NO!!! You CAN'T have a day off!     The railroad practically invented the term 'on-call'. Many CSX employees do not have schedules, but are forced into working a 'list'. Most lists are on call 6 days a week, 24 hours a day, and often the employee cannot even choose their day off. It is common to be called to work during an assigned day off.     Unscheduled days off are usually not granted for family or religious obligations. There are many CSX employees who have been unable to attend their childrens' birthday parties, their wedding anniversaries, and even funerals because they were not allowed time off.     We've even heard of people who had to call out sick, to attend their own wedding! We're sure that some of these stories that can top even that one...

Webmaster's note: Since I go through the server logs regularly, I just thought I'd take this opportunity to point out that all of the comments in defense of the company seem to come from Jacksonville, while complaints come from everywhere that the company does business. You do the math.

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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 September 2010

Good one RRJ.  Why would I respect you? Tell me.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 05 September 2010 Thank's boy. Your making my point that you'll never amount to anything. No respect. I know it's your daddy's fault he left your momma when you were young or your momma breast fed you till you were 5 years old making you confused feeling abandoned when she cut you off. Whatever it was it definitely made you one screwed up individual.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 September 2010 I figured you wouldn't....Can you please tell us one of your What is was like in your day stories RRJ...please or how about one about how things never change. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssseeeeeee.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 September 2010 You're one strange idiot. I'm not going anywhere.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 September 2010 RRJ out..........(sigh).......(pause)......(chuckle)...........(cheering).........

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 September 2010 No, never been a mover or shaker just a railroader. A fact you'll never understand. Like you wrote "Goodbye and Good Luck". Thank's I appreciate it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 September 2010 Goodbye and good luck in your your retirement RRJ...You were always a mover and a shaker--thank you for the positive changes and insight you have brought to this union.... an by all means stop by the meetings so we can hear about what is was like in your day--because we care. P.S. Your homework is late.......tsk tsk

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 September 2010 Cond 1-10 Thank's. I like those quotes they make perfect sense when you put them all together. To bad you don't get it. You prefer to sit around licking your cajones feeling sorry for yourself. What jobs are you talking about? CSX wants to move more freight with less people. OK. That's their job. CSX is hiring in most crafts. Locations depend on CSX's needs. Only thing you have to worry about is if you have a job. Which according to you furloughs haven't had any affect on you. Is it you can't handle the railroad lifestyle? You want every weekend off plus every holiday ect...that'll never happen. You people have more time off then we ever did when we hired out and you still complain. You have gaurenteed extra boards but that doesn't satisfy you. When we were on extra boards it was feast or famine we never complained we took the good with the bad knowing the only way up was thru seniority when people retired. You made a choice to work out here you can make a choice to quit just as easily in fact it's easier than when you got hired just fill out resignation papers they can be printed on the computers at work. You're a whiner. Before I retired with over 30 years I still couldn't hold an engineers yard job with weekends off in fact couldn't even hold first trick so I settled for second trick. Did I complain? Hell no, I took whatever was available for my seniority. I did hold weekend rest days on the road but that was only every two weeks. So after 30 years of road service I needed a break so I excersised my rights in the yard. I loved working for the railroad that doesn't mean I liked CSX. I didn't. It's all a game and to survive one must learn how to play it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 September 2010 FOR EVERYBODY...just some quotes from our good union brother RRJ in the last week. The force is strong with him--so to speak so let's listen to his wisdom from this week..and be sure to look for common themes of hope and prosperity for all rairoaders young and old "They're good at double talk they've always been good at it nothing has changed." "Nothing has changed when I hired out no one told me a darn thing about how it works on claims or how to file one ect..." "Why is it 10 years ago we had standing room only at meetings and today you barely get enough to hold a meeting." "Once my generation is gone there will be more changes all downhill." Keep paying into railroad retirement it keeps me happy. "If you have a wife be kind to her buy a riding lawn mower it beats the push kind" "I waited for over 25 years for the unions to grow a set of balls. " "Sick out? It'll never happen" "The unions could strike then but they won't."

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 September 2010 Wow Nomo.. that's all you can come up with...You have the wrong guy--never been Oregon (hear its nice though)...never been a foamer (but I don't mind them) but you have proven your inability to believe in change. I am not going anywhere. You are the one who should shut your mouth and go home...Truth hurts NOMO RRJ.. Im done explaining thing to you.. because you only know what you have seen and fail to look at the big picture. I could type a book to you going into detail about why a person with 15 years seniority WILL lose their job in 5 to 8 years or be force to move to the new footprint . I will give you a homework assignment though...because you have nothing else to do...Explain to me why you think everyone with nine years seniority is an engineer and why there seniority will protect them from the national organizational shift CSX is making to move more freight with less people for less money for more profit from coast to coast.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 September 2010 NoMo I don't know if it's the foamer. It might be. Cond 1-10 references to oldheads is those running the UTU in Cleveland. He has a point to some degree. They're good at double talk they've always been good at it nothing has changed. I haven't a clue what jobs he's trying to save unless he's hung up on the "engineer only" crew shack rumors. Right now there just rumors which doesn't mean it couldn't happen. We never thought remotes could ever happen even though they were being used in Canada for over a decade before coming down to us. If as he states he has 9 years out here I don't see his fears. Then again after 9 years why is he still a conductor? Could it be he passed on engine service let a younger person take his place? I know a few who did it their happy with their decision in fact they have good seniority as a conductor. OR, is he the foamer. The UP opened the door in 2006 to the possability of engineer only freight trains. The UTU with the support of the BLET & BMWE shot it down with a lawsuit. That doesn't mean it's over or maybe it does. It still doesn't mean someone has to become paranoid. But he never goes in to detail just rants on an on leaving no room for discussion.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 02 September 2010 man, I am so glad to be out of this hell hole!!! Everyone is looking out for number one!!! I was there for 4 years and read between the lines!!!! I saw my furlough coming but needed the benefits!!! So I beat them to the punch and went out disability (with benefits) and received a job JUST before the benefits went out. The sad part, the union official was more pissed at me than the damn company officials!! I wonder why that is?? Could it be because I gave (and most on here still do) over $100.00 a month to a bunch of low life fags who were in the companies left hand pocket who only know how to say "they can do that, they can do that, they can do that. But hey, thanks for your charity to the waterhead (aka, UTU & BLE) union. We appreciate you WAISTING your money!!" The funny part is just that, I CAN LAUGH IN YOUR FACES!!!!!LLLLLLLLLMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO But hey, I love the UTU news letters I still get. Keep them coming, they make wonderful fire starters for winter!!!!!LMAO The federal gov't is the way to go people!!!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 September 2010 This guy is the same dickweed that talked about having a father, grandfather and uncle that worked for the RR about a year ago. He's nothing more than a foamer...anyone that hangs around the BP plant in Oregon, OH to watch trains is a loser. RRJ engaged him...didn't take long to figure him out. This chump maybe 15 and drops by this site every few months and talks as if he know something. He posts under many names...Conductor 646 comes to mind...scroll back and enjoy his ignorance. He loves unions and Democrats. What an piker... You're busted again...go home, shut up and play with your chums. maybe you can be the pivot man!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 September 2010 NoMo Man you are blind... You wrote "After 35 years of experience in the work place, I can only tell you that CSX is no different than 95% of other public companies" You are soooo wrong I can't even begin to think about where to start.. but I am assuming you believe this because the railroad is the only place you have worked (besides maybe a paper route) and what you read and see on tv about layoffs at big corporations...(most of those people liked their jobs and the company they worked for) so I guess your ignorance is not entirely your fault. Large public organizations strive to be on things like the Forbes "100 best places to work list" because they know that a happy employees creates an environment like no other that will eventually drive profits. Do you think CSX strives to be on this list? or any list? Organization are creating family friendly work environments that allow there employees to reach there potential personally and professionally. CSX is NOT like other companies. You are mistaken. My beef is not with the younger generation...It is with older that is currently in charge and doing nothing to move this union forward. I have not been furloughed but fear with that in 5 years with 14 years on the property I will be...The current older generation will bring about the demise of the utu for conductors within ten years --guaranteed. Is it to late for the younger generation I fear because they have been brainwashed by people like you telling them ..it can't be done? At this point --maybe it can't--but your not helping the situation by encouraging that type of attitude. Your missing the point this isn't about annual furloughs and whining about safety. Its about saving a craft and ensuring it future. You old fucks won't change your minds or the way you think be you "know better" Well--why don't you take what little fight you have left and encourage a younger genration to stand up and instead of encouraging the complaceny you have succomb to.. I really don't know what side of the fence you stand on Nomo. You seem intelligent, but you should pick a side because your balls must be aching from sitting on it............

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 September 2010 Hey Lloyd: I haven't given up...the UTU and CSX both need major overhauls. Am I wrong about complaining...only time will tell. Nothing changes because of complaining. I complain all the time to my wife, nothing changes and if it does, it only gets worse! My wife, like CSX or the UTU could care less...she has her own problems and doesn't mind telling me about them (most of them have to do with my constant complaining...but that's neither here or there). Change only occurs when it becomes obvious to the complainee that it's in their best interest to change. CSX and the UTU have not reached that conclusion yet. It doesn't help that the contract employees are so splintered. The thought has occurred to me that Ward, Brown and Sanborn are so far removed from the line that they have no idea just how bad it is. Have you ever seen the show "Undercover Boss" that airs on CBS? Perhaps they should be nominated as the next "Boss". A couple of weeks in the trenches as anonymous grunts and they will be packing entirely new attitudes. Things would change in a hurry. You think they're man or woman enough for the challenge? The only thing complaining does is make the complainer feel better. The old adage about talk being cheap and it's actions that count still holds true, in other words don't tell someone you're going to kick their ass...just do it; odds are it'll hurt a lot less. A strike would certainly get their attention...for an hour or two before it quashed. It would serve no real purpose except pissing them off more than they already are and guess who will pay...the contract employees. Like I said before, the contract employees have to change which will cause the UTU to change. When that happens CSX may be convinced that change is in their best interest!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 September 2010 Hey Con 1-10: I frankly don't care if you're content or not...it doesn't affect me in the least. I've been gone for almost 5 years now so anything that happens on CSX or the UTU is of no consequence. I'm guessing you're new to the RR, less than two years and based on your comments, less the 25. When you hired on, your experience was very limited and there was star dust in your eyes. Now your tears have washed it out you have a clear view of reality, or do you? You're on the inside looking out and are too close to the problems to have an unbiased view. Wait until your on the outside looking in. The view is much different and you can see exactly how bad it really is. RRJ will tell you the same thing, as will any other recently retired. If you have time to sit around and ponder your predicament, you're leaving far too much money on the table. After 35 years of experience in the work place, I can only tell you that CSX is no different than 95% of other public companies. If you want to be treated like a member of the family, find a mom and pop operation. Of course don't expect the same level of pay or benefits but maybe mom and pop will know your name. I may be old but with age comes wisdom and I can assure that I'm far better educated than you'll ever be..so shut up and listen. You have these big plans to change the union and the RR. Exactly, how do you plan on accomplishing you stated goal? Yes the union and RR need a serious overhaul, no argument there. However, in order to accomplish that, the unions, CSX and the contract employees all must want to change. As it stand now, some contract employees wish things were different. Until the UTU membership stands united with a singularity of purpose, nothing will change...the UTU won't and CSX certainly won't, even though it's in both their best interest too. Your beef isn't with RRJ, myself or any of the "old heads"; It's with the new hires and those with less than 10 years service. They're the ones with the numbers and power to make change happen. In the meantime you are just pounding your head against a brick wall. Even if the membership came together it would take years and years to effect the sweeping changes needed to bring the unions and carriers into the 22nd century. The EAP is there to assist employees and help find professionals in mental health, substance abuse, family and marriage issues. After just a few years you're beyond being frustrated, you're bitter; just imagine what it'll be like in another 2 or three years. Although I don't think you'll last much longer without some help. Everything you have posted on this site as been posted several times before. In another 6 weeks or so furlough, I mean, bash the "old head" season will be back and we can rehash that for the umpteenth time. You and everyone of your contemporaries have been through several furlough cycles...do you really thing any one of them will lose any sleep about a new hire being furloughed?. It's too bad anyone gets furloughed but it's a fact of life. As long as you can stay marked up you won't give it a second thought. So much for a singularity of purpose!

Name: Freddie Krueger E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 September 2010 So, if I show up to work ill because of this attendance policy and get hurt, I guess I can check off the box on the injury report that the company has provided an unsafe work environment.

Name: Freddie Krueger E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 September 2010 Flu season is coming. With the new attendance policy, I am wondering how many will be going to work sick, and am interested to see the increase in injuries and wrecks because of it.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 02 September 2010 J H My BLET division took the inititive about 6 years ago to not allow the LC to be on the safety committee or any railroad sponsored program. He could attend he didn't get paid by CSX or the division. During elections we added a slot to our voting ballots for the safety committee. People are nominated for the postion and the members vote for the person to represent them. That ends all conflict. The BLET isn't in the CSX Safety Program. They dropped out around 1995. They created their own the BLET SENSE program around 2003. It's only good if people utilize it which they don't. Good one about the riding lawn mower. They thought I was joking.

Name: J H E-mail: Fitzgerald GA Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 01 September 2010 in one or two post lately it was said that buy your wife a riding lawnmower. well guess what I AM NOW RETIRED THREE YEARS AGO BUT BACK YEARS AGO WHEN we were working 16hrs a day and deadhead didnot count on your hrs and serivce I WAS GONE ALL THE TIME AND MY WIFE DID KEEP THE GRASS CUT. WELL ON HER BIRTHDAY i ask her what she wanted and beleive me she said just get me a riding lawnmower for I AM TIRED OF THIS OLD PUSH MOWER. by the way she got her birthday gift. I JUST THROUGHT THIS WAS WORTH SHARING. the men working today has it a lot better but they also have to put upwith a lot of bull shit that I DIDNOT.nothing is going to get better untill the engineers and the conductors join up together and become one union and this may be a while yet for you have too many union officers getting big pay checks and real big expence accounts for doing very little except working against each other. you are really just one group now for the engineers is from the conductors roster.Csx likes it this way for they can use one against the other so join together. I THINK THE SAFETY PROGRAM IS A GOOD THING BUT YOU ALL SHOULD GET OUT UNTILL THE R.R. BEGIN TO SEE EVERYONE IS OUT TO WORK NOT GET HURT. you will likely not ever see a strike where as I saw about five in my career.THIS IS JUST ONE WAY YOU CAN FIGHT BACK GET THESE FEW ASS KISSERS WHO IS ON THE CSX PAYROLL AND THIS INCLUDES YOUR LOCAL CHAIRMAN OFF CSX PAYROLL FOR DOING NOTHING AND GETTING TIME OFF.IN my last few years woRking I GOT TO HATING THE R.R. AND THE UTU FOR LETTING EVERYONE DOWN.oh by the way enjoy the r.r. safety cookout eat that burger for tomorrow that same trainmaster will be out hid to run you off not to help you show this rr that they cannot buy you with a cookout get together everyone stay away let the ass kissers get paid for nothing which that is what they do anyway.YOU MUST PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE UNION AND THE RR.attend your union meetings in the mean time see for yourself what is going on for you have just a certain few running everything that just affects them.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 September 2010 Lloyd Whatever happened to people asking questions? Union meetings would be a good start. Nothing has changed when I hired out no one told me a darn thing about how it works on claims or how to file one ect...it was a learning process. If someone wants to stay ignorant that is their right. When I joined the UTU in 1977 I was at the next meeting to listen and learn. I didn't sit around waiting for them to come knocking on my door. It would of been a long wait. It's called taking the inititive. CSX has hired some military that doesn't mean anything out here. I got hired on the C&O because of my DD-214. It only gave me an edge over others to get hired. It didn't give me special statis on the railroad. It did give me the discipline to handle any situation.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 September 2010 Point well taken I don't count anymore because I retired. I'll always be a member of the BLET. I was an officer in the BLE & BLET from the mid'80s till retirement. If I choose to go to a union meeting once or twice a year that's my right. Most likely after last months meeting there's no need seems people have given up. Why is it 10 years ago we had standing room only at meetings and today you barely get enough to hold a meeting. People think their entitled because they pay dues. They leave it all up to a local chairmen who unfortunately is overloaded and a working LC that has to support a family. Union meetings is where change starts not on this frigging site. This site is just a bitch session.

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 01 September 2010 Hey Con 1-10, don't be so harsh on Nomo, he is usually on here to bash the company any way he can and although I think he has given up, I think he still has a lot of fight left and a lot of anger towards this company. RRJ is another story. RRJ thinks the entire new generation is a "ME" generation and although some of the younger guys out here may have that attitude, most come from the military and just about all the ones I have met are pretty good people. I've been posting on here for over a couple of years now and I think the fight between the unions and the company is really going to get nasty here soon. Everyone you talk to is sick and tired of the way this company treats people and when you ask people if they like how CSX operates the answer is NO 100 percent of the time. People are either ready to quit, strike, or people try and take advantage of the system and screw others. I think Nomo is wrong when he says that complaining about these things wont go anywhere because eventually something will happen. These new company policies are literally breaking people down and the new FRA regs really didn't make anything better for us. I've told RRJ before that more people read this site than he thinks and that includes trainmasters, people from Jacksonville, and many T & E employees who are just afraid to speak their mind on here. These posts dont always fall on deaf ears. One of the biggest problems I find out here is the people who do have union positions don't inform the guys who work out here well enough. From claims to new policies, it seems everything gets shoved down our throats whether we like it or not. I find it kind of funny that I'm in a union who can basically only "try" and save my ass if I am fired or a union who just accepts things for what they are and takes about as long as a slug would to take action. I also believe there are many out here who have just accepted things for what they are and are content with the railroad way of life because thats all they know. I've said it before and I'll say it again, it really is time to talk about a strike. Whether it will last long or we will get anything out of it is beyond me but it sends a message that people are tired of their shit. Besides, what do most of us have to lose? They are going to try and get rid of all of us anyway as soon as PTC is implemented. Sure will be fun running a train down the road all alone.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 01 September 2010 RRJ Your assessment wasn't really that accurate considering you can't even spell accurate..

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 01 September 2010 You guys are seriously a sad bunch (nomo and RRJ)....sad sad sad sad. Telling me to be content and wait until your generation is gone and then things will get worse because we arent protected. Why would I do that??? YOU ARE AS DUMB AS THE DAY IS LONG! You two are the ones with deaf ears.. You have given up and RRJ is retired so he doesn't even count--his opinion has no value--he's done and good riddance. (yet he still goes to unions meeting and is on this site hahahahaha super pathetic I mean really man....what's your fuckin deal RRJ?) Ill keep working to pay into retirement to keep you and your ex-wives and there new husbands happy. I guess I should sit back and watch because CSX is the same as any other company..right? You two are out of YOUR MINDS. EAP--are your serious nomo?? don't spew your bullshit at me ...your the one who may need to get a grip here..I work safe. I actually can not stand you complacent sorry fucking losers whoas meet atitude. Why do you even post on here? To tell everyone that you know everthing and it's been tried before and it didnt work.. Let me tell you something you aren't very smart (RRJ for sure). You haven't done anything and you offer no input with value to help the situation--People like you two fools are part of the problem. A BIG PART.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 September 2010 My assessment was accurite you can't handle being a man. Insults is that all you can know. I've never read one of you except maybe Lloyd discuss any legitimate grievences. I respect him even though he's a little delusional thinking any of you cry babies are going to follow his lead. It's all cry-baby crap with you people about how CSX is so mean to ya'll. QUIT, it's that easy. No ones holding a gun to your head. This isn't the military where you're obligated. You think I've never done anything that's your perogative. Your sadily mistaken. I've walked on picket lines in 4 strikes against this railroad. How many have you been on? I went to the last months union meeting what a pathetic bunch of losers. Not one person saying anything. Who is really taking it up the arse as you like to put it? My generation stood their ground it wasn't till we became the minority out here that things took a turn for the worse. Once my generation is gone there will be more changes all downhill. Every trainmen hired before 1994 is considered a protected employee. CSX didn't hire very many people between 1983-1994 so that day is coming sooner than you think. You better get a move on if you think you can do anything. All talk no action that's you.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 September 2010 Hey Con 1-10: Tell every body what's wrong with the system...they already know so it will be falling on deaf ears. CSX doesn't care and neither does the UTU. Until there is some unity within the UTU and between the UTU and BLTe, you'll be fighting City Hall. Many are frustrated now and it will continue to get worse, to the point of being bitter. When that happens they become a liability, not to CSX but to themselves, their coworkers, family and friends. To those truly fed up, it's time to move to greener pastures...money isn't everything and piece of mind is priceless. Perhaps some professional help or group therapy might be an option for those on the edge. Discussing the problem with others similarly situated might prove more productive than venting on this site. The EAP for their area can help. If any one thinks that CSX is any worse than most other companies, they would be sadly mistaken...why do you think the pays good? It's not because of the work you do...it's to put up with the bull shit you have to endure. Be content...worrying about things you have no control over will surely drive you over the edge. Concentrate on things that you can control. Change comes from within and takes time. Start at the your Local and spread out from there and perhaps a few like minded individuals from other Locals will do the same!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 01 September 2010 Why should i be content? If being a man means being content and taking it in the ass like you have all these years then no thanks...i'd prefer to stand up tell people what wrong with our current environment and offer up ways to change it and improve our situation.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 September 2010 Sorry you feel that way. That's the reason you'll never be content. I can assure you retirement is keeping me busy. Your attitude will be your undoing. The "WHY" generation. You were spoon fed now it's time to be a man and you haven't a clue on how to go about it. I speak the truth and don't really care who I offend. Keep paying into railroad retirement it keeps me happy.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 01 September 2010 If you have a wife be kind to her buy a riding lawn mower it beats the push kind. ----This is why your an idiot RRJ and why you never fought for anything better and probably why you have divorced several times and now this board is all you have in your retirement.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 September 2010 P'O'd The things your stating aren't new they've affected every generation of railroaders. It might of been a better place to work years ago but the job hasn't changed. You're on call you're gone no clue when you'll return. You make good money. Some people live above their means. I know quite a few who have been successful on the railroad with only 5-10 years out here. They own homes nice cars toys like boats and ATV's ect...life is what you make it. If you have a wife be kind to her buy a riding lawn mower it beats the push kind. You people complain about working to much apparently you were never hungry enough by being furloughed enough to appreciate what you have. I was there I knew what it felt like to be furlough in one year to not be able to draw unemployment the next furlough. No one would hire you even to work at a gas station because they knew you were furloughed from the railroad you would leave as soon as you got the recall. People complain on here but not to discuss the issues only to vent. Using obsenities can be done without posting it. People state this site is about CSX but 90% of the time that never happens issues are ignored. Railroading is a way of life it's not a normal job.

Name: Chris Leabetter E-mail: cleabetter@gmail.com Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 August 2010 "IF YOU ARE NOT DESPERATE FOR A JOB AND HAVE EDUCATION, DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND TRY TO GET A JOB ELSEWHERE. FEDERAL EMPLOYMENT IS THE WAY TO GO. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I SHOULD HAVE QUIT CSX MY SECOND DAY ON THE JOB, BUT I STUCK IT OUT FOR TEN WEEKS UNTIL I COULDN'T TAKE THEIR BULLSHIT ANYMORE. UNSAFE, UNFAIR, RATS AND SCABS............" God Bless the mans heart who said this!!!!!! I am so glad the railroad is a distant memory!!! I have been out for 3 years and working for the Fed Gov't ever since. Seeing my family more and getting treated well by my management, I feel like a human again. I felt like I did something bad and was assigned to community service, except I received pay for it while I was in the RR.

Name: P'O'd E-mail: pullitout8@yahoo.com Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 31 August 2010 Hey nameless, faceless coward, why don't you grow a pair? How long have you worked for this company? You have no idea.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 31 August 2010 P'0'ed. Son take the 12 year's of RRR and go. I know you are scared to death. Get a set and leave, not to worry your RRR will roll over. Never cost you one cent. Now if ya get Your attitude right and stay, and pay. You could have a happy day in about 20 years. Or leave and let those that really want the lifestyle work. I have seen it over and over (I have to much invested and there is no way to leave). I had Conductors, and Engineers tell me that. Checked it out and they were simply telling me what they knew from those that told them. I had Engineers ask me not to leave my Trade, for fear that I would be hungry as they had been. Just take a look right and left, that is you in 20-30. Your choice.

Name: Tank E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 29 August 2010 hey friend of CSX....i thought you said you were never coming back to this board.

Name: p"o'd E-mail: pullitout8@yahoo.com Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 29 August 2010 To the useless twaddle that called us pathetic: Listen up asshole, you have no idea of what you speak. I'll gladly send you my work schedule for the last 4 weeks, and you see what you think. I leave my home, am gone from 30-40 hours, get back home for 12 hours, then start again. We're paid, but not the kind of money that I can live, raise my kids, then pay to have everything done that they don't give me time to do. They can't tell you when you're going to work at the away terminal, so you really don't know when you should lay down. This company sucks ass. And I would tell anyone asking to seriously have their freakin' head examined for considering it. I've invested 12 years in rr retirement, and can't just walk away in the current economy. This company is poorly managed, before Buffet bought BNSF and sold his other holdings, he had big money in 3 out of 4 the big US railroads. Want to guess which one he stayed away from? Duh. Not every investor is stupid.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 27 August 2010 Tank Conductor for 1-10. Good advice below. Road trip== sit down, shut up, handle the radio. Yard job == Engineer does the Above. I can assure you that this works.

Name: Tank E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 26 August 2010 wow...the person a couple of post ago told all of us to get a life. Kinda hard to have one working for CSX.....and not just the working part...fighting for claims, investigations, calling them out on agreement violations and working with sub par equipment. Sure friend of CSX employee, we will jump right on that.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 August 2010 Last poster: Is the same true if we don't like our politicians? We just leave our country? Hell no! We all fight together and make it better for the next generation....That's if you feel a cause is not worth fighting for. Where would America be without fighters?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A Posted: 25 August 2010 I think everyone on here is pathetic. If you have an issue with CSX and it's that bad then just leave!! It seems to me that most of you want to receive a paycheck and not be held accountable for doing your job!! Also, if you have an issue with someone....talk to them about it!! Don't bitch on some website. GROW SOME BALLS!!! No need to respond....I will not be on here ever again. This was my first and last time. GET A LIFE!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 22 August 2010 Lloyd The RRB this year in their annual report to congress stated their solvent till 2039. RRB had restructured years ago by investing. 2039 doesn't mean that it'll collapse congress only requires numbers up to at least 25 years. We had the same concerns in the '80s & '90s when we saw downsizing in all departments. RRB retirement age under Raygun was raised from 60 to 62 for over 20 years 3 years ago it was lowered back down to 60. It could become a possibility of raising it in the future again especially when the goverment is thinking about raising the age for social security. I don't get the link between the two this year social security didn't get a COLA increase in january that was also imposed on railroad retirement. Social security was never meant to be used as a retirement only a supplemental income unlike ours which is a retirement consisting of two parts Tier I which is the equivelent of SS and Tier II which is our pension. So far we've been lucky to have not been raided by goverment borrowing which SS wasn't that fortunate under Raygun. Plus SS has more oppertunities for abuse in their system compared to RRB. In RRB we don't see people going out on a disabilty at age 30 like those abusing the system with SSI.

Name: LLoyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 August 2010 RRJ, my long time debater on this site, I get what you are saying but don't you think what I'm trying to achieve is twice as good as 80 percent of the other people out here who just sit on their hands and take shit for what it is? I might only be reaching out to 15 or 20 people, but that's okay with me. I gotta vent somewhere and this place is just as good as any. I will say this though, more people than you think read this site. Most don't have the balls to post on here though out of fear. And then there are those who couldn't spell a word or create a sentence right to save their lives. Also, I wanted to ask you a serious question un-related to this. With all the cutting CSX has done and all Class 1 railroads have done over the past 20 years, wont there be some kind of short fall in the retirement system? Of course this wont affect you, but what about guys like me who still have 10+ years to go? They keep talking about pushing the retirment age to 58 or 55, but it looks like it might be pushed back to 63 or 65 if you ask me.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 August 2010 Lloyd Discouraging? For telling the truth. It's better than your fantasy world of sick outs. Pessamistic I can go along with that assumpsion. I waited for over 25 years for the unions to grow a set of balls. They were neutured back when Raygun fired the air traffic controllers and never grew another set. Who do you think your reaching on this site? Maybe 15-20 people. Deinitely not the masses. I never once heard about any of the sick outs you were calling for over the past couple of years in any crew room when I was working. So, Am I really causing descent? I think not. Run for office become LC of your division/local see if you can make change. I've seen more than my fair share of LC's over the years go in head strong only to become disillusioned.

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 August 2010 RRJ please, for the sake of the rest of the guys who are out here dealing with the shit right now, try not to be so damn discouraging. That's the same attitude so many out here have and that's why nothing happens. Stop being so pessimistic and realize that this is a different railroad than when you worked. I hear people all the time talk about how this use to be a great place to work and now it's all gone to hell. RRJ you may have played the game in your day but it's a whole new ball game now. Everyone out here is on the verge of snapping you should know that. I'm done talking about shareholders and stock dividends. I'm ready to talk about what we need to do to fix this shitty situation we are dealing with right now. I don't give a damn if this company did call back all the furloughed men, they still work skeleton crews. People need time to spend with their families and if working 60 hours a week isn't good enough they can go to HELL!! RRJ a sick out or a strike is coming, believe it man. This time they went too far and pretty soon they are going to pay for it, one way or another.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 August 2010 Lloyd Sick out? It'll never happen. The unions did the only thing they could do. Other than displacement it's not a contractual issue. I do believe it could become a safety issue. The unions could strike then but they won't. They haven't utilized safety strikes in 14 years. The unions are still under the impression that supporting political candidates will make change. That has definitely not been successful. You complain about CSX or any railroad making profits. If they weren't no one would of been recalled from furloughs. People have written it's all about the stockholders. Let me inform you that CSX stock dividends are only 22 cents a share. That's not much. Investors are banking that the price per share will increase. Not that their dividends will secure a retirement income because it won't.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 August 2010 Goob The BLET has the "Scope Rule" which protects the engineer outside yard limits concerning remotes. It's no different than what the UTU did with the remotes in the yard. The UTU threw a temper tantrum over it but just like the yard remotes they don't have a right to interfer in another unions business which is what the ruling came down to when the BLET protested. It was tit for tat.

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 20 August 2010 Hey Loco 10-20 or whoever you might be... You are on the right track. There needs to be a system wide slow down and it needs to happen now. The fact that this company thinks we should only have 1 absence a month without any off days for men who work freight pools is absolutely in-humane. Who the hell do they think they are? A few bad apples out here who never want to work and we all get punished for it? These company policies have hit an all time low and although our union is "fighting" it, we all have to suffer until they come up with something? For those of us who do have families or people who don't need to work 13 days a half to pay their bills, this is ridiculous. How about the fact that they start our rest days over after letting us rot in the hotels for over 24 hours? Where is the justice there FRA? I've seen this company call people at 001 on purpose so they wont be able to go on rest days. They have completely cut their man-power to the bare-minimum, cutting back our time that we can lay-off, and this company has the audacity to brag about PROFIT!! If now isn't the time to strike on these assholes there wont ever be a time. It has just about hit rock bottom out here and everyone needs to step up and do what is right. We need to lay off from Birmingham to Cincinnati. From Selkirk to Russell. We need guys from Louisville and we need them in Clifton Forge. We need Nashville to get involved and those of us in the Carolina's to step up. From Jacksonville to Columbus we need to make a statement and it needs to come NOW guys. If you are reading this right now I know in your heart you are just as fed up as I am and you know something has to change or else we aren't gonna have a leg to stand on soon. It's time for us to make some noise and if you are with me let's pick a date in September or October and we will stand together. I'm not on here trying to be a leader and I don't care for any recognition, I'm just saying what so many want to say but wont. We might make good money and maybe we should be happy to have jobs (in this shitty economy), but this is no way to live, and it's time to make a stand and that time is now. If our damn union can't move fast enough, it's time for us to do it on our own. We need to make a date and lay off for at least 36 hours after the fact. If anyone else has any ideas, feel free to let me know.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 August 2010 Hey Goober: Flagmen, Firemen...the vast majority of of people on the RR today don't know what they did. Just about all claims filed today are worthless...CSX doesn't pay them so why waste time filing them? Because that's the way the game is played. You're right, it's the foreman's/conductor's responsibility to tie up the ticket. I never filed claims to be a nice guy, just the opposite...but someone has to hold the carrier and union's feet to the fire. Anytime CSX or the unions get tired of dealing with the worthless claims they can renegotiate the contract and buy out the penalty claims for a few dollars a day. They won't for the same reason we'll never see a flat rate tax in this country...it would cost too many jobs. In the meantime the only thing the grunts can do is play the game. I wouldn't feel too bad though...most of the newer guys probably don't take time to file the claims because they never read the contract or attend the local's meetings!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 August 2010 Locomotive Engineer 1-10 19 Aug 2010. You have it somewhat right. Engineer only is a RR target. That will make Engine service the (number one worst job in america). Now for the UTU throwing all of the job's away, heck the RR could not run trains without an operator. That is why the engineer has survived, Now as far as the remotes, the Engineers should have said yes we will run them, However they said no. So the UTU said yes and time goes on. If the Engineers had said yes to the remotes, many would have moved to the ground, many would have been hurt or failed, and many would have loved the chance to be on the ground with the box. That would have pushed the UTU Trainmen to the street. The RR's run just like WalMart, staff for the business, abide by the rules? and make money. As a RR employee you have very few options, as do all employees. Make the best and retire, or fight the system and walk the street. Now how the BLET saved the remote for engineer's on the road, I am waiting to see how that is gonna work. Guess RRJ is going to explain that one.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 August 2010 NOMO, Outside the yard limits, and had to file, and filing for the crew was not what I was talking about. I was addressing those that think by filing a worthless claim that they are helping themselves. Filling the box with claim's, that might be a little outside the box is very easy to do. I know things have changed, however when I was a Fireman, I never filled out any time the Engineer did it for me. When I was a conductor I did the crew time for both the Brakeman, and the flagman, they did not report at all. My point is as a Foreman requesting payment for the crew for work outside the yard limits is a duty, and not something that you did as a nice guy.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 August 2010 It really comes as no surprise, the UTU has always given in to the carrier. They have LC's holding company positions in some places, they sold out the engineers with remote control just to let it bite them in the ass while remotes have gone to one man jobs. In the long run you will see one man trains as the conductor get eliminated, and only then will the UTU have wished they'd taken more action as a real union. I'm gonna keep saying it, we need a system wide slow down....NOW!

