to shut the door, you can block it open with your big dick.


Oh buy the way, when I come over tell your wife to wear those tight
short shorts :)


Have a safe day

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2009

Alright trainmaster if that is a real post and your such a bad ass whats
your name.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 June 2009

MMM... Community College?  He must not have been smart enough to get
into a University.  His next stop just might be Tulsa Welding
School.....

Name: Just out of training
E-mail: BaddA$$MoFoMastah@csx.net
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 June 2009

Im a new trainmaster fresh out of training. Im 26 years old and got this
job at a job semminar at my Commuity College. If any of you give me any
shit you will help me make a name for myself. They taught me well and I
know exactly what to do. I have a very big spoon over my shoulder the
size of a spike puller. If you people hide or ignore me I will start
sturring this spoon till someone or ones rise to the top of the tird
pool. I will test you. If you don't like it I will fire your ass!

Oh ya,

If I see anyone wearing BLACK or if you are Black on June 19th YOU ARE
FIRED!

Have a safe day :)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 June 2009

I tell you what.  I am so glad I have left this place..:0)  CSX is
horrible.  Their management needs to realize "The way you treat your
people is the type of work ethic you will get in return"!!!  Then the
low life union (other wise known as the UTU) took close to $400.00 out
of my vacation paycheck this week!!!!  And what the hell have they done
for me in the last 6 months besides tell me what they are trained to say
(they can do that, they can do that, they can do that, they can do
that,etc...over and over again)??  HELL, WHAT THE F DID THEY DO FOR ME
MY WHOLE 4 year CAREER???  Both the BLET and UTU are in the companies
left hand pocket!!!  That place is the biggest joke.  So I can not wait
to see what they take out of my second vacation paycheck for
6/19/09-6/27/09 but I will definitely keep you up to date on just how
much our (more like yours now) unions are low lives (UTU & BLE).  I
have said it before and I will say it again (like my mother said), That
place is for prison inmates who just got out of prison and looking for a
career!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  For you old guys and mid-career guys (and
gals), I understand, your putting in your time to get your pention. 
Most importantly, you started when this place was a GREAT place to work
at.  But you new guys??  What the hell are you thinking about?? 
Honestly??  This place is TTTHHHEEEEE biggest joke.  And what more
proof do you need when this site was sued by CSX and went to court and
this site/owner WON???  HHHEEELLLOOOOOOO????????  When you work for a
place that has a web site that goes in depth about how bad it is, then
that web site gets sued by the company, AND THEN THE WEB SITE WINS??? 
What more proof do you need that you are working for/in a bad
environment??  But I had a guy who worked in my terminal who was SHOT
(YES, GUN, SHOT) twice and out of service.  I thought you had to pass a
background check to get into this job??  Criminal background check at
that.  Again, that place was a joke and I could go on and on and on...I
just want to say, I made some great friendships at CSX among my
so-called brothers and sisters (BLT & UTU, just not the the reps
BECAUSE I WAS SMART).  And I hope the best for all of you
non-management people.  For you management people, I work M-F, make
just as much as you do, and you know where you can go.  Oh, by the way,
I do not get called at 2:00a.m. for a derailment caused by another
idiotic, inner-city kid by my a manager (Superintendant in your case)
and I do not get called period when I leave the office..LMAOOOO
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  And I am working M-F, do not get called by an
ignorant caller who my 7 year old's IQ is higher than, etc. (Again, ON
AND ON AND ON AND ON)...LMAO When it comes to CSX callers and
management, lets face it, it doesn't take much!!!LMAOOOOOO  By all
means, I am not bragging (just to CSX LOW LIFE MANAGEMENT)..  Good luck
to you older guys.  This is one (and an on-going) hell of a transition
you must be going through from your earlier years. For you younger
guys, get out while you can.  Realize the schooling/$4800 was a waste
and move on to another career.  I am now working for the gov't and I
am going to the aviation school of maintenance.  I plan on being a
mechanic in the aviation industry and having my engineering degree
within two years (80 credits to go)....:0)  Good luck and god
bless..:0)

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 June 2009

RailRat:

Where i am, we have been told it takes 7 days to extend insurance, one
trip will not extend anything.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 June 2009

Rail rat you have them, Now try to collect. you will face more BS than
you have ever seen.

Keep up the good work and force it right back in their Arse.
Good post This man has a mission. Bottom line payback will be he
spend's years on making a correct point and they say Sorry! You get
zero, but keep on paying those dues!

Name: Rail Rat
E-mail: jsdow@netzero.net
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 June 2009

For you younger conductors who got furloughed. Here is advice from an
"old head" who worked under the railway labor act for 20 plus years,
but not with the railroad. You see, I am furloughed as well too. I
worked in the airlines in both management and the union, and NEVER had
a pay issue for this time period while operating under the "Railway
Labor Act." We had a copy of the contract in our pocket and on-line,
and we went by it. I took a early out retirement buyout with the
airline and decided to work at the railroad. 

However, when I come to CSX, it has been nothing but trouble with both
pay and senority issues. Botton line - your UTU union SUX, not just the
railroad. They enforce trainmen's rights based on secret addendums,and
public law board hearings that are not placed into the "agreements"
that are posted on the Gateway. I don't believe in working off the
furlough board every time the railroad calls you, because then they
would have no reason to re-call anybody. However, if you do work one
day, you get 5400 dollars worth of Cobra premiums that extends your
insurance for four additional months. So you could work only three
times a year to keep your insurance. 

Last year some of us who were furloughed then, took temporary transfers
to other locations. It was like a gold rush. They could not get enough
help, so of course they cut our qualifying time in half - in our new
territory. Upon returning home, were get furloughed again, and now the
company says we are not qualified to work at our home district. We were
furloughed out of senority order, and I have "hard copies" of jobs I
could have marked up on for three weeks. The company would not re-train
us, yet they were still training Cubs who will never return because they
are so far down the list. Of course that does not prevent them from
calling in the middle of the night to work. One night, took them up on
their offer since they woke me up again, I deadheaded to Chattanooga
from Nashville, they then "discovered" that I was not qualified to
work and then deadheaded me home. It took four weeks to fight the
company to get paid the day's pay and extend the insurance. I finally
got it. But guess what? The company still calls in the middle of the
night even though they know I am not qualified to work. 

MY ADVICE is to document every call you make and to whom. Now us
"transfers' who are senior cannot work off the furlough board to
extend our insurance, but junior trainmen can. Below is an exchange
with J. Willis the union chair in JAX. 

ATTN: J.L. Willis, I will cut and paste your comments and respond
accordingly 

Brother Dow,
I have spoke to Labor Relations regarding your qualification issue. At
this point they are not agreeable to paying you to re-qualify due to
your furlough status and you do not stand for work at Nashville.
However they advised that they would not have a problem with you
re-qualifying at your own expense.

Response:
They don’t have a problem qualifying me at my own expense, but they
also do not have a problem calling me for emergency service in the
middle of the night and waking me up. I may just take them up on the
offer since they keep calling me -  for the purpose of extending the
insurance anyways. 

Willis:
When you are recalled any necessary re-qualifying should be paid by the
Carrier.
In regards to junior employees working when you returned from temporary
transfer no complaint was made to this office at that time. Nor was any
complaint made to this office at that time about the Carrier refusing
to re-qualify you.

Response:
Oh yes there was. I contacted Mr. Barry Hogan who long since has
retired from the union and he advised me to file a “CE” claim with
payroll. Taking the unions advice, I did just that. And the company
told the RRB that because I filed a claim –even through they did not
pay it, I was in effect “still an employee”. So not only did I not get
paid by the company, I did not get paid by the Railroad Retirement
Board for the first month I was unemployed thanks to the “advice” of
the union. (This is well documented with labor relations and payroll.
The union has yet to help me get these CE claims processed.(The RRB
finally paid this period five months later through no help of the
union.)

Willis: 
It is my understanding that you voluntarily began qualifying on the PM
district after your return from your transfer. 

Response:
Yes, I did, and that is a separate issue, because at the time I could
still hold some positions there. In fact, there was much dialogue
between Nashville management, and yourself over this. They thought I
should have gotten paid (which we eventually did – all three of us
through direct interaction with labor relations and no help with the
union to get paid. As you recall, the decision was based on Art. 17 in
a Public Law Board Hearing that should have been an addendum to the
contract – so of course nobody knew the policy, not even management.
You sent me a copy of this which I have, remember?

Willis:
It is my position that you should have been re-qualified at Nashville
upon your return from transfer however I was not made aware of your
situation until your call and email sometime after the fact.

Response:
Well, you should have been. Again, Mr. Hogan retired and you inherited
his position. He should have conferred with you any pending issues that
have yet not been resolved with trainmen whom you represent. He knew
this fact last January.

Willis:
 Situations such as yours should be promptly reported to this office
for  immediate handling and not rely on local Carrier officers for an
interpretation of the contract.  I have no record of you attempting to
contact this office concerning your requalification  during the 3 weeks
that junior employees were working at Nashville. 

J R Willis
Gen. Chm.
UTU

Response:
Again, the union was in fact notified. You must remember, I document
EVERYTHING. This includes phone logs of numbers that I have contacted.
I keep copies of my phone records for occasions such as this. The only
reason why we did get paid for the Bruceton runs is because I kept text
messages from the railroad management saying that both the union and
trainmasters were contacted and that we would get paid. My phone
records indicate that Mr. Hogan’s office was contacted around the time
the “CE” claims” were filed- as well as the local chairs. 
This is just an example of the union not upholding seniority rights of
its members.  

Rail Rat

Of course now I am doing some legal research to see if the union is
libal for a "lack" of representation. I will keep you all posted.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 June 2009

Dear Safety Strike-

I agree with EVERYTHING you said.

-------------------
Dear APE-

I took the liberty of posting your most important post here:
http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/ask-attorney-steve-gordon-gordon-elias-law-firm/13276-railroad-workers-united-june-19th.html#post123340

Our firm will be joining you all.
-------------------

Dear Just one more law firm searching for business????

I would ask that you not generalize please.

Steve

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 June 2009

ame: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 June 2009

Goofy

There's a difference between someones opinion and those that C&P.
Whether I agree with a poster or not I respect their actual opinion.
Those that critique others post line by line are boring. I guess with
you it's the meds clouding up your thought process.=================
====================================================================
====================================================================

Are you a real person, from planet earth? What is the difference
between a person that C&P and their opinion. That make's no sense.
I am very aware of respect and what that entails. I can assure my
meds's are zero, thank you very much.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 June 2009

Dear Been Here too Long-

What did you say?

Steve

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 June 2009

Dear All- Thank you for the honest responses. I will tell you that we
work VERY hard and since there are only two lawyers in our "boutique"
law firm you've always got a named partner on your case (LOL!).
Seriously, I was hoping to get the responses I received. I think the
concept of unions, on paper, are a necessary thing. Lord knows the
company has your back alright...to stick a knife in it. So, Unions are
a necessary evil...sort of like lawyers! I must say whatever tune we
had to sing to get designated was the wrong one we chose. I swear I 
thought that (1) getting excellent results; (2) making sure the
railroader was only treated by Board Certified physicians; (3)
advancing money interest free [where ethically permitted to do so so
the client could pay their bills]; (4) giving the client the lawyer's
cell phone in case they NEED to talk to their lawyer; (5) never
settling more than one case ata time instead of "group case
settlements" and (6) busting the railroad's ass with a
'take-no-prisoner' mentality and approach would have been enough to
get our name in the hat. BUT I WAS WRONG!

So...here we are...not able to just call someone up when they are hurt
but having to wait till they call us. Please do not get me wrong, we
have good business. But I just needed to know that we had a fighting
chance in the minds' of railroaders without the designation.

Thanks again!

Name: Ed 
E-mail: edward.oliver@gmail.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 June 2009

Union Pacific is the same way.  Make a profit above all else.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 June 2009

Dear All-

I have a question and since this is about as anonymous a place to post
as one can get in the railroad industry, I thought I would ask here so
here goes. As you probably are aware, our firm
http//www.gordon-elias.com is not Union Designated. That is, we do FELA
work but we were unable to do whatever the heck was necessary to get
anointed by a Union Designation from the "higher-ups". You can see
and hear my explanation at
http://www.gordon-elias.com/CM/Custom/Unions.asp as to what happened.
Here is my question: If you were hurt, would you consider hiring a
"non-union designated" FELA law firm? If not, why not and if so, why
so?

The courtesy of a straight answer would be GREATLY appreciated and
thank you.

Steve Gordon

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 June 2009

Goofy

There's a difference between someones opinion and those that C&P.
Whether I agree with a poster or not I respect their actual opinion.
Those that critique others post line by line are boring. I guess with
you it's the meds clouding up your thought process.

Name: old rr guy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 June 2009

Haa.I gotta say. I do not beleive that most of the posters on here
actually work for the railroad.
On second thought some of the whining does sound vaguely familiar.
Example#1: "I can't believe they laid me off after only four
months."  C'Mon this guy can't be serious. I was laid off more than
I worked the first three years I was employed by Conrail. Then, as now
there was a huge recession on . No cars were being bought,steel mills
were closing up thus no steel was being made, etc, etc.Thousands of
cars and engines stored.Thousands laid off.
 Its a freight railroad. If the freight is down , theres no work. It is
not a mystery or someome playing a game with your life. No one put a gun
to your head to sign up. Get used to the lousy hours, and sporadic work,
you will be living it with no seniority.Otherwise, hang it up and do
something else.They are not going to treat you like anything other than
an hourly employee. You will not like some of the people you work with.
Sorry to rain on your parade. Its a business , not a jobs program.Feel
bad for the guys in Buffalo where I started. I am surprised they
didn't close down most of the Frontier operation a lot sooner, after
the 99 split with NS

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 June 2009

You have to love this one, Big E does not approve of (Copy and Paste)
So what the Fu-- does he do??????---Yep post on every single TOPIC
MG son give us a break.


Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

I like it. Bog this website down with cut and pasting. Maybe the
poster
is tired of the BS of certian people who like C&P critizing every
person's point of view. Keep up the good work.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Mostly Correcting you experiences to the real world. Remember you were
a Fireman on diesel. Backup to get your check.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 June 2009

Dear Sam, Z, Safety Strike and All Others That Are Interested-

I apologize for not responding sooner. I posted the Press Release and
just checked back just now [0018HRS---06/04/09]. 

Anyway, I would like to point out that it was not our firm that handled
any part of this case. I think that the underlying firm did an admirable
job to get a $5  million dollar JURY award. I have only had one in my
professional career and I can tell you they are very hard to get no
matter what the damages. So, in that sense, they are to be commended. 

I was not at the trial and I am only speaking from conjecture. However,
having said that, I would like to point out some basic trial "truths"
that go through a trial lawyer's wacked out brain.

It is hard enough to get a verdict that is sizeable, you kind of want
to do everything you can at the trial level to hold on to it when it is
appealed. The general consensus on the modus operandi of the railroads
are that, anytime you get a sizeable verdict, they will appeal. Hence,
protecting your trial record is an all important process ever-present
in the back of a trial lawyer's brain during the entire process
including, but certainly not limited to, (1)juror selection, (2)medical
causation issues [usually dealing with the famous Daubert case, and its
progeny, at the federal level], (3)the sufficiency of evidence to
support the individual elements of damages, (4)the sufficiency of
liability evidence and, (5)as in the CSX v. Hensley case, the wording
of the charge. 

Obviously, CSX prepared the "genuine and serious" instruction and the
Plaintiff's counsel argued against it. Sometimes, just to protect your
verdict, you will actually let the defendant's proposed instruction go
to the jury. This is when you truly believe you've got the jury and
there is almost no instruction that will persuade them not to go with
you. This is only a call that the trial lawyer can make. The general
rule is to try to submit a "plaintiff's favorable" charge and the
defense submits their "defendant's favorable" charge and the Court
makes up its mind after hearing argument of counsel [and maybe, if
you're lucky, actually reading the law]. 

The CSX lawyers read Ayers as "requiring" the extra instruction, I
could easily see how the Plaintiff's lawyer could have been worried
that its inclusion could have been an obstacle for the jury to award
big damages. It was a call he/she made and they won...at least till it
got to the Supreme Court level.

From reading the CSX v. Hensley case, Hensley had asbestosis from a
long term exposure from working on the railroad. A reading of the Ayers
opinion reveals:

“Norfolk presented the question whether a plaintiff who has asbestosis
but not cancer can recover damages for fear of cancer under the FELA
with-out proof of physical manifestations of the claimed emotional
distress. Our answer is yes, with an important reservation. We affirm
only the qualification of an asbestosis sufferer to seek compensation
for fear of cancer as an element of his asbestosis-related pain and
suffering damages. It is incumbent upon such a complainant, however, to
prove that his alleged fear is genuine and serious.” Norfolk v. Ayers,
at 157, 123 S.Ct. 1210

After reading the above, if you had been Hensley's counsel, would you
have vehemently argued for its exclusion? How about if you knew that,
if it was excluded, that you would risk a reversal on appeal....would
you still argue for its exclusion? .......Tough call isn't it?

I can not fault the trial lawyer in this decision. 

I do have one issue that I would like to raise. There are many articles
on the following point and they go either way. There is, I believe, a
consensus of opinion of good trial lawyers that your 'bigger' awards
are usually found with a general damage submission rather than specific
damage questions. I will be more specific so you will understand. In
some instances you can submit to the jury damage questions like this:
"'What sum of money, if paid now in cash, do you award for medical
expenses, loss of wages, loss of earning capacity, physical pain and
suffering, mental anguish, physical impairment, physical
disfigurement'  Answer in Dollars & Cents $__________" 

OR, one could submit it this way: "'What sum of money, if paid now in
cash, do you award for medical expenses $_________, loss of wages and/or
loss of earning capacity $_____________, physical pain and suffering
$__________, mental anguish $___________, physical impairment
$__________, physical disfigurement $________' Answer in Dollars &
Cents."  The latter way permits the trial court, or the appellate
court, to take away one element with out disturbing the remainder of
the award. The Hensley case was a general/broad submission and,
therefore, there was no way for the Supreme Court to determine what
part of the $5 million was attributed to the "fear of cancer" award.
Once, the Supreme Court determined the CSX proffered instruction should
have been given, the ENTIRE case had to be reversed and remanded. This
could have been different. 

Once again, the general belief among trial lawyers that are worth a
damn is that bigger awards are found in the one damge line approach
BUT......when CSX was denied an instruction that arguably should have
been given, don't you think the trial lawyer might have "re-visited"
the one line submission before it went to the jury?

Well, I  do not know if any of the above helps understand this case a
little better. 

I think it was Sam that said something like "Whats the bottom line?"
Here it is: A FELA claimant that seeks 'fear of cancer' monetary
damages needs to put on evidence that his/her fear is 'genuine and
serious' AND submit an 'instruction' worded as such.

I do not believe you have to have psychological/psychiatric testimony
but I know, if I had a client where this was an issue, I would damn
sure make sure the client visited with a a psyche doctor so they could
testify how genuine and serious the fear is.

Ya'll take care out there and be safe.

Steve
http://www.gordon-elias.com

ps-the Hensley opinion can be downloaded at:

http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/legal-news-announcements/12920-csx-v-thursten-hensley-signiificant-u-s-sup-ct-court-fela-decision.html

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

I like it. Bog this website down with cut and pasting. Maybe the poster
is tired of the BS of certian people who like C&P critizing every
person's point of view. Keep up the good work.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Get the point yet.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

(Norfolk Southern issued the following on June 1, 2009.)

NORFOLK, Va. — On the 10th anniversary of Norfolk Southern
Corporation's acquisition of nearly 60 percent of Conrail, CEO Wick
Moorman today thanked customers, suppliers, stockholders, communities,
and employees for their hard work and support.

"On Day One -- June 1, 1999 -- we set out to build the best freight
transportation system in the world," Moorman said. "We have made
steady progress toward that goal, and together we have enjoyed a decade
of growth and financial success. All of us at Norfolk Southern are
grateful to everyone who has played a part in this success, and we look
forward to what the next decade brings."

Since Day One, when Norfolk Southern added 7,200 miles of Conrail
routes and 10,000 former Conrail employees to its system, the railroad
has moved 3.5 trillion gross ton-miles of freight. A single train of
every carload NS hauled in the last decade could stretch to the moon
and back twice -- and then some.

In order to meet increased demand and better serve customers, NS over
that period has invested nearly $10 billion in capital expenditures to
improve track, equipment, facilities, and technology. In new rail
alone, NS installed the equivalent of a brand new transcontinental
railroad.

NS' industrial development activities since Day One resulted in the
location or expansion of 1,115 industries along the railroad's lines,
representing customer investments of $23.6 billion and creating nearly
55,000 customer jobs in the territory served by the railroad.

The Conrail transaction returned competitive rail service to the
Northeast for the first time in 20 years. NS sharpened its focus on
customer service markedly following the transaction -- especially
through its Thoroughbred Operating Plan -- and today is the industry's
service benchmark.

Most important, it all has been done safely. NS employees have earned
the E.H. Harriman Memorial Gold Medal as the safest railroad workers in
the U.S. for each of the last 20 years.

"The numbers tell an impressive story, but as satisfying as it is to
see how far we've come, it's more exciting to look ahead," Moorman
said. "Our progress has given us the strength to weather the current
economic storm. This recession will pass, and the long-term future for
rail as the safe, clean, and fuel-efficient transportation alternative
has never been brighter. NS is ready to take advantage of the
opportunities that a recovering economy will bring. Ten years from now,
along with our partners, we will look back again with amazement at how
far we've come together."

Norfolk Southern Corporation (NYSE: NSC) is a leading North American
transportation provider. Its Norfolk Southern Railway subsidiary
operates approximately 21,000 route miles in 22 states and the District
of Columbia, serves every major container port in the eastern United
States, and provides efficient connections to other rail carriers.
Norfolk Southern operates the most extensive intermodal network in the
East and is a major transporter of coal and industrial products.


Tuesday, June 02, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Railroad accidents have terrible consequences, safety advocates say 
(The following story by Nicole Printz appeared on the Abilene Recorder
Chronicle website on June 2, 2009. T.A. LaCombe is a member of BLET
Division 261 in Herington, Kan.)

ABILENE, Texas — When people think of train collisions, they generally
think of train crossings.

Thomas LaCombe, Union Pacific train engineer and a presenter for
Operation Lifesaver, is raising awareness about trespassing incidents.
Operation Lifesaver had a car crushed in a train collision and displays
at Flour Power Family Fun Fest this past weekend. LaCombe stressed the
importance of railroad safety in Abilene.

“There are two major railroad companies that run though Abilene,” he
said.

The multiple tracks through Abilene increase the risk for train
collisions, either at crossings or trespassing incidents.

“Railroads are private property,” he said. “Almost everyone crosses
railways at some point. There were 2,000 people killed on the rail
right of ways last year.”

In Kansas last year nine people were injured and four people killed on
railroad property, according to the Federal Railroad Association.

LaCombe explained that many people do not think that fishing on a
railroad bridge or walking on tracks is trespassing.

The only legal place to cross a railroad track is at designated public
crossings.
Children are often fascinated with trains and will cross underneath
stopped trains.

LaCombe was starting a train and noticed movement in the rearview
mirrors. There were three children playing underneath the cars. If he
hadn’t noticed them, the children probably would have been severely
injured or killed.

“Don’t set things on the track. A railroad spike set on the track can
derail a train,” LaCombe said. “If the train is carrying federal
property and is derailed it becomes a federal incident.” 

Coins placed on the tracks can be flung with great speed when run over,
potentially injuring someone.

Drivers make poor decisions that lead to accidents as well.

“The railroads have their own police,” he explained. “If I see someone
go around the gates I am required to report that.”

Going around crossing gates is illegal, and you can be ticketed even if
the gates have been down for several days. If gates are down for no
apparent reason, look on the crossbuck or near the crossing for the
toll free number posted near every crossing.

Trains can crush cars as easily as a car can crush a pop can.

“If your car dies on the tracks, walk toward the direction the train is
coming from.” LaCombe said. “If you walk the other way, the train could
knock your car into you.”

“There are no accidents with trains,” executive director Darlene
Osterhaus said. “The train doesn’t come off the tracks and hunt you
down.”

LaCombe is available for free presentations for children and adults
interested in learning more about train safety. Visit www.oli.org or
call 1-800-537-6224 to schedule a presentation.


Tuesday, June 02, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 June 2009

Heads up new employees!!!
Unless you have at least 7-10 years of service, time to dust off the
old resumes... CSX plans to continue running on skeleton crews thru the
July hours of service law change, and if they can still move their
trains... yup, you guessed it... MORE FURLOUGHS!!!

Get out now while you can...

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Mr. Gordon, could you please respond to Safety STike's request about
providing more info on the Hensley case?  


Name: SAFETY STRIKE 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Nice WSJ article, Z, but we need to hear MUCH more in the way of
specifics from the law firm that handled the case.   

We need to know more of the facts of Mr. Hensley's case. He had brain
cancer (?) and lung cancer (asbestosis) from exposure to toxic
chemicals....what chemicals? How much exposure? What was the causative
connection? . He had cancer(?),  or he had symptoms of it (?), or he
had a fear of the symptoms (?), or he had a fear of pending death from
cancer, or.....something else was pleaded?  It makes a difference. It
is odd that the Court would not consider that Hensley had no fear of
cancer (or a fear of dying for that matter) if he had no present
ongoing stage one cancer. 

The Ayers standard for fear of cancer was 'proof of their
apprehension of developing lung cancer in the future', which
indicated
that one did not need to actually have cancer, but had symptoms that
could lead to cancer (plural plaques, cysts, high white cell blood
count) but not actual cancer itself.  Is the court saying something
different?  Is there now a higher standard based on something else? If
so, what is that something else? What is the legal standard now for
fear of cancer under FELA? Higher than merely apprehension, or
apprehensions with associated predictive medical conditions.  What is
the standard now for 'genuine and serious'?.  How high is  the
standard?. What would be threshhold examples? Is there a balancing
test? What did Ayers say that the Court relied upon - or did not rely
upon? 

Fear of cancer is fairly common in asbestos cases, and the standard is
not "high".....seems like the FELA plaintiffs lawyers may have left
the door open for a company friendly conservative court to come in and
restate the rule of law.  Why is FELA different from any other
non-FELA
fear of cancer case where brain cancer and asbestos related cancer are
at issue?   

CSX argued that the instructions given to the jury were too friendly
to
Mr. Hensley - the jurors were ot instructed that  Hensley
needed to demonstrate that his fear of cancer was genuine and serious.
How so?   Is it simply a matter of issuing a jury instruction, or does
plaintiff have to add additional facts to prove his case?

"Although plaintiffs can seek fear-of-cancer damages in some...cases,
they must satisfy a high standard in order to obtain them,". Ok,
great.  Ok, so again, what exactly meets the Court's definition of a
"high standard" when seeking fear of cancer damages.  

Did Hensley win on other aspects of his case?  What were they? Did he
prove that his cancers (?) were caused to his exposure to toxic
chemicals and to asbestos?  

Anything else this law firm can SPECIFICALLY tell us about the case
would be EXTREMELY beneficial to every single railraod worker employed
by CSX as well as the other carriers.

We may be railroard workers, but we read these cases, and we like to
know exactly what is going on.  

Thanks.

Name: z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 June 2009

Court rules for CSX in worker-injury case 
WASHINGTON -- The U.S. Supreme Court Monday (June 1) threw out a $5
million jury verdict awarded to a former CSX Corp. railroad worker who
alleged that he had been negligently exposed to toxic chemicals and
asbestos on the job, which caused him to develop brain injuries and
asbestosis, a lung disease. 
Among other things, Tennessee railroad worker Thurston Hensley sought
monetary damages for a fear of developing cancer in the future, The
Wall Street Journal reported. 

CSX argued that the instructions given to the jury were too friendly to
Mr. Hensley. The company wanted jurors to be instructed that Mr. Hensley
needed to demonstrate that his fear of cancer was genuine and serious. 

The Supreme Court, in an unsigned opinion, ruled 7-2 that it was a
"clear error" for the trial judge not to give the jury instructions
CSX requested. 

"Although plaintiffs can seek fear-of-cancer damages in some...cases,
they must satisfy a high standard in order to obtain them," the
court's majority said. 

In dissent, Justice John Paul Stevens said, "As a practical matter, it
is hard to believe the jury would have awarded any damages for
Hensley's fear of cancer if it did not believe that fear to be genuine
and serious." 

The Supreme Court decided the case without requesting a full legal
briefing or hearing oral arguments, a sign that a majority of the
justices believed the lower-court ruling was clearly wrong. 

The high court sent the case back for new court proceedings. 

CSX didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. 

(The preceding article by Brent Kendall was published June 1, 2009, by
The Wall Street Journal.)

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2009

Mr. Gordon, 
The Supreme Court opinion is most interesting, but could you possibly
put it into the context of the King's English so that the majority of
non-lawyers on this site can understand what the case means to them? Is
the ruling applicable to asbestos disease cases only, or also to toxic
chemicals, fumes, and exhaust as well.   Is it just lung cancer, or
does the fear of cancer extend to all types of cancer. Does a worker
have to prove that he or she has stage one carcinoma, or is it enough
to simply know that you have had exposure to a target group of
carcinogenic causing chemicals to be at risk of cancer, thus have a
"genuine and serious" fear of cancer?   

Much appreciated.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 June 2009

***PRESS RELEASE***


Significant Decision Affecting 
Rights of Injured FELA Workers


On Monday, June 1st, the United States Supreme Court decided a case
styled CSX Transportation, Inc. v Thurston Hensley 2009 WL 1506680
(U.S. June 1, 2009)).  This case demonstrated the conservativeness of
the Supreme Court, and their determination to exclude injured workers
from recovering.

The Supreme Court relied heavily upon a previously decided case, i.e.,
Norfolk & Western R. Co. v Ayers (538 U.S. 135). Ayers held that a
plaintiff may recover for fear of cancer if he proves his fear is
‘genuine and serious’.  Once the plaintiff has provided proof of their
apprehension of developing lung cancer in the future, the law will
provide compensation for those damages.

At issue in the Hensley case was whether it was proper for the trial
court to deny CSX its requested juror instructions.  CSX requested the
following instruction to be part of the charge: 

Charge One stated the basic requirements to obtain damages under Ayers.
Plaintiff is also alleging that he suffers from a compensable fear of
cancer. In order to recover, Plaintiff must demonstrate that the fear
is genuine and serious.”  

Hensley first sued CSX in Tennessee state court. At the close of the
trial, CSX requested an instruction that Hensley needed to have shown
his fear of getting cancer was genuine and serious. The trial court
refused to allow the instruction. The Tennessee Court of Appeals
affirmed, stating that they saw no purpose in instructing the jurors.
If the jurors did not believe the plaintiff was genuine and serious in
his fears, then little to no damages would be awarded to him.  

The Hensley court held the ruling of the Tennessee Court of Appeals and
the refusal of the trial court to give the juror instructions were clear
error.  In Ayers, the Court expressly recognized that several “verdict
control devices” were available to the trial court when a FELA
plaintiff sought fear-of-cancer damages.  One of the verdict control
devices included that on a defendant's request, each plaintiff must
prove any alleged fear to be genuine and serious.  In Hensley, the
trial court erred when it refused CSX’s request for a juror instruction
on the genuine-and-serious standard of Hensley’s fear of cancer claim.

The Hensley Court held that instructing the jury on fear of cancer
damages would have been worthwhile.  Given the fact that the cancer
claim could have the potential to “evoke raw emotions” among the jurors
made the need for a juror instruction on the legal standard even more
vital. The Hensley Court somehow felt the need to bring up the numerous
asbestos cases pending as a way of justifying the estimation of damages
for plaintiffs. Their choice to bring up the cases was irrelevant and
unnecessary. 

An interesting aspect to this case is found in the dissent. Justice
Stevens, who had voted to affirm the Supreme Court decision in Ayers,
displayed his contempt for the decision in this case.  He stated that
the new ruling authorized a fresh review of the jury’s damages award.
Yet, as a matter of practicality, he noted that the jury would only
award the amount of damages they felt was necessary.  Justice Stevens
further pointed out that CSX did not attack the $5 million dollar award
as excessive. In that light, he further demonstrated that CSX did not
request the trial court to ask the jury to award damages for each
element of recovery. Had CSX done this, and the trial court had
complied, then CSX’s challenge would only have gone to the amount
awarded to the ‘fear of cancer’ amount and the entire verdict would not
have had to have been thrown out. 

The Hensley Court’s decision to reverse and remand the case rests on
the language in footnote 19 of the Ayers opinion. The footnote states:

“In their prediction that adhering to the line drawn in Gottshall and
Metro-North will, in this setting, bankrupt defendants, the dissents
largely disregard, inter alia, the verdict control devices available to
the trial court. These include, on a defendant's request, a charge that
each plaintiff must prove any alleged fear to be genuine and serious,
review of the evidence on damages for sufficiency, and particularized
verdict forms.” Id., at 159, n. 19 

The Hensley Court broadly interpreted the footnote, finding that
anytime a defendant demanded an instruction, it must be given when
involving fear of cancer. 

