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Webmaster's note:

Since I go through the server logs regularly, I just thought I'd take this opportunity to point out that all of the comments in defense of the company seem to come from Jacksonville, while complaints come from everywhere that the company does business.

You do the math.



Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 September 2010

To RRJ,
You are correct about the George Carlin and double meaning (PUN'S)
 I was never very good at using words with double meanings. I nominate
you as the (Dreamer) the expert of saying one thing and meaning
something else.
My efforts to discuss the Police, Teachers, and others working part
time for the RR with you has reached the same dead end.

Hopefully some old head on the site has a comment or two. Heck they may
agree with you that the C&0,WM and all of those roads had folks that
worked as seasonal employees in T/E and on call as you profess!

How would it be if I did it for you.
Hey NOMO, Fitsgerald, anyone out there. Do you know of any T/E that
works full time as a Police Officer, Teacher, fireman, or any other
full time vocation and drops in for the summer. Have you ever known
such a person, or heard of such person? I mean just ONE?

Your's

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 September 2010

pronounced in-com-pee-shence. teeheehee

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 September 2010

Huh!!! I guess the federal goverment will hire anyone. We definitely see
a lot of incompetience.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 September 2010

man, I am so glad to be out of this hell hole!!!  Everyone is looking
out for number one!!!  I was there for 4 years and read between the
lines!!!!  I saw my furlough coming but needed the benefits!!!  So I
beat them to the punch and went out disability (with benefits) and
received a job JUST before the benefits went out.  The sad part, the
union official was more pissed at me than the damn company officials!! 
I wonder why that is??  Could it be because I gave (and most on here
still do) over $100.00 a month to a bunch of low life fags who were in
the companies left hand pocket who only know how to say "they can do
that, they can do that, they can do that. But hey, thanks for your
charity to the waterhead (aka, UTU & BLE) union.  We appreciate you
WAISTING your money!!"  The funny part is just that, I CAN LAUGH IN
YOUR
FACES!!!!!LLLLLLLLLMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 But hey, I love the UTU news letters I still get.  Keep them coming,
they make wonderful fire starters for winter!!!!!LMAO  The federal
gov't is the way to go people!!!

Name: J H
E-mail: Fitzgerald GA
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 September 2010

in one or two post lately it was said that buy your wife a riding
lawnmower. well guess what I AM NOW RETIRED THREE YEARS AGO BUT BACK
YEARS AGO WHEN we were working 16hrs a day and deadhead didnot count on
your hrs and serivce I WAS GONE ALL THE TIME AND MY WIFE DID KEEP THE
GRASS CUT. WELL ON HER BIRTHDAY i ask her what she wanted and beleive
me she said just get me a riding lawnmower for I AM TIRED OF THIS OLD
PUSH MOWER. by the way she got her birthday gift. I JUST THROUGHT THIS
WAS WORTH SHARING. the men working today has it a lot better but they
also have to put upwith a lot of bull shit that I DIDNOT.nothing is
going to get better untill the engineers and the conductors join up
together and become one union and this may be a while yet for you have
too many union officers getting big pay checks and real big expence
accounts for doing very little except working against each other. you
are really just one group now for the engineers is from the conductors
roster.Csx likes it this way for they can use one against the other so
join together. I THINK THE SAFETY PROGRAM IS A GOOD THING BUT YOU ALL
SHOULD GET OUT UNTILL THE R.R. BEGIN TO SEE EVERYONE IS OUT TO WORK NOT
GET HURT. you will likely not ever see a strike where as I saw about
five in my career.THIS IS JUST ONE WAY YOU CAN FIGHT BACK GET THESE FEW
ASS KISSERS WHO IS ON THE CSX PAYROLL AND THIS INCLUDES YOUR LOCAL
CHAIRMAN OFF CSX PAYROLL FOR DOING NOTHING AND GETTING TIME OFF.IN my
last few years woRking I GOT TO HATING THE R.R. AND THE UTU FOR LETTING
EVERYONE DOWN.oh by the way enjoy the r.r. safety cookout eat that
burger for tomorrow that same trainmaster will be out hid to run you
off not to help you show this rr that they cannot buy you with a
cookout get together everyone stay away let the ass kissers get paid
for nothing which that is what they do anyway.YOU MUST PAY ATTENTION TO
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE UNION AND THE RR.attend your union meetings in
the mean time see for yourself what is going on for you have just a
certain few running everything that just affects them.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 September 2010

Laura ( Bleakley ) Touchstone used to work the tact desk where she was
clueless as they come, so they promoted downtown to work another job
where she was clueless.  Her husband used to be DTO, he did not know a
flat car from a gondola, so they promoted him.  Sister Jean Bleakley
was a dispr where she was fired once for drugs, got back to work and
caught again, she is gone.  Brother Arthur is a yes man for Tom
Wolfe...

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 September 2010

Goob

You were L&N different railroad different policies compared to the C&O.
So, how do you know what went on? I haven't a clue about the L&N. I
know you're just being cantankerous as usual. You don't know
everything. I lived it, I seen it, and it affected me during winter
slow downs. Even Chessie System which was comprised of several
railroads the biggest C&O, B&O, and WM treated each one as a separate
railroad with agreements. I couldn't tell you about any of the others
only the C&O. The George Carlin comment flew over your head maybe you
don't know who he was but he was a master of dissecting words finding
other uses and meanings creating puns. Which you sir are not good at
apparently.

Name: Chris Leabetter
E-mail: cleabetter@gmail.com
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 August 2010

"IF YOU ARE NOT DESPERATE FOR A JOB AND HAVE EDUCATION, DO YOURSELF A
FAVOR AND TRY TO GET A JOB ELSEWHERE. FEDERAL EMPLOYMENT IS THE WAY TO
GO. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I SHOULD HAVE QUIT CSX MY SECOND DAY ON
THE JOB, BUT I STUCK IT OUT FOR TEN WEEKS UNTIL I COULDN'T TAKE THEIR
BULLSHIT ANYMORE. UNSAFE, UNFAIR, RATS AND SCABS............"

God Bless the mans heart who said this!!!!!!  I am so glad the railroad
is a distant memory!!!  I have been out for 3 years and working for the
Fed Gov't ever since.  Seeing my family more and getting treated well
by my management, I feel like a human again.  I felt like I did
something bad and was assigned to community service, except I received
pay for it while I was in the RR.

Name: big dog
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 August 2010

Yall are a bunch of crybabys boo hoo hoo.Its this simple if u dont like
your job then quit.I dont care if u have been there a year or 30 years
if u dont like it quit.Nobody wants to hear a bunch of well paid men
and women bitch and moan about every little thing that they dont
like.Dont let the door hit u in the ass u bunch of crybabies.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 August 2010

RRJ,
I may have been too many years ahead of you. There was a time in the
mid to late 70's early 80's when the manpower was put to rest. Many
clerks were assigned to a room, with no Reading, sleeping, radio, tv
for 8 hour shifts. Reserve boards were set up for Engineers, and they
never got called. They all took job's outside the RR and drew a check
from the RR every 2 weeks. Those with Seniority took these job's,
guess it was a union thing to pay them to stay away.

I must say most of them were not Farmers, Police officers, Or
teachers.
HA

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 August 2010

To, RRJ

For the 400th time I worked for the L&N.
Now to the PT subject. If you worked for the C&O during my time on the
RR (or yours). The Teacher could never work the summer without working
1 day a month on the RR. Same for the police officer. If they were
trainmen, which you say they were, they had to mark up and work. Now
there might have been a few old heads that could mark up to a Yard job,
work a shift and lay off. Son that takes whiskers to do. I have no idea
what the Carlin thing means. However I do know that you continue to
fill space with untrue statements. It may not be true today, however I
never saw anyone layoff on the line of road. I have seen them pulled
from service for a family emergency, and a deadhead sent to cover. 25
to 30 Trainmen doing this is close to the 30Gazillion Engineers that
you said were working for CSX.

RRJ you really had a nice post going until ya started the BS. I will
now call you the (Dreamer).

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 August 2010

Hey Trainmasterbater/Stupidvisor <1:

We know where she isn't and who she isn't doing...now that you asked!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 31 August 2010

Does anyone know where Laura Touchstone is working or who she is doing?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 August 2010

I don't know what railroad you worked for Goob, but on the C&O we had
what I called part-timers. Yes, they had seniority. Yes, they weren't
considered part time. They played the system the farmers only worked
full time in the late fall till early spring and the school teachers
worked during the summer school vacation and school breaks. When I
worked in Ohio there were 25-30 trainmen who fit in this group. The use
of the word "part-time" comes from CSX to justify their attendance
policies. Goob your no George Carlin so quit with the disecting of
words.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 August 2010

The following was posted on the UTU web site on 08/27: 

 
Profits rolling in on major railroads
 
Recovering from the worst business downturn in nearly 80 years, U.S.
Class I railroads earned an average rate of return on net investment of
9.60 percent in the 12 months ended June 30, compared with a year-ago
ROI of 9.47 percent, reports Railway Age magazine.

Separately, the chief rail analyst for the Wall Street firm of UBS told
investors Aug. 26 that "U.S. railroads have stealthily been working on
a fairly impressive streak ... beating the S&P 500 by an annual average
of 16 percent for the last six years in a row." 

UBS analyst Rick Paterson said, "Before 2004, the rails beat the
market some of the time, but since then they've beaten the market all
of the time [emphasis by Paterson]. Year-to-date 2010 is more of the
same, with the rails up 5 percent versus the market down 5 percent.
Looking forward we think the key takeaway ... is that we think there
are still several years [of] outperformance left to run."

Railway Age reports that BNSF earned a return on investment of 10.25
percent vs. 10.20 percent a year ago, closely followed by Union
Pacific, with a return of 10.02 percent for the year ended June 30,
compared with 9.15 percent in the prior 12-month period.

Norfolk Southern, reports Railway Age, earned a return on investment of
9.44 percent in the latest 12-month period versus 10.89 percent a year
ago; and CSX earned 8.54 percent versus 8.59 percent a year ago.

Meanwhile, the Journal of Commerce reports that "major U.S. railroads
set a new 2010 peak for intermodal shipments in the week ending Aug.
21, the second straight week of new highs in container and trailer
loadings."

Intermodal shipments originated by BNSF, CSX, Kansas City Southern, NS
and Union Pacific were up 22.4 percent from the same week last year,
reported the Journal of Commerce.

"And it was even up 2.6 percent from the 2008 week, meaning that
intermodal traffic is running so strong that it has made up the losses
since the worst parts of the recession," the Journal of Commerce
reports. "The latest volume was the strongest for any week since the
autumn peak period in 2008," said the Association of American
Railroads.
 
August 27, 2010 
  
I wonder if there's a correlation between ROI and line supervision?
Profits may be rolling...just rolling more for some!

Name: Love/Hate
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 August 2010

CSX wants to hold train crews accountable for everthing but mech dept,
signal, track  and most of all piss poor managers and train disp are
not held accountable for anything I show up for work with the intention
of safely getting the job done proffesionally and going home. We are no
longer encouraged to make responsible decisions based on years of
experience.  We are no longer trusted at all and the important
decisions are left to 20 something children with college degrees in
whatever. They have little to no people skills and no practicle
experience. I have seen so many stupid decisions made and we train
crews are blamed for their bad decisions.

How much more money is csx willing to lose? how many more customers are
going to leave?

Empower your Qualified and experienced employees and let the little
college boys and girls manage fast food joints where they can make
their responsible decisions without costing us BIG busines.

I love my job. untie my hands, tell the worthless children managers to
back away. Hold everyone accountable for their descisions and the lack
thereof and watch us turn this cluster**** of a company into something
special

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 August 2010

RRJ
27 Aug 2010
 The union has no obligation to CSX to provide manpower. The union is
there to provide?? something. just not sure what. The RR is the
employer and has the resources to run the business.

Now to the working 1 weekend a month when he hired out, that is also
bull shit. It was 1 day per month, and no one was part time. There is
no way a person could hold a second job, and work full time in the
summer or Fall and get away with it. I saw them try to go to school,
and they could never get the school in or the RR in,,,, Why because
they were young and could hold nothing!. So when RRJ says I saw them
work as part time. That just is not true. Many tried and failed may be
closer to the truth.

I must admit the rest of old retired RRJ comments on the 27 were kinda
good.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 August 2010

Hey RRJ:

He does have a point...in fact several. First, in my mind, the UTU
locals should be holding classes for the new hires explaining the CBA,
work rules, penalty claims and how to file them, the claims process,
attendance and discipline policies. This should be done at the Local
level by certified trainers.

The new hires need to be brought into the fold as soon as they hire on.
They can't be allowed to flounce around aimlessly like they have been.
The fraternal aspect of the union needs to be promoted...whether it be
through family picnics, bowling or softball leagues, beer night or a
combination of them. It's truly amazing that I knew hundreds of people
across four subs and never knew their wives or if they had children.
What's even more amazing is I talk to very few of them today unless I
just bump into them. A lot of them have retired or otherwise left CSX
so time is not an issue. 

Secondly, knowing the UTU's track record of corruption and their
seeming indifference to CSX's failure to honor the CBA; I'm wondering
if they don't have darker motives.

Martin says..."Each of today's UTU leaders has a moral obligation to
identify and mentor talented younger members, beginning with assisting
them in running for local office. Not all will be successful. But this
is the process by which we identify those who, in the future, will lead
general committees, state legislative boards and the UTU
International"...

Like the GCAs and international have done a good job! I could go on
but this is nothing more than a political process where each office you
hold has a reward. At the local level, they get safety days and mark off
union business several weekends a month. The higher the office the more
"perks". I'm afraid that today it's more about what's in it for me
so you will represent yourself first and everyone else last!

Finally, Martin says..."I'm not suggesting older leaders head for the
exits. I'm among the oldest, and I assure you I have no intention of
departing anytime soon. But depart I will at some date, and my duty --
and the duty of our other higher ranking UTU officers -- is to identify
and mentor qualified successors."...but he's not going anywhere
anytime soon!

There will never be change as long as guys like him are ensconced in
a cushy job. There needs to be term limits for all UTU positions. 
These guys get elected and not unlike politicians, they feel they're
entitled to hold the job for life and like politicians few get voted
out. 

Arty, lead by example and retire, put your money where your mouth is!

Name: Huck Fancock
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 August 2010

T&E workers in Georgia vote UTU 
Train and engine employees on Fulton County Railway outside Atlanta
have voted for UTU representation. The switching railroad, owned by
OmniTRAX, operates 55 miles of former CSX track in an industrial park
serving some 40 warehouses and light-manufacturing plants. 
UTU International President Mike Futhey thanked Richard Ross, the UTU’s
director of organizing, and organizer Mike Lewis for their leadership,
which resulted in 100 percent of ballots cast marked for the UTU. 

OmniTRAX owns 17 shortline and switching railroads in the U.S. and
Canada.
 
They just dont know how bad they fucked up with that vote

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 August 2010

NoMo

The man has a point that the next generation does need guidence. The
majority out here think because they pay dues it makes them entitled.
It's not their fault most are unfamiliar with unions. I was clueless
when I hired out seeing I didn't have a family member on the railroad
to teach me the ropes. It put me at a disadvantage. When I could attend
union meetings I was there to learn. Read the agreements to try and
familiarize myself with them and asked questions for a better
understanding. 

The new attendance policy for example it's gone to far. The unions are
limited in handling a grievence. They did get it straighten out for
those who can still become displaced which will change once bid systems
kick in. There aren't any displacements under a bid system. The unions
filed letters of protest the next course of action mediation. That's
all they can do. People are confused over the differences between
contractual agreements and company policies. There are no agreements
for uncompensated time off other then rest days. Under this new policy
the unions should strive for paid sick leave. Someone called me up the
other day to see how I was doing. One of the first things he brought up
CSX was going after him and two others for excessive mark offs. I tried
to explain it but it fell on deaf ears. All I heard was "I pay union
dues". Yes, he pays union dues but the union has an obligation to
provide the railroad with manpower. There not here to protect someone
who doesn't work on regular basis. If someone is constantly marking
off there are consequences it's been that was for a few years now. It
wasn't always that way. When I hired out a person only needed to work
one weekend a month to protect their seniority. We had farmers,
teachers, policemen ect...who had other fulltime jobs that held
seniority they did it for the benefits. In the summer that teacher
excersised their seniority as did the farmer in the fall & winter they
marked up to work displacing the younger man. In my opinion that
wasn't right. Policy today dictates no more part-time railroaders.

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 August 2010

If you don't work here, you have no idea what you are talking about,
and aren't entitled to an opinion.  This forum is for railroaders.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 August 2010

This was posted today on the UTU web site. Interesting...but take it
with a giant grain of salt!

        http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=52965

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 August 2010

Sounds like someone got their poor wittle feelings hurt.  Why else would
someone post on a csx-sucks forum whining about people who complain
here?  Hmmm last time I checked this site wasn't made for people who
were happy with the way CSX operates.  Oh and I'm sure you will be
back to read what people say, don't lie and act like you wont be back
because we all know you will.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 August 2010

Hey Friend:

Good! But you'll come back...you all do!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 August 2010

I think everyone on here is pathetic.  If you have an issue with CSX and
it's that bad then just leave!!  It seems to me that most of you want
to receive a paycheck and not be held accountable for doing your job!! 
Also, if you have an issue with someone....talk to them about it!!
Don't bitch on some website.  GROW SOME BALLS!!!  No need to
respond....I will not be on here ever again.  This was my first and
last time.  GET A LIFE!

Name: Todesengel
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 August 2010

This is a warning for the Garret In. guys.Rick Reed was shipped out of
Avon and rumor has it he is going to Garret.Watch out for him. He may
already be there.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 August 2010

It would appear as though fat-ass is turn surfing again.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 August 2010

Nice website haven't been on here for awhile, now where are the
ble-sucks, and the utu-sucks companion sites...They all follow
suit...Earnings going down, all claims denied, no air on engins(real
safe), some caps set at zero but new attendance policy, management is
clueless, Union dues on the rise for these great agreements we are
voteing in(yeah right). This company is now in the business of bonus,
not railroading. And on and on, I could go on for days, but think of
this.. without the railroad and those of us who do our jobs, there is
no bonus...take care of what takes care of you. Jackasses.... Unions
need to respect their members, and management needs to grow a pair and
learn to think for themselves. We need thinkers not "yes"men. I am
supposed to be led by example, but I only know how to railroad, and
dont understand how a 2 year degree in nothing realative to my job can
lead me, I'm not intrested in your degrees, we are not splitting atoms
here. Stupid litte yellow switch tags, and stickmen..all will get your
job, but what do you get for passing their little test? No praise, no
thanks, nothing positive, you just get to keep your job...woo-hooo,
Sorry for the ramble, and please excuse any of my phonetically
challenged words, and grammer. I just needed to vent...have a CSX
ethnical day.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 August 2010

hAy thIss iz fouR al yoU peeopple who post oN CSSX SUkS., DU evverbody a
favor and  LERN TOO SPEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 August 2010

Hey Foamer:

Or should I say Exconrailman, Railroading101, Union101, Noname,
Conductor646 or any other of the dozen or so names you've posted
under...you're making noise, go play quietly now. 

Better yet, study your spelling and grammar!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 August 2010

I can assure you two idiots I payed my dues on the railroad for over 32
years as a locomotive engineer. I never talk down to anyone they just
can't handle the truth. There's a big difference. They want pretty
little pictures of flowers and rainbows when it's not. They want to
find blame in everything. They want to complain on how unfair
everything is. This isn't the military in fact if someone doesn't
like the military today they'll let you out something that didn't
happen in my day not without getting kicked out with a less than
honorable discharge. Hey, Foamer shut the heck up. Who cares if your
grand daddy, daddy & uncles worked for the railroad it doesn't give
you the right to speak. If I remember correctly you live in Toledo
which excuse me is a frigging depressing place not a lot of unions in
that town anymore. I know I started my railroading in Walbridge. I
visit up there occasionaly to see relatives. Carmen just do your brake
test and go home what do you know about the road lifestyle.

Name: exconrailman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 August 2010

Glad to see that there is a few people coming on here that actualy care
about labour unions and the working class people.  Good for you.  NoMo
and RRJ they seem like two RATS who are on here to gain something?  not
sure what but they both do for sure backdoor anyone with a thought. they
also undermine union employees for there pleasure. The constant
correcting of people and the constant bragging about how little they
both know about true rail roaders. hey RRJ try sweating ina car shop
all day and working outside. And as for NoMO what a jackass plant.
Always seems to somehow have the right answer according to himself. He
backdoors everyone on here like a little spolied RAT. he has a answer
to discourage anyone who might be a union member. And then he must read
a manual becuse he comes up witha hundred different reason not to like
unions and then calls (cant remmber his user name) a child after that
guy was right.  NoMO is a RAT RAT RAT PLANT %100.  Ok, NoMO make your
play at a little comeback now. Talk the scab talk you freakin rat. O
yea what was it you call anyone with a opinion NoMO--FOAMER.........  i
also notice that NoMO constantly says "hey" RRJ like RRJ is his hero.
You two should write a book on how to be the very best rail roaders
becuse neither of you know a thing about rail roading. NoMo your turn
to say something stupid and useless from your scab rat manual

Name: railroading101
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 August 2010

Sorry about the typo!  I was talking about RRJ and NoMO the two wish
they could get a hotel room for the night. The two who try and make
anyone and everyone who comes on here look bad.  RRJ and NoMO these two
guys have gotta be company plants. They tlak up CSX and down any
employee with a issues then they backdoor anyone who has any sort of
thought.  hey guys stop reading RR mag's and books. Stop talking to RR
officials and stop playing with each others lionel train set. Your train
orders are bad and neither of you left a Air Slip on the website! and
gave no fuel reading on your ass! See the trainmaster right away. Days
off

Name: railroading101
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 August 2010

Hey NoMO, you are a invester? Stockholder? I was under the assumption
that you worked on the RR?  Hmmm  you come one here sticking up for
shareholders and down unions which in turn downs the working man and
women in this country?  Explain yuoself further. You sound very proud
and full of yourself.  Look you two seem like two pees in a pot one
minute you guys are talking shit about CSX then when anyone else has a
opinion you two jump on them with what apperas to be book and internet
read. Or you talk to CSX officials? You two seem like you want to be
number one on here and will down anyone at any cost and spend hours
trying to make anyone who works for the RR look bad.  I will not say if
I am a RR or how many of my close friends are RRs and how many have
suffered at the hands of CSX overzelaous officials but one thing is for
sure you two need to get a hotle room.  Mabey you can have some fun
after your next shareholder meeting. And as far as NoMO go's what a
comlete blow heart. O man dude get a life. If you are not climbing up
on that locomotive everyday and risking it for your crew then SHUT the
HELL up and go talk about your share of the stocks somewhere else. And
please spare us the trivial idea that you were both company men, so
what how many of us are also, but we are out for all union employees
and the labour movment as that one person NoMO seems to like to argue
with srated.  U guys both need to stop your book store knowledge and
stop spreading BS about your stocks becuse none of us who who through
any and all weather give a fuck about either of you. RJJ I have the
feeling that you mr were a old hat road guy. Probably sat on yuor ass
got fat and had to have your crew member shove your ass onto the engine
and your HUGE lunch and newspapers. You two are for sure a couple of
dirt bag anti union people. Collect the retirment and join the tea
party fellows, leave the RRing to us

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 August 2010

Hey RRJ:

Too many talking heads...too much Government intervention.

Had the Government let the economy correct itself the recession
would have been more severe, unemployment would have been substantially
higher and the business failures would have much more serious. The
upside to that is the recovery would be real and sustainable.

As it stands now we have a "Faux Economy", the economy is being
supported by artificial means...think of it like a boob job, it looks
good, feels good and you are impressed with your success: but deep down
they're still fake...you know it and so does everyone else.

The sooner the economy is allowed to find it's own meander the sooner
we will see real growth. Until that happens we are all subject
to being kicked around!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 August 2010

NoMo

Seems no one is predicting correctly when this downturn is going to
recover. If the market has a good week everyone proclaims it's turning
around then the next week there's a huge sell off dropping prices back
down. Personally I'm thinking 2012 before any change that was the
predictions in 2009 and earlier this year. It isn't the individual
investor stirring it up it's mutual & hedge funds that are jacking up
the prices then selling. That's obvious by just monitoring CSX stock
if one week funds are buying it becomes over inflated then in just one
day they sell off $2 billion in shares. That's happened last week. I
bought CSX because railroad stocks will always rebound besides it's
the only investment in the BLET 401K that has decent chance of any
return on some of my losses. In 17 months it's increased by 43% it's
still nowhere near making me whole. I'm in it for the long haul.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 August 2010

Lloyd

CSX is actually hiring in most crafts. Go to the CSX Gateway look at
the employment section. I was around when we lost 3 jobs both brakemen
& the firemen onboard trains between 1985-1993 their is nothing you can
tell me about downsizing. All of them were negotiated away by the UTU
which gaurenteed protection under the NY Dock plus healthy bonuses,
stock, and retirement accounts. Let's not even go with discussing the
remotes which also was sold out by the UTU. No trainmen I know of has
ever fessed up to voting for the crew consists. None of them bitch
about retiring with the $250,000-$300,000 for giving up jobs. It's
water over the dam. Like you stated in your post most corporations look
at cutting cost unfortunately one of the first places they look is it's
workforce. I think you give CSX to much credit change only happens if
the unions allow it. In the past 5 years MOW & the signal dept were
both under attack by the railroads who wanted to contract the work out.
In 2007 the UTU took the UP to court to stop engineer only trains and
the UTU won. They were backed up by the BLET & BMWE over the safety
concerns. A lot of locomotive engineers wanted blood by eliminating the
conductor after losing jobs to the remotes. A lot of us oldheads knew
that it was wrong because in a business downturn being cut back to a
trainmen was a reality. The most important issue none of us have a say
in this schidt were just pawns.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 August 2010

Hey Lloyd and RRJ:

Unfortunately it's us, the investors that expect and demand continued
stock appreciation and dividend growth. We expect management to take
whatever steps necessary to accomplish that task. We reward this
behavior with huge salaries, bonuses and stock awards and options.

The problem with the economic recovery is the Government intervened
with bailouts rather than letting the economy correct itself. The
financial markets are still over bought which is why there is so much
volatility...the housing market collapse was short stopped and the big
financial institutions were rewarded with bail outs for allowing
homeowners to alter mortgages they couldn't afford and had no business
being qualified for. The auto industry should have been allowed to
fail...a monument to stupidity and greed. When the price
of a domestic mid sized car that's reasonably equipped starts out at
$25K+ and the financing runs 60-72 months. If the average Joe wants a
luxury model which he can't afford to buy so he leases it...now
there's a plan!

I could go on and on but you get the point...greed is just not
exclusive to the Board Room. We will get through this economic
correction...however, if you want to ride the bus, you have to pay the
fare. The fare is becoming due and payable, sooner than later.
When that time arrives it will make the last 3 years look like a Sunday
walk in the park!

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 August 2010

RRJ I have a problem with GREED.  I don't have a problem with people
who hold the stock.  I think anytime a company puts profits ahead of
people having jobs, there is a problem.  It's not just CSX, there are
plenty of companies in America who do the same thing by shipping jobs
overseas and cutting their employees back so bad that most people have
to do twice as much as they did 10 years ago.  If you can look in the
mirror and actually be okay with your stock going up because of a
company getting rid of personnel, well you are a different man than I
am.  I like for the company I work for to make profits, just not at the
expense of another man losing his job.  I'm not saying that you are
okay with that either RRJ, I'm just pointing out that this company
slashes all the jobs they can and they work people to death.  I like
having a job, but I also like to take time to do spend some quality
time with people I love too.  It's a concept that railroads just
can't figure out for some reason.  Just thought I'd make that clear
since I own some myself.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 August 2010

Lloyd 

What do you got against stockholders? The one positive on railroad
stocks is the dividends. It's a long term investment. A lot of CSX
employees own CSX stock. Corporations need investors to survive. With
the market crash of 2008-2009 I invested everything that was left in
the BLET 401K in CSX stock. With my age I didn't have time to wait out
this recession with the old adage buy low hoping in the future it'll
rebound. I'm glad I made the move seeing no one can predict the
future. Having to retire on a permanent disability last year the stress
of watching mutual funds flounder would of been overwelming.
Stockholders don't make policy that's left to those in the ivory
tower in JAX and the board of directors. Yes, they do have an
obligation to the stockholders just as every corporation. With the
onset of implementing PTC by 2015 which will run in the billions the
railroads are limited on implementing new technology. Do I think
eventually freight trains will become engineer only? Yes, possibly in
the next decade or so. That's something the unions will have to fight.
By then maybe the union old cronies will be gone an the next generation
will stand up to the plate.

Name: harriman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 August 2010

I think Jack Vierling and Bob Frulla are plants for the NS designed to
keep CSX from winning the coveted Harriman award. Hard to win the gold
when you are getting 3 personal injuries in one day. 

Safety first until its time to good the work done!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 August 2010

Hey 101:

I doubt you'll see too many 18,000' trains. At 3.4 miles long there
aren't too many siding that will accommodate that size train.
Additionally, in metropolitan areas should the train be forced to stop
it would block too many crossing and become a potential safety problem
for emergency services. Also, should the conductor have to walk the
train it would take an hour each way with good walking conditions. Even
if the RR stationed utility men every 50 miles along the road it would
still take an hour and any savings the RR might see from running ultra
long trains would be lost due to the extra employees they would need.

Trains of that length could be run in a large portion of the country 
west of the Mississippi River because it's scarcely populated and the
distance between towns is greater. However, it would be impossible to
run them east of the river for the opposite reasons.

I think someone was just trying to justify their job when they came up
with the "Whopper". Of course this might be a case of the RR having
to spend millions to save thousands...

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 August 2010

Hey 101, I talked about something similar a few months ago on here.  As
soon as this company sees a way to cut cut cut, they do it.  If it
means more money for the stockholders and less men to have to pay wages
and benefits for, they are all for it.  Some say that they will never go
to one man trains because the public will have an outcry.  I disagree. 
Does the public care about drone aircraft that fly around overseas? 
Does the public care that machines are doing people's work in
factories now across the U.S?  All this technology does is eliminate
people and put more money into the pockets of investors and the few who
actually run the show in a company.  I'll even take it a step further. 
Who is to say that engineer can't take the box along with him and run
the train operations from the ground if he has to do any work?  These
are all things this company has thought about and if you think they
haven't you better wake up.  We either man up and do something while
we still have the opportunity or it will be too late.  People need to
wake the fuck up out here.

Name: rairoading101
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 August 2010

has anyone seen the recent article in a mag about the remote uncoulping
device now being used by a short line RR? it list how many RRers' are
injured on the job per year ect.  Wonder how long before Class 1 RRs
bring this technology online? Do you think that would be bad for ground
crews?  It is supposed to make your conductor job safer? Or do I mean
eliminated? Since remotes have been online for some time now how long
before the technology becomes available to make "engineerless"
locomotive cab?  Also UP RR recently ran a 18 thousand ft.  stack
train, which was just a fesability study in train dynamics?  Wonder how
many train crews would be needed for that one if it comes online or
should we say how mnay would not be needed? Would that be three trains
in one? it is sad to see how many people are loosing there jobs.  Sort
of funny or ironic how all of these so called small businesses are
making it safer for you to not go to work while they pocket millions of
dollars.  O well we can all go to work in the service industry or do i
mean fast food business. Whoopps those jobs are already spoken for by
illegal immigrants. It is like the 1930's all over again.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 August 2010

Goob

When you gonna get it thru that thick cranium of yours that the
railroad is a union closed shop. Sure you don't have to use payroll
deduction for union dues but you better pay every month. I've been to
meeting where we booted people out for non-payment. It didn't take
long before they caught up with their dues when they found out they
couldn't work. The local/division S/T has access every month to
payroll info to keep records for tax purposes.

Name: Should I or Not
E-mail: todatrash@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 August 2010

Ok just got my offer letter and Redi in Sept; Father 35 yrs +, gramps 40
yrs +; great gramps 19 yrs legs were cut off by a car, am I making a
mistake by joining, not desprate for job and have education. Let me
know

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 August 2010

Well as long as we are blowing smoke, I had 20 gazillion . I love it one
loses 5k then here comes 30k, neither can proof that up. The LC and GC
should be talking everyday. That is a small part of the problem, the LC
is working, GC playing Lunch and Golf. Now we have a conflict of
interest. I continue to be amazed at all of the folks that are pissed
off payers.
I must Admit after leaving the rr, I did get a few very slender checks
for a few years. Most were 6 to 8 dollars on 20 dollar claims. And the
amazing thing is I very rarely paid my dues? Heck years later the
Union's are so lame, they have no idea who is on and who is off the
list. That is why they relay on Payroll Deduction. stop and take the
cash for a few and watch em squrim.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 August 2010

Darn, you're complaining about $4000 in claims that haven't been paid
in two years. Try over $30,000 in claims over the past 2-3 years. Do I
think they'll ever be paid? Most likely not they'll be schidt canned
like most. Claims are negotiated away in claims conferences with labor
relations all the time it doesn't matter if their good or not. The
unions don't fight anymore. When they took it away from the LC and
designated it to the GC for handling it's no longer a personal issue.
That GC most likely doesn't know you and doesn't care. Years ago most
claims were handled at the local level today most are handled out of LR
in JAX. I've had TM's resubmit a good claim that was turned down that
they swore they would pay only to have JAX turn them down again. All one
can do is hope in a few years down the road maybe something will turn up
on the pay print out that they haven't a clue about anymore. Call it a
bonus.

Name: Lucky
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 August 2010

CSX will screw you over 3 ways from sunday. I've had over $4,000 in
claims for over 2 years now and the union nor the company wants to pay
them. They want us to work by a contract but yet they continue to right
rules and policies that bypass every agreement we have.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 August 2010

Roger Ziegler is still a low life piece of shit, who has the little man
syndrome.

Name: 
E-mail: flynusmc@aol.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 August 2010

Maybe CSX should call themselves CSWrecks!
God help us all, their track is crap and so is the management!
How Tommorrow Moves my ass!
They could screw up a wet dream!
Im surprised they stay in business!
Good Luck ......
Whatever!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 August 2010

Hot off the UTU web site...

CSX committees ok implementing agreement
 
UTU local chairpersons representing CSX Eastern, Western and Northern
Lines workers have overwhelmingly ratified a new Northern Mid-Atlantic
District implementing agreement. 
More than 91 percent of the local chairpersons voted to ratify the
agreement, which adopts for CSX Eastern, Western and Northern Lines the
agreement covering former Baltimore & Ohio (a CSX predecessor railroad)
lines. 

The agreement covers conductors, trainmen, switchmen and engineer
trainees, protecting prior rights while giving all trainmen affected
blanket seniority over the entire district. 

Although several benefits were enhanced as a result of this agreement,
the Baltimore & Ohio property remains in national handling with regards
to wages, benefits and working conditions and those items will be
addressed in that arena to be voted on at a future date. 

The new agreement is expected to be implemented during the first
quarter of 2011. It affects 47 locals in 13 Northeastern and Midwest
states – essentially the former B&O and Conrail lines now operated by
CSX. 

UTU International Vice President John Previsich assisted in the
negotiations leading to the ratification vote. “The local chairpersons
voted unselfishly and in the best interests of their membership,”
Previsich said. 

General Chairpersons George Casey (GO 081), John Lesniewski (GO 049)
now-retired Dick McVeen (GO 619) and Tony  Pascarella (GO 619), and
vice general chairpersons Jeremy Ferguson (GO 049) and Steve Mavity (GO
049), were praised for their efforts toward reaching this favorable
agreement. 
 
August 5, 2010

Name: noname
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 August 2010

I agree contact your local OSHA department when you see illegal or scabs
doing unsafe work.  Look to make sure scabs have on proper safty
glasses, safety boots ( when warrented) , gloves , reflective vest ect.
make sure they are tied off if working off the ground.  Find safety
viloations on your job that non union or coperation U are working for
has violated safe work acts. Report these right away to OSHA and FOLLOW
UP. Dont waste your time becuse a co worker safety could be in doubt.
Dont let coperate jekr off's scare you away from reporting unsafe work
conditions. This is why unions are so good they train there people to be
safe and have safety training.  Most of your "small" businesses or
scab companys dont have any safety training an dont enforce it. So when
you see a safety violation report it DONT WAIT!!!!!!!!  contact OSHA!!!!
ASAP.  By law you cannot have any retaliation by the company. Scab
companys treat there employess like dirt and you have to ask your self
if your componay is treating you safetly on the job.  They would write
you up ina heart beat to further there white collar carrear so report
them.   Lets all work together for a better and safer workplace.  your
safety counts, there bonus check for finishing quick does not.  If you
need help other's contact local unions to organise.  WOW what a great
topic. and yes this affects all of you too.  REMMEBER ALWAYS FOLLOW UP
WITH OSHA AFTER YOU REPORT TO MAKE SURE SOMETHING IS BEING DOWN.  THIS
IS A PRIORITY.

Name: union101
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 August 2010

Ok, lets first stop the infighting here about unions. Everyone is right
in one way or another.  Yes unions are having a very ruff time of it. 
But and I stress the word but, labour unions were dying in the 1930's
right and yet here they are. next point it is the republican party and
big coperations that are trying to bust out unions or should we say get
rid of them. The Bush Administration gave LOTS of money to the DOL to
try and find a way to get rid of the labour movement. Just like his
administration said there were WMD's in iraq, there were none but he
did what he wanted anyway.  The Republican Party brought illegals by
the thousands in to take away good union jobs. Where do you ask look at
any disturbution center they close there American plant and move it to
Commi China then reopen a disturbution center back here with a few
wealthy white republican "small" business owners then they hire
illegals and there cousins at cheap labour prices with no benifits. 
Look at any TV show on cabel where they show facotory's (any left) the
managment is white and the workers are illegals ie cheap labour. This
why the Democrats are doing a very good job right now. Dont argue this
point becuse people are slowly (painfuly) getting back to work, not as
fast as many of you may like but the Bush Adminstration sold our entire
country out. that is why it was a land mark vicotry for the Democrats.
Now please dont say something dumb like saying all democrats are tree
huggers becuse they are not.  The Republican's want cheap labour, no
unions, small business's to get wealthy at the expense of there
employees ( why they hate health care reform) and they want all
Americans to be poor. This is why the Republicans funded RECORD numbers
of new jails and prisons? The Democrats give hope to so many of us. yes
it will take and yes it is a changing time this is why education in
unions and lawyers are so important right now. So stop your Bull shit
NoMo and come out of your tree for a second to look around you. We are
all in the RR industry or related to it.  Stop focusing on one person
and stop being a rightous asshole all of the time. U come onto a union
web site and say bad things about unions, well Mr help fix it stop
undoing it. The more some of you run your fucking mouths the more dumb
we all look.  Step up organize people go to the short line RR's and
help organize them. Dont blame your union officers.  Go out and find
companys and businese and educate them on what a good union can do. And
yes you can do it. become a leader not a follower like NoMo and so many
others. Coperate wants you to cry baby and infight you stupid idiots
wake the hell up. Step up find work for your local. Jesus Christ why is
it so many workers just sit back and vllame blame blame go out and get
companys to sign up. it is legal and heartful help anyone of all races
beliefs and preferences.  If you see a scab company doing illegal work
or unsafe work take pictures of them and get them to your local OSHA
office right away and then follow up.  People have the right to a safe
work enviorment. STEP UP  GOD Bless you all

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 August 2010

Matt Sanders is still working;as I said business as usual.He did go on
vacation,and it started in the middle of the week.Oh how strange!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 August 2010

Half the people on this board are trolls. Go read a rule book, then
post.

Name: Conductor646
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 August 2010

Um not sure what is going on here? But it appears that this NoMo person
is a real jerk. Of course I dont agree with all that the "foamer"
person said? Whatever that is I must say just about all of his union
points are valid. he is very intelligent on the "union" subject and
the fact more RR's and people in genral should support local unions.
Ok, to my point this NoMO character seems to not know much about
anything other than saying some whaco stuff. NoMO sounds like he is a
scab or what one would call a union buster. And from his prior post he
supports scabs and republicans  ( not sure what went on there) but in
other words stop your little boy arguing NoMO you sound like a school
girl. Also I do agree with the "foamer" (whatever that is) person
that you kiss up here and cause trouble and make very STUPID statments
very often. I should ask you if you have to have a bowl movement or
soemthing? Sounds like you like poop? No offense but this NoMO person
sure does sound like a coperate plant. And please NoMO no more accusing
people of very dumb stuff.  Sorry for the interuption Gentlemen but I am
a RR and dont like jerks like NoMO running there scab mouths. Now go
play with your little Lionel train set NoMO and leave people alone

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 August 2010

NoMo...   Hey Foamer:

Got balls dodn't you. I need some Vodka help for your anger
management problem...by the time you turn 115 you'll be in 
detox if you aren't already.

I gotta take a shit that has been right now on here was in your toilet
You don't know I gotta shit on the rails I need TP cant hold it, CSX
tracks or the not.
between the my legs is poop needing to come out. Oh, by the way, you
cant
wipe either.

You acted the same way last year after your balls froze and pitched a
tantrum. You're still in the out house and who is use to getting
hisnewspaper before the dump.  I have news for you chump, maybe your
mommy and daddy will
indulge you by letting you have lots of cookies and milk ...I wont and
neither will most adults on, I mean yes I You acted the same way last
year after you got busted and pitched a
tantrum. You're still a immature spoiled child who is use to getting
his way. I have news for you chump, maybe your mommy and daddy will
indulge your childish behavior...I need lots of spray deoderizor
I wont and neither will most adults on this site. 

I told you last year and at the risk of masturbating myself, when you
learn the difference between hand lube and crisco oil come back. Until
then,
NoMo should be seated in the bathroom for a good dump and not smelled 
and not heard!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 August 2010

Is Matt Sanders fired yet for what he did?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 August 2010

Hey Foamer:

Got busted didn't you. You need some professional help for your anger
management problem...by the time you turn 15 you'll be in 
Juvie if you aren't already.

The only dumb shit that has been said on here was in your posts.
You don't know shit about the railroads, CSX, unions or the difference
between the Democrats and the Republicans. Oh, by the way, you cant
spell either.

You acted the same way last year after you got busted and pitched a
tantrum. You're still a immature spoiled child who is use to getting
his way. I have news for you chump, maybe your mommy and daddy will
indulge your childish behavior...I wont and neither will most adults on
this site.

I told you last year and at the risk of repeating myself, when you
learn the difference between shit and shinola come back. Until then,
children should be seen and not heard!

Name: foamer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 August 2010

Name: NoMo     Works for a republican think tank.  he kisses ass and
then says dumb shit. Right after he whacks off to his key board.,  be
careful Name: NoMo and dont get caught whacking off in the coperate
office you may get promoted to hide your shame.  Well I have to go
gotta go to work while you collect your welfare check after your wet
republican dreams backfired on you.

Name: foamer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 August 2010

Name: NoMo     I bet U are at home right now and your hand's are
getting sweaty and your palms are shaking. Now Ur gonna jack off to
your key board and then cum on the screen. I have watched this web site
for a while and U always have some negative bull shit to say. U are a
union buster and a corperate scab.  Ok, Name: NoMo  run upstairs and
start whacking off to your chicago bulls poster that U have hanging
over your bed. But be carful you may get caught by mommy this time. U
are such a little immature boy.  U should go back to grade school.  By
the way stop kissing ass on here and then turning around like U know
something.  Stop this "foaming" or whatever you call it. OOpps it is
time for your nap Name: NoMo  you have to be ready to kiss some
corperate ass, you may get a promotion you scab peice of shit.  U are
such a immature little trouble maker.  What is your purpose on this web
site?  You always suck up to people at just the right time.  What I said
you must have had someone read to you as it is clear you cannot read,
but you still read it.  Must have struck a cord.  hmmmmmmm you must be
so mad now bitch.   Now go toy uor room no cookies and milk tonight. 
CSX coperate office says you are grounded.  By the way SHUT THE HELL UP
and keep hiding behind your key borad bitch

Name: blet
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 August 2010

I get damned tired of hearing you guys complain about everything.  If
you don't wanna work quit.  No other craft in the R.R. industry looks
for reasons not to work as much as you slackers.  CSX's new attendance
policy is fair to all employees, we should know, we agreed to it.  We
are down here in the General Chariman's office busting our asses for
you guys.  We show up to work 5 days a week (Mon.-Fri.) minus golf
outings and paid holidays (Most of you guys don't get)  Ha!Ha!Ha!.
And, by the way we only make between $95,000 and $125,000 per year
(plus Bribes and Kickbacks).  So, if you don't like it quit.  Good
luck finding another job that pays as well as you guys do without any
higher education  (most of you guys don't have.

Name: New layoff policy is BS
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 August 2010

ok so if you dont work you dont make money.  Why is CSX doing this
bullshit?  Now it hurts the guys who hardly ever layoff and when an
emergency comes up they either have to use a personal day or vacation. 
WE NEED TO HAVE A SYSTEM WIDE SICK OFF!!!!! fuck the union...they wont
do shit about it so we should.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 August 2010

Hey Friend:

You sound just like the foamer that was here about this time last year
from up around Toledo. 

The unions in this country are dead meat because of greed by the
leadership and complacency by their members....all the education in the
world won't help that.

The politicians, whether Republican or Democrat are bought and paid for
by big business and foreign interests.

The middle class in the United States will be extinct in another
generation or two.

With that being said, get elected to public office or earn your money
the old fashioned way, inherit it or marry it and you'll go far.
Otherwise you and your degrees can huddle with the rest of us and
ponder the meaning of life...like why do ditch diggers have degrees!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 August 2010

Name: sonofjm      if you have to even ask why i posted on this site you
are either a CSX official (scab) or you are a typical cry baby who
thinks coming on to this web site and hating on people will further
your employment. Stop asking why and start asking what you can do to
help out union members. Further dont believe a word the Republicans
tell you becuse it is almost exclusively lies. Ask yourself why all the
suburbian "yuppie" republicans are now loosing there homes and jobs? 
I know I voted Democrat! And yes I did serve my country in the military
and so is my son but we are smart enough to know when someone is pissing
down your back and telling you it is not raining dont belive them. Stop
the infighting and stop the useless cry babying and start helping your
local union members. this is why so many non union officials are
loosing there jobs and back stabbing each other, they thought by
kissing up they would have job security WRONG. Why do you think all of
the apartment owners are now letting people have pets in there
apartments? Point-becuse they can collect large security deposit's and
large rent money then the other people move and it starts over again.
rental propertys are at a all time high right now becuse the "small"
business owners (landlords) are collecting BIG money and not giving a
shit about people and there rights. See my point son this is the
republican way? Not a good thing.  We are at a cross roads right now.
the republican party is using any and all means to get rid of unions
and scare people off.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 August 2010

Cool, not sure but I did not get attacked! very nice.  The reason i
posted on this subject is that before many of you keep crying about
your working conditions and not liking certain people stop and think
what can i do to  help my local union?  try to educate members on Union
history and the labour movment and what sacrafices so many people have
made over the yrs for you to have a good paying job and benifits and
"hopefuly" job security.  Try to get members to go to college and
graduate.  It is absolutaley critical for union members to further
there education now. Not in the history of unions has it been more
critical to go to college. Union's need a lot more members with
college degrees and officers who do not just sit and collect dues to
make there ass even fatter. Also help your fellow brother's by getting
more people to join the union. just look at the south! kentucky , Texas
ect are way SCAB states. People down there dont have any rights. When
they get hurt they are considered weak and useless so they are fired
and have to pay there own medical bills. Point of fact that does not
hold ture for Illegals who seem to get everything free while the rest
of us pay for it. Elect officers who will help out members and not just
sit back and get paid. Vote Democratic... The republican party and fox
news want to get rid of the labour movment and want all scabs and low
pay with no benifits. Like Walmart, benifits no one can afford or no
benifits at all. We need to stay Democratic to help out all of our
people in this great country. The republican party wants nothing short
of poverty and to keep there self rich. republican companys want you to
infight, it is a quick way for them to union bust. hold up your fellow
brothers.  God Bless....

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 August 2010

C S X T R A N S P O R T A T I O N 
SYSTEM BULLETINS/NOTICES 
JULY 30, 2010 

BULLETINS & NOTICES SYSTEM NOTICE 108 

TO: ALL CSX EMPLOYEES 
LOCATION: CSX TRANSPORTATION 
EFFECTIVE: IMMEDIATELY 
SUBJECT: NEW AVAILABILITY STANDARDS 

THE NEW AVAILABILITY STANDARDS SUPERCEDE AND REPLACE ALL EXISTING 
ATTENDANCE MEASUREMENTS AS WELL AS SYSTEM REISSUE NOTICE 100,ITEM 3,
DATED 
JULY 1, 2010. 

MINIMUM AVAILABILITY 
EMPLOYEES WHO ARE UNAVAILABLE FOR ANY NON-COMPENSATED REASON (OTHER
THAN REST DAYS AND TIME OFF MANDATED BY THE HOURS OF 
SERVICE ACT, AS AMENDED BY THE RAIL SAFETY IMPROVEMENT ACT) ON 2 
OR MORE DAYS IN A ROLLING 4-WEEK PERIOD WILL BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW. 

NOTE: AVAILABLE TIME INCLUDES ALL COMPENSATED TIME OFF(INCLUDING 
VACATION, PERSONAL LEAVE, AND PERSONAL BUSINESS), AS WELL AS TIME 
MARKED-OFF FOR FMLA LEAVE OR FOR ANY OTHER MARK-OFFS PROVIDED BY LAW

EXISTING ATTENDANCE DISCIPLINE PROGRESSION PROCESS WILL NOT CHANGE. 

* FIRST 2 ATTENDANCE FAILURES HANDLED WITH WARNING LETTERS. 
* FIRST INVESTIGATION - 2 DAYS OVERHEAD FOR 6 MONTHS. 
* SECOND INVESTIGATION - 5 DAYS ACTUAL SUSPENSION. 
* THIRD INVESTIGATION - DISCIPLINE ASSESSED - UP TO DISMISSAL. 

EMPLOYEE'S RECORD WILL CONTINUE TO BE REVIEWED FOR A PERIOD OF 
THREE YEARS FROM THE CURRENT INCIDENT.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 August 2010

Matt Sanders - Wow!

I hope this doesn't go away.  This company keeps hiring people like
"the juicer" and wonder why morale is so low.  He preached rules
compliance and then engaged in horse play.  Now a good and decent man
is injured. 

They need to clean house at Hawthorne including getting rid of
"Work"man.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 August 2010

Hey RRJ:

Labour unions...I think the friend is a Brit!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 August 2010

That poster is telling the truth. The American people got lazy. Unions
after WWII were at their peak nearly 30% of this countries workers were
union. Unions secured the worker the 5 day 40 hr work week, overtime,
vacations, health coverage, retirement ect...which filtered down to
non-union shops to compete today most of these perks are gone.
Retirements went the way of a 401K plan with the employee contributing
with a possible company contribution, health coverage is non-excistent
or the employee pays out of pocket for a group plan, workers can be
held over the 40 hours per work at straight time ect... I had a friend
who worked for the same non-union business for nearly 20 years. He was
loyal even got up to floor supervisor running a production line and the
shipping department. A college educated twenty-something took over
office management overseeing his department. The kid was dumb as a box
of rocks and my friend had several disageements with him over
operations. My friend ended up being terminated. No recourse could be
taken seeing it was a non-union shop. Lucky for my friend another
company hired him a few months later having to start at the bottom pay
wise. Now unions apparently are in the same position afraid to rock the
boat. The worker bitches and complains but takes no action. Striking is
not a first option it's always the last resort always has been. On the
railroads it takes a lot to get to that point because of the Railway
Labor Act. It needs to start from every union division/local writing
letters of protest to get the attention of the GC or the national
offices. This new attendance policy should be handled as a safety
issue. When the FRA requires rest under their policies the railroad
doesn't have the right to change the rules to circumvent time off. CSX
already had an attendance policy in place that was highly restrictive
people have been terminated under it. Why the need to take it up a
notch?

Name: sonofjm
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 August 2010

What does the previous post have to do with "CSX SUCKS"?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 August 2010

I have Been reading online that a number of class one RR's are in the
process or wanting to "scab" labour out industrial lines and online
small customers all around? They want to "dump" business onto short
line RR (non union scabs) and then charge the short lines to
interchange with them.  Also it sounds very ruff out there for RR's
now. Funny though becuse it is the old saying  new boss same as the old
boss when it comes to Republicans trying to "bust" out unions.  My
family went through yrs of poverty as did a few other RR's in my
family. U always here about the DOL trying to bring unions down.  It is
a shame that so many people are brain washed by main stream media and
say such uneducated things about labour unions. These people have not a
clue to make a educated statment about unions. Most if not all of these
"scab" lovers are angry becuse they do not help there unions they
just feed off of them, then they blame them when they do not get there
way.  labour unions are wht this country great and now all of a sudden
the "baby boomers" are retiring and becoming Republican Tea party
jerks. They were Union Democrats when they worked now they cry baby non
stop and want more and more. We need to keep in mind that baby boomers
are what ruined our economy in the first place. They cried there way to
get what they wanted then "dumped" the following generations.  Unions
are a great part of America. Job security (if you earn it), benifits,
retirment, and a sense of pride and self worth.  Now all of a sudden
there are younger people out there who dont earn there keep or egt laid
off and WOW they blame the uniuon and cry  a river. I lived next to a
guy who said his boss hated unions and he himslef said he hated unions
and I was stupid for my support of labour. Guess what a week later his
boss closed the doors and laid off all of his employees?? he did not
have a leg to stand on.  Support Labour unions and earn your keep. Dont
sit on your ass expecting work to be handed to you.  Vote Democrat and
keep it real. And U who have retired dont keep expecting more handed to
U becuse you want a new Harley and a new dodge truck and a new home.
Dont look down on your kids give them a helping hand. I am sure that i
will get some shit for this post but if you post angry comments it is
you who must be one of those bitter selfish cant earn it people. And
yes I 100% support unuions and the labour movement. Study your history
and get educated as to why even college grads are turning to unions
now. get the facts not the angry BS and lying media

Name: Todesengel
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 July 2010

Matt Sanders shall hereforth be known as "MR. Freeze".

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 July 2010

NOMO
  Yes he did file a report and with him missing work and receiving 
medication,it moves to an FRA reportable incident.I would wager that
"they" tried to cover it up.
I'll keep you posted NOMO.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 July 2010

Hey APE 10-20:

I hoped he filled out an injury report!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 July 2010

NOMO
 The yardmaster is going to be ok but is taking a few days off.

Name: oldhead trainmaster
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 July 2010

I heard Roger Ziegler is the new trainmaster on the Portsmouth sub.  Is
this correct.  I thought he got fired a couple years ago.  Please dont
tell me that piece of shit is still an officer of the company.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 July 2010

Hey APE 10-20:

I hope the YM is alright...he probably has a pretty good burn on his
hand and should have gone to the hospital to have it looked at. Because
he is susceptible to infection, due to the burn, he should stay home for
several days while his hand heals.

That would be impossible to cover up!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 July 2010

Last night(July 28th)Matt Sanders,trainmaster at Hawthorne,tried to play
a practical joke on the yardmaster.He sprayed the yardmaster's hand
with a can of computer cleaning solution.He did not realize just how
cold it would be and caused an injury.This was done in front of a
witness too.Sanders is a bully and a liar and I hope he gets what is
coming to him but with the way CSX closes ranks with their
managers;I'm confident that nothing will happen to him.Rick Reed
almost kills two people after the cut rolled out of Avon and he got
promoted,so something as minor as this will not even cause a ripple.I
keep reading and hearing that top level persons at CSX read this
site(this is providing the folks at little ole Jacksonville CAN
read)and you would think that this incident would anger them.One of
their darlings horse-playing AND causing an injury;are you MR. Brown or
MZ Sandborn going to do anything to Sanders? Can you imagine if a rank
and file person had done this?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 July 2010

Hey Goober:

Osh Kosh B' Gosh...I didn't realize they made close for old men!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 July 2010

Old Danny Spencer's old girl friends Lindsay...the one i heard got his
ass whipped for screwing went crazy and got canned by CSX

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 July 2010

The Unions are just like the Mayor of Bell, Ca.
At one time they made 25k per year, now they make 800k.

Take that statement and do a time line from around 1975 and see who got
the raises and How much they got. Now compare that with a time line for
a conductor/ engineer. Stealing is an Art Form and these folks are GOOD
at it. They have a lock on Your Taxes/ dues, and use as they see fit for
your best interest???

Oh by the way NOMO, I am feeling really recharged, just flew back from
Osh Kosh, took a few years off my old frame.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 July 2010

CSX HAS A COAL, IRON ORE,AND ROAD SALT OPERATION AT IT'S CHESAPEAKE
PIERS FACILITY IN CURTIS BAY MARYLAND. THEY LOAD AND UNLOAD SHIPS AND
BARGES. THE PLACE IS A VIRTUAL VIDEO CAMERA SURVIELLENCE HELL FOR
EMPLOYEES. THERE ARE CAMERAS IN THE LUNCH ROOM AND THE SMALL ROOM WHERE
TWO REFRIGERATORS AND THREE MICROWAVE OVENS ARE LOCATED. YOU ARE
REQUIRED TO WORK EVERY WEEKEND AND HOLIDAY AT STRAIGHT TIME, IF YOU ARE
UNFORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ON SECOND OR THIRD SHIFT. ONE MUST WORK 40
HOURS BEFORE ANY OVERTIME IS PAID. EMPLOYEES ARE REQUIRED TO USE A HAND
SCANNER TO CLOCK IN AND OUT, BUT NOT ALL EMPLOYEES. MAINTENANCE OF WAY
DOESN'T HAVE TO USE THE SCANNER. EVERYTHING IS COVERED WITH 100 YEAR
OLD DIRT, EIGHT INCHES DEEP. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A UNION SHOP, BUT THE
SEVERAL UNIONS THAT SUPPOSEDLY REPRESENT CSX EMPLOYEES THERE ARE
PRACTICALLY NON-EXISTANT. MANAGEMENT CAN FORCE YOU TO WORK A DOUBLE
SHIFT AT ANY TIME. IF YOU HAVE ANY DISTANCE TO DRIVE TO GET HOME, AND
BY THE TIME YOU TAKE A SHOWER, YOU MIGHT GET 4 HOURS SLEEP. UNSAFE AND
VERY DANGEROUS TO HAVE EMPLOYEES OPERATE RAIL CAR DUMPERS,LOAD SHIPS
AND BARGES WITH ONLY 4 HOURS SLEEP. RESPONDING TO EQUIPMENT BREAKDOWNS
WITHOUT ADEQUATE REST IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER. SOME EQUIPMENT AND
MACHINERY OPERATE AT 4,160 VOLTS. THERE ARE TWO CLAM BUCKET PIER CRANES
THAT WERE BUILT IN 1951. THEY ARE USED TO UNLOAD IRON ORE AND SALT.
THESE CRANES ARE LITERALLY FALLING APART.RIVETS ARE RUSTED TO THE POINT
WHERE THEY BARELY HOLD THE IRON SUPERSTRUCTURE TOGETHER. THE OPERATOR
SEATS ARE NOT ATTACHED TO THE FLOOR OF THE CONTROL CAB. THESE CRANES
ARE AS TALL AS A 10 STORY BUILDING. MANY OF THE STEPS  USED TO TRAVERSE
SAID CRANES ARE IN VERY POOR CONDITION AND RUSTED THROUGH. THE PROPERTY
IS OVERRUN WITH NON-UNION OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS, WHO EMPLOY ILLEGAL
ALIENS. NO ENGLISH SPOKEN HERE. THE PLACE LOOKS LIKE A THIRD WORLD
COUNTRY. WE ALL KNOW THAT THESE UNFORTUNATE SOULS ARE PAID SLAVE LABOR
WAGES. THAT'S JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. CSX SUX !!!!!!!!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 July 2010

If there was a "Brown Banana Derby"...Danny would be in the lead by
several furlongs!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 July 2010

It's Sunday July the 25th and Danny Spencer Jr. is still a thief. 
Don't forget guys, when he stole from CSX he stole from all of us.
Thieves and Pediofile's are the lowest of all lows.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 July 2010

It's Saturday July the 24th, 2010 and Danny Spencer Jr. is still a
thief.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 July 2010

Hey RRJ:

Yeah...there's nothing like a yard of dick and a bucket of
balls...they use to have to put'em in a wheelbarrow to move around!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 July 2010

NoMo

The union went from brass balls to a set of glass balls. Instead of
hearing clink-clink-clink it's now pinck-pinck-crack. OPPS!!!!!!!
Don't you hate when that happens? lmfao

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 July 2010

Hey Goober:

Back to your old vitriolic self I see...glad your feeling better!

The unions aren't getting any better and the members don't care. In
fact, They continue to enable the union's behavior by not demanding
accountability for their money. The unions no longer represent labor,
they represent management.

Back in your day the unions had some stones...today their stones have
atrophied to pebbles. Within the next 10 years the RR unions will be
nothing but memories as will the high paying jobs the men once enjoyed!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 July 2010

To blue Balls,
Thanks for your service. Now hit the road, see what the real world is
all about.Mamby Pamby. Cry a river about your bud's???? BS

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 July 2010

For your enjoyment:

            http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81042486/

Name: Blue Balls
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 July 2010

I am so tired of this job and this outfit. I have put up with so much
shi t that I am ready to leave this hell hole. I want to thank
corporate first off for the communication gaps within the CSXT rail
network. I also want to think the devision offices for doing such an
awesome and outstanding job. I would lastly like to think the terminal
officers of this fine company for hiding in the bushes and typing etest
values into the opts tracking systym. I almost forgot though I want to
thank all the conductors and engineers for a job well done! Thank you
for helping the young conductor on a cold night when he wasn't
prepared for combat on csx. Thank you for helping me through the night
when I was exausted. Thank you for training me the right way. Thank you
for warning me about the enemy battallions down the road snapping
pictures for etesting. How can management call themselves a team when
the real team is the guys in the woods?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 July 2010

Hancock better be looking over his shoulder, they may be gaining on
him!

    http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=52588

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 July 2010

Hey Signalman, fuck you! You don't live under near the constant scutiny
we do! Burn in hell will ya!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 July 2010

I think my dog needs to have his anal glands secreted.  Do any of you
guys have any idea on how to perform this delicate task?  Oh hell, I
have to go take a big (Joe Berry) sized shit now.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 July 2010

Male same circumstances, zero, nada, be a man, so sorry,

Now ain't that some stuff. She was at the right time, and the right
place, glad she got the money. Who says that sticks and stones may hurt
my bones but words never will.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 July 2010

I saw this posted this morning and thought to myself...just the kind of
guy labor needs on the NMB. Notice his degrees...bull shit and double
talk!

    http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=52476

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 July 2010

Good for her. Glad to see someone take on CSX and there assinine
arogrant local management. Which is a reflextion of upper management
who allow such behavior. Best course of action win her appeals on
getting her job back then quit on her first day back. A friend of mine
did that years ago he got fired over an over zealous special agent who
maced him then my friend kicked his arse. After it was found out in the
appeals that this special agent had multiple infractions of brutality
when he was a police officer my friend won his case with 2 years back
pay. About 6 months after returning to work in 1991 the railroad
offered a $75,000 buyout he knew he had a target on his back so he took
it an left. No problem he went back up north and was hired on another
railroad.

Name: knock knock
E-mail: whos there
Employed as: Yard Master, for N/A
Posted: 10 July 2010

Woman awarded over $2 million in lawsuit vs. CSX
by By FRED PACE, EDITOR
9 days ago | 773 views | 0  | 8  |  |  
MADISON — A Boone County native has been awarded over $2 million in a
lawsuit against railroad transportation giant CSX Transportation.

Angela Smith, a female trainmaster and yardmaster, filed a lawsuit
against the company in 2007, according to one of her lawyer’s Harry M.
Hatfield of Hatfield & Hatfield in Madison.

“She was terminated in retaliation for having filed a lawsuit against
the company and as a result of her complaints of sexual harassment,”
Hatfield told The Coal Valley News on Monday.

The civil action in Boone County Circuit Court lasted about four
weeks.

The seven-member jury found that Smith was subjected to a hostile work
environment, which is in violation of the West Virginia Human Rights
Act.

The lawsuit claimed that Smith was allegedly a victim of sexual
harassment at the Danville rail yards.

Smith, who grew up in the Ashford area, also alleged misconduct by a
supervisor identified in the lawsuit as Earnest Wesley Knick.

The verdict said the company negligently retained Knick as an employee
and that such negligence proximately caused the damages alleged by
Smith.

The verdict also said that CSX did not adequately investigate or
respond to the misconduct alleged by Smith and retaliated against her
by firing her.

Smith was awarded back pay of $277,600 and front pay of $1 million. She
also received $280,000 for “aggravation, inconvenience, indignity,
embarrassment, humiliation, and emotional distress.”

The jury also awarded Smith punitive damages in the amount of $500,000
for a total of $2,057,600, Hatfield said.

“I think the many days of testimony and evidence showed the true facts
of this case and the jury sided with Ms. Smith,” Hatfield said.

He said Smith has appealed her termination from CSX to a railroad
arbitrator and that case is ongoing.

Boone County Circuit Judge William Thompson said Smith can’t received
double damages and any amount she may get from arbitration would be
deducted from her civil action verdict.

Hatfield said he expects CSX to appeal the decision.

“It’s too soon to appeal right now, but I would be shocked if they
didn’t appeal when the time comes,” he said. “However, we plan on
protecting this verdict.”




Read more: Coal Valley News - Woman awarded over 2 million in lawsuit
vs CSX

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 July 2010

This is a big deal...I'm sure somewhere in there is some logic!

   http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=52406

Name: "the only white man from Balti
E-mail: CSXSUCKS@gof yourse;fmward.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 July 2010

Been out of the railroad now for 18 months.  This place can go fuck
itself.  God bless all the friends I made.  But get out while you can!!
 Ladies and Gentleman, it is now 07/05/10, AND CSX STILL F'ING SUCKS!!!
 God Bless!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 July 2010

Congrats to Angie, aka Danvilles finest yardmaster :)

Name: w
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 July 2010

I hope all you folks in CSXSUCKS.COM land have a happy and safe 4th of
July.  As for the exceptions Signal Man and Danny Spencer Jr. I hope
you go Fuck Yourself, then burn in Hell you lowlife pieces of shit.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 July 2010

The Signalman I'm sure is either an electrician and/or instrumentation
tech by trade and should be able to find a job anywhere that pays
substantially more than working for CSX. If he doesn't like the
bitching, the door is always open!

As for PTC, it was a done deal well before the California accident, so
rethink your argument...besides, it means job security for you and a
lot of OT until it's fully implemented. So who's crying now!

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 July 2010

hey Signal man...come do our job and put up with the bullshit we do and
then you can have a opinion about how much we complain.

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 July 2010

this has got to be a joke.. A big group of conductors and engineers that
have nothing better to do then cry. I am a signalman with CSX and have
never heard anyone cry and bitch as much as you guys. If you dont like
your jobs then quit. It is because of your rule violations and not
paying attention you ever get in trouble. Everytime I have to go to a
meeting with trans I hate it you are a big group of crying bitches.
Also it was a trans person that is making us work extra hard under FRA
and now we have to add PTC because one of you guys in California killed
a bunch of people while texting. Here is a hint, try to go get another
job and see if you get paid 50+K a year to sit on your ass and complain
because a caller runner didnt bring you ice and crew packs.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 July 2010

took a look at the proposed consolidation that CSX wants to impose. 
Looks like Montgomery and Erwin are really gonna take up the ass.  Also
it is very obvious that CSX is kissing the SCL's ass and wanting to
punish the L&N for voting down the last agreement.  Wow what a great
company to work for.  The L&N local chairmen need to get off there
asses and stop this before shit really hits the fan.  Would like to
hear what everyone else has to say about this horse shit

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 July 2010

Did the webmaster forget about this website? Doesn't look like it has
been updated in the longest time. well besides the daily comments that
people post.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 July 2010

Pamela L. Carter
Vice President and President, Distribution Business
Cummins, Inc.
Columbus ,  IN
Sector: INDUSTRIAL GOODS  /  Diversified Machinery
Officer since January 2001
 
Director ,  Spectra Energy Corporation
Houston ,  TX
Sector: BASIC MATERIALS  /  Oil & Gas Pipelines
 
60 Years Old
Pamela Carter, President - Cummins Filtration (2006-2008), President -
Fleetguard (2005-2006), Vice President - WW Sales, Marketing and
Logistics - Fleetguard (2001-2005).

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 July 2010

The newest member of the BoD.

http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1443208&highlight=

Name: jack vierling
E-mail: i suck frulla.com
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 June 2010

I am 38 and you are thinking of my daddy. I rode his coat tails to the
position I am in now. Being Frullas "not so little" bitch has helped.
I am in over my head and wish I had my mommy to cry on when I lose big
court cases.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 June 2010

I see Jack Vierling mentioned is several post's.
Does any one know his age. The Jack that I know must be at least 68.
Maybe there is a Jack Junior?

On the L&N we just nicked him "dirty Shirt"
I kinda think this might be the one and same.
x LC BRT, UTU.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 June 2010

YM

Good for Angie. You're absolutely right glad to see someone take a
stand and win. How is it Wes Nick was never criminally charged with
cutting her fuel lines? It seemed right petty to fire her for not
writing that the van ride was for going home when CSX authorized it.
The van service should be fired for double charging that's
embezzeling. My guess is most of us never heard of this situation till
it was brought up on this site. I know I didn't. So, lack of support
is excusable. It seemed have been hidden under the radar it sounds like
it happened on the Huntington Division which I worked on. It's not
shocking seeing CSX and management doesn't live by their own code of
ethics.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 June 2010

T

Over the past few years many different scenarios have been submitted
for consideration to change calling times. One was "calling windows"
like shift work one group would protect road runs from 0700-1500,
1500-2300, 2300-0700 it never materialized. CSX would have had to
establish gaurentees for freight pools to make it work. That wasn't
going to happen. You think that would of been fair? The oldhead could
sit at home on the first shift collecting gaurentee mon-thurs because
we all know MOW has the track most runs get called before the cut-off
at 0700 an after 1600. I personally liked the idea might of caught 0-2
trains a week before rest days. Scheduled trains are gone. CSX states
coal trains when enroute are 3 days ahead of schedule to be at the
piers. Piggy-backs if you're lucky to run UPS or the hot Tropicana
Juice train are to few and most likely preferred jobs. Best advise try
to bounce from road to yard during the year split it up. It might help
to keep from being burnt out. I know for engineers yard jobs are few to
none in some locations. It's something I should of done years ago I
would of still been married to ex-wife #2 who hated the railroad road
life. Water over the dam.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 June 2010

Start Sunday off with a laugh:

        http://nynerd.com/corporation-family-comic/

Name: T
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 June 2010

That's exactly my point. Why not schedules? Why not set times? Regular
jobs? Why not show up at a certain time each day and take the first
train?? Greed is why. Boo hoo I can't make as much money if I can't
live out here. CSX can run more trains with less people if they don't
have to give us a SAFE predictable schedule. Greed.

Name: Laughing at all of you!!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 June 2010

It's quite funny how all of you have no idea what this case was all
about.  If you had been the "real" union brothers and sisters that
you claim to be, you would have been there in total support of Angie
Smith.  The facts of the case were that she rode taxis to and from work
due to the retaliation of CSX and Wes Knick cutting fuel lines on her
car.  Then, William's Transport having 7 to 8 different alias's when
signing their trip tickets so they can double charge CSX.  Facts in the
case came out that CSX has known abouut this for many years and have in
fact sued William's Transport in trying to recover these monies.  Mr.
Vierling testified that she wasn't fired for using these taxis, only
that she filled the tickets out without explaining that the taxis were
for her trips home.  He even admitted that CSX often orders taxis for
their managers who are having car problems and for those who show up at
work drunk.  Bottom line is, a jury of Angie's peers heard ALL of the
facts and they chose to side with her.  That doesn't happen by
mistake.  Congratulations Angie.  It is wonderful that someone finally
stands up and takes CSX on instead of bitching about their treatment on
this site!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 June 2010

It appear as though Dennis Sheldon is on the fast track to becoming a
RFE,  keep up the good work Dennis, maybe all that time you're
spending on your knees, and doing favors will pay off.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 June 2010

An 8 or 10 hr calling time has been discussed for at least 16 years.
It'll never happen not in the near future. Biggest obsticle there
aren't any scheduled trains anymore except a few road switchers those
are going by the wayside. Waiting for a call beyond projected calling
times is nothing new. It's part of the job. Some of you think you're
going to change it or think those who accept it are complacent. Well,
you better get complacent it's not going to change. It's a pain in
the arse to sit around first out at times for 12+ hrs that's part of
the job. Once we hire out we take the good and the bad. I wish it could
be changed in a perfect world but it's not reality. Heck I've gotten
so pissed off at sitting around I'd mark off. I figure I'll show them
it only hurt my paycheck the person first out on the board didn't like
it. At the home terminal is one thing but at the away from home
terminal the union should do something about excessive waiting times.
If CSX can't get you back out of the lodging in a reasonable timeframe
the unions should take action. Many of times I'd sit 16-18+ hours with
5 crews with 3 rested behind me in the hotel. I'd get called and then
they would deadhead two crews behind me. This happened to crews all the
time. No logic behind it. No easy answers.

Name: Ms danvill
E-mail: Asmo
Employed as: Yard Master, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 June 2010

Word is Angie smith won her case against Csx . Found Csx guilty on all
counts/sexual harrassment withthanks going too wes knick. Next followed
up by retaliation for daring to report it.. Honor goes to jack Vierling
for firing her . Maybe Csx can sell his black belt in six sigma with
jay fleenors dentures and have enough for attorney fees. Honorable
mention goes to Terry schray and randy hall for nailing down the loose
ends and making sure the jurors had no doubt what a sleazy bunch Csx
has at the hel

Name: The Chairman
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 June 2010

I don't check this site often so responding will do no good. We have
discussed a longer call many times before. 4 hours is about as long as
we could realistically hope to achive for through freight runs. Most
people don't want more than 2 hours because they want to sleep as long
as possible and have trouble going back to sleep after they're called.
There was some talk when the RSIA was being drawn up that would have
resulted in a 10 hour call but it never materialized. I think a 10 hour
call would be great! But, it would take the FRA to make it happen. We'd
never be able to negotiate that with the carrier. If they even
considered it (which they wouldn't) they'd want your first born and a
kidney for it. They can't get 2 hours right, much less 10.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 June 2010

I doubt seriously that a 10 mile run on that line by a Steam Locomotive
and it's tender would effect the movement of freight one iota...20
minutes at the outside.

CSX tentatively approved it and then changed their mind, probably
because of liability issues.

Foamers or not, it's in CSX's best interests to accommodate events
like this if possible!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 June 2010

Jimmy,

  Fuck the Western Maryland Scenic 2-8-0, were in the the business to
run freight, not to kiss a bunch of foamer's asses.

Name: Jimmy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 June 2010

Anyone hear about CSX's refusal to let Western Maryland Scenic's 2-8-0
to travel the 10 miles or so from Cumberland MD to Greenspring WV to
connect with the SBVRR so that it could be featured in this weekend's
railfest in Petersburg WV?  Even a phone call from WV Governor Joe
Manchin to Jacksonville fell on deaf ears.  CSX refused to give a
reason for their refusal.  Way to go with PR, there CSX!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 June 2010

Very well stated Ms. Lucas.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 June 2010

Slack Action,

My computer just came back up after being down for 24 hours due to
storms. Once again counting on IVR to have accurate line ups..... Not
mine or anyone elses responsiblity to do research on computer to figure
out train line ups on east and west end....  couldnt have if I wanted
to!

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 June 2010

Also try using the TOSS screen

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 June 2010

T

What? You think we haven't tried to get better more accurite line-ups.
It's like beating your head up against a wall. In 1950 they had
accurite line-ups. So what happened? You have yardmasters who have more
responsibilities then they should some are assigned to 2-3 yards like
Richmond on the C&O side the YM controls Fulton & Newport News Yards.
Clerk jobs are almost extinct line ups at one time were their
responsiblity not anymore. TM's could help if you can find one. Wait
there to busy doing multiple unneccesary weekly banner test ect...their
not in the office. Crew callers there centralized down in JAX they
don't have the time. Train Dispatchers are assigned to much territory
on the mainline plus all yards. It's called downsizing that is what
happened.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 June 2010

Open mainframe

RTAO ( see what's comming) or scheduled

&

TMTL (train location)

Name: T
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 June 2010

I agree with Suzannah. It is 2010 not 1950. A 2 hour call is
unacceptable. Inaccurate train line-ups should not just be "part of
the  job". Those of you that think so are part of the problem. The
rest of us should not be punished and work fatigued because the status
quo is to turn on your rest and not work a regular schedule.   Of
course CSX likes this way because it takes less of us if we're all
working on our rest.I think the FRA should be all over this. You cannot
be rested if you don't know when you are going to work. Two days after
six consecutive days does nothing for anyone.  Ever sit first out until
its time to go back to bed?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 June 2010

It's a valid complaint. We had accurite line-ups before computers when
the only info came from local crew callers. The last years I never used
the IVR not even in the lodging because of faulty info. Take Newport
News with only empty coal trains and one switcher H775 scheduled IVR
line up would show 6 empty trains and H775. No way in hell could 6
empty trains be built in 12 hours if lucky mabey 4 in 24 hours and that
was rare. Problem was at one time it could be done but CSX stopped early
quits which stopped the motivation to get the work done on time. Toss in
incompetent management to the equation it became a three ring circus.
One of the biggest TM idiots was Warren "Kangaroo Jack" Rennick.
Change needs to come from the union and that doesn't seem like it's
going to happen anytime in the near future.

Name: oh my
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 June 2010

Ms. Lucas, 
   If you can't beat em' join em', I think you would make a find RFE
or Trainmaster.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 June 2010

NOMO:

I agree.  It does seem like it would be easy to do.  Just set the train
back like in the Old RTTO/RTT1 system....or annul it..

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 June 2010

Hey Slack:

I'm not talking about the consist...your right about that. I'm
talking about trains scheduled on the IVR that are never called or
called hours later than shown.

For example, I will use the Q572 which was always shown as called for
0045 at Gentilly...it was usually after 0400 and often times later than
that before it was called. How hard would it be for the YM or TM to
adjust the time...it wouldn't. Whether you at home or
away that four hours is important to the employee. Common courtesy
and sense is apparently a one way street. 

The fact is the that bonuses are paid for on time performance. You call
the light, put out with the Yard Master, say 0600 for a 0330 call and
tie up your ticket using 0600. You could pull up you trains history to
check something and guess what time is shown has the departure
time...0330. Try to correct it and see what happens...all hell breaks
loose.

Perhaps someone can explain to me the difference between a contract
employee falsifying a trip ticket and a TM. Stealing time is the same
as stealing money!

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 June 2010

OH MY...

When a supervisor tells you that a train had been yarded at 2 a.m and
it wasnt going to run through because they annulled it and its still on
the IVR at noon, that IS NOT how it "Just is"!  That is pure
incompetence at the expense of the employees sitting at home counting
on the IVR to be correct so they some idea what they can do with the
little time they have off....If I dont like it quit! That kind of "Lay
Down" and take it attitude is what created this entire mess to begin
with

OH MY...OH MY......20-30 years?  I think you have been conditioned.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 June 2010

NOMO: It might take a clerk alot longer than you think to get a train
right.   First is it on  STEPS...Now remember, did the train s/o or p/u
on line of road, this is one big cluster flock.  Might be wating on
condr to fax in the green sheet . Did the scanner (video)  get the
right train.  The scanner might pick up a northbound train and
southbound train at the same time, thus putting extra cars on a train
for no reason. You might have to run numerous car records just to get a
train straight.   Now getting a train from interchange is a nightmare...
 run ILES,EBN and look for the 418, correct all erros pull up the SBOABS
and change the MP,  did the 418 cross over, is billing correct, is the
blocking correct, check work order for erros, any hazmat in train,
waybill info... the list goes on and on..

Some trains are easier than others, the company wants the computer to
do everything... The old days of sending a clerk out to walk the train
and write down the car numbers and get the train right are long since
gone... Even when there were cameras it was better.  Now it is a big
guessing game.  Hope this helps...

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 June 2010

Keeping a straight train line up should be rudimentary...the railroad is
all about production, if you can't keep your production schedule
straight you shouldn't be in business.

If a train is pulled or set back, it takes 30 seconds for a clerk to
make the adjustment in the system. CSX expects their employees to be
available within a two hour call. I don't think it's unreasonable for
the employees to expect CSX to maintain accurate information in their
system concerning their product!

Name: oh my
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 June 2010

She took a job with the Railroad and she's complaining about ghost
trains. Just part of the job, if ytou don't like it quit.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2010

RRJ,

GOOD IDEA!!  Call the Tm ans YD master every 3 hours and find out about
the ghost train....HAS IT LEFT ITS TERMINAL YET.....IS IT COMING YET....
WHY HASNT IT LEFT ITS TERMINAL YET...ITS BEEN 12 HOURS AND ITS STILL ON
THE IVR.....WHAT!!!  ITS NOT COMING NOW!!!!  crap!  I could have had a
real life if I didnt have to spend all day on the phone!   HA!  HA! 
Why even have the IVR.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2010

I am a conductor employed by CSX for a railroad which is co-owned by CSX
and NS.  We have a unique situation.  We do not have a conductor-only
agreement.  We currently fall under the SCL.  A contract was proposed
to us about 2 months ago.  General Chairman John Hancock said to not
get too upset about the contract because there were a lot of revisions
to be made through negotiations.  This week we were proposed a revision
that happened to be the exact same as the first.  Hancock drove up to
hold a meeting with us.  He is trying to explain to us that it is in
OUR best interest to give up a brakeman(lay about 5 guys off) so that
we will get a 2% raise in 3 years.  The contract is nowhere close to
being better than what we currently have.  Why is Hancock trying to
push this?  We have had concerns over him the past few years anyways. 
Also, none of the 20 employees on our railroad received ballots to vote
for the bid system recently, even though we fall under the SCL.  Can
someone please help....we are talking about getting out of the UTU
altogether because of this.  Thanks

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 June 2010

What's with this?

A mail problem involving the first vote and misinformation regarding
balloting procedures? 

Tell it like is is...you didn't get the vote you wanted so you drummed
up a lame excuse to hold another...and if you didn't get the voted you
wanted, you would have held a third!


GO 201 members ratify CSX pact
 
UTU members represented by CSX General Committee 201 (former Chesapeake
& Ohio) have ratified a five-year wage, rules and working-conditions
agreement.

The same agreement previously was ratified by members of General
Committee 851 (former Seaboard Coast Line). 

It also was ratified by all crafts of General Committee 025 (former
Atlanta & West Point) following a revote owing to a tie ballot among
the trainmen craft. 

The agreement previously was rejected by all crafts of General
Committee 513 (former Louisville & Nashville, and Nashville,
Chattanooga & St. Louis).

The agreement -- dealing specifically with issues and circumstances
unique to CSX southern lines -- was negotiated outside national
handling, with approval of the UTU Association of General Chairpersons,
District 1, and the National Carriers Conference Committee. 

GO 201 General Chairperson Jim Townsend said the tentative agreement
was sent out for a second vote because of mail delivery problems and
misinformation regarding balloting procedures involving the first vote.


In that first vote, the conductor craft rejected the tentative
agreement, although it was approved by all other crafts. Townsend said
that following the first vote, he began receiving "numerous"
telephone calls from local officers and members alerting him of  a mail
delivery problem and misinformation among newer members regarding
balloting procedures.

Where just a small percentage of conductors and other craft members
returned ballots on the first vote (owing to the delivery and
misinformation problems), some 70 percent of GO 201 members voted on
the second ballot, which was approved by 61 percent of those voting,
and by all crafts under the UTU Constitution’s craft autonomy
provisions.

"I’m so proud of my local officers and members for making their voices
heard," Townsend said. "This reinforces the privilege and honor I have
representing these members."

Townsend singled out for "praise" four of his locals for efforts in
ensuring members, on the second vote, received and cast ballots and
fully understood voting procedures. They are Local 915 in Handley,
W.Va., where 81 percent of members cast ballots; Local 118 in Hinton,
W. Va., where 75 percent of members cast ballots; Local 662 in
Richmond, Va., where 71 percent of members cast ballots; and Local 630
in Ashland, Ky., where 70 percent of members cast ballots. 
 
June 18, 2010

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 June 2010

suzannah

Call the yardmaster. That's how I handled trains that sit on the
line-up beyond the projected calling times. We use to get them all the
time I'm sure it hasn't changed. Some were specials, some were coal
trains that the pier couldn't take, some had problems, others needed
cars added to it ect...that's why they were yarded. The yardmaster
will answer your questions if they get pissed off because their busy
get pissed off right back you're entitled to the info. I don't think
calling the International, GC, FRA ect...is a good idea. Sometimes
it's necessary to keep it local. Making waves could put a target on
ones back. I know you've been there before. If I had a nickle for
every day I wasted sitting first out it would be a nice sum of money.
That's part of the job.

Name: me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 June 2010

It's funny how CSX has two sets of standards for it's employees. 
Danny Spencer Jr. gets caught stealing from CSX,  and he is allowed to
exercise his seniority as a Trainman. Yet a Transportation employee
gets terminated.   Fuck You Danny Spencer Jr. and the suck train you
rode in on.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 June 2010

Hey Suzannah:

Probably should have had those contractors back to fix that deck...
hard to be a Bronze Goddess without a deck, hope your farmers tan
isn't showing;)

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 June 2010

Joke!!!

Is anyone else out there on other divisions having problems with
"GHOST" trains being programed into the IVR and on the train line
ups?  I have been first out since 4a.m. this morning and there has been
a train on the line up for 6 am since late last night. Come to find out
after numerous calls I shouldnt have to make, that the train was yarded
and annulled earlier in the morning. It is noon and it is still in the
line up to run on the IVR. I called and left messages with the
International and my general chairman(they are all in meetings). I also
called and left a message with the FRA fatigue specialist.  This crap of
being held hostage in your home because you dont know if they are going
to call you at any minute is getting out of control.How hard is it for
management to take the damb train off the line up or change the call
times if they are going to run it late. If this is going on in your
area I would like to know because its about time something is done
about this!!!

Name: red
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 June 2010

I've been laid off and just came back to work.  I'm on the road. Does
anyone know how many qualifing days I need for vacation.

I'm hearing 240 or 234 does anyone know for sure.

Thanks

Name: New dude
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 June 2010

ladies and gentlemen,

    I am new to CSX and based on what i have read this company sucks,
but only because management interprets the rule book one way and the
union guys another.  Granted i think management uses intimidation and
will not hesitate to fire someone even without due process but call me
new but as long as i follow the rules i will not have a problem.  I am
sure the day i get fired my opinion will change, but luckily I am
trying to get as familiar with the rules book as possible so they
can't find a bullshit reason.  Also i keep hearing oldheads saying how
bad it is, well maybe they need to work outside of the RR and they will
see it sucks everywhere.  Good luck finding a job that has good
retirement like the RR, because this day in age 401K isn't worth dick.
 Also just for the record....BANNERS are to me harassment.  Does
management have anything else better to do?  Thank God we passed this
idiotic test with flying colors.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 June 2010

Hey Goober:

I agree verbal abuse is over worked but it is against the law to allow
a hostile work environment, which is what happened. 

Had the comment been made to a male employee, nothing would have been
said, at least on the property, It wasn't. It was said to a female
employee by a male supervisor.

Over the last 10 years, CSX has hired college graduates as first line
supervisors and paid them accordingly. That being said, I would hold
them to a higher standard than the old heads of the past. 

By transferring Nick, CSX tacitly condoned his comments and behavior.
Nothing will change until there are serious consequences
attached to behavior like that!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 June 2010

Verbal abuse is so over worked, the answer is walk away.
Not a sole on earth that can be verbally abused unless they allow it to
happen.

Now when the stupidvisor will not allow you to walk we have a second
situation to deal with.

Holding a Gun, Knife, Hand cuffs,

Let em vent, just walk, you will always win. Now if ya want to sue, ya
got a hard road.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 June 2010

I agree that Angie Smith deserved to be terminated for stealing...she
brought that upon herself. She did not however deserve to be verbally
abused by Mr. Nick...the cream of the CSX crop!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 June 2010

Hey Ruth:

Do us all a favor by only posting under one topic...if you don't you
sound like a nagging old woman that needs to follow her own advice!

Name: Dr Ruth
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2010

C&O Joe:

Sounds like to me you may be the one that needs laid. Maybe you and Wes
could do each other since you both seem to be experts on who needs
fucked.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 June 2010

She deserved to get terminated for being stupid. My point was if Wes
Nick did tell her she needed to "get fucked" that could lead to a
lawsuit courts frown on sexual harrassment and this would be a good
case. If you remember a few years ago doing the operating rules on the
pod one of the videos was about gay rights in the workplace that a
person could not be harrassed at any level. Heck CSX might still show
it every year I don't know I'm retired. I just know from Clifton
Forge when Nick was there he had a mouth on him that was going to get
him in trouble one day. Of course CSX would just move him to another
location make him take an anger management class which is pretty
standard with officials today.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 June 2010

She was fired for calling a Taxi to bring her to work every day and take
her home each night then writing up the ticket like it was a run From
Danville to Hinton which is about the biggest run the taxi's get. That
was stupid and she got fired legitamitly. I didn't say Wes Nick was a
good guy, just that in this case he may be right. She probably does
need fucked.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 June 2010

Wes Nick is an idiot. If he made that comment she deserves to win a
lawsuit. CSX an ethics that is a contradiction.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 June 2010

Angie Smith got what she deserved. She got fired the same way any of us
would for stealing from CSX. The differance was that she expected it to
be ok because she was a gay woman and had a lawsuit aginst them because
Wes Nick said she needed fucked. He was probably right.