Name: ble rules utu drools E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 19 August 2010 Looks like the UTU backs down and sells us out once again. Posted on Tuesday, August 17 UTU General Chairpersons John Lesniewski, John Hancock, Jim Townsend, Johnny Willis and Randy Pullen, along with Vice General Chairperson Yvonne Hayes and UTU Vice President John Previsich, met late Monday, August 16, 2010, with Senior CSXT Officers to air out differences with respect to recent modifications unilaterally made by CSX to the availability standards in their Simplified Availability Policy pursuant to System Notice No. 108 dated July 30, 2010. It was the second meeting of this type for several of the General Chairpersons, but this meeting was arranged by UTU International President Mike Futhey and the outcome this time was much more productive, if not fruitful. For over an hour the General Chairpersons debated the unreasonable rigidity of the new availability standards with CSXT VP & Chief Transportation Officer C. M. Sanborn, VP Labor Relations S. E. Crable, VP Network Operations M. D. Smith, AVP Crew Management T. J. Flanley, AVP Labor Relations D. W. Ingoldsby and Director Labor Relations M. Becker. Armed in many cases with stories and situations presented by their membership, the General Chairpersons argued that a literal interpretation of the newly published standards penalizes their hard working employees, our members, through its generic and what appears to be inflexible terminology. As such, the General Chairpersons argued, it denies an employee their contractual right to “reasonable layoff privileges” and, on some properties, also their contractual entitlement to hold their displacement for a specified period of time. For their part CSXT acknowledged that it is, and never was, their intent to penalize the 95% of their employees who protect the service consistently; and they fully intend to abide by our contractual agreements regarding “reasonable layoff privileges” and displacement time (where applicable). At the same time, however, they remain steadfast in their intolerance towards those that characteristically choose to make their employment with CSXT less than full time; and they have a genuine desire that their treatment of such employees will be consistent. In the end, while the Carrier stopped short of revoking their revised standards, they did recognize that the rigidity of the language within the standards requires further clarification to express their intent. The published standards provide that opportunity wherein they state that: “Employees who are unavailable for any non-compensated reason (other than rest days and time off mandated by the Hours of Service Act, as amended by the Rail Safety Improvement Act) on 2 or more days in a rolling 4-week period will be subject to review.” The Carrier’s application of that review process, as opposed to mandating discipline, will ultimately determine whether the Carrier is allowing the “reasonable layoff privileges” stipulated in our Agreements or not. However the ambiguity of this term leaves far too much room for discretionary abuse. Consequently, in an effort to avoid unwarranted discipline and the arbitration of individual cases leaving a trail of innocent blood as a legacy of the unintended application of their policy, CSXT committed on Monday to working with the UTU General Chairpersons to formulate Q&A’s regarding their intended application of this discretionary review. It is hopeful these Q&A’s will reflect the Carrier’s verbally expressed intention to allow reasonable layoff privileges over and above the harsh language of their published policy revisions, as well comply with applicable displacement rules, by describing various situations/conditions and how they will be handled under the review process. While the devil is in the details, the General Chairpersons are hopeful that the finished Q&A’s will bring sanity to what was published as an unreasonably rigid availability policy. We will soon find out. If not, the Q&A’s will at least clearly solidify where our differences lie for an arbitrator to later determine whether the Carrier is being “reasonable” in the application of their Availability Policy or not; and whether they are attempted to supersede agreement rules with Company policy. If anyone has situations they would like to be considered as a question within the Q&A’s, they are hereby instructed to forward them to their General Chairperson’s office as soon as possible for consideration.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 August 2010 Hey Goober: If I was a Foreman on a yard job and we went outside the yard limits and I had to file a 01 claim for a member of the crew, I'd file for everyone. Besides it took time to file them and it was usually on OT. When I started I might have seen 10 cents on the dollar of claims paid...when I left it was closer to 65 cents on the dollar and the lady in payroll and the man in CMC were very cordial. The penalty claims were never about money. If I got shorted CSX would pay, usually in OT for the whole crew. These young guys need to learn how to work a job...until they do the Trainmasters, payroll and CMC will play them like a drum!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 August 2010 Tank The only income I banked on was for the days I worked. If for some chance I got a claim paid it was a bonus. My last two years I had at least $1800 worth of claims every two weeks all of them good claims under the BLET SSA all of them denied. I never expected CSX to pay them so every two weeks another envelope was in the LC's box for the claims to be handled. If you hear the truth your defense is I must be part of the problem because I didn't do anything. What was there to do? Go steal a case of crew packs or schidty bottled water? I use to see people do that all the time. I guess that was their little revenge. It's just a game. I've had TM's gaurentee payment of claims only to have JAX deny them. I couldn't refuse to do the extra work outside the scope of my job classification that would of been insubordination. CSX isn't paying the majority of claims your not alone in that department. One day maybe I'll get a pay stub in the mail with what NoMo stated a claims settlement of 30 cents on the dollar. I'm not banking on it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 August 2010 Nice website haven't been on here for awhile, now where are the ble-sucks, and the utu-sucks companion sites...They all follow suit...Earnings going down, all claims denied, no air on engins(real safe), some caps set at zero but new attendance policy, management is clueless, Union dues on the rise for these great agreements we are voteing in(yeah right). This company is now in the business of bonus, not railroading. And on and on, I could go on for days, but think of this.. without the railroad and those of us who do our jobs, there is no bonus...take care of what takes care of you. Jackasses.... Unions need to respect their members, and management needs to grow a pair and learn to think for themselves. We need thinkers not "yes"men. I am supposed to be led by example, but I only know how to railroad, and dont understand how a 2 year degree in nothing realative to my job can lead me, I'm not intrested in your degrees, we are not splitting atoms here. Stupid litte yellow switch tags, and stickmen..all will get your job, but what do you get for passing their little test? No praise, no thanks, nothing positive, you just get to keep your job...woo-hooo, Sorry for the ramble, and please excuse any of my phonetically challenged words, and grammer. I just needed to vent...have a CSX ethnical day.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 August 2010 NOMO, File as many claims as you can is just stupid. Many do that and are quickly known as just that. File those that you feel have merit, and only those--- Reason (Credibility) When ya lose that they will throw your stuff to the can. Not like they will not do it anyway, however with good reporting ya stand a better chance. Filling the bin is just stupid.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 August 2010 Hey Tank: CSX has been declining penalty claims long before you ever thought about working for CSX. RRJ is right...it's a game. You file a claim and CSX denies it, then you give it to the LC for handling and during a claims conference he gets 30 cents on the dollar. Everyone looks good except you're still pissed. Here's a hint...file as many claims as you can, whether or not you're entitled to them. 01 is a good claim, engine not equipped, interchange claims etc. etc. Remember, that it cost CSX money to process each claim, whether there are legitimate or not. If you had $400 of claims declined you can probably find twice that you're entitled too and all those pre '85 claims you aren't. It all about numbers...file...file...file!

Name: Tank E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 August 2010 RRJ, yes i complain about denied claims because i pay my union dues and want my damn money. Claim are in place for a reason and just last half i was denied $400 in claims. I dont know about you but $400 is alot of money to me so your fucking right i am going to bitch. These dick heads need to stop CSX from taking my well deserved money. Also you are correct, i complain and also say this is a good job. It is a good job but would be a great job if our union would not allow CSX to deny our claims. I cant take whatever is thrown at me but i will be damned if i sit back and not say or do anything about it. If that is you attitude "the attitude of, well that is how things are", then you are one of the reason why CSX walks over over our agreement, because guys like you take it up the ass from the company and ask for more.

Name: conductors girl E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 August 2010 so what can we do to change the bullSHlT that is going on right now?? These attendance policies need to change.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 August 2010 hAy thIss iz fouR al yoU peeopple who post oN CSSX SUkS., DU evverbody a favor and LERN TOO SPEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 August 2010 Tank Denying claims is part of the game. They deny it you forward it to the LC so they can handle it. Darn, I never got mad over denied claims that's the way it is. If you can't handle the game get off the field. CSX banks on 85% of all denied claims to be trashed instead of forwarded for further handling. Sounds like CSX is winning. The LC is right CSX can do it and they do it very well. You cry about how bad it is then contradict yourself on how much money you make plus the benefits all without having an education. That doesn't make sense. No one should stay in a job they don't like. If they feel the union is not working for their best interest. If they feel management is constantly harrassing the employees. A person needs to adapt to survive. Good luck.

Name: TANK E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 August 2010 HEY HOG, Go fuck yourself....i have been here more than a fucking year you dick. Assholes like you is what brings down moral more than it already is. Tell me of a better job out there where you dont have to have a college degree, they give you a set schedule, retirement is good, and the pay is more than we make here. Would love to know. Or were you pissed because i said the utu and BLE need to grow some nuts and do what we pay this assholes to do? Maybe if we cut some of the union suits salaries we would get something done. All i here from my union douche bags is everytime i get a claim denied is "well they can do that". If i am gonna pay that amount of money i pay a month, make CSX stick to the agreement. They will stick to 100% rules compliance but not 100% union agreement compliance. Talk about double standards.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 August 2010 LE 10-20 I forgot to answer your last question. You didn't put a #3 slot on your list. I don't work for CSX anymore I'm retired. I have no regrets working for the railroad took the good with the bad. I never complained about being furloughed in the '70s that's the way it worked. If people didn't like it they quit and moved on to something else. That happened alot. The railroads not for everyone never has been never will be.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 August 2010 LE 10-20 You're so full of schidt flies have created a statue in your honor. If you're that stupid to not know how the system works by now you'll remain ignorant your entire carreer. People running up on jobs isn't going to do anything but it give the unions a reason to request more XB slots. The union doesn't control the XB they gave that up for you people to draw a gaurentee. Just ask your LC bitch to him about adding more jobs instead of sniveling on this site. It not rocket science. You want frigging jobs created help get rid of the gaurentees then the boards can be loaded up back to the days of feast or famine like it was when I started on the railroad. No your to much of a pansy to do it. You want that cushion. God forbid if anyone has to struggle out here anymore. Welcome to the real world there are no gaurentees and kudos to those that help themselves to make it in this life.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 August 2010 Just what the company wants more guys like RRJ stepping up and helping out when the boards are depleated. If it was'nt for guys like you, maybe some of our furloughed brothers would be recalled back to service. I've only been out here for 17 years, and I could count the number of times CMC incresed the boards due to guys stepping up on one hand. Spin it and twist it RRJ, people step up for two reasons, 1, they are greedy and they don't care about anyone but themselves, 2, they're a company suckass. Which are you?

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 August 2010 LE 10-20 Why are you worried about what someone else does? Running up has been going on forever. I never cared it meant that CMC wasn't going to try and call me for the job. Or worse trying to force someone on the job. Having people run up when the extra boards are exhausted is the only way the union can request getting more XB jobs put on. CSX controls the numbers that was the price for the gaurentees. If I was first out on a freight pool and was called to run up on a yard job that would be a no brainer work it claim the difference and get more time at home.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 August 2010 Hey Conductorsgirl: If you're still paying attention...here's what I'm talking about... http://www.roadtechs.com/const/wwwboard/getpost.php?rec_nbr=136807 Great location...

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 August 2010 Speaking of low-life sucks, the BLE Engineer's at my terminal always work jobs off their assignment. They will make moves to a Freight Pool or Yard job then work everything but what they are supposed to work.

Name: Mostly E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 August 2010 to: who cares Yeah; what rr are you working for? I'm willing to bet you're a no good company suck. We have a lot of men and women laid off. Our sub. works at least once a day if not two. When a rr has had enough he or she should be able to lay off. NO QUESTIONS ASKED AND NO SMART REMARKS.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 August 2010 Yeah, people do die it's a fact of life. I can gaurentee that most railroaders live long happy lives after retirement. Every 3 months I attend a C&O railroad retiree lunch where 35-50 retirees show up and their all doing fine. Some of them have been retired for 25+ years. There is some truth that certian people don't make it past 6 months into retirement but it's a small percentage. Went to a co-workers funeral a few months ago that unfortunately didn't make it past the 6 months mark. He was one hell of a railroader even worked two years past retirement age with 42 years on the railroad his hips were giving him problems other than that he'd still be working. He died at the hospital of an aneurysm after hip replacement surgery. No gaurentees in life. But railroaders dying right after retirement is an old wives tale.

Name: conductorsgirl E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 August 2010 I can't tell you how much this pulls at my heart. So many of the people working out there are doing it for the "good retirement" CSX offers. Maybe they offer such a good retirement because they know whats going to happen to their men and women. What can be done about this??? ANything?? And what was the article that was posted two down?

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 August 2010 Hey Friend; I've known two...the first was an engineer with 42 years of service, who retired on his 60th birthday. He always took care of himself. He never smoked, ate a good diet and walked every day. He died during his daily walk within a day or two of receiving his first retirement check from the RRB. The second, a groundhog retired the day his 30 years of service was completed. He smoked like a chimney, ate better than most. I think during his early years he ran in the fast lane though. Shorty after his retirement he relocated to Flagstaff, AZ and died alone before he could move in. Certainly in road service their diet and lack of exercise adversely effects their health. What I really thinks gets them in the end is they no longer need structure in their life and have a hard time coping with life outside the railroad. Look at what happened to Bear Bryant, he passed within months of retiring. Don't be surprised if it happens to Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno. Sleep or not, old habits die hard...

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 August 2010 A major carrier quietly dismantled their lay-off policy after the engineer fell asleep at the wheel-which caused a few fatalities and several COSTLY injuries. The report stated is not verbatim for obvious reasons: Exhibit "A"-presented: Forced to stay marked-up due to the unreliable/unpredictable work schedule. I was exhausted and knew I could not mark-off due to the company policy of threat and intimidation of implied discipline up-to and including termination. Being exhausted; I was completely distracted for the task at hand and left with my only alternative of "self-preservation" to maintain employment...in-spite of the public safety.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 August 2010 yeah i have heard that railroaders die after retirement. It makes me sick. No wonder wives get retirement too. "Here we will pay you XX amount of dollars because you own your husbands soul for 40 years and then he dies once we give it back" NOT WORTH IT. I have no interest in finding another man, but my man has got to find an alternative. Any hope in getting him something that has some kind of schedule? So he can atleast sleep a normal amount at night

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 August 2010 To who cares: What are you talking about saying that men lay on an extra board 2 to 3 days, get 1st out & layoff? Right now our extra boards have been exhausted everyday, and short handed because the railroad is too cheap to hire more people to fill jobs! What is the railroad supposed to do? I don't know what part of the railroad you've been working?

Name: mostly E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 14 August 2010 70 to 80yrs of life, get real most rrers die after they retire. If I could leave I'd be out of here. This attendance policy is a joke but like all things on the rr we take it and our union tells us they dont approve but THEY CAN DO THAT if I had a nickel for everytime LC said THEY CAN DO THAT I could leave this forsaken place. Lady find yourself a different man if you want a family or have him to get a different job

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 August 2010 what i meant to say is he gets 10/14 vaca days, but ends up having to take more than that to get the few days before off to make sure he won't get called. Isn't there another way for them to do this?

Name: Conductors Girl E-mail: Cincygallovesyou@gmail.com Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 August 2010 Hi. I am a fiance of a conductor. We are trying to figure out of this job is worth the crap he and I go through. I wanted to get your opinions. From what I understand, our division of CSX has pretty much taken off all of the assigned jobs, and on top of that, they created an attendance policy that says you can't be unavailble for more than one day in a month period. Holy crap!! Is that humane? I understand that if you have 5 starts in a 5 day period or something, you get a day or two off, but he never reaches that because he gets stuck sitting in a filty bedbug ridden hotel room and it starts that over. We NEVER know when he is going to be off, so we are losing chances to plan fun things with each other and with friends, he has absolutly NO sleeping schedule, so he comes home and is a complete zombie, sleeps for 8 hours or so and wakes up and gets lunch packed, called a few hours later and hes gone again. We are planning a wedding next year, and I can't help but wonder if this is really what life should be like. He gets the 10 or 14 or whatever vacation days Sure we like the money (I work full time also at a 8-5 job)and we like the retirement, but this schedule just seems completely inhumane. He never has time to just be at home enjoying the house he is working his @ss off to pay for, he never has a weekend to rest, and never really has a full day off. I understand that many people are saying that this is the price to pay for the benefits of CSX, but are you really living your life the way you are and enjoying it? We only have 70/80 years on this earth and railroaders spend 40 years of it living to work. Shouldn't you be working to live? You just don't get the time to live. I just think that its going to be nearly impossible to have kids because if I am working, there will be no schedule to offer a daycare as to when "dad" can watch the kids. And will "dad" ever be at any of his games? And will "dad" ever have time to just hang out or will be always be "resting" to get called back out? At this rate, we won't even have time or energy to make any babies!! ANYWAY- I just wonder how you all deal with this, and how your wives deal with it. i understand there are plenty of men in this world that work seven days a week, but adding the fact that you are working 12 hour shifts, then sleeping in a dirty hotel for 12 hours and working 12 hours again, you never get to spend time at home. Some men have ladies in both cities and that probably makes it easier on them, but this just is not human at all. There are so many health risks to working exhausted and never sleeping at the same time. What do you guys think?? help...

Name: who cares E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 August 2010 to all the railroad brothers and sisters out there.csx sux but can you really blame them for trying to weed out the useless?when you have employees laying on extra boards for days at a time then when they get first or second out they move or layoff,whats the company supposed to do they pay us for our time not our hard work because we dont do any.i say fire the deadbeats and give the railroad back to the working men and women.we have brought all this on ourselves,true the union sux also if and when the kickbacks and bribes stop we might actually get some representation untill then suck it up work your job and hope for the best . its better than serving hamburgers at mcdonalds or being a door greeter at walmart!!besides all that nobody makes you show up every trip.we all bitch about it but you dont see anyone quitting,kinda ironic huh?that being said i hope one of these days we can have a decent job and get along with csx we all need the money and benefits or we would not be here.so quit your crying and do it or get out you make everyones job miserable to work !!!!!!have a nice csx day you bunch of crybabies

Name: Should I or Not E-mail: todatrash@gmail.com Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 12 August 2010 Nomo/ Anybody I have read several of your post now and respect your opinion, unlike many greenhorns, i'm smart enough to ask and listen. As many said "this isn't my father's railroad." Worked at U.P.S both as labor and management; they have more in common with CSX then you might think. So I know how the "game" works as far as general Labor and Company. You are right and I still have reserves but that is because of the new boards and/or attendance policies. The fact you can't mark off on the extra board is bunk, even if it is guaranteed pay. 24/7 on call...fine with that, I just want to mix sure I have some time off somewhere. Yea I know I will get laid off and I look forward to it. I've learned to budget so not a problem. I don't mind busting my rear end during the feast, I just want it to slow down then to chill out. Its not having that chill our period, whenever it is, that make me nervous. thoughts?

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 August 2010 Hey Should I: Having had several generations precede you that retired from rail service you should be aware of the ins and outs. I would agree that RR career is potentially very good but very challenging. If you are young or married and have children it can become very challenging. You will be on call 24/7/365 with no set schedule unless you're in yard service. You mention an education, you didn't mention what your degree was in. In train, engine or yard service regardless of education your income will be limited, you can still make a very nice living however. You will be qualified to move into management at sometime should you want too. One thing I haven't seen mentioned and perhaps you already know; is there is a 95% chance of you being furloughed for 3-6 months and maybe even longer for your first year or two. The fact that you would ask for advice would indicate, to me anyway, that you have some trepidation about you decision. In the final analysis, the decision is solely yours; make the decision and live with it. This might be the only chance you ever get to work for the RR, if you don't like it you're free to find something else...at least you are not having to pay 8 or 10 thousand dollars to get the opportunity to work for CSX like thousands had to!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 12 August 2010 It's a good job with benefits. It's can be a difficult one with time away from home, on-call 24/7, the affect on family life ect...In the end if you do your job mind your own business a person can have a quiet life out here.

Name: hog E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 August 2010 less than a year you need to shut the f up you dont know dick about this place yet

Name: rd E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 August 2010 You're right other jobs wont let you lay off. Other jobs have off days and some sort of schedule. So lets not compare the rr to other jobs its apples and oranges. Hell no dont take a job out here. If I didn't have excellent sen. I'd leave this place sucks.

Name: Tank E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 August 2010 Should I or Should you not, I too have a college education and to be honest you wont find hardly anything better out there. We are just pissed because our Union guys need to grow some nuts and stick up for us. As far as attendance goes, anywhere else you work outside the railroad wouldn't even allow you take off sick unless you had a personal day or vacation and also not many places even offer personal days anymore. This is a good place to work compared to what is out there right now, but just beware of working around management that is just here to find way to fire you.

Name: Should I or Not E-mail: todatrash@gmail.com Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 August 2010 Ok just got my offer letter and Redi in Sept; Father 35 yrs +, gramps 40 yrs +; great gramps 19 yrs legs were cut off by a car, am I making a mistake by joining, not desprate for job and have education. Let me know

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 August 2010 It seems to me that you rails have lost the will to fight--in spite of lousy union officers. TE&Y employees are the guts of any railroad. You all seem to have been brainwashed that the trains can somehow be operated without you. Think about it! Can that happen? You are cured; you are no longer brainwashed and the railroads cannot PRODUCE REVENUE without you. 100 percent rule compliance has always and always will be the back-breaker of the railroads. If you think your union officers are corrupt or involved in phantom safety programs; FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR. it works!

Name: dan E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 August 2010 Guys I talked to that red headed s.o.b at a meeting today. You know the meeting where we sell out to the company and they act like they care. Well anyway get a dr. excuse and they might take that into consideration before they fire you. make the short of it we are stuck with this new policy

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 August 2010 The way I see Railroading in the future. 1. Train's will have a crew cab locomotive,or a crew car. 2. Crew's will be 12 on and 12 off, the same as a river boat. 3. Territory will be the same as a river boat,Captain. 4. Crew's will fly in or ride in for relief after 30 days. 5. Crew's will go home and relax for a paid month. 6. One call a month, Go to work or get off and go home. Railroads will not like this, too many broken trains, well guess the RR need to insure the on board teck is correct. If it is? an Engineer can run a train anywhere. Conductor can simply pull up the yard, and know exactly where to go. I know this sounds stupid, but think a little and with the correct info it can work. 30 days on and 30 off who cares where it is. You get a ride or a flight home every 30 days. That is more time at HOME than any RR has ever had.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 August 2010 I am being told that all the GC's came together & sent the carrier an objection letter towards this new policy. In other words, they just told the carrier that they didn't agree with this new policy and thats all our monthly dues are worth. Don't put any trust towards your union leaders in charge, employees will have to do it themselves. I've said it before....a day everyone calls in sick, a system wide slow down, or an old fashion strike, those are your choices. They are all better choices than asking your union leaders for help, lazy good for nothings!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for N/A Posted: 11 August 2010 Somebody pointed out the large number of unemployed middle aged men, and correctly realized that makes the RR quite willing to push its employees around - since this is the best game in town. It is CSX or Taco Bell.HOWEVER, 2 things have happened in the last 10 years. 1. The RR PAYS - TAX FREE - ALL YOUR 4 YEAR COLLEGE TUITION, and most masters where you just pay the tax on tuition, and B. There are MANY legitimate degree and degree completion programs available ON LINE as well as local.Most everybody can afford a computer and high speed internet DSL or cable or wireless card, and the vast majority of people I see at work have SOME college, or military credit, or SOMETHING that gives them part of a degree. The RR pays the rest. The RR offers this primarily for HQ people who eat it up, but it is FOR EVERYONE. Only a few minor exceptions - folks Deep into IDAP discipline should check first, theology and music degrees usually don't count, phony no work paper degrees from Central America don't get paid. SHOP AROUND and there is lots there. MANY other businesses I know about are paying TONS of $$$ because so many employees (your future competitors)see a real deal, and the employers make them sign a promise to STAY extra time if company pays tuition. You do have to sit at computer NOT playing Farmville, or drinking at the titty bar.I don't want to sound "old skool", but DRIVING to a stupid course on 15 winter nights, fighting for parking and standing in registration lines, and PAYING FULL PRICE from your net take home paycheck makes a tax free paid on line course sound like a great deal. Also, many community colleges offer skill programs in person only, I assume. They officially lead to a degree, and so are paid, but if you acquire a SKILL and then don't finish degree the RR has already paid. You are in the RR hole, but CSX will BUY you a shovel to dig out! You have to be the digger, though. If enough people did this the RR would have to treat people fairly for fear of attrition loss.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 August 2010 Hey RRJ: It may be but why then would Ingram and or Ward allow it to go on when they knew they would have to eventually accept the blame? Have you ever heard of Brown Round? That's the brown ring around an asshole. I'm thinking Brown is an asshole in his own rite, and think, he's only 50 so there will be another 12 or 15 years of him!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 August 2010 NoMo I'm thinking David Brown was behind these policy changes all along. He came over to CSX from the NS shortly after Tony Ingram. Ingram was the HNIC David Brown was his subordinate it only makes sense Ingram would designate him the responsibility to affect policy. It's a thought.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 August 2010 Hey RRJ: I thought Brown might create his own legacy; however it looks like he'll live up to his "Brown Banana". The real loser here beside the employees is Ward...instead of being remembered fondly and being respected by his men when he retires; he'll go with the knowledge that no one will miss him and everyone will gladly help him clear out his office!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 August 2010 NoMo I did learn at last weeks union meeting this David Brown is worse than Ingram. Doesn't look like things will get better anytime soon.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 August 2010 hog I never said arbitration it's mediation. There's a difference. It's where both parties sit down with a mediator after other avenues have been exhausted to remedy the situation. This attendance policy isn't considered a priority to anyone but those affected by it. The general public won't care they'll never support the unions side. In fact it'll never be known outside the railroad. It's a done deal. Most likely the mediator will hear from the railroad that those affected have rest days, PL & DV days, vacation, plus under the FRA the manditory rest after 6 starts. In fact ya'll have more time off legally then anytime in the past. Problem is it's not when you want it. That's seniority. I remember staying up at midnight just to get a PL day before someone else took it when it became available. It won't be long till the trainmen are on the bid system then there isn't any displacement days. Think things can't get worse under the bid systen you're already assigned to a job when coming off vacation. The only positive if there is one the early mark off and late mark ups.

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 August 2010 Guys, why don't you all step back and think about why they brought this policy on us. First of all, I think it's sort of a payback for voting that bullshit contract down. Second, with so many pieces of shit marking off constantly, something had to be done. Now we all know CSX loves their skeleton crew work force but there are a lot who take advantage of the system any way they can, that includes those in our union who constantly lay off union business. What I'd like to know is where is my union? What the hell am I paying for when the company can just hand down new attendance rules whenever the hell they feel like it? What if my child gets sick or I need to go to the hospital the same time during a month? This policy is absolutely ridiculous and we should all be madder than hell. The fact that CSX just slaps us all around like some school girls whenever they feel like it makes me want to puke. The last poster makes a very good point though, most of us are just blue collar no college educated workers with no other outs. CSX knows they have most of us by the balls so they feel like they are entitled to slam us with any policy they want. Here is the solution fellas. We really do need to finally stand strong on this one. I've tried to call for a sick out on this site before but it just keeps getting worse out here and everyone just has this attitude that we can't do anything about it. For those that do, I say be a man and stand up for what is right. If we can just stand down one day next month over this policy it sends a message, a loud and clear one. If nothing changes by the next month, we do it again, and we use the one day policy as the crutch because we are ALL entitled that ONE day. Everyone out here is sick of these company policies and it's about fucking time we man up and stick together because arbitration and hearings could take 2 to 4 years before anything happens. I'm not saying our unions aren't trying to do anything, but this one is up to us guys. It's time for us to finally stick it back to them the way they have been sticking it to us for years.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 August 2010 What it all comes down to is: The company knows, in this rough economy (with no signs of it getting a whole lot better) they have the non-college degree educated, by the balls. The blue collar workforce is all but dead. Where else are these guys with families going to go and do? (they ask this while writing this policy) What is (your) answer? I tried looking online tonight, nothing even close to railroad benefits and pay...not even close! With so many out of work now, let's face it, the company has a vast pool of people to replace you! Let's face this too, the job itself, is not rocket science. Sure, years of experience make (you) more efficent and knowledgable, but so what? Every major railroad has taken a step back from efficent over the past decade or two and they hate it when the grunts know more than management. All they care about is their safety numbers and on-time orginating departures...or so they say.....which means more rules to slow you down in the eveyday task or face getting fired over a non-compliance issue. I am just saying, it's hard to blame the unions for this attendance issue. I have been let down by mine more than once, but I can't pin any blame on this policy on them. I very much doubt that they had any part in writing this thing up. With that being said, this policy is not something that is covered under a working agreement. Sure, one could argue that our displacment rights are being violated, but that's about as far as the arguement can go (trainmen only). Even if the unions win that aspect of it in arbitration, the carrier can still enforce a more strict policy than was in place before. I can see it too fellas, this is an attempt to get the UTU to agree to the SSA....yup I know. After reading this post, if any of you think I have the slightest bit of company blood in me, you are more than mistaken. The truth hurts, but CSX only views us as a six-digit number, and we are ALL more than replacable! While I may not agree with all the "things" the UTU and BLET do, I would hate to work for a railraod that was non-union.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 August 2010 The retired Loco with 30+ makes a valid point. The bonuses CSX and most other public companies pay a few "key" employees is ludicrous. 5% of the executives earn 90% of the bonus money while the others who do most of the work get chump change. Not that it would cover the total cost of the extra employees bur it would make a hell of a dent. Other than a letter of protest from the unions don't expect much help. They might sit around and reminisce about the days of "Blue Steel" but that's about as far as it will go. They weren't much help during Ingram's reign of terror were they? As it was pointed out, they haven't done much after the attendance policy was changed before and in fact were instrumental in allowing the GCs of the BLEt and UTU to negotiate the SSA...one of the grey areas that wasn't defined very well was attendance. If I recall correctly it discussed bonuses and stock awards for meeting certain criteria. I really don't see much difference between what happened during the Ingram years...the investigations and terminations and what is going to happen here. This will become the Brown reign of terror. I was beginning to think things had begun to change for the better. I was wrong...spots on a Leopard don't change after all, just your relationship to them!

Name: hog E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 August 2010 sick leave would be nice but our fps dont even have off days so im allowed to lay off 1day out of 28 the way it stands

Name: tee E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 August 2010 Exactly. If displacement time is useless and chargeable then we might as well have a bid system right? It's coming. Our unions have seen fit to step outside of national handling and this is the first thing we'll get shoved down our throats. Each successive attendance policy has gone unanswered by us and our unions. A boohoo letter is all you'll see. Again. There has been little wrong with any of these other policies. The problem is how they have all been selectively enforced. Kept gray in interpretation on purpose. We all know the ones who lay off and never get busted. And we know some who get it for laying off very little. If the interpretation of them was cut and dry then we would all know what to expect and know where we stand. CSX doesn't want that. It would be a "blueprint to lay off by". The only solution I see (and i doubt it will ever happen) is paid sick leave. X number of days per year. When they're gone, then you get charged.

Name: HOG E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 August 2010 arbitration is a joke! I'll be retired before that happens. HELLO UTU displacement is USELESS you might as well lay off Sick

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 August 2010 Last weeks union meeting it was reported the BLET filed a letter of protest over the new attendance policy it'll end up in mediation. It's not much but they did something. You shouldn't say they did nothing unless you know the facts.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 August 2010 hog- Maybe next time, before you start posting on a public message board, you will do just a little investigating before you start hitting keys. Please read below, it may help you understand the whole process and lessen your outrage....to a degree. Posted on Thursday, August 05 In a letter to CSXT AVP David Ingoldsby on August 5, 2010, General Chairperson J. E. Lesniewski issued a formal response to the Carrier’s new availability standards published in System Notice No. 108. Therein he advised AVP Ingoldsby of the General Committee’s position that the newly revised attendance standards violate Rule 100, Section 7, of the B&O Schedule Agreement requiring the Carrier to maintain sufficient employees to allow reasonable layoff privileges; as well as Rule 8 (d) 2 as amended by Article XII (Displacement) of the May 8, 1996 UTU Agreement (Arbitration Award 559) entitling a B&O train service employee up to 48 hours to exercise his displacement rights before he is marked VUA (Voluntary Unexplained Absence). A copy of General Chairperson Lesniewski’s August 5, 2010 letter can be reviewed here. Despite the fact that we in labor consider the revised availability standards to be a major problem, members should be aware the issue is nevertheless defined as a “minor” dispute as that term is defined in the Railway Labor Act (meaning that it involves interpretation of existing contract agreement provisions). It has already been determined through previous court actions and railroad arbitrations that the Carrier has sole authority to unilaterally establish Company policy at their discretion so long as that policy does not invalidate collectively bargained Agreement provisions (which is what we are contending here). In order to enforce those Collective Bargaining Agreement provisions, however, labor is forced to go through the grievance handling procedures provided in the Railway Labor Act and our Schedule Agreement, up to and including arbitration. Currently all CSXT – UTU General Chairpersons are communicating with each other, and with International President Futhey, in an effort to coordinate our response and collectively expedite the issue to arbitration as soon as possible (if necessary). It’s not the quickest process, but unless we can convince the Carrier to rescind their policy voluntarily, arbitration is the only means we have to force the issue. International President Futhey has also contacted CSXT Senior VP Labor Relations Stephen Crable and is in the process of scheduling a personal meeting with senior CSX management and the UTU General Chairmen to air out our issues regarding the revised standards and hopefully reach a consensus that will rescind, or at the very least scale back to a tolerable level, CSXT’s policy and bring it within contractual guidelines. If that doesn’t work, however, we’ll be forced to arbitrate; and the sooner the better. We surely understand, appreciate and share in the anxiety of our membership. Nevertheless the General Committee is forced to beg the members’ patience, reminding them this is a unilaterally promulgated Carrier Availability Policy. Labor had no part in its construction; nor were we permitted to add, extract or amend even one word of the notice. The Availability Policy is not a labor agreement. Nevertheless, it is our position that the Carrier’s unilaterally promulgated Availability Policy infringes upon our negotiated agreement benefits. As such it is our further position, supported by precedential Public Law Board decisions on this property, that the Carrier cannot create a policy to nullify negotiated contractual agreement provisions; and we fully intend to pursue relief by every legal means available to us based on that position.

Name: hog E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 August 2010 It has it been over a week. We haven't heard anything from the unions. This is an outrage. I've looked on the lay off boards. There are already a lot of men in trouble if this policy isn't resolved. I'm sick of the union taking shit from this company. We pay more dues than any other union in this Great Country. I for one expect something in return. I'm not paying dues so the union stewards can lay off on the weekends and jack-off. Is the utu and ble branches of csx? thats how it feels were I'm from

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 August 2010 I'm sorry you feel that way especially when most of your carreer we didn't have these attendance policies. I think calling yourself a CSX prostitute is a little overboard. We dealt with a lot of BS on the railroad. I understand about the loss of a parent. In 2007 I was already in deep crap with the CSX attendance policy over taking to much time off to take care of my mother she lived 600 miles away. In late 2007 I also wasn't there for her in the end my sisters and nieces were that was all I needed to know she had people who loved her by her side. The blame belongs to Ward, Ingram, and the unions all this started when Ward took over as CEO. When my father passed away in 1996 it was a totally different story I was at the away terminal called for work but not yet on the train. It only took one phone call to the RFE he had us on a deadhead home with words of regret for the loss and even an extended hand if I needed anything call. I doubt if that would happen these days.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 August 2010 I am a former CSX Engineer with 30 plus years. My biggest regret now, is that I allowed myself to become CSX's prostitute. Due to the attendance policy, I missed my kids graduation, the birth of my grandbabies and being at the bedside of my dying father. CSX is a company that is run by Liars, cheats,and thieves. They never honor the contracts that are agreed to. When time to retire comes, you will regret everything that you missed! If the execs at CSX would stop giving themselves such big bonuses, the amount saved would easily cover insurance and retirement costs on having additional employees available on the extra lists. Safety, which they care about only in sound bytes, would improve and the employees would have less streess at home,so they could focus on the job at hand. If I had it to do over, I would of never returned to CSX in the 70's. CSX SUCKS!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 August 2010 This attendance policy will stick only if the union officials don't do there jobs. Some of us currently still have agreements that say we have a certain amount of time to make moves when we are displaced. If the company can over ride the agreements, then the union officials are either in bed with the carrier, or just plain weak when it comes to doing there job. In other words they have no business in those positions, vote them out! Remember, you & I are the union! If you want progress its going to take a slow down, sick out, or strike to fix this problem. This is where those union officials will have to earn there pay. I don't know about any one else, but I'm fed up with the people that I pay to represent us continue to turn there backs on real issues. CSX DOES SUCK! I HAVE NOTHING BUT HATE FOR CSX!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 August 2010 Company fags are worse!