In contrast, Justice Stevens held that on the footnote’s face it merely
points out that a defendant has the right to request a
genuine-and-serious instruction, and if requested, the instruction is
available to the trial court. It does not suggest that all instructions
should be granted. 

The Hensley majority opinion deviated from Ayers stare decisis. The
Court’s opinion, more than anything, will generate confusion regarding
the Ayers case. The Ayers case had already suffered multiple
interpretations by the courts. Given the opportunity to provide clarity
to the holding of Ayers, the Hensley Court failed to meet this
objective. In their rush to reverse the Tennessee Court of Appeals,
they failed to correctly interpret Ayers and eliminate the confusion
that plagued many courts.

The Hensley opinion leaves the reader wondering why the Supreme Court
failed to recognize the rights of workers who labor across America.
This conservative approach greatly diminishes a worker’s ability to
recover damages.

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Name: SAm
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2009

Knock Knock
"Who's there?"
"RRJ"
"RRJ Who?"
"Ronald Raygun the Jerkoff, that's who".

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2009

Sam the Foamer

This is my last response to your stupidity.

There that's it. Good-bye

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 June 2009

UTU 55k MEMBERS pay a $1.00 per month. Looks like $55,000.00 a Month

Soon we are talking real MONEY.
Cut the cord, cut the deduction, starve the worthless blood suckers,
get even, get MAD.

OR JUST PAY UP SUCKER

Name: SAm
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2009

RRJ says were all going to hell in a hand basket cause nothing is going
to change.  Everybody be sure to line up for your ticket.

Name: lemonhead
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Contractor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 June 2009

dude don't do that if you need to talk call me i'am for real
850-232-6347 terrance

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2009

Then change the unions. It's not easy. The unions represent more than
CSX. The western railroads have more voting power than the east. It's
always been that way. Next year for the first time in our history every
member of the BLE(T) will be able to vote on our leadership. I've been
a member of the BLE for 29 years I've never seen one of our presidents
show up at a division meeting or even a townhall meeting. Under the
bylaws and constituation you can't even contact them without going
through proper channels which is your GCA. Been there before. It's not
that us "whiskers" don't care anymore in fact we're more vocal than
those who have years left to work. The fact is we're the minority
today. It's your turn to see if you can make change. The unions went
downhill in the '80s after Raygun fired the Air Traffic Controllers.
Unfortunately just like them we have to much goverment interferance not
having the ability to strike on a moments notice. Most of you probably
don't even go to union meeting.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 June 2009

Looks like Sam got Chicken Pecker's so upset he done went and got his
chicken panties all tied up in a knot.   

Its a cryin shame that retirees have nothing better to do than be a
cynical Walmart Greeter on Sucks. Life must be shitty for these old
farts. I pity them.  

Sam has a point, and Z proves it - the old grey beards have a corn cob
stuck so far up their collective anal retentive asses you'd have to go
all the way to China to pull it out. 

Point is one union or many unions, the beef it the same. Incompetent
leadership. We need exceptional gifted leaders, not corrupt Union 
politicians.   Enough aleady. 

Weld that to your ear buddy.

Name: Fight the Power
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 June 2009

I THOUGHT I TOLD YOU TO SHUT UP.

NOW GET YOUR ASS OVER HERE AND SHINE MY SHOES, BOY. 

BEFORE I KICK YOUR POOR WHITE TRASH ASS. 

FIGHT THE POWER

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 June 2009

So now we don't need a new one as you have preached, just find the
correct person to run "our union". Which is it, keep what we have or
a new one. . He argues with me for over a month, that all unions need
to be decertified and start a new one, now the old one is OK, just find
the rite leader. You just like to argue and disagree.

Your also wrong abut the ones with whiskers, which you also claim to
have.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 June 2009

There are honest people out here who would run an honest union.

Like any organization, there are good people and there are bad apples. 
 It all starts at the top, and trickles down. 

Many excellent organizations have grown from exceptional leadership. 
We just need to find the right person to run ours, and that is not an
impossible task.  

The guys with long whiskers are numb to the graft and corruption,
granted. But constantly spreading negativism without hope of
improvement is no answer either. I think people want to hear messages
of hope - not dispair. Which means we need to be talking about
solutions to problems, not just the problems themeselves.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 June 2009

I want to start saying that I feel for all those cutoff, when I first
hired I was on here preaching one union, we need to form 1 union, and
as time progressed, I realized just what all the whiskers were saying
were true-aint gonna happen. While there are alot of good men out here,
greed prevails and it always will and csx as well as the unions know
this. This place is just a place to vent and talk a good game,
solidarity we dont have. To all the guys cut off, find other work and
learn from this, for all those working, watch ur back and you brothers,
I hear snakes are bad right now!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 May 2009

OK Boss, Whatever you say Mr Benny!!!!

Name: Fight The Power
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A
Posted: 31 May 2009

ONLY A CORPORATE WEASEL INVESTS IN CSX STOCK.

IS THERE A WEASEL IN YOUR WALLET? 

T&E ARE OUR BITCHES. 

SO ARE YOU IDIOTS WHO BUY OUR STOCK.   WE OWN YOU.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 May 2009

NoMo

I agree. I basically stated let the stock artificially inflate and then
get the hell out of it. I sold a huge portion of CSX when it hit 70.20
then when it went down to 65.00. What I reinvested in under the limited
investment options in the 401K crashed. Sure in the long run I would be
better to hold on to the other investments. I don't have a long run
anymore. I'm going to be like those short term investors and run with
it and know when to bail out. I don't have any faith or listen to Jim
Kramer or any of the so-called speculative Guru's of the market. The
USB article was amusing they told the truth of CSX always being the
underdog of the railroads on stock price because of mismanagement. I
bought back into CSX heavily earlier this year. I'll bail when the
time is right.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 May 2009

Hey Loco 30+:

No doubt CSX stock got a boost from the UBS upgrade. UBS must know
something the other analyst don't...the consensus is still HOLD.

I think UBS probably holds a substantial position of CSX stock and
makes a market in it. UBS just wanted to cut their stake in CSX and
what better way to increase your portfolio value, sell off some of your
position, than to issue a STRONG BUY recommendation.

I do think CSX stock will shadow the market and gain with the
inevitable come back. You've already seen the market regain a large
part of what it lost. When the market started it decline it was over
bought. CSX stock never was worth $70/share. When it hit $70, anyone
who owned it should have sold it. Remember Mad Money with Jim Cramer,
he was touting the stock a buy when it was already over $60+/share.

I think you bought in at a good price. At $32/share I think CSX is
fairly valued, any thing over $42/share is probably too rich for my
liking.

You're right about Ward...he's at the top of the food change and
hungry. Greed has been know to lead to creative accounting practices
which can lead to overpriced stock.

We have all become to dependent on other peoples expert opinions, the
last 9 months have taught us that.

CSX will keep the positive spin coming out of the PR Dept., fudging
their operating results, ignoring safety, intimidating, harassing and
working the crews to exhaustion. The worst thing that can happen
is the recent fatality gets scrutinized.

Business as usual!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 May 2009

Name: SmokinJoe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 May 2009

You all have to realize- the main qualification for advancement in CSX
is if Tony Ingram likes the feel of your lips on his ass!  Give me a
break- for example- within the past year, CSX announced a new
VP-Mechanical.  At the same time, a shortline was advertising for the
same position.  The guy CSX put in this position wouldn't have met
the
job requirements of the shortline.  Any wonder this company is messed
up?XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Education work's really well!!

Name: Jim from Selkirk
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2009

REPORT SAFETY VIOLATIONS TO FRA and UTU.ORG

Civil Penalty Schedules 
In December, 2008 FRA issued a final rule increasing the civil
penalties for violations of a railroad safety statute or regulation.
The increase incorporates the new maximum civil penalty amounts
authorized by the Rail Safety Improvement Act of 2008 and new minimum
amounts required under the Federal Civil Penalty Inflation Adjustment
Act of 1990. Specifically, FRA increased the minimum civil penalty per
violation from $550 to $650, while the ordinary maximum civil penalty
per violation will be increased from $16,000 to $25,000 and the
aggravated maximum civil penalty per violation, where a grossly
negligent violation or pattern of repeated violations has created an
imminent hazard of death or injury, will be increased from $27,000 to
$100,000. The new penalty schedule takes effect March 2, 2009. 
For more information contact:
FRA Office of Public Affairs
(202) 493-6024
www.fra.dot.gov
February, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2009

USB upgraded CSX stock to a "strong buy". Main reason perceptive
mismanagement has kept CSX stock way below other railroad stocks. That
even through mismanagement the stock has only one way to go up. It's
only rated as a short-term buying oppertunity. Which I understand I
invested everything into CSX at 23.84 a share a few months back. I'll
be like those who run this corporation sell when it peeks only
difference is they make millions in one day. I'll take my profit in
the ten of thousands and run with it. Even at the current price at 0945
this morning of $30.20 someone would be foolish not to buy. I look for
CSX to be in the low $50 range within the next year an a half or
sooner. With the 401k's crashing over the past 16 months it's a great
way recover some money. Got to remember Mikey Ward went through a nasty
divorce last year. The ex-Mrs Ward got a lot in the divorce settlement.
Ward had to sell $41 mil in CSX stock under the divorce. He has to
recoup his losses. Whether we dislike the way things are running as
employees this is a great oppertunity to cash in especially for those
of us who are short-timers.

Name: SmokinJoe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 May 2009

You all have to realize- the main qualification for advancement in CSX
is if Tony Ingram likes the feel of your lips on his ass!  Give me a
break- for example- within the past year, CSX announced a new
VP-Mechanical.  At the same time, a shortline was advertising for the
same position.  The guy CSX put in this position wouldn't have met the
job requirements of the shortline.  Any wonder this company is messed
up?

Name: Ken D.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 May 2009

I support your efforts to stop unsafe working conditions on CSX. 


Jury awards $1.2 million to injured BNSF worker
Posted on April 7
By the Associated Press

   

BILLINGS - A District Court jury in Billings has awarded $1.2 million
in damages to a former BNSF Railway employee who suffered a spinal
injury two years ago.

The verdict was reached late Friday, following a two-week trial before
District Judge Susan Watters.

Ken R. Dellos, 52, of Sheridan, Wyo., had worked as an engineer for the
railroad for 30 years before being injured in April 2006. He filed a
civil lawsuit later that year.
 
The jury found the railroad violated the federal Locomotive Inspection
Act and was liable for Dellos' injuries. Dellos was awarded $840,000
in lost wages and $360,000 for pain and suffering, said his attorney,
Fred Bremseth.

Dellos says he was relieved by the verdict. He says he's taking
college classes toward a career in social work.

Michelle Friend, a Billings attorney who represented the railroad, was
not available for comment Monday.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Sam is still just Sam.  

Chicken Pecker on the other hand, is, well, self explanatory....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 May 2009

Sam has been a busy boy under safety today. Post one thread  and then
another right behind it, 2 names.

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Loco30+ still obsesses. Engineer my ass. Zodiac stalker - yep.

....................................................................
Yep, been stalking you all day. Sitting here watching you post one
thread after another under different names. eng 30 plus, lmao.

Take me up on my offer.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Loco30+ still obsesses. Engineer my ass. Zodiac stalker - yep.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Simeon - Cincinnati, Sam you at it again?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Like RRJ said, you sre sick. We can spot someone posting under multiple
names in a heart beat. We all know you answer youself to try and make
your bs look good. Take us up on my offer with the web master. Or are
you chicken shit? Engineer my ass.

Name: Sam 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Loco30+, your the only guy on here who has his head stitched on
backwards to see who is sneaking up behind him.  The boogy man out to
get you?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Sam has another new name, Fight The Power.

CSX doesn't own me Sam, I DON'T work for them.

Name: Sam the Railroad Man
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Kung Foo Chicken Pecker, you have been annointed Master Kung Foo Chicken
Pecker by The Chicken King hissself, Jimmie Hoffa, Jr., and has bestowed
upon you the Royal Order of Turkey Basters. 

All hail the King. 

So, let's check in and see what the critics are saying about you and
your fellow Chicken Peckers:

Note: IQ of more than 1 is required.  

************************************
Name: FIGHT THE POWER
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 May 2009

You Union T&E guys don't have the intelligence or the will to strike.
Half of you guys would still work for CSX if we cut your pay in half.
Do you think that payroll makes that many mistakes? We decline...you
forget....we decline, you re-submit, we re-decline. We know how the
cattle work. It is up to us to make sure the cattle do the work we tell
them to do. We are Management, we make the rules- It's our game. You
guys are just pieces on our board. All those older men out there know
it too. Your Union Locals know it. So, cry all day long about how much
you want changes, but I've seen girl scout troops more organized than
you guys. FIGHT THE POWER!
********************************************************************

Karate Kid aka Master Baster Drunken Kung Foo Chicken Pecker still
doesn't get it. Even after Corporate sticks his head in the toilet and
flushes, he STILL doesnt get it.  That's why they love you Chicken
Pecker. CSX owns you lock, stock and barrel. 

When God was given brains out at birth, you though he said 'come and
get your trains", and you missed yours. 

Better luck on the rebound.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 May 2009

Chicken Pecker's fingers must be getting sore by now.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FekVR_SC5M

Sam we know how chickens excite you. The song has the word chicken in
it and this style of guitar playing is known as chicken picken.
Don't ell the jailer we snuck it in to you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

NEWS UPDATE

It has now been determined that Sam less than 1, was involved in a
elaborate plot, to try to seduce chickens, by claiming to be a engineer
with 30, who was supposedly forming a new union. It was all an elaborate
hoax to keep up the high demand of his appetite for chicken peckers. It
was also discovered he was trying to organize a strike in which he
offered to let Z walk the picket line at night. He planned on trying to
molest Z under the cover of darkness. Luckily for all chickens, Z was
the one Sam decided to molest. He didn't realize Z was one bad
chicken. If it had not been for Z no chicken in America would be safe
tonight. Sam was asked from his jail cell if he was guilty. He
adamantly denied the charges as chicken feathers flew out of his mouth
while speaking.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

NEWS FLASH               NEWS FLASH               NEWS FLASH

A person named Sam, who claims to be a locomotive engineer with 30
years service was just arrested for trying to molest a chicken.
CSX police say the chicken was named Z and is one bad chicken. As Sam,
whose real identity was later identified as a brakeman less than one,
with MPD was trying to get into the chickens pants, Z, the bad ass
chicken, kicked Sam's ass all over the yard. We were able to secure a
quote from Sam as he was taken to jail, in which he replied, " I
can't help myself I just love chicken peckers. I didn't know Z was
one bad ass chicken. He kicked my wimpy ass good, but I'm sure my new
union will get me out of this."

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Make sure you give us a full report on your Local Union Meet'n with
the boys, Chicken Pecker. We're all waiting with eager ears and 
baited breath.
LMAO.
....................................................................
Here it is for you Engineer Sam(cough, cough ).

It is not a local Union meeting, it's much bigger than that. It is top
secret. I've already called NoMo and RRJ to tell them about it. I
e-mailed everyone else on the site except you. I even called Goober. By
the way he could answer the 2 top secret questions I asked you, so I
gave him all the top secret information about our top secret meeting. I
will drop you a hint. The meeting opened in hysterical laughter about
some dumb ass on CSX-sucks named Sam. You made Union history Sam.
Everyone did send their condolences, hoping the meds helped you get
well from the MPD.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Loco30+ blames the FRA, the Company, the Unions, and the apathetic
membership for allowing our present state of dis-array. As for the 
Selkirk murder - everyone else is to blame - you dont want to strike,
you hate the present union, you dont want a new union, you want change
but dont know how to do it, you dont want anyone's advice or opinion
on how to change anything because you have all the answers - all
negative,  and no one else knows anything anyway and were all going to
hell in a hand basket cause there is no hope.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

There you go twisting words and even putting some new ones in.

I never said I was against a safety strike. I said it wouldn't happen
with out the internationals approval. The blame on the murder in
Selkirk falls on CSX. I said that from the start. Yes the FRA,
railroads and unions are all to blame in letting the railroads run
rampant with regards to safety. I never said I hated the present union,
I said they were out of touch with the men in the trenches. You never
have give facts or opinions on how to change things, all you do is
rant. I told you how to start changing things from the start and all
you want to do is keep posting under a thousand names.
Theres plenty of hope. 

I see you couldn't answer some simple questions either Loco. 30 plus.
Tried to avoid 2 simple questions you were asked, by dishing out more
BS, the way you always do.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Old Sam says he is the best Engineer.
(No, there your go misquoting again - got dementia? I said I was a
better engineer than YOU, peckerhead, which isn't saying much since
all the other engineers are better than you too). 

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Duh, What did I say. Read my words , you said you were the best
engineer. So are you now saying your not the best engineer, that I am.
DUHHHHHHHHHHH.

Name: sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Chicken Pecker's feathers got ruffled.  Look out!  He's jumpin around
like a Mexican jelly bean.  Goober is laughing his ass off. 

Old Sam says he is the best Engineer.
(No, there your go misquoting again - got dementia? I said I was a
better engineer than YOU, peckerhead, which isn't saying much since
all the other engineers are better than you too). 

Explain how to obtain a AB release on conventional 2nd generation
locomotives or newer. 
(oh good lord, chicken pecker, now your going to waste everyone's time
telling us how smart and brainy you are with locomotives. Professor
Chicken Pecker, PhD (piled higher, deeper) at your service). 

I have Union business to attend to.
(LOL. Pleae lord make me stop laughing. Your killn me.  Chicken Pecker,
we can only guess what "union business" your attending to ...let's
see, what's on the agenda today?  "Curly, your in charge of hand'n
out beer. Moe, your on lookout duty for Trainmasters.  Larry, your in
charge of Moe and Curly. Chicken Pecker, your in charge of the Turkey
Baster." 

Loco30+ blames the FRA, the Company, the Unions, and the apathetic
membership for allowing our present state of dis-array. As for the 
Selkirk murder - everyone else is to blame - you dont want to strike,
you hate the present union, you dont want a new union, you want change
but dont know how to do it, you dont want anyone's advice or opinion
on how to change anything because you have all the answers - all
negative,  and no one else knows anything anyway and were all going to
hell in a hand basket cause there is no hope.

If you ask me, that's not a leader.  That sounds like someone ready to
dig a hole and make a grave for themselves.  

Make sure you give us a full report on your Local Union Meet'n with
the boys, Chicken Pecker. We're all waiting with eager ears and 
baited breath.
LMAO.

Name: lemon head
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 May 2009

in june the hours of service law will kick in and help right???

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

RRJ and I know there is only one Goober.

Name: Goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 May 2009

I am not Sam.  Or, maybe I am.  Ha ha.  You'll NEVER know.  Ha Ha.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

He's not Goober, RRJ. I just gave Sam (Loyd, George etc etc) or what
ever name he uses today the insult of saying he may be Goober. He still
thinks we are one person. I see he didn't take me up on the offer of
letting the webbie post that we were different people, if he would let
the webmaster post how many names he post under.

No he's not Goober. Goober just pops in every 4 or 5 days when he gets
off his meds.

Old Sam says he is the best Engineer. As long as they send me my check
and I make it home every trip, I will let him claim the title, for we
know Sam is always correct in his view. Good engineers don't have to
appoint themselves as being good, everyone knows who are good, bad or
the best. It shows everyday they run. He tells us everyday in very long
boring threads how smart and good he is. He already showed me who he is
and how he thinks, when he kept up the post on the wish list. Every
time I think about it I laugh. Two pages of stupidity posted on his
part.

Here's your chance to prove you are a engineer, Sam. I even posted
this one time on here for a student engineer. Explain how to obtain a
AB release on conventional 2nd generation locomotives or newer.

Are you a UTUE also? Must be not knowing anything about the BLE.
Talking all your bull shit about a secret site for members only. You
looked like a total idiot. Any engineer with 30 years service knows how
to log in to OUR web site, except Sam.

Well Sam I won't have time to keep you honest for a few days. I have
Union business to attend to. Something you like to talk about, but are
clueless in. Why don't you get off your ass and go to a union meeting,
ask any engineer there how to get your password for the BLE site. In
fact you can sign up on line if you know the right answers to give.
HHmmmmmmmmm, 30 years, must have got to run from the jump seat a few
times in his life, looking out the port hole. LMFAO
OH NO, Sam has to go google now or ask someone so he can answer.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 May 2009

the webmaster can block him, just has to ban his ip address...and if he
is on dialup just block the whole ip subnet he is under.

Name: Sam the Railroad Man
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Sorry Z, you lost the Zorro title after posting you that you are in real
life a drunken Japanese one-legged chicken pecking kung foo wocki socki
bedroom fighter. 

I think Chicken Pecker has an FELA claim against CSX for intentional
infliction of mental psychosis brought on by a trainmaster's post
hypnotic suggestion that changed him into a Japanese Chicken Pecker in
accordance with the CSX Black Belt Program.      

If your 100% union, that's good.  We will let you carry a sign on the
picket line from midnight to 8 - less chance for you to get into
trouble.  

Lloyd is correct.  With the NS joining the strike, the outcome will be
pre-ordained and it wont be pretty for the roads. I will enjoy seeing
Mike Ward sweat in front of an angry panel of Senators on Capital Hill
in front of a national television audience - and then he and his
cronies will be summarily fired.   

As for you Chicken Pecker, will cut you some slack due to your
'condition'.  Sorry I dont speak Chickenese, but here is some
Japanese for you:  Momotaro wa oui no taisho to tatakaimashita, lil
spunky chicken.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

I never thought about it. Goober/Goofy is another idiot that might be
posting under various names & titles. Good one. It definitely has his
style of stupidity.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 May 2009

RRJ is a dumb ass.  He posts under different IDs - Loco30+, Allman
Brothers, and a bunch of others too long to go into. Too bad we cant
block him off this site.

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Block all you want, you will be blocking a lot of us Sam. Why don't
you get one name and stay with it, you chicken butt licker. Allman
Brothers, RRJ and NoMo say your Goober posting as Sam and 2000 more
names. If you don't believe we are different people e-mail the
webmaster and ask if it's 3 different people. I also go by Z because
Sambo gave me the name Zorro. Which he was right, I'm everywhere and
100 percent union. I dream union in my sleep, that is if I slept.

Let's see if Sam has the same nuts to get the webmaster to post how
many names he post under and we shall see how many times he answers
himself. He hasn't got any nuts though. Hes been a gilding since he
went to work for the RR,

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 May 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 May 2009

RRj you dont know what your talking about at russell conductors dont
have to take a call, you can even ansewer and say no,  unless its your
job and your turn, no one can force you to step up, also cut back
engineers cant be forced to step up to run a engine they do cause they
want to make as much as they can I agree with conductor 1-10 there
suck
asses.
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RRJ is a dumbass.  He posts under different IDs - Loco30+, Allman
Brothers, and a bunch of others too long to go into. Too bad we cant
block him off this site.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 May 2009

HELLO FELLAS I WANTED TO KNOW IF ANY CONDUCTORS or engineers HAVE
DELIVERED COAL TO KINDER MORGAN IN NEWPORT NEWS VIRGINIA?

WHO FIXES THE TRACK ON THEIR PROPERTY AND CAN I HAVE SOME INSIGHT ON
THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE? anything would be apreciated, and good luck
out there rail roaders it's tough, thanks.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 May 2009

RRj you dont know what your talking about at russell conductors dont
have to take a call, you can even ansewer and say no,  unless its your
job and your turn, no one can force you to step up, also cut back
engineers cant be forced to step up to run a engine they do cause they
want to make as much as they can I agree with conductor 1-10 there suck
asses.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 May 2009

To all the guys at Russell stepping up to help the company I hope your
making plenty of money while 81 of sit at home, most not able to draw
anything till july 1. I'll remember who you are, and also why don't
you all just apply for management jobs since your so concerned with
doing CSX favors you greedy non union acting suck asses, your the
reason why our unions are week.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 May 2009

thank you very much for the input wildman, the type of jobs that i was
looking at with kinder morgan were:
maintenance man, compared to(csx freight cart repair)
facility worker, compared to (csx track worker)
loader, compared to (csx heavy equipment operator)
machinist, compared to (csx machinist), and i also think that kinder
morgan is a non union if i am not mistaken, just wanted to know who
would i be better off.  i do not know if any one on this site has any
one that works or knows of kinder morgan.  I also know this web site
says CSX sucks but it could be worth a try, any inputs will be greatly
apreciated. thanks railroaders!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 May 2009

hello, rail roaders!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO IS IT BETTER TO WORK FOR AS FAR AS A MAINTENANCE WORKER, CSX OR
KINDERMORGAN (PLANT OR COAL YARD)!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE NEED ALL INPUTS I AM
TRYING TO SAVE MY SELF FROM MAKING A BIG MISTAKE, NEED HELP!

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 May 2009

Has anyone performed a whizzinator check on our union lately to see if
is has any balls?

Name: SAM
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 May 2009

Z, you back from Grandma's house?  How were your milk and cookies? 

Oh - my - god.  Just posted this on every section.  whaddayaknow. 

Say Z,  when the CSX homos demand you pee in their bottle while they
hold your Johnson to ensure authenticity of personal urination,
you gonna thank the Unions for their support?  LOL.

Dont forget - milk and cookies at 5.

Name: SAFETY STRIKE
E-mail: SAFETY STRIKE. COM
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 May 2009

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 May 2009

Is there any reason why we need more that one board to post?

I'm getting tired of reading folks complaining about multiple posts!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 May 2009

I only worked at csx for 89 days before i got laid off. anyone know when
they will call back?

Name: SAFETY STRIKE
E-mail: WWW.SAFETY STRIKE.COM
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 May 2009

When they strip me down to check out my WhizzyInAteHer, assume the CSX
queers will be trying to suck me off as part of their safety
enforcement "duties". 

This is all a diversion from the real issue - CSX is killing and
injuring employees, and they are trying to blame the worker for their
unsafe working conditions. 

I can remember when the Trainmaster would pour alchohol on the corpse
and then claim the guy was drunk.  

Cover ups and lies. That's all it is.  


SAFETY STRIKE!

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 May 2009

Dear All-

On Friday the 15th, the United States Court of Appeals in D.C. decided
a case styled BNSF v. Dept. of Transportation. It has to do with the
railroads performing urinalysis tests on railroad employees but there
is more. The DOT argued and prevailed that the railroad must now strip
the person down to make sure they are not using a device that looks
like male genitalia (in the opinion it was called a "Whizzinator"
but, apparently, there are others)when giving the urine. I have posted
an article in Yardlimits.com and attached the opinion in a Microsoft
Word attachment so you can download it and read it for yourself. 

The link is here:
http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/ask-attorney-steve-gordon-gordon-elias-law-firm/12298-casey-jones-whizzinator-gig-no-good.html#post114211

From an academic constitutional law perspective it is a monumental and
radical departure from 4th Amendment precedent albeit a foreseeable
result due to the compelling need to have a drug free workplace in the
transportation industry. However, from a railroad employee's
perspective it is extremely intrusive and embarrassing.

I highly recommend reading the opinion.

Sincerely,

Steve Gordon
www.gordon-elias.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 May 2009

Greece, N.Y)- Some abandoned CSX cars that left people in a Greece
neighborhood with eyesores in their backyard, were finally moved
Saturday. 

The cars were sitting just feet from neighbors backyards for weeks. CSX
blamed the recession as the reason, saying consumers are buying less
therefore rail cars shipping less.

Neighbors in the Pebbleview Neighborhood say they're thankful that the
cars are no longer there.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 May 2009

"the railway company CSX, placed the property in Chapter 11 bankruptcy
reorganization, telling a judge that it was "unable and unwilling to
continue funding" losses."


If CSX can go bankrupt on an individual property, Please, Please Go
bankrupt on the Conrail properties from 1999. Return them to a Good
railroad company.

Thanks 

:)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 May 2009

"the railway company CSX, placed the property in Chapter 11 bankruptcy
reorganization, telling a judge that it was "unable and unwilling to
continue funding" losses."



WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, W.Va. -- The Greenbrier resort's new owner --
the man who outmaneuvered the mighty Marriott International -- is a
coal baron who just sold some mines to the Russians for $436 million.
He is enormous and boisterous, standing 6-foot-7 and weighing enough
that he calls himself a "fat hog." He is the president of the local
youth baseball league and coach of the girls' high school basketball
team and is driven around town by his buddy Moe. 

"These people haven't seen anything quite like me," James C. Justice
II said the other day, over a sandwich and fries at the resort. 

And neither has Marriott, which last night agreed to a settlement with
Justice to avoid a battle in federal bankruptcy court in Richmond,
where the two sides were scheduled to wrangle for control of the
historic resort -- the place where Joseph and Rose Kennedy honeymooned
and 26 presidents have visited. (Prince Rainier and Princess Grace
stopped by, too.) 

With Justice winning control, some residents said, he will forever be
seen as a savior to this quiet town in the mountains whose fortunes
have fallen alongside the resort. The Greenbrier has endured hundreds
of layoffs and brutal labor negotiations amid a steep drop-off in guest
visits. The prospect that a local man, not some corporate muckety-muck,
could be signing their paychecks had even led residents to pack
churches and praise Justice. 

"I believe the Good Lord sent him for us," said Greg Scott, a
preacher and doorman at the hotel for more than a dozen years who has
seen 14 of his neighbors laid off. "We had no hopes, no plans. It was
a glorious day when he arrived." 

That was less than two weeks ago, after Justice surprised the town and
executives at Bethesda-based Marriott International by announcing that
he had bought the resort for $20 million. In March, the hotel's
previous owner, the railway company CSX, placed the property in Chapter
11 bankruptcy reorganization, telling a judge that it was "unable and
unwilling to continue funding" losses. 

As part of the bankruptcy, CSX made a deal to sell the resort to
Marriott for $60 million to $130 million, depending on the resort's
future financial performance. CSX also agreed to give Marriott $50
million to run the hotel. The deal was contingent on CSX winning an
agreement with the resort's unions that was also agreeable to
Marriott. An accord was reached, and everything was looking spiffy for
the world's largest hotel chain. 

But Justice, who owns coal mines and large farming operations in
several nearby states, was lurking. He went to CSX in April, offering
to buy the stock in the entity that owned the resort, assume the debt
and move to have the bankruptcy case dismissed -- an unusual step,
according to bankruptcy experts, who said buyers usually prefer to
acquire assets out of bankruptcy free of debt. Why would Justice go
through all the trouble to take on a business he knows nothing about
and take on more than $100 million in bills? 

He said it had nothing to with the state recently approving casino
gambling at the resort: "That's just bull snot," Justice said. 

"I don't want to damage these people anymore. I live here. I don't
want to dash their hopes," he said. "I am honestly stone-cold
confident that I can bring to the table a lot of good stuff. I won't
be the guy who thinks with the standard hotel mentality. This place
can't be run that way." 

Marriott officials met with Justice in Lewisburg, W.Va., yesterday to
strike a deal. Under their settlement, both sides have 30 days to come
to an agreement allowing Marriott to market the property and receive a
fee for any guests it generates for the resort. If an agreement is not
reached, Justice will pay a $7.5 million breakup fee, Justice said. 

"We have amicably resolved any dispute with Mr. Justice, and we will
not oppose the motion to dismiss the bankruptcy," Marriott said in a
statement. 

No matter what the outcome of the talks, Justice has won total control
of the Greenbrier. 

"I needed the control," Justice said in an interview. "I'd be
letting these people down without it." 


Justice won over the community by hiring back furloughed workers and
reopening the union contract to increase health insurance and other
benefits, including allowing employees to eat one meal a day at the
resort. 

Last week, West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin III (D) and Sen. John D.
Rockefeller IV threw their support behind Justice, saying he's the
right person to run the national historic landmark. A four-hour drive
from Washington, Greenbrier features 721 rooms, 10 lobbies, three golf
courses, a large medical clinic for executive checkups and a
once-secret bunker for Congress to convene in the event of a nuclear
attack. 

"I would hope Marriott sees we have someone here with the passion, the
wherewithal and the resources to own the Greenbrier," Manchin said in
an interview. Rockefeller sent Justice a handwritten note saying: "I
can't tell how proud I am of you and how happy I am for West Virginia.
Without a doubt you have absolutely saved the Greenbrier." 

White Sulphur Springs, like many small towns, harbors resentment toward
corporate America, which has brought Wal-Marts and other big-box stores
to town and -- in the view of some residents -- sucked local businesses
dry. On Main Street, barber Mike Lane can look through the shop's
window and see that all of the stores across the street are for rent. 