Name: Mongo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 June 2010

I just put in apps for Batlimore, Cumberland and Richmond VA. Granted if
Im lucky to get interviewed and hired. Does anyone know what these
terminals are like? I see good and bad comments at this site so I
figure someone here can hopefully give me a straight answer. I live in
PA and applied for openings in VA and MD.....what are the odds of
getting hired? Does it matter that Im willing to relocate or am I SOL
since I live in PA and would have to move myself down to near the
terminal that I would hopefully luckly get hired at. Any advice on the
interviews and what not would be of great help.

Name: flo joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 June 2010

everyone might like to know that Tom Wolfe, eveyones favorite VP,and ex
GM of Florence Divisions son Tom Wolfe Jr caused major derailment at
Newport News. Shut down entire sub division....Im sure Wolfe Sr. would
be more than understanding if it had happened to one of his
crews....maybe he can promote him to AVP under daddy's watch

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 June 2010

CSXI to merge with CSXT 

Later this month, CSX Intermodal (CSXI) will merge with CSX
Transportation. The companies, both of which are headquartered in
Jacksonville, Fla., will combine on or about June 26, Progressive
Railroading reports. 

"CSXI will no longer be a separate entity," said CSX Corp. spokesman
Gary Sease in an email. "We are combining the sales force and related
support activities of CSXI into CSXT." 

Founded in 1988 and a wholly owned CSX subsidiary, CSXI employs more
than 1,000 and operates more than 30 intermodal terminals in the United
States. The company also manages its own truck operations and a
dedicated fleet of domestic containers. 

(The preceding report by Jeff Stagl appeared on the Web site
www.progressiverailroading.com on June 7, 2010.) 
 
June 8, 2010

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 June 2010

That sounds like buyers remorse. Didn't it seem strange paying for a
job that is mostly OJT? No one forced you. Your comments on job
conditions definitely doesn't make sense. It's a railroad which
isn't difficult to comprehend it meant traveling. Furloughs are part
of the game some can handle it others can't. If you didn't except a
transfer then that meant you were content with your situation. Your
generation isn't the first to make that decision that's been going on
forever. It's called weathering the storm. Look at it another way,
you're not the only one in this situation those who are above and
below you in seniority are doing the same.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 June 2010

I was one of the unfortunate employees that hired on with a big hiring
spree.  i had to pay $5000 for a special railroad school, pay $1000 for
a hotel room for a month, pay $1000 for food and personal expenses. all
that not to mention lost wages for 2 months. after all was said and
done i was out 8-10k for a job that i thought was gonna be a career. 5
years and 3 furloughs later ive spent 3 quartes of my time with the
company being furloughed with no pay. the company offerd me transfers
but to very rough places that no one wants to work at.  i just wish i
would have known just exactly what i was getting into before hand. i
could have went to a real college for those last 5 years and got a
master's degree.  now im expected to know every rule when im out there
even though they do not want to give me proper training. i understand
that the rules are there for our safety; but to really learn all the
rules and be a fully capable employee, it would take atleast a year of
on the job training. something that the company wont do.  for anyone
that is interested in getting into a career in CSX, i encourage you to
think twice before going down that path. the promise of money is very
enticing but realize that the hours you work are horrible, your
training is horrible, your vacations are never when you want to take a
vacation, you have 5 bosses to answer to, when you go into work you
never know when your gonna come home. to me CSX seems like they are
consolidating jobs, downsizing from new technologies, closing down
yards. pretty soon all conductors will be cut out of the R.R. you have
no job security and if your yard closes your out of luck. i repeat for
anyone who is thinking of hiring on to CSX, save yourself the trouble
and dont.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 June 2010

Friend of CSX worker,

     My wife is pregnant as well and i will be damned if i turn off my
phone.  If i am at work when she calls i will tell her to call the YM
or Train Dispatcher (depending where i am working) one time.  If i dont
get a response in 5 minutes, my ass is off and gone.  They don't want
you to interferer with them making money and your outside life is at
the very bottom of the list of core values

Name: cjones
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 June 2010

There is noone to complain to about the shape of the engines, its the
management at the shops that wont let us fix the locomotives. If we
write it up they get someone else to look at it and sign it off or say
I didnt know what I was talking about. They are putting you and the
public at risk, running locomotives with bad wheels, oil leaks and fuel
leaks. I should know I work there, and have seen it. I have seen them do
92day work in the ready the field where it cant all be done, traction
motor grease goes unchecked. I asked an older guy which oil to put in
one of the newer EMD;s and he said he didnt know because he had never
done it, meaning he just signs off the work and sends it out the door.
They are suppose to be doing a complete air test on the unit when it
leaves the shop, and they dont. One of the older guys said hey did you
see that locomotive stop when they jogged it in here, its good no
reason to check the brakes. I was forced to do an air test and I didnt
know how to do it and they threatend to pull me out of service if I
didnt. They thought I wouldnt be able to find anything wrong. Well I
found a book with instructions and I found  60 pound main resivoir
leak, it dropped 20 pounds every three minutes. Boy were they pissed
that I found it, The air compressor was bad and it was blowing back
through causing the leak. Now what if I didnt find that  or they got
someone else to do it that didnt give a crap, someone could have got
killed when that compressor burnt up and it would have. I tried my best
to do my job and they didnt like so they stopped assigning as much work
to me. There is another guy I work with who will kill a unit if its not
right and he will write up so much stuff they cant outshop, but on the
other he doesnt mind fixing what he finds. He told me if your gonna
write it up you better be prepared to fix it because manangement will
try to punish you by making you do the work. Alot of people write up
things, thinking the next shift will take care of it, but for someone
kills two  out of three engines a day you have to be prepared to go the
distance and do the work to stick it to management. Managers get so mad
when they cant make a number(meaning outshop a unit)thats all they care
about, jacksonville watches the shop count and calls when they are not
getting units out.
Guys it is your job to take care of the locomotives, if everyone picks
up there trash and just puts it in a bag and dont destroy the cabs
because your pissed off at the company, turn that anger into inspecting
the locomotive prior to leaving, open those engine doors and look at the
fuel pumps on a GE make sure they arent leaking(fire hazard) look at the
wheels, you guys have been running engines long enough to know when a
wheel is out of spec. CSX doesnt care about you or the shape of the
locomotive all they want is money

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2010

Tank

All the class 1's are basically the same. It's the old adage "the
grass always seems greener on the otherside". BNSF on-property
contract isn't that much better than the one on CSX. The problem with
CSX locomotives is the distance between diesal shops is spread to thin.
Then when CSX came out a few years back with the BS of demanding road
and yard crews do their own cleaning it went beyond our job
descriptions. I remember being in a safety meeting stating my
objections to their demands that there was enough business to hire full
time laborers around the clock to work on locomotives I was quickly
chastised by management. Heck, CSX doesn't even provide brooms on
their engines if it was a pig stye when I boarded I'd just write it up
on the locomotive report. Some of our co-workers are the problem they
are pigs. I hated the bastards that left spit bottles on the console or
threw their garbage on the floor or stuffed it in between desk console
and wall. Then there were the whittlers who thought the arm rest was a
piece of wood to carve. We can't blame CSX on these fools.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 June 2010

the other day i had to pick up a few BNSF engines from one of our
sidings.  One thing i have noticed is every BNSF engines..regardless
off age is always in great condition and most of all CLEAN!!!!!. 
Attached a BNSF engine built in 2004 to one of our engines that was
built in 2008 and the BNSF engines was still in better condition.  Now
i know BN guy treat the engines like we do so i feel the reason our
engines are so horrible is because of our service centers not treating
them like they need.  Not only does the BN pay better, treat the
employees better, but they give them better equipment.  Only wish
location here was hiring.  WOW CSX really does SUCK.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 June 2010

hey concerned new hire,

    The NS does not have guarantee extra board, they will fire you a
hell of a lot quicker, and the yard job make less than CSX (if anyone
can believe that), also they don't have seniority districts which
means if it gets bad in other locations, they can come down here and
role your ass with the quickness.  We bitch about CSX but don't be
fooled...they all are the same.  Buy i have heard less bitching about
BNSF

Name: screw csx
E-mail: screwcsx@gofockyourself.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 May 2010

just wanted to say Happy Memorial Day to all Union brothers and sisters.
 As far as CSX goes, YEP, YOU STILL SUCK!!!  Enjoy and happy drinking!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 May 2010

It's Sunday May the 30th and Danny Spencer Jr. is still a low life
P.O.S.    Fuck you Danny, I hope you burn in hell.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 May 2010

Angie Smith vs. CSX case goes to court in Danville 0900 Tuesday June
1st. Anyone in the area may want to see this show. Come to the court
house and see all your favorite Characters....Frulla, Vierling,
Fleenor, Wes Knick, Randy Hall, Terry Schray and last but not least a
special guest appearance by no other than Gery Williams. Guaranteed to
have more dirt and scandal out in public than an Jerry Springer
episode.

Name: Todesengel
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 May 2010

NEW PRICK TRAINMASTER AT HAWTHORNE
  Anyone heard of Matt Sanders? He is from the east with 5 years with
CSX.He is a first class asshole.I've seen it all before;new sheriff in
town;thinks he is going change the world.blah blah blah.Keep up your
attitude Matty boy and you will receive the screwing of your life.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 May 2010

If a Company declares a dividend, they better be able to maintain it.
Although consistent dividend growth is a factor when evaluating whether
or not to invest in a stock, it would be far better if they never paid a
dividend than to cut the dividend. 

Regardless of sector or future prospects, cutting the dividend would be
a public admission by the management that they failed to do their jobs.
Consider Chrysler, GM and AT&T(old) and what the dividend cuts
did to their stock and public perception.

In the case of the class Is they implemented RCOs at an enormous
investment and cost in production...hoping the saving in labor would
off set the costs associated. Despite their best efforts they have yet
to achieve the savings they projected nor have they achieved the safety
improvements they expected.

PTC will be a dead expense for the carriers. They will not see any
saving in labor costs unless the FRA agreed to allowed them to cut crew
size. I don't believe that will happen in the foreseeable future nor
will they see any increase in production.

The carriers are crying like babies because they may be required to
make some hard decisions which would directly reflect poorly on mid 
and upper management. Additionally, with the regulators looking at the
carriers rate structure the may not be able to pass the costs on!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2010

Along with the stock dividends they can slash the productivity bonuses
for T&E. That'll even it out. That'll teach a lesson to the morons
who voted for such an idiotic contract. Actually that would work with
no pay raises for trainmen due till 2012. It wouldn't pay all of it
but it would be a good percentage.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 May 2010

Railroads have been bragging for years to each other about their
technology, so now the FRA says great, install the PTC.  Now the
corporate welfare whores are screaming about the cost. Hey, cut back on
the dividends for awhile to pay for it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 May 2010

It would appear as though Big Fish's #1 company scab is at it again.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 May 2010

Hey RRJ:

That's what is so puzzling...the stock is doing well as are most of
the benchmarks so why postpone it? I think the Investor's Day has been
an annual event...if that's the case, they cancelled it not postponed
it. May will be about Annual Meeting time...look for it to be held at
the facility.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2010

Nothing wrong with moving it back to correspond to opening a new
facility. As for bonuses they would have already been doled out by May
2011. Seeing it's NW Ohio I might just go up for the meeting while
I'm there visit some relatives. CSX stock like that of the other class
1's are doing fine right now. 

The FRA is feeling a lot of pressure over certian fast judgements they
made like enforcing PTC. Industries like the chemicals know that the
cost will be filtered down to them with rate hikes. The money has to
come from somewhere the railroads don't have billions of dollars to
waste. The real culprit is lack of training that should be enforced not
unneccessary technology forced on freight rails especially when it was a
commutter line that screwed up. The FRA should be doing the testing and
issuing engineer certification not the railroads. I witnessed the
railroad promote people to engineer that they shouldn't of that is a
tragidy waiting to happen. At least half these people have already had
major infractions like going by a stop signal. It's nice to be retired
and have a different perspective. lol

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 May 2010

Lets think why CSX would reschedule this 8 months later:

http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1432003&highlight=

It has nothing to do with the opening of this facility...it's all
about times might be better in May 2011 than Sept. 2010 and it's a lot
easier justifying raises and bonuses when times are good...some Dr.
Feelgood!

Name: Why bother? No one listens.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 May 2010

This was posted on another RR website last week:

OSHA fines CSX for action on employee who had safety concerns 
link:
http://blog.timesunion.com/business/osha-fines-csx-for-action-on-employee-who-had-safety-concerns/19862/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A mere slap on the wrist for a fortune 500 company to compensate a
family man who was out of work for nearly a year for doing the right
thing:

OSHA fines CSX for action on employee who had safety concerns - The
Buzz: Business news - Capital Region business, industry news -
timesunion.com - Albany NY

OSHA fines CSX for action on employee who had safety concerns

May 20, 2010 at 5:21 pm by Eric Anderson
CSX Transportation faces $5,000 in punitive damages it must pay an
employee after federal investigators say it took retaliatory action
against him for repeatedly reporting safety concerns to his managers,
the Federal Railroad Administration, and the U.S. Department of Labor’s
Occupational Safety and Health Administration.
The whistleblower investigation resulted after the worker filed a
complaint in 2009 with OSHA, saying he’d been disciplined by CSX in
December 2008 for reporting the safety concerns. In addition to the
punitive damages, CSX also must “expunge the worker’s personnel record
of any derogatory reference” and rescind the disciplinary action.

The employee wasn’t named, but worked in the railroad’s dispatch office
in Selkirk. CSX officials couldn’t be reached late Thursday for
comment.

“Retaliating against an employee who raises safety concerns is
completely unacceptable and will not be tolerated,” said Robert Kulick,
OSHA’s regional administrator in New York.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 May 2010

Quick...someone please close Angie's closet door...she's on the
loose!

CSX should have sent her to Lafayette with Danny and the boys!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 May 2010

This is a prime example of what's wrong with the agencies that regulate
the railroad industry...too little, too late!

    http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=51883

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 May 2010

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/profile.php?id=1848513815&v=wall

Hancocks fb

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/profile.php?id=1583504636

A. Averitte

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 May 2010

the fra were down in waycross about a week or 2 ago, i believe the head
carman was runoff after they found 700+ bad orders :(

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 May 2010

Carman in Selkirk NY,I am hearing that the FRA is camped out in Waycross
GA. What is going on, Is Matt Carson still employed?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 May 2010

It will only suck until Nov. or Dec. when you get furloughed.

Name: Concerned Hire
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 May 2010

just got hired by CSX, at first I was excited, but now not to sure after
reading some posts here. Got a buddy who works for Norfolk Southern and
likes it.  Is CSX really that bad?

Name: last call...
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 May 2010

Being a drunk is expected,tolerated,encouraged on Huntington Division.
Even several RFE have DUI. Dispatchers also come to work gooned up.
Conductors that are raging alcoholics are tipped off and mark off sick
the day of random testing. And how about Robert Brown at Clifton???Look
up drunk and belligerent...his pictures there....Danville trainmaster
you've found yourself a home...or should I say bar? No need to drink
alone anylonger

Name: Drinky the drunk guy
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 May 2010

Sounds like you have an alcoholic trainmaster in Danville WV.  In new
orleans they just had a trainmaster fail a breath test.  He had just
got out of rehab for drinking on the job and Angie Averitte was in NOLA
for a couple of days and tipped him off that the nurse was there to test
him.  He just did not come into work.  The next day they were back and
he showed up and the idiot failed the test.  This trainmaster, Joe
Rider also fired more people than anybody there....and he was caught
drinking on the job.  Think about that for a minute.  That whole
terminals officals are the biggest bunch of drunks on the railroad. 
Angie was over saftery for the Atl Division and could not even drive to
work because she had so many DUI's.

Name: worker
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 May 2010

worlking for CSX is like working for the NAZI's!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 May 2010

Danville, WV- We are not a very big terimanl.  We usually have one
trainsmaster on duty most of the time.  Then we have a trainmaster on
call.  When that trainmaster on call has to come to work for some
reason.  He doesn't show up druck, but he definetley been drinking. 
What do you do when this happens.  They need to random drug test on
their trainmaster who show up to work that have been drinking.

Name: Hey L & N trainman...
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 May 2010

Hey L & N trainman, that would not make sense since Nooga is L & N also.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 May 2010

With regard to the UTU's move UTU International President Mike Futhey
said, "This move is all about improving productivity and reducing
costs."

Does that mean you can expect a reduction in International's dues;)

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 May 2010

only been back for less than month after this wonderful company
furloughed me before i could complete training.  Anyways meet all the
train master at my yard the when i got back and all of them said unlike
what the old heads think we are not here to fire you we just want to
make sure your safe.  They went on about how they don't want to do all
the paper work involved in firing someone.  I believed what they said
for about a week.  That is when a job in my yard had a derailment
because two empty flat cars bunched up and derailed.  The same young
train master who told me we was here for us and not here to fire anyone
was so, so, so excited saying " i finally got me one, i have been
looking to fire someone"  These were the exact words from his mouth. 
Never have i seen someone so excited to put a working man on the street
without a care.  What was funny is the investigation proved the crew was
not at fault which made this train master looking even more like a
asshole.  
    If any traim master out there read this, don't fill young guys
like me heads full of shit about how you don't won't fire us. 
Because we all know yall are full of pure shit.

Name: L & N Trainman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 May 2010

have been hearing around my yard that since the L&N voted the new
agreement down and i do mean really voted it down that CSX is trying to
take jobs away from Nashville, Birmingham, and Louisville and give them
to Chattanoga (can't spell it) as some sort of punishment for the NO
vote.  Anyone else heard of this and if so what is going on?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 May 2010

The UNION is at work FOE YOU as you sleep, Trying every angle to get you
a better contract, fewer hours and Mo Money.

Now pump up that Monthly deduct from YOUR CHECK to make it happen.
The bros in Cleveland(?) are depending on YA. Heck fire they are moving
and need a new bunch of stuff.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

It was not made clear to those of us out here that it could be
implemented on individual properties either, but I do acknolage that we
maybe should we have looked a little harder at the alternative. I was
for this agreement because I had enough confidence in those that
presented it to believe that they knew what they were talking about.
They didn't disclose all the information clearly, but they were right
in telling us it was better than the alternative. Ever since I hired on
the railroad in 2006 my job has seemed to be teetering on the edge, now
their trying to jack around with our seniority. This constant
uncertainty is killing me and I'm hoping this will finally be a means
to an end.

Name: Listen to Me
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

For fucks sake, the "zoning" or wtf ever you want to call it was in
the SSA!  It was going to happen without a doubt if you voted for the
contract.  This way we still have a chance at arbitration.  Course of
the SOB's on the SCL had of voted it down it would be off the table
all together!

If anyone is to blame in all of this it is GC Hancock.  Actually all of
the GC's are to blame to an extent but mostly Hancock.  The justice
department needs to look into this thing because he had to of been
bought.

Name: C&O Bob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

Joe,

  Just a little bit ago you wanted to bash two specific LC's out of
Russell, Ky.  Now you say you dont know them, There is exactly the
problem if you know them then the first thing you would know is they
never told anyone how to vote or gave them any false information.  I
know both extremely well, The biggest problem is what others have said
in this list is that No one knew that they were going to force this
contract down our throats if we voted this down. And also that if one
certain Proper passed they would get the contract and then we would be
forced into a coordination with them.  I personally asked Jim townsend
at the town hall in front of everyone in Russell,Ky if it was voted
down on one proper that it failed on all others, and from other
information provided so did Some other General Officers. I was told
there that the vote was never going to pass on the L&N and therefore we
would not have the agreement on the C&O.  I think that there has been a
lot of confusion along with the fact that obviously certain people have
not told us the whole story.  I think it is imperative that based on all
this information we did not have enuff information to vote on this
contract, simply put if we knew we were going to get it crammed down
our throat and possible loss of zoning and seniority the vote would
have went differently. Now there are two ways I look at this, We can
all work together to fight this situation OR we can all lose everything
we have as we know it. Up to you but I'm ready for the fight!

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

Not sure I follow everything your saying. It's not exactly a secret how
or why this agreement was voted down on the C&O. I think your
assumptions may be a little off. I'm not in a position of any
authority, nor am I in a postion to know if these LC are good or bad,
but I do know that in this case they put their money on the wrong horse
and without some sort of alternative action we're all going to pay the
price. Since you seem to be such an authority on the issue, what do we
do know? Maybe you can give us some insight as to how we're better off
going through the coordination process than we would have been with the
agreement? I find it hard to believe that 2 of the best LC in all the
land have led us to this. What are they saying now? Do they feel they
made the right choice? Or are they like all the other men worrying
wether or not they'll have a job because of the shit they've pulled?

Name: C&O BOB
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

Hey C&O Joe;

   Well it's kinda funny how you act but your one of the first people
to sell out the Brothers and Sisters on the C&O and since your one of
the few that must be priviliged on how what local voted how, You could
be only one of a couple of people. Very Intelligent; I happen to be one
that voted yes, but I couldnt Tell you how much your arrogance and trash
talking to other C&O members make you look STUPID! Bad mouthing members
in email's now bad mouthing two of the better local chairman in the
whole C&O poor decision just because you think we want one of them in
office! I want anyone in office other than you and some other
individual which sold us out LONG AGO!  You want to bad mouth the
members of the C&O. You've never fought for what truly matters and
your cowardness shows in your post, Oh btw there might actually be one
good thing out of this whole problem with this contract, Get rid of
people like YOU!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

To  memememe

sounds like they are trying to FIRE you!!!

They show they give you chances to pass and you fail


you better be sure to pass next time down there 


why the heck would you fall

Name: CO Joe=Dumbass
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

Joe, you are the type of stupid imbecile the company was counting on to
not even read the SSA that just got voted down.  Now the C and O has a
fighting chance for at least some type of New York Dock protection, if
the C and O had of voted for the SSA that would not been the case.  It
spelled out in there what they were going to do with all the terminals
in the southern region.

Name: me,me,me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

i was at the redi center taking the refresher course and i came off the
ladder.... and i have to go back in 28 days to do this again does
anyone have any advice to help me to train and to pass this once
more??? thanks in advance to all that helped

Name: LMAO!
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

Thanks for the link to Marcus Calhoun McCants facebook page.  NOMO son
is friends with him!   LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: jsmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

These contracts get passed because the Union is in bed with the RR, I
wish we could get rid of these Unions and start are own. We would be
better off being represented by our own people and just hope they dont
get greedy and get bought by the RR.

On another note, Please check your wheels on your locomotives before
departing. I work at a engine house and know through other people that
wheel reports have been doctored, meaning changed to look like they are
good just so they can outshop the unit. If you dont know how to gage
wheels go on the Domino site on the gateway and read the Safe Job
procedure or SMR and I am sure you can get a wheel gage from someone at
a shop. If you wanna stick it to CSX look at your wheels on every unit
in the consist. I have changed all the traction motors on unit because
it derailed. That unit had no buisness being on the rail. I wish I had
thought to write down the unit number but I didnt. Please check your
wheels, supervisors will run units with bad wheels. I found some bad
wheels oneday and the supervisor wouldnt have them cut and said the
unit didnt come in the shop for that so we are not cutting them or
replacing them. I had a supervisor want me to read a wheel with a hand
gage because the electronic gage said it was out of spec. He was trying
to get me to say the wheel was okay and I wouldnt do it. On another
ocassion I was told to go and qualify some bolster pads and if I didnt
pass them he was. Needless to say I didnt qualify them and they dont
ask me to do much anymore because they know I wont sign it off to go
back on the road unless its right. Alot of the othe rmachinist will do
things for them such as sign off on stuff that aint fixed or hasnt been
fixed. I have thought about going to the News and newspaper and squeal
like a pig on there safety practices, things that I have seen and seen
done by others.

Its hard to stop this kind of thing and get someone important to take
notice and do something about it. All this lobbying by CSX is one
problem, who is gonna step on there toes when there pockets are getting
padded.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 May 2010

Something stinks on this vote. The members of general committees who
voted it down CSX stated they wouldn't accept their resorting back to
the national contract. Isn't that against the Railway Labor Act?
Spliting up the railroad with separate contracts after a vote is
unheard of it's never been done before. Even the BLE SSA when the
former Conrail properties decided to not participate they were just
excluded nothing was forced upon them seeing they didn't have a vote
like this bullschidt. We have in the past worked under agreements from
the former railroads but base pay issues were universal. Hopefully a
mediator can make sense of this nonsense. If CSX is pushing hard for it
one must know it's not in the workers best interest. That sends up red
flags. Compare it to red and blue states in a national presidential
election would it allow dividing up the country? I think we dealt with
this during the Civil War. This is no different two general committees
membership voted against it, one voted for it, another was a tie seems
to me it failed to pass. That isn't the stance the UTU is taking their
not accepting the vote just like CSX.

Name: vick
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 May 2010

I work in Jax as a yard foreman, and every member I spoke with here was
against the SSA, just as was the vast majority of engineers when their
SSA was on the table. Yet the SCL passed it.

Something fishy is going on, and we need someone familiar with the
bi-laws to figure out how these "agreements" are getting
"ratified", and what if anything we can do to confirm any corruption
or fraud.

It is my understanding from the U.T.U. article, that the agreement will
be implemented on the former SCL territory as soon as possible.
Shouldn't that require an additional vote? Since it would no longer be
a single system agreement, and former SCL employees may not recieve a
contract on par with the other systems.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 May 2010

Hey Joe:

If you can't return to national handling without the CSX's
permission
then the membership was sold a bill of goods by the four GC...of course
ignorance is no excuse and the membership really has no one to blame but
themselves.

If it is CSX's intention to coordinate, then they shouldn't really
have a problem with letting GOs 201 and 513 return. In fact it would be
a shrewd move...look like a good guy while driving another nail into the
union's coffin.

If the membership was intentionally lied to or misled there is legal
recourse. If the four GC and CSX conspired in anyway there has probably
been a violation of the R.I.C.O statues which is extremely serious
criminal offense. As I stated in an earlier, talk to the US Attorney,
they will be able to advise and perhaps help you.

I would certainly call the Department of Labor, Office of
Labor-Management Standards to see about filing a complaint. At this
point
there is nothing to lose. 

It will take several members to take the lead on this...don't expect
any help from the membership, the GCoA or International. Remember, shit
rolls downhill...and those at the forefront are at the bottom of the
hill.

If a fight can't be mustered, I would consider encouraging everyone
to make a statement and jump to the BLEt...not that they are any
better, just different.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 May 2010

Then the blame is not with CSX but with the 4 general committes that
allowed such a proposed agreement to be so retrictive. That isn't the
way the BLE SSA was in 2007 & 2010 if it had been voted down we
automatically resorted back to the national contract negotiations. In
fact if the BLE SSA extention in 2010 had been voted down on Jan 1st
2010 engineers would of recieved a 14 1/2% pay increase from the 2007
national contract and resorted back to national negotiations. This
sounds like a cram it down the throat deal. From all I've read about
Hancock it isn't surprising. I've personally known Jimmy Townsen
since 1980 back when we were hostling engines in a roundhouse. It's a
case of people being in office to long they have forgotten where they
came from. The BLET isn't much different in that regards. All one has
to do is look at past history when a general chairmen is voted out they
join the other side and get a job in labor relations.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 May 2010

Nomo, 

      We cannot return to national handling without the carriers
approval. This is one thing that I do not think was made as clear to
the membership as it should have been. There is a great deal of
precident for coordination notices served under New York Dock Section
4. Past coordinations have ravaged the former C&O over the years. We
used to run from Newport News to Chicago and the great lakes. Since the
mid 1970's our territory has been cut in half. Page 110 of the C&O Road
Agreement dated January 1, 1974 is a list of terminal switching limits.
Every terminal on that page has been swallowed by the B&O. Ask anyone
who has had they're territory coordinated into another road and every
one of them will tell you they got a big fat railroad dick stuck in
their 2 hole. This agreement passed in every local on the C&O except 2
at Russell, KY. 2 inexperianced LC roused their members by telling flat
out lies and only telling part of the story. Now that everyone has begun
to figure this out they're crying foul and claiming they were misled
themselves. As a result of their shady, politically motivated,
bullshit, the C&O is on death row. These 2 retarded LC have less than
10 years seniority between them and less than 5 years union experiance.
They bet it all that the coordination talk was a scare tactic only to
find that their underhanded bullshit has left the jobs of many of their
members teetering on the edge. 7 of 9 locals passed the CSA, and about
60% of the no votes came from the locals of these 2 morons. Had their
members been better informed and not lied to, this thing would have
passed by a large margin. They though it would pass and every time
someone got pissed off about something that happened as a result they
could fall back on being the cheif opponets of it. They felt this would
boost their chances in next years Gen. Committee elections. Now they see
that even if they win the hand, there probably won't be anything in the
pot.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 May 2010

Hey APE 1-10:

Arbitration...consolidation...that was CSX's intention all along, they
thought the vote was a done deal...they were wrong. Now they have to go
through the regulators, which is easier said than done.
Just because a matter is arbitrated does not necessarily mean the
Carrier will prevail.

Although there is some precedent for what CSX is trying to do, they
still have to prove necessity. Again not easy.

I found the following that might illustrate some of the issues that
will have to be dealt with and proven by CSX.

          http://www.blet602.org/Documents/ny_dock_euma.pdf

If the UTU doesn't vigorously contest this, then they need to be
decertified.

I'll be the first one to say that CSX needs to streamline their
operations, including the labor agreements. There are however better
way to do it than lording over your employees making demands.

I guess old habits die hard!

Name: Hey NOMO and anyone else
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 May 2010

Here we go.  Aribitration is around the corner and an agreement that
only was voted in favor of on one property by about 50 votes will be
crammed down our throats.  If anyone is still in the utu after this,
well fuck you!

Writer’s Direct Contact Information:
Phone: (904) 359-3524
Myron W. Becker Fax: (904) 359-4815
Director-Labor Relations E-Mail: Myron_Becker@csx.com
May 6, 2010
File No: 4-037-09


Mr. J. C. Hancock, General Chairman United Transportation Union - Suite
104
3560 Cardinal Point Drive
Jacksonville, FL 32257
Mr. J. R. Townsend, General Chairman
United Transportation Union
1319 Chestnut Street
Kenova, West Virginia 25530
Mr. R. A. Pullen, General Chairman
United Transportation Union
1244 Cole Creek Road
Dallas, Georgia 30157
Mr. J. R. Willis, General Chairman
United Transportation Union
3560 Cardinal Point Drive – Suite 103
Jacksonville, FL 32257




Gentlemen:
We have been officially advised by each of you of the outcome of the
ratification results for the Consolidated Southern Region Agreement
CSXT Labor Agreement No. 4-037-09 undertaken by your respective offices
in accordance with Articles 80 and 85 of the UTU Constitution, with the
following results:


General Chairman Hancock, former SCL - Ratified in favor
General Chairman Pullen, former A&WP - Requested a re-vote
General Chairman Townsend, former C&O - Results were against
General Chairman Willis - Results were against

This will confirm that CSXT will implement the Consolidated Southern
Region Agreement CSXT Labor Agreement No. 4-037-09 which ratified on
the former SCL property as soon as the parties are available to sign
the Agreement and discuss implementation timelines.
May 6, 2010
File No: 4-037-09
The Company has also been advised that General Chairman Pullen has
requested additional time to re-vote his membership on the former A&WP
property due to a tie vote in one of the crafts. This will confirm that
CSXT is agreeable to provide General Chairman Pullen additional time to
re-vote his membership subject to CSXT being advised of the outcome by
close of business May 28, 2010.

Among other things, the Consolidated Southern Region Agreement would
have removed impediments in existing agreements that prevent CSXT from
fully realizing efficiencies from the common control of SCL, L&N, A&WP
and C&O. For example, CSXT would have been able to operate trains
between terminals without a crew change, even though the terminals are
on different properties. CSXT still needs to obtain these kinds of
efficiencies.
Following conclusion of the re-vote at A&WP, and absent a mutual
agreement to handle the matter differently, CSXT will be serving a New
York Dock Coordination Notice pursuant to Section 4 of the New York
Dock provisions on or about June 1, 2010 to appropriately restructure
and coordinate certain train operations on the former A&WP, former C&O,
former L&N, former NC&StL and the former SCL to realize the merger
related operating efficiencies that continue to be impeded by existing
agreements.




Myron W. Becker,
Director Labor Relations
Southern Region Operations



Cc: Steve Crable, VP Labor Relations
Mike Pendergrass, VP Southern Region
David Ingoldsby, AVP Labor Relations
Bob Frulla, Division Manager
David Hamby, Division Manager
Don Jones, Division Manager
Mark Mayo, Division Manager
Jermaine Swafford, Division Manger
David Hoffman, Law
Jim Mosley, Labor Relations
John Thompson, Labor Relations

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2010

Railroad Conductor Neck Injury and Surgery from a Motor Vehicle
Accident
COURT/DATE: Jacksonville, FL (Duval County State Court)/October 2005
HSCL STAFF: Richard N. Shapiro, attorney; Donald Case, Charles
Cunningham, investigators; Jackie Tilton, paralegal; Blair Gray, legal
assistant WHAT HAPPENED: R.D. was a conductor with over twenty years of
experience who was being transported in a taxi operated by Defendant PTI
(Professional Transportation, Inc.) when he was injured when the van
crashed during March 2004. R.D. was seated in the third van row behind
the driver and was sleeping. The PTI van operator fell asleep at the
wheel, and the van smashed into the trailer portion of a vehicle being
operated by a truck. The van went off the road as did the truck and
both suffered substantial damages. R.D. was transported from the scene
by rescue squad. Medical testing revealed that R.D. had a fracture of
his neck which required delicate cervical/neck surgery. After
considerable rehabilitation, R.D. underwent functional capacity testing
which indicted he could function at light to medium physical work
levels, which medically disqualified him from his job duties with CSX
railroad. R.D. was earning just over $50,000 per year annual wages.
Given that R.D. was 50 years old, he was not able to find a new job but
instead entered the local community college to try to re-train. HSCL
STRATEGY: Counsel carefully reviewed the federal motor carrier safety
regulations relating to the operation of this passenger van operated by
PTI. It appeared that there were multiple federal regulatory violations
because the van driver was called in for a second shift after working
all night. It appears that the driver, and the company, violated
multiple federal regulations by requiring excessive hours of operation
from the driver. Also, if this was a knowing violation of federal
regulations, Florida law may have allowed plaintiff to amend his
complaint and assert punitive damages. The attorney representing PTI
and the railroad argued that R.D. must not have been wearing his
seatbelt although R.D. claimed he was. There was no clear evidence that
R.D. failed to wear his seatbelt. HSCL agreed to early mediation of the
case after filing suit, and threatened to assert punitive damages if
the case could not be resolved voluntarily. However, during October
2005, the case was settled with mediator Michael Burnett, with all the
financial details of the settlement being confidential.
Awarded: Confidential Settlement Satisfactory to Client.

Name: Danny Lash
E-mail: Tobykieth@yahoo.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 May 2010

Baltimore terminal sucks ass!!!!

Name: Just a Post for others to read
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2010

Metra Executive Director Commits Suicide

Postby byte » Fri May 07, 2010 12:15 pm
I have a feeling this will escalate to something rather large, which is
why I'm making a thread for it rather than putting it in the news
thread.

In case you've been under a rock for the past week, Phil Pagano,
Metra's executive director since 1990, had been placed under criminal
investigation for allegedly siphoning off an extra $56,000 into his
salary:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/05/criminal-probe-of-metra-finances-launched.html

This morning, he was found dead:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/05/metra-chief-dies-after-being-struck-by-train.html

(Edit: just noticed that the above address implies that he was hit by a
train?! Seems likely that this is the cause of the "pedestrian
incident" affecting the UP-NW)


Details are really too sparse right now to allow for an educated,
non-speculative discussion, but all signs point to Metra soon having a
management shakeup which will be 9-something on the Richter scale.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2010

Here is the press release CSX made on 01/29/10 concerning the CSX/UTU
SSA:

http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1380858&highlight=

Here is the post from the UTU website made concerning the same on
04/06/10:

http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=51380

To me it reads like it was a done deal before the ballots were mailed!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2010

The preceding article from the UTU website is pure posturing.

It took the UTU a week to post the results...something they would
rather not done but have apparently been forced to by the membership.

It says the election was handled in accordance with the UTU
Constitution...it also distances International from GOs 201, 513, 851 &
025 and states that GOs 201 & 513 can return to national handling,
should they so choose. It furthermore places the blame squarely on CSX
as they want an agreement specific to the "issues and circumstances
unique to CSX southern lines." I wonder what 
issues and circumstances are any different down south than those up
north?

In any event if GO 201 and 513 don't return to national handling,
Townsend (201) and Willis (513) need to be charged!

With regard to the A&WP I didn't realize there was a difference
between conductors and trainmen...live and learn. Seems dubious at
best.

On the SCL the outcome was to be expected. What was unexpected to me
was the margin was only 54 votes, which looks almost legitimate.
However, considering Hancock's reputation, it looks a little too
legitimate!

If CSX chooses to coordinate a single agreement rail operation that
will combine agreements...it will take years to push through the
regulators before any legal challenges. If the UTU allows this to
happen without challenging it in court, then indeed they are dead.

This entire event reeks of Porgy...where there's smoke, there's
fire.
I'm not sure I wouldn't make an appointment with the US Attorney to
see if I didn't have cause to file a complaint...everyone of them is
guilty of something!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2010

Here's the turpentine and corn cob...now grab your ankles!



CSX southern lines pact: Mixed result
 
A tentative five-year wage, rules and working conditions agreement
between four UTU general committees of adjustment and CSX southern
lines has been ratified by members of the largest general committee,
defeated by members of two other committees, and will be re-voted on a
fourth owing to an initial tie vote.

The agreement ratification process followed provisions of the UTU
Constitution, guaranteeing each craft have a separate vote and that
agreements are ratified only if a majority of each craft voting casts
"yes" ballots. Members on all properties voted in the craft on which
they worked on the day ballots were mailed.

A majority of votes cast by all crafts on the former Seaboard Coast
Line (SCL) ratified the agreement with respect to that general
committee.

On the former Chesapeake & Ohio (C&O), the tentative agreement was
ratified by all crafts except conductors, and thus was defeated under
the UTU’s craft autonomy guarantee.

On the former Atlanta & West Point (A&WP), conductors ratified the
agreement, but the trainmen vote was a tie, thus the agreement will be
resubmitted to both conductors and trainmen for a new vote.

On the former Louisville & Nashville (L&N, which includes Nashville,
Chattanooga & St. Louis), the tentative agreement was rejected by all
crafts.

The vote was on an agreement negotiated outside national handling, with
approval of the UTU Association of General Chairpersons, District 1, and
the National Carriers Conference Committee. 

The agreement dealt specifically with issues and circumstances unique
to CSX southern lines and was negotiated jointly by four CSX southern
lines general chaiarpersons -- John Hancock (GO 851, SCL), Randy Pullen
(GO 025, A&WP), Jim Townsend (GO 201, C&O), and J.R. "Johnny" Willis
(GO 513, L&N). 

The ratified agreement affecting employees of the former SCL will now
be signed and implemented.

Details of re-voting on former Atlanta & West Point are being worked
out and members will be informed regarding new ballots. 

As for the former C&O and L&N properties, a decision must be made by
the general committees whether to return to national handling. However,
CSX has indicated it will not deal with southern lines properties in
national handling, but wants a specific southern lines agreement.

CSX has advised, under authority from the Surface Transportation Board
dating to creation of CSX, that it intends to coordinate a single
agreement rail operation that will combine agreements on the former C&O
and former L&N properties. How that CSX coordination notice will be
worded is currently unknown, and it likely will play out in proceedings
before the federal regulatory agency.

As for CSX northern lines general chairpersons, they have remained in
national handling, and are additionally involved in separate
negotiations seeking settlement of a Dec. 2, 2009, notice served upon
them by CSX regarding coordination of their territories.  Both of these
negotiations continue.   [NOTE: This corrects a previously published
version of this paragraph.] 

As a historical note, when CSX and NS acquired Conrail, CSX served
coordination notices that put the former Conrail and the former
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac (RF&P) properties under the former
Baltimore & Ohio agreement, with the Conrail and RF&P agreements
disappearing. Also, CSX, through a coordination agreement, previously
wiped out the former Western Maryland property agreement, which was
upheld in arbitration.

To stay informed, log on regularly to www.utu.org and sign up for
e-mail alerts on the home page.
 
May 6, 2010

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 May 2010

The news I heard yesterday was SCL's John Hancock hand job on CSX is
going to force this agreement even if it was voted down. Those UTU
committees that voted it down would be severely penalized. If this is
true and it happens and the UTU international doesn't allow a strike
then their finished as a union. The basic principles have been
breached. If they can no longer secure a decent contract or willing to
go the distance after the majority of voting members rejected the offer
then it's over. I just read the UTU website it doesn't look good. CSX
wants to enforce work rule changes on those committees that voted it
down but allow pay issues to be handled by the national. A lot of
double talk from the UTU. It doesn't look good. Look for a giant leap
of members to join the BLE&T. Do I hear the death toll bells for the
UTU?

NoMo and I were under the impression that like the 2007 BLE/CSX SSA if
it was rejected it would resort back to the national negotiations.

Name: Good God NOMO STFU
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2010

Also where did you get that we would go back to national handling?  That
is not automatic like you are making it sound.  The N & D condutors have
already had notice served that they are out and will be excercising
their seniority and CSX is trying to offer them some money instead of
New York Dock protection.  

We are basically at the mercy of CSX and while wage increases might
come from national handling it might go back to the table on property,
they might cram the agreement down our throats anyway, they might ask
for it to go to arbitration.  

Get a clue.

Name: Good God NOMO STFU
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2010

Once again NOMO what the eff are you talking about?  The only thing the
international had to do with this thing was printing an article about
it in the news letter.  Of course it was pro UTU.  This whole thing was
basically to keep the four general comittees in place, as now we are
going to have one.

No idea what you are talking about with conrail all those years ago or
what that has to do with the notice that was served on the B & O and
Conrail thus combining those general comittees also.  

Do you just type shit hoping it makes sense? 

Know your role and shut your piehole.


and to the poster before NOMO there is no where near 7500 conductors on
the L & N, A & WP, SCL and C & O.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 May 2010

Hey APE 1-10:

Nowhere did I say International had any thing do do with negotiating
the UTU SSA. What I did say was International was fully aware of and
tacitly approved of what District One was doing. In fact there was even
a article posted on the website about the agreement. The UTU has enough
problems with credibility without supporting a losing cause...had this
agreement passed you can bet your ass the election results would have
been plastered all over the UTU and CSX websites.

The old adage about hanging together holds true here. The four Chairmen
of the Apocalypse will all hang apart...they will get no more support
from International on this.

The dynamics up north with Conrail were substantially different than in
the south. You can overlay the CSX and NS systems and they are almost
the same. Up north overlay Conrail and you get three of a kind. It is
not unreasonable that unnecessary assets be sold or closed. Although
there may be yards in District One that are unneeded, there is nowhere
the number there was up north. In fact
I think over the last couple of years several yards have either been
closed or down graded...Pensacola comes to mind.

Now that the SSA has failed...District One reverts back to National
handling.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 May 2010

If those numbers are correct then 2071 trainmen voted? That's not even
30% who took the time to cast a postage paid ballot on the most
important issue they faced. That's just pure laziness. Just keep on
working paying into Railroad Retirement my checks are deposited every
first of the month. At this rate this new breed will have class 1's
paying $10 an hour within a decade. They cry over how schitty the
unions are but they don't participate. In this case the ballot came in
the mail. CSX definitely looks at this wether it was voted down or
passed they know by the numbers within a decade the new breed will let
the unions disintegrate. Good time to be retired.

Name: Good God Nomo STFU
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 May 2010

Nomo, the UTU sucks but get a clue about what you are talking about. 
The UTU international had nothing to do with negotiating this
agreement. The General Chairpersons withdrew from National Handling via
the District One Chairman's Association and John C Hancock of the SCL
was the ring leader.

Yeah it failed, 65 for 774 against on the L & N, 97 for and 155 against
on the C & O, 431 for and 377 against on the SCL and John C Hancock, the
ring leader in this things home territory.  The vote was 16 for 16
against on the A & WP but Hancock was caught trying to change votes so
it failed there also.

Next we will be served notice of which of the four agreements CSX will
use a New York dock section 4 cram down on us.  Either L & N (Ha!) A &
WP (no fucking way) C & O (maybe) or SCL (most likely as a reward to
Hancock).  We will find out what terminals they are trying to close
like they did up north when they got a cram down but we will get some
kind of New York dock protection but no prior rights when they combine
the seniority rosters.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 May 2010

Ward had to give them something positive to focus on since the recent
UTU SSA election result wasn't!

http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1422829&highlight=

Name: me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 May 2010

when does the montgomery a.w.p get paid next? and do they paid every
week or every two weeks? getting transferd there and would like to know
so i can see when and how to pay my bills ....thanks in advance....and
what is the conductor gurantee pay ??

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 May 2010

If you got furloughed recently then you weren't very bright not to have
realised those outside schools were a waste of time. CSX quit using
those schools like AMDG at least 4-5 years ago just like the UP & BNSF
quit using a school called NARS. But some people continue to waste
their time and money then want to complain about it. These BS schools
doesn't give anyone an edge over being hired more than a person off
the street. Besides you made the choice to sign up and pay the tuition.
Is the UP hiring? They still have more people furloughed than CSX. The
few jobs that have been posted for BNSF, CN ect...are getting up to
1400 applications per job. Try Amtrak I see more openings for Asst
Conductor positions opening up. One thing those schools most likely
never mentioned/taught was furloughs which at times during a persons
early carreer can be frequent. That should be considered fraud
especially if they bragged that you would be making
$50,000-$75,000-$100,000 a year. Interesting show on PBS last night on
"Frontline" about "for-profit schools" that the recruiters pump a
person up and gaurentee you'll be the best most qualified and
corporations will roll out the red carpet with those so-called degrees.
Take your lumps wait it out or move on. No easy answers.

Name: Jay
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 May 2010

Sure come on out, pay close to $10,000 to go to school and learn how to
be a trainmen/ conductor. Go to work for about 6mos and be lied to by
division manager "TOM WOLFFE" about being laid off, before getting
laid off for at least 6 mos. Than, Praise the frickin lord I get called
back to work, only for about 6 months before getting laid off again. I
can understand the downfall of our economy and getting laid off. But I
cannot tolerate being lied to. If a warning would have come out, Plans
could have been made instead of oh shit, now what do I do..... By the
way any one know how to access there stock? The worst organized and
least employee friendly company, relying fellow railroaders to square
you away.... Is UP hiring?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 May 2010

Tuesday May 4,02010 @ 0807...the CSX/UTU SSA is MIA...nothing on the UTU
website, nothing on the CSX website.

Anything positive would have made the front page...in this case no news
may be good news. The fact that neither the UTU or CSX has said anything
leads me to believe they're in shock. It's a matter of damage control
now for the UTU and to a lesser degree CSX...and they (their lawyers)
will take some time to reevaluate the situation.

I think this CSX/UTU SSA is dead on arrival and resuscitation is not an
option, not that they won't think about it. The UTU (International) has
too much to lose if they continue to back this unpopular agreement
proposed by 4 GC...they will cut their loses at the the 4 GC expense!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 May 2010

To CSX Blow,
The CSX manager and the BLE&T LC may be the best of friends. Maybe they
grew up close, or went to school in the same area, who know's what the
connection really is. I see the relationship as a step in the right
direction.

 Off the property they become somewhat equal, in expressing their
feelings. Who knows maybe they can work together, and really address
some concerns from both sides. Anytime a union person can get the
undivided attention of a manager, With no audience over a couple of
beers who knows what will happen.

It could be very dangerous for the LC, and the Manager. Same old deal
Risk VS Reward.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 May 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

McCant is the Division RFE for Atlanta...prior to that he was in Albany
or Selkirk. They didn't think too much of him up there and I don't
think they care all that much for him down here.

Look for his next move to be Jacksonville...I think he's a project!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 May 2010

CSX Blows

I think you have the wrong interpitation of fratinizing. Most companies
have such a rule it only pertains to sex. It might be unethical for the
LC and a TM to be friends but it's not against any corporate rule. If
your BLE(T) division have problems with this then they need to be
addressed at the union meeting. I would consider this a problem if
it's true instead of just shanty rumors. The LC can be asked to step
down or be voted out by the members. The VLC will temporarily take over
the responsibilities till another election for LC can take place. An
emergency election for a new LC must take place if there is more than 6
months left in the term of office which elections just took place last
November. Before making an arse out of ones self they better have their
facts straight. Gossip mongers have excisted on the railroads forever
rule of thumb take everything with a grain of salt till it's proven.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 May 2010

Does anyone know if this McCant guy or whoever he is, has sex with his
rule book?  This man was a real piece of work and needs to get a life
instead of pointing out the most minor of things wrong.  I see now that
management only points out what is wrong instead of pats on the back. 
Good greif this asshole is a real piece of shit

Name: CSX Blow
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 May 2010

JSmith: Im not supprised at these statements you make! CSX Management
sucks. The new management they have has the IQ of nomore than a chesse
burger. 
 One of the managers in transportation came from Waycross to Pensacola
Florida and he is a snake in the grass. He, and the BLE&T local
chairman go on vacation together and visit over at each others houses.
I belive that is against CSX code of ethics. Company officials are not
to fratinize with union empoyees ESPECIALLY the dang local
chairman...LOL..He is supposed to be working for me because afterall
that's why I pay him almost 130$ a month. The money this company could
make is endless if they employees could come to work and do their jobs
without having to look over their shoulders and not worry about getting
fired for the simple things in life.

 CREW MANAGEMENT: You guys need to work on your phone manners! You have
the worst manners out of anyone on this whole railroad. I've talked to
bill collectors who have better phone mannerisims than you people. Its
just common courtisy! If you don't want to be there then go find
another job. There are others out there who would love to have your
jobs. Just because the previous person you talked to was rude to you
does'nt mean you have to have a piss poor attitude the rest of the
night. In these economic times there would be a line around the
building for your position so you people need to get a grip on reality
and grow up!

Name: Be happy in your work
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 May 2010

Did you know that=== Todd Novak ===is planing to come back to work , at
collinwood yard . this skum bag was the BLE treasurer in cleveland ,and
was convited for stealing money from his brothers and union people . He
stated all he was doing was using for a while and planed to pay it back
. sounds like every other embeleser , i would like to see what union
local is going to take him back ?????   do not let ====Todd Novak===
back !!!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 May 2010

Sandy, can you be more specific?

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Name: Sandy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 April 2010

This is a very serious state of affairs. Isn't anyone overseeing what
is going on in the Selkirk area?

Name: Nazi Hunter
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 May 2010

Very interesting article that might change Nazi Safety Programs 


April 29, 2010
Massey offering each family $3M, miner's daughter says
The daughter of one of 29 men killed in a West Virginia coal mine
explosion says owner Massey Energy is offering each family a $3 million
settlement.
By The Associated Press
Advertiser

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Massey Energy is offering $3 million to each of
the families of 29 men killed in an explosion at its Upper Big Branch
coal mine in West Virginia, the daughter of one of the victims said
Thursday.

The offer came a week earlier when Massey officials visited the family,
said Michelle McKinney, daughter of Benny Ray Willingham. McKinney said
other families have received the same offer.

Massey did not immediately respond to calls seeking comment.

The widow of William Griffith has already filed a wrongful death
lawsuit, while the mother of Adam Morgan has won a court order
preserving relevant records and potential evidence from the disaster.
The April 5 explosion -- the nation's worst coal mining disaster in 40
years -- also has prompted legal action by several current and former
shareholders.

McKinney isn't interested in settling.

"Nope,'' she said. "My dad didn't have a price tag on him. Don
Blankenship don't have enough money to pay me.''

Massey CEO Blankenship is among the highest paid executives in the coal
industry. McKinney said she would like to take every penny he has.

"Maybe it'll save somebody else's life,'' she said.

On Monday, Richmond, Va.-based Massey laid out a financial package that
it said would free the families from ever worrying about money.

Among other things, Massey said families would receive five times the
miner's annual pay as life insurance benefits and an additional
payment to surviving spouses. The offer also would include health
coverage both for surviving spouses and dependent children, and four
years' worth of college or vocational education at any accredited
school in West Virginia for those children.

Director Robert 'Doc' Foglesong said accepting those benefits would
not prevent a family from pursuing any legal claims.

Federal and state investigators suspect the explosion was caused by a
combination of methane gas and combustible coal dust. Toxic gases have
kept them from entering the mine. Officials say tests showing the
presence of acetylene and ethylene, gases not normally found in an
underground work environment, suggest a fire may be burning somewhere.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 April 2010

New Solution to unsafe workplaces.   

http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southeast/2010/04/19/109096.htm



CSX can throw the young and dumb management to the wolves.

WRONG!!!!!!!

Shareholders will be looking at Safety in a different way.


http://www.internationalresourcejournal.com/resource_news/massey_board_faces_lawsuit_from_shareholders.html


Looks like a Great New Game Plan

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 April 2010

Hey RRJ:

Thanks...that explains it. I probably knew that but forgot.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 April 2010

NoMo

It's based on 4 General Committees those on Conrail in the Northeast
corridor in NY, NJ, Mass ect..maintained their independence from the
other railroads that make up CSX. Those Conrail engineers in Ohio,
Pennsylvania, Indiana, and Illinios were mergered into GCA's with the
B&O, L&N ect.... Only those in the Northeast got the chance to vote as
Conrail which their General chairmen refused to negotiate an
on-property SSA.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 April 2010

Hey RRJ:

I don't remember. Did the Conrail engineers vote separately or did the
vote as part on the northern group with the B&O etc?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 April 2010

NoMo

It's all or nothing. That's why it's called a single system
agreement. No more C&O, SCL, B&O ect....everyone will work under one
contract. The BLE wasn't and still isn't a true single system
agreement because the former Conrail in the Northeast corridor opted
out. If you remember recently CSX announced they were consolidating
terminals moving those in the NE corridor down to Ohio ect...once that
occurs those engineers will fall under the SSA. Their old working
agreements will be void.

Name: Sandy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 April 2010

This is a very serious state of affairs. Isn't anyone overseeing what
is going on in the Selkirk area?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 April 2010

Hey C&O Joe:

I have a question concerning your post regarding the CSX/UTU SSA.

You said it looks like it would pass on the SCL and A&WP and fail on
the L&N an C&O.

I read the proposed agreement and didn't see or remember seeing any
thing concerning a split vote...that is what happens if it does indeed
pass on the A&WP and SCL and fails on the L&N and C&O; can the carrier
implement the agreement on the A&WP and SCL or is it all or nothing?

Name: jsmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 April 2010

I posted some info on here about several employee having to testify in
front of the Federal Grand jury a week or so ago about the harassament
and intimidation of injured employee. I have heard several indictments
were handed down on CSX, I have looked several times on here to see if
there was any response to the info I posted but there wasnt. I figured
you guys would be happy about some info like this. In 2008 in Waycross
every manager had been fired, demoted or told they had to go somewhere
else. They were caught signing off work packets and working on
locomotives in the ready field(doing 92 day work), so in other words
there were bribing employees with overtime pay to sign off the work. An
employee was injured and they let him sit in the safety office for
almost a year without reporting his injury, threatened to fire him if
he reported, allowed other employees to harrass him and they would not
let him go in the office without an escort. They sent Chuck Arwood to
take over for the plant manager they fired. Chuck would hide in the
parking lot trying to catch people leaving early, he would also try to
enter peoples vehicles. Ethics was called, someone came and took the
DVR storage device for the video cameras because Chuck was caught on it
pulling on door handels of employees vehicles. There were alot of
injuries after Chuck took over, one person was fired because he put the
worng date on the injury report and his friend lied and said he didnt
fall, The guy had to have a disc replaced. CSX is a bad place to work,
I suggest we the employee's hold them accountable by filing complaints
and lawsuits. We need to keep a close eye on management and document
everything and start standing up to them. Someone posted some
information about the RCO operator that was killed on the CSX message
board on Yahoo finance and it was removed.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 April 2010

A friend of mine in WV went to Memphis, TN for treatment about 5 years
ago. Yes Nomo the votes will be counted on April 30th but I'll just
tell you know, it's not going to pass on the L&N or the C&O. It is
looking like it will pass on the SCL and A&WP though.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 April 2010

April 26th...isn't the vote on the CSX/UTU SSA suppose to be finished
on April 30th?

Heard a lot of talk when it was released...not much since!

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 April 2010

Sara,  It will probably be in Knoxville, TN....They send just about
everyone from the transportation industry there. CSX uses it for just
about every employee from the south.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 April 2010

Sara

The individual can go to any rehab that Blue Cross/Blue Shield
insurance covers. Is this a personal choice to seek help? A person can
do this without the railroads knowledge (the preferred method). We do
have a right to privacy. If CSX and the Employee Assistance Program
(EAP) gets involved then it becomes another issue. If the CSX EAP finds
out then the individual is classified high risk and put under mandated 5
years of random alcohol/drug testing. Which is an embarrassment to the
individual because the notification of testing is done at work with
their co-workers present. If the individual was found intoxicated on
CSX property then they have a "one time" chance to straighten their
life out with a bypass on a Rule G violation and will be taken out of
service for evaluation and treatment then placed under the 5 years of
random testing. I'm the Operation Redblock chairmen in my BLE(T)
division. More information would be helpful.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 April 2010

Sara

They can end up anywhere in the network of ReHabs contracted.

I am not sure on visitations.    Look for 5 years of hell 

Never make that mistake again unless you are related to someone in the

high up club.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 April 2010

Good Evening,

Could someone please tell me where a CSX employee from Virginia would
be sent for alcohol treatment? What might he expect? Will he be allowed
contact with family members? I sincerely appreciate any information you
could provide.

Thanks,
Sara

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 April 2010

I find this amusing...
    
  
   
CSX readies for terrorist threats 

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- CSX's vice president for public safety and
environment said the greatest threat to the company's rail system are
terrorist attacks on passenger train that use its rails, according to
the Journal of Commerce.
 
Howard R. Elliot told a Senate subcommittee hearing on surface
transportation security that the company has created 149 "save
havens" on its lines where Amtrak trains could stop about about 30
miles apart to unload passengers or take care of them. He said about 8
million passengers travel on the company's railways. 

Elliot said CSX has the only U.S. freight railroad police department to
be accredited by the Commission on Accreditation for Law Enforcement
Agencies. The company's police force consists of a rapid response
teams consisting of special agents, explosive-detection and tactical
specialists, hazardous material engineers and medical support
personnel. 

The larger issue at play here are the increased costs railroads have to
take on as the nation pushes for more passenger service on their
railways. 

(The preceding report by Mark Szakonyi was published April 23, 2010, by
the Jacksonville Business Journal.) 
 
April 23, 2010 



The biggest terrorist threat is because AMTRAK runs passenger trains
on CSX's lines. And because CSX has built 149 "save havens" at
great
expense to protect AMTRAK passengers the Government has pushed on
them.

Then he cuts to the chase...increased cost and how about helping us
out. Well now, were the "save havens" mandated or did CSX build these
on speculation?

Hey Howard, CSX has had "save havens" for years...they're called 
"shanties" or "shacks" and they're about 30 switches apart in CSX
yards. They didn't protect Melinda Carter from terrorists and neither
did CSX's Police!

Name: T
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 April 2010

Woman killed by train in work-related incident
April 24, 2010 10:05 AM | 1 Comment 
A veteran CSX Corporation employee who a family member says was on the
company's safety committee was struck and killed by a locomotive
Friday evening as she was working at the company's yard in south
suburban Riverdale.

Melinda Carter, 37, of the 10200 block of South State Street in
Chicago, was pronounced dead at 7:25 p.m. at Ingalls Memorial Hospital
in Harvey, according to a spokeswoman for the Cook County medical
examiner's office. 

Carter, a veteran train conductor for CSX, was killed when she was
pitched out of a locomotive, according to her brother, David Carter.

Melinda Carter had worked for CSX for about 11 years, her brother said,
and was a member of the company's safety committee. "It's not like
she was a novice, not by a long shot," David Carter said.

Carter was struck about 7 p.m. as she was conducting routine switching
operations while cars were being moved preparing them for delivery,
said CSX Corporation spokesman Gary Sease. Carter was struck by a
locomotive on the company's grounds near 134th Street and Ashland
Avenue, Sease said. 

"Our thoughts and prayers are with her family," Sease said. An
investigation is ongoing and company officials have been at the site
all night investigating, he said.

While specifics of the incident remained sketchy Saturday morning,
David Carter said his sister was moving a locomotive that had recently
been put back in commission after having mechanical problems "when
something went wrong."

She was thrown out of the front of the locomotive, which then rolled
over her, David Carter said.

"She enjoyed her work, and was always telling her co-workers 'Safety
first,' " David Carter said.

CSX is based out of Jacksonville, Fla., according to the company's Web
site and is listed as a transportation company that provides rail-based
services.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 April 2010

Ethics class? Last time anyone at management level with CSX mentioned
ethics was in '01. John Snow was CEO and I remember getting a brochure
just before the holidays regarding ethics...like John Snow knew anything
about ethics!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 April 2010

What a stupid arse story. An ex-official recertifying is screwing a
female conductor while her engineer husband is running the train. 1)
that's considered consenual sex if the engineer husband permitted it
2) the engineer husband if he was a man would of been justified to
throw the person off the train literally at max authorized speed when
it was suggested 3) dude go back to writing fairy tales for Hustler or
Penthouse. Give me a break. That some dip wad has people so scared
they'll do anything. What are ya'll a bunch of whimps in Indiana? As
for the union anyone can be turned down for membership. Every
application is voted on by the members present at union meetings. But I
guess seeing not to many go to meetings they wouldn't know that fact.

Name: Doe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 April 2010

Pete, You are right.

How many members from BOTH unions has Danny put on the street, or
fired?  How many lives has Danny ruined with his lies while a CSX
company officer?  How much money have both unions spent defending their
members, who were innocent, and yet found guilty by CSX based upon Danny
Spencer's word as a company officer?  How much money has BRCF, and the
UTU insurance plan paid out, based upon the LIES Danny Spencer charged
our union members with.

David Brown made all of us T&E employees go through an ethics class
this month.  CSX management wasted our time telling all employees how
CSX company officers were going to be held accountable for their
actions with reguards to the CSX Ethics policy.  

Brown wants to talk the talk about how things have changed for the
better, now that Ingram is gone, but when given the chance to walk the
walk, and talk the talk in reguards to Danny Spencer, Brown cowers and
sends Danny back into the ranks of the same employees that he screwed
over in more ways than one. 

Does anyone know if Brown or the Union is going to hold former CSX
Company Officer, Danny Spencer accountable for his theft of money from
CSX?  What about for Danny's lack of moral charcter while a company
officer?  How about the lies that he told in countless investigations
that were held against our union brothers and sisters.  Is Brown going
to do the right thing, and over turn the investigations that Danny
participated in?  Is the union going to appeal the investigation that
Danny participated in on behalf of its members?  Is Brown going to
clear the employees records that have marks on them, due to Danny's
lies while he moved up the company ladder? Is the union going to ask
that the company clear the employees records that were wrongfully
charged.  Shouldn't they both work together to clean up the mess that
Danny created?  After all Danny was a company officer, and is currently
a BLE member.  We pay dues every month, and it would be nice to see our
union's leadership to grow a set of balls, and climb out from under
Brown's desk and defend us? 

One has to wonder why Brown wasted his time, and all of ours printing
up a worthless blue document, and forcing all of the T&E employees
to sit with management while they LIED to us telling us how things were
going to be better now that Ingram has left, and how members of
management was going to be held accountable for ethics.  When push
cames to shove, Danny got shoved out the door of management, and into
the BLE's arms in Garrott, and now he works out of Lafayette, Indiana.
Now that Danny is the BLE's problem, how are OUR unions going to work
with the company to solve it?

Danny Spencer is a worthless piece of shit.  His actions as a company
officer should be a point of embarrassment for this company.  For the
BLE to willingly allow Danny Spencer to become a member in good
standing, after what he personally has done to both union's members,
is nothing short of disgusting.  Where is the moral's clause in
membership?

Rick Finamore, grow a pair of balls and demand that David Brown live up
to what he wrote in his little blue pamplet about management being
accountable under the ethics policy.  

HOLD DANNY SPENCER ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS ACTIONS AS A CSX COMPANY
OFFICER.  CLEAR THE RECORDS OF ALL THOSE THAT DANNY WRONGFULLY CHARGED,
OR HEARINGS WHERE DANNY WAS INVOLVED IN WHILE HE WAS A COMPANY OFFICER.
If Brown fails to do this, ask yourself, and your union representation,
is this a violation of the CSX Ethic's policy?  If you feel it is, call
the ethics hotline on Brown.  After all, failure to do so, could result
in YOU knowing of an ethics violation, and not reporting it.  Don't
get yourself charged, charge Brown, before he charges you, like Danny
did to us union members.

Name: Pete
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 April 2010

Danny is working out of Lafayette on the conductor's extra board.  

Danny couldn't cut it as an engineer in Garrot, so he put in for a
flow back, and went to Lafayette.  

According to several guys at Garrott, the reason they're upset with
Danny is because he was screwing a female conductor on the 2nd unit
while her husband ran the engine during his recert.  Talk was something
about Danny threatening both the male engineer, and the female conductor
with their jobs if he didn't get what he wanted from the female.  Danny
abused his position as a company officer to get what he wanted from
people.  (Someone from Garrott, close to what happened needs to clarify
the story for all of us)  

Danny made it clear to everyone that was going into an investigation
against him, that the company would always believe him over the
employees, because according to the CSX Ethics policy, Company
Officers, don't lie.

Danny maybe keeping his head low while in Lafayette, and enjoying his
BLE membership.  If I were a member of the BLE in Lafayette, I'd
consider switching membership.  Would you want to be a member of
anything Danny Spencer is a member of?  It doesn't say much for the
BLE to have a known sexist, racist, and a man that couldn't tell the
truth if his life depended upon it in their ranks.  Doesn't the union
have a morals clause?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 April 2010

Spencer marked up on cond ex-board Lafayette In.

Name: who
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 April 2010

where does the Montgomery awp run ?

Name: jsmith45
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 April 2010

Several employees from Waycross had to testify in front of a Federal
Grand jury two weeks ago. I believe some indictments were handed down
on CSX. All this stems to the harassment and intimidation of injured
employees. One was fired a while back because he put the wrong date on
the injury report and the witness was at fault for his injury and he
lied on the poor guy to save his job. I think the guy that got hurt had
to have a disc replaced in his back. I hope CSX gets what they deserve
from the grand jury.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 April 2010

Hey Friend:

I thought I read he was headed to Indianapolis. He could be in
Hattiesburg in sex rehab or in the CSX scumbag protection program!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 April 2010

So does anyone know where that scumball Danny Spencer has landed?  

Union Man

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 April 2010

NoMo

I got one heck of a deal at JR Cigars a few weeks ago. On JR's weekly
online Dutch auction I bid and won a box of 20 Partagas Limited Reserve
Decadas for $111.25 which sell for $370.00 locally at Havana's and
$299.00 at JR'S. One of my favorites more than a Cohiba. Now if
America would just get over this embargo bullschidt we could smoke the
real deal Cuban's instead of the Dominicans. Till that happens I'll
just sneek a few every now and then across from Canada.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2010

Hey RRJ:

Time to break out the bottle of Santiago, a Robaina and fire up in
memory of a master.

     http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36621670/ns/business/

Nothing like a Rum cocktail to set the tone for the day!

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 April 2010

Either way he spells "maybe" wrong everytime.  (mabey)... He does not
seem to be very educated.  It is the "me, me" generation.  Oh well, I
have learned alot from old heads.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 April 2010

Hey American Worker:

The only jerk off around here is you. You're probably rubbing one off
right now. I doubt you ever did an honest days work in you life let
alone be in a union...unless you're talking about the student union.
Father and two uncles retired from the railroad...bull shit.
5'11'', 250 LBS. covered in tats...don't you mean zits? Of course
with your anger management issues they could be prison tats which would
explain the weight training a hand to hand combat training!

Now go over to Oregon and watch a few roll by...I bet it'll make your
thingy twitch! Then you can come back and regale us with your
vast railroad knowledge.

Here's your chance, CSX is hiring a diesel mechanic in Toledo and with
a Father and two Uncles former railroaders and your union experience,
you're a shoo in...just remember, no one likes sticky tools!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 April 2010

NoMo

Let the kid have his fun. If it makes him feel better that's alright.
If he gets out of control we'll put him in the corner for a time out.
I'm still trying to figure out who is RJJ?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2010

Who is RJJ? I'm glad it's not me.

Name: american worker
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 April 2010

NOMO   your way wrong there little dude.  And it looks like you are
kissing the right ass on here to get no where.  What a jerk off. Sounds
like you are trying for a merit badge with RJJ the "know it all"
manorailroader. My point stands firm and by the way you are boring the
hell out of me so go play with your tonka toys. Sounds lime you want to
be a RJJ yourself. Mabey you can tell us how rich and famous you and
your stocks are too? Mabey even tell us how great a RR you are.  Ok,
RJJ make a comeback railgod.  What is a foamer? sounds like like you
are foaming over RJJ and want to be his little buddy. bye bye. I am
going back to my working class life so dont bother causde I wont
respond to a idiot like you. Keep on kissing RJJ ass

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 April 2010

Hey RRJ:

I wouldn't waste my time arguing with a foamer. Over the last 5 or 6 
weeks you have been addressed by:

American Worker
Union 
RRJ 300+
Bustout
Bonus
Conan
Support unions, and 
Wasted my time with the unions...

In descending order.

You're the most popular guy on the site.
As dumb as I am...I bet they are the same chump foamer!

I think he started on me, after I questioned him but he quit after
after he was told differently.

Maintain your focus...there are more important things that need 
discussion!

Hey Webbie, am I wrong?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2010

Idiot

That was a lot of issues out of my one paragraph. We weren't any
different than you are today. Starting out we didn't have anything it
took years to acquire. Something your generation doesn't seem to
understand. Maybe because your mommy believed in time outs instead of a
good old fashioned arse whooping. Not all of your generation is like you
but a good percentage appear to have been spoiled. You fall in the
latter catagory. I don't care wether a person gets furloughed I know
that it's part of the job only time and seniority stops it. I know
it's not the end of the world furloughs weed out those who aren't
dedicated. No sympathy here.

Name: American worker
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 April 2010

stop crying about your god dam stocks i am sick of hearing about it RJJ.
 You baby boomers 55 plus yrs old only care about your selfs and not the
anyone else. You cry about perscription plans and want more  and more
given to you and after retirment you cry baby boomers become
republicans but two yrs before you were democrats when it protected
your jobs. Now you dont want the younger generation to have anything.
You cry babys had the entire world handed to you by your WWII vet
fathers and you ruined it.  You guys cry cry and cry baby all of the
time. When you were working it was never good enough then when some
younger guys coming up need union protection and your help you just
treat them like shit.  RJJ 30 plus yrs shut the hell up.  baby boomers
could walk down the street and get any job they want and that was never
good enough, now all of a sudden you guys are retiring and have left the
entire country in a wreck from your greed. 2 brand new trucks, a Harley,
a $350K house, five rental propertys, ect ect what a list. You have left
your kids and the younger people with nothing. Just look at the bush
administration he was is a baby boomer.  55 plus people neeed to go the
local nursing home and stop getting in the way of progress and shut the
hell up. You people are 65 plus now and acting like you have to make
plans for the next 30 yrs????  And you guys think everything you own is
better than anyone younger. RJJ is a greedy prick who carrys a mirror
around with him to look at his vanity everyday. All glory is
fleeting....................   Hey RJJ take your stocks and shove em' 
By the way it was baby boomers who started the drug trade, war
protesting ect ect. Sure some went o Vietnam but that was for one year
we are serving three and four tours with no work when we come home.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 April 2010

Hey RRJ:

CSX did have a great first quarter compared to last year...so will all
the other RRs as will almost all other public companies. Last year they
all had a lousy year because of the economy. 

Most companies report first quarter results starting the second week of
April. I think the UP reports on 4/22. Compared to last year they all
will report stellar results. All companies reporting positive results
should get a bump. The market is up 130 points since Monday, 
most of this is based on positive earnings reported so far.

However, I really think a better comparison of a company's quarterly
operating results is comparing them to the first quarter 2008. You
really need to compare apples to apples...last year was a turnip!

Give it a couple of weeks and profits will be taken and the prices will
settle back down to a more reasonable level. The insider trading
activity will also be intense! The real problem occurs when any market
expands too rapidly and the fundamentals aren't there to support the
stock price...eventually it will correct itself and if it is too hot
it'll collapse. We all know what happens then...and it ain't good!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2010

NoMo

After looking at railroad stock prices this morning the NS & UP both
have increased significantly. This isn't just a CSX fluke. NS has
always been at least $5 more per share than CSX which after yesterdays
closing it confirms an across the board increase. Since Buffett bought
BNSF the stock price isn't mentioned anymore along with the other
class 1's. Last year when the board of director war's on CSX occured
it has changed CSX outlook there are board members now who have 25+
years railroad experience.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 April 2010

Here is the banner and first paragraph from the press release CSX made
concerning their first quarters earnings on 4/13/10:


CSX Announces 22% Increase in First Quarter Earnings Per Share from
Continuing Operations
 
--Year-Over-Year Highlights: -- Record performance in employee safety
-- Revenue increases 11% to nearly $2.5 billion -- Operating income
increases 21% to $634 million -- Operating ratio improves 230 basis
points to 74.5% 
JACKSONVILLE, Fla., April 13, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ --CSX
Corporation (NYSE: CSX) today announced first quarter earnings per
share from continuing operations of $306 million, or 78 cents per
share, versus $254 million, or 64 cents per share, in the same period
last year. This represents a 22 percent year-over-year improvement in
earnings per share from continuing operations.

This looks impressive compared to the prior year. 

Here's the banner and first paragraph from the press release CSX made
concerning their first quarter earning on 4/14/09:


CSX Announces First Quarter Results
 
--First Quarter Highlights: - Safety and service levels remain strong -
Productivity and right-sizing actions delivering cost savings - Earnings
per share of 62 cents, operating income of $522 million
JACKSONVILLE, Fla., April 14, 2009 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ --
CSX Corporation (NYSE: CSX) today announced first quarter earnings of
$246 million, or 62 cents a share, versus $351 million, or 85 cents per
share, last year. Excluding 5 cents per share from an equity earnings
adjustment in the first quarter of 2008, comparable earnings per share
declined 23 percent. (See table below for reconciliation of quarter
items to reported numbers.) 


Now here's the banner and first paragraph from the press release
CSX made concerning their first quarter earning made on 4/15/2008. 

CSX Reports 63 Percent Increase in Earnings Per Share
 
First Quarter Highlights: - Record first quarter operating income and
revenues - Record first quarter operating ratio of 77 percent -
Industry leading service and safety performance
JACKSONVILLE, Fla., April 15, 2008 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX
News Network/ -- CSX Corporation (NYSE: CSX) today reported first
quarter earnings of $351 million, or 85 cents per share, versus $240
million, or 52 cents per share, last year. This represents a 63 percent
improvement in earnings per share over last year. 
First quarter results included 5 cents per share from a non-cash equity
earnings adjustment this year and 2 cents per share from insurance
recoveries last year. On a comparable basis, excluding these items,
first quarter EPS was up 60 percent from a year ago. (See table below
for reconciliation of quarter items to reported numbers.) 


A fairer comparison of results would be the first quarter 2010/2008
in my opinion. You might also note the restatement of earnings for the
first quarter from $246 million in 2009 to $254 million in 2010.

There's no such thing as bad publicity!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 April 2010

Hey RRJ:

It use to be called Day Trading when guys like us jumped in made a
quick buck and got out. If you happened to have millions it was called
speculation. Prior to the advent of Day Trading the market was much
more stable. Day Trading didn't really exist until after the financial
markets were deregulated back in the 80s.

Perhaps, when the the short term capital gains tax increase at the end
of the year, unless extended, some stability will return, but I doubt
it. 

The stock market is still the best vehicle to wealth but it should be
considered a long term investment.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 April 2010

Hey Lloyd:

I didn't say HSR wouldn't work...I just don't see HSR and freight
coexisting on the same track. First and foremost, I think there are far
too many grade crossing and speed restrictions to deal with. Secondly,
far too many line blockages because of maintenance or derailments.
Anyway, you get the idea.

For HSR to be truly effective there will have to be a separate
infrastructure, with no or very limited grade crossing. The Acela which
runs from DC to Boston has a top speed of 150 MPH but averages only
about 75 MPH. The Acela is a snail compared to other HSR systems. Also,
there has to be multiple trains between cities daily.

Passenger rail can compete with air travel effectively, especially on
short and mid range runs. 

I think the $8 billion the administration has proposed for HSR is just
a drop in bucket. It's a start but there is a long way to go and years
before we get there!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 April 2010

NoMo

The stock market is very vulnerable an unsettling. Look at CSX stock
yesterday up 4.09% at 55.46. That is unrealistic. Today or tommorrow
people will sell bringing it back down to where it should be. As long
as this practice of short selling continues their will be no stability.
This quick buck attitude is hurting us. Those who got in early are in it
for the long haul this won't affect us. Like everything in life being
at the right place at the right time is what counts.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 April 2010

Amtrak has priority over all CSX trains.  Z trains ( which are foreign
line trains) Do not have any priority at all.  I have seen in some
cases where a hot UPS train or juice train might run ahead of the Auto
train just because the run the same speed.  But in just about every
case the Amtrak will take priority over any train.  When the railroad
is in a total mess ( weather, dogged trains, yards clogged up, broken
rails, etc )  a dispr will sometimes treat Amtrak as just like any
another train, this is so they can clean up the railroad.  This
situation is very rare.

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 April 2010

You guys are funny as HELL!  I love the train "humor" on here! Come on
lets not fight, "cant we all just get along" O man that is a bad one
ah! I hate that saying. As far as high speed rail is conserned just
take a look at Trains mag or the RR press. I know I know you guys are
seasoned proffesionals and wont read "rail fan" mags, but trust me
you will become very  informed.  I would hope Amtrack can make it back
with all the money that it is going to be getting. And yes high speed
rail is a good "thing" as long as American jobs are created.  It
would connect us nicely such as Europe ect.  There is huge debate over
Amtrack right now and what they are going to do. It will be of interest
to see how the class 1 RRs handle the extra load if Amtrack brings back
all of the passanger trains they want and the public wants. They also
need new equipment such as dinner cars, sleepers ect. Just recently a
CSX freight train lost a door off of a box car and it struck the tops
of several Amtrack cars and tore into the dinner car exposing crtical
material. We should concentrate on Amtrack here becuse that is where
high speed rail will need to start.  The class 1 RRs, which you guys
work for are going to be a PARKING LOT out there! Dispatchers are
having a daily heart attack while the train crews are pissed off like
crazy while they wait for AMtrack trains which seem to have priortiy
over all other train traffic. Correct me here RRJ but do they have
priorty over Z trains such as well car or intermodal trains? One CSX
dispatcher recently was quoted as saying trains trains everywhere and
no where to put them. Amtrack seems to be gaining priority over
standard RR frieght such as coal, grain, and general merchandise trains
ect. Hey RRJ does Amtrack pay the class 1 RRs? Not to sound stupid here
but do they have to pay to operate on these rails or and who owns
Amtrack?  Take care my friend.  Also my dad told me at one point CSX
was going to take out the "hump" and move it closer to the Arrival
yard or as they say rival yard? Mabey that is why CSX uses the old
Conrail Stanley yard. It is busy as hell, but the tracks looks real
bad. A lot of it looks like wet nooddles!

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 April 2010

Please stop this stupid spat with RRJ.  He's not going to bend and
neither are you so can you girls just stop bickering altogether?

Nomo, I disagree that high speed rail can't work here.  Why couldn't
it?  You would have more delays on freight but you would still be able
to operate the railroad effeciently, especially if you add a third
track in some areas for heavy traffic.  If airlines think they are in
competition with the railroads they will drop their prices.  There
really is no competition there but if high speed rail picks up, we
better up the security fast.  I see idiots all over the tracks all the
time and we would need a major overhaul to keep trespassers away..and
foamers.

Name: RJJ 300 yrs on the RR
E-mail: 
Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 April 2010

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2010



Yardmaster to Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2010  over  Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2010  yardmaster dont bother me right now I am
enjoying my stock report and by the way can you have a crew van come
down here and pick me up I dont want to have to walk 20 ft to the yard
office becuse I am reading my privilaged stock reports and bragging to
the remote crews who are actualy working that I am the best I am the
best i am the best, me me me me. I dont have to egt my new boots dirty
give me give me give me!!!!  Conductor to Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2010  over, you are on the ground down here and have
"puddled" the rail again!!!!  This is it I am bumping onto another
job with a "good" crew over.  Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2010  over there is no train on the ground within 100
miles of here and I am the best engineer ever, no one can match my
skill over.  Conductor the road foreman wants to see you as does the
trainmaster, by the way your stock reports are all over the ground
too!LOL LOL. Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2010 over  Listen I just spilled my hot coffee into my
crotch, dropped my copy of hustler mag, lost my keys to my Mercedees
S-600 and cant get the locomotive to move and I just flodded the
toilet!  Call the shop crew I have the best stock reports better than
you and I have more money than you me me me over.  By the way is this a
remote or a scooter?  It wont move not even my stock reports and
greatness can get it to move the tires wont go over    Conductor  
listen idiot that is a locomotive and it does not have tires over Name:
RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2010 over can i drive it on the ties over........ 
Silence..............

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 April 2010

Hey RRJ:

First, let me see where to start...the railroads are indeed the
lifeline of America...they are what made America great. They allowed
us to develop our industrial base that led to the most powerful economy
in the world. Not unlike the steel or paper industries the RRs have sat
on their laurels for decades allowing their infrastructure to
deteriorate and technology to lag.

The reasons high speed passenger service is successful in Europe and
Asia is distance and Government subsidies. In America the distances
between cities are greater, particularly west of the Mississippi and
the infrastructure isn't there...I personally don't think true high
speed passenger rail and freight can coexist on the same road.

As far as the restrictions on striking...the Government knows if they
strike and it lasts more than a week or two, it would lead to  economic
and civil chaos and the Government's ultimate collapse.

I totally agree the airlines are cutting their own throats with all the
BS charges...it's like getting your oil changed for $19.95 and then you
get a hazardous disposal fee of $5.00...just charge me $24.95! Because
of BS like that and ridiculous security our Government subjects us to I
refuse to fly commercial airlines. Ultimately, I think you will see the
domestic airline industry consolidated down to two carriers, one
domestic and one international and nationalized to compete with foreign
carriers

The fact that Obama and Bush had to resort to making recess
appointments shows just how ineffective our representatives are and why
there is gridlock in Washington. Hopefully, with a full NMB we will
begin to see some more even handed awards. 

In regard to stock, I firmly believe that stock price in a public
company should be based on past performance, future prospects and
stability...not hype! If a company is sound, people will buy their
stock. In a free market, the stock will set it's own price. Although
public relations has always been part of business and analysts have
provided a valuable service to investors; the trend over the last 20
years of spinning results proves troubling to me. True that hype helps
the stock price on the upside, it hurts the price on the down side.
When the market tanked in Oct.'08 it was over bought as was the
housing market. In both cases hype was a major contributor, the other
culprit was greed. We are still years away from fully recovering and
seem to have embarked down the same path again.

Oh, by the way...you know that little disclaimer about forward looking
statements you see at the bottom of public company's press
releases...thank Enron, that's their contribution!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 April 2010

http://www.railwayage.com/breaking-news/american-made-in-china-high-speed-trains.html

RRJ:

I too would love to see this happen here. But, after reading this
article, I am uncomfortable with the thought of Chinese equipment and
personnel operating on our existing and future rail network.  Call me
suspicious, but I don't like that idea from a National Security
standpoint, nor do I like American jobs being sacrificed for employees
of the Chinese Government.  They have taken enough of our jobs already
in the last 30 years.  It is past time for us to stop growing an empire
at the expense of our own country.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 April 2010

NoMo

CSX it's a railroad stock. Railroads are the lifeline of America.
Cities like NYC, LA, Chicago ect...depend on railroads to bring in
necessary goods. They can't be compared to ENRON which was nothing but
a sham they hauled no goods they provided nothing it was all
speculation. CSX could do better no arguement on that one. Why do you
think the federal goverment restricts railroad unions from striking?
Because we could cripple the economy of this country. I look for
passenger rail ridership to increase if high speed rail comes about.
The airline industry is doing themselves in by placing extra charges
like claimed baggage their even thinking about charging for carry-ons.
It's about time America wakes up we are the only civilized country
that doesn't have high speed rail. It's long over due. Obama just
appointed a full arbitration panel something we haven't had in almost
a decade. Obama made the appointment while congress was out of session
which is not unusual. Bush did the same more than any other president
he appointed people 15 times while congress was out of session.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2010

I hope you're some little kid. I'd hate to think someone with your
childish mentality would actually work on the railroad. Anyway keep it
up it's amusing but funny doesn't last forever a good jokester knows
when to end it.

Name: bustout
E-mail: 
Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 April 2010

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2010
   

Dispatcher to RRJ Q911  are you on the ground there over?  RRJ to yard
master no there is no train within 100 miles of here on the ground
over? dispatcher?  RRJ LISTEN to me sonny you are on the ground all
over back there, your EOD is in front of your train and the last car is
the first car over? RRJ dispatch restricted approach over RRJ
waakkkeeeeee uppppppp  you just ran a red block over? RRJ dispatch that
was not a red block there are no red blocks within one hundred miles of
here over!? RRJ to yard master over? yard master over?  RRJ   my stocks
are realy going through the roof now over? I am in run 8 and she is not
moving but it looks like someone is welding out there over? yard master
thats your train on the ground and the rail chewing up dummy over? RRJ,
listen i have over 30 plus yrs experience out here and there is no
train on the ground within 100 miles of here, o wait a minute is that a
UFO over yard master NO ITS YOU GETTING PULLED OUT OF SERVICE!!!!!!!!!!
RRJ DAMMIT I just spilled my coffe and dumped my sub sandwhich all over
and lost my copy of hustler mag!!DAM. O is that a crew van hm I have
only been in service for 2 hours cool! Too good a early quit, after all
I am old school and do what i want without no rules over.  o MAN CANT
WAIT TO GET SOME MORE STOCK Of course I am a coperate plant

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2010

Thank's moron. I needed a good laugh. I don't whine and cry over every
little thing like you sissy little pukes. I see it as it is. The
railroad gave me a good carreer now I have a wonderful retirement. Keep
working paying in to RRB and running trains so my stocks keep making me
money. I'm smart enough to know when to sell it isn't high enough
yet.

Name: Bonus
E-mail: 
Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 April 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7vvVmA5spE    RRJ engineer for 30 plus
yrs doing his best swtiching job!?  Hey RRJ yardmaster over do you know
that your cars are all over the ground son?  RRJ yardmaster over no that
aint true there are no cars on the ground within 100 miles of here!  My
train is fine over.  RRJ yardmaster over RRJ um your cars are on the
ground and you are in emergency over RRJ yardmaster over nope she is
moving fine and light. very nice move of this cut of cars though it
does feel light over......... RRJ 30 plus yrs over

Name: Conan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 April 2010

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 April 2010
   

It sounds like either you are the web master here or you actualy own
this web site?  You aparantley have a LOT of information on every
subject anyone places on here?  Are you a rail fan for 30 plus yrs or a
retired engineer who loves CSX and does not like CSX? Just wondering
becuse you either have a very high IQ or you know juts how to start
people up?  As far as CSX being good or bad it just depends on how you
look at it I guess. Many younger employees want to have instant respect
and be the "man" while working. I find it funny sometimes on here
becuse for the most part CSX has junk for engines and keeps repainting
them over and over again with ugly colors to cover up how old and
decrpid they realy are.  CSX has so mnay beat up GP-38-2s and SD50s and
switchers it is not even funny.  I bet the paint weighs in at 2 tons on
every unit. They should just put them into primer and leave them that
way.  As far as you go I wonder what go's through your mind sometimes
on here, you act the part as a "spokeperson" for CSX then cut on
them? You are either bored or have to much time on your old hands Sir. 
The word is that you had a bad history with draw bars and couplers? It
is said that you left more draw bars and got more knucles than the pope
is catholic? And you ran most of your trains solid and knock your crews
around? Also the word on the street is that you is you in the picture
with your pants down on the bridge HAHA. What were you doing? USe the
toilet next time sir or mabey a tree? Yard masters always said that you
were either late or could not figure out how to get your train to move?
I feel bad for you man.  What gives?  is it true that you have the
record for "picked" switches and rolled over fright cars?  It is said
that train crews would "bump" onto other jobs just to stay away from
you becuse you would dump the air when you got a red block or slow
approach? Man

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 April 2010

People tend to equate a company's stock price with it's ability to
perform, sustain itself and financial stability; which is a gigantic
mistake.

Enron, MCI and TYCO are only a few examples of what can happen when
there is no transparency. In the case of CSX and for that matter,
plenty of others, a well timed press release goes a long way in
manipulating the stock price. The recent release by Christian Wetherbee
for FBR Capital Markets is a good example.

Every time CSX releases an earning report, regardless of market
conditions and company performance, one of their analyst will rate
them. The rating will be "out perform" or "buy" if market
conditions and company performance is good, if those conditions are
neutral they will issue a "hold" rating and should the conditions be
less favorable the rating will be "under perform" or "sell".

The current price of $52.89/share is a P/E of 18.17, Mr. Wetherbee set
a target price of $63/share which is a P/E of 21.65 based on current
earnings per share of $2.911. Unless CSX has a dramatic increase in
earning per share, a 21.65 ratio is, in my opinion, at best highly
speculative.

I personally think CSX stock is over bought at $52.89. CSX is a mid
sized mature company. I look at the P/E ratio...the lower the better
and begin to get antsy when it approaches 15. Based on that I would
have sold at $43.67 and been happy; especially if I bought at $20.

Of course this is coming from me, who in '85 bought $20K of Microsoft
stock on it's IPO and sold it off, I made a lot of money.
Several years back, out of curiosity, I calculated that if I had held
it, it would have been worth $65 million. Not one of my better
decisions...oh well.