Name: HO E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 August 2010 union reps are fags

Name: AT CONDUCTOR E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 06 August 2010 V E R B O T E N V V E R B O T E N V E R B O T E N E R V E R B O T E N V E R B O T E N B O V E R B O T E N T E N V E R B O T E N V E R B O T E N V E R B O T E N V E R B O T E N V E R B O T E N V E R B O T E N V E R B O T E N V E R B O T E N V E R B O T E N

Name: 09 E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 06 August 2010 talked to LC today we're stuck with this new policy even the men up here have cooled down I guess no one cares they pay for bad representation

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 06 August 2010 I went to the union meeting yesterday. It was a strange one. The quietest meetings I've ever been to. Seems people are burnt out or don't care anymore. I didn't speak seeing I'm retired most issues don't affect me anymore except possibly getting some of the $30,000 worth of my claims paid. LMFAO. I thought that was pretty funny. Thank goodness another retiree called me after about an hour into it to meet for lunch. That was my exit.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 August 2010 Hey Con 1-10: Are you sure the only thing the carriers save is insurance cost? What about their contribution to RR retirement and unemployment and the additional administrative staff and costs associated with the extra employees? It might be more than you think.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 05 August 2010 Extraboard men are there for the sole purpose of covering layoffs! If people lay off and an extraboard man covers his slot, the extraboard man gets paid for that day and the assigned man doesn't, therefore it costs the company nothing. The only thing they save by cutting the need for extraboard employees is the insurance costs,

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 August 2010 Half the people on this board are trolls. Go read a rule book, then post.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 August 2010 Hey Loco 1-10: There's no doubt CSX spends a lot of money and manpower e-testing employees. Harassment is certainly a by-product of e-testing when the managers doing the testing are a bunch of know nothing greenhorns more interested in climbing the corporate ladder than learning to railroad. There was a time, maybe 8 or 9 years ago when CSX promoted men from the ranks to Trainmasters. In those days if you received a failure it was likely because they were required to have a certain number of failures, which seldom triggered investigations. That all changed after Ward took over...Trainmaster had to have degrees; whether they knew anything about being a supervisor or the RR. Then Ward hired Ingram...and what had been a good company to work for instantly become one of the worst. Investigations and termination became the order of the day. Ward did do a couple of things I thought was smart...he reorganized the management structure from 11 layers to 8 layers, which in my opinion is still 3 too many, and sold the port operations and the ocean going businesses. CSX is first and foremost a railroad, they need to concentrate on be the best railroad in North America, there's a lot of room for improvement, every thing else is cannon fodder. Is CSX a well managed company or as profitable as they can be? You be the judge... but you have to look beyond the numbers before you decide. Controlling payroll costs is certainly a key component to profitability but then again, so are many other factors. You said ..."that if CSX would spend less time, money, and effort trying to harass and manipulate it employees those costs would dwindle"... CSX's view point is the employees are manipulating the system by abusing the privilege. As I mentioned in an prior post, CSX is always short handed on weekends and holidays. It's hard to run trains without crews and CSX has made efforts to improve attendance with the SSAs through bonuses and stock awards...the carrot hasn't worked, now it's stick time. As far as attending church services, the was a code you used for that when marking off. I've only seen it used a few times, all by the same person but that's been years ago. I don't know if that will fly under the new policy.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 05 August 2010 Even though I'm retired I plan on going to the union meeting this morning. Curious on what the BLET plans to do with this attendance policy. One issue in particular the inclusion of vacation, PL, and DV days as available days which would be counted as time off under the restrictions placed by CSX. The unions had already fought and won against the railroads illegally forcing people to use vacation days ect...for FMLA. The unions were also successful in getting money back for the vacation & PL days that the railroads illegally took from their employees under FMLA.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 August 2010 I really dont understand what CSX is doing with the layoff policy. I have seen a post from nomo talking about what is costs csx if a employee lays off and he has to understand that if CSX would spend less time, money, and effort trying to harass and manipulate it employees those costs would dwindle. Most intelligent folks will not even touch the purchase of CSX stock, because they know it is the most mismanaged railroad in the US. Myself I am a religious person so I guess I can now only go to church 1 day a month and can decide on my own if its a Wednesday or Sunday. If Jesus comes tomorrow what will be CSX's story to tell.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 August 2010 Hey Loco 1-10: How does CSX lose money if you lay off? Lets quit thinking about yourself for a moment...how many employees in T&E lay off on any given day system wide above those on days off, vacation or PL days? For the sake of the argument, how about 500. That means CSX has to pay men OT or to double over in yard service to staff their jobs or call an extra board man. In road service they call an extra board man. Using 500 that's 500 extra board employees above and beyond the extras needed to cover days off and other legitimate lay offs. Now consider that benefits for every employee costs CSX an additional 30% above their salary. I don't know what the guarantee is any more but lets say $150/day. The 500 additional men costs CSX $22,500/day in benefits. That's $157,500/week or $8,190,000/year. If you lay off it may only cost CSX $45 but when you put it into perspective it costs CSX $22,500/day! Now factor in the rest of transportation. The new attendance policy is about managing their payroll...had the employees not abused the privilege they wouldn't be facing such a harsh policy. If this policy doesn't stop the abuse, the next one will be harsher yet!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 August 2010 Reason an attendance policy is basic simple economics: It goes back to the days when the union officers bent-over and took the money. If more could be done with less; then the profits are limitless because TE&Y employment is cut in half from 20 years ago and more incidental claims are lost for doing other craft's assignments.

Name: NoMo is an idiot E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 August 2010 Nomo, If you layoff you dont get a guarantee....simply as that. So why is the RR forcing this attendance policy down our throats? If you layoff you dont get paid and the RR is not losing any money. You a train master or something?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 August 2010 Is Matt Sanders fired yet for what he did?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 August 2010 re, blet...good post! You must have seen this: http://richmond.craigslist.org/rnr/1850616511.html

Name: blet E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years Posted: 04 August 2010 I get damned tired of hearing you guys complain about everything. If you don't wanna work quit. No other craft in the R.R. industry looks for reasons not to work as much as you slackers. CSX's new attendance policy is fair to all employees, we should know, we agreed to it. We are down here in the General Chariman's office busting our asses for you guys. We show up to work 5 days a week (Mon.-Fri.) minus golf outings and paid holidays (Most of you guys don't get) Ha!Ha!Ha!. And, by the way we only make between $95,000 and $125,000 per year (plus Bribes and Kickbacks). So, if you don't like it quit. Good luck finding another job that pays as well as you guys do without any higher education (most of you guys don't have.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 August 2010 Hey Con <1: CSX is doing it because the system has been abused for years by a small percentage of men. Personal leave is for emergencies and you can take your vacation in blocks or on a daily basis...it just takes a little planning. As bad as it may seem, it's no different than most other companies. CSX doesn't want more employees than necessary. It's not unreasonable that CSX expects employees to be available for work when they're needed, in fact they guarantee you a minimum income to be availible. Do away with the guarantee and you can work whenever you want, provided you're needed. In another month or two you'll have plenty of time to ponder that after the furloughs begin. You are probably new to the site...it's not necessary to post under every topic, we read them all...just pick the best topic!

Name: New layoff policy is BS E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 August 2010 ok so if you dont work you dont make money. Why is CSX doing this bullshit? Now it hurts the guys who hardly ever layoff and when an emergency comes up they either have to use a personal day or vacation. WE NEED TO HAVE A SYSTEM WIDE SICK OFF!!!!! fuck the union...they wont do shit about it so we should.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 04 August 2010 LE 10-20 You better go back and read the new attendance policy. It includes FMLA as available days. I'm sure there are those who abuse FMLA in fact I knew one who had it for his wife funny thing was she didn't know about it. He marked off every weekend he finally got busted not by CSX but from his wife who noticed his paycheck kept shrinking. FMLA isn't that easy to get. I tried in 2006-2007 to apply for FMLA to help my Mom who lived 600 miles away. CSX rejected my application which meant I had to exhaust all vacation and PL days to help her. In 2007 after exhausting vacation & PL by mid year I ended up with 4 investigation notices from CSX under the attendance policy. My LC & RFE helped squash 3 of them the last one I gave up and took the 2 days overhead. My opinion of CSX deminished I felt no loyality to the railroad that I gave 30 years of service to at that point. FMLA is a last resort it isn't to be used for someones personal gain. There is bad in everything two wrongs don't make a right.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 03 August 2010 Here's the problem folks: http://richmond.craigslist.org/rnr/1850616511.html

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 03 August 2010 The new policy is a joke. This is an attempt to force all working pools and boards to gauranty with off days. The old policy was workable, but due to a few lazy POS, who are faking reasons to have FMLA and are shielded from the policy, the rest of us will have to suffer. As of today, I am talking with ALL my healthcare providers in order to establish what I need to do to get FMLA (I'm not working like a slave when everyone else is at the lake drinking beer!).I suggest everyone do this. Take a copy of the old policy and the new one and explain the situation to your doctor. The unions wont do a thing until we are terminated and they start seeing a decline in dues revenue. Union leadership would rather support illegal immigration and destroying our healthcare plans than to actually protect dues paying members. If you do go to an absentee investigation, make sure you ask every official involved how many off days they get- MAKE THEM ANSWER QUESTION!! Keep fighting!

Name: 09 E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 03 August 2010 new notice no response from the unions yet utu or ble webpages doesnt mention anything both the utu and ble local chairmans on our sub laid off saturday union buisness we recieved 1 Email that there was a new policy thanks for the info and your welcome for the weekend off its time to do something i vote strike no one but a fool would follow this new policy if you're on a pool with no off days you're screwed I really feel for the trainman no drop turn no pb layoff no off days

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 August 2010 The BLET members discussion area was closed down because one of the new VP's that was promoted recently due to acting BLET President Paul Sorrows retirement got his feelings hurt. There was never any discussion about upcoming elections this year. It pertained to his record as general chairmen. One post did mention that the members should have the right to vote for every office in the union especially the general committee. One of the people posting had been a VGC under this person. Right before they shut it down they were deleting his post. No one was soliciting votes for anyone that was running for national office.

Name: red E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 August 2010 strike strike strike strike strike strike strike strike strike strike ble utu ble utu ble utu ble utu ble utu ble utu ble utu ble utu ble they're to blame we expect this from the company but not the union you guys are right

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 02 August 2010 Discussion Area They dont want to hear our problems they dont care they sure wont care about the new notice Within recent days there have been several member postings to the Discussion Area that have raised political issues related to this year’s election of National Division Officers. Section 49 of the National Division Rules of the BLET Bylaws states in part that no “publication or communication financed, directly or indirectly, by a Union may be used to support or attack any candidate or the candidacy of any person.” Since the Discussion Area is financed directly by the National Division, it may not be used to support or attack any candidate or the candidacy of any person. To prevent any further violation of Brotherhood law access to the Discussion Area is being discontinued.

Name: crackhead hogger E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 August 2010 I would like to say that if there were ever a time to strike CSX, now is the time. I have watched this company walk all over our unions and brothers since I came here in the late 90's. I've watched as they divided and conquered us. I've seen my pay drop, benefits being reduced, and seniority destroyed by the unions and carrier. Now they want to make sure that I don't get the chance to do anything other than work. Period. I for one vote STRIKE. If we don't stand up for ourselves, no one will. The carrier will continue to do what they want until we walk. We have to show them what we will and will not take. I will not take this and am not gonna quit because they don't like it. CSX just declared record profits again. They can afford to hire people and give us time off work when we would like it. -Crackhead Hogger.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 August 2010 It seems the attendance policy has been revised seven or eight times over the last 10 years. I don't think it's unreasonable for CSX to expect their employees to be available, in fact regular attendance is a condition of employment. Everybody will agree the mark off privilege has been abused by some. CSX has been shorthanded on weekends and holidays for years...lets not forget third trick jobs and rainy days. I thought the SSA required certain attendance criteria to trigger a bonus and stock award...if money doesn't work, nothing will! What would bother me is..."ON 2 OR MORE DAYS IN A ROLLING 4-WEEK PERIOD WILL BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW". What is a rolling 4-week period? There's nothing definitive in rolling...I think CSX and the Unions will interpret it to mean whenever they can charge your ass! The UTU and BLEt's influence has been waining for years...they're impotent do do anything about it and CSX knows it. The Unions might as well change their name to The Dead Pecker Society because a rooster shot wont help them put up a (stiff) fight. CSX has for years wanted every contract employee to have one foot out the door and the other on a banana peel...meet the peel. I don't think your fire insurance will pay for attendance related discipline either. Your masters voice!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 August 2010 August 1, 2010 .......and CSX STILL SUCKS!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 02 August 2010 When you think it can't get any worse. Place has changed drastically in just one year since I left. This new availability policy even includes PL, DV, and vacation as available days. That's streaching it. If the union doesn't do anything this time I'd have to admit their useless. CSX has gone to far.

Name: yard puke E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years Posted: 02 August 2010 how about pools with no off day they can lay off 1day out of 28 this wouldnt even happen at walmart

Name: fed up E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 August 2010 C S X T R A N S P O R T A T I O N TIME TO STRIKE THIS SHIT IS OUT HAND BLE AND UTU EARN YOUR DAMN MONEY AND TAKE CARE OF THIS OUTRAGE AND I DONT MEAN SOME HALF SOLUTION WHERE WE STILL GET SCREWED DO YOUR JOB AND ILL DO MINE SYSTEM BULLETINS/NOTICES JULY 30, 2010 BULLETINS & NOTICES SYSTEM NOTICE 108 TO: ALL CSX EMPLOYEES LOCATION: CSX TRANSPORTATION EFFECTIVE: IMMEDIATELY SUBJECT: NEW AVAILABILITY STANDARDS THE NEW AVAILABILITY STANDARDS SUPERCEDE AND REPLACE ALL EXISTING ATTENDANCE MEASUREMENTS AS WELL AS SYSTEM REISSUE NOTICE 100,ITEM 3, DATED JULY 1, 2010. MINIMUM AVAILABILITY EMPLOYEES WHO ARE UNAVAILABLE FOR ANY NON-COMPENSATED REASON (OTHER THAN REST DAYS AND TIME OFF MANDATED BY THE HOURS OF SERVICE ACT, AS AMENDED BY THE RAIL SAFETY IMPROVEMENT ACT) ON 2 OR MORE DAYS IN A ROLLING 4-WEEK PERIOD WILL BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW. NOTE: AVAILABLE TIME INCLUDES ALL COMPENSATED TIME OFF(INCLUDING VACATION, PERSONAL LEAVE, AND PERSONAL BUSINESS), AS WELL AS TIME MARKED-OFF FOR FMLA LEAVE OR FOR ANY OTHER MARK-OFFS PROVIDED BY LAW EXISTING ATTENDANCE DISCIPLINE PROGRESSION PROCESS WILL NOT CHANGE. * FIRST 2 ATTENDANCE FAILURES HANDLED WITH WARNING LETTERS. * FIRST INVESTIGATION - 2 DAYS OVERHEAD FOR 6 MONTHS. * SECOND INVESTIGATION - 5 DAYS ACTUAL SUSPENSION. * THIRD INVESTIGATION - DISCIPLINE ASSESSED - UP TO DISMISSAL. EMPLOYEE'S RECORD WILL CONTINUE TO BE REVIEWED FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS FROM THE CURRENT INCIDENT.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 July 2010 Check out System Notice 108, new attendance policy! Work short handed because CSXT is too damn cheap to hire any new employees! Keep the roosters cut low & squeeze the hell out of profits! Its ok if you work your bodies into the ground or end up in the hospital. CSX is Safety First!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 July 2010 Hey Corp. Off. 30+: The cycle is now complete...your batting 1000...your wedding and anniversaries, childbirth, birthdays, baptisms, graduations etc. You'll probably miss your retirement party too...then you'll die! Oops I forgot...there's nothing left to miss!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 23 July 2010 I missed my own funeral.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 22 July 2010 SORT OF OFF TOPIC I AM A LONG TERM CSX EMPLOYEE AND KNOW THE DRAWBACKS AND ADVANTAGES OF THIS WORK. A LONG TIME FRIENDS (FORMER RR EMPLOYEE) WELL EDUCATED SON JUST MOVED TO FULTON, MO. TO TEACH SCHOOL. HIS BROTHER, EQUALLY SMART BUT NO EDUCATION (BOTH EARLY 30'S)WANTS TO JOIN HIM THERE BUT SEEMS TO FOCUS ON BURGER KING AND QUICKY MART. PROBABLY SAME HASSLE @ HALF THE PAY. SURELY THERE IS A RR JOB WITHIN DRIVING RANGE THAT IS BETTER THAN THAT! PERHAPS CNIC? ANY THOUGHTS OR SUGGESTIONS? THANKS! DIRECT E-MAIL TO dieselshop3 at y a h o o dot com (misspelled so the web spiders don't harvest).

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A Posted: 20 July 2010 Interesting link that says it all and should be addressed: http://richmond.craigslist.org/rnr/1850616511.html

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 July 2010 Conductor 1-10 I think your phone is ringing. You are so off base, it might be time to take a nap.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 July 2010 this is in response to signal bitch. obviously your dumbass doesnt know that csx is not in california so it was not us that killed those people. your pussy ass wouldnt last a week on the line of road with us so shut your fuckin mouth and fix our signals so we can get the real work done!!!!

Name: signal man E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 July 2010 this has got to be a joke.. A big group of conductors and engineers that have nothing better to do then cry. I am a signalman with CSX and have never heard anyone cry and bitch as much as you guys. If you dont like your jobs then quit. It is because of your rule violations and not paying attention you ever get in trouble. Everytime I have to go to a meeting with trans I hate it you are a big group of crying bitches. Also it was a trans person that is making us work extra hard under FRA and now we have to add PTC because one of you guys in California killed a bunch of people while texting. Here is a hint, try to go get another job and see if you get paid 50+K a year to sit on your ass and complain because a caller runner didnt bring you ice and crew packs.

Name: Tank E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 July 2010 took a look at the proposed consolidation that CSX wants to impose. Looks like Montgomery and Erwin are really gonna take up the ass. Also it is very obvious that CSX is kissing the SCL's ass and wanting to punish the L&N for voting down the last agreement. Wow what a great company to work for. The L&N local chairmen need to get off there asses and stop this before shit really hits the fan. Would like to hear what everyone else has to say about this horse shit

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 03 July 2010 Did the webmaster forget about this website? Doesn't look like it has been updated in the longest time. well besides the daily comments that people post.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 June 2010 RRJ, The time has passed when a person worked for the RR, and did it for the family. To much free money laying around, to many folks that have never had a job. They never wanted a job and neither did their mom and DAD?? Dad took of when mom was expecting, and worked the streets, taking anything that was there. I see them everyday. They trash every neighborhood that they live in. They live there because of section 8 and other gov programs, and they are not all Black either. My intention was to comment on Free money from the RR. As I recall drawing it a few times it was based on 500 miles per week. Stay marked up for 7 days and draw a free day if you had less than 500 miles or 5 starts for the preceding week. I was always on the road and drew a few, not many. As I recall it paid less than a straight day, around $10.00 or so. Oh Well so much for my ranting.

Name: Ms danvill E-mail: Asmo Employed as: Yard Master, for Less than 1 year Posted: 26 June 2010 Word is Angie smith won her case against Csx . Found Csx guilty on all counts/sexual harrassment withthanks going too wes knick. Next followed up by retaliation for daring to report it.. Honor goes to jack Vierling for firing her . Maybe Csx can sell his black belt in six sigma with jay fleenors dentures and have enough for attorney fees. Honorable mention goes to Terry schray and randy hall for nailing down the loose ends and making sure the jurors had no doubt what a sleazy bunch Csx has at the hel

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 26 June 2010 Your right Goob things should of been left alone. Today they complain if they have to work seeing drawing a gaurentee leaves no incentive. When it was feast or famine we were glad to accept the call. Years of being on an extra board meant you had something to look forwards eventually getting a job on a freight pool. Those gaurentees placed a lot of restrictions on the job gone were the days a person could mark off for 28 days without recourse from the railroad. The railroads now control the numbers on the XB which are kept low. Many a payday while working the XB I'd get my check from the paymaster then move to the right to sign up for days of unemployment for time missed while marked up.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 June 2010 RRJ, Sounds right. All they could talk about in the late 60's was the Guaranteed income that they wanted so badly. Looking back losing the 100 mile day, Vacation based on years ETC. It sure would be nice if things had been left alone. Work or Starve was the way it was, and no one really bitched about it. I spent more time on the off board than I did working, and no one said a word. We had married folks trying to make a living and many single folks like me wanting a few bucks to screw around with. When I left it was the same. However I had married and went from leisure to taking every trip, however except for emergency I could work 1 day a month if I wanted to and no one said anything. These were the good times to RR.

Name: JUST FUCKING WORKING E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 23 June 2010 for the working stiff suck ass condickter csx will fuck you up the ass for kissing ther ass you stupid sob.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 22 June 2010 Goob Those days ended in the early '90s when the basic day was raised from 100 miles to 130.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 June 2010 As I remember from the 60's it was years of service to earn a Vacation. I always had 2 weeks and never worked any amount of days to qualify. I do remember that cut off employees would lose some vacation, depending on how many months they were on the street. So earning a vacation one year to enjoy it the next was there. Day's worked was not.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 June 2010 To make vacation it's 234 days for the road and 240 days for the yard.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 June 2010 Its always been 240 starts as long as I can remember

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 June 2010 Hey Red: At the most, you're only talking six starts...either way, with the HOS law I doubt you'll qualify!

Name: red E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 June 2010 I've been laid off and just came back to work. I'm on the road. Does anyone know how many qualifing days I need for vacation. I'm hearing 240 or 234 does anyone know for sure. Thanks

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 June 2010 new dude Oldheads knew what it was like when the railroad wasn't in the shape it's in. They've earned the right to say "it's bad". We've seen a lot of changes very few have been positive. They are having just as hard of a time adjusting to the constant barrage of rule changes and intimidation as those who are barely vested or just hiring out. Oldheads know their limitations on how far they can push management that comes with experience. Most are vested they'll stay their time is short. Study that rule book stay on top of things that is the best one can do. Use the rules to your advantage. It's not that easy one day if it hasn't happened already a trainmaster will order you to violate a rule. Best advise get a witness write the info down on paper date/time/TM name ect...then the witness and you sign it. It's for your protection.

Name: New dude E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 June 2010 ladies and gentlemen, I am new to CSX and based on what i have read this company sucks, but only because management interprets the rule book one way and the union guys another. Granted i think management uses intimidation and will not hesitate to fire someone even without due process but call me new but as long as i follow the rules i will not have a problem. I am sure the day i get fired my opinion will change, but luckily I am trying to get as familiar with the rules book as possible so they can't find a bullshit reason. Also i keep hearing oldheads saying how bad it is, well maybe they need to work outside of the RR and they will see it sucks everywhere. Good luck finding a job that has good retirement like the RR, because this day in age 401K isn't worth dick. Also just for the record....BANNERS are to me harassment. Does management have anything else better to do? Thank God we passed this idiotic test with flying colors.

Name: Dr Ruth E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 June 2010 C&O Joe: Sounds like to me you may be the one that needs laid. Maybe you and Wes could do each other since you both seem to be experts on who needs fucked.

Name: Mongo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 June 2010 I just put in apps for Batlimore, Cumberland and Richmond VA. Granted if Im lucky to get interviewed and hired. Does anyone know what these terminals are like? I see good and bad comments at this site so I figure someone here can hopefully give me a straight answer. I live in PA and applied for openings in VA and MD.....what are the odds of getting hired? Does it matter that Im willing to relocate or am I SOL since I live in PA and would have to move myself down to near the terminal that I would hopefully luckly get hired at. Any advice on the interviews and what not would be of great help.

Name: Det. Munch E-mail: blowme@yahho.com Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 June 2010 The mechanical department has steadily slid into craptitude. The final blow was the appointment of Gary Bethel as VP-Mechanical. At the time of the appointment, a short-line was advertising for the very same position. Bethel did not qualify for the job. Now, how did he qualify for the job on a class 1 railroad? As long as this board of directors continues to smile and giggle as Ward blows smoke up their stovepipe, it will continue to suck. These morons spend alot of time writing people up instead of training them, and it is pathetic. And hiring trainmasters off the street without training them in the jobs they are actually supervising is the height of insanity. They're all company drones. If they don't see it on the monthly video, they don't know it at all. How these guys pass their pods is beyond me.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 June 2010 LE 1-10 It's not CSX fault if you feel you're under paid. No one forced anyone to vote for the BLET/CSX SSA. You can't cry over spilled milk now. That's the problem with this generation they can't see beyond their faces. It'll get worse as the years go on with stagnant wages.

Name: Tank E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 June 2010 Hey Nomo, I will bet you 100% i keep my job, why don't you go suck on the corp teet and go screw one of your train master budddies

Name: t cat E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 June 2010 act stupid ,, they will never ask you to do nothing again.. thats what i found out ,, only company snitches do all the work the rest of us just lay low and collect checks!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 June 2010 I'm thinkin' the Tank is talkin' tough. I doubt he is willing to give up his job. I'll bet you money he marks off. Tank shut up...you lose!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 June 2010 hey tank your thinking right just take it the distance. dont give the sobs 5 min just call relief dont tell a lie like my head hurts or anything just call and walk

Name: Tank E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 June 2010 Friend of CSX worker, My wife is pregnant as well and i will be damned if i turn off my phone. If i am at work when she calls i will tell her to call the YM or Train Dispatcher (depending where i am working) one time. If i dont get a response in 5 minutes, my ass is off and gone. They don't want you to interferer with them making money and your outside life is at the very bottom of the list of core values

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 June 2010 CSX has the oldest fleet of engines & we are the lowest paid employees of all the class I railroads. CSX SUCKS!

Name: cjones E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 June 2010 There is noone to complain to about the shape of the engines, its the management at the shops that wont let us fix the locomotives. If we write it up they get someone else to look at it and sign it off or say I didnt know what I was talking about. They are putting you and the public at risk, running locomotives with bad wheels, oil leaks and fuel leaks. I should know I work there, and have seen it. I have seen them do 92day work in the ready the field where it cant all be done, traction motor grease goes unchecked. I asked an older guy which oil to put in one of the newer EMD;s and he said he didnt know because he had never done it, meaning he just signs off the work and sends it out the door. They are suppose to be doing a complete air test on the unit when it leaves the shop, and they dont. One of the older guys said hey did you see that locomotive stop when they jogged it in here, its good no reason to check the brakes. I was forced to do an air test and I didnt know how to do it and they threatend to pull me out of service if I didnt. They thought I wouldnt be able to find anything wrong. Well I found a book with instructions and I found 60 pound main resivoir leak, it dropped 20 pounds every three minutes. Boy were they pissed that I found it, The air compressor was bad and it was blowing back through causing the leak. Now what if I didnt find that or they got someone else to do it that didnt give a crap, someone could have got killed when that compressor burnt up and it would have. I tried my best to do my job and they didnt like so they stopped assigning as much work to me. There is another guy I work with who will kill a unit if its not right and he will write up so much stuff they cant outshop, but on the other he doesnt mind fixing what he finds. He told me if your gonna write it up you better be prepared to fix it because manangement will try to punish you by making you do the work. Alot of people write up things, thinking the next shift will take care of it, but for someone kills two out of three engines a day you have to be prepared to go the distance and do the work to stick it to management. Managers get so mad when they cant make a number(meaning outshop a unit)thats all they care about, jacksonville watches the shop count and calls when they are not getting units out. Guys it is your job to take care of the locomotives, if everyone picks up there trash and just puts it in a bag and dont destroy the cabs because your pissed off at the company, turn that anger into inspecting the locomotive prior to leaving, open those engine doors and look at the fuel pumps on a GE make sure they arent leaking(fire hazard) look at the wheels, you guys have been running engines long enough to know when a wheel is out of spec. CSX doesnt care about you or the shape of the locomotive all they want is money

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 02 June 2010 Congratulations on the birth of your child. I'm glad your husband made it and I hope that he'll just get a slap on the wrist for leaving work without permission. Which it could be a major offense. If he has a clean record not much should happen. That's a tough call seeing local management doesn't dole out anything anymore they take orders from their superiors. You must realise that for your husband to leave meant shutting down that job and that is the way CSX will look at it. There are no on site replacements to do that means calling another person in which could take 2 hours or more and cause delays. To be a railroad spouse you must think like a military spouse you will act as the role of both parents most of the time.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 June 2010 YM less than a year If you read beyond your blinders which keeps you ignorant I'm retired my opinion was one of good sound advise. I don't care if anyone takes my advise. CSX will continue to harrass and fire people at their will if people don't get their heads out of their arses and start thinking before making stupid moves. What's wrong with being Southern? Which again your wrong I started my railroading in Ohio then moved down south. It's funny we had more control over our jobs then you'll ever know but like most of America today the worker has lost out. Try to have a nice carreer. Being a YM isn't to pleasant of a job with TM's directing your moves which their higher ups are directing their moves which makes TM & YM nothing but goffers. That's a sad state to be in. At least I left with my pride in tact by just doing what they wanted and made plenty of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 01 June 2010 So I am a spouse of an Employee...I went into labor and called my spouse/employee to let them know that their child was coming and soon. Said employee worked over an hour away from home. Said employee advised me the only reason their phone was answered was because they were on lunch and I had to call yard master to contact them or they would suffer serious consequences for answering phone, even while on lunch time. I called yard master and explained situation and asked yard master to radio my spouse ASAP because baby is coming and I am heading to hospital...10 minutes...20 minutes...25 minutes and employee calls me back saying WTF did you call yard master to contact me?...YES I called yard master and said please contact my husband and let him know his baby is coming...had to call yard master again...long story short...spouse had to run off job without yard master permission to be at the hospital for birth of first child...was written up as "calling off on duty" to be home in time for part of their child's birth. The yard master never informed employee of spouses call even though i personally spoke to yard master 2x's. Talk about core values.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Yard Master, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 June 2010 to RRJ: Although you may be a traimaster or just a southern 'company man' type...we all have to get what we can get these days...but this whole adapt crap...i guess if csx wanted you to eat turds every shift, you'd be more than happy to 'adapt'...that's just a load of crap...AMERICANS worked and fought hard to have a more-than-mexican existence...but then again, you 'adapt' like a cockroach to an any circumstance or condition...cockroaches get squashed in the end... dont listen to this company-man crap...fight the power every day in every way!!!

Name: screw csx E-mail: screwcsx@gofockyourself.com Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 May 2010 just wanted to say Happy Memorial Day to all Union brothers and sisters. As far as CSX goes, YEP, YOU STILL SUCK!!! Enjoy and happy drinking!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years Posted: 31 May 2010 Angie Smith vs. CSX case goes to court in Danville 0900 Tuesday June 1st. Anyone in the area may want to see this show. Come to the court house and see all your favorite Characters....Frulla, Vierling, Fleenor, Wes Knick, Randy Hall, Terry Schray and last but not least a special guest appearance by no other than Gery Williams. Guaranteed to have more dirt and scandal out in public than an Jerry Springer episode.

Name: Freddie Krueger E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 30 May 2010 It's not like working for the Nazis, the Nazis were run better.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 May 2010 Carman in Selkirk NY,I am hearing that the FRA is camped out in Waycross GA. What is going on, Is Matt Carson still employed?

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 May 2010 If CSX is like working for Nazi's then quit. No one is holding a gun to your head. I still can't understand if someone has literally no time invested out here and hates it why would they stick around. You either adapt or leave. Go to railroad.net to the forum employment section there you'll see people explaining other railroads ethics and they're no different then CSX. That's a fact.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 May 2010 Hey Drinky: Sounds like you're from NO...is Gabby's still open?

Name: Drinky the drunk guy E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 May 2010 Sounds like you have an alcoholic trainmaster in Danville WV. In new orleans they just had a trainmaster fail a breath test. He had just got out of rehab for drinking on the job and Angie Averitte was in NOLA for a couple of days and tipped him off that the nurse was there to test him. He just did not come into work. The next day they were back and he showed up and the idiot failed the test. This trainmaster, Joe Rider also fired more people than anybody there....and he was caught drinking on the job. Think about that for a minute. That whole terminals officals are the biggest bunch of drunks on the railroad. Angie was over saftery for the Atl Division and could not even drive to work because she had so many DUI's.

Name: worker E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 May 2010 worlking for CSX is like working for the NAZI's!

Name: Tank E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 14 May 2010 only been back for less than month after this wonderful company furloughed me before i could complete training. Anyways meet all the train master at my yard the when i got back and all of them said unlike what the old heads think we are not here to fire you we just want to make sure your safe. They went on about how they don't want to do all the paper work involved in firing someone. I believed what they said for about a week. That is when a job in my yard had a derailment because two empty flat cars bunched up and derailed. The same young train master who told me we was here for us and not here to fire anyone was so, so, so excited saying " i finally got me one, i have been looking to fire someone" These were the exact words from his mouth. Never have i seen someone so excited to put a working man on the street without a care. What was funny is the investigation proved the crew was not at fault which made this train master looking even more like a asshole. If any traim master out there read this, don't fill young guys like me heads full of shit about how you don't won't fire us. Because we all know yall are full of pure shit.

Name: L & N Trainman E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 14 May 2010 have been hearing around my yard that since the L&N voted the new agreement down and i do mean really voted it down that CSX is trying to take jobs away from Nashville, Birmingham, and Louisville and give them to Chattanoga (can't spell it) as some sort of punishment for the NO vote. Anyone else heard of this and if so what is going on?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 May 2010 Drop a few pounds!

Name: me,me,me E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 May 2010 i was at the redi center taking the refresher course and i came off the ladder.... and i have to go back in 28 days to do this again does anyone have any advice to help me to train and to pass this once more??? thanks in advance to all that helped

Name: LMAO! E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 May 2010 Thanks for the link to Marcus Calhoun McCants facebook page. NOMO son is friends with him! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: jsmith E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 May 2010 These contracts get passed because the Union is in bed with the RR, I wish we could get rid of these Unions and start are own. We would be better off being represented by our own people and just hope they dont get greedy and get bought by the RR. On another note, Please check your wheels on your locomotives before departing. I work at a engine house and know through other people that wheel reports have been doctored, meaning changed to look like they are good just so they can outshop the unit. If you dont know how to gage wheels go on the Domino site on the gateway and read the Safe Job procedure or SMR and I am sure you can get a wheel gage from someone at a shop. If you wanna stick it to CSX look at your wheels on every unit in the consist. I have changed all the traction motors on unit because it derailed. That unit had no buisness being on the rail. I wish I had thought to write down the unit number but I didnt. Please check your wheels, supervisors will run units with bad wheels. I found some bad wheels oneday and the supervisor wouldnt have them cut and said the unit didnt come in the shop for that so we are not cutting them or replacing them. I had a supervisor want me to read a wheel with a hand gage because the electronic gage said it was out of spec. He was trying to get me to say the wheel was okay and I wouldnt do it. On another ocassion I was told to go and qualify some bolster pads and if I didnt pass them he was. Needless to say I didnt qualify them and they dont ask me to do much anymore because they know I wont sign it off to go back on the road unless its right. Alot of the othe rmachinist will do things for them such as sign off on stuff that aint fixed or hasnt been fixed. I have thought about going to the News and newspaper and squeal like a pig on there safety practices, things that I have seen and seen done by others. Its hard to stop this kind of thing and get someone important to take notice and do something about it. All this lobbying by CSX is one problem, who is gonna step on there toes when there pockets are getting padded.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 May 2010 Speaking of Baltimore, how's ol' Traimaster Will Blanchetti doing?

Name: Danny Lash E-mail: Tobykieth@yahoo.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 May 2010 Baltimore terminal sucks ass!!!!

Name: me E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 06 May 2010 when does the montgomery a.w.p get paid next? and do they paid every week or every two weeks? getting transferd there and would like to know so i can see when and how to pay my bills ....thanks in advance....and what is the conductor gurantee pay ??

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 May 2010 Does anyone know if this McCant guy or whoever he is, has sex with his rule book? This man was a real piece of work and needs to get a life instead of pointing out the most minor of things wrong. I see now that management only points out what is wrong instead of pats on the back. Good greif this asshole is a real piece of shit

Name: Be happy in your work E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 May 2010 Did you know that=== Todd Novak ===is planing to come back to work , at collinwood yard . this skum bag was the BLE treasurer in cleveland ,and was convited for stealing money from his brothers and union people . He stated all he was doing was using for a while and planed to pay it back . sounds like every other embeleser , i would like to see what union local is going to take him back ????? do not let ====Todd Novak=== back !!!!!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 May 2010 What is going on in Selkirk?

Name: Sandy E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 29 April 2010 This is a very serious state of affairs. Isn't anyone overseeing what is going on in the Selkirk area?