"Are they going to crumble, or are there going to be some businesses
there?" Lane said. "I'd like to see more businesses. I'd like to
cut more hair." He said he thinks someone with ties to the town has a
more vested interest in the resort. "I want him to do well," he said.


Peter Bostic, the union's business manager, agreed with Lane. "He
will hold the place closer to the chest than an international
company," Bostic said. 

Justice said his immediate goals include beginning work on a casino,
but more important, he wants to win back the resort's Mobil five-star
rating, which it lost in 1999. The key to earning that fifth star, he
said, was improving his employees' outlook. His theory is that if his
employees are happy, they will make the guests happy. If that sounds
familiar, it's what J.W. Marriott Jr. has preached for decades. 

"I think it's all driven by state of mind," Justice said. "These
people here are great. But how great can you be when you are worried if
your family is going to be supported? These people have been through a
really tough go of it and so we are in the process of lifting the cloud
and bringing the sun back out."

Name: Jacksonville Division
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 May 2009

We need to Safety Strike, even if it means a WILD CAT. 

The unions dont care.  who needs them. 

WILD CAT STRIKE - SAFETY STRIKE.

Name: clyde B.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 May 2009

The Union needs to call a SAFETY STIKE.   

CSX will kill, maim or injure all of us. They dont care. 

STRIKE!

Name: FUQCSX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 May 2009

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Name: SAM the RAILROAD MAN
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 May 2009

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Name: Ennis
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2009

I was saddened to hear about a fallen brother in Selkirk. I do not know
the details of this tragic accident. My sympathy goes to his family. I
do believe that CSX has put men in harms way in order to save a few
dollars. I cannot understand a 1 man remote job- IT IS UNSAFE! I cannot
understand a yard job with just an engineer and a foreman. All yard jobs
should have a switchman, and all remotes should have 2 men. Why did the
unions let them cut the jobs? I hate RCO jobs! I believe for safety
reasons that WE should DEMAND change! I call for a SAFETY STRIKE! I am
only one man/ one voice, but I realize that under these working
conditions, Each and every one of us is at risk every day we are out
here. One thing I have seen is a bunch of apathy in most workers here
at CSX. The Company is run like crap! A bunch of morons making stupid
decisions that affect our lives- LITERALLY! WE need to show solidarity
to effect change. Everyone here knew it was just a matter of time until
someone paid the ultimate sacrifice. Thank God that you are able to read
this today, because it could be you tomorrow. Again, I feel for this
man's family in their time of grief; my prayers are with them. If the
allegations are correct about the TM, then someone needs to take him
for a long walk. I hope the family sues for Billion$. I hope they
bankrupt this Company! SAFETY STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 May 2009

Dear All-

I am a lawyer that sues railroads. In our firms experience, only in
VERY rare circumstances, do the railroads ever try to be fair to an
injured employee. Ninety-nine percent of the time, the exact moment you
make a report of injury you become the "enemy". It does not matter
that you have given all you have to give for the railroad. CSX is, by
far, the worst of the worst. They will convince people to lie about
their injury after persuading them not to make a report. They will
actually fly head honchos in from Jacksonville to do this. They know
the person got hurt at work but they will just stand their and watch
the person make a false statement after hours of intimidation. We like
suing railroads and we like getting Managers under oath. Their evil
ways do not stop with just injuries. They will do the same to a widow
and try and quick settle with them.

Sincerely,

Lie Hunter

Name: Michael Lindsey--UP Conductor
E-mail: usdevildog1987@hotmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 May 2009

That is terrible about the fatality on CSX the other night.  I HATE
RCL's HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE THEM.    They are dangerous as
hell.  When I first hired out for the UP in Oakland, CA someone was run
over and cut in half while operating a remote.  Yet, the Class 1's love
to save money, even at the expense of efficiency and more importantly,
lives.   What ever happened to the days of honesty, for the sake of
doing what is right????  I would rather be furloughed than to work RCL.
  Does anyone know the details of the story  (when, where, how, who)  I
would like to submit this to the national news.  Someone should.  How
is it that baseball players on steroids, or the miss america pageant
are on the news for days, but when it comes to reporting a death on one
of the unsafe class 1's, it is always covered up.....AND NEVER REPORTED
  Why........

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2009

Criminal charges should be pursued by this family, against the
trainmaster as well as csx, accidental deaths are prosecutable if there
was neglect, and the trainmaster definitely showed neglect. The coverup
is underway.

Name: SAM, the UNION MAN
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 May 2009

STRIKE.  UNSAFE WORKING CONDITIONS. STRIKE. 

STRIKE. STRIKE. STRIKE. STRIKE. STRIKE. STRIKE. STRIKE. STRIKE.

How many times does it have to be said?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 May 2009

A UTU member was fatally injured tonight on a one man remote control
assignment which was an East End puller in Selkirk, NY.  I have been
advised he was ordered to change a knuckle by himself after requesting
assistance from the car department.  The unofficial report is he twice
requested assistance from the car department as was ordered both times
by the trainmaster in charge he would be required to change the knuckle
without the assistance of the car department

Name: avejoe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2009

hey there shockey there is nothing wrong with hairy women maybe black
women but not hairy  lol

fuck csx fuck the econmy and fuck all those working for csx makin the
big bucks i see you drive by and flip you off 
sorry in advance for this lol

Name: Justin Shockey
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 May 2009

Matt Sanders loves fat, black, hairy woman from what I hear when I went
to my investigation the other day.  Look out Predator!!!!  He is coming
for you!!!hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahha  And winning an arguement
from a CSX employee in Baltimore (LET ALONE IF IT IS ON LINE OR NOT) is
not hard.  It is LIKE FIGHTING IN THE SPECIAL
OLYMPICS!!!hahahahahahhahahahahaha  Just working there is a tribute to
the special Olympics!!!hahahahahahah  Dumbass waterheads!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 May 2009

The Cock Sucker Xpress is looking for a few good cock suckers to fill up
TM slots.   

All you ass kissin sausage lickn butt sniffin collatobors start linin
up.

Name: 
E-mail: BNSFis the BEST
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 May 2009

We call them the Cock Sucker Express on our rails.  LOL   Run by 
Cock Suckers in Jacksonville and other places.   High rate of gays run
CSX   Maybe that is why it is so fucked up.

BNSF is a real railroad run better than the rest.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 May 2009

Need more monikers for CSX?  Try these:

Common Sense eXtinct

Crappy Shitty eXpress

Crashed, Smashed, eXploded

Crooked Sadistic eXecutives

Cut (jobs) Screw (employees & customers) eXterminate (morale)

Name: Santa's Little Helper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 May 2009

CSX stands for Chicken Shit Xpress

Name: Santa's Little Helper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 May 2009

CSX stands for Chicken Shit Express

Name: Michael Lindsey
E-mail: usdevildog1987@hotmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 May 2009

You know, CSX is just as bad as any of the Class 1's.  I work for the
UP in Pocatello, ID, although I have followed my seniority all the way
to Las Vegas, NV, Salt Lake City, Los Angeles, Sacramento, and all
places in between.  No matter what the sacrifices that you make for
them, they will never thank you, they will never give you
encouragement, they will never pay you what they owe you, and then they
will just furlough you when times get a little slow....and throw you out
like a piece of garbage.  After 3 years of doing everything that was
required of me, and working hard for their benefit, my wife and I are
starving and about to loose our house and our car because they cannot
see any way to not furlough me.    Meanwhile, the boards are being kept
really short, and crews are almost always turning on their rest.  Many
times there is not even a crew ready to be called, but yet there are
almost 500 people in my seniority district cut off.  Yeah, that makes a
ton of since.........Its all the same, whether your on the  "Usually
Parked Railroad," the "Bigger Now Still Fucked Railroad" the "Nazi
Southern Railroad" or the CSX (I dont know a good acronym)  They like
to give their train crew employees the shaft.  Nothing you can do to
change it, because the union lets them get away with it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 May 2009

From the REAL FOGHORN LEGHORN,

     That sounds like something I WOULD LOVE TO DO!!!!!  I have to
agree with the gentleman below who tried to use my nickname to cover up
for himself.  But I have to give respect to him for two reasons:

1) He used my nickname to say something "I" would love to do and he
used my name because he STILL works at that shit hole unlike me because
I am more intelligent than any CSX management, let alone CSX employee in
Baltimore and got the hell out when the timing was right!!!  (I realize
this website is looked at globally, let alone nation wide.  But that
doesn't take much to be more intelligent than anyone in
Baltimore...PERIOD!!)

2) I consider you a gentleman for being on the same page I am.  I
honestly consider that a compliment and THANK YOU!!:0):0):0):0)...Use
my nickname all you want!!!!!  Have a safe CSX DAY!!!  Safety is a way
of life!!!  You will need it in BALTIMORE!!!LMAO LMAO LMAO  No matter
what route you go!!!...  :0):0):0)....

FOGHORN LEGHORN.......(Whats up Danny??)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 May 2009

Well Lloyd, I was prepared to join you in the great CSX swine flu
epidemic yesterday, but I got cut off again and couldn't even hold
anything to mark off from... but I was there with you guys that had the
balls to do it in spirit.  I hope the HOS law comes into effect shortly
and is not delayed again and Mikey Ward and the boys take it straight
up the arse!!!  Maybe some of our furloughed brothers and sisters can
actually mark back up then!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 May 2009

How does Will have time to go to parties?  I guess being Bob Frulla's
nephew has its privileges.

Name: foghorn leghorn
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 May 2009

Last night, I fucked Michael Ward's soon- to -be ex- wife. I bent that
little whore like a pretzel and shot a load in her ass. It was the
least I could do for the team. Video footage to follow.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 May 2009

In re the post from the new hire con that was recently furloughed.

I know this won't be much solace to you and your furloughed Brothers
and Sisters...you have heard tales of woe from old head
engineers and conductors. Being furloughed for years at a time for
their first 20 years of service.

If I remember correctly, most of the tales involved being furloughed 
in late September or October and usually lasted 6 months or more...In
my case I hired out (May) in Mobile and was forced to New Orleans to
cub. I was furloughed after Labor Day for about 6 months.

For the last 4 or 5 years the bitching about being furloughed has
started after Labor Day depending on the terminal and rolls across the
system with the recalls starting around Easter.

The carrier and the union has done an abysmal job of projecting
manpower needs...nothing like being furloughed at Christmas!

You didn't mention how many years of service you have...if you lasted
until March you probably have 3+. The bitching about furloughs really
didn't crank up until after the first of the year.

I made a post last summer about the economy, furlough season starting
early, cutting deep and lasting long. I hope I'm wrong, only time will
tell.

You no doubt have been following the often heated debate about
union representation and responsiveness to their memberships.

Perhaps the widespread furloughs didn't start until after the holidays
can be attributed to the union and the carrier...it would be nice to at
least think so. The economy was in the tank at the end of last
summer...that's when the furlough should have started. Then
again the discipline policy could have played a part!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 May 2009

Goobers in the bottle again. He's tighter than dicks hat band. Old
drunk lush, I say.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 May 2009

How sorry can a person really BE. Furloughed in March 2009. Was called
back with other starving conductors and made more in 4 weeks than he
made in 2 months. This dude just want's a steady pay check. Those
job's are easy to find.
 Mgt say's no more lay off's, are you kidding me!  We have a
recruiting failure. Sure hope he has paid his union dues,and red board
insurance. cause he just might not have any support with out them. HE
HE
As far as just a number and subject to CSX needs you are right. That is
exactly what you are. Might be hard to swallow, you might want to get
comfortable with it slowly???
 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 April 2009

I got furloughed in march and sat at home listening to guys from work
bitching about how much they were working. 8 on 8 off for those guys
the whole time I was off. times got tough for the queensgate yard. the
crew callers couldn't fill jobs half the time so they called me and 9
other starving conductors back. the management at QUEENSGATE said we
wouldn't have to worry about being laid off again, but here I sit 4
weeks later furloughed again. I made more money in the 4 weeks back
than i did in the first 2 months of the year. So what is my point? CSX
MANAGEMENT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOUR FAMILY, YOU ARE JUST A
NUMBER SUBJECT TO THEIR NEEDS!!! WHEN THEY NEED YOU YOU BETTER ANSWER
WHEN YOU NEED THEM YOU GET AN ANSWERING MACHINE AND NO RETURN CALLS OR
EXPLANATION WHY!!! I know times are bad economically, but there is
plenty of work in Cincinnati to have kept us on the xtraboard.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 April 2009

This is for Will:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYYbfwYlfu4

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 April 2009

God I love fat woman!!!:0)  So does Will Blanchetti apparently..  He
came to our party the other night with this woman.  I swear to you, if
this woman wore high heels, we were striking oil!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 April 2009

I got furloughed in march and sat at home listening to guys from work
bitching about how much they were working. 8 on 8 off for those guys
the whole time I was off. times got tough for the queensgate yard. the
crew callers couldn't fill jobs half the time so they called me and 9
other starving conductors back. the management at QUEENSGATE said we
wouldn't have to worry about being laid off again, but here I sit 4
weeks later furloughed again. I made more money in the 4 weeks back
than i did in the first 2 months of the year. So what is my point? CSX
MANAGEMENT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOUR FAMILY, YOU ARE JUST A
NUMBER SUBJECT TO THEIR NEEDS!!! WHEN THEY NEED YOU YOU BETTER ANSWER
WHEN YOU NEED THEM YOU GET AN ANSWERING MACHINE AND NO RETURN CALLS OR
EXPLANATION WHY!!! I know times are bad economically, but there is
plenty of work in Cincinnati to have kept us on the xtraboard.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 April 2009

Never have I seen a company get away with not paying employees their due
and we get no help from the unions, federal government, labor relations,
or anyone else.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 April 2009

Hey Will Blanchetti, I hope to see you in Blacksburg this fall. Come by
the south end of the stadium by RV parking (Diamond hokie lot where all
REAL hokie fans are).  I will be waiting for you!!!  Bring Matt "THE
RAT" Sanders with you.  I have a couple of boys that you might know
that would like to say hello.  Just old alumni that would like to share
a beer or two with you or BLOODY Mary's!!!!!  Have a safe CSX day and
hope to see you soon....:0):0):0)

Name: maverick
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 April 2009

You railroad clowns make me laugh. You think your Unions represent you?
You think the Unions need your dues to exist? WRONG! The carriers pay
the Unions more money per year than you will ever know...Because it is
illegal! But hey, It's America....Everything is ok. You clowns think
that a Union will stand up for you- when you pansies won't even stand
up for yourselves. Hilarious to think about what rights and privileges
you clowns have squandered over the years. Real Trainmen died to get
you these Unions and you pansies disgrace the memories of the real
trainmen that built this country. You boys got no backbone, so why do
you think your unions would be any different. Ask your union this:
'what have you done for me lately?' NOTHING?! And how much did it
cost you last year in dues? Wake Up, Get Up, Stand Up!

Name: Chicken slack action pants
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2009

You see, the position I'm in my personal life affords me the
opportunity to see management in a unique way.

Example:

I was walking down the street one day, minding my own business and then
suddenly, A pile of fresh steaming pile of dog shit, un-molested by
flys¥   looked up at me and said, "You're no fucking good."

See where I'm getting at? 



 
¥  A pile of fresh steaming pile of dog shit, un-molested by flys = CSX
management.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 April 2009

Jax Division is so fucked up like the rest of the other divisions. Don
Jones who the fuck made this guy a division manager? Seriously is he an
alcoholic?? If not he's on something. Same thing here Rube, heard about
Pensacola, keep your heads up high on the P&A/PD

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2009

Just thought I would share this tid bit about our glorious csx, I was
injured on the job, payrol shorted my check the last day I worked, I
called them and they acknowledged error, check earning statement and
payrol deducted all towards health ins, all 117. of it, wow, heartless,
no money comin in and they needed this. I hope this money pays for 1 of
mikeys cigars.

Name: Chicken slack action pants
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2009

The murder-suicide of the Billotti-Wood family

Scholars link Wood's stressful work situation as an employee for CSX
Railroad



http://www.gazette.net/stories/04232009/urbanew172707_32531.shtml

Name: turtlehead
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 April 2009

I heard that same shit, Rube. Hell, I heard more like 3 years or even
turning P'cola into a Flomerton. You boys in the JAX division are
getting the root buried all up in your guts. Stay strong, brothers.
Remember May 1rst! " We must all hang together, or surely we will all
hang separately!" Make May 1rst a day to spend at home with your
families. Take one day out of your busy life and do not even think
about CSX or working. I wonder how many brothers will do that? I never
met a bunch of men that talked so much shit, but bowed down like little
bitches. And you oldheads are the worst ones- ya'll need testosterone
injections cause ya'll done sold your souls so many times you cannot
hardly consider yourselves men anymore. I'm just Sayin'

Name: Rube
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 April 2009

They been talkin' 'bout shuttin' down the P&A/PD for awhile now. I
heard Tommy got a bonus for reducing the manpower there in Pensacola.
Furloughs = brownie points with management. Melvin said they gonna run
everthing off extra boards in May. and they gonna furlough about 10-20
more people there. So, look out Mobile! Them boys is coming and if you
ain't got 6-7 years seniority= welcome to furlough city or New
Orleans. I'd rather be furloughed than live in that shit hole! Good
Luck and Hope it don't last 2 more years like they been sayin'.

Name:  average joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 April 2009

hey guys i dont know who zorro or nomo are but im joe not a ghost
account controlled by another member 
so there

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 April 2009

BOB FRULLA FOURLOUGHING AGAIN IN ERWIN AND AROUND THE HUNTINGTON
DEVISION. FUNNY MR FRULLA HOW LAST TIME YOU CUTT EVERYONE HERE OFF YOU
HAD CREW CALLERS CALLING ME TELLING ME YOU HAD TRAINS TIED DOWN
EVERYWHERE WHITH NO ONE TO MOVE THEM. YOU COULD NOT FILL YOUR REGULAR
ASSIGNMENTS, YOU DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH MAN POWER TO RUN THE ERWIN AREA
AND IM SURE THE REST OF THE HUNTINGTON DEVISION THEN YOU CALL US BACK
AND HAS TROUBLE GETTING PEOPLE TO MARK BACK UP BE FOR SURE MR FRULLA
THAT THIS TIME WHEN YOU HAVE TRAINS SITTING AND JOBS ARE UNFILLED AND
YOU HAVE TO CUT THE FOURLOUGH BOARD THAT YOULL BE WITHOUT THE MANPOWER
BECAUSE NO ONE HERE IS MARKING UP UNTIL THE VERY LAST MINUTE THEY HAVE
TO OR EVEN LONGER IT HAS DONE BEEN DISSCUSSED. TREAT US LIKE WE ARE
NOTHING THATS WHAT YOULL GET IN RETURN. EVERYTIME YOU FOURLOUGH MONTH
ON AND MONTH OFF WITH NO NOTICE YOU JUST CAUSE PEOPLE TO HATE THIS
COMPANY MORE. fOR THE OLD HEADS WHO ARE RACKING A NICE
4,000-5,000-6,000 OR MORE CHECK EVERY HALF WITH 50 GUYS CUTT BACK
REMEMEBER THAT YOUR FUCKING US UP THE ASS AS MUCH AS MR FRULLA IS. IF
EVERYONE WOULD TAKE A FUCKING DAY OFF EVERY HALF IT WOULD SURELY HELP
EVERYONE OUT. AND BEFORE YOU RESPOND TO THIS DONT GIVE ME THAT FUCKING
IVE BEEN THERE AND I DIDNT GO OUT AND GET IN DEPHT FUNNY TO ME THAT THE
RAILROADS GOT YOUR NUTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU RETIRE BECAUSE YOUR FUCKING
SOAKING IN LOADS OF FUCKING DEPHT!

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 April 2009

Thanks to all the Brothers who have responded in a responsible and
constructive way to the Union problem. 

Guys, if possible, please post your Union membership contact
information lists on this site. 

Thank you.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 April 2009

Here is what our Company-Sponsored Unions have to say about Railroad
rank and file (read Company-Sponsored posts by Loco30+ - the
Company-Boot Stomping Union Man - see for yourself how the Unions
think, and what kind of union "representation" we have....):  

The Railroad rank and file have no power. 

The rank and file likes to get screwed – so we (the Company sponsored
unions)  help the company put the screws to you.  

Railroad workers have no hope. 

Railroad workers have no rights. 

Railroad workers can’t strike.

Railroad workers can’t take a sick day off. 

Railroad workers can’t get a funeral day off. 

Railroad workers who get hurt, get punished. 

Railroad workers must work in ultra-hazardous conditions without
adequate safety protection. 

Railroad workers don’t like progressive unions. 

Continuous uninterruped employment for railroad workers will NEVER
happen.  

Railroad workers who want continuous employment are Communists. 

Railroad workers can only hope to live in Company homes and live on
Company coupons. 

Martin Luther King’s “I have a dream” speech does not apply to railroad
workers. 

Railroad workers don't care what happens to them or their families.

Railroad workers want bad union representation. 

Railroad workers want Unions to give away all their rights.  

Organizing a new, better, pro-active, assertive and competent Union is
a  "pipe dream". 

Anyone who trys to improve work conditions for the railroad rank and
file is mentally ill. 

Developing a new Union is Bad - too many pro-worker ideas. 

Railroad workers like to take it in the ass.

The Company sponsored Unions have all the answers - the rest of us are
dumb asses.

And on and on it goes. 

The ONLY possible answer to this assinine bubble-headed nazi boot
stomping regime is to DE-CERTIFY THE OLD UNIONS, UNITE RAILROAD WORKERS
UNDER ONE UNION, ELECT COMPETENT OFFICIALS THAT KNOW HOW TO REPRESENT
RANK AND FILE - AND PRODUCE POSITIVE RESULTS! 

Read the prior post on how to De-Certify the Railroad Unions, which is
stated in the post on the Railway Labor Act (thanks to Larry for the
positive input!) . 

Add to the goals set forth in the new Union Platform. 

POST YOUR SUGGESTIONS.

Name: Somebody who cares
E-mail: Congrats CSX@fu.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 April 2009

http://blackpoliticalthought.blogspot.com/2009/04/christopher-wood-33-kills-his-wife.html





Sad part was you never heard of this guy on the news working for CSX!!!
 How much did you pay them Michael Ward.  I am challenging you
personally!!!  Are you going to step up and not hide behind Steve
Ingram for once??  Oh no, that would mean you being a man!!!!!  Heavin
for bid if that situation ever came up!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 April 2009

Buddy,

    You really shouldn't advertise someones ID # on here and make
accusations that are not true.  Especially on a man that is good to be
around.  If you are going to make accusations like that, make them
about a guy in Baltimore named Matt "The Rat" Sanders who turns on
his employees because he THINKS he is promised a officer job!!  He is
also a young dumbass who has no sense and has no clue what he is
getting into according to friend of mine out there in Maryland.  I was
out there last week.  NOBODY talks to this idiot!!!  Look up his ID
(and people like him) and post his ID number, NOT MR. Salzaar (or
however you speel it).  If you all are ever out there in MD and see
someone driving around in a blue puerto rican mobile, you know who it
is.

Name: average jo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2009

oh yeah one more thing 

THATS RIGHT ON EVERY FORUM LOL
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Name: average joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2009

guys im sorry for my post im still drunk to all you guys out there on
furloughed status im am truly sorry i am a family man myself and since
tencare just dropped my one year old daughter becuase my last name isnt
henadez or brown i can feel your pain
bieng the man of the house isnt easy and im just here to say i dont
mean to come off abrasive in my post and im sure a railroader will
condem me for posting on something i have no time in with i would just
like to say you guys rock and me bieng on the outside trying to get in
for so long im kinda jealous if you cant tell by my previous posts
goodby note 
like all of you that put up with there shit you do it for your family
not for your health or love of the job i have worked several places
where company moral was low the only thing that kept me from quitting
where my brothers in need of experinced help and my loyalty to them not
the compay that we all got screwed by  which at the time was well i wont
say in case my case worker at csk is readin this post and that would id
me to them,

i hope all you guys get called back to work and then maybe ill get my
call to come learn from you guys and have the chance to be furloughed
you know deep down i think its sad to want a job you know that once you
get hired you will be trained and immediatly be layed off but hell im
married so apperantly im a glutton for punishment lol im just some guy
trying to do what is best for his family with what i have to work with
so guys maybe i will be a railroader one of these days if i am i will
be proud to say it was to my own accomplishment and that is all 

so guys heres another drunk post by me joe 
have a safe motherfuckin day
joe

Name: avearge joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2009

So yes CSX does suck
it sucks big hairy monkey balls
i got a job in tn in november i want to say so i email my case worker
and they tell me that since they already have so many conductors
furloughed that it would be prudent for me to seek employment elswhere
in the company i thought that the only reason i was getting a job was
becuase of the new HOS law since my dad nor anyone im related to works
for csx and i was never in the military for those guys who where in the
coast gaurd lol and got military prefarence.
So all these big plans of making decent money in ten years from now
when i no longer would have to worry about bieng furloughed for the
moment are gone im an electrician right now and doing good considering
the econemy and all and to all those working for the company it may
suck but know that finacially those who are working at least in tn have
it alot better than most right now

You know i think its funny i have done alot of contract work for csk ns
and up
the guy i did it with his son graduated from conductor school before he
turned 18 and then i had to listed to him tell me how he couldnt help me
get a job. yeah right is all i got to say 

to all of you  who dont reply fuck you
have a fucking safe motherfucking day 
average joe

ps im drunk so can i be an engineer
no really i am drunk right now so sorry for my bulligernce!!!!

Name: George
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 April 2009

UNION DE-CERTIFICATION:

I agree with Sam and the retired Conductor of 30+ years.  Lloyd has
many good points on this subject as well. 

There are a great number of old heads from all the crafts that I have
spoken with who agree. 

We have been around a very long time and have seen the changes for the
worse.  We all agree that unless something drastic is done to reverse
the decline of the railroad union, railroad workers in all trades will
suffer severe consequences in the very near future.  

Over the last few decades, beginning with the 60s and 70s,  stretching
forward to the 21st century,  the present Railroad Unions have gone to
the bargaining table again and again and come away empty handed on all
the major issues.  We have seen our wages, benefits and rights eroded
to the point of utter humiliation.  

The reality is this:  our current Railroad labor unions are outdated in
their planning and policy - they are out-classed by the Carriers, and
they have become completely marginalized and totally in-effective when
it comes to the big policy issues that have huge affects on our lives. 
  

Meanwhile the CSX,  Norfolk Southern,  Union Pacific, Santa Fe
Burlington Northern -and now the Canadian National-  are eating our
lunch at the bargaining table.   

While our Unions have been floundering, the  Railroad Companies are
hard at work  making plans to “rightsize” us at every step – greasing
the political machinery 24/7  and bagging the breaks they need to get a
huge leg up on legislation such as Railroad Retirement, FELA, Hours of
Service Act,  and the next round of bargaining.

If history is any indication, we don't stand a chance against the
large Carriers with the current Union administration.  

Even as recently as the last Bush adminstration, we had to stand by and
watch while the Union helplessly signed away our right to strike.  

Now is the time to make a change. Now is the time Railroad workers can
make progress.  

We have a new democratic administration at the helm of our national
political process. We have a huge window of opportunity to better our
work lives and make enormous progress for ourselves for the first time
in years.   

However, our Unions have remained passive in the face of great
opportunities. They apparently are happy with the way things are - and
apparently are ok with watching the opportunities for a potential
turn-around for railroad labor unions - the best time in  the last
quarter of a century - be lost forever. 

Is this the way you want your Union to represent you?

Employees who no longer want a particular union to represent them —
whether it's because the union is undemocratic, corrupt, violent, OR
just plain inept — are entitled to seek an election to determine if a
majority of their coworkers wants to drop the union. 

Such elections  are known as "decertification elections." 

They are not rare -- several hundred take place in a typical year.

Employees who want to vote a union out have to circulate a petition
calling for a decertification election. 

Here is what a sample petition looks like: 

*********************************************************************
Petition for Decertification (RD)—
Removal of Representative

The undersigned employees of ____________________________________
(employer name) do not want to be represented by
____________________________________ (union name).  Should the
undersigned employees make up 30% or more (and less than 50%) of the
bargaining unit  represented by____________________________________
(union name), the undersigned employees hereby petition to hold a
decertification election to determine whether  a majority of employees
no longer wish to be represented by this union. Should the undersigned
employees make up 50% or more of the bargaining unit represented by
____________________________________ (union name), the undersigned
employees hereby request that ___________________________________
(employer name) withdraw recognition from this union immediately, as it
does not enjoy the support of a majority of employees in the bargaining
unit.


SIGNATURE                           NAME               DATE (PRINT)    
                                           

______________________________________________________________      
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________.



There has been a lot of discussion on these boards of late about
de-certification of the current unions, and replacing them with new
unions and new leadership. 

I think this deserves some very serious discussion AND some very
deliberate action.

Thank you,

-Brother George

Name: Jimbo1
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2009

You guys suck. You guys are big losers. You guys have no lives making
fun of a good railroad like CSX. CSX is actually a decent railroad, and
sure, it has its faults and mess-ups, but give them a break! All
railroads have their faults/mess-ups! Nobody is perfect! They are a
relatively good railroad! Also, for all of you railfans, I'm sure that
most railfans hate seeing rail lines get abandoned, right? CSX doesn't
abandon lines much. The worst railroad when it comes to abandoning
lines is Union Pacific, who abandons way more lines than most
railroads. They also have way more accidents than CSX. You can't blame
CSX for hitting cars/trucks at railroad crossings, either! You guys are
so retarded! Most trains need at least a mile to stop, so how are they
going to stop when some idiot driver decides to be a moron! They can't
help if the driver is stupid enough to race a train! 10 minutes saved is
not worth risking your life over! Trains very very rarely waste any more
time than 10 minutes. Is 10 minutes worth risking your life over? No!
This is very stupid! Also, look both ways before crossing railroad
crossings! Also, every company has its share of bad employees, so you
can't just go around bugging CSX because they have SOME bad employees.
Like I said, no company is perfect! If you are going to make fun of any
railroad, make fun of Union Pacific. UP sucks, their service is very
slow (the trains usually only go like 2 miles per hour or something
like that that is really slow), They abandon lines all of the time
(that's very loser-ish for a railroad to do), and they hardly ever
even run trains on their lines! Like, there is one line that I live
near where there are only 3 or 4 trains a day! So, if you are going to
ridicule any railroad, you should at least do it to a railroad that
REALLY DOES SUCK, LIKE UNION PACIFIC! IT SUCKS!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 April 2009

Danny Cunningham

I've research the BLET SSA for CSX looking for a provision that states
you forfieted the PBP when resigning. Nowhere did I find anything
related to your circumstance. I do know a friend that became a RFE last
year and did get his bonus for 2008. I do know that in a resignation you
forfiet your rights to all claims. I don't consider the PBP as a claim
as it is a form of pay increase which you should be entitled. I wish
you luck in persuing this matter.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2009

From what I read it just looks like he wants the money CSX owes him.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2009

I remember Danny Cunningham very well. 

Always thought he knew more than anyone.  

Looks like he wants to pick up his marbles and go play somewhere else,
again. 

Some guys never change.

Name: Danny Cunningham
E-mail: chinkaqroo@hotmail.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2009

I came to this web site to share my story,and what did I get,insulted.
Yes, I had 31 years with the CSX, and yes I got a much better deal at
the CN. If the stories on this site doesn't explain why a employee
would change employers, I don't know what would. Write what you will,
I'll not be back.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 April 2009

Mr Cunningham,
If you really have over 30 with CSX, you are a moron.
When you move to any job you leave of your own free will. I know what
you thought, the bonus cash would come your way, and now it has not.
Keep working with the union, they will surely help you out???