In any event, remember that for everyone that makes money on a stock,
someone will lose money on the same stock given free market
conditions. When information is spun to manipulate stock price to
benefit a select few bad things will eventually happen. The market free
fall from it's high of 13,930 in Oct.'08 to 7,092 in Jan.'09 is a
case in point. Today the market hovers around 11,000...what supports
that, certainly not performance so it must be spin. 

The market is over bought and will correct itself by 10% maybe 15%,
probably before year end.

Name: Stockwatch
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 April 2010

Maybe CSX stock went up when Dr. Ingram left?

This guy looks like a Doctorate CanDIDate


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/12/don-blankenship-investors_n_534901.html

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2010

I haven't a clue why people are so anal about CSX stock. I've owned
railroad stocks for 30 years they've always rebounded after a market
downturn. Railroads will be around for decades they've survived more
than a century and a half. My one mistake was in the late '80s I owned
around 900 shares of Chessie System which I purchased thru payroll
deduction. Going thru a divorce and not wanting the soon to be ex-wife
to get half I cashed it all in and had one great time. Now 21 years
later I think of what that stock with the splits ect...would be worth.
I would be a lot more secure financially than I'am today. The reason
I'm secure today is because I was smart enough early last year to
invest all my BLE 401K into CSX stock. It has more than doubled my
investment compared to if I had stuck it out with schitty mutual funds.
The notion of wanting CSX to fail which is constantly posted on this
site is humurous if that happened you'ld be out of a job. Just look
what happened to railroads that were taken over by the mega-railroads
like Conrail, RF&P ect...when CSX & NS took over Conrail heads rolled.
CSX might not be the best place to work because of the ethics in
management but it pays the bills.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 April 2010

Investors buy stocks and bonds to make money, therefore they generally
invest in companies that appear to be successful. Corporate fraud
occurs when a company misleads the public and analysts by manipulating
information to make itself look strong and profitable when in reality
it is not.

In 2004 one of the largest corporate fraud cases ever involved a
Houston, Texas-based energy company, Enron. Enron was formed in 1985 as
a merger of Houston Natural Gas and InterNorth. The corporation expanded
rapidly both in the In one of the largest corporate fraud cases ever,
the debt of energy company Enron was purposely hidden from stockholders
by fraudulent accounting and continually forming new partnerships with
other companies through buying and selling stock (AP/Wide World Photos)
United States and internationally through complex deals and contracts.
Unknown to all but a few top executives and its accountants (from the
accounting firm Arthur Anderson), Enron fell billions of dollars into
debt.

Enron's growing debt was purposely hidden from stockholders by
fraudulent accounting and continually forming new partnerships with
other companies through buying and selling stock. Much of the money
used in these stock transactions did not go into Enron but into the
pockets of its executives. The fraud was revealed in October 2001 when
Enron announced it was worth $1.2 billon less than it had been
reporting. Enron fell into bankruptcy and many of its officials were
charged on multiple fraud counts, including securities fraud. Investors
and employees lost millions; many lost their entire life savings.

Other classic types of corporate white-collar crime include
price-fixing and antitrust or restraint-of-trade violations. During the
late 1880s leaders of several major industries brought their companies
together to prevent competition and ruin smaller rivals. The
organizations they formed were called "trusts." To stop these trusts
from controlling the markets and the American economy, Congress passed
the Sherman Antitrust Act in 1890. This act was the cornerstone of U.S.
antitrust and price-fixing law.

Price-fixing involves companies with little competition to set high
prices for the products they produce. The Antitrust Division of the FBI
prosecutes price-fixing and antitrust cases. One successfully prosecuted
high profile case of the late 1990s involved Archer Daniels Midland
Company (ADM) and seven other companies. The charges against ADM and
the others stemmed from the price-fixing of two chemicals, lysine and
citric acid.

By fixing the prices of these chemicals, the companies—which were the
largest manufacturers of these valuable products—were able to control
sales worldwide. Lysine is used by farmers in feed products for poultry
and pigs. Citric acid is a flavor additive and preservative used in many
items such as soda drinks, processed foods, and cosmetics. Over a
billion dollars in sales worldwide were affected by this price-fixing
scheme. Eight corporations and six individual defendants admitted to
the price-fixing and were fined about $200 million.

Read more: White-Collar Crime - Corporate Fraud
http://law.jrank.org/pages/11938/White-Collar-Crime-Corporate-fraud.html#ixzz0kwodY41G

CSX hires ex Enron Spin Doctors, NS Nazis and other useful personnel to
weave a web to practice to decieve.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 April 2010

Christian Wetherbee should look into this corrupt outfit before she
makes a fool comment.  CSX is a inbred outfit.  Drugs, Drinking, 
Homosexual activites and Stupid management makes up this corrupt
outfit.

Buy CSX stock at your own Risk.   So many other stocks to buy than this

excuse for a railroad.


CSX stock at 18-month high     Never buy on a high   Why did Tony and
Mikey sell their stock recently if it was going way up?

Canadian National looks much better.    


CSX is buyer beware.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 April 2010

Let's see if we can get a little momentum going into Tuesday's earning
report!

Christian Wetherbee is an analyst for FBR Capital Markets which is a
market maker for CSX.
 
 
CSX stock at 18-month high
 
Investors are apparently expecting to hear good things from CSX Corp.
when the Jacksonville-based railroad company reports its first-quarter
earnings on Tuesday. Even before the report, CSX’s stock traded at an
18-month high last week, the Florida Times-Union reports. 
CSX is actually benefiting from an overall bullish market for railroad
stocks, which was helped by Warren Buffett’s recent takeover of
Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corp. 

FBR Capital Markets analyst Christian Wetherbee last week initiated
coverage of the U.S. rail industry with a generally positive view. 

“While rail stocks have shown remarkable resilience, posting a ninth
consecutive year of out performance relative to the S&P 500 in 2009, we
believe the reality of significantly higher incremental margins has only
begun to set in and is likely to lead to higher full-year 2010 EPS
results than the consensus currently forecasts,” Wetherbee said in his
industry report. 

Wetherbee rated CSX as “outperform” and set a price target of $63 for
the stock, which closed at $53.47 Friday. 

“We believe that the company has evolved through the recent rail
renaissance and its 2007 proxy battle with activist shareholders to
become an industry leader in cost initiatives and network efficiency.
We also believe that this first-mover advantage provides the company
the ability to react more quickly than peers to improving volumes as
2010 progresses and that it may drive conversion of incremental revenue
to operating profit at a higher rate,” he said. 

(This item appeared in the Times-Union April 12, 2010.)

Name: Joe Shit the Ragman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 April 2010

Damn near finally free of this company after 34 years. There were some
really good people I worked with over the years and some real assholes
. To the good guys , I'm gonna miss you all. To the Assholes ....For
your sake I hope I never run into y'all again . I dont like jail 
HAHAHAHA

Name: Train wreck
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 April 2010

Some of the quotes I've heard from my supervisors

" If it's not safe to do...find a safe way to do it "
" were not building Cadillacs here "
" our job is to move freight not fix cars "
" it's not loose/broke enuff let it go "
      And my personal favorite 
" I want you to do your job..but..I don't want you to do your job..ya
know what I mean "

Name: Train wreck
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 April 2010

Safety......It's all a matter of opnion in Barr Yard. Interpitation of
FRA rules depends on who's reading them or how high your bad order
count gets.To make a judgement call on the side of safety could cost
you your job. Safety first is the new joke slogan.And god forbid
managment come to an employee to proactively to fix any problems or
miscommunication or misinterpitation..Reactive is how officals operate
to every situation faced in this yard

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 April 2010

trainmen112

CSX Police have more jurisdiction than a local, county, or state police
officer. Don't take them lightly. There are laws governing rail
fans/trespassers they can not be within 150 feet of a train. Personally
I've never had a problem with anyone taking pictures ect...but in
reality security on the railroad is non-excistent. Last year a news
crew was at a rail yard in California it was night they had lights on
for the camera in the background you could see carmen, yard crews
ect...not one person came up to see what was going on. The news crew
taped a box on to a tank car then followed it for 500 miles it went
unnoticed. Every rail yard I've ever worked in had trespassers no one
did a thing. The railroads transport 85% of all chemicals in this
country. We haul military shipments including DOD specials. Bush
allowed the railroads to monitor their own security after 9/11 nothing
changed. Railroad police are spread thin some cover up to 5 states.
About the only areas I know that have railroad police in force is on
the former Conrail territories. If a few rail fans get their feelings
hurt then it's a small price compared to ignoring an actually threat
to our security.

Name: trainmen112
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 April 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJarO8zesQc&feature=related


Check out this video and see what these rail fan people have to say? 
Sounds to me like CSX security does not have a clue how to be nice to
people or mabey they are jealous of real police officers?  Sounds like
they are angry that they could not cut it being real cops so they try
to act out on people. Talk about Courtesy and Professionalism, CSX
Style

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 April 2010

Hey RRJ:

Don't remember whether it was the BLE or UTU that negotiated the H&W
agreement first. Remember when the Carriers paid 100% of the premium?
Life was good back then.

Then, in the case of the UTU, the agreement was renegotiated and the
employee ended up paying $100/month for family coverage. Still not
bad...since then the premiums have increased steadily to the current 
rate. It's still a better deal than almost everyone else's, but the
employee has to pay several hundred a month for something that use to
be free.

The H&W agreement was negotiated and ratified before the national
agreement was negotiated. The net result of this was the ground service
personal actually took a net cut in pay...something they will never
recover from.

A $1,000 lump sum payment equals about $0.48/hour gross based of a
40/hour week...the O/T rate would not change. Of coarse factor in 8
hours/week or 416 hours/year and it becomes miniscule.

Two years of that and then the big 2% per year for three years
based on whatever their pay rate is at the time the SSA is ratified.
I doubt any money the get, whether it is from a lump some or percentage
increase will be enough to pay the employee's increase in H&W premiums
let alone the cost-of-living increases.

Without any bonuses or stock awards, their standard of living should be
increasing...with the SSA I just don't see it.

The one thing I see with the SSA is it makes the ground service
employees take ownership of their job; which I think has been lacking
for some time. If it should pass I would expect to see a high turnover
rate for the young and new hire employees.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 April 2010

NoMo

If CSX doesn't renegotiate then they resort back to the national
contract. Nothing lost in fact it could be a plus seeing railroad's
have been making profits. The one issue I disagree with is the
productivity bonus it becomes a matter on gambling a full year on a
possible increase compared to getting pay raises. These bonus payments
are taxed heavily around 30%. Stagnant wages not keeping up with the
inflation rate means a person has to work more not an easy task with
the new HOS laws.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 April 2010

Hey RRJ:

How long have I been gone...I received calls asking me what I thought
of the proposal and should they vote for it? 

I think a lot of them are just to lazy to read it and take the time
necessary to understand it. As usual the younger men will depend on
some one else, the LC or GC to tell them how to vote. It's their job
to sell the members on the proposal.

They don't lose a thing if the proposal is voted down...the UTU and
CSX just go back to the table and, if in fact this is CSX's dream
contract, a better one is negotiated.

It's nice having the luxury of not worrying about such trivial
minutia!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 April 2010

NoMo

They haven't voted it in yet? It'll pass not because people think
it's already a done deal it'll pass because people are to lazy to
send in the ballots. Just like the 2007 BLE/CSX SSA only 51% bothered
to send in ballots in 2009 the numbers were far less only 34%. The rest
will bitch moan and complain. We have always been our own worst enemy by
complacentcy. I truly believe if things were absolutely perfect people
would complain that it isn't fair. I remember a short time span when
CSX treated us pretty good which led a lot of fools to cancel their job
protection insurance. Then like a 2X4 whacked upside their head CSX did
a 180 degree turn and these fools were getting time in the street.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 April 2010

New agreement on CSX southern lines 

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- The UTU and CSX southern lines have reached a
tentative five-year wage agreement, including a performance bonus
package, expanded seniority rights and increased job security, covering
conductors and yard employees on CSX predecessor railroads Atlanta &
West Point; Chesapeake & Ohio; Louisville & Nashville; Nashville,
Chattanooga & St. Louis; and Seaboard Coast Line.

Ratification ballots are being sent to affected members on CSX southern
lines, who will vote under the craft autonomy provisions of the UTU
constitution. Ballots will be counted April 30.

This CSX southern lines tentative agreement was negotiated outside
national handling, with approval of the UTU Association of General
Chairpersons, District 1, and the National Carriers Conference
Committee. 

The tentative agreement, which deals specifically with issues and
circumstances unique to CSX southern lines, was negotiated jointly by
four CSX general chairpersons -- John Hancock (GO 851), Randy Pullen
(GO 025), Jim Townsend (GO 201) and J.R. "Johnny" Willis (GO 513) --
with assistance from UTU International Vice President Robert Kerley and
National Mediation Board mediator Zack Jones. 

The four general chairpersons recognized the "hard work" of Vice
General Chairperson John Whitaker (GO 851) and Assistant General
Chairperson Ed Weathers (GO 513) in helping to negotiate the agreement.


The agreement affects only those members represented by the four, above
listed, general committees of adjustment.

CSX conductors and yard employees covered by this agreement will be
eligible for payments from a performance bonus plan that links a
portion of their compensation to company financial performance. Those
employees will also be eligible for a stock-based individual
performance award program tied to their individual performance, and are
guaranteed wage rates to match rates negotiated in national handling. 

Other provisions of the agreement deal directly with the unique working
conditions and bargaining history on the CSX southern lines, and include
expanded seniority rights, preservation of a conductor or yard foreman
on every train and yard job, and 401(k) retirement benefits in addition
to Railroad Retirement.

UTU International President Mike Futhey praised the general committee
officers and Kerley for their "diligence and patience required to
negotiate this breakthrough tentative agreement."
 
April 6, 2010

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 April 2010

OOOPPPSSSSS  Im bacccckkkkk!  hey i could not stay away, I was waiting
and just under the thin ice that a certain person here was walking on
waiting for him to break through!LOL. He must be looking up some more
Coperate fictions or I mean facts. Hmmm what topic today! Lets see
hmmmmmmm. Ok, who here likes the EMD SD50s or 50-2s who likes the
SD40-2s, SD60I, SD70M or AC or Ace, or even the SD80mac, SD45-2
(rental) or the GP 40-2 38-2 or the little MP-15s?---------------------
  GE men out there???  GE dash 9, AC6000, DASH8, AC4400, ES 40DC,
ES44DC, ES44AC, ES44C4-- whoops BNSF test bed only!  Or the GE 4 axles?
 Which seats are the most comfy to sleep on, stretch out to read or lean
onto your desk top and eat?  Which are best to use as a remote NONE i
bet!LOL.........  SD50-remote or the GP38-remote? or even the little GE
four axle dash remote!LOL. Come on guys you gotta love being out on the
groung and pound all day and night and in all weather! So get ceritfied
and enjoy what us normal working class people have to endure while at
work! wet cold hot and dirty! No more clean cover all's old school ah!
O yea for you conductors who have out grown your seat on the locomotive
time to come off the road and get some PT, becuse its good for you and
its good for me!  Funny almost every CSX conductor you see when
swtiching crews cant even get up the steps hardly there so fat. And all
that food, ice and luggage! WINK WINK the magaziens for study time with
a good cup of coffee. I just watched a CSX conductor spend five minutes
trying to get onto the locomotive with a little push from his engineer!
Also its time to say who controls the train! Is the engineer in charge
or is the conductor in charge!--This should be good a one.  Also come
on raise your hands which one of you road crew guys can walk for more
than 20 feet to the crew van without complaining? Do you prefer
umbreallas or the crew van driver to help you plant your way wide
conductor but onto the seat?   Ok, now give it to me good! I had to
srtike some nerves with this post!  Love ya and God Bless your big ol
but Road condcutors!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 April 2010

nobody is forcing anyone to work there. i have worked for penn
central,conrail,norfolk southern and csx. as much as i enjoyed pc and
conrail,the csx treated me with the most respect. i had good moral
there,the complete opposite of the nazi southern approach. when you
have a good attitude you go the extra mile willingly. the ns was the
only employer i dreaded going to work for,and that is saying
something,i hired out in 1975.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 April 2010

Hope all you guys out there complaining are still enjoying those
retirement checks and any other benefits you get each month.  I
agree with quite a few of the bitch and moans but you gotta know in
your heart most of the hard feelings were brought on by self or some
of your co-workers stiring the pot.  Most people jump to conclusions
and say things before they are proven and while doing so the new hire
is sitting there soaking it all up.  No wonder some of our children
from this (your) generation have the wrong attitude towards life.  
CSX is not perfect by no means and believe me NO one owes you a
living.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 April 2010

Union

I had to laugh at your post it brought back memories. I remember seeing
test trains back in the early '80s where they wanted to try and move
heavy tonnage coal trains on a grade with one locomotive back then the
biggest locomotives were the EMD SD-40 & GE U23C both 3000hp six axles.
They had instructors from the engineer training facility in Cumberland,
Md running out in front of the locomotive hand tossing sand on the rail
for extra traction. One of the stupidest sights I ever witnessed. This
was to try an eliminate pusher engines which 28 years later the pushers
are still working.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 April 2010

Good...maybe now we'll see and end to pro business ruling the Arbs
have been making for years!

   http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=51366

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 April 2010

Engineer for 30 plus yrs thank you for your answer. Sorry for the
questions but hey we only go around once! And I do so enjoy hearing way
cool stories such as yours on the RR. There is actualy several you tube
videos that show CSX trians without proper power stalling out. In one
they had one GE Dash9 on the head end in the mountains and a HUGE
autorack train and it came to a stop and they had to use a little GP38
to shove it over.LOL  In another there is a rather large coal train
with a crew member outside of the cab with grocery bag with sand in it
throwing it on the tracks in front of the lead unit, which was running
open and the engineer was standing outside the cab looking. This is no
way a cut on CSX becuse all RRs have these issues at some point just
sort of funny to watch.  This will be my last post here. i dont want to
get into stupid arguments with people like that Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 April 2010
 So Thank you for the time and may God Bless and watch over you and all
CSX employess past and present. happy trails my friend

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 April 2010

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 April 2010
  

What did you say i cant hear you,,, Um what was that did you say you
have a answer for me????  Did you say you are on the wrong web site? O
yea i get it, you thought you were on the scab rat coward site? Dude my
fault. hey here is a answer for you. You made  repsonse took a postion
now you deserve a answer.  join the military serve your country as me
an engineer for for 30 plus yrs did and then you can grow up and act
like a man instead of hiding behind your key board with mommy making
you cookies and milk little boy.  Now lie to all of us and say you were
in the military, I think not, you just have that coward sort of shy weak
liitle cunt about you sonny.  Whoops I am sorry i bet you are all sweaty
your heart is racing and you are miss typing trying to make a comback.
Slow down on the key board and relax becuse no one cares what you have
to say. Now go play with your Tonka toys

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 April 2010

Union 

I ran all of them they were alright for road power but like your Dad
stated they weren't worth anything in the yard. In fact when the AC
6000's came out I was on a test train in both directions where they
wanted to use one locomotive for a 20,000+ coal train it moved but not
very fast. The second day they wanted us to take coal empties over
territory that had 7% grades it was slow the glitch was it didn't have
moveable trucks so in every curve the locomotive was so big it would
stall on the mountian. Then the arsehole from the CSX power bureau
would start cussing ranting and raving because he had to put another
locomotive online. I'd take a GP30M anyday they usually were assigned
to us for yard switching. Those desk top wide bodies would tear up your
neck and shoulders streaching to look back at the movement. Bad part my
last two years most of the yard foremen I worked with had less than 6
months on the railroad so I couldn't trust them with just the radio.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 April 2010

The last of the furloughed in Louisville have been called back.  Also,
13 cut-backs have been marked back up to Engineer. Progress?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 April 2010

Union,
Hear is a quick answer for you. Go away.

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 April 2010

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 March 2010



 I have a couple of questions for you. Sorry i know this not a
"forum" for RR fun, but to make some light of all this crazyness! Ok,
you said you just retired and it is very clear we will not be able to
exchange info. Anyway Did you like running the CSX AC 6000s? My dad
said he liked them but never did like trying to back up in the yard
with the "big" GEs with the safety cabs? Also did you get a chance to
run the newer EMD SD70ace? I just caught a SD90mac UP by where we live
last week on NS, the crew was way cool! Sorry for the rail fan
questions. My dad told me at one point the yard master tried to make
him switch cars with a "wide body" GE, he said he could not see
around the huge radiator and told the yard master that was it until he
got some yard power like a GP38.  He even would get upset when they
would use "his babys" the TORC engines for coal operations!LOL. he
was like you he did love his job but CSX was not all that friendly to
him, but hey its like anyother job right!  It is sad that i never did
get a chance to work on the RR. But I can play with my HO scale
trains!!!!!LOL, take care and God Bless

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 April 2010

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 March 2010

Goob

You haven't a clue about what you're talking about. Freight cars had
journal boxes which were eventually fazed out by the late '80s. I
don't think you ever worked for the railroad. You act more like a
foamer. They seem to know more about railroading than a railroader. No
disrespect to rail fans. You don't think people got killed on the
railroad? You think one story circulates forever. I wish it was that
easy but it wasn't. Bubba, those cigarettes you sold for a living
killed at lot more people. I think the nurse is looking for you it's
time for your meds.
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Those journal boxes with the flip up oil flaps and wadding were built
way before 1960.

I know people that were killed, worked with 2 of them, never saw them
die, but I did attend the 1st one's funeral. The second one died after
I moved away. I am sure many more were taken by the work.

As stated I heard the same story in the 1960's everyone knew it. might
have happened a million times across the country, who know's. However
your sorry ass was not there.

Just keeping you straight , it seems none of your wives could. Think I
will count all of the times, foamer, Inplant, Co Official, Union
buster, Etc we are now up to a zillion, get a life, and stop trying to
be smarter than your genes will allow. Just remember you were the dummy
that spend 30 at the Beck and Call of the slave driver, not ME.

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 April 2010

Come on now people lets face the truth here! Global warming is FAKE.
There is no global warming. Just watch conspiracy theory with Jesse or
check it out on you tube. The truth is out there. Al Gore is a Billion
air with a capital B. he makes a TON of money off you and me watching
TV and running scared. Answer me this how come people are loosing there
jobs and families and homes in record numbers while those coperations
that went to China ect are making HUGE profits being "green". They
close there company here in the name of global warming and going green
then they move there operations over seas then bring back there
products to a disturbation center which is always non union and with
low paid immagrants and make a huge profit? How many millions of
Americans have lost there jobs becuse of groups like the Sirrea Club
and there money? Thye are lobbying to close and deny permits to open
new coal mines. Thye want coal burining plants shut down, they want
anyone who has a family to loose there home and take the bus to there
burger flipping job. While all the Left wingers are RICH!? Global
warming is only a hot topic when people are sweating and watching the
news in the middle of summer and looking to blame anything on being
hot. The same as those stupid "save" the polar bears shit? Give me a
break out of work actors and shitty hack at trying some BS. The winters
are colder and longer? The ice caps are actualy growing? Polar bears are
doing very WELL and Al Gore is counting his money while in his
S-600!!!!!!!!LOL   Ok, give it too me. Make sure you have proper
research not "fonny" PHD got paid reports

Name: support unions
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for N/A
Posted: 02 April 2010

hey lets not argue anymore on here with uniformed people. I would guess
they are  plants having some fun with people here. Anyway we all know
the truth. As far as unions go i wish people who work for walmart or
home depot or non union companies would stop there wimpering about
unions. Instead of talking bad of unions find your local union that
would provide you with health care, dental, good pay, vacation, sick
time, overtime ect. And by the way i will bet the farm that a coperate
PLANT will come on under a false name and talk trash about me and
unions. UM, what do you think REMOTE engines are for??? It is the next
step in getting rid of RR crews. UM already down to one on the head
end? UP just ran a 3 mile long well car train and got a lot of heat
over it!!?? That is no lie. Thye said they checking on the feasability
of train handling yea right! A three mile train means 3 trains with one
crew! So stop busting balls and for you PLANTS stop selling yourself
short becuse White collar people are loosing there jobs now too.
Sucking ass wont save your job. There are a record number of white
collar people on the unemployment lines also. So selling out your co
worker may not be the "pay upgrade" you are hoping for.

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 April 2010

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 March 2010
 
 
Um dude my father was out there the day that man got coupled you
fucking idiot. Also my dad was working the day the guy got chopped into
little parts you fucking idiot. Locomotive engineer for 30 yrs was not
lying about any of that how can you be such a idiot? Uninformed? There
are a HUGE amount of RRs who gave there lives while at work in the
Toledo area and others. Why would you even say such a stupid thing?
What are you talking about model trains? I am a rail fan but have to
agree with 30 plus yrs there are way to many rial fans who think they
know nothing about RR.  What do you want to talk to the familys of
those people or something?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 April 2010

They talk about lower emissions and the greatness of high speed rail but
there efforts look otherwise.

NEW YORK (AP) -- Railroad operator CSX Corp. spent $1.3 million
lobbying the federal government in the fourth quarter, according to a
disclosure report.

That's even with what it spent in the 2009 third quarter, but up from
the $1.1 million spent in the fourth quarter of 2008.

The company lobbied the U.S. House of Representatives, the U.S. Senate,
the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Homeland
Security, the Department of Transportation and the Department of Energy
on issues including the role of high-speed rail in the stimulus bill,
freight rail projects and other transportation budget allocations.

CSX also lobbied on issues surrounding clean energy jobs, national
energy policy, rail security and antitrust legislation.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 April 2010

Save the Date: CSX Corporation 2010 Investor and Financial Analyst
Conference 

JACKSONVILLE, Fla., March 30, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ --CSX
Corporation (NYSE: CSX) cordially invites you to attend our upcoming
2010 Investor and Financial Analyst Conference. 

CONFERENCE INFORMATION

Date: September 21-22, 2010
Location: Atlanta, Georgia 

The conference will provide you with an opportunity to gain insight
into our company, our strategies, and our long-term financial targets.


A detailed invitation will follow. Registration information will be
available on csx.com.

Should you have any questions regarding the conference, you may send an
email to investor_relations@csx.com, or contact Kathy Sharpe at
904-366-5353. 

About CSX

CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is one of the nation's
leading transportation companies, providing rail, intermodal and
rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network
spans approximately 21,000 miles, with service to 23 eastern states and
the District of Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river and
lake ports. More information about CSX Corporation and its subsidiaries
is available at the company's web site, http://www.csx.com/. 

SOURCE CSX Corporation

Name: wasted my time with the unions
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 March 2010

Man—every man—is an end in himself, not a means to the ends of others;
he must live for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others
nor sacrificing others to himself; he must work for his rational
self-interest, with the achievement of his own happiness as the highest
moral purpose of his life. 

Once you union morons understand this, you will move on with your
lives.

Till then, you will praise Obama, the democrats, and others, that
demean you and your being by accepting the scraps they give you.

Michael Ward understands that!

Honor is self-esteem made visible in action. I am a man who does not
exist for others.

Solidarty my ass!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 March 2010

It seems like something is missing!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 March 2010

Goob

You haven't a clue about what you're talking about. Freight cars had
journal boxes which were eventually fazed out by the late '80s. I
don't think you ever worked for the railroad. You act more like a
foamer. They seem to know more about railroading than a railroader. No
disrespect to rail fans. You don't think people got killed on the
railroad? You think one story circulates forever. I wish it was that
easy but it wasn't. Bubba, those cigarettes you sold for a living
killed at lot more people. I think the nurse is looking for you it's
time for your meds.

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 March 2010

Yes CSX does not list that information.  Your right, but The power
plants here are now using "scubbers" to take care of the "bad little
pollution guys"LOL. And they are now using a mix of coal from diff
mines of diff grades for there power generation needs.  I would have to
actualy see CSX import coal from other places around the world? Wonder
what BNSF the biggest carrier of coal in the entire country would say
about that and also UP????  They are already mining way more than they
need to. Double to triple tracks out west in the powder river basin is
either possible or now happening to keep up. NS exports a lot of coal
also. China will exceed like 400 million tons of steel production next
year while we the "new third world country" will only produce about
70 million tons of steel.  Its a scarry deal now when all these
companys like CSX are worried about there share holders and there
coperate office people will do anything to hold there jobs. One bad
idea after another thats for sure. Geroge Bush fucked this country so
bad that we may never recover with his dads "new world order" try.
THANK GOD FOR our new president. Also it is up to you the union worker
to go out and help your company find work and take action legaly to
stop scabs from places like Kentucky. Myself I am union and go out and
look for work all the time for any other union if i see it I report
scabs! It is time for us to all love jimmy Hoffa! After all unions are
what makes us as  a country strong and great not scab rats. DO NOT just
sit back like those UAW idiots and expect 74 dollars an hour including
benifits and getting paid to stay home ect. The UAW has hurt the nrth
real bad and a lot of kids are being brain washed that unions are bad
becuse of what the UAW has done, bunch of greedy slobs who say they
have a aprenticship and jurneyman to go through! Stick together and we
can recover and become great again. Workers rights first trees and tree
huggers last

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 March 2010

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 March 2010

Goob

I couldn't make that up if I wanted to. I'm glad to see you back to
your old curmudgeon self.
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HA HA I heard the same story in the 60's (the coupled up trainman),
the wife, the Preacher all of it. As far as the roller bearings they
were on most everything, and all new equipment made in the 60's had
them. The only new cars that I ever saw built on Journal boxes were L&N
Cabooses! oh they had 1 with roller bearnings it was number 1000.
and the part about radios once again just BS. Man ya got to tell it
right to keep me quiet.

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 March 2010

Name: edmund
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 March 2010

 
 
WOWA!?!?!?  What the Fu''''!  Dude are you drunk or just on drugs
or what!? WOW!  Ok, I am a bit confused here on what you want and need?
Or are you a Coperate plant?  LOL kind of funny though. You sound like
you come from the hills of non union scab ass Kentucky. The SCAB state.
 Kentucky stands for RAT!  Workers from Kentuckty try to flood into the
north by the thousands and take union jobs, They are drunks, like
hookers, acting like un educated hillbillys and do real bad unsafe work
for very cheap right wing republican companys looking to back door
unions.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 March 2010

Slack Action

CSX doesn't list owning any coal mines in it's annual report. The
coal CSX is hauling is mainly going to China for steel production. From
what I was told from good sources at the CSX piers in Newport News it's
going to be a record breaking year. Seeing I've been gone for 9 months
there were rumors last year that power plants were going to start
importing cheaper coal from overseas. CSX was still going to haul it
this time from ship to customer instead of out of the mines. Either way
CSX makes money. But like anything else with outsourcing the savings
won't trickle down to the consumer.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 March 2010

It is MAYBE... not mabey.... AND NOMO is correct... CSX does not own
coal companies...They transport it, just like barge companies...That is
why they are called carriers...Truck companies transport cars they do
not make them...

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 March 2010

A letter to:   

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 March 2010


Dude you have a serious problem. it sounds like you have some personel
issues mabey you should go to church or seek counseling? Mabey find the
good lord in your heart. Also try getting your GED becuse that could
possibly help you out. I would hope you do not work on the RR becuse
that is a tuff out door sport! You sound like a key boarder.  I guess
my education of your coal knowledge has helped you out. Take care and
make sure you change your diaper more than once a day becuse I can
smell your stink all the way here. And stop bottle feeding you are to
old for that, well mabey not. By the way do you like your desk job?
hmmmmmmmmmmm  light bulb go's on.

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 March 2010

Locomotive engineer for 30 plus yrs.     (((A retarded tower operater
named Caputo forgot to line a
switch for a cut of coal it went into the wrong track on top of the
track Cunningham was riding. It was another tragidy. C&O covered it. I
don't think they even held an investigation on the tower operator
seeing he was a good ole'boy worked tower operator, yardmaster, and I
think assistant trainmaster at times. It made a person think about
what
your life was worth to these people.)))  My dad said he ran into this
person recently and he retired after a good 30 years or so. It sounded
like he did not even think twice about Cunningham and what he did that
day. He said he had a great carrear at CSX. I know myself I could not
handle that even if it were accidental. There was another
brakeman-conductor? Not sure which one or a switchman? out there who
also had a problem with substance abuse. My dad was working with this
guy one day when he got pulled and tested. Of course this person got
nailed and suspended for a long time or something. But the funny thing
is that i was lifting at the gym with One Conrail friend ( who was
killed after his road train run into the back of another train, sorry I
dont like to talk about it) and one NS friend and this guy who got
suspended came into the gym with his fat slob self and started running
his mouth about my father and said he would whoop some ass ect. You
know the big fat bully type. Well i walked up to him and he gave me the
I will kick your ass shit and well lest just say my friends had to help
him up after he "woke up" and to the hospital. I got into a little
hot water but he never came back to the gym. My only regret was that my
hand hurt for like two weeks real bad.LOL. I do wish we could meet in
person and talk. I love talking to RRs who like there jobs and have
much to share. I have a lot of respect for you both as a person and a
RR. You seem to have loyalty courage and hounor which is rare today.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 March 2010

Union

I'm sorry to hear about Danny's problems. When I knew him he barely
drank anything. Danny and his wife would take me to the Toledo
Goldiggers games at the Sports Arena they were big fans with season
tickets. He was married to a beautiful woman which I heard she left him
some years ago. He wouldn't be the first man to crack from a broken
heart and sink into a bottle. Back when I worked with Danny he was a
good engineer.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 March 2010

Hey Union:

I don't need to make anyone look bad, especially you...you're doing
doing a fine job all by yourself!

Now crawl back into your hole for another 3 or 4 months.

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 March 2010

Egineer for 30 plus yrs.  Sorry for that out burst but that guy is a
balls buster and a hater. And yes my dad did know the man you asked me
about. He is still around but it sounded like he had  adrinking problem
and did not work much and was not a good RR. Sorry but thats all he will
say. I hope you can find him and he is doing much better. God BLess him
and give him the strength to get better if need be. God watches over
all of us and right now he asked me to fill in for him and educate
Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 March 2010
For him LOL LOL sorry could not resist that one. And I do appoligise to
all good union workers on here for haing to educate this idiot hater
Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 March 2010
ake care and god bless

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 March 2010

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 March 2010
  Did You get enough Education there SCAB PLANT! I bet you are a scab
or a plant to make people look bad. Too bad you are doing a terrible
job of it you fucking idiot hater. There is nothing worse than a retard
like you trying to talk out of his ass about issues he knows nothing
about. I can get a chalk board and a picture book next time for you
SCAB. There is no way you are union so go away and take your views with
you. I have been nothing but nice to everyone here but you are are a
real pisser a little bitch on the key board. I bet you hate unions and
have never served a day in the military. And yes I have served and yes
I LOVE FUCKING UNIONS! So go suck on that MR. I am not going to educate
you any further. They say you cannot educate the educated but in your
case you are a grade school drop out with high hopes of kissing ass and
making it in the coperate world. You have made yourself look like a
freaking jerk off on here! O man you are the dumb ass person i have
ever had the displeasure of communicating with. I hope my below article
JUST FOR YOU helps you out with your idelogicaly challanged ( no bassis
views) Time for you to go back to grade school buddy. You probably
tried to work for a union and could not take actualy having to do work
safely and correctly.  NOW DO EVERYONE A FAV HERE AND GO KISS SOME
ENVIROMENTALIST ASS.   O yea and your CSX is a business!!?!?! O shit
that is the lamest and oldest BS cover story ever tried to make some
idiot like you look smart. BYE BYE Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 March 2010

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 March 2010

DONT PISS DOWN MY BACK AND TELL ME IT IS RAINING, BY THE WAY DO YOU WORK
FOR CSX COPERATE OFFICES?   it is said that sector of CSX's businesses
was looking better after China put in an order for over 5 million tons
of U.S. metallurgical coal. The growing Asian power used to export coal
but now has to import it to fuel its building and industrial boom, said
Ward.   JACKSONVILLE, Fla., June 24 /PRNewswire/ -- CSX Transportation,
Inc. (NYSENYSE

See: New York Stock Exchange 
..... Click the link for more information.: CSXCSX Chessie Seaboard
Multiplier (railroad transportation company)
CSX Cayman Islands Stock Exchange
CSX Changsha, China (Airport Code)
CSX Cardiac-Specific Homeobox
CSX Seaboard Coastline Railroad 
..... Click the link for more information.) today announced that it is
combining the operations of the Bayside Coal Piers with its Curtis Bay
Coal and Ore Piers. The CSXT-combined operation will be named the
Chesapeake Bay Piers. 

"For the first time in several years, customers will benefit from a
CSXT- operated coal export pier located in the Curtis Bay area," said
Daniel S. Green, general manager-Cumberland Coal Business Unit.
"Combining these facilities into one will provide us with the ability
to better serve both the domestic and export coal markets. Electric
utilities that receive coal by water will benefit, such as Baltimore
Gas & Electric and Public Service Electric and Gas of New Jersey, as
well as international customers utilizing Cape-class ocean-going
vessels." Now Mr.,,  CSX was down by 22% as the largest transporter of
coal east of the missiippii. With 130 facilities in 9 diff states. CSX
shipped 14% less coal and there is 20 million tons on the ground as a
result CSX will ship 4,000 or 5,0000 car loads less a week. 
Appalachian coal (met varieties) economic and regulatory ie left wing
sirrea club and tree huggers are hurting these mines bad.  The weak
American Dollar has made EXPORT COAL attractive to EXPORT buyers and
more will move out of the United sates you fucking idiot. With some of
the worlds highest MET coal being shipped to China from West Virginia
ie EXPORT! EPA, Sirrea club and enviormentalist are openly using there
money to ruin our coal haul here. While still raking in the profits off
EXPORT COAL. Peat, considered to be a precursor of coal, has industrial
importance as a fuel in some regions, for example, Ireland and Finland.
In its dehydrated form, peat is a highly effective absorbent for fuel
and oil spills on land and water
Lignite, also referred to as brown coal, is the lowest rank of coal and
used almost exclusively as fuel for electric power generation. Jet is a
compact form of lignite that is sometimes polished and has been used as
an ornamental stone since the Iron Age
Sub-bituminous coal, whose properties range from those of lignite to
those of bituminous coal are used primarily as fuel for steam-electric
power generation. Additionally, it is an important source of light
aromatic hydrocarbons for the chemical synthesis industry.
Bituminous coal, dense mineral, black but sometimes dark brown, often
with well-defined bands of bright and dull material, used primarily as
fuel in steam-electric power generation, with substantial quantities
also used for heat and power applications in manufacturing and to make
coke
Steam coal is a grade between bituminous coal and anthracite, once
widely used as a fuel for steam locomotives. In this specialized use it
is sometimes known as sea-coal in the U.S.[2] Small steam coal (dry
small steam nuts or DSSN) was used as a fuel for domestic water
heating
Anthracite, the highest rank; a harder, glossy, black coal used
primarily for residential and commercial space heating. It may be
divided further into metamorphically altered bituminous coal and
petrified oil, as from the deposits in Pennsylvania
Graphite, technically the highest rank, but difficult to ignite and is
not so commonly used as fuel: it is mostly used in pencils and, when
powdered, as a lubricant.
The classification of coal is generally based on the content of
volatiles. However, the exact classification varies between countries.
According to the German classification, coal is classified as
follows:[3]

Name Volatiles % C Carbon % H Hydrogen % O Oxygen % S Sulfur % Heat
content kJ/kg 
Braunkohle (Lignite) 45-65 60-75 6.0-5.8 34-17 0.5-3 <28470 
Flammkohle (Flame coal) 40-45 75-82 6.0-5.8 >9.8 ~1 <32870 
Gasflammkohle (Gas flame coal) 35-40 82-85 5.8-5.6 9.8-7.3 ~1 <33910 
Gaskohle (Gas coal) 28-35 85-87.5 5.6-5.0 7.3-4.5 ~1 <34960 
Fettkohle (Fat coal) 19-28 87.5-89.5 5.0-4.5 4.5-3.2 ~1 <35380 
Esskohle (Forge coal) 14-19 89.5-90.5 4.5-4.0 3.2-2.8 ~1 <35380 
Magerkohle (Non baking coal) 10-14 90.5-91.5 4.0-3.75 2.8-3.5 ~1 35380

Anthrazit (Anthracite) 7-12 >91.5 <3.75 <2.5 ~1 <35300 
Percent by weight 

The middle six grades in the table represent a progressive transition
from the English-language sub-bituminous to bituminous coal, while the
last class is an approximate equivalent to anthracite, but more
inclusive (the U.S. anthracite has < 6% volatiles).

Cannel coal (sometimes called "candle coal"), is a variety of
fine-grained, high-rank coal with significant hydrogen content. It
consists primarily of "exinite" macerals, now termed "liptinite". 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal) WORK SITED LIST. Thank you.  Now to
further your education idiot. PICK UP A COPY OF TRAINS MAGAZIENE AND
READ IT THIS MONTH! OR GO BUY THE NEW BOOK COAL TRAINS THE HISTORY OF
RR AND COAL IN THE UNITED STATES. Furthermore as for the union thing
Unions have not "prices themselves out of work" moron. Unions have
and are making a comback. Ok, say you work for walmart sure they give
benifits and offer medical coverage! But wait no employee can afford it
even when they do offer it. Unions give this to there memmbers. Unions
use target money to help compete with scab companys from down South.
Unions offer family values and family love. Unions take care of one
another. So mabey the likes of the UAW are a bunch of cry babys who
have hurt all unions, but still that is why former president George I
hate unions and American familys if they are not rich right wing Bush
used the DOL to try and bust out unions and gave them LOTS of extra
money to do so. Fuck these idiots out there who hate on unions they are
the "right wing" ass kisesers who go to a "unsafe" work enviorment
everyday and do shitty non union work, so go fuck off. My entire family
is pro union and we love and serve our great country so dont split hairs
with me MR. SCABS are always trying to put "ideas" into kids heads
that unions are bad NO CHANCE! The union members who hate unions are
the fucking retards who cry baby becuse they dont want to have to
contribute there share of the work. JIMMY HOFFA is my hero. RR-
teamstaers and the good they have done for the RR workers.  So stop
union busting fuck head.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 March 2010

Hey Union:

CSX is a railroad...they move products and commodities from point A to
point B, CSX doesn't export or import anything. The McDuffie Coal
Terminal in Mobile is the the nations largest import terminal. In 2008
they handled 18.5 million tons in/out.

You can research coal should you wish. "Dirty" coal is high in
sulfur, "clean" coal is low in sulfur. The dirtier the coal the more
expensive it is to mitigate.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 March 2010

Hey Con 30+:

Yeah...you know your right. Plenty of blame to go around, the unions
have priced themselves out of work. The politicians cave for union
votes and corporate money and we consume conspicuously.

The excuse Nike used when they moved their manufacturing to China was
production costs would be dramatically reduced; which you would think
should reduce the price the consumer paid for their product. It did
not. It's the same with Ford, Boeing and all the rest of the
manufactures big and small. What did we get in return besides a Honda
and Toyota plant or two...that's NAFTA and GATT, the great enabler of
corporate greed. I can cite several more prime examples...
Lehman Bros. and Goldman Sachs. I don't have to tell you what their
greed led to.

The $1,000 lump sum the UTU/CSX SSA is offering isn't much of a raise
in comparison to what those guys got and you do 100x the work!

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 March 2010

Um, sorry yes CSX does export tons of coal just as does NS. thats a
historical fact. Where did you get the information that CSX imports
clean coal?  I think what you ment to say was CSX gets Powder River
Basin coal trains mabey? Low sulfer? I never herd of "clean" coal
being imported into the US? And its more like 20 yrs left on the coal
front unless the tree huggers can be stopped. there are vast reserves
of coal and dead dinosaurs (oil) to be had but we have to be able to
extract it first. I am in no way showing you disrespect or disagreeing
with you. I was just out to the local power plant today hanging out
with a NS crew while they switched in the coal train, which comes from
jacobs ranch in Wyoming (powder river basin coal) I was not actauly on
the engine, more like close and video'ing it! And the wife was taking
pictures. It was funny as shit becuse the crew was way cool , the
engineer told the conductor to smile for me and he said he was under
cover! And the engineer hid behind the door! NS has some way cool train
crews. We always stay far back and dont interfer with RR work. And as
far as CSX coal yes its is down 22 percent. The high sulfer coal from
the mines in Virginia and kentucky ect are loosing there buts right
now. And yes you can thank the tree huggers and EPA for that. Do some
reaserch they are trying to stop permits for new mines close open mines
ect. its historical fact. Also look at the former Soviet Uniuon. WOW so
much natural resources! jsut like china and that is also a historicl
fact. Those countries are way bigger then us. Broke up and crappy
commies.  BNSF hit the lotto right now with powder river basin coal,
just look how many trains a day leave there! As does UP.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 March 2010

If you want to blame NAFTA and GATT go ahead, but add the UAW, AFL CIO,
UTU BLE  Dems and Republicans and yourself. Do you drive? Use
electricity at home, complain about greedy corporate America at the
same time you greedily wait your next raise?

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 March 2010

Hey Union:

CSX doesn't export anything. If it wasn't for the export market
CSX's coal business would be down a lot more than 22%. You also need
to remember that for every 2 cars of "dirty" coal that is exported,
1 car of "clean" coal is imported.

As far as the tree huggers waiting for us to run out of coal...it'll
be a long wait, something like 250 years. Personally, I prefer clean
air to breath. Perhaps you're old enough to remember Acid Rain,
Cleveland's lake front on fire, Love Canal or the smog in Beijing
during the Olympics. Anything the EPA can do to rein in the greedy
bastards that run Corporate America and keep them from killing us,
should be applauded.

You can thank NAFTA and GATT for exporting our jobs overseas. Don't
worry though, in 50 or 100 years when the rest of the world exceeds our
standard of living, all those jobs will migrate back!

Name: union
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 March 2010

I have herd that CSX's coal business is down 22%. It sucks becuse CSX
is exporting coal and ore to other countries like we are some third
world country ourselves. they buy it from us very cheap. CSXs ore
business I am not sure but I do know that a lot of the traditional ore
haulers are loosing there buts right now. China has more ore than any
other country and other natural resources. What they are doing is
waiting for us to run our of coal. Now the Tree huggers and the Sirrea
Club and our wonderful EPA are putting the screws to coal mines in the
south and southeast ect. They want "clean" coal but get this the
electric plants are placing scrubbers in there plantes to get rid of
the emmisions ie pollution but the left wing tree huggers are still
using there AL GORE money and power to ruin thousands of American jobs
including way way to many RR jobs. There is even a coke plant to go up
in the state of OHIO but the left wing EPA and sirrea club keep suing
them in court and holding it up! the plant will cost around 800 million
and have zero pollution almost. A certain person in oregon ohio has lead
the way but she is rich and owns slum propertys and a company, she does
not want her back yard LOL getting dirty!LOL. Now GE and EMD are split
evenly between China with a order of 600 locomotives in the 6000 horse
power range. BUT guess what CHINA is building them! Who makes the money
now! CHINA and GE and EMD can take the profit and lay off even more
people probably. I will bet GE and EMD are looking into taking there
operations to CHINA as the ministiry of rail there wants it! Our RRs
have become way dependent on "walmart" container trains from China
ie' well cars. As of now China owns us. The only good news is that the
DOL is not the thugs they were under president Bush! There power is less
for "union busting". thank god for our new pres! its slow but is
getting alittle better. Also CSX is the only RR right now all 117 CSX
AC6000s will get new "evolution series GEVO-16 engines. So all you
engineers can still play notch 8 is great LOL.  6000horse power with
HUGE bat wing radiators that you cannot see around to back up. AH tier
2 emmisions! Soon the radiators will be so wide you RR engineers will
have to have BMW make you guys back up cameras! Or mabey they are going
to develope them to fly!

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 March 2010

Goob

I couldn't make that up if I wanted to. I'm glad to see you back to
your old curmudgeon self.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 March 2010

CSX CEO's compensation tops $7M 
NEW YORK -- The Associated Press has found that the chairman, president
and CEO of railroad operator CSX Corp. saw his total compensation fall 4
percent last year from the year before. 
Michael J. Ward's compensation was just over $7 million last year,
compared with $7.3 million in 2008. 

CSX's full-year earnings fell 16 percent to $1.15 billion as the
recession crimped demand for a number of goods the railroad hauls.
Revenue for 2009 dropped 20 percent to $9.04 billion. 

The AP's executive pay calculation, based on a regulatory filing, aims
to isolate the value the company's board placed on the CEO's total
compensation package. The figure includes salary, bonus, incentives,
perks and the estimated value of stock options and awards. 

(The preceding article was distributed March 25, 2010, by the
Associated Press.0

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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 March 2010

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 March 2010

I was the switchmen on the job in Yard D when the fieldman was coupled
up that was in 1978. I found him in between to high cube boxcars. The
yard foreman sent me out because he was taking to long to get the
track
together. We didn't have hand held radios back then everything was
done
by fuses with hand signals. We had to seperate all the yard tracks so
the EMS could get to him. He was still alive they called his wife and
his preacher. He wasn't in any pain because his spine was crushed.
After everything was done the trainmaster wanted me to pull the pin I
told him to go screw himself that was his job. About a week later same
job I knew what happened. I was coupling up a yard track midnight
shift
high cubed boxcars and auto racks were the first to come out with
roller
bearings instead of journal boxes they were quiet. They also had swing
arm drawheads a coupling didn't make I watched the cars come to a
stop
with my lantern. I went in to line up the drawheads when something
told
me to move. I step over the rail and heard a click the cars silently
rolled back if I wouldn't of moved it would of happened to me. It's
a
day that I'll always remember.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
This post is pure BS. old wives tale. Radio's were everywhere during
these years. Roller Bearings are ya kidding Timken had them on STEAM.
Sounds good but really Bull Shit with a cap on B.

Name: union
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 March 2010

Yea I am a bit worried though becuse not only did my dad retire also two
uncles recently retired from CSX both Conductors i think, originaly
conrail guys.  I was just listening to the scanner the other night at
4am aftre work and some trainmaster sounded pissed that there was 4
people on the Q506 I always try to catch it and take pictures. i think
the crews are a bit like what the hell some crazy ass rail fan out in
the cold at 4am! My dad says I am nuts for doing that but hey outside
of whatever I am 5'11 250 covered in tats and weight lift and trained
for yrs in hand to hand combat so i dont worry much. Besides i grew up
next to the projects so i am pretty dumb about personel safety!LOL 
OPPS now CSX will know what i look like!  I also know a lot of you guys
are right about the trnasfers from other regions of the RRs and bumping
guys off there jobs becuse of senority. I am a union worker and
supporter and we dont play those games. There is always some guy out at
CSX from somewhere asking where and what to do on the radio. Shit right
before my dad retired he had a "trainy" engineer (if thats what you
call it) and the guy tried to boss him around and dad said he just let
him have at it and he built and entire train backwards, so the next day
there was hell to pay but my dad in his grace told the man to stick it
and talk to his student conductor or engineer or whatever you call
them.  Anyway God Bless all of you and may he grant you safe work and
bring you home safe to your familys

Name: 
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 March 2010

Must be a terrific place to work... especially if you work with people
like Industrial Yardmaster Don Furnish... I love his honesty and
sincerity.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 March 2010

Hey Union:

Your Dad is is retired, CSX can't touch you or your Dad. However,
should you still crave anonymity you can always open a CSX-Sucks.com
email account:

                  http://csx-sucks.com/mail/

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 March 2010

I gave hima call today. i will let you know tonight after I talk to him.
 Too bad we could not exchange e-mail without CSX prying eyes! I have a
boat load of pictures you would like. Thats funny becuse my dad never
even tried to get me on the RR!  O well no bitter feelings against him.
he was very popular out there. Too bad i would have run circles around
him.  LOL

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 March 2010

Union

If you don't mind could you ask your father about an engineer named
Danny Douge. I tried to find Danny over the years but with the change
of the names of seniority rosters ect...I never could locate him. Danny
was one person who I became friends with in Walbridge. He had one of the
biggest collections of original Blue's LP's I've ever seen.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 March 2010

Union

I don't think your father would remember me. My time in Walbridge was
short only three years 1977-1980 then I transferred down to Virginia. I
didn't get to know a lot of my co-workers back then if you got hired in
Walbridge without having family working on the railroad they sort of
ostracized a person. I was hired because I was a Vietnam veteran a lot
of my co-workers didn't like that fact. I worked the extra board and
bounced around alot and those skatemen jobs. Walbridge was a huge place
back in those days. Six months after transferring to Virginia I went
into engine service. I got a letter from Walbridge wanting me to take
promotion to conductor in late 1980 even though I was furloughed up
there. I went to Walbridge talked to the Terminal Manager I think his
name was Andy Browning I explained about transferring on the C&O to
Virginia and going into engine service he threatened me an I politely
told him to shove it where the sun doesn't shine. They finally
stripped me of my seniority in Walbridge in 1981. Walbridge gave me my
start on the railroad but Virginia made me feel part of the railroad.

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 March 2010

LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER FOR 30PLUS YRS.   Thank you for being so kind and
taking the time to explain many things I did not understand. You sir
are a true Gentelmen.  We are all realated here in the RR industry
family we are! just becuse I am not a RR does not mean it does not
course through my viens. Its in the DNA! My dad and two uncles worked
for CSX.  My dad C&O to CSX and my uncles Conrail to CSX. And one Uncle
before my time with Steam era senority. Locomotive engineer with 30 plus
yrs you have even brought back memories to my father which he wants to
know who you are. Him and the retired guys get together every week. Of
course my dad refused to get me a job on the RR he is sort of a selfish
jerk. Its sounds like you would have been a way cool dad. I went onto
other things such as the military , college, and four certs ect, but my
heart will always be for the RRs of our great country. God Bless you and
may he grant you and your family good fortune. (-:

Name: union
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 March 2010

UM Locomotive engineer 10-20yrs try reading the post they are about RR
safety ect. READ it does not hurt. We are talking about CSX issues
here, mabey you cant read or need some glasses>?  "stay on topic" UM,
intresting point to make try doing what one says. God Bless.

Name: Union
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 March 2010

WOW! Again my dad was out there that day too. He was bringing in a train
and got the call that cunningham had just got it. My dad said he was a
big guy and drove a corvette. he said it sat by the shannty for like 4
months before someone came and got it? He said that he just talked too
caputo recently. He even told me he talked to a switchmen or someone
who was standing in a door way when the cut of cars came rolling by
with him under it being chopped up scremaning or something to that
asspect of it. I guess the guy screamed for a second or something liek
that dad does not like to talk about it.  CSX sure does seem to have a
bad history of people getting hurt and worse. Just go onto you tube and
there are a lot of pictures of CSX derailments and very bad track ect. A
lot of rail fans have been treated badly by them including myself. It
does not appear that many people enjoy working for them either. I am
sure there are those who loved there job also.  I was thinking that
someday CSX would put no tresspassing signs on every street where a
train crosses the tracks LOL! As I said before dont bother going to
oregon OH anywhere near the coal and TORC area, hell they will have BP
security after you just for stopping on a public road. Which is a
violation of our Constitutional rights. People should know that CSX
police cannot give tresspass warnings ect on public roads. And there
officials are not GODs and cannot viloate peoples rights to rail fan on
public property. It appears there is a grass roots rail fan "for
there" rights deal going on all over now.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 March 2010

The 2010 Proxy material and 2009 Annual Report are available for
review.

    http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-proxy

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 March 2010

Union

Railroad has had more than it's fair share of tragidy. I'm sure your
father would remember a skatemen named Cunningham he worked the 2nd
shift Interchange skate job for years. That day I was working 2nd shift
at the 34/57 skate job at the westend switcher shack. We would ride
clear alleys off the hump catching them after they went over the
retarders. It was a great job for a young man to hold during late
spring till the early fall seeing no oldhead wanted it because it was
dangerous. The Interchange skate was less hectic it did mostly larger
cuts of coal the 34/57 was all manifest boxcars, tankers, covered
hoppers ect.... A retarded tower operater named Caputo forgot to line a
switch for a cut of coal it went into the wrong track on top of the
track Cunningham was riding. It was another tragidy. C&O covered it. I
don't think they even held an investigation on the tower operator
seeing he was a good ole'boy worked tower operator, yardmaster, and I
think assistant trainmaster at times. It made a person think about what
your life was worth to these people. The biggest thing I preached to new
hires was it only takes a second for bad to happen that metal is
unforgiving. Check, recheck, do it a third time if need be, but be safe
go home to your family live a long life.

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 March 2010

LE 10-20

Quit bitching and post something. Your post was neither coutious or
professional.

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 March 2010

thats crazy! I talked to my dad tonight and he wants to know who you
are, but I told him no one uses names here.  And he did tell me that
was only one of many people who lost there lives out there. And he said
he just went to another funeral for another RR. You probably know many
of these men yourself. Dad said that the yardmaster that day wanted
work to get underway right away but no one would do anything until the
rest of his body was cleaned up or at least what was left of it. It
sounded like the RR officials  did not care what happened as long as
they were making money for coperate HQ. CSX just had a 113 coal cars go
over a mountain last month after the snow storms. I am sure that they
will try to blame the train crew. They tried to hang my dad more than
once. Its like the ore and coal exports to other countries it makes us
look like some third world country. They buy our products cheaper than
dirt. I am sure CSX makes a huge profit off of this method. It does
bother me becuse CSX is my fav RR. I model it in HO sclae and love to
watch and take pictures of CSX. They could be a way cool RR if they
were just a little nicer to people. Sometimes I think people in this
country who are in Coperate positions forget there American roots and
what a great place this is to live or at least was. I was in the Army
and my son is in the army as a matter of fact we have served in the
military all the way from the civil war to present day. Too many
coperate people do not serve there country or even care they just want
others to do for them then they go to there Catholic church on sundays
give a few bucks in the basket and our forgiven? So I take it you and
my dad must have seen each other the day that RR passed away, becuse he
was right there too. I hope God can bless you not to have to think about
things like that and watch over that guys family and all of the other RR
who have lost there lives in the line of duty.  God Bless

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 March 2010

Every time I read comments on this site, I find stories that have
nothing to do with the topic.  This topic is supposed to be about
Courtesy and Proffessionalism CSX Style.  I'm seeing conversations
about everything but Courtesy and Proffessionalism, Safety First,
Denied Claims, etc.  Can't we stay on topic?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 March 2010

I was the switchmen on the job in Yard D when the fieldman was coupled
up that was in 1978. I found him in between to high cube boxcars. The
yard foreman sent me out because he was taking to long to get the track
together. We didn't have hand held radios back then everything was done
by fuses with hand signals. We had to seperate all the yard tracks so
the EMS could get to him. He was still alive they called his wife and
his preacher. He wasn't in any pain because his spine was crushed.
After everything was done the trainmaster wanted me to pull the pin I
told him to go screw himself that was his job. About a week later same
job I knew what happened. I was coupling up a yard track midnight shift
high cubed boxcars and auto racks were the first to come out with roller
bearings instead of journal boxes they were quiet. They also had swing
arm drawheads a coupling didn't make I watched the cars come to a stop
with my lantern. I went in to line up the drawheads when something told
me to move. I step over the rail and heard a click the cars silently
rolled back if I wouldn't of moved it would of happened to me. It's a
day that I'll always remember.

Name: union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 March 2010

Yes my dad was out there during the blizzard also. He was a engineer so
i am sure you guys new each other. Well he was a fireman back then.
Today all of his friends he worked with are passing away now. He go's
to a funeral about once every three weeks. Even all of his friends that
i weight lifted with are have either passed on or are in nursing homes
dying. Man he told me stories about guys getting killed while on the
job back in the late 60's and  70's that would make your hair stand
on end! Real bad stuff. I cant imagine how many men were killed while
on the job in accidents. Coupled, run over by trains, falling off,
heart attacks, severed limbs, broken bones you name it. I have lost all
of the RRs I weight lifted with now. They have all passed on. It is too
bad that CSX does not place a place of hounor and respect for all of
the familys who lost love ones while on the job there. I even remmeber
one story about a guy who got coupled and they called his wife he
passed a short time later. My dad was within eye site of it! He would
not go down there thoe  to sad to see. God BLess all of those RRs who
have passed on or lossed there lives while on duty. They say RRs are
cursed when they retire becuse they work so much and so many hours that
they cannot function outside of the RR enviorment after retirment.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 March 2010

I stopped in at Walbridge yard in 2007. It definitely didn't look the
same. I noticed the yardmaster had several screens monitoring the
cameras. When CSX took over half of Conrail I knew either Walbridge or
Stanley was going to take a hit. Walbridge was definitely a better
yard. I took plenty of trains to Stanley in the '70s. Got stuck over
there during the blizzard of '78 for almost 24 hours before the C&O
could get to us.

Name: Union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 March 2010

Yes he retired several yrs ago. I dont want to say the exact date on
this web site, but he did love his job in the later years as he was
number two on the senority board. Today Walbiradge is a very different
place.  They use it for auto rack storage and "thru" trains. They
tore down the old brick as my dad called it. Crew place?  And most of
the buildings are now gone. Also the Hump is vacant and no longer in
use. It is very sad I remmeber when i was a kid going out to work with
him and it was booming with trains now itsa a ghost town. Most of the
trains go to the stanley puller job as dad called it. Stanley is full
of trains all of the time. Funny Walbiradge has a much nicer and bigger
tracks than Stanley yard, but hey the higher ups do what they want. Thye
are now working hard to get a lot of trains out through Perrysburg OH
and onto Deshler. They are putting up new gates and getting ready to
shut down streets. I would love to go out and watch trains leaving the
walbidage yard but no such a chance. Thye have freakin cameras
everywhere and they think they own every street they go by. I swear CSX
must spend a fortune on CSX no tressapsing signs. They are a bunch of
goons. I dont and wont go into details but I also had two uncles now
retired from CSX who were not all that happy with there treatment
either.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 March 2010

Union

I left Walbridge in 1980 when the auto industry took a dump transfered
to Virginia. In 1980 there weren't any warning signs. I remember
getting recalled from winter furlough went to Fostoria to work for two
weeks which was normal then was furloughed again. I tried working out
of Columbus excersizing my rights on the Hocking Division that didn't
last long. I don't regret tranferring coal business was booming in
Virginia. Most of those who came down here were from Michigan only
three of us came from Walbridge. I take it your father is now retired.
I just retired two weeks ago.

Name: Union
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 March 2010

Very interesting. 30 plus yrs.  My dad had 35 plus yrs. He also worked
out of Walbridge OH. And yes you are right as soon as the docs shut
down for the winter he got laid off. Also I am not sure but it appears
that the TORC facility is not doing so good right now. All of the Ore
is gone. It was piled up just a few months back? Both of the TORC
locomotives are working out of Stanley switching, of course all but a
couple jobs are remote now. I am not a fan of remote engines. Just
today a CN train was stuck on Vickers and the yard master said he could
get them a push from behind? Some days CSX has decent power and some
days they have a lot of old beat up engines. As soon as the "ore and
coal boats start coming in it will hopefully pick back up. I love ore
trains! Nothing like a old school SD40-2 set pulling a ore train or a
coal train, but mostly GEs or SD70s. Take care

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 March 2010

The Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen BLE(T) are
affiliated with the Teamsters (IBT). What your father went thru was
common during the his early years on the railroad. He wasn't a
seasonal worker no such thing on the railroad. The closes thing that
could be classified seasonal years ago they would hire during the
summer rail gangs mostly college students who lived on camp cars
traveled around the system replacing tyes and rail. I started
railroading on the C&O out of Walbridge Ohio it was the severe winters
that furloughed us back then when the lake freighters on Lake Erie shut
down no winter navigation that was 35% of our business. Bumping during
the slack months was and still is common some places it took 10-12
years of seniority to hold a job year round.

Name: UNION
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 March 2010

Hey guys I was just wondering in Ohio there is the Teamsters for RR
employess for CSX I believe. My dad spent many yrs working for C&O to
CSX and got laid off all of the time when I was a kid. It was terrible!
We would starve and he would go out onto the road and work when he
could. I think they were considered "seasonal" employess back then?
Nothing beats standing in line with your dad trying to get food stamps
while other guys were countinf "fat" pay checks all winter long. 
Unions are a God send when they are out for workers rights. Too bad
someone can "bump" you off the board and take your job as they pleae.
O man did my dad get that often. He would be wroking a job and bam
"where would the next food on the table come from".  There are many
godd unions out there. And the Teamsters is one of them. God Bless all
of you and may he watch over and protect you on the job.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 March 2010

Hey RRJ:

I don't understand why the UTU represents pilots and bus drivers
either except maybe they're in transportation. Sheetmetal workers are
a real stretch...I think I read somewhere that since sheetmetal workers
build and repair passenger cars, the union considers sheetmetal a RR
trade.

I don't think anyone, whether they are an engine or ground service,
would disagree that there should be one union for the operating
personnel. Over the years both unions have been corrupted by greed and
ego; which is why there wasn't a merger between them. I'm afraid
it's too late now to change the course!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 March 2010

NoMo

That merger was puzzling. What do trainmen and sheetmetal workers have
in common? There is no common bond. There could of been a merger
between the BLE & UTU if the UTU had provided their financial records.
Their refusal led the BLE to dissolve any chance of a merger.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 March 2010

I think the UTU is horse shit. The UTU trys its best to copy the BLE
when nogotiating contracts. The UTU as well as all other unions care
nothing more about anything but getting thee dues.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 March 2010

This was posted this morning (3/18)on the UTU web site...it's funny it
didn't make the front page, I wonder why? I would think this is rather
important to the membership...but I could be wrong!

   http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=51183

Name: 
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Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 March 2010

Transfer cubbie i was just sent a letter on about 5 places looking for
transfers

Name: furloughed cubbie
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Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 March 2010

going on month 14 of being furloughed and CSX still sucks

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 March 2010

Straight from the UTU web site!

In bad times, seniority rules 

Railroad layoffs prompted by the recession have brought more than 120
people, some from as far away as California and New Mexico, to Nebraska
rail hubs in Alliance and North Platte as union workers claim jobs held
by people with less seniority, reports the Omaha World-Herald.

BNSF and Union Pacific have furloughed nearly 10,000 workers nationwide
since late 2008, and union rules allow "bumping," even into other
states.

The United Transportation Union has allowed furloughed workers to claim
jobs through seniority for years, and the practice increased during the
recession, which started in December 2007. When BN merged with
Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe, in 1995, the district that includes
Alliance expanded to include more states in the West and Southwest.

"This is probably the most significant downturn I've ever
witnessed," said Randy Knutson, a UTU general chairperson in Denver.

Railroad operations in the West and South were the first to feel
effects of the recession, as consumer spending dropped and imports
fell, said Knutson, who started working for the railroad in 1973 and
has been a full-time union employee for about 17 years.

The deepening downturn eventually hurt demand for other products
shipped by rail, such as lumber and coal, and furloughs grew into the
thousands nationwide.

Union officials say bumping can cause mild resentment among members,
but they are aware of the rules and accept them. Merchants and business
officials in North Platte and Alliance say the rule has helped maintain
even employment and economic stability in their communities.

"We've noticed a lot of different people," said Caren Stanley, who
works at Thiele Pharmacy and Gifts in Alliance, where BNSF has a rail
yard and locomotive repair shop. "We're a pharmacy, so they come in
to get their prescriptions."

Of Alliance's 9,000 residents, about 1,600 or 17 percent work for BNSF
and approximately 240 have been furloughed.

Kenny Preiss, UTU Local 934 chairperson in Alliance, said about 120
railroad employees - including from California, Texas and New Mexico -
bumped local workers and moved to the town through last year. Fifty
remain, he said.

There was a slight resentment because people lost their jobs, Preiss
said. "But there were no fights, no screaming or hollering. Most
people understand that we are allowed to move," he said.

When Union Pacific instituted furloughs in North Platte, home of the
world's largest switchyard, about 20 workers from there bumped
employees with less seniority in Council Bluffs, said Ben Ebmeier, UTU
Local 200 chairperson in North Platte.

"At some point everybody can be bumped and everybody can bump," he
said.

Approximately 2,600 people work for UP at North Platte's Bailey Yard,
or about 12 percent of the town's 22,000 residents.

At the recession's worst point last spring and summer, about 500
people in the North Platte service unit were furloughed, union
officials said. The unit includes parts of Iowa, Kansas and Wyoming.

Union Pacific laid off up to 5,300 operating employees across its
23-state system last year, said spokeswoman Donna Kush. Approximately
4,000 still are idled, she said.

BNSF, which operates in 28 states, had a similar fall-off in business,
forcing it to furlough more than 3,000 last year. At the beginning of
this year, about 1,000 had returned to work.

Recovery has been slow, Kush said, with business about 13 percent below
2008 levels.

"We'd love to get people back to work, but it depends on volumes,"
she said.

More union members from distant states moved to Alliance to work than
to North Platte, because the agreement with BNSF allows engineers and
conductors to move across a wider swath of territory, Knutson said.

The union's seniority district that includes North Platte is smaller
under Union Pacific, said Rich Mohr, who is Local 286 chairperson in
North Platte. A few people from Cheyenne, Wyo., bumped workers in North
Platte, he said.

Most Alliance residents bumped by out-of-state workers tried to stay in
the area, said Dixie Nelson, director of the Alliance Area Chamber of
Commerce.

"They get railroad unemployment and work with lending institutions
here. They talk to the bank or the credit union, who try to work with
you as much as possible," she said.

Furloughed rail workers with less than 10 years experience receive $320
a week from the Railroad Retirement Board for approximately three
months. Workers with more experience receive an additional three months
of benefits. The federal stimulus bill passed last year provided another
three months of payments.

Nonetheless, unemployment benefits replace only about a third of an
average worker's salary, and some workers laid off for more than a
year have exhausted their benefits.

Jeff Fisher, 50, a BNSF conductor and switchcrew foreman in the rail
yard in Alliance, said he was laid off for more than three weeks in
January this year.

Believing the layoff could last as long as four months, he borrowed
money from a bank to make house payments and meet other needs and put
his name in as a substitute teacher.

"It took some planning," Fisher said. "Jobs are hard to come by here
in Alliance."

Finding full-time, temporary employment is difficult because employers
know furloughed railroad workers will quit if called back.

"Decent, full-time work?" Ebmeier said in North Platte. "That can be
tough. "Most people around here know that if you are on the railroad
and you're called back, you will be out."

Mohr said 88 Union Pacific workers in North Platte are on a special
waiting list that allows them to work two days a week for the railroad
and retain their medical benefits. They also can find work elsewhere
without giving up their spots on the list.

The company likes the arrangement because when business picks up people
on the waiting list are better prepared to return to work more quickly
than regularly furloughed workers, Mohr said.

"Benefits are the key thing," Mohr said. "If you can provide for
your family and get them to the doctor when they need to, that's
huge."

BNSF doesn't have a similar waiting list, but it does provide four
months of health insurance for furloughed workers.

Alliance and North Platte appear to have survived the furloughs
relatively unscathed.

"Things are kind of status quo," Nelson, the Alliance chamber of
commerce official, said. "I think through Christmas businesses kind of
held their own. It was not what people feared it might be."

Dan Mauk, president and CEO of the North Platte Area Chamber of
Commerce, said most small businesses remain open, and city sales tax
revenue is stable.

(The preceding article was published March 15, 2010, by the Omaha
World-Herald.)

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 March 2010

He's in the wind!

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 March 2010

What happen to Danny Spencer????? Where did he go???? Why was he sent
back to Indiana if that is were he's at, cant find him anyware. Shows
Angie Averitte as termial superintendant here now??? What happen to
Danny?

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 March 2010

I also have a question I work on the huntington on the blue ridge sub
and have not been recalled yet, but was just wanting to know once
recalled do they have to keep you marked up for awhile or can they cutt
you right back off?

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 March 2010

As a follow up to my prior post:

-The PBP is deferred until 1/01/12 rather than upon ratification
 of the agreement; and that a minimum of 15% will be deferred 
 into the Capital Builder Plan. The award will be made only if
 an annual bonus is made under the MICP. No guarantee but highly
 likely.

I do not recall the match CSX gives you on funds you have deducted from
you pay check and put into the Capital Builder Plan. It was either 7.5%
or 15%...my question would be is the 15% deferred PBP in addition to or
in lieu of that match? 

It might be worth looking into!

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 March 2010

I have finally had the opportunity to read the proposed UTU/CSX SSA.
Several concerns and comments. 

-First the money is awful and is reason enough to vote no.
-It "replaces any and all local agreements, past practices and
 arbitral jurisprudence that are in conflict unless otherwise
 provided for in side letter 9". 
-The PBP is deferred until 1/01/12 rather than upon ratification
 of the agreement; and that a minimum of 15% will be deferred 
 into the Capital Builder Plan. The award will be made only if
 an annual bonus is made under the MICP. No guarantee but highly
 likely.
-The IPA is a gift for working safely, by the rules and perfect
 attendance. It's up to the individual to decide for themselves
 if it's worth it. It beats the street!
-Seniority districts...looks like the L&N covers Alabama, Kentucky & 
 Tennessee. More places to work and more people to take your job.
-Furlough Retention Board...really only helps a few new guys.
-Reserve Board...helps out a few old heads and an equal number of
 new hires.
-Too many grey areas left up to the Dispute Resolution Committee. 

90% of this is boilerplate and basically the same as the agreements
you now work under. I have been adamant that the time is long overdue
to streamline the system...the RLA, the unions and the carrier. Based
on this proposal, CSX has taken a step. I completely understand
why CSX would like their employees to be available and work safely. To
that end CSX has offered a proposal that requires the employee to take
ownership of their jobs and the company. Unless CSX is profitable there
is no company and no jobs.

Some one once said on here that this contract is CSX's dream
contract.If it is, CSX can and will do better...never accept the first
offer. The decision rests solely on the UTU membership...I've heard
for too long that it's a new generation of railroaders and the expect
more. All I can say to that is you get what you earn, so if you have
high expectations you better have the wherewithal to achieve them.

You can start by voting no and sending your General Chairmen back to
the bargaining table with clarity of purpose...tell them what you want,
what you like and what you don't like about this proposal. it's time
for the "new generation" to step up to the plate!

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 March 2010

I saw this and could help smiling.

http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=51064

Made me think of the Ocean Springs girl who came out of the bar and
flashed us every time a train would pass!

Name: 
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 March 2010

So....where is Danny Spencer now?

Name: MadMan
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Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 March 2010

Another Wonderful Day on the Baltimore Division!

CENTER CITY - March 9, 2010 (WPVI) -- A derailed train car fell as it
was being lifted, and the Action Cam caught it on video.

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When more than 2 million pounds of churning metal tries to come to a
screeching halt, something has to give, and the train derailed Monday
night just after 10 p.m. at 23rd and Race streets in Center City
Philadelphia.

Michael Fischette lives along the tracks and watched as the conductor
tried to keep the train on the tracks.

Crews spent the morning trying to get the cars back on the rail and
clear the scene. They had a minor setback when one car toppled over.
But they got the job done a few hours later.

VIDEO: One of the cars slipped and fell onto its side during efforts to
get it back on the tracks Tuesday morning, and Action News cameras were
rolling as it happened.

There were no hazardous materials aboard any of the 5 cars that
derailed. CSX teams had the train repaired and back on its way by
noon.

The rail lines are used solely for freight trains and the derailment is
not affecting commuter trains.

Fire officials say there are no injuries and no hazardous material
involved.

The cause of the derailment still under investigation.

(Copyright ©2010 WPVI-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)

Name: steve
E-mail: hmstoo@hotmail
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 March 2010

Hey Skippi! I started with CSX in the 70s and quit in the 90s.
Retirement age was changed when Regan was in office. I wasn't eligible
for full benefits until I was 66 & 9 months.

Name: 
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 March 2010

All I know is his wife's name is Jamie and he moved to Georgia from
Florida.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 March 2010

Would that be Larry McKenzie out of Gentilly...tell me it ain't so?

Name: 
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 March 2010

Why???????? was Danny Spencer sent back to Indiana from Boyles Yard?

Name: 
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 March 2010

Who has information on the affair between Lindsey Harrison and Larry
McKenzie?  Is the Railroad aware of this?  They are in both in Georgia,
but she came from Boyles Yard in Alabama. Need info concerning their
jobs at the moment.  She is supposedly on leave??????

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 March 2010

Here's another "let me tell you how good we're doing and our future
plans to do even better". 

Maybe this time they'll catch the market on an up tick!
 
http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1398401&highlight=


J.P. MORGAN   THOMAS R. WADEWITZ   212-622-6461

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 March 2010

Lafayette, IN...will there be a conversion? Will Danny become a member
of the High Heeled Boys Club? Stay tuned.

Name: Pete
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 March 2010

Heads up Lafayette, Indiana Yards.

Danny Spencer is headed your way, and plans on excersizing his Yard
Master seniority.  

The wife has had enough of Danny, and his wild ways.  She is going home
to the Lafayette area, and if Danny wants to be with his kids, he had
better follow.

Enjoy

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 March 2010

Hey APE 1-10:

We sold him a couch, love seat, ottoman and a couple of tables we
didn't want that were going to storage or be given to charity. I
suppose you think we should have given them to him. That was 2.5 years
ago. He has been given enough...since you seem to know him you can ask
him.

If you're interested I have a circa 1880 Brunswick regulation pool
table...I don't believe my step son can afford it, maybe you can!

Name: Jesus Nomo
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 March 2010

LOL!  Nomo said this.......

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 February 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

Lets get one thing straight...first I'm not your buddy. Secondly, at
28 your not old enough to know the difference between shit and
shinola.


If you've been in furlough status for four years, why would you hang
around the crew room and make yourself mad by watching the old heads
tally their earning statements? Or better yet, why haven't you taken
a
transfer...I'm sure they have been offered.

Why are the "young guys" suffering to feed their family? Perhaps you
can favor all of us by telling us what kind of trucks they drive and
how they live. The old heads can drive those trucks because their
families are grown and hopefully off their dole, their houses are paid
for. Their expenses are less than a young man with a family.

Life is full of choices...you can save and invest money now or you can
spend it on impressing your friends. Make the wrong choice now and
you'll regret it later.

Any one under 30 has never seen truly tough times. Times are tough and
will get tougher before they get better, sounds like the regrets are
starting.

By the way, I have a '01 GMC Yukon and a '99 MB ML450 and the money
I've saved on notes, insurance and tags will pay for a nice extended
family vacation in Europe this summer or buy one of my Grandchildren a
P.A.C.T. contract which will pay for their college education.

Like I said, it's their money and they can spend it however they want
to. If they are suffering however, do you think it might be because of
the choices they made?







What he failed to add is that he is full of shit and that he was
selling his furniture to his step son not that long ago.  The step son
that still works for railroad.

Name: rel'd women of B'ham
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 March 2010

Great news everyone,          yeah!!!!!yeah!!!!!!heah!!!!!    
  Danny Spencer has been fired as a CSX officer,  the days of fucking
with peoples wifes, chickenshit failures, lying to everyone, stepping
on toes has finally caught up with old Danny. Too bad he did'nt get
fired completely. Would have been nice to have seen his seniority taken
away so he could see what it feels like to be on the other end of things
for a change. Ever heard of 'Karma' Danny? well you finally got yours.

Name: getting you from A to A 1/2
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Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 February 2010

Just a thought to throw out amongst all you conductors and the few
engineers with the UTU.

Why don't one of you start up UTU-Sucks.com ???

They are the ones who agree to all this BS

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 February 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

It has been said before but it bears repeating...become involved in
your local, read the Railroad Labor Act and the Collective Bargaining
Agreement you work under. 

Don't be embarrassed to ask questions...the documents are  difficult
to understand. The old heads are the repository of the knowledge.
Frankly the UTU would rather the membership not become educated about
them. Knowledge is your best friend and a little can go a long way.

Please, whatever you do, take the time to vote and encourage you
coworkers to vote. Regardless of the outcome, this vote will impact you
for the rest of your careers

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 February 2010

Thanks NoMo I've asked that question to several people and nobody seems
to know or they say we will get worse if we vote it down , I just
wasn't sure how the process worked or the steps .

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 February 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

Lets put first things first...the vote comes first, every thing else is
second. What might happen next is of little or no importance; ifs and
buts should have nothing to do with you or anyone else voting or how
you vote.

The PEB it the very last step in the process and would be years away;
and yes their recommendation would be imposed on all parties.
However, the recommendations made by the PEB could very well be to
members advantage.

In the past the UTU has used the threat of a possible PEB imposing less
favorable terms than those negotiated to coerce the members into voting
for the proposed agreement.

If the SSA fails, like the Loco 30+ said, the parties will sit down and
renegotiate or fall back on the national negotiations. Should the
national agreement fail you would continue to work under the current
contract until a new one was ratified or the PEB recommendations were
imposed.

A strike would last a hour or two before the President issued a back to
work order, the UTU would immediately comply, if they didn't the civil
fines would commence and the union leadership arrested.

The last thing the UTU leadership wants to do is bankrupt their meal
ticket or go to jail. Until the union leadership is willing to make
sacrifices, the chain of shitty contracts brought to the membership
will continue!

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 February 2010

If voted down could this be forced on us through section notices and
stuff like that.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 February 2010

Looks like the UTU is bringing out the heavy guns!

I may be reading between the lines but it looks like the UTU is
telling the membership not to expect much out of the National
negotiations and accept what they offer!




Why don't we just shut 'em down? 

By Retired UTU GS&T Dan Johnson 

We frequently hear from frustrated members, "Why don’t we simply go on
strike, shut the railroad down, and be done with it?"

I, too, have shared these feelings witnessing excessive discipline,
outrageous demands of arrogant managers, and carrier negotiators
focusing only on their year-end bonus. But the fact is, it's against
the law to simply "shut ‘em down."

Before labor or management may engage in strikes or lockouts, each must
satisfy numerous steps spelled out by the Railway Labor Act (RLA). In
most disputes - defined as differences over application or
interpretation of contracts - the RLA requires final and binding
arbitration. 

In the few disputes that can lead to a strike or lockout -- involving
collective bargaining over contract amendments affecting wages,
benefits and working conditions -- the Supreme Court held that the RLA
purposely creates "interminable" delay designed to encourage both
sides to reach a mutually-acceptable solution and keep the trains
running.

Among the lengthy steps is open-ended mediation by the National
Mediation Board, and recommendations for settlement by a White House
appointed presidential emergency board (PEB). 

Railroads are deemed so essential to national defense and a healthy
economy that even in the few instances where all intermediate steps
fail, and a strike or lockout is permitted, Congress usually inserts
itself and passes a back-to-work law imposing settlement demands
generally mirroring PEB recommendations.

We, in rail labor, have learned from bitter experience that our
membership is better served by a voluntary settlement -- even if we
don’t get all we want -- than having a third party, with no real-world
knowledge of our industry, cram a settlement down our throats.

Finally, if we ignore the law and "shut ‘em down" anyway, we face
fines and civil judgments that could bankrupt the union and result in
jail terms for those involved in the shutdown. 

(Dan Johnson served as UTU GS&T from 2001 until his retirement in 2007.
He hired on as a Southern Pacific trainman, Tucson Division, in 1966. He
held elective positions of vice local chairperson, local chairperson and
legislative representative for Local 807, Tucson, and was Arizona State
Legislative Board chairperson from 1975-1983. 

Brother Johnson was vice general chairperson and general chairperson
for Southern Pacific/Union Pacific Western Lines from 1981-1997; and an
International vice president from 1997 to his election as GS&T in 2001.

He earned an undergraduate degree in government and history from the
University of Arizona in 1969, and did graduate studies there in 1969
and 1970.)
 
February 23, 2010

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 February 2010

I would check with your Local S/T or LC to find out who is eligible to
vote they should have a list. It should be anyone with good standings
within the union. Since you're furloughed you should be eligible to
vote seeing union dues are waived during that time period. I don't
think retirees can vote because when they retire they resign their
seniority from the railroad even though they are still considered union
members. 

If the UTU SSA is voted down there would be two options:

1) The UTU and CSX could sit down and renegotiate another on-property
contract hopefully with better results.

2) Resort back to the national contract negotiations.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 February 2010

do furloughed employs get to vote and is it true that retired utu
members vote also what happens next if this contract is voted down , i
get different answers on that .

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 February 2010

Hey Con 10-20:
 
My comments in response to Hancock's answers to the Old Head
Conductor's dissection of the UTU SSA.



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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 February 2010

There's nothing like a little light reading first thing in the
morning!

It took less time to read "War and Peace". After reading his defense
of UTU SSA agreement...all I can say is "guilty as charged". I see
nothing in his responses that would change my mind.

The fact that he would respond at all tells me the SSA is in trouble
and the UTU is trying to divert the memberships attention from the
issues at hand.

I found the following exchange quite humorous...

"You should remember that the value of an Individual Performance
Award
of CSX stock depends solely on the value of the stock at the time
given
and should not be held as a set amount. The actual value of the award
could vary widely, depending on the market or forces such as stock
splits. If you are serving our country in the National Guard or
Reserve, and have weekend duty once every six months, you will never
see an Individual Performance Award until you hitch is up. Just CSX's
way of saying thanks for your service".
 
Response: "The stock is the stock; it is not based on a monetary
value. This is better than the writer’s opinion.  CSXT’s policy on
serving in the military remains in effect. Finally, the IPA is an
addition".

If the stock isn't based on a monetary value, what's it based
on...good intentions?

Here's the kicker..."However, this Agreement will put from a minimum
of $18,000.00 to $53000.00 or more in a member’s pocket.  And if the
national does better on the GWI, it will be more money guaranteed".

Let's blind the membership with $ signs!

Looks like the UTU is getting desperate.


The GC and the UTU considered this a fait accompli, a done deal;
leading the sheep to slaughter. They though the membership would follow
the footsteps of the BLEt membership. 

The last thing the UTU and CSX wants is to have the National proposal
released prior to the SSA being ratified...they don't want the
membership to compare them. Don't be surprised if votes aren't cast
from the grave yard!

Like the 30+ Con stated yesterday under Safety...I too can't believe
the UTU would even allow something like this to be brought to a vote.

I truly hope this proposal is soundly defeated then the GC are ousted
from their jobs. Perhaps then International would get the message!

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 February 2010

This has nothing to do with old or young. This is about working
conditions that will affect everyone for decades. When the BLE SSA came
about some people thought how great it would be to know where and when
they'll be working every week under a bid system. Not thinking about
what will be lost. Last year when the BLE negotiated the SSA extension
they knew there was a possibility it wouldn't pass so they included
another opt out clause for 2014. Using scare tactics of the economy and
that national negotiations could go on for years. Those same tactics are
being used by the UTU. Wether it passes or not isn't the bigger
question it's getting people to take 5 minutes to send in a ballot. In
a democracy majority always wins. To see a small turnout of voters like
what happened with the BLE in 2007 (51%) & 2009 (34%) is troubling.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 February 2010

Who cares about the age group what we need to be talking about is voting
this contract down and spreading the word ! Hey NoMo what did you think
about Hancocks comment  on the contract ; and why haven't we heard
about the national . They were goin to meet the 1st of this month to
negotiate and there are no updates .

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 February 2010

speaking of the bickering between old head and new blood.... thats part
of the problem, just like the utu vs. ble..... it should be old + new
vs this piece of shit company called CSX.

the unions should also stop the bickering and side deals and try to
work together to bring better treatment to the union dues paying
employees of CSX.
Company is getting what they want cause WE the idiots wont stand
together.....

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 February 2010

Some debt restructuring:

http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1393587&highlight=

Name: Furloughed Cubbie
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 February 2010

i have been reading the bickering between old head and new blood.  What
the new blood fails to mention is at the interview they told us the
odds of getting furloughed are high and they even made us sign a piece
of paper saying we understood this.  I signed it and so did all the
rest of the cubbies.  So i will have to side with the old heads on this
one but do keep in mind one thing to all the old heads out there.  While
you bitch about everything, just keep in mind we will be glad to do your
job for less because dammit we just want to fucking work.  Bottom line
is new blood knew what the hell they were getting into and the old
heads need to understand that we just want to pay the bills.  Some of
us left damn good jobs thinking that CSX was better and got dry fucked
by J-ville when they only gave us days and not weeks to turn notices
into previous employers which in turned kept most of us from going back
to our old jobs.

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Posted: 23 February 2010

Name: NoMo
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Posted: 22 February 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

Lets get one thing straight...first I'm not your buddy. Secondly, at
28 your not old enough to know the difference between shit and
shinola.


If you've been in furlough status for four years, why would you hang
around the crew room and make yourself mad by watching the old heads
tally their earning statements? Or better yet, why haven't you taken
a
transfer...I'm sure they have been offered.

Why are the "young guys" suffering to feed their family? Perhaps you
can favor all of us by telling us what kind of trucks they drive and
how they live. The old heads can drive those trucks because their
families are grown and hopefully off their dole, their houses are paid
for. Their expenses are less than a young man with a family.

Life is full of choices...you can save and invest money now or you can
spend it on impressing your friends. Make the wrong choice now and
you'll regret it later.

Any one under 30 has never seen truly tough times. Times are tough and
will get tougher before they get better, sounds like the regrets are
starting.

By the way, I have a '01 GMC Yukon and a '99 MB ML450 and the money
I've saved on notes, insurance and tags will pay for a nice extended
family vacation in Europe this summer or buy one of my Grandchildren a
P.A.C.T. contract which will pay for their college education.XXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Heck man you left out the best part.
The Harley Davidson, and the Trailer house double wide!!!

Name: NoMo
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Posted: 23 February 2010

Hey Loco 30+:

Sounds like the same old song...just a few more slots to bid on.
Instead of bidding on jobs at your home terminal you'll have to bid on
jobs in your seniority district.

Seniority is king, the best jobs go to the most senior men. If you
happen to work at a desirable terminal you may be displaced by a
man who rather drive 50 or 60 miles to work a afternoon job rather than
work grave yards at home. Of course that has always been a possibility,
it now becomes a probability.

In any event the dreaded F9 board will no longer be a seasonal visitor
rather a permanent guest. The youngest men will reside there until they
have enough seniority to hold the shittiest job in the shittiest
terminal in the district.

I wonder if the F9 board will be by terminal or if they'll go to a
district wide board?