Name: jsmith E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 28 April 2010 I posted some info on here about several employee having to testify in front of the Federal Grand jury a week or so ago about the harassament and intimidation of injured employee. I have heard several indictments were handed down on CSX, I have looked several times on here to see if there was any response to the info I posted but there wasnt. I figured you guys would be happy about some info like this. In 2008 in Waycross every manager had been fired, demoted or told they had to go somewhere else. They were caught signing off work packets and working on locomotives in the ready field(doing 92 day work), so in other words there were bribing employees with overtime pay to sign off the work. An employee was injured and they let him sit in the safety office for almost a year without reporting his injury, threatened to fire him if he reported, allowed other employees to harrass him and they would not let him go in the office without an escort. They sent Chuck Arwood to take over for the plant manager they fired. Chuck would hide in the parking lot trying to catch people leaving early, he would also try to enter peoples vehicles. Ethics was called, someone came and took the DVR storage device for the video cameras because Chuck was caught on it pulling on door handels of employees vehicles. There were alot of injuries after Chuck took over, one person was fired because he put the worng date on the injury report and his friend lied and said he didnt fall, The guy had to have a disc replaced. CSX is a bad place to work, I suggest we the employee's hold them accountable by filing complaints and lawsuits. We need to keep a close eye on management and document everything and start standing up to them. Someone posted some information about the RCO operator that was killed on the CSX message board on Yahoo finance and it was removed.

Name: who E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 April 2010 where does the Montgomery awp run ?

Name: jsmith45 E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 April 2010 Several employees from Waycross had to testify in front of a Federal Grand jury two weeks ago. I believe some indictments were handed down on CSX. All this stems to the harassment and intimidation of injured employees. One was fired a while back because he put the wrong date on the injury report and the witness was at fault for his injury and he lied on the poor guy to save his job. I think the guy that got hurt had to have a disc replaced in his back. I hope CSX gets what they deserve from the grand jury.

Name: Joe Shit the Ragman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years Posted: 11 April 2010 Damn near finally free of this company after 34 years. There were some really good people I worked with over the years and some real assholes . To the good guys , I'm gonna miss you all. To the Assholes ....For your sake I hope I never run into y'all again . I dont like jail HAHAHAHA

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 April 2010 Pop's Great to hear from you. I was officially retired on Mar 4th got my first full retirement check yesterday. It's still fresh and hasn't sunk in, but it will. I just got back from visiting friends in the mountians no stress drove in the right hand lane pissing people off because I wasn't in a hurry. That was one noticable change while working you knew time off was limited an every minute counted. Not anymore. Couldn't of asked for a better day yesterday driving it was in the '80s the Blue Ridge & Alleghany mountians were beautiful. People always ask "What are you going to do with yourself" the answer "Anything I want!!!". I plan on doing some volunteer work with the county a few times a week. I'm going to take the next year and scout around for a retirement location hopefully I'll find my log cabin nestled in the Appalachians or Smokey Mountians. Life is good. Sonny

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 April 2010 The last of the furloughed in Louisville have been called back. Also, 13 cut-backs have been marked back up to Engineer. Progress?

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 April 2010 Hey HTL: Doing great...glad to hear life is treating you well. Spend some of that 401K on some more clothes and you won't have to waste precious time packing and unpacking...just straight to the shuffleboard, golf and gin games. You mentioned road rage and always being in a rush to get someplace. It occurred to me the other day as I sat stopped waiting on a funeral procession to pass; that we spend our entire lives trying to get somewhere. We are constantly stopped by traffic, weather, accidents, stop light etc. Then, when you're in no rush at all, you get a police escort out of town during the lunch hour. The trip to the graveyard takes you 15 minutes instead of an hour. It makes me think they're ready do get rid of you...or is just me? Hope you didn't get flooded out...sump pumps don't work unless there's electricity, just ask the folks in Fairfield County, CT!

Name: ht long E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years Posted: 01 April 2010 sonny, wow your are hanging up your work boots for good! glad to hear that. I am getting packed and will venture north for summer soon. in a few months you wont even think about the RR and if you do you will be amazed at how you lived that life for decades???? the few warnings about retirement are, dont sit idle make sure you do something everyday no matter how trivial it is. you will find out that friends & family will keep you busy account of they think hey he is retired and has all the time in the world also the excuse for not doing things because you might have to go to work is out the window and you must face yourself with do I want to do this or not? this is what drives me the most ...all those years of blaming the RR are gone. when you meet new friends and are asked to meet at a certain day or time....you can say SURE WHY NOT!!!! once you get used to a "normal" life you will find yourself with no road rage when driving because you dont have to be anywhere on time anymore. last but not least dont be cheap....spend your money on you!!!! its your time, did you expect a 401k when you hired out? hell no spend it ,enjoy it ,before you are to old and need the money for walkers. I have to go pack.......well maybe I'll start tomorrow.....or the next day.......IAM RETIRED...I DO THINGS WHEN I WANT TOO! how ya doin NOMO!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 31 March 2010 Hey Wasted: You talk a good game but if you work for CSX in the end you still pay your dues!

Name: wasted my time with the unions E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 March 2010 Man—every man—is an end in himself, not a means to the ends of others; he must live for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others nor sacrificing others to himself; he must work for his rational self-interest, with the achievement of his own happiness as the highest moral purpose of his life. Once you union morons understand this, you will move on with your lives. Till then, you will praise Obama, the democrats, and others, that demean you and your being by accepting the scraps they give you. Michael Ward understands that! Honor is self-esteem made visible in action. I am a man who does not exist for others. Solidarty my ass!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 March 2010 NoMo Smith Mountian Lake is expensive seeing it's a couple hours from DC. All those congressmen can afford it seeing they gave themselves a $23,000 raise this year while denying those on social security a COLA adjustment. Even a vacation trailer up there runs around $90,000 if you can find one. I'm glad three people I know already have places and one has a 32' boat he keeps on the lake. When I head down south I'll get your info to stop in to tip a few.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 March 2010 Hey RRJ: Funny you mentioned Smith Mountain Lake...I saw something on TV the other night about it...looks relaxing but the property (houses) was expensive. I guess if you're a government employee or lobbyist you can afford it. Make sure you stop by Mobile on your way to/from Florida and we'll lift a few. The reason the RR retirees are so happy is because they lived long enough to enjoy the fruits of their labors!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 March 2010 NoMo The grandkids live in Northern California. I need to spend sometime with them without their mother. Last visit she was the pain. In a few years when their 5 & 7 I'll take them down to Disneyland. This year I'd like to get them further up north out of the bay area to see the groves of giant Redwoods. Very impressive. City kids remind me of a toy commercial a few years ago about a little boy at a petting zoo the little city kid goes up to a goat and says "Here doggie". My son he was born and raised in the bay area and has never really ventured far from home. For me it's nice to visit but to claustraphobic. As far as the railroad it is different being on the outside looking in. Once your on the outside you're quickly forgotten. That's the way it is. Nice part retirees hang out together. Can't wait to get everything settled with recieving my annuity payments great group of guys they do a lot of traveling down to Florida, a few have condos up in Smith Mountian Lake ect...they have all reassured me there is life after the railroad. I've never seen a happier bunch of railroaders.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 March 2010 Hey RRJ: Your grandchildren are 3 and 5...it might be time for a visit! Do they live in CA? They're about the right age for Disneyland, provided of course that Mom and Dad come along for the heavy lifting. In the 8 months you were out, you've had a view from the outside in. It's certainly a different view isn't it? The longer you're gone the broader the view gets. I don't know if it's the RR or the outside but one of them is alien. One day, if it hasn't already happened, you'll be stopped at a RR crossing waving at the engineer as he goes by thinking about how lucky he is to have that job...then the train will clear and the gates will go up and you drive off sipping your beer wondering why you had that thought. Deja vu!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 March 2010 NoMo Passing the buck has always been PC. I'm not worried about the unions this new generation told me their going to make change. We have a new generation that is use to seeing the elderly warehoused in retirement facilities or assisted living. Going to see grandpa & grandma has a whole different meaning. They have no respect because society created a monster. They have no need for advise from those who have endured and graduated thru the school of hard knocks. They curse an embrace technology at the same time. It's got to be confusing. Which is obvious seeing they lay blame on others for technological advances that have led to terminating jobs but can't live without their ipods, iphones, lap tops ect.... Even though they weren't around when most of it happened. They dispise that the unions got protection agreements for those who were adversely affected by change in the '80s & n'90s then cry that the union doesn't do anything. Why should I care? I keep trying to answer that question. I guess retirement hasn't settled in with me yet. Hopefully I'll be like Pop's and just fade away.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 March 2010 Hey RRJ: People seem to forget that this shit has been going on for years but overlook it as long as it doesn't adversely affect them. Then when the time comes to pay the piper, they want to bitch and groan about it and demand action...but they want someone else to do it. The UTU, BLEt and for that matter the rest of them are no different. The membership looks at them as necessary evils, the cost of opportunity. I'm afraid organized labor has over reached the tipping point. The golden era of labor unions and represented workers in this country has been on the decline since the 70's and is now long gone!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 March 2010 CSX sucks so does the UP, BNSF, NS ect...all the railroads have people furloughed. In fact the UP has twice as many people furloughed than any other railroad. Why not blame Wall Street or the bankers they were the culprits responsible for bringing down the economy. Why not blame a congress that refused to regulate the banking system or the SEC for not doing their job monitoring illegal activities. There were people that warned the goverment and regultory agencies about a collapse it was ignored.

Name: furloughed cubbie E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 March 2010 going on month 14 of being furloughed and CSX still sucks

Name: Southwest airlines E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 10 March 2010 Hand scanner? Talk to an aircraft mechanic and get some skydrol. Put it on your hand then scan. Let the skydrol do its trick.

Name: steve E-mail: hmstoo@hotmail Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 March 2010 Hey Skippi! I started with CSX in the 70s and quit in the 90s. Retirement age was changed when Regan was in office. I wasn't eligible for full benefits until I was 66 & 9 months.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 March 2010 anybody figured out how to beat the hand scanner yet???

Name: Freddie Krueger E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 04 March 2010 One more Spencer to go, then I will really celebrate....

Name: Jesus Nomo E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 02 March 2010 LOL! Nomo said this....... Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 February 2010 Hey Con 1-10: Lets get one thing straight...first I'm not your buddy. Secondly, at 28 your not old enough to know the difference between shit and shinola. If you've been in furlough status for four years, why would you hang around the crew room and make yourself mad by watching the old heads tally their earning statements? Or better yet, why haven't you taken a transfer...I'm sure they have been offered. Why are the "young guys" suffering to feed their family? Perhaps you can favor all of us by telling us what kind of trucks they drive and how they live. The old heads can drive those trucks because their families are grown and hopefully off their dole, their houses are paid for. Their expenses are less than a young man with a family. Life is full of choices...you can save and invest money now or you can spend it on impressing your friends. Make the wrong choice now and you'll regret it later. Any one under 30 has never seen truly tough times. Times are tough and will get tougher before they get better, sounds like the regrets are starting. By the way, I have a '01 GMC Yukon and a '99 MB ML450 and the money I've saved on notes, insurance and tags will pay for a nice extended family vacation in Europe this summer or buy one of my Grandchildren a P.A.C.T. contract which will pay for their college education. Like I said, it's their money and they can spend it however they want to. If they are suffering however, do you think it might be because of the choices they made? What he failed to add is that he is full of shit and that he was selling his furniture to his step son not that long ago. The step son that still works for railroad.

Name: rel'd women of B'ham E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 March 2010 Great news everyone, yeah!!!!!yeah!!!!!!heah!!!!! Danny Spencer has been fired as a CSX officer, the days of fucking with peoples wifes, chickenshit failures, lying to everyone, stepping on toes has finally caught up with old Danny. Too bad he did'nt get fired completely. Would have been nice to have seen his seniority taken away so he could see what it feels like to be on the other end of things for a change. Ever heard of 'Karma' Danny? well you finally got yours.

Name: averagejoe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2010 still furloughed cubby your probalby right about hearing about csx starting to hire again while they have people furloughed. the union does nothing about it though becuase once you are hired you have to join the union or face bieng fired so yes i have said it once and will say it again the union cares for itself as long as they get thier dues they dont care where it comes from csx can hire and furlough as much as they want as long as a certian number of each respective union members are forced to pay dues the unions dont care just like the company as long as they get thiers. people bitch about csx and god knows i do too i dont even work their used to be a dream but i am a very astute young man and after carefull reading i came up with what i just said. as long as the unions get thiers what the hell ever to the members now im not saying do away with the unions im just saying as long as there is enough members in service for the unions to still be profitable there will be no change for the better of the working class men, no strikes, no arguments hell it seems like anymore you feel lucky to have the chance to sacrafice a finger to save a arm so i ask all of you is that the meaning of a union give them a little to sacrafice livelyhood what happens when we run out of fingers then they take the arm and we feel lucky they didnt take the other arm guys there isnt an end im not asking for answers just trying to see if you can see where im coming from im likel the control i look on from the outside read the contracts and weigh the options and the options are as i just stated

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2010 With regard to the post by the furloughed cubby concerning the phone calls he made to Jacksonville and the conflicting answers he received. I am assuming he spoke with representatives from the same dept., probably CMC. The answers he got speak volumes to CSX's lack of leadership. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. This holds true for intradepartmental as well interdepartmental communication and coordination. CSX preaches teamwork but doesn't practice it...lead by example!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 February 2010 still furloughed cubby Good Luck. I do believe there was a post on here about those let go while in training. That the UTU agreed to it for the purpose that if you went the distance by completing training CSX could of terminated your employment because you would of been under a 60 day probation period not having union protection. One issue that is VERY IMPORTANT those let go keep in contact with CSX every 6 months with a current phone number an address. The contact information with CSX even applies to those furloughed.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 20 February 2010 Please Read if cut back or flowed back Open enrollment begins November 1 for BLET Short Term Disability plan CLEVELAND, November 2 — Open Enrollment for 2010 under the BLET’s Short Term Disability insurance begins on November 1, 2009, and runs through December 15, 2009. If you are a locomotive engineer working on a railroad that participated in the Wage Rules portion of the national agreement dated December 16, 2003, your coverage under Part A (described below) of the BLET Short Term Disability Plan will automatically continue. Last year, if you opted out of Part B coverage (also described below), then you can opt back in during this enrollment period. If you currently participate and wish to opt out of Part B coverage, you can also do so during this enrollment period. Part A — Non-Occupational Disabilities Effective January 1, 2010, there will be no changes to Part A coverage: • Your eligibility and $40 premium is submitted by the railroad on a monthly basis. • Part A pays $402 per week for non-occupational disabilities only. • Occupational disabilities are not covered. • Each eligible member is insured for $50,000 of Accidental Death and Dismemberment (AD&D) coverage. Part B – Occupational Disabilities Effective January 1, 2010 there will be no changes to Part B coverage: • Part B is voluntary. Participation in this additional occupational coverage is not required. • The weekly benefit for occupational disabilities is $402 per week. • Each eligible member is insured for $50,000 of AD&D coverage. • The benefit is not subject to repayment upon receipt of a FELA settlement (no repayment after a personal injury settlement). • The benefit is not considered taxable income. • The cost is $23 per month and will be payroll deducted with your monthly union dues. NOTE: UTU members working as engineers are eligible for Part A and may purchase Part B coverage by making an annual payment of $276 to the BLET Trust Fund. ************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** IMPORTANT: • Eligibility for Part B is dependent on your eligibility for Part A. In order to be eligible for Part A, you must have** ****seven starts in a month with one start as an engineer.************ If you are furloughed to train service and become ineligible for Part A coverage, you must notify the Secretary-Treasurer of your local division immediately. At that time, you have three options: 1. Continue coverage of Part A and Part B by paying $40 directly to the BLET Trust Fund by the 10th of the month and continuing payroll deduction of $23 for Part B. Coverage may only be continued for six months under this option. If you choose this option, you will need to contact the Plan Administrator (information below) for additional instructions. 2. Discontinue coverage of Part B temporarily until you return to engineer status and become eligible for Part A. An engineer, who loses Part A coverage due to no fault of his own, may resume coverage for Part B once he returns to engineer status and becomes eligible for Part A. You must keep the Secretary-Treasurer of you local division informed of your status. 3. OPT-OUT of Part B by completing an OPT-OUT form. If you choose to opt-out of Part B, you may only resume coverage during a subsequent annual enrollment period. If you currently do NOT participate and choose to do nothing, you will continue to be only eligible for Part A coverage. • If you currently do NOT participate and would like to sign-up for Part B coverage during this open enrollment period, or if you do currently participate and would like to opt-out of Part B coverage, you must notify the Secretary-Treasurer of your local division by completing and returning the attached form by December 15, 2009. Your election will become effective on January 1, 2010. • Members who OPT-OUT of Part B coverage effective January 1, 2010, will not be eligible to enroll for the coverage until the next annual enrollment period. Anyone with questions can contact Jim Bradford, BLET Short Term Disability Administrator, at (216) 241-2630, ext. 205, or email: Bradford @ble-t.org. A copy of the opt-in/opt-out form is available below: http://www.ble-t.org/pr/pdf/STD-opt-inout.pdf d if cut-back or flowed-back

Name: still furloughed cubby E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 February 2010 everybody on furlough board is called back and yet me and the rest of the cubs have not been called. Called J-ville and lady told me it would be next year and another said any day. Do the folks in j-ville not know what is going on? Rumor also has it they are going to start hiring again which i assure you i would file a lawsuit if i am not called back before then. Wow what a company i walked into. CSX rocks!!!!! yea!!!!!!

Name: moving E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 February 2010 i being transfed to baltimore in the next 2 weeks does anyone have any advice, or know anything about baltimore work conditions? PLEASE help ...........

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 February 2010 It's Mardi Gras day...time for the coup de grâce! Before we get started a little Dr. John to put us in the mood! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JESFMO1Hl4M Laissez les bons temps rouler...let the goods times roll!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 February 2010 PEOPLE HAVE TO START VOTING PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 February 2010 hey loco 30+ plus years you are right about the ns contract . CSX wants this bid system bad , if we vote this down they will want to go back to the table . The younger men need to realize the bid system will cut 10% of the work force , so back on the street you go.

Name: me E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 February 2010 just got the call to move to baltimore from florida panhandle is b-more working or being sent home ? please let me know i will be moving my wife and five kids to a new place and i need to be working...thanks in advance............

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 February 2010 NoMo you are 100% correct.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 February 2010 That's right No Mo if u make over your guarantee . Last half I did beat my guarantee but this half I'm not , so if this contact passes and I need off for a emergency I loose my Guarentee. Plus a 6% pay raise over a 5 year period that starts 2012 ; if u get in trouble (not only stayin marked up) you loose your stocks ! We don't even get a bonus until 2013 !!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 February 2010 Worry more about your ability to earn. I swear I've never heard more BS about having a life than this new generation. What the heck were you people thinking when you hired on the railroad? DUHHHHHH!!! Didn't they forwarn you in advance at the hiring session that if you want a life walk out the door. That you'll be on call 24/7 that you'll work holidays you'll miss out on family activities ect...They were saying the same thing 32 years ago when I hired out. If you think it's going to change it's not. Once the UTU gets in the bid system it's worse no more floating 48 hours when getting bumped no more taking an extra couple days on vacation you'll already be assigned to a job. The past 3-4 months at the union meetings people were complaining about business being slow people being cut back people being furloughed now that everyone is marked back up business is good their complaining about working to much. Go figure!!

Name: JoshuaRogers E-mail: kayakguy303@yahoo.com Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 February 2010 Vote the contract down! If you want a life Vote it DOWN!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 February 2010 I went to work for CSX approx 4 years ago.I paid $5000.00 plus room and board for schooling, lost wages for 6 weeks.All in all it cost me $10,000 plus for a job that wasn't worth squat. Quit a job I have been at 15 plus years for what. To be told I will be treated like a person with good pay and benifits! Hah! Laid off twice in the 2 years I was there, couldn't even get railroad unemployment the first year I was there as I wasn't there long enough. Was continually denied valid claims of labor agreements by them, denied my first year vacation pay. Safety was a joke, working two shifts in one day, continually being forced to do things because of producing what they want. I hardly ever called of work but employees that did were taken care of. Intimidated when I spoke up and voiced my rights. If you believe anything they tell you you will be sorry. Worst 2 years of my employment life.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year Posted: 23 January 2010 I just want to ask a question and get some answers from guys who have worked for CSX as a trainman in regards to those men who were suspended during their on the job training. Is CSX required to call those men back or can they start again with hiring back off the streets, and would it not benefit CSX to come along with a buyout for those employees who are under a protected status and get the majority of those furloughed and suspended back. Does CSX not care about their public image especially when men were suspended during trainning.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 January 2010 Name: slim E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 January 2010 How long does the company have to file charges against you for a violation let use an example here ;] attendance polcy if i layed off for a couple weeks then was furloughed can i still be invesgated after being called back or do they only have a certain amount of time to charge me ive allways wondered about this To this CO. You can be Re-called into servisce and be charged with the attendance policy, depending on your Terminial Manager. I know a guy that was charged for a lost radio 5 years after he was issued a replacement .. ALL depends on which shithole you work at .. snd your shithead Trainmaste UNlikely but possible

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years Posted: 20 January 2010 CSX Insiders Avenue STOCK ANALYSIS REPORT Analysis by Internal Employees – January 19, 2010 http://www.csx-sucks.com Industry: Railroad Sector: Transportation Recommendation: Sell NEVER BUY Price: NA Target Price: Always Sell Short to make Money 52 Week Low-High: Fundamentals Grade: B Investment Style: RISKY Consider Buying: When Ingram’s Lawsuits are settled several years in the future, a complete wash out of the current Nazi Group and just before another Railroad can take over.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 January 2010 Kiss my hairy snow white fat ass..here is a lie in writing! CSX Announces Fourth Quarter and Full-Year 2009 Earnings JACKSONVILLE, Fla., Jan 19, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Highlights: •Fourth quarter EPS from continuing operations of 77 cents •Continued strong safety, service and productivity •Full-year operating ratio of 74.7 percent CSX Corporation (NYSE: CSX) today announced fourth quarter earnings from continuing operations of $305 million, or 77 cents a share, versus $361 million, or 92 cents a share, in the same period last year. Fourth quarter revenue of $2.3 billion was 13 percent down from the prior year. This was driven by a 7 percent overall decline in volume as growth in the intermodal and automotive sectors was more than offset by declines in coal and merchandise. In addition, lower fuel prices led to decreased fuel surcharge recovery. Despite these factors, core pricing remained strong, reflecting high service levels and the overall value of freight rail transportation. Total operating expense for the quarter was $1.7 billion, down 12 percent from the prior year. These savings, driven primarily by strong safety, service and productivity, contributed to operating income of $583 million for the quarter. "The economy continued to show modest, sequential improvement in the quarter," said Michael J. Ward, chairman, president and chief executive officer. "CSX worked aggressively on gaining operating leverage and further strengthening the fundamentals of our business for the future." CSX also announced full year 2009 earnings from continuing operations of $1.14 billion, or $2.87 a share, versus $1.5 billion, or $3.66 a share, for 2008. The company continued to improve its network efficiency and safety in 2009, while reducing full-year operating costs by 20 percent compared to 2008. As a result, CSX posted a record annual operating ratio of 74.7 percent. "In 2009, CSX put forth a decisive and effective response to the challenging economy while simultaneously building for the future," said Ward. "Our performance is a clear demonstration of the resolve of our organization and the talents of our people." CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is a leading transportation company providing rail, intermodal and rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network spans approximately 21,000 miles with service to 23 eastern states and the District of Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river and lake ports. This earnings announcement, as well as a package of detailed financial information, is contained in the CSX Quarterly Financial Report available on the company's website at http://investors.csx.com in the Investors section and on Form 8-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission ("SEC"). 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Name: Jsmith E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 19 January 2010 I am in the process of writing a book about CSX and there so called safety policy, the harassment and intimidation and all the horror stories of how they have treated employees. If you guys want to share your stories feel free to email me at jsmith14449@yahoo.com. I only want true stories, not hear say or rumors. Need to be factual information. I promise you your name will not be mentioned anywhere,You dont even have to leave your name. If you setup a private email all I ask is that you check it later on to see If I contacted you with any questions. I wonder how much trouble I will get in by writing the book, I really dont care they can sue me if they want I dont have anything to lose, I had to have surgery and a month later they fired me. Please Email with your stories of this stinking company

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 January 2010 Obama is a good Man. Going to cover 30 40 or so million folks that have no health care. Now I wonder how healthy these folks are? Have pr existing conditions? most likely, and no income or resources. Yep we get to pay up. Change , You got it. You folks are going to chringe when your health care bill comes.I admit I have a nice one, but it is now 12k per year for 2 people. 15 years ago it was $325.00 per month Now it is $1000.00. No way out, they got me.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 January 2010 "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." Yea, you reckon the UTU will put the little Obama update icon back up on the website after the AFL-CIO gets told "Tough shit" when they pull their pants back up after meeting with God today to discuss taxing the insurance plans?. Gotta love it. If you have a friend that is true to you, screw your friend before he screws you!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 January 2010 Hey Lloyd; The UTU opens negotiations on Feb.10. I hope I'm wrong but when it's all said and done, I would look for big increases in health care premiums, co-pays and deductibles; minuscule pay increases and substantial work rule changes. Of course the carriers will give some but the membership will bear the brunt. As for those furloughed, if the article is right, some of those men will never be recalled...even if the guaranteed extra boards went away the carriers still won't want to pay for health care. It's cheaper to pay overtime than hire extra manpower. Factor in the ongoing mortgage crisis, a pending commercial real estate crisis and the fact that the Chinese economy has yet to feel the economic down turn and is continuing to grow at an astounding rate of 8% per year; it does indeed look grim!

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 January 2010 That is some pretty grim news coming from a news source that is pretty liberal and should be upbeat about our economy. You know when you hear bad news from msnbc about our future thats not a good sign. What makes me so sick to my stomach though is that this trend never stops. We really all would be fucked without a union though. They do some shitty things and a lot of them are highly incompetent, but without them we wouldnt have any room for bargaining.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 January 2010 The future of employment in America... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34769831/ns/business-careers//

Name: retired E-mail: georgia Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 10 January 2010 I have no reason to lie about mine and my wifes;retirement I paid in full retirement in my last 10 years of work so I should be drawing the max. my wife never worked other than keeping our children and other kids also never charged anything for doing this she looks after our grandkids now. It still takes a lot to get by. she had open heart surgery three months ago the united health insurance paid over $100,00.00 I was billed for over $15,000.00 trying to negoiate this down so far no luck.If the r.r. retirement is making a mistake in ou r\retirements I am glad will have nothling else to say about this.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 January 2010 He draws $5840 a month. The spouse makes their choice at age 60 between collecting a pension off railroad retirement or social security. They can not collect both. Railroad retirement is comprised of two entities Tier I and Tier II. Tier I is a company pension Tier II is similiar to social security.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 January 2010 Name: retired E-mail: georgia Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 07 January 2010 I have been retired two years to the person who is so much interested in r.r. retirement I can give you a fact my retirement is $3,980 a month and my wife gets $1860.00 dollars a month out of this her insurance is over $800.00 a month I have none just on medicare and medicaid. never had go to a dr. in 15 years but my wife uses her every week. out of our retirement we do have to pay taxes like everyone else.If I die before my wife then her retirement will be raised to where mine is now to $3,980 this came into effect in the last few years.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Interesting, $3980.00 is reasonable for a go getter with 30+ however where does the $1860.00 come from? She must be a doc, or has her own program. RRB will not pay that much on $3980.00. Bet she is Rail also and qualifies for her own, as opposed to part of his. Sounds like after 15 he would take a little fishing time off and go visit the doc to protect this????? I think he is saying $5840.00 per -$70k In all reality I think the$1860.00 is a part of the $3980.00 that my friends is $2120.00 and a big second employed wife.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 January 2010 WOW nice post You got it. The key was Average. That was all I said. Works the same with SS ---Average means 49% are lower and 49% are higher. Or close to that???? Work more= pay more= get more. Railroad Retirement is the best pay ing retirement many folks will ever see, it also is the most expensive. SS cost much less, and pays the same as RR per dollar invested.(less in Less out) That is why a defined benefit plan in liew of Union dues is a good idea.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 January 2010 Railroad retirement is based on earnings. If a person worked aggressively over the years it increases. One thing you left out was the yearly income used to calculate that amount in the RRB example. The fact is it was just an example. I do know one or two people who collect $2600-$2800 a month they worked the yard their entire carreer 5 days a week avoided overtime never worked over on to another shift ect...Most people I know within 5-10 years of retirement work more to increase the rate. About 7 years ago someone for RRB came down to work offered to run a work sheet of our compensation for disability payments majority of those who had it done averaged $2900 a month which was based on less than 30 years service. 95% of my carreer has been road service. I already know what my monthly income on disability will be which doesn't include 2009 wages and earnings. The 2009 earning won't be figured in till July seeing RRB runs on a fiscal year. On the spread sheet for past years earnings it takes in to consideration what they would be worth in the present economy. That too is a factor in determining retirement payments. Example: 1989 earnings of $40,000 might be worth $65,000 in todays economy. There are several factors in determining retirement compensation. It's not one figure across the board every person is different based on years of service and earnings.

Name: retired E-mail: georgia Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 07 January 2010 I have been retired two years to the person who is so much interested in r.r. retirement I can give you a fact my retirement is $3,980 a month and my wife gets $1860.00 dollars a month out of this her insurance is over $800.00 a month I have none just on medicare and medicaid. never had go to a dr. in 15 years but my wife uses her every week. out of our retirement we do have to pay taxes like everyone else.If I die before my wife then her retirement will be raised to where mine is now to $3,980 this came into effect in the last few years.

Name: averagejoe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 January 2010 you know what i agree most people on the rr are related and loved ones do get hired over more qualified people i had 2 intervues 1 the shop forman and his bitch was there to hand pick the people for the supposed recruiter a nigger who looked down on me while hiring his masstas white kin folk the second time no formen or anything only recruiters got the job that was over a year ago and still no word it was really embarissing for the first 6 months or so explaining to people why i wasnt at the rr yet so yes they do hire family for jobs that are for sure but they dont give a hoot about the imaginary jobs or the ones they know pple will be laid off from shortly so unless you were military or have high pull if you get a job there my observation is your bieng played as a fool or fucked from the get go

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 January 2010 How do the average monthly railroad retirement and social security benefits paid to retired employees and spouses compare? The average age annuity being paid by the Railroad Retirement Board (RRB) at the end of fiscal year 2008 to career rail employees was $2,510 a month, and for all retired rail employees the average was $1,980. The average age retirement benefit being paid under social security was over $1,085 a month. Spouse benefits averaged $740 a month under railroad retirement compared to $520 under social security. The Railroad Retirement Act also provides supplemental railroad retirement annuities of between $23 and $43 a month, which are payable to employees who retire directly from the rail industry with 25 or more years of service.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Above are the facts from RRRB. Guess I may have been off $10.00 My only point was that if possible to get a defined benefit plan along with RR it is a bonus.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 04 January 2010 Goob You've been away from the railroad for a long time. I can assure you our retirement pays a lot more than $2500 a month. In fact it pays a lot more than that for just an individual add in a spouse it goes up around 50% more. There you go again with your anti-union retoric.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 03 January 2010 When the folks give a little the CSX will give a bunch. Nothing better than a non union RR. You will have as an Engineer, Conductor 2 retirement programs. Better than one. Simple addition 3k per month plus 2k- 5k which is much more than those collecting now. Average retired RR employee draws. $2500.00 per month

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 January 2010 spongeboob Reread my post. It's good advise. If one can't adapt then they'll fail. We definitely don't go out of my way to get the work done, We let CSX tell us how they would like it done. A big difference. It's a job CSX is our employer it doesn't get any simpler than that. One gaurentee is those oldheads you critise have forgotten more about railroading then you'll ever know. We would love nothing better than to go back to the way it was which you know nothing about. True empowerment. No one looking over your shoulder or spying on you with binoculars. We got our paperwork and that train was ours. With micro management those TM's are instructed to do there job by higher ups. You state oldheads talk to the TM's when they show up. Why not? In most cases they come to us for advise seeing most of them weren't even born when we hired out. A lot of times they go to oldheads to fix the problems created by those with little or no experience or maybe someone with an attitude who thinks there screwing over CSX. If the union isn't willing to take action to alleviate the harrassment then people have to put up with it or find another job. I know of no oldhead who goes out of their way for an official. There are those young ones who think it creates browny points by going to the office being friendly not knowing their loose mouths have given info unwittingly to management that can be used. We've played the game a lot longer than you.

Name: spongebob E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 31 December 2009 Loco Eng for 30+ Spin it and twist it in your mind all you want buddy, I work with guys like you every day. Guys like you that have pride in their jobs at my termainal are the first ones to drop to their knees when Management walk in the door. Most other workers at CSX are sick of the Chicken shit failures, manpower shortages, unsafe conditions, and Harassment and intimidation by Management. That's why I stick it to the man every I get. Keep going above and beyond for CSX, see how much they appreciate your hard work the next time you fuck up and you get a charge letter for something chickenshit, maybe you'll have a little change of heart. It's Quite obvious you don't work at Avon Terminal, if you did you would have lost your pride a long time ago.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 31 December 2009 I look at myself in the mirror everyday with pride. I go to work give it 100% then go home safe. In 32+ years I've never considered myself a whore or union reps and management pimps. Sounds like you need a different line of work if it makes you feel that way. It's CSX's railroad we are hired to do a job and get paid pretty good for it. It doesn't matter if they want things done their way. Since micro management came on the railroad they've made me overtime, extra days pay, time claims ect...Why would anyone complain about it? If those of us who have been out here for 30+ years can adapt then anyone can. We've lost more than those who've only been out here starting in the mid '90s. The only imporatant issues are that everyone works safe looks out for their co-workers and goes home to their families intact. Other than that it's all just a thing. If you're frustrated you did it to yourself. Play their game.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 31 December 2009 If any of you believe your jobs are coming back, or new jobs will be created, your head is in the land of OZ. I personally don't and won't do anything for CSX unless I am expicitly told to do so. An example, I am told to walk to my engine and inspect it. Fine, No one can tell me how fast to walk. No one can tell me how to inspect my engine or the time limit to do it in. Paperwork? Broken pens, or the inspection forms not on the engine? I could care less. I call the yardie.......let him tell me where and how to get a pen or inspection forms. More time to relax. If I am relaxing, I can't get hurt. Oh, unless one of the many idiots that work here flat switch a car down into my track. Hard to believe but it does happen in this CSX yard. No, just don't care anymore. Don't care if I run out of time on single main track. Don't really care if I am late for work. Don't care if CSX doesn't pay me on time. My union guys will fix that for me. May take 2 to 3 years (without interest) but I'll get my money. Don't care that the radio has static when the dispatcher tries to call me. I don't move the train one inch until I fully understand what he or she wants. I am not allowed to use (and will not) my cell phone to move a train. I just wait X amount of time till the static on the radio stops. When I am stopped and a signal pops up.......I wait 2 or 3 minutes hopefully) to make sure it doesn't drop in front of me. I see a distant signal, I slow down, don't want that to drop on me either. It's just safer this way. Track speed 50mph.....45 is safer. Top restricted speed I operate at is 2 mph, which is very safe. CSX management should be proud of me, that I am sure of, because I haven't run thru any switches. All in all I like working here. Sure the hours are horrible,people show up for work late, in yesterdays clothes, smell like cigarettes teeth not brushed, but they are elite professionals. These elite professionals will show off to you and new hires by dispalying thier ignorance and stupidity of rules, regulations, and RR operations. But then my union reps or management will talk to the new hires and correct the problem,,,,,right? Well maybe the union or management talks to the elite professional and straightens him or her out. Yeah, thats what happens where I work. Never seen it personally, but "they" tell me it has happened. I feel safer when "they" tell me things like that. I am kinder to a stray dog, than to any union rep or CSX manager. I hold both in complete disgust and distrust. Both are liars, and thieves. What does the BLE do with my dues? Well in thier newsletters, complete with pictures, they are playing golf, in conference in Las Vegas, or discussing important union contracts at a nice resort location......so they can fully concentrate on the matters at hand. In closing, I,like many of you are nothing more than whores. CSX and the unions are the pimps. We get told how long to work. Where to work. How much we will get paid. How much longer am I going to be a whore? I don't know. I do know it is getting harder and harder to look at my self in the mirror. Are you brave enough to look in the mirror?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 December 2009 Merry Christmas to all my union brothers & sisters who just wanna go to work, do there job, get paid in a correct manner, and last but not least...not get hurt. December 24, 2009.......and CSX STILL SUCKS!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 25 December 2009 Hey Pensacola: I heard a Trainman, Marques Eakes was found dead in his garage in the last week or two. I have been unable to find anything in the Pensacola or Mobile papers about it, not even an obit. Any info?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 23 December 2009 All concerned: For The New Year...let us all focus on our union(s). Until we get a gripe on our union bosses we all will continue to fight and blame each other. Four of the last six (two from each union) international officers have been kicked-out-of-office representing themselves instead of the members they were entrusted to represent. Strong leadership, 100% rule compliance, and solidarity will always trump abuse. "FELA" is the operative word. The railroads worst "nightmare!" If you are force to do an unsafe act and injured in the process. FELA! If you suffer from sleep deprivation (common for railroaders) due to extreme working conditions. FELA! Sleep deprivation is caused by (see BLET August 09' Issue) cumulative trauma due to excessive lateral motion while riding trains. During these times, the greed of Corporate America (illegal immigration to control labor cost) is sinking our country and most of all, our families. So step-up to the plate and quit whining! Get involved in your union and start holding your union officers accountable!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 December 2009 Everyone settle down. The UTU and BLET are looking out for our best interest(s), they don't care about dues, they care about us! Without the support of these Unions we would be making $8.00 an hour. Think about it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 December 2009 furloughed cubbie I'll try to have a Merry Christmas and a Happy Hanukkah. You do the same. I don't think I did anything to offend you. In fact it was just the opposite. What CSX did to those in training was terrible. I've stated that fact several times on this site. In fact I was in one discussion a while back where others thought it was right to let cubs go if others were furloughed. My opinion which has never changed is those in training should of been allowed to complete it to establish seniority. The key element is establishing seniority. Something those in training were not allowed to do get promoted to conductor.