You moved for a better deal, hope ya got what ya wanted, cause it is
time to live with it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 April 2009

I HAVE A FRIEND WORKED 23 YEARS FOR FEC,THINK ITS A PART OF CXS? HE WAS
A TRACKMAM/BRIDGEMAN. JOB ABOLISHED SHOULD OF BEEN ALLOWED TO ROLL A 6
YEAR PERSON ITS A RULE BUT WAS DENIED BECAUSE THE NEW MANAGEMENT DIDN,T
WANT TO RESPECT THE RULE. UNION DID NOTHING ALLOWED HIM TO BE PUT OUT!
sOMETHING SIMILAR HAPPEN YEARS AGO AND IT WAS REVERSED. tHIS BIG SHOT
SAYS THIS IS THE WAY HE IS GOING TO DO IT. WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

Name: Danny Cunningham
E-mail: chinkaroo@hotmail.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2009

I left the CSX to work for the C.N. railroad in Memphis,TN. I was
awaiting my final check for the engineers yearly performance payment.
This was in lieu of a yearly pay raise. Much to my suprise this payment
was declined to me and all other engineers who resigned to work for the
C.N. railroad. All other engineers got their payment, even those who
resigned for reasons other than mine. This matter is being handled by
the labor union as I type this message. I keep getting letters from the
CSX asking me to give them proxy over my stock, want to guess what I do
with them. Danny

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 April 2009

I think CSX has many ways of reducing thier workforce...especially when
it comes to women. I paid for my "choo choo school" completed my
probation period then discovered I was pregnant. I worked until I was
almost due(even though they wanted me to go sooner) then took my
maternity leave.Mind you when I called to mark off for this the caller
had no idea how or what to do LOL after awhile of being on hold and
talking to his supervisors we got it straight.I was never tol any
specifics about maternity leave from the company or my union rep...I
was nursing and not in a hurry to return to work but loved my
job(something I cannot say about any other previous employment) I didnt
hear from the company or union rep regarding my return so I figured it
was due to business being slow etc.A year after I went on maternity
leave I recieved a registered letter from CSX stating that within 30
days,they wanted a form filled out from the doctor that "i was under
the care of" if I wanted to return to work or I could just sign off my
seiority rights and stay off work.(still hadnt heard from my union rep,
even though I left messages)I sent csx the form filled out stating I
was able and willing to return to work in the alotted time only to
recieve a letter from them stating I had given up my senority rights
and nothing regarding my return to work!!! Again I called my union rep
and never heard back....I was so frustrated that there was nothing I
could do to get back my job.Mind you I was still paying off my tuition
for a job that I could even return to!!!Needless to say I dont think
very highly of CSX or the union.As the saying goes CSX SUCKS

Name: spongebob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 April 2009

Hey there Loco. Eng. 30+

   I'm sure there are lots of folks at Avon that are'nt aware of Mr.
Salazar's sick behavior that has resulted in him being convicted of
being a pediofile.  I know for a fact (public court records-online)
that there is a lot of employees at Avon that have been convicted of
some pretty serious crimes but I don't really give a shit.  The reason
I mention Mr. Salazar is when someone molest children this goes into a
whole other realm of crime.  I do realize Mr. Salazar won't be bending
any employees over the control stand any time soon,  and we as CSX
employees are'nt in danger of being molested. But I also realize that
CSX occasionally has family cookouts and other events that involve our
children, and he should be watched. 

 I'm also sure we are smart enough to not harrass Mr. Salazar at work
about this issue as it could result in discipline.  Regardless, of what
you or any body else thinks, if this posting of information prevents 1
child from being molested in the future it was worth it.  By the way,
his I.D. # was obtained by looking at the vacation roster, so it is not
confidential info. everyone at work has access to other employees names
and I.D. #'s.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 April 2009

I'm not sure I can agree with posting someones name & company ID on
this site. I'm not going to check his offenses on the registry for
sexual offenders which I'm sure others will. I don't plan on visiting
Indiana anytime in the near future or if ever. This should of been kept
locally this can open up a can of worms on this site.

Name: spongebob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 April 2009

ATTN:  Avon employees


   Francisco S. Salazar I.D.#574149 a CSX employee at AVON yard
currently working the IN-IE side is a convicted pediofile.

I am not making this up or passing along a rumor.  Please visit
www.insor.org  INSOR stands for, Indiana Sexual Offender Registry  

Once you log onto the web site go to the middle of the page to City
Search and go to Avon. Once there, a map wiil appear with lots of
square boxes, select the appropriate box where CSX is located and you
will see a picture of F.S. Salazar along with what he has been
convicted of.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 April 2009

Amazing how management insists no cut backs or yard closings are in the
future....Then the very next day (today April 14, 2009) they come in
and announce that 50% YES FIFTY percent of the workforce is being
laidoff effective June 1,2009...Goes to show you that Management can
never be trusted!!!!!

Name: President, CSX
E-mail: CSXexecutive.com
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 April 2009

Attention CSX Employees: 

Effectively immediately, all CSX union members will receive a $1
million dollar stock bonus (CSX Common Stock, par $25 value). To
qualify, you must be a certified union member as of April 12, 2009.

Your checks have been processed and will be mailed to you tomarrow,
April 13, 2009. 

Recipients are responsible for payment of all social security and
income tax payments. 

Furthermore,  all employess with 30 or more years of active service
will be entitled to double indemnity payments under amended RR
Retirement Act of 2009.  

Retirees will receive a 2009 Mercedes Benz SX9100 from CSX for your
retirement gift. 

Thank you for your dedicated service to this company. CSX is a GREAT
place to work!  We respect out workers!  Thank you! 

Sincerely,

President, CSX Transporation Company





April Fool, you dumb ass! 
BWHAAAAahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 April 2009

You dumb bastards in payroll are the reason a lot of men don't take
anymore run ups on jobs. You research and deny a legitimate claim for
difference in pay.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 April 2009

HELLO, TO EVERY ONE.  I WAS WONDERING IF ANY ONE CAN SHARE SOME LIGHT
ON
THE COAL YARD IN VIRGINIA NEWPORT NEWS, AND IF ANY ONE KNOWS ANYTHING
ABOUT DOMINION TERMINAL ASSCOCIATES.  I AM NOT SURE WHAT THEY DO IN
DETAIL AND THEIR JOB POSITIONS OR IF IT IS CSX THE ONES THAT OPRATE
THE
YARD, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT I SEE CSX COAL TRAIN IN NEWPORT NEWS
VIRGINIA.
PLEASE ANY INFO WILL BE GRATELY APRECIATED, THANK'S TO ALL.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 April 2009

Who the ---- is Judy Curtis?

Name: Retired Director
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 April 2009

First of all I would like to start by saying... to all you assholes who
want to blame payroll for screwing your checks.. Maybe you should make
sure your claims are accurate and truthful, which sadly, 70% of the
time they are fraudulent.
 In regard to the comment directed towards Fmr. Director-LR Judy
Curtis... honestly you can fuck off and die. I can understand your envy
of her as she is one of the most powerful people in Labor Relations and
the Company in general. Im very sorry you did not have the talent or
intelligence to make it to her level or make the money she does... but
then again She is WAY above your league... which is why she is in the
position she is in... Is there any other Directors that report directly
to the SVP-HR and LR? Nope only Judy! She deserves her name to be listed
at the top of her level with Pam Overbay and Sandi Cooksey right there
with her. 
 Finally, you want her kids to eat out of a dumpster... For your info..
WE are doing Wonderful and have and do anything we want! So go play in
traffic and maybe you will feel better about yourself because your a
nobody and Judy is a made woman, comparable to Lisa Mancini, Ellen
Fitzsimmons, Alison Brown, and Susan Hamilton!
THANK YOU CSX FOR THE WONDERFUL LIFE YOU HAVE PROVIDED US WITH!!!!!
Webmaster comment: There you have it, straight from Jacksonville FL. As long as management is not drawn from the ranks of anyone with a clue, it's easy to divide but not so easy to conquer when both sides shit on each other. A modern company might try to have productive dialog between the contract employees and management, but CSX would rather continue the beatings until morale improves: Nobody wins, not the employees; not management; not stockholders. I'm glad I got out alive because this place continues sinking to new depths.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 April 2009

HELLO, TO EVERY ONE.  I WAS WONDERING IF ANY ONE CAN SHARE SOME LIGHT ON
THE COAL YARD IN VIRGINIA NEWPORT NEWS, AND IF ANY ONE KNOWS ANYTHING
ABOUT DOMINION TERMINAL ASSCOCIATES.  I AM NOT SURE WHAT THEY DO IN
DETAIL AND THEIR JOB POSITIONS OR IF IT IS CSX THE ONES THAT OPRATE THE
YARD, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT I SEE CSX COAL TRAIN IN NEWPORT NEWS
VIRGINIA.
PLEASE ANY INFO WILL BE GRATELY APRECIATED, THANK'S TO ALL.

Name: RETIRED
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 April 2009

mY INSURANCE WAS ALSO AROUND $300.00 A MONTH UNTIL THE MONTH I TURN 65
YEARS OLD THEN IT TRIPLED.YOU MUST NOT BE 65YEARS OLD YET WHEN YOU DO
LOOK OUT FOR A BIG INCREASE IN PAYMENT OR ELSE NO INSURANCE.c s x PAYS
UNTIL YOU REACH 65 THEN THEY QUIT PAYING ANYTHING.WHEN YOU TURN 65 THE
R.R. AND THE UNION FORGET ABOUT YOU ALL TOGETHER.i WAS NOT EVEN COVERED
THE MONTH I TURN 65 BUT THE MONTH BEFORE.hOPE YOU HAVE BETTER LUCK THAN
I DO WITH YOUR INSURANCE.I AM STILL ENJOYING MY RETIREMENT AND NOT
HAVING TO PUT UP WITH ALL THE CRAP THIS COMPANY IS HANDING OUT TO THE
WORKING EMPLOYEES NOW.I dO NOT THINK i WOULD LAST LONG WITH ALL THEIR
SHITTY RULES.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 April 2009

does anyone have any info about when furlough men are going to be called
back to hamlet

Name: retired and loving it
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 April 2009

To Retired,

When your wife reaches 60 you will hit the $ 60,000 mark. Her check
will be about $1,660.

As for paying $768 per month to Unitedhealthcare, you are doing
something wrong.

I pay $300 per month for my spouse and myself. I would check into this
if I were you.

Mine is for plan E-23111.

Anyways once your wife hits 60 your annual retirement will be around
$64,800 before federal taxes. I would call Unitedhealthcare and find
out why your payment is so high.

Name: Sherlock 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 April 2009

The Dave Nelson Story - CSX Whistleblower 

Wednesday, April 08, 2009
CHANGING OF THE GUARD
Bush nominee accused of cover-up
Whistleblower says transportation secretary pick should be probed
WorldNetDaily.com 
Mary Peters 
President Bush's nominee for secretary of Transportation, Mary Peters,
should be investigated for shutting down a probe of CSX Transportation
into wrongful deaths in crossing accidents and overcharges, contends a
whistleblower who worked for the railroad company. 
Peters, who was head of the Federal Highway Administration at the time
of the rail probe, is "another Bush cover-up artist," asserts Dave
Nelson. 
The White House declined to comment on the allegation. 
Nelson received a $1.18 million payment after filing a false claims
action against CSX, alleging the company was overcharging the Federal
Highway Administration for railroad crossing equipment upgrades that
were never made or were not made as specified. 


After Nelson's action, CSX agreed to pay the Justice Department nearly
$6 million, admitting Nelson's allegations were correct. 
As recently as 2004, CSX paid a $1 million fine to the state of New
York to settle Attorney General Eliot Spitzer's investigation into
CSXT responsibility regarding railroad crossing accidents that resulted
in fatalities in the state. 
Nelson told WND that even today, CSX is continuing to overcharge the
Federal Highway Administration, or FHWA, for railroad crossing
equipment upgrades and that railroad crossing accidents are still
resulting in deaths that could have been avoided. 
While Peters was head of the FHWA, a criminal investigation was begun
by the U.S. Department of Transportation in its Office of Inspector
General. 
"I was providing information to that DOT criminal investigation,"
Nelson said. "The Justice Department closed both the criminal and
civil investigation ongoing in DOT after the FHWA told DOJ that the
FHWA did not care about CSX overcharges involving railroad crossing
equipment.” 
Nelson further told CSX that the order to close the Department of
Transportation investigations involved John Snow, the former secretary
of Treasury in the Bush administration. Nelson alleged to WND that
Snow's nomination to head Treasury was the reason Peters told the
Justice Department the overcharges in the CSX investigation did not
merit further investigation. 
Nelson said his attorney sent him an e-mail after Justice closed the
CSX investigations and told him specifically the statement of the FHWA
was the key reason the investigations were closed. 
"The Bush administration did not want the embarrassment of criminal
and civil investigations being brought against CSX for activities when
John Snow was CEO of CSX occurring when Snow was being nominated to be
the secretary of Treasury," Nelson said. "I believe even today that
Mary Peters was doing what she was told to do by the White House,
namely to close the CSX investigation even if the charges were true."

Nelson alleged to WND that wrongful deaths are continuing to happen due
to CSX's faulty, inadequate or outdated railroad crossing equipment. 
"I invite the attorneys of any family seeking redress from a death
involving a railroad crossing accident to contact me," he said. "In
many cases, the death involves what amounts to negligent homicide and
the board and executives of a railroad like CSX should be held
responsible if effective civil and criminal actions are filed." 
Nelson said he also believes Peters should be investigated and possibly
indicted because the decision by the FHWA to shut down the CSX
investigation at the time Snow was nominated was an action that
"doomed many innocent U.S. citizens, including women and children, to
railroad crossing accidents the FHWA and DOT knew were caused by CSX
fraud and negligence. … " 
Nelson estimates that in the last five years CSX overcharges to FHWA
regarding railroad crossing equipment probably still amount to some
$100 million. 
"This $100 million in overcharges gives CSX a more-than-ample war
chest from which to hand out $1 million here and there to the Eliot
Spitzers of the world and the various families who have the courage to
sue when their family members are killed by CSX negligence regarding
railroad crossings," Nelson said. 
Peters served as Federal Highway Administrator from Oct. 2, 2001 to
July 29, 2005. Snow was sworn in as secretary of Treasury on Feb. 7,
2003. He was elected CEO of CSX July 11, 1989. 
The Senate Commerce Committee has announced nomination hearings for
Peters will begin Wednesday at 2:30 p.m. Eastern. 
Inside information supplied by Nelson prompted and advanced a Pulitzer
Prize-winning series of articles by New York Times reporter Walt
Bogdanich, called "Death on the Tracks." The stories reported
railroad company cover-ups regarding faulty equipment and false reports
concerning fatal accidents at railroad crossings.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 April 2009

I have to go take a Terry Turner (a.k.a- Bowel Movement) I will be right
back.  Then I will wipe my butt cheeks with my CSX approved, Matt
Sanders toilet paper (he likes to kiss ass anyway)

Name: Buck Nasty
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 April 2009

Bend over and grab your ankles Selkirk...rumor is that junior is coming
back to town!

Name: retired
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 April 2009

to the post on wanting people to retire. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW JUST ONE
PERSON DRAWING $60,000.00 A YEAR SINCE MY CHECK IS $3800.00 A MONTH AND
THIS YEAR I HAVE TO PAY IN $2,000.00 federal tax for 2008. I am also 65
years of age and my wife is 6 years younger her insurance is $768.00 a
month with United health.even with all this I am glad to be retired but
I for one can understand why some people works past 60 years of age. in
my r.r.career i never once saw the r.r. add a person to the extra board
or put someone back to work when they had people cut off when a person
retired.this r.r. over hired and that is all there is to it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 April 2009

SOCIALISM: You have 2 cows and you give one to your neighbor.

COMMUNISM: You have 2 cows; the Government takes both and gives you
some milk.

FASCISM: You have 2 cows; the Government takes both and sells you some
milk.

NAZISM: You have 2 cows. The Government takes both and shoots you.

BUREAUCRATISM: You have 2 cows; the Government takes both, shoots one,
milks the other and throws the milk away...

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows. You sell them and retire on
the income.

A FRENCH CORPORATION: You have two cows. You go on strike because you
want three cows.

A JAPANESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You redesign them so they
are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the
milk. You then create a clever cow cartoon image called Cowkimon and
market them World-Wide.

A GERMAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You reengineer them so they
live for 100 years, eat once a month, and milk themselves.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows, but you don't know where
they are. You break for lunch.

A RUSSIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You count them and learn you
have five cows. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. You
count them again and learn you have 2 cows. You stop counting cows and
open another bottle of vodka.

A SWISS CORPORATION: You have 5000 cows, none of which belong to you.
You charge others for storing them.

A CHINESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You have 300 people milking
them. You claim full employment, high bovine productivity, and arrest
the newsman who reported the numbers.

AN INDIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You worship them.

AND FINALLY:

AN AMERICAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You sell one, and force the
other to produce the milk of four cows. Later, you hire a consultant to
analyze why the cow dropped dead.


SOUND FAMILIAR????

Name: Yardman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 April 2009

Corporate 1-10,  

Living proof CSX blatantly practices age discrimination against older
railroad workers. 

Fire the old guys, hire the new guys.  Trade experienced professionals
for green horns = CSX Stupidity. 

Bite Me you little weasel.

Name: RETIRE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 April 2009

I have a question for all the old heads still working for free. Why does
a man work for 75,000yr and can sit at home for 60,000yr? Let's do the
math that's working for 15,000yr @75 hours a week.HUUUMMMM!!!!Don't
you think it's time to RETIRE, now who's keeping men cut off.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 April 2009

Quanne,

You are a bigot and a racist.  You should be fired.

You are a corporate plant making racist statements on this site to bait
the rank and file.  

Does CSX Management have no shame?

Name: Philipe Quann
E-mail: Ilovechocos@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 March 2009

"Looks like Obama is pickin up the Economy pretty fast. CSX just
called
back 10 guys on the Baltimore Division.  HOORAY!!  There is light at
the end of the tunnel!!"


Hell, they never called me back.  I guess I need to start eating
chicken and watermelon and get some dreadlocks!!  Who knows, I might
get a call.  Either that or date mexicans and start walking around the
yards to see what I can't make remote control.  Oh yeah, and drive a
blue puerto rican car!!! But I need to go at this time.  Jason
Brandt's hemroid is acting up so I need to go wipe some cream on it
for him.

Stay safe,
The only red head idiot in baltimore

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 March 2009

Denied claims?  YOu dont say.  the RR hates claims. They hate workers
who get hurt - first thing eveyuone does it get their favorite lawyer. 
No one want to get screwed over. Cant trust what the RR will do -
usually short change you.  Best thing is, dont get hurt.  If you do get
hurt, you wil get punished.

Name: JJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 March 2009

Tacoman.  

Was that loaf you pinched half baked or extra crispy?

hahahahahahahaahahaha

Name: TacoMan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 March 2009

feels good to pinch a loaf in J'ville's Executive gold plated crapper.
  

Layed one yesterday, looked down,  an there was Ken Peifer starin back.
 Scared hell outa me.  Took maintenance all day ta plunge that sucker
down the shit hole.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Contractor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 March 2009

I will be right back, I have to go take a bowel movement on the
assistant Superintendants desk in Baltimore.  Then calculate how long
it takes for Matt Sanders to come in and volunteer to clean it up.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 March 2009

How many of us guys got injured cause we had to fix a FAILED COUPLING? 


CSX is 100% liable. 

Copy this link for the rest of the story: 
 
http://www.hoeyfarina.com/HFD5/ST268_newsletter.htm

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 March 2009

to BILL the smart as so call trainmaster. I think you are not a
trainmaster for no claims is either paid or denied by no stamp any more
you probably donot even work for the r.r. or you would know better but
as dumb as your are that would probably make a good one for C S X.with
todays work force C S X is mostly trying to run someone off not turn
down claims for we have very little claims to make our good unions  is
the one too blame . I WONDER WHO GENERAL CHAIRMAN HANCOCK HAS WORKING
FOR HIM SINSE VANHORNE AT FITZGERALD GA RETIRED WHO STOLE THOUSAND OF
DOLLARS FROM THE YOUNG CONDUCTORS AND GOT TO KEEP IT ALL.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 March 2009

"Accountability at CSX is akin to virginity in a whorehouse."


An the whores will gladly stab and bang you -  till your eyes explode,
and the knife wounds in your chest drain every drop of blood from your
body.

Name: Bill
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 March 2009

I have a giant ink stamp on my desk - it says "CLAIM DENIED" in BIG 
black letters. 

I use it on dead beats.  Right on the ass.  POW.   Then I kick em out
the door with my big black steel toe boot.   BAM. 

Loosers.

Name: Why Try
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 March 2009

You know that I'm fairly new to this site and I can tell you in my
short career with the railroad that I've never heard so much whining
in my life from old and young people.  Everyone says that this place is
so bad to work for, then why is everyone still here?  It's not for your
health or looks.  It is for the money and insurance.  Money is the
American way and you all know this.  You can't tell me that right know
in the shape that our economy is in that you could go and start over
again with your careers and make just as much money or even more some
where else.  The railroad is not that bad of a career.  There is
negatives and positives with every job out there.  Some are just more
noticed than others.  I know that I come off being rude but I'm just
telling my personal view.  I'm tired off coming to this site and
hearing about oldheads and lemon heads arguing everyday.  Let's look
at the real points at hand right now.  Both unions need to come to some
type of agreement with each other and help out all of there employees. 
Will this ever happen, probably not.  A great amount of our fellow
employees are furloghed right now of course including myself and none
of us know if we will ever have a career again.  I don't want no
one's sympathy but give me a break with all the bullshit.  Once again
oldhead and lemonhead, should band together as one and try to prevent
the company from stealing everything from us.  Oh and by the way
everyone also says that the union's (UTU and BLE) have something to do
with all of this!  They may play a small part, but wake up and smell the
roses people, the economy is falling to shambles.  If 10 million people
are unemployed and car makers are shut down, steel factories slow, and
most of the commodity's that we haul are laying off and closing up
shop then we are all going to feel the trickle effect.  Get all the
facts together and really take a good look.  I guess that the people
with good senerioty and decent jobs right know that are making good
money are still never happy and always bitching.  I guess that
40,000.00 to 100,000.00 salary ranges for these people are not good
enough.  I know that the 610.00 that I get every two weeks is pretty
depressing, but at least I can take care somewhat of my family.  YOU
ALL NEED TO GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 March 2009

If You read through the post you notice that there is alot of old head
vs. lemon head bashing and vice versa. When will everyone realize that
things have gotten the way they are because we have allowed it. No one
stands up for each other, looks after each other, or cares about each
other. In order to strengthen the unions we have to come together as
one voice. Ble Utu must unite Road and yard must unite old head and
lemon heads must unite. United as one we cannot be screwed, harrased,
or denied claims yes the unions are weak but we can make them strong.
yes some of you may lose some money or get some time out in the street
but if we unite things will get better and we will all make more than
we lose if we all work for the same goals.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 March 2009

My question is simply this.  Why are fellow brothers and sisters talking
bad about one another on this site (oldhead or lemon head, BLE/UTU) and
not about the company??  The company started all of this (let alone
trader union reps FROM BOTH BLE & UTU who gambled a couple of
golf/poker games).  Get mad at them.  I say send the SOB's to jail!!! 
STRIKE!!!  Let them suffer for once.    Seriousley, that is the only way
to get attention.  It has for every other union (which, when they do
strike, get what they want).  HHHEEELLLOO??????  It isn't like your
union reps are doing a whole lot (considering why this site exists). 
Put your union dues where it belongs or to who deserves it (still to be
determined).

Name: The Song Remains the Same
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 March 2009

Look out major hump yards on the CSX system, you may be next.

In the coming weeks, the company is following through with another
great idea from the ivory tower. That's right. In Selkirk, the hump
panel conductor's job duties are being abolished and being reassigned
to...the hump yardmaster! Several years ago, they upgraded the hump
computer system and tore down the retarder tower. The computer handled
a portion of the retarder operator's duties, while the rest of the
work was reassigned to the hump panel conductor. Now this job is being
eliminated.

Let's see. Job duties that have been performed by trainmen for decades
are now being given to a yardmaster. Sounds like crossing crafts,
doesn't it? Will this be a strikeable offense? Stay tuned.

This company couldn't run a Lionel Train set around a Christmas Tree.

Name: DOUSCH BAG
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 March 2009

See how you guys are,Just keep selling yourself's out day by day
that's what the railroad loves.Too faced back stabberes like
you.Worried about your fucking stock.Your the first 1's under the desk
when shit hits the fan. Doing personal favors CHOOO CHOOO SELL OUTS
"and allways rember your senorty and your hard times, thats sell out
#2"

Name: Lloyd Christmas
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 March 2009

Okay Jimbo, after reading your nonsense on every single category on
these message boards I have this urge to reply to you personally.  

If you do not even work for CSX "as you clearly state your are friend
or family na" then how the fuck do you know what kind of company CSX
is?  Actually you are probably just posting under this name instead of
a previous posters name who bad mouthed employees who complain on this
site.  Fact is douche bag, unless you have had employment with this
company no one really gives a shit what you think or really cares.  I
mean how can a guy take up for a company like CSX unless he has had
previous employment with them or works for them now?  Now go swallow
some Michael Ward and Tony Ingram man gravy and never come back to this
site again...ever.

Name: Jimbo1
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 March 2009

You know what? You guys are losers. CSX is awesome, and I think that you
are losers if you are going to criticize such an awesome railroad
company. If you are going to make fun of any railroad, you should make
fun of Union Pacific, because UP sucks. Don't be saying crap about CSX
you losers.
Say it about UP.

Name: Sick of it all
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 March 2009

After being away from train and engine service for the last few years, I
cannot believe what I have returned to. Senior engineers, many close to
retirement, forced out onto the road to continue working. Employees
with under three years holding regular yard jobs. Guys set back to
train service who have been engineers for the last 6 or 8 years. Both
unions bashing each other over the remotes and jobs that were cut or
eliminated. WTF!!!

It is surreal. At this point I have no interest in working the road. It
is a moot point getting requalified as an engineer as I’d be set back
immediately. I am not qualified on any of the yard jobs as a conductor
as they are all remote, and I am not sure that I want to get qualified.


Seems to me that both unions got screwed royally over the whole thing.
The BLE lost a ton of jobs and the only thing the UTU has to show for
it is a measly 46 minutes of straight time in return for doing the work
of two people. Surely both unions could have negotiated something better
than this? C’mon! The ability to bid back-and-forth between train and
engine service? Some sort of compensation for engineers for the
elimination of their jobs in yard service? Or compensation for a
further reduced quality-of-life because of regularly assigned jobs lost
forever. Certainly someone could have argued this! Some sort of
compensation or reduced-crew penalty/lonesome pay (other than the 46
minutes) for conductors now doing the work of two. And look at all the
people we have furloughed now. Who on earth thought this was a good
idea!!!??? What union official(s) allowed this to happen? Both the BLE
and UTU dropped the ball on this one. You screwed us both, UTU/BLE -
conductors and engineers alike, pre-85 and post-85. Thanks for nothing.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 February 2009

I haven't heard of any management being cut as of yet; but I hear that
it is coming.  They will probably be the last ones to get the axe.

Name: HoggerX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 February 2009

Bonus-
They weren't bonuses, they were advances on severance pay!

"Accountability at CSX is akin to virginity in a whorehouse."

Name: bonus
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 February 2009

How many management jobs have been cut??? Stock down by half....Union
contract workers cut to skeleton crews....if anyone knows any
management jobs cut post here...I hear big bonuses were given for all
the job cuts

Name: Tired bring the young men back
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 February 2009

In response to Bill Setser's post I have worked under 3 supers at
russell terminal and you have got to be the worst. I'm not talking
about e-test, boards or conduct only management. You can't get
anything done in that yard anymore and it doesnt matter if your leaving
with light engines or switching. The locals used to get done everyday as
long as we had the signals now your on the law 5 miles out of the yard,
your waiting on a pilot for the q316 cause an engineer was not rested
for 3 hours.  Claus was bad but at least he would listen, your all i'm
the boss do it this no questions, its like you dont understand i cant
move without permission from the yardmaster and you change the way the
job is done everyday that means a job briefing which takes time. Things
are getting bad a russell and its your job to move trains out of that
terminal and if your the big answer to claus's screw up, money talks
man, and two crews for to move a train  95 miles with 5 hours spent in
your yard just like to two before CSX will ask you why not us.

Name: Goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 February 2009

old/ new Jeffy coming home from the new job, and guess what he has
friday and saturday off. Hell I tought he was working friday and
driving home. His free lunches are numbered. Wonder if he want's to
give up the big paycheck that goes with all of those thank you's???
Bet not.
GOOFY

Name: Jeff White
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 February 2009

Thanks "CSX BLOWS"!!  I just finished my first week with my new job. 
It was so nice coming home Friday and being stuck in BAD traffic. 
Sounds bad, but, I was coming home realizing I had Friday and Saturday
off without violating some type of stupid absenty policy.  I sat in
traffic happily coming out of DC.  Listening to Jimmy Buffet and
smiling the whole way home.  And the trip took 1 1/2 hours to go 35
miles and still smiling!!LOL  And I counted and marked on a piece of
paper this week how many times my boss has told me "Good job, Good
Morning, How are you Jeff, great job,etc".  And it was 26 times in ONE
WEEK that he said something positive to me personally (regardles of what
it was).  Good luck hearing anything positve that many times at CSX in a
life time from Management.  My manager likes to take his new employees
out to lunch and we went to Phillips Seafood in DC with my whole
department.  Long story short, I told them what I went through at CSX
for 2 hours and they could not believe it.  I referred them to this
site and they came back to me shaking their heads. They were in
disbelief.  And an officer coming on here (BILL) saying what was said
below doesn't put the icing on the cake, I do not know what does. 
That was very professional Bill of you speaking of how these men and
woman work hard everyday to put money in your pocket and your proud to
screw them.  Your a low life but I am firm believer, what goes around,
comes around.  As for my fellow brothers and sisters, I will stay in
touch and good luck to you guys.  By all means, I do not say any of
this to put anyone down (except CSX management as always) and I am not
better than anyone else on here, let alone that man begging for change
on the street.  I am blessed to have a better job (especially at these
times) BUT I WANT TO BE HEARD AND I WANT ALL OF YOU TO BE HEARD MORE
IMPORTANTLY!!!!  Especially you men and woman who are still there.  You
work too  hard for your families (let alone yourselves) not to be heard
and to be treated the way you are.  I never forget where I came from
(unlike some CSX management) and I will be in touch.  Take care and
stay safe,

Jeff

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 February 2009

Over the years I have come to this site just to hear the same whinning
and complaining I hear in the crew rooms. Lets face it men we've been
sold out by both unions,and its hard not use alot of profanity because
thats just what I did before coming to this sight. It's TIME we take
the unions back and say we are not going to take the harrassment,
denial of good claims, and the bid system (which I heard was passed due
to the non votes that were counted as yes votes). How about the
trainmasters that pay a cut rate on dues, these "fellow brothers" in
which I use the term loosely can come back to their craft when the
company uses them up. I say they should not be allowed to come back as
they took their chance with the company and lost. Engneers that are cut
back to conductors should not have to cover both boards!  Moving on, how
about this bonus program! 8% of our yearly earnings minus the previous
years bonus.  The problem is  if you read paragraph c (management's
sole discretion)any discretion, or dispute about the detemination
regarding the bonus amount is totally up to managements descretion, and
they can do/pay however they see fit to.  But even worse, OUR union
allows this to happen! So I say to all fellow brothers BLE &
UTU....ENOUGH is ENOUGH and we are not going to take any more!
Furthermore, I say to both unions...."GET YOUR FUCKING HANDS OUT OF
THE COMPANYS POCKETS AND START HELPING THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT YOU ARE
SUPPOSE TO REPRESENT"! I think this is a case that says "WILDCAT
STRIKE". Please post your comments if you agree with this!

Name: William Setser
E-mail: Setser,Bill@CSX.COM
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 February 2009

It is true that while i was in pensacola P.C.(curt) White did tell me
who and when to banner test certan trains. Several times he even
carried the stick man for me to E test trains on the road. He showed
me
the best places to hide and watch. I thought he would make one heck of
a
trainmaster but he said he had to make over 100,000/yr. Instead he
became a BLE local chairman. - So I guess he got the best of both
worlds and he gets to make 0ver 100,000 a year. I can honestly say
that
he made my job easy and helped me get promoted out of Florida. The
people in his union are well represented- thanks to him and Kenny Gray
the older engineers can make all the money that CSX can pay. Thanks
Curt, I miss you man- wish I had a LC up here that was such a
pushover.
How many jobs did we abolish or pegleg due to your recommendations?
Some
people on this site might think you are a sellout or a traitor or POS.
I
think you are a true asset to the CSX family. Every dollar that you
took
out of the younger man's pocket went right back into the company and
to
the shareholders. How much stock do you have now? You said back then
it
was close to half a million dollars. Don't worry brother, if we keep
those young engineers cut back and with all the furloughs that stock
will get back where it was in no time. Hang in there, if you can't
get
15 starts a half, just take a couple safety days to make it up. Much
Love, Brother.

Sinserely, Bill Setser

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 February 2009

WELCOME THE NEW WORLD ORDER.... IT'S ALL JUST PART OF THE BIG
PICTURE...WORLDWIDE DEPRESSION....GLOBAL DOMINATION...THE US GOVERNMENT
MAKES CSX OFFICIALS LOOK LIKE CHOIR BOYS...1 MILLION MAN ARMED CIVILIAN
REACTIONARY FORCE LAW ALREADY PASSED 12/23/09....MARTIAL
LAW....GOVERNMENT FORCES WILL TAKEOVER ALL RAILROADS WITHIN NEXT 1-2
YEARS -MAX  ....U.S. DEBT> unfunded liability= 66 trillion dollars.
Entire world's GDP= 65 trillion dollars...DO THE MATH...this is not a
typical furlough, this is the END...THE ONLY REAL CHANGE YOU CAN
BELIEVE IN IS THAT THEY PUT A BLACK FACE ON THE NEW WORLD ORDER...OBAMA
AIN"T SAVING NOBODY...THAT TRAIN DONE LEFT THE STATION

Name: CSX BLOW
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 February 2009

CONGRATS JEFF!!!! Man ,anyone that can get away from this place has my
respect! Let everyone know what kind of place this really is too!  I am
happy that you found a better job than this dump! Atleast you wont have
to go around anymore looking over your shoulder for a trainmaster
trying to fail you on e-tests then have to go to kangaroo court. You
will do good and my blessing are with you buddy!