In any event, if I were at the bottom of the roster I would be tuning
up the resume and looking for other employment while my seniority
ripened. If I was on the cusp of holding a job at home,
I might preempt being forced by relocating to the shitty terminal.
There's no point in postponing the inevitable and it would save money
and stress further down the line and limit you to one relocation.

Down here Gentilly was considered the shittiest terminal in the
district. When I first hired out I was forced to New Orleans. It was
135 miles from my front door to the yard office; it took 1:55 to make
the drive. Although I didn't like it, I found the yard, people and
city enjoyable. Pensacola would be considered the best but unless you
had 2 years of service you couldn't hold anything. 

I found a nice apartment about 5 minutes from the yard just on the dry
side of the revetment. With utilities it still cost $750 a month.
Either move your family or make the move with enough men to share the
expenses and keep your share small. 

The RR is hard enough and will put a strain on families and marriages
even under the best circumstances. Being separated by a couple of
hundred miles for 10-12 days at a time for a couple of years spells
disaster.

In any event, if I had less than 3 years of service I would start
formulating "what if" scenarios. Even if the UTU SSA doesn't pass
CSX's employment/labor relation philosophy is evolving...mutating is a
more like it and they will be increasingly hard to deal with.

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Posted: 23 February 2010

CSX allows bad behavior with their frieght train emplowees. they leave
their job to meet their girlfriends to run on their spouses then call
the other person on the job this i they going in the waycross yard . I
know this happien from when CSX was in fernandina bch. fl. to waycross
ga. this is a safty issue they cover for each other engineers and
conductors. this happiens alot with the ones from age to and they are
still there. they are a safty problem.

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Posted: 23 February 2010

NoMo

What I used was some what exagerated but not really. The bid system has
85 slots. Engineers in my area have to protect a seniority zone of 234
miles which includes 5 yards. My point was some people are bidding on
jobs that they couldn't hold unless hell froze over then want to bitch
when they're forced to other terminals. If the trainmen get this bid
system life will drastically change. They too will have to protect
every job within their seniority zone. The fall back is if no one bids
on a job it can be awarded to the youngest man who didn't put in
enough bids. If I had my choice of putting extra bids in for jobs I
don't really want that might require that I drive 70 miles to work
it's better than be forced to drive 234 miles. It has already
happened. Never say they can't. The railroad doesn't care about any
hardships. Once you're in a bid system it's all about putting in the
right choices from #1 being the best down to #85 being the worse. Just
because a persons terminal only has 14 jobs there might be 71 other
jobs within the zone. Most cases where people were forced away from
home they've been lucky to get a weeks vacation or PL days till the
next round of bids.

Name: NoMo
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Posted: 23 February 2010

Hey Loco 30+:

It seems to me that having to bid on 85 jobs is excessive. Unless
you're at an ultra-large terminal; in the case of an engineer, there
aren't that many jobs at their home terminal. Does the SSA force
engineers to bid on jobs outside their home terminal?

Trying to recall, in Mobile there seemed to be maybe 14 yard (Pre RCO)
or local jobs, 8 assigned runs, 10 pool slots and another 20 or so
slots on two boards. The Mobile boards protected New Orleans. That's
52 slots the engineers could bid at their home terminal and that's
before Sibert went remote.

That would leave 33 slots the engineers would have to bid outside the
home terminal. The UTU seniority district went as far as Birmingham;
I'm not sure how far the BLEt district went to. However,
I do know it went to Pensacola (60 miles), Flomaton (60 miles),
Montgomery (170 miles) and New Orleans (135 miles).

In any event, being forced on a job other than a TV at an away from
home terminal would cause a severe financial hardship. I'm I correct
that CSX does not have to provide a room or meal allowance on jobs that
are forced? Have engineers in your District been forced or can they bid
down?

The UTU has a 30 mile rule...I wonder how the union and carrier will
reconcile the conflict if the UTU SSA's bid system is similar to the
BLEt's and it passes?

I guess engineers are subject to flowback, so there is someplace they
can go...the ground service employees have no such protection
regardless of whether the UTU SSA passes or fails.

I think the tales of woe haven't even begun!

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Posted: 23 February 2010

Cond 1-10

The young is suffering? What do you think we haven't been in that
situation? I can assure you we went through furloughs and difficult
times on the railroad. It's a matter of sticking it out or leaving.
There are no other choices. I don't think people would be bitching
about getting laid off from other jobs more than they do about the
railroad. No one owes you anything definitely not those still working.
What you're looking for is a hand out. Go paint a sign go to the
nearest interstate on ramp and say you'll work for food. 

I'm with NoMo if you've been furloughed for 4 years why are you
hanging out in the crew room. Apparently you know how to get another
job seeing your F150 ect...was paid off before you hired out. What NoMo
stated was correct. In 2008 & 2009 we saw newbies just marked up buying
new Cadillac Escalades, F150's, Mercedes, BMW's ect...even though we
warned them not to buy anything big within 5 years till they establish
seniority. I've lived in the same home for 23 years I drive a 2007
Dodge Charger I got from the credit union which was a repo. Most of my
peers don't live high on the hog like ya'll think. All we think about
is getting to retirement age.

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Posted: 23 February 2010

C&O Joe

I'm on the Huntington Division just like you. I've even quoted you on
this site and a few others that the union helped those in training that
were let go. That was the union in action taking care of it's people
even though they weren't technically in the union. If people would get
involved with the union it would open up their eyes to see it's not all
cut and dry that everything has to go through the proper channels. All I
see is those few who occasionally attend meeting have their own agenda
and not the locals/divisions as a whole. Bitching moaning they didn't
get their claims paid that CSX forced them outside the home terminal
because they didn't put the max 85 jobs on their bid sheet ect...When
it comes down to issues that affect everyone that can't seem to form
an opinion. The unions good or bad needs people to get involved or just
go with the consequenses from non-participation.

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Posted: 23 February 2010

Lloyd

It appears you read more into what I wrote that what it was. It's time
for those who have the majority voting power to step up to the plate.
That would be anyone with less than 20 years on the railroad. My
generation doesn't have voting power anymore most of us will be gone
in the next 5 years. You talk about being a veteran that's commendable
and you should be proud to have served your country. It still has
nothing to do with the railroad. Other than like myself I was hired
because of my military service. All I stated was this generation has to
get involved with the union for it to survive. This defeatist attitude
will be it's downfall. There isn't any such thing as voluntary
furloughs if there was it wouldn't help it would be a temporary fix.
You think because we are up in age we have tons of money in the bank.
Most of my generation is just getting to the point to aggressively save
for retirement. We've helped put our children through college helped
them make a fresh start in life ect...it never stops them comes the
grandchildren. If you can't take advise from the generation before you
then you're a fool. I've never stated this new generation had
everything handed to them on a silver platter that was you. You're the
biggest complainer when CSX has tried to help out by offering transfers.
You find the negative side in everything. 

Yes, I come on this website everyday. Sometimes I post sometimes I
don't. All in all it's my 15 minutes. I'm in the process of
retiring. There ya' go I helped put a man to work that most likely
would still be furloughed. The time will come when one morning you'll
wake up to find ya'll have become the oldheads. I was 32 years old
when it happened. Then when it happens the next generation can whim and
moan about how greedy you are. Most people I know young an old aren't
voluntering to run up it's more of a case that CMC gets them on the
phone and forces it. That has been going on way before you and I were
ever born. It's not new.

Name: NoMo
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Posted: 22 February 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

Lets get one thing straight...first I'm not your buddy. Secondly, at
28 your not old enough to know the difference between shit and shinola.


If you've been in furlough status for four years, why would you hang
around the crew room and make yourself mad by watching the old heads
tally their earning statements? Or better yet, why haven't you taken a
transfer...I'm sure they have been offered.

Why are the "young guys" suffering to feed their family? Perhaps you
can favor all of us by telling us what kind of trucks they drive and
how they live. The old heads can drive those trucks because their
families are grown and hopefully off their dole, their houses are paid
for. Their expenses are less than a young man with a family.

Life is full of choices...you can save and invest money now or you can
spend it on impressing your friends. Make the wrong choice now and
you'll regret it later.

Any one under 30 has never seen truly tough times. Times are tough and
will get tougher before they get better, sounds like the regrets are
starting.

By the way, I have a '01 GMC Yukon and a '99 MB ML450 and the money
I've saved on notes, insurance and tags will pay for a nice extended
family vacation in Europe this summer or buy one of my Grandchildren a
P.A.C.T. contract which will pay for their college education.

Like I said, it's their money and they can spend it however they want
to. If they are suffering however, do you think it might be because of
the choices they made?

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Posted: 22 February 2010

Hey buddy! My f-150, my home and everything else I own was earned threw
the hard work before I ever came to CSX! I am 28 years old and I can
tell you right now that you are full of shit. I work in Erwin Tn and am
in my 4th year of Fourlough status. I see so much bullshit that I want
to puke right there in the crew room floor. The guys that have 20 plus
are so greedy that all they do is calculate there earnings. I see young
guys suffering to feed there familys whil you old fuckers are driving
the nice trucks and sports cars and have fat ass wallets and have to
jump on a train and listen to your bitching! I see 30 plus men mad
because they are so caught up in there greed they think you are taking
there job from them. When you go to work next time look at what kind of
vehicle your hopping into!

Name: NoMo
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Posted: 22 February 2010

Hey Joe:

Not all short lines are bad to work for. The Alabama State Docks
Terminal Railroad paid their Engineers and Switchmen $2-3/hour more
than CSX did and this was 5 years ago. No RCOs and the only jobs on
Sunday were extras.

80 miles of track, mostly yard and 7 switchers and they couldn't stand
CSX either!

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Posted: 22 February 2010

How craft workers fall into to management positions:
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-02-17/

Name: NoMo
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Posted: 22 February 2010

Hey Lloyd:

I can't speak for anyone but myself...you're right, each generation
is different largely due to the efforts of the preceding generations.

I hate to paint everyone with a broad brush but look around the
different terminals you work. Cadillacs, Z-71s, F-150s, high end sports
cars. Most but not all are owned by 20 somethings. Employees
that are new or have just a year or two on the RR. It's not only CSX
but other class Is, IIs and IIIs union and non-union alike. This is not
unique to the RR either...check out the parking lots of the industries
you work...there are a lot of really nice late model cars and trucks,
some with nice boats behind them as well.

Now I will venture to guess that 99% of the people couldn't afford
vehicles or boats like this on the incomes they earn, whether it be
from CSX or ExxonMobil and reasonably provide for a growing family and
their future needs. The ones that can, live at home with their parents.
The rest are either living well beyond their means or have inherited
money and using it to fund these luxuries. Either way I don't
care...it their money and they can do with it as they please.

The point I've tried to make is the high paying jobs on the RR, Steel,
Auto and Coal industries have come at a cost. The cost being
participation by the membership in the union and a say so in their own
affairs. Over the last 20 years the wage increases and benefits
won by prior generations has slowly eroded...why? Because the current
membership either doesn't care or won't take the time to
participate.

Mark my words...in 20 years the RR contract employees will either be
the elite of the working class in America or they'll be at the bottom
of the food chain fighting for crumbs with the rest of the bottom
feeders. It all depends on the individual members being a part of
something bigger than themselves.

For the ground service personnel, the time is at hand to decide which
it'll be...will a few decide or will many?

Name: C&O JOE
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Posted: 22 February 2010

Engineer 30+,

       I don't know how it works everywhere, but I know the suspended
Trainees on the C&O and L&N established seniority in Atlanta so any
transfers that come in will follow them. The catch is that their not
promoted so the still have to fill the 60 day probation period. The
company could terminate each one's seniority if they wanted to. The
training agreement calls for not less than 16 weeks of continuous
training, so when they started suspending them we naturally cried foul.
CSX acknolaged we were right and said they would finish training them
and immediatly terminate them upon promotion. We worked it out that
they could suspend them as long as they retained employment. The union
quite literally saved their job but they're on here everyday talking
about how bad we fucked them, as if we could have forced them to let
them stay marked up. 

Lloyd,

     I agree with you, I've always felt that we are our own worst
enemy. I could spend all day giving you examples of men cutting their
own throats. I've had guys call me hours ahead of time to tell me shit
they were gonna do to get in trouble. Then they'd do it, call me
wanting me to get them out of it, and cry foul about how they got
fucked by CSX, even though they knew ahead of time what would happen. I
once had a guy call me and chew my ass because he was working off the F9
board and he got hit with union dues. I got to looking and he worked 19
days that month! But the union fucked him. I know this isn't the same
context you were using but you know what I mean.

Name: Lloyd
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Posted: 22 February 2010

After reading the past few comments I feel like it is necessary for me
to chime in.  I feel like there are always two sides to a story so let
me enlighten the older generation somewhat.  

First of all, our generations are different.  Guys in their late
twenties and early thirties live different lives then those in their
mid forties to early sixties, it's a fact.  Eng +30 you come on here
five times a week talking about how everything is handed to younger men
on a plate and this generation isn't anything but crybabies.  I've got
news for you brother, you are flat out wrong.  Do you realize how many
vets work for this company?  Are you claiming these new guys who went
served our country want hand outs?  You need to get your shit straight.
 

The reason why you don't see a lot of guys transfering is because
there is no gaurantee they will be safe where they transfer.  You're
right, everyone is free to make choices, but some think long and hard
before they uproot their own family for a company that is shady at
best.  

C&O Joe, you want to know how to fix the problems?  One way to fix the
problems is to have guys stop doing extra favors for this company. 
Some men could take voluntary one month furloughs if they have some
cash in the bank.  Some people out here work to damn much because they
live to lavishly.  Our CEO and his minions make too much money also. 
These shareholders want to make profit so they want to slash jobs. 
We've got one man running an operation that used to consist of two or
three.  We also need to implement an early out for men over 55 and that
would solve a huge part of the problem.  There are always solutions.  

Some of you on here make it sound like you had it so damn worse than
people who are young and working now.  Hell, at least a lot of you had
opportunities that the new generation may never have.  Yeah we have
cell phones, the internet, and cool little gadgets these days but we
are about to run out of jobs to pay for them.  

Everyone is different.  Just because you lived your life one way or you
have your opinions doesn't mean we all should have your mentality. 
I'm not really being critical of you Joe, but RRJ you could cut people
some slack sometimes.  I'm a vet myself and I don't ask for any
handouts.  I put my pants on just like you and trust me, I don't live
beyond my means.  I go where I have to go for work and I spend plenty
of time away from my family.  

You guys are probably right about the strike.  What would it do anyways
besides cause all of us more headache?  Maybe it would change things if
we could actually have a successful one or maybe it would lead us down
a path of more misery.  All I know is if we don't come together we
will get bent over.  Now go ahead and be critical of what I say, but
remember we aren't much different.

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Posted: 22 February 2010

Yes, CSX has posted job application's open to the public in certian
areas while people are furloughed around the system. They can do it
because we don't have system wide seniority. I don't know if anyone
besides the one going to Baltimore responded to permanent transfers
that CSX offered. He appears to be having second thoughts. All I've
read is people bitched about it. Everyone had an excuse. For those that
were let go during training these transfers didn't do them any good
they don't have established seniority. What is established seniority
to make a person feel secure? What's the cut off for not feeling
secure? I along with others transferred 30 years ago most of us had at
least 3 years seniority. When I look at rosters from where I started
there aren't a lot of familiar names of oldheads. Most likely they
tried to wait out the furloughes then eventually moved on to other
occupations. 

C&O Joe we read the word strike all the time on here. We read I'll sue
CSX or the union. It's all a load of crap. Your the first besides
myself to mention the Railway Labor Act (RLA) which prevents us from
striking. I don't think to many people on here actually know what the
RLA is. Most who have posted here tend to think this is a substitute
union meeting. Most have never been to a union meeting. If this
generation doesn't get involved they'll be trampled on seeing they
now hold the majority voting power. 

I don't think discussing and posting links of union discussions on
this website is good policy. Anyone has access. All you have to do is
read the header page on how many hits from company officials have been
recorded on this site the same goes for Facebook. The UTU should be
required to provide a secure "members discussion area" with
protection from outside sources. Like the WWII slogan "Loose lips
sinks ships".

Name: C&O JOE
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Posted: 21 February 2010

Like most of you I was totally baffled to find they were offering
permanant transfers to the WV Coalfields. I've been hearing the last
couple of months that they were anticipating the coal market to return
to or exceed 2008 levels but I wrote it off as a mix of yard office
rumor and CSX trying to impart false hope onto the masses. For me,
these transfer postings goes a little way toward assuring me that CSX
truely believes this to be the case. We've still got many guys in
furloughed and suspended training status but they're saying they'll
all be back by the end of april. Looking at the current situation I
find it hard to believe but based on my experiance CSX has been fairly
good at predicting the market 2 months in advance. I guess only time
will tell, but it's the first good news we've had in awhile. I'd be
leary of transferring unless I was a real new man though, Our roster is
deep as it is and if this agreement passes most could come here in a
year of so anyway and have prior rights at home to fall back on if it
went to hell. 

For the sake of conversation, let's hear everyone's solutions to all
the problems the unions have. Everyone has a big problem, I wanna hear
big solutions. I don't wanna hear the strike crap, everyone knows the
RLA prevents that in nearly all cases, I want real solutions to real
problems. It's unfortunate that by being bound to the RLA we don't
have the same luxaries that many other unions have, but it is what it
is. I liked the comment about "the unions allow them to hire people
when people are cut off" I see the logic in it, but it's crazy to
think they could prevent it. It isn't benificial to either the Carrier
or the union to have peope cut off and to think the union is reaping
some finnancial benifit from furloughed workers is crazy. I've spend
hours and hours trying to help what furloughed guys I could sneak off
the furlough list as I'm sure every other LC has. If you want to know
what your union does for you talk to a short line guy that does track
work, Engineer work, Brakeman work, Machinist work, and every other
kind of work 14 hours a day 6 or 7 days a week for maybe half of what
we make. So let's fix all the worlds problems right here on this
forum, everyone bitchs, let see who has the nack for fixing things.

Name: averagejoe
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Posted: 21 February 2010

still furloughed cubby

your probalby right about hearing about csx starting to hire again
while they have people furloughed.
the union does nothing about it though becuase once you are hired you
have to join the union or face bieng fired so yes i have said it once
and will say it again the union cares for itself
as long as they get thier dues they dont care where it comes from csx
can hire and furlough as much as they want as long as a certian number
of each respective union members are forced to pay dues the unions dont
care just like the company as long as they get thiers.
people bitch about csx and god knows i do too i dont even work their
used to be a dream but i am a very astute young man and after carefull
reading i came up with what i just said.
as long as the unions get thiers what the hell ever to the members now
im not saying do away with the unions im just saying as long as there
is enough members in service for the unions to still be profitable
there will be no change for the better of the working class men, no
strikes, no arguments hell it seems like anymore you feel lucky to have
the chance to sacrafice a finger to save a arm so i ask all of you is
that the meaning of a union
give them a little to sacrafice livelyhood what happens when we run out
of fingers then they take the arm and we feel lucky they didnt take the
other arm guys there isnt an end im not asking for answers just trying
to see if you can see where im coming from im likel the control i look
on from the outside read the contracts and weigh the options and the
options are as i just stated

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Posted: 20 February 2010

Please Read  if cut back or flowed back                                 
      Open enrollment begins November 1 for BLET Short Term Disability
plan 
CLEVELAND, November 2 — Open Enrollment for 2010 under the BLET’s Short
Term Disability insurance begins on November 1, 2009, and runs through
December 15, 2009. 

If you are a locomotive engineer working on a railroad that
participated in the Wage Rules portion of the national agreement dated
December 16, 2003, your coverage under Part A (described below) of the
BLET Short Term Disability Plan will automatically continue. 

Last year, if you opted out of Part B coverage (also described below),
then you can opt back in during this enrollment period. If you
currently participate and wish to opt out of Part B coverage, you can
also do so during this enrollment period. 

Part A — Non-Occupational Disabilities

Effective January 1, 2010, there will be no changes to Part A coverage:


• Your eligibility and $40 premium is submitted by the railroad on a
monthly basis.
• Part A pays $402 per week for non-occupational disabilities only. 
• Occupational disabilities are not covered. 
• Each eligible member is insured for $50,000 of Accidental Death and
Dismemberment (AD&D) coverage. 

Part B – Occupational Disabilities

Effective January 1, 2010 there will be no changes to Part B coverage:

• Part B is voluntary. Participation in this additional occupational
coverage is not required. 

• The weekly benefit for occupational disabilities is $402 per week. 

• Each eligible member is insured for $50,000 of AD&D coverage. 

• The benefit is not subject to repayment upon receipt of a FELA
settlement (no repayment after a personal injury settlement).

• The benefit is not considered taxable income.

• The cost is $23 per month and will be payroll deducted with your
monthly union dues.

NOTE: UTU members working as engineers are eligible for Part A and may
purchase Part B coverage by making an annual payment of $276 to the
BLET Trust Fund.
**************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
IMPORTANT:

• Eligibility for Part B is dependent on your eligibility for Part A.
In order to be eligible for Part A, you must have** ****seven starts in
a month with one start as an engineer.************
If you are furloughed to train service and become ineligible for Part A
coverage, you must notify the Secretary-Treasurer of your local division
immediately. At that time, you have three options: 

1. Continue coverage of Part A and Part B by paying $40 directly to the
BLET Trust Fund by the 10th of the month and continuing payroll
deduction of $23 for Part B. Coverage may only be continued for six
months under this option. If you choose this option, you will need to
contact the Plan Administrator (information below) for additional
instructions.

2. Discontinue coverage of Part B temporarily until you return to
engineer status and become eligible for Part A. An engineer, who loses
Part A coverage due to no fault of his own, may resume coverage for
Part B once he returns to engineer status and becomes eligible for Part
A. You must keep the Secretary-Treasurer of you local division informed
of your status.

3. OPT-OUT of Part B by completing an OPT-OUT form. If you choose to
opt-out of Part B, you may only resume coverage during a subsequent
annual enrollment period.
If you currently do NOT participate and choose to do nothing, you will
continue to be only eligible for Part A coverage. 

• If you currently do NOT participate and would like to sign-up for
Part B coverage during this open enrollment period, or if you do
currently participate and would like to opt-out of Part B coverage, you
must notify the Secretary-Treasurer of your local division by completing
and returning the attached form by December 15, 2009. Your election will
become effective on January 1, 2010.

• Members who OPT-OUT of Part B coverage effective January 1, 2010,
will not be eligible to enroll for the coverage until the next annual
enrollment period.

Anyone with questions can contact Jim Bradford, BLET Short Term
Disability Administrator, at (216) 241-2630, ext. 205, or email:
Bradford @ble-t.org. 

A copy of the opt-in/opt-out form is available below: 
http://www.ble-t.org/pr/pdf/STD-opt-inout.pdf



d  if cut-back or flowed-back

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 February 2010

Things must be picking up !

       http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=CSX&start=20

Name: still furloughed cubby
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 February 2010

everybody on furlough board is called back and yet me and the rest of
the cubs have not been called.  Called J-ville and lady told me it
would be next year and another said any day.  Do the folks in j-ville
not know what is going on? Rumor also has it they are going to start
hiring again which i assure you i would file a lawsuit if i am not
called back before then.  Wow what a company i walked into.  CSX
rocks!!!!!  yea!!!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 February 2010

Hey HTL:

Glad to know you're still alive and enjoying life. How does the Queen
feel about you squiring around the Blue Hairs?

It has been a tough Winter, even in Florida...the Bermudas haven't
seen much action, which might be a good thing.

Tony was so distraught with you leaving he just couldn't stand it and
retired.

Glad to hear you're enjoying the "good life"...it is a major change
in life style which many find to be a difficult transition, evidently
you weren't one of them. Thank God for "Blue Hairs".

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 February 2010

Damn Pop's posted. Hope life is good? I know it is. Enjoy!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 February 2010

NoMo

Life might of been simpler without all that crap it was a heck of a lot
nicer. We actually talked to each other in person face to face. We
didn't have 1000 friends on FB like anyone really does have that many.
We didn't ride around in our cars on cell phones because we were to
lazy to go over their house and visit. Cable TV was new an availible
only in certian areas it was 1982 before I got it. If all the
bullschidt blew up today we would have a generation that would be lost
staring into blank screens hitting worthless key pads/keyboards dazed
and confused. 

HTL, pop's in every now and then. He's enjoying life which hopefully
within the next 6 weeks I'll be doing the same.

Name: ht long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 February 2010

helloooo Nomo!!!!!!!

wow the first time I check this site out in months and your asking
about me!!!!!

I'm down here in Fl chasing blue hairs who have big bank accounts
because their hubbies worked themselves to death.

Its been a tough winter down here the worst in over a decade,not much
hanging out at the beach.

today Ive  read about the lack of life on the RR. and wonder how these
kids would handle being housed in a private home along with four other
men snoring away and having the owner up at 3 AM cooking you eggs while
scratching her arse with the spatula things have changed ....the
discipline is terrible I dont know if I could work with a 22 year old
TM as a boss.

I know several conductors  who are past 60 who dont know what they
would do after being in the RR workaholic / chasing the buck.....all in
all today I look back and cant fathom living the way I did for 40 years
but to answer the age old question......Is retirement really that
good?......BETTER!!!!
lets see what am I going to do today?...........ANYTHING I WANT TOO!

In about a month or two Ill pack up and head back north and listen to
how  terrible winter was......and wait to rake my leaves and return to
the palm trees next year

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 February 2010

Hey Loco 30+:

Outside of it being 30 years ago, life was a lot simpler then...no PCs,
cell phones, Twitter and cable was a novelty. There really wasn't a lot
to do except work.

The men and women that are transferring today are the ones that have
committed to a RR career and will retire in 35 or 40 years. the rest
will fall by the wayside.

Speaking of the B&O and being furloughed for years, what has happened
to HTL? I guess those early bird specials a Shuffleboard games must
agree with him!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 February 2010

NoMo

It does bring back some good memories. It wasn't bad we were all
working the road so there was activity all the time with people getting
called to work and those getting back 24/7. At times it was like Blazing
Saddles always a pot of beans on the stove. The most important thing is
we did what we had to do to survive. Some of us if we stayed up north
would of ended up if we were lucky to work a few months out of the year
or worse furloughed for years. In 1987 we had a group of engineers
transfer from Cleveland, Ohio off the B&O Railroad some had been
furloughed for 7 years. What's happening today isn't new it's
happened before.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 February 2010

Hey Loco 30+:

10-12 swingin' dicks in a 1 bedroom apartment! That ain't a pretty
picture first thing in the morning. Of course if you trying to save
money your were eating a lot of beans and rice...so that's what caused
the hole in the ozone!

For some reason I thought of the movie "Blazing Saddles" with all the
Cowboys sitting around the camp fire eating beans and...

The very thought of those days has to bring a smile to your face.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 February 2010

moving

I have to agree with NoMo look at it as an adventure. I remember 30
years ago in 1980 when 40-50 Yankees from Michigan an Ohio transfered
to Virginia without a clue. We had groups of 10-12 people sharing one
bedroom apartments real Animal Houses no furniture a TV and a bunch of
sleeping bags till we could get situated by saving money to move our
families ect...most stayed a few went back. You'll find a small
percentage in Baltimore who'll resent your moving but they'll be
plenty of others who'll welcome you. There's only one person you have
to contend with and that is you. You're there for one sole purpose to
make money the rest is bullschidt.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 February 2010

Hey Moving:

The working conditions are what they are. You accepted the transfer and
therefore the working conditions. Odds are they won't be any
different.

The Summers will be cooler and the Winters will be colder. Less rain
and lots of snow. There will be people everywhere...more crime and the
cost of living will be substantially higher.

35 miles from D.C. 400 miles to Boston...it'll be a different view
than what you're use to. There will be new things to see and do,

Go in with a open mind...I know there is some trepidation but just
think of it as a adventure. You'll be just fine.

Name: moving
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 February 2010

i being transfed to baltimore in the next 2 weeks does anyone have any
advice, or know anything about baltimore work conditions?   PLEASE help
...........

Name: No Ethics at CSX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 February 2010

I have been with this outfit for 7 years now and have worked in multiple
locations. This is the only outfit that will bring or hire or transfer
20 people into a location only to be in the process of trying to
eliminate 30 jobs in the same location. And they ask every year on the
pod tests "Do you think CSX is an ethical company?" I'll let those
with the experience decide.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 February 2010

Hey loco 30+:

The unions need to learn that you never bring a knife to a gun fight.
You will always lose!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 February 2010

NoMo

What BLE/UTU lawyers? These negotiations are done by the General
Chairmen who might have taken courses at the George Meany Center. It's
a difficult match with Harvard and Yale educated attorneys. CSX will
lose money to make a point. It's not about doing the right thing
anymore it's more about winning at any cost. The more you learn about
union negotiations the more it becomes baffling. The national doesn't
really do anything they might dispatch a VP who is only an observer the
main negotiations are left up to the GC's. I've been to many union
meeting where both GC's and VP's have attended when asked a question
their response is always the same that their function is that of an
observer not as a particapant. Even LC's have been thrown back by such
remarks. That's why I tell people to get involved with their union by
going to monthly meetings we might not be able to do anything about the
big picture but we can try to make change locally. A current issue we
have is increasing local dues by $10 a month. CSX by playing hardball
has drained our local funds with excessive investigations. In January a
motion was made for an increase and was seconded. A total of 11 people
out of 93 bothered to show up to the Febuary meeting. The previous
month a motion was made to allow absentee ballots not one was sent. The
vote was delayed till March. I objected the process was being curtailed.
If people don't want to get involved then let a minority make the
changes for them. How do you get people motivated? The majority today
has less than 5 years on the railroad. They like to bitch and moan
that's it they don't want to get involved.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 February 2010

Hey Loco 30+:

What a cluster...it's like CSX is trying to force people out.
$7000 doesn't begin to cover the cost of relocating if you own a
house. With the real estate market the way it is today, $7,000 probably
won't cover the loss on the current property let alone incidental
expenses.

CSX's lawyers did their job. The question is why didn't the BLTe and
UTU's lawyers do theirs?

Any one who thinks CSX won't use any leverage they may get out of the
Southern consolidation needs a reality check. CSX will cut as many jobs
as they can but only when it suits them, which may be years from now!

It's Lundi Gras today...Laissez les bons temps rouler!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 February 2010

NoMo

I don't remember any problems in 2007 with the voting process other
than the small percentage of those who voted. The former Conrail
territories in the Northeast corridor through their General Chairmen
opted out of the SSA going with the national contract. CSX didn't have
a single system agreement. Which brings us to what is happening now with
CSX shutting down and relocating terminals that way the former Conrail
engineers will be incorporated into the SSA with new seniority zones.
Terminals in New York will end up based out of Pennsylvania and Ohio.
All one can hope for is dove tailing seniority. It's going to be a
huge mess. From my own experience we had a big percentage of our
freight pools relocated back in 1996. CSX offered no moving packages.
The BLE tryed to get CSX to buy our homes and help fray the cost of
moving. We lost. The UTU was little more giving those who opted to move
would recieve $7000 the catch was the move had to be within a 50 mile
radius of the new home terminal. Some had already moved halfway within
driving distance for a 2 hour call to be not so far from family they
didn't know it wasn't close enough and recieved nothing. It was
hidden in the fine print. The high priced CSX lawyers did their job.

Name: skippy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 February 2010

Sweet i sure will be marking "no" on my ballott i was just kinda mad i
didnt think id be mailed anything thing or have anywhere to vote

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 February 2010

HEY SKIPPY...When you get a ballot in the mail..Mark  an x in the "no"
box and stick the ballot back in the mailbox...no postage necessary!!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 February 2010

Hey Loco 30+:

I thought there were similar issues several years back when the initial
proposal was voted on and the northern lines rejected it?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 February 2010

NoMo

I was referring to the BLE SSA extension last year. Those who cryed
foul over the votes being counted if they actually were done that
Sunday one day in advance didn't send in ballots or sent them out to
late. Ballots had to be recieved by that Saturday no ifs, ands, or
buts. Either way it was their own fault. There was plenty of advance
notice to get it done in a timely manner.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 February 2010

Hey Loco 30+:

Was it the extension or the initial vote?

50% just won't get it. The 50% that don't vote will be the ones that
cry the loudest. It might take a hour to read it. A lot of people just
don't want to take the time.They depend on hearsay or the summary to
decide on a vote that will effect them the rest of their careers.

In regards to being "independent" goes, I just question how 
"Independent" they can be when some one is paying for their
services.

With regard to your comments yesterday concerning the bid system and
the boards. Unless the BLEt and UTU versions are substantially
different...can the BLEt version allow CSX to manipulate the boards the
way the old head conductor suggested the UTU version can?

The railroads plan decades in advance, they are very patient. CSX's
agenda is to put all the contract employees under agreements like the
SSA. In my opinion it would be counter productive for CSX to start
exercising their rights until all the contract employees are under a
SSA type contract. The term "Poker Face" comes to mind. There's
something up CSX's sleeve and it not there to help the employees.

Hope for the best but plan for the worse!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 February 2010

NoMo

What happened with the BLE SSA extension the final count of the ballots
was to take place on Sept 14th which was a Monday morning. I didn't
agree with them counting it on Sept 13th that Sunday but technically it
was an accurite vote. Some people waited to the last minute to send in
ballots if they weren't recieved by Sept 12th that Saturday it didn't
count. Ballots were mailed out at least a month in advance the
information packet we already had for at least 2 months. By the time
the ballot arrived I had already made up my mind it was mailed the next
day. There was no excuses to procrastinate.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 February 2010

Don't vote if you think it doesn't matter. What does it take 5 minutes
to place an "X" on a ballot then mail it. If an independant agency is
hired to count ballots they don't have an interest in the outcome.
Voting on a contract is no differant than a presidential election
people are to lazy to do it. Why the low percentages in the turnout of
voters? A union contract is about your livelyhood your ability to earn
a living to support yourself and your family. Like I stated before the
union banks on only a 50% return of ballots. That group is either for
it or opposed pick your side then place that "X". If a person chooses
not to vote then they don't have a right to complain. If you don't
recieve a ballot call the LC they'll get you one.

Name: skippy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 February 2010

Thats kinda crappy not telling people where or when to vote seems to me
why even bother after hearing all this i know its rigged

Name: Corn-ductHer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 February 2010

NoMo

Maybe he is really Dr. Brown Banana now.   I thought he was educated.

Sounds like a Kentucky HillJack but again he did go to some Jr College
in Alabama so I guess it fits.    Be sure to watch his speech on video
and you will see he sounds similar to Mr Haney on Green Acres.

Just a Dumb Corn-ductHer

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 February 2010

Looks like Tony has been awarded something almost as prestigious as the
"Brown Banana"!

Name: tony Ingram
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 February 2010

Hello Railroad Fans

I wanted to inform you of my new title.   So you can address me as I
should be.    Sorry I had to leave CSX but Mikey and I got into a
disagreement.   I tried to screw Mona.  Should have taken that Viagra
pill for breakfast.


http://www.ucumberlands.edu/media/release.php?rk=686

I did not need a Harvard degree after all.

Dr. tony Ingram

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 February 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

I understand how frustrated you get. The question becomes what can be
done? I believe, based on the CSX statements on 1/19 and the SEC filing
of 2/11 it's done deal. The fix is in!

There will be paper ballots that have to be returned, or you can vote
over the phone. The UTU has retained an "independent" Firm, most
likely an accounting firm to verify the election results.

If I recall, when the BLEt SSA was voted on, the election results were
announced before the election period closed. Additionally only about
half of the members voted.

The UTU has a fiduciary obligation to represent their membership.
If they fail to there is recourse. Look at the SMART agreement, 
Mike Futhey contested that on a technicality. Although it's not
over (legally) it's is for all intent dead. Remember also that Futhey
was newly elected and needed to ingratiate himself to the members.

Be ready to challenge the results because they will not be favorable.
Be prepared for a fight. It will be necessary to seek injunctive relief
so start passing the hat. The point is to delay the implementation until
the nation agreement is announced so a comparison can be made.

Also plan a strategy on charging the GC's. These guys are responsible
for the current working conditions!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 February 2010

Cond 1-10

Don't get frustrated to the point you don't believe your vote counts.
We had a vote sheet with a breakdown last year on the extention for the
BLE SSA. Across the system at every BLE division it was the same on
average only 34% sent in ballots. The unions expect 50% to vote which
they consider a high turnout. Who's to blame? I hear the same familiar
retoric "it's already passed why vote" "the unions are corrupt there
bought out". Bullschidt!!!! It's attitudes like these that cause the
passage of substandard agreements. CSX is comprised of several factions
SCL, LN, C&O, Conrail, WM, B&O ect...There are those who'll look at pay
increases on runs over 130 miles as a big factor. Which happened in the
BLE. The SSA doesn't help locals, yard jobs, and road jobs with 130
mile basic days. You mentioned the 1986 UTU crew consist to this day no
one admits voting for it. The same goes for the 1994 crew consist. Those
two agreements did away with jobs by eliminating brakemen slots and the
locomotive firemen. The fears about the bid system cutting jobs is a
myth. The downside is people could get forced away from their home
terminal within the seniority zone. Every job gets filled and the
lowest seniority might not have a choice. People still mark off the
extra board pretty much stayed the same.

Name: skippy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 February 2010

Where do you go to vote is the ballott sent in the mail or is it at a
union meeting?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 February 2010

To no-mo.
just had to vent, frustrated cause voted no on smart merger along with
ever co-worker I've talked with, which and passed until overturned. 
Voted no on previous (06) agreement, and same as before passed with
flying colors although everyone said that they voted against it.  And
now up for grabs the quite possibly the most detrimental agreement to
trainmen since the 1986 agreement.  I think there is something to worry
about. And to everyone out there eligible to vote, Know that not voting
counts as a yes vote!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 February 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

It's already been posted...if you have something constructive to add,
please do it; otherwise please do us all a favor and stop re-posting
it. It has been read and I hope understood.

The author obviously knows how CSX and the UTU works. Knowledge like
that comes from years of experience on the RR and active
participation in the union.

I hope his insight inspires more members to become active in the union;
after all it's a young man's railroad and therefor up to them
to decide how they want to work!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 February 2010

Consolidated Southern Region Agreement
Dear Fellow UTU Members,

We stand facing a choice on whether to vote for or against a new
agreement. A union is a faternal organization, a body of brothers and
sisters working towards a unified goal. We are, however, scattered
across the southeastern United States, separated by both miles and the
hectic work schedules railroaders face. I saw a need to help overcome
the many obstacles preventing opinion sharing in the ratification
process, That’s why I have created this blog where you can insert your
ideas and let your voice be heard by other members. What follows is a
little about me and my opinions. They are just that, opinions based on
what I have read of the agreement and my past experience.

I am an old UTU member and very proud to be an employee of the former
L&N Railroad. I was, in my time, very active in the union and am well
versed in the jobs that union officers are required to do on a daily
basis. I have also seen, in my thirty-five years of service, exactly
how CSX operates. I come to you, not to sway your vote one way or the
other, but to share with you my concerns regarding the proposed
Consolidated Southern Region Agreement. I know that you have, or will
be, bombarded with hard sell and scare tactics to get the agreement
ratified. I beg you to please read the agreement and make a decision on
your own, a decision not based on the cries of doom you will hear but on
the face value and intent of the agreement and the alternatives which
have not been mentioned in detail.

My biggest concern is the impact on newer employees. It seems that
CSX's plan is to cut costs by cutting their manpower needs, reducing
the number of train service employees on the payroll, and by squeezing
all they can out of the employees that remain. Their attack on the
UTU's junior members is nine pronged and all nine involve CSX's
desire to increase profits, control our lives, and make us what they
feel would be perfect employees.

The first prong of the attack would come with giving CSX the ability to
use utility employees where ever they want. Any place they must work two
man jobs because of topographical issues, they will change them to one
man jobs with a utility man scattered here and there. The L&N Crew
Consist Agreement prevents them from doing that and we have kept many
employees working as a result. That will change with this agreement and
the impact (furloughs) will probably be seen as soon as they figure out
where they can make the switch.

The second prong involves the removing of up to 20% per year of the
protected employees from the blankable positions they now hold.
Presently there are senior employees holding blankable brakeman/helper
positions on preferred jobs, allowing junior employees to work as the
conductor/foreman. CSX will simply pick those preferred jobs as their
first 20% and force the senior employees off the assignments. Unless
there is another preferred job blankable position available for the
displaced senior man to go to, he will go to a preferred
conductor/foreman position. The result will be that the junior man is
furloughed. Even though that senior employee is being a good guy by
keeping a junior employee working, the agreement's Side Letter 8 makes
him out to be a bad guy by withholding the increase in road switcher
rates for everyone at that location (Art 45 C) as long as he is holding
a blankable position. I am shocked that a side letter would be signed
that pits members against members and destroys solidarity.

The third prong is EBS which, as they learned when they implemented it
with the engineers, will reduce the number of train service employees
needed at a location by doing away with practically all displacement
time. There will be no claiming vacancies and seniority moves on any
day other than a JAD. There will be no staying displaced for a while to
catch your breath from working. You will be expected to work the days of
the assignment taken or forced by EBS, take paid leave (P/L D/V), or be
subjected to the attendance policy. Consider the total time that
employees have been in displaced status over the past month at your
location and the extra employees that worked while they were displaced.
The need for those additional employees will go away when EBS is
implemented.

The fourth prong is CSX making it financially punitive for an extra
board employee to mark off (loss of one week guarantee and Individual
Performance Award) for unpaid leave. If no employee on the extra board
ever marks off for non-compensated time off, they will need fewer extra
board employees.

The fifth prong is aimed at employees on regular assignments in an
attempt to keep them marked up. The threat of loosing their Individual
Performance Award for a six month period could make an employee not
take any unpaid leave. No unpaid leave means no extra board work and
fewer extra board employees needed.

The sixth prong involves yards where the standard five day work week is
replaced with a 12/3 and 10/4 work schedule. Although you were told that
any implementation of the 12/3 and 10/4 schedule would have to be
mutually agreed to, there is no language in the agreement that would
require it. I would strongly suggest that, if it were the intent of the
agreement to require a mutual consent, a side letter is signed detailing
what exactly would be required before a five day work schedule is
changed. Even though the immediate impact of going 12/3 10/4 would be
slight (1 job loss for every 15 converted), a person on one of the 12/3
positions will never mark off because CSX will stick him two ways. The
first is where his pay from the previous days worked will drop from the
guarantee of 13 hours and 20 minutes to the time actually worked at the
straight time rate. If the poor guy worked 12 hours the two days he
worked he would be paid 24 hours for he week, losing 16 hours of his
guaranteed 40. Pretty stiff for making off one day. Second, if he takes
a P/L day off, they will take a full two P/L days from his allotment for
the one day. With 11 personal leave days per year, he could only take
five days off before ran out. The five days he could not take off would
be a week of starts for an extra board person.

The seventh prong is CSX gaining the ability to work a yard job any
time of the day or night. Yard extra board employees would have to
remain available for call twenty-four hours per day and not, as it is
now, just during calling times. If CSX were to call outside the
historical calling times, the extra board employee would have to take
the call which might just happen to be a road trip.

The eighth prong is that yard extra board employees would have to
remain available and work after they had made their five straight time
starts for the week. Before this agreement, any such overtime work
would be voluntary. After this agreement the work would be mandatory.

The ninth prong would be forcing the implementation of Furlough
Retention Boards. I know of no L&N property that has implemented a FRB
since the side letter was signed, and for good reason. Most Local
Chairmen know it is simply a CSX tool to have an extra board to
supplement an extra board. Rather than put the poor guy on normal extra
board, why not just string him along at almost minimum wages, save the
guarantee, and keep the real extra board cut to the bones.

Being attacked from nine directions, the junior employees cannot, and
will not, fare very well. It's simply a matter of CSX applying the
agreement if it is ratified by the membership. The collective
bargaining agreement would rule and the furloughed employees would have
no recourse. That would be only if the agreement was voluntarily
ratified.

You all have heard the threats of the agreement being forced on you by
a cram down if rejected. Why didn't CSX simply serve a coordination
notice at the onset? The answer is simple, and green, MONEY. There is a
volume of documents that provide employee protection and benefits in
just such cases.

If the membership voluntarily agrees to a single agreement of their own
free will before a consolidation notice is served, it would be handled
like any other collective bargaining agreement. Under those conditions,
the adversely affected employees would fall prey to what they and their
fellow members had agreed to. However, if CSX serves a consolidation
notice, any employee adversely affected by the coordination could claim
protection as provided for by New York Dock. Rrather than the agreement
tossing the new employees out with nothing, they might enjoy some of
the many wage and benefit New York Dock guarantees. That just might get
them by until the economy recovers and enough older employees retire.
Those protections would also apply to working employees who are forced
to lower paying jobs, forced to move to another location, have their
home terminal moved, or other ways.

There are other items in the agreement that cause me concern which you
should consider.

Even though it wouldn't apply to post 85 employees, there are no
provisions in the agreement for air hose pay (currently $2.09 on the
L&N). Those payments will no longer be made if the agreement is
ratified. An employee on a five day job who works 244 days a year (less
5 wks vacation and 11 PL days) will lose $509.96 the first year. That
being the case, his lump sum payment would really only be $490.04 each
of the two years paid as he would have earned the $509.96 of that money
anyway that year. If the employee earned $200.00 per day, that loss
would equate to a 1% cut in pay each year after the lump sum payments.
It's just a shell game.

The change I would hate the most would be having to start my vacation
on Saturday to match up with JAD and EBS. As it is now, we can mark of
in conjunction with our off days. Unless you can hold a job with
Saturday and Sunday off, you go from a nine day vacation to a seven day
vacation. Who the heck wants to observe two off days, come back and work
one day, and then start seven days of vacation (Wed & Thu off days).

Even though you were told that there will be no extra board guarantee
deductions for RSIA additional time off, that too is another shell
game. Read Note 3 of Article 37. An employee on is on an extra board
that is guaranteed $850.00 per week. The first week of the pay period
he earns $1400.00 and works seven days in a row. His last start brings
him back to the home terminal where he starts the second week by
observing his rest day and two additional RSIA days off. After the RSIA
days off, he works three times and earns $600.00 for the week. He would
be due $250.00 in guarantee, right. Wrong. CSX would apply his earnings
the first week that were over the guarantee amount ($650.00) to the
second week's earnings in computing guarantee and he would get
nothing. CSX wants a weekly guarantee but wants to calculate it as a
bi-weekly guarantee when it suits them.

I'm sure you, like me, have some local agreements that are near and
dear to your heart. Many provide additional pay and more favorable
working conditions. If ratified, two General Principals of the
agreement would apply. First would be that "The following rates, rules
and regulations will govern the pay and conditions of employment of
Conductors, Trainmen, and Yard employees." The second is that "The
parties acknowledge that this Consolidated Southern Region Agreement
also replaces any and all local agreements, past practices, and
arbitral jurisprudence that are in conflict unless otherwise agreed as
provided for in Side Letter 9" will take effect. Read Side Letter 9
and Moratorium Provisions C. Any local agreement CSX decides is in
conflict would be history, subject to the DRC and arbitration if
needed. If you are on a pool that now gets held away after less than 15
hours, it raises to 15. It is unknown how CSX will attack local
agreements, if they will go after local guarantee rates, special
arbitraries, or whatever else they can get away with. That battle is
yet to be fought and it will be uphill all the way. Who knows what will
actually happen.

To date, trip rates have never went down, only increased with wage
increases. This agreement requires that the trip rates for road
switcher/mine runs be reviewed and adjusted every six months for the
first two years (Art 45 E). Do you really think they will be adjusted
up? Should there be a change in operations, CSX can use their
"experience" to decide a new trip rate for the members. That seems
more than a little scary.

The proposed agreement does not alter the existing national agreements,
only system agreements (see Moratorium Provisions C). One of the
National Agreements that will remain intact is the 1986 National
Agreement that denies arbitraries to post 1985 employees with the
following –

Section 5 – Duplicated Time Payments
Duplicate time payments, including arbitraries and special allowances
that are expressed in time or miles or fixed amounts of money, shall
not apply to employees whose train or engine service seniority is
established after the date of this agreement.

What I have seen so far gives me heartburn in two ways. The first is
that the post 1985 members are being promised all of the arbitraries
included in the agreement and CSX will refuse to pay them, You could
see CSX claiming they are duplicate time payments and not applicable to
post 1985 employees by the 1986 national agreement which was not changed
(see Art 31 Sec 3 E 3, Art 36 A D Q2, and others). The second is that
the agreement takes what had been contract violations, which resulted
in penalty payments that were payable to post 1985 employees, and makes
permissible with an arbitrary (duplicate time) payment to be made to the
employee. For example and as it is now, a post 1985 yard employee who
leaves the yard to perform pusher service submits a claim (8 hrs) for
the agreement violation and the claims have been paid. Article 38 H
changes that by making it permissible in an emergency and allows an
arbitrary payment of one hour or time/miles. Not only will there be
less pusher assignments but the claim could be reduced to a one hour
arbitrary and possibly not even paid to a post 1985 employee. Just like
the 12/3 10/4 yard schedule, I would suggest that you get a side letter
stating that all arbitraries in the agreement are payable to all
employees, both pre and post 1985. CSX would have no problem of
providing one if that was their intent.

You should remember that the value of a Individual Performance Award of
CSX stock depends solely on the value of the stock at the time given and
should not be held as a set amount. The actual value of the award could
vary widely, depending on the market or forces such as stock splits. If
you are serving our country in the National Guard or Reserve, and have
weekend duty once every six months, you will never see an Individual
Performance Award until you hitch is up. Just CSX's way of saying
thanks for your service.

Please consider the above and again, demand a side letter be signed
that will assure that going to a 12/3 10/4 schedule is mutually agreed
to and that all arbitraries listed in the agreement are payable to all
train service employees regardless of their hire date. If CSX refuses,
then you will know what their plan might be.

These are my thoughts, and I encourage you to share yours with the
others here. Stay safe, your Individual Performance Award will depend
on it, and make sure you send your ballot back in to be counted.

Just an old railroader.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 February 2010

I forgot to mention the analyst for Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc., John
Larkin issued an upgrade on CSX after the conference.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 February 2010

In my post of 2/9 I stated..."Is it a secret or does the Union and CSX
already know the outcome of the vote and just trying to contain the
damages?"

In the SEC filing made yesterday after the Stifel Nicolaus
Transportation & Logistics Conference it was stated..."This
expectation is supported by strong volume and revenue growth, including
export coal shipments that could approach 30 million tons this year, and
strong operating ratio improvement as well."

http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1376783&highlight=

In CSX's 1/19 statement announcing the fourth quarter financial
results it stated..."Fourth quarter revenue of $2.3 billion was 13
percent down from the prior year. This was driven by a 7 percent
overall decline in volume as growth in the intermodal and automotive
sectors was more than offset by declines in coal and merchandise. In
addition, lower fuel prices led to decreased fuel surcharge recovery.
Despite these factors, core pricing remained strong, reflecting high
service levels and the overall value of freight rail transportation."

The statement continues..."The economy continued to show modest,
sequential improvement in the quarter," said Michael J. Ward,
chairman, president and chief executive officer. "CSX worked
aggressively on gaining operating leverage and further strengthening
the fundamentals of our business for the future." 

Finally it states..."In 2009, CSX put forth a decisive and effective
response to the challenging economy while simultaneously building for
the future," said Ward. "Our performance is a clear demonstration of
the resolve of our organization and the talents of our people." 

Is it me or does there seem to be some ambiguity in the statements
concerning coal. Is 30 million tons a record? The way it's written
would make you think so...but wait, coal shipmemts have declined
according to the 1/19 release.

Improving ratios result from growing your revenues while maintaining
your costs or reducing your cost while revenues are flat or declining.

It appears to me, based on those recent statements, CSX fully expects
the UTU consolidations to pass. Of course if they dont there is always
the disclaimer about foreward looking statements!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 February 2010

This might explain part of the bump up!


Form 8-K for CSX CORP 

11-Feb-2010

Regulation FD Disclosure

Item 7.01 Regulation FD Disclosure. 

At the Stifel Nicolaus Transporation & Logistics Conference, Oscar
Munoz, CSX's Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer,
today indicated the company expects to deliver double-digit earnings
per share growth for 2010. This expectation is supported by strong
volume and revenue growth, including export coal shipments that could
approach 30 million tons this year, and strong operating ratio
improvement as well.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 February 2010

Lets see what a little skillful manipulation can do for the price
of your stock.

CSX closed up $1.98/share or 4.60% with 7,810,605 shares traded.
The average daily volume over the last 3 months has been 4,062,510
shares.

Do you think the dividend increase announced yesterday, just before
Munoz spoke, was coincidental? Insider trading probably accounts for
the additional trading...check the SEC filing in several days to know
for sure!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 February 2010

Our union general chairmen are just a bunch of railroad puppets, there
is no way the could've asked for 90% on this shitty contract unless
somebody is filling up their pockets.  Hope they enjoy their blood
money

Name: Decide for your self
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 February 2010

Consolidated Southern Region Agreement
Dear Fellow UTU Members,

We stand facing a choice on whether to vote for or against a new
agreement. A union is a faternal organization, a body of brothers and
sisters working towards a unified goal. We are, however, scattered
across the southeastern United States, separated by both miles and the
hectic work schedules railroaders face. I saw a need to help overcome
the many obstacles preventing opinion sharing in the ratification
process, That’s why I have created this blog where you can insert your
ideas and let your voice be heard by other members. What follows is a
little about me and my opinions. They are just that, opinions based on
what I have read of the agreement and my past experience.

I am an old UTU member and very proud to be an employee of the former
L&N Railroad. I was, in my time, very active in the union and am well
versed in the jobs that union officers are required to do on a daily
basis. I have also seen, in my thirty-five years of service, exactly
how CSX operates. I come to you, not to sway your vote one way or the
other, but to share with you my concerns regarding the proposed
Consolidated Southern Region Agreement. I know that you have, or will
be, bombarded with hard sell and scare tactics to get the agreement
ratified. I beg you to please read the agreement and make a decision on
your own, a decision not based on the cries of doom you will hear but on
the face value and intent of the agreement and the alternatives which
have not been mentioned in detail.

My biggest concern is the impact on newer employees. It seems that
CSX's plan is to cut costs by cutting their manpower needs, reducing
the number of train service employees on the payroll, and by squeezing
all they can out of the employees that remain. Their attack on the
UTU's junior members is nine pronged and all nine involve CSX's
desire to increase profits, control our lives, and make us what they
feel would be perfect employees.

The first prong of the attack would come with giving CSX the ability to
use utility employees where ever they want. Any place they must work two
man jobs because of topographical issues, they will change them to one
man jobs with a utility man scattered here and there. The L&N Crew
Consist Agreement prevents them from doing that and we have kept many
employees working as a result. That will change with this agreement and
the impact (furloughs) will probably be seen as soon as they figure out
where they can make the switch.

The second prong involves the removing of up to 20% per year of the
protected employees from the blankable positions they now hold.
Presently there are senior employees holding blankable brakeman/helper
positions on preferred jobs, allowing junior employees to work as the
conductor/foreman. CSX will simply pick those preferred jobs as their
first 20% and force the senior employees off the assignments. Unless
there is another preferred job blankable position available for the
displaced senior man to go to, he will go to a preferred
conductor/foreman position. The result will be that the junior man is
furloughed. Even though that senior employee is being a good guy by
keeping a junior employee working, the agreement's Side Letter 8 makes
him out to be a bad guy by withholding the increase in road switcher
rates for everyone at that location (Art 45 C) as long as he is holding
a blankable position. I am shocked that a side letter would be signed
that pits members against members and destroys solidarity.

The third prong is EBS which, as they learned when they implemented it
with the engineers, will reduce the number of train service employees
needed at a location by doing away with practically all displacement
time. There will be no claiming vacancies and seniority moves on any
day other than a JAD. There will be no staying displaced for a while to
catch your breath from working. You will be expected to work the days of
the assignment taken or forced by EBS, take paid leave (P/L D/V), or be
subjected to the attendance policy. Consider the total time that
employees have been in displaced status over the past month at your
location and the extra employees that worked while they were displaced.
The need for those additional employees will go away when EBS is
implemented.

The fourth prong is CSX making it financially punitive for an extra
board employee to mark off (loss of one week guarantee and Individual
Performance Award) for unpaid leave. If no employee on the extra board
ever marks off for non-compensated time off, they will need fewer extra
board employees.

The fifth prong is aimed at employees on regular assignments in an
attempt to keep them marked up. The threat of loosing their Individual
Performance Award for a six month period could make an employee not
take any unpaid leave. No unpaid leave means no extra board work and
fewer extra board employees needed.

The sixth prong involves yards where the standard five day work week is
replaced with a 12/3 and 10/4 work schedule. Although you were told that
any implementation of the 12/3 and 10/4 schedule would have to be
mutually agreed to, there is no language in the agreement that would
require it. I would strongly suggest that, if it were the intent of the
agreement to require a mutual consent, a side letter is signed detailing
what exactly would be required before a five day work schedule is
changed. Even though the immediate impact of going 12/3 10/4 would be
slight (1 job loss for every 15 converted), a person on one of the 12/3
positions will never mark off because CSX will stick him two ways. The
first is where his pay from the previous days worked will drop from the
guarantee of 13 hours and 20 minutes to the time actually worked at the
straight time rate. If the poor guy worked 12 hours the two days he
worked he would be paid 24 hours for he week, losing 16 hours of his
guaranteed 40. Pretty stiff for making off one day. Second, if he takes
a P/L day off, they will take a full two P/L days from his allotment for
the one day. With 11 personal leave days per year, he could only take
five days off before ran out. The five days he could not take off would
be a week of starts for an extra board person.

The seventh prong is CSX gaining the ability to work a yard job any
time of the day or night. Yard extra board employees would have to
remain available for call twenty-four hours per day and not, as it is
now, just during calling times. If CSX were to call outside the
historical calling times, the extra board employee would have to take
the call which might just happen to be a road trip.

The eighth prong is that yard extra board employees would have to
remain available and work after they had made their five straight time
starts for the week. Before this agreement, any such overtime work
would be voluntary. After this agreement the work would be mandatory.

The ninth prong would be forcing the implementation of Furlough
Retention Boards. I know of no L&N property that has implemented a FRB
since the side letter was signed, and for good reason. Most Local
Chairmen know it is simply a CSX tool to have an extra board to
supplement an extra board. Rather than put the poor guy on normal extra
board, why not just string him along at almost minimum wages, save the
guarantee, and keep the real extra board cut to the bones.

Being attacked from nine directions, the junior employees cannot, and
will not, fare very well. It's simply a matter of CSX applying the
agreement if it is ratified by the membership. The collective
bargaining agreement would rule and the furloughed employees would have
no recourse. That would be only if the agreement was voluntarily
ratified.

You all have heard the threats of the agreement being forced on you by
a cram down if rejected. Why didn't CSX simply serve a coordination
notice at the onset? The answer is simple, and green, MONEY. There is a
volume of documents that provide employee protection and benefits in
just such cases.

If the membership voluntarily agrees to a single agreement of their own
free will before a consolidation notice is served, it would be handled
like any other collective bargaining agreement. Under those conditions,
the adversely affected employees would fall prey to what they and their
fellow members had agreed to. However, if CSX serves a consolidation
notice, any employee adversely affected by the coordination could claim
protection as provided for by New York Dock. Rrather than the agreement
tossing the new employees out with nothing, they might enjoy some of
the many wage and benefit New York Dock guarantees. That just might get
them by until the economy recovers and enough older employees retire.
Those protections would also apply to working employees who are forced
to lower paying jobs, forced to move to another location, have their
home terminal moved, or other ways.

There are other items in the agreement that cause me concern which you
should consider.

Even though it wouldn't apply to post 85 employees, there are no
provisions in the agreement for air hose pay (currently $2.09 on the
L&N). Those payments will no longer be made if the agreement is
ratified. An employee on a five day job who works 244 days a year (less
5 wks vacation and 11 PL days) will lose $509.96 the first year. That
being the case, his lump sum payment would really only be $490.04 each
of the two years paid as he would have earned the $509.96 of that money
anyway that year. If the employee earned $200.00 per day, that loss
would equate to a 1% cut in pay each year after the lump sum payments.
It's just a shell game.

The change I would hate the most would be having to start my vacation
on Saturday to match up with JAD and EBS. As it is now, we can mark of
in conjunction with our off days. Unless you can hold a job with
Saturday and Sunday off, you go from a nine day vacation to a seven day
vacation. Who the heck wants to observe two off days, come back and work
one day, and then start seven days of vacation (Wed & Thu off days).

Even though you were told that there will be no extra board guarantee
deductions for RSIA additional time off, that too is another shell
game. Read Note 3 of Article 37. An employee on is on an extra board
that is guaranteed $850.00 per week. The first week of the pay period
he earns $1400.00 and works seven days in a row. His last start brings
him back to the home terminal where he starts the second week by
observing his rest day and two additional RSIA days off. After the RSIA
days off, he works three times and earns $600.00 for the week. He would
be due $250.00 in guarantee, right. Wrong. CSX would apply his earnings
the first week that were over the guarantee amount ($650.00) to the
second week's earnings in computing guarantee and he would get
nothing. CSX wants a weekly guarantee but wants to calculate it as a
bi-weekly guarantee when it suits them.

I'm sure you, like me, have some local agreements that are near and
dear to your heart. Many provide additional pay and more favorable
working conditions. If ratified, two General Principals of the
agreement would apply. First would be that "The following rates, rules
and regulations will govern the pay and conditions of employment of
Conductors, Trainmen, and Yard employees." The second is that "The
parties acknowledge that this Consolidated Southern Region Agreement
also replaces any and all local agreements, past practices, and
arbitral jurisprudence that are in conflict unless otherwise agreed as
provided for in Side Letter 9" will take effect. Read Side Letter 9
and Moratorium Provisions C. Any local agreement CSX decides is in
conflict would be history, subject to the DRC and arbitration if
needed. If you are on a pool that now gets held away after less than 15
hours, it raises to 15. It is unknown how CSX will attack local
agreements, if they will go after local guarantee rates, special
arbitraries, or whatever else they can get away with. That battle is
yet to be fought and it will be uphill all the way. Who knows what will
actually happen.

To date, trip rates have never went down, only increased with wage
increases. This agreement requires that the trip rates for road
switcher/mine runs be reviewed and adjusted every six months for the
first two years (Art 45 E). Do you really think they will be adjusted
up? Should there be a change in operations, CSX can use their
"experience" to decide a new trip rate for the members. That seems
more than a little scary.

The proposed agreement does not alter the existing national agreements,
only system agreements (see Moratorium Provisions C). One of the
National Agreements that will remain intact is the 1986 National
Agreement that denies arbitraries to post 1985 employees with the
following –

Section 5 – Duplicated Time Payments
Duplicate time payments, including arbitraries and special allowances
that are expressed in time or miles or fixed amounts of money, shall
not apply to employees whose train or engine service seniority is
established after the date of this agreement.

What I have seen so far gives me heartburn in two ways. The first is
that the post 1985 members are being promised all of the arbitraries
included in the agreement and CSX will refuse to pay them, You could
see CSX claiming they are duplicate time payments and not applicable to
post 1985 employees by the 1986 national agreement which was not changed
(see Art 31 Sec 3 E 3, Art 36 A D Q2, and others). The second is that
the agreement takes what had been contract violations, which resulted
in penalty payments that were payable to post 1985 employees, and makes
permissible with an arbitrary (duplicate time) payment to be made to the
employee. For example and as it is now, a post 1985 yard employee who
leaves the yard to perform pusher service submits a claim (8 hrs) for
the agreement violation and the claims have been paid. Article 38 H
changes that by making it permissible in an emergency and allows an
arbitrary payment of one hour or time/miles. Not only will there be
less pusher assignments but the claim could be reduced to a one hour
arbitrary and possibly not even paid to a post 1985 employee. Just like
the 12/3 10/4 yard schedule, I would suggest that you get a side letter
stating that all arbitraries in the agreement are payable to all
employees, both pre and post 1985. CSX would have no problem of
providing one if that was their intent.

You should remember that the value of a Individual Performance Award of
CSX stock depends solely on the value of the stock at the time given and
should not be held as a set amount. The actual value of the award could
vary widely, depending on the market or forces such as stock splits. If
you are serving our country in the National Guard or Reserve, and have
weekend duty once every six months, you will never see an Individual
Performance Award until you hitch is up. Just CSX's way of saying
thanks for your service.

Please consider the above and again, demand a side letter be signed
that will assure that going to a 12/3 10/4 schedule is mutually agreed
to and that all arbitraries listed in the agreement are payable to all
train service employees regardless of their hire date. If CSX refuses,
then you will know what their plan might be.

These are my thoughts, and I encourage you to share yours with the
others here. Stay safe, your Individual Performance Award will depend
on it, and make sure you send your ballot back in to be counted.

Just an old railroader.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 February 2010

It's 10:40 EST Munoz Spoke at 8:40 EST the stock price is up $1.82 so
far. The BOD increased the Quarterly dividend 9%.


http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1386771&highlight=

Nothing like a little skillful manipulation to get things moving!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 February 2010

Hey Loco 30+:

The view certainly is different, especially if you've been on the
inside for a while. You spend so much time at work you really don't
have time to ponder the dynamics of your union. It is assumed that the
union leadership is representing their members best interests, when in
fact the leadership is only interested in themselves.

I think the change in the union's focus has been so gradual, over the
last 20 years, the members haven't realized it. I fear the process is
too far along to correct. It's time to start over again. In my
opinion, with no more T&E employees than there are and craft
consolidation a single well funded union is necessary. Strength in
numbers or, if you will, the herd mentality.

Of course, it's up to the current union's membership to take the
steps necessary to make the change. Unfortunately the herd mentality is
alive and well in the both unions...follow the leader. The current
leaders are running head on toward a cliff, might need a new Alpha to
take control.

If you ain't the lead dog, the view never changes!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 February 2010

NoMo

It's a case of being from the outside looking in. Thing's look
different from this angle. When you're at a union meeting a member
whose cut back ask a question and the BLE(T) LC states he'll talk to
the UTU LC to see what can be done. It goes to what I've stated
several times a person should belong to the union that controls their
craft. In todays railroad that can change weekly. This poses problems
that the unions have refused to make adjustments. Their quest isn't
providing a decent contract providing protection ect...it's more about
keeping members which means money. I know, I've adamently rejected the
notion in the past about any mention of forming one union. I realise
now I come from another era of railroading and what once worked isn't
working today. The internal an external strife of the unions has hurt
the membership. They lost their vision.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 February 2010

Hey Loco 30+:

Has Hell frozen over...have pigs flown:)

Name: Who Dat Who This
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A
Posted: 11 February 2010

http://www.newser.com/story/80540/craigslist-pimp-get-25-years.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=inbox&utm_campaign=newser

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 February 2010

When a union loses it's focus it's time for change. Unfortunately the
negotiating powers for the trainmen an engineers are recognized by the
carriers on old standards UTU for trainmen BLE for engineers. Those
from other crafts joining the opposing union is just a symbolic
gesture. Everything from claims, contracts ect...are still left up to
the controlling union. Seeing times they are a changing maybe cleaning
house is in order. This year for the first time in the BLE history the
membership will vote for their national leadership. Already emails are
being circulated from General Committees using scare tactics to curtail
the voting process. I will admit it could be a difficult situation not
having access to the candidates and the west coast having the majority
voting power. The past practices of GC's having complete voting power
hasn't worked. The BLE made fun of the UTU when Ex-President Boyd and
former President Little were convicted and incarcerated for bribery
only to see our own BLE(T)presidents were just as corrupt. We've read
for quite sometime of those on here looking to form new unions it's a
new generation. It's happened before the UTU isn't that old if memory
serves me right the UTU has only been around for 36 years compared to
the BLE which has it's roots going back to 1863. With the climate
changes in railroading with forced dual craft seniority maybe it is
time to join forces. I'm begining to see the problems associated with
it when people ae bounced from craft to craft without knowing who the
hell is providing them protection.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 February 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

We all understand how important this is. We read all the topics so
it's not necessary to repeat the posts under each topic!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 February 2010

hey loco 30+ plus years you are right about the ns contract . CSX wants
this bid system bad , if we vote this down they will want to go back to
the table . The younger men need to realize the bid system will cut 10%
of the work force , so back on the street you go.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 February 2010

Hey Loco 30+:

Yeah...it must be top secret stuff, NSA or CIA type negotiations.
Hostage negotiations...yeah, that's it. The UTU and CSX are holding
the ground service personnel's standard of living hostage.

What really dumbfounds me is the UTU has left their membership out of
the loop. If the union had a modicum of common sense they would
had each affected local form a committee to determine what is important
to them and make recommendations to their GCoA which could be
incorporated and presented to the carrier.

Not that the carrier would agree to all the recommendations; but the
final proposal would be better for all parties and would most likely
pass with ease. Why? Because the membership had a opportunity to
participate in the process that directly impacts them. 

As it stands now, the membership is pissed and distrusts the UTU
even more now than before...probably more than they distrust CSX.

The UTU leadership is its own worse enemy...instead of including the
membership in the process and making it a positive negotiation; they
have excluded them and it becomes a negative. A house divided.

My Grandfather use to tell me "cooperate and graduate". Looks to me
like the UTU needs a few more lessons!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 February 2010

That's a good question NoMo. Why didn't the UTU inform the members of
negotiating this SSA the past 3 years? It's no different than the BLE
it was kept secret. I know a lot of engineers regretting their decision
to vote for it the first time. They see the stagnant wages compared to
the 14 1/2% increase from the national they could of had on Jan 1st if
they rejected the extention. When the BLE negotiated the first on
property with the NS with these productivity bonuses the members
rejected the first offer it was renegotiated with a better contract. If
CSX wants this and the members vote it down they'll do the same. If
they don't nothing lost the UTU will continue with the national.
Someone has to make a stand.

Name: me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 February 2010

just got the call to move to baltimore from florida panhandle is b-more
working or being sent home ? please let me know i will be moving my
wife and five kids to a new place and i need to be working...thanks in
advance............

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 February 2010

Get your vasoline ready boys!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 February 2010

NoMo you are 100% correct.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 February 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

I'm not suggesting anyone vote for the UTU version of the SSA; just
that the membership read and understand it. I thought the BLEt SSA was
a lousy deal when it was released. If I recall correctly, the SSA was
ratified with somewhere around 50% of the members returning ballots. If
I had to venture a guess, I would think that a large percentage of the
yes votes wish they voted no.

If I had a vote, I would vote no, too many unanswered questions.
The GCs and the LCs will tell what a great contract it is...that's
their job. If it's such a great deal why are the affected GCoAs and
CSX not willing to wait until a national agreement is reached so the
members can compare them side by side? They won't because they both
know the SSA can't compete with the national agreement.

If the Union has been negotiating a SSA with CSX for three years,
why haven't we heard about it before a month ago? Is it a secret or
does the Union and CSX already know the outcome of the vote and just
trying to contain the damages?

The membership better set their differences aside and stand united,
regardless of age or time of service, because the UTU and CSX are
getting ready to cornhole the membership!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 February 2010

That's right No Mo if u make over your guarantee . Last half I did beat
my guarantee but this half I'm not , so if this contact passes and I 
need off for a emergency I loose my Guarentee. Plus a 6% pay raise over
a 5 year period that starts 2012 ; if u get in trouble (not only stayin
marked up) you loose your stocks ! We don't even get a bonus until
2013 !!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 February 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

Years ago when I worked the Extra Board, in yard and road service, if
you marked off you lost your guarantee. So how it it any worse?
Only difference is no more time floating.

Even if I marked off, I always had enough starts to beat the guarantee.
Thankfully the boards were full of employees more interested in not
working than earning a living.

I guess nothing changes!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 February 2010

VOTE NO !!!!! THE UTU TOOK THE ENGINEER CONTRACT AND MADE IT WORSE FOR
US . MARK OFF ANY TIME DURING THE WEEK AND LOOSE YOUR GUARANTEE NOT
JUST THE WEEKENDS. IF U READ THE SIDE LETTERS YOU CAN SEE WHAT EACH
GENERAL CHAIRMAN GOT FOR THIS CONTRACT. LETS STAND TOGETHER AND VOTE NO
!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 February 2010

CSX train blocks Fla. houses 
CALLAHAN, Fla. -- A Florida woman, 66, said she has to crawl between
two railroad cars to go anywhere from her home after being trapped by
the cars, according to UPI. 
Aretha Brown said a train parked 40 cars on the tracks that run in
front of her Callahan house Dec. 27 -- and just left them there, the
Jacksonville (Fla.) Times-Union reported Saturday. 

Brown said she must crawl under the cars even to go to her mailbox, or
else walk 20 minutes to get around the train. She struggles to keep her
Sunday best clean when she goes to church. 

It's very difficult making her way under the train with a bag of
groceries, the newspaper reported. 

"My house is falling apart and I can't get anyone to come and make
repairs because they won't climb under the train," Brown told the
Times-Union. 

She said she banged her shoulder crawling under the cars and it hurt
for weeks. 

Brown said her parents bought the old white house more than 30 years
ago. Her sister and niece, Mae and Rita Hailey, lived in an adjoining
house before they moved out in frustration a few weeks ago. Her
brother, Frank Cheavers, still lives in the adjoining house. 

"I really don't think anyone would want to buy this," she laughed
when asked if she would sell the homes. 

Mae Hailey said she asked CSX Transportation to move the cars, or at
least disconnect them in front of Brown's house, but the railroad
declined to do so. 

CSX preferred to locate a new destination for the train, and also
intends to build an access road that would permit Brown to reach the
street without having to cross the tracks, CSX spokesman Gary Sease
said.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 February 2010

The UTU was negotiating this SSA 3 years ago. That didn't surprise me.
I overheard a conversation from the VP at CMC in JAX in 2008 that the
trainmen would be in the bid system within a few years. I'm not a fan
of on-property contracts it seems this is the route the unions are
going. They're taking away power in numbers. Biggest obsticle from my
own experience with the BLET SSA is people today aren't willing to
sacrifice and go the distance for 2-3 years with national negotiations.
It's a generation of "we want it now" from microwave dinners to cell
phones to cell phone internet and music videos ect...Where has patience
and determination gone? Those with decades left to work have the voting
power. I can bet like the BLET SSA extention last year only 33 1/3% of
the UTU membership will bother to send in ballots. The other 66 2/3%
will bitch about it. It's not a matter of wether you like the unions
or not it's about a contract that you'll be working under for the
next 5 years. It's about the ability to make a living. The engineers
are jumping for joy the UTU screwed the trainmen worse than we got it.
No pay raises till 2013 no productivity bonus till 2013 only a $1000
bonus on July 1st for two years. What did the UTU sacrifice to make
such a deal? That's what I'd be asking.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 February 2010

Joshua/Nomo...hey facts are facts.  If you have little time left, this
contract sounds pretty good.  Problem is, if you have more than 10
years left on the railroad it will only go down hill.  Once the
railroads see they have the unions by the balls (which they already do)
they will do whatever they can to grab the upper hand.  

IT WILL TAKE A STRIKE TO MAKE THINGS BETTER

No matter how you look at things.  It has gotten to this point. 
Our unions have failed us and that is the honest truth.  We can sit
here and play the blame game all night about which union, but they both
play an equal part in doing their share of stuffing their own pockets
while the men on the ground get shafted. 

It's the way the world works right guys?  The little guys get screwed
while the people with power have the advantage?  It's the same reason
our whole economy is in shambles.  People with power make the
decisions, and people with power get greedy.  The question is..who will
be the man who finally stands up and says enough is enough?  Who will
gather a group big enough to take a stand?  It will take someone who
has nothing to lose, nothing to gain.  The little man needs a voice,
who will finally do something about it?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 February 2010

Hey Joshua:

You're not going to have much of a life regardless of which contract
you end up working under. Vote on its merits.

Of course you will never see the National proposal unless the UTU SSA
is voted down!

Name: jOSHUA
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 February 2010

VOTE THE CONTRACT DOWN! IF YOU WANT A LIFE (MORE THAN WE HAVE HAHAHA)
VOTE IT DOWN!

Name: Wildman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 February 2010

We had a spill a few years back.The whole yard got shutdown for a few
hours and all the tracks in the area were out of service for a month.
That's why CSX didn't want anybody finding out about the
spill.Chlorine will go back to a gas and dissipate eventually but the
solvent that spilled in our yard stays as a liquid at roon temp. and
hangs around for years.If the leak was small and no cloud was really
visible I'm sure they were hoping that the public would only get a
whiff of a bleach type smell and pass it off.

If you really wanted to screw CSX you should've called channel 13 and
gave them a heads up.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 February 2010

I would just like to ask the question on why CSX says safety first. Last
night a chemical spill happened, Chlorine, and no one that lives next to
the yard here in Russell KY was made aware of the danger. They made sure
their employees were fine but what about the families that live right
there. It goes to show that CSX only cares about their selfs and no one
else. Plus when we seen a CSX official he said O it was very minor and
wasn't anything that could have caused harm, but yet another CSX
official kindly told us to stay inside and that they had all there
employees inside so they could clean up the big spill and it would be
harmful if the gas came our way.......Goes to show you how big
companies treat the communities that they are in.

Name: David
E-mail: truepath2000@yahoo.com
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 February 2010

Hello, I just wanted to submit my story.

I went through the management trainee program. I got great reports from
all the facilities I trained at. I wanted to work for CSX, family
reasons, since I was a child. when I got my first assignment I was
told, by the shop manager, that he did not like "my kind" and that he
"would find a reason to terminate me." I am of Native American decent,
I am very proud of my heritage. I went to HR, my supervisor in the
program and the district mechanical manager all to no avail. Now I will
not lead this story astray, I made mistakes at the shop. I asked many of
the other managers and shop managers I had spent time with and was
informed that the mistakes were rookie mistakes, no big deal.
I had my dream stolen from me. During orientation we were told that we
were the future of the company. That we should not be afraid to make
mistakes, that was why we were in training, that our first assignment
woulde still be under the trainee program. 
I miss my career. I have been trying to clear this up, through internal
channels, for quite some time now. The vast majority of people I met
were wonderful, ethical and followed both the mission statement and
core values.
Thank you all for your time.

Name: David
E-mail: truepath2000@yahoo.com
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 February 2010

Hello, I just wanted to submit my story.

I went through the management trainee program. I got great reports from
all the facilities I trained at. I wanted to work for CSX, family
reasons, since I was a child. when I got my first assignment I was
told, by the shop manager, that he did not like "my kind" and that he
"would find a reason to terminate me." I am of Native American decent,
I am very proud of my heritage. I went to HR, my supervisor in the
program and the district mechanical manager all to no avail. Now I will
not lead this story astray, I made mistakes at the shop. I asked many of
the other managers and shop managers I had spent time with and was
informed that the mistakes were rookie mistakes, no big deal.
I had my dream stolen from me. During orientation we were told that we
were the future of the company. That we should not be afraid to make
mistakes, that was why we were in training, that our first assignment
woulde still be under the trainee program. 
I miss my career. I have been trying to clear this up, through internal
channels, for quite some time now. The vast majority of people I met
were wonderful, ethical and followed both the mission statement and
core values.
Thank you all for your time.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 February 2010

Name: No Mo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 February 2010

Watch and see if the stock doesn't get a pretty good bump after this
and the flurry of insider trading that follow...probably need the
money
to pay their tax liabilities!


It is all about Corporate Bonuses,  Mike needs another 20 million  


Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 January 2010

CSX Insiders Avenue  STOCK ANALYSIS REPORT 
Analysis by Internal Employees  – 2010 Feb 05
http://www.csx-sucks.com
Industry: Railroad
Sector: Transportation
Recommendation: Sell   NEVER BUY  CSX has No Mo Jo
Price: NA
Target Price: Always Sell Short to make Money
52 Week Low-High: 
Fundamentals Grade: B 
Investment Style: RISKY
Consider Buying: After a 45% drop in stock price.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 February 2010

Wasn't Workman's Daddy the former Atlanta Division VP then in charge
of Operating Practices. Probably explains why he hasn't been
fired...he has kin in high places!

There ain't nothin' like long coat tails to pull you through the
rough spots in life!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2010

Deo volente


Hawthorne yard is in meltdown.It is no wonder when the industry jobs
ar
never made up,short on power,the track lists never jive,etc.etc.It is
a
miracle that Workman(Hawthorne's do nothing trainmaster)has not been
fired.  How about that dumbass YardMaster too.


"Tom Cook was 200% CSX and he would write you up for farting wrong
but he took care of the customers"   Tom Crook stole money from CSX
and you tell us he is 200% CSX    Sounds like a crock of shit.  Maybe
you and Tom had something going on with the customers too.

Best to work the Road than "Whorethorn"

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 February 2010

Watch and see if the stock doesn't get a pretty good bump after this
and the flurry of insider trading that follow...probably need the money
to pay their tax liabilities!


CSX Corporation Chief Financial Officer to Address Stifel Nicolaus
Transportation and Logistics Conference
 
JACKSONVILLE, Fla., Feb 04, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Oscar
Munoz, CSX Corporation (NYSE: CSX) executive vice president and chief
financial officer, will address the Stifel Nicolaus Transportation and
Logistics Conference in Key Biscayne, Florida on Thursday, February 11,
2010 at 8:40 a.m. Eastern Time. 
Mr. Munoz's presentation will focus on the company's financial
performance and core strategies to better position the company in the
evolving transportation marketplace. 

Investors may listen to the presentation via a live internet
audio-webcast at
http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/conflobby.zhtml?ticker=CSX&item_id=2702584,
or visit the CSX website at http://investors.csx.com. A replay and
accompanying audio will be available within one hour after conclusion
of this event. 

About CSX

CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is one of the nation's
leading transportation companies, providing rail, intermodal and
rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network
spans approximately 21,000 miles, with service to 23 eastern states and
the District of Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river and
lake ports. More information about CSX Corporation and its subsidiaries
is available at the company's web site, www.csx.com. 

SOURCE CSX Corporation 
 

  http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-analysts

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 February 2010

Deo volente

What is happening at Hawthorne is the same in every yard on CSX. The
reduction of yard jobs then going one man remote CSX feels the industry
jobs should be able to switch out and classify their own train get the
work done all without making overtime. I've seen yard crews relieved
after 7 hours at industries when there is no other yard job to finish
the work. Customers end up calling the TM or higher because their
plants have to shut down because the delivery wasn't done. Our TM
isn't any different he accuses the crew of intentional delaying the
work. When you only have a yard foreman on the ground with no switchmen
working 12-15 industries plus having to switch out the train before
departing it doesn't take a genious to figure out the work isn't
going to get completed. We don't have management today that
understands they are all "yes" men who do as there told.

Name: Todesengel
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 February 2010

DEAR pm-r
  Eddie VanDyke's last day at Hawthorne was Jan 22.The story was a
trainmasters job opened up for him down south,but his bosses here in
Indy refused let him go.So he quit as a manager.

Name: Deo volente
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 February 2010

Hawthorne yard is in meltdown.It is no wonder when the industry jobs ar
never made up,short on power,the track lists never jive,etc.etc.It is a
miracle that Workman(Hawthorne's do nothing trainmaster)has not been
fired.Tom Cook was 200% CSX and he would write you up for farting wrong
but he took care of the customers.He is now blaming the crews for his
inability to run the yard.Anyone with any railroad experience knows
that is how the game is played;blame the men for YOUR
incompetence.Hello Mr Brown or Ms Sandborn.....Hawthorne Yard is in
serious need of housecleaning!!!! I know this may come as a shock;but
without customers we won't have a railroad!!!!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 February 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

Your story isn't unique...sounds like thousands of others, me
included. It's water under the bridge now...forget about it and move
on. You'll be in engine school soon enough and at the bottom of the
roster once again!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 February 2010

I went to work for CSX approx 4 years ago.I paid $5000.00 plus room and
board for schooling, lost wages for 6 weeks.All in all it cost me
$10,000 plus for a job that wasn't worth squat. Quit a job I have been
at 15 plus years for what. To be told I will be treated like a person
with good pay and benifits! Hah! Laid off twice in the 2 years I was
there, couldn't even get railroad unemployment the first year I was
there as I wasn't there long enough. Was continually denied valid
claims of labor agreements by them, denied my first year vacation pay.
Safety was a joke, working two shifts in one day, continually being
forced to do things because of producing what they want. I hardly ever
called of work but employees that did were taken care of. Intimidated
when I spoke up and voiced my rights. If you believe anything they tell
you you will be sorry. Worst 2 years of my employment life.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 February 2010

Brakeman less than 1,

         You will be recalled. When they first started this training
suspended crap we cried fowl and quoted the agreement as say that
training would be for a period of not less than 16 CONSECUTIVE weeks,
therefore they could not suspend your training. The company agreed and
made a proposition, either we let them suspend your training or they
would terminate you seniority upon promotion, which they can do for the
first 60 days without reason. They promised to keep everyone as long as
we allowed the to do what they did and under the circumstances we
didn't have much choice.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 February 2010

I find this interesting...is CSXT taking credit for creating 1400 jobs
in 18 States because of the availability of the CSX system?

I guess the businesses had nothing to do with their own success.

Smoke and mirrors...some feel good for the market, keep the price of
the stock pumped up! 


CSXT Economic Development Efforts Drive Job Creation
 
JACKSONVILLE, Fla., Jan 25, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Placing a
substantial vote of confidence in rail transportation, customers
committed to 92 new or expanded facilities on CSX Transportation (CSXT)
lines in 2009. Upon completion, these projects will create nearly 1,400
new jobs.
 
Located in 18 states and across markets that include energy, consumer
goods and manufacturing, the projects ultimately will contribute $138
million in revenue, said Fredrik Eliasson, vice president-emerging
markets. The facilities will be built on both CSXT lines and on some of
the more than 230 short lines and regional railroads that connect to
CSXT. 

"These projects collectively represent more than $3.2 billion in
customer investments in new and expanded businesses on our network,"
Eliasson said. "These outstanding results are a vote of confidence in
CSX as a vital link in economic recovery and one of the most
environmentally friendly transportation modes." 

In addition, 73 customers who had committed to new or increased rail
traffic in 2009 and prior years began moving goods and commodities that
at full production will result in more than $210 million in revenue. 

Trains are capable of pulling a ton of freight 436 miles on a gallon of
fuel. That fuel efficiency and CSXT's market reach, including
connections to more than 70 ocean, lake and river ports, help customers
and economic development agencies find sites for a variety of
businesses. 

CSXT offers site location assistance for rail-served projects as well
as track design and logistics expertise. In addition to direct
rail-served sites, the company offers TRANSFLO transload services that
can connect non-rail served shippers to the North American rail
network. 

A state list of the larger projects is attached. 

CSX Transportation Inc. is a principal operating company of CSX
Corporation. CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is one of
the leading transportation companies, providing rail, intermodal and
rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network
spans 21,000 miles with service to 23 eastern states and the District of
Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river, and lake ports.
More information about CSX Corporation and its subsidiaries is
available at the company's web site, www.csx.com. 

CSXT Supports Development in States

CSX Transportation supported significant economic development across
its network, the largest rail system in the East. These states
represented some of the projects, jobs and customer investment. 



    State            Jobs Created  Customer Investment
    -----            ------------  -------------------
    Alabama                   209         $158,500,000
    Florida                   376       $2,174,710,000
    Georgia                   332         $151,750,000
    Illinois                    3           $1,150,000
    Indiana                     -             $300,000

    Kentucky                    8          $10,700,000
    Maryland                   30         $290,840,000
    Michigan                    6           $2,000,000
    New Jersey                 13         $255,120,000
    New York                    7           $3,840,000

    N.C.                        -             $750,000
    Ohio                      154          $47,355,000
    Pennsylvania               14           $3,275,000
    S.C.                      220         $153,000,000
    West Virginia               1              $50,000



SOURCE

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 January 2010

Hey Stacy.....WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK BUT YOU....Get over it....Take it
to Jerrry Springer or something...we don't care!!!

Name: pm-r
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 January 2010

Anybody know what is going on with TM eddie vandyke.  Rumor is he is
comming back to being a conductor here on the PM side after resigning
his local chair position a couple of years ago to become a TM???

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 January 2010

Hey Stacey:

Let me get this straight..."Wow is it a surprise that Tammy Zembower
has already been seen cheating on Billy Gray in his truck at Sheetz?
saw it with my own eyes".

Cheating on Billy in his Truck? What a low life Skunk Molly. Sounds
like she and Tiger both need rehab!

The cute girl probably couldn't suck the chrome off a bumper!

Name: Stacey
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 January 2010

Wow is it a suprise that Tammy Zembower has already been seen cheating
on Billy Gray in his truck at Sheetz? saw it with my own eyes. He
should have known better. What ever happend to the cute girl he was
dating? He should have stuck with her.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 January 2010

Hey Brakey <1:

You didn't say where your home terminal was...but I don't believe
CSX has to recall you. Although they might if business picked up
rapidly, it won't so I would seek other suitable employment.

CSX like most other large public companies only cares about thier image
in relation to how Wall St. sees it. The public sees railroads
as loud inconveniences which are necessary evils. Unless they know
someone employed by a railroad, they are oblivious to the employees.
When you consider that 10%+ of the working public is involuntarily
unemployed, the answer is no...CSX doesn't care what the public
thinks!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 January 2010

I just want to ask a question and get some answers from guys who have
worked for CSX as a trainman in regards to those men who were suspended
during their on the job training.  Is CSX required to call those men
back or can they start again with hiring back off the streets, and
would it not benefit CSX to come along with a buyout for those
employees who are under a protected status and get the majority of
those furloughed and suspended back.  Does CSX not care about their
public image especially when men were suspended during trainning.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 January 2010

Imagine that!

http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2010/01/18/daily26.html?ana=yfcpc

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 January 2010

Cond 1-10

Who are you going to hurt? Not CSX by putting off marking up on recall.
The attitude of "I'll show them, I'll just stay furloughed for 30
more days" is pretty stupid if you ask me. If you're drawing
unemployment that ended when you were formally notified of recall. Only
reason I could see for not immediately marking up is to give 2 weeks
notice if you were working another job. If you don't accept the call
or if they send you a registered letter and you fail to pick it up your
terminated. If anyone has changed addresses since being furloughed
contact the railroad or get on the Gateway and put in the correct one.
That too is a way of getting terminated. From the sound of things I
don't know why some are waiting for the railroad. If you hate them
then don't go back. I can assure you things haven't improved the
harrassment has increased more rules have been added and discipline is
at an all time high. Then again where can you make this kind of money
without a higher education.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2010

Alright all you unhealthy railroaders...it's definitive:

http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=50479

so shape up and live longer:

http://www.medindia.net/news/Ogle-at-Boobs-for-10mins-a-Day-and-Live-5yrs-More-61949-1.htm

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 January 2010

Loco Eng. 10-20

   With guys like Kent, Cody, and L.C. Darin why call guys back.