Name: Furloughed Cubbie E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 December 2009 to all you guys who have been giving advise and your sympathy....thank you and Merry Christmas...and to the so called guy with 30+ years....Happy Hanuka you rat bastard, you don't deserve a Merry Christmas

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 December 2009 Hey Loco 30+: Your kids are safe for the time being then:)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2009 NoMo Northern California was way out of reach. The cost was 4X compared to the east coast. I'm concentrating right now on Southwest Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky. I'll take up to a year to travel and find it. I don't want to wait to long. A person would be crazy not to get in while the housing markets still down and very affordable. Two friends retired and went back up north to Ohio and Michigan both bought houses at less than $50,000. Another friend he went to the mid-west bought a brick home 3 brm 2 bath for $55,000. Only prerequisite it has to in the country no more burb dwelling for me. The burbs are being flooded with city dwellers along with it comes their city ways they don't respect others privacy.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 December 2009 Hey Loco 30+: I think the conductor on road trains will be safe this go around but once PTC is operational, look out! You might be getting out just in time...safety is just a word...it sounds good and helps keep the insurance premiums down. It's just a matter of time before CSX or another carrier has a Bhopal disaster. Just imagine all the crow hoppin and fancy foot work after that! Greed is the bottom line...like Nike moving it's manufacturing operations to Asia because they said the cost of production would go down due to cheap labor. Good deal right...now my $100 Nikes will only cost $80. 95% of that saving went straight into management's pockets in the form of bonuses, the rest to the shareholders. The view of CSX and the unions changes a little from the outside, doesn't it? The further out you get, the more the view changes. Have you found a spot to light yet? You were talking about Northern California, is that still your plan?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2009 Lloyd With the UTU creation of the APE (All Purpose Employee) it has led us down a path of total craft extinction it caused to many problems. I say UTU creation because the 1994 crew consist opened the door for duel seniority forcing new hires into engine service. Then the UTU fought the BLE to dissolve the two crafts with the creation of the APE. If the UTU hadn't been hell bent on trying to take over the BLE we would still be afforded better protection. This has led to one nightmare after another an it continues. The railroads played their cards right letting the UTU make deals with the devil. The UTU cried victory while all along the devil was standing in the shadows sucking them dry to the point there was nothing left to bargain. It was so simple years ago BLE for engineers UTU for trainmen. We knew where we stood. Now we don't know anything. The BLE(T) is no better. They have screwed the membership by dividing our bargaining power with on-property contracts. Railroads like the UP which refuses to bargain with the BLE(T) for on-property contracts their members are going to be used as guiney pigs to pass legislation that will affect every railroad. I despised the BLE when they added the trainmen (T) to our name. Issues we fought against for keeping craft autonomy were thrown out the window when they capitulated and became no better then the UTU. The railroads win they aren't living up to contracts. The BLE(T) coward down with ignorant responses which are all the same our concerns will be brought up in dispute/resolution committee meeting with the carrier. My answer "blow me" you lame SOB's.

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2009 Your damn right loco 30. Greed. It's one of the biggest factors that lead to our country going into a depression and people losing their jobs. It's the only reason they want to make a one man crew. Any other reason is just a lie or a cover up. Less people working means more money for the stock holder and more money for the people running this dog and pony show. This is where the rubber meets the road though guys. What do you all think the UTU will do if they actually try to negotiate something with them? The only reason they would not call a strike at that point would be that they made a deal with the devil so I'd pay close attention to what goes on in the next five to ten years. There could be something proposed sooner but I can't see something like this happening without a huge fight. Unless most of the engineers were to take a huge bonus, completely turn their backs on the conductor craft, and look forward to long lonely nights on the tracks I just can't see this thing passing. Money talks and bullshit walks though. This would be such a great step for our economy though don't you all agree? More money for people who already have it and less jobs for people who need them. It's becoming the American way.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2009 NoMo It looks like it's going to get worse before better. The American Association of Railroads which represents the class 1's in legislative matters ect...is pushing hard this time around for the one man crew. They seem to even have the blessing of the FRA seeing they declined to get involved. Damn, I'm glad I'm getting out of the railroad I have one hurdle left to get my disability retirement. To many changes in the last 25 years. Starting with losing the caboose then it's been downhill with the continuios reduction of crew size. There has always been a percentage of those qualified as engineers that will not make it on their own. Every terminal in every state has engineers that can't stay awake much less run a train efficiently. I see disaster in the future if legislation is passed to allow engineer only freight trains. CSX has been promoting engineers at an alarming rate not caring if they actually know what their doing. In the past 5 years I've seen to many major rule violations that jeaprodise the safety and security of others including the general public. Everyone from the railroads, STB, FRA, unions, to Congress ect...talks of safety but in the end the bottom line is greed.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 December 2009 Do you realise how much time you spend at work for CSX without compensation? Think about your prep time you do not get paid for. Think about the time you have to report so you do not violate FRA Laws. Are we in an environment that encourges us to violate Federal Laws so we are not disiplined by CSX policies. How much time have they stolen from us. How much money does that add up to over the years. How about the busted calls? How much do we loose on that?

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 December 2009 Guaranteed Extra Boards = furloughs...guaranteed. I don't think the NS has guaranteed Extra Boards but because of the poor economy they probably have people furloughed to but I'm sure it's only a fraction of what CSX has furloughed. In talking to people I know there seems to be a consensus that a lot of the furloughed men will never be called back or at best, it may be several years before they are. Venting helps but in the end you have to turn your energy to things you can control...you have no control over the economy or the railroad, in fact, you have little control over anything in your life. Concentrate on those things you can control. In regard to the post several days ago about the Con that got missed called because he refused a job at an away from home terminal. In Mobile (L&N) we had a two hour calling window; you had to answer the phone from two hours before the shift's first job went on duty to the time that shift's last job went on duty. Other than that you were not required to answer the phone. The yard was also required to protect road jobs. If I recall correctly, If you were first out on the Trainmen's Board you were require to take the call even if it was for a yard job, unless you were protected. After Katrina, because of the guarantee, which I think was around $2400 even the protected men had to accept calls or lose their guarantee. It pays off to read and understand the contract and local agreements you work under and participate in the Local's meetings regardless of how bad the UTU is!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 December 2009 dad I'm glad my generation didn't have a venue like Csx-sucks. This just keeps emotions stirring instead of chalking it up as a life experience. It took around the 3rd year of furloughs to finally get it through my thick head to save for the down time. I an others of my generation preached to the new hires spend little save a lot the first years. Do not buy anything big like new cars (well maybe an affordable used car or a Hyundia or Kia) no new homes ect...It fell on deaf ears. This advise came with experience. My first year I was furloughed a lot due to a coal miners strike in 1977. After being called back to work in spring of 1978 went out and bought a new car. No one told me I'd be furloughed every winter lost that car by early winter 1979 turns out railroad unemployment didn't pay because I didn't have enough time working in 1977. I learned quickly when I got recalled back in spring of 1979. Furloughs after that were a lot easier it was being on a tight budget and savings helped. By late spring 1980 the bottom fell out in the north the auto industry went belly up so did a lot of railroad work. Today we are getting hit by all fronts auto, coal, manufacturing ect...everything has tanked. All one can hope for is that this country recovers in the near future and it doesn't linger on for years like the Great Depression which last over 10 years.

Name: dad E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 December 2009 To: Locomotive engineer for 30+ I'm not trying to start a pissin contest, and I never said you and others that hired out years ago, did'nt go through the same crap and more, all I'm saying is, if you had this forum 30 years ago,chances are you would have been right hear doing the same thing....bitchin. I, and I'm sure others feel that morale is an important aspect of doing business, but apparently csx see's things different, as evadent by the way they treat good employees. It sure would be nice if management would enter the human factor in, when they make their decisions.Happy employees make good employees, and good employee make more money for the company and in the end, themselves.But here I go again, thinking that csx is going to do the ethical thing, when they get the same end results by forcing employees into submission with threats on their living. I have seen no evedence of ethics at csx, and that is a real shame, It's not that hard to treat people like you would like to be treated,,,now where have I heard that before?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 December 2009 Dad Alright you opened up a can of worms. We went through furloughs just like what is happening today. That's right, you don't want to hear about it. Furloughs come with the job. At times I felt jealous of those who got hired and never had to go through hardships. I worked with several men who hired on at the right time in the early '80s when retirements were in full swing an it opened up slots. They never knew what it was like to juggle bills try and make ends meet when railroad unemployment only paid $25 a day. I've been there. In fact I transferred to another state leaving everything to keep working for the railroad. Don't tell me I don't know what it is like. Sure this a venue to let off steam. Then again people haven't a clue about how the railroad works. They can't keep people marked up if business has decreased. You people hired on with gaureteed extraboards my generation didn't have that luxory. It was feast or famine on the extra board. At times we collected unemployment while still marked up if we didn't get a minimun of 10 days. The unions got gaurenteed extra boards they also gave complete control to the railroads. There is a ratio to correspond to the number of jobs that is way low. Go to a union meeting take action to do away with gaurentees then it can be loaded up to the numbers we saw decades ago. If you're still working feel fortunate. In my area there are a few furloughs but the majority of those hired in the last 1- 1 1/2 years are still working. Some of those furloughed had the option to work other locations and chose not to. No sympathy there. If CSX offers transfers to other locations it gets critised. I wish in 1980 I had the benefits afforded with these transfers like 30 days lodging, meals, bonuses ect...we did it with nothing some of us using our last unemployment checks. Don't tell me I have no feeling for those furloughed.

Name: dad E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 December 2009 Hey engineer with 30+,this forum is good therapy for guy to let off steam, for whatever reason. It always amazes me how someone with lots of seniority bust new hires chops for bitchin about being treated like crap. They would appreciate your support, not your sarcasum.No one expects you to do anything.....just listen. We may not manufacture any cars, like the big auto makers, but I'll bet if we did'nt perform the services we do, it would have a lot bigger impact on the economy than a few sorry ass auto manufactures that are bailed out with tax payer hard earned money.As far as going to the media,I dont think the rule about talking about csx worries too many of these guy's. You have to have a job before you can loose one. Also, where I'm from it's not against the law to tell the truth.I would love to see enough of these new hires that were lied to, get together and bring a class action law suit againt csx for ruining their lives. No matter what you say, they were mislead. How can you blame a guy for being upset for being furloughed 4 times in 4 years, and thats not the worst thing about it, sometimes they are only brought back for a month or two, and cut off again, now thats what I call real crew management....give me a break, they just dont give a shit.....like me!!!!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 December 2009 CSX Blow You better read the rule books again. There is a rule that pertains to not discussing CSX business with the public. Create waves it'll be a definite termination. That's not good advise to give. That's twice in the past week it's been mentioned. The first was similiar something about why other people get layed off and it makes news. The reason we don't get mentioned it happens all the time. Some locations it's seasonal. We manufacture nothing so it isn't important to the public. Not like the auto industry when they start laying off or closing plants it's major headlines. I see you still have a grudge over paying to get your job. Don't you think it's time to get over it? That one puzzles me. No one put a gun to your head. Apparently you were grown up enough to make that decision and sign the papers. Lifes to short to carry grudges. This blame the oldhead bullschidt is getting old. Get over it. In a few years a few more retirements I can tell you'll end up just like those oldheads you like to critize. It comes with the territory. One big fact when you separate from the railroad wether it's quitting, terminated, furloughed, or retired people are forgotten. Once out of the loop it's over. It's just a job life goes on. It's all about doing the right thing for your family most importantly for yourself. Do the job to the best of your abilities. My last few years of working I gave it 100% like I always have the difference I followed their instructions which was screwed up because they didn't make sense. In the end it was job protection double switching respotting of industries ect...made a lot of unnecessary overtime but it was nice on pay day.

Name: CSX Blow E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 December 2009 You should contact your local newspaper of TV station and let them do a story on you guys. That would REALLY get something going right there. Some heads would start rolling. Personally, the best news I got ALL DAMN YEAR was when I read on the gateway that Tony Ingram is leaving the company on December 31st. I hope some things will change for the better as far as moral goes. This company could make SO much more money if their employees were happy. "Happy employee's are productive employee's". At this point in time I could give two shits less if a car gets delivered to a customer because last half I got screwed out of 3 days pay....

Name: Furloughed Cubbie E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 December 2009 thanks CSX Blows, i do keep in close contact with almost all of the other cubs from my location along with alot of the guys i went to class with at the REDI center. We have helped each other find jobs while we are waiting for the call back to CSX. From what out train master told us when we were furloughed was that we should of never been hired because two weeks before we were to go to the REDI they had furloughed several at our location. Instead J-ville dicks said no, lets get them hired and trained so when they do get furloughed they can come back already trained. Well like i said in ealier post...about 75% of the cubs who were in my class couldn't go back to there old job because of either no notice or old job was filled. CSX should have never hired us with the economic situation. I am pissed but i am just glad i was able to get my foot in the door because i had been trying for 2 years to get on. Once again thanks for the support and to all the coats in J-ville...stop screwing with our lives and get us back to work or atleast let us finish out our training so we can atleast work off the furlough board.

Name: CSX Blow E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 December 2009 To Furloughed Cubbie : Man, hang in there. I know it must be hard on you and most people on this forum have NO idea whatsoever what you are going through. There have been people all over the system that is going through the exact same situation you're enduring right now. It is VERY bad business to hire people and lay them off before finishing their training. It shows pure, utter disrespect to all their employees and just not the ones who it directly affected. The reason I say it's disrespectful to all their employees is due to the fact that if they could be so ethically challenged to do such a thing to a new employee what would they do to other employees who have already established themselves with the company. Moral at CSX is very bad. It is the worst I have ever seen at any corporation I have ever had any dealings with. A big problem I have is that nobody at this company never wants to take resistibility for their actions. I see this on a daily occurrence and 90% of it takes place in management. Someone is always placing the blame on someone else. Therefor, you will never get an honest answer from most officials on this railroad so if I was you I wouldn't even waist my time by asking them for information. The management on this railroad is mostly very young and come to work with enough gel in their hair to grease the rails and really never had to work for much so they really can't comprehend what an individual with a mortgage, car payments, family, and basic bill may be going through. This is the caliber of individuals running this dog, and pony show. What I would encourage you to do is keep in contact with other people who you hired with. When I was furloughed I did that and we were able to mentally support each other. That really went a long way too. One funny thing is when the railroad lays off people(furlough)you never hear about it. When another company lays off people you see it all over the new. I called my local news station and talked to a reporter there and she wanted my story REALLY bad. To make a long story short me and several other guys were going to do an interview with her about CSX ethics but my other fellow railroaders who were supposed to be my union brothers backed out at the last minute so the story was canceled. If you can find some guys in your area that are fed-up then you could try the same thing. It would be a real eye opener to the American public. Lastly, don't listen to these old heads saying they feel nothing for you and like everything is your fault. They see to forget that were paid $5,000 to have out jobs and they didn't. We had to do 6 weeks of class room training and most of them didn't. Like I said, hang in there bro and things will get better soon. Just don't let this place bother you too bad because when it comes right down to it you don't work for them, you work

Name: averagejoe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 December 2009 hey there guys it is the christmas season all times for happiness lol one year to the day csx told me i have a job but guess what no job the sad part is that i actually thought i would get a job seeing as my daddy didnt work for the rr, i wasnt in the military because i couldnt decide what i wanted to do for myself, or i dont like to suck on big hard harry jew peckers so to all you semi rich dick merry fuckin christmas tell csx to blow me cuase i still wont blow them for a job

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 12 December 2009 furloughed cubbie Just ignore Goober, He comes around on this site once in a while just to try and stir things up. He's like the pet dog that when it was a puppy it was cute but developed a bad habit of rolling around in it's own crap smelled like schidt so you tied it up to become an outside dog. Every now and then it gets loose

Name: Furloughed Cubbie E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 December 2009 some of you guys who have not been furloughed in years need a reality check. People like me and other furloughed cubs and RR employees with low senority got screwed. I left my good job because RR has better retirement and benefits, the money was the same. Now since CSX only relies on one person to let new hires know when to turn in a notice and that person wanted to take a vaction to campaign for Obama "not making this up, this is what she told me" i have to work for a fraction of what i was making. Those of you who share my sympathy i appreciate it very much, but those of you who want to say i am ignorant need to be furloughed and work a job making 40K less a year than you were making and see how you feel then. I understood the risk when i took this job, but i wouldn't be in the situaition i am in now if i was just able to turn in a notice and be able to go back to my old job atleast until i finally got a call back to CSX. Wow i left a job working around a bunch of dick heads to only work for with bigger dick heads

Name: Furloughed Cubbie E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 December 2009 hey dumby...what i was saying is i had a damn good job and was told to report to the Redi on a certain date. I was told by this dumb bitch in Jacksonville "DO NOT TURN IN NOTICE WITH CURRENT EMPLOYER UNTIL ORDERS ARE RECIEVED FROM JACKSONVILLE" Well exactly two before i was to report to the REDI i never heard anything and called this dumb bitch and found out she was on vacation and nobody there could tell me if i was still to go to the REDI or not. 4 days before we were to report i finally got a call saying "you can now turn in a notice with your employer". Since this dumb bitch decided to take a vaction and not call me and the other new hires i can not go back to my old job and now have to work for peanuts.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 December 2009 bs out there who got screwed by the CSX cock? We all left damn good jobs to come to CSX but most of us couldn't go back to our old jobs because we only got to put in a 4 day notice. Why you ask? Well the lady who was supposed to send us our paperwork letting us know to put in a notice with our current employer took a vacation the day we should have turned in our notice to our employer. Now i cant go back because they said i never gave a 2 weeks notice. THANKS CSX. Stop hiring folks if you are only going to work them 3 months and not let them turn a proper notice with their current employer because they may need there old job back. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX If the RR is hiring these folks. Those that left Dam Good jobs to come to CSX. And the lady did not do her job, took a few vaction days and caused this poor person to get all screwed up. Can't move forward and can't move back. Now it is CSX fault for hiring a fool. God bless America. Guess the answer is give 2 weeks notice. hA HA Now remember-- we could only put in a 4 day notice?? Phone broke I figure????

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 December 2009 Amazing an Engineer with 30 years thinks a Furlough is a Termination. The poor guy needs to get a part time job, no need to call anyone. The RR will call and you will resume training at the proper time. The frigging union has nothing to do with that until you establish a spot on the roster. Then you are a real number, with less protection than you had at your last job, just cost a lot more. As far as the 2 week notice, you are dumber than dumb to not do that. Every company expects that as a courtesy for paying your sorry ass for years. You never have to give notice, many never do and they pay the price down the road. Now you can see that, since ya wanna go back. and the door is closed and locked.

Name: JJ Boyd E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 11 December 2009 Just found out thet a long time fellow employee at collinwood ohio yard in cleveland has a snitch . he pretends to be your freind and the rats you out to the company . Conductor JIM BOYD may you rot in hell . the trainmaster are bad ,But you come from behind and stab your brothers in the back !!!! You better work in a well lighted area Jimmy boy

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 December 2009 Those in training who were let go without completion of OJT and promotion. A puzzling question. What happens to them after things improve? You are correct in the fact you don't belong to the union. No protection. Unfortunately you're left up to CSX to decide your fate. Longer it goes less secure. One case scenario every 6 months maintain contact with CSX giving a current address and phone number. Depends on length of time one might assume the entire training process will have to done over again. Those that were in training when CSX let them go have my sympathy. CSX should of done the right thing by letting people complete their training to establish seniority. That is the key element establishing seniority which didn't happen. Unfortunately the only advise is keep your info current for when they start hiring again. Trainmasters just do what their told by upper management. In my area I did have sympathy for the TM who got the order to have all trainees turn in their gear that their services were no longer needed. I do feel it hurt this man to do the dirty deed. That was CSX being cold blooded.

Name: Furloughed Cubbie E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 10 December 2009 I was hired and was only on OJT for 4 weeks and got training suspended. Well i am not union or management so no one can tell me or the rest of the cubs what the fuck is going on. Our furlough board is getting very low which is suprising since this is supposed to be the slow time of year but anyways we were told when our training was suspended when it got down to a certain amount, our taining would resume. Well here it is well past what our Train Master told us and i still haven't got the call. My question is what the fuck is CSX gonna do when all furloughed guys are back and we are still on OJT and they dont have a furlough board to pull from? It only makes since to get us back in training that way when everyone is called back we are ready to go. Any other cubs out there who got screwed by the CSX cock? We all left damn good jobs to come to CSX but most of us couldn't go back to our old jobs because we only got to put in a 4 day notice. Why you ask? Well the lady who was supposed to send us our paperwork letting us know to put in a notice with our current employer took a vacation the day we should have turned in our notice to our employer. Now i cant go back because they said i never gave a 2 weeks notice. THANKS CSX. Stop hiring folks if you are only going to work them 3 months and not let them turn a proper notice with their current employer because they may need there old job back.

Name: Sadder E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 December 2009 Sad, Yes, everyone is suppose to be back at work Jan. 1, 2010. Also, Hell will freeze over, the Pope will marry Madonna, Elvis will perform live at the Ritz, and Mike Ward will cash out his stock options and give all the money to furloughed RR workers. Merry Christmas.

Name: sad E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 December 2009 i have heard that in the start of 2010 , everyone will be back to work. has anyone heard about this if so please let me know .....

Name: E-mail: thatwilldo Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years Posted: 01 December 2009 Steve Gordon I thought I would just post your letter. Quit crying. If you need work go get it the old fashion way. Earn it. Tell us what you can do for us. If you are on CSX-Sucks.com trying to drum up work then I find that weak. There is plenty of work the DLC only want Slam Dunk Cases and the little stuff there is not any representation. So take some hard shot cases and show us what you can do. Default Bringing Light & Sense to the DLC Process Dear YL- You would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not know my feelings on the Designated Lawyer Selection [DLC] process that is utilized by the BLET, BMWE, UTU and every other rail union. It is a system that is as old as me and has been fraught with deception, greed and a "good ol' boy" system since day one. How many people have vowed to clean it up? How many people have gone to jail, absconded with members' monies, been charged with crimes? The time has come to clean this mess up and I am starting this thread in hopes that, those that believe like I do, will speak up and let your voices be heard! I believe that, at bare minimums, to be any Union DLC, you should have to take a test on the FELA law. You should also have to agree to represent the Members for a 25% contingency fee. You should also agree to give .05% of your FELA fees back to the Union that you have received the designation from and they should be required to take 50% of that money and use it for a designated RAIL charity and the other 50% should be used to fund conventions. These are the requirements that should be made open and obvious. No firm should be given preference over another and each should be free to negotiate down their fee below 25% if they want to in order to give a better deal to the member that contacted them. Any firm that receives a DLC designation that is caught using "runners" should forever lose the DLC status and that would include all lawyers in it. I urge you to speak out. Mr. Sorrow from the BLET has every reason in the world to to do this and take the lead in the industry. I am not saying any DLC currently with a designation is (1) not deserving of it; (2) does not work their butts off in an excellent manner; (3) is not capable to practice FELA law. In fact, I disavow any reference that this post says anything about any one lawyer or any one firm. What I am saying is the "proof is in the pudding" and one cannot deny the problem exists! Steve Gordon FELA Lawyer Last edited by FELA FELLA; Today at 02:55 PM.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 December 2009 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for N/A Posted: 28 November 2009 when are we gonna stop fighting each other? and start going after the railroads? do you know you can sue your officals in court for ? or make their personal lives miserable? hey? they wanna fuck with your job and your family ? lets start fucking with them? do it in a way no one will ever know? catch them in any act? go after them in your off time? dont stalk them but? well you get the idea ? you guys that are apes better wake up? officials are not your buddiesXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX I love this little post from a little mouse. Hey man do it!! No one really cares. Sue your neighbor, sue CSX, sue anyone that you want. First thing is drag out the old checkbook, and we shall see how interested you really are. Bottom line ---the above post is just BS. Just like most of mine????

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 December 2009 Dear All- I post this link for your consideration and comment: http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/legal-news-announcements/18954-bringing-light-sense-dlc-process.html Take Care & Be Safe.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 December 2009 ZOMG Tony Ingram is retiring at the end of december

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 November 2009 Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 November 2009 Hey Other: "Furthermore were does your sense of entitlement come from? What are you owed?" Let me see..."The Great Society" perhaps you're old enough to remember? Welfare, food stamps, public housing, Social Security, WIC, aid to dependent children, unemployment insurance and the list goes on and on. Although most of these programs existed before 1964, they were all greatly expanded after Johnson's reforms and the advent of the "Great Society". Everyone over the age of 45, two maybe three generations, is a child of the "Great Society", that's a huge percentage of the U.S. population. Money talks and bullshit walks, so as long as there are politicians there will be entitlement programs. They may ebb and flow depending on which party is in power but like taxes entitlements are here to stay! ********************************************************************** Oh you are so correct with the above statement, and to that we are a demon of our own creation, and only getting worse in today’s society of me first and something for nothing. No one has a good work ethic anymore and this was created by all of us who tried to provide for our families better than was provided for us! With all the programs that you mentioned above you as well as every one else are entitled to but, with that being said in the private work force what are you entitled to? Like I said before a paycheck? That’s it! I have had a pretty fortunate life provided by myself doing what is expected of me by myself and my family. This has been passed on to my children as well to create a sense of ownership in there future knowing that no one else is going to do it for you, so don’t expect it. Sadly this is not the case in today’s times everyone from GM to my neibores are looking for handouts. This has taken all of the accountability and responsibility out of the decisions we make making it easier to blame someone else when we fail. I sorry I don’t by it. All this attitude does is allow some one else to pay for your mistakes. This also confirms my last post but because I speak of accountability and responsibility I could not possibly be right, it’s always some one else fault that you did something wrong or the decisions you made didn’t work the way you planned… Its time people stand up and are accounted for… and stop crying about it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 November 2009 Are you all really this pathetic? If you hate CSX this much really make a statement and quit. No; that’s what I thought just a bunch of cowards bitching about a company that you work for, imagine that. I might not be seeing the whole picture here but I know enough about unionized work forces to know that you have it very well if you still have a paycheck in this economy were layoffs and furloughs are the norm these days. Furthermore were does your sense of entitlement come from? What are you owed? I don’t work in your industry but a very similar field, were safety and on the job awareness is of the utmost importance, and if not respected in can have life ending consequences so safety is first and foremost your responsibility! With that being said back to my original questions what are you entitled to? What are you owed? Let me tell you so you don’t hurt yourselves thinking about it…..It’s a paycheck, its that simple, if your work your entitled to get paid, that it. If your looking for someone to blame, I have an idea, blame yourselves. If you read this and listen this is true. When was the last union meeting you were at? Do you even know were the meetings are, on what day and when? This is how you are to blame, no participation in your own labor organization and there for your local officers are elected on a good ol’boys club way of doing things, they are in it for themselves and only themselves, but you put them in there. Do you understand how your General Chairman & Vice General Chairman are elected? Here’s a hint by the people who are in the local positions that you elected. Now these people who are looking out for #1 and that isn’t you have free rein to put in people just like themselves in the next level the labor organizations to which you pays dues, oh I almost forgot offices are probably right next to the companies main offices, correct? I wonder why that is, let me tell you because they can! Because you allow it! Because of your lack of interest in your own local, were you pay dues to, were you don’t care what goes on at…….. So back to what started this rant, just resign I am sure that will fix all of your problems at least with CSX it will. No you won’t do that though; why; because they aren’t handing out 60-70K or more a year jobs every day, that’s why! So bitch all you want to because most of you are just hypocrites coming on here to bitch at how bad you have it working for this company that gives you a paycheck so you can provide for yourself and your family. That’s right I’m wrong, here’s an idea, if it’s that bad were you are get up go look yourself in the mirror and blame him, then get involved locally and do something about it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for N/A Posted: 28 November 2009 when are we gonna stop fighting each other? and start going after the railroads? do you know you can sue your officals in court for ? or make their personal lives miserable? hey? they wanna fuck with your job and your family ? lets start fucking with them? do it in a way no one will ever know? catch them in any act? go after them in your off time? dont stalk them but? well you get the idea ? you guys that are apes better wake up? officials are not your buddies

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 25 November 2009 I'll agree it was half arse backwards on this premium card. The union banked on the majority of members not sending it in. Whoever heard of sending out a card to not be automatically enrolled? It should have been the opposite. Even though it was explained in the attached letter of the actions necessary to prevent paying the premium. It only takes 3 minutes to fill it out and put it in the mailbox seeing it's prepaid postage. For myself it may work out in my favor. To be determined at a later date.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 November 2009 E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 November 2009 Goob If you read my first post correctly on Nov 17th it stated send the card in to not have the money taken out. I never endorsed paying it. I wish I had remembered to send in the card. I made the additional premium payments for 7 months. It might benefit me in the long run. That is to be determined at a later date. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX I read your post carefully the first time. You said it correctly. The problem I have is with the card, that should be sent in to activate the $31.00 deduction and the fact that no action does what it did to you. It comes down to the union side, everyone wanted us to do this, they never said no. In reality most were working and never read the frigging thing. Bet the score was in the 90% area. Had the union requested a vote in favor---- it would be 20% or less! AS always --just my Opinion-- Everyone has one hopefully. Oh by the way if you can figure out a way to cancel that deduction you will lose the protection and save $217.00 over the next 7 months Good beer money . And you will only be down $217.00 Could be a lot more.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 November 2009 your railroad is awful and i hope the stock holders rebel

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 November 2009 Goob If you read my first post correctly on Nov 17th it stated send the card in to not have the money taken out. I never endorsed paying it. I wish I had remembered to send in the card. I made the additional premium payments for 7 months. It might benefit me in the long run. That is to be determined at a later date.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 November 2009 I'll have to agree with the statement these short term disability policies hate to pay. They love those premiums. I guess I'm one of the fortunate ones they've been paying me the past 4+ months with my benefits recently extended for another 3 months. You have to fight to get it started they play the game of denying benefits. Makes you wonder how many times this tactic worked and people gave up. Insurance companies are one of the lowest forms of life on this planet. Everything from healthcare to automobile a neccessary evil.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 November 2009 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 November 2009 Bubba This person hates all unions. He also hates job protection insurance. He just posted on a subject he haven't a clue about. Especially the advise of cancelling a short term disability policy that was part of a contract and we don't pay a premium for the basic coverage.XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Boy, You hit the nail on the head this time. I despise those that take advantage of others. You are correct I did not know that the coverage was provided by your contract. I am smart enough to know that Insurance provided by the union contract can not be cancelled, it is a group policy? There is no op out for the Individual. I am thrilled that you do not pay more for it, however now the union want's you to pay more! 55k of you at $31.00 per month send it to me and get the same protection that you will have, or now have. Heck I will pay up after you are Disabled, Certified by a doc, and have received a large Settlement.At 1.7 million a month it should really be EASY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 November 2009 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 November 2009 It seems ya'll are confusing several different issues short term disabilty, job protection insurance, and H&W. This option is for a short term disability policy that you already have which doesn't cost you a dime it was part of a contract. Opt out you'll still be covered under the short term disability. If you decide to pay the premium and you get injured on or off the job and collect a settlement you won't have to repay the short term disabilty money. If you collect sick benfits from Railroad Retirement while off injured once you collect a settlement you are required to repay Railroad Retirement. This just alliviates one less person you need to repay. It's not that big of a deal. Sign the card send it back before the cut off date the money won't be taken out of your check.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Short term Disability is a foreign item, with very low claim's. If it is free and comes with the contract fine, even a fool would not cancel free insurance, even though it is worthless. Notice all of the If's in the above post. Folks the stats are in your favor to decline and save that $31.00. If a doc does not say you are Disabled, guess what ZERO to your bank account. Now picture this You must repay, if you are injured, disabled and have a settlement. HUM who would really care!!!!! Pay up folks rely on the master of education the above Engineer!