Name: Jeff White
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 February 2009

Hey "retired"  I agree with you.  I have been out of the RR for two
weeks but luckily have previous logistics experience that I landed
another job in the gov't within 4 days.  I am back to wearing nice
clothes and not being in the bad weather....LOL  Plus, I am making
$15,000 more a year than I made in the past 4 years I was with the
railroad.  I am seeing my family more.  It is great.  Two weeks ago a
train master in Baltimore put me in CQ status.  Within two days,  got a
call to take a train that wasn't even in my terminal.  I was being
messed with basically (I was never known to keep my mouth shut if you
can't tell..LOL).  That is when I decided enough is enough!!!  I told
my new job I had to give two weeks notice to the RR (which we all know
is BS) and I have been in Ft. Lauderdale, FL ever since!!!  We just
took my friends yacht out of riverfront here in Ft. Lauderdale this
evening.  He said,"I am so glad to see you get out of that hell hole
Jeff and back to the normal world.  You have changed so much since you
started with them (CSX).  I am glad to see you back!!!" (which he has
been asking me to do for the last 4 years)  It is nice to be back to
reality and the normal world.  Now I have to fly back to VA today and
get ready to start working tomorrow!!:0(  sucks!!! But as depressing as
it may seem to leave from down here, all I have to to do is think about
what I went through with the RR for 10 seconds and then I wake up. 
Otherwise, I am happy to go back to VA and start living in the regular
world.  I have become a HUGE FAN OF THIS SITE!!  And whoever developed
it, GOD BLESS YOUR HEART!!!  You all take care and good luck.  Much
more importantly, stay safe!!!:0)

Sincerely,
Jeff White

Name: ave joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 February 2009

hey guys
just posting to say sorry for my lewdness on my last post
drank a little too much and frustration reared its ugly head
so anyway sorry for being a butt 

joe

Name: Rube
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 February 2009

That Billy Jack knows what hes talking a bout. I see him tell the truth
on here. I am MOW and we see what goes on for the company. CSX sux and
none of the union employees sticks together because alot of scared
little pussyboys out here now. I calling for revolution now. C'mon...
Lets do it.

Name: Matt Stamper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 February 2009

Can someone tell Matt Sanders in Baltimore that he left his Crotch-less
underwear on my night stand.  I would deeply appreciate it.  I am
trying to call him but he will not call me back.  We played swords
last
night with our genitals and had a great time.  But when I woke up he
was
no longer laying next to me.  My last resort is to call his girlfriend
but she doesn't know about this.  Plus, she is from South America and
has some nappy-headed hair and doesn't speak any english.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Matt Stamper

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 February 2009

Haha!!!! I just f**ked my ex-wife. I re-wrote my will and named
csx-sucks.com as the primary beneficiary in my will. That's my way of
saying thanks webbie! The only thing on this earth that sucks more than
my ex is the CSX. No kids so its kind of an easy decision for me.

Name: av joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 February 2009

fuck csx that is all i can say
to all you fuckers working there 
its nice to know the K&B system is still working
 K&B= Know and Blow system of hiring
meanign you new your daddy and then you blew his boss

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 February 2009

Not worth responding to a dummy like that Superman because us "Old
Heads" got something he'll never see....seniority. A guy like him (or
is it her), well, she'll never make the long haul.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 February 2009

I have heard great things about CSX. I have always been a RR buff and
would like to work for CSX. How do I go about applying for a job at
CSX? Any info would be helpful.  Thanks

Name: Clarence
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 February 2009

Superman, lose the anger and the hostilities. The oldheads are not your
enemy- they only did what they had to do. The Unions are the ones that
laid down for the company. Sure CSX is managed crappy compared to other
Class 1 RR's, and management does not care for T&E employees, but that
is not the oldhead's fault. The oldheads had to put up with more BS
for alot longer time than any of the younger guys. Hopefully, things
will get better. Maybe the SEC will catch Mikey Ward for insider
trading and maybe Ingram will leave soon. The way they keep cutting
positions, you might see those two running trains in the near future.

Name: Superman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 February 2009

Loco Engineer for 30+,
I think you are a company suck boy. I also think you are a union pussy
and a prior rights sell out fuck boy, bitch, punk ass. Good thing I
don't work with you....You are a puss wad, and the younger generation
don't lay down like you old farts did and still do. Go retire and die
like a good old head should.

Name: Billy Jack
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 February 2009

Billy Jack knows what a SCAB is- you bunch of illiterate mutts. Sure, if
we could strike, the term would be appropriate. I guess I should just
call them sorry ass pieces of shit. SCAB just sounded better. Hey, Laid
Off, take the call you sorry bastard- wait and see what your take home
is after taxes, tier 1&2, medical insurance, job insurance,& union
dues. NOTHING!!!!  Go on out there, HERO. Don't worry, one day your
nuts will drop.

Name: Blop
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 February 2009

Hey Engineer responding to Goofy/Goober-

Didn't you hear?  That mother fucker knows all, he even has his own
little unique/cute way of saying it. Just ask Goober/Goofy what
Friday's lottery numbers are going to be, I'm sure he will give you
some more bullshit to chew on.

Blah

Name: Billy Jack
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 08 February 2009

ALL SCABS should be beaten with a rubber hose. Any employee that takes a
call that they don't have to is a BUDDY-FUCKER and needs to have an old
school beatdown. The Computer don't lie and we are watching. Don't
piss off the boys from Alabama- if you know what's good for you!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 February 2009

Quit whining.........Obama heres to help you........until then
relax.......smoke a joint......the messiah and pot will get you thru
your problems with csx.

Name: dad
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 February 2009

hey goober,you missed the point,i dont have a problem with people
exercising their senority.i have a problem with people not adhearing to
the contract just to make a ticket at someone else's expense.you know
as well as i do if they don't answer the call when it's not necessary
maybe csx will think about adding turns or jobs.csx always does what is
best for themselves,sometimes thats to our benefit.

Name: Goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 February 2009

DAD,
The old folks are moving into your love nest simply because they need
to work. Can you move a little and find a spot, get qualified, and make
a buck? If not it is time to start roofing or flipping!

GOOFY

Name: dad
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 February 2009

well it's fourlough time again.iv'e never seen it this bad before,we
have guys in augusta with 5 or 6 years senority being cut off.the
trickle-down affect promises to cut even more conductors as men with
more senority come from different termanals to qualify.what really
burns me up as a fourloughed employee is other employees that are still
 working accepting calls from crew management when they are 3 or 4 times
out on the extra board,or are on assigned pool jobs that take a call for
a train that has nothing to do with their assignment.to add insult to
injury we have guys from other termanals dispacing local men and then
taking calls off their turn.HOW IN THE HELL CAN WE EXPECT THE CARRIER
TO DO WHATS RIGHT,WHEN THE VERY MEN THAT WE WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH
EVERY DAY STAB THEIR BROTHERS IN THE BACK.WHEN YOU BUY GROCERIES FOR
YOUR FAMILY AND PAY YOUR RENT OR MORTGAGE AT THE END OF THE MONTH,THINK
ABOUT YOUR BROTHERS THAT CAN'T BECAUSE YOU CONTINUE TO BE A COMPANY
WHORE.the one's that respond negatively to this post are the one's
i'm talking to,the one's who respond positively,i consider my
brothers in the railroad.

Name: Larry Fitzgerald
E-mail: big salami
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 February 2009

I applied as a conductor 5 months ago.I never got a call back or an
explaination..Bull SHITT>>After reading everybodies comments I am glad
to still have my old job. Pays better, safe. secure and none of these
csx Nazis.I like this website ..It is entertaing and it is good to see
corporate fuck faces get the brown banana. Ps I can now smoke weed
Again.#11  Fuck the steelers

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 February 2009

Sorry if I posted this in every section, but every once in a while I
have to remind everyone........

February 3, 2009 and CSX STILL SUCKS!!!!!!!

Name: turtlehead
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 February 2009

YES, IT IS TRUE! THE TRAINMASTERS ARE BEING REMOTE QUALIFIED IN
CINCINATI. WHY? HMMM....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 January 2009

hey this is for:
 M of W, for 30+ years

I dont know if you notice but the website you logged on to is
csx-sucks.com. People come here to bitch and moan and complain you
jackass. hince the website name. If your coming to this website site
your not coming here to look for praise about how well the company is
treating you. Your coming here to voice your disgust of how the
company
is treating you or read how bad somebody else has got it.

Surely you been in the same spot these lemon heads were once and you
complained just like they do. In fact by your statement you still
fucking complaining now its just about something different. So why
dont
you go back to your corner with your bottle of "skin-so-soft" and
jerk
your self a shake.

From what i can tell you've been here for 30+ years and havent
retired. your tit you've been sucking on must of dried up by now.
Your
more than likely afraid if you retire you'll prolly kill over cause
there nothing in life left for you but to bitch and moan about the
lemon heads.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 January 2009

Maybe not you, never had any respect for a company suck, but I will say
that we have the softest side of the labor thing, I have nothin but
respect for track workers, they earn their money, but people like
yourself I guess just dont get it, management expects me to do my job,
all I want in return is compensated for it, dont want a at-aboy, just
want to know that management will have my back when I fuck up, and in
some sort or another, everyone will, I dont care how well you know all
the rules!!! And fyi- I paid for my job as well. was first group in
cincy's class, costed me a little over 3,000...I beleive this venting
thing is good therapy,feel much better, beleive Im gonna kick the dog
and t-bag the worse r half this morning! And if any u old farts dont
know what t-bagging is, work with me one time and fall asleep over
there, you'll learn....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 January 2009

has anyone heard rumor about all trainmaster getting remote qualified?
what this all about?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 January 2009

WAH, WAH, WAH. Cry me a river. So the railroad isn't being fair to you
huh? Sounds like Jimmy was pulled off momma's tit too early. Gee,
guess what? Life ISN'T fair. Get over it and quit yer bitchin'. And
yes, if you don't like it, quit. It's a free country. Just don't
come to work with your shitty attitude and insist on ruining my day. I
have my own problems, and I don't insist on sharing them with everyone
within earshot. If you thought CSX was going to let you come to work,
jack-off all day AND pay you a fairly decent salary for what amounts to
menial labor, you're an idiot. Get over it, or just move on please.

Name: autorackwithdrawal
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 January 2009

Last time I checked I am a 6 digit number to CSX not a 5 digit. I am
sure it was a typo and I got your idea.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 January 2009

Face the facts people(green heads), your are nothing but a 5 digit
number to them, they(way upper management) could care less for your
lively hood,. The only digits the jacksonville jackoffs are worried
about is them 6 digits they pull in from our sweat! I know Im venting
about something everyone should already know, but it just gets my goat
when you try to warn someone whats going to happen,(and this only will
get worse), and you hear- they told us at the redi center that we wont
be laid off...rol lmao!!!! They hired the shit outta people here in the
Huntington division, now they laid off people that wasnt even done
training, how about that shit. If you get a chance, burry a boner in
their ass and tell my yardmaster that this sexual encounter isnt meant
for him. And yea I dun it posted in every forum, so suck my ass!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 January 2009

Why is it so important to cut all these poeple off now? The economy
didn't "just" get bad its been that way for the past year, and yet
we continued to hire. Who knows maybe it's easier to hire and
furlough, than to give MANAGEMANT at the R.E.D.I center their walkin
papers. In my area we now have an engineer extraboard, as well as a
trainman extraboard, and guess what? All the trainmen are FRA card
holding cut back engineers. Anyone smell a single craft board? It's
here, but the bigger issue is the fact that this company continues to
cut it's revenue employees ie: T&E, yet it keeps more and more of the
nonrevenue officials, this is a big problem. Keep your heads up, the
stock value is part economy,and part reflection on the decisions this
misinformed management make, not the performance of our T&E doing what
they are told. If you have spent anytime at all between the ditches,
you too have shook you head in disblief as some trainmaster fresh out
of colledge (with no tools to fall back on)instructs you to do some of
the stupidest things. But rest assured the buck gets passed should
someone question his decision. You want to see just how much of a joke
this management is? Try this, go to any trainmaster and ask for a rule
clarification, any rule, now notice if you get a cut and dry answer, or
a "I'll get back to you", or he calls a higher source to pass the
buck. There are still some good mangers out here, but pressure from
above keeps them at bay. A good trainmaster will answer you questions
without missing a beat, and will support what he tells you to the
bitter end. A few are still out here. I do uderstand the need for some
cuts, but cutting the dead weight with the BIG salaries, makes better
sence than cutting T&E employees, it's pennies to the dollar fellas.
Thank you for the forum to ramble. Rely on ourselves to turn this thing
around. Be positive, if we work together this will once again be a proud
place to work. Hang in there "lemonheads" I feel for you.

Anyone happen to see the on the UTU website, where the elimination of
entry rates of pay will be inforced? Maybe this has something to do
with job loss, form your own opinion, who knows?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 January 2009

South Philly yard is due to close March 1,2009. Shared Assests will have
one job and will take over any CSX business that is left. 
All switching operations will be split between Cumberland and
Baltimore. 
NS and CP are in negotions with CSX to lease or buy a portion of the
yard for their own operations. The remaining track will be torn up so
CSX will have a reduction in the amount of taxes they pay. Both yard
offices in South Philly and Wilmington already have contracts in place
for demolition for the same reason .....tax reductions.
CSX is waiting for the consolidation of the yardmasters at RG tower.
For the road guys at RG.........serious, very serious discussions about
road trains with just the engineer. CSX people have already been talking
to Amtrak, both in Washington, DC and Wilmington,DE. about how to
implememnt it. Their plan is to put one utility man (12 hour shifts) at
Manville with a company vechicle to help any train that is in trouble. 
I would urge all of you to think very hard about what is going to
happen. The unions will be unable to stop this. If you dont believe
me.......look at RR history.
Sorry for the information.........but information is power.

Name: Darren Owens
E-mail: Alcoholics Anonymous
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 January 2009

Billy Jack you are the reason I tired into an alcoholic cocaine abuser! 


It was not my fault I was too fucking stupid to become an engineer.  My
drinking and drug abuse was somebody elses fault.  Screw you!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 January 2009

All furloughed employees should apply and work the night shift at the
local adult bookstore. At least you would have your dignity back.
you will never have any dignity as a man working for CSX.

Name: Billy Jack
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 January 2009

As a dedicated CSX official, I am delighted to see the division in the
Union T&E employee ranks. Ya'll make it so easy for us to do and keep
our jobs. It's not that the company is out to get you; ya'll get
fired for being stupid and/or lazy. If you don't like CSX- then
quit...otherwise, shut your hole! Have a safe CSX day now- ya hear?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 January 2009

Boo Hoo!!!! You poor pitiful person. That has to cry on every thread on
this forum because you don't wany anyone to miss out on your misery.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 January 2009

Congratulations CSX... your 4th quarter earnings report showed
everything up over last year, even in these tough economic times.  I,
in the meantime, am waiting for the call informing me that I have been
furloughed.  I have just one thing to say... if you think my attitude
was bad before, just wait til I get that call to come back!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 January 2009

Hey C&O Joe,

 Friend .....you are the pussy for not educating yourself for a job
that you can have pride and dignity in doing. Life is about choices and
you choose to stay in WV and work for CSX. It must make you feel really
warm and fuzzy knowing you moved 100 railcars for bosses that consider
you to be nothing more than an endentured servent.
 They know you will jump when they say jump.......no questions asked.
You will just walk away with your orders and call them names behind
their backs. If you stood up to them face to face like a real man, you
know they will retailate. You would lose your job. So like the rest of
the sheep you go along and do as your told.........like a little
bitch.
 How sad when your friends and family are talking about the great time
they had at your kids birthday party. Hopefully they made a video of
it. You of course ....like the pussy you are...wouldn't mark off sick
for the party. CSX could cause you trouble for taking time off.
 I'll bet Ward, Ingram and your trainmasters dont miss times like that
with their families.
 My kids are proud that I am their dad and spend time with them. My
kids were sad when I worked for CSX.......never knowing if I was going
to be home for their play, football, baseball or other events. Now I
make the time because I am not in fear of losing my job. I can always
find a job making good money because I choose to get the skill sets I
needed not to live in fear. 
 I thought long and hard before I quit. I only have so many heartbeats,
AND I DONT WANT TO GO TO WORK BITTER, MAD AND IN FEAR of some officer or
conductor losing my job for me. I had pride in my job, CSX does not
reward pride in a doing good job. I had faith in my fellow workers
until they wouldnt stand up and tell the truth. I had faith in my
bosses, until they told one to many lies. I had faith that I would get
a days pay for a days work.
 CSX as a company will not treat you as a man........it doesn't have
to. They treat you as the scared little boy that you are.....living in
fear. Fear of being fired or worse terminated. CSX knows the unions
wont back you at any monkey trial they hold on your behalf.
 I believe that a man should make his own destiny......you dont.  
 Your life is totally defined by what you do......working for CSX and
believing what they unions say. (EX. The SSA is a great agreement).
 Your life should be defined by who you are and how you live your
life.
 I made a choice ......to live by my rules, not CSX's. So I quit. That
doesnt make me a pussy. That makes me a thinking man and not a sheep.
 Bitching may be what railroaders do, but real men don't. What other
company do you know that has employes needing an alternate web site
such as this? Ever see IBMsucks.com or Fordsucks.com. 
 Real men do what makes thier life and the lives of others better.
 When you live life like that you can be proud of what you do for work,
family, friends and the commmunity.
 So live and work in WV work for CSX, that's your choice. My choice is
to follow a better road.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 January 2009

What is going on rail roaders, i am interested in true honest
information about working in newport news va as a track worker, i need
to know the real deal, what is it like, working conditions, the
location, people, the job, and of course fulough.  To all rail roaders
i want to thank yall, because you guys are the back bone of America,
thanks.

Name: Hamlet Conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 January 2009

I would just like to say that in 2006, I thought I wanted to work for
the "Railroad". So.... I dropped my $50,000.00 annual salary job only
to give $5,000.00 and three months of my life to CSX to go to school and
train to be a "CONDUCTOR"....Oh! the benefits are great!!! They pay
you 85% of what a "seasoned" conductor makes, even though you carry
the same responsibility!,They give you 30 shares of stock for every
year you work ( It's on paper....you cant touch it till your of
retirement age...so it's useless...just like the management! ) They
send you monthly letters from the "DUMBASS" boss Michael Ward,
telling you how much money the company has made, and how "HE" really
appreciates your efforts when it comes to safety and efficiency....and
then in the same breath....tells his "Peeons" we need to furlough!!!!
From the inside looking inside!!!!! I've never seen a company.....and
I've worked for more than one.....that is sooo mismanaged by a bunch
of "DUMBASSES". I thought my government was giving me a good
"FUCKING".....well me and several others were sadly mistaken! I would
hate to know I was one of the "BLIND MOTHER FUCKERS" setting on the
board of directors watching all this shit go down!!!!!!!The people that
run "CSX" are over payed and as usless as "TITS ON A BOAR HOG" This
is for you-Michael Ward (just happens to be "GAY"!)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2009

Quit your f...ing whining and just quit. There are other RR and other
jobs. I quit with over 10 years........could not be
happier.....weekends off, time with family ..etc.
Just quit.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 January 2009

LE 1-10

"I hate CSX" has to be the most idiotic comment I continually read on
this website. It's a job. You're free to leave at anytime. If you
still have a lifetime left to work out here then there's no need to
stick it out. It won't get any better. 

I might get frustrated at the continous rule changes. I might get
perplexed by some of our managements decisions. I definitely do not
like the training for new hires it's inferior. The list could go on,
then again I don't hate CSX. I might not like them at times but it's
their railroad.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2009

So basically in reading through all that, there should be what, about 30
more days for them to come up with something?  Yeah I wont hold my
breath for any good news because Im sure it will get swept under the
rug just like it did in 04.

Name: willie
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 January 2009

Hey Conductor 1-10 years here's your answer: 
                 
      UTU fights to erase entry-level rates 

WASHINGTON -- A veteran railroad arbitrator began deliberations Dec. 4
into whether to order carriers party to the national rail labor
agreement to resolve a dispute over entry-level rates of pay through
collective bargaining or further binding arbitration. 

Arbitrator Robert Peterson said he would attempt to reach a decision
sometime in January.

It is the position of the UTU that once conductors and yardmasters are
hired, trained and given full responsibilities, those conductors and
yardmasters should be paid full service scale, meaning the same rates
of pay as their peers with similar training and responsibilities.

The carriers, on the other hand, have declined to resolve the matter
and seek to continue a two-tier wage system. Under that system, new
hires, regardless of the training they receive and full responsibility
they are given, must wait five years to reach parity with other
conductors whose responsibilities are similar. 

Although some railroads have scrapped entry-level rates for newly hired
and fully-trained conductors and yardmasters who are given full
responsibilities, it is the industry norm to pay them less for the
first five years.

During the 2002 round of national handling, the carriers agreed to deal
with this issue at the "earliest opportunity" during the 2004 round of
negotiations -- to address the relationship between training and
experience and rates of pay. 

That did not occur, and the 2008 ratified agreement (which grew out of
the 2004 round of bargaining) provided that the two sides would
arbitrate over how and when the carriers would deal with the issue of
entry-level rates tied to training and experience.

Entry-level rates of pay were first agreed to during the carriers’
dark-days of the 1970s, when many railroads -- much like the automobile
industry today -- were mired in financial losses and facing poorer
prospects. 

In 1978, the carriers demanded, and obtained, a rule that required new
employees in the industry to work for the first year at 90 percent of
service scale. In 1985, as the industry continued its struggle to
regain profitability, entry rates were obtained as a result of the Van
Wart Study Commission established by President Reagan.

During these dark days for the railroad industry, train crews were
reduced from five members to just two, and yardmasters were given
increased responsibilities. 

Moreover, the progression from brakeman to conductor, which previously
typically required five-years or more of on-the-job training and peer
mentoring, was eliminated as carriers instituted formal training
programs designed to place new hires immediately in conductor
positions, or to accelerate the progression from brakeman to conductor.


Yardmasters today are required to be familiar with new technologies and
are subject to ongoing formal technical training, and local management
is not experienced enough to assist new yardmasters as was the case
prior to 1985.

In fact, lengthy on-the-job training and peer mentoring has largely
disappeared. Today’s new hires typically receive concentrated, focused
training to ensure they possess the technical training and skills to
perform their assigned duties without supervision or assistance from
more seasoned veterans. 

These fundamental changes and sweeping work rules concessions served
their intended purpose. Indeed, today's challenge is not how to fill
the railroads’ unused, excess capacity, but rather how to increase
capacity quickly enough to meet an exploding demand for rail service.

In response, during the 2002 round of contract bargaining, the UTU
demanded elimination of entry rates, and they were completely
eliminated for all employees as of June 30, 2004, immediately bringing
those employees to full rates of pay for all crafts and grades of
service.

However, for new employees hired after July 1, 2004, entry rates
previously in effect on each property were permitted again to become
effective. But, the parties mutually agreed that this important issue
would definitely be addressed as early as possible in the next
bargaining round.

The carriers did not comply with this agreement during the "next
round," which was the 2004 round of contract bargaining. Ultimately,
the parties agreed that third-party intervention would be necessary to
resolve the outstanding dispute as to the meaning and intent of the
agreement to deal with the entry-rates issue.

The question put to the arbitrator Dec. 4 was whether the carriers
complied with their written promise to deal with the entry-rates issue;
and, if not, what is the appropriate remedy for the carriers’
non-compliance?

The UTU told the arbitrator Dec. 4 that the remedy should be an award
that requires a 60-day negotiating period with a mandate that the
parties submit the dispute to interest arbitration if the dispute
remains unadjusted after the 60-day negotiating period.

Also serving on the three-person arbitration panel with Peterson are
UTU International President Mike Futhey and the carriers’ chief
negotiator, Robert Allen.
 
December 5, 2008

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 January 2009

does anybody know what came about with the new hire entry rates? I
thought we was suppose to know something at the beginning of the year

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 January 2009

Shan:

Yes, I would get an attorney and file a suit.  CSX hates being sued,
yet they deserve everything that they get!  I hate this company with a
passion like many others, and it doesn't pay to be nice about it. 
Stick it too them as they do to everyone else.  I don't have a
bullseye on my back as of yet, but I have already prepared an attorney
for when they decide to take a shot at me.  CSX does SUCK!

Name: Shan
E-mail: ShannonSWalker@Katyisd.org
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 January 2009

While my husband was NOT an employee of CSX he was one for UP.  He was
dismissed after one mistake (and owning up to it) and never having a
blemish on his record for 7 yrs and several others have done far worse
than he and were put back to work within days of committing their
offense. Also, the jerk that turned him in had harrassed him since day
one and we have documentation where it was requested that some kind of
formal reprimand was done to take care of this and of course, NOTHING
WAS DONE !!  We have had a claim filed with BRS for 2.5 yrs and nothing
has happened with it.  It is still in arbitration.  Anyone have any
suggestions for filing a suit or getting an attorney??? What should our
next step be, we only have until July and then they dismissed it all
together form what we understand.  He is a great signalmen with alot of
backpay owed to him !!  God Bless and thank you very much for any help
you can provide.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 January 2009

Kuhner is still in Chicago in charger of the transit dept.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 January 2009

Anyone have the details on Scott Kuhners being fired in Chicago? Rumor
has it he's coming back to Yardmaster at Huntington.

Name: 3-step
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 January 2009

Good luck getting those code 08's paid. They will either be denied or
stay under research until the trainmaster approves them! For those
furloughed or about to be, I feel for you guys. Keep your head up and
if you find something better take it and do not answer the phone when
the railroad tries to call you back.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2008

The UTU should join the IBT Rail Conference (Teamsters).

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 December 2008

If you want things to be better, we need one union to represent all!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2008

I too was just venting. I've spent my life out here. Time went by
quickly. Not that I want to get older that's reality. My reward is
retirement I sure hope these last years don't drag on. This next
generation needs to get rid of the blinders and start looking at how
contracts local agreements ect...affect things years down the road.
Make the union responsible for their actions. It only takes one
local/division to circulate a letter/petition around to other
locals/divisions to get the ball rolling. Heck in this day an age of
computers emailing has made it easier. Once the General Commitee of
Adjustments starts feeling the flack they'll be scrambling. When it
comes down to contracts quit looking at signing bonuse or back pay
start look at work agreements and pay raises those are the future. That
signing bonus/back pay will be gone in a flash. 

Turned down claims the railroads bank on 85% of those to be schidt
canned and not forwarded to the LC for processing. It may take 3-5
years to get them paid. They'll never be paid unless you take the
responsible action. That game has been going on for along time. 

My peers an I are at the end of our railroad carreers we've seen far
to many changes none for the good. From the loss of the caboose to the
loss of 3/5 of our crew members. Just like my predessors who went from
steam to diesal electric locomotives technology has done way with a lot
of jobs. The unions need to protect jobs for those affected by such
changes lifetime gaurentees for those working at the time of
implementation. That is not happening.

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 December 2008

Im not out here for recognition or a pat on the back, I just want Ive
earned! Im not a whiner, I guess I just need to vent somewhere, and
where better, hopefully labor relations will get a clue, business 101,
catch more flies with honey rather than shit.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2008

You'll never be satisfied if you think along those lines. If CSX makes
you disguntled then they won. If you have this need for some kind of
recognition you lost. Your just a union contract employee. Get use to
it. This isn't IBM or any other company. This is the railroad there's
two catagories management and union contract employees. You can whine
about the union all you want. I won't disagree that there full of
bullschidt, but that's our fault. Nobody to blame but ourselves
complacency has hurt us. Everyone just sits back and takes all the BS
without doing anything. They whine, bitch, and complain the union
doesn't get my claims paid the union doesn't wipe my ass for me blah
blah blah!!!! I'll be glad to get the hell out of here when my time
comes around. To bad men aren't men anymore there nothing more than
snivling whiners.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 December 2008

Well, I don't think anyone will accuse CSX of utilizing BMPs (best
management practices). 

Whether or not you are a contract or at will employee it's important
to offer a occasional good word and pat on the back to them; if you
expect them to look out for your interests. 

If you expect your employees to accept responsibility for their
actions, it's not unreasonable for the employees to expect their
employer to do the same.

If you expect your employees to be ethical in their dealings with your
customers and the general public, you better lead by example.

CSX fails on all accounts!

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 December 2008

I somewhat disagree with that, I work for csx, the utu is there, as any
union, to negoiate and enforce our contracts, a middle man so to speak.
If I run thru a red signal, the union will not be firing me. Ive only
had 3 jobs in my life and Im 45 yrs old, and this company is by far,
the dirtiest company(treatment of employees) Ive ever heard of. I first
worked for IBM, and when management needed a boost in production, they
offered incentives, off shift and weekend pay differential, and if we
met quota, bonus's were given. After I first hired on here, I realized
that I shoulda stayed with IBM snd moved to Bocca Raton. And the last 4
yrs have been a absolute nightmare, I hope someone in management
actually reads this, I have never seen or heard of such thievery,
harassment, discrimination and deception as with this company(csx). Im
not a disgruntle employee, Im a father and husband trying to take care
of my family, and Im only getting negativity and deception from both
csx and the utu. Management, if you violate our contract, should you
not be responsible for your actions? If we violate a rule, we are
expected to be responsible for our actions. To all that reads this,
there might me a little light afar, google nrab, if our unions dont do
there job in 60 days, we are entitled to file a claim for contract
violations, and contract violations only, any one can file, read it for
yourself here...   www.nmb.gov/arbitration/nrab-instruc.pdf

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2008

fedup

Your a union contract employee. CSX doesn't owe you anything. In the
past maybe the safety money allotment would have gotten a $15 Walmart
gift certificate or a coupon for a turkey for Christmas depends on the
individual terminal. Nothing more. You're not entitled to a pat on the
back for doing a good job no acknowledgement at all because you're a
contract employee. You might work for CSX the union is actually the one
who provides the labor force. It doesn't matter if CSX, NS, UP, BNSF,
CN ect...are making record profits. You are only entitled to what your
contract allows. As for denied claims that's been a game between the
carriers and the unions forever. All anyone can hope for is your claim
isn't bargained off to pay someone elses.

Name: doesnotmatter
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A
Posted: 27 December 2008

To:FRA Inspector

Employees should be aware, giving negative infomation to a FRA
Inspector is not always going too be used against CSX or another
Railroad.  Some Inspectors are buddies with Management plus CSX can
bribe higher up government officials.   If you are trying too get your
employer in trouble then this might not be such a wise choice.   The
FRA does not send your paycheck every 2 weeks plus all the other
benefits.  Remember the kids and wife got too eat.

If this site was setup with better website software and format then
maybe this could be a forum for improvements. 

Railroad.net is a nice site and setup well

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 December 2008

Just would like to know what our beloved company with its record
breaking profits got everyone for x-mas?

Ill start- notta a fukin thing, warm letter from ward letting me know
how Ive contributed to his wealth. we didnt even have a safety dinner,
but at least they annulled my job, by the way, by contract, im supposed
to be entitled to a 08 claim, i feel confident the utu will get me all
these 08's paid for this year, starting to lose hope about the
previous years 08 claims, surely my union wont let me down.

AND IF YOU DIDNT KNOW...CSX SUCKS AND OUR UNIONS ARE SUCKING THEM!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 December 2008

I am a new employee with csx. I hired out this year and have not been
marked up long. I work out of Erwin Tn. I was reporting for work
yesterday ( the day before Christmas Eve ) and opened my ears up to a
consversation between two employees a trainmaster and the terminal
manager. The talk was that all yard switchman positions was going to be
cut off at the first of the year. They just installed electronic
switches all over the yard I guess is the reason. They are also cutting
off all utility and hostler jobs. This will affect me im sure. I knew
before coming to work here that there had been guys fourloughd for a
long time so i knew there was a chance, but I didnt expect to get hired
and then them cutt that many jobs off. My question is does mow employees
ever get the fourlough status? does csx ever cut back on trainmasters
where the bigger money is? does CSX ever cutt back on crew management
or payroll etc. Is it just transportation? You would figure by keeping
transportation strong your company would perform more smoothly. Watch
out for electronic switches cuting your switchman off at a terminal
near you. I cant imagine how this would affect a big terminal
considering the damage its going to do to a small terminal like little
erwin tn.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 December 2008

anyone know anything about Dwayne Pelham?