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 January 2010

They are not calling any of our guys back. We have been outof engineers
for two weeks now and they keep cutting back and cutting back!

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 January 2010

I hope that each fourloughed employee will wait as long as possible to
mark up when recalled.  Dont do any favors this is the problem! They
think that we are wrapped around there finger! Sad to say that most
are!




On the call: CSX COO discusses costs of recovery

CSX COO says rail won't be hit hard by costs to bring back workers,
trains as economy recovers

 
        20, 2010, 12:10 pm EST 
NEW YORK (AP) -- As the economy spun into a recession, railroad
companies parked train cars and placed thousands of workers on
temporary leave to keep costs low. Now that an initial recovery appears
to be under way, analysts are questioning how much money it will cost
companies to restart trains and rehire workers.

David Brown, chief operating officer of CSX Corp., addressed the issue
in a conference call with analysts Wednesday:

QUESTION: When shipping volume improves, will you have significant
startup costs to bring back workers or pull train cars out of storage?

RESPONSE: "There's not really a huge cost in starting those resources
back. We have locomotives to bring back in position fairly quickly. We
have a lower level of maintenance that we do, so we have them in
serviceable condition. (The return of) furloughed employees is also
happening relatively quickly. Railroad jobs are generally very good
jobs. It does take a few weeks of additional training, to make sure
they are ready to work safely, and then we bring them back relatively
quickly, at a fairly low cost, so it's not a big number for us to
handle either one of those resources.

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 January 2010

Lloyd

I'm sure Mike Ward sleeps very well. Most people they've never been
through these economic downturns. Those of us who've been around the
past 30+ years have been through it already on the railroad. Some of us
had to transfer others waited it out some moved on to other occupations.
You're blaming the railroad when 10+% of America is unemployed. It's
not just CSX include all class 1's. If anything is learned from this
experience it should be moderation. That when things turn around for
the better it should always be in the back of one's mind that things
could crash again. It should make a person stronger. I haven't worked
in over 6 months waiting on a disability retirement. I haven't a clue
about anything yet. I might end up back to work which if that happens
someone will get furloughed. I do know some could of worked other
locations within their seniority zone. They chose not to under bad
advise from co-workers or maybe the LC because the UTU still has the 30
mile radius where one can't be forced. I still read here advise not to
take transfers. Everything in life is a risk fear of the unknown is
part of human nature. Sometimes we have to overcome our fears and take
that risk. I know 30 years ago a lot of us left our homes and took a
risk to transfer. Some couldn't handle it went back home and remained
furloughed for years or moved on to ther jobs. Some of us stayed and
worked. We make our own destiny no one can take that from us.

Name: C&O JOE
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 January 2010

Attn all suspended Trainees and long term furloughed Trainmen,

        As I mentioned in previous post, The Consolidated Southern
Agreement which binds the former C&O, SCL, L&N, and all the little
southern roads was distributed today to the LC. The carrier has
promised you guys first refferal on the many Signal and Maintnance jobs
that will be created to install and maintain the PTC. They project 100
jobs in my area alone. It won't be a solution for everyone, but it
will for many.

Name: slim
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Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 January 2010

Quess i better start looking for a new job then ;[

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 January 2010

Some comments from David Brown and Michael Ward!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34956472

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34956349

Name: Lloyd
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Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 January 2010

Hey furloughed, be careful you don't jump the gun even if they do offer
transfers in the near future.  You could take one and then get laid off
once you uproot where you are now.  What really f'n amazes me is how
they gloat about their record profits and the percentage of profit
increase while hundred, maybe thousands of men are out of work with
even some without the option of unemployment from the railroad.  How
does our government even allow this horseshit go on?  When is somebody
going to step in and stop the fucking madness.  Sleep well tonight
Mikey Ward, you greedy pile of shit.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 January 2010

Name: slim
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Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 January 2010

How long does the company have to file charges against you for a
violation let use an example here ;] attendance polcy if i layed off
for a couple weeks then was furloughed can i still be invesgated after
being called back or do they only have a certain amount of time to
charge me ive allways wondered about this


To this CO. You can be Re-called into servisce and be charged with the
attendance policy, depending on your Terminial Manager. 
I know a guy that was charged for a lost radio 5 years after he was
issued a replacement .. ALL depends on which shithole you work at ..
snd your shithead Trainmaste UNlikely but possible

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 January 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

Yeah the economy sucks but CSX has and will continue to run trains with
thin staffing to keep their margins up, expenses low and the executives
salaries and bonuses up:

http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtmlc=92932&p=irolnewsArticle&ID=1376783&highlight=

"Total operating expense for the quarter was $1.7 billion, down 12
percent from the prior year. These savings, driven primarily by strong
safety, service and productivity, contributed to operating income of
$583 million for the quarter. 

"The economy continued to show modest, sequential improvement in the
quarter," said Michael J. Ward, chairman, president and chief
executive officer. "CSX worked aggressively on gaining operating
leverage and further strengthening the fundamentals of our business for
the future." 

CSX also announced full year 2009 earnings from continuing operations
of $1.14 billion, or $2.87 a share, versus $1.5 billion, or $3.66 a
share, for 2008. 

The company continued to improve its network efficiency and safety in
2009, while reducing full-year operating costs by 20 percent compared
to 2008. As a result, CSX posted a record annual operating ratio of
74.7 percent. 

"In 2009, CSX put forth a decisive and effective response to the
challenging economy while simultaneously building for the future,"
said Ward. "Our performance is a clear demonstration of the resolve of
our organization and the talents of our people." 

Even after the economy turns around, don't expect to see staffing at
previous levels

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 January 2010

I was just up this morning to do my daily check on the furlough board
for any hope that I may be recalled! I noticed at my home terminal
there were 5 more conductors furloughed. I don’t know who to blame
anymore. The people want to blame the Obama Administration, The
Railroad is acting as if there’s no problem at all which they are
probably clueless to the fact anyway and others say a bad economy. My
problem with a bad economy is that the economy should not whatsoever
affect the use of coal. I know exactly from what an insider explained
to me was that our trains was being rerouted to provide others the
opportunity to work at freight areas where business has dropped
severley.I have an opinion on that one that may differ from allot of
you. I think that the hopper/coal trains should stay on there original
routes. I think if you want to work you pick your shit up and move to
another terminal to work. I think if you don’t want to do that than
your ass can sit at home on the couch. I would go to another terminal,
but I’m shit out of luck on that one!

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 January 2010

That's no surprise. I knew back in 2008 that CMC was getting prepared
for the trainmen to get placed under the bid system. I heard that
directly from the VP of CMC. Do you really want to stray away from the
national contract? Do you think a bid system gaurentees you a job?
It's not that great. Speaking just for my area some engineers are
being forced to work away from home. If there are opening no one bid on
the junior person can be forced. Also, if you're forced it's like
bidding in the job CSX has no obligation to pay for lodging. People
didn't read the fine print you must bid in all jobs which the system
allows you to bid up to 85 positions. I'm sure CSX would want one
issue erased which the UTU still has the 30 mile radius. If a SSA type
contract has been negotiated read it over carefully not just the
highlights on page 1 but the entire thing from cover to cover. I think
in 2007 a lot of engineers just read the cleff note version. Then cryed
over not understanding it in it's entirety.

Name: C&O JOE
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 January 2010

C&O, L&N, Georgia Road, and GM TRAINMEN,

      An SSA type agreement has been reached between CSX and the
respective general committies. It will be released to all LC in the
next day or so and the membership next week. The respective parties
withdrew from National negotiations to avoid any chance of a
consolidation notice like the one served on Conrail recently. It is
very similar to the BLE SSA and includes the bid system, system
seniority, and bonus program. You will read about it in the coming days
and you should have a copy in the next couple of weeks.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 January 2010

Hey APE 10-20:

If that was a Hostler job, I hope the engineer 1st out is filing a
claim every time it happens and the LC is screaming blood murder!

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 January 2010

Well with all the people furloughed now we have the road foremen of
engines moving trains in  clifton forge. Thats a sure way to speed up
one man crews. How does that work with new hours of service rule? When
will he be marked up and ready to move another train????How far is the
union gonna let this go?

Name: Jsmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 January 2010

I am in the process of writing a book about CSX and there so called
safety policy, the harassment and intimidation and all the horror
stories of how they have treated employees. If you guys want to share
your stories feel free to email me at jsmith14449@yahoo.com. I only
want true stories, not hear say or rumors. Need to be factual
information. I promise you your name will not be mentioned anywhere,You
dont even have to leave your name. If you setup a private email all I
ask is that you check it later on to see If I contacted you with any
questions.
I wonder how much trouble I will get in by writing the book, I really
dont care they can sue me if they want I dont have anything to lose, I
had to have surgery and a month later they fired me.

Please Email with your stories of this stinking company

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 January 2010

The big dumb goober finally jumped ship and joined the little puke.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 January 2010

Hey Joe:

Whether neo-liberal or ultra conservative there are plenty of talking
heads with opinions they want to share with us; promoting their own
agenda, whether we want to hear it or not. Too many TV channels and not
enough programming.

Opinions are like assholes...everyone has one!

Name: C&O JOE
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 January 2010

Nomo,

      Your probably right. Ever since Obama got elected I've had
trouble mustering the nerve to watch the news. I can't listen to these
neo-liberal douchbags rant about global warming anymore, it makes me
want to crawl up in a dark place and die.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 January 2010

Damn Joe!!, You go boy!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 January 2010

Hey Joe:

The union officials went to Washington to justify their jobs and the
dues the members pay. I doubt seriously that any union members come
close to the threshold, whether single or married, to having their
insurance benefit taxed...unless of course they are union officials.

I thought there was also a $200 thousand income threshold (married)
before any taxes would be assessed.

The union bosses simply put on a dog and pony show for the rank and
file. Their big success was getting their membership, or should I say
themselves, exempted through 2017.

Nothing is as good or bad as it appears...this is no exception.

Name: C&O JOE
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 January 2010

It's on plans VALUED at $23,000 a year for a family. The total cost of
our plans (NRC/UTU) through CSX is about $1,200 a month and my
understanding is that's just the medical part. It is also my
understanding that there's more to how they figure the value than just
premiums alone. If plans such as ours arn't going to be taxed then why
did all our union leaders and the AFL-CIO make a special trip to DC to
slam Obama? The Dumbacrats mouths wrote a check in promising national
healthcare that their ass can't cash. They said anything they could to
to get to the white house. If a Republican had've made the announcement
Obama did about sending 30,000 more troops to the desert they'd be
marching on DC as we speak. Obama promised 52 clean coal refineries but
not one red Pennie of his $800 Billion spending spree went to it and to
really pour salt to the wound he spent $44 billion to convert power
plants to gas to curb the need for earth killing, apocalypse ushering,
coal which is still working on it's holocost of railroad jobs. These
fucking idiots had better wake up and realize this isn't FDR's
demacratic party anymore. The UTU, BLE, and UMWA, backed this fool for
the same reason people shoot themselves in the face after killing their
wives and children. Jungle fever isn't just the downfall of insecure
teenage white girls anymore, it will wind up being the biggest killer
of railroad jobs in history. It will kill more of our jobs then AIDS
has queers and we'll race to the polls to re-elect him because like
the queers, we aparently like taking it in the ass. Coal boomed under
Bush and the entire rail labor movement damned him to hell, so it only
makes sense Obama should be honored with another multi-million dollar
compaign contribution. Hell, if the unions have there way they'll be
be putting Obama on Mt. Rushmore. Of course they'll hire 2 inner city
black kids for 4 weeks to carve it out of Onyx and glue it on and then
they'll boast that they've created jobs, made leaps forward in the
cival rights movement, and eliminated black poverty. I love it when
stupid ass people without enough sense to bath themselves get to elect
the president. God bless America!

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 January 2010

Unless you're paying $24 thousand a year in premiums for health
insurance you won't have to sweat the tax:

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34859430/ns/politics-health_care_reform/

Name: If they don't call us back!! 
E-mail: furlough since 2007
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 January 2010

It's funny how the railroad try to take over the trucking
industry.Seems like at the end of the day,truckers are more likely to
succeed.

Name: C&O JOE
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 January 2010

I would have my guys claim a couple hours code 97 each time they had to
use their cell phone for company buisness. They won't be easily
collected but it will get their attention. I would also take it to my
safety guy to get it on the minutes. We're almost always able to get
these types of things corrected in a month or 2. If all else fails
I've had luck getting this type of thing fixed through the Div.
Manager. I know it sounds crazy but you start talking delaying trains
and they will at least hear you out.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 January 2010

Hey Suzannah:

Sounds like a typical CSX deal...reminds me of Wile E. Coyote, super
genius or genius at work.

What does the LC have to say about it and how hard would it be to
install a printer at the UP terminal?

Name: Suzannah
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Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 January 2010

HI NOMO,

Problem that we have with waiting till we go on duty at terminal is its
not our terminal. Its a UP terminal. We have a crew room in our hotel
with printers. We dont leave the hotel until out paperwork comes over
then a wagon takes us to the UP terminal. I dont think they can send
csx paperwork to UP dedicated printers.  I will check on that. If they
can do it then I will just take wagon to their terminal and make calls
to csx from there.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 January 2010

Had there been air on the cars, slack wouldn't have been a problem.

I worked a job with a Conductor that wanted to kick the cars
in...talking about a disaster waiting to happen...glad I only worked
that job with him once!

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 January 2010

RCO job hits bumper post switching four cars.........RCO's ARE
UNSAFE!!!!!!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 January 2010

Based on Joe's and RRJ's comments, if the numbers hold true system
wide It would appear that 31% of investigations are justifiable, which
would include attendance handling. 

Based on the $60 million figure it would appear that CSX spends $41.4
million on unnecessary investigations. I have no sympathy for those
that are charged with attendance problems...there is no telling how
much that costs CSX in overtime.

Faking a brake test...he deserves what he got. Hand on the grab
iron...the TM needs to be cornholed with turpentine.

Since everything is being handled at Division or Corporate, CSX could
save millions more if they got rid of all the line and half the middle
management...evidently they are unnecessary. Let the micro managers run
it!

Name: georgia
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 January 2010

to the crew that hit the butting block take your time off enjoy it but
the next time do your spoting of cars the safe way take one at a time
in that way it is safer and you make more overtime. donot worry about
how long it took just tell your trainmaster that you are doing it the
safe way let the r.r. pay for their foolish rules. the r.r. has taken
all common sense out of doing your job.get out of their safety programs
until the r.r. has a change to help their employees instead of trying to
run them off.years ago the r.r.management would help you not punish you
for some little mistake.they may put out a bullinton anyway now go in
with one or two cars every time some accident happens they come out
with a new rule anyway to prevent another of the same accident too many
shity rules to follow.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 January 2010

C&O Joe

That's the problem. What we think and what CSX thinks is definitely
not on the same page. Some things should be left to local management to
handle like the bumping block. Like you stated it wouldn't of took much
to get it repaired with a private one on one meeting with the RCO crew
with a stern warning. That doesn't happen in todays CSX workplace.
Every incident is reported to the division HQ or Jacksonville then they
make the decision on what action needs to be taken. That's how CSX has
indocrinated the new middle management to act. It wasn't that long ago
a trainmaster or terminal manager had some authority. The last of the
good ole' boy trainmasters retired about 3 years ago. He covered up
run through switches, minor yard derailments ect...he had the respect
of the workers. He was replaced with Frulla's pivot man at the
division HQ circle jerks. This man couldn't run a Lionel Train Set
around an eight foot oval track without screwing it up. He doesn't
believe in working with anyone it's his way or the highway. He came to
a job with his yard crews having an average of 30 years experience. It
should of been a gravy train the yard could run itself. It's been
anything but a gravy train.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 January 2010

C&0
Same as nudging a red board by an inch, well not really, but you can
see the CSX mindset.Amazing. Nice job of showing real life.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 January 2010

No name Engineer 30+,

      As I stated in a round about way, my definition of serious and
CSX's most often differ considerably. The bumper block incident was an
RCO crew spotting a string of 4 cars at an industry. The cars were bled
off and there is only a foot or so room to spare. As they made their
first spot the slack rolled out and broke off a piece of the plate on
the top about the size of your fist. It didn't deminish the
effectivness of the bumper and if they were really worried about it
they could have fixed it with a welder in 5 minutes, which they did
not. Had they have run through the damn thing and got on the ground,
that would have been serious. It makes no sense that the charges for
nudging the bumper and tearing it down and derailing should be the
same. I had a guy get a time out for a busted switch in November which
was the first TO I'd done in well over a year. Boards have slowed down
a bit, unless you work out of Covington or Columbus. Seems like half the
boards on the field administration screen anymore are from on of those 2
places. Russell seems to come in spurts as does AACA.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 January 2010

Reminds me of this place except for the last frame:
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-01-10/

Regarding cell phones for company business: NO!!!
1) The company has made it clear that it doesn't want you using cell
phones or any  other personal electronic devices. Applying the
company's twisted logic of drinking, it's best to be SAFE and not use
your phone at the hotel. Using your phone for company business is a sure
way to get BUSTED. Wouldn't be the first time someone gets busted for
trying to help out.
2) They'll put off spending $$ on a phone line as long as you're
paying for it. And you ARE paying for it if you use your phone.
3) The hotel rooms have phones? Certainly company business is an
acceptable use of the room phone.
4) Last time I worked the road, cell phones were "officially
tolerated". Anytime I used it for company business I would file a
claim at pre-paid rates (about $1/minute, at the time) and it always
got paid. If they stopped paying, I'd stop calling. The alternative
would be TIME which costs more than $1/minute. If I'm using my
personal cell phone to help them out they can pay for it.

As it was said: If the company treated you decent, then by all
reasonable means do what's reasonable to help. In the meantime, do
NOTHING unless you're told to do it. And even then, do only as much
and as fast as SAFETY demands. They play the music, we just dance to
it. They need to change their tune before we do a different dance.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 January 2010

Hey Suzannah:

Nice to hear from you...I was beginning to get worried!

I believe I'd talk to the LC about it, the hotel should furnish the 
phone. I would not use my cell phone on company business. You have a
cell phone for your convenience, not theirs...it might be a different
matter if CSX was an employee friendly work place, it is not, so why
help them out?

If you have problems with work orders or train orders wait until
you're on duty at the terminal then call...which is what the rules say
you should do. If it takes 20 minutes or 2 hours to get it straight
that's CSX's problem, not yours. What is CSX going to do...charge you
with delaying a train?

Stay warm and have a safe CSX day!

Name: spongebob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 January 2010

Suzannah,

  Please don't use your cell phone for company business.  As you know
CSX can't make you use your personal cell phone for company business. 
 With all the Chickenshit failures that Rick (prick) Reed, Joe (Lardass)
Berry, Tom (Psycho) Cook, Van (wannabe) Dyke, Brett (Pretty boy) 
Workman write us up for,  FUCK THEM why on earth would you do anything
for these Bastards.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 January 2010

Hey Slim:

I think it all depends on the contract you work under. It's been a
long time now but on the L&N it seems like it was 10 days. Obviously
it's 14 on the C&O. The B&O will almost certainly be similar.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 January 2010

C&O Joe

You don't consider hitting a bumping block and damaging it serious? It
would appear to me that no one was protecting the point. Which I
consider serious especially if it's in a industry. That's a CSX and
FRA violation. In my area on the Huntington Division investigations
have gotten out of control the past 3-4 months there's been an
investigation just about everyday. We are in the process of raising
local dues to avert going broke. Most charges are people not thinking.
Like faking a handbrake test at 3am a TM was watching and monitoring
the radio they got 10 days. Some are on the obscure side an engineer
gets off the locomotive with the outbound engineer waiting to board the
inbound engineer was charged for not having control of the locomotive &
train. The solution for swapping crews is the inbound can get off the
locomotive but must have his hand holding a grab iron till the outbound
crew gets on board that was 20 days. Cold and raining a conductor is
walking towards the locomotive after placing cars his gloves are wet he
takes them off puts his hands in his pocket to get warm that was 10
days. According to CSX there are no minor violations. This is nothing
new railroads are trying to bust the unions it's been going on
forever. The only solution is the unions have to strike to put an end
to it.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 January 2010

I've never known of anyone having charges filed aginst them beyond 14
days for a rules type incident. Usually attendance audits tend to
happen at the end of a quarter. Not always but usually. If it's been a
couple months your probably in good shape. The attendance policy is like
reading the bible in Hebrew. You know about what it says but the details
are often obscure. The reason for this is that the review period may be
from a random 8 week period, say April 17 to June 17 instead of April
1st to June 1st. That makes it hard to keep track of yourself because
the review period may start on any given day. Sometimes it helps you
and sometimes it's quite the opposite and your caught in a bad set of
circumstances or in other words, sometimes you eat the bear, and
sometimes the bear eats you. But if it's been a little while since you
were laying off a lot I wouldn't be to worried about it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 January 2010

Suzannah, why would you use your own phone? If the company doesn't
care, why should you.

Name: slim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 January 2010

How long does the company have to file charges against you for a
violation let use an example here ;] attendance polcy if i layed off
for a couple weeks then was furloughed can i still be invesgated after
being called back or do they only have a certain amount of time to
charge me ive allways wondered about this

Name: Suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 January 2010

Road Crews


We moved to a new motel in August after complaints were made about the
conditions. Company was well aware the move was happening.
Problem...... The company has refused to put a phone line in our crew
room (at the away from home terminal) so that we can call Jacksonville
for workorders, dispatchers or our home terminal if we have problems. I
confronted the TM over the west end several times and he finally told me
they werent putting a line in. We are expected to use our cell phones to
make any contact with the company. There is a phone in the crew room but
the only numbers that we can dial out are 800 numbers.I was on my cell
for 20 minutes last week trying to get ahold of our workorder dept. I
ended up putting it on my charger to continue communication. Is anyone
else having this issue with the company?

Name: CO JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 January 2010

Nomo,

      Several of them were attendance related. There were 3 that I
recall that were actually for (what I consider) legitimate, serious
rule violations, 2 of them stemed from an RCO crew that hit a bumper
and bent it up which I didn't agree with because that's what a bumper
is for. They nudged the bumper, it bent a little bit which didn't
deminish it's future effectivness, it prevented a derailment which is
what it's designed to do, so what's the problem? The most rediculous
one I had was a guy charged with a MAJOR offense and subject to
termination because he didn't finish his pod test in time. I also had
a guy that was terminated and ended up being off 7 months because he
layed off 2 days in March for doctors appointments and had written
excuses for both. He had a lenghty attendance rap but that's beside
the point, he wasn't on trial for previous offenses. Most guys got 5
days or less, a couple got 10 days, one was fired (but got back) and in
only 5 or 6 cases did I feel a board was really legitimate. It does seem
to have slacked off since October though. I had 2 or 3 boards a month up
until then and none after that. Hope that sets a new precident.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 January 2010

What is this I hear about New Castle yard taking over all of
Cleveland... IE Clark Ave, Marcy Yrd, Collinwood Yrd?  

Already setting up radio/phone lines in New Castle for Cleveland.
And a suppose letter has been posted or seen.

If somebody knows, can you please elaborate?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 January 2010

Hey Joe;

That's slightly more than 27%...If you can remember them, in your
opinion, how many were baseless and should never have had charges filed
and how many of the balance resulted in disciplinary action?

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 January 2010

I have no trouble at all believing $60 million on investigations. I
handled 19 last year for my local of 70. That's nearly a third of my
guys, assuming that's average and the fact they have to pay the
defendant, witnesses, hearing officers and everyone else your easily
near $2,000 per board. I guess harassment and intimidation dosn't come
cheap.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 January 2010

Did I read the Jan.7 post correctly about CSX spending nearly $60
million on investigations? Where did that figure come from?

If that figure is even close to being right, it speaks volumes for CSX
management at all levels. What a huge waste of money!

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 January 2010

Hey Joe, I'm a first generation guy myself and I knew absolutely no one
from the railroad when I started who gave me any insight.  I think its
more about the kind of mentality you have and whether or not you can
endure some crappy situations.  Believe it or not a big majority of the
guys Ive seen who werent worth a shit got shit canned.  Some of them are
still out here but then again, what motivation do we have to be good
workers outside of not being fired.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 January 2010

Ending the practice of giving members of railroad families first referal
on jobs hurt us and the railroad. Old heads used to care more about the
long term because the knew there was a good chance their son or
grandson would be Braking or Firing someday. The railroad lost and
endless pool of people who grew up around it and knew full well what
working on the rails intailed. They knew what they were getting into
and what to expect. Much better than these guys now that don't even
finish their qualifying trips. Gant it, this is not the same economy
and job market it was in 1975, but the principles are the same.
Railroaders kids almost always make better railroaders than 1st
generation guys do. I'm first generation myself but my dad was friends
with at least 10 Conductors and it was a big help when I was getting
started.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 January 2010

Sharp shooting.  
Why in the world would any Union Member call anyone on the RR except
the crew caller? This is all screwed up, and it looks like you all are
doing it to each other. I called friends that I worked with but never
called the Railroad. Just the crew caller. I knew people were visiting
the big dog's but it was none of my business, I knew who they were,
and said nothing. We had a conductor who's wife cleared the time
slips. He talked a lot and got all kind's of shit payed. Never said a
word got it when I worked with him. Did not when I worked with others.
Just the way it was, and it worked well. I never missed a cent, and
retained the only thing that I had working for me Confidentiality.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 January 2010

"Shooting the board" has been going on forever. Even with the ban on
cell phones we have people using them to call yardmasters while enroute
to expedite moves in their favor. It's not going to stop. It was going
on before cell phones excisted. I witnessed crews who were still
working their inbound train that had put off and put back on another
train to turn by the trainmaster or yardmaster this was done to show
they had enough time left to turn. All this was done while crews were
in the lodging some rested some close to rest. I had an incident last
year where I was waiting for a yard crew who was using my road power.
After a 3 hour wait another road crew pulled up in front of the office
the conductor got off ran inside then ran back out he never spoke a
word. I checked this crew was running around me by turning. After a 4
hour wait TM Warren Rennick started hollering for us to get a move on.
We ended up in a heated discussion about why I didn't get the power
off the train that turned it should of been "first in, first out".
Seeing the unions gave away run around claims CSX doesn't give a crap.
I informed TM Kangaroo Jack that they always want a good move but there
wasn't any good moves left. I left the road and took a yard job.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 January 2010

So does anyone know when these furloughs are going to end...?... its
been a year now...common lets get back to work!

Name: bob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2010

I love this global warming thing, cold weather sucks.

Name: Kwatee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2010

Whoever said that "Money is the root of all evil" was wrong.The saying
should have been something like: "If I can stab my brother  in the back
and get a better call that can allow me to make another super check then
why not do it because "GREED" is good."
This behavior has been running rampant through certain areas of
CSX.Some employees take what they are called on and some apparently use
their cell phones to get calls changed,turn backs(which pay a double
day) and much more that I don't care to share at this time.
The end must be near because man has turned on himself and his
brother.I take Honor and Truth to be a way of life,some people didn't
get the memo.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 January 2010

Reminder - Trainmasters Are Not Free  
  
Michael O'Malley, assistant chief-Engineering Facilities, has issued
the following reminders for employees regarding Trainmasters.

CSXT spends nearly $60 million annually for employee investigations,
Sleeping Trainmasters, Yardmaster mistakes, and sewage utility
services. All CSX employees consume relax time from management in our
daily activities, but do we consider how we can reduce that
consumption? Do we consider the cost? You may ask yourself, "But, what
can I do?" 

You can do simple things like just ratting someone out so he/she does
not have to move when it is not needed -- things like shutting down
your engine, get moving when the lamp turns green, dont slow down to
early on yellow, run at 15mph exactly on restrictive signals, up your
union dues, shop equipment (especially ones that smell like doo doo),
do not ask questions, read your rule book like its your Bible, and send
a Singing Hallmark card to your terminal manager every holiday to just
say thanks. If a problem is out of your control such as in an CSX IS
GOING TO BEND YOU OVER ANYWAY, report it to your UTU or BLE
Chairperson. Don't ignore the issues and don't give up; Fourlough
savings contributes directly to CSX's bottom line. The actions you
take at Work to avoid Trainmasters   also apply right there at home.
Please do your part to tell us when you have been injured at a family
cook-out so we can investigate and fourlough just one more conductor.
Remember have a SAFE CSX YEAR!

Name: Village Idiot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 January 2010

"""RULE G"""""

OVER......

Name: averagejoe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 January 2010

you know what i agree most people on the rr are related and loved ones
do get hired over more qualified people i had 2 intervues 1 the shop
forman and his bitch was there to hand pick the people for the supposed
recruiter a nigger who looked down on me while hiring his masstas white
kin folk 
the second time no formen or anything only recruiters got the job that
was over a year ago and still no word it was really embarissing for the
first 6 months or so explaining to people why i wasnt at the rr yet
so yes they do hire family for jobs that are for sure but they dont
give a hoot about the imaginary jobs or the ones they know pple will be
laid off from shortly 
so unless you were military or have high pull
if you get a job there my observation is your bieng played as a fool
or fucked from the get go

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 January 2010

Even though I didn't have any relatives on the C&O railroad when I
hired out I didn't find anything wrong with hiring those who did. I
know people who are 3rd-4th generation railroad. Starting with my
generation I believe fathers wanted better for their children hopefully
going on to a higher education. It wasn't uncommon years ago for
children to get employed where their fathers worked it didn't matter
what the business. One of my first job out of the military my uncles
and cousins got me a job in a glass factory. One of my grandfathers
worked there and was killed in a plant accident in 1931. It was all
about family. Later on I discovered my other grandfather worked for the
railroad as did my father for a short time between the end of WWII and
1947 then my father reenlisted in the military making that his carreer.
What is wrong with having pull to get a job? It's been going on since
the beginings of the human race.

Name: VAMBO RAMBO
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 January 2010

Well how many of you got a Christmas card from good ole Tony Ingram?
Mine was filed right in the trash did not even bother to open it. Good
riddins you rotten bastard. May 2010 be a terrible year for you

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2010

Policy of ???????

Mike Ward and Tony Ingram seem to not care about doing the help or
hiring their relatives. This policy is violated system wide.  Kinda
like a system wide agreement. The Favor Business.


To be rather direct if you knew, there is so many people related to
each other on the railroad it would look almost like inbred
hillbillies. 

I am sure some people on here will enlighten you on how it works.  
This policy only works on employment applications to find a reason not
to hire you if that is the situation at the moment.  Just never list
your relatives.  Case Solved. 

Blood is thicker than beer or water on the CSX. Get use to it. That is
one reason this outfit will never get straighten out. It was worst
before CSX.

Now there are many not related to anyone but if you wanna move up well
you better marry into the Clan in power.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 January 2010

Policy???????  Does the company approve of bosses sleeping with their
co-workers who work under them? I would think that would be a
distraction and not a good idea.  Shouldn't one employee be
transferred elsewhere?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 January 2010

Top local stories of 2009
Originally published January 03, 2010

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?storyID=99662

From Staff Reports 
 
Francie Billotti-Wood and her three children were slain by her husband,
Christopher Wood, who then killed himself in their Middletown home. 
  
   
Readers of The Frederick News-Post ranked the deaths of a Middletown
family in April as the top story of 2009 in Frederick County.
The editors of The News-Post discussed the stories of 2009, compiled a
list of the Top 10 and turned it over to readers to rank.

Between Dec. 23 and Dec. 31, 271 readers voted at
fredericknewspost.com. Here are Frederick County's Top 10 stories of
2009:


No. 1 -- Middletown tragedy: Wood family found dead (April 19)

A 34-year-old CSX Railroad employee killed his wife and three young
pajama-clad children before turning a shotgun on himself.

Francie Billotti-Wood and her three children were slain by her husband,
Christopher Wood, who then killed himself in their Middletown home.


No. 2 -- Top Chef: Las Vegas -- It's a wrap (Dec. 9)

A Voltaggio snagged the title of Top Chef during the finale of "Top
Chef: Las Vegas," but it was Michael, not Bryan, whom judges deemed
Top Chef of Season 6.


No. 3 -- Murder-suicide in Mount Airy (Sept. 25)

Police said Charles L. Dalton shot his wife, Jennifer, and two
children, Charles L. Jr. and Emmaline, and the family dog in a
murder-suicide.


No. 4 -- LHS, CHS become first county teams to win state football
titles in same season (Dec. 5)

Catoctin won the Class 1A state football title and Linganore captured
the Class 3A title, marking the first time in county history two
football teams have won state crowns in the same season.


No. 5-- City election: New mayor, board elected (Nov. 4)

A clean sweep of City Hall put five new aldermen to work for the next
four years. With a mayor elected to his first public office, Frederick
's government stands untested in the face of what could be the city's
most financially challenging year in decades.


No. 6 -- WHS softball coach fired, then reinstated (Sept. 4)

Brad Young reached his goal on Sept. 3 -- the one he had from the
beginning of an ordeal that began in July when officials told him he
was relieved of his Walkersville High School coaching duties. He has
his job back.


No. 7 -- Economy tanks, budgets slashed, some area businesses go bust
(ongoing)

Many Frederick County residents, business and municipal governments
felt the effect of the recession during 2009. For example, local
governments slashed budgets. Mealey's Restaurant in New Market ,
Ingalls Lumber and Supply Co. in Middletown and others closed down.


No. 8 -- County and residents battle over building an incinerator (Nov.
20)

Controversy continues to escalate around whether a proposed trash
incinerator is consistent with county goals for the environment and
historic preservation.


No. 9 -- City and county spar over recent city annexations (Sept. 4)

Frederick aldermen approved three city annexations that will add more
than 500 acres of farmland to the city, and eventually yield hundreds
of housing units and millions of square feet of office and commercial
space in coming years.


No. 10-- NAACP decries Halloween display as insensitive (Oct. 31)

Three dummies dangled from a willow tree in Baker Park, part of the
City of Frederick Parks and Recreation Department's Halloween program.
Guy Djoken, president of the local NAACP, said from a distance the
dummies look like dead bodies.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 January 2010

On the C&O you get your PL days based on years of service only.
Engineers must make vacation to get them but conductors get them
regardless. If I'm not mistaken PL came about via crew consist so it
could be diffrent if your a Seaboard or L&N man. I believe they are
awarded through payroll so contact them and they can get it fixed.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 02 January 2010

To NOMO & CSX-SUCKS.com Fans & Viewers


May I recommend doing a Google search  TYPE IN:

Railroad Official's Name or other with CSX-Sucks.com in your searches

Boy did it bring up some interesting stuff.  NOMO you might doubt
check
your research I did on in just a few seconds then read thur many in a
few minutes.   

Google saves this stuff for ever.

Happy New Year 2010

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 January 2010

Hey APE 30+:

It would be impossible to list all their dirty deeds in one post, in
fact due to the limited size of the post that can be made at one time,
it would take at least 10 to list all their accomplishments.

I reviewed all posts in all six topics since 01/01/09. Each topic took
between 2.5 and 3 hours. Unfortunately, many posters feel it necessary
to post in each topic. Additionally, there are posters
that just like to argue and those that are just obnoxious. The regular
readers know who they are. I would guess at least 33% of the posts fall
into those categories.

Another 20% of the posts are from furloughed employees that want to
blame old heads for their status.

Feel free to scroll through the last years posts...the regulars know
what the winners deeds are or just tune in more often for the latest in
lechery, treachery and debauchery on the CSX! 

Oh by the way, I just don't like greedy, arrogent, self centered
liars that use other peoples money and hard work to pad their own
pockets...so if that's being anti-corporate, I'm guilty>

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 02 January 2010

Good Point APE

Make a new folder or page just for their performances that easily
found.

It is difficult to find anything on this site. 

Getting Ripped by CSX

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 January 2010

No Mo

You are very eloquent with the presentation of your awards.

However, besides general anti-corporate platitudes, you haven't really
stated what makes each of the recipients deserving of said honors...

I believe that since many of us don't check this site on a regular
basis, each recipient should be given a full accounting of their
accomplishments.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 January 2010

Ok I have a question for you guys. I have been laid off in previous
years and still received personal days at the beginning of the new
year. I didnt get any this year. I thaught we was entitled to those?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 January 2010

Brothers and Sisters,

Today being the last day of 2009; what more appropriate day to announce
the winner of the 4th annual NoMo “Brown Banana” award. This prestigious
award will be given annually to the Biggest Piece of Shit on the CSX.

In 2007 I expanded my awards to recognize all those whose efforts to
make CSX a miserable place to work....aren’t they doing a fine job?
These include the Saucerhead Award for the first runner up, The Eunuch
Award for the manager that knows better but is too scared to speak up
and the Clarabelle Award for the biggest clown.

The railroad is largely dependent on teamwork. Accordingly I initiated
a draft several years ago, which would allow the weakest teams to
improve their talent. These teams will be selected based on the number
of posts complaining about them. Considering the same teams have been
named the last 2 years, the gene pool is pretty shallow.

In order to qualify for the “Brown Banana”, you must be in management,
be nominated and awarded the coveted NoMo P.O.S. (Piece of Shit) Award.
This award is presented to individuals and departments which, through
their selfless acts of stupidity and incompetence, have created a
hostile and unpleasant working atmosphere.

It should be noted that the “Brown Banana” is like an Oscar or Heisman
Trophy…to win this you have to be at the top of your game. However,
unlike the Oscar or Heisman the winner must be hated by their employees
and despised by his peers.

I, along with my Board of Directors, Jack Daniels, J.W. Dant, Evan
Williams, Jim Beam, George Dickel, Johnny Walker and because I believe
in diversity, Remy Martin have recently concluded the annual Banana
Conclave in a smoke filled room reviewing the last year’s posts and
running the numbers. It was indeed a contentious conclave, with no
clear cut leader going in. After much soul searching, cajoling and
discussion, a worthy candidate has been chosen. The smokestack is lit…

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNS5GPLnEZY&feature=related

Hope you’re down wind!

Before I get started, some interesting facts.  Tom Wolfe received 8
posts. Matt Sanders, Rick Reed and Tom Cook each got 6, Joe Berry got
4, Bill Seltzer and Steve Ammons got 3. There were 46 others mentioned
at least once.

Oh, so many deserving candidates and only one “Banana”, who will bring
home the “Brown” So without ado…the envelopes please.

In the team category:
The 3rd draft pick………………..REDI Center/Labor Relations 
The 2nd draft pick………………..Board of Directors
The 1st draft pick………………...Albany Division.

In the individual categories:

The Clarabelle Award………….Clarence Gooden (what an embarrassment)

The Eunuch Award……………..Bob Frulla (according to your men, you need to
                                   stay in your barnyard and harass 
                                   your animals)

The Saucerhead Award…………Michael Cameron (Hope you can live with
                                         yourself)
  
May I have a drum roll…TaDa…and the winner is…Cindy Sanborn …come on
down you are the winner of the 4th annual NoMo “Brown Banana”. Let us
hope with your new position, you’ll be too busy doing important things
you won’t have time to screw anything else up!

Along with this prestigious award, you will be enshrined in the NoMo
Hall of Shame; in the old porcelain factory on the corner of Crapp and
Mudd Streets in Schitzville. Your award will be delivered to the Hall
of Shame via UPS along with a life-sized toilet paper stuffed effigy of
you suitable for bayoneting, garroting, target practice or
incineration.

The rest of you wannabes…just keep up the good work and maybe next year
you can join Cindy, Tom, Dave and Tony at the Hall with your very own
“Brown Banana”. 

See what Brown can do for you!

Finally, today being Tony Ingram’s last day it’s only fair we pay
tribute to the first   “Brown Banana” recipient.

             http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlzPFm44Wac

             http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYiPQJD8DzE

Happy New Year and give ‘em hell…

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 December 2009

--Looks as though the UTU has more blood on its hands--   Well at least
they're still collecting union dues to pay their outrageous salaries.



Minn. UTU member dies in switching accident 
MINNEAPOLIS – BNSF conductor Samuel W. Lundy, age 44 and a 17-year
member of UTU Local 1000, was killed in a switching accident here
Tuesday morning, Dec. 29, when a rail car jumped its tracks and pinned
him against a building, reports the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

 The newspaper reports that the accident occurred “about 11:30 a.m. as
workers performed a routine switching operation, dropping off loaded
cars at a customer facility.”

 The National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Railroad
Administration have launched an investigation, and a member of the UTU
Transportation Safety Team is assisting the NTSB. 

According to Minneapolis police spokesman Sgt. Jesse Garcia, Lundy was
standing on the ground behind a six-car train, using a remote device to
move it backward, when the last rail car left the tracks and pinned him
against the building. Lundy was pronounced dead at the scene.

Lundy, of St. Paul, is survived by a wife, Jackie, and three children.

Lundy was the eighth UTU member killed this year in an on-duty rail
accident, and the fourth UTU member employed by BNSF to be killed this
year in a rail accident.

(The preceding article is based on information published by the
Minneapolis Star Tribune, with additional information added by UTU
editors.)
 
December 30, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 December 2009

We read your post already in one section. It isn't necessary to post it
in all sections.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 December 2009

If any of you believe your jobs are coming back, or new jobs will be
created, your head is in the land of OZ. 

I personally don't and won't do anything for CSX unless I am
expicitly told to do so. An example, I am told to walk to my engine and
inspect it. Fine, No one can tell me how fast to walk. No one can tell
me how to inspect my engine or the time limit to do it in. Paperwork?
Broken pens, or the inspection forms not on the engine? I could care
less. I call the yardie.......let him tell me where and how to get a
pen or inspection forms. More time to relax. If I am relaxing, I can't
get hurt. Oh, unless one of the many idiots that work here flat switch a
car down into my track. Hard to believe but it does happen in this CSX
yard.

No, just don't care anymore. Don't care if I run out of time on
single main track. Don't really care if I am late for work. Don't
care if CSX doesn't pay me on time. My union guys will fix that for
me. May take 2 to 3 years (without interest) but I'll get my money. 

Don't care that the radio has static when the dispatcher tries to call
me. I don't move the train one inch until I fully understand what he or
she wants. I am not allowed to use (and will not) my cell phone to move
a train. I just wait X amount of time till the static on the radio
stops.

When I am stopped and a signal pops up.......I wait 2 or 3 minutes
hopefully) to make sure it doesn't drop in front of me. I see a
distant signal, I slow down, don't want that to drop on me either.
It's just safer this way.

Track speed 50mph.....45 is safer. Top restricted speed I operate at is
2 mph, which is very safe. CSX management should be proud of me, that I
am sure of, because I haven't run thru any switches.

All in all I like working here. Sure the hours are horrible,people show
up for work late, in yesterdays clothes, smell like cigarettes teeth not
brushed, but they are elite professionals.

These elite professionals will show off to you and new hires by
dispalying thier ignorance and stupidity of rules, regulations, and RR
operations. But then my union reps or management will talk to the new
hires and correct the problem,,,,,right? Well maybe the union or
management talks to the elite professional and straightens him or her
out.
Yeah, thats what happens where I work. Never seen it personally, but
"they" tell me it has happened. I feel safer when "they" tell me
things like that.

I am kinder to a stray dog, than to any union rep or CSX manager. I
hold both in complete disgust and distrust. Both are liars, and
thieves. What does the BLE do with my dues? Well in thier newsletters,
complete with pictures, they are playing golf, in conference in Las
Vegas, or discussing important union contracts at a nice resort
location......so they can fully concentrate on the matters at hand.

In closing, I,like many of you are nothing more than whores. CSX and
the unions are the pimps.

We get told how long to work. Where to work. How much we will get paid.
How much longer am I going to be a whore? I don't know. I do know it is
getting harder and harder to look at my self in the mirror. 

Are you brave enough to look in the mirror?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2009

You have a point Goob. Who would of ever thought Walmart, Kroger, Costco
ect...would have incorporated pharmacies into their stores. The days of
a one on one relationship with a pharmasist is a thing of the past.
I've used the local CVS for 20+ years I haven't a clue of the
pharmasist name. At CVS you can buy basic groceries, photo shop,
cosmetics, beer & wine, holiday doodads, house cleaning supplies
ect...pharmacy is in the back of the store. It's a great concept a
person has to pass everything else to get to it. I even find myself
going in to pick up a script and ending up with an arm load of
merchandise.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 December 2009

Bean Counters, I can not resist this one.

I sold Cigarettes to small downtown drug stores for years. I got to
know them and they knew me, we worked together. Normally there was a
older pharmacist (Owner) and a young pharmacist (1 day to be the new
owner). Then the big chain stores started to appear. They took the same
concept-----Pharmacist is now the store manager--- oh god it went to
crap. If you are wondering why? It is because the personal relationship
no longer exists. A pharmacist is trained to oppose Tobacco, and they
were a challenge. They thought THE only profitable department in the
early chain drug stores was the really high counter in the back that
filled your Script. The rest of the store was nothing.  Today check em
out they are keeping the Pharmacist in a cubby hole and letting the
merchandising folks run the store.

Now that is how to handle a bean counter, put them in a cubby hole???
HA

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 December 2009

Who says war isn't good business!


  http://www.inteldaily.com/news/173/ARTICLE/13219/2009-12-25.html

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 December 2009

Never let a bean counter ascend to the throne...it will ruin a otherwise
great operation. Business is about people building relationships;
whether they're employees, vendors and customers. It's not about
numbers.

When you have the right people and culture, the numbers will follow.
When you don't the business will stagnate.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 December 2009

Bean counters. We've had a enough of them the past 15 years. All the
programs like HPO ect...millions of dollars ended up wasted. In a 4
year span we had 3 presidents of CSX while Snow was CEO. Each came from
the airline industry all of them left with millions of dollars in a
golden parachute. If Brown and Sanborn are just more of the same then
nothing will change. All we can hope for is the present policies of
harrassment under Ingram will cease. We don't need anymore more rules
or more intimidation. We need what we had in the past a working
relationship between labor and management. That one issue will benefit
everyone. I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 December 2009

Hey Village Idiot:

Don't play us...you're no idiot, you sound reasonable.

Nice post!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 December 2009

Merry Christmas to all my union brothers & sisters who just wanna go to
work, do there job, get paid in a correct manner, and last but not
least...not get hurt.


December 24,   2009.......and CSX STILL SUCKS!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 December 2009

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!! THIS FOR THE T&E GUYS WHO HAVE TO WORK TONIGHT.
 THERE ARE A BUNCH OF YOUNG PEOPLE THAT THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE EVERY
HOLIDAY OFF. I HAVE WORKED 15 CHRISTMAS EVES, 3RD SHIFT, ONE OF THE
BEST BECAUSE YOU GET HOME IN TIME TO SEE YOUR KIDS, WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG
OPEN THIER GIFTS. NOW IT'S GAND KIDS. TAKE A LITTLE NAP, EAT THEN GET
READY FOR WORK. NOTHING BETTER THEN GARBAGE SANDWITCHES.

SO TO THE ROOKIES, SUCK IT UP, YOU SIT IN A OFFICE ENVIORNMENT GETTING
PAID GOOD MONEY. ATLEAST YOU HAVEN'T BEEN FUGHLOUGH LIKE OTHER
CRAFTS.

ONCE AGAIN MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

Name: Village Idiot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 December 2009

Moving into 2010 and we still have the same old story.  The unions are
great, the management bl0ws & everyone in T&E are victims.  

Take it from a guy who was all of the above...Things on both sides of
the fence are in need of attention. 

If you think Unions are not about the monthly dues and your well being
is more important than them you are kidding yourself. 

If you think line staff management is the driver for more Testing and
Failures you are not paying attention and should get to know your
management better---pressure comes from the Terminal Supts & Division
managers...the majority of TM's except maybe the MGMNT TRAINIEES
appreciate what all T&E do and show it most of the time when they are
able to do so. 

We have the hardest job in America I have to believe, but it still is
an American Job, we still get the calls to go and we have never had a
check bounce from the company yet....this time of the year be
appreciative and attempt to focus and assert your passion to make
changes and make things happen instead of being a repeating victim. 


You have three types of people on the railroad....guys that are happy
to come to work and do their best...and those looking to move their way
up the corporate ladder..then you have the apathetic that allow excuses
to get in the way of progress and bring everyone else who is to weak to
think for themselves down to their level.  


BROWN and SANBORN are the generation of bean counters.......spend a
buck to save a dime..........their time will come like most management
that have coupled on to their philosophy and forgotten about people and
building relationships that will last and have the ability to make
things happen when needed.

I was always fair, honest and when pushed have to do things I do not
agree with and made my voice heard....time for others to step up and
use that umbrella of union membership to your advantage. 

Merry Christmas and here is hoping for a New Year of change for the
positive.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 December 2009

The only Christmas Day the C&O ever called me to work was for a firemen
on Amtrak. This was back in the early '80s it was on another
subdivision which back then we had prior rights. I should of took the
call it would of established prior rights seniority which would of been
nice seeing 20 years later I ended up working that line. I've worked
every holiday on the railroad except Christmas. I'm not sure if the
C&O in the '70s worked on Christmas. I was furloughed every Dec 23rd
during the winter months. Even the C&O (Chessie System) was cheap they
could of let us work till the first of the year to get the holiday pay.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 December 2009

Everyone settle down. The UTU and BLET are looking out for our best
interest(s), they don't care about dues, they care about us!

Without the support of these Unions we would be making $8.00 an hour.
Think about it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 December 2009

Hey Corporate Office 10-20:

The question is not whether I have a clue on how the railroad or any
other business should be run. The question is does CSX?

To date, CSX still has 100s of men, most with less than two years of
service; and many that CSX has trained, at shareholders expense and
never allowed to mark-up, still furloughed.

A lot of these men would welcome a chance to transfer at their own
expense if it meant stabilizing their employment. It costs CSX money to
hire and train men at the REDI Center, I mean the Ingram Center, so your
statement "Cheaper workers who will do as told to replace the fired and
retired" just doesn't track. Unless CSX is just trying to create tax
credits or someone is getting a cut of the action.

Go back to counting beans and just do as your told, after all you work
for CSX which doesn't require original though, just blind obedience!

Have an ethical CSX day...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 December 2009

Duh   Cheaper workers who will do as told to replace the fired and
retired.  Do you have a Clue NOMO about railroading?



Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 December 2009

Business must be picking up on the CSX or why would there be a hiring
call for conductors in all these locations when they have so many
still
furloughed?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 December 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 December 2009

I've never seen the railroad work on Christmas day. There may be some
who don't get back till late Christmas Eve maybe even Christmas
morning. In the past they even started back up at 0001 on Dec 26st.
For
the most part CSX has tried to get everyone home by Christmas Eve. CSX
is infamous for not posting holiday schedules till a day or two
before.
Best people to ask PTI drivers and Yardmasters. Trainmasters are
clueless like everyone else.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

I worked them all 4th of july --Christmas of 1966 sitting in the yard
from 4am to 10am before we ever moved, Then 180 miles down the road.
Feast or famine I worked the Holiday's because there was no Free money
on the RR. I could double or triple on holidays. Then rest for a few .

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 December 2009

Business must be picking up on the CSX or why would there be a hiring
call for conductors in all these locations when they have so many still
furloughed?

      https://csx.taleo.net/careersection/2/moresearch.ftl?lang=en

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 December 2009

I've never seen the railroad work on Christmas day. There may be some
who don't get back till late Christmas Eve maybe even Christmas
morning. In the past they even started back up at 0001 on Dec 26st. For
the most part CSX has tried to get everyone home by Christmas Eve. CSX
is infamous for not posting holiday schedules till a day or two before.
Best people to ask PTI drivers and Yardmasters. Trainmasters are
clueless like everyone else.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 December 2009

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!! THIS POST IS FOR THE NASHVILLE DIVISION.
ACCORDING TO MY SON-INLAW YOU WILL BE WORKING. HE SAYS THANK YOU

 PETE BURRUS

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 December 2009

Just insert "the carriers and union" after representatives from; and
it all becomes crystal clear!

       http://nynerd.com/how-business-works/

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 December 2009

BLE= Brotherhood of Large Ego's

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 December 2009

Hey Jim:

To answer your questions:

No.

Name just one? Because we can.

You don't know enough about it to offer an opinion.

Because we can.

Name one and why should we trust you?

Get a job with CSX and get back with us in a year!

Name: Jim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 December 2009

OK, I know CSX has a lot of issues:
1. They have caused more civilian deaths than any other railroad,
including all other class I railroads.
2. They have more accidents than SOME other railroads, although they
aren't THAT bad (I admit, they have a turntable in Pennsylvania that I
know of and they have at least one remote operated locomotive crash into
the turntable pit every year because the stupid remote operator doesn't
see that the turntable isn't in its correct position, which is pretty
crappy).
3. They do treat their employees overall pretty crappy, with lousy pay,
crappy hours, and dumb ass executives who try and take all of the money
for themselves.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anyway, they overall aren't THAT bad. I think you are all taking it
way too far out of proportion. Don't you guys have anything better to
do than create an entire website devoted to proving CSX sucks? There
are way crappier, more screwed up and corrupt companies than CSX. Why
pick on them so badly? I'm not saying I like them a lot or think
they're a great railroad. I don't. But I don't think they are a BAD
railroad. I think they are decent though. Why do you worry about them
so much? There are much worse things out in the world than CSX, trust
me.

Name: furloughed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 December 2009

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A
Posted: 18 December 2009

Speaking of Staffing and Consolidation" CSX has had its share of 
Tony Ingram chasing staff for sexual favors.   Maybe that was his 
demise for retiring.   He has some serious mental issues with people
especially women whom have to work around him.    I just wonder how
much
CSX is paying out on these lawsuits and keeping it under the rug here
in Jacksonville.  This should leak out with more detail.

Maybe he had a hang up about being around some of these gay guys and
had to prove something?

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 December 2009

Rails withdraw staffing & consolidation proposal 
A month after the UTU filed a lawsuit in federal court to block a
railroad demand to bargain over "staffing and consolidation," the
carriers have withdrawn that demand from their Railway Labor Act
Section 6 notices.

In a letter to UTU International President Mike Futhey, the National
Carriers' Conference Committee (NCCC), which represents most major
railroads in national contract negotiations, said it "will withdraw,
without prejudice, the proposal set forth in the paragraph entitled
'Staffing and Consolidation'"in exchange for the UTU dismissing,
"without prejudice, its lawsuit.

"These undertakings," said the NCCC, "are made in connection with
each party's desire to facilitate pursuit of a successful resolution
of the 2010 bargaining round without further litigation and are without
prejudice to their respective positions."

The UTU interpreted the demand regarding "Staffing and Consolidation"
as a renewed attempt by the carriers to seek one-person crew operations.
A federal court had ruled in March 2006 -- during the previous round of
national negotiations -- that the UTU had no obligation to bargain
nationally over a carrier demand to eliminate conductor and brakemen
positions on all through-freight trains. 

The UTU position-- then, and now -- is that existing agreements
relating to minimum train crew size are negotiated on a
railroad-by-railroad basis through UTU general committees of
adjustment, and any attempt by the carriers to change those agreements
must be handled at the general committee level and not in so-called
national handling where the major railroads coordinate their bargaining
through the NCCC. 

The agreement by the NCCC to withdraw its "Staffing and
Consolidation" demand -- in exchange for the UTU withdrawing its court
action -- followed a meeting between Futhey and the NCCC's chief
negotiator, Ken Gradia, on Dec. 8.

Said the NCCC in its letter to Futhey withdrawing the demand, "During
our Dec. 8, 2009, initial conference on our respective Section 6
proposals for the 2010 bargaining round, we had a candid discussion
about the parties' respective concerns and goals. 

"In the course of that exchange, we affirmed our shared conviction
that voluntary agreements are always in the parties' best interests
and our joint desire to facilitate and encourage the exploration of
opportunities for mutually beneficial solutions to each side's needs
without restraint. In particular, we discussed the benefits to both
parties of eliminating potential impediments to successful negotiations
where feasible," said the NCCC.

To keep current on this round of national handling, click on the
"National Rail Contract" link at www.utu.org.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2009

Seems like the Florida Legislature and FLDOT as well as the tax payers
have the problem. CSX has a net $282 million and use of the line for $3
million a year.

All those millions in political contribution to the Florida law makers
paid off big time...CSX sold off 61 miles of their system and saves the
maintenance costs and jobs associated with it. That $282
million will go straight to the bottom lime and then executive bonuses.
If you can't grow your business one way, grow it by selling off little
pieces, improve you ratios etc,etc,etc and watch Wall St.
do the rest.

Ward's right...all that money will make it back to the state just not
the way he said it would. You can bet the lion's share (80%) will be
additional money from the Feds and the State on the S-Line.

Watch the salaries and bonuses nest year, greed rules corporate
America. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the FLDOT boys
show up on the CSX payroll and some ex-legislators get fat consulting
contracts for their assistance!!!

Name: New Reporter
E-mail: CSX YOU Have a Problem
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2009

THE LEDGER (Lakeland, Fla.)

EDITORIAL

CSX/SunRail Deal: The Breakfast of Concealers

Published: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 at 1:03 a.m.

If state Sen. Paula Dockery wins the Republican gubernatorial
nomination, and Florida Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink wins the
Democratic counterpart, two things are certain:

Florida’s first female governor will emerge from the November general
election.

Heads likely will roll at the Florida Department of Transportation.

And well they should. Last week, during a special-call legislative
session, a last-minute deal by the DOT resulted in the railroad union
dropping opposition to a sweetheart deal between the state and CSX
Corp.

Well before the start of the session - on Nov. 25 - Dockery requested
e-mails by DOT officials related to the CSX proposal. She was given 121
e-mails, and none from DOT Secretary Stephanie Kopelousos, the linchpin
of the CSX/commuter-rail negotiations.

On Dec. 4, Dockery complained to Governor’s Office of Open Government.
She had wanted the e-mails for use during the special session, which
started Thursday, Dec. 3, and ended with the passage of the CSX deal on
Dec. 8.

8,037 missed e-mails

On Dec. 9, FDOT Deputy General Counsel Robert M. Burdick sent a letter
to Dockery informing her that the FDOT had overlooked e-mails because
“the search program that was run to identify records responsive [to]
your request had not functioned as expected.” The letter included 8,037
e-mails missed by DOT in an initial search because “the person
(originally pulling the e-mails) had made an input mistake,” according
to a DOT spokesman.

Dockery also learned that some were sent using code words, like
“pancake” and “french toast.” DOT Secretary Stephanie Kopelousos
brushed those off as a clever way that Deputy Secretary Kevin Thibault
was using to get attention on Kopelousos’ Blackberry’s e-mail subject
list.

“We didn’t circumvent anything,” Kopelousos told a reporter. “It was
something eye catching.”

Maybe so. But then there was the worrisome e-mail in which DOT attorney
Bruce Conroy told FDOT general counsel Alexis Yarbrough to use another
method “in lieu of e-mails” to discuss the state’s involvement with
railroad projects.

“It is evident through the words, actions and inactions of these state
officials that they are actively circumventing transparency laws,”
Dockery said. “Using code words in an effort to disguise the true
content of an e-mail is a violation of the public trust.”

Sink issued a similar statement on Monday afternoon: “We live in the
Sunshine State, and this is not the way the people’s business should be
done. Those who acted this way should be held accountable, which is why
if anyone at the Department of Transportation was involved in this
activity, including Secretary Kopelousos, they should immediately
resign.”

This isn’t new to the plan to pay $650 million to CSX to buy - but
still share - railroad tracks in the Orlando area to establish a
commuter rail system. The deal was hatched in secrecy and cloaked with
hidden budget items since it was first announced during the Jeb Bush
administration.

Apparently it keeps on keeping on: Now Gov. Charlie Crist’s
administration has egg on its face. Along with bacon and grits as
well.

 

FLORIDA TIMES-UNION

CSX’s Ward: SunRail Good Deal for State, High-Speed Will Cost Billions

 

Jacksonville-based CSX has come in for heavy criticism in the wake of
the Legislature agreeing to pay the railroad $432 million for 61 miles
of track in Central Florida to facilitate a commuter rail from Deland,
slicing through Orlando and to Poinciana, southwest of Disney World.
The arrangement, which will allow CSX to lease dual-purpose rail line
back from the state, requires CSX to spend $150 million in upgrades for
the commuter rail project.

The state hopes its actions will lay the foundation for high-speed
commuter rail. That project, which would feature trains topping 180
mph, would connect Tampa, Orlando and Miami. The preliminary map from
the U.S. Department of Transportation shows Jacksonville connected to
Atlanta and Savannah, but cut off from the rest of the state.

CEO Michael Ward defended the sale in an interview with the
Times-Union, and praised the commuter rail project, known as SunRail,
but raised caution flags about high-speed rail, which state politicians
seem eager to pursue, in part to attract federal stimulus dollars. Here
are edited excerpts from the interview:

Q. How has the push for commuter rail, including what was just pushed
through for Central Florida, affected your business? Has it presented
obstacles?

A. It’s an interesting balance. We have shareholders and what they
expect us to do is to make money hauling freight. We’re willing to work
with anybody, but we have four key principles involved: One, it has to
be as safe or safer than it was before. Second, there has to be
sufficient capacity to handle not only the passengers, but existing
freight and future freight growth. Third, we can’t subsidize it. And,
the one that gets the most controversial is that we’re not going to be
the ones who take any liability for personal injury in this. If you
think about it, it’s our obligations to our shareholders. If there are
no passengers on there, no passengers can get hurt. They can only get
hurt if we allow them on there.

Q. Is this arrangement different from other arrangements that you have
had around the country? First, the tracks for the 61 miles, have you
sold railroad bed before?

A. We have, and this one, how you package these things up ... I always
look at the total dollars. Every dollar we get is going back into the
state of Florida. We’re not taking a penny out of the state on this
one.

Q. You’re going to put all of the $432 million back into Florida?

A. One hundred percent into the state of Florida. On the S-line [CSX’s
track that runs from Callahan to Lakeland before shifting towards Palm
Beach and Miami], upgrading the intermodal facility (for rail, ship and
truck) at JaxPort ... we’ve committed that all of the money will be
spent in the state of Florida putting infrastructure in place. We
thought it was good that they got their commuter rail and we will
upgrade infrastructure to get congestion off the roads and lessen
pollution.

Q. The cost for the state’s liability policy is $2 million a year.
Freight does not need the amount of liability insurance required by
passenger rail and you have agreed to pay half of the state’s premium,
correct?

A. Yes, we are shouldering some of the cost of the state purchasing a
liability policy. We wanted to help with them buying the type of policy
they would need.

Q. Is that unusual?

A. No, we’re doing a similar thing up in Massachusetts where there were
similar concerns about the liability issue. As a matter of fact, what
we’re doing in Massachusetts and Florida is identical.

Q. In your view, should we be emphasizing commuter rail, like SunRail
around Jacksonville and other cities, or should we be emphasizing
high-speed rail — which should come first in Florida?

A. People see high-speed trains in France, Spain, Japan and China and
love them. Our country, what we’ve chosen to do, is build airports and
highways. We have this view that Amtrak is supposed to make money and
there’s not a passenger system in the world that’s making money. I
think you have to view that as something you provide to the public just
like you do airports, highways and ports. The government decides how
they are going to deploy mobility for its citizens and so far, no one
has been willing to spend the monies that it would take to do
high-speed rail

Q. The stimulus plan has set aside $8 billion for high speed rail. Is
that sufficient to begin the process?

A. If you want to put high-speed in American, it’s hundreds of billions
to build and then tens of billions to maintain and subsidize. Our view
is that high-speed rail should have dedicated, separated corridors.
There’s already an issue with people riding around gate crossings and
we’re travelling at 40-60 mph. Can you imagine a train going 180 mph?
There’s going to be very little lead time and people would be pulling
in front of these trains.

What some people would like to do is use our infrastructure to run
these rails, but you can’t achieve speeds of 180-200 mph on our
infrastructure because we’re not designed for it. In Florida, think
they are looking to go down the interstate highway. That’s the way to
do it. But, I don’t think people have an appreciation for how much it
would cost to build or maintain one.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 December 2009

It being the end of the year could only mean the pending award of the
"Brown Banana". This will be the fourth annual presentation of this
prestigious award which has grown in importance each year. It has grown
to epic proportion, so much so that I am unable to produce a trophy
worthy of the award.

To that end, it became necessary to retain the services of a Artist as
my production manager. His name is Antonio David Thomaso Turdero. 
I found him at the Banana Docks working on a Banana Boat from a Banana
Republic. He is a man of extreme talent, substance and a high tolerance
for pain.

I don't have a picture of him but I do have a picture of handicraft.
Scroll over to # 32 and behold his first prototype, he assures me he
can do better!

         http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/80700364/

Finally a trophy worthy of the award. Now tell me who wouldn't want
that on their Credenza at the office...who will it be?

Name: Dies Irae
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 December 2009

MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR
  A heartfelt "Thank You" to CSX for my most profitable year!! I just
keep making more money with each passing year.It is not because you
bastards are so benevolent,it is because you are so incompetent.I work
a yard job that has 5 or 6 hours of work but due to all the restrictive
work and safety rules it takes 12 hours a day to compleat the assigned
task(s)The track lists are never correct,we have to switch out our own
cars(even with a lead job),power needs to be hostled,the list goes on
an on.The trainmasters act as if they don't care about all the
overtime they are paying.CSX is great;just follow THEIR orders,obey
their rules TO THE LETTER and hold that pocket open.Thanks again CSX
and here's to making more money in 2010.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 December 2009

ATTN: Employees of Rocky Mount, NC

Trainmaster Roger Zeiger is now former Trainmaster Roger Zeiger and he
is on his way back to Rocky Mount or Hell or wherever it is that he
came from. He turned in his resignation papers to be effective December
31st. The official explanation by Huntington was that he was having
family trouble but in reality he was just a fuck up that couldn't hack
it in the corprate rat race. He had 2 or 3 people up on charges for
doing shit that turned out not to be aginst the rules and ended up
being dropped. He'd charge someone for something he didn't like, even
though it was perfectly legal. Then there was a barrage of calls to the
ethics hotline. The last one stemed from a shouting match in the yard
office with 2 30+ year men during which Zeiger made a comment about how
thankful we should all be for CSX allowing us to work for them without
having any education. So if your reading this Roger goodbye and good
fucking luck! I hope you burn in hell and I hope the uneducated
Conductors and Engineers make every day of you miserable existance a
living nightmare. If I were a short, ugly, incompitant,little piece of
shit like you i'd do myself a favor and go ahead and kill myself. If
you havn't already, you should give shooting yourself in your ugly
little face some thought. Most of the former Trainmasters I've known
were dead men walking when they wen't back to their tools anyway.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 December 2009

DOT used code words to discuss commuter rail
By Drew Petrimoulx @ December 14, 2009 1:55 PM

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/12/dot-used-code-words-to-discuss.html

Emails show DOT officials used secret code for conversations regarding
commuter rail legislation. 
State Senator Paula Dockery, one of the bills most ardent opponents,
spoke with WDBO Monday afternoon about the latest developments. 

Sen. Dockery said she knew something was up before the last special
session when she asked for email correspondence between DOT's top
brass and representatives of the CSX corporation. 

"We were sent 100 emails which were supposed to take their word for
were all the emails that existed over an eight-month period," she
said.

But the day after commuter rail passed, Dockery's office was notified
that there had been a mistake.

"We received a letter of apology stating that there was a computer
glitch, and here are our 8,000 emails," she said. 

In those emails, DOT officials use code words like "waffle,"
"pancake" and "French toast" - possibly to disguise them from
public records requests. They also show that the top brass at the CSX
corportation, who stands to make nearly a half-billion dollars from the
deal, were very influential in writing the legislation. 

Now, Dockery is calling on Governor Charlie Crist to veto the
legislation or stall signing it until there's further investigation
into the emails and influence of CSX on the legislation.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 December 2009

UTU = You answerphone, you go.

BLET = If its not your job/turn, you can turn it down, as they run
roster, answer phone second time(after roster run) must go.

Regardless, if you are not first out, dont answer phone. (Check
computer, to see what they are calling you for,....)

But otherwise, I would check with you LC to be sure

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 December 2009

NOMO you mentioned

Someone tell me it ain't Tony's Nephew!  
 Most likely one of Tonys sperm donations.

Name: Tom Wolf
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 December 2009

Bloomberg News circulated the following story by Angela Greiling Keane
on September 29.)

NEW YORK Union Pacific Corp. and other U.S. railroads may be able to
boost profits by trimming locomotive crews to one person from two under
rail-safety legislation moving through Congress, a Morgan Stanley
analyst said.

Rail carriers do not care about their employees safety much less the
safety of the public, and it shows by them pushing for one man crews on
20,000 ton trains. Just goes to show its all about the money and not
safety as they all want us to believe.

The measure, which Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid today called a top
priority, would require technology that may allow railroads to get
approval for one-person crews, said William Greene, the New York-based
analyst, in a report yesterday.

``By our estimates, one-man crews could ultimately add
7-13 percent to earnings, far outweighing any near-term negatives from
the bill,'' he said in the report to clients.



The technology, called positive train control, would automatically
apply brakes when engineers miss signals. Interest in the legislation
was renewed by a Sept. 12 collision in Los Angeles between a commuter
train and a Union Pacific freight train that killed 26 people. The
bill, passed by the House on Sept. 24, doesn't specifically address
locomotive crew size, and rail labor unions have opposed one-person
crews.

Federal Railroad Administrator Joseph Boardman told reporters on a
Sept. 15 conference call that positive train control technology could
have prevented the Los Angeles crash. The bill would require installing
such systems on major rail lines and locomotives that travel on those
tracks by 2015.

Work-Hour Limits

Other provisions in the legislation, including limits on the number of
hours train operators are allowed to work, may reduce profit, Greene
said, adding that rail productivity gains might offset any losses.

``As a rough guideline, we assume these changes may add an incremental
1 percent to the total growth rate in labor expense,'' Greene said.
``When we consider the rails' continued push for labor productivity,
potential changes in pension expense and incentive compensation, and
the relatively large growth rates we are modeling for 2009, it's quite
possible investors won't even notice the impact from the safety bill in
the 2009 financials.''

The bill's proposed limit of 276 work hours a month for train
operators led the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen to
stay neutral on the bill, union Vice President John Tolman said. The
union lobbied for some of its safety provisions, including banning
so-called camp cars to house employees and attention to rail workers'
radiation exposure when they haul nuclear waste, he said.

The 276-hour cap would affect some union members, Tolman said.

``We do also have some jobs that people work 2 days on, 3 days off and
may come into the 276, but their quality of life is a lot better,''
he said in an interview. ``They know when they're coming into
work.''

The United Transportation Union, whose members include railroad
conductors, who work alongside engineers in locomotives, supports the
bill.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 December 2009

Heard today that Gary Jackson retired as LOR Trainmaster on The NO&M and
was replaced by an Asst. Terminal Trainmaster from Mobile Named
Ingram...Someone tell me it ain't Tony's Nephew!

Name: jerry springer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 December 2009

Up next we have the guy who slept with his sisters man and the dog who
was caught in the middle!!!!

Name: Jen
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 December 2009

Well first off I would like to thank so many of you for your support. It
was completely unexpected. Let me make a few things clear. for one Billy
and I were NOT broken up when  this whole thing started. It was the day
after I left that her little silver car was parked in my driveway and
everyday there after. If it were so innocent I think Billy would have
mentioned it. I also know that 5 weeks earlier when I was out of town
Tammy made sure to send tons of messages and show up to Billys shows.
Funny how she only appeared when I was out of town. Coward! I dont have
a change of heart and want to be back with Billy. What for so we could
have the never ending trust issue? No thank you. The whole thing is
really a suprise concidering what a racist and bigit Billy and his
family are. My whole point is that these two are not going to think
that they can destroy someone elses well being for a temporary time and
then ship them off across the country and never have to hear about it
again. I am just making sure everyone knows exactly where that
relationship stemmed from. And that they are crappy human beings. Billy
even had issues reguarding Tammy when he was still married to Torrey. I
dont miss my relationship with Billy but I do admit that I miss the
friendship we had that was destroyed by Tammy's insecurities. I dont
want nor do I need my things back expecially after she has been wearing
them. I can and already have started to rebuild and I have learned some
very valuable lessons that I will remember. I also know that Tammy and
Billy wont last. He was still crying over me and calling me asking me
to come back even after they started and it only tells me he never had
the chance to heal and later when he wakes up he will resent Tammy for
taking advantage. I mean c'mon we werent even split up a month before
he was engaged to her so that tells me one of two things, Either he is
an emotional mess and she is a staple or maybe that their relationship
has been going on for a lot longer than they say.
By posting the things I have posted I did not do it with the intension
of people feeling sorry for me at all. I just wanted to make sure that
as I have sat back with the phone calls from Billy's team to go kill
myself or talk crap about my 8 yr old daughter or make fun of the fact
that my family has passed away and I dont have one or try to push me
over the edge, then they all change their numbers so that I could not
put in my two cents. I guess I can just put it in here. 
I was nice and quiet in the beginning but now things have gotten pushed
to far with the nonstop phone calls and emails.
The threats dont scare me and the thought of those two together makes
me ill, not jealous. My life and world is back on track and I am very
happy however I still feel there is unfinished buisness. I do believe I
deserve some closure and if this is the only way I can seem to get it
then I will do what ever I have to do.
Again thank you so much for your support and nice words. I do
appreciate it and did take it to heart. 
Oh and if some of these responses that came from Sammy, Hammy, Mammy
and infact it is Tammy well you know my phone number and I have been
waiting for you to stand up and act like a real women and have guts
enough to handle your own shit instead of hiding behind Billy or his
skank sister. feel free to give me a ring. I would love to hear what it
is you have to say for yourself and actions. I think you havent called
yet because you know you are wrong and I have hit the nail on the head
when I tell you what a slut and piece of shit you really are. I hope
you just remember that what comes around goes around and Karma is a
bitch. I just hope I get to hear about it when you get yours!
Jen

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 December 2009

Hey Hammy, Sammy, Mammy or is it really William Gray?

Give it up...nobody cares except maybe you. Any "Trainmaster" is
guilty by association...at least the beat down Danny Spencer got
hasn't occurred, yet. This has gotten almost as much press as the
Tiger Woods scandal and like Tiger, Gray will have to deal with the
circumstances.

Oh, if you're not Gray just remember that when you lay with dogs, you
get fleas!

Name: Hammy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 December 2009

Jen,  1 question......  Weren't you the one who left before Billy and
Tammy got together??? A change of mind doesn't give you the right to
just walk back into his life.  What did you expect......  for him to
sit and wait for you? Move on and get over it just like you planned to
do from the minute you walked out the door.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 December 2009

Hey Loco 30+:

Any woman that thinks getting married allows them to stop working,
unless she's marrying a Doctor or CEO, is delusional. I don't know
what the highest paid engineer on the system makes...I guess it
depends on seniority and sub but certainly less than $150K. If they
lived modestly, they could support a family on one income. I also would
think that working the 160+ hour pay halves required to generate
that income would wreck the family in short order.

The new HOS law has made working those hours impossible...The only
thing on the corner of Easy St. and Got-It-Made Blvd, is the Heartbreak
Hotel!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 December 2009

when did this turn into the Oprah Winfrey show?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 December 2009

NoMo

I know in Virginia laws are still in place that it's illegal to
cohabitate outside of marriage even though it's not enforced. The
courts frown on these type of cases over property divisions outside of
matrimony with little or no sympathy. Every state is different. Common
law has pretty much been abandoned. I'm sure some states still have it
on the books. In Jen's case it's a matter of the pendulum swings both
ways. Plenty of men get used an abused. I'm a prime example years ago
while I was out of town on a run I came home to an empty house nothing
left. I ended the relationship weeks before she was procrastinating on
leaving finally had enough told her to be gone by the time I got back
she was so was everything else. Only difference my bank accounts were
intact. It was worth getting rid of her. Sometimes a fresh start is in
order as it was in my case. I also find a lot of women when hooking on
to a railroader have this urge to stop working thinking they hit easy
street. Ridicules, unless someone plans to do the right thing by
getting married have babies even then the woman needs to have their own
income. If anyone says they want you to stop working and be a stay at
home that's a sign to run the other way. It means that person wants
complete control finacially an emotionally. Not a good place to be.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 December 2009

Hey Jen:

I don't know if Maryland is a Common Law Marriage State or not. Might
be worth looking into. Loco 30+ is right...get a Attorney, if you are
unable to afford on, there may be a Volunteer Lawyers Program or Legal
Services Program that can help.

Good luck...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 December 2009

Jen

Your biggest mistake was relying totally on someone else. Never quit a
job. Always keep separate bank accounts even if you're married. Never
give/loan money you can't afford to lose. As I get older I realise my
generation screwed up one basic concept never live with someone without
the protection of marriage. Not that it is a gaurentee it does afford
some protection. People think twice about living with someone if they
know 50+% of everything they own they might lose. Your situation has
been played out countless times not just with railroaders it seems to
be common place today. This isn't the forum to bring it up. There are
two sides to every story. If you have proof that he brought someone
into your bed then ripped you off take him to court and sue him. The
court systems are getting tired of straightening out the problems of
those who opt to live together without being married. In the law there
really is no protection. While I understand your anger and frustration
chalk it up to a lesson learned try not to repeat it. Good luck.

Name: Jen
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 December 2009

This is refering to the post I made reguarding Billy Gray and Tammy
Zembower. First of all "Sammy" it is very obvious and apparent that
you do not know me or the situation at all what so ever. If you did you
would have never used the word "false". If you would like to talk
welfare and class then lets do just that. I have never in my life
collected welfare until I was convinced to move myself and my daughter
in with Billy. It amazed me that a man could work a job for $23.50 hr
and couldnt put food on the table for his family. This wasnt an issue
in the beginning because I had a very heafty savings account that was
drained after months and months of supporting our family. You left out
the details that if it werent for me that our kids wouldnt have even
had a christmas last year or that his daughter probably still wouldnt
even have a bed in her room to sleep on and would still be sleeping
with Billy.His daughter wouldn't have had the dream room she asked
for. There wouldn't have been anything other paper cups and plates in
the house or decent clean furnishings in the home. Those are just a few
things that I took care of. Make sure you post those details since you
seem to know it all. Its a joke that you make it sound as if I didnt
have a dime ever and sucked of the welfare system. I had a monthly
income to help support our house hold. Before ever moving there I
always had very good careers and no problem at all supporting myself.
Lets touch on the "class" issue for a second as well. If going into
another women's home while she is out of town and laying in her bed
with her fiance, stealing her clothing and jewelry, destroying a
relationship and 2 young childrens home and then doesn't even have the
guts to face me, is your definition of class, well then I dont want any
of it honey you and Tammy can keep that kind of class. I know I can
sleep well at night knowing I have never done something so low and
sleezy to another women.
I didn't work because Billy asked me to stay home and take care of the
kids. And I did work in a lot of other ways just not in the traditional
sense. 
I think that before you or anyone else post a reply to my comments you
should get all your facts straight not just the 2 bit one sided story
from Tammy who has no idea who I am or what I am about. None of you
lived behind my and Billy's closed doors, you dont know what words
were spoken, emotions felt or depth of our relationship. 
As for my crude language you felt you needed to apologize for well
don't. The words are merely definitions of what I know Billy and Tammy
to be. The words such as slut, bitch, skank, whore and/or cunt is
exactly what Tammy is to me and the words cheater, liar, piece of shit
and asshole is exactly what Billy turned out to be. 
 Anyway what it all comes down to "Sammy" you have no clue what you
are talking about and spouting off info that isn't confirmed at all
only makes you look as ignorant as the people you are trying to
protect. It doesn't bother me or effect me in the sense that you had
hoped. Let Billy and Tammy fight their own battles. Dont apologize for
my language or messages posted, apologize for your ignorance and
boredom to even involve yourself. 
I would like to thank "NoMo" for your comment left for Sammy, I do
appreciate it very much.I think you made some very valid points and
that is why we havent seen anything posted back. Again thank you.
Jen

Name: averagejoe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 December 2009

hey there guys it is the christmas season all times for happiness lol
one year to the day csx told me i have a job but guess what no job the
sad part is that i actually thought i would get a job seeing as my
daddy didnt work for the rr, i wasnt in the military because i couldnt
decide what i wanted to do for myself, or i dont like to suck on big
hard harry jew peckers so to all you semi rich dick merry fuckin
christmas
tell csx to blow me cuase i still wont blow them for a job

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 December 2009

A conductor working a yard list 6 times out gets called for a job at a
separate terminal, 30 miles away and with it's own xboard. Although he
is qualified at both, he turns down the job and is miss called. I know
engineers have to work if they answer the phone, but my experience is
conductors had the option to turn it down (I've done it in the past
without a problem) The same applies for road work off a yard list.
Obviously he should not have answered and checked the computer. I'm
sure that will earn a miss call soon, too.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 December 2009

Ok, Ok...since you said it like that I guess I have to agree with you;
it is better to be able to vent on this site instead of shooting
someone.  Besides that...I have to give you guys credit for sticking in
there for your families at a job you don't like.  I guess at least you
are working and not relying on someone else to support you or laying
around somewhere all smoked up and not giving a shi*t!  Ok guys...in
that case...GOOD FOR YOU!!

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 December 2009

Believe me, I do have compassion for anyone who is out of work or
struggling right now.  I'm also not opposed to anyone who is
completely happy that works for CSX.  I'm sure there are hundreds of
guys out there who have never had problems with this company so more
power to them.  I'm just not one of those people. The only reason I
even replied is because people from the outside looking in don't
really understand a lot of what is going on right now with our unions
and this company.  I'm 100 percent sure CSX isn't the only major
corporation that treats their employees like shit, I'm just glad I've
got an outlet to bitch about it.  If we all bottled the shit up inside
of us all the time we would probably snap.  Maybe this website has
prevented someone from getting shot, ya never know loco +30.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 December 2009

Lloyd, Lloyd, Lloyd

You have to have some compassion. This person has no clue as to what
this site is about. We know all to well it's a place to bitch and moan
about CSX and the unions. I'm sure not to many corporations have the
dubious honor of having their employees gifted with a website that they
have no control over. Evidence shows they tried to take down Csx-sucks
through the courts trying to have the right to expose those who post
and lost. In that regards America still has some bastion of freedom.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 December 2009

Hey nonner, I see your point but just shut up.  A company is only as
good as the employees who work for them. Everyone should appreciate
what they have...there is no doubt about that.  Being that you
apparently dont work for the railroad there is much to learn and know
about what goes on.  How many times are guys going to come on here and
complain about people complaining?  We only complain because of the
assanine decisions our upper management make, the shit we have to go
through to get paid what we are owed, the hiring process and
procedures, (paying to get your job..i love that one), corporate execs
being way overpaid, and a rule book thicker than the yellow pages.  I
guess we should just all get computer chips implanted in our heads so
we follow all procedures and refrain from bitching.  Oh, and before you
tell me or anyone else to quit if we don't like it, please be prepared
to take care of my bills even though I dont live above my means.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 December 2009

Sheetz and McDonalds also pay for hours worked Bro.  

Please don't try to act I am miscommunicating my message...you know
exactly what I am talking about. When you went for your interview you
were talking yourself up like you were the President of the United
States. I can hear it now..."yes, I have worked in all weather
conditions, all shifts...I am the BEST!!  Yea, yea...they fell for it
and now look what they have!  Another ungrateful employee who is taking
up space of someone that deserves it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 December 2009

The CSX is not paying for a home, nor are they paying for food. They
simply pay for hours and miles worked, after the work is done. The RR
is not a job it is a lifestyle, some fit in and most do not. You would
be on the Not side Bro.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 December 2009

While doing a search for a job I just happened to come across this site
and was so surprised at the content that I just had to post.  I am so
saddened that some of the employees of this company have such
negativity against them. 

Maybe for one day you could take a walk in my shoes.  I lost my job
during this turmoiled economy and would be happy to shovel sh*t right
now just to feed my family. Despite having some money saved for a rainy
day, we have lost our home and everything we worked for all these years.
 My wife and I were employed by the same company that shut it's doors
after 46 years.

I just wanted to say that if you were in my shoes, you might appreciate
the people who are paying for your home, buying your food, putting your
children through college, and helping you to live a comfortable life. 
I guess the best thing for you to do is get another job where you
don't have to work in a place that makes you miserable like this.  How
about Sheetz?!?!?  I heard they are hiring and you can bet I am going to
apply; I would be thrilled to work there.....just to know that I can
feed my children tonight.

Best of luck to you all!!  I hope something better comes along for you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 December 2009

Mr. Professional is Pete Burrus of Nashville. He is the worst Div. Mgr.
known on CSX. I can't understand why he hasn't been shafted years
ago. Everyone hates you Burrus, including your own management!

Name: JJ Boyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 December 2009

Just found out thet a long time fellow employee at collinwood ohio yard
in cleveland has a snitch . he pretends to be your freind and the rats
you out to the company . Conductor JIM BOYD  may you rot in hell . the
trainmaster are bad ,But you come from behind and stab your brothers in
the back !!!!  You better work in a well lighted area Jimmy boy

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 December 2009

Hey Sammy:

If indeed "The relationship of William Gray and Tammy Zembower
requires neither explanation nor any type of justification", then why
are you trying to explain it? Makes me think there's some truth to
it.

Why would also take it upon yourself to apologize for someone else
unless you do have something to gain? Everyone on this site has issues
with CSX or one of their stupidvisors and since you seem to know Jen
well enough to know she's on welfare, perhaps you can enlighten us
with what her issues are. If you find the language offensive you are
free to read anything more to your liking.

"We have all seen and recognize this class of person". With that
statement it seems to me that you are rather pompous and judgemental.

Based on the time of your post I would surmise you are at work and on a
CSX terminal when you made it...isn't that against CSX Internet
policy?

Finally, Jen's post was five days old and had no responses to it until
your post this morning. It's a save bet that it will now be revisited
and I wouldn't be surprised if it were commented on...perhaps by some
of the Cumberland, MD crew!

Name: Sammy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 December 2009

In response to a post created by Jen:  

The relationship of William Gray and Tammy Zembower requires neither
explanation nor any type of justification.  The people who personally
know them know that the accusations made against them are false, and
the rest does not matter.  My only reason for posting this response is
to apologize for the unprofessional, trashy content of the original
post by Jen.  You have to understand that Jen has a lot of underlying
issues and when you rely on working people to support you through the
state welfare system, you have a lot of time on your hands to do this
type thing.  We have all seen and recognize this class of person; they
have nothing to lose. 

 Again, I apologize for her and the distasteful language.  And, I truly
do hope that one day she will get a life of her own.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 December 2009

As much as I despised Ingram and the damage caused by his actions it's
still not just cause to wish suffering and death on anyone. He'll have
to answer one day for the things he did in his life. I'll leave that to
a higher power. Besides Karma could turn around and bite those who wish
bad to happen in the arse.

Name: VAMBO RAMBO
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 December 2009

Nothing is going to change when Tony Ingram leaves. He has set the stage
just like he did with NS. He is pure scum and I really hope he does not
live very long after he retires. A slow painful death would be very
very nice. Some form of cancer. As for Cindy Sanborn she is a dike.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 December 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBvKSiljieo

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 December 2009

...And to think, I was worried about the "Brown Banana" pool. Silly
me, plenty of fresh meat. Looks like Tony, Dave and Wolfe have company
for years to come!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 December 2009

There are no managers in Augusta or Florence right now.  Bud Carson and
Chris Guenther were together in Augusta and ruined the place.  Guentehr
left and messed up Florence so they sent Carson back to finish it off
and he has nothing to do but screw with people and how they provide for
there families in Augusta since his wife left him for another guy.  I
can't have a family life so neither can you. I look forward to the day
that budget and protect your shove arent the only things he has to look
forward too.  Billy Egan is the worst of the bunch and will get his one
day.  Wolfe has taught these guys nothing but how to harrass people and
they better look out because daddy is leaving.  They should take a look
out how things are done in Spartanburg.  One of the managers there is a
total idiot.  All hail Swafford and all to hell Wolfe.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 December 2009

I think Swafford will clean house....  If he loses Guenther, Carson,
Emelken, Arts, Castle and a few others then he can change things. 
These guys have all of the failures.  None of them have any railroad
sense.  Wolfe will get whats coming to him sooner or later and so will
all of these guys.  They need to quit cutting jobs, going one man and
testing and try to just thank people for a change.  Some of these guys
had better find new jobs if Jermaine does fire them.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 December 2009

Thank god that the Wolfe is gone.  One can only hope that Swafford
doesnt try to emulate him.  Then again he would be a fool to change
things too much.  I just hope he changes some of the managers on this
division.  Chris Guenther and Bud Carson are two of Wolfe's killers. 
They need to go away if things are going to change.  Guenther is an ass
all around.  Carson gets along with everyone but expects entirely too
much.  My understanding is that these two alone have the worst safety
records on the railroad.  Now he wants to cut more jobs at Augusta. 
Guess daddy Wolfe told him too.  Steve Ammons is invisible until he
wants something just like all of Hamlet.  Derick Teal is an idiot just
like Linder.  Please get rid of these guys Swafford.  You will never
succeed with them here.

Name: sad
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 December 2009

i have heard that in the start of 2010 , everyone will be back to work.
has anyone heard about this if so please let me know .....

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 December 2009

Jermaine played college football for Marshall in Huntington and I had a
good relationship with him when I was on the Huntington and Louisville
division. He was cooperative -and still learning. My dealings with him
were from an angle where he had to sometimes listen to an old head talk
reason to him. If he is from Marshall he can't be all bad!!  Its been
awhile since I have seen him!!