Name: US Justice Department E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 November 2009 The following article is proof that millions of dollars in FELA (Railroad employee injury claim) do NOT go to the injured railroad worker - they go to GREASE THE GREEDY PALMS of the Unions, Railroads, and lawyers around the country. This is just the tip of the iceberg - it is NOT an 'isolated' incident.... railroad carriers, including CSX, spend BILLIONS a year on FELA claims, about 20 TIMES that spent by comparable state workers compensation (non-railraod FELA type) employee claims. It does not take a rocket scientist to see this payment imbalance is VASTLY out of whack. So, WHY IS THERE SUCH AN IMBALANCE OF PAYMENTS? What do FELA claims cost so much more than identical state claims? For every $100 a state system pays, FELA pays $2,000.00 For example, over the course of one year the UP paid out $5 Billion in FELA claims (yes, $1.5 billion!!), while state compensation programs with the same number of workers with the same injuries paid out $300 million - by any calculation, that difference is statistically IMPOSSIBLE - unless there is a MASSIVE KICKBACK PROGRAM in place and running smoothly wtihout interuption. Where does all that FELA money go - billions of dollars of overpayments between the four big railroad - UP, NS, BNSF, and CSX????? It sure doesn't go to the injured railroad workers. Railroad Managers, Directors and Executives in charge of administering FELA claims are in the absolute unchecked perfect position to take HUGE kickbacks from Unions, and from Union appointed FELA attorneys - everyone gets rich in this game....Unions get a kickback from FELA attorneys, FELA attorneys get pumped up settlement awards approved by railroad execs. Yes, you can bet that CSX FELA claims executive get kickbacks from both FELA attorneys and Union bosses. THIS IS WHY FELA CLAIM PAYMENTS ARE 20 TIMES HIGHER THAT STATE RUN WORKERS COMPENSATION PROGRAMS, and is why the Railroad 'system' will NEVER get rid of FELA - it is TOO DAMN LUCRITIVE FOR THE CROOKS TO GIVE IT UP - at the sole expense of the stockholder AND the injured railroad worker. For decades we have heard about how 'fake' railroad workers' injury claims have driven up the cost of FELA payments. Now you know its BULLSHIT!!!!!! The whole damn FELA system needs to be investigated and the crooks need to be cleaned out!! Here's the blurb posted earlier by Bubba. Trust me, the BLET president is NOT the only one getting rich off the FELA system - there are hundreds of others who are getting kickbacks too. If the BLET's president spills his guts to cut a deal, many more heads will roll - and you can bet it will include a cadre of union AND railroad executives as well as a boodle of corrupt lawyers... If you who are reading this know of similar illegal FELA kickback schemes, contact your local U.S. Department of Justice field office. **************************************************************** BLET PRESIDENT ARRESTED ON BRIBE CHARGE ( press release issued by U.S. Justice Department, Eastern District, St. Louis, Missouri). Edward W. Rodzwicz, president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen, was arrested on a federal complaint charging him with bribery, Acting U.S. Attorney Michael W. Reap announced Oct. 13. Rodzwicz is the sitting president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen (BLET), a national labor union with over 55,000 U.S.A. railroad members. It is a division of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT). According to affidavit filed with criminal complaint, BLET maintains a list of designated legal counsel (DLC), who are recommended to their membership to handle injury cases under the Federal Employers Liability Act (FELA). DESIGNATION AS A DLC GENERATES VERY LUCRITIVE BUSINESS FOR (UNION) DESIGNATED FELA ATTORNEYS. The national president of the BLET has final authority over the designation of FELA attorneys. In February 2009, an internal compliance committee recommended that a particular DLC attorney for the BLET should lose his designation, due to alleged violations of DLC Rules of Conduct. On March 10, 2009, Rodzwicz approached that attorney in Little Rock, Ark., and solicited a payment from that attorney in exchange for allowing him to retain his DLC designation. The DLC attorney contacted the Department of Labor, Office of Inspector General. In subsequent meetings at the attorney's office in St. Louis, and at Harrah's Casino, Las Vegas, Rodzwicz solicited and agreed to accept a cash payment of $10,000 from the attorney, plus the promise of an additional cash payment of $10,000 after Rodzwicz allowed him to retain his designation. Rodzwicz accepted a cash payment from the attorney on April 28, 2009, in Las Vegas, and he sent a letter allowing the attorney to retain his designation on May 1, 2009. He accepted a second cash payment of $10,000 from the attorney on Sept. 16, 2009, in Kansas City, Mo. The complaint was filed in the Eastern District of Missouri last week and remained suppressed until the arrest of Mr. Rodzwicz this morning by agents with the Department of Labor, Office of Inspector General, at his home in Avon, Ohio. Daniel R. Petrole, acting inspector general, U.S. Department of Labor, stated: "Union members expect that their officials will do what is right on their behalf. If these allegations are proven, there has been a serious breach of the union members' trust. My agency will continue to work with the U.S. Attorney's Office to investigate this type of crime." Rodzwicz, 63, was charged with one violation of 18 U.S.C. section 666, bribery in connection with a federally funded program; and one violation of 18 U.S.C. section 1952, interstate travel to carry on unlawful activity. He made his initial appearance this afternoon in Cleveland. If convicted, 18 U.S.C. section 666 carries a maximum penalty of ten years in prison and/or fines up to $250,000; 18 U.S.C. section 1952 carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and/or fines up to $250,000. The charges set forth in a complaint are merely accusations, and the defendant is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty. October 14, 2009. ********************************************************************

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 November 2009 Bubba This person hates all unions. He also hates job protection insurance. He just posted on a subject he haven't a clue about. Especially the advise of cancelling a short term disability policy that was part of a contract and we don't pay a premium for the basic coverage.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 November 2009 It seems ya'll are confusing several different issues short term disabilty, job protection insurance, and H&W. This option is for a short term disability policy that you already have which doesn't cost you a dime it was part of a contract. Opt out you'll still be covered under the short term disability. If you decide to pay the premium and you get injured on or off the job and collect a settlement you won't have to repay the short term disabilty money. If you collect sick benfits from Railroad Retirement while off injured once you collect a settlement you are required to repay Railroad Retirement. This just alliviates one less person you need to repay. It's not that big of a deal. Sign the card send it back before the cut off date the money won't be taken out of your check.

Name: Bubba E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 November 2009 Hey, Other, non-employee, for N/A Almost forgot, since you a UTU hater and a BLE nut-hugger, I thought you may wanna read this. Not to worry, I'm sure you have a very large Ego and you can handle it. BLET president arrested on bribe charge (The following press release was issued by the U.S. Justice Department’s U.S. attorney’s office for the Eastern District of Missouri in St. Louis.) Edward W. Rodzwicz, president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen, was arrested on a federal complaint charging him with bribery, Acting U.S. Attorney Michael W. Reap announced Oct. 13. Rodzwicz is the sitting president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen (BLET), a national labor union with over 55,000 members consisting of railroad employees throughout the United States. It is a division of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT). According to the affidavit filed with the criminal complaint, the BLET maintains a list of designated legal counsel (DLC), who are recommended to their membership to handle injury cases under the Federal Employers Liability Act (FELA). Designation as a DLC generates very lucrative business for designated attorneys. The national president of the BLET has final authority over the designation of FELA attorneys. In February 2009, an internal compliance committee recommended that a particular DLC attorney for the BLET should lose his designation, due to alleged violations of DLC Rules of Conduct. On March 10, 2009, Rodzwicz approached that attorney in Little Rock, Ark., and solicited a payment from that attorney in exchange for allowing him to retain his DLC designation. The DLC attorney contacted the Department of Labor, Office of Inspector General. In subsequent meetings at the attorney's office in St. Louis, and at Harrah's Casino, Las Vegas, Rodzwicz solicited and agreed to accept a cash payment of $10,000 from the attorney, plus the promise of an additional cash payment of $10,000 after Rodzwicz allowed him to retain his designation. Rodzwicz accepted a cash payment from the attorney on April 28, 2009, in Las Vegas, and he sent a letter allowing the attorney to retain his designation on May 1, 2009. He accepted a second cash payment of $10,000 from the attorney on Sept. 16, 2009, in Kansas City, Mo. The complaint was filed in the Eastern District of Missouri last week and remained suppressed until the arrest of Mr. Rodzwicz this morning by agents with the Department of Labor, Office of Inspector General, at his home in Avon, Ohio. Daniel R. Petrole, acting inspector general, U.S. Department of Labor, stated: "Union members expect that their officials will do what is right on their behalf. If these allegations are proven, there has been a serious breach of the union members' trust. My agency will continue to work with the U.S. Attorney's Office to investigate this type of crime." Rodzwicz, 63, was charged with one violation of 18 U.S.C. section 666, bribery in connection with a federally funded program; and one violation of 18 U.S.C. section 1952, interstate travel to carry on unlawful activity. He made his initial appearance this afternoon in Cleveland. If convicted, 18 U.S.C. section 666 carries a maximum penalty of ten years in prison and/or fines up to $250,000; 18 U.S.C. section 1952 carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and/or fines up to $250,000. The charges set forth in a complaint are merely accusations, and the defendant is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty. October 14, 2009

Name: Bubba E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 November 2009 Other, Non-employee, for N/A You must be a certified financial planner to tell someone "simply cancel the un needed coverage that you currently have. You have coverage provided by you and the CSX---that my friend is all you need." Well now, you must be good friends with the conductor, to know how much coverage he needs to cover his bills in case of a illness. You then state "Put that $31.00 in your pocket, after a while you can call the shot's and not the UTU". What the heck does that mean? If $31.00 a month is gonna make that big of a change in your finances, then apparently you need some financial advice of your own. Also, although I am in the UTU, I received a letter from the BLET yesterday. Let me educate you a bit, this is the bottom paragraph from the BLET international Headquarters. NOTE: UTU Members working as engineers are eligible for Part A and may purchase Part B coverage by making an annual payment of $276 to the BLET Trust Fund. Other, non-employee, for N/A, it seems as though the $276 is more BS from the BLET.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 November 2009 Conductor: The $31.00 is more BS from the UTU. The very best move for you is to not even entertain the notion of paying an extra premium, simply cancel the un needed coverage that you currently have. You have coverage provided by you and the CSX--- that my friend is all that you need. Put that $31.00 in Your Pocket, after a while you can call the shot's and not the UTU. Just remember the CSX send's you a check, the UTU take's your check.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 November 2009 That money is an option you can opt out. The purpose is if you are injured wether on or off duty and recieve a settlement you don't have to pay back the short term disabilty money. If you opt out then you have to pay back the money if you collected from Prudential after recieving a settlement. The BLET got this last year.

Name: Soon to retire E-mail: Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for N/A Posted: 13 November 2009 I have spent a lot of time reading these posts! I am surprised to learn that many of us at CMC are oblivious to much of what happens to T&E! The T&E have my upmost respect for the demanding hours and job that they do. But, working the desk that I work, I must say I understand the frustration! Its frustrating for T&E when when some at CMC give you a hard time, but its also frustrationg for callers as well. We are constantly "monitored" I hate hearing that callers are to blame for many of the problems that T&E encounter! Many (not all I know) callers will help with what they can! But we are with our own limits as to what we are able to do. Doing someone a "favor" that is just not possible without getting a caller in hot water (sometimes suspension) is just not worth it. It gets frustrating for us when people "shoot" the boards just to avoid work! Or marks off sick just because they dont want to catch a certain train or dont want to work with who they are paired up with! After working an area so long you start to know whos who and what they do. Our job is to call the trains. when we delay them we have to answer as to why (to more than one person,) and that gets old quick! (Communication is NOT the strong suit of the company, as I am sure many of you know) Running the rosters is what we must do to try to get a crew for the train! If we dont "look" for people to work what we are delaying then thats a write-up for us! and after so many of those it goes to "counseling" and then sometimes an investigation! So yes getting a crew for a train is my #1 priority, its my job. And I am well aware that it gets aggravating for many to have their phones ringing all night! (I personally hate calling people that I know are asleep) I can go on and on here but any employee should understand what I mean. We are under a union contract just as the T&E are! A contract thats violated so often I cant keep up! To get days off the correct way is sometimes nearly impossible for us as well. Ive had to miss many family things due to that. So please try to remember that the callers are not there to "screw" anyone! We are not all bad! Please don't group us all as 1 in the same! Because I really cant think of anyone that I call that would say I am mean or disrespectful to anyone that calls in! I think most would say that I am helpful and try to get a resolution to any problems that one may have! I cant wait to see the responses I get to this! I look forward to reading them! Caller I

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 November 2009 Hey Con 30+: Opt out...you can!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 13 November 2009 Has anyone else gotten a letter from the UTU on their latest scam. Everyon MUST pay $31 a month more with their union dues for a short term disability policy. You can send a post card in and opt out but how many will be "lost'"? Which fat cat union bosses are getting a kickback this time?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 November 2009 Sick days for T+E on Csx are like caffiene in 7-UP; never had em never will. I drag my sick ass to work and save sick markoffs for beautiful summer days when the list is exhausted.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 07 November 2009 Hi I work in intermodal and have been with csx for 18 yrs. We use STARS and it sucks they charge us with one point if we are 1 min late or take the day off sick.. With CSXI we get 20 paid sick days a year which is great not sure how many you guys get with CSXT. Flu season is here they also like to tell us that sick days are for the employee not for your children. My sons have been sick with flu for 4 weeks now back and forth maybe I should bring them to the ramp and let them sit in the lunchroom for my shift and get the whole ramp sick. ( I KNOW I CANT DO THIS JUST WISH FULL THINKING) I just dont understand why they give us sick days we cant use!!! THIS SUCKS!! TCU our union does not care so what could we do any suggestions? THANKS

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 04 November 2009 Huntington division is no different...trainmasters steal time hear...never leave the house unless Frulla calls out swat team

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 November 2009 THE LOWDOWN ON THE DETROIT TRAINMASTERS RECENTLY ALL 5 TRAINMASTERS AT ROUGEMERE YARD IN DEARBORN MI WERE PLACED ON ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE BY THE NORTHERN REGION MANAGER CINDY SANBORN. THE 4 WERE ACCUSED OF LETTING CREWS STEAL TIME, COVERING UP RUN THROUGH SWITCHES, DERAILMENTS AND INJURIES. AMONG THOSE ACCUSED WAS JIM HORNER, DETROITS TERMINAL MANAGER WHO IS ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED OFFICIALS ON THE ENTIRE CSX SYSTEM BY BOTH T&E EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS OTHER OFFICIALS. LAST FRIDAY THEIR FATE WAS HANDED DOWN BY DIVISION MANAGER JEFF WHITE. MR. HORNER AS WELL AS TM GORDON WILSON WERE FORCED TO RETIRE WHILE TM JOE TUCKER WAS DEMOTED AND TM BOB BARNHARD WAS ALLOWED TO GO BACK TO CRAFT AS CONDUCTOR. THE 5TH TRAINMASTER JASON HARRIS WAS GIVEN A GOLDEN TICKET OUT OF THE DIVISION TO AVON INDIANA WHERE HE HAS WANTED TO GO SINCE ARRIVING AT DETROIT. SO WHY DID THE OTHER 4 GET FIRED AND NOT JASON YOU ASK, WELL MR HARRIS IS THE ONE WHO STARTED ALL OF THIS BY SQUEELING LIKE THE FAT PIG HE IS TO THE REGIONAL MANAGER ABOUT THE WRONG DOINGS IN DETROIT AND ABOUT HOW HE WAS TIRED OF HAVING HIS JOB THREATENED. MR HARRIS DID MORE COVERING UP THAN THE OTHER 4 TRAINMASTERS COMBINED, INCLUDING TAKING CASH FROM A CREW TO COVER UP A RUN-THROUGH SWITCH AND PERSONALLY COMPLETING TIME TICKETS FOR CREWS. MR.HARRIS SPENT THE MAJORITY OF HIS TIME IN DETROIT SHOPPING ON EBAY AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ESCAPE THE DREADED CHICAGO DIVISION. THEN 2 MONTHS AGO WHILE AT A MANAGERS MEETING IN PHILADELPHIA HE DECEIDED TO OPEN HIS FAT MOUTH AND BETTER HIS CAREER BY RUINING THE CAREERS OF 4 OTHER MEN. THE CSXT MANAGMENT AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WITHIN THE NORTHERN REGION DID NOTHING TO INVESTIGATE MR HARRIS'S CLAIMS. IF THEY HAD THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN WHO THE REAL SHITBAG WAS AND SHOVED THE WHISTLE UP THE FAT WHISTLEBLOWERS ASS. SO IF YOU WORK IN OR OUT OF AVON YARD WATCH YOUR ASS. WHETHER YOUR A UNION EMPLOYEE OR AN OFFICIAL, BE CAREFUL BECAUSE JASON HARRIS WILL STEP ON YOU TO GET TO THE TOP. (OR EVEN JUST TO GET OUT OF YOUR DIVISION)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 02 November 2009 anyone hear about csx employees stealing time in detroit, trainmasters and road forman getting fired also?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 01 November 2009 We have know one to blame but ourselves for having such cowardly union officers; even on the international level!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 November 2009 Why blame those in Hinton for something CSX is considering? I've never seen where the workers or unions have had any options other then try to secure some percentage of the work based on milage on each subdivision when ID service is established. You're playing right into CSX hands create discention amongst the rank and file. CSX doesn't care who loses. It's happened before with ID service in other places it didn't work at first then the workers gave in and made it work. We are our worst enemy at times.

Name: russell guy E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 October 2009 Hey folks, I am here to say that Hinton sucks and your managers as well. They think that we are the bad guys and we have alot more work this way. I hope they find away to shut down Hinton stopping point as they have been trying for a long time. I hope they get rid of all the people from Hinton. The only good thing about staying in them shitty hotels is knowing I just passed you on the road and your wife is on her way to see me!! As a matter of fact she just called while you are out of town wanting to know if i was on my way. Your safe tonight cause i am off. Hinton girls are easy!! If you are eating in Hinton your wifes usally come to us and say aww you most work on the railroad my husband works for the railroad hes neer home hint hint. Well why dont you come to DQ and let me eat ya! HA Oh and as far as us taking your shitty jobs we dont want the shitty jobs! You would be better off letting them shut Hinton down at least you would be home a little more! It is not just me there is 4 of your girls sleeping with russell men. And they all tell us hes prolly doing the samething where ever he is. Rot you stupid scabs from Hinton!Just keep in mind if we move to Hinton your wife may just move with us!

Name: conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 October 2009 As I have read and know to be fact they are moving jobs to hinton from russell because the russell guys cant move trains over the road. it takes them hrs to even get out on the train and pull. They know that by placing jobs in hinton that the guys wont take them and they are learning that they dont get lodging everywhere and they have to mave to hinton and live. This Id agreement will never last s the company will see that it not working. There are a few guys that have came to hinton to take the few jobs they put on but it wil bit them pretty hard when the company says this aint working they wil lhave to move there home yet again. The company is screwing the guys from both locations and the russell guys didnt see it coming and they bed over and take it. Stupid if they take the few spots at hinton and even dumber if they move to hinton. The company is reviewing the id crews to see whom moves the trains better hiinton guys or russell. They are working on a plan to take away id from russell and let them have the pools and hinton have a id and only run from elk run danville and peach creek back to hinton not in to russell. I personally wish they would do away with id service all together and never have to see the trash from russell again.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 31 October 2009 All you have to do is schedule your PL & DV days on days that are available. I'm sure you already know that fact. CMC has the discretion to allow or deny them if they weren't scheduled. I've never had a problem with CMC getting them once I've ascertained no one else was using them or only one person was off. Another issue would be people on the boards to cover the vacancy. Just because someone wants them at their convenience doesn't mean anything. As for working OT give me a break quit complaining because mean ole'CSX forces someone to make money. There are thousands out there who'ld like to fill those slots. In fact there are 2100 people furloughed around CSX. Everthing I've read shows it's going to be a long haul to the recovery of business. Be thankful you have a job in this market. I recieved an email yesterday concerning people who were terminated and the final appeals notices. It wasn't good 9 out of 11 terminations were upheld which means their gone for good. Keep your nose clean and go with the flow it's going to be one hell of a ride.

Name: TRUTH-NO LIES E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 October 2009 CSX Sux is the correct name for the local Russel, Kentucky roundhouse, Raceland Yards, and Huntington Repair Shop in Huntington, WV. The bald headed sucker that does the hiring really looks and acts like he is straight from Russia. He walks into interviews like he is being bothered to see you and thinks his shit don't stink. Unless your last name is one of his sucks your family will never have the opportunity to be able to work for the railroad. Experience and schooling does not mean anything with CSX in the Tri-State Area of Ashland, ky / Ironton, Ohio / and Huntington, Wv. I hope the Russian gets his one day as all people do. The railroad in our area really sux as they have leaks in tank cars in the Raceland yard and causes business to shut down and don't bother to pay the local businees employees or loss of busniess due to their stupdiness and no concern for human life. The big shot Mr. Russian bald head run around like he was trying to hide the mess he created. The local news media did let it get out after people in the local cities of raceland, worthington, and wurtland was evacuated and local business was close. SHAME ON CSX for not leaving a man in control of this area of the railroad who has no concern for the people living in the area near the railroad. I have lived here for 56 years and it is the worst I have ever seen it. CSX REALLY DOES SUCK!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 25 October 2009 They will not approve your personel days or vacation. They make you work 2 to 3 days a week of overtime with out a choice. Your request paid time off, the answer is no. You lay off sick, account you have to be off. Your at step one,two, three. They have all kinds of furloughed employees, who they say want to work. They fire you account you have several years of service and are entitledt to Vacation, Personal days. The economy sucks, they cut jobs off. Twelve months ago they couldnt get enough people who were willing to work for a company that was trying to fire you every time they turn around, becaue Tony Ingram Told your supervisor they had a Quota on how many people they had to fail on O-Test a month. This is the only fortune 500 company who try to fire all of the employee's that make they company run. Its not the CEO or Ingram, that keeps the Railroad running. When they are in trouble who do they turn to there employee's to solve there problem. But never reward them all ways punish them. They need new people running the show not ward, ingram and all there freinds on the Board.

Name: Red E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 October 2009 Hey Russell Conductor, I woundnt be worried about the restriction of senority of on Russell I2 jobs at Hinton, I would be worried about why their putting your jobs on at some place other then your home terminal! Makes a lot of since for the company to add jobs at terminal 167 miles away from your home. They are hoping you Russell guys dont take them. That way both Hinton and Russell crews lose and CSX wins like always.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 October 2009 October 18, 2009 & CSX still SUCKS! Cheap Skate Xpress

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 18 October 2009 Anybody know why they are restictin Russell senority on the I2 pooles at Hinton when the contract clearly says Russell men have first rights to them. Labor Relations told me that there is a magic number on the roster and that number is 2214 so if you younger than than your not allowed to mark up on them but if your older you can. What the hell, does senority even matter who cares if I'm younger thatn that if a older man wants the job then he will kick me.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 October 2009 CSX Blow In one way your right after someone leaves their forgotten. I've been off on a medical for 3 1/2 months maybe I'm fortunate but quite a few of my fellow co-workers check on me every week. The biggest change not one CSX official has called to see how I'm doing. Recently I went to a C&O Retirees lunch there were 4 retired trainmasters all of whom I greatly respect. Back in their days they knew everyone who worked on their subdivision or yard they cared. When I did the "face to face" rules class early this year it was the first time I met the TM for the subdivision I worked on he had been the TM for well over a year. Times have changed for the worse.

Name: robofuq E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 October 2009 First of all, I agree that when the company implements rules that override existing agreements it is horseshit. That being said, they make the rules, like them or not. They also have the power to take away your paycheck if rules are not followed. You lost your job because you can't be bothered to go to work, and now you want sympathy? Sorry, I'm fresh out. After 6 years with no layoffs, I watched as hundreds of my brothers, in all crafts, lost their jobs when Frontier yard was closed, myself included. I don't want to see anyone get fired, and I hope you get your job back. In the meantime, get a taste of what else is out there. I think you'll find that 60k a year jobs are not falling off trees.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 October 2009 Hey Unemployment Insurance: It's an Oyster alright...a mountain Oyster!

Name: CSX Blow E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 October 2009 To Unemployment Insurance : Your response was : Now I'm collecting Unemployment looking for another job, waiting on appeals and arbritration. None of my Union "brothers" seem to care... Haven't received a phone call yet :o( Well, I've got news for you in which you found out the hard way. Nobody, AND I MAN NOBODY on the railroad gives a crap about you or the next man. They are all in it for theirselves out here which is a real cry and shame because the conductors I work with hold my job in their hands just like they count on me to come to be responsible. That's just the way it is out here. Like I said, I hate you had to find out the hard way.

Name: Unemployment Insurance E-mail: VL2@TMO.Blackberry.NET Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 October 2009 I'm just laughing at the 666 engine on the homepage. Are there two of those kinds? Because I thought it was a wide body!? The accident displayed explains why I haven't seen that engine in awhile :o)

Name: Unemployment Insurance E-mail: VL2@TMO.Blackberry.NET Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 October 2009 @ "Shame on Lloyd" and "Shame on you CSX" (the same person lol). This is my first time on this site and your words have inspired me and lifted up my bad mood :o) You are truly a free man with a free spirit. And I can agree with you that not to many railroaders are brave enough to make the decision you made. I'm still a fairly young Man and learning, the world is my oyster... Peace.

Name: Unemployment Insurance E-mail: VL2@TMO.Blackberry.NET Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 October 2009 That level 3 in the attendance policy is a motha effer... (How do u fight it?) I don't even think it's in the collective bargaining agreement. But they do what they want... The F'd up thing about it is that guys who are getting dismissed now will not benefit from the new agreement that's going to wipe everybodies slate clean and if you get in trouble again it will wipe out again with 6months good behavior. Wish I had that benefit, sucks to be me. :o( Now I'm collecting Unemployment looking for another job, waiting on appeals and arbritration. None of my Union "brothers" seem to care... Haven't received a phone call yet :o(

Name: dillweed E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 October 2009 CSX sucks almost as bad as the Unions that they own. I don't care if it is BLE or UTU- they both suck CSX D. and they both screw the Union members. I guess the RR used to be a decent job. Those days are long gone by. With the FRA hos laws in place, they have pretty much capped our pay. F all the BS.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 October 2009 Hey Ninja: Retire and become a gentleman of leisure or hit the Powerball!

Name: No Work (Ninja) E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 October 2009 Well TM offered a 30 Day waiver for suspension, and I am going to take it...but now that I still have a job...what are some tricks and tips I can use to get the time off I need without getting jammed up in the attendance policy?

Name: retired E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 10 October 2009 to the person who is in step three for not working. If you have let it get this for then you need to be terminated and let the people that is cut off go to work that wants too and need to make a living. find you another job that has all the off days you need and let someone else work. the r.r. is a job that works seven days a week all hrs of the day enjoy your off time now like i do.

Name: Cee E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 October 2009 You're fucked. Level three is too late.

Name: No Work E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 October 2009 CEE, What is the secret? any word of advice for a Brother? (Have investigation for not working enough, next week, TM says its a "step 3"?)

Name: Cee E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 October 2009 I miss very little with the family. It is a game. My co workers bitch and snicker behind my back. I have been in attendance handling nearly constantly for 10 years. You learn the attendance policy and how to stay ahead of it. You make a choice to either be CSX's bitch or you make a choice not to. It's that simple.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 October 2009 Hey Amanda: If your fiance is smart enough to figure how to get every day off he needs, he's in the wrong career...he should be the Emperor of the know and unknown universe! CSX has over the last 5 or 6 years shut down the system on Thanksgiving and Christmas to allow the employees to enjoy the holiday with their families. If he plays games marking up on jobs he knows he can't hold just to get rolled off it for a off day, he's just kidding you and him self. I think he is a new hire with less than a couple of years and just blowing smoke up your skirt. If you don't believe me, just marry him and see how much time he really has off...it will all be personal leave days or daily vacation days which is only about 13 days the first few years. Everything else is AWOL and subject to attendance handling!

Name: Amanda E-mail: hugnkiss419@hotmail.com Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 October 2009 I'm sorry but for an employer to pay an employee to sit at the house and just be "available" and still see a $1200 (after taxes) pay check should be able to handle the rules of the game. If you don't like getting paid to sit at home and do fucking nothing then don't work for CSX. When my fiance was picked to go to CSX school he was told we are now your wife, kids, mother,father, and etc. don't expect to be off for every event that your family has. My fiance has never missed a christmas or thanksgiving holiday because unlike you he knows how to call and say what is available for me to mark up on and usually he will pick the job that allows him to have the day off he needs. Most jobs do not gaurantee you time off for every event in your life. I work 5 days a week 8-4:30 and I have had to work on days when I would like to be off.

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 06 October 2009 Wow Eng 1-10 I must have hit a real soft spot with you. Let me clarify my words more carefully before you go off on a damn rant again. First of all, there is nothing cowardly about me sir. I've only noticed you post one thing on this site (or so I know of) and I've been posting on here for at least a couple of years. If you want to quit, that is your call, but if you got treated like you said you did then you should do something about it. I'm sure everyone has their own definition of what a coward is but here is mine. Someone who lets people get the best of them. Someone who tuck tails and runs away from their problems. Someone who is afraid to speak out against what is wrong. I've said on this site a hundred times if another great opportunity came I'd leave in a heartbeat but I wouldn't leave without speaking my mind first. Oh and another thing, good for you for leaving. Maybe you had another great opportunity or you don't have children to support, or you got another job with good benefits and you have time off on the weekends. Why be contrary though? You come on here one day and talk about why you leave and all the things you can't stand about this company and then you come back and praise it for all it has done for you? Sounds like you quit and are already regretting it. I might absolutely detest this company for what it is but I still love the job I do. So maybe its shame on me for staying and bitching, or maybe its shame on you for quitting and killing your retirement plan. You can look at it however you want, but as long as this site exists, I'll bitch anytime I feel like it and you can either scroll down, or read and respond.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 06 October 2009 You did the best thing for you. I wouldn't cast judgement on those who'll stick it out with the railroad just like no one should judge your decision. The railroad has never been for everyone. It takes a lot of dedication and sacrifice even in good times. People overlook the bad times if their making money. Once times get rough it's everyone elses fault.

Name: Shame on Lloyd. E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 06 October 2009 Dear Lloyd, I believe it is you, not me, that has the score of CSX 1, you 0. You are the one staying at CSX, filled with hate. You personally would never do the things you suggested to me. No, you incite, bitch and moan about where you work. You sir, are nothing more than a lemming, doing what you are told, at the minimum effort you can muster. You are a miserable man filled with hate. 30 years of going to a job you hate, and with people you hate is such a waste. I pity you. I made a decision to leave and you tell me how I should screw over a company that paid me 446,548.16 over 10 years. You tell me that beacause you don't have the courage to do those things your self. I found the courage to leave thru family, friends and myself. I wonder if you have that type of support, I doubt it. If you did you still would not have the courage to leave. You live in the land of OZ.....as the Scarecrow you reveal that you lack a brain. As a Cowardly Lion your fear makes you inadequate. You do not understand that courage means acting in the face of fear. As the Woodsman, you lack the heart to use your axe for good purposes. Only using it to chop other people and thier decisions down. Did I have bad days on the RR, yes. Did I have good days on the RR, yes. I had reached the pinnacle of what I was going to do for 20 more years. Well there are many ways to be happy and make money, other than being a serf to a self serving managment. Everyone has free will to make choices,and then act on them. I made mine and you critize me, unbelievable. You sir, have made a decision to be a serf. If you are happy with it then so be it. Can't you be happy for someone that isn't a serf?

Name: Dead Peasant E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 October 2009 http://jonathanturley.org/2009/02/25/peasant-uprising-widow-sues-late-husbands-employer-over-dead-peasant-insurance-policy/ "the employer of her late husband Daniel Johnson was to receive $1.6 million after his death under a practice known in the industry as a “dead peasant” insurance policy. Under this common practice, employers take out life insurance on employees and write off the payments as a business expense. They then collect a windfall when one of the “peasants” die." CSX do this?

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 October 2009 Hey Eng 1-10, I think you made a big mistake and you let the company win. If you were going to quit anyway you should at least go out with a bang and either try and organize some people who had your same thought process or punched one of the trainmasters who treated you like scum. Hell, why not even expose them for what they are doing where you are at by giving other employees interviews and asking them how they feel about the company. They have it coming and when I finally see it on television I'll laugh my ass off because this is a new generation of youtube and exposing terrible companies. Someone will be the first to do it, might as well be you right? Right now its CSX 1, you 0.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 October 2009 Damn. Must have worked on the Florence Division!!

Name: Shame on you CSX E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 October 2009 Dear CSX management, I have resigned my postion with you. I know my traimasters, and the corporation could care less. When a drunk traimaster with as erious problem calls you on your rest day at 3 am to yell at you, not once but twice, It time to consdir leaving. I made my decision after a terminal manager back the traimaster and not me. There is not one supervisor that has a spine at CSX. I ueuss when you go to TM school, you sign a release to relinquish your mind, heart, and soul. Oh and any compassion you might have. That is why I left. In 9 years of working there, not once was I given a thank you. I used my cell phone to move my train. I showed up early to make sure that my conductor and I had proper paperwork. I did not get paid for that time, It was my choice.I did everything safely, and on time. I understand the unions are deep in your pockets and vise versa. You say you want us to work by safety rules everyday. Then you send spies to watch us. So, the company doesn't trust its employees to do the right thing. God forbide if you do something out of the ordinary. The spies don't tell you, just send a letter. In my records, I was observed on days I didn't work and failed some obscure rule. That's your trainmasters, RFE's setting the example. Tm's will lie about on time departures, as I have personally been late leaving the terminal, only to find out, on paper I was on time. Once there was a 2 hour difference. I have no respect for liars and the thieves in the union. They have sold everything I and many men before me worked hard for. The BLE and UTU have made secret handshakes behind closed doors. Top union officals are elected and don't have a pot to piss in. Funny when they leave they are very very wealthy. I wonder why? and how that can be. Between management,the unions, they have taken every thing from me. But they didn't take my soul, work ethic, and morals. Thats all I have left, my own morals, work ethic and self repect.CSX has tried to take all that away from me and others. I refuse to compromise. I have no idea what I will do. All I know is i have moved on. I am trying very hard to get the taste of crap that CSX tried to shove down me. I thank the good people that took time to show me how to railroad. I will never forget them. The rest of you, I hope there is a special place in hell for you. I have seen the hell at called CSX, and therefore I say goodbye.

Name: Thanks for Nothing E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 September 2009 There is a lot of truth in this site. I tried for over a year to get a career started with CSX through two testing sessions and two job interviews. The jobs was for the Russell roundhouse and the Russell yard. Both were a waste of my time and theirs as it was all a put on for the public. Mr. Skinhead (the top management offical) was very obnoxious and acted as if he was retarded. During the interviews he acted like it was a bother for him to be there. Of course it was as he knew who was going to get the jobs. The very people that are complaining about working. I was willing to work any shift any hour and start with a forward look to a new career with responsibility. But instead I was treated like I was a crimminal and wasting his time for showing up to take a test he probably can't pass and never saw as he probably had the inside track for his job. I was at first disppointed that I didn't get a career to enjoy but after I found out how the positions were filled I jumped with joy. Whoever you knew the most in top management at CSX got you the job, not on your skills that could be used for the commpany's interest. Well Mr. Skinhead I hope you enjoy the people you hired and get everything coming to you. I hope the company sees the truth in you and puts you on skidrow where you belong. No wonder people are complaining if all CSX management likes the look of you.

Name: Lefty E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 24 September 2009 Lord suck. Can you give us some suck heisman hopefuls like jack vierlings reach Round move he does for frulla or let's see how about rob brownells keg stand at the Csx safety stand down. Woops forgot what they told me about drinking and driving ......... Mr pendergrass what are those blue lights flashing for ? Is thAt a breThaluzer or are they just glad ro see me

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 24 September 2009 It sure is nice to mark off safety and collect good money for not doing squat. The only down side is I have to kiss the trainamster's ass to mark off, but man it sure beats working.

Name: Lord SuckaLot E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 24 September 2009 Fool. Its not me. Executive SuckaLots would never do such a disgusting underhanded thing like impersonating a Union Monkey. It is beneath our dignity, and our CLASS rank. Go now, be humble, do what you monkies do - pick your nose or scratch your butt or mate or something. Your Executive Head Master, LORD SUCKALOT King of CSX Suckdome CSX Executive Haidmaiden to God Triple Sex Sickma Kung Foo Master Pink Belt Neon Red Illuminati 35th Rank Supreme Ass Kisser

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 23 September 2009 OK! I see you like to my screen name. I wonder if you are Man enough to come out and give us your real name! You can play all the games you want, but you are starting to bore the he'll out of me. I am starting to beleive this is Suckassalot that is using my name. After all only he would come up with constant anal penetration. Come on now GET A LIFE! Go play with Bonzo your wife and use your own screen name! You are nothing but a Fucking loser- What Happened to you while you were growing up? I wonder that your mother didn't give you the hugs & kisses, did she spike you on the floor like a football or did she let your father, uncles and their friends & neighbors molest you! I could go on but your not even worth it, life is short just like yourself with nobody wants to be your friend you are what other people would call a No Life Hermit. What is your pupose in life? Why do you choose to try & Fuck with my name and post your Bullshit! Forget it you FUCKING JUNGLE CRICKET!