Name: Goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 December 2008

Now Fellas read back a few post. You seem to be very pleased with CSX
and the situation as it exist. You do not like the Union, but support
it? No one liked my simple comments on a RR without a Union.
SO would it not make sense that you do like it with one.

Do you know that Fedex is NON UNION, yep and they are just one of many
that really have happy campers. Wonder how they do that. They get along
with each other, 2 way street.

RR's could do the same it just takes 2 sides to play. However you
would need folks that play well with others. I have no influence but
you do, maybe, just maybe one day.

GOOFY

Name: wk
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 December 2008

I'll keep it short and to the point:    Goober is a scab.

Name: 
E-mail: fitzgerald ga
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 December 2008

if you  think the U T U  LOOKS OUT FOR ITS MEMBERS THEN JUST CALL mr.
JOHN hancock and ask him what HE DID about VANHORN THE RETIRED LOCAL
CHAIRMAN AT FITZGERALD WHO STOLE over 250,000.00 FROM THE MEMBERS. I
CAN TELL YOU NOTHING EVEN AFTER THE PRESIDENT IN cleveland told him to
handle it.vanhorn took these claims from the men working the extra
board who paid for their jobs. yes that is right a quarter millon
dollars.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 December 2008

Fed UP:

We agree that we need one union, and we weren't saying that the unions
currently suck.  We were trying to point out that to have no union
protection or agreement would be suicide;  unless your name is Goober.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 December 2008

I can't say which branch I worked at...but, feel the need and am
compelled to share my story.  First off, I grew up in a small town,
joined the Armed Forces, and then came back and went to college.  I
went to work for CSX a couple of years ago and was working on the
locomotives.  I have always been a rail buff and never really wanted to
do anything else but to belong on the railroad.  I have been a long time
collector of railroad memoribilia..with that being said, if you work for
a railroad and am a collector, I would strongly suggest you get rid of
it.  Do not sell it!  burn it...or throw it in the trash.  It ended up
costing me my job.  I didn't get fired, but was asked to leave.  Not
having the money to secure a lawyer and fight the battle, I decided it
would be in my best interest.  Even though I had substantial
documentation and witnesses that knew I had the material prior to
working on the railroad, it didn't matter to them.  Just thought I
would share the information, as I wouldn't want anyone else to get
treated like the dog they made me out to be.  Not only this, before
everything was said and done, one of the managers was slandering my
name..before anything was decided.  I have never in my life been
punished in such a way.  I could understand maybe if I had a proven
track record.  I've never really been in trouble in any way.  A few
minor traffic infractions...that's it!  But, they responded as if I
was a convicted felon.  The union of course wasn't much help
either...(they advised me to resign)  what a great union!  All the dues
I paid....for nothing...
  I have sinced moved on an am receiving some job offers.  Can't wait
to get my weekends back and start living more of a normal life.


"A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise one learns from
others."

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 December 2008

Get real people, our unions suck and constantly violate their
constitutions, hell even our new utu leader has said in so many words
that the previous leeches were corrupt. What we need is one union
comprised of past and present RR workers from both crafts watching out
for us, and the major stipulation for the job- you can only earn 70% of
the highest wages you protect! You think our unions are fighting for us,
goto nmb.gov, go to the knowledge store and see just how many times our
unions have been at bat for us, search for nrab awards and see how many
times they have taken our claims there for mediation. We are the problem
because we let this go on, like an ostrich, we just bury our heads in
the sand and hope it goes away. Yes we need the unions, as do the auto
workers, but when we see smoke, we need to at least see whats burning.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 December 2008

You really are a retard named Goober.  Take away the union, there would
be NO man trains, we would be paying for our own hotels, meals,
gasoline for milage, probably no health insurance, be fired on the spot
with no justification, and deal with Workmens Comp if we get hurt.  A
good company like CSXT? they are more crooked than any union you can
think of.  Join in and be part of the progress?  I've said it before
and I'll say it again, you are exactly the opposite of what this site
is all about.  You are a railroad reject that couldn't hack it with
the big boys, so you compulsively come on this site because you have no
other life but to live in your railroad past.  Talk to the hand because
I support my union local, and have no time for a company man or someone
like yourself that supports the company over the union.

Name: csxalltheway
E-mail: IhateCSX@BLE-T.org
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 December 2008

Goober,

You make these outlandish quotes against the progress of unions without
any actual support.  

Paid vacation, 40 hour work week, personal leave days/holidays, were
all negotiated by unions.  This was not offered by some generous
employer.

I have been with the railroad for twelve years.  This year I grossed
seventy seven thousand.  I did not bust my butt to bad.  I worked a
total of 165 days.  I more than qualified for vacation.  Now what do
you think a roadformen of engines or a trainmaster made?  I know it was
not that much.  OST's start at 49900.  Assistant TMs may make 55000. 
Now add in their 15% band bonus.  Oh yeah, officers pay more for shitty
health insurance too. The company even two tiered their own pension fund
in 2002.  Go figure.  They fuck us but fuck officers harder. 

Fuck the company and your anti union propaganda.  This web site was not
founded for people with your views and it is not maintained for such
either.  

In closing, I would appreciate it you could back up these statements
you make.  If not go post on yardlimits.com or trainfoamers.com.  I am
out!

Name: Goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 December 2008

Sure not a problem at all.

2 Unions UTU/BLE are pissing on each other as fast as they can. They
both want the MONEY. Because it is going away as we talk.
The union is why you have 2 folks on a train. Not 5-6
The union is why you have the remotes. now 1-2
The union is why you are not a part of the enormous progress the RR's
have made in the last 20 years.
The unions are why you get a short check, when you claim iffy stuff.
The union is why you work on call without an 8 hour window.
The union is why you do not get 100 miles/ 8 hours as a basic day.

Take a good company as CSX is and could be a lot better, stop the
fighting, it is not working. Watch the UAW go away, they are holding on
to nothing, all they have is dues. goldenfinger(SIC) was so sad/

It is time to join in and be a part of the progress and not a part of
the problem. It will happen-- labor and management will merge and both
will be the better for it. Example if this was done 10-20 ago you would
not only have a RR pension from the RRB but also one from the CSX. Yep
collect twice just as a Trainmaster does.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 December 2008

No Goober, but you act like one all the time!  Everytime something is
posted, you reply in favor of the company, example, "CSXT does not
need a union nor do you."  I've worked on both sides myself and I can
tell you that this outfit would have a field day if there were no union.
 I admit that the union hasn't done much for all the BS that goes on
out here today, but we would still have alot less without one.  I watch
people get fired all the time, spend some good time on the street, then
suddenly show up for work months later as if they were never gone. 
Take the union away, watch them get fired, and you will never see them
again!  That is just one good example of why we need them.  Besides not
paying dues every month, why don't you tell me how good things would be
without a union?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 December 2008

CSX got off cheap on this!

   http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=45073

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2008

To Locomotive Engineer 1-10
13 december 2008

And your opinion is what? 
I have been on both sides, paid my UNION dues, and refused to pay my
UNION dues. Yep I was what they called a NO BILL at times.

I have never been a Mgr with CSX.

GOOFY

Name: curious
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 December 2008

With regard to the bridge in Nashville that CSX is refusing to be a
responsible corporate citizen about:

Has any thought been given to

1) Does CSX really want to leave this ripe target for graffitti
artists?

2) A letter, phone call, e-mail campaign from all the local citizenry
requesting action, with follow-up communicaton on a regular basis?

3) Is there lead paint coming off the structure that local, state or
federal agencies should know about, that may require mitigation?

4) Is the structure located in such a way that the community may erect
banners, across the road for instance, that obscure the ugliness and
provide a canvas for some civic message?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 December 2008

A company mans opinion without a doubt.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 December 2008

CSX does not need a UNION nor do YOU.

Attitude/ Action is all anyone really needs. Yep, you do not need a
Degree from anywhere to be successful. 
Those that run slow, and take advantage of the employer can get by for
years sometimes a career. They only hurt themselves, because everyone
know's. They lose respect, job performance ratings, salary increases,
and many times their job. Then move on and do it again. This is called,
striving for failure, they do it over and over until it proves to be
true.

Get up, clean up, and leave the cave every day and bring home something
worthwhile. Just like the cave men did. It has not changed.
RR folks can generate a few paychecks that will allow those that are
conservative, to move on in style to bigger and better opportunities.

Just my opinion.

GOOFY

Name: Green Manalishi
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 December 2008

CSX has recently announced its new slogan for the upcoming year:

"SAVING MONEY BY SACRIFICING QUALITY"

While this has always been past practice at CSX, it becomes official
commencing with the first quarter 2009.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 December 2008

UNIONS!!!  YOU MEAN WE HERE ON THE RAILROADS HAVE UNIONS?  WHERE? I DO
PAY MONTHLY DUES TO THIS ONE GROUP, BUT ITS ALWAYS EMPLOYEES AND
CONTRACTS LAST PRIORITY.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 December 2008

Where are the Unions...MIA or AWOL...really doesn't make a bit of
difference.

Goober is right, no representation...no dues, then perhaps you'll get
their attention, until then nothing will change.

It wouldn't hurt to lay pipe to the Trainmaster that denied the claims
either!

Name: fedup
E-mail: fuck csx
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 December 2008

Pretty simple, shouldnt fuck with a mans pay, especially this time of
year. If I have it cumin, pay me, dont want anything that I have not
earned. csx robs us and then expects us to work safe, get fucking real.

Name: fedup
E-mail: fuck csx
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 December 2008

Well, pulled earning statement up last night and guess what- after Ive
been working as safe as I possibly can, they denied all my claims-
denied 8 hrs pay for attending hearing screening- denied 08 claim for
annulling my job on turkey day- denied both 45 & 46 claims for both
days- but they paid my mileage for driving to hearing screening- keep
it up cocksuckers, I feel a gainer with a full twist a cumin on.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 December 2008

Family day. When I was a little boy I went with one dads buddies and his
family to a family day at the yard (at that time it was Chessie System).
They had a cookout and gave out stuff for us kids and let us get up on
an engine and caboose. It wasn't much but it was a really memorable
experiance for a young kid like myself. I'd love to have something
like that for my kids but I guess with the modern day liability those
days are a thing of the past.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 December 2008

CSX will pay you the big bonus when they pay everyone else? Heck man
there is no Bonus system that works on the railroad for Train crews. It
is a gift program.
The union is there to simply take your money, take your phone call, and
tell you the money is coming.

UAW is staged to really take it in the shorts.

GOOFY

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 November 2008

Hey Loco 10-20:

At least when you stop punching the concrete wall, it quits hurting.

In regards to your back pay, you might need to stop being a nice guy
and hire a lawyer. CSX will slow play it until you die!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 November 2008

Perormance Bonus - yeah it sounded like a good idea. Where I come from a
contractual agreement means its binding. Here it is going into December
and Im still fighting to get paid for the performance bonus that was
due at the beginning of the year... CSX our agreements bind us as
employees...WHY DOESN'T your agreements bind you ?  Sad to think that
a hard working man as myself has to deal with issues like this myself.
Fight a big company like CSX ? Might as well be punching a concrete
wall... Thanx CSX, one of these days I might bring my children to a
family day so CSX can see who they are really screwing...SHAME

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 November 2008

I was removed from service a few years back without a hearing,
investigation, or 7 day letter. I simply received a call from local
manager saying I was removed from service due to charges that were
filed outside of the railroad... I proved my innocence in a court of
law & the charges were exsponged from my record. I submitted claims for
the days I was out of work ( 98 days total ) which have yet to be paid
or denied, they are still in research. I had a hard time coming back to
work due to the fact that 
CSX officials and Jacksonville couldn't place me back into service for
weeks due to not knowing who removed me or why I was Out Of Service. The
charges remain on my work record and I have yet to see those claims paid
after hounding the union and payroll for years. For more than 10 years
the claims have remained in research.... I ask you, WONDER WHAT'S
WRONG WITH MORALE ?  I GUESS IT MUST BE A PART OF THAT BIG PICTURE I
KEEP HEARING ABOUT.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 November 2008

Hey Friend:

It costs money to advertise on NPR every day too...to tell the public
how they can move a ton of freight 423 miles on a gallon of fuel. I
haven't quite figured that out and I doubt the public has or even
cares.

CSX would do better maintaining their infrastructure and painting their
logo on it, at least in the urban areas than advertising on NPR or PBS.

CSX like the other RR's will let their infrastructure crumble and wait
until the next big omnibus transportation bill comes up and then beg the
Government for help.

A free market economy at it's best...the rich get richer and poor
can't fail and the tax payers lose!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 November 2008

I would imagine the cost of sandblasting, mitigation, and disposal of
blast aggregate and old lead based paint gives the Bridges department
sticker shock seeing as how upkeep of plant is not on the priority
list.  Sad!

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 November 2008

CSX can paint all of the bridges that they have. The RR's did it for
years. Had a crew of 4 that painted the ohio river bridge from
Evansville to Henderson. Yep they started on one side and worked until
they got to the otherside, and started over. 

CSX decided to not do it, and no one can make them. I question the
structural integrity of this and many bridges. They look awful, and
they are everywhere, rusting away as the RR makes a ton of money.

We had nice painted bridges and 20 mph track, now you have nice
mainline track and ugly bridges. It would really be nice to have our
basket full??? just does not work that way.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 November 2008

Said it a thousand times over and over again....CSX is CHEAP!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 November 2008

Hey Fedup:

This should raise a hackle or two...CSX claims to be a good corporate
citizen, a good neighbor. Yeah right, would a good neighbor let the
appearance of their property trash the whole neighborhood and then have
the gall to ask their neighbors to pay to clean it up?

  
   
CSX wants taxpayers to paint its bridge

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- If you own a house that's run down and not up to
code, the city will make you fix it. But the same standard apparently
does not apply to a huge corporate railroad, the WSMV Web site reports.

Metro Council wants CSX to paint an aging railroad bridge downtown, but
the company wants taxpayers to pay for it. 

"You look at all the money that we've spent downtown and how nice it
looks," said District 12 Metro Council Member Jim Gotto. "Then you
look off to the right and here's this bridge. It looks like hasn't
been painted in 100 years." 

Most of the time, run-down private property would have Codes tracking
down the owner, but as long as you're on rails, it seems appearances
don't matter. 

A couple of weeks ago, Gotto drafted a resolution requesting CSX fix
the rusting bridge. 

The Metro Council unanimously approved the resolution asking CSX to
paint the bridge, but the response from the railroad wasn't exactly
what they were hoping for. 

"(They) essentially said, 'We don't have money to do it. If you want
to give us tax money to help us, we'll certainly let you do that,'"
Gotto said. 

The response came in a letter and delivered a sense of being snubbed. 

"They didn't even have the courtesy to have an individual sign it. So
that, to me, was kind of a slap in the face as well," said Gotto. 

More than anything, Gotto said he feels a company that has recorded
record profits this year should not ask citizens to pay for the
expensive paint job. 

"It's their infrastructure," he said. "It doesn't belong to the
taxpayers, it doesn't belong to the city, and I think it's ludicrous
for them to ask for the taxpayers to help them fund taking care of
their own infrastructure." 

There's little the council can do right now since the railroad isn't
breaking any existing ordinance, so Gotto is looking at creating one so
he won't have to look at the bridge. 

"I'm not going to give up," he said. "I really feel like they
should take care of this." 

CSX said bridge safety is their No. 1 priority and that most of their
maintenance money is devoted to that. There is a smaller pool of money
dedicated to beautification projects. 

But with more than 16,000 bridges nationwide, it's difficult to grant
all requests for aesthetic work. 

(This item was posted Nov. 18, 2008, by WSMV.com.)
 
November 18, 2008

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 November 2008

I over heard a conversation between 2 officials last week about the
revenue made from 1 loaded coal train, a 100 car train carrying around
14,000 tons is worth 1.5 million, wow, and these cheap bastards have
the nerve to rob us. the ones who are expected to load and move and do
paper work on this cash cow, any body that thinks this company feels
for you needs medicated, as for me, Ill medicate them(csx management)
as much as I can, mainly with loaded suppositories.

Name: Former NO&M Engineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 November 2008

I've always heard about this site but ironic as it may appear this is
actually my first time really reading alot of the posts here.
Nevertheless, I agree with a vast majority of what has been expressed
here regarding CSX. Some things mentioned here are wayyyy over the top
in delivery, but hilarious nevertheless. Well having said all of that I
FINALLY made the decision to resign from this company recently, and my
only regret thusfar is not submitting my resignation form 8 to 9 years
ago. If you work for this company then you already are fully aware of
the deplorable conditions/policies that you're subject to adhere to
from CSX, so I will not engage in any "last or final insults" or
anything of that nature....however I will say that there are "greener
pastures" else where and that you should begin to explore any
available options as ticket away from this place if you are truly
unhappy as I often was while at CSX.

Anyway I wish you all the best and good luck to all of you. If any NO&M
subdivision guys are reading this I enjoyed working with all of you and
hope that conditions improve for yall. Peace!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 November 2008

Exactly, you get paid time and a half if you work the yard but not the
road.  Does that make any sense?  CSX SUCKS!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 November 2008

Hey Loco 1-10:

That's one thing I could never quite get a grip on. Most other
industries pay at least time and a half on holidays.

It has been a while, but if I recall correctly, in yard service you
could claim a "holiday gift" if you wanted and still be home with
your family after a generous quit. In a lot of cases they would annul
the job for the day.

Road service is altogether a different story...no incentive for working
the holiday. CSX's answer is the availability policy and
they try to arrange it so the crews are home in time for Thanksgiving,
Christmas and maybe Easter.

CSX's management is their own worst enemy!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 November 2008

THE REAL QUESTION IS, WHY ARE THE GUYS EVEN FORCED TO BE OUT THERE ON A
HOLIDAY LIKE THANKSGIVING OR CHRISTMAS WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS
COUNTRY IS SHUT DOWN?  IF EVERTHING ELSE IS SHUT DOWN, AND YOU SHUT
DOWN WITH IT, NOBODY IS GOING TO FALL BEHIND.  IF THE COMPANY FORCES
YOU TO TRAVEL ON HOLIDAYS, WHY DON'T THEY COMPENSATE YOU JUST A LITTLE
MORE FOR NOT BEING WITH YOUR FAMILIES?  WE ALL KNOW CSX CHEAP.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 November 2008

loco 1-10 Really good point,
Why show up at 1800 and sit for 3'45. The reason is Shit happens.

I sat on christmas Morning in 1966 from 6.30am until 12.52 yes that is
6'22 minutes for a frozen train line. I remember it very well. Hungry,
Pissed, and nothing to do but live with it.

The Train moved when we should have been tieing up. Got paid for every
part of it, and my family suffered. It get's tough at times my friend.


No one on the RR in Transportation suffers as much as the family and
especially the kids. Just the way it is, need to feed them before we
can love them.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 November 2008

yes, you are right albert einstine, only black and white i thought it
was supposed to be diversified.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 November 2008

what managers are you talking about, you have got to see the picture
with the pink bunny, then you will know. it is fuuuuunnnnnnyyyyy. all
you need is a first name and a face i guess.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 November 2008

How come Csx calls trains for say 1800 and does not have you out of the
yard til say 2145? hmmmmmmm Mr Ingram where do you find your Managers
at?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 November 2008

The 5 minute management course 

      

  Lesson 1: 


A man is getting into the shower just as his wife is finishing up her
shower, when the doorbell rings. 

 
The wife quickly wraps herself in a towel and runs downstairs. 

 
When she opens the door, there stands Bob, the next-door neighbor. 

Before she says a word, Bob says, 'I'll give you $800 to drop that
towel.' 

 
After thinking for a moment, the woman drops her towel and stands naked
in front of Bob, after a few seconds, Bob hands her $800 and leaves. 

 The woman wraps back up in the towel and goes back upstairs. 

When she gets to the bathroom, her husband asks, 'Who was that?' 

'It was Bob the next door neighbor,' she replies. 

'Great,' the husband says, 'did he say anything about the $800 he
owes me?' 

 
Moral of the story:  



If you share critical information pertaining to credit and risk with
your shareholders in time, you may be in a position to prevent
avoidable exposure. 

 

 
Lesson 2: 

 
A priest offered a Nun a lift. 

 
She got in and crossed her legs, forcing her gown to reveal a leg. 

The priest nearly had an accident. 

 After controlling the car, he stealthily slid his hand up her leg. 

The nun said, 'Father, remember Psalm 129?' 

 
The priest removed his hand. But, changing gears, he let his hand slide
up her leg again. 

The nun once again said, 'Father, remember Psalm 129?' 

The priest apologized 'Sorry sister but the flesh is weak.' 
arriving at the convent, the nun sighed heavily and went on her way. 

On his arrival at the church, the priest rushed to look up Psalm 129.
It said, 'Go forth and seek, further up, you will find glory.' 


Moral of the story: 

If you are not well informed in your job, you might miss a great
opportunity. 

 

 

 

Lesson 3: 

A sales rep, an administration clerk, and the manager are walking to
lunch when they find an antique oil lamp. 
 
They rub it and a Genie comes out. 

The Genie says, 'I'll give each of you just one wish.' 

'Me first! Me first!' says the admin clerk. 'I want to be in the
Bahamas , driving a speedboat, without a care in the world.' 

Puff! She's gone. 

'Me next! Me next!' says the sales rep. 'I want to be in Hawaii ,
relaxing on the beach with my personal masseuse, an endless supply of
Pina Coladas and the love of my life.' 

Puff! He's gone. 

'OK, you're up,' the Genie says to the manager. 

The manager says, 'I want those two back in the office after lunch.


Moral of the story: 

Always let your boss have the first say. 

 

Lesson 4 


An eagle was sitting on a tree resting, doing nothing. 

A small rabbit saw the eagle and asked him, 'Can I also sit like you
and do nothing?' 

The eagle answered: 'Sure, why not.' 

So, the rabbit sat on the ground below the eagle and rested. All of a
sudden, a fox appeared, jumped on the rabbit and ate it. 

Moral of the story:  

To be sitting and doing nothing, you must be sitting very, very high
up. 

 

Lesson 5 
 

A turkey was chatting with a bull. 
 

'I would love to be able to get to the top of that tree' sighed the
turkey, 'but I haven't got the energy.' 

'Well, why don't you nibble on some of my droppings?' replied the
bull. They're packed with nutrients.' 

The turkey pecked at a lump of dung, and found it actually gave him
enough strength to reach the lowest branch of the tree. 
 

The next day, after eating some more dung, he reached the second
branch.
 

Finally after a fourth night, the turkey was proudly perched at the top
of the tree.

He was promptly spotted by a farmer, who shot him out of the tree. 


Moral of the story:  

Bull Crap might get you to the top, but it won't keep you there.. 

 



Lesson 6 


A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold the bird
froze and fell to the ground into a large field. 
 

While he was lying there, a cow came by and dropped some dung on him. 

As the frozen bird lay there in the pile of cow dung, he began to
realize how warm he was. 

 The dung was actually thawing him out! 

 
He lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to sing for joy. 

A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to investigate. 

 
Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of cow
dung, and promptly dug him out and ate him. 


Morals of the story: 

(1) Not everyone who craps on you is your enemy. 


(2) Not everyone who gets you out of crap is your friend.


(3) And when you're in deep crap, it's best to keep your mouth shut!






THUS ENDS THE FIVE MINUTE MANAGEMENT COURSE

Name: CSX BLOW
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 November 2008

Not supprised to hear about Milton NoMO! He has to be broke by now with
all the running for office he has done in the last few years.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 November 2008

It looks like Mikey Ward has dumped his CSX stock on November 5, 2008.
Anyone know the reason why?  We are talking major bucks. CSX has been
extremely good to Mikey. Go to CSX on the finance page. Pull up insider
transactions. Mikey will be having a great Christmas!!  How will yours
be?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 November 2008

Well even the gnashing of the teeth is over.

You can all sleep well tonight knowing that CSX Transportation
Supervisor (Yard Master) Milton Morrow lost his bid to become the
Mobile County Treasurer. He will therefore return to making CSX 
millions.

If I recall correctly, he's 0-2 running for elected office. He must be
dissatisfied with his present employer. What is amazing is that he got
74,345 votes!

C'est la vie!

Name: CSX BLOW
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 October 2008

Recived the thrid letter today in a 2 year period that CSX has over paid
me and they they will take back my money in 250$ incraments. The over
paid claim was for back in June. Now we can only go back 2 to 3 months
on our claims what gives them the right to go back further? LOL.... 
This company is such a joke! They dont pay you what youre intitled to
and then they come back and take what you were paid! Another good
reason to screw their eyes out at every chance given and feel good
about working for a company like this ( BTW thats sarcasim )!Just makes
me not want to even go to work anymore so I wont be treated like shit on
a daily basis and not have to worry about having a job when I come home
to my family.You know I wish somebody would blow the whistle on these
sons of bitches and go on FOX news and let the whole country know how
CSX really treats their employees! I cant do it because they are so
vindictive they would fire me. All you people who have been terminated
by this company should get together and do it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 October 2008

October 30, 2008 and CSX still SUCKS!  Some things will never change.

Name: run thru switch
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 October 2008

Farewell to the smartest trainmaster i have ever known Sir Rich Brown
(AKA)the hitchman u will be rarely missed in augusta hope things
workout for you in florence with daddy wolfey and little brother
guenther up there florence boys now is complete with the best
management team on the system you guys are AWESOME!! I hope you guys
will be around for a long time i have made more money this year than i
have ever made since being on the railroad i am 100% rules compliance i
love the rules you guys are coming up with just by chance is their a way
yall can come up with some more rules so i can get slower everyone wants
yall to leave i want yall to stay you guys are a clas act I LOVE YOU
GUYS!!!!!!!!! 

oh yeah rich how many years did you have to go to school to get that
culinary arts degree might be interested in carving some turkey or
baking a ham maybe you can give me some ideas!!!!!!!!!

          you will be missed rarely rich

Name: train masterbaitor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 October 2008

Hello, Letting everyone know that goober takes it in the ass from me
everyday!!! He is more than willing to suck my cock when it gets hard!!
GOOBER you are such a little suck ass so wipe the cum off your mouth!

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 October 2008

Any one know anything about these new thugs we have in the hu division?
scott connors,  brian stussy, adam hawkins, the last 2 are tm's.

Name: Cant Win
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 October 2008

My first post.  Henderson Division here lately its all crap.  I dont
understand how the company can just do what they want and Look you dead
in the eye and say i know i broke the agreement we have to do what we
have to do.  How can the utu just stand for that. I have come to the
conclusion that CSX can just do what they want with no regards to out
contract.  They know that the utu cant and wont do a dang thing about
it.  I just went to the utu website and looked at the photos of some of
the meetings man what nice places they have those meetings.  Guess who
pays for that.  WE DO.  What do we get, we get 4 jobs cut off the
evanville yard.  Im sorry if i mispelled some stuff im just so ticked
off.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 October 2008

Hearing Test.
Take the call and inform the caller of your hearing test, time and
date.
Call before your shift and inform crew mgt of your time and date for a
hearing test.

Let CSX call the shots, they will advise you, pay you, and make the
decision for you.

Get Smart.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 October 2008

Hey destroyer-Might wanna re-read the guys post again . He posted as
conducter 1-10,would that not mean he isn't an engineer re-certing?
And where in gods name is it in the rule books?And where does it say it
needs done before July?Same rule book I suppose? Just playing devils
advocate. All T&E employees are to take mandatory hearing tests per the
FRA.Might wanna re-read the paper work notifying you of this. As far as
the 3 hours pay I agree it sucks when you have to mark off to get this
done,Mine was scheduled on day off,went to appointment(lasted one hour
maybe) while in town and spent rest of day with spouse,kinda had dinner
out at companys expense.

Name: Joe 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 October 2008

hey dude. Hearing tests are so that CSX can screw us out of any hearing
disability we get down the road.  lets face it. after working 30 years
on this railroad anyone who aint got a hearing problem is either
working in corporate all their life, or they were born without ears, or
your just too deaf to give a damn anymore and just waitin for the
pension to kick in.  

sure. rob the guy his 5 hours for taking a company hearing test.  then
get laid off if you dont pass.  smells like shit to me.

Name: The Destroyer
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 15 October 2008

If he was taking a required hearing test would that not imply he is in
recertification?

Does the rule book say that this is done before July?

He gets driving miles to and from that required test.  He is told where
to take it.

The contract was violated?  He's lucky he wasn't held out of service
three months ago.

Gotta be the devil's advocate occasionaly to stay objective people.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 October 2008

Hey Goober,

Take the time to READ posts before you reply... that guy said he missed
his turn to work.  In case you can't comprehend that, I'll try to use
small words... he should have worked 8 hours and would have gotten paid
for 8 hours.  Instead, he took a FRA REQUIRED hearing exam and got paid
3 hours... if you're still not following, 3 is less than 8.  That
means that required exam COST him 5 hours pay!!!  This isn't the first
time I've heard this... a couple of guys in my terminal had the same
thing happen to them.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 October 2008

Mr hearing Test,
Darn hate that when it happens, only 3 hours paid for a hearing test,
wonder how long it took to go take that puppy 3 or 4 hours driving, a
few meals, a motel, a few hours for the test, and a return trip to the
old adobe. Heck fire it should have been 3 days at least. Turn in more
time, the union will get it for ya. Remember the contract says time
consumed x Infinity?
GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 October 2008

I've now heard three different times around Avon that former
Trainmaster of the Year(Corporate Suckass) Tom Cook was caught
embezzling funds.  Anyone know the real scoop ??????????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 October 2008

Just printed my latest statement of earnings and... surprise, a denied
claim.  Had to mark off to take the FRA mandated hearing exam and
missed work, so put in my 8 hour claim for wages lost.  DENIED... they
paid me 3 hours, saying that's all we're entitled to.  What's the
point in having a fucking contract when it's never adhered to???

Name: Ben Demover
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 October 2008

As to the previous post.

WTF ???????

Looks good on paper, it was lost somewhere in the application.


Have an ethical CSX Day.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A
Posted: 02 October 2008

Responsibility: Workplace

"Our success as a company begins with how we treat one another at
work. We sustain an ethical culture by treating our co-workers with
respect and dignity."

- Tony Ingram, Chief Operating Officer, CSX Transportation



Safety
We have rules. We have procedures. We have Personal Protective
Equipment. Every single employee is tested and certified on their
knowledge and practice. LEARN MORE


Diversity
We respect differences, we reward teamwork, and we treasure and
capitalize on talent wherever we find it. 


Training
Talent and potential are in every part of our organization. Our mission
is to spot it, develop it, and help the people who possess it to make
the most of it - for their benefit and for ours.

Name: Bozo
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 September 2008

Where your denials go, to pay the salary of the top dgos at CSX:

KEY EXECUTIVES   
  Pay Exercised 
Mr. Michael J. Ward , 58
Chairman, Chief Exec. Officer, Pres, Chairman of Exec. Committee, Chief
Exec. Officer of CSX Transportation Inc. and Pres of CSX Transportation
Inc $ 2.08M $ 940.00K 
Mr. Oscar Munoz , 49
Chief Financial Officer, Exec. VP, Chief Financial Officer of CSX
Transportation Inc. and Exec. VP of CSX Transportation Inc N/A  N/A 
Ms. Ellen M. Fitzsimmons , 47
Sr. VP of Public Affairs & Law, Corp. Sec., Gen. Counsel and Sr. VP of
Law & Public Affairs - CSX Transportation $ 774.00K $ 1.65M 
Mr. Tony Ingram , 61
Chief Operating Officer of CSX Transportation Inc and Exec. VP of CSX
Transportation Inc N/A  N/A 
Mr. Clarence W. Gooden , 56
Chief Commercial Officer, Exec. VP of Sales and Marketing, Chief
Commercial Officer of CSX Transportation Inc and Exec. VP of CSX
Transportation Inc $ 882.00K $ 2.05M 
 
 
Dollar amounts are as of 31-Dec-07 and compensation values are for the
last fiscal year ending on that date. "Pay" is salary, bonuses, etc.
"Exercised" is the value of options exercised during the fiscal year.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 September 2008

THAT DUDE WAS SUPPOSEDLY STANDING IN THE GAGE NO RADIO OR LANTERN
SUPPOSEDLY THE TRAIN WAS BLOWING THROUGH CROSS BUCKS RIGHT BEFORE THE
INCIDENT

Name: Ben Demover
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 September 2008

Denied a 2 hour shove claim after riding a car almost 2 miles through a
town over 5 highway grade crossings.  Also denied a valid runaround
claim.  Took the crew behind me on a deadhead home because the engineer
had to get back to be a witness at some investagation.

Rick Reed, you and the band of retards at payroll are nothing but a
pieces of crap in workboots and khakis.