Cindy has never been a problem for me. I worked close to her when she
was still in Pittsburgh and found her to be a 24/7 hands on manager. I
remember very well when she sat on an engine for hours with an engineer
who had just stuck a knuckle through the driver side of an auto and
killed a man on a crossing. The engineer later told me that she had
saved his sanity by not letting anyone get near him until he was ready
to face the world. She showed great compassion in this case. And her
pedigree is something she does not brag about, at least not that I have
ever heard, but it is quite impressive, do the research.  

My report on both is positive.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 December 2009

Highball

It seems that under Ingrams tenure as SVP one had to radically decend
into an uncaring miserable arsehole. That's seems to be the case with
Frulla and Swafford. I knew both as trainmasters before Ingram joined
CSX. Giving the axe seems to be a mutual trait once reaching upper
management on a division. The only one who didn't mind embracing this
type of philosophy was the Wolfe. Seeing Brown played second fiddle to
Ingram and had to adher to his policies it's a wait and see situation
on wether there will be change or just more of the same.

Name: jen
E-mail: jennygirlgray@gmail.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 December 2009

Wow watch out for that employee code of ethics when they have people
like William Gray and Tammy Zembower working for them at the cumberland
M.D. CSX. a slut and a cheating liar all wrapped into one. Did you know
while williams fiance was out of town Tammy would sneak her skanky ass
over there and get all up on it. when the relationship was having
issues she did everything she could to split them and keep them split.
now they are engaged less than a month after william (billy Gray) and
his Fiance broke up. wonder where tammy got some of her clothes? she
stole them out of the ex-fiance's closet. classy huh! Its okay cause
we should always donate to the less fortunate rather it be old clothes
or worn out men. And does CSX even care that they have this whole long
speal about thier CSX families and code of ethics when this is whats
really going on.I wonder how long she has been sneaking down there to
give a cat eye knob polish. From what I hear with Tammy its not the
first and it wont be the last. Good luck you trashy little whore.

Name: Highball
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 December 2009

Sandborn may in fact have a good chunk of shares in CSX.  Her father,
Dick Sandborn was a big CSX exec before he left for Conrail to become
its president in the mid-80's.  He sadly passed away at a rather young
age only 6 months into his tenure at Conrail.  From what I've heard,
Mr. Sandborn was a pretty good fellow.  But I've heard little good
about his daughter.

In my home terminal, the only two officers I really was sorry to see
were RFE Wayne Mitchell and terminal super John Gaylord.  Both are good
guys.  I think Mitchell is at Avon and Gaylord is GM at Albany now.

Name: Highball
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 December 2009

Bad news Florence Division.  Swafford is a total douchebag, or at least
he was with us on the Louisville Division as Asst. GM.  If he changes
great, but don't bet on it.  You don't get promoted to division GM by
being a nice guy.  You get it because you are willing to wield a sharp
axe and do what the bosses above tell you.  He may be a great guy
personally, I don't know.  But professionally, I'm happy to see him
move as far away from Cincinnati as possible.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 December 2009

In my opinion Boards of Directors are just a throw back to the 1800's.
Nothing more than a good ole boys club, unnecessary, redundant and
expensive.

With that said, BoD are suppose to be independent and provide
unbiased advice to management and fiduciary oversight to the
shareholders; in practice however, that's not how it works. Most BoD
are loaded with management cronies. How can the President and CEO who
is also the Chairman be independent and unbiased?

Over the last 10 years or so you are starting to see shareholder
proposals to separate the CEO and Chairman's positions. Of coarse
the BoD always recommend the shareholders vote against it. How is that
recommendation unbiased and in the best interest of the shareholders?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 December 2009

Depends on how much Jermaine was willing to change to go higher up.
I've know him since he was a trainmaster in the late '90s at Fulton
then terminal manager at AACA a few years later. He seemed to be a
decent fair person. Then again so was Bob Frulla in his younger days as
a trainmaster. Things change the higher up someone goes in the corporate
ladder. I don't think he'll be anything like Wolfe at least one can
hope not.

Name: shithead
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 December 2009

does anyone have any info on jermaine swofford is he a ok guy i just
hope and pray he aint like wolfe GOD  i am glad to see him gone maybe
some of these trainmasters will be on there way out too i wander what
chris guenther is gonna do now that daddy wolfe want be around to
protect him or shoot off in his mouth anymore lmao

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 December 2009

Why wouldn't Ward have the upper hand? His titles include CEO,
President, and Chairmen of the BOD for CSX. I'd call him king. This
relatively new concept over the last decade or so of one person holding
the top slots in a corporation could be considered a monarchy. It's a
concept that's baffling for someone to have that much power without
owning the corporation. In reality he's just an employee. He's not a
J Paul Getty who built an elaberate fortune from the ground up. Ward
was able to wrestle control after Snow left to persue a short lived
political carreer. In my opinion the process of checks and balances
were eliminated with this take over. Look at it this way a corporations
president answers to the CEO, the CEO answers to the BOD all these lead
to one person Ward. Yeah, I'd call him King of CSX.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 December 2009

Bye Bye Tony... I'll be at your retirement party to use me steel toed
boots and drill you in the ass. Thanks for fucking our world up and
still not getting the safety award...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 December 2009

NoMo:

Craig King, Chief Engineer of Communications & Signals will take Cindy
Sanborn's place.  Tom Wolfe will be promoted to Assistant VP-Safety,
and will be responsible for making sure that Positive Train Control is
implemented safely and effectively.  Jermaine Swafford, Assistant DM of
the Louisville Division will be taking over the Florence Division as DM.
 Mr. Pendergrass will have an easier time now that Wolfe will be down
the hall so he can keep a close eye on him!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 December 2009

Cindy Sanborn a major stockholder...I don't think so?

Please produce your evidence...anything less than 5% isn't even
reportable.

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 December 2009

I'm sure Mr. Ingram has many, many millions socked away after his years
of leading the Gestapo.  His protege Mr Brown will toe the company line
and collect his many millions over the rest of his career, might even
line up to be ceo if Ward ever pulls the pin.  Don't expect conditions
to improve .  Their management approach is working.  Just ask that new
TM that hired out this spring!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 December 2009

CSX Foamers and Slaves:

Look for a quick exit for Brown if he follows Tony's Nazi Management.

Brown's Daddy is gone so he will have to produce or get the hell out
of the way.

Cindy Sanborn is a major stockholder and should have the method to
replace Brown if desired or needed.  Ward still has the upper hand at
the present I would guess. 

Brown is in a good position to make things right at CSX but that will
not be easy with the damage Tony has done.  


Mike Ward must have got Tony out or he was going with him.

Now it the time to take a stand and end this Nazi Discrimination.   

Stand up against these people and post on this site.    Write your
Senators and Congressmen.   CSX must follow government rules because
they benefit from tax payer dollars.    Hold them to the fire.  Make
the Unions take a stand. not the previous Chicken Shit they did before
and while Tony was doing this damage.

Let prove Tony is really insane.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 December 2009

The King is dead...long live the King!

Lets think about Ingram's retirement for a moment, did he retire
voluntarily or involuntary?

What do we know? Ingram's 62 and could work another 8 years if he
wanted to. During those 8 years he could conservatively earn another 
$16 million. Considering his megalomania, voluntary retirement seems
odd. When Ingram hired on he promised he would bring a Harriman to CSX,
he has failed to do so. In fact, his only accomplishment seems to be
bringing production to a crawl and employee morale, dedication and
loyalty to an all time low. 

The only reason I see for a voluntary retirement is to get out while
the getting good...before the whole thing goes down in flames, medical
reasons or to save his reputation.

Ward is 59 years old, David Brown is 50 years old and Cindy Sanborn is
44 years old. I would look for Ward to retire at 62 if not sooner and
Brown to succeed him. Brown and Sanborn will lead CSX, if it's still
here for the next 20+ years.

Brown's tenure will be what he makes of it. I would suggest that he
would be foolish to maintain Ingram's policies; they didn't work for
Ingram and they won't work for Brown. Even though he worked for the NS
he took his marching orders from Ingram. It is in Brown's best interest
moving forward to have the employees fight with him rather than against
him.

I don't know if Pendergrass is still working, if he is and considering
his time and experience he would have been a better choice than Sanborn.
However, this now leaves the Northern Region without a VP and new
leadership is necessary. Considering the deaths and other accidents
that have occurred on her watch, her promotion is a shrewd move...it
gets her out of the Northern Region and it lets CSX brag about
promoting Females into upper management positions.

Perhaps Ward and the BoD have seen the light, lets hope so. I see this
as a win win situation except it sure has messed up my thinking with
regards to the "Brown Banana" this year!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 December 2009

I wouldn't hold your breath things are going to change for the better.
I agree with brakestick. Brown was brought over from the NS seeing he
had already worked with Ingram. I think they have a lot of the same
objectives. Seeing he's only 50 years old that's a lot of years to
kick people around. The confusing one is this Cindy Sanburn. So, what
do we end up with a bunch of clerks (sorry no disrespect to clerks)
running the railroad. Not one of these people ever got their hands
dirty working on the railroad. Not one clue of actual physical
operations. I'm afraid it's more of the same possibly could get
worse.

Name: Brakestick
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 December 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 December 2009

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 

Tony is History.   Maybe Brown and Sanborn are smarter since they did
not got to the low rate college Tony attended.   Time will tell.

Good Fucking Bye you Nazi Bastard.



Let's not hold our breath, from what I hear ole David Brown is worse
than Tony. I know nothing of this Cindy Sanborn, who knows what will
happen the first of the year.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 December 2009

Hey Steve:

Sounds like sour grapes to me...been left out of the loop? Why?

Stay West of the Mississippi, CSX gets as far as NO, LA; Memphis, TN;
STL, MO.

You get the idea...if you can't get enough work out of the BNSF, UP
and all the Class II's and Class III's in the Houston area maybe you
should consider another speciality.

Plenty of plaintiff's Lawyers east of the Mississippi, nobody will
travel 400-500 miles to hire an Attorney.

You should have more than enough work to keep you and several
Associates and Paralegals busy...if you don't you can always 
advertise like that waxy Robert Goldberg!

If you are going to impress railroaders, forget the $5,000.00 Armani
suits and the big MB 600's. They are not impressed...hard to tell the
difference between a Vega and a 600 series when you smack one on a
grade crossing...capisce!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 December 2009

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 

Tony is History.   Maybe Brown and Sanborn are smarter since they did
not got to the low rate college Tony attended.   Time will tell.

Good Fucking Bye you Nazi Bastard.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 December 2009

Dear All- 

I post this link for your consideration and comment:
http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/legal-news-announcements/18954-bringing-light-sense-dlc-process.html

Take Care & Be Safe.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 December 2009

ZOMG Tony Ingram is retiring at the end of december

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 December 2009

CSX Transportation Names David Brown Executive Vice President and Chief
Operating Officer 

Names Cindy Sanborn Vice President, Chief Transportation Officer


JACKSONVILLE, Fla., Nov. 30 /PRNewswire/ -- CSX Transportation (CSXT)
announced today that David A. Brown will be named Executive Vice
President and Chief Operating Officer upon the retirement of Tony
Ingram, December 31, 2009.


"I am excited about the leadership and experience David will provide.
He is well qualified to continue the outstanding work of Tony Ingram
and our team in safety, reliability and customer service," said
Michael J. Ward, CSX chairman, president and CEO. 


"Tony plans a well-deserved retirement after nearly 40 years in
railroading. In the last few years, he has delivered to CSXT, its
customers, employees and communities, one of the most successful
operating tenures in U.S. railroading. Among many other
accomplishments, Tony has built an exceptional team that will continue,
and build upon, his remarkable legacy," Ward said.


Brown, 50, has a nearly 30-year railroad career, most recently serving
as Vice President and Chief Transportation Officer, with operational
responsibility for the railroad's 21,000 mile-transportation network.
Brown holds a bachelor's degree in business administration with an
emphasis on transportation from The University of Tennessee.


Succeeding Brown as Vice President and Chief Transportation Officer
will be Cindy M. Sanborn, 44, who has been serving as Vice
President-Northern region, responsible for operations and service.


"Cindy is a veteran railroader with vast knowledge of operations after
more than 22 years of service. She has demonstrated strong leadership
and delivered exceptional results in a variety of field and
headquarters posts," Ward said. 


Sanborn holds a bachelor's degree in computer science from Emory
University and a master's in business administration from the
University of Miami.


CSX Transportation Inc. is a principal operating company of CSX
Corporation. CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is one of
the leading transportation companies, providing rail, intermodal and
rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network
spans 21,000 miles with service to 23 eastern states and the District of
Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river, and lake ports.
More information about CSX Corporation and its subsidiaries is
available at the company's web site, www.csx.com.



SOURCE CSX Transportation

Gary Sease, CSX Transportation, +1-877-835-5279

Name: Islam Sucks
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 November 2009

Was scrolling back and came across this gem. Ah, yes, over the past six
years, Misters Ingram, Brown, & Co. have succeeded in bringing the CSX
down to their lowest level of incompetency by mirroring the NS in
almost every way. We can now merge CSX with NS and no one would know
the difference. We can call it Penn Central II. 

====================================================================
Name: ex-con
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 January 2004

Well fellas, life on the other side of the fence is no better, come
work for the nazi southern, everything you guys are talking about is
like deja vu, The ns is by far worse to their employees in my area than
the csx is.  Although incompetent and stupid, the csx up here is not
about pulling their employees out of service like the nazis are.  The
ns yanks half their workforce out of service for chickenshit things and
then wants to know why they don't have any crews to run their trains. 
They hire a bunch of punks out of college who don't have a clue how to
run a railroad and they make them trainmasters who's primary job is to
fire people, and then they bounce their stupid asses all around the ns
system when they feel the need.  Like you're kkk pic says, another
traditional southern company with traditional southern
values...yeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhaaaaawww.  Ever since they took over conrail
operations up here, it has been like a circus and to tell you the truth
it is kind of funny to watch these dimwits attempt to run this place,
doing things the conrail way, a typical flat switching job would knock
out 150 cars in 4 hours and go home, now it takes them 8 hours to
switch 50 cars on account of the bullshit work rules that the third
reich have implemented....ns-sucks.com anyone?????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 November 2009

These guys were not in business to provide work and I don't think they
are in business anymore =|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8HcQ1Va6RY

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 November 2009

Hey Con 30+:

Certainly a classic and one of my favorites. 

You're right, they're not in business to provide us work, they're in
business to make money; whether it's moving freight or selling cars.
The problem is regardless of what kind of business it is, moving
freight or manufacturing cars, it takes men and women to do the work.
Symbionses at it's best...neither can live and prosper without the
other. Ironic isn't it that we become the pawns of the oppressors!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 November 2009

I don't know if any of you have read Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged). It
takes the entitlement mentality to the limit. It is also has a railroad
theme.  The main point is that the railroad (or Food Lion or General
Motors or McDonalds) is not in business to provide work to us. They are
in business to make money moving freight. I am entitled to a paycheck
for every day I work. That's it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 November 2009

Hey Other:

It has taken us 45 years to get where we are today...it well take at
least that to reverse the trend.

It all begins at home and in school and is rife throughout all social
and economics classes. Don't think the "Trust Funders" are any
different, they're not, their entitlements are just more subtle. It
will take generations to change it.

What is really disheartening is it has become acceptable to us as a 
society...not only are we addicted but our Government is the enabler.
It will take more than 12 steps to correct this situation; except Big
Brother wants you and he won't stop until everyone is addicted.

Reminds me of old Trainman I worked with, Cliff Davis, he retired and
moved to Flagstaff, AZ and died a month later...anyway Cliff was
convinced the Government was controlling the citizen's minds through
chemicals in deodorant and fluoride in the toothpaste...he may have
been closer to the truth than he knew, just had the wrong drug of
choice!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 November 2009

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 November 2009

Hey Other:

"Furthermore were does your sense of entitlement come from? What are
you owed?"

Let me see..."The Great Society" perhaps you're old enough to
remember? Welfare, food stamps, public housing, Social Security, WIC,
aid to dependent children, unemployment insurance and the list goes on
and on.

Although most of these programs existed before 1964, they were all
greatly expanded after Johnson's reforms and the advent of the
"Great
Society". 

Everyone over the age of 45, two maybe three generations, is a child
of
the "Great Society", that's a huge percentage of the U.S.
population.
Money talks and bullshit walks, so as long as there are politicians
there will be entitlement programs. They may ebb and flow depending on
which party is in power but like taxes entitlements are here to stay!

**********************************************************************

Oh you are so correct with the above statement, and to that we are a
demon of our own creation, and only getting worse in today’s society of
me first and something for nothing.  No one has a good work ethic
anymore and this was created by all of us who tried to provide for our
families better than was provided for us! 

With all the programs that you mentioned above you as well as every one
else are entitled to but, with that being said in the private work force
what are you entitled to? Like I said before a paycheck?  That’s it! 

I have had a pretty fortunate life provided by myself doing what is
expected of me by myself and my family. This has been passed on to my
children as well to create a sense of ownership in there future knowing
that no one else is going to do it for you, so don’t expect it.  Sadly
this is not the case in today’s times everyone from GM to my neibores 
are looking for handouts.  This has taken all of the accountability and
responsibility out of the decisions we make making it easier to blame
someone else when we fail. I sorry I don’t by it. All this attitude
does is allow some one else to pay for your mistakes. 

This also confirms my last post but because I speak of accountability
and responsibility I could not possibly be right, it’s always some one
else fault that you did something wrong or the decisions you made
didn’t work the way you planned… Its time people stand up and are
accounted for… and stop crying about it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 November 2009

Hey Other:

"Furthermore were does your sense of entitlement come from? What are
you owed?"

Let me see..."The Great Society" perhaps you're old enough to
remember? Welfare, food stamps, public housing, Social Security, WIC,
aid to dependent children, unemployment insurance and the list goes on
and on.

Although most of these programs existed before 1964, they were all
greatly expanded after Johnson's reforms and the advent of the "Great
Society". 

Everyone over the age of 45, two maybe three generations, is a child of
the "Great Society", that's a huge percentage of the U.S. population.
Money talks and bullshit walks, so as long as there are politicians
there will be entitlement programs. They may ebb and flow depending on
which party is in power but like taxes entitlements are here to stay!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 November 2009

Are you all really this pathetic? If you hate CSX this much really make
a statement and quit.  No; that’s what I thought just a bunch of
cowards bitching about a company that you work for, imagine that. 

I might not be seeing the whole picture here but I know enough about
unionized work forces to know that you have it very well if you still
have a paycheck in this economy were layoffs and furloughs are the norm
these days.  

Furthermore were does your sense of entitlement come from? What are you
owed?  I don’t work in your industry but a very similar field, were
safety and on the job awareness is of the utmost importance, and if not
respected in can have life ending consequences so safety is first and
foremost your responsibility!  With that being said back to my original
questions what are you entitled to? What are you owed? Let me tell you
so you don’t hurt yourselves thinking about it…..It’s a paycheck, its
that simple, if your work your entitled to get paid, that it. 

If your looking for someone to blame, I have an idea, blame yourselves.
If you read this and listen this is true.  When was the last union
meeting you were at?  Do you even know were the meetings are, on what
day and when?  This is how you are to blame, no participation in your
own labor organization and there for your local officers are elected on
a good ol’boys club way of doing things, they are in it for themselves
and only themselves, but you put them in there.  Do you understand how
your General Chairman & Vice General Chairman are elected?  Here’s a
hint by the people who are in the local positions that you elected. Now
these people who are looking out for #1 and that isn’t you have free
rein to put in people just like themselves in the next level the labor
organizations to which you pays dues, oh I almost forgot offices are
probably right next to the companies main offices, correct?  I wonder
why that is, let me tell you because they can! Because you allow it! 
Because of your lack of interest in your own local, were you pay dues
to, were you don’t care what goes on at……..

So back to what started this rant, just resign I am sure that will fix
all of your problems at least with CSX it will. 

No you won’t do that though; why; because they aren’t handing out
60-70K or more a year jobs every day, that’s why! So bitch all you want
to because most of you are just hypocrites coming on here to bitch at
how bad you have it working for this company that gives you a paycheck
so you can provide for yourself and your family.  

That’s right I’m wrong, here’s an idea, if it’s that bad were you are 
get up go look yourself in the mirror and blame him, then get involved
locally and do something about it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 28 November 2009

when are we gonna  stop  fighting  each other?   and start   going 
after  the railroads?  do  you know  you can sue  your officals in
court  for ?  or  make  their personal lives miserable? hey?   they
wanna fuck with your job and your  family ?  lets start fucking with
them?  do it in a way no one will ever know? catch them in any act? go
after them in your off time? dont stalk them  but? well you get the
idea ? you guys that are  apes better wake up? officials are not your
buddies

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 November 2009

CSX Who?
Buffett, Railroads, and the Lessons of History
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2009/11/19/buffett-railroads-and-the-lessons-of-history.aspx


Alice Schroeder, Special to The Motley Fool
November 19, 2009


Guest columnist Alice Schroeder is author of The Snowball: Warren
Buffett and the Business of Life. Schroeder is a noted insurance
industry analyst and writer who was a managing director at Morgan
Stanley.

Berkshire Hathaway's (NYSE: BRK-A) (NYSE: BRK-B) deal to buy
Burlington Northern Santa Fe (NYSE: BNI) isn't the first time Buffett
has invested in one of his lifelong interests. His first childhood
business was selling chewing gum, and he put money into Wrigley last
year. His second was selling Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO), and Berkshire
Hathaway owns 200 million shares of that company today. Buffett's
relationship with the bank Goldman Sachs (NYSE: GS), another
investment, began when his father took him to meet the firm's chairman
on a 10th birthday trip to New York City.

Does Buffett actually invest out of nostalgia? 
Certainly, he's a sentimental guy who's fond of the tokens of his
past. He's also frequently discussed the importance of a rational
temperament in investing. What, then, is the logic behind his choice to
so often invest in businesses that predate his own father and even his
grandfather?

Let's take railroads as an example. When Buffett was a little boy, he
had only a small, single-oval train set and used to "drool" every
year over the huge, multi-engine railroad diorama that the Brandeis
Department Store set up in the toy department every Christmas. One of
the fondest memories of his childhood was being taken to Chicago on a
train by his grandfather to see a Cubs game.

Buffett's hometown of Omaha was dominated by the railroad business;
trains became inescapably paired with finance in his mind at an early
age. Buffett, as a boy, read biographies of early tycoons like
Cornelius Vanderbilt, James Fisk, and Jay Gould, men who fought
ferociously to control the Erie Railroad's stock.

Another financier who interested Buffett, Jay Cooke, pioneered modern
investment banking and financed the Civil War debt of the Union
government. Cooke was bankrupted by his obsession to build the Northern
Pacific Railway. Buffett also became fascinated by the battle between
E.H. Harriman and J.P. Morgan to corner Northern Pacific's stock,
which caused the market panic of 1901 and is considered the greatest
short-seller squeeze in history.

A lifelong student 
Studying stories like this is one way Buffett has spent a lifetime
scraping with his mental lint brush to pick up every tiny fleck of
knowledge about any industry that attracts him. These are invariably
the basic products and services that many people would find boring, yet
to Buffett they are not numbers on a page, but exciting stories out of
history peopled by lively characters who are engaged in battles of will
and struggles to prevail against powerful economic forces through cycles
of innovation, capital creation, and destruction.

This kind of learning is one means through which Buffett worked out the
larger lessons of the railroad business, which began as a thrilling new
technology that connected disparate parts of the world, evolved into a
network of profitable monopolies, then fell out of favor as cheap oil
and regulators put a lid on pricing power.

When Buffett considered investing in electric and water utilities, the
history of railroads was a point of comparison that helped frame the
decision in his head. When he invested in energy and commodity stocks,
his deep knowledge of railroad economics helped him better understand
energy distribution. All along, Buffett had been studying utilities and
the energy businesses as well, so when he bought an electric utility and
two pipelines for Berkshire, that taught him even more about railroads.

A simple lesson from railroads 
For a long time, Buffett had invested in railroads only when they were
cigar butts. Then they were deregulated, energy costs began to rise,
and railroads became profitable once again. Berkshire first announced
that it owned 10% of Burlington in April 2007.

Buffett has always said that if he likes a company well enough to own
its stock, it means he likes it well enough to buy the whole thing.
Eighteen months after the first announcement, that's just what he did.
It's interesting that even with an 18-month head start, the rest of us
have been scrambling since the announcement to catch up with the many
factors that influenced his decision.

One of the best and simplest lessons that can be learned from Warren
Buffett is to learn things before you need the knowledge. This, after
all, is why Buffett invests so often in the businesses he's had the
most time to study.

Guest contributor Alice Schroeder's biography of Warren Buffett, The
Snowball, was just released in paperback. She is a shareholder of
Berkshire Hathaway. The Motley Fool owns shares of Berkshire Hathaway,
which is a Stock Advisor and an Inside Value recommendation. Coca-Cola
is an Inside Value and an Income Investor recommendation. The Fool has
a disclosure policy.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 November 2009

This appeared on the UTU web site this morning (11/25), it's enough to
piss me off. As usual the UTU is a day late and dollar short, I guess
the LC in Albany sent this in.

       http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=49852

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 November 2009

Don't be suprised if the stock goes up a dollar or two after this!


CSX Corporation Chief Executive Officer to Participate in Wolfe
Research Transport Regulatory Conference Panel 


JACKSONVILLE, Fla., Nov. 24 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Michael Ward, CSX
Corporation (NYSE: CSX) chairman, president and chief executive officer,
will participate in the Wolfe Research Transport Regulatory,
Infrastructure and Labor Conference on Wednesday, December 2, 2009, in
Washington, D.C.

The panel will discuss their view of the key regulatory, labor and
infrastructure issues confronting the railroads. 


About CSX

CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is one of the nation's
leading transportation companies, providing rail, intermodal and
rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network
spans approximately 21,000 miles, with service to 23 eastern states and
the District of Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river and
lake ports. More information about CSX Corporation and its subsidiaries
is available at the company's web site, www.csx.com.

SOURCE CSX Corporation
David Baggs,

Name: Islam Sucks
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 November 2009

Tell 'em what you think!

This is interesting:
http://www.jobvent.com/csx-job-reviews-C1506 

Also look up CSX at Glassdoor.com.

It is worth noting that the only people who have anything generally
positive to say don't seem to come from transportation and probably do
not have to contend with the irregular schedule that the rest of us do.
They seem to come from the likes of auditors, IT & software engineers,
and non-ops managers who work M-F with weekends off and generous
salaries. I wonder if they have to deal with management by intimidation
and screaming? Or have to fight with payroll or crew management to get
paid on a semi-regular basis while being put on hold in call-queue
hell? I would wager that these folks aren't constantly E-tested and
threatened with investigation for doing their job right like the rest
of us. 

Too bad they did not get more input from more conductors, engineers,
yardmasters, clerks, train dispatchers, M of W, Signals, Car Knockers,
B&B, or even managers (the ones with common sense) in transportation.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 November 2009

FRA denies one-person crew ban 
WASHINGTON – The Federal Railroad Administration has denied a joint
UTU/BLET petition for an emergency order prohibiting the use of
one-person crews in conventional and remote control yard switching
operations.

In denying the joint UTU/BLET petition, the FRA, while acknowledging
the high-priority safety concerns raised, said it had "no factual
evidence to support the prohibition against one-person crew operations
at this time. Switchmen, trainmen, and RCOs routinely perform tasks
alone, even when on a two-person or three-person crew," said the FRA.

Although the UTU has collective bargaining agreements in force with
most railroads requiring at least one conductor on each train start,
there currently are no federal safety regulations prohibiting use of
one-person crews in yard or road operations. 

Said the agency in denying the joint UTU-BLET petition, which was filed
in early June:

"FRA does recognize that, since these particular one-person operations
are new, we have no prior data with which to compare conventional
operations and have little prior experience with these operations.
Accordingly, we intend to monitor these operations very closely. While
there may be operations where a one-person crew can function safely,
there may be other operations that are unsuitable for such operations.

"As technology advances, FRA is also aware that the transfer of
certain additional tasks and responsibilities to a single individual
may result in ‘information overload’ and/or diminished ‘situational
awareness.’ We believe these conditions should be considered when
changing work assignments or adding new technology. In this vein, FRA
recommends that safety impact studies be conducted prior to
implementing such changes.

"FRA understands that fatigue may play a role in human-factor caused
accidents. As the duty tour unfolds, employees tire and may become less
coherent. As a consequence, FRA has encouraged the development of
fatigue mitigation programs.”

The FRA also said that the conductor certification requirement, part of
the Rail Safety Improvement Act of 2008, “when implemented, will provide
additional support for the training and qualification of [remote control
operators.]”

Concluded the FRA, “Because of the advances in technology, we are
seeing significant changes in operations – many that never existed
before. FRA will continue to look very closely at these changes when we
occur.”

UTU International President Mike Futhey said the fight against
one-person crews “will remain the UTU's top priority – before the FRA
and before Congress. We know, and the BLET agrees, having stated
jointly with us in the petition for the emergency order, that no
conditions exist where one-person operations are safe.”

Click here to read the FRA letter denying the joint UTU/BLET petition
for an emergency order banning one-person crews.

Name: Avon Welcome Wagon Committee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 November 2009

Name: 
Avon Welcome Wagon Committee wishes to Thank the Train Master for the
recent posting.      Jason Harris's Bio is circulating Avon and the
best thing he can do is sit on his FAT ASS and Keep His Cock Sucker
Shut.  Any Squealing he does will be when his Bosses tell him to squeal
like a PIG in there office. Welcome to Avon !!!!!! 

Avon Welcome Wagon Greeter.




E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 November 2009

THE LOWDOWN ON THE DETROIT TRAINMASTERS

RECENTLY ALL 5 TRAINMASTERS AT ROUGEMERE YARD IN DEARBORN MI WERE
PLACED ON ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE BY THE NORTHERN REGION MANAGER CINDY
SANBORN. THE 4 WERE ACCUSED OF LETTING CREWS STEAL TIME, COVERING UP
RUN THROUGH SWITCHES, DERAILMENTS AND INJURIES. AMONG THOSE ACCUSED
WAS
JIM HORNER, DETROITS TERMINAL MANAGER WHO IS ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED
OFFICIALS ON THE ENTIRE CSX SYSTEM BY BOTH T&E EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS
OTHER OFFICIALS. LAST FRIDAY THEIR FATE WAS HANDED DOWN BY DIVISION
MANAGER JEFF WHITE. MR. HORNER AS WELL AS TM GORDON WILSON WERE FORCED
TO RETIRE WHILE TM JOE TUCKER WAS DEMOTED AND TM BOB BARNHARD WAS
ALLOWED TO GO BACK TO CRAFT AS CONDUCTOR. THE 5TH  TRAINMASTER JASON
HARRIS WAS GIVEN A GOLDEN TICKET OUT OF THE DIVISION TO AVON INDIANA
WHERE HE HAS WANTED TO GO SINCE ARRIVING AT DETROIT. SO WHY DID THE
OTHER 4 GET FIRED AND NOT JASON YOU ASK, WELL MR HARRIS IS THE ONE WHO
STARTED ALL OF THIS BY SQUEELING LIKE THE FAT PIG HE IS TO THE
REGIONAL
MANAGER ABOUT THE WRONG DOINGS IN DETROIT AND ABOUT HOW HE WAS TIRED
OF
HAVING HIS JOB THREATENED. MR HARRIS DID MORE COVERING UP THAN THE
OTHER 4 TRAINMASTERS COMBINED, INCLUDING TAKING CASH FROM A CREW TO
COVER UP A RUN-THROUGH SWITCH AND PERSONALLY COMPLETING TIME TICKETS
FOR CREWS. MR.HARRIS SPENT THE MAJORITY OF HIS TIME IN DETROIT
SHOPPING
ON EBAY AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ESCAPE THE DREADED CHICAGO
DIVISION. THEN 2 MONTHS AGO WHILE AT A MANAGERS MEETING IN
PHILADELPHIA
HE DECEIDED TO OPEN HIS FAT MOUTH AND BETTER HIS CAREER BY RUINING THE
CAREERS OF 4 OTHER MEN. THE CSXT MANAGMENT AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WITHIN
THE NORTHERN REGION DID NOTHING TO INVESTIGATE MR HARRIS'S CLAIMS. IF
THEY HAD THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN WHO THE REAL SHITBAG WAS AND SHOVED THE
WHISTLE UP THE FAT WHISTLEBLOWERS ASS. SO IF YOU WORK IN OR OUT OF
AVON
YARD WATCH YOUR ASS. WHETHER YOUR A UNION EMPLOYEE OR AN OFFICIAL, BE
CAREFUL BECAUSE JASON HARRIS WILL STEP ON YOU TO GET TO THE TOP. (OR
EVEN JUST TO GET OUT OF YOUR DIVISION)

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 November 2009

In Detroit Jason "Fat Rat" Trainmaster and Joe Tucker got together
and
ratted out all the crews , They thought they were going tomove up in
the
company. joe is now the trainmaster in Lima, oh. jason is the
trainmaster in Avon, ind. Jimmy horner had to retire, Gordon wilson
had
to retire, Bob Barnhardt had to go back to conductor. Look out for
Jason
in Avon, he is a Big time rat with a small brain , who thinks he is
marter than you...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 November 2009

APE 1-10

I never endorsed loving CSX. I'm just surprised on how many people
hope for this railroad to fail. Even with all the bullcrap it's still
a paycheck every two weeks. I've seen more changes in my years than
95% of those who post on this site. You people are just getting the
crumbs. You haven't a clue of all the things that have been lost in
the past 25 years. All one can do is adapt or quit. The unions won't
do anything. 

Lloyd

Striking is a complicated issue on the railroad. Most important block
the unions have is the Railway Labor Act which prevents us from
striking. An illegal strike could force the unions to pay the railroad
all lose revenue which would put a hurt or even bankrupt the unions.
The unions aren't willing to take that chance in federal court to see
if it was justified or not. If you look at federal courts most judges
were appointed during Raygun, Daddy Bush, and Bush "The Shrub". Those
are lifetime appointments only to be filled by the president when a
judge retires, dies, or is found corrupt. This country finds the
railroads to be a vital part of the economy without the railroads
running it could collapse. One would think that gives us leverage it
doesn't. Even the public will turn against a rail strike. Longest
strike I was ever on lasted 4 days in 1982 Raygun then ordered us back
to work. Every safety strike lasted long enough to set up picket lines
around one hour. It disrupted one shift the railroads already had a
court injunction in place. Then the railroad an unions battled in court
because the railroads were suing over lost revenue. No easy answers or
solutions.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 November 2009

You guys all make great points but we all know our union wont call a
strike because they made a deal with the devil a.k.a CSX.  If our
unions called a strike I'm sure the company would threaten with dirt
they had on our unions.  
I think being in a union is a great thing, if our union reps have a
sack that is.  I love getting my monthly UTU newsletter to, which shows
the big dogs celebrating and all there little ceremonies they have.  I
find it hard to believe they can be happy about how they let this
company shit on guys constantly out here.  
Facts are facts though guys.  Most people out here (not excluding
myself) are a little paranoid about taking action out of fear of being
fired.  Its a damn shame we even feel this way.  Hell what's even
worse is we even have to be talking about it.  
I think we all love our jobs but we really do work for some crooked,
nazi ruling, low down scum of the earth.  When will be the breaking
point though?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 November 2009

Hey Robofuq:

Here's one you'll enjoy. I hired out in mid 2001, subject to pay
progression, just prior to the RCOs introduction. Of course I got
furloughed for 6 months that first year. In mid 2002 I came back to
Mobile, I had been forced to NO. Anyway, I was required to become RCO
qualified which I did. At that time the carrier and the UTU did not
have a RCO agreement.

Shortly after I qualified, the carrier and UTU reached an agreement
which was ratified. Now here's the good part...as part of the
agreement, all conductors went to a 100%. After 15 months I went to a
100%...it gets even better. As part of the agreement, RCO qualified
personnel received job protection in the form of a paid furlough
board.

Later that fall I again got furloughed to the paid board. It was three
months before I was recalled and I spent all except two weeks on that
board...don't think I ever filed for unemployment

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 November 2009

jdoo, as I stated I hired out in 2004 and this summer when Frontier yard
closed was the first time I was ever furloughed.  I have never gotten
any stock, been offered stock at a discount, or had one cent in
matching 401k $.  Can anyone else from my era give me their two cents
on these issues? (that's more than Csx gave me!) Also, contrary to
what the utu claims, there are plenty of conductors hired before June
30, 2004 that still went through entry wage rates.  Among the heaps of
bullshit ADMG told us is that we would be promoted at 100%.  We found
out different on the last day, when Ms. Csx (I don't recall her name)
told us that, no, we would be promoted @ 80%.  Bitterness aside, I
didn't think too much about it until this year, when the utu made a
big deal about entry rates (and lost).  I sent an E-mail to the
president of utu, who forwarded it to the proper department, and
surprise, surprise, 10 months later no reply. Anyone out there hired
between 3/1/04 and 6/30/04 get promoted @ 100%?

Name: retired
E-mail: firzgerald ga
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 November 2009

I was a paying u t u member for 40 years the most part of those years we
had representation by good people but in my last few years I saw the
good u t u sell everything they could. thanks to people like general
chairman JOHN hancock in JAX. .mr hancock even helped our ex local
chairman w e vanhorne get away with stealing several 100 thousand
dollars from the young conductors that paid $5,000.00 for their jobs.
HE REFUSED TO HANDLE THIS AT ALL.JUST CALL HIM AND ASK HIM FOR HE IS
SUPPOSED TO BE A HONEST PERSON ha ha.he surely will not lie.I think
that sooner or latter the conductors will get promoted to engineers and
leave the u t u. the sooner the better for them because the good utu has
nothing else to sell or giveaway or take from the engineers.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 November 2009

Hey Sucks:

All the railroad unions leave a lot to be desired. The last 3
Presidents of the UTU have either done or are serving time. The
President of the BLEt was recently arrested on bribery charges. The UTU
in my experience is the worst of the bunch and by far the coziest with
the carriers.

Although I am a firm believer in being a member of the union whose
contract you work under; if you're that unhappy perhaps you should
consider becoming a member of the BLEt. The grass won't be any greener
but it'll be a different view and besides, in a year or two you'll be
an engineer!

Name: UTU SUCKS
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 November 2009

Well i dont fault the railroad for the way they treat us i fault the UTU
we pay these bastards damn good money evey month to let this fucked up
company run all over our ass if u sit down and think about it WHAT HAS
THE UTU DONE FOR YOU ???? Well i can tell you what they have done for
me . NOT A MOTHER FUCKING THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! john with his hand
on his cock is a worthless thief sit up in jacksonville and lets csx do
what ever they choose to with us this worthless piece of shit contract
we have is the dumbest thing i have ever read i say we all need to get
together and PULL OUT OF THIS UNION !!! What good is a union if you
cant STRIKE!!! for those of you that dont know i will tell not a god
damn thing.... If we all the UTU they will shut the fuck down and we
might get a union that actually will do something for us ... remember
guys we are contract employees the railroad tells us we are empowered
to take something out of service that dont work correctly SO LETS GET
EMPOWERED AND TAKE THE UTU OUT OF SERVICE CAUSE THEY SURE AS FUCK ARENT
WORKING CORRECTLY !!!!!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 November 2009

"I've never seen a bunch of people hoping for CSX to fail. Isn't that
ridiculious seeing most of you would be out of a job if it did?"

Oh, wait. Did I post that artical on the, "I love CSX" message
board?

lol

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 November 2009

CSX, NS, UP ect..all of them went artificially higher on the
Buffett/BNSF news. It didn't take a genious to figure that out. CSX &
NS will go back down to the mid $40's range UP will drop down to the
$60's. You people look at it with to much negativity. In the long run
railroads are still good long term investments. I've never seen anyone
lose money over the long haul. Even BNSF will crash back down to the
previous levels once the Buffett deal goes through right now it's high
to promote the sale for those shareholders on record. I've never seen a
bunch of people hoping for CSX to fail. Isn't that ridiculious seeing
most of you would be out of a job if it did? Which won't happen CSX
even with mediocre management will still thrive.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 November 2009

Oh my, alrady??? lol



CSX shares slip in premarket on downgrade
(AP) – 1 hour ago

HARTFORD, Conn. — Shares of CSX Corp. edged down in premarket trading
Friday as an analyst downgraded the railroad, saying its share price
has moved too high.

Analyst John G. Larkin of Stifel, Nicolaus now rates the Jacksonville,
Fla., company "Hold," down from "Buy."

Relative to Thursday's closing price of $49.14, CSX has "insufficient
upside potential" in the next 12 months to warrant a continuation of
his "Buy" rating, he said.

Shares of CSX increased this month more than the S&P 500 Index average,
largely due to the "vote of confidence" for the industry by Berkshire
Hathaway's announcement that it will purchase the 77.4 percent of
Burlington Northern Santa Fe it does not already own.

Warren Buffett's company has so far lined up an $8 billion loan to
help pay for the $26.3 billion acquisition.

Despite the downgrade, Larkin says CSX management has done a "superior
job" of controlling costs while maximizing yields at a time of steep
volume declines.

CSX shares fell 83 cents to $48.31 in premarket trading.

Name: jdoo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 November 2009

The company still gives 30 shares of stock per year to conductors. A
couple conditions have to be met. (one) You have to be working sept.
1st. (two) You have to already worked enough days to qualify for
vacation for the next year. I think 240 days by the end of October.  
It hard to do for a young conductor getting furloughed all the time.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 November 2009

NoMo

I'm not sure if CSX still offers employee stock options. I know back
in the '70s & '80s it was a good deal. I had Chessie System stock
then it went CSX back in the '80s it split several times. I wish I
still had that stock during a divorce I sold it all more than 900
shares so the ex-wife #2 (less than 2 years) couldn't get half of it
even though she most likely didn't know anything about it. Took the
money and had a great time taking vacations and partying. No telling
what it would of been worth today. I know for engineers CSX
contributions 25 cents on the dollar to our 401K go directly to CSX
stock.

Name: Tony Ingram Is Worthless
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 November 2009

CSX Corp. lost a long-term deal with an intermodal marketer that instead
will bring a large amount of its business to the railroad company’s East
Coast competitor.

Norfolk Southern signed a deal with J.B. Hunt Transport Services to
handle their goods, according to the Journal of Commerce. J.B. Hunt,
which has shifted the main part of its business from trucking to
intermodal operations, already has a long-term contract with Burlington
Northern Santa Fe Railway in the West.

“This new agreement will provide unparalleled intermodal service and
value for U.S. shippers,” said Kirk Thompson, chief executive officer
of Hunt, according to Transport Topic Online.

Clarence Gooden, CSX’s chief sales and marketing officer, told analysts
last month that the company feels “pretty good” about its intermodal
strategy. He said that CSX, which has prepared most of its system for
double-stacked trains, will get its fair share of the nation’s
container shipments.

Copyright 2009 bizjournals.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 November 2009

your railroad is awful and i hope the stock holders rebel

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 November 2009

Hey Robofuq:

If CSX quit sponsoring those programs, bad for them. They're short
sighted, employee ownership is key to growth and future prosperity.
Besides, it costs them virtually nothing but a little administrative
expense. 

If anything it costs the management in that there are fewer shares to
grant them.

Anyone who has rental property will tell you how rare it is to find a
tenant that will look after someone else property. Most security
deposits don't begin to cover the cost of repairs after 95% of the
tenants move out. There are however homeowners that don't take care of
their property, but they are rare.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 November 2009

Hey Loco 30+:

I've been gone now almost 4 years and my memory has faded. I seem
to recall getting 30 shares a year, purchasing stock at a modest
discount through the Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) and having
CSX match my contributions in my 401K up to 7.5%. It was all done
through payroll withholding...easy and I never missed it.

With slight variations most of that would be standard for most
companies.

When I hired out in 2001 I received a folder with all the CSX sponsored
plans available to me. I took a while to read through it all but I did.

It's up to the employee to read the material and decide for themselves
which plan to take advantage of...most know about the new auto purchase
program and the cell packages offered through CSX.

I would suggest they dig out these folders and reread them; or call
employee benefits and ask for one if they never got one.

Maybe I'm thinking about some body else...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 November 2009

robofuq

You are correct. Someone had to hire on before 1994 to be qualified to
collect the stock, productivity payments, short crew allowance, or in
lieu of productivity a retirement account of $6500 a year. It was for
selling out the last brakemen.

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 November 2009

NoMo, I've been around since 2004 and I've never gotten a single share
of stock, or shares offered for sale for a discount, or one cent
matching contribution towards my 401k.  They don't do that for the
grunts anymore.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 November 2009

It was just stock options. They'll get more begining of next year. Did
anyone bother to look at the purchase price? Oscar Munez bought 70,000
shares of CSX stock last week at $13.26 a share and sold them at $48+
the same day. A common practice this isn't the first time this has
happened. It isn't a sign of anything. I sold shares last week at
$48.06 nothing compared to these people. My original CSX investment
money was placed in a 5% money market for the time being which will be
reinvested later. I'm still holding on to a little over 1200 CSX
shares. Which is all profit. CSX wasn't a bad investment seeing this
was done in just 8 months. It's all about timing. Buffett has nothing
to do with it. Buffett sold his investments in UP & NS he still said
there good investments he just didn't want a scenario of a possible
conflict of interest with his purchase of BNSF. Like Buffett stated
railroads will be around for the next 100 years.

Name: Train Dispatcher
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 November 2009

Sorry.... Don't come around here to often and didn't see the previous
posts below.

Name: Train Dispatcher
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 November 2009

Is it time to get back out?

Michael Ward just cashed in 5 million dollars worth of CSX stock.

Chairman, President & CEO of CSX Corp. (CSX) Michael J Ward sells
100,000 shares of CSX on 11/17/2009 at an average price of $49.75 a
share. 

http://www.gurufocus.com/news.php?id=76625

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 November 2009

Hey Lloyd:

The price of the stock was at the Analysts predicted high, based on
guidance from CSX Senior Management. Throw in a couple of weeks of good
or better than expected quarterly earnings reports from a wide spectrum
of the Street to help, and presto.

Coincidence no; greed, acumen, good PR and willing cohorts (or co
conspirators)in the Analysts and everyone makes money...except the
people that do the work.

I guess CSX still gives you 30 shares a year and you can still purchase
additional shares at a small discount. A slight difference in scale in
comparison to management.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 November 2009

Kind of ironic all those shares of stock were sold so close to one
another.  Coincidence...I think not.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 November 2009

Why wouldn't Ward or any body else sell? It's an easy (in Ward's
case) $2,993,000 net gain and he still has the same number of shares.

It's all part of the executive compensation package the BoD gives them
for meeting the financial goals they set (not necessarily all the goals
but some goals...kind of like a Chinese menu, a few from column A, one
from column B and one from column C)

You might also notice the Analysts had the stock pegged at $50-$51 a
share. Now that the stock has hit their value limit it should sell off.
Management would hate to miss the boat and get caught heavy.

All that education has paid off!

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 November 2009

Mike Ward was forced to sell his shares of stock because of his divorce
to an x clerk.  She now lives in a plush home on the St Johns River...I
wish I had the problem of having to sell over 200,000 shares of
CSX....Hell 200,00 of anything...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 November 2009

Why stick around after being snubbed by Buffett? The big dream must be
over :(

Chairman, President & CEO of CSX Corp. (CSX) Michael J Ward sells
100,000 shares of CSX on 11/17/2009 at an average price of $49.75 a
share. 

http://www.gurufocus.com/news.php?id=76625

CSX Corporation's unique combination of rail, container-shipping,
intermodal and logistics services provides global reach that's second
to none. The company's goal, advanced at each of its business units,
is to provide efficient, competitive transportation and related
services for customers. Csx Corp. has a market cap of $19.62 billion;
its shares were traded at around $50.02 with a P/E ratio of 16.7 and
P/S ratio of 1.7. The dividend yield of Csx Corp. stocks is 1.8%. Csx
Corp. had an annual average earning growth of 12.8% over the past 10
years.

CSX is in the portfolios of Andreas Halvorsen of Viking Global
Investors LP, Bill Gates of Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Trust,
Chuck Akre of Akre Capital Management, LLC, Kenneth Fisher of Fisher
Asset Management, LLC, George Soros of Soros Fund Management LLC, David
Dreman of Dreman Value Management, Jean-Marie Eveillard of Arnhold & S.
Bleichroeder Advisers, LLC. 


Insiders' Positions with CSX


Sell:: Chairman, President & CEO Michael J Ward sold 200,000 shares of
CSX stock on 11/06/2009 at the average price of 47.5, the price of the
stock has increased by 5.31% since



Insiders' Positions with CSX


Sell:: Executive VP & CFO Oscar Munoz sold 75,000 shares of CSX stock
on 11/13/2009 at the average price of 49.02, the price of the stock has
increased by 2.04% since

Sell:: Executive VP & CFO Oscar Munoz sold 75,000 shares of CSX stock
on 11/06/2009 at the average price of 48.01, the price of the stock has
increased by 4.19% since



Insiders' Positions with CSX


Sell:: Executive VP & COO Tony L Ingram sold 25,000 shares of CSX stock
on 11/13/2009 at the average price of 49, the price of the stock has
increased by 2.08% since

Sell:: Executive VP & COO Tony L Ingram sold 25,000 shares of CSX stock
on 11/06/2009 at the average price of 48, the price of the stock has
increased by 4.21% since

Sell:: EVP and CCO Clarence W Gooden sold 35,000 shares of CSX stock on
10/27/2009 at the average price of 42.51, the price of the stock has
increased by 17.67% since

Sell:: EVP and CCO Clarence W Gooden sold 20,000 shares of CSX stock on
10/21/2009 at the average price of 47, the price of the stock has
increased by 6.43% since

Sell:: EVP and CCO Clarence W Gooden sold 20,000 shares of CSX stock on
10/19/2009 at the average price of 47, the price of the stock has
increased by 6.43% since

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 November 2009

The Florence Division is still one of the worst places to work. It's
now under the warp delusions of "The Wolfe". That man rules like a
Nazi Gestapo Commandant. It was a pain in the arse just to deliver cars
to any yard on the Florence. The true butt of countless jokes. The '90s
were bad but the new millenium is worse. One yard has three remote
operators and four trainmasters on 1st shift. It was one of the busiest
terminals now it's like a ghost town. During the '90s a lot of
railroaders were discriminated against over injuries. Near the end of
the '90s for a short time Pres Clinton's administration got involved
citing the railroads over their illegal tactics for harrassment of
injured workers. Then Bush got elected and everything went back to
business as usual. Today settling claims is still difficult with the
burden of proof on the injured party proving a greater percentage of
fault is the railroads. Best course of action is trying to settle out
of court. Recently two people I know recieved settlements both were
similiar both used the same FELA firm one was awarded a decent
settlement the other didn't. As for discrimination of minorities I
can't say I've witnessed that since the late '70s early '80s. CSX
harrasses everyone equally.

Name: james w. davis
E-mail: jwd_serving@yahoo.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 November 2009

I worked for CSX and I was discriminated against by CSX and had by
trainmen rights stolen, was forced to work in other states when they
had openings in Georgia. The UTU sold out the trainmen and if you where
injured on the job in the nineties the railroad CSX owned the courts and
the lawyers and you where forced to resign before they settled with
you.
      There are a great number of injured employees who where denied
hospitalization and other benefits and I have the proof in Black and
White hard copies. Records that the company, does not want the public
to see. CSX has built its fortunes on the backs of its employees and
they have used the courts, congress and the media to line their
pockets.
        Its a fact that minorities where treated more harshly and where
given few opportunities. There where a number of road foremen who
engaged in conduct not good for hourly employees. If the company wante
you fired the road foremen made false evaluations to harm your
reputation.It was a living nightmare to work in Rocky Mount or on the
Florence Division in the ninities.
         CSX has made billions at the exspense of protected trainmens
rights and engineers in Florida, Georgia and S. Carolina. There where a
great number of brakemen who never enjoyed money that the company paid
out in the ninties. They settlled a law suits for a fraction of the
money they owed minoriteis for injuries and for past discrimination.
        I know a nuber of minorities that where fired and run off while
other employees with similair records where retained.CSX claims it has
ethics and equal opprtunity, why are so many former employees angry
about their settlements? CSX is a company, if you get on their wrong
side, they make your life a living hades. I have some stories I will
share give me a call on my email.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 November 2009

csx hater

Quit it's real easy to do. Two options never go back when recalled
from furlough eventually they'll get rid of you. The other option if
you're a man get online print out a resignation form and turn it in to
a trainmaster. No one should work for a corporation they hate. In
regards to oldheads schidt boy we're still working and making money.
This idiotic bullschidt of people hating this railroad is becoming
annoying. No one is putting a gun to anyones head to stay. You either
overcome an adapt or quit. This petty jealousy of oldheads is childish.
When the time is right we'll gladly hand over the reins to the next
generation. Till that happens everyone has to pay their dues. If a
person quits they have our respect. Everyone isn't meant to work this
job. You definitely fall into that catagory.

Name: US Justice Department
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 November 2009

The following article is proof that millions of dollars in FELA
(Railroad employee injury claim) do NOT go to the injured railroad
worker - they go to GREASE THE GREEDY PALMS of the Unions, Railroads,
and lawyers around the country. 

This is just the tip of the iceberg - it is NOT an 'isolated'
incident.... railroad carriers, including CSX,  spend BILLIONS a year
on FELA claims, about 20 TIMES that spent by comparable state workers
compensation (non-railraod FELA type) employee claims. It does not take
a rocket scientist to see this payment imbalance is VASTLY out of whack.


So, WHY IS THERE SUCH AN IMBALANCE OF PAYMENTS? What do FELA claims
cost so much more than identical state claims? For every $100 a state
system pays, FELA pays $2,000.00  For example, over the course of one
year the UP paid out $5 Billion in FELA claims (yes, $1.5 billion!!),
while state compensation programs with the same number of workers with
the same injuries paid out $300 million - by any calculation, that
difference is statistically IMPOSSIBLE - unless there is a MASSIVE
KICKBACK PROGRAM in place and running smoothly wtihout interuption.
Where does all that FELA money go - billions of dollars of overpayments
between the four big railroad - UP, NS, BNSF, and CSX?????  

It sure doesn't go to the injured railroad workers. 

Railroad Managers, Directors and Executives in charge of administering
FELA claims are in the absolute unchecked perfect position to take HUGE
kickbacks from Unions, and from Union appointed FELA attorneys -
everyone gets rich in this game....Unions get a kickback from FELA
attorneys, FELA attorneys get pumped up settlement awards approved by
railroad execs. Yes, you can bet that CSX FELA claims executive get
kickbacks from both FELA attorneys and Union bosses.  

THIS IS WHY FELA CLAIM PAYMENTS ARE 20 TIMES HIGHER THAT STATE RUN
WORKERS COMPENSATION PROGRAMS, and is why the Railroad 'system' will
NEVER get rid of FELA - it is TOO DAMN LUCRITIVE FOR THE CROOKS TO GIVE
IT UP - at the sole expense of the stockholder AND the injured railroad
worker.  

For decades we have heard about how 'fake' railroad workers' injury
claims have driven up the cost of FELA payments. Now you know its
BULLSHIT!!!!!! The whole damn FELA system needs to be investigated and
the crooks need to be cleaned out!!  

Here's the blurb posted earlier by Bubba.  Trust me, the BLET
president is NOT the only one getting rich off the FELA system - there
are hundreds of others who are getting kickbacks too. If the BLET's
president spills his guts to cut a deal, many more heads will roll -
and you can bet it will include a cadre of union AND railroad
executives as well as a boodle of corrupt lawyers...

If you who are reading this know of similar illegal   FELA kickback
schemes, contact your local U.S. Department of Justice field office. 

****************************************************************   
BLET PRESIDENT ARRESTED ON BRIBE CHARGE ( press release issued by U.S.
Justice Department, Eastern District, St. Louis, Missouri).   

Edward W. Rodzwicz, president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive
Engineers and Trainmen, was arrested on a federal complaint charging
him with bribery, Acting U.S. Attorney Michael W. Reap announced Oct.
13.  Rodzwicz is the sitting president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive
Engineers and Trainmen (BLET), a national labor union with over 55,000
U.S.A. railroad members. It is a division of the International
Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT).  According to  affidavit filed with
criminal complaint, BLET
maintains a list of designated legal counsel (DLC), who are recommended
to their membership to handle injury cases under the Federal Employers
Liability Act (FELA). DESIGNATION AS A DLC GENERATES VERY LUCRITIVE
BUSINESS FOR (UNION) DESIGNATED FELA ATTORNEYS. The national president
of the BLET has final authority over the designation of FELA attorneys.
In February 2009, an internal compliance committee recommended that a
particular DLC attorney for the BLET should lose his designation, due
to alleged violations of DLC Rules of Conduct.  On March 10, 2009,
Rodzwicz approached that attorney in Little Rock, Ark., and solicited a
payment from that attorney in exchange for allowing him to retain his
DLC designation. The DLC attorney contacted the Department of Labor,
Office of Inspector General.  In subsequent meetings at the attorney's
office in St. Louis, and at Harrah's Casino, Las Vegas, Rodzwicz
solicited and agreed to accept a cash payment of $10,000 from the
attorney, plus the promise of an additional cash payment of $10,000
after Rodzwicz allowed him to retain his designation.  Rodzwicz
accepted a cash payment from the attorney on April 28, 2009,
in Las Vegas, and he sent a letter allowing the attorney to retain his
designation on May 1, 2009. He accepted a second cash payment of
$10,000 from the attorney on Sept. 16, 2009, in Kansas City, Mo. 
The complaint was filed in the Eastern District of Missouri last week
and remained suppressed until the arrest of Mr. Rodzwicz this morning
by agents with the Department of Labor, Office of Inspector General, at
his home in Avon, Ohio. Daniel R. Petrole, acting inspector general,
U.S. Department of Labor, stated: "Union members expect that their
officials will do what is right on their behalf. If these allegations
are proven, there has been a serious breach of the union members'
trust. My agency will continue to work with the U.S. Attorney's Office
to investigate this type of crime." 
Rodzwicz, 63, was charged with one violation of 18 U.S.C. section 666,
bribery in connection with a federally funded program; and one
violation of 18 U.S.C. section 1952, interstate travel to carry on
unlawful activity. He made his initial appearance this afternoon in
Cleveland. If convicted, 18 U.S.C. section 666 carries a maximum
penalty of ten years in prison and/or fines up to $250,000; 18 U.S.C.
section 1952 carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and/or
fines up to $250,000. The charges set forth in a complaint are merely
accusations, and the defendant is presumed innocent until and unless
proven guilty. October 14, 2009.
********************************************************************

Name: csx hater
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 November 2009

well here it is monday november the 16th and i still hate csx and all
old heads fuck you all i wanna personally wanna thank you for hanging
on ur old ass around stupid mother fuckers i wanna give yall 3 step
with my foot in ur ass

Name: Oracle of Omaha
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 November 2009

Not a problem, son. Sorry your could not find our jobs site. Well, best
of luck with your career search and thanks for thinking of the BNSF.

Say, maybe you should try the CSX job site.  Their career site is much
simpler to navigate and their qualifications criteria are far more
flexible - your in like flint as long as you are under 25, have zero
experience, HS diploma, military background (especially, know how to
take orders without question), dance like a chihuahua on command, work
like a dog, are related to 'family',  and have no problem leaving
your self respect or sense of achievement behind at the company door. 

If you can match ALL the above criteria, why heck,  you could be the
next CSX CEO. 

P.S.: We LOVE this site.

Name: Deo volente
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 November 2009

I see ole "Rocket" Bob Nichols is back in Avon.What happened to the
big trainmasters job Bob? Get sick of the bullshit? Grow tired of
performing fellatio on your masters? Get tired of doing things that
were against your morals and principals?(if you have any)Did you write
up employees for violating the same rules YOU broke while running your
ass off on the remotes at Avon? Kind of ironic Bob;you showed Avon with
all your hurry hurry that one man could work a remote.Now YOU can't
hold a regular job because the remote have gone to a one man
assignment.Welcome back you piece of shit;I hope no one talks to you or
is remotely friendly.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 November 2009

The Orifice has spoken...still didn't see any jobs, even after I
registered.

Name: Oracle of Omaha
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 November 2009

BNSF personnal may think twice before hiring someone who cant find their
job site, but here it is just for those diligent sooth sayers looking
for extra work: 
http://www.bnsf.com/careers/jobqualificationsexternal.html

Register and plug in to BNSF jobs, greatest railroad in the world. 

I love my job.  Have a nice day.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 November 2009

Sure the BNSF has jobs...

https://www2.recruitingcenter.net/Clients/BNSF/PublicJobs/Canviewjobs.cfm?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 November 2009

furloughed

CSX didn't give you an attitude you did. Things are screwed up on the
railroad. The harrassment an intimidation is higher than ever before.
It's just a game. When this started I figured it was an attempt to
bust the unions. The unions don't seem to be concerned maybe those in
Cleveland feel their jobs are protected by the Teamsters. It isn't
going to get better till the unions allow a strike against CSX. Which
isn't going to happen. Personally I think Tony Ingram is a sadist with
a short man complex. No one should treat their employees like this it's
something from the turn of the 20th century. Your attitude falls right
in to their plans. Pit craft against craft, employee against employee
creat havoc. Light up another one. Hope it makes you feel better?

Name: Oracle of Omaha
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 November 2009

Profits up 300%. How sweet it is. 

Dont know if I would take that federali loco job, NOMO. 

Seems to me hauling hazardous waste, hazardous cars, and hazardous
loads either involves nuclear waste or military ordinance - or  both.
If you dont fry......you might go kaboooommmmm? 

Give it up and buy stock - read my books on stock picking....it'll
make you RICH. 

Or, come to work for the BNSF. We have jobs.

Name: me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 November 2009

Hey Furloughed.....  You are a looser!!!How many people have you
injured???Remember ....What comes around goes around.....Gonna have to
pay up one day.. BOY...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 November 2009

I sure wish some old heads were running things in
Jacksonville........and here's a brilliant idea.  How about let soon
to be retired old heads.....let's say two years to go, take over HR
recruiting and hiring.  Who better to know how to pick and evaluate
potential railroaders??  Cuz current HR ain't cutting it. See post
below!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 November 2009

For the Engineers that are in the Crane, IN area and have had enough,
I'm guessing this is a daylight gig Mon. - Fri.:

http://jobview.usajobs.gov/GetJob.aspx?JobID=84468448&JobTitle=LOCOMOTIVE+ENGINEER&lid=17664&sort=rv%2c-dtex&cn=&rad_units=miles&brd=3876&pp=50&vw=d&re=134&FedEmp=N&FedPub=Y&caller=advanced.aspx&AVSDM=2009-11-12+00%3a03%3a00

Name: furloughed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 November 2009

do u think i give a shit about them black boxs? hell no i dont !!!! as
for my attitude csx gave it to me fuck csx i dont really give a shit if
i ever do step back on the property again... this place isnt to much
better than working in a cotton mill or a gas station the money is not
that good out here anymore and we work for a bunch of dumb ass people
that dont know shit about nothing im just glad that i can start smoking
me some mary jane now that i am back in tha street im rolling one up
right now u want some engineer 30+ ????????????

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 November 2009

Doesn't this guy work for CSX?

          http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/80813096/

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 November 2009

furloughed

I hope you're sober by now. That was a stupid post. If you ever made a
coupling at 8 mph to piss off an engineer you'ld be fired. You're
forgetting that the locomotives have black box recorders. To wish harm
on anyone makes you one of the stupidest people who has ever posted on
this sight. Your not the first one. Grow up be a man. 

You think oldheads stick around just keep you out of a job. Not so. How
about their not old enough to retire? Or, their working another year or
two till their wives turn retirement age. Maybe it's because of
medical needs for themselves or a family member that prevents them from
retiring. Only a small percentage possibly 2% actually stick around for
no reason beyond retirement age. 

Have a nice furlough. In fact I hope with your attitude you never step
foot on railroad property again. We don't need someone like you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 November 2009

Lloyd

When CSX uses people off the furlough board it can have an effect on
marking up jobs. By using people regularly off the furlough board the
unions can use that info to get people marked back up. It provides
justification for the unions to seek adding more slots wether it's a
freight pool, yard job, or extra board. People are greedy those freight
pools love to get out on their rest. Yard crews love working over on
another assignment for 4 hours at time and a half. This all happens
when no one answers the phone call when CMC is running a roster. Being
on a furlough board is voluntary no one forces anyone. This isn't a
CSX policy it isn't new it happened when I worked for the C&O it's
been going on forever. Gaurenteed extra boards allowed caps to be used.
CSX doesn't want to pay guarentee so there kept low. There are ratios
that need to be adherred to that was part of the agreements with the
union. The unions waved their rights over the number of people placed
on gaurenteed extra boards CSX has complete control. Do away with
gaureteed boards then it can be loaded up back to the days of "feast
or famine". I came from those days while still being marked up we had
to collect unemployment when we didn't make a 10 day half. No easy
answers.

Name: furloughed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 November 2009

well 30+ engineer its dumb fucks like your ass that want retire and i
tell you i really enjoy working with the smart ass old head engineers i
have a blast doing so cause there's nothing they can do to piss me off
but ol'boy i can do alot to piss your kind off if i worked with you at
some point in the day you would be finding yourself getting up off the
floor from me coupling you up about 8mph or better i work with 1 old
head thats a smart ass like you and he worked with me one night and got
up screaming and shit but it only happen 1 time that old fucker thought
the devil jumped on his back when i got on his ass FUCK ALL THESE SMART
ASS OLD HEADS THAT THINK THEY KNOW SOMETHING WHO GIVES A FUCK IF YOU
KNOW HOW TO RAILROAD I SURE AS HELL DONT THAT SHIT DONT MEAN NOTHING TO
ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Soon to retire
E-mail: 
Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for N/A
Posted: 13 November 2009

I have spent a lot of time reading these posts!  I am surprised to learn
that many of us at CMC are oblivious to much of what happens to T&E! The
T&E have my upmost respect for the demanding hours and job that they do.
But, working the desk that I work, I must say I understand the
frustration!  Its frustrating for T&E when when some at CMC give you a
hard time, but its also frustrationg for callers as well.  We are
constantly "monitored"  I hate hearing that callers are to blame for
many of the problems that T&E encounter!  Many (not all I know) callers
will help with what they can! But we are with our own limits as to what
we are able to do. Doing someone a "favor" that is just not possible
without getting a caller in hot water (sometimes suspension) is just
not worth it.  

It gets frustrating for us when people "shoot" the boards just to
avoid work! Or marks off sick just because they dont want to catch a
certain train or dont want to work with who they are paired up with! 
After working an area so long you start to know whos who and what they
do.  Our job is to call the trains. when we delay them we have to
answer as to why (to more than one person,) and that gets old quick! 
(Communication is NOT the strong suit of the company, as I am sure many
of you know)  Running the rosters is what we must do to try to get a
crew for the train!  If we dont "look" for people to work what we are
delaying then thats a write-up for us! and after so many of those it
goes to "counseling" and then sometimes an investigation!  So yes
getting a crew for a train is my #1 priority, its my job.  And I am
well aware that it gets aggravating for many to have their phones
ringing all night! (I personally hate calling people that I know are
asleep) I can go on and on here but any employee should understand what
I mean.   

  We are under a union contract just as the T&E are! A contract thats
violated so often I cant keep up!  To get days off the correct way is
sometimes nearly impossible for us as well.  Ive had to miss many
family things due to that.  So please try to remember that the callers
are not there to "screw" anyone! We are not all bad!  Please don't
group us all as 1 in the same! Because I really cant think of anyone
that I call that would say I am mean or disrespectful to anyone that
calls in!  I think most would say that I am helpful and try to get a
resolution to any problems that one may have!  

I cant wait to see the responses I get to this!  I look forward to
reading them!

Caller 
 


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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 November 2009

As an outsider I have read a lot of negative publicity regarding CSX. 
My only question is - how did it happen? How did the Chessie merger
with SCL produce such a bastard child? 

Only thing that clearly stands out in my mind was a disasterous tank
car leak (somewhere in Mississippi) a few years ago that poisoned
and/or killed thousands and CSX go slammed with $500 million dollar
judgement.  Does the current management crisis have anything to do with
that?

Or, is it just plain incompetent managment?  

I see where CSX is looking to fill many positions - including a
Director of Fraud.  How ironic. All they have to look at is their past
CEO John Snow, who stole $50 million from the CSX treasury, used the
money to form hedge fund Cerebus to buy Crysler, then robbed Crysler of
Billions and left it to twist in the wind until Uncle Sam bailed them
out.  Smells like the stench of f-r-a-u-d to me. 

Director of Fraud indeed.  They don't need someone to direct their
fraud - they seem to be doing fine without one. 

Maybe the solution is to break it (CSX) apart again, and sell off the
pieces.  Certainly could not be worse than it is now.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 November 2009

A good man retired yesterday after over 30 years of service.  His final
words....Penn Central saw some tough times, yet those were good days
for railroading....Conrail saw some tough times, yet I have no
complaints for the way they compensated me over the years.....As for
CSX, they can stick this railroad straight up there ASS!

He was a class act!

Name: Former CSX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 November 2009

CSX and the union both have their problems. If you are sick of paying
your union dues....look into the Beck Law. At least CSX pays you. you
union takes you money with no payback. Heck you cant even vote on
stuff. I thought you were supposed to be tight.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 November 2009

Wow, so 5 people deserve close to..or a little more than 26 million
dollars while guys are laid off?  Makes a lot of sense.  We have some
real smart people running this organization.

Robo and RRJ, I'm not one to cast the first stone at a man working off
the furlough board.  Every man has a choice.  You guys look at it one
way but I look at it another.  If you want to set there and say it
doesnt help the company when you work off the furlough board thats
ignorant.  If you can get 3 or more starts off the furlough board..do
it...but you aren't helping anyone but yourself and thats only short
lived.  I don't know what is so hard to figure out about this concept.
 Maybe CSX wont add turns regardless, but do you actually believe
working off the furlough board will get you called back any sooner? 
And as far as the health insurance goes, I've seen policies out there
that aren't much higher then the ones we have that are given under
circumstances when people are laid off.

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 November 2009

I was furloughed this year, first time since I hired out in 2004. 
Working off furlough got me a month and a half of paychecks.  I don't
know if it is a former Conrail agreement, but if they call you off
furlough to work they have to make a spot for you on the XB, at least
until the end of the pay week.  A well respected 40 year man told me
"don't let anyone give you any shit for working. You got a family to
take care of." I got called a fucking scab by one know it all cunt.
Only one of those opinions counted with me. I sure as hell didn't work
to help the carrier. Does it make sense to sit home for 300 a week when
I can make 3X that working?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 November 2009

Hey Lloyd:

An explanation yes...a logical explanation no.

This link is to the CSX 2009 Proxy Statement:

http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/irol/92/92932/annual_reports/2009Proxy.pdf

If you think you were confused before, just read this mind numbing BS.
This is in PDF format...the compensation section starts on pg.
19 and runs through pg. 54 (PDF pages).

Read it...re-read and then read it again and you still won't
understand it, but the BOD and Senior Executives do. The company has to
hit certain targets to trigger certain rewards set by the BOD.

The BOD's reasoning is that in order to be successful, CSX must
attract and maintain highly qualified people; and money talks.
Keep in mind that Ward holds sway over who is picked for the BOD and
The BOD sets Ward's pay. 

Seems there might be a conflict of interest in that arrangement; but
it's basically the same arrangement with virtually all public
companies.

Management is basically telling labor to go to hell, as long as they
get theirs they don't care and yes they all sleep well at night!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 November 2009

Lloyd

Think what you want. If you feel working while furloughed will hamper
marking people back up that's a misconception. Temporary vacancies
have never been justfication to add jobs. Those marked up will continue
to make OT and run up regardless of how many are furloughed. Freight
pools can work everyday doubling the road getting out on their rest it
still isn't going to force CSX to recall anyone. CSX along with most
class 1 railroads have cut back to the minimun required to keep things
moving. By giving out bad advise it appears you and soon to be
furloughed Bam Bam haven't a clue. My advise was good advise if
someone wants to keep their benefits especially someone with a family.
Just because Bam Bam and you disagree doesn't hurt my feelings. 

As for health coverage CSX pays a premium. We also contribute to the
insurance premium every month. It's not hurting them in fact this
current national contract negotiations I look for employee
contributions to escalate greatly beyond $200 a month.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 November 2009

RRJ I know that's you and you are out of line telling men to work off
the furlough board. Regardless of what you might think, working off the
furlough board only prolongs people being on it.  Why would they call
anyone back or add spots if they can get random people to do the work
without paying any kind of guarantee?  Think about it for a second.
It's a selfish move and by the time the union dues and whatever else
is taken out of the check the person has hardly any cash for their trip
anyway.  Stupid move, plain and simple.

As far as you going to the doctor over and over, you aren't affecting
CSX.  I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think that the company
negotiates a certain amount of money they pay for health care and the
insurance takes on the rest.  That doesn't include what comes out of
your paycheck once a month either.  Basically I think CSX pays a
certain amount no matter how many claims people file.  

On another subject since I've got some time, can anyone give me a
logical explanation on why a CEO gets paid over a million dollars while
thousands of employees are furloughed right now?  Nomo, I know you are
good at getting statistics so if you can find out how much Ward,
Ingram, Brown, or any other high member of CSX made this year I'd love
for you to post the information.  I know its only November but I'm sure
we could get a good estimate from somewhere but I couldnt find it.  It
just blows me away that these pieces of shit get paid this much while
people are out of work.  How in the hell is this allowed?  Do these
people sleep okay at night?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 November 2009

Hey Bam Bam:

Loco 30+ is right...someone will accept the call or even worse, someone
who isn't furloughed will get called to double over or come in on their
off day.

You decide who is getting hurt more, CSX or you and your family!
You can sit home until the Hell freezes over but it won't get you back
any sooner...so make the best out of a bad situation.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 November 2009

Like I stated newbies that think the world owes them. That's being a
fool. Quit that's the answer if you don't like it. If you're not man
enough to do that all you want is sympathy. You think none of us ever
went through furloughs it's all about you. It took years to build up
seniority to breath a little easier come winter time even then you
weren't sure. I could give a crap if someone doesn't want to take
advise. I was only trying to help. CSX will run fine without you.
Someone will except that call. If someone don't have the intelligence
to do the right thing for their family then their a failure as a man.
This get even attitude shows child like behavior. Now shove it where
the sun don't shine.

Name: Bam Bam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 November 2009

Yeah that's a great fucking idea... Work off the furlough board!?!? Are
you stupid? Wanna talk about helping out daddy Csx. I would love to have
you working for me I'd just call when I needed you and you would be
there with bells on huh? Fuckin throttle jockey.
      Hey furloughed I know it sucks. I'm about to be in the same boat
in about a week I would say. But please don't listen to the jackass
refuse work everytime they call. Tell them if they need you that bad to
add a spot for you. Man up,tough it out,and make money on the side but
don't be a puss and fuck those younger than you by working,cause if
the have you working there is no reason to call anyone back.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 November 2009

I hoped you had enough good sense to save money for these times of
furlough. My first year of working I didn't save up it was a rough
winter. It didn't take long to wise up the furloughs that I knew were
going to happen became an extended vacation. You shouldn't act so
childish about something you probably knew was going to happen. I agree
with NoMo you aren't hurting CSX. As for not taking any calls while
being furloughed you're hurting your family. Getting days in keeps
your benefits active longer. Plus the extra money doesn't reduce
anything from unemployment except for the days you worked. Example: if
you worked two round trips a half or four yard days that's approx
$800. Your unemployment claim would still pay you 6 days at $64 that's
$384. Combined it's $1184 that sure in the heck beats $640. If you
double the road or yard on the same day it only counts as one lost day
of unemployment. Newbies what are you going to do with them?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 November 2009

Hey Again:

The only thing you're going to blow up is your budget, co-pays and
deductibles will eat you alive...$25 here and there will make for a
long winter!

Besides, it won't cost CSX anything...it'll cost the insurance
carrier and ultimately you in the form of higher premiums, deductibles
and co-pays.

Name: furloughed again
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 November 2009

well here i sit furloughed again righ there at christmas time thank you
csx for my yearly present but at least i do have my insurance started
again i will be going to the doctor for any little thing that happens
to me or one of my family members these first 3 months i got furloughed
yesterday and i stomped my toe this morning on the bed post and broke a
nail i got a appointment this morning to go get it checked out i got my
kids going tomorrow to get checked out i am gonna blow up the insurance
bill so csx will have a shit load to pay for me my wife was cooking
breakfast this morning and bacon grease popped on her hand just a
little bit she is going this afternoon to get it checked out i hope
everyone that is furlughed will do the same as i am give it back to
them the same way the give it to us STRAIGHT UP THEIR ASS!!!!! FUCK YOU
CSX DONT CALL ME BITCHS WHEN  NEED SOME ONE THIS WEEKEND TO RUN A TRAIN
CAUSE YOU OUT OF MEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 November 2009

Hey Loco 30+:

Yeah, he can probably use the cash...he has a little something on
lay-a-way; not to mention regulatory issues!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 November 2009

I read this morning Buffett's going to off load his UP & NS stock. Put
all of his marbles into BNSF. Good for him.

Name: Warren Buffett
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 November 2009

Sorry 'CSX Sucks' foamers, but the only piece I invest in is the BNSF.


Speaking of invest, my next move might be to buy the CSX and the NS for
10 cents on the dollar, then whack off the duplicative routes and
eliminate the waste - but would anything be left??.  

As my good buddy Ross Perot was always fond of saying, the next thing
after a buyout that you would hear would be a gigantic  sucking sound.
Ironic. 

Seems to me the only 'advice' given on here (other than mine) is a
lot like that toothless barroom blonde of Nomo's  - pretty much
worthless except for a good case of the clap and an empty wallet. 

However, I  am in a good mood, so here is an investment 'freebee' for
you trolling toothless wonders.... bet on the Boys and Tony Romo to take
the Super Bowl Trophy home this year. 

Well, back to work...

$105 billion, $106 billion, $107 billion, $108 billion....

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 November 2009

To all the Veterans, I want to thank you for your service...


I posted this last year but I think it/s worth another look.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2487638612433437293&q=Vetera#

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 November 2009

Hey Robofuq:

Mobile, AL...I'll have to go to Willard and check them out!

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 November 2009

Dirt floors, smells like piss and the women are all missing teeth?
You're from Willard, NoMo?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 November 2009

Hey Warren:

Why don't you take $20 of your billions and invest in a piece...might
do you good!

Now go finish you homework...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 November 2009

NoMo

I've been to enough dives in my life to last a lifetime. Most women
were scarier than the men. I did find it interesting to watch the cat
fights. Whatever happened to "little girls are sugar and spice and
everything nice". These young women today act more like men. It's
definitely not appealing. All the women my age have attitudes from
hades. It's definitely a different world out here. Dealing with the
civilian population is trying at times everyone is in a hurry to go
nowhere. God help you if you unintentionally get in their way. They
should have classes to debrief someone once they leave the railroad. At
least on the rails you were on your own an obstructon gets in your way
just plow it to the side.

Name: Warren Buffett
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 November 2009

$99 Billion, $100 Billion, $101 Billion....oh, sorry. Was just counting
up today's profits. 

CSX stock is running on BNSF tail winds - once reality catches up, pop
goes the weasel. 

By all means, dont use viagra - invest. 

Toothless women?  Son, you need to raise your sights a little.

Running the trains through small town America is climatic?  

Face it Foam Master & Associates.... You guys are forever married to
CSX.  

Till death do you part - Celebutt to the end.  

$102 Billion, $103 Billion, $104 Billion ......

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 November 2009

Hey Loco 30+:

Dirty old man huh...better living through chemicals. When you were
young, you probably remember the old timers talking about Rooster
shots? Today there is the daily dosing option...thank god for modern
science. The ad Viagra runs where all the 40ish men sit around and sing
"Viva Viagra"...I just don't see that happening in the crew room with
a bunch of old heads. Blurred vision and a 4 hour chubby? See your
Doctor...no way, just move it out from in front of your face and go to
the mall and strut.

20 something...good luck, as long as they don't say anything you might
be alright. Boob job or false teeth? The worst I ever had was
delightful. Bimbos? I love a woman in Stilettos and Fishnets.

Brooks Bros., Martini & Cigar Bars? That's high cotton. Keep that up
and you'll have to upgrade to a Benz. Personally I prefer dives
with no windows, dirt floors, smell like piss, pool tables that have
marks all over them (not chalk)...nothing like shooting a game or two
of strip 8 ball, the women don't have all the teeth, or for that
matter Boobs, open 24/7 and beer is never more than a buck fifty.

Oops...it Monday, my Bar Association meeting night, got to run...it's
5:15 PM in Nuuk, Greenland.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 November 2009

NoMo

The cell phone is one of the first changes not by getting rid of it by
cutting the monthly minutes at least by half. Seeing I won't have to
sever my ties to CSX by resigning I'll take advantage of the
discounts. Women who still have a full set of teeth at my age is a
50/50 shot. On the short term I prefer honing my skills to being a
dirty old man with the 20 somethings. As for owning Berkshire Hathaway
Class A stock it wouldn't be to impressive to only own 1 1/2 shares at
this point. Even though without mentioning how many you own it still
would be impressive if you can find a woman that know's what the heck
you're talking about. Mabey I'll have to put on one of my Brooks
Brothers/Jos A Banks suits head down to one of the martini and cigar
bars where that caliber of women could be found. Bimbos with nice tits
are fun for the night for a relationship I want a woman with brains and
a good portfolio.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 November 2009

Hey Loco 30+:

It'll take a little while for reality to set in...it's hard to give
up something you love...running the main through small town America is
truly romantic...few jobs even come close.

You mentioned that there would be no more calls in the middle of the
night from CMC...no more wasting time in cheap hotels...no more Casper
Milquetoast Trainmaster, those are only a few positives.

First thing I did, after my contract expired, was get rid of my cell
phone...I didn't need it and I don't miss it a bit, I'm not that
important...Now that you are "available" you will become very popular
with all gals that need to be squired around; which is enough reason to
get rid of it. Besides, I think cell phones should be banned from
Thirst Parlors. 

You're right about BNI...if you weren't in when the announcement was
made, it's too late...the offer is in. Even though a group of BNI
shareholders have filed suit against the BNI management for failure to
make full disclosure; their Attorneys are just trying to make a quick
buck and nothing will come of it.

The only play on the BN you can make now is to take a position in
Berkshire Hathaway...if you can afford it...

     http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=BRKA&.yficrumb=F1Xr3mVn2%2FB

     http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=brkb&.yficrumb=F1Xr3mVn2%2FB

A few shares of the Class A and I'll guarantee you'll be popular with
the gals...even the ones with all their teeth!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 November 2009

Warren Buffoon

Like I stated on another post my funds will be freed up in a few
months. When the BLE got us a 401K in 1994 it allowed me to save/invest
money with it's restrictions it suited it's purpose. The investment
choices have always sucked which didn't surprise me because of those
who controlled it. When the bottom fell out starting last year then
losing 70% of my investment CSX at 23.84 a share was a good deal. It
allowed me to recoup faster than anything else in the 401K even though
I'm still at a loss. It put me back in the 6 digit catagory. CSX will
be a slow crawl back up to the $60's range but I do think low $50's
is a possiblity. The stock analyst with there BS just look to have a
quick surge by their predictions then bailout. I'm sure a lot of small
investors look to them for guidance like sheep led to the
slaughterhouse.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 November 2009

NoMo

I hope they were St Alphonso pancakes. Personally I quit stealing the
marjorine now it's butter. 

I went as far as I could with trying to make it back to work. It
didn't happen. I'll have to see how the rest of the world lives. No
more CMC multiple phone calls in the middle of the night. No more
watching my "P's & Q's" in case a TM is hiding in the bushes. No
more vegatating in a hotel room ect.... I'll miss it at least my
co-workers and running trains on the main. There still is nothing like
it.

Name: Reset joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 November 2009

Einy meenie minie moe, JB Hunt's the way to go.

Name: Warren Buffett
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 November 2009

Foam Master

Sell your stock and buy BNSF - mistake of your life if you dont. 

Other RR stock wont be able to piggy back on the BNSF run up - big
mistake to think that. 

I remind myself of when oilman Anschutz bought the DRGW for what was a
big premium over par at the time. 

Everyone thought he was crazy, until 5 years later he sold for over a
billion profit when the ATSF, SP, BN and UP beat each other up to
acquire it. 

Crazy like a fox.

Other Railroad management - especially the CSX and the UP - has trouble
seeing the forest for the trees. They know how to count box cars, stop
watch terminal time, pad freight bills, and harass their employees to
death - but that's it. 

Now Hedge Funders rule the board. Only a matter of time before they gut
the pooty and flee the nest with all the eggs. 

Why go into retirement bankrupt?  Why take the RISK? 

Do yourself a favor and repeat this phrase 1,000 time before bed:
            "I will buy BNSF stock". 

You will feel 1000% better if you do - now and in the future - I
guarantee it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 November 2009

Hey loco 30+:

I had a big stack of Pancakes with melted butter, hot syrup, Strawberry
Preserves and a side of Canadian Bacon this morning...my wife must want
something.

Sorry to hear about your shoulder not improving...I know you wanted to
go out with your boots on!

About CSX stock, or for that matter any public companies stock...use to
be 25 or 30 years ago, the companies management had some control over
the price of the stock, consistent performance, steady growth etc. EPS
and the P/E ratio mattered, the market would follow. Today, the market
sets the price regardless of the fundamentals of the company. The
analysts cite some other meaningless ratios, based on managements
guidance and the public rushes to jump on the band wagon.
The herd mentality at its finest. When things get bad, management buys
back stock...price goes up management and the Street sell and make
money. Every one makes money except the people that bought the stock
that management and the Street sold.

The economy plays a part, but a small part compared to the greed of
Wall Street, management and the naivety of the public.

People equate intelligence with education and education with money,
which is their mistake. I know highly educated people that make dirt
look smart; to people that have no intelligence or education that are
worth millions. The only commonality between Wall Street and Management
is greed.

With regard to the price of CSX stock, I think $45.00/share is tops,
anything above that and it's over bought. In regards to Buffett's
offer on BNSF of a $100.00/share...even though he's paying a 25%
premium to the shareholders; he sees the value of the franchise
substantially above that, maybe $125.00/share.

Sit back...fire one up, pour you a four finger and watch what happens.
It should be an interesting show!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 November 2009

Warren Buffoon

No arguement here that CSX will always be the low man on the totem
pole. It still doesn't mean CSX isn't/wasn't a good investment if a
person bought in at the right time. There will always be a railroad.
CSX proved that even mediocre management can make a profit. Just think
if they had some intelligence gave up their hard line attitudes towards
their employees that productivity would generate more profits. That
isn't going to happen not while Ingram is running transportation.
I've been off work for over 4 months been to every union meeting the
harrassment an intimidation has escalated beyond repair that the only
recourse is for the unions to strike. That isn't going to happen. It
made my difficult decision to seek retirement easier. CSX doesn't
realise they have dedicated people working for them that dedication is
crumbling. You can only push people so far before they start pushing
back. Work by their rules no matter how assinine slow down production
to a crawl. While I was dropping off some paperwork yesterday to the
clerk two customers called about cars not being delivered. CSX seems to
have this attitude they need us instead of CSX needing them.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 November 2009

Conrail might of been a good run railroad. So was the C&O, B&O, and WM
(Chessie System) before the merger with the SCL to form CSX. I also
remember the '70s & '80s when Conrail was total financed with
taxpayers money. Conrail employees had some of the best and most
outragious contracts in the industry. Oldhead trainmen use to work the
head end engine changes generated a 4 hour penalty claim which there
could be 2-3 a shift. I had a few friends that worked for Conrail their
paychecks were ridicules all at the taxpayers expense. In those days
there was no competition between the other class 1's no need to
generate a profit. It was just a typical case of when the goverment
runs a business it drains tax revenues.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 November 2009

The whole argument is stupid.

There is no comparison between the two companies.  BNSF is a fine tuned
machine while CSX runs by the seat of its pants.

The funny part is that Ward & Ingram actually think that they run a
good solid company. Anybody who works for CSX knows how unstable the
company really is.  MANAGEMENT has always been the main problem!

I've also never worked for a company with so much harassment &
intimidation.  

Say what you want about Conrail, they ran a good railroad.

Name: Warren Buffett
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 November 2009

FOAM MASTER:

BNSF stock will out perform CSX stock - has, does and always will. 

Better to have one chicken laying 10 eggs, than five chickens laying 1
egg.   

Conrail's profit - miniscule at best. Add in massive deferred
maintenance costs and there go the xmas bonuses.  

CSX is VERY risky.  One more billion dollar toxic tank car spill and
there go the profits for another 20 years.   

The CSX Board makes inverstors nervous - for two big reasons: inept
management and FRAUD.  

I will take BNSF stock any day of the week. 

Your choioe - swim with the BN, or sink with SUCKS.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 November 2009

Here we go again.
As noted on the last post a conflict of Interest is based on the size
of the Investment. That is incorrect. The size and number of shares has
nothing to do with a conflict of interest. Either he own's a share or
he does not is the strike point!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 November 2009

Warren Buffoon

No, the BNSF sale isn't in the same catagory as Conrail. Even though
Conrail was making a profit at the time of the split. The only two
issues that run together is stock price. The escalation of the BNSF
stock price is a temporary inflation for Buffett to own it. Once the
buzz stops it'll go back down to the $70's range. In the long term
investing scheme BNSF would be a good risk. Buffett will have access
and controll of coal from the Powder River Basin which he own's 14
coal-fired power plants in the midwest. It's a win-win for Buffett.
Then again no one knows anything at this point Buffett could sell off
parts of the railroad. The STB has no control over this deal they only
involve themselves in mergers which this isn't. Berkshire Hathaway
owning 1.8% of UP and .51% of NS isn't troubling anyone because it
doesn't own a controlling interest in either railroad so there isn't
a conflict of interest. It still is amusing that CSX is the only big
class 1 he didn't bother to buy in to. I think that is a reflection on
CSX management. CSX still has the lowest stock price. Which doesn't
bother me. I bought CSX when it was at rock bottom and I'll sell when
the time is right it's all profit. Seeing I'm in the mist of retiring
my 401K funds will be free in a few months to invest as I please. Then
the real money will be made.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 November 2009

NoMo

Last contract round one of the biggest disputes which the UTU took the
UP to court over was opening the 1985 crew consist. The UP wanted to
eliminate road conductors which the UTU won in court because of the
1985 crew consist. Now the UTU wants to open up parts of the crew
consist. That makes sense even though it could very well bite them in
the arse. Once pre-94 conductors retire the protection policy is
eliminated. That's easy to verify on seniority rosters it list
protected and non-protected employees. All the railroads have to do is
wait it out most protected employees will be retired in the next 10
years.