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 23 September 2009 Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen. We here at CSX do really not appreciate your concerns of Safety, Behaviors of Train Masters, and other Supervision Personnel. I am going to launch a missle into these concerns. I have also created a more aggressive team of Nazi Investigators headed by the recreated Home Office of the Mobile Officer I. (HOMO I). This Office will Investigat all the Claims that were posted here and forward the results to the proper Personnel for interrogation and torture, and will stick a spike up your ass. HOMO I will also Ignore all alledged white collar crime and thoroughly investigate all union thefts that have been increasing of CSX Property. There will be a change of Command so there will be total confusion such the CSX Police will no longer fall under Stupidity and Lackies- They will be deployed under the new name of Honor Organization Mobile Offfice II (HOMO II) Units this Unit will fall under the Un-enforcement Arm of HOMO I. The Newly created HOMO I Office of the HOMO II mployees are Sworn Nazi Enforcement Whores of Transporation Surrogates (NEWTS) Federal Commishoned Special Agents. I must inform all Employees that the Newly created Office is unlike the CSX Police. They are Naked Homo Special Agents they can be Identified by their issued Fig Leaves and rusty spikes just for Suckassalot. If encountered by a Naked Agent you are to give full compliance (bend over) or face formal Discipline Charges. The Office of the HOMO will also Investigate all baseless Threats, Racial Descrimination, Etc. CSX has an absolute Tolerence Policy for Work Place Violence, Racial Discrimination and Sexual Fornication. All Reports, including videos and pictures, will be forwarded to myself for my personal private review and will be dealt with accordingly. This can or will lead up to Promotion and Six Sigma training for any managment personnel, and Termination and Criminal Charges on any union employee violators. The Selection Process has already started with a few members in here by utilyzing their Information Provided and their Home HTML Connections, such as NoMo, RRJ, Lloyd, Suckassalot, Sam the Slave, Binheer2long, Goober, and many others. I am Pleased to Provide an Extra layer of Protection on our Dedicated Managers and Supervisors, and stick spikes up the asses of jackoffs like suckassalot. I would like to Thank You for taking out time to read this Announcement. Have a very Safe Day. M. Ward All stupid Employees are Required to have your CSX Idetification visable at all times while on Company Property.

Name: Mike Ward E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 23 September 2009 Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen. We here at CSX do really appreciate your concerns of; Safety, Behaviors of Train Masters, and other Supervision Personnel. I am going to launch a Investigation into these concerns. I have also created a more aggressive team of Investigators headed by the recreated Office of the Inspector General (OIG). This Office will Investigat all the Claims that were posted here and forward the results to the proper Personnel. The Office of the Inspector General (OIG) will also Investigate all alledged white collar crime as well as Thefts that have been increasing of CSX Property. There will be a chain of Command so there will be no confusion such the CSX Police will no longer fall under Security and Safety- They will be deployed under the new name of Mobile Tactical Units this Unit will fall under as the Enforcement Arm of the Office of the Inspector General (OIG). The Newly created Office of the Inspector General(OIG) Employees are Sworn Law Enforcement Officials (LEO) Federal Commishoned Special Agents. I must inform all Employees that the Newly created Office is unlike the CSX Police. They are Plain Clothed Special Agents they can be Identified by their issued Credentials and Badge. If encountered by a Special Agent you are to give full compliance or face formal Discipline Charges. The Office of the Inspector General(OIG) will also Investigate all Threats, Racial Descrimination, Etc. CSX has a Zero Tolerence Policy for Work Place Violence and Racial Discrimination. All Reports will be forwarded to myself for review and be dealt with accordingly. This can or will lead up to Termination and Criminal Charges on any violators. The Selection Process has already started with a few members in here by utilyzing their Information Provided and their Home HTML Connections. I am Pleased to Provide an Extra layer of Protection on our Dedicated Employees. I would like to Thank You for taking out time to read this Announcement. Have a very Safe Day. M. Ward All Employees are Required to have your CSX Idetification visable at all times while on Company Property.

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years Posted: 22 September 2009 Why dont no one respond to my post? Are you all deaf AND dumb? I see why nothing on safety gets done on the railroad it is because all you morons have spikes up your asses just like suckassalot the homo. Don' t waste any more of my time with your Kaos bullshit or I will find you and stick creosote up your ass and set your ass on fire.

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 September 2009 HELLO, HELLO! Safety Strike , Nomo & Others ! Have you even read what I POSTED! Damn you guys are Ignorant or Blind! I have said that we do have the right to REFUSE! Any job that can or will put us in harms way! We are all Granted this Right under the FRA. Why are we bitching when there is a route there already! The Company can not retaliate against you! Once you excercise you right to Refuse! No.1, Document the Situation and have witnesses sign it. If no witness is there then document it yourself! Try to Excersise this right with the proper Supervision! If nothing is done then Report it to the FRA! Point Blank This is our Rights that you may not know of or the Company hides from you! I am tired of hearing the Bitching! We have our Rights so let's use them! The Company can tell us 1 Thing but it is up to the FRA that throws in the Final Ruling!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 September 2009 HOMOPHOBIC BIGOTRY....

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 September 2009 Hey Suckassalot, The only thing I would like to scream is YOU when I find out who you are! A Bitch can run but can't hide forever. Your name will be found out & I will be more than happy to share it here! Your days are running out you Bitch Ass Homo.

Name: Lord SuckaLot E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 17 September 2009 Monkey Boys, Your next assignment: http://www.stinalisa.com/HokeyPokey.html Love and Kisses, Lord SuckaLot CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 September 2009 How I would love to drive a spike between the eyes of suckassalot! There is only word to describe sirsuckassalot & that is 100% LOSER! Too much time on his hands to be any kind of Employee! So here is some words of advice you, Monkey! Sit back & read but don't post you should enjoy it while you choke on a banana! Turn red & blue then just Die! You will not be missed at all. Nobody ever misses an asshole such as yourself! I wonder are you enjoying yourself or are you really that bored? It's time to seperate the Idiots from the Men! How could you call yourself a real man, after all you admit that you are a Flaming Homo! I guess your mother is proud of her long lost little girl! Now I must admit I was against abortions but after reading your posts you are mainly 1 that escaped! This dosen't at all excuse you! Please just let me find out who you are, I will eventually find out it dosen't take a rocket scientist either. A Monkey that you are will try to avoid detection after all that's a Monkey's natural defense. You are definetly overdue for a confrontation! I don't care what you try to respond back with. A mind is a shameful thing to waste, but as we can tell your mind is Gone! Now as for a comeback it is way to late! Once a Retard always a Retard that there is no if's or but's about it. So go Fuck Your own Monkey Ass! Obey this as if were M. Wards Directive. Remember Managers like to obey & not to disapoint a Directive, you are sure a run in a mil along with the other Suck Ups in Management!

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 September 2009 CSX TRANSPORTATION " How We Move to Destroy Jobs and the Work Forces " NEW JOB POSTING CSX HEADQUARTERS Jacksonville, FL. TITLE: HEAD MASTER SALARY: VARIES $4.50 HR - Access Card Deposited HOURS: M - F WITH MADNATORY WEEKENDS. HOURS: 7A- 3P BUT SUBJECT TO 24 HOUR RULES. DUTIES: Wipe the Asses of all of Senior Mangement. This includes and is not limited of using your tounge in place of toilet paper. Computer skills are not required, a pencil and paper is acceptable since the price of printer ink is outrageous. Must be an Alcohol or Narcotics user at all times. Must at all times think that you are better than all Unionized Employees. QUALIFICATIONS - Pre School Dropout, No Common Sense, Drools, Basic Math, Writing. RETARDS will Be the first prefence with an additional 5500 Points. College Degrees will place in last prefence with -2500 Points. This job was created for a Brown Noser who's Name is suckalot! All others Need Not Apply.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 September 2009 Lord suck a lot....a person who thinks he/she is clever, witty, etc. How sad that one who obviously suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder does not see what a fool he/she is - of course those who suffer from the disorder never see themselves for what they are. Lord Suck - you need help.

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 September 2009 My oh my, Suckalot talks alot of shit! Corporate idiots are chosen and hired by the severity of retardation,isn't this correct suckassalot! The Corporation seems to be looking for a handout from the Government point blank. How much money was wasted to buy Conrail! This was a failure that is being shoved on the employees by forms of furloghs. Too bad people want to joke around with somebody's livelyhood. It does not suprise me that he talks about knob polishing, such a flaming Homosexual. I bet he's into child porn also. The way he tries to be creative is a waste of talent that makes it no wonder that he does work in Corporate. I have to ask that will he e er admit his real name or is he such a coward and continue to hide and post stupid comments! I am not even going to put myself through this Bullshit. I have better things to do instead of trying to make out his useless comments. Hello suckassalot, you must have plenty of time on your hands, I know you must be Furloghed yourself! The RRB Unemployment sucks dosen't it you have to sit there and wait for your pay every 2 weeks. The Corporate side isn't anymore protected than a tick on a dog's ass. I have seen Managers come and go for years now and it dosen't bother me one bit. As for you a speck in a Corporate world change can happen over night, in our world we can just bump, transfer etc. and still have a job. CSX Sucks dosen't it that they hired just to fire you. What a waste of a college degree just to wind up unemployed. So you can continue your useless life by posting all the dumb comments you want! but just remember we are the backbone of this pathetic corporation. Madman the Enemy of all Corporations

Name: Binheer2long E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 September 2009 Lloyd, While you are on the union thing, one of my dispatchers told me that the dispatchers union HQ is moving out of the BLE building in Cleveland and bought one of there own. Surely the BLE did not kick them out, I heard they were paying $5000 per month for office space and the privlege of using the ATDD/BLE logo! She said this was published this week in the Train Dispatcher rag with only the usual BS for a reason. She went on to inform me that the merge of the ATDA and the BLE was never formally signed! Then she really blew me away when (Lord Suck-a-tash will like this one) she said the ATDA boss could, "Suck start a Harley". Any of you Dispatchers out there got any good scuttle on this one? Hell, we needed the money!

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 September 2009 Hey conductor 1-10 don't get your panties in a wad yet, I've got more comments for the guys in Selkirk. While I don't think every guy up there is a complete puss, I think you guys are the ones with the power to make a stand, not your god damn union. You think your union will stand up to the company? Give me a damn break man! It takes a group of people with a common goal to make a statement and you guys failed to do that. I'm not putting the blame on the men up there for Jerod's death but I did challenge you guys to do something about it on this site and from what I heard little or nothing was done. You guys had ample opportunity to call off a day or make it clear to CSX that you weren't going to stand for anymore of their shit and you all failed. Once again, I don't want to shift all blame on everyone because I'm sure some tried to make a statement. I guess some men will live there whole lives being the scared little bitches they are but some of us have balls. If my friend was murdered from an act of stupidity by a supervisor you bet your ass I'd do something about it. CSX can claim it was his own fault all day but we all know guys shouldn't be running remote operations by themselves. These mother fuckers literally get away with murder and we all sit idly by and do absolutely nothing and better yet..our UNIONS do absolutely NOTHING!! Sorry conductor 1-10, you hit a nerve with me and until someone takes a stand for what happened up there, I'll continue to feel the way I do. Be a fucking man and make it happen...for Jerod's sake.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 September 2009 In response to the comments about union brothers sticking together in selkirk,We do stick together their,but it was the General Chairman Dick McVeen who did'nt do shit about anything except sit on his old rotton ass out in western NY on the local level , they stick together pretty good any time their is a problem my vice local chairman always returns their phone calls and at least makes a effort to always help his fellow union brothers in the yard.Hopefully the general chairman will get voted out in the future so things mightbe different but until that happens we have to stick together in the yard.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 September 2009 CSX Intermodul is different then the railroad operations. Like NoMo stated you could go to your local chairmen from the TCU and see about a leave of absence. I wouldn't go in stating you need it to look for another job. Tell them you're thinking about going back to school. Years ago we were allowed to collect unemployment for days not worked. If we only worked 7 days in two weeks we collected 3 days unemployment benefits. This was before the railroad an unions negotiated gaurentees for extra boards. That might be an option to check in to for supplementing your income. Are you under railroad retirement system or the state of Florida for unemployment benefits? I've been out of the Social Security or state unemployment system for so long I haven't a clue how they work. It seems it would be fair to give someone who is employed fulltime but because of economic situations not getting at least 40 hours per week the right to have a supplemental income till times get better. Are you on call 24/7 or do fill in for shift work? Just curious about the possibility of a second job.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 September 2009 If your furloughed you don't need a leave of absence; if you're not, have you filled out the appropriate paperwork?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 September 2009 Why cant I have a leave of absence to find another job? If work is so far down, why cant I take 6 months to work full time somewhere else? Oh and the raise was $.08 A DAY! Thats $.01 an hour!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 September 2009 I say screw it all and take a vacation. Life is short. The Selkirks and Corbins will always be around - dont worry, everytime someone is killed a vacancy transfer pops up so there will be opportunities to transfer when you get back from the Bahamas.

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 September 2009 Yeah Nomo, those guys in Selkirk really stuck together on that whole incident with Jerod. What a fucking joke. Thats the worst example of union unity you could come up with. The guy took a direct order from a trainmaster that cost him his life and those guys did nothing that I ever heard about. Yeah, go to Selkirk where your so called union brothers hang you out to dry!!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 September 2009 Wasn't Jared Boehlke from Selkirk and a member of Local 212 in Albany, N.Y.? I don't remember reading anything Local 212 did to hold CSX's feet to the fire except offer platitudes!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 September 2009 Hello friends, I would just like to take this time to wish everyone a Happy Labor Day! It's September 7, 2009.....Although I hate to say it, CSX Still SUCKS!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 September 2009 Go to Selkirk, the guys stick together! Selkirk is just about the only terminal that has a real union theses days.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 September 2009 Go for it. If it was me I'd choose Kentucky compared to New York. Cost of living is less expensive and Corbin sounds like a nice place to live. There are plenty of outdoor activities in the area.

Name: ME E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 06 September 2009 I got this the other day please tell what should i do?? PERMANENT TRANSFER TO CORBIN/LOYALL, KY OR SELKIRK, NY THE COMPANY IS OFFERING TO ALL CSXT TRAIN SERVICE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE IN ACTIVE SERVICE ON AUGUST 27, 2009, ON THE DATE OF THIS BULLETIN, (INCLUDING FURLOUGHED STATUS) AT THE ABOVE CSXT LOCATIONS LISTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO PERMANENTLY TRANSFER TO CORBIN/LOYALL, KY OR SELKIRK, NY. VACANCIES BEING FILLED BY THIS TRANSFER NOTICE: LOCATION DISTRICT CORBIN/LOYALL, KY L&N CONSOLIDATED KENTUCKY SELKIRK, NY CR NORTHERN CONSISTENT WITH THE NEEDS OF SERVICE, CSXT RESERVES THE RIGHT TO RESTRICT THE LOCATIONS TRAINMEN ARE SELECTED FROM, AND TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF TRANSFERS WHICH WILL BE GRANTED. APPLICATIONS WILL BE ACCEPTED FROM CSXT TRAIN SERVICE EMPLOYEE IN ACTIVE SERVICE (INCLUDING FURLOUGHED STATUS) FROM ALL LOCATIONS AND FROM THE CLASS OF SERVICE SPECIFIED. APPLICANTS MUST BE APPLYING FOR A MOVE OUTSIDE OF THEIR CURRENT SENIORITY DISTRICT. APPLICANTS WILL BE SELECTED BY LOCATION IN SENIORITY ORDER. HOWEVER, THE CARRIER RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REJECT APPLICANTS IF THEY HAVE ANY FORMAL DISCIPLINE ASSESSED IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS UNDER EITHER IDPAP OR THE ABSENTEEISM POLICY. TRAINMEN WHO ACCEPT THIS OFFER WILL FORFEIT HIS/HER CURRENT SENIORITY AND WILL CONTINUE AT PRESENT RATE PROGRESSION LEVEL FOR PAY PURPOSES AND VACATION ENTITLEMENTS ONLY ON THE NEW DISTRICT. TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF PERMANENT TRANSFER: 1. RELINQUISH ALL OPERATING CRAFT SENIORITY, INCLUDING CONDUCTOR/ TRAINMEN, ENGINEER/FIREMEN AND YARDMASTER. 2. ESTABLISH TRAINMAN'S SENIORITY AT THE NEW TERRITORY UPON THE FIRST DATE OF QUALIFYING ON THE NEW TERRITORY AND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE ROSTER AND BEHIND ANY CURRENT TRAINEES. 3. RETAIN YEARS OF SERVICE FOR VACATION ENTITLEMENTS. 4. BE PAID TO QUALIFY ON THE NEW TERRITORY FOR UP TO 30 DAYS. 5. RECEIVE ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION PER THE FOLLOWING SCHEDULE; $1,000 UPON PROOF OF ARRIVING AT THE NEW LOCATION $2,000 UPON QUALIFYING ON THE NEW TERRITORY $4,000 12 MONTHS AFTER QUALIFYING $3,000 24 MONTHS AFTER QUALIFYING 6. APPLICANTS SELECTED FOR TRANSFER MUST REMAIN AT THE LOCATION THEY ARE CHOSEN FOR, SENIORITY PERMITTING, FOR TWO (2) YEARS. DURING THE TWO YEAR PERIOD, THE EXERCISING OF SENIORITY TO ANOTHER CONSOLIDATED SENIORITY DISTRICT LOCATION IS ONLY PERMISSIBLE WHEN AN APPLICANT'S SENIORITY DOES NOT PERMIT THEM TO REMAIN EMPLOYED AT THE INITIAL SUPPLY POINT. 7. REPORT TO THE NEW LOCATION WITHIN 10 DAYS OF NOTIFICATION. 8. IF A VOLUNTARY SEPARATION PROGRAM IS OFFERED IN YOUR NEW SENIORITY DISTRICT AT SOME FUTURE DATE AND YOU REQUEST SEPARATION (AND SUCH REQUEST IS ACCEPTED BY THE COMPANY), THE COMPANY MAY DEDUCT ALL TRANSFER PAYMENTS RECEIVED UNDER THIS AGREEMENT FROM SUCH FUTURE SEPARATION AGREEMENT. 9. BE PROVIDED MEAL ALLOWANCE (NOT TO EXCEED $12.00 PER DAY) AND COMPANY PROVIDED LODGING FOR THIRTY (30) DAYS. 10.BE ENTITLED TO CARRIER-PROVIDED LODGING FOR 30 DAYS. LODGING AT THE AWAY TERMINALS WILL BE PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE LABOR AGREEMENT. NOTE: IN THE EVENT AN EMPLOYEE RECEIVES THE BENEFITS UNDER THIS NOTICE AND DOES NOT REMAIN AT THE LOCATION TO WHICH HE TRANSFERRED BY HIS OWN ELECTION FOR A PERIOD OF TWO (2) YEARS, HE WILL BE REQUIRED TO REIMBURSE THE COMPANY FOR THE MONETARY TRANSFER ALLOWANCES PAID TO HIM.

Name: Lord SuckaLot E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 06 September 2009 My Dearest Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years (name withheld for fear of being persecuted)... First, let me congratulate you on behalf of CSX Intermodal on a job well done. Without you hard working stiffs out there humpin those pigs we here at CSX executive headquarters would have to hire illegal Mexicans to do your work - so basicly you and others like you saved our ass from the Feds. For that we would never, ever, persecute you. Trust me. We certainly think highly of you. So high in fact, that we have special one way tickets for you to see St. Paul at the Pearly Gates. Oh, well wait a minute...that applies only if you die on the job, which probably will eventually happen anyway. It is a shame that you have not worked but 40 hours since June 15th, but we are in a recession in case you haven't heard - not our fault you cant read. And not our fault you took the job. Bwaaahahahahaha, you moron. Yes, you have to sit around and wait to be called. We Execs call that, 'playin with your pecker time'. That's why we hired you - and why we picked you cause you were being so good to respond to commands like "Sit", "Stay", "Fetch", "Roll Over", "bark". Why else would anyone be so stupid to work for $14 a hour just to get shit canned in less than 30 days? Oh come on. You gotta see the evil humor in it. We do. By the way, do you like bananas? If your gross income was $1100, that's $1,100 more than Charles Manson made sitting in his prison cell. Think about how lucky you are to have made ANY money is this rotten economy. And your bitch'n?!?! Only an ungrateful bastard would bitch about making money. Are you one? Your pay scale is not a lot lower than everyone else in the company. We do have "interns" who work for free at CSX Suck University. If you any good at sucking, you should enroll. You pay only $5,000 to receive the best sucking instructions anywhere in the world. We graduate thousands of ass kissing butt suckers every year, and you could be the next lucky person to have a career in sucking - like me! Oh yes, you may have received 'only' an 8 cent an hour increase last year, but remember: number '8' is a lucky number. Not everyone gets that number. Your special. Not like a wet back. Special like a monkey. Do you like boogers? We do have a shoe shine opening in the Executive Suite, if your interested. There is no pay, but the exposure would do you a world of good - if you know what I mean. (chuckle). In the meantime, have a nice Labor Day, and don't forget to attend our Party of Turkeys for the Blue Collar Class tomarrow at CSX Headquarters on Water Street. Just ask for Lord SuckaLot at the door - the guard will let you in with no problem. See you there! Sincerely, Lord SuckaLot CSX Executive Handmaiden to God and Organizer of the 1ST Annual HQ 2009 Blue Collar Turkey n' Beer Party.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 05 September 2009 If you want to push back, you can take up to 30 days after displacement to mark up. Talk to the GC. After 30 days you are removed from the roster.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years Posted: 05 September 2009 I currently work for CSX Intermodal - FL ramp.I do not wish to list which ramp for fear of being persecuted. And I know most of you transportation/maint. guys dont think very highly of "Us". But the fact is we are TCU employees and employed by CSX not some contractors union. I have worked all of about 40 hrs since June 15. So I am supposed to sit around and wait to be called in to work. Gross income since June is about $1100. Another thing I notice is our pay scale is alot lower than the rest of the company. We ISW's only $14.24 an hour. When we work. Last year we received a "Cost of Living" raise that consisted of $.08 A DAY!!!

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 05 September 2009 I am kind of upset that my union is not doing anything about me being charged with absenteeisn while I am off in dispaced status. Anita the truant officer says that if I take my full bump time she can charge my work record with being absent. How can I be charged with being absent if I have a contract right to take the necessary time to make a bump. Sounds like Anita and her crowd are pushing the general chairmen right out of business. I guess we have to call her instead of the GC when we have a question. But then why am I paying those dorks the money for union dues?

Name: Lord SuckaLot E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 04 September 2009 Dear Mr. Ape Man, Your invited to the party, too. I know you hairy baboons are vegetarians and dont eat turkey but we will have plenty of bananas and boogers to go around, enough for you and all the little monkeys in your family. Enjoy! Sincerely, Lord SuckaLot CSX Handmaiden to God

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 September 2009 It's September 3, 2009.....and CSX STILL SUCKS!

Name: Lord SuckaLot E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 03 September 2009 Dear Sarah, I am very sorry to hear of your sister's predicament that you believe is caused by CSX. I can assure you we are working on the problem. If you are ever in Jacksonville Florida, please stop in at the CSX Headquarters on Water Street. If you do happen to make it here be sure to stop at the guard's station and sign the Guest Register. Be sure to ask the guard for me by name: Lord SuckaLot (Executive Suite). I will be more than happy to assist you if at all possible. Sincerely, Lord SuckaLot

Name: sara E-mail: saradavies17@msn.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 30 August 2009 Hi there my name is Sara Davies I have just returned from Lakeland Florida USA, appalled at the way CSX are KILLING MY YOUNGER SISTER,??? WE NEED HELP, I HAVE THE FILM WORK AND NOTHING HAPPENS, THE NEXT STEP IS TI SHOW THE WORLD VIA YOU TUBE AND OTHER MEDIA OUTETS.

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 August 2009 Dear Sam- As a follow up, as I said I would, I emailed the two lawyers on exposure RT claims and both responded that they have each handled cancer and brain tumor type cases from long term exposure to diesel and other carcinogen cases and would definitely look at taking these type claims. I hope that, with the above, all your inquiries have been answered. Take care, Steve

Name: sam the slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 August 2009 I would say attendance would be very poor around cheesy body odor. Some guys dont shower for weeks and you'd think they were rotting corpses except for the snoring. Poor attendance there too.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 28 August 2009 this site sucks! the people on here are not even talkin' about the subject of attendence? wake up and look at what you all are talking about! they have already won!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 27 August 2009 Hey Jason: Are body noises the same as farts? The noises aren't nearly as disgusting as the aromas!

Name: JASON E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 27 August 2009 I am posting this for the new bees who think they have it so tough on the road, When i first hired in the 70,s we had bunk houses to take rest at away from home terminals, Most were run by the YMCA ha ha what a joke that was, A lot of them were set up like army barracks ya know a bunch of guys sleeping in one big room with only a cloth curtain between the bunks, The body noises were discusting to say the least, And the wash rooms were also the same as a army boot camp barracks, 20 sinks in a row and 20 toliets in a row and a the shower room was the same, 1 big room with 20 shower heads so we could all see each other naked,, Yea talk about no personal privacy on the railroad, Well thats how it was ditto, And yes it sucked, I was the most happy person on the rr when they closed those discusting filty rat holes and thats what they were and some did not even have AC..... Yea man good ole railroading at its best???? I should have slept in a box car, At least i would have had some privacy.

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 August 2009 Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 25 August 2009 Steve, What would you classify as a "seriously injured" railroad employee? (are you including diseases, psyche, toxic chemical exposure?) Can you give specific examples of particular injuries or cases you have in mind? How does the "loan to seriously injured employees" program work? (what happens if the firm looses at trial?) Has your firm had trial experience? Thanks. Sam ---------------------------- Dear Sam- Thank you for your questions. I will address each of your questions individually. Question:What would you classify as a "seriously injured" railroad employee?(are you including diseases, psyche, toxic chemical exposure?)Can you give specific examples of particular injuries or cases you havein mind? Answer: Quite frankly all the discussions with the two lawyers as to the types of injuries have all been involved around orthopedic injuries in nature and have not involved exposure type situations. After I post this, I will ask them. However, the types of injuries that have been discussed, and that I know they have an expertise in, range from disk herniations to the cervical and/or lumbar spine caused from whole body vibration (WBV); knee & ankle wear and tear from uneven ballast or ballast that should be smaller in size rather than larger; shoulder repetitive trauma seen, for example, in switchmen; and carpal & ulnar (elbow) tunnel syndrome. By the term "seriously injured", it is meant that the person cannot return back to his craft. Question: How does the "loan to seriously injured employees" program work? (what happens if the firm looses at trial?. Answer: In some states, it is permissible for an attorney to actually advance monies to clients while the client's case is pending to pay "necessaries". Necessaries can mean food, shelter, and other staples. In these cases, the lawyers sit down with the client and review the client's bills and there previous income. The advances, in the case of Gordon & Elias, L.L.P. are mad interest free and without recourse. That is, if the client does not receive money from the claim, they have no obligation to pay it back. It is, in essence, considered like all the other expenses put out in the prosecution of the client's case. There is no obligation for a lawyer to do this and the hiring of a lawyer should not be based upon this. It is simply, we believe an added benefit of being a Gordon & Elias client. If the firm loses at trial, there is no obligation to pay it back. It is, in the trues sense: "No recovery....then no fees or expenses are paid". Question: Has your firm had trial experience? Answer: Gordon & Elias has never tried a cumulative case as we have NEVER taken one and, absent these two lawyers, would not begin now. Each of these two lawyers have tried cumulative/repetitive trauma claims in many states and, perhaps more importantly, have successfully handled and settled MANY cumulative cases. For me personally, I have only had to try one FELA case to verdict. As with all personal injury cases, the key to "winning" is working as hard as one can in the "discovery" phase of the case to make the railroad (or whoever the defendant is) believe that, if they go to trial, they will lose and they will lose significantly. IF there is not a reasonable settlement offer, then you should go to trial and make sure to show up sober (Joke!). But, if you work up the case properly, the case should settle. Remember this- "There's never a horse that's never been rode and there's never been a man that's never been throwed". Translation= A reasonable settlement offer should be accepted because you never know what a jury will do for sure. Lawyers that say they have never lost a case at trial, simply (1) have not tried a lot of cases or (2) are lying. I have lost cases I should have won and won cases I should have lost and all in between. The issue with cumulative/trauma claims are that the railroads must take the posture they are BS. Because, if they do not, they are afraid the floodgates of litigation will overcome them. No question the railroads have had "personal" knowledge that, for instance, the engine vibration and the seats cause vibration spinal injuries. The lawyers we have teamed up with have all they relevant documents to prove this and they do not have to "re-invent" the wheel as they were some of the few lawyers that invented the wheel to begin with (at least as to repetitive claims. I hope this email answers your questions. Steve

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 August 2009 Dear All- I am proud to announce to you that the our firm has partnered with two totally separate law firms for the sole purpose of handling what is called repetitive or cumulative trauma [RT FELA Claims] FELA claims. Historically, the firm of Gordon & Elias, L.L.P., has only allowed itself to be hired for "one time" FELA traumatic events. This is true for two reasons: (1) First, we have always thought that, if we cannot do the best job possible for the injured worker, then we did not want to allow ourselves to be hired by them. I can tell you the RT FELA claims, even though they are asserted under FELA, are, in fact, very difficult to develop and it is required, in our opinion, to have a level of expertise that we did not have. Some lawyers simply take everything that walks in the door but in the end that does not, we feel anyway, benefit the client; and (2) the client gets what we feel is very important and that is what we call the Gordon & Elias, L.L.P. experience. Specifically, they get the cell phones of the lawyers that are handling their claim and, where ethically permitted to do so, Gordon & Elias advances them money on their case interest free. This is a very large commitment but, we feel, is a necessary commitment so the worker can pay their bills during the pendency of the claim. We have always thought that the most seriously injured claimants want to make a claim but, because of their economic responsibilities, cannot afford to do it. The two lawyers are in separate areas of the United States and that means their experience is each limited to specific railroads. The CSX "expert" is David Lockard and we are exceedingly proud that he has chosen us to work with. We will work with him in all cases where G&E is hired and that will provide, in essence, two law firms on the client's case for the same attorneys' fee as one firm. This, we feel is also a benefit to the client for many obvious reasons. There you have it and if someone has any further questions, please feel free to call me directly at 1-800-773-6770. I hope no one ever needs our services but, if you do, we would respectfully ask that you at least give us a chance to explain why we feel we would be your best choice. Sincerely, Steve Gordon

Name: Jim E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 August 2009 You guys are losers. CSX isn't a bad railroad. Every single company in the world (including every single railroad) has its mistakes, flaws, errors, accidents, etc. Why make fun of CSX? They're not bad. If you want to talk about a bad railroad, talk about Canadian National(CN). They have derailments almost weekly and have abandoned 3000 miles of track since 1992. They are also the cause of at least one VIA Rail accident which claimed 2 lives. CN is the one that sucks, not CSX.

Name: average joe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 August 2009 rrj i really dont think i am a racist brother i just know that the job market that i applied in well that town has a collective african amrican count of 3 in the entire population so yes that is why i said the things i did no i got the job and was never called kinda felt like i was all dressed up and no where to go you know so no im not racist until it comes to a large corp. trying to get there affermitave action quetes off of my small town all you guys reading black and white know its an insult to us all if a person gets a job because of their race black people dont want to pull the race card just niggers black people have skills and are just as ashamed as thier nigger counterparts as we white people are of our trailer trash white people all im say is if there was two white guys in bibs interviewing 400+ black men and 2 white men for 2 jobs who do you think they would pick if you were a black man tryin to get a job in a white town that is how i felt they i got the congratulations letter lol well give you a job BULLSHIT so yes csx does suck from tennessee all the fuckin way to lakeland florida

Name: Safety Strike E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 30+ years Posted: 21 August 2009 Labor Day would be the best day to have a Nationwide Safety Strike. The Teamsters will join in. It will be one big Holiday for Labor, and scare the crap out of Wall Street. I get goose bumps just thinkn about it.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 August 2009 First off I never post on every section on this website. I'll make an exception in this case. Average Joe You say you're not racist. You used the "N" word right from the start. You got hired then got furloughed. Join the club. Just about everyone who got hired the past year some have been working longer longer have been furloughed. It's the economy if you couldn't figure that one out seeing you state you have a college degree. No, instead you decided to rant and rave about if more blacks were at that hiring session you wouldn't of got the job. I'm going to repeat something no one wants to read. When a lot of us hired on the railroad we were furloughed at times. Some of us got furloughed on a regular basis because of seasonal business. Some were furloughed for years. It's not a new concept that the railroads have devised like outsourcing and downsizing. It's a matter of waiting your turn to get enough seniority till you can hold a regular job. Nothing hidden in it, it's plain and simple. I guess it's a type of weeding out those who'll stay and be dedicated and those who'll move on. All you did was join the pity party club. Those who feel how unfair it is. Those who wish all those oldheads would retire. Staying on the railroad is up to the individual either they can handle it or not it doesn't make a difference to the railroad. Those that are furloughed the statistics are only 10% will return. Maybe you belong to that club.

Name: average joe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 August 2009 well we all sit back and take it in the ass i got a job with csx back in october and still no fuckin job yeah two niggers interviewed me thank god there were any other brothers there other than them or i wouldnt have even got the fuckin imaginary job offer in the first place so here is what i say fuck affirmative action and fuck csx and all other companies and colleges who discriminate agianst white men and women dont act like you dont know you have all seen it i know i come off as racist but i am really not all im sayin is that if i was a black guy getting the job where i was supp0sed to go to work i would have my fucking imaginary goddamn house paid for by now i guess its my college that fuckin holds me back or the fact that my daddy didnt work for the railroad i dont know so there fuck it most of you all are well you knew someone so you got your job and fuck everybody else

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 July 2009 Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years.....BRO, you talk'n like a run away slave.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years Posted: 28 July 2009 I found that the easiest way to combat the railroads attendance policy was to quit. Now I get ALL the holidays off, three weeks of vacation, 5 days of bereavement leave, have all my weekends off, only work between 7am and 4 pm, and I make twice as much anually as I the day I left the railroad. The ONLY way to make the railroads change is to have anyone with any talent and ability to leave the railroad. Any thing less is a compromise that the railroad will always win.

Name: whatever E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years Posted: 25 July 2009 GET A LIFE YOU KNEW WHEN THEY HIRED YOU THAT YOU WERE ON CALL. SO GET OVER IT OR GO GET A JOB SOMEWHERE ELSE. NOONES MAKING YOU STAY. YOU NEW HIRES DO NOTHING BUT WHINE ABOUT EVERYTHING.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 July 2009 I go back many years.I never worked with any Engineer that was not a fireman, most came from steam. When I left in 1970 more than 60% of those Running, and several fixture firemen all came from steam. I made 1 trip with an Apprentice Engineer that was a former Brakeman. He did a nice job. I know this is a conflicting post, never then 1 but guess never should change to 1 ????Anyway His Daddy got him on the RR and got him as 1 of 3 into the apprentice program, and he has since retired from Engine service, guess it was a good thing. However he is still pissed with the motorcycle that I sold him in 1969 for $200.00 and Every Engineer was on my ass for selling him a piece of shit. I did----- Guilty as charged.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 July 2009 Union's have changed from being the saving grace for working men to a bunch of thieves. A Fireman (BLF&E) could not join the BLE until qualified. A trainman could not join the ORC, However they could leave the BRT and join the ORCB. There was always a place to send your money. I ran with Promoted Engineer's that still belonged to the BLF&E, boy did they catch hell. Just took a few years until they decided to join them rather than fight them. One really strong Engineer told me he could fight better from inside than outside????? Every Asshole on the L&N belonged to the ORC (Order of Railway Conductor's). The rest belonged to the BRT BLE BLF&E. Just the way it was back in the day.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 July 2009 The deadline to have been marked up in trainmen service to collect the $20,000 signing bonus was June 1, 1994. CSX marked up every cut back trainmen into engine servive on May 30th creating slots on the extra board or just left them in unassigned statis. After the deadline they were all cut back to trainmen and denied the money. The UTU went along with this charade. They never filed any appeal it was obvious that CSX made this move illegally. Goob on this one you're probably right on those who belonged to the BLE which was a small percentage. Back then people only transferred to the BLE once they stood to work as engineers permanently. Most of them were cut back engineers that belonged to the UTU. Something I still believe that a person should belong to the union that holds the contract for which they are working in.