Name: Ben Demover
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 September 2008

Newsflash,  Unless he moved again.  Kurt Miles is an Asst. Terminal
Super in Chicago.  Albeit, he was pretty straight up when he was down
in the Avon area, you had better be on his good side or he'll put it
to ya like a house cat.  100% rules compliant; if it takes 12 hours to
move one car, you've done well young Skywalker.

Have an ethical CSX day.

PS  CSX is to ethics what V.D. is to love.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 September 2008

Ugly Stik:

Kurt Miles?  He's a former trainmaster from Philly... actually a
pretty good guy.  Always seemed to be fair.  If that's him, you should
be ok.

Name: Ugly Stik
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 September 2008

Hey there,

Has anyone heard of the new Road Foreman of Engines in Birmingham. 
Suppose to be working on the Lineville side.  They say his name is Kurt
*****?.  What's his name?  They say he's Joel "RA RA" Hudson's
brother in law.  Is this a ethical policy violation?  Where'd he come
from, the jail cells of New Orleans?  Also, it was said that Tom May is
Joel Hudson's father in law.  Is this True?  ANYONE KNOW THESE PEOPLE?

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 September 2008

LE 1-10
Listen, keep those ears on, and you will have a long career, with good
benefits.
You have your side, and I can see your feelings. You are laying them
out, right or wrong they are yours.
Now let's evaluate them. You will always have to deal with those that
you favor and those that you do not. If handled correctly you will have
more on your side than on the negative side.
You can build a support system, for yourself thru your efforts, and the
comments from others.
You may feel that what they think of you means little to you. This may
be the difference between where you are now, and where you might be in
a few years.
Really simple. If you are comfortable, and things are working well for
you NOW, make no changes. If things are not what you want, make a
change or two, it can go your way. Open those ears and learn as you go,
personal relationships are Very Important. 
The very best part is You do not have to like them, nor do you have to
trust them, however they must think that you do like and trust them. It
is not dishonest, it is just called NICE.

GOOFY 
Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 September 2008

Goober,

The point is that it can go both ways out here.  Some trainmasters
that
have worked in the crafts know what it means when it comes to a pay
shortage.  Some trainmasters only care about there bonuses and will
not
help you one bit.  Myself, you couldn't pay me to trust management at
CSX, I would rather fight for my money with my LC rather than ask
management for a favor; they have screwed me one too many times.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 September 2008

Goober,

The point is that it can go both ways out here.  Some trainmasters that
have worked in the crafts know what it means when it comes to a pay
shortage.  Some trainmasters only care about there bonuses and will not
help you one bit.  Myself, you couldn't pay me to trust management at
CSX, I would rather fight for my money with my LC rather than ask
management for a favor; they have screwed me one too many times.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 September 2008

Look back for 2 really great posts.

LE 10-20 10/9/2008
LE 1-10  11/9/2008

The 10-30 Engineer is trying very hard to explain how things work for
them. Question the move (if necessary)Know and understand the Tm's
thought process, and gain from the learned knowledge.

The 1-10 Engineer dismisses everything that was said and falls back on
Mtg bonus, Union rep will handle it ETC

I find this interesting, -----Some times you Eat the Bear---and
sometimes--- the Bear Eats You.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 September 2008

Has anyone heard who the new road foremans are and where they are going?
Hope we dont get another jackass....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 September 2008

Okay, Good luck with your claims. Like you said. You fight for them to
be paid :) Mine will get paid next week without question. I once waited
over two years to get a claim paid because I let my Conductor go through
the union and fight for it while I stood by to let him learn his lesson.
I have never called my local chairman to get a claim paid. It's really
not his job anyway although I know he will take on that responsibility.
They end up talking to the Trainmaster in the end. They just don't tell
you that they had to suck up to somebody to get it paid :)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 September 2008

I don't suck up to any trainmaster to get my claims paid.  They don't
pay them because they get a big bonus in the long run.  I don't bargin
to find out what claims they are willing to pay either because I know
what claims are valid and what I am entitled. Put in your claims and if
they don't get paid, you turn them into your local chairman, and he
sends them into labor relations.  I fight for every claim!  
  You have to think about what you said.  Your telling the trainmaster
that your not gonna do the job because they don't pay the claim?  He
can still order you to do that job no matter what, and telling him your
not gonna do it can be considered insubordination.  I have a local
chairman that does his job!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 September 2008

Something to think about. If I put in a valid claim and it later gets
denied, I immediately realise that this particular Trainmaster really
does not want me to perform that particular task. If told on a later
date to perform this same task again, I simply remind them that it
won't get paid so therefore I am not doing it again. This almost
always prompts the Trainmaster to say "Just put it in, I will pay it"
(That is, if they really need it done)It has never failed for me that
when I ask approval from the Trainmaster before performing the task and
then claiming the claim, It always gets paid. Don't ever be fooled by a
Yardmaster or anyone else that your claim will be paid. Talk directly to
the Trainmaster and get approval to perform the task with the
understanding that you will claim the penalty claim. Then inform them
immediately when you put the claim in on the 03 screen as a reminder
that they agreed to pay this claim and watch how easy it is to get your
claims paid. Get to know your Trainmaster, find out which claims that
they are willing to pay and not willing to pay. (This is easy, just
ask!) If they are not willing to pay certain claims then they will
understand that you will not perform them just the same. Follow my
advise and you will see. In fact! Copy my post and hand it to any
Trainmaster and ask them if they disagree with anything I have written
here. Most important... You have to talk to the Trainmaster yourself.
Don't trust a yardmaster or clerk when he or she tells you to do it
and put the claim in later. Your pay is approved by the Trainmaster!
This includes all penalty claims. Don't surprise them after the fact.
It's a 99% chance your claim will be denied due to a lack of
understanding.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 September 2008

September 9, 2008 & CSX STILL SUCKS!!!

This website is great!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 September 2008

It's back. This was a long shutdown.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 August 2008

Corman's helicopter flying over short line yesterday

Name: dork
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 August 2008

Pete,,,did you ever think they just want to look at your johnson
rod??they don't care about the pee..they just want to see how you are
hung..if you are big enough you can go to jacksonoff ville for the
annual circle jerk..it lasts all year so you don't have to worry about
being late.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 August 2008

Under the new FRA guidelines for post incident and short notice testing
under the EAP the requirements are to disrobe and be under constant
observation while urinating. Seven rail unions and the BNSF (the only
railroad) is filing papers stating this is a violation of the 4th
Amendment for illegal search. This is your goverment in action under G
W Bush since he appointed the administration of the FRA. The loss of
freedom since his presidency is staggering. McCain would be just more
of the same. Vote this November if your not registered do it. This
country is going down the drain fast.

Name: piss test pete
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 August 2008

What is with the post below about them watching the urine coming out of
your penis????  Is this the rules?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 August 2008

I am so proud to see most of my fellow employees not kidding themselves
about how goddamned poorly CSX treats their employees! CSX management
reeks of a mean-spirited stupidity. How many times have we heard,
"They make money inspite of themselves!"? In my own personal
experience (and that is fairly broad), I have never felt so
unappreciated and taken advantage of as I have working here. Cutting
jobs, getting beaten by Payroll. Weak-ass UTU won't do anything for
you. Asshole management trying to fire you over piddling bullshit just
to make themselves look good! Bastards hiding in the bushes to see if
you're using a brake stick and them firing you if you didn't because
you would have had to walk a mile to go get one! Safety pricks trying
to make their quotas and go home and not seeing the forest for the
trees. Government wanting to fine you for making mistakes that you
wouldn't have made if you hadn't been called out on short rest or at
3 o'clock at night in the pouring rain... and now forcing us to
actually allow them to see the urine come out of our penises! Talk
about sexual harrassment! I think you are all some of the best, hardest
working guys I have ever met and this company should bend over backwards
to kiss each of your asses! But we all know these sorry, greedy bastards
will take each of us for granted until the day we retire, are fired, get
slightly hurt or permanently killed, or simply ran off 'cause we can't
take the bullshit any longer. I hope God greatly blesses each of you for
the misery you have had to endure from this company on a daily basis...
and that fat, lazy slob of an engineer's wife and Tony Ingram fan can
shut
her ignorant mouth.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 August 2008

I do not see why we can not get paid for the work we perform... Last pay
period I claimed a code 75 we crewed our train outside of terminal
limits and to the train on to chicago. They paid it then this half they
took the pay back. The reason they have is claimed on wrong division
well where we got on was nashville and at our terminal it turns to
chicago. I clamind it under nashville i just want to get payed for my
work not like they dont have the money.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 August 2008

the l@n is like the south ,it wont rise again

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 August 2008

loco 1-10
 your youth is showing everyone knows that coal is,was,and always will
be the backbone of the csxt,and it flows mostly over the c&o

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 August 2008

FUCK THE B&O, THE C&O, THE SCL AND WHOEVER WANTS TO RUN WITH IT; IT'S
THE L&N THAT IS THE FUCKING BACK BONE OF CSX...TRY TO CONTEST

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 August 2008

Its Wednesday August 13, 2008 and CSXT still SUCKS!

Name: htla
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 August 2008

annd mikey hedge fund ward sells off another sub...thank god he is still
the ceo...............and not tcf

Name: B&O hogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 August 2008

It's official now.......Grafton and Parkersburg will be leased to
R.J.Corman Railroad before the end of the year.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 August 2008

Hey Pops, Watching the fools is just a cyber blowhard like BR Boggs. Got
nothing. Getting none. Only friend is the ol' hand cart. He never
marked up a single day so just ignore him. Any one with the income he
claims who wastes his time on this site is a liar-period. He is one of
those kind you see the Air Marshals escorting off Southwest flights. Go
flog the mule 7 or 8 times Fool , then you'll be able to go to sleep.
HAR HAR!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 August 2008

Watching the Fools, 

Dammit, you chastise someone for their use of words then turn around
and do the same. Who's the fool? I've seen TM's come and go. I'm
still here. I play the silly games they require you to dish out and
work by 100% rules compliance. One thing that has greatly changed we
don't make decisions anymore there has always been an easy way and a
hard way of doing things ya'll haven't figured out the easy way it
makes me money. Hiring management off the street or hiring those with a
year on the RR was a stupid move. I guess upper management thinks they
can mold ya'll into their obscure way of thinking. Hiring practices
with this quick be a conductor in less than 3 months mentality you get
what you pay for an it shows. Oldheads make money with our knowledge
the OT is just handed to us so we can bail the railroad out. The
railroad will be in dire straits when we retire the fault lands in
managements lap.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 August 2008

My grammar and spelling isn't that good. It gets the point across.
That's what matters. I see quite a few people from the airline
industry trying to get hired on the railroad because of lay offs the
pitfalls of oil prices and poor management. I have nothing against
Southwest it's a good airline I use them to fly to Arizona at least
twice a year.

Name: Watching The Fools
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 August 2008

APE...is your sister at Southwest must be like the guy's wife you wrote
about in another post i read that you made earlier today. on her knees
for those nickel blow jobs.  i heard it ran in your family from a
yardmaster that you work with.

you people never cease to amaze me as to how stupid and silly you are
with these postings.  i wonder how a lot of you guys had sense enough
to pass the test to go to work for CSX.

i have a simple fix for your problem..go to work somewhere
else...simple enough for you...i hope....however, i have my doubts.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 August 2008

Other , I sure didn't see you post the correct "they're" either. Go
hire on at Southwest if you think you have a chance. My sister has 19
years there. The only reason they make money is management. They treat
folks decent. Not top heavy in management either like AA, UA,Delta, NW,
etc. I doubt if they would be interested in you . They have plenty of
applicants who don't prowl the web looking to stir up shit like you.
They'd smoke you out in the personality test. Just another no name, no
job, no prospects cyberspace loser. Wish ol' Herb would come out of
retirement and take over CSX. He could make this place profitable and
enjoyable again.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 August 2008

Plus, they get free flight benefits and can use the word "their" in a
sentence correctly, unlike you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 August 2008

Southwest has never laid anyone off and has made a profit for the last
30 plus years...can your beloved railroad say that???

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 August 2008

That's a good one!!! The airline industry their real stable?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 August 2008

southwest airlines is hiring. better benefits!!!

Name: ha ha
E-mail: lickmynuts@csx.blows
Employed as: CSX Contractor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 August 2008

you go no body- after taxes, ins, union sucks cut, and old farts cut,
thats all you will have left, change. all we have is seniority and a
contract, and its obvious, csx wont honor either. and btw- csx
management sucks, the job itself is great.  and yea i dun it, i posted
in every forum, so go ahead and lick my nuts!

Name: Noh Bodi
E-mail: hammerhead_73@hotmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 July 2008

If working for CSX sucks soooo badly, the doors are open. Nothing is
keeping you from getting another job.  If its as bad as this site says,
just quit. Also, this is a free country. ever heard of eminent domain?
If you're not happy with the rules or policies, try to CHANGE them. On
a side note, I even considered employment with CSX. I saw this site and
went to it with an open mind to see both sides of the arguement. I may
still try to get a job with them. maybe i can work for some CHANGE

Name: concerned conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 July 2008

Hey Caring Trainmaster, 

You might want to check on DICK REED out of Avon Yard, IN. (Now he has
been demoted to line of road because he screwed up the yard so much)  

He tried to order a friend engineer of mine on a work train recrew to
move his two engines to opposite ends of the train, then have the
conductor ride on the second engine with his foot on the dead man pedal
so it wouldn't go off because they couldn't disable it. It was screwed
up and would throw them in penalty even in trail. 

So much for you saying us dumb shits get hurt for not following the
rules.

Name: austin
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 July 2008

csx is the best and when i growup i went to drive a csx

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 July 2008

July 29, 2008 & CSX STILL SUCKS!!!!

Name: BoxcarBob@ Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 July 2008

Well I guess you said it all baby.  The reason that they have all these
checks and counter checks is because their training policy is so lame
that they have no confidence that anyone knows what to actually do.

The supervisors sure don't and its easy to tell just look at the lack
of experience they show.  Mindless storm troopers from a nazi youth
league who may not understand how to get the work done just how to run
your ass ragged with all these foolish mandates.

Not to worry.  I would just reccommend strike at many different
locations starting with the albany service lane and working its way
across CSX.  That's Crummy, Shitty and Xcessive Today and everyday.

Name: lloyd christmas
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 July 2008

10 dumbest rules CSX has.

1.  You can release that 3-step..Im in the clear of all track.
    As opposed to, you can release that 3-step, im in the middle of the
track, shove on back and put me out of my fucking misery.

2.  Tie those hand brakes and test them.
Well, holy shit idiots, if you put the hand brakes on the cars then I
would suppose that they work if they are on right?

3.  Calling signals.
Gee dispatcher, if you gave us a green fucking signal I guess that
means its okay to proceed right?  

4.  Wearing safety glasses IN THE LOCOMOTIVE.
Just what exactly is going to fly in our eyes...we can't exactly
protect our eyes from that burning sensation we sometimes get because
the fucking bathroom smells so horrendous.

5.  Marking off on weekends.
Dont you fucking assholes realize that people actually have lives and
would like to see their kids at some point before they are old and out
of the house?

6.  Watching shoving movements whether you can see the end of your
train..or not. 
Are you fucking retards serious?  If some dumb piece of shit wants to
randomly walk behind my shove when I can see the end of my cut, he
probably just needs to get ran over anyway.  

7.  Requesting radio check before starting communication.
Well gee George, I guess we must all be fucking retards out here. 
Maybe if someone doesn't respond that could mean you don't have a
good radio.  

8.  Putting the T at the end of CSX.  
Really, what the fuck does it matter?  Are you assholes really running
out of things to fuck with people about or do you want to enforce this
rule on a certain day because someone wiped their ass with your
toothbrush.

9.  Calling stop every 15 minutes.
Are you idiots serious?  Who's fault is it in the first place if we
have a red signal?  If you fuckers can't run trains right then don't
expect us to suffer because of it.  You try calling stop every 15
minutes for 4 hours and see just how ridiculous it is.  Guess what dumb
shits, you know where we are and it doesn't need to be announced.

10. Walking 25 feet in front of the engines before crossing.
Honestly, do you officials really think that we are going to cross in
front of a moving engine unless we have a death wish?

I sure do love making overtime from all your stupid fucking rules. I
also love how your payroll fucks everyone for every nickel and dime
they can so this company can keep that stock and profit up.  Keep
fucking with us CSX because we are all on the brink of saying enough is
enough.  It will be highly entertaining to see all those trains without
any engineers or conductors for about 2 weeks.  Bring on the strike
baby.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 July 2008

The only paper I'm interested in is cash... cold hard cash.  The stuff
that according to our "contract" we are entitled to, but aren't
given.  "Research", "Denied"... it's a big f'n joke!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 July 2008

Cond 1-10, That's CSX paper your wasting. So, add the cost of the paper
it all adds up to CSX paper being wasted. Don't just put in the claim
make three copies for various files. Personally I'd like to have the
paper rights to just one crew room it would make at least a mortgage
payment per month. Look at the cost overall it gets expensive. So, keep
filing those claims it's not costing you a dime just a little time.

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 July 2008

There is no such thing on CSX.  Everyone feels the same way.  Moronic
decisions that try to hide the true nature of the operations with
service and on time failures covered up.  

Liars figure and CSX management is full of liars.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 July 2008

Just opened an email from my local... of all the claims submitted for
review after they were initially denied, guess how many actually got
paid?  One... one lonely 8 hour claim out of how many?  What's the
point of having a contract that the company never honors?  What's the
point of putting in claims, watching them get denied, giving copies of
those claims (along with copies of switchlists, etc. that support said
claim) to your union, just to see them shot down again?  Wasting a lot
of time and paper for nothing.

Name: Tom Landry
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 July 2008

if you are looking for fairness here in the Syracuse terminal or any
where on the Albany Division forget it.  Nick Male the Terminal Manager
is an inexperienced idiot who is afraid of his own shadow.  The
supervisors here that were left over from Conrail will either conform
to the Nazi Youth League activities or be moved aside.  

On time performance and customer service is the biggest joke on CSX at
this spot.  Male and his trainmasters just tell the yardmasters to mark
every train out of the terminal on time.  let the crews explain why
there are delays.  It's the perfect solution for incompetent children
of corporate officers.  Just lie your way through to your next job.  Oh
yea and make sure that you excel in bushwacking.  Those are the ways
they get extr points from Adolph and the boys.

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 July 2008

Just wanted to let some of you guys know that the UTU DIPP Fund does pay
without a transcript.  On the form it says that a transcript "may" be
required.  I have only had one instance when they made a request to me
for a transcript and even that did not delay payment of the benefits. 
All the other times they paid with a simple copy of the discipline
letter.  They also paid when a waiver is signed unlike BRCF or LMPCA
who consider a waiver an admission of guilt.

Yes they do have the 11 deadly sins just like the rest of them but
after a couple of violations they (UTU) won't drop you like the others
always do. 

Those other forms of job insurance are now about to make changes that
involve not paying violations of some of the critical incident rules
and there again, the UTU DIPP Fund still pays those, including red
board violations.  You are not getting the whole story as I read it
here.

Name: Throttle Puller
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 July 2008

Work safe ya'll....who cares about their IDAPT or whatever it is.  Just
slow down, work by THEIR rules and open those pockets up.

You know, when I went to work for the railroad (L&N) 30 years ago, on
my very 1st day cubbing with a switch engine crew at Murfreesboro TN.
the conductor told me "son, keep your mouth shut, ears open and do
what they say, never offer any suggestions of a "quicker" way to do
things and they'll fill your pockets up."  You know, Mr. Jim was
right.  That was the best advice I've ever been given since I started
at the railroad.

30 years later, I still adhere to those words.

Be Safe...and hold those pockets open.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 July 2008

For starters, there is only one member of TCI that is going to be on
that board, the other three aren't employed by them.  Second, they won
four seats which doesn't even come close to giving them an upper hand. 
I'm willing to bet that you won't see the changes everyone is wishing
for.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 July 2008

It's out, TCI got four seats on the board...........

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 July 2008

BoxCar Bob
You said it well, however you still pay up??? WTF

GOOFY

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 July 2008

Good information on this site for all railroaders.  See how your
officers function for their own benefit. 


http://www.freewebs.com/savetheutu/index.htm

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 12 July 2008

the new IDPAP policy that was just put out by management on CSX was a
real example of how the union general chairmen have become lackies to
the company.  this policy is supposed to be ajoint labor/management
effort with an oversight committee of GC's.  CSX made the changes in
the policy and never even gave the union a chance to discuss the
changes.  Talk about deballing the General Chairman.  If old Terry Reed
was sitting in Jacksonville that wouldn't have happened.  I remember
when he wrote the policy with Ken Pieffer and had control of this
thing.  Now its just another tool for the managers to beat yo over the
head.  The changes for us transportation people were a joke while the
other crafts whether it is mechanical or whatever all have better
policies and far more input then the utu or the ble.  It is just
transportation and their rrepresentation taking up the ass again. Once
again the General Chairmen and Vice Presidents assigned to CSX fall far
short of doing a good job protecting us.  Thanks boys.

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 12 July 2008

the new IDPAP policy that was just put out by management on CSX was a
real example of how the union general chairmen have become lackies to
the company.  this policy is supposed to be ajoint labor/management
effort with an oversight committee of GC's.  CSX made the changes in
the policy and never even gave the union a chance to discuss the
changes.  Talk about deballing the General Chairman.  If old Terry Reed
was sitting in Jacksonville that wouldn't have happened.  I remember
when he wrote the policy with Ken Pieffer and had control of this
thing.  Now its just another tool for the managers to beat yo over the
head.  The changes for us transportation people were a joke while the
other crafts whether it is mechanical or whatever all have better
policies and far more input then the utu or the ble.  It is just
transportation and their rrepresentation taking up the ass again. Once
again the General Chairmen and Vice Presidents assigned to CSX fall far
short of doing a good job protecting us.  Thanks boys.

Name: sum dude
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 July 2008

has anybody reviewed the new idpap policy? i mean i may be new to this
company but it does not take me long to catch on to company policys and
how the company operates. now i have read it, and it seems that csx is
playing real hardball. i was reading the major offensives, and correct
me if im wrong, but majority of the things that u can get taken out of
service, now you can get terminated?? i mean lets say that union
representation was there and probably couldnt do to much about  it, i
think that more people will lose their jobs. for example, for a derail,
and im not sure if its in the yard or on the line of road, but you be
terminated, instead of being out of service. like i said please
somebody   correct me if im wrong, or if somebody can explain it to me
thoroughly.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 July 2008

Also, if the claims are denied, without explanation they are
automatically paid.  Time to get the LC on it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 July 2008

ARTICLE 48 YARD SERVICE PLAINLY STATES   ENGINEERS HELD ON DUTY AND
REQUIRED TO WORK MORE THAN (30) MINUTES BEYOND THE  EIGHT HOUR TOUR OF
DUTY CONTEMPLATED IN PARAGRAPH B ABOVE WHEN WORKING AN ASSIGNMENT THAT
IS RELIEVED BY A CREW ON A LIKE ASSIGNMENT ON THE NEXT SHIFT USING THE
SAME ENGINES WILL BE PAID A BASIC DAYS PAY ABOVE AND BEYOND THE
EARNINGS OF THEIR ASSSIGNMENT..  THESE CLAIMS ARE BEING APPROVED BY
LOCAL MANAGEMENT AND CREW MAGEMENT AND BEING DENIED BY PAYROLL.WHY

Name: dragline
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 July 2008

Remember this kind of crap and work 100% compliance only! That comes out
to $1,258,200 for some of you new hires.

CSX director sells shares at hefty profit
A director of freight railroad company CSX exercised options for 20,000
shares of common stock, according to a Securities and Exchange
Commission filing and the Miami Herald.

CSX is based in Jacksonville.

In a Form 4 filed with the SEC Friday (June 27), William C. Richardson
reported he exercised the options on Wednesday for $13.21 to $20.63
apiece and then sold all 20,000 shares on the same day for $62.91
apiece.

(This item appeared July 1, 2008, in the Miami Herald.)
July 1, 2008

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 June 2008

too close to call, hmmmmmmmm sounds like Florida all over again! Good I
hope the two hedge funds did succeed in obtaining 4 seats on the Board
of Directors. Maybe this will send a strong message that we're tired
of being pissed on, denied legitimate claims, harassed by its
incompitent officials, and threatened with our jobs to adhere to an
unfair attendance policy that doesn't take into account the numerous
hours we spend rotting away in a 1/2 star hotel at the away from home
terminal (while usually working an average of 10-12 hours going down
and back).

Since the inception of the remote controls they've eliminated many
jobs for my craft on the entire system, and have forced many like
myslef to work the extra-board who routinely cover road, converted
remote, and extra yard assignments while some 1-2 years neon green hat
wearing son of a bitch is able to regular hold a daylight yard
assignment with weekends off! Yet, these bastards have the audacity to
flood my mailbox with 30 million WHITE proxy forms, basicly requesting
that I help save the jobs of 5 present board members whom in my eyes
have contributed to the current state of this company that often pisses
on me! I believe they truly forget that we are the people who literally
makes this company progress and move, and yet inturn we are treated
like shit on many days and levels!

Furthermore, from my current understanding the new hires no longer have
to pay for school and their benefits and pay starts from the first day
of class. I haven't heard of any talks from management trying to
reimburse at least a portion of the 4-5K we spent just to attend school
alone......excluding the cost of hotel, food, and current bills you have
while enrolled @ Choo-Choo U! Nevertheless, this isn't an attack on the
new hire employees it's not their fault, they just got here and walked
into this situation.

I hope the news of the 4 seats is true, because this current regime or
administration is in desperate need of replacement. Hopefully 4 gone,
and more to come over the next few years!

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 June 2008

the old tradition of the engineer being the highest paid on the crew
wont fly with this bunch of vagabons (sp) I hope they are voted out
although they have already raped the company to fend for their
"unemployment" lol

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 June 2008

Great planning and representation by the BLE. The most experienced
person on the train is paid the less. LC's vote the GC's out, if you
have a spine.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 June 2008

Pop's,

I tried to join the BMWE seeing they belong to the IBT rail conference
they told me the same they didn't want to take other unions members
but couldn't find any reason why I couldn't join. So, Yeah, it's
being black balled. 

Claims? What are they? The moritorium has been up since april there's
been no word of any LR conference to get them paid. 

Just think Pop's by July we'll be the lowest paid person on the
train. The new UTU contract will have conductors making over $200 a day
at the base rate in '09. I did hear a funny joke someone asked "isn't
there a clause that states the engineer has to be the highest paid
person?". I just love a good sense of humor. 

Sonny

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 June 2008

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 June 2008

Nope, your only choices are the BLET an UTU. I tried to join another
one
seeing under the CSX/BLET SSA engineers became a closed shop.

  View This Article

I cant say that your only legal choices are ble or utu, but I will say
when I requested to join the carmans, and signalmans unions, I was told
that they didnt want to be taking members from other rail unions so yes
its  basicly that you are black balled.

to bad our general chairman have crossed over to managements side I
hope they choke on the perks they were rewarded.....like menefee, and
terry wells ,it will be awful hot for a long long time for them so let
them enjoy themselves now.

any word about collecting the ssa penalty claims, now that our
"moratorium" is over ?????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 June 2008

Mike Ward's end of days is here.  The vote in the swamp commences
today.  All I can say is sell your stock now.  No matter who wins, the
looser will be dumping his stock!


Wall street journal article:




Vote '08: CSX vs. Activists?Railroad's Investors to Choose Their
Course?By ALEX ROTH?June 25, 2008;?Page?C3?CSX Corp. and two activist
hedge funds with big stakes in the railroad company have bickered for
months -- over past performance, profit potential, plans for capital
investment and even how to interpret the company's balance
sheet.?They've fought to a de facto impasse in federal court over
securities law.?They've even argued about the location of the annual
shareholder meeting, a New Orleans railyard that CSX calls a showpiece.
The investors have labeled it "a swamp."?Now, shareholders are
scheduled to decide Wednesday morning whether to give five of 12 CSX
board seats to candidates offered by The Children's Investment Fund
and 3G Capital Partners LP, the activist hedge funds that control at
least 8.7% of the company's stock. Through so-called stock swaps, the
funds have an economic interest in a substantial additional block
totaling more than 11% of CSX shares.?The proxy vote comes at a pivotal
time in the railroad industry. Trains in the U.S. are undergoing a boom
not seen in decades, spurred in part by railroads' fuel-efficiency
advantages over trucking and their ability to bypass the country's
increasingly clogged highways.?Big-name investors such as Warren
Buffett and Carl Icahn have taken sizable positions in some of the
U.S.'s biggest railroads, including Burlington Northern Santa Fe
Corp., and Union Pacific Corp. Stock prices have soared. Since the end
of 2002, the Dow Jones Wilshire U.S. Railroads Index has increased
nearly 240%. By comparison, the Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 Composite Index
is up roughly 61% over the same period.?Last year, TCI, headed by London
financier Christopher Hohn, began accumulating shares of CSX, which
operates a 21,000-mile rail network in 23 states, mostly in the eastern
U.S. The company reported $2.3 billion in operating income in 2007.
Roughly half its revenue comes from freight such as agricultural
products, crushed stone and metal; a quarter comes from transporting
coal.?CSX management says the company is performing well and needs no
infusion of outside leadership on its board. The stock has more than
tripled under the leadership of Chief Executive Michael Ward, who took
the helm in 2003.?But critics such as TCI contend the company trails
industry rivals in key measures, including productivity and operating
expenses -- which the company disputes. After amassing a position in
CSX through stock purchases and stock swaps, TCI eventually joined
forces with 3G, based in New York. The funds announced plans to
nominate a slate of five candidates to the CSX board and launched a
public-relations war against the Jacksonville, Fla., railroad
company.?CSX has responded by accusing the funds of having little
understanding of railroad issues and being reluctant to make necessary
capital investments for the company's long-term needs. "I think their
real intention is to suck cash out of the company...then sell out and
leave somebody else to clean up the mess," Mr. Ward said.?Snehal R.
Amin, one of TCI's founding partners, says that CSX isn't nearly as
profitable or efficient as it should be given that the industry is in
the midst of what analysts are calling "the railroad
renaissance."?Mr. Ward also defended the choice of location for the
shareholder meeting -- the company's Gentilly Yard in New Orleans. The
hedge funds accused CSX of deliberately staging the meeting at an
inconvenient location. "They put it in the middle of a swamp in New
Orleans," Mr. Amin said.?Mr. Ward said the company chose that location
to show off how the yard has been rebuilt since Hurricane Katrina in
2005. He said the meeting will take place in an air-conditioned
tent.?In addition to their slate of board nominees, the funds want
shareholders to amend the company's bylaws to make it easier to call
special meetings. Mr. Amin said the two funds won't push for
significant management changes should their slate join the
board.?"There's value in the stability of management here and we
appreciate that," Mr. Amin said. "What we want is a board that can
actively engage with management."?Write to Alex Roth at
alex.roth@wsj.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 June 2008

Word around the campfire at rocky mount is that the TMs have covered up
at least 6 run thru switches this year.

Where does Wolf find these people?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2008

Poor Josh Claus has been shipped off to Baltimore!! Hope your nuts
freeze and fall off,oh wait your a nutless piece of work anyway arent
ya?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2008

1-800-737-1663....Just so you know, the ethics hotline and policy within
this so called company is a total joke.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2008

ANYBODY GOT THE NUMBER FOR THE CSX ETHICS HOTLINE ?????

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 June 2008

To C&O and others

If your check is short, And you know that you are correct, go down to
your local court house and file a claim in small claims. You will not
need a lawyer, you will rep yourself, no jury, however. You will force
CSX to defend their action or you win.

I would encourage you to have your stuff together, agreement, claim etc
as CSX will come prepared.

Get a few to do this, and see what happens. everyone doing nothing is
not working. Complaining makes you feel good but does no good. Test the
System and you may WIN.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 June 2008

Nope, your only choices are the BLET an UTU. I tried to join another one
seeing under the CSX/BLET SSA engineers became a closed shop.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 June 2008

if i'm not mistaken you can belong to any union that represents a
railroad craft. there are several of them like the train dispatchers
union, united steel workers, maint. of way workers, electricians union,
and thats just a few of them. a no bill engineer checked it out and said
you could join any of them because it says a railroad union not a
specific union. it's worth looking into anyway.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 June 2008

We need one union for everyone and not two that fight against each other
for stupid reasons.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 June 2008

does anyone know of a union i can join other than the blet or utu. this
is getting old.were paying for what now? if i could get all my claims
paid for the last ten years i could buy a new zo6.

Name: Cookie
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 June 2008

Just a friendly reminder to send in your blue cards, the deadline being
June 23rd.