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 November 2009

Quote from an article i read "Berkshire does not control any other
rails. It does own small, non-controlling stakes in Union Pacific Corp.
and Norfolk Southern Corp."

Notice CSX is not in there....this is what happens when you have morons
in management. Good job and kudos to Ward and Ingram ;) Idiots.

Name: Warren Buffett, BNSF
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 November 2009

FOAM MASTER, 

BNSF has always been a financial plum, unlike the labor bloated and
poorly managed Conrail.  Conrail was no BNSF. Not even close.  

I told you to buy BNSF. Your still sittin on your hands, holdin tight
to that wallet, CSX stock, and CSX Sucks. Plenty of time to  make a
killing.     

Thinking of your situation with CSX Sucks, an antedote comes to mind:
'birds of a feather flock together'.  

P.S. 
Section 6 is inaccurate.....should be 'section sex', as in
'screwed'.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 November 2009

Hey Loco 30+:

Yeah you right...a lot of talking points for the UTU to negotiate away,
most of them just eye wash for the membership.

The carriers can moan and groan about the poor economy but the big boys
are still making money and so are all the executives and board
members...hard to argue with all those improved ratios our Dispatching
friend mentioned yesterday.

It's time to fish or cut bait!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 November 2009

It seems the UTU section 6 wants to open parts of the 1985 crew consist
agreement which could be opening Pandora's Box. You can't pick and
chose certian parts of the agreement an expect the rest of it to remain
closed. A lot of the issues seem to resemble the CSX BLET SSA. It's
only a dream sheet. The carriers section 6 looks to drastically make
cuts relying on the economic recession which unfortunately is in their
favor. The UTU if their smart will wait it out and hope for a recovery
in the market which MIGHT happen 2-3 years down the road. Of course by
then it could end up in a stalemate with it going to a PEB. I look for
Repo's to gain seats in Congress next year which wouldn't be positive
for unions. Americans are the fastest paced people in the world. They
want everything now. Obama couldn't fix America's ills in 6 months
the country turned against him. Same thing would have happened to
McCain.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 November 2009

Warren Buffoon

It's a little late to buy BNSF stock. The stock has already escalated
beyond actual value. Those that owned BNSF should be selling it like
hot cakes. A one day increase of over $25 per share was just the same
deal those who owned Conrail stock recieved when it was split between
CSX & NS in 1998. After the buzz both stocks bottomed out to around $18
a share an it took years to recoup because of the massive debt that was
acquired. Conrail stockholders got an offer of $100 a share or a 3 to 1
stock split. Let's see in 1998 3000 shares of Conrail times $100 equals
$300,000 or 9000 shares at $18 worth $162,000. Once the buzz is killed
off stocks will go back down. I wish I had fore sight to capitalize on
the Buffett deal it would of been sweet to make a killing in just a few
days then bail out.

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 November 2009

So did the NS take the JB Hunts away from Ingram and CSX? Anyone seen
the "official" announcement on this yet? 
No Harriman, now his "baby" the JB Hunt runs..when is Ward going to
give up on this loser. Kind of ironic they lost both of them to Ingrams
former employer. He must have a serious sucking skill!

Name: Bershire-Hathaway Stock Holder
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 November 2009

BNSF

Buy Northfork Southern First

Need I say more.

We might have to wait until Obama is out of the House.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 November 2009

Section 6 Notices are out:

  http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=49541


For the UTU:

  http://www.utu.org/worksite/PDFs/utu_section6_1109.pdf

For the Carrier:

  http://www.utu.org/worksite/PDFs/NCCC-section6_1109.pdf

Name: Warren Buffett
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 November 2009

FOAM MASTER,

Web-master, your disguise as loco engineer 30+ fools no one. 

Nice try.     

Not to beat a dead horse, but let me repeat: I am not buying UP or CSX
stock.  ('holding' is not 'buying'....there is a difference).   

The coming UP/CSX merger will be an utter disaster - worse than
NYC/Penn Central. Taxpayers will be footing the bill for that one too -
just like Conrail, only VASTLY more expensive. 

I suggest you sell CSX stock now and buy BNSF stock. Don't be a fool
and wait - you will loose money the longer you wait.   

In the meantime, keep up the 'good' work here on CSX SUCKS. 

We're lovin it. 

Warren Buffett
BNSF

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 November 2009

Buffett also owns a good chunk of NS...the BN doesn't bother the East
Coast yet...give him 12-18 months to digest the BN acquisition and and
he buy the NS.

Looks like all those rumors about a UP CSX merger might just come true,
that is if they're still both in business!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 November 2009

Warren Buffoon

Get your info straight Buffett (Berkshire Hathaway) owns around 5% of
UP stock plus I do believe he's on the board of directors. Now it
becomes a matter of wether it's a conflict of interest. BNSF doesn't
bother the east coast seeing their trackage ends in the midwest most of
their connection deals are with NS. Berkshire Hathaway also owns some NS
stock. One things for certian Buffett (Berkshire Hathaway) hasn't
invested in CSX. Right now I'm waiting till CSX hits the right numbers
hopefully around $51 then it's sell. CSX is still considered a buy
rating. At this point the increase in transport and coal stocks are
flying on the Buffett news. It'll head lower in a few days as the buzz
wears thin and the short term investors sell off with the profits.

Name: Warren Buffett, BNSF
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 November 2009

BNSF is a class act and I will make billions on this investment. 

This is not because the BNSF is going to change in any dramatic way.

It is because the other roads are so poorly managed - CSX being the
absolute worst with the UP a close second - the BNSF will scoop up the
lions share of business during the recovery and beyond. 

The only way your companies will be able to improve their shareholder
value, will be to buy me out for about five times what I paid. 

I will not buy UP or CSX stock because they are run by notoriously
inept managers and completely corrupt unions. That's a fact. I may
vacation in Florida, and live in Omaha, but that does not change
anything.  CSX and the UP stink equally the same.  

Needless to say,  this CSX SUCKS site does not help your CSX stock
price or the potential profitability of your company. With 20,000 CSX
pensioners relying on CSX stock prices, this site is like the goofy
gunslinger who shoots himself in both feet to spite the ugly nose on
his face. 

Not too bright - evidently, you not paid to think long term.    

Now webmaster, before you start foaming, please please keep up the work
here (as I am positively sure you will for another 10 years). 

Your site is hilarious, in a strangely demented way. 

In the meantime, I and my investors will be laughing all the way to the
bank.  

Sincerely, 

Warren Buffett
BNSF

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 November 2009

Huntington division is no different...trainmasters steal time
hear...never leave the house unless Frulla calls out swat team

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 November 2009

Buffett isn't stupid, he bought a railroad that is worth the money.

CSX isn't worth the locomotive toilets that they never empty...lol

This is a slap in the face for CSXT.

Cheap Skate Xpress ....Yesterday's Freight Tomorrow!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 November 2009

Buffett buys BNSF:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33599744/ns/business-us_business/

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 November 2009

It's a damn shame about those in Detroit. I've known Bob Barnhard for
at least 28 years when he was a trainmen and a yardmaster. He was from
Michigan originally taking the TM job was just going back home after
transferring down south in the early '80s. Hopefully he remembered his
earlier roots and treated people with respect at least as much as any
person in management today can get away with without reprocusions.
Hopefully Bob still maintained his seniority on the Northern Region
which should be pretty good at least 30+ years. I hope he sticks it to
CSX when he gets back on the ground. That would be the best revenge.
I've seen that happen with a few TM's that were let go and went back
to their crafts.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 November 2009

THE LOWDOWN ON THE DETROIT TRAINMASTERS

RECENTLY ALL 5 TRAINMASTERS AT ROUGEMERE YARD IN DEARBORN MI WERE
PLACED ON ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE BY THE NORTHERN REGION MANAGER CINDY
SANBORN. THE 4 WERE ACCUSED OF LETTING CREWS STEAL TIME, COVERING UP
RUN THROUGH SWITCHES, DERAILMENTS AND INJURIES. AMONG THOSE ACCUSED WAS
JIM HORNER, DETROITS TERMINAL MANAGER WHO IS ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED
OFFICIALS ON THE ENTIRE CSX SYSTEM BY BOTH T&E EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS
OTHER OFFICIALS. LAST FRIDAY THEIR FATE WAS HANDED DOWN BY DIVISION
MANAGER JEFF WHITE. MR. HORNER AS WELL AS TM GORDON WILSON WERE FORCED
TO RETIRE WHILE TM JOE TUCKER WAS DEMOTED AND TM BOB BARNHARD WAS
ALLOWED TO GO BACK TO CRAFT AS CONDUCTOR. THE 5TH  TRAINMASTER JASON
HARRIS WAS GIVEN A GOLDEN TICKET OUT OF THE DIVISION TO AVON INDIANA
WHERE HE HAS WANTED TO GO SINCE ARRIVING AT DETROIT. SO WHY DID THE
OTHER 4 GET FIRED AND NOT JASON YOU ASK, WELL MR HARRIS IS THE ONE WHO
STARTED ALL OF THIS BY SQUEELING LIKE THE FAT PIG HE IS TO THE REGIONAL
MANAGER ABOUT THE WRONG DOINGS IN DETROIT AND ABOUT HOW HE WAS TIRED OF
HAVING HIS JOB THREATENED. MR HARRIS DID MORE COVERING UP THAN THE
OTHER 4 TRAINMASTERS COMBINED, INCLUDING TAKING CASH FROM A CREW TO
COVER UP A RUN-THROUGH SWITCH AND PERSONALLY COMPLETING TIME TICKETS
FOR CREWS. MR.HARRIS SPENT THE MAJORITY OF HIS TIME IN DETROIT SHOPPING
ON EBAY AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ESCAPE THE DREADED CHICAGO
DIVISION. THEN 2 MONTHS AGO WHILE AT A MANAGERS MEETING IN PHILADELPHIA
HE DECEIDED TO OPEN HIS FAT MOUTH AND BETTER HIS CAREER BY RUINING THE
CAREERS OF 4 OTHER MEN. THE CSXT MANAGMENT AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WITHIN
THE NORTHERN REGION DID NOTHING TO INVESTIGATE MR HARRIS'S CLAIMS. IF
THEY HAD THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN WHO THE REAL SHITBAG WAS AND SHOVED THE
WHISTLE UP THE FAT WHISTLEBLOWERS ASS. SO IF YOU WORK IN OR OUT OF AVON
YARD WATCH YOUR ASS. WHETHER YOUR A UNION EMPLOYEE OR AN OFFICIAL, BE
CAREFUL BECAUSE JASON HARRIS WILL STEP ON YOU TO GET TO THE TOP. (OR
EVEN JUST TO GET OUT OF YOUR DIVISION)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 November 2009

In Detroit Jason "Fat Rat" Trainmaster and Joe Tucker got together and
ratted out all the crews , They thought they were going tomove up in the
company. joe is now the trainmaster in Lima, oh. jason is the
trainmaster in Avon, ind. Jimmy horner had to retire, Gordon wilson had
to retire, Bob Barnhardt had to go back to conductor. Look out for Jason
in Avon, he is a Big time rat with a small brain , who thinks he is
marter than you...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 November 2009

anyone  hear  about csx employees stealing time in detroit, trainmasters
and road forman getting fired also?

Name: rco hater
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 November 2009

you couldnt have said it ant better throttle jockey if there is ever
anything involved with a remote job as far as tearing something up or
KILLING someone the are busting there balls to cover it up where i work
they are putting 1 man remotes on there but guess what they are not
gonna work i swear to u i want switch over 10 cars by myself on a rco
in a shift let the trainmaster and dick head tom wolfe come watch me
work better bring them a chair cause i am going by the rules i am no
way scared of these bitchs that call there selfs trainmasters and i
know if tom wolfe talk to me how he does to the guys who work for him
he would not like the out come of that one that guy has really got a
head problem he must have been beat as a kid

Name: throttlejockey
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 October 2009

Remote controlled engines are flat out the easiest way to remove a man
from a job and save the company money.  It has nothing to do with
providing the UTU with more jobs.  Remote jobs are a way to save the
company money by cutting a man off the job. Remote control jobs are the
most unsafe practice that this company never addresses.  Until everyone
says enough is enough CSX will continue running one man remote
operations.  Our unions are in desperate need of someone with a
backbone.  It is time we all stand up and call bullshit on the RCO
period.  Anyone who does think the RCO is good must have a ton of
seniority and not give two shits about men who are cut off.  Its an
unsafe practice and its time our guys in union do something about it. 
I bet if it was a trainmasters kid or a high up union representatives
child who got mauled by an RCO operation we would see a change.  I
guess its okay if you are just Joe Schmo though. You murdered Jerod
Boelke.  Who is next CSX?

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 October 2009

Hey Russell guy, sounds like you are pretty insecure about your own wife
getting banged while you are away.  It wasnt that Russell and Hinton
guys were in competition, the company made them this way.  Their
contracts benefit them the most and if it hurts men in certain
terminals, well, who gives a shit right?  I wouldnt brag about banging
a guys wife either.  What kind of man does that make you out to be?  Im
not casting the first and only stones either, Im just saying I wouldnt
brag about that if you care about your life after here.  Complaining is
always okay in my book, bragging about sleeping with a man's wife while
is away, not okay.

Name: russell guy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 October 2009

Hey folks,
            I am here to say that Hinton sucks and your managers as
well. They think that we are the bad guys and we have alot more work
this way. I hope they find away to shut down Hinton stopping point as
they have been trying for a long time. I hope they get rid of all the
people from Hinton. The only good thing about staying in them shitty
hotels is knowing I just passed you on the road and your wife is on her
way to  see me!! As a matter of fact she just called while you are out
of town wanting to know if i was on my way. Your safe tonight cause i
am off. Hinton girls are easy!! If you are eating in Hinton your wifes
usally come to us and say aww you most work on the railroad my husband
works for the railroad hes neer home hint hint. Well why dont you come
to DQ and let me eat ya! HA Oh and as far as us taking your shitty jobs
we dont want the shitty jobs! You would be better off letting them shut
Hinton down at least you would be home a little more! It is not just me
there is 4 of your girls sleeping with russell men. And they all tell us
hes prolly doing the samething where ever he is. Rot you stupid scabs
from Hinton!Just keep in mind if we move to Hinton your wife may just
move with us!

Name: TRUTH-NO LIES
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 October 2009

CSX Sux is the correct name for the local Russel, Kentucky roundhouse,
Raceland Yards, and Huntington Repair Shop in Huntington, WV. The bald
headed sucker that does the hiring really looks and acts like he is
straight from Russia. He walks into interviews like he is being
bothered to see you and thinks his shit don't stink. Unless your last
name is one of his sucks your family will never have the opportunity to
be able to work for the railroad. Experience and schooling does not mean
anything with CSX in the Tri-State Area of Ashland, ky / Ironton, Ohio /
and Huntington, Wv. I hope the Russian gets his one day as all people
do. The railroad in our area really sux as they have leaks in tank cars
in the Raceland yard and causes business to shut down and don't bother
to pay the local businees employees or loss of busniess due to their
stupdiness and no concern for human life. The big shot Mr. Russian bald
head run around like he was trying to hide the mess he created. The
local news media did let it get out after people in the local cities of
raceland, worthington, and wurtland was evacuated and local business was
close. SHAME ON CSX for not leaving a man in control of this area of the
railroad who has no concern for the people living in the area near the
railroad. I have lived here for 56 years and it is the worst I have
ever seen it. CSX REALLY DOES SUCK!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 October 2009

According to this man, the grade will be steep for the RR's

              http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33491795

Name: Ninja
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 October 2009

Big Sandy - Blue Ridge Gateway:

No one is ordering coal. Economy is worse than you think.
 - Southern Power Plants that can burn Coal or Nat Gas have switched
over, due to all time low price of Nat Gas.
 - Most coal being delivered now is to fulfill contracts to coal co's
and is not needed. Steam Coal Stock piles are at all time highs
 - Since Econ is depressed, there is less need for electricty, so less
coal.


It will get worse before it gets better...like in 2011, 2012?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 October 2009

Anyone have any idea why the flow of traffic is so slow through the
Erwin TN area on the Hunington. I thank this is the slowest I have ever
seen it.

Name: RAT FINDER
E-mail:  
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 October 2009

It has come to my attention that JASON TANKERSLEY is a RAT ASS BASTARD. 
Jason was supposely being blackmailed by Trainmaster Joel Hudson about a
few misc rule violations and attendance issues.  So Jason decided to
call up Hudson and tell him his conductor was very upset with Hudson. 
So Jason decided to go along with a story of threats again the
Superitendent, I think it was a guy named Scott ??  Supposedly this all
took place on a train in the SN&A North sub and the Super. Scott was in
Virgina already transfered.  Then Jason was suppose to testify against
the conductor at the kangaroo court being held in Birmingham, AL.  Of
coarse this had to force the conductor to resign his position.   

JASON TANKERSLEY IS A RAT IN THE WORST WAY!!!  YOU COST A MAN A LIFE
FOR HIS FAMILY!!!  YOUR WORST THEN THE GUY FUCKING SOMEELSES WIFE!! 
YOU DESTROY CHILDRENS LIVES!!  What comes around you RAT comes around
RAT!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 October 2009

I don't know where to post this...Safety First, Attendance Policy,
Harassment and Discrimination, Denied Claims or Asleep At The Wheel; so
I'll post it here.

This is one of the many advantages of being an x-man...I feel a panic
attach coming on!
 
 
   
Medicinal weed off-limits for transport workers 

WASHINGTON -- People who operate airplanes, locomotives, trucks and
buses would still be in violation of DOT rules against drug use if they
use marijuana for medicinal purposes, despite a reported shift by
federal law enforcement against prosecuting medical use of the drug,
reports the Journal of Commerce.

DOT's Office of Drug and Alcohol Policy and Compliance issued a
clarifying notice Oct. 22, after getting queries about how the new
policy stance by the Department of Justice might affect transportation
workers.

"It remains unacceptable," the notice said, "for any
safety-sensitive employee subject to drug testing under DOT's drug
testing regulations to use marijuana."

Attorney General Eric Holder this week issued new guidelines for U.S.
attorneys, advising them not to pursue people for prosecution who use
marijuana in clear compliance with state laws allowing medical use. 

Afterward, DOT began receiving calls about whether that medical-use
situation could exempt transportation workers, in states where it is
legal. DOT requires that people who test positive for marijuana be
removed from jobs that can affect safety pending a review and
treatment.

"We want to make it perfectly clear that the DOJ guidelines will have
no bearing on the Department of Transportation’s regulated drug testing
program," wrote Jim Swart, director of the Drug and Alcohol Policy
office. "We will not change our regulated drug testing program based
upon these guidelines to federal prosecutors."

His notice said the rules cover "safety-sensitive transportation
employees -- pilots, school bus drivers, truck drivers, train
engineers, subway operators, aircraft maintenance personnel, transit
fire-armed security personnel, ship captains, and pipeline emergency
response personnel, among others."

DOT's drug and alcohol testing regulation, he said, "does not
authorize 'medical marijuana' under a state law to be a valid medical
explanation for a transportation employee's positive drug test
result."

(The preceding article was published by the Journal of Commerce.)
 
October 23, 2009

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 October 2009

Hey Florence Division:

Glad to know you love your Moma. I just hope she doesn't read your
post. I bet she would be real proud of you!

Name: fuck the florence division
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 October 2009

well here we go again its getting christmas time and ol wolfe is ready
to cut our ass off again. I AM BOUT TIRED OF THE BULL SHIT they can all
kiss my ass fuck following the rules i am gonna try everything i can to
get run off i wanna just sit down and shit all over myself and then go
work smelling like shit and give the trainmaster a hug for being so
kind their time is coming very damn soon i hope all thats in management
and upper management WILL LOOSE EVERY DAMN THING THEY HAVE AND HAVE TO
LIVE ON THE STREET I WILL STOP BY AND SEE YALL I WILL SQWAT DOWN AND
SHIT RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU SO YALL WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO EAT YOU
BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





                      P.S I LOVE MY MOMA

Name: Red
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 October 2009

Hey Russell Conductor,
   I woundnt be worried about the restriction of senority of on Russell
I2 jobs at Hinton, I would be worried about why their putting your jobs
on at some place other then your home terminal! Makes a lot of since
for the company to add jobs at terminal 167 miles away from your home.
They are hoping you Russell guys dont take them. That way both Hinton
and Russell crews lose and CSX wins like always.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 October 2009

Hey RRJ

Isn't it about time for your recheck?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 October 2009

Hey Z

Here's one for you...I wonder how many know who the players are?
 
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0L5LD7GZxc

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 October 2009

October 18, 2009 & CSX still SUCKS!


Cheap Skate Xpress

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 October 2009

Anybody know why they are restictin Russell senority on the I2 pooles at
Hinton when the contract clearly says Russell men have first rights to
them.  Labor Relations told me that there is a magic number on the
roster and that number is 2214 so if you younger than than your not
allowed to mark up on them but if your older you can.  What the hell,
does senority even matter who cares if I'm younger thatn that if a
older man wants the job then he will kick me.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 October 2009

RRJ:  I commend you for trying to help Cindy.  Maybe some people do not
want to take the opportunity to take advice from people with
experience....The RRB is the place she needs to call not CSX....The
ex-wife who works for CSX can't do anything to hinder any money that
is owed to her from the RRB

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 October 2009

RRJ;
You had it right the first time. She screwed with you because you were
not giving her the answer's she wanted. She will always lay the blame
somewhere.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 October 2009

Cindy

I'm glad we had an oppertunity to talk a second time. You made me a
little mad the first time. I hope everything works out in your favor.
I'll say a prayer for you.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 October 2009

Cindy

I did some research you might qualify for a widow pension between the
ages of 50-59 if you can prove you are totally disabled. You still need
to contact Railroad Retirement Board not CSX.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 October 2009

I forgot one thing Cindy seeing you hung up before I could mention it.
The Railroad Retirement Board (RRB) not CSX is responsible for our
retirement. CSX has nothing to do with it. Look up RRB under the
goverment section of your phone book to get the answers you seek. Some
people just don't want to listen.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 October 2009

Damn it!!! I tried to help by calling this Cindy Mills with some usefull
info about railroad retirement. She is a rude self serving individual
who won't listen. She's 51 years old supposedly disabled which
doesn't qualify her for anything from Railroad Retirement till she's
of age for the spousal stipend from her husbands retirement. She feels
railroad retirement owes for her disability when she never worked for
the railroad. It doesn't work that way never has. She blames his
ex-wife who works for the railroad which she accuses of tampering with
paperwork. Impossible!!!! I tried to explain all she needs to do is
have a copy of the marriage certificate, death certificate for Railroad
Retirement when she is eligable at 60 years old. Some people don't get
it. I had sympathy when I read her post after talking to her she is
just looking for a hand out. Mabey she should get down to Social
Security to apply for disablity. That's the only disability she might
be entitled to.

Name: cindy mills
E-mail: cindy2989@aol.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 October 2009

My husband worked for csx for 29 years he died in 2002 since then i have
got nothing from the railroad no answers to any of my questions i am in
the process of forcloser on my home i have received none of my husbands
penison the problem is my husbands ex-wife has worked for the railroad
in the office and she has changed paperwork at csx so i would no be
able to recieve anything i cant get anyone to help me because they  are
all friends with her so i have lost everything because of this  I can
prove everything i am saying but no body will listen no body will
return none of my calls  i hate to say this but csx transportation has
distroyed me and caused me to lose everthing my husband work for i hope
one day someone from csx will call me and listen to what i have to say
it has been 7 years since my husband died an i havent go one red cent
from csx railroad or anything to help me in any way  i am disable and
just trying to live and they have been the rudest people i have ever
had to deal with it seems at a time like this they would try to work
with familys of deceasted employees not try to distroy them thanks to
anyone for listening cindy mills 7704246675

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 October 2009

Most of the hiring on the railroad was family members which lasted to
the late '90s. Hiring family was common in a lot of industries like
coal mines, steel mills, white collar jobs. Nothing wrong with it.
Family members already knew what to expect. I worked with a lot of
railroaders that were/are 3rd & 4th generation railroad. In reality
most railroaders would wish their children didn't hire on the railroad
and went on to get a college education. Non-family employees seem to
have the most problems with adjusting to the downside like
understanding seniority and furloughs. I didn't have family the C&O
hired me because I was a Veteran all it took was filling out an
application with the Ohio Employment Agency veterans department. I did
have inside info a friend who worked for Conrail called me out in
California in early 1977 to say they were hiring his brother worked for
the C&O. I packed my duffle bag and hitched hiked cross country it took
three days. Life wasn't easy because of that fact most railroaders
felt it was a family oriented business. Furloughs didn't matter one of
my first jobs after being discharged out of the service in 1974 was the
LOF Glass factory in Toledo Ohio sixteen weeks after being hired they
closed the plant down during one of this countries many recessions. We
did what we had to do to survive the rough times.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 October 2009

Hey Rad;

Nothing has changed...today the big operations know who they're
hiring, usually an insider, before the ads are ever published.
Everything else is just a dog and pony show so they can remain
"politically correct"!

Name: RAD
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 October 2009

When i hired on it was CONRAIL, It seemd to me they had a inside way of
hiring people as i never seen a ad in a paper for railroad workers,
Never!!! I got on when i was 18, I knew this one station agent so i
went down there and talked to him, He made a phone call to someone in
the main office who i don,t know, But when he got off the phone he said
go to the main office the next day and get a physical exam, Yup that
quick and when i went down there they had a big sighn on the front
door, NO APPLICATIONS BEING TAKEN!!! As soon as i told them who i was
It was stright to the company dr for the physical & x-rays, I filled
out the paper work AFTER THE PHYSICAL EXAM!!!! 

I also got to know this one hogger very well, He had 4 sons and all of
them got jobs on the railroad, So he must have known some one in upper
managment very good too although he never did mention that to me over
the years i knew and worked with him,, I am sure some will say this was
a unfair way to hire people, But that is the way they did it back then,
Perhaps the company thought it was a better way to get a more dedicated
person for railroad work?????  If anyone remembers getting hired this
way i sure would like to hear about it as i do assume the former B&O
did it this way too???

Name: CSX Blow
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 October 2009

Well, I guess Mr Michael P. Kelly had his own private agenda to
supplement his railroad retirement. You can be rest assured that this
is by all mean not an isolated incident. He just so happened to be one
of the few to be caught. I just wish they would catch the rest of the
union officials that are crooks and feel they can get away with out
representing us and take our money and run. They need to be working on
the crooked CSX officials too. Most of them don't have an I.Q. of a
can of beans and are responsible for running a portion of railroad.
There is NO accountability whatsoever on this railroad. Every official
I have had ANY dealing with ALWAYS passes the buck to someone else and
they never seem to take responsibility for their own action which is SO
sad because these guys are supposed to be leading us by example and not
to mention be coaching us. These are the guys we are supposed to look
up to....LMAO.......

Name: Hillbilly Ninja
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 October 2009

Union Official gets 366 days fed pen...(I worked with this guy, and he
wouldn't even by me lunch...all while taking the brother's money.)

He was an Ex-Con, now he will be one again.....

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from Mansfield News Jounral Online

A retired Crestline, Ohio CSX UTU Union Officer will spend a year and a
day in federal prison for embezzlement.


Michael P. Kelly, 61, was sentenced Tuesday in U.S. District Court to
do his time at Morgantown Federal Correction Institution in West
Virginia. He could have received up to five years in prison.

In July, Kelly pleaded guilty to a felony charge of embezzling $97,970
from United Transportation Union Local 586, of Willard, while serving
as its secretary and treasurer.

Kelly embezzled the union funds from January 2004 through November 2006
while working from his home in Crestline. He worked as a conductor for
CSX and retired in 2008 after 42 years.

According to federal statute, Kelly is barred from maintaining a local
union office for three years.

Judge Lesley Wells of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District
gave Kelly a reduced sentence because he had no criminal history,
alcohol or substance abuse, or mental illness.

"I don't think you'll do this again," Wells said. "I think you
figured out you shouldn't have done this. You started paying it back,
and that's a good thing. But you have a long way to go."

According to court documents, Kelly obtained the funds by issuing
numerous checks payable to himself recorded as salary and expenses. In
those cases, he made automated withdrawals from the union account that
he was responsible for maintaining. There were a few instances where
Kelly issued checks written by his wife and daughter, including a
$1,500 check for his daughter's tuition.

To conceal the unauthorized transactions, Kelly forged the signature of
the union president on most of the checks, issued and negotiated some
checks containing only his signature and falsely recorded the payee's
name on the union's disbursement control ledger for some checks.

Wells said Kelly would take money from next month's salary and use it
for bills and paid the union back on payday. Over time, he would get in
over his head and was unable to pay the money back.

Kelly was ordered to pay restitution of $75,000 to the Great American
Insurance Company (of Local 586), $18,268 to his local union office and
$100 for special assessment. To date, Kelly has paid the union $5,300,
according to court documents.

While in prison, Kelly will pay 25 percent of his monthly income
through the Federal Board of Prisons Inmate Financial Responsibility
Program. If a restitution balance remains upon his release, Kelly will
pay 10 percent of his monthly income during the term of supervised
release.

Wells said Kelly's pension and retirement income will not be affected
during his prison term.

Kelly sat next to defense attorney Carlos Warner, calm and collected.
Kelly briefly addressed the court, accepting full responsibility.

"Whatever I need to do, I'll do. I want to put this in the past and
move on," Kelly said.

Wells read a statement from Kelly before sentencing.

"Family means everything to me, and I'm sorry I put them in this
position," Kelly wrote. "I accept full responsibility and ask for
forgiveness."

tbradley1@nncogannett.com 419-521-7233

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 October 2009

NoMo--Want to know what Ward is basing his projection of "coal will be
weak" on into 2010 on? Check this site, WWW.LoganBanner.com and look
at an article about two articles down. It talks about coal miners
shouting down protesters. 

The story masks the Corp of Engineers proposal to slow or eliminate the
streamlined process where mountian top removal is permitted, which will
soon lead to a reinstatement of a complete ban. 

Well, damn, what happens when you can't mine coal?? Duh!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 October 2009

You gotta love this...

Only in the America, the land of milk, honey and unbridled greed could
a stock jump $2.79 a share with a announcement like this...

http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1341489&highlight=

I especially like this..."The third quarter reinforces our view that
the worst of the recession is likely behind us," said Michael J. Ward,
chairman, president and chief executive officer. "At the same time, our
coal business will be impacted by weak demand well into 2010."

Well Mike, if the worst is behind us, I guess all those still
furloughed can expect a call from CMC any time now!

Name: spongebob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 October 2009

BLET president arrested on bribe charge 
(The following press release was issued by the U.S. Justice
Department’s U.S. attorney’s office for the Eastern District of
Missouri in St. Louis.) 

 

Edward W. Rodzwicz, president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive
Engineers and Trainmen, was arrested on a federal complaint charging
him with bribery, Acting U.S. Attorney Michael W. Reap announced Oct.
13.

 

Rodzwicz is the sitting president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive
Engineers and Trainmen (BLET), a national labor union with over 55,000
members consisting of railroad employees throughout the United States.
It is a division of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT). 

 

According to the affidavit filed with the criminal complaint, the BLET
maintains a list of designated legal counsel (DLC), who are recommended
to their membership to handle injury cases under the Federal Employers
Liability Act (FELA). Designation as a DLC generates very lucrative
business for designated attorneys. 

 

The national president of the BLET has final authority over the
designation of FELA attorneys. 

 

In February 2009, an internal compliance committee recommended that a
particular DLC attorney for the BLET should lose his designation, due
to alleged violations of DLC Rules of Conduct. 

 

On March 10, 2009, Rodzwicz approached that attorney in Little Rock,
Ark., and solicited a payment from that attorney in exchange for
allowing him to retain his DLC designation. The DLC attorney contacted
the Department of Labor, Office of Inspector General. 

 

In subsequent meetings at the attorney's office in St. Louis, and at
Harrah's Casino, Las Vegas, Rodzwicz solicited and agreed to accept a
cash payment of $10,000 from the attorney, plus the promise of an
additional cash payment of $10,000 after Rodzwicz allowed him to retain
his designation. 

 

Rodzwicz accepted a cash payment from the attorney on April 28, 2009,
in Las Vegas, and he sent a letter allowing the attorney to retain his
designation on May 1, 2009. 

 

He accepted a second cash payment of $10,000 from the attorney on Sept.
16, 2009, in Kansas City, Mo.

 

The complaint was filed in the Eastern District of Missouri last week
and remained suppressed until the arrest of Mr. Rodzwicz this morning
by agents with the Department of Labor, Office of Inspector General, at
his home in Avon, Ohio.

 

Daniel R. Petrole, acting inspector general, U.S. Department of Labor,
stated: "Union members expect that their officials will do what is
right on their behalf. If these allegations are proven, there has been
a serious breach of the union members' trust. My agency will continue
to work with the U.S. Attorney's Office to investigate this type of
crime."

 

Rodzwicz, 63, was charged with one violation of 18 U.S.C. section 666,
bribery in connection with a federally funded program; and one
violation of 18 U.S.C. section 1952, interstate travel to carry on
unlawful activity. He made his initial appearance this afternoon in
Cleveland.

 

If convicted, 18 U.S.C. section 666 carries a maximum penalty of ten
years in prison and/or fines up to $250,000; 18 U.S.C. section 1952
carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and/or fines up to
$250,000.

 

The charges set forth in a complaint are merely accusations, and the
defendant is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty.
 
October 14, 2009

Name: dillweed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 October 2009

CSX sucks almost as bad as the Unions that they own. I don't care if it
is BLE or UTU- they both suck CSX D. and they both screw the Union
members. I guess the RR used to be a decent job. Those days are long
gone by. With the FRA hos laws in place, they have pretty much capped
our pay. F all the BS.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 October 2009

Name: FEDUP
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 October 2009

You could be right that giving up and finding another job is the easy
way out! The other hand says it is probally the best thing to do. I
did
not know until last month that after being fourloughed so much with
children in the home that I actually qaulified for over 3,000 bucks
per
semester in financial aid to go back to school on. I didnt realize
that
there are jobs out there that can take me back to what I made just
three yars ago! My mind says one minute man your taking a paycut. Then
reality sets in and says your not making as much as you use to being
fourloughed all the time. I have a job that works me 40 hours a week
again. Im home every night, Im home on the weekend, I can scedule
things. Im back in college this fall for free and I can honestly say
that when I think about csx I want to throw up! I am so much happier
now than I have ever been! There use to be a guy post on here all the
time that would talk about what a great decision he made leaving the
railroad and people would argue back telling him hes posting on this
site and he was full of shit! I found out hes not hes just happier now
and wants everyone at CSX to know he is! All the old fucks who wanted
use younger men cutt-off so they could get that call! All The old
fucks
who wanted us conductors cut back so they would not mark up cutt back
engineers.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

FEDUP,
 NO it is not easy to leave the RR. The easy way is to just accept the
conditions, and go along, pay up, shut up, and go when they call.
Glad you saw the whole picture and did what was right for you and your
family. Stay in school you will never regret the effort.

PS: they still tell me that I am full of shit and know absolutely
nothing. I know better and now you do also.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 October 2009

Ingram must be a fan of Nazi Germany.   He has quotas to get rid of 
employees to in still control.  Several Good Jewish Lawyers should step
up and sue CSX for this Ingram Ward management regime.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 October 2009

You answered your own question. Management will do as it's told. We've
seen difficult times before but not like this situation. Everytime a new
SVP of transportation steps in they make change some have went the
kinder route others tried to rule with an iron fist. Ingram has taken
it to a different level more sadistic. If we think we have it bad its
unimaginable what management goes through to get to a level where
they're forced to do things against their own beliefs to save their
jobs. The few I know that quit or were dismissed and went back to their
crafts felt like a weight was lifted off their chest. Anyone who rules
through intimidation has serious mental problems.

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 October 2009

Will things change when Ingram is gone? Or is the Csx "step and fetch
' mentality so ingrained in management that it can't change? So many
new managers system wide hired without any previous railroad experience
and trained by the carrier the Csx way.  They don't know the way things
used to be.  The space between "us" and "them" is greater now then
ever before.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 October 2009

Thing's will change when Ingram is gone seen that happen at least a
dozen times over the years. Every new administration has a plan just
don't know which direction they'll take it. I've been off work for 3
1/2 months people call every week with the RR news on how it's getting
worse instead of improving or even just leveling out. TM's & RFE's
are required to do three banner test per week in just the yard that
could be up to 15 not counting the road. One RFE is so gung-ho he does
three a day figures seeing he's out he might as well test. There still
nailing people for any infraction no matter how minuit. People need to
look at it as a game.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 October 2009

Nomo,


   I keep telling myself that things will improve when Ingrams gone to
keep hope alive. I'm 6 years into my 40 years sentance and from where
I'm looking right now, hope is at the far end of a long, hard, road. I
was talking with a Norfolk Southern crew a few months back and they
swear things improved 10 fold after Ingram left. They said it took a
year or so but it eventually went back to the way it had been prior to
Ingram. It is on this that my hope is founded. Maybe it's too
optamistic, who knows, but I can't even bring myself to think about 34
more years of this shit. I love my job and the guys I work with but (as
with everyone else) I fucking hate CSX. I saw a T-Shirt on
cafepress.com the other day. It had a picture of a CSX engine and it
said "I love the fucking railroad and the railroad loves fucking me".
That should be a part of everyone's wardrobe, lol.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 October 2009

Hey Joe:

Hadn't heard from you in a while...I'm afraid you're right except
the standard is set and will continue long after Ingram's gone! The
unions are impotent and might as well fade away...like the ads say,
"ask you Doctor if you're healthy enough for sex", in the union's
case the answer is no; so they should go to the mall and sit on the
dead pecker bench with the other has beens!

I didn't know they renewed Ingrams contract...too bad. I guess 5 years
wasn't enough time for Ingram to deliver on his promise to bring the
Harriman Award to Water Street. In the real world, people are fired for
failure to perform, In CSX's case they get rewarded...
says a lot about CSX's management and BoD!

Name: Dead Peasant
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 October 2009

http://jonathanturley.org/2009/02/25/peasant-uprising-widow-sues-late-husbands-employer-over-dead-peasant-insurance-policy/

"the employer of her late husband Daniel Johnson was to receive $1.6
million after his death under a practice known in the industry as a
“dead peasant” insurance policy. Under this common practice, employers
take out life insurance on employees and write off the payments as a
business expense. They then collect a windfall when one of the
“peasants” die."

CSX do this?

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 October 2009

Nomo,

     I'm sure that managment hasn't gotten any softer. I think it's
just that everyone is tired of beating their heads aginst the wall and
it's become an accepted fact that being treated like an expendable
piece of shit is and will continue to be the standard until Ingram is
gone. The fact that CSX renewed his contract tells me they feel he's
rightious in his quest to make the lives of the only revenue generating
employees they have, as hard and miserable as possible. Oldheads will
retire, Ingram will eventually die, and life on CSX will have no choice
but to improve. In a few years we will be all that remains of the
current CSX we've all come to love and when you've pulled time in the
deepest pits of hell, pergatory will be a breeze. NS came to their
senses and eventually will too.

Name: FEDUP
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 October 2009

You could be right that giving up and finding another job is the easy
way out! The other hand says it is probally the best thing to do. I did
not know until last month that after being fourloughed so much with
children in the home that I actually qaulified for over 3,000 bucks per
semester in financial aid to go back to school on. I didnt realize that
there are jobs out there that can take me back to what I made just
three yars ago! My mind says one minute man your taking a paycut. Then
reality sets in and says your not making as much as you use to being
fourloughed all the time. I have a job that works me 40 hours a week
again. Im home every night, Im home on the weekend, I can scedule
things. Im back in college this fall for free and I can honestly say
that when I think about csx I want to throw up! I am so much happier
now than I have ever been! There use to be a guy post on here all the
time that would talk about what a great decision he made leaving the
railroad and people would argue back telling him hes posting on this
site and he was full of shit! I found out hes not hes just happier now
and wants everyone at CSX to know he is! All the old fucks who wanted
use younger men cutt-off so they could get that call! All The old fucks
who wanted us conductors cut back so they would not mark up cutt back
engineers.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 October 2009

I don't know if it's just me or if there is something to it; but it
seems the level of bitching about management harassment and e-testing
is way down.

I have followed this site for 3+ years now and have never seen it this
quiet. Therefore (1)CSX's management has backed off; or (2)all the
most vocal complainants are furloughed or fired and moved on and those
remaining are too tired to post; or (3)everyone has been beat down to
the point they have accede.

In talking to current CSX employees I believe that of the three
possible scenarios No. 3 is the most likely. They all use phrases like
"we use to do it that way" or "I don't do it like that any more".
They go on to say that everyone has been on the street at least once;
and those who should have been gone years ago just can't seem to get
canned no matter what they do!

Any one care to offer any insight...it the fourth quarter and 
"Banana" time is almost here, I need some guidance!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 October 2009

Making calls in the middle of the night is what a crew caller does for
a living. Just doing their job. It's annoying then again you might of
wanted to work. How do they know? You choose this profession it didn't
seek you out. It pays the bills gives you health insurance which makes
you luckier than over 20% of the people in this country. Detriot is a
prime example unemployment is 28% a lot of states are at the 9+%
unemployment catagory everyone should be grateful to have a job in
these troubling times. 

CSX has gone to the extreme by putting on gaurenteed furlough boards an
example of what the UP did. Found out about it yesterday offering $2000
a month those on it have to be available two weeks out of the month.
You can still draw unemployment for the other two weeks or find a job
that doesn't conflict with it. It keeps both health benefits and
retirement credits intact. Your local union has to request it. Get all
the younger members working or furloughed together head down to a union
meeting and make a motion have someone second it the next months meeting
show up in force and ratify it. You are the majority. 

None will argue the fact that CSX management is the worst in the
industry that problem will have to wait for Tony Ingram to be gone till
then it'll be more of the same. Quitting is the easy way out.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 October 2009

crew caller running a roster...my phone rings..3 times..not even enough
time for me to answer..and then the guy call....7 times..in a matter of
5 minutes....needless to say its 0119 in the morning..wife has to get up
at 0400 hours for work..and this..guy care nothing at all.... all he
wants is forsome to ansnwer his call..and then he is off to his next
phone call... o ya..should i also so im 5 deep on the board...with
plenty of guys on the extraboard....... o well... another 30 plus hours
of being awake with no sleep.. all while move n the trains safe right???
train line up?? to me that all i got to plan my life.... look at the
train line up..look to see where i fall in line...figure what train i
will get and when... spend the time in between with my family and try
to get rested...and then just as u lay down..that train line up has
changed...or they just want YOU so your phone rings...and there u
go...no rest...no sleep...just go...move the train..thats your
job...this place sucks so bad...and no one...and i mean no one from the
bottom to the top even cares on bit at all....  if  could find any
job..and i do mean any job...that even paid 8 bucks an hour..and
didn't have to drive for an hour to get there... i would find the
person's phone number i hate the most..change my contact info with
this place...and never think about it again

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 October 2009

This explains it all:

http://nynerd.com/the-money-you-could-be-saving/

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 September 2009

Yesterday there was a job posting for an engineer out of Springfield
Mass. on the Amtrak web site. Someone should really consider this.

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 September 2009

Thanks for nothing- well you are right about 1 thing! I happened to see
the test for New Hire Track Workers and I can say it is Pathetic! Come
on know Basic English which is understandable, Basic Math-
Adding,Subtracting,Multiplying, Dividing is ok but Fractions! What for?
Who uses it anyway besides back in school. I don't know about the
interveiw! But I do agree there are the games they play with people.

Name: Thanks for Nothing
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 September 2009

There is a lot of truth in this site. I tried for over a year to get a
career started with CSX through two testing sessions and two job
interviews. The jobs was for the Russell roundhouse and the Russell
yard. Both were a waste of my time and theirs as it was all a put on
for the public. Mr. Skinhead (the top management offical) was very
obnoxious and acted as if he was retarded. During the interviews he
acted like it was a bother for him to be there. Of course it was as he
knew who was going to get the jobs. The very people that are
complaining about working. I was willing to work any shift any hour and
start with a forward look to a new career with responsibility. But
instead I was treated like I was a crimminal and wasting his time for
showing up to take a test he probably can't pass and never saw as he
probably had the inside track for his job. I was at first disppointed
that I didn't get a career to enjoy but after I found out how the
positions were filled I jumped with joy. Whoever you knew the most in
top management at CSX got you the job, not on your skills that could be
used for the commpany's interest. Well Mr. Skinhead I hope you enjoy
the people you hired and get everything coming to you. I hope the
company sees the truth in you and puts you on skidrow where you belong.
No wonder people are complaining if all CSX management likes the look of
you.

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 September 2009

Well it appears no one cab make informed, factual or intelligent threads
anymore. I'm sure the company really loves this site the way it's
operating now. It makes you all look just like the company wants you to
look. I'll check back in a few weeks again to see if the same babbling,
idiotic, moronic post are still being entered on all venues. If they are
I will do just as I have been doing, nothing.
You guys have a tool and can't even use it. 

Take a hint from the webmaster:

Use of unnecessary profanity will only make you and your brothers and
sisters seems uneducated. This site is visited by CEOs, investment
bankers, and politicians. Keep it clean, and we will all be taken much
more seriously. 

There seems to be one person missing from here, or is he?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 September 2009

Wrong!!!! Dipschidt. I just took a break from all the garbage being
spewed on this site.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 September 2009

There may be some Tranmaster pretenders on here, but thank god RRJ
appears to be gone.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 September 2009

I don't claim to be better than anyone else but this website has gone
way down in the past three years with these idiots posting under make
believe trainmasters names, or mike ward talking about nonsense. Give
me a break. On a serious note. Anyone and I mean anyone working for CSX
between Selkirk and Boston and all points in between with more than 10
yrs to go had better try like hell and get out. The Pan Am Southern is
eventually going to steal whatever work CSX pisses away. CSX has
finally sold the railroad Boston to Worcester. The B & A as we know it
is coming to an end. Might not be next week or next year but it's
coming. No regular jobs out of Selkirk, guys with 20+ yrs. commuting to
work out of Boston or Framingham. What a disgrace. Go to Metro North,
the MBTA or Amtrak. Do it!!! Don't worry about starting over and
giving up your seniority. You don't have any anyways! No yard jobs and
the hours of service changes have screwed you guys even more. I was
fortunate to get out 3 yrs ago. I gave up 9 yrs and it felt like
somebody took an anvil off my back. Leaving this shithole saved my
life. Working for the railroad does'nt have to suck. Good luck to all
and I wish you my best.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 September 2009

You Queer, SuckaCock:

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on!

You're an embarrassment to all gay people...please put your pacifier,
I mean butt plug back in before you make a mess!

The only pin you have ever pulled is your own. You have never had sex
with a Woman let alone a Man. As bad as CSX is, they're not going to
employ a moran like you that can't spell or put a sentence
together...you don't even knows who the players are.

You and your alter ego Madman (the clone) can sit around and bump Dick
Heads all night long if you want, or you can come to Mobile and
strut your stuff...if you can get out school...chump.

Name: Lord suckalot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 September 2009

Hello NoMo my Dear! Are you still going to accept my Invitation to join
us in the Executive Tower! You My SweetHeart are telling the Unionized
Monkey's the Truth!

We have a Reserved Office Space for you and Safety Strike here on Water
Street!, please Do Not Disapoint us or You will Feel our Wrath!, You
Sweaty Hunk You!                                    
      

                              Lord Suckalot
                 CSX Executive HandMaiden to God!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 September 2009

If you can afford it...try asking for a quiet, zone CSX will be happy to
fix you up!


     http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=48985

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 September 2009

Hey Lefty:

Great post...keep it up!

Name: Lefty
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 September 2009

Lord suck. Can you give us some suck heisman hopefuls
like jack vierlings reach Round move he does for frulla  or let's see
how about rob brownells keg stand at the Csx safety stand down. Woops
forgot what they told me about drinking and driving ......... Mr
pendergrass what are those blue lights flashing
for ? Is thAt a breThaluzer or are they just glad ro see me

Name: retired
E-mail: home
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 September 2009

all you assholes that post on all post should just quit doing this and
post on only one. donot let everyone know what a dumb ass you really
are.everytime I see your post I just drop  down to the next one.thanks
for giving us your post but once is enogh.

Name: Mike Ward
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 September 2009

OK! I see you like to my screen name. I wonder if you are Man enough to
come out and voluntarily give us your real name! You can play all the
games you want, but you are starting to bore the he'll out of me. I am
starting to beleive this is Suckassalot that is using my name. After all
only he would come up with constant anal penetration, I know you like
it, I know you do, I really do.  Come on now GET A LIFE! Go play with
Bonzo your wife and use your own screen name! Homo!!  You should
practice being more like a man - like that MadMan fellow...now there's
a real fruitcake creepy guy for you - just what we like. Young and dumb.


You are nothing but a Fucking loser- What Happened to you while you
were growing up? I wonder that your ugly mother didn't give you the
hugs & kisses and sour milk,  did she spike you on the floor like a
football causing permanent brain damage, or did she let
your father, uncles and their friends & neighbors molest you like a
Catholic priest?! 

I could go on but your not even worth it, life is short just like
yourself with nobody wants to be your friend you are what other people
would call a No Life Homo Hermit. What is your pupose in life? Why do
you choose to try & Fuck with my name and post your Bullshit! Don't
you know who I am??!! I am the spike sticker upper you asser!!

Forget it you FUCKING JUNGLE CRICKET!  I will have your balls hanging
on my belt by noon tomarrow. The CSX HOMO investigative units have been
notified and are tracking you down this very minute. Surrender, faggot. 
I KNOW WHO YOU ARE and WHERE YOU LIVE.  My agents will crawl into your
bedroom window tonight and cut your nuts off while you sleep.
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Mommy cant save your now - your ass is mine. All
mine. So are your nuts.  BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA.

Have a Safe CSX Day. 

                             Mike Ward

Name: Lord suckalot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 September 2009

Oh My Dear Michael,
Are you that Sexy Man that I got Hired after that Day in the Bathroom.
I believe it is you! I thought you were gone, You must of Improved in
your Sucking skills if you are still here. We must meet again real soon
and i'll bring Bonzo along, I am sure you remember him..... CSX has
done an Excellent job career for you that I see. I tried to explain
this to the Unionized Monkeys that alot of sucking can get you far in
this Company. You turned me on I must say! Do you still wear them
little red Hot Pants?..Surely you must My Love to land in the Posistion
that you are in. Call Me you Stud!

Lord suckalot,
CSX Executive Handmaiden to God and soon to be a father to twin
suckalots! can you believe it!?!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 September 2009

Seems as though a post was made that management wants to bury and stymie
discussion on...ergo all the bullshit posts!

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 September 2009

OK! I see you like to my screen name. I wonder if you are Man enough to
come out and give us your real name! You can play all the games you
want, but you are starting to bore the he'll out of me. I am starting
to beleive this is Suckassalot that is using my name. After all only he
would come up with constant anal penetration. Come on now GET A LIFE! Go
play with Bonzo your wife and use your own screen name! 

You are nothing but a Fucking loser- What Happened to you while you
were growing up? I wonder that your mother didn't give you the hugs &
kisses, did she spike you on the floor like a football or did she let
your father, uncles and their friends & neighbors molest you! I could
go on but your not even worth it, life is short just like yourself with
nobody wants to be your friend you are what other people would call a No
Life Hermit. What is your pupose in life? Why do you choose to try &
Fuck with my name and post your Bullshit!  Forget it you FUCKING JUNGLE
CRICKET!

Name: MICHAEL J. FRAWLEY
E-mail: mhp.mike@gmail.com
Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 September 2009

I DO NOT KNOW WHY YOU HAVE SUCH A GRUDGE AGAINST
CSX, THIS COMPANY WAS GOOD TO ME FOR 26 YEARS. I WAS
A UNION REP WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMUNICATIONS
UNION AND I WILL SAY FOR THE MOST PART CSX TREATED
US VERY WELL. 

MOST EMPLYOEES IF NOT NOT ALL ARE PAID WELL AND THEY
ARE PROVIDED A SAFE AND CLEAN WORK PLACE TO WORK IN. 

YES, I KNOW YOU ALWAYS HAVE PEOPLE COMPLAIN GOD KNOWS
I HEARD ENOUGH OF IT BUT TELL THEM TO TRY TO GET A DECENT
JOB IN THIS ECONOMY. YOU NEED TO STOP AND THANK GOD FOR
WHAT YOU HAVE IF YOU WORK FOR CSX.

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 September 2009

Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen.
    We here at CSX do really not appreciate your concerns of Safety,
Behaviors of Train Masters, and other Supervision Personnel. I am going
to launch a missle into these concerns. I have also created a
more aggressive team of Nazi Investigators headed by the recreated Home
Office of the Mobile Officer I. (HOMO I). This Office will Investigat
all the Claims that were posted here and forward the results to the
proper Personnel for interrogation and torture, and will stick a spike
up your ass.

HOMO I  will also Ignore all alledged white collar crime and thoroughly
investigate all union thefts that have been increasing
of CSX Property. There will be a change of Command so there will be 
total confusion such the CSX Police will no longer fall under Stupidity
and Lackies- They will be deployed under the new name of Honor
Organization Mobile Offfice II (HOMO II) Units this Unit will fall
under the Un-enforcement Arm of HOMO I. 

The Newly created HOMO I Office of the HOMO II mployees are
Sworn Nazi Enforcement Whores of Transporation Surrogates (NEWTS) 
Federal Commishoned Special Agents. I must inform all Employees that
the Newly created Office is
unlike the CSX Police. They are Naked Homo Special Agents they can
be Identified by their issued Fig Leaves and rusty spikes just for
Suckassalot.  If encountered by a Naked Agent you are to give full
compliance (bend over) or face formal Discipline Charges.

The Office of the HOMO will also Investigate all baseless 
Threats, Racial Descrimination, Etc. CSX has an absolute Tolerence
Policy for Work Place Violence, Racial Discrimination and Sexual
Fornication.  All Reports, including videos and pictures, will be
forwarded to myself for my personal private review and will be dealt
with accordingly. This can or will lead up to Promotion and Six Sigma
training for any managment personnel, and  Termination and Criminal
Charges on any union employee violators. The Selection Process has
already started with a few members in here by utilyzing their
Information Provided and their Home HTML Connections, such as NoMo,
RRJ, Lloyd, Suckassalot, Sam the Slave, Binheer2long, Goober, and many
others. 

I am Pleased to Provide an Extra layer of Protection on our Dedicated
Managers and Supervisors, and stick spikes up the asses of jackoffs
like suckassalot. 

I would like to Thank You for taking out time to read this
Announcement. Have a very Safe Day.

                                                                      

                M. Ward  


All stupid Employees are Required to have your CSX Idetification
visable at all times while on Company Property.

Name: Mike Ward
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 September 2009

Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen.
    We here at CSX do really appreciate your concerns of; Safety,
Behaviors of Train Masters, and other Supervision Personnel. I am going
to launch a Investigation into these concerns. I have also created a
more aggressive team of Investigators headed by the recreated Office of
the Inspector General (OIG). This Office will Investigat all the Claims
that were posted here and forward the results to the proper Personnel.

The Office of the Inspector General (OIG) will also Investigate all
alledged white collar crime as well as Thefts that have been increasing
of CSX Property. There will be a chain of Command so there will be no
confusion such the CSX Police will no longer fall under Security and
Safety- They will be deployed under the new name of Mobile Tactical
Units this Unit will fall under as the Enforcement Arm of the Office of
the Inspector General (OIG). 

The Newly created Office of the Inspector General(OIG) Employees are
Sworn Law Enforcement Officials (LEO) Federal Commishoned Special
Agents. I must inform all Employees that the Newly created Office is
unlike the CSX Police. They are Plain Clothed Special Agents they can
be Identified by their issued Credentials and Badge. If encountered by
a Special Agent you are to give full compliance or face formal
Discipline Charges.

The Office of the Inspector General(OIG) will also Investigate all
Threats, Racial Descrimination, Etc. CSX has a Zero Tolerence Policy
for Work Place Violence and Racial Discrimination. All Reports will be
forwarded to myself for review and be dealt with accordingly. This can
or will lead up to Termination and Criminal Charges on any violators.
The Selection Process has already started with a few members in here by
utilyzing their Information Provided and their Home HTML Connections.

I am Pleased to Provide an Extra layer of Protection on our Dedicated
Employees.
I would like to Thank You for taking out time to read this
Announcement. Have a very Safe Day.

                                                                       
                M. Ward  


All Employees are Required to have your CSX Idetification visable at
all times while on Company Property.

Name: Lord Suckalot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 September 2009

Hello People,

Today we will have a lesson in CSX management style. 

We will teach you how to be CSX managers by yelling, cursing and
screaming. 

So, lets exercise our vocal cords, shall we?  

First, pick out a target - the wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, dog, cat
......what ever is handy. 

Next, scream at the top of your lungs:

"WHAT THE GOD DAMN HELL DO YOU THINK YOUR DOING???!!!"

Ok, now you gotta really shreek it so the windows explode and the
target gets blown through the wall. 


Next, try this one:

"YOU STUPID IDIOT....CANT YOU DO A GOD DAMN THING? YOUR ASS IS FIRED!!
 GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!!!!

YOU HEAR ME???!!! YOU FUCKING MORON!!!!!YOUR GOD DAMN ASS IS FIRED!!!


Now, really bellow that one out, and make your eyes bulge out as much
as possible to give it the full effect.  Make sure you blow out lots of
spittle and foam while yelling, and make sure you are only inches away
from the target when screaming the profanities. 

Feel free to scream your own ADDED profanities like, shithead, dumbass
etc. 

Ok. Once you have mastered the screaming, practice on your co-workers. 
 For best results, sneak up behind one and start shrieking and screaming
as loud as you can. Make him or her have a heart attack with your
scream.  If you can pop glass with your shrieking and scream, and
reduce an employee to a quivering pile of shit -  your management
material!! 

Now, go get em!   Be a part of the CSX management
team....SCREAM....SHRIEK......CURSE (and dont forget to foam & spit). 

Best of Luck, my little monkeys. 


Lord Suckalot,
CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 September 2009

Not that it would make any difference to the vast majority of those
furloughed...is CMC making the cut back engineers exercise their
seniority before they're allowed to work the ground; and if not, why
not?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 September 2009

Again today Suckalot shows us he still SUCKS. Grow up asshole and stop
wasting our time...

Name: Lord Suckalot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 September 2009

Hello my slanty eyed monkeys,

It is time for your weekly suck up lesson. 

Rule #289q7, paragraph 93, page 88, Sucking Up Field Manual:

"All union monkeys are required to salute an person of management when
passing within visual proximity.  Failure to salute will result in two
butt lickings."

Please bone up (heh heh) on your sucking up rules manual, or risk the
wrath of Bonzo the chimp. 

On another topic, please note that CSX is 110% committed to anti-fraud
practices.  In this regard, we are looking for a Director of Fraud
Investigation.  If you have any investigative sucking experience,
contact Merry Mike Ward.

Ok, that about covers it.  Except I still think MadMan the beast would
look hot doing the Goochy-Goochy-Goo Go-Go Dance in hotpants while
sliding up and down a pole. Drooling would be even better.  We like our
monkeys to drool whenever possible (creates the image CSX wants:
imbicile employees engaged in full time sucking). 

Christmas is coming!   I suggest we swap gifts this year with a name
drawing.  Anyone who gets my name knows what to give.
Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahaha.

Fairwell, my faggot monkeys, I remain:

Lord Suckalot, 
husband to Queeen of SuckaLot,  
CSX Executive Handmaiden to GOD.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 September 2009

HOMOPHOBIC BIGOTRY, I think not... Just telling it like it is, something
this fool needs to learn. Suckalot still SUCKS.

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 September 2009

HELLO, HELLO! Safety Strike , Nomo & Others ! 

Have you even read what I POSTED! Damn you guys are Ignorant or Blind!


I have said that we do have the right to REFUSE! Any job that can or
will put us in harms way!

We are all Granted this Right under the FRA. Why are we bitching when
there is a route there already!

The Company can not retaliate against you! Once you excercise you right
to Refuse! 

No.1, Document the Situation and have witnesses sign it. If no witness
is there then document it yourself!

Try to Excersise this right with the proper Supervision! If nothing is
done then Report it to the FRA! Point Blank This is our Rights that you
may not know of or the Company hides from you!

I am tired of hearing the Bitching! We have our Rights so let's use
them!
The Company can tell us 1 Thing but it is up to the FRA that throws in
the Final Ruling!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 September 2009

HOMOPHOBIC BIGOTRY....

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 September 2009

Hey Suckassalot, The only thing I would like to scream is YOU when I
find out who you are! A Bitch can run but can't hide forever. Your
name will be found out & I will be more than happy to share it here!
Your days are running out you Bitch Ass Homo.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 September 2009

I'd like to shove that spike up Lordsuckalots faggot ass. Flamer....

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 September 2009

What could be better right now than a little Ray Davies and the Kinks!

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emF3gtmVS0s&feature=related

Name: Lord SuckaLot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 September 2009

Monkey Boys,

Your next assignment: 

 http://www.stinalisa.com/HokeyPokey.html


Love and Kisses,

Lord SuckaLot
CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 September 2009

How I would love to drive a spike between the eyes of suckassalot!
There is only word to describe sirsuckassalot & that is 100% LOSER!
Too much time on his hands to be any kind of Employee!

So here is some words of advice you, Monkey!
Sit back & read but don't post you should enjoy it while you choke on
a banana!
Turn red & blue then just Die! You will not be missed at all.

Nobody ever misses an asshole such as yourself! I wonder are you
enjoying yourself or are you really that bored? It's time to seperate
the Idiots from the Men! How could you call yourself a real man, after
all you admit that you are a Flaming Homo! I guess your mother is proud
of her long lost little girl! Now I must admit I was against abortions
but after reading your posts you are mainly 1 that escaped! This
dosen't at all excuse you! Please just let me find out who you are, I
will eventually find out it dosen't take a rocket scientist either. A
Monkey that you are will try to avoid detection after all that's a
Monkey's natural defense. You are definetly overdue for a
confrontation! I don't care what you try to respond back with.

A mind is a shameful thing to waste, but as we can tell your mind is
Gone! Now as for a comeback it is way to late! Once a Retard always a
Retard that there is no if's or but's about it. 

So go Fuck Your own Monkey Ass!
Obey this as if were M. Wards Directive.

Remember Managers like to obey & not to disapoint a Directive, you are
sure a run in a mil along with the other Suck Ups in Management!

Name: Retired AVP LR
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 September 2009

Corrina... 

In regard to Susan Hamilton, you have got to be kidding me. She most
certainly listened to you but relized you didnt really know what you
were talking about so moved on to something of importance. Susan has
done a marvelous job as Chief Diversity Officer and has incorp. many
changes. It was a pleasure to be an AVP in LR and work with Susan
Hamilton! Keep up the good work!

Name: Joe Straton
E-mail: info.sonexsupport@gmail.com
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 September 2009

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Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 September 2009

Here's part of the CSX bailout plan:

Coast Guard Plans Mobile River Bridge Alteration 


MOBILE, Ala., Sept. 14 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- CSX Transportation
Inc. today announced the award of a $60 million contract to Scott
Bridge Company of Opelika, Ala., for the alteration of the 14-Mile
Bridge over the Mobile River. 


The total project cost is estimated at $72 million, which includes the
construction contract to the Scott Bridge Company. The project is being
funded largely by the federal government (approximately 94%) under the
Truman-Hobbs Act, which is administered by the U.S. Coast Guard.


The federal portion of the project results from appropriations under
the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 and previous year
bridge alteration appropriations. CSXT will pay approximately 6% of the
project cost, which includes design improvements and communications and
signals work.


The bridge alteration project serves to more than double the capacity
for commercial and pleasure vessels using the waterway. The existing
14-Mile Bridge was constructed in 1925. It operates as a swing span,
pivoting to allow barges and other vessels to pass, and provides a
146-foot channel horizontal clearance for vessels.


The proposed alteration replaces the existing swing span with a
vertical lift span to provide an improved channel horizontal clearance
of 300 feet. The lift span will rise 60 feet, providing plenty of
vertical clearance for vessels that routinely use the waterway.


"We are looking forward to working closely with the Coast Guard and
Scott Bridge on this important transportation project," said John
West, vice president-engineering, for CSXT. "This is the result of
great teamwork among many agencies to design this modern span, and it
will improve the efficiency of both marine and rail traffic."


Site work is already under way with construction expected to start
within two months. The bridge alteration is scheduled to be completed
in two years, with minimal impact on rail and river traffic. The bridge
is named for its location approximately 14 miles north of Mobile.


Several years ago, the Coast Guard determined that the current bridge
was an unreasonable obstruction to navigation, impeding increased
marine traffic, and began working with CSXT to design a new, wider
navigation span. 


CSX Transportation Inc. is a principal operating company of CSX
Corporation. CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is one of
the leading transportation companies, providing rail, intermodal and
rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network
spans 21,000 miles with service to 23 eastern states and the District of
Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river and lake ports. More
information about CSX Corporation and its subsidiaries is available at
the company's web site, www.csx.com.

SOURCE CSX Transportation

Gary Sease of CSX Transportation, +1-877-835-5279

Name: Sam the Slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 September 2009

Master has been spittin out management perverts and narcissitic bobble
heads for years.  Suckalot is the tip of the iceberg. Lots of lost
souls live on Water Street. 

The Flames of Hell await you Lord Suckalot.  

Like Conductor says, it is September 14, 2009 and CSX still Sucks.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 September 2009

SGT,
Now this boy must be a SGT, if not he surely qualifies for the
position. Dumb as a Rock. Once again the lifeguard at the gene pool was
asleep.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 September 2009

Yeah, it's the oldheads fault? Can't you people come up with something
new an original. SGT sounds like he had a few to many DI private drills.
I remember hearing the bumps and thumps from the DI tossing the recruit
around giving him a good arse whooping to get his schidt together. A
Marine doesn't bitch about his situation he takes it like a Marine.
You know the old saying "Once a Marine always a Marine". "Semper
Fi" my arse. No one gaurenteed you anything. You adapt to the
situation. You must of dozed off on that lecture. I'm sure basic
hasn't changed all that much since 1971. Even though I've heard
rumors that a DI can't do his job anymore new recruits are given
"time outs" instead of private instruction if he is a problem. I'm
sure you wouldn't of made it if you complained while you were in the
Corps.

Name: Lord SuckaLot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 September 2009

SGT, I like your attitude. 

The railroads love to hire ex-military.  

There are reasons. 

We have a lot in common. 

Semper Fi.

-Lord SuckaLot
CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: SGT
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 September 2009

So screw the union screw corporate, the old heads care for nothing a
"union" is supposed to be right now their are no foremans on the
conductor board (5 assigned) for the yard 1 open position on the road
and 13 people still furloughed, oh wait the reason why no one is
available for the yard jobs is because crew callers called them to work
the road on a make up turn so they don't have to bring us back because
the road positions keep getting exhausted due to the new hours
regulations and the dipshits don't deny the call, buddy fuckers is
what we called it in The Marine Corps.. Being screwed by my own
people.. Screw the old heads 1 and 1 shit and screw the corporate for
their all to important stock number, but overall screw the union reps
for not doing their jobs

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 September 2009

CSX TRANSPORTATION " How We Move to Destroy Jobs and the Work Forces
"


NEW JOB POSTING
CSX HEADQUARTERS 
Jacksonville, FL.

TITLE: HEAD MASTER
SALARY: VARIES $4.50 HR - Access Card Deposited
HOURS: M - F  WITH MADNATORY WEEKENDS.
HOURS: 7A- 3P BUT SUBJECT TO 24 HOUR RULES.

DUTIES: Wipe the Asses of all of Senior Mangement. This includes and is
not limited of using your tounge in place of toilet paper.

Computer skills are not required, a pencil and paper is acceptable
since the price of printer ink is outrageous.

Must be an Alcohol or Narcotics user at all times.
Must at all times think that you are better than all Unionized
Employees.
 

QUALIFICATIONS - Pre School Dropout, No Common Sense, Drools, Basic
Math, 
Writing. RETARDS will Be the first prefence with an additional 5500
Points.
College Degrees will place in last prefence with -2500 Points.


This job was created for a Brown Noser who's Name is suckalot! All
others Need Not Apply.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 September 2009

Lord suck a lot....a person who thinks he/she is clever, witty, etc.

How sad that one who obviously suffers from Narcissistic Personality
Disorder does not see what a fool he/she is - of course those who
suffer from the disorder never see themselves for what they are.

Lord Suck - you need help.

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 September 2009

My oh my, Suckalot talks alot of shit!
Corporate idiots are chosen and hired by the severity of
retardation,isn't  this correct suckassalot! 

The Corporation seems to be looking for a handout from the Government
point blank.
How much money was wasted to buy Conrail! This was a failure that is
being shoved on the employees by forms of furloghs. Too bad people want
to joke around with somebody's livelyhood.

It does not suprise me that he talks about knob polishing, such a
flaming Homosexual. I bet he's into child porn also. The way he tries
to be creative is a waste of talent that makes it no wonder that he
does work in Corporate. I have to ask that will he e er admit his real
name or is he such a coward and continue to hide and post stupid
comments!

I am not even going to put myself through this Bullshit. I have better
things to do instead of trying to make out his useless comments. Hello
suckassalot, you  must have plenty of time on your hands, I know you
must be Furloghed yourself! The RRB Unemployment sucks dosen't it you
have to sit there and wait for your pay every 2 weeks. The Corporate
side isn't anymore protected than a tick on a dog's ass. 

I have seen Managers come and go for years now and it dosen't bother
me one bit. As  for you a speck in a Corporate world change can happen
over night, in our world we can just bump, transfer etc. and still have
a job. CSX Sucks dosen't it that they hired just to fire you. What a
waste of a college degree just to wind up unemployed. So you can
continue your useless life by posting all the dumb comments you want!
but just remember we are the backbone of this pathetic corporation.


Madman the Enemy of all Corporations

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 September 2009

Name: Unemployed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 September 2009
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX



You can not sit around and wait for the CSX to come to you!They sent
you an offer, maybe not as good as you would like. I am sure it could
be a lot better. However this is real life, the offer is the offer, not
part of the offer but all of the offer. Wake up man the RR does not send
letters out for fun, and try to see if the folk's like them. They sent
you that letter to pay you to move on CSX money and for CSX reasons. If
you sit at home watching Judge Judy you will not retire from the RR, and
your income will be the same today as it was yesterday.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 September 2009

management recieve large bonuses, while they cut cost on the labor
force, sit at country clubs sucking cocktails telling each other what a
good job they are all doing while the guys who are physcially moving
freight dont even get a christmass turkey,job positions are replaced
with remote control boxes,and we all know how that is working.  CSX
should take all that bonus Money they just give to management, who are
already making $150.000 and then some ,and spread the wealth.

Name: C
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 September 2009

Don't know about elsewhere but Danville and Evansville, maybe Chicago
are cut back as far as they have been all year. Maybe even more. More
furloughs still to come by the looks of it. They recalled a bunch in
july then cut em all off again.

Name: Unemployed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 September 2009

I thank you guys for the comments. Im patient and I might as well just
keep taking them on the chin from these guys until its my turn to get
called beck. I've learned that all the Old Heads as we call them were
right all along and that its sad but true that they were not steering
us in the wrong direction. Im just happy to have hope of coming back, I
feel that if you can get your time in with csx that over time it will
pay off greatly.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 September 2009

My last post could be misleading. If you're thinking about one of these
transfers put in your application. Like someone stated if it feels right
do it, if not then it wasn't meant to be. It would be good if someone
from these areas could comment so far that hasn't happened. All I can
state is I made the same choice over 29 years ago and never had any
regrets. If I stayed where I originally hired out it would of been over
10 years before I could hold a year round job. I transferred within 5
years retirements and increases in coal business kicked in and it
worked out fine. One person made a comment that they had 45 people
under them still being 35 from recall. Those are just numbers which
doesn't mean anything if your not working. When I left in 1980 there
were hundreds under me and hundreds above me all furloughed. Sometimes
smaller locations mean better security. Places like Corbin and Loyall
Kentucky might only have a hundred working where Selkirk until recently
had up to 800 T&E before downsizing.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 September 2009

Taking a transfer can be a risk. Sometime you have to take chances. I'm
sure by now they have enough applicants to fill the vacancies. The only
thing that shouldn't be a requirement is giving up your seniority at
your prior location. I think people should be allowed to retain it for
one year with the provision to pay back any bonus if they leave. It
would provide some sense of security. 

I know some on here think I'm unsympathetic. I'm not apologizing. I
write the way I'd speak to someone in person. It's not meant to
berate or belittle anyone it's just the way I'am. It may be crude at
times but it might make a person think. I see to many people on the
railroad who are thrust out on the job unprepared in all crafts not
just T&E. One mistake can cause lot of havoc. I do my best to help and
protect my brothers/sisters railroaders old and young. We've seen to
many mistakes that could of been avoided. Some with dire consequences.
It's an industry that is like no other.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 September 2009

Hey Unemployed:

If and when you get recalled it will be based on business demands not
because the quarter of fiscal year changes.

It's your choice to apply for a transfer, just remember that you will
be at the bottom of the seniority roster and subject to furlough
again next year. Before you decide, think about what's best for
you...6 months, a year, 5years from now!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 September 2009

Until we get this idiot out of the White House the furlough employees
might as well get used to watching "As the world turns". He suckered
the unions just like he suckered eveyone else. HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT TO
DO.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 September 2009

Unemployed, 
Trust me go to Corbin as quick as you can get there. You are playing a
game with those that do not care. They sent you a deal, grab it or
forget the RR and get a job, you are thru.

Name: Unemployed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 September 2009

Im hearing that alot of people are starting to get called back. Ive also
heard that we should be called back to work at the  first of october 
b/c the start of the new quarter. Im just curious if anyone has heard
anything or how its looking. Ive got the info for the transferto corbin
but would rather hold out if I can. Any help would be great . Thanks,
unemployed

Name: Lord SuckaLot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 September 2009

Yes Honey, the rumors are true.  CSX is hiring 9,000 highly trained
south african monkeys to replace middle management. 

Don't know about recalling furloughed union people. I think we here in
the suites would rather hire 900 newbies. You see in this way we can
fire the old ones, and then furlough the new ones. Call it the CSX
cycle of life. Yes, it sucks.  It's suppose to.   

There will be some sex sigma testing though. How is your friend at
licking walnuts?  Nut licking is a number one requirement for new
hires, and special training is required at CSX Suck University for all
new hires.  They don't teach this stuff in church you know. 

Oh, I'm just kidding. Its not all that bad.  As Lord of SuckaLot, I
can assure you there is plenty of room for your friend to sit with the
Faggots of the Round Table and you dont need an invitation.  Just have
S/he show up in some hot pants and a wet t-shirt....the job will be a
shoe-in.   

Sure hope this helps - we here at CSX headquarters do our best to help
the lowly furloughed rank and file.   

Best of luck to your friend's job search - S/he will need it.
Bwahahahahahahahahaha. (little joke there, sweety). 

Yours truly,
I remain 

Lord Suckalot
CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 September 2009

My husband has been furloughed since Jan. He didn't even get to finish
training. But we heard a "rumor" that by this time next year,
"Everyone would be back at work and 900 people would be hired system
wide" What do yall think? Have yall heard something along these lines?
Or do yall have any light to shine at the end of this tunnel? Thanks

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 September 2009

Today being labor Day, a little background on the history and the cost
of the union movement in America:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_Strike


and on the railroads in particular:

             http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 September 2009

Hello friends,

I would just like to take this time to wish everyone a Happy Labor
Day!

It's September 7, 2009.....Although I hate to say it, CSX Still SUCKS!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 September 2009

LE 10-20

What business is it to concern yourself with what I do? But since
you're curious and must know I most likely spend a lot less time on a
computer than you. This an a few other railroad sites are the only ones
I visit then it's read the news check lottery results check the
financial sections see if my portfolio made money check emails all this
with my morning coffee. Which might take up to 2 hours then it's turned
off till the next morning. There you have it my entire pathetic
excistence as you like to put it. Grow up you sound like a whiney
little snot nosed kid. I'll treat you like one remember the saying
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me".

Name: JCD
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 September 2009

Hey RRJ    Thanks for your input. I would like to here from someone in
the Corbin area to hear how things are there like if they have people
layedoff.  I have about 30 employees under on the roster but Iam still
about 45 down myself from being called back.(jax div.)  I always like
to listen to those who have been around playing the game for some time
a person can really learn alot if they just listen.  Have a safe
day....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 September 2009

As always RRJ knows everything, and seems to be an expert on all
subjects.  Do you ever work? Does your whole life revolve around
CSX-SUCKS.com? How pathethic and sad your life must be.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 September 2009

What do you have to think about? If your furloughed with no end in sight
then go for it. No one can make that decision for you. If you can hold
out at your present location then take that into consideration. Of
course under the UTU agreement after 1 year of furlough the railroad
doesn't have to recall anyone that's their choice. People have been
transferring to other locations for decades that is an individual
choice. I made that same decision in 1980 I've never had to regret it.
CSX is offering 30 days lodging plus $12 meals a $1000 bonus on arrival
another $2000 after qualifying then a final one after 2 years. What's
the problem? I posted recently when someone asked about this tranfer
even made mention of one of the areas I think it was Corbin which I
Googled that sounded like an ideal spot to raise a family cost of
living didn't seem expensive country living. If I was young I'd go
for it. If you don't have any seniority at your present location your
losing nothing. If you have a family that has to be taken into
consideration seeing it's not your decision alone to make. If you
don't then what's holding you up? Look at it as a new adventure it
could be a new chapter in your life. People never get anywhere by
sitting idle. With the amount of people furloughed around the system
this offer isn't going to last.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 September 2009

Hey Me:

You didn't mention where your home terminal was, not that it or
matters...or if you're married and have a family. 

Unless you just want to relocate, which will cost money or you and
your family are starving, I don't believe I'd do anything. Whatever
seniority you may have is of little consequence at this stage of you
career.

If you're unattached the decision is yous to make and should be
simple. However, if you married you and your wife have a lot to
consider.

Remember that just because you apply for the transfer doesn't mean
you'll get it!

Name: ME
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 September 2009

I got this the other day please tell what should i do??   PERMANENT
TRANSFER TO CORBIN/LOYALL, KY OR SELKIRK, NY

THE COMPANY IS OFFERING TO ALL CSXT TRAIN SERVICE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE IN
ACTIVE SERVICE ON AUGUST 27, 2009, ON THE DATE OF THIS BULLETIN,
(INCLUDING FURLOUGHED STATUS) AT THE ABOVE CSXT LOCATIONS LISTED AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PERMANENTLY TRANSFER TO CORBIN/LOYALL, KY OR SELKIRK,
NY.

VACANCIES BEING FILLED BY THIS TRANSFER NOTICE:

LOCATION              DISTRICT

CORBIN/LOYALL, KY     L&N CONSOLIDATED KENTUCKY
SELKIRK, NY           CR NORTHERN

CONSISTENT WITH THE NEEDS OF SERVICE, CSXT RESERVES THE RIGHT TO
RESTRICT THE LOCATIONS TRAINMEN ARE SELECTED FROM, AND TO LIMIT THE
NUMBER OF TRANSFERS WHICH WILL BE GRANTED. APPLICATIONS WILL BE
ACCEPTED FROM CSXT TRAIN SERVICE EMPLOYEE IN ACTIVE SERVICE (INCLUDING
FURLOUGHED STATUS) FROM ALL LOCATIONS AND FROM THE CLASS OF SERVICE
SPECIFIED.

APPLICANTS MUST BE APPLYING FOR A MOVE OUTSIDE OF THEIR CURRENT
SENIORITY DISTRICT.

APPLICANTS WILL BE SELECTED BY LOCATION IN SENIORITY ORDER.  HOWEVER,
THE CARRIER RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REJECT APPLICANTS IF THEY HAVE ANY
FORMAL DISCIPLINE ASSESSED IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS UNDER EITHER IDPAP OR
THE ABSENTEEISM POLICY.

TRAINMEN WHO ACCEPT THIS OFFER WILL FORFEIT HIS/HER CURRENT SENIORITY
AND WILL CONTINUE AT PRESENT RATE PROGRESSION LEVEL FOR PAY PURPOSES
AND VACATION ENTITLEMENTS ONLY ON THE NEW DISTRICT.

TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF PERMANENT TRANSFER:

1. RELINQUISH ALL OPERATING CRAFT SENIORITY, INCLUDING CONDUCTOR/
   TRAINMEN, ENGINEER/FIREMEN AND YARDMASTER.

2. ESTABLISH TRAINMAN'S SENIORITY AT THE NEW TERRITORY UPON THE FIRST
   DATE OF QUALIFYING ON THE NEW TERRITORY AND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
   ROSTER AND BEHIND ANY CURRENT TRAINEES.

3. RETAIN YEARS OF SERVICE FOR VACATION ENTITLEMENTS.

4. BE PAID TO QUALIFY ON THE NEW TERRITORY FOR UP TO 30 DAYS.

5. RECEIVE ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION PER THE FOLLOWING SCHEDULE;
     $1,000 UPON PROOF OF ARRIVING AT THE NEW LOCATION
     $2,000 UPON QUALIFYING ON THE NEW TERRITORY
     $4,000 12 MONTHS AFTER QUALIFYING
     $3,000 24 MONTHS AFTER QUALIFYING

6. APPLICANTS SELECTED FOR TRANSFER MUST REMAIN AT THE LOCATION THEY
   ARE CHOSEN FOR, SENIORITY PERMITTING, FOR TWO (2) YEARS.  DURING
THE
   TWO YEAR PERIOD, THE EXERCISING OF SENIORITY TO ANOTHER
CONSOLIDATED
   SENIORITY DISTRICT LOCATION IS ONLY PERMISSIBLE WHEN AN
APPLICANT'S
   SENIORITY DOES NOT PERMIT THEM TO REMAIN EMPLOYED AT THE INITIAL
   SUPPLY POINT.

7. REPORT TO THE NEW LOCATION WITHIN 10 DAYS OF NOTIFICATION.

8. IF A VOLUNTARY SEPARATION PROGRAM IS OFFERED IN YOUR NEW SENIORITY
   DISTRICT AT SOME FUTURE DATE AND YOU REQUEST SEPARATION (AND SUCH
   REQUEST IS ACCEPTED BY THE COMPANY), THE COMPANY MAY DEDUCT ALL
   TRANSFER PAYMENTS RECEIVED UNDER THIS AGREEMENT FROM SUCH FUTURE
   SEPARATION AGREEMENT.

9. BE PROVIDED MEAL ALLOWANCE (NOT TO EXCEED $12.00 PER DAY) AND
   COMPANY PROVIDED LODGING FOR THIRTY (30) DAYS.

10.BE ENTITLED TO CARRIER-PROVIDED LODGING FOR 30 DAYS.  LODGING AT
THE
   AWAY TERMINALS WILL BE PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE
   LABOR AGREEMENT.

NOTE: IN THE EVENT AN EMPLOYEE RECEIVES THE BENEFITS UNDER THIS NOTICE
AND DOES NOT REMAIN AT THE LOCATION TO WHICH HE TRANSFERRED BY HIS OWN
ELECTION FOR A PERIOD OF TWO (2) YEARS, HE WILL BE REQUIRED TO
REIMBURSE THE COMPANY FOR THE MONETARY TRANSFER ALLOWANCES PAID TO HIM.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 September 2009

Lloyd

I'm not disagreeing. Corporations will do anything to keep their upper
management. Their justification is if they don't they'll leave. Look
at the scandals that occurred when the bail-out money was doled out and
gigantic bonuses were given. Most Americans felt who gives a crap if
these bonuses were part of a previous package deal and the corporations
could face lawsuits. Unfortunately a lot of the federal judges today
were appointed by republican presidents over the past 29 years most
likely they would side with the upper management employee against the
corporation. If it was just the opposite a hourly wage employee they
would side with the corporation. A class war had developed and still
continues. The only ones that can secure employment for us as contract
workers is the union. The union had secured a deal with the UP to
gaurentee those furloughed enough work to keep their benefits intact.
We do not have a one on one relationship with CSX like those in
management. Our allegences are to the union who secures our wages and
benefits. That is where it ends up.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 September 2009

Pissed StockHolder

Sounds just like another Safety Suckoff Cookout, just at a higher
level.

I bet the new trainmasters got new kneepads.  Lets get a big reward for
the best picture of management at the new functions.

Name: Sam the Slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 September 2009

Plantation owner always wins, Sam always looses. 

CSX is no different.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 September 2009

Lloyd:

CSX can afford to pay the contract employees guarantee...they just
can't afford to pay both contract employees guarantee and management
bonuses. Who wins?

Name: Lord SuckaLot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 September 2009

My Dear RRJ,

I am sorry if I have offended you in any way. 

I will gladly come over and lick your balls if it will make you feel
any better. (it sure will make me feel better, you handsome devil!) 

Sincerly, 

Lord SuckaLot, 
CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 September 2009

It's September 3, 2009.....and CSX STILL SUCKS!

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 September 2009

RRJ the problem I have is that if the railroad can't afford to pay
guarantee for employees they will need down the road, then how do they
find the kind of cash to throw around to all the higher ups in this
company?  If I am a CEO I'd never want to dish out money for guys who
sit around all day on an extra board but I'd also take into
consideration that if people who work for my company are laid off..NO
ONE and I mean NO ONE including myself would recieve any perks or
bonuses while that was going on.  I'm not real sure who has control of
who gets what in this company but they ought to be bitch slapped for
their idiotic actions.  Morale of the story RRJ, no one should be
furloughed if this company can afford to hand out bonuses to anyone.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 September 2009

To the idiot who keeps posting garbage thinking he's funny I can assure
you, your not. I definitely don't appreciate you stating I'm correct
with your warped interpatation of my post. The difference between
management and railroaders is we are union contract employees. Middle
management and even those higher up are just here for the moment times
change then management gets the boot. I've been through corporate
reconstruction starting with Chessie System to CSX more times than I
can remember. I'm still here.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 September 2009

Lloyd

I didn't defend anyone definitely not CSX. People can spin anything to
their favor such as comparing corporate greed to furloughs. The fact is
furloughs have been a part of railroading since the begining. Read what
I wrote it stated railroads are no different than the rest of corporate
America. The same corporate America that has placed this country in
financial ruins. Somewhere some how our system has failed us the lack
of goverment regulations let the fox control the hen house. We ended up
with the likes of Enron which unfortunately was just the tip of the
iceberg. The Republican cry of smaller goverment starting with Ronald
Raygun and continued thru George Bush led us to this point. Your
looking at one point furloughed railroaders but a lot of major
industries are in worse shape. Till production gets back on track
trains will sit idle. The railroads can't afford to load down
gaurenteed extra boards if the work doesn't justify it. In fact they
already have boards loaded down paying out big gaurentees trying to
keep some working till the economy rebounds. The problem was they over
hired in anticipation of retirements and rising diesel cost which were
shifting freight from trucks to railroads. Unfortunately the economy
took a nose dive which hasn't been seen since the 1930's with the
Great Depression. With all this so-called modern technology it
wouldn't of been difficult to ween their hiring at every location to
actual retirement dates seeing our birth dates are on seniority
rosters. I'm tired of reading misinformation trying to find fault in
areas where it doesn't belong. I'm not justifying what some concieve
as corporate excentricities. That's just part of the ways corporations
in America do business. The only ones who can make change is a rebellion
of the stockholders. I can tell you it's not going to happen as a
stockholder CSX stock has risen over 60% in the past 5 months so has
the other class 1 railroad stocks. Fortunately for me I took my entire
401K and bought CSX this past March when it bottomed out at $23.84 a
share. I'm just a small fry compared to the major market players. Read
the Wall Street journal or listen to Jim Cramer on MSNBC they love Mike
Ward and CSX as employees we aren't even in the equation.

Name: Lord SuckaLot
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 September 2009

Please please please. Stop the squabbling. It is a matter of right that
management receives large bonuses in times of economic hardship for the
little people. We are just not the same breed you and I. 

RRJ is correct, there is no connection between executives and the union
rank and file. Big difference - executives are critical to the running
of the railroad and the much less important crafts are not.  You see,
the Executive peron is a blue chipper and very important to running the
railroad, and the latter blue collar beer drinker is not.  Simple logic
if you know what I mean. Therefore, executives are entitled to bonuses
for managing and directing the railroad, and you blue collar workers
arent really needed at all. heck I could do your job for free its so
simple. 

Raises?   What raises? That is no longer a contract term. 

Sincerely, 
Lord SuckaLot, CSX handmaiden of God.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 September 2009

Pissed stockholder,


You've got to be kidding me!!! If upper management sucks at their
performance so bad that they cant give the real workers in the trenches
who make this rr run a decent bonus, then how in the hell can they
afford to send these so called "upper management" supervisors off to
play and spend the corporate money on ballgames, booze and gambling.
This is NOT...NOT...NOT.... and I repeat NOT an incentive. There is no
word to describe what this action is. There is not enough foul words to
describe it!  I have a suggestion....Start following them around 24/7
with their little e-val sheets and start grading them. Give them 3
failures,call them downtown for an investigation, threaten them with
days overhead and then if that doesnt work kick them to the curve!
Whats fair for the goose, is fair for the gander! I dont know about you
but I think my performance is just fine. I get their freight across the
road and back. Im doing my part. So what the hell is wrong with them!