Name: New Hire E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 July 2009 Hi, Im a new hire and there is nohthing I can do to improve my life i know that now but so what i make more than a begger so shut up be thankful you could be a sewar bum on welfare foodstamps like a deadbeeat be thankful the railrod gives you somehing.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 July 2009 im a new hire and went thru the pay scale. everyone is always going to want more money but quit bitching. there is nothing you can do about it. just be happy you have a job in times like these.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 July 2009 E-mail:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Perfect example of how union's work! Just like red board insurance. you pay and they play!!!! I just wonder what would have happened in the 1970's if a promoted (Trainman) Engineer had stayed with the UTU and paid duel due's. Most likely the same thing. ZERO Oh by the way there was a time in the 80's when the CSX moved the flagman to the locomotive, and bought a locomotive to haul all 4 of them with no Caboose. That was short lived. I would love to see some of the old Engineers cut back and try to collect. Now that would be a real life PONY SHOW. Cost hundred's of thousands of dollars telling the big E NO NO NO!!!! The scheduled time for claim's has expired! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 July 2009 Sam The UTU didn't have and still doesn't have any thought process the remote control agreement is a current prime example. In 1986 with the first crew consist when the caboose was being phased out the only loss was the flagman. The UTU gaureteed their members they would never sell out the last brakeman. All it took was 8 years later an offers of a $20,000 signing bonus plus $23,000 if a person wanted to sell out their productivity bonus. That secured it as a done deal. Even though if you ask any trainmen hired out before 1994 if they voted for it you get the same answer no one did. Engineers who went into engine service after 1978 who retained their trainmen seniority filed claims for the $20,000 signing bonus for the loss of a seniority slot. The UTU changed the agreement after it's signing by stating that only those marked up as trainmen were entitled to it. Crooked bastards. Funny part is engineers are still on trainmen rosters the kicker is we could still claim the money if we are ever cut back for at least 60 days. Wouldn't that be a kick in the UTU's arse if that ever happened 15 years later. Of course we know it never will happen and voluntary flow back doesn't count.

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 July 2009 Interesting. Some were caught betwix and between....a trainman applied for the $20k, was approved, but before approval went into engineer service, then was told by the carrier that he "missed the deadline' to receive the $20K (except that he did not miss any deadline - the Carrier just made up the rule to screw him out of his $20k"). Masta has lots a hidden "rules" when it comes to buyouts and payments - they comes and they goes at Masta's whim.....

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 July 2009 Sam The UTU didn't have and still doesn't have any thought process the remote control agreement is a current prime example. In 1986 with the first crew consist when the caboose was being phased out the only loss was the flagman. The UTU gaureteed their members they would never sell out the last brakeman. All it took was 8 years later an offers of a $20,000 signing bonus plus $23,000 if a person wanted to sell out their productivity bonus. That secured it as a done deal. Even though if you ask any trainmen hired out before 1994 if they voted for it you get the same answer no one did. Engineers who went into engine service after 1978 who retained their trainmen seniority filed claims for the $20,000 signing bonus for the loss of a seniority slot. The UTU changed the agreement after it's signing by stating that only those marked up as trainmen were entitled to it. Crooked bastards. Funny part is engineers are still on trainmen rosters the kicker is we could still claim the money if we are ever cut back for at least 60 days. Wouldn't that be a kick in the UTU's arse if that ever happened 15 years later. Of course we know it never will happen and voluntary flow back doesn't count.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 July 2009 A Russell crew working an ID job was 18 min. From being rested and were called for work. The phone rang again and the called said "sorry I disturbed your rest.I have to bust your call and start your rest over!!!" So needless to say 20 hours later they still were not called. I wonder if the crew caller got 20 hours away from home with no held away?

Name: Chicken Schitt eXpress E-mail: Jackschitt@csx.com Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years Posted: 18 July 2009 WHO IS JACK SCHITT? For some time many of us have wondered just who is Jack Schitt? We find ourselves at a loss when someone says, 'You don't know Jack Schitt!' Well, thanks to my genealogy efforts, you can now respond in an Intellectual way. Jack Schitt is the only son of Awe Schitt. Awe Schitt, the fertilizer magnate, married O. Schitt, the owner of Needeep N. Schitt, Inc. They had one son, Jack. In turn, Jack Schitt married Noe Schitt. The deeply religious couple produced six children: Holie Schitt, Giva Schitt, Fulla Schitt, Bull Schitt, and the twins Deep Schitt and Dip Schitt. Against her parents' objections, Deep Schitt married Dumb Schitt, a high school dropout. After being married 15 years, Jack and Noe Schitt divorced. Noe Schitt later married Ted Sherlock, and because her kids were living with them, she wanted to keep her previous name. She was then known as Noe Schitt Sherlock. Meanwhile, Dip Schitt married Lodza Schitt, and they produced a son with a rather nervous disposition named Chicken Schitt. Two of the other six children, Fulla Schitt and Giva Schitt, were inseparable throughout childhood and subsequently married the Happens brothers in a dual ceremony. The wedding announcement in the newspaper announced the Schitt-Happens nuptials. The Schitt-Happens children were Dawg, Byrd, and Horse. Bull Schitt, the prodigal son, left home to tour the world. He recently returned from Italy with his new Italian bride, Pisa Schitt. NOW when someone says, 'You don't know Jack Schitt,' you can correct them. Sincerely, Crock O. Schitt CEO Chicken Schitt eXpress Railroad

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for N/A Posted: 18 July 2009 is anyone else pissed about being screw out of 6 on 2 off?

Name: SAm the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 July 2009 RRJ, for once, I totally agree with everything you said. Just think the Union should have pushed back harder at the time, and structured the whole thing a whole lot better than they did. They gave up way too much and gave the carriers way too much mojo in the process.

Name: jdoo E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 18 July 2009 I have been with the company just over three yrears been layed off since Christmas last year. Dont understand why some young conductors are fussing about the pay rates. In my area no one at 90 percent is even working. I personaly dont mind working my way to 100 percent. 80 percent pay out here is alot better than 100 percent pay at mcdonalds!!!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 July 2009 Sam I might of started out at 100% but not as a conductor. I was the lowest man on the train the brakemen. You worked your way up in seniority to get that caboose flagmen job then conductor. When I was on the Hocking Division out of Walbridge it took three years before you would come up for promotion. My counter-point to anyone complaining about progresive pay rates is they knew exactly what they were in for when they hired out. How can anyone complain about it now? That's crying over spilled milk. They are not part of my generation of railroader. When I hired out oldheads had agreements we weren't entitled to like the old PM agreements out of Walbridge. These guys made a schidt load of money. What I never had never bothered me. Oldheads have gone through a lot of changes over the past 25 years we lost overmiles when it went from 100 mile basic day to 130, ITD/FTD which was changed to trip rates to pacify those not covered under it ect...Those under progressive pay rates have lost nothing in fact they increase every year by 5%. I don't like the system it was a UTU agreement that radically changed the railroad by sacrificing a job the brakemen.

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 July 2009 Actually, my fellow whitey pickaninnies, I think Conductor NA is pulling your slave chains. In a rather neurotic way, he (or she?) is making an interesting, although slightly bizarre, arguement. When I hired out pay for new hires was at parity - everyone made 100% of pay grade. No one made 80% of pay. EVERYONE made 100%. Everyone got the same pay increases. The old heads at that time DID gripe about wage parity - they wanted to be at a higher pay scale than new hires, and who could blame them? They had the experience and knowledge - we didn't. So, the Carriers - in their usual and customary unethically cunning ways - decide to capitalize on perceived friction in the ranks, and LOWERED the pay grade for new hires, whereas the Union should have bargained for an INCREASE in pay for workers with more experience and seniority. Instead they took the low road, and now we have neurotic trainmen working amoung us. Unions were no better. In allowing the 20% pay differiental for new hires, they drove a wedge between themselves and new hire participation in the Union. When the new pay grades went into effect I can distinctly remember a raging discussion about blow back. So, no suprise someone like Conductor NA is lurking out there ready to pounce like a wounded lion. Looks like Masta succeeded into brainwashing Conductor N/a into believing he (or she) is one of the four whitey horsemen of the apocalypse hell bent on destroying railroad pensions as a personal vindication for wrongs commited against virgin newbies. Hey, its the railroad - largest outdoor insane asylum in the world. What's not to like?

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 July 2009 Hey Z: Just for the sake of the argument...what if CSX could and did cut your pension payments...what do you suppose would happen to the new hires pension payments in 30 or 40 years, assuming of course they last that long? Excuse me while I refresh my toddy...

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 July 2009 You haven't goy a clue. Nobody voted to reduce your pay.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 17 July 2009 you old heads screw us when you voted to decrease our pay this one for a new clerk job Pay Rate Entry Rate $148.29/day* Full Rate $174.46/day* *varies by location/assignment you screw us so we take your pension to make the difference. we get gipped you get gipped fair is fair buttholes

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 17 July 2009 no time to write here i have yard shift now unlike you free loaders whine about layoff go get a job on a garbage truck dumbo an next time i see my lc it will be for 20% wage increase from old heads pension plans see what good the goose is good for a gander lots of bald head fat whiners boohoo unfair crybabies need ther mommies yo9u dont scare me bite me dogmeat old heads jump off a bridge do us new guys a favor. my trainmaster loves me i do the work of 10 old farts so stuff it have a heart atatack an die i will piss on your grave an if you dont like it get out now ha ha i gonna have your job ape man so kiss my ass an z llj shine my knob if you can still see old guys or just gum it an choke haha old stupid toothless fat boys go take meds and shut up befor your hoe slaps the crap out you

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 July 2009 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 14 July 2009 RRJ is an old head and is telling new hires they spent too much on your new truck or suv so need i say more? 30 years out of touch and he did not have to work at 80% of wage but oh that is different but i call it the old eating the young you are so out of touch with what new hires have to go through so i cant wait till the company offers new hires a big fat pay increase to full pay in exchange for slashing pension payouts to retirees they got my vote besides retirees can live on 20% less right? just dont buy medicine you dont need anyway cut down on the food and beer and loose some weight so many old head are fatter than cows and sell the vehicle you dont need to drive you cant see anyway and take the bus and move into a trailer park where you seem to like better anyway and have yourself a great golden years. with my extra 20% i will buy your car at auction and your house at the forclosure sale cause you overspent xtravengently irresponsble ha ha not so funny is it.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Good Lord help us from the above post. Life Guard at the gene pool was on break again. Who in heck is recruiting to get this piece of shit.....Guess you folks will get to meet him/she/ on your next extra board trip. Dam that would even make me an asshole. fuc--r would ride outside, and never blink an eye. Every time he rested his Eyes I would stop.....They be gone real quick not 10 years later when they have a bunch of bud's. Instant!!!

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 July 2009 You don't have a clue. The future old head talking. Maybe your next LC. Woe to the labor movement in this country with guys like this.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 16 July 2009 you out of work tool an die an your on here bitching. sounds like a bitch complaining to me. go get a job an stop bitching i still work here an you aint. MacDonald's is hirin or you too proud mr tool an die journeyman there is plenty of jobs out there if you want one

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 July 2009 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 16 July 2009 see what i mean take some from the pension fund add to wages and old farts scream dirty. you can always quit. ha ha. ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; No one screamed dirty, we were shaking our head, trying to understand were you got that big brain of yours. Your statement really isn't worth a reply. You haven't a clue. Looks like one slipped through he cracks when you were hired.

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 July 2009 You don't have a clue. I think I would quit embarrassing myself if I were you, with your lack of understanding.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 16 July 2009 see what i mean take some from the pension fund add to wages and old farts scream dirty. you can always quit. ha ha.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 July 2009 Pop's I shouldn't of even answered such a nincompoop as Cond N/A. His idiotic childish responses weren't worth trying to educate. The poor poor me syndrome of feeling he's entitled to having everything now is just immature bantering. The days of respecting oldheads and wanting to learn from them is still around there are a lot of good people who have hired out over the past 1-3 years during the hiring blitz. The difficult part is we have some who need to be carried on others backs for they'll always be lost an in todays railroad that's not possible. Engineers had always trained the new hire trainmen (head brakeman) when we had full crews. That's impossible today when it's the conductor sitting across from us it makes our job difficult. A lot of times we're working industries that they might of been in once or twice during training. CSX refuses pilots when their requested. When a conductor tells me he hasn't been in an industry for quite a while and never actually worked it by themselves that's an uncomfortable feeling. When they state they "think" they can do it that sends up red flags. There is no guessing out here either you know it or you don't. sonny

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 30+ years Posted: 15 July 2009 so young...so dumb...

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 July 2009 You haven't a clue.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 15 July 2009 I Vote for 20% pension benefit payment cuts and 20% increase in new hire wages and do it now so save your jobs and your family and I hope csx reading this you have my vote for wage increase and pension cuts we need money now not 30 years from now.

Name: htlong E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 July 2009 wow !!!!!! after reading that spoiled rotten little noname conductors rant about how tuff it is only making 80% I almost wish I could come back just to work with him.......ALMOST I can promise he would be spending his 80% on new boots monthly ! Oh crap I saw one sparking abot 80 cars back....he would be to tired to bitch,and I wouldnt allow him to sleep either...all in all he would be wishing he kept his job at McDonalds would you like fries??? I'll see yall next week when I log on to csx sux again!! p.s.could this guy be my ole buddy plug doors son???? give em hell sonny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 July 2009 Ill bet my next pay day I'll never pound slag. Your statement is stupid to start with. Those jobs would have been trainmen jobs as you were promoted to engineer. Now your stuck pounding slag for your next 40 years.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for N/A Posted: 15 July 2009 Even a lowly brakeman can qualify to operate a remote so wont be long before yard jockeys will be pounding slag wise guy. http://www.ble.org/pr/news/headline.asp?id=7573

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 July 2009 Chicken pecker, is that you? Didn't you succumb to Big Fatty, mark off for Union business, and float away to la-la land?

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 July 2009 Why, after 35 years the railroad Dick has been welded permanently to my anus so every time I sit down I get to remember what a thrill it is to have worked here. [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ I think you meant 35 months, at best. Now go pound that slag brakey.

Name: SAm the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 July 2009 AS an old head I agree with the majority. That kid needs to experience what us old heads have had to deal with. Divorce, divorce and more divorce, alcoholism, violence, psychosis, bankruptcy, furloughs in perpetuity, missing toes and fingers, sleepless nights, bump-a-rama, trainmasters from hell, and a whole lot more. The fun is just beginning for you laddy. Why, after 35 years the railroad Dick has been welded permanently to my anus so every time I sit down I get to remember what a thrill it is to have worked here. I earned that Dick and I intend on keeping it by God. You'll grow to like it too, sonny boy. It'll put hair on your chest and a bowl beans on the table. What more to life is there? Flat screen TV, Monday Night Football and a nightly six pack of Bud. Its heaven. So quit thinking about Ipods, hot rods n' bods. That stuff will rot your brain. Go getch you a degree boy, Corporate Dick jobs are much better than Union Dick jobs and you dont have to swallow every time you give old heads. I had nothing to do with the 80% screw job you got, but the Union sure did - I know cause we all voted for it, you dill weed. Lastly, the company can have 20% of my pension - I'll never live to see a penny of it anyway (brain cancer). Buck up or get out. Its the railroad way, so get use to it boy. We did and we love it. Now get away from me, I am going to be retiring soon anyway, which reminds me of a poem my old head mentor told me about married life on the railroad - He grabbed me by my slender throat and held me strong and tight I could not call or scream then he dragged me to his dark and dingy room where he tore away my flimsy wraps and stared at my naked form He wanted what was mine a virgin o' so fine I was scared and cold and damp while he was hot and warm he forced his feverish lips to mine I could not struggle anymore then he drained me of myself I could not make him stop. He made me what I am today, and that is how you find me here, laying lifeless on the roadside, an empty naked bottle once full of tasty beer.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 July 2009 Hey Z: Yes you're right, Hired in '01...fired in '06. Worked in Gentilly (New Orleans); Sibert (Mobile); Golding(Pensacola), PA, PD, M&M, NO&M. Frankly, I was never paid what I thought I was worth...I always made enough to pay my bills though. These New Hires have no idea what bills are... RRJ is right, new F150's, Z71's, I Phones and houses more than they can afford, credit cards with unjustifiable credit limits... 20 year old kids that will not, or don't want a life... The lure of big money on the RR is like a whore, if you're willing to pay, you can play...a hard Dick has no conscience...we have all been there...let's see how much money I can actually earn... The result is ruined relationships...broken families...and death. I worked with a diverse group, all of whom I considered friends...with the exception of one or two, I don't talk to anyone. Such is life...So when they start moanin', I start gronin'...If they don't like the hand they were dealt...fold and get a life. It was their choice to skip a higher education and go to work for the RR. What's ironic about all this is...in a blink of an eye, they'll be our age...and wish they had put that extra $150 into their IRA instead of that new F150. Save your breath...we're talking to brick walls!

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 July 2009 My neighbor sells flowers at a freeway exit and makes more than most new hires. .................................................................... Are there any more freeway exits in your town? Maybe you can change your occupation to increase your standard of living. NoMo, I believe you were classified as a new hire with a family. Am I correct? Now I don't agree with the 80 percent pay for new hires, but I had no control over that situation nor did RRJ. Someone would need to talk to the good old UTU about that, of which I have never been a member. One lesson I learned in life is, it's not what you make, but how you manage it. If I don't like what I make, I won't bitch about it, I will change it.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 July 2009 Hey dipschidt. You shouldn't talk about pensions if you make it on the railroad which is questionable that's your pension your talking foolishly about slashing which no person, union, or railroad can do single handedly seeing it's run by the federal goverment. Secondly I never voted for any progressive style pay rates for new hires that was a UTU deal in 1994. I've been a member of the BLE since 1980. You are a blind fool. Definitely a product of the "Y" generation. "Y" do all the oldheads has the good jobs? "Y" "Y" "Y"?????? Boo Hoo sniff sniff!!!! Cry baby.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 July 2009 You're a fool. Your envy of oldheads is clouding your thought process. Do you really think we got hired and walked into a cushy job? It takes years to establish yourself in any occupation. A lot of us had to relocate in our early years leave family and fiends to work for the railroad. A lot of us lost homes, cars, got so far behind in debt it took a lot of time to get out of it because of years of being furloughed. If we're at that point in life we finally see light at the end of the tunnel then we earned every bit of it. You know nothing. I see people bitching and complaining over being bounced around. With a little motivation they could hold a high paying ID run 184 miles away because 51% of those jobs belong to the consolidated roster they are on. Which means if a 30 year person on trainmen consolidated Dist #2 is holding a trainmen consolidated Dist #1 job that newbie can bump him. If a person decides to not utilize working away from home then it's their own fault. If they stayed up there permanently by moving when it's time for engine service then engineers fall under the same consolidated roster no need to move back to their original home terminal. We had around 30-40 temporary transfers last year working in my area some for a year or more. They were offered permanent jobs a small percentage stayed most went back only to be furloughed. That's an individual choice. Quit your bullschidt blaming those of us who have struggled for years to get to where we are at it shows your ignorance.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 14 July 2009 RRJ is an old head and is telling new hires they spent too much on your new truck or suv so need i say more? 30 years out of touch and he did not have to work at 80% of wage but oh that is different but i call it the old eating the young you are so out of touch with what new hires have to go through so i cant wait till the company offers new hires a big fat pay increase to full pay in exchange for slashing pension payouts to retirees they got my vote besides retirees can live on 20% less right? just dont buy medicine you dont need anyway cut down on the food and beer and loose some weight so many old head are fatter than cows and sell the vehicle you dont need to drive you cant see anyway and take the bus and move into a trailer park where you seem to like better anyway and have yourself a great golden years. with my extra 20% i will buy your car at auction and your house at the forclosure sale cause you overspent xtravengently irresponsble ha ha not so funny is it.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 13 July 2009 Some newbies might live at home with the folks. If the last poster thinks their not making good wages then explain the first thing they do is purchase new vehicles we're talking new Ford F150's, new SUV's ect...not all you definitely can tell the ones who have a family to support. The railroads has always been determined on how aggressive a person is in their work ethics. Working a regular yard remote job 5 days a week at 80% might not pay much. Working the yard or road extra board pays pretty good they just have to stay marked up. Nothings changed since I hired out in the '70s other than x-boards have a gaurentee. You made money while you could next half on the board you might not of made anything. It was feast or famine. I see those with 1-3 years on the railroad in my area doing good even at the progressive pay rates. You don't think in the early years we had to have roommates to share expensises? If we wanted to have a life while we were young we certianly did. Oldheads don't understand. What a crock of bullschidt!!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 13 July 2009 earlier post NoMo wrote "now even at the entry rate, the RR's pay a livable wage, maybe not what it should be but still better than most. Regardless of their wage most every one else seems to survive, some on a lot less money and hours" you do not know what you are talking about just ask a new hire they do not make enough to pay for monthly bills unless they live at home with mom and i do not know of any. . new hires make 80% of normal wages then subtract taxes pension payments union dues medical deductions pay for commuting gas and a car eat lunch then you dont make shit let alone a "livable wage" and i still see conductors living in a dump trailer, sleep with cockroaches and rent out the living room couch just so they can make lot rent. My neighbor sells flowers at a freeway exit and makes more than most new hires. nobody i know works a "normal" 40 hour week and i know old guys who have to work a second 8 hour job just to make ends meet and put food on the table and it is not because of other "issues" it is just to care for their families other than put them in a sewer hole. Livable wage? Maybe if you are a Chinese illegal use to working for coolie wages so maybe some of you old heads make a so called livable wage which only goes to show you how out of touch the old guys are with the new hires when it comes to comment like that. FRA shortened work hours, so now they need to INCREASE the wages, NOT DECREASE the wages. of course the old heads dont want to rock the boat so the union will let the carrier screw us again and the new hires will take it in the ass again. When the carriers dump the pension plan for present and past old heads and cut pension payouts by 50%, buck up an deal with it or go get a job as a WalMart greeter cause they pay a livable wage too Good luck how is that for being a corporate schmuck. 50% penions benefit cut retroactive to 2007 they will be billing you for the overpayment so buck up and deal with it or quit its a free world you can do what you want just dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Name: David E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 July 2009 Anyone heard anything about CN buying the Nashville division by September or October? Lets pray shall we.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 July 2009 CSX is a joke! I would be ashamed to be an trainmaster! You have no ethics or morals! How do you look at yourself in the mirror? How do you sleep at night? Remember this what comes around goes around!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 July 2009 In regard to the new HOS law taking effect on the 16Th... The average work week for most is 40+/- hours, consisting of five 8 hour days or 168 hours a month and 2080 hours a year. Now the FRA wants to limit you to 276 hours a month or, based on a 30 day month, 3312 hours a year. Whereas before you could only work 12 hours a day or, based on a 30 day month, 4320 hours a year. Now even at the entry rate, the RR's pay a livable wage, maybe not what it should be but still better than most. Regardless of their wage most every one else seems to survive, some on a lot less money and hours. I ran the road long enough to understand the fatigue issue, because of the hours it's impossible to be bright eyed and bushy tailed all the time...that's why a 2 man crew is important, or simply mark off. There are 2 classes of service, road and yard...money or normalcy, depending on your seniority and supply point you might be able to work either, if you can't, lump it or leave it. I digress though...the HOS law is the non issue, every one on the RR should be able to survive quite nicely on a 168 hour month and live well with a moderate amount of O/T of 15-20 hours a month...if you can't there are other issues. Fatigue, call times, meal allowances and away from home accommodations are contract issues as is the Carriers' complaint of June 29Th and have nothing to do with the HOS law. The L&N agreement I worked under has a mileage component, as I'm sure many of the other agreements do. I don't recall exactly what it was, maybe 2100 miles a month. One round trip to New Orleans was 272 miles or about 8 trips a month or 16 days a month. I have never seen the union, carrier or employee enforce it. If the union did, they would have twice the membership, if the carrier did, they'd have twice the employees and if the employee did, they wouldn't be fatigued and only have half the money. I guess that's another one you can mark up to the guaranteed extra boards! Can you see a common thread here...seems to me there should be plenty of talking points come section 6 time including guaranteed extra boards!

Name: Tank E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 11 July 2009 I have never been a brakeman or engineer, but seems to me Lloyd speaks the truth from his experience and he has a right to be mad as hell. The hours put in by the freight crews are ungodly and Sam got it right see what part of slavery is illegal do the CSX bosses do not understand because this shit did not just happen overnight and its not like the Unions can say they was suprised or too complicated or whatever to make right. Lloyd might be one guy but you know his voice is the same voices of thousands of union guys who work these back breakin human killer hours and i will tell you blunt CSX go ahead and fuck us with your kangaroo courts and we will shut these god damn railroads down.

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 July 2009 They could have done a lot of things different as far as our fatigue goes. I don't know how many times I've been between 1 and 3 times out and I couldn't get to sleep because I was afraid I might miss the call from being so damn tired. You know the sleep you get in where the phone call you get from CSX is actually a phone call you get in the dream you are having? Working long hours isn't bad until you do it 4 or 5 trips in a row and can't sleep one night in one of those 5 star stays we always get away from home terminal. It just amazes me with as much profit as these idiots rake in they have the nerve to try and cut our wages. I don't think working 3 hours a day should pay a man over 200 dollars either but I also don't think the guy who works 9 or 10 should get shit on because of that. Seems like they are trying to find excuses to short us any way they can and I'm fucking tired of it. When Michael Ward decides he'll only work for 100,000 a year Ill take a god damn pay cut.

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 July 2009 Well Tank, I can't leave this board - you would have no other way to obtain well reasoned intelligent versatile opinion versus opinion from zoned out fatties. The Carriers should not win their wage case. Not in a million years. However, they are in Ft. Worth, backyard Corporate home of the BNSF, so anything is possible - particularly when it comes to screwing the Unions. Forgive me for being critical, but if our Union lawyers had studied their Civil Procedure, they would have moved jurisdiction to D.C., and counter claimed with a truck load of issues - including the issue of pay for 24/7 on call time, which is inextricably intertwined with wages, hours, and safety. I realize that approach is a little more complex than z's thinly cut sausage approach, but that's how you set the carriers back on their heels and start winning issues and grievances. You dont play their game. You force them to play yours. As it is, the Carriers have the game down pat: Hit the ball, drag the Unions. Hit the ball, drag the unions. Well my friend, Masta is calling now......gotta go now and stick my nose in some Union business where some say it does not belong.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 July 2009 http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=47954

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 July 2009 Lloyd, all the math has been done along time ago. Why the 276 was put in is beyond me. With mandatory 10 undisturbed rest and 48 off after 6 or 72 after 7 it is virtually impossible to cap out the 276. The law was badly written from the start. Although rest needed to be addressed, we again have people enacting laws that don't have a clue because they have never worked the shifts we have. The input from the Unions with their bull shit survey is inaccurate also. The UTU insisted on the 276 hour cap. If they had even taken time to do the numbers they should have seen 276 hours can hardly ever be met with the other stipulations of the law. The ones in the unions giving input have been use to jocking behind a desk for years, 8/5 Monday through Friday. They have forgotten how it feels to sit 1st out on a extra board 36 hours, go to bed after being up 18 hours only to have your phone ring ten minutes after laying your head down. The law was written out of a rash of accidents and the Feds. felt a need to get a bill through in a hurry. It should have been thought out to insure proper rest, instead of written merely to get a law on the books. The Unions put in their unknowing 2 cents into the bill and now we end up screwed again. Circadian Rhythm or the body clock, documented sleep information and rest cycles were not used in passing the law. The only thing that was used is what a politician thought we needed. How about just saying if I'm unrested I can lay off fatigue, with no questions asked by the company. How about if (and I don't ) work a extra board and I'm 1st out for 18 hours after my rest is up from a previous shift, I rotate to the bottom of the board because I probably am not rested. How about the railroads learn how to give a proper line up and 12 hours notice of call. Working nights doesn't kill us, not knowing when to be rested does. As far as I'm concerned nothing needed to be changed except, give me the right to lay off fatigue 2 or 3 times a month. Now the carriers want to cut our pay, ask the court to rule it as a minor dispute and we are screwed by them, the feds. and the unions. There was a definite need for a bill to give us rest but like so many times before, we take it in the ass, because someone that didn't have a clue wrote it. By being required to take rest and 48 off after 6 days, who didn't know the RR's weren't going to cut our pay, except Sam. He wants to push it another step, before this fuck up is fixed. RRJ's quote by E.Dole is how so many people look at it. They don't have any comprehension of our job. Well I've got to go. I have a load of dirt to dump.

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 July 2009 So let me get this straight Z so I don't have a misunderstanding of what I just read. The carriers want to decrease our wages because we can "only" work 276 hours a month? Has anyone actually divided 276 by an average 30 day work month to see the answer? Well, in case you haven't I'll be the first to point out that equals to 9.2 hours a day if you worked EVERY day of that month. Now, lets put into perspective that most get at least one day off a week so lets do the math again at 276 divided by 26. That comes out to be 10.6 hours a day 26 days out of the month with one day off a week. Hmmmmm...who else works those kind of hours besides guys like us, the military, or the police or fireman? I seriously doubt anyone unless they have a hard on for their job. So because we might only be working an average 10 hour day 6 days a week the carriers want to get greedy and cry like the little bitches they are. The FRA tries to step in and help out the worker fatigue and we are going to get fucked in the process if our unions don't man up? Should have known we wouldn't come out ahead on this issue either unless our unions finally grow a fucking pair.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 July 2009 Z The easy way out for some on here is to say we're antiquated. We are happy with the way things have been. They haven't been through the past 27 years to see the AAR and goverment cut our pay and benefits. How much we've lost like pushing the basic day from 100 miles to 130 miles, ITD/FTD, paying a portion of health coverage when back in the '90s we tryed to protect it with lower pay raises, it took us years to get PL days compared to the UTU because we went on strike in 1982 ect...a lot of times the BLE pushed it we ended up in a PEB and the consequences weren't favorable. Let's take Elizabeth Dole Sec of Labor under Raygun who stated "we were just glorified dump truck drivers". The odds were stacked against us. In a perfect union scenario I'd love to see a good old fashion strike. It takes years under the RLA to get to that point that has always been the biggest obstacle. At one time work rules were cast in stone unchangable till the next round of negotiations not so today there changed at the carriers whim. A lot of oldheads beyond what some think on here have thrown in the towel. We aren't happy we just know it'll take a miracle to place the unions back to the level they once had to protect their members and future generations.

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 July 2009 It was only a matter of time before the carriers asked for wages regarding the new FRA rest rules. U.S. CLASS IS ASK FEDERAL COURT TO REQUIRE UTU, BLET ARBITRATE DISPUTES John D. Boyd / Jul 2, 2009 7:30PM GMT The Journal of Commerce Online - News Story An impending cap on hours worked by train crews has major U.S. railroads wanting to alter pay agreements to reflect the curbs, and they have asked a federal court to quickly step in. It boils down to carriers trying to curb pay when new rules mean workers might not be available as often, while unions want to protect current pay levels even if the law constricts their actual working time. The changes in the work-hour rules were meant to help safety-threatening fatigue in train crews who often put in long hours after they report to work, counting time spent waiting or in transit to their trains, train operation time and then sometimes additional “limbo time” waiting for replacement crews after they reach their federal operating limits and the trip back to their cars so they could go home. The new rules, which take effect July 16, would cap rail worker time in several ways – at 276 hours per calendar month, 12 hours a day and no more than six or seven consecutive days depending on the intervening time off. The new law also eliminates limbo time, instead counting a worker on duty between the time he or she clocks in at the assembly point and returns back there at the end of a shift. Those workers are paid under complex contract terms that factor in seniority, whether this is a regularly assigned job or labor pulls for as-needed train runs or to fill vacancies. But since the hours law changes mean carriers could not keep workers on duty as long or slot them for assignments with the same availability as in the past, railroads and union officials have been negotiating since the Rail Safety Improvement Act of 2008 was passed last fall over how that affects existing contracts for how to pay workers. All five Class I freight carriers filed a complaint June 29 in Fort Worth, Texas, against the United Transportation Union that represents train conductors and some other workers, and against the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers. The railroads said they intend to implement the array of hours-of-service changes by July 16, as required under the RSIA. But they say unions have not negotiated contract changes in pay the carriers want to make, and “have refused to agree to arbitration” of those issues. “The carriers contend they are under no obligation, under the (labor contract) agreements, to increase pay to ensure that such employees continue to receive the same total compensation despite working less than prior to the implementation of the RSIA changes,” the railroads said in their court filing. They asked the court to find that the unions must negotiate the hours-related disputes, and send any of them that are unresolved on July 16 to arbitration. Unions have not yet filed a response, but they are fighting back. UTU International President Malcolm Futhey, in a statement on the UTU Web site criticized the suit as “the carriers' attempt to put the entire burden of the new hours-of-service limitations on the backs and pocketbooks of their employees." While this dispute may end soon, it could raise tensions around the bargaining table when railroads and unions begin negotiating their next multi-year contracts later this year.

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 30+ years Posted: 10 July 2009 The hours of service act should read as follows: When called on duty after 6:00 AM until 10:00 AM - 10 - Hours on duty is the maximum that can be worked. When called on duty after 10:00 AM until 4:00 PM - 8 - Hours on duty is the maximum that can be worked. When called on duty after 4:00 PM until 6:00 AM - 6 - Hours on duty is the maximum that can be worked. Ten hours off minimum after a tour of duty regardless of how long on duty. How the contract should read When called on duty between the hours of 6:00 AM to 10:00 AM Engineers will be paid at the rate of $50.00 per hour When called on duty between the hours 10:00 AM and 4:00 PM Engineer’s time on duty after 6:00 PM will be paid at time and a half When called on duty after 4:00 PM Engineers will be paid double time. Any engineer that works for a railroad that works a 24/7 clock can lay off account fatigue at any time; because safety is the first order of business. ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Your not the first one that wants to change the shitty hours. RRJ knows where the above came from. Most of us would like to see things change, but it isn't easily done as you say. The above is a thought from another engineer on how things should work. There are many different ways as far as I'm concerned. Get the carriers to agree. Like I said they are going to try and cut your pay. Check out my next post.

Name: Tank E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 July 2009 Well Sam the Slave looks like you aint gettin no help on this board. You have some good suggestions like getting paid for human killer on call hours like the prior post said their are windows and 8 hour payouts that would work but the old heads never want to change anything cause anthing that is a change in the way they done things for the last 100 years they think is gonna rock their boat and they own the union so nothing ever changes except the company screws us to death with every new contract and which is why old guys like z and rrj blast away at anything in the way of improvements suggested by anyone except their own, which are not really changes but stupid reasons why they aint going to change anything ever. all they do is report on how we are all getting nailed but they never suggest anyting positive and give any solutions. its always impossible, or the way it is, or there is no hope, or they dont care cause they retire in a year or two anyway. what a crock of cop out crap. not many young guys post on this site and neither do they attend union meetings and now you know why - the old heads crap all over them and their ideas they just want to retire and they dont care about anyting else. pretty sad if you ask me. spend you time somewhere else dude you are wasting ability on here.

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 July 2009 Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 July 2009 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 July 2009 Simple cure for the 24/7 on call human killer. 3 Seniority call blocks per day. 8 hour window call or pay. Employee must be rested before the call window, and is realeased and paid if not called. Employee bid's on window 1 2 or 3 and is assigned. NO EXTRA BOARD. Road return trip's would be first in first out. Then back to the assigned window. ******************************************************************* See guys, changing the 24/7 on call rule so that we get PAID would be pretty simple. Now, why didn't our illustrious union think of that? Hmmmmm. ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Yep, about as simple as the theory of relativity. I painted you just a little picture a few post down. You said see guys changing the rule would be pretty simple. How could you come to that conclusion? The men and union thought of it years ago. Are you going to wave your hand and it's done. Look for a pay cut if you look for anything. Guess what, the carriers are asking for a minor dispute ruling in the HOS ruling. No strike if they get it.

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 July 2009 Name: SAm the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 July 2009 With a new union the right to strike and elimination of free 24/7 on call hours would be acheived. Out with the old, in with the new. CSX could probably be coaxed into early buy outs, so the old heads who want out can get out. Sounds good to me. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Yea, yea and I'm a astronaut and will become a brain surgeon after my buy out. The buy out days are long gone. They just fire you.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 July 2009 New union old union it doesn't matter. You still wouldn't have the right to strike. We fall under the Railway Labor Act. Get that through your head. Maybe if you educated yourself instead of continuiosly talking nonsense you wouldn't appear so ignorant. Your like an obnoxious parrot repeating the same old line.