Make your vote count and your voice be heard! :)

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2008

I've been wondering if calling the department of labor would yeild any
results? My thinking is that surely in all these years someone already
has, and apparently they wasted their time. I have to Belive that
there's someone out there that can force their hand on the issue. They
have the agreements in front of them they just choose not to abide by
them. It burns my ass that the other departments of this company arn't
held to the same standard of perfection that transportation is. Crew
man., officials, payroll, they fuck up all the time, where's that 100%
compliance? Crew managment is the worst. They take these fuckers out of
work release and rehabilitation programs, you can't understand them
and they totaly fuck up everything. I'd love to the figures on train
idle time due to these crew callers, they money and the % of delays
that are their fault. I'll bet it would shock you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2008

C&O Joe, I just had a Busted Call claim denied.  Perfectly good claim. 
First half it was in "Research."  This half it was "Not A Valid
Claim."  Then it asked me if the starting times have changed.  What
the fuck does that have to do with anything????  Damn bunch of theives.
 I'll hound them to death to get my money.  That also didn't pay two
ID meals and two Set Back's.  All perfectly legit.  Yep, they try to
steal from us.  No doubt about it.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 June 2008

C&O Joe,
You did a nice job of explaining your claim. you may have money due? It
happens that good claims are denied. They should not be, however humans
are doing some of the work, and it does happen.

Your UNION should be there for you on this one. Most likely you have
already tried that route ?

After submitting 3 times, and you feel that you have covered all of the
bases, and your claim is correct, and NO HELP from your UNION--- get a
lawyer. You will then know for sure who is right and who is hedging.
Most likely you will not have enough faith in your claim to do this,
nor the funds to follow thru, but maybe you should. You might even find
a young member of the bar to take on the CSX on a contingent basis  who
knows.


GOOFY

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 June 2008

alright goob, by you saying payroll acts in accordance with the
agreements I'm taking it that your assertion is that all good claims
are paid while only the thrivilous (however its spelled) are declined?
I was recently on an assigned manifest pool with 2 alternating turns
and a 7 day guarantee called regular at 2100. On a return trip back to
Russell I murphy and end up not quitting until 1830 meaning I am not
rested for my job that night and entitling me to a claim for 1 round
trip at  $202.45 each way. So I claim $404.90 for the lost work. The
simplest of claims. DECLINED! with a question: were you called for the
job?...................... What the fuck, no i wasn't you enept son of
a bitch! If I wasn't rested (which I plainly disclosed in the first
place) to be called for a start prior to 0230 the following day I
couldn't have shown up at 2100 the previous night. So, with much
frustration over my due cash I resubmit a small book even more plainly
disclosing the details. DECLINED! With the even more puzzling question:
were you assigned to the
job?............................................what......the......fuck!
So again I resubmit and again DELINED only this time because the claim
is now over 30 days old which was exactly what I expected. I have yet
to get my money. You see, this is common practice and it's rediculous!
I don't expect these cock suckers to give me anything, but do do expect
what I'm owed. I don't fucking need a co-worker to tell me their
payroll horor story, I have a timebook full of my own! Whatever
railroad you worked for 40 years ago it wasn't CSX and if acual
railroaders have been saying the same shit for 50 years maybe there's
something to it. How long did you work for the RR, and what railroad
was it? What qualifies you to make your assesment with any degree of
certainty?

Name: dumsh*t
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 June 2008

I keep hearing everyone complain about Spencer and McBride in
Philadelphia, but everyone seems to forget that the idiot Daly is the
one pulling the strings.  If anyone spent much time with one of the
isiot trainmasters when he is talking to Daly, you know that there is
not much that goes on without his fat ass knowing about it.  He sits in
his Ivory Tower ans sends his punk ass trainmasters to do his dirty
work.  Just so he can come down in the briefings and make a couple of
jokes and play the nice guy role.  Anyone else have any dealings with
this prick?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 June 2008

Goober do you really give good rim jobs?

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 June 2008

IN Quotes () are my  comments.

GOOFY

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2008

Alright goober, if what you say is true then tell me this: If payroll
is
impartial (They are NOT)  and by that i mean CSX has contracted them to
operate in
complete compliance with the set agreements to the best of their
ability (They will) how do you even begin to explain why they
constantly and
purposely reject perfectly ligitimate claims.(? Are they legit?) if
they were paid to be
accurate why would'nt they act accordingly?(They do) why would they
opperate on
the odds that if they keep jacking you around you'll give up (They do
not)  which
regardless of what you or anyone else says, is the way they do it  so
i guess we can assume that payroll habitually fucks us out of hundreds
(Your thinking not mine)
of dollars for nothing more than shits and giggles?(No one is laughing)
come on goober
surely you arn't foolish enough to think CSX is above providing cash
incintives to an independant contractor?(Maybe who knows) it all makes
perfect sense!(To Who?)
CSX contracts, or should i say, creates a payroll service to do it's
dirty work by fucking the employees out of millions a year.(Your
educated OPINION?) in return
for saving them that money they provide a percentage say 10%(How do you
know that? Just a guess?) of
whatever total they come up with  which for the sake of this post
we'll call it DENIED CLAIMS  in the form of a bonus,(How in the world
did denied claims turn into BONUS?) seeing how CSX
bees all boutz dem sum fuckin bonusz!(Unknown comment) CSX saves
millions, payroll makes (Really now, where did those numbers come from,
did you pull them from space or fact?)
millions, and the best best part is that CSX passes any accountability
(CSX maintains total accountability for every persons pay)
for any shady or illegal practices right on down to the payroll
service.(Really how do you know that, or are you just guessing?) theres
that "quality in motion" their always talking about.
theres obviously some form of incentive for payroll to act as they
do.(Do you know what that might be, or are you just thinking that you
know?)
maybe it wasn't like this 40 years ago, but it is now.(It was this way
when I worked there, and folks with 30 40 50 years service told me the
same stuff)(Our birthdays make us old, but they do not make us
stupid)(I can see your frustration, wanting answers, listening to
coworkers, and developing logical answers. However that does not
support your assumptions, make them correct, nor does it give you
recourse.)
GOOFY

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2008

Alright goober, if what you say is true then tell me this: If payroll is
impartial ( and by that i mean CSX has contracted them to operate in
complete compliance with the set agreements to the best of their
ability ) how do you even begin to explain why they constantly and
purposely reject perfectly ligitimate claims. if they were paid to be
accurate why would'nt they act accordingly? why would they opperate on
the odds that if they keep jacking you around you'll give up ( which
regardless of what you or anyone else says, is the way they do it ) so
i guess we can assume that payroll habitually fucks us out of hundreds
of dollars for nothing more than shits and giggles? come on goober
surely you arn't foolish enough to think CSX is above providing cash
incintives to an independant contractor? it all makes perfect sense!
CSX contracts, or should i say, creates a payroll service to do it's
dirty work by fucking the employees out of millions a year. in return
for saving them that money they provide a percentage say 10% of
whatever total they come up with ( which for the sake of this post
we'll call it DENIED CLAIMS ) in the form of a bonus, seeing how CSX
bees all boutz dem sum fuckin bonusz! CSX saves millions, payroll makes
millions, and the best best part is that CSX passes any accountability
for any shady or illegal practices right on down to the payroll
service. theres that "quality in motion" their always talking about.
theres obviously some form of incentive for payroll to act as they do.
maybe it wasn't like this 40 years ago, but it is now.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 June 2008

To C&O Joe

Bonus paid to payroll for declining claims? Bunk Hearsay at best, and
has never been true.
Code 97 may be true. You need to make sure that none have been paid,
some have been paid, and yours falls into the need to be paid column.

Second hand stuff from fellow employees is normally incorrect, and at
best questionable. you will learn this as life goes along.

GOOFY

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 June 2008

Webmaster comment:
You're showing your age, Goob; you've been away from the RR too long.
I
left in '99 and I've seen firsthand that the payroll dept. is a
profit
center for CSX.

OK OK I know my age, and have a comment or two.
Many large corp have a payroll service, those that -DO NOT- often pay
the price. That is why it is worth the money to hire those that are in
the business to do one thing, and do it well.

It may or may not be a Profit Center as you mention. That would depend
on a lot more discussion, however I can assure you that it is not self
sustaining, as a stand alone profit center would be described by many.
In layman terms it does not come at NO COST to CSX.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 June 2008

I had a claim denied.  I claimed Goober gave good blow jobs and he
denied it. Said he only gave rim jobs because the taste lingered
longer.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 June 2008

yes many claims are declined on a local level, but many are not.
Regardless of who pulls the trigger the end result is the same.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 June 2008

Goober is right, your claims are not denied for the company to profit. 
Each terminal is told to do it to keep budgets low.  In the long run
your trainmaster will profit with a big bonus, not the company.  The
bottom line is that they are taking money out of your childrens pocket
and giving it to there own child.  Alot of times that claim is denied
by your trainmaster as well...go figure.  A good catch is when payroll
tells you that your trainmaster denied your claim and he lies to you
saying that he knows nothing about it.  It isn't just payroll, they
are all a bunch of crooks.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 June 2008

Goober............ I havn't always agreed with everything you've said
but i've always apreciated that your position as a former employee
from way back when that got out and made a life doing something else
offered an unusual perspective on many of the issues. however, you are
way, way, way, way, waaaaaaaaaaay off on this one! here are some
interesting things you apparently arn't aware of. our payroll dept.
isn't part of the railroad it plainly says on our paychecks "CSX
PAYROLL SERVICES INC. AS AN AGENT FOR CSX TRANSPORTATION". Many of our
claim codes say for example code 97 are set to be declined automaticly.
when your contract plainly states you are entitled to a specific
monatary amount for specific services or occurances yet after those
conditions are fulfilled you are denied the contracted compensation for
reasons that don't even make sense (for example when you claim a code
75 for going outside assigned limits and payroll researches it for a
month then ask if your start time was the same? like what the fuck does
that have to do with anything? then when you resubmit it they tell you
claim is to old DECLINE!) then you have a perfect example of railroad
theivery. i was tol by an official that payroll gets a bonus based on
the percentage of claim revenue they fuck us out of. csx payroll
services inc could be a fortune 500 company al it's own. one time i
called payroll for something else and inquired about a 54 cent
deduction from a previous half and the guy said what if we gave
everyone 54 cents? payroll is a shady company with it's own shady
agenda and if you don't belive that you are far more foolish than i
ever would have thought.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 June 2008

Boilermaker man,
CSX makes money moving freight, The company makes no money from
stiffing any employee. If you think there is profit in shorting an
employee you are dead wrong.
Your pay check might come up short, based on what you think, and I
would think that is most of the time.
Real life is the cash you get, is more correct than your figgerring.
always been that way. And the company can prove their side. so go to
work have fun, and pay the UNION and Red Board Insurance to protect you
from ?????? I guess yourself.

GOOFY
Webmaster comment: You're showing your age, Goob; you've been away from the RR too long. I left in '99 and I've seen firsthand that the payroll dept. is a profit center for CSX.

Name: question ?
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 June 2008

with crew starts at an all time high, and people collecting productivity
getting fewer, wont the productivity payments get higher, and when will
the UTU give it away .

Name: Boilermaker
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 June 2008

Hey 03 Screen Man,

CSX takes money from people that they know won't fight for their
claim.  Payroll also knows which local chairman fight for their
members, and which ones don't.  Payroll usually doesn't fight claims
on members that have an agressive local chairman.  I hope you have such
a person representing you.  

I have a friend that works in payroll.  He said that they've been told
to deny certain claims.  Every pay period the claims that they deny
change.  He said that only one in 10 people care to fight the company
and get their money back.  Out of 100 people that the company takes
money from they may only pay 4 or 5 of them.  Lets say the company
shorts a thousand people a hundred and fifty dollars ($150,000.00) ,
and after several months of fighting the company they pay 10 people
($1,500.00). Heck the payroll department just saved the company
($148,500.00)  Not bad for 2 weeks work. 

My friend said that those with an * by their name is their code sign
that if you take money from that person, they will fight to get it
back. They leave the * people alone.  

03 Screen Man.  I know it isn't right but, with the way payroll is
run, we all need to fight for every penny, or we won't get an *, and
all of the money that we are due.   Yes it may take a while to get your
claim paid, but in the long run, its worth it.

Sorry

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 June 2008

Here's one that got overlooked and deserves the light of day.

I really wonder who the double tracking is for..."Gary Sease,
spokesman for CSX, said anytime there's an increase in flexibility,
trains can move more freely. But he said any notion the route is being
double tracked to benefit CSX should be directed to the DOT."

Pass the buck Gary...you see nothing, hear nothing and know nothing.

Yeah, that's your story and you're sticking with it! 


    
Cost of CSX rail deal jumps to $1.25 billion

LAKELAND, Fla. -- The cost of the stalled Orlando-area commuter rail
project and the state's deal with CSX isn't the widely disseminated
figure of $641 million. Nor is it the often reported cost of $615
million. 

It's actually both; $641 million and $615 million for a combined $1.25
billion in taxpayer dollars. 

That's a number most Floridians are unaware of. The $1.25 billion is
nearly double the figures cited during this year's contentious Florida
Legislature. 

State Sen. Paula Dockery, R-Lakeland, said the state Department of
Transportation is responsible for the confusion over the price of
commuter rail and improvements to freight rail lines. 

"At first, the document the DOT handed out had the $491 figure," she
said. "Then, come to find out, the overpasses went to $209 million
instead of $59 million, which brought the total to $641 million. Not
until we started asking questions and digging through documents did we
realize it may be more. But any figure over $641 million has never been
distributed by DOT in any sort of a widespread fashion." 

Dockery said the people of Florida and state legislators generally
"have no idea of how much this is really costing. And I'm still not
sure we do." 

The $1.2 billion cost has been confirmed by a spokesman for the state
Department of Transportation. 

Dockery, in a recent meeting with The Ledger, said she learned the plan
calls for the state to spend about $400 million to "double track" the
proposed commuter rail portion of CSX's A Line, which runs from DeLand
to Poinciana. Dockery has been a key organizer of the efforts to stop
commuter rail plans that would bring more freight trains through
Lakeland and would relieve CSX of liability for any accidents on the
commuter rail line. The CSX liability exemption was first disclosed by
The Ledger in January. 

State DOT spokesman Dick Kane, who confirmed the $1.25 billion figure,
said the cost of building a second track to parallel the A Line and to
make some train station improvements is $441 million. Of that money,
$235 million is in the department's current budget and will roll over
if not spent this fiscal year, he said. The rest of the money is
budgeted in a work program for the 2010-2011 fiscal year, he said. 

The 42 miles of double tracking would occur only if the commuter rail
project is passed by the Legislature, said Marianne Gurney, the DOT's
public liaison for the commuter rail project. The deal was approaching
approval by the Legislature earlier this month, but was shelved for the
session when a no-fault liability provision for CSX failed to pass. 

Nearly 20 miles of that 61-mile stretch of A-line is already double
tracked. 

Dockery calls the double tracking of the A-Line "corporate welfare for
CSX." She asks why a money-starved state that can't adequately fund
pressing needs should be funneling money to a profitable corporation. 

Gary Sease, spokesman for CSX, said anytime there's an increase in
flexibility, trains can move more freely. But he said any notion the
route is being.. double tracked to benefit CSX should be directed to
the DOT. 

The double tracking isn't for CSX, DOT's Kane said. 

"The double tracking goes into effect after we own the corridor" in
the purchase from CSX, Kane said. "This is being done to improve the
operation of commuter rail, to provide more reliable service." 

A 90-page contract between the DOT and CSX goes into great detail, but
does not mention double tracking the A Line. It mentions commuter
trains sharing the track with CSX, with CSX permitted to use the track
overnight, and during off-peak times for commuter rail. 

Dockery said no public hearings were held in the Legislature to approve
double tracking and its expense. 

But Gurney said double tracking has been mentioned on a DOT commuter
rail site, cfrail.com, since last year. 

"This has been fully disclosed," she said. 

State Rep. Dennis Ross, R-Lakeland, said the $1.2 billion sticker price
for CSX and 62 miles of commuter rail is hard to believe. 

"Can you imagine what we could do with that kind of money?" Ross
asked. "This is all tax dollars. We could have Amtrak do this from
Tampa to Daytona Beach, and have money left over for education, for
health care and building roads." 

The CSX and commuter rail projects are stalled, but could be revived
either in a special Legislative session or, more likely, in the 2009
legislative session. 

(The preceding article by Rick Rousos was published May 29, 2008, by
The Ledger.) 
 
May 30, 2008

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 June 2008

=====BR BOGGS=== was the trainmaster that was at collinwood at split
date , and was run out by a conductor, .. AKA=== JOE TUPA===

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 June 2008

They did the same with my code 75, Bastards probably got it confused
with 01

Name: 03 Screen Man
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 June 2008

Hey guys

Is payroll wacking people anywhere else right now? This week they went
back a month and took back all the Code 75's they paid me in May and
worte, "NOT QUALIFIED FOR POST 85".

HUH?

Then they went back and took some of my late lunch penalties too.
"Claim Invalid"

What gives?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 May 2008

Do I really think TCI/3G will make a difference? It's a crap shoot.
Their all politicians in their own way. Tell the people what they want
to hear which includes Mikey Ward and associates. I sent in the blue
proxy ballot for one reason to show discontent. The same way CSX treats
it's employees I could care less if any of those running this
corporation lose their jobs. The CSX antics have gone on for to many
years like constintly changing rules, termination instead of trying to
solve the problems, violating agreements, management that lacks
railroading skills the list can go on. Mine is a form of protest as is
others who have sent in the blue proxy. How much can you push your
employees before they break? I hope someone at CSX HQ reads this not
that they care. Certianly not Tony Ingram. If this was a well run
railroad your employees would be backing the present administration
100%. I can gaurentee that it's not happening. Worst that can happen
next year if TCI/3G nominations don't work out we can vote them out.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 May 2008

Why in the hell would the BLET back this current CSX Board of Directors,
unless they truely are "in bed" with the enemy? This is our chance in
a million to get rid of some of the biggest JERK OFFs I have ever been
around---namely YOU Tony Ingram, the best part of you ran down your
momma's leg!

Don't let this bull$hit union of ours tell you how to vote your
shares. We all better vote BLUE so we can make a stand against these
coward a$$ leaders we have in Jacksonville.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2008

*****************************ATTENTION*******************************

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO CAST YOUR PROXY VOTES ON THE BLUE CARDS YOU SHOULD
HAVE RECEIVED IN THE MAIL BY NOW. LETS SEND A STRONG MESSAGE TO WARD
AND THE BOARD WE WANT AND EXPECT CHANGE.......LETS GET RID OF INGRAM
AND BROWN JUST LIKE NS DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The TCI men have already responded to our letters and whole heartedly
agree with contract labor these two must and will go when and if their
nominees are appointed to the CSX Board of Dictators.



############################ VOTE BLUE ##############################

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ VOTE BLUE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ VOTE BLUE @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Name: castleton1
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 May 2008

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BELTPACK operated switch engines can be set to operate at 5 and 10 MPH.


Is there a BELTPACK setting for 15 MPH?

Thanks,

castleton1

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Name: B&O hogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 May 2008

Just heard about a run away train at Grafton West Virginia. A and O
railroad (ex CSX) came through the town of Grafton 40 mph.  They
evacuated D Tower and the yard office.

Name: A.Z.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2008

Dont Forget - VOTE the BLUE Proxy!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 May 2008

Hey Loco 30+

Yeah having all your eggs in one basket is never a good idea...unless
they are Faberge!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 May 2008

Thank's NoMo

I see CSX pushed everything back which isn't bad seeing I purchased
more shares after what I thought was the March deadline. Those shares
even though the price was high have turned out to make me money in a
time where the stockmarket sucks. I just have to sell those shares at
the right time I don't feel comfortable having 2/3 of my portfolio in
CSX stock or any stock for that matter.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2008

http://2008annualmeeting.csx.com:80/

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 May 2008

I've been asking the same question. Where is my CSX annual report?
Every year I've recieved one with a ballot, every year I've voted
this time nothing in the mail. I do believe the closing for the numbers
of shares you'ld be allowed was sometime in March, but the original
stockholders meeting would of been this week if it hadn't been changed
to June.

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 May 2008

i didnt receive one ...yet,  it sure would be great if miky and company
were removed and a kinder gentler ceo ws in office.

m

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2008

Hey HTL:

Looks to me like the TCI/3G proxy was mailed out on May 5th.

   http://strongercsx.com/shareholdersLetter050508.pdf

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2008

NoMo...I see you have filed a lawsuit in Alabama with CSX and the UTU
listed as defendants. What a worthless piece of shit you are.

Now the UTU members are gonna have to pay the cost for the UTU to
defend against your insanity.

If you don't mind me asking, and for all UTU members curiosity, what
is the basis for your lawsuit?

Also read a copy of the decision from the Neutral in your arbitration
case...What a idiot you were in not accpeting the carrier's offer to
RTS on a leniency...You really showed them.

Out of curiosity, what did you do prior to hiring on the railroad.

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 May 2008

hey nomo,
when is THE CHILDRENS FUND'S ballot going to be mailed out?

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 May 2008

Has anyone asked this our fearless union sucks this question- Does
article II mean that we might get stock options for our back pay?
Everyone should read article II! Contract give us little, dosent take
back much except for the cola raise, but Im concerned about the wording
in article II and also no cap on insurance, just says 15% of companines
cost,this feels like foreplay.

Name: be happy in your work
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 May 2008

Is that the same trainmaster that was giving the wide stance at the
truck stop a while ago ?????    just asking for toilet paper== hey
===========BOB !!!!====

Name: mad shiter@collonwood
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 May 2008

I found out who has been shiting on the floor at collinwood , i was
sitting in my car at collinwood and went in the back door , and saw
trainmaster======= BOB HINDS==== comming out of the Bathroom . he
walked past me very fast and left in his car . saying nothing , no one
else was in the building exept the Yardmaster . then i went into the
bathroom !!!!!!! shit all over the stall and boy it stunk bad !!!!. Bob
must have came from a corn hole game and lost !!!! and he has the Balls
to Blame us !!! shame on yo butt man , BOB HINDS !!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 May 2008

http://www.tailofthedragon.com/    been there done that..left some skin
on the road..

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 April 2008

Big C;

You may want to go out and burn a few holes in the sky, before you
tackle any Tail or Dragons.

HA HA Good to see that you are having FUN.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 April 2008

Big C

It's been a while since we heard from you. Hope everything is going
good? I had some friends who did the Tail of the Dragon they said it
was great. Give'em hell at the stockholders meeting. 

RRJim

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 April 2008

AB... stand for ALWAYS BORING

Name: Big C
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2008

Think I'll try and keep them honest. I will be having loads of fun
watching them squirm. Only old posters like RRJ and Goober know what my
drift is.

Doing The Tail of The Dragon in June. I never have done it, but heard
it's a blast.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2008

To Q and No name, and RRjim;

Thanks, you guys are the best, and I learn so much from YOU.
You have experience, intelligence, and above all the  knowledge of
everything. And you still do not get my reason for stopping here.

Listen up and I will whisper it to you.

I just keep you HONEST! I really do not care what you think, go back as
far as you want and make a sane comment on any of my statements, and we
can go from there. Comments such as you never were a Railroader, could
not stick with it, Etc are meaningless, and are simply a strike from
ignorance, with no substance, or any rationale, against a comment that
you do not feel comfortable with.

Goofy

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 April 2008

Pop's 

When you thought it couldn't get any worse. I'm begining to think the
3 stooges from the general committees that brought us this SSA were
definitely bought out. Bad part is it doesn't matter if we opt out of
the bonus program which is the only right we have we're stuck with the
work rules. The bid system has served me great working a yard job with
plenty of OT never thought I'd do that one the road has been my life
for 28 out of 31 years. Then again for others the bids are a headache
especially in my area where three former railroads (C&O, SCL, RF&P) are
bidding on the same yard jobs and the C&O which has the most equity is
being screwed. I'm like you I've found that loophole to bombard this
company with claims none which has been paid to date. I have no doubts
when Moates, Smith, and Finnamore go in to that labor relations
conferance 3/4 of the claims submitted under this SSA will be schidt
canned. I just keep saying 6 more years till retirement it's not that
long. 

Sonny

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 April 2008

ok the years moritorium for getting our claims paid is over...what is
the gen. chairmans excuse going to be now?

I lost a lot of perks in this last contract, with an agreement of rules
that the company and union would honor. so far neither seem to have any
intent of enforcing these agreements,if i could get 12 of the many
paid,it would pay my union dues for the year......

Name: Balin'Wire
E-mail: rathercuttimber@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2008

Not saying it's right mind you, but CSX is a money making company, and
they are going to do whatever it takes to make money.  Shouldn't we
hold our union responsible for letting them violate our agreement any
way they want too? Isn't our agreement technically a legally binding
contract?  So in essence: if CSX violates the contract, they are
breaking the law right?  It's the union's place to keep them in
check.  Personally, I want to take it back to the old days where when a
man threatened your livelyhood, you waited until you got off the
grounds, walked out from behind a dark corner in front of him, and
showed him why being a snake and a weed beating snitch doesn't pay as
well as they think...........but that's just me.

Name: q
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2008

Goober.  Why don't you check out yardlimits.com.  They will love to
argue with you over there.  Then you will have to sites to embarrass
your hillbilly ass on.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2008

Goober never has fit in on this site.  He is too pro company, just the
opposite of what this site is about.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 April 2008

Goober

You really need to get some help. We don't care if you once worked for
the railroad you didn't stay so that doesn't make you a railroader.
Have you ever posted one nice thing on here that was beneficial? Your
getting just like Pines. I sure hope when I retire and that day isn't
far off I don't end up a sarcastic bitter old man that after a
lifetime out here I can be productive instead of destructive like you.


RRJim

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 April 2008

OH MAN DO WE HAVE A SHARP TACK HERE? Buy into this program and you are
guaranteed a job at any C store that you want. Now let me eat away at
this stupid post, just for fun.

Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2008

Boy, I thought we had it BAD!!! I'm an Engineer with NS and it sucks
(the company not the job) almost as bad. We're harassed just as much
as those of you with CSX and some of my fellow brothers have been
fired
while on CSX territory!

_____________CSX can't fire a NS employee, just report them!

 Don't feel alone, since the BLE turned down the
proposed contract, we've had it just as rough! It all started with
our
bonuses(contracted 10% WE GOT 5%!!!)

-----------That is why it is called a BONUS dick weed, the contract
does not say 10% every year and you know that!

 more Saturation checks, i.e., more
of them in the bushes, more denied claims(even rules class)and of
course cutbacks!

-------------How many checks before and how many after? I know that you
do not know, as you are blowing smoke. Same for denied claims and all of
the rest.

 We too have to check the motel sheets in the Indian
motels and ride in shuttle vans that have drivers who seem to have no
Drivers Licenses!

----------------Always need to check the room, however how do you know
that the drivers do not have a license? Ask them and if they do not,
you do not have to ride

 For a year, it was "ok"(the year we gave away
Ingram) and we thought it might get a little better when Goode left,
but in steps Ole Wick, and DOWNHILL we went again!!!! Oh, his bonus
was
5% too, 5% of 14 Million is pretty darn good if you ask me,

----------------Really I thought 5% was less than the CONTRACT as you
stated. As far as what he makes, it should not be any of your business.
Apply for his job and see how far that goes!


 and get
this, up he goes again with a 21% increase. I guess roaming around the
country and telling the stockholders(hey wait I'm one too and he
hasn't visited me) everrything is looking good equates to a pay
raise!

--------------Yep pay up those dues and get you a CONTRACT like his and
sail along.


Ten years I've been in this circus and don't get me wrong, it has
afforded me the opportunity to provide some great things for my
family,
but I should have moved to the CN!

--------------Age old Move now! same as it was then---No Thanks!???


 The pre 85 guys get a lot more than
the post 85 guys, and there's a LOT mor of us than there are of them!
Maybe we should have something written in for 05 guys!

-----------Yes keep on paying up until the stage comes in with the
GOLD

 
You guys ave my sympathy, keep the faith, and for goodness sake, KEEP
YOUR WHAMMY PAID!!!!!!!!

-------------Absolutely keep that job insurance paid up, heck pay in
advance. HA HA what a joke.

GOOFY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2008

Boy, I thought we had it BAD!!! I'm an Engineer with NS and it sucks
(the company not the job) almost as bad. We're harassed just as much
as those of you with CSX and some of my fellow brothers have been fired
while on CSX territory! Don't feel alone, since the BLE turned down the
proposed contract, we've had it just as rough! It all started with our
bonuses(contracted 10% WE GOT 5%!!!) more Saturation checks, i.e., more
of them in the bushes, more denided claims(even rules class)and of
course cutbacks! We too have to check the motel sheets in the Indian
motels and ride in shuttle vans that have drivers who seem to have no
Drivers Licenses! For a year, it was "ok"(the year we gave away
Ingram) and we thought it might get a little better when Goode left,
but in steps Ole Wick, and DOWNHILL we went again!!!! Oh, his bonus was
5% too, 5% of 14 Million is pretty darn good if you ask me, and get
this, up he goes again with a 21% increase. I guess roaming around the
country and telling the stockholders(hey wait I'm one too and he
hasn't visited me) everrything is looking good equates to a pay raise!
Ten years I've been in this circus and don't get me wrong, it has
afforded me the opportunity to provide some great things for my family,
but I should have moved to the CN! The pre 85 guys get a lot more than
the post 85 guys, and there's a LOT mor of us than there are of them!
Maybe we should have something written in for 05 guys! 
You guys ave my sympathy, keep the faith, and for goodness sake, KEEP
YOUR WHAMMY PAID!!!!!!!!

Name: Jim S
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 April 2008

come on guys!!!!

remember why you took the job if you are not happy then leave
life is way to short to hate what you do ,,,,,I love my job and all
that csx ahs done for me!

they hired me when no one else was hiring they kept me on when i was
real sick. when my wife died they gave me time to be with her! 

i am tired of going in to the depot and hearing "oh CSX SUCKS" 

GROW UP  life will have its down points that is a giveing but remember
life is what you make of it .....if you want to piss and moan then yes
live and your job will suck 

just go to work be happy and if your haveing a bad day just keep
smileing if you cant do that then get a job where you are happy

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 April 2008

So....... How does everyone feel about the UTU contract, good/bad?

Name: susan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 April 2008

Goofy-Goober, I still don't quite understand your position here, but I
do respect your opinion as to what some of our problems out here are. I
don't think I even skimmed the surface on them. I'm sorry about the
spelling,grammer,and punctuation in my posts. I guess I really need to
use spell check...

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 April 2008

Name: susan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 April 2008

Goober-Goofy, Thanks for your responce to my inquiries,You came from a
long line of rail-roaders-I respect that-You were a railroader for
seven years-I again respect that,

What you don't seem to understand
is,the rail-road that your family and your-self worked for are no
longer the same as you knew them,

Susan---- I am well aware of this, and never assumed that today is the
same as 1963

The majority of my fellow posters
have a hard time understanding why a class one rail-road like the C S
X
can't or won't take the time and money to invest in repair, training
,and the basic care of their employees(decent lodging).I could go on
and on about  our companys problems as WE see them. I married into a
family with a long history of rail-roading-My husband  hired on the
Monon in 1969 and worked for them for 35 years. We have went thru all
the mergers and changes that has ended with our currant company and
managers,We have also seen a lot of changes with the way employees are
trained( no longer are their 5 or more man crews with years to learn
and get promoted),The company thinks 5 weeks training in a class-room
and a few months on the job is suficient. The way legit claims are
denied, The rat hole motels that we are to call home when on
lay-overs,
the union reps that take the easy way out and lay over on the companys
side more often than not, and contracts that no-one votes for but
still
get forced upon us. We as employees want to do our job-get our rightly
earned pay-have at least a clean bed on lay-overs and a little respect
for doing a very difficult job that most people couldn't do.We want
to
be proud of the job we're doing but it's hard when the company
isn't
proud of us.

Susan------You have the same, age old complaints, that have been around
for years. Surprised that you did not mention the filthy locomotives
that guess who continues to destroy. I feel sure that it is not you,
however there are many that just find it fun to leave their filth
everywhere. Not any different than a filthy taxi.

I don't understand why you call yourself an Old-Head when
you only worked 7 years out here. In my mind an old head is some-one
who
has WORKED a very long time OUT HERE and the title is one of respect
they deserve. An old-head is more than JUST OLD. You need realise the
rail-road you knew over thirty years ago is a LOT different than the
one I currantly work for.

Susan------I have never referred to my self as an Old Head. I do not
need a lecture on that topic, as I am well aware of what it is and what
it means.

PS I ran spell check, and did not touch any of your post just moved a
few lines down to obtain space to respond.

GOOFY

Name: susan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 April 2008

Goober-Goofy, Thanks for your responce to my inquiries,You came from a
long line of rail-roaders-I respect that-You were a railroader for
seven years-I again respect that,What you don't seem to understand
is,the rail-road that your family and your-self worked for are no
longer the same as yo