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 September 2009

RRJ, seriously?  You don't see how someone can make a comparison
between men out of work and corporate big wigs getting more
compensation?  Come on RRJ you are smarter than that aren't you? The
more people the company cuts off, the less money they shell out.  Sure
the economy is down, but if that is your reasoning as to why men are
out of work, then why do the men in charge still get huge bonuses and
perks?  It kind of goes hand in hand with the same people who think the
big oil companies aren't fucking everyone when they can.  Gas goes up,
gas goes down, one little scare over there in the sand box and that
gives the oil companies the right to ram it in our ass?  RRJ you may
know more than I ever will about your contract issues, hell even being
a railroader, but for you to come on here and defend the actions of
these greedy low life fucks is amazing.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 September 2009

I don't see the comparison between management incentives and furloughs.
Furloughs at times are an unfortunate reality in a new railroaders
carreer it's all about the economy. It's time to quit blaming
railroad management for acting like every other corporation in America.
The greed factor has and will be a part of the equation. When the BLET
and CSX entered into the Single System Agreement in 2007 which was
voted on by a pathetic 51% membership voter response winning by 400
votes it left CSX open to explore other avenues of compensation other
than monetary bonuses. Which will have an effect on future bonus
payments. It's pathetic that The BLET has once again cowtowed to CSX
by retricting bonus payment adjustments by freezing them to 12% for the
life of the agreement/on-property contract for 5 years till 2014 with a
insulting actual daily pay rate increases of only 16% during it's
life. Engineers are now the lowest paid person in transportation with
no hope of catching up under any on-property agreement. We have not had
any significant increase in our daily wage since 2004. CSX and
especially the BLET sold a bag of goods that were an illusion the 3%
daily increase in the 2007 SSA we lost mysteriously under the national
contract because the Harris COLA paid in 2005-2006 was deducted from
the SSA wage increase. The work rule agreements which unfortunately are
here to stay have been consistantly violated by CSX. Like what I've
read in other sites the minority oldhead doesn't care we can live
under any contract.  It's those that are the voter majority those with
10 years an longer that should be worried. Their the ones who'll be
stuck with stagnant wages during times where everything will
continuiosly increase because of inflation beyond their wage increases.
The Rail Safety Act also can put a damper on your paycheck. The only
true sign of keeping up with inflation is an actual hourly wage
increase under the snapback to the national. You're not going to
accomplish it with a bonus that may or may not pay out. Something the
BLET doesn't bother to explain is that by the time 2014 comes around
the national increase will surpass the CSX bonus program. The
arguements of the national contract being derailed is a smoke screen to
scare people it may take 2 years to get a contract but you'll recieve
COLA adjustments every year. I've been through the good and bad times
in my 32 years we always got a fairly decent daily wage increase in the
end under the national even during the turbulent Raygun era between
1980-1992.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 September 2009

Just another example of why so many guys are laid off right now so the
company can give incentives to the upper echelon employees while
sticking it to the under 5 year employees.  This is the same kind of
shit that goes on everywhere in this country anymore though and nothing
gets done about it.  The really sad part about it is though...if this is
true..no union or stockholders board will stand up and do anything about
it.  Every one gets a piece of the pie so they all look the other way
and brush it under the rug.  Until we get rid of all the pieces of shit
running this organization this will continue.  I hope they all rot in
hell personally.

Name: Pissed Stockholder
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 September 2009

NEWS FLASH:

Seems that CSX has adopted it's performance bonus program from one
that was developed by the NS. When corporate officials did not want to
pay the hard working blue collar workers their bonus they would simply
tell them that the supervisors were not getting theirs either. However,
that was not the case. Upper corporate officials came up with a program
that was called team building training.
Those officials who were supposed to get bonuses and didn't would be
sent off on excursions were they received ample "compensation"
instead.

Latest info that has been received is that csx has the same program up
and running. Seems that a "TEAM" of upper level management were sent
to ST. Louis for a team building exercise. They went to a ballgame and
then spent the remaining time at the riverboat where all expenses were
paid( including food and alcohol) and each member was given an ample
amount of spending money to gamble with. The month of august was not so
lucrative for the team. Word is they went to Louisville to attend a
paintball exercise.  So, where do employees sign up for this program in
lieu of getting that so called "Bonus"?  Im suggesting that this
question be brought forward at the next annual stockholders meeting.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 August 2009

NoMo

I've been through a lot of N.Carolina it's a beautiful state. I
remember long ago a friend and I loaded up the cooler with beer and a
few rolled substances then traveled around looking for the mythical
Mayberry using Pilot Mountian (Mount Pilot) as the center searching in
a 50 mile radious. I've been up Blue Ridge Parkway from Waynesboro, Va
to Cherokee, NC. Asheville is nice it's gotten expensive log homes a
few years ago were starting at $400,000 plus with a view of your
neighbors. I'm looking for solitude. It shouldn't be to difficult to
find.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 August 2009

Hey RRJ:

North Carolina...Ever been to Highlands or Cashiers? Both are only
about 130 miles from Atlanta. Asheville wouldn't be bad either.

There's some nice spots in N.E Alabama like Mentone which is in the
mountains. About 115 miles from Birmingham and Atlanta and 50 miles
from Chattanooga

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 August 2009

Just Google the towns it'll give you all the info. Corbin has around
7800 people living in it with 17,558 in the urban surroundings. The
Cumberland & Daniel Boone National Forest plus 11 miles out of town is
Laurel River Lake with 212 miles of shoreline. It's the home of
Colenel Sanders of Kentucky Fried Chicken fame. Someone from there will
have to answer the work question. If their offering permanent transfers
and you're furloughed with no end in site for a while I'd jump on it.
I'm sure cost of living is reasonable compared to big cities. If I was
young I'd put in for it. Sounds like a good place to live raise a
family buy some land put up a log cabin plant a garden do some fishing
and hunting. I'm looking for a retirement spot N.Carolina is high on
the list maybe I'll check out Kentucky and Tennessee.

Name: JCD
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 August 2009

Anyone in Corbin and Loyall, Ky.  I saw where there are perminate
transfers into those areas and would like a little info.  Are there any
furloughs at these terminals. If someone came in, would they be able to
work regular.  How would describe these towns? Are they in the
mountains. Any info would be greatly apperciated.   Thanks and have a
safe day.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 August 2009

Hey Trainmaster <1:

If you think worring about losing your job causes stress...I offer this
for your consideration!

            http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89b_1251461295

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 August 2009

Have a Good CSX Day

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090828/sc_livescience/jobinsecurityworseforyourhealththanunemployment

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 August 2009

Hello, I haven't been on here for awhile. I was wondering if anyone has
heard anything more about the guys that are furloughed in the russell
yard? I've been off now for 6 months and just wondering if they may be
calling anymore back.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 August 2009

Hey Steve:

At the risk of repeating myself, it is unnecessary to post the same
comments under each topic!

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 August 2009

Dear Sam- 

As a follow up, as I said I would, I emailed the two lawyers on
exposure RT claims and both responded that they have each handled 
cancer and brain tumor type cases from long term exposure to diesel and
other carcinogen cases and would definitely look at taking these type
claims.

I hope that, with the above, all your inquiries have been answered.

Take care,

Steve

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 August 2009

My, how white of them!


CSX offers one-day demurrage relief 

CSX has announced that during the Labor Day holiday, the carrier “is
giving one day of demurrage relief," the Jacksonville, Fla., Examiner
reports.

All merchandise traffic covered by the CSXT 8100 Tariff will get one
additional unloading credit provided for Sept. 7.

The September billing statements will reflect the demurrage relief.

CSX will have limited service from Sunday, Sept. 6, through Monday,
Sept. 7, in observance of the Labor Day holiday.

(This item appeared Aug. 27, 2009, in the Jacksonville Examiner.)
A

Name: JASON
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 August 2009

I am posting this for the new bees who think they have it so tough on
the road, When i first hired in the 70,s we had bunk houses to take
rest at away from home terminals, Most were run by the YMCA ha ha what
a joke that was, A lot of them were set up like army barracks ya know a
bunch of guys sleeping in one big room with only a cloth curtain between
the bunks, The body noises were discusting to say the least, And the
wash rooms were also the same as a army boot camp barracks, 20 sinks in
a row and 20 toliets in a row and a the shower room was the same, 1 big
room with 20 shower heads so we could all see each other naked,, Yea
talk about no personal privacy on the railroad, Well thats how it was
ditto, And yes it sucked, I was the most happy person on the rr when
they closed those discusting filty rat holes and thats what they were
and some did not even have AC..... Yea man good ole railroading at its
best???? I should have slept in a box car, At least i would have had
some privacy.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 August 2009

Evidently Mr. Gordon can't take a hint!

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 August 2009

Name: Sam the Slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 August 2009

Steve,

What would you classify as a "seriously injured" railroad employee?
(are you including diseases, psyche, toxic chemical exposure?)

Can you give specific examples of particular injuries or cases you
have
in mind?

How does the "loan to seriously injured employees" program work?
(what happens if the firm looses at trial?)

Has your firm had trial experience?  

Thanks. 

Sam
----------------------------

Dear Sam-

Thank you for your questions. I will address each of your questions
individually.

Question:What would you classify as a "seriously injured" railroad
employee?(are you including diseases, psyche, toxic chemical
exposure?)Can you give specific examples of particular injuries or
cases you havein mind?

Answer: Quite frankly all the discussions with the two lawyers as to
the types of injuries have all been involved around orthopedic injuries
in nature and have not involved exposure type situations. After I post
this, I will ask them. However, the types of injuries that have been
discussed, and that I know they have an expertise in, range from disk
herniations to the cervical and/or lumbar spine caused from whole body
vibration (WBV); knee & ankle wear and tear from uneven ballast or
ballast that should be smaller in size rather than larger; shoulder
repetitive trauma seen, for example, in switchmen; and carpal & ulnar
(elbow) tunnel syndrome. By the term "seriously injured", it is meant
that the person cannot return back to his craft.

Question: How does the "loan to seriously injured employees" program
work? (what happens if the firm looses at trial?.

Answer: In some states, it is permissible for an attorney to actually
advance monies to clients while the client's case is pending to pay
"necessaries". Necessaries can mean food, shelter, and other staples.
In these cases, the lawyers sit down with the client and review the
client's bills and there previous income. The advances, in the case of
Gordon & Elias, L.L.P. are mad interest free and without recourse. That
is, if the client does not receive money from the claim, they have no
obligation to pay it back. It is, in essence, considered like all the
other expenses put out in the prosecution of the client's case. There
is no obligation for a lawyer to do this and the hiring of a lawyer
should not be based upon this. It is simply, we believe an added
benefit of being a Gordon & Elias client. If the firm loses at trial,
there is no obligation to pay it back. It is, in the trues sense: "No
recovery....then no fees or expenses are paid".

Question: Has your firm had trial experience? 

Answer: Gordon & Elias has never tried a cumulative case as we have
NEVER taken one and, absent these two lawyers, would not begin now.
Each of these two lawyers have tried cumulative/repetitive trauma
claims in many states and, perhaps more importantly, have successfully
handled and settled MANY cumulative cases. For me personally, I have
only had to try one FELA case to  verdict. As with all personal injury
cases, the key to "winning" is working as hard as one can in the
"discovery" phase of the case to make the railroad (or whoever the
defendant is) believe that, if they go to trial, they will lose and
they will lose significantly. IF there is not a reasonable settlement
offer, then you should go to trial and make sure to show up sober
(Joke!). But, if you work up the case properly, the case should settle.
Remember this- "There's never a horse that's never been rode and
there's never been a man that's never been throwed". Translation= A
reasonable settlement offer should be accepted because you never know
what a jury will do for sure. Lawyers that say they have never lost a
case at trial, simply (1) have not tried a lot of cases or (2) are
lying. I have lost cases I should have won and won cases I should have
lost and all in between.

The issue with cumulative/trauma claims are that the railroads must
take the posture they are BS. Because, if they do not, they are afraid
the floodgates of litigation will overcome them. No question the
railroads have had "personal" knowledge that, for instance, the
engine vibration and the seats cause vibration spinal injuries. The
lawyers we have teamed up with have all they relevant documents to
prove this and they do not have to "re-invent" the wheel as they were
some of the few lawyers that invented the wheel to begin with (at least
as to repetitive claims.

I hope this email answers your questions.

Steve

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 August 2009

Conductor/Engineer authority.

Nice banter back and forth. Real world is a lot different. New Engineer
and Old Conductor, or reverse that Old Engineer and New Conductor. The
Conductor should just takes the radio no need to ask, they are just
there to assist, and make things run smoothly. There are times when the
engineer need's a few more hands and they are not there. 

The conductor will always call the shot's, not only for the train but
also the locomotives. No engineer will move on a stop signal from a
Conductor, or other ground employee

In my few years on the RR I had no trouble slowing or stopping any
Engineer with a hand signal. Now getting them moving was a totally
different story. Some would run silly and many would barely move. Gosh
they would stop and slow for a fly on the windshield. Had that brake in
hand all of the time. As I think back it was lack of training. I was
riding with all types and they were only riding with themselves. They
never knew.

Today is different the Conductor is up front.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 August 2009

Hey Steve Gordon:

Please refrain from making the same post under every, or almost every
topic. We read them all...they're almost as annoying as the TV ads for
the Goldwater firm!

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 August 2009

Dear All- 

I am proud to announce to you that the our firm has partnered with two
totally separate law firms for the sole purpose of handling what is
called repetitive or cumulative trauma [RT FELA Claims] FELA claims.
Historically, the firm of Gordon & Elias, L.L.P., has only allowed
itself to be hired for "one time" FELA traumatic events. This is true
for two reasons: (1) First, we have always thought that, if we cannot do
the best job possible for the injured worker, then we did not want to
allow ourselves to be hired by them. I can tell you the RT FELA claims,
even though they are asserted under FELA, are, in fact, very difficult
to develop and it is required, in our opinion, to have a level of
expertise that we did not have. Some lawyers simply take everything
that walks in the door but in the end that does not, we feel anyway,
benefit the client; and (2) the client gets what we feel is very
important and that is what we call the Gordon & Elias, L.L.P.
experience. Specifically, they get the cell phones of the lawyers that
are handling their claim and, where ethically permitted to do so,
Gordon & Elias advances them money on their case interest free. This is
a very large commitment but, we feel, is a necessary commitment so the
worker can pay their bills during the pendency of the claim. We have
always thought that the most seriously injured claimants want to make a
claim but, because of their economic responsibilities, cannot afford to
do it. 

The two lawyers are in separate areas of the United States and that
means their experience is each limited to specific railroads. The CSX
"expert" is David Lockard and we are exceedingly proud that he has
chosen us to work with. We will work with him in all cases where G&E is
hired and that will provide, in essence, two law firms on the client's
case for the same attorneys' fee as one firm. This, we feel is also a
benefit to the client for many obvious reasons.

There you have it and if someone has any further questions, please feel
free to call me directly at 1-800-773-6770. I hope no one ever needs our
services but, if you do, we would respectfully ask that you at least
give us a chance to explain why we feel we would be your best choice.

Sincerely,

Steve Gordon

Name: Sam the Slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 August 2009

Train crews are mostly very reasonable with each other when it comes to
getting the job done.  A little bitching and moaning here and there
sometimes, but that is normal for any job anywhere. 

Conductors basicly conduct the switching operations of the train -
engineers get input, but ultimately it is the conductor who is in
charge and who makes the tie breaker decision if one needs to be made -
I accept that....its my role, no problem.  Basically, everyone gets
input, works together to get the job done, and goes home.  

Probably less than 1/10th of 1% of jobs have engineers over-riding
conductor decisions, usually on safety concerns (like drop kicking
loaded LPG tanks on top of loaded coal cars would be a no-no).

Now, when it comes to socializing, it would be my decision never to 
leave a conductor alone with my girlfriend - they can be on occassion a
bunch of howling horndogs.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 August 2009

I've never designated/ordered anyone to do anything when it boiled down
to switching cars or working an industry. People are only as smart as
the way they were taught. I even call signals. My statement of ordering
anyone only came about if it was a blatant case of someone refusing to
do their job. I could care less if someone wants to procrastinate the
work if it doesn't directly affect the public like intentionally
blocking crossings. I also will be more than willing to explain to any
official the circumstances regardless of the aftermath to the other
person if it goes that far. We get paid to do a job nothing more
nothing less. I'm not here to baby sit anyone. Like someone else
stated a little less 90% of the people I've worked with have never
been anything but professional. We all have the right to question
unprofessional behavior.

Name: Binheer2lonf
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 August 2009

For Dispr 30+

Dispatchers cut off at various locations is in fact quite rare because
of economic anomilies. The last two cutbacks I remember were when all
the system divisions were consolidated twenty years ago into the
Centeralized Center in Jax and again when CSX sent all the dispatchers
back to the field within the past couple of years to the division
levels. 

These were pure sham economics to keep from paying moving expenses to
the most effected (affected).

There was also one brief interruption during a coal mine strike in West
Virginia about 30 years ago when some dispatchers were temporarily cut
off, but they had clerical or other seniority to fall back on. 

Do these new cutoffs have the right to exercise seniority to other
divisions? Can they go back to Jacksonville? What has their Union
worked out for them to survive? Does a section 6 review apply to this
situation? I know that their contract is quite vague in its language
reguarding this sort of circumstance. There was a clause that addressed
"additions and deletions" of territories that could allow for several
seniority moves! 

Where does their Union stand on consolidating jobs?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 August 2009

Designate, order, end result is the same.  If an engineer wants you to
handle the radio, then you do it.  Play games all you want, but you do
it.  I've never "designated" a conductor to do anything, but if they
want to play games, I can do that to.  Believe me, an engineer can make
a conductors life a lot more miserable than the other way around.  You
new conductors, it is in your best interests to listen to anyone with
experience.  You may be the boss (sometimes laughable), and if you
insist on playing games, then the time will come where you will be
soaked playing your games.  I'll be dry.  99.9% of the conductors
I've worked with are all good.  They help me and I help them.  The way
it should be.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 August 2009

Sounds like you have the little man syndrome and don't have a clue how
to work with people. Don't you think there are enough problems without
making childish statements about the ones we work with.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 August 2009

Engineer 30+ you are correct, the engineer can DESIGNATE the conductor
to call signals, I use my handset and set up feedback on his radio then
he gives up.

Name: Jim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 August 2009

You guys are losers. CSX isn't a bad railroad. Every single company in
the world (including every single railroad) has its mistakes, flaws,
errors, accidents, etc. Why make fun of CSX? They're not bad. If you
want to talk about a bad railroad, talk about Canadian National(CN).
They have derailments almost weekly and have abandoned 3000 miles of
track since 1992. They are also the cause of at least one VIA Rail
accident which claimed 2 lives. CN is the one that sucks, not CSX.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 August 2009

Hey RRJ:

The best thing about getting older is being able to tell you
wife..."not tonight" and mean it!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 August 2009

Engineers can order the conductor to handle the radio transmissions. 
Check your CSX rule book.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 August 2009

The engineer is responsible for operating the engine...the conductor
is responsible for the cars. If it gets down to ordering, it's time to
pull the big red handle and call the Dispatcher!

I've asked engineers to slow down because the fog was so thick I
couldn't see (he wasn't over the limit and didn't have to slow down
but he did as a courtesy) and I've reminded just called up engineers
of the speed limit concerning empties (he called his chum to check the
rule rather than looking in his rule book).

Not everyone is meant for road service!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 August 2009

Average Joe

Getting older I've learned tolerance. That's probabley the best thing
about getting older. All I can tell you is nothing is gaurenteed in
life. We go with the hand we're dealt and make the best situation. I
still detest your use of the "N" word. I've heard people make
excuses of it's use as referring that it means lazy, unintelligent
ect...not so anymore it's definition is one of a racial slur. If 400
blacks and 2 whites apply for 2 job openings you still question who'll
get one? You still posted on every thread on this site like we didn't
read it the first time. Quit the pity party act like a man.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 August 2009

Cond 20-30

I guess you don't know me. I've ordered a few conductors to get up
off their lazy arses when the situation needed it. An engineer takes
instructions from a conductor never orders except the paper kind.

Name: average joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 August 2009

rrj

i really dont think i am a racist brother i just know that the job
market that i applied in well that town has a collective african
amrican count of 3 in the entire population so yes that is why i said
the things i did 
no i got the job and was never called kinda felt like i was all dressed
up and no where to go you know so no im not racist until it comes to a
large corp. trying to get there affermitave action quetes off of my
small town

all you guys reading black and white know its an insult to us all if a
person gets a job because of their race

black people dont want to pull the race card just niggers
black people have skills and are just as ashamed as thier nigger
counterparts as we white people are of our trailer trash white people

all im say is if there was two white guys in bibs interviewing 400+ 
black men and 2 white men for 2 jobs who do you think they would pick
if you were a black man tryin to get a job in a white town

that is how i felt they i got the congratulations letter lol
well give you a job 
BULLSHIT 
so yes csx does suck 
from tennessee 
all the fuckin way to lakeland florida

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 August 2009

As information, the train dispr does not do the downloading.  The signal
dept is the one who runs the log to see if the dispr knocked the signal
down or a track light, lighting strike, comp problem or a train running
a red board caused the signal to drop...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 August 2009

Engineer 30 +
  I don't think you work for CSX. Engineers can not oreder the
conductor to do anything, it is the other way around.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 August 2009

Every state law is different. In Virginia a stationary train can not
block a crossing for more than 5 minutes. The crossing must be cut to
allow for traffic. It would seem the train crew wasn't doing their
job. The only exceptions would be if a train went into emergency then
the conductor would be walking it or a grade crossing/trespasser
accident. One other scenario that I can think of if a signal drops in
your face. I blocked 3 crossings last time it happened to me with
strict orders not to move while the Train Dispatcher downloaded the
computer this was at 1700 while people were getting off work heading
home. I've ordered conductors to cut crossings only after they threw
temper tantrums refusing to do their job.

Name: Sam The Slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 August 2009

I dont know RRJ.....maybe railroad crossing accidents (federal
jurisdiction) are different than a situation where trains unreasonably
block crossings which impede the travel of emergency vehicles or other
highway traffic commerce. 

Here is a list of State laws governing railroads and railroad trains
that block crossings: 

 http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/safety/cross_chp3.pdf

Article on blocked crossing & local ordincance offense:

http://www.angelsontrack.org/cts/pub19.html

Here is an article from the FRA with FAQ on blocked crossings: 

http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/PubAffairs/FRA_Blocked_Highway_Rail_Grade_Crossing_Fact_Sheet.pdf

In an anticipated emergency situation (e.g.where track a been washed
out) it would not be illegal for the citizenry to flag and stop
approaching trains to warn of impending danger. Ergo,  would it not be
just as legal for the citizenry to flag approaching trains to warn then
of upcoming emergency routes that cross their tracks, and to avoid
blocking them - or if the train needs to remain stationary in town
(e.g. switching) that the train be cut at the crossing to allow
emergency and other commerce to cross the tracks without delay?
If it is legal for citizens to protect a train crew from injury, isn't
it just as legal for the citizens to protect themselves from injury
(like avoiding having some one die in an ambulance at a blocked
crossing, or avoid blocking a fire truck from responding to a fire and
saving lives and property?). 
 

Removal of crossing tracks is a bit drastic, and may or may not be
"legal" depending on the circumstances, but it gets the message
across to the railroads - and if someone died in an ambulance at a
blocked crossing, I could see an outraged public doing exactly that, if
not worse. 

I can personally understand the guy's concerns - if it were a member
of my family in critical condition who died in an ambulance at a
blocked crossing while trying to get to the hospital - well, the bible
says an eye for an eye, and raw emotion being what it is, I would
definately be looking for the train crew AND the TM for my eye.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 August 2009

Tracks and the right of way on the railroads fall under the federal
goverments jurisdiction not the city/town. Example grade crossing
accidents we are not obligated to give statements to local law
enforcement. We have to remain silent until railroad officials are
present even to the point of being arrested for so-called hampering an
investigation. Railroads took the land under eminant domain laws that
were in effect which still excist. Example the state wants to build a
new highway your property is smack dab in the middle they make you an
offer you can't refuse. You can stall hoping for more money which may
work but if it ends up in court most likely you'll lose. I've seen
that happen. Only recourse go a city/town hall meeting an express your
concerns.

Name: Sam the Slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 August 2009

I'ver always wondered about this. 

Management Ops is the bad guy here. Cut off all the trainmen, and watch
how ridiculously inefficient train handling becomes.  

Well, seems to me that the actual portion of track that crosses the
town's crossing is actually owned by the town - simply remove the
rails at the crossing - after all, it's the city's right of way and
their road, and their town. 

CSX has enough money to build a bridge, and/or re-route traffic around
the town - or put an extra man on the train to cut the crossing and
allow traffic to pass. It aint rocket science.  

Of course, it would be simpler if management would stop riding the
backs of skeleton train crews to perform the feat of supermen.  Nope.
Gotta get those switches in on time - or Mr. Boss man comes down with
his lynching rope lookin fer fresh necks to hang. 

Remove the tracks at the crossing, dis-connect and dis-mantle the
signals.  Kick their ass out of town.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 August 2009

I live in a small town in Tennessee - Pegram - and CSX is running all
over us.  There are some intersections where they block it for long
periods of time - which is against town policy but CSX informs Pegram,
per the prior mayor, to just deal with it.  One day, an intersection at
Pegram Town Hall was blocked for several, several hours and people could
not pass.  An ambulance could not have gotten through if need be.  CSX
plan filed with Pegram stated they would block half of the intersection
at a time, but they blocked the entire thing for 3 days in a row,
putting sheet metal or something like that over it at night.

There is another intersection at the ball field that is constantly
blocked so the employees can go to Finch's for lunch.

We have made multiple calls to CSX, and are told ALL THE TIME that
someone will get back to us within 24-48 hours, and you never ever hear
back from them.

One day I was over 2 hours late for work because the train was stopped
on the tracks at Pegram Town Hall.  When you call the 1-800 number on
the sign, they stated there was a broken something and they were
walking the train over that part of the rails, but the train was
physically not moving, and the person on the telephone continued to
complain to me that it was moving slowly.

CSX does not care about the small towns and the problems and
inconveniences it causes to those who live in them.  They don't care
when they block the only way into or out of a neighborhood for
undetermined amounts of time.  They don't care that their employees
block intersections so they can get lunch.  

CSX is a big company that needs to be more courteous to the small
communities it operates through - it could not do what it is currently
doing without going through these small towns.

Name: Sam the Slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 August 2009

I Hear the Mastah been hangin nooses at Columbus Ohio. Trainmaster or
should I say slavemaster involved but of course that is being covered
up. Fired the messenger.....Keep shakin the bushes boys...what are you
gonna hide behind Massa Neal....A white sheet next????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 August 2009

Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 August 2009

4 dispatchers furloughed in Albany

4 dispatchers furloughed in Indianapolis

I don't know about Jax/Hun/Balt/Chicago...ect

but as one dispatcher said it "I haven't seen this in the 39 years"

T&E I know you all get furloughed (as I have been there)...but
dispatchers?  its getting bad folks.


Hey it is a domino effect just like anything else. I think in the past
that they have laid off in the normal slow season for t&e this isnt a
slow season it is a slow economy. There are less trains so normally
conductors get laid off. Next it ripples to crew management and
dispatchers because theres less trains to run and less to call and less
calling in. Just wait if this keeps up MW will take the next hit
followed by lower level managers and maby even ripple up the executive
line of the company, but they would actually probally just see pay cuts
just sit back and watch it will happen!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 August 2009

Pop's

There are to many morons that will vote in the extension for the SSA.
Even though some of the supporters in 2007 are having second thoughts
seeing CSX and our General Committees have both conspired to hamper any
positive aspects of the agreement. The GC's sold them a bill of goods
that wasn't deliverable. That makes no difference. Those that will
vote for it are to ignorant to realise the only loss is the bonus and
$10 of the engineer certification. They get to keep for now their meal
allowance, the 6 weeks vacation, the stock options for being good
children and working weekends ect...till they find out everything in
this agreement was an arbitrary which means non-binding for those who
don't know what that means. It's been like that since it was voted
in. Everything is subject to change.

Sonny

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 August 2009

Hey Freddie:

A recovery is still a ways off, probably after the first of the year.
Any positive news like first time unemployment claims or foreclosures
that come in under the estimate; corporate earning that beat the
estimate is enough to send the market up.

Your right, the consumers aren't buying anything and the manufactures
aren't building anything and I believe the foreclosure crisis has just
begun...so far it has just been homes, now we'll see the commercial
properties, malls, hotels and office building default.

Cash is King!

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 August 2009

Reality in the market is setting in.  The consumer isn't consuming,
hence, no bullshit from China to ship around and fill up landfills. 
The banks still have the toxic assets on the books, defaults on credit
cards are expanding.  Yep, I think the RR stocks have hit the wall.

I am not an expert, this is  just my opinion.  But hey, look what the
experts have done.
I come and go NoMo as far as this site.

Name: ht long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 August 2009

good god man the market knows there will be no strike its not allowed,
so if history keeps repeating itself.......you younger men will jump on
th ssa and in 4 yrs you will be making what the national is making
now........snap back......why do I bother?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 August 2009

CSX stock is just going with the flow. All railroad stocks have had a
significant increase the past 3 months. It has nothing to do with the
tenative extension of the SSA. The market needs transportation stocks
to show a rebound. It's a sign that things are moving picking up in
the manufacturing and distribution sectors. Transportation stocks are
like a gieger counter for the market.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2009

Hey Freddie:

Hadn't heard much from you lately...the market loves any news, good,
bad or indifferent. Stability is certainly a critical component as is a
happy labor force...wait, am I missing something? 

The price of CSX stock as hit it's point of resistance in my opinion.
Moving forward, any increase should be based on performance. Can
management pull a rabbit out of their hat or is the greed muscle
returning to Wall St.?

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 August 2009

NoMo, the stock of any company goes up when there is a tentative
agreement, no matter who is favored.  The market loves stability with a
company's labor force.  They like the news that there probably will be
no strike.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2009

Hey Other:

So what your beef and do you want some cheese with your whine?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2009

all the fuckin around on this web page is for abunch of whiners

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2009

Hey RRJ:

Yeah it's an abrupt change in lifestyle especially if your not
prepared for it...you'll come to appreciate not having to have a cell
phone, regular bed times and being able to do things at your leisure.

You've been off for a month now...not knowing what your future holds,
that's enough to make any body jittery. Buy the time you visit your
kids and decide where you're going to settle, the only thing left to
do will be to find out where the afternoon crowd hangs.

Didn't take Pops too long to adjust!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 August 2009

NoMo

I want to try going back to work. This isn't the way I wanted to end
it. I'm not going to force myself to hang in there at least I'm still
able to do somethings right now. I can live off the retirement that's
not a problem. It's more about going into a lifestyle far different
then anything I've been use to for 32 years. No holds barred. Heck you
get jittery sitting around doing nothing seeing you got use to waiting
on a phone call. Once it sinks in I'll adjust.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 August 2009

Today is Sunday August 16th, 2009.  Just marked off safety this morning,
I'm going ridin' today boys, have fun at work.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2009

Hey RRJ:

Arthritis can be extremely painful...I played contact sports for years,
worst injury I ever had was a dislocated finger...I thought. Years later
the arthritis set in, by 3PM I have a hard time moving. I can predict
the weather with a high degree of accuracy though.

32 years is long enough...especially if you'll be able to live on your
retirement. Might as well get out while you're still able to move
around to enjoy those years of toil.

I don't see CSX changing as long as Ward is in command or the unions
stepping up to bat.

I have spoken with several retired engineers and conductors recently
that have developed a condition called peripheral neuropathy which is a
intermittent numbness in your extremities, much like your foot being
asleep. The condition is usually but not always found in Diabetics.
These men are not diabetic and are convinced that years of slack action
caused their neuropathy. It makes me wonder if this might not be just
the tip of another asbestos ice berg!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 August 2009

NoMo

I think my railroad carreer is going to end the begining of next year.
I've been off medically since the early part of July. What I thought
was a rotator cup problem in my shoulder turned out to be arthritis.
We'll see everything will be determined on my ability to perform my
job at 100%. That includes finding a med that works a few years ago
Aleve, Advil, Tylenol ect... did the trick not so anymore. It doesn't
matter I had 32 years with the railroad. With the railroad constintly
changing it isn't appealing to want to go back. In fact it's gotten
worse since the FRA Rail Safety Law went into affect. CSX has stepped
up charging people for minor violations using investigations instead of
reprimands. The unions are doing nothing to stop it except bullschidt
useless lip service.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2009

Hey RRJ:

If I remember correctly, the proposed extension is for five years;
which is about as much time as you have until you hit the big 60. If
your career is coming to an end before you expected...that sounds
rather ominous, I hope I misunderstand.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 August 2009

NoMo

There is a tenative extension agreement for the CSX/BLET SSA. Not much
to tell. We have the option to extended it or opt out by Sept 15th and
resort to the national contract pay rates only giving up two items the
bonus and a $10 reduction in the engineer certification arbitrary. We
get to keep everything else especially the archaic work rules. I
didn't like the SSA in 2007 nothing changed oldheads are a minority
vote it's up to those with 10-30+ years left. It'll pass once again
CSX threw in giving anyone still under the progressive pay rate 100% if
they are licensed. This generation is still to young to see into the
future they only look at today. They haven't a clue about future
impact on current events. It doesn't matter my railroad life is coming
to a close in less time than I expected.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 August 2009

LE 10-20

Why don't you get a six pack take it to work and see if it's alright.
I find non-alcoholic beer to be like decaffinated coffee I want the
effect it has nothing to do with enjoying the taste. Seeing I don't
drink beer my big brains can't answer that question. If they made a
non-alcoholic Jim Beam or Absolute I definitely wouldn't drink it. I
hope this answered the stupid question for those of you who rode the
short bus to school.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 August 2009

4 dispatchers furloughed in Albany

4 dispatchers furloughed in Indianapolis

I don't know about Jax/Hun/Balt/Chicago...ect

but as one dispatcher said it "I haven't seen this in the 39 years"

T&E I know you all get furloughed (as I have been there)...but
dispatchers?  its getting bad folks.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 August 2009

RRJ,
  Since you know everything and you are an expert on all subjects,  I
have a question for you, do you think it would be ok to drink
O'Doul's non-alcoholic beer while running an engine?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 August 2009

Hey RRJ:

I saw where the carrier and the BLEt reached an agreement on a new
contract proposal. Hadn't heard much about it and there have not been
any comments on this site.

I can only conclude it favors the carrier based on what the stock price
did when CSX announced it...jumped up a couple of bucks a share!

The link below is a video on a group called "The Family". It runs
about 30 minutes and is quite sobering and gives some insight into the
fundamentalist agenda in Washington.

     http://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/12/sharlet

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 August 2009

It was the pawns of the oppressor's fault!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 August 2009

It's back. The webmaster must of been on vacation.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 August 2009

First off I never post on every section on this website. I'll make an
exception in this case. 

Average Joe

You say you're not racist. You used the "N" word right from the
start. You got hired then got furloughed. Join the club. Just about
everyone who got hired the past year some have been working longer
longer have been furloughed. It's the economy if you couldn't figure
that one out seeing you state you have a college degree. No, instead
you decided to rant and rave about if more blacks were at that hiring
session you wouldn't of got the job. 

I'm going to repeat something no one wants to read. When a lot of us
hired on the railroad we were furloughed at times. Some of us got
furloughed on a regular basis because of seasonal business. Some were
furloughed for years. It's not a new concept that the railroads have
devised like outsourcing and downsizing. It's a matter of waiting your
turn to get enough seniority till you can hold a regular job. Nothing
hidden in it, it's plain and simple. I guess it's a type of weeding
out those who'll stay and be dedicated and those who'll move on. 

All you did was join the pity party club. Those who feel how unfair it
is. Those who wish all those oldheads would retire. Staying on the
railroad is up to the individual either they can handle it or not it
doesn't make a difference to the railroad. Those that are furloughed
the statistics are only 10% will return. Maybe you belong to that club.

Name: average joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 August 2009

well we all sit back and take it in the ass 
i got a job with csx back in october and still no fuckin job
yeah two niggers interviewed me thank god there were any other brothers
there other than them or i wouldnt have even got the fuckin imaginary
job offer in the first place so here is what i say  fuck affirmative
action and fuck csx 
and all other companies and colleges who discriminate agianst white men
and women
dont act like you dont know
you have all seen it 
i know i come off as racist but i am really not all im sayin is that if
i was a black guy getting the job where i was supp0sed to go to work i
would have my fucking imaginary goddamn house paid for by now i guess
its my college that fuckin holds me back or the fact that my daddy
didnt work for the railroad i dont know
so there 
fuck it most of you all are well 
you knew someone so you got your job and fuck everybody else

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 August 2009

Hey Lloyd:

You're right about morale...happy employees make a big difference.

CSX should have high quality applicants lined up beating on the doors
looking for work; instead, the quality of applicants is questionable
and the turnover rate is sky high because of terminations and job
dissatisfaction.

The RR never has or never will be an easy life style. There are however
things the carriers could do, at little or no additional cost that would
mitigate most of these issues. In fact, most would
produce substantial savings! Unfortunately, to do this would require
creative thinking on management's part...fat chance! Ward and the
Board would have to commit to being the best most innovative carrier
operating and act accordingly.

First, in order to accomplish this goal, they would have to sell the
employees on their vision. However their track record speaks for
itself...the old adage, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice,
shame on me, comes to mind.

John Snow was in charge when I hired in in '01, not that morale was
anything to write home about then but by today's standards it was by
far better. Since Ward took the reins, morale has steadily decreased to
it's current point, the bottom of the barrel. This can be attributed to
his right hand man, Tony Ingram. Ingram just about ruined the NS and is
well on his way to ruining CSX. His stated goal when he hired in was to
bring the Harriman Award to CSX...where is it?

Ingram's departure would work wonders for morale...it should have
happened several years ago...it didn't, thanks to Ward. The buck stops
at Ward's desk, he is ultimately responsible for all aspects of CSX's
operations and he needs to be held accountable for his actions or lack
thereof.

In a post I made several weeks ago, I cited the Peter Principle and
posted a link...if Ward and Ingram don't fit the criteria I don't
know who does!

Name: Santa Clause
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 01 August 2009

It's a proven fact that employee moral is the #1 way to increase
productivity and efficiency. Some companies get it some don't. What
most companies fail to realize(or maybe they just don't care)is that
their employees are also stock holders not slaves.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 August 2009

Loco Eng 10-20

The bottom line is MAN is greedy. From the upper tier to the lower, it
all comes crashing down to the higher men on the pole to the lower
taking what they can get and seeing what happens in retrospect.  We
live in a time now where it's every man for himself and every family
for itself so can you expect anything more than a dog eat dog world in
this day and age? This company could offer the engineers a 50 percent
pay raise and a secure spot until their retirement if they would abide
by all their stipulations and do any of you right thinking individuals
out there think they would turn this proposal down?  It comes down to
morality and selfishness if you ask me.  I believe if CSX could find a
way to make more profit for the big bosses and stock holders they could
give a shit less what happens to the average working man who makes
things happen.  

Does it really start with the customer, or does it start with who gets
things done for you CSX?  Granted, if you don't have customers paying
for your services you make little or no profit, but if everyone who
works for your company hates how you operate, how affective can you be?
 Right now oppurtonity is knocking at your door to be just as effective
or more than all the other class 1 railroads and take the lead in how
you treat your employees and how efficient you run your rails.  Please
get rid of Tony Ingram and let the employees who make things happen
speak for themselves.  No one wants this piece of trash working for CSX
so Michael Ward, do us all a favor and FIRE this man now.  While you are
at it though, give back a lot of your salary that went on hookers and
extra activities to the men and women who are out of jobs scrounging on
unemployment right now.  Oh wait a minute, I wouldnt want you to miss a
payment on your mortgage Michael, it could be a lot pricier than most
of your employees are. 

 I honestly hope you, MICHAEL WARD, wake up and realize how many lives
you affect on a daily basis outside of Jacksonville.  Do you realize
that hundreds if not thousands of men and women are without jobs right
now while you suck in over a hundred thousand a month doing speeches
and making bonehead decisions that do nothing to benefit this company? 
Do you realize a quarter of your annual salary could keep all the
unemployed workers out there afloat for at least 5 months?  As a CEO of
an organization while the economy is in the tank, can you not take
example and take less money so that more of your workers facing hard
times could pay their bills and at least keep a roof over their heads? 
Considering you have no trouble putting your meal tab, hotel stays, and
extra expenses on the CSX tab would it be alright if everyone in a
financial hardship could put their tabs on you while you make over a
million a year?  I just thought I'd ask since you are living so
comfortably now Michael.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 August 2009

One thing I learned in my years with this company and the company I
worked before is never, ever vote to accept the first contract proposal
given you.  The "union" officers should have this contract shoved
where the sun doesn't shine, then put them back in the field and make
them live by it.  The "union brothers" who voted for it were all
short sighted.  Let this be a lesson to you.  You younger guys will
have to live with it for 20-30 years.  I've got a lot less than that
and even though it has hurt me, it will hurt you much, much longer. 
What in hell has happened to the unions????????

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 August 2009

Cond 30+

I think I work under that assinine agreement. Which I voted against
even though technically it doesn't bother me. I'll still hold the
highest paying jobs. It was pathetic when facts became known that only
51% of the members voted it passed by 400 votes. In one way it sort of
helped the new ones they went to 100%, they thought a $2500 signing
bonus was a lot of money, the productivity bonuses they didn't have a
clue they were highly taxed, plus the bid system it gave them a sense
of security. Oldheads are the minority but I can live with it. 

If you've been on the railroad for 30+ then explain to me and everyone
else especially anyone hired the past 15 years why you voted for the
crew consist of 1994 which got rid of the last brakemen and you got to
pocket $43,000 plus retirement accounts of $6500 a year, 30 shares of
stock (ironic Jesus was sold for 30 pieces of silver by Judas) or
productivity pay. Don't lecture me. The UTU has sold out 4 jobs in the
past 24 years. Sold their own people down the drain starting with the
flagmen, firemen, brakemen, and now the remote control operator which
has been slashed down to a one man operation. Let's not forget
crossing craft lines by signing the RCO which cut off yard engineers.
What a stupid move those cut back engineers just went and took trainmen
jobs which also cost the UTU members. 

I guess you'll come back like every trainmen and state you never voted
for the crew consist. Bullschidt $43,000 was a lot of money back in
'94. It didn't affect ya'll they considered you a protected
employee. Heck worse case scenario you can get on a reserve pool
collect a check doing nothing. Give me a break. You have to come back
with something better than the SSA.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 July 2009

Funny how RRJ continues to bash the UTU.  Maybe he has'nt read the CSX
SSA that was negotiated by the 3 BLE General Chairman's with CSX. 
Would you like a more detailed explaination of how the BLE has also
sold their members down the river as of late RRJ?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 July 2009

Justed marked off Union Business,  i'm going fishing tomorrow.  Hope
you boys have fun working this weekend.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 July 2009

Tank

That's a good question. The UTU tried to merge with a sheet metal
union till it was exposed that members weren't provided with the
constitution and by laws of the SMWIA which would of completely
controlled all finances of the UTU. That merger was only good for the
heads of the UTU it kept their high paying jobs. Last contract 7 rail
unions except the UTU and BRAC entered in a pact with the IBT during
negotiations it was successful power in numbers. I still haven't a
clue why the other rail unions haven't joined the IBT. I guess it's a
power struggle that heads of unions feel threatened they would lose
their cushy jobs. They don't give a crap about the membership.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 July 2009

RRJ, so ok why dont all the unions join IBT and stop the cannabalism?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 July 2009

Tank

There already is an option for one union. The International Brotherhood
of Teamsters Rail Conference. So far only the BLE(T) and BMWED belong
which comprises about 70,000 rail workers. It allows each individual
union to keep it's autonomy for the crafts sake seeing everyone has
different concerns. One important issue is it would stop rogue unions
from forming pattern contracts. Which has been a big problem over the
past 15 years. BRAC which represents clerks negotiated a contract where
their members would pay premiums on health coverage it spread like
wildfire to the other unions contract negotiations. The UTU opened the
door in 1994 for new hire training programs that are insuffient that to
spread to other unions and crafts. Past contracts have allowed crafts to
cross lines as an Engineer we have to do work that was formally the
mechanical depts, laborers, clerks ect...trainmen have been forced to
do carmens work by doing class 1 brake test in yards ect...The list
goes on. Under the IBT no union agrees to a contract till all have
negotiated successfully. True power in numbers.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 July 2009

Union corruption is why we need to get rid of the Unions and get another
one.  What about one unified union for everyone instead of the mess we
have now.  One NEW UNION with Hoffa as the Supreme Commander. Locked
and Loaded.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 July 2009

Former UTU local officer pleads guilty
 
BIRMINGHAM -- Christopher Scott Tidwell, the former secretary-treasurer
of UTU Local 1261 at Atlanta, Ga., pleaded guilty in federal court on
June 30 to embezzling about $22,000 in local funds, reports U.S.
Attorney Alice H. Martin, whose office prosecuted the case. 
Indicted in early May, Tidwell, a resident of Lineville, Ala., was
accused of forging the signature of the local president on several
checks and pocketing the money during the period Jan. 1, 2006 to Feb.
26, 2008, according to the U.S. attorney's office.  

Sentencing is scheduled for Oct. 1. 

The indictment followed an investigation by the U.S. Labor
Department's Office of Labor-Management Standards. 

(The preceding is based on a press release from U.S. Attorney Alice H.
Martin and other sources.) 
 
July 27

Name: Sam the Slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 July 2009

Try ridin the rails St. Louis to Houston with a sleeper.  Guaranteed
better than your most thrilling, puke till you gag, dilapidated roller
coaster ride - especially after midnight. 

Take a puke bag - you will need it. 

Make sure your life insurance is paid up - might need that too. 

Thrill a minute. Can't wait to do it again.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 July 2009

move to a different location

Name: 
E-mail: wilmbobby@AOL.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 July 2009

After riding the rails for 38 years, I notice most of the crossings were
in good condition, however in Wilmington N.C. they aren't that good,
what can I do to get this taken care of?
                         B.G.H.

Name: pot head
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 July 2009

well i got called back to work so i decided to go and smoke me some more
yoyo so i could see that eye chart better when i go take my physical i
burnt that bitch down in just a matter of seconds this is sum good shit
it makes me feel like a super conductor i feel like i can go switch 400
cars by myself i cant wait to get back here i come bitchs get ready pot
head is on the loose

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 July 2009

NoMo

Greed is the biggest culprit. None of this occurred years ago. We all
abided by the contract so did management. I haven't a clue when it got
twisted around where some felt it was right to go against the agreements
for their own greed. Once this happens in managements eyes it becomes
standard practice. Those who object to these agreement violations are
then scrutinized as trouble makers. The unions capitulated by using
excuses such as not being insubordination has only forced people into
the railroads whims which has escalated the problem. Years ago the
unions would of hit the street striking against such behavior. Today it
appears it's every person for themselves. I'm just greatful to have
just a few years left till retirement. Those who have a lifetime to go
need to get involved with the union. One big obsticle is most never had
family that were union to educate them on how it works. Maybe years ago
that was a benefit when people hired on who were 3rd-4th generation
railroad.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 July 2009

Hey RRJ:

Your right, every contract has good points and bad points. It's my
opinion that the CN/IC agreement has more good points and fewer bad
points for both the carries and contract employees than the agreement
CSX has.

CSX can violate the agreements because the unions and their membership
have acquiesced for years...the agreements aren't worth the paper
they're printed on. Without agreements which are beneficial to, and
will be honored by both parties you might well play mumblety-peg. There
would be fewer problems and less contention just becoming an open shop!

The section 6 notices will be due soon...it's time for the unions to
put up or shut up!!!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 July 2009

There's good and bad in every contract even the CN/IC. I've had
discussions with those working under it. The other class 1's aren't
interested in going in that direction. I know the BLE(T) brought it up
in the 2006 contract negotiations. One of the good points is the no
furlough policy once a person is vested. Most of those I discussed it
with were spending more time at home the hours on duty were long. CSX
is violating our agreements everyday and the unions do nothing.
Management once a person objects tells them to file a claim. Which of
course is denied. Things are changing rapidly out here to fast at times
to keep up with it.

Name: Old GM&O Man
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 July 2009

Theres much more to the CN contract. True they can work you in a yard on
arrival, but theres much they cant do too. Many arbs still in place. I
collected over 7 k in arbs last year. The no lay off policy is good, if
your vested. All trainmen up to Mar. of last year are protected and 5
years as a hogger vest you where you cant be cut back to a trainman.
Theres many jobs cut off now but were still working off the xtra
boards. They made slots for everyone. A few that werent protected as
engineers were cut back to train service where they were protected.
Good and bad points to anything. Even with the economy we made 389 mil
last qtr.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 July 2009

Hey I am Fourloughed and live behind a Service station near the terminal
I spotted a mow truck there this afternoon with three men in it chatting
with two females for over 2 hours. Im fourloughed? They are working?
Something is wrong with this picture. By the way Fuck that brother shit
I got the truck ID and reported it. Maby CSx can save some more money
now!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 July 2009

Hey RRJ:

At least you have something to haul...and with little or no manifest
freight moving maybe CSX is two weeks ahead of schedule.

I personally never had 2 trip tickets while I was on the LOR. Although
a few men made the 272 mile round trip to NO in the 12 hour limit on
very rare occasions, usually just before the sub shut down
for a hurricane. I was on the last train out of Gentilly before they
closed the flood gates for Katrina and it still took us 10 hours...the
only train on the sub.

When I was in the yard we would pick up an occasional dog or deliver a
coal train, all within our limits.

I also agree that CSX would do themselves a huge favor if they 
negociated a system wide CN/IC type agreement...but then again that
makes too much sense and would be too easy!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 July 2009

NoMo

CSX is saying the same thing about being 2 weeks ahead of a delivery
date I've heard from management for years. One thing has changed in my
area CSX has a commitment to the coal piers that they would never be
without coal in their yards. If CSX fails to provide trains CSX has to
pay a penalty. 98% of everything I've hauled has been coal. The past
year or so yard jobs have been recrewing trains left without road crews
rested moving them so another could take it's spot. I've seen entire
yard crews used in road service, I've seen road crews make private
deals with management upon arriving back at their home terminal to get
on a coal train with whatever time is left under the HOS. I've seen
yard foreman not qualified on a subdivision being used as road
conductors which is great for them their entitled to the road pay plus
anything they miss in the yard. The union sits back and does nothing.
The distinction between yard and road service is growing smaller
everyday. That's fine pay me $40 an hour give us the CN/IC agreement
which means once at work your entirely obligated to the railroad. You
could start your day dumping ballast as a work train, next go switch
cars in the yard, then take a road train all within the 12 hours. No
more separation between job descriptions truly an APE (All Purpose
Employee) overtime after 10 hours no more claims ect....

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 July 2009

Hey RRJ:

Two weeks ahead of delivery time...sounds a little suspicious to me.

I wonder whose benchmark CSX is using? The utilities are using less
coal this summer due to the mild weather throughout much of the
country. It's also a good bet that they're maintaining reduced
inventories because of the economy.

I also seem to recall CSX increasing their rates to haul coal to the
utilities to make up for lost revenue due to the poor economy.

On time is amazing...two weeks early, impossible!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 July 2009

CSX is going to work with skeleton crews for along as possible. July
16th never meant those furloughed would automatically be called back.
I'm sure CSX will have no choice but to eventually recall some people
it'll be a slow process. Right now CSX is making money by having a
smaller work force which they like. Workers are just figures on charts
and graphs nothing more. Trains sitting idle isn't new certain
commodities like coal CSX states they are at least 2 weeks ahead of
delivery time. There should be no delusional visions that the new fed
regs would change anything. It'll be business as usual.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 July 2009

It is Thurshday Night with 0 Engineers Available and 3 Conductors Almost
rested. We have 35 Fourloughed what is wrong with these morons

Name: Mike Ward
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 July 2009

Mr. Pot 

Sounds great! 

Dude, could you please post your phone number and address so that my
driver knows when and where to pick you up in the Bentley? 

You be the man!

Mike

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 July 2009

You can increase your text size on your computer so you don't have to
use the glasses.

Name: round man
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for N/A
Posted: 23 July 2009

I enjoy reading coments ,good and bad about the CSX.  I workfd for LN,
csx  for 38 years.  But why cant they be printed in larger and darker
print.  These old eyes get weaker and darker as time goes by,          
                                                                        
                                                                      
thanks.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 July 2009

NOMO


Did you ever think of just using The Google on Spencer or anyone on
this site.

GWB   43

Name: pot head
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 July 2009

hey mickey i will bring us some weed if u bring some whores we will
smoke like theres no tomorrow im high as fuck right now got this shit
laced with cocaine damn i am seeing dead people i got a water bone i
wanna try ive smoked a ounce just today

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 July 2009

Hey Country Boy:

Regarding Spencer and my post of the 19th. There was a post some time
before that on this site regaling Spencer's antics in Jacksonville.

I don't have time now to find it but the post was made within the last
month or so.

With regard to Spencer's beat down, a CSX Special Agent called me
and told me about it. He wanted to know if I knew anything!

Imagine that...

Name: Mike Ward
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 July 2009

Mr. Pot head,

Corporate Office would like to hire you as our new Safety Czar.

Please come see me at your leisure - say Friday around noon-ish.

Lunch on me at the Hilton - bet you'll be famished. 

Please give me a jingle on the telly if you can make it.   

Thanks, dude.  Awesome!

Mike Ward, CSX CEO 

P.S. Could you bring some pot with you? We'll party with some hot
office girls, too!

Name: Country boy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 July 2009

Dear Nomo,

Per your comments about Spencer on the 19th...is this a recent
development?  More particulars about his solicitation bust please? 
Mugshot anywhere?

Country boy

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 July 2009

Smoke all you want. If they call you back you can beat the test and not
show dirty by eating 2 pounds of dried dog turds.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 July 2009

PotHead

It is amazing the use of illegal, misusing and over medicating
prescription drugs while working on the railroad.  Hung over from the
last nights drunk.

One would think it would not be possible.   

How else could the management do and act like they do for Tony.

Name: pot head
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 July 2009

well that makes me feel so much better now i will be all i can be here
at home with my blunt fired up and get high as i can get i love weed

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 July 2009

Hey Pot Head:

Sure it is...CSX and the DOT don't mind. Probably won't even require
a physical when your recalled...which will probably be today or
tomorrow. Seeing how you can afford a little Mary Jane...take the
entire 30 days you have to report back for service, you'll need it.

Oh, better not quit your job just yet...you might need it too!

Name: pot head
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 July 2009

I got a question i am furloughed and is it ok to smoke weed while i am
laid off? i dont think i will get back anytime soon so i didnt think it
would matter all i wanna do is smoke a little mary jane and sit back and
have a good time let me know if yall think i will be ok

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 July 2009

Thats your own fault for getting your hopes up and listening to the
idiots with the company or the worthless union!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 July 2009

I would never tell anyone that the camera was bought, ordered, or
installed unless it was NOT. Most foks are not that dumb. The reason
for an installation is to catch the perp's. The reason to tell
everyone is because it was never purchased, and you should avoid my
vehicle and be afraid!

If she is really facing the tough times, and I believe she is! Screwing
with the equipment for the next person is criminal behavior, and That is
wrong. Heck even a cab driver would not do that.

If the Locomotives have been, as she says, fouled in any way. Get on
the Horn for an inspection. Do it every time, if they tell you to go,
get out your spray and go. I can guarantee you the spaceship will land
in due time, and you will have your day. No one in their right mind
would pour a heater with crap for the next crew, too easy, or would
they????

Name: marked off
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 July 2009

well it looks the dumb ass that runs the florence division is still
doing the same old dumb ass shit hes always done theirs trains sitting
everywhere with no rested conductors and this stupid fucker want call
anyone back to i hope they get his job over this shit before its all
over with i have not ever met anyone that is as stupid as his dumb ass
he couldnt read a switch list or anything else that we as t&e employees
do where do they find these bunch of dumb bastards at? o well i am going
back to the cooler and get another beer and keep laughing my ass off
while i look at the board with noone rested keep annulling them jobs
boys it looks good and remember if you need some one to work call me im
always drunk and ready hell i done worked drunk more times than i have
sober !!!!!!!!!! feels good to stagger around and laugh while im doing
a break test ............

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 July 2009

The new regulations just went into effect thursday. You need to have
patience. Nothing ever moves fast.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 July 2009

CSX Management, Fourlough Hotline and Union kept telling me I would be
back when this new law kicked in. I was told over 50 times by plenty of
people that they would have to have everyone back. Guess What? Still
Jobless

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 July 2009

Update on hours of service regulations 
New hours of service regulations go into effect July 16. 
Although the Rail Safety Improvement Act of 2008 contemplated
implementing agreements to be in place in order to coordinate the new
law with governing agreement rules, the carriers have largely resisted
doing so. 

This means that the new regulations will become effective without
modification of collective bargaining agreements on most properties. 

Instead, the carriers have filed a lawsuit asking a federal court to
permit them to violate existing collective bargaining agreements with
the UTU and the BLET. A link to information on that lawsuit is provided
below. 

General chairpersons have kept the door open to negotiations as the
carriers gain experience with the new regulations, and it is still
contemplated that the carriers will come to the negotiating table and
implementing agreements will be achieved. 

UTU officers at all levels of the organization will also be
communicating during implementation of the hours of service changes to
share their experiences, concerns, ideas and recommendations for
appropriate handling of the carriers' violations or abuse of the new
regulations. 

Note that the Federal Railroad Administration has issued an
interpretation of the new hours of service regulations and asked for
comments prior to making those recommendations final over the next few
months. A link to those interpretations is provided below. 

The UTU will continue to keep members informed via a special Web page
link from the UTU home page at www.utu.org, and provide updates via
immediate e-mail alerts to those signed up to receive such alerts. To
sign up, click on the following link: Register for E-mail Alerts. 

In the meantime, members should contact their state legislative
directors for additional information on interpretation of the new
regulations; and their local or general chairpersons for information on
filing claims for violations of their respective collective bargaining
agreements. 

• Click on the following link to read a summary of the new hours of
service regulations: 

What the Rail Safety Improvement Act of 2008 states 

• Click on the following link to  read the FRA's interpretation of the
new hours of service regulations. (A second link is provided within that
article to read the full FRA 47-page document.) 

FRA interprets hours-of-service changes 

• Click on the following link to read about the lawsuit filed by
carriers asking a federal court to permit them to violate existing
collective bargaining agreements with the UTU and the BLET. 

Carriers ask court okay to violate contracts

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 July 2009

I predict the CSX suits will be in Lafayette Monday or Tuesday at the
latest...the offending parties will be charged, taken out of service
and fired. Terminal management will be transferred and the 
gals apologized to...other than that, nothing will change!

As an example I cite Danny Spencer...he's beaten to a pulp by the
husband of a women he's carrying on with. CSX transfers him to
Jacksonville to keep an eye on him and what does he do, the same thing
that got him there in the first place.

It's like CSX rewards these morons for their bad behavior by
transferring them to Jacksonville...Lafayette or Jacksonville, where
would I rather be?

Hey CSX, how about some place like Chattahoochee...CSX talks a good
game but their actions show their real colors!

Have an ethical CSX day...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 July 2009

Two women say CSX guilty of sexual discrimination 
(The following story by Kelly Holleran appeared on the West Virginia
Record website on December 31.)

HUNTINGTON, W.Va. — Two CSX Transportation employees allege they were
denied promotions because they were female.

Both Tracee Cribb and Tracie Yost claim they applied for posted
positions for which they were qualified, but repeatedly were denied the
advances, according to suits both women filed in federal court.

Cribb had been working for CSX as a train dispatcher since December
2000 and began to apply for posted positions in 2006, namely a chief
dispatcher position in the Jacksonville Center, the suit states. 

Yost began working for CSX on Nov. 9, 1998, and began applying for
posted positions in late 2004, namely a band 4 train master in Grafton,
a director of train operations band 5, a line of road train master in
Parkersburg and a band 4 line of road train master in Clifton, Va., she
claims.

After being denied the opportunity for advancement, both women
attempted to work through appropriate resources to address the problem,
according to the complaint.

Yost even "agreed to accept a mentor and to attain additional training
and education in order to overcome the delineated reasons for CSX's
denials even though none of the males that were receiving the
promotions had the same amount of training and experience as she
already possessed," the suit states.

However, CSX retaliated even further against the women by repeatedly
denying them positions and even refusing to interview them when they
were allowed to apply, they claim.

"CSX was aware that the Plaintiff was being denied these opportunities
based on her gender, even informing her that if they were to promote her
to a supervisory position over a group of their male employees would be
'setting her up to fail,'" Yost's complaint states.

Because of CSX's refusal to promote the women, they lost wages and
benefits and suffered indignity, embarrassment, humiliation and
emotional distress, according to the complaint.

CSX's actions were a violation of the women's rights under the Civil
Rights Act, according to the complaint.

Cribb and Yost are seeking unspecified punitive and exemplary damages,
attorney's fees, costs, an order granting them one of the promotions
for which they applied at CSX and other relief that is just.

They are represented by John A. Proctor of Underwood and Proctor in
Huntington.

U.S. District Court case numbers: 3:08-1409 (Yost) and 3:08-1410
(Cribb)


Monday, January 05, 2009


 
This is also on BLE and UTU web site

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 July 2009

THIS JUST IN: Boone County


8/15/2008 7:00 AM
By Harmon Marks -Boone Bureau

May 2
Angela Smith vs. CSX Transportation Inc., Jay Fleenor, Gerry Williams
III
PA-Mark A. Atkinson, Charles R. Webb; J-Thompson
* Smith, an 11-year employee of CSX, accused management employee Ernest
W. Knick of sexual harassment in July 2007 in Clifton Forge, Va. Clay
Newsome reportedly told Knick his actions were improper. Complaint says
Smith and Newsome reported the behavior to Fleenor in Huntington who
then reported it to Williams. Knick then was transferred to Grafton,
where Smith worked, creating "an impossible working environment." On
April 13, Smith was "constructively discharged" from her management
position and had to return to a lesser paying job in Boone County. She
says defendants' actions or inactions violate the West Virginia Human
Rights Act. She seeks lost wages and benefits.
Case number: 08-C-96


This female was fired by CSX after reporting this.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 July 2009

To the women who are being harassed or discriminated against....you may
want to contact an attorney. The Huntington Division has the same
problems. There are at least 3 active cases now. I am sure their
lawyers might want to hear what you have to say. 
Mark Atkinson attorney Charleston WV
John Proctor attorney Huntington WV 

They can at least give you advice. There are strict time limits on
reporting these incidents. Don't let time slip away. Human resources
is only there to cover up issues not to make them go away.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 July 2009

Nomo

That's was good Lou Reed "Walk on the wildside". To bad you
couldn't of changed the subway sign in the video to Lafayette. Keep on
being politically incorrect it's amuzing.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 July 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 July 2009

RRJ

I noticed you picked up on the Indiana Boys who feel threaten by women
working on the railroad.  The women have their Gay Dar and sense of
smell on and can detect Drag Queens and Silly Boys that have been going
down on things designed for females.  

If you really knew more about some of the Indiana Boys you might think
you were in Jacksonville

---------------------------------------------------------------------

I just love being politically incorrect...but in this case I just
can't help myself!

             http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ88oTITMoM

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 July 2009

A Russell crew working an ID job was 18 min. From being rested and were
called for work. The phone rang again and the called said "sorry I
disturbed your rest.I have to bust your call and start your rest
over!!!" So needless to say 20 hours later they still were not called.
I wonder if the crew caller got 20 hours away from home with no held
away?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 July 2009

NoMo, 

    Man am I relieved you're still doing the Brown Banana Award this
year.  I don't want to go against tradition but this year I think we
should have multiple winners.  Let's do the "Brown Banana Award"
(Gold), Brown Twinkie Award (Silver), and then the Brown finger Award
(Bronze).  I have a couple of candidates in mind this year, but as
always I look forward to your nominations.


Your #1 Fan, Spongebob

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 July 2009

Hey Spongebob and RRJ:

Ahhh...the coveted "Brown Banana", I already had a contender in
mind...but a multiple award, intriguing!

Nominations are always open...just tell me why they should be
considered for the biggest POS (Piece of Shit) on the CSX. It's been
pretty quiet so far this year...same old names, Ingram, Brown, Wolfe.

Think I should post the candidates and let the Brothers and Sisters
vote the winner?

Name: Chicken Schitt eXpress
E-mail: Jackschitt@csx.com
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 July 2009

WHO IS JACK SCHITT?

For some time many of us have wondered just who is Jack Schitt?
We find ourselves at a loss when someone says, 'You don't know Jack
Schitt!'
Well, thanks to my genealogy efforts, you can now respond in an
Intellectual way.

Jack Schitt is the only son of Awe Schitt.

Awe Schitt, the fertilizer magnate, married O. Schitt, the owner of
Needeep N. Schitt, Inc. They had one son, Jack.

In turn, Jack Schitt married Noe Schitt. The deeply religious couple
produced six children: Holie Schitt, Giva Schitt, Fulla Schitt, Bull
Schitt, and the twins Deep Schitt and Dip Schitt.

Against her parents' objections, Deep Schitt married Dumb Schitt, a
high school dropout.

After being married 15 years, Jack and Noe Schitt divorced. Noe Schitt
later married Ted Sherlock, and because her kids were living with them,
she wanted to keep her previous name. She was then known as Noe Schitt
Sherlock.

Meanwhile, Dip Schitt married Lodza Schitt, and they produced a son
with a rather nervous disposition named Chicken Schitt. Two of the
other six children, Fulla Schitt and Giva Schitt, were inseparable
throughout childhood and subsequently married the Happens brothers in a
dual ceremony. The wedding announcement in the newspaper announced the
Schitt-Happens nuptials. The Schitt-Happens children were Dawg, Byrd,
and Horse.

Bull Schitt, the prodigal son, left home to tour the world. He recently
returned from Italy with his new Italian bride, Pisa Schitt.

NOW when someone says, 'You don't know Jack Schitt,' you can correct
them.

Sincerely,
Crock O. Schitt
CEO Chicken Schitt eXpress Railroad

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 July 2009

Hey Corrina:

I'm sorry to say that even in this day and age, racism, sexism and a
few more isms still run rampant. I saw it while in New Orleans and
Mobile...nothing as overt as your case but hushed comments between the
boys, behind their backs. It's just not the RR either, it's society.

I will tell you this...CSX is a Government contractor, they also haul
for a number of large, high profile corporations. Because of this, CSX
can not afford any bad publicity in this regard. Your best defense is a
good offense...file a formal complaint with the appropriate Government
Agencies.

You might also consider contacting the Southern Poverty Law Center,
because of the pattern harassment, it might be of interest to them.

Here is their link: http://www.splcenter.org/

If the damage to your car is documented, talk to the Claims Agent,
it's in CSX's best interest to keep you quiet...that's why I said to
look out for the suits come Monday. Name names and don't worry about
what happens to them, it's their own fault.

The only way CSX can stem behavior like this is to use them to set an
example. If the don't, they will just be condoning it...and they
can't afford to give that appearance.

You stated you were in the service, thank you...but it's either them
or you...which is it going to be?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 July 2009

If you don't want to be stereotyped , don't be a stereotype. Corinna
went on for 3 pages. Men can answer a question "yes" "no" or a
number. Women tell you about eye color, television shows, and a trip to
Detroit. They never actually answer a question. I have never really seen
a competent woman conductor or engineer.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 July 2009

Boy Toy's Pride, are you going to the meeting tomorrow at 10:00? Or are
you going to the Trainmaster's house to do dishes and wash his
underwear?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 July 2009

RRJ

Those guys would be good for just the Bannana.  They like the shape 
of it very well.   They are not into split tails.  Rumors I have heard
is K.E. and his little Bitch Wolfie.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 July 2009

NoMo

The Brown Banana Award should go to those so called men in Lafayette,
Indiana who are women haters. Who most likely beat their wives keeping
them pregnant barefoot an in the kitchen. Who feel women are a threat
to their manhood like they really had any to begin with.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 July 2009

Dipschidt, she never stated she had video evidence. She stated that
video recording equipment has been installed. The next person who tries
to vandalize her property will be screwed. Ya'll are as dumb as a box
of rocks. 

As for the moron who thinks one person is posting under several alias
names. There are enough people on here who know me. So that nincompoop
idea is tossed out the window. Grow up you fool.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 July 2009

Corina and Susan I don't believe for 1 second you have video footage of
anyone vandalizing your vehicles.  If you did, you would immediately
turn it over to the police and CSX for proper handling. Anyone low
enough to vandalize your car should not be given a second chance.  I
know I would'nt tolerate it for 1 second.  By the way, I am a male
working at a terminal in the midwest and I have had problems with my
car being vandalized, items stolen from my car, threatening notes left
on my car and in my locker, nasty comments written on the walls, I have
overheard the remarks made about me in the crew room.  So you see, the
problem exist regardless of what your sex or race may be. If you can
prove your vehicle is being vandalized at work then by all means you
should contact the proper authority and address the issue that way.  I
have had flats at work only to find a nail or tack in my tire, I have
been dinged by carts at Wal-Mart, McDonalds, Etc... scratches on my car
from jealous people who can't afford anythiong better.  Are you sure
these things are happening at work, perhaps they are happening else
where and because you are convinced you are being targeted at work, it
is all being blown out of proportion.

Name: spongebob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 July 2009

NoMo, 

   With all the B.S. going on here on this link, I think it's time we
change the subject.  With that being said,  isn't it about time for
you to start taking nominations for the annual 'Brown Banana Award"? 
Also, as a long time reader-poster on CSX-Sucks.com, I would like to
help you in choosing a winner this year.  I understand that with all
the competition this year, it will be hard to choose a winner.

Your #1 Fan

Spongebob

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 July 2009

Looks as though RRJ, Susan 10-20, Boy Toy's Pride, and Susan less than
1 are all the same person.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 July 2009

To Susan and Corina.  Susan if you actually do have video footage of
someone vandalizing your property, you should turn it over to the Local
police as well as CSX police and CSX management.  Seems as though that
would be the best solution to this problem.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 July 2009

Corrina

That was very informative. I had no idea that mentality still excisted
where people resorted to vandalism and desecration on the railroad. As
a man I don't think I would have been as patient as you. Those who
vandalized my property would have been fired or worse. I saw the
bullschidt in Walbridge in the '70s a black man would get run off the
railroad within a week of hiring out those that stayed were ostricised
out of 600 trainmen only three weren't white. They tried to run me off
because I was a Vietnam veteran with no family working on the former
C&O. It was a clanish society. Until recently I didn't know both my
grandfather and father  worked for the Nickel Plate railroad. My father
didn't stay long it was a short stint after WWII then he reenlisted in
1947 and retired military and civil service. You women have my respect.
Don't let the arseholes win do what you have to do.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 July 2009

Well Gals:

Bet the cat is out of the bag now!

Jacksonville is sitting around this morning scratching their asses
wondering what to do. Don't be surprised if you don't see several
suits in Lafayette Monday.

One problem as I see it is you have tried to play by the
rules...discussing it with the union and your Supervisors. When they
failed to act the first time, you should have filed a complaint with
the Departments of Labor and Justice.

Good luck...you're fighting City Hall, by the time it's over you'll
know how Custer felt!

Name: Corrina
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 July 2009

RRJ, Susan, Susannah,

Thanks for the comments.  You are right.  It is harder for a female on
the railroad than it is for a man.  One thing I've notice having
always been in a male dominated area since high school, its that the
white males blend in as a group.  We women, and minorities stand out in
a group of white guys.  Not because we are great or respected, but
because there are so few of us, and easily noticeable.  Thats a shame. 


CSX may preach diversity, but outside of Atlanta and Jacksonville, its
just words.  (By the way, I did mention this observation to CSX VP of
Diversity, Susan Hamilton last year when I saw her in person at Avon. 
She may have looked right at my face when I talked directly to her, but
she didn't hear a word I said despite the fact she was only 20 feet
away, and the only one talking.  By the way Susan, if this e-mail does
get forwarded to you.  You keep up the good work.  We women and
minorities are still in the minority on CSXT.)

What I find disapointing, is that everytime I am forced to stay in
Lafayette, its the same old story. It starts with smart arse comments
in the crew room between the same guys. The conversation is loud enough
for me to hear, and the Train Master is no where to be found.  Its
usually about either myself, Susan, or Susannah when she would come in
from Avon.  The comments would center on how we're incompetent, or how
we're stealing jobs from the men that have families to support.  The
comments made on the radio aren't much different when they hear my
voice.  

To add a new twist to this years list of harrasment ideas.  I can now
include text messaging.  To the Boy Genius that sent me a text ripping
me a new one.  Thanks for putting your thoughts in writing, and not
blocking your cell number. I went ahead and forwarded it to YOUR Local
Chairman for further action.  Next time you decide to ripe me a new
one, because you feel I inconvenienced your weekend plans.  You can
explain it to MY Local Chairman.  I can only hope that he won't be as
understanding as I am, when he has to talk to you and your Local
Chairman in person about your actions, and their future effects on one
of his members, the union, and the company. 

Having been forced by CSX crew management back to Lafayette for the
past two weeks, and it looks like an additional third.  I got a call
from Susannah today asking me when, and if I was having any luck on
getting back to Avon, and have I read CSX-Sucks.com yet?  I told her
"I don't know when I'll get to come back. Its up to crew management
to do the right thing and send me back to Avon, being I have NO bid in
for Lafayette, and no, I haven't had time to read CSX-Sucks.com in
along while".  Susannah read the post written about Susan and Me, to
me.  She then asked "Isn't this the same garbage that was going on
last time you worked in Lafayette two years ago?"  After she read me
the post, I had to say, "yes it sure sounds like it".  We both came
up with the same names as to who we believe, and know is behind it.  

Why those same men can't understand that we three women want to go to
work, do our job to the best of our ability, and go home, I don't
know.  Our pay check does the same thing as your MAN'S paycheck does. 
It puts a roof over our heads, food on the table, and a vehicle in the
driveway.  The guys that make these comments about us women, stealing
money from the men that "need that check in Lafayette".  What you
don't know is, that some of our woman's check every two weeks goes to
some of our friends that are strapped themselves, and need a helping
hand.  Thanks to our job, we are able to give them a job watching our
pets, mowing our yard, watering the garden... Things that we could do
ourselves, but choose to let others do to maintain their dignity when
we help them out.  We give them a helping hand, as others have done for
us in the past, and will do for us in the future.  Our check is used for
the same thing most men's checks are.  Support those things, and the
people that we care about.  

When I have time to look at the computer, I like Yardlimits.com.  Its
more of an adult site.  Everyone helping each other out, not cutting
each other down.  I understand the need for this site, and I think it
serves its purpose.  Its great way for all of us to share information
about what the company is doing to plot and plan against us.  I hear
all about whats going on, on this site regularly when I am working in
Avon with Susannah, and the 3 other women, and all of the guys.  No one
woman that I have ever worked with on the Great Lakes Division has ever
complained to me about being treated different by the guys, or about
being harrassed because of thier gender or race. That should say a lot
about the terminals on the Great Lakes Division.    

When I worked in the same small Union Pacific Terminal that Susannah
did last summer for a few weeks, I had NO problems.  In fact, I've
stopped at to pick up trains, paperwork, or individual cars in 13
different CSX terminals, and 3 non CSX terminals in the past year.  I
haven't had a single problem.  Everybody was beyond professional at
every location, except in Lafayette.  It amazes me when I go to the
other terminals, and when the guys ask me "where did you hire out
of?"  When I say Lafayette, Indiana, it is not a positive reaction
that I see or hear from them.  Its really too bad. Over all Lafayette -
West Lafayette is a great town with lots to offer.

You would think with Lafayette Yards having Purdue University within
site of its yard office, you would have a terminal that is use to
diversity in its community.  According to the local paper, the West
Lafayette school corp. has students from over 150 different countrys. 
Lafayette - West Lafayette is a very diversified town. (But not CSX's
Lafayette terminal.)

What is so sad, until Susan returns to work at Lafayette, I am 100% of
the female pool, and 50% of the minority pool in Lafayette.  I don't
see that changing any time soon.  I've been refered to more times than
I can count while at Lafayette, (and no where else on the entire system
that I've worked, EVER) "The token female minority." If you want to
refer to me as the female token minority, why don't you include the
United States Veteran part also.  I did sign up and serve my country
during time of war to protect, not only your right to make an arse of
yourself with your stupid comments, but the right under the 1st
ammendment to make them at all.  Please remember though, I while I am
happy to defend your right to make an arse out of yourself under the
1st ammendment, and you feel the need to be man enough to make sexist,
racist, and demeaning comments about me, Susan, or Susannah in my
presence, be forwarned.  You need to be man enough to defend the
comments you make, when you make your explanation to me with your Local
Chairman, and my Local Chairman present.  If I'm not satisfied with
your explination, then we can involve everyone else that needs to be
involved, including management, and the ethics committee. 

I'm tired of trying to be the "bigger person" and ignoring your
comments and actions.  I'm tired of finding my truck keyed, dented,
tires flattened, degrading comments written on the woman's restroom
walls, calender, and our lockers. Its old finding our lockers and locks
tampered with, piss all over the toilet seat, the floor, my grip, the
seat of the locomotive, you jacking with the switches, cables, hoses,
or angle cocks just before I get on the power, crap put, or poured on
the heaters, so that when I turn them on it stinks, the air slips
missing on my trains....  I could continue, but I hope you get the
point. It stops now.  Your actions do not make your wife or mother
proud.  They won't make your Local Chairman proud either when he has
to explain them to someone other than me in Chicago.

You guys in Lafayette I know who is doing this.  This time it stops. 
This is not a threat.  If I am doing something wrong, related to work,
PLEASE tell me.  If I don't know whats wrong, I can't fix it.  I want
to hear how to fix something that may be a problem.  I won't know
unless you tell me.  (Providing this problem is work related of
course.)

I didn't ask to come back to Lafayette.  I've got my LC working on
finding out why I was forced from Avon, where I am happy, unharrassed,
and get along with about everybody, to Lafayette, when I have no bids
in for this terminal. 

I may have hired out in Lafayette,  but I why would I want to stay in a
terminal that still treats its women like second class citizens and
calls us Whores and Scabs. (Me not whoring you doesn't make me a
whore, it just means I have good taste.  The part about being a scab. 
I make, and am active in most of the union meeting.  Do you even take
the time to attend them, where ever the location?)  You know, when I
hired out in Lafayette, I never thought I would leave, and that the
harrassment was just part of the job on the railroad.  Having had the
privilage of going to several terminals over the past year, its not
that way every where, only here in Lafayette.  

I'm too old, too tired, and have no desire to turn the other cheek
anymore.  You've got a problem with me?  Grow some balls, and say it
to my face in a calm and civil matter.  If we can fix it great, if not,
thats what the LC's are for.  You cross the line again, lay a hand on
my personal property or me, thats what the police, and the ethics line
are for.  I've also taken the time to go to www.jordanhiddencams.com
and order the equipment I feel I need to protect my truck. It was
delivered Monday.  I've had my truck setup for video surveillance and
alarmed. I took the time to have the equipment installed this week.  I
should have never had to resort to this, but its cheaper that replacing
another set of tires, hiring Martin's Body Shop to touch up the key,
and body damage, and being parinoid of what else you might decide to do
to my truck while I am working. 

Its your choice guys.  I'm done turning the other cheek, and I know
who you are.  This is your one and only warning.  To most of you guys
at Lafayette, I enjoy working with you.  Its the few idiots in
Lafayette are making the entire lot of you look bad to the rest of us
that visit this site.  Maybe its time someone brought the few idiots
into line and inform them its the 21st century.  We women and
minorities are in the work force to stay, and we would all like it
better if we all got along.  We are not the enemy here.  We want to be
treated as equals.  Let us do our job. In case you haven't figured it
out, the company makes it hard enought on all of us, they don't need
your help to make it any harder.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 July 2009

CSX says freight decline bottoming out
 
TAMPA, Fla. - CSX Corp. CEO and President Michael Ward said he expects
the railroad’s freight volume to drop by a double-digit percentage rate
in the third quarter, the Tampa Bay Business Journal reports.
 
But the anticipated decline won’t be as sharp as the 21 percent decline
in volumes in the second quarter because the market appears to have
bottomed out, Ward said. 

The decline in volumes handled coupled with less cushioning from fuel
surcharge recovery resulted in a 20 percent decline in CSX’s earnings
in the second quarter. 

The company posted earning of $308 million, or 78 cents per share,
compared to $385 million, or 93 cents per share, from the same period
last year. The earnings per share was 16 cents higher than analysts
predicted. 

CSX’s revenue in the second quarter fell 25 percent to $2.2 billion. 

Ward said an anticipated increase in more automotive and light vehicles
being built in the third quarter than the second quarter was one sign
that the market was “levelling.” 

He also pointed to a stabilization of the transport of metals and
chemical, which signify manufacturing activity. 

“They’re not moving at an overly robust pace but we don’t see any
further bottoming,” said Ward. 

Ward said the amount of furloughed employees has declined by about 200
to 2,600, but that’s more because of existing employees retiring or
going on vacation than a return of freight volumes. The proposed
federal cap-and-trade program could be a double-edged sword for the
company. 

On the plus side, rail’s ability to move goods with a less
environmental impact makes them more attractive to customers looking to
reduce the amount of emissions their supply chain creates. But the
program also will likely hinder the building of new coal fired plants,
meaning there will be less coal to transport or there won’t be growth
in its coal division. 

The company said its coal shipments dropped by 21 percent in the second
quarter because utilities’ reduced usage, lower gas prices and a
decrease in coal exports. 

Operating expenses declined 27 percent due to cost management efforts
and increased network efficiency, CSX said. This allowed the company to
have an operating income of $582 million and an operation ratio of 73.4
percent for the quarter. 

(This item appeared in the Tampa Bay Business Journal July 16, 2009.)
 
July 16, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 July 2009

RRJ

I noticed you picked up on the Indiana Boys who feel threaten by women
working on the railroad.  The women have their Gay Dar and sense of
smell on and can detect Drag Queens and Silly Boys that have been going
down on things designed for females.  

If you really knew more about some of the Indiana Boys you might think
you were in Jacksonville.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 July 2009

Sonny, You got the point I was making so shove your spell check sideways
up where the sun don't shine. Did you make threats? You sure did except
in your case your chicken by referring to another person whom you stated
would not hold back. Excuse me that sounded like a threat. What's wrong
with you boys in Indiana? You don't like women?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 July 2009

So you condone destroying other peoples property ? You condone
harrassment of fellow workers?? WOW what a wonderfull person you are,I
guarantee you that I could care less how you feel about me,I do care
about the harrassment and intimidation that has and is going on and I
guarantee it is going to STOP.You have a wonderfull CSX day now, and I
hope you feel like your a bigger man now that you have put your two
cents in....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 July 2009

Name: susan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 July 2009

Danny-I agree with you in part, Yes this is a csx bashing site, The
people who come here should make that their priority. I myself was
directed here by people concerned about what was wrote in the aspect
of
whores working in Lafayette. I DO NOT CARE what people think of me,I
DO
NOT CARE what they say about me,I DO CARE when harrassment HAS and IS
a
continuing part of my employment with csx.Things such as name calling
are childish and are treated as such-Things like the before mentined
problems make for a hostile workplace for myself and my female
co-workers and aren't acceptable to me, and are not going to be
tolerated any-more.I invite you to YARDLIMITS.COM. A place where all
railroadera are welcome,where women are treated with respect by their
coworkers.A place where rails can discuss things in an adult way.++++
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Honey ya got to get Honest, stop blowing the smoke. When you type in
bold letters that you do not care what folk's think of you that is
smoke. You really do care about your reputation, and want to be
respected, just like everyone. I will go no farther with your comments.
Get your mind right and go for it you are the only person that has
control of what the RR see's in you. If you have issues that will not
be tolerated, you have real problems.

Name: susan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 July 2009

Danny-I agree with you in part, Yes this is a csx bashing site, The
people who come here should make that their priority. I myself was
directed here by people concerned about what was wrote in the aspect of
whores working in Lafayette. I DO NOT CARE what people think of me,I DO
NOT CARE what they say about me,I DO CARE when harrassment HAS and IS a
continuing part of my employment with csx.Things such as name calling
are childish and are treated as such-Things like the before mentined
problems make for a hostile workplace for myself and my female
co-workers and aren't acceptable to me, and are not going to be
tolerated any-more.I invite you to YARDLIMITS.COM. A place where all
railroadera are welcome,where women are treated with respect by their
coworkers.A place where rails can discuss things in an adult way.

Name: danny
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 July 2009

I thought this site was CSX-SUCKS.com, not bash your fellow employees
and make allegations about co-workers.  Time to grow up and quit acting
like a bunch of teen-agers. Why do you people care what others say or
think about you?  We are out here for 1 reason, that is to earn a
payday and support our families, end of story.  Some people thrive on
conflict and stirring up trouble, why play their game and continue to
upset yourself.

Danny

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 July 2009

RRJ

At which point was a threat made?  Ever heard of spell check?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 July 2009

Look Boy, You can sugar coat your comments all you want. Funny they
never appeared on here till Suzannah made her last few post. You can
make all the excuses you want it still shows your shallow charector.
You can make all the threats you want or in your case weenie out put
the blame on someone else. You're must think your a real big man. I'd
be careful if you push people to far there might be consequenses to pay.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 July 2009

The CSX whores-Scabs comment was directed at the male Engineer's who
are in bed with the company and had nothing to do with the women at
Lafayette. The term 'whore' doesn't always mean a woman who sleeps
around.  In this case it was refering to the employees who are in bed
with the company.  The next time I will say 'male sluts' so you
females don't blow things out of proportion.   

Susan J.,  If you have problem with W.K. give him a call, I'm sure he
will be glad to have a chat with you about your allegations. I don't
think he is the kind of guy to hold back his feelings.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 July 2009

RRJ,

You seem to be an intelligent person. Yes we do have it harder in
certain areas. Seems to be in the smaller "click" towns. I run on the
UP to a very, very small town. When I first started going there they
were very stand offish. But I understood. Being from a foreign rr and
not knowing a thing about me gave them the right to be skittish. But in
time they learned that I was out there to put food on my table and pay
my bills just like everyone else. Just because I am a female didnt make
me a threat to their man hood. I can see things alittle differently than
most women after working in an all male prision for 5 years. I BETTER
NEVER SEE the things that I saw in there out here on the rr!! Dont
expect too. In the 10 years I have been out here I have only had one
real case of sexual intimid.
and my fellow workers took care of it. In the beginning it was the
old-old heads that made comments about my motive for working on the rr.
They were used to old ways. Man working and woman home with kids keeping
the fires burning waiting for the man to come home with the dough. I
understood that. Old dog, old ways.  I dont accept it from anyone under
the age of 50! They know better. Takes 2 to make a living today with a
family. Especially if they want to save for a decent retirement and
college for kids. And if your single,its even harder. No one at home to
get your back if you get in a bind. Im guessing the ones who are giving
the women a hard time dont have a daughter or granddaughter out there
beating the streets trying to make a decent living. Things can only get
better.

Name: susan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 July 2009

Just wanted to address the people who have a problem with women in
Lafayette-I find it strange you continue to spew your harrassing
comments. Weren't you WARNED about harassing women out here,snide
comments,flat tires,scratched car,using and abusing the womens
restroom,and the list goes on and the camera is still recording,and
weren't you WARNED that if you continnued, you would be in serious
trouble with the company???Did'nt your buddie BEG and PLEAD for you to
be givin another chance????Do you not think that if the company can
referance this site and comments for a court proceding in NOMOs case
,they can also do it in YOUR case??? You need to be VERY carefull what
you say bout me- Ya see -I have reached the limit of my patience-and
unlike the other women in your life-I am NOT going to continue to
tollerate it. You got a problem with me-approach me like the MAN you
are supposed to be and discuss it!!!                               
***no more warnings***

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 July 2009

Charector assasination is an evil tool. I find it repulsive definitely
intrusive even to the point of becoming a lawsuit and dismissal for the
prepatratiors. We have a few women working at my location. The rumors of
their imaginary escapades is outragious everything from being lesbians
to they've screwed every guy on the railroad. I've seen a lot of men
who talk big in the crew shacks then their the first to run up to a TM
bend over hoping at least their brown nosing would get them a reach
around. A woman has to deal with a lot more than any man out here. They
have to work twice as hard to prove themselves. If they can't handle it
then let them fall flat on their face and leave. The railroad is still a
male dominated society. It's changing it wasn't that long ago
minorities couldn't get a job in transportation on the railroad except
in menial laborer jobs. Getting a job on the railroad without having at
least a history of 2-3 generations of family working on it was nearly
impossible. Times they are a changing. Look at the person as an
employee nothing more their private life is their own. No one has to
like anyone out here it never has been a popularity contest. We are all
here for one thing to make money.

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 July 2009

I thought it was Adam and Eve, not Steve.

Name: Boy Toy's Pride
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 July 2009

Hey Woolfie,

Looks like Dil & Do are trying to claim that they're the President of
the Gay Lafayette Club.  I know you're upset and threatened that the
scabs and  whores are doubling in Lafayette.  Don't worry Woolfie,
we've still got your tight buns covered.  There aint no Ho that can
ever screw over anyone better than you Woolfie.  Keep that in mind you
Scab, Ho, Dil & Do.

Dil a Do you guys are Bitches.  If Woolfie ever runs into you, he's
going to slap the both of you.  It won't on your bare buns like you
want and deserve either.  Its going to be across the face, and you're
going to scream like the little pricks you are.  

Suck um Woolfie
The REAL President of the Gay Lafayette Club.
A Gay Engineer is a Happy Engineer - Woolfie

Name: Upset
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 July 2009

Although there are issues with CSX that we all would like to see
resolved, some more serious than others, I think that the majority of
you are taking your job for granted. Quite your bitchin', go to work,
and be damn thankful you have a job in this economy. I have been
furloughed since Jan. and am a Journeyman Tool and Die Maker and have
been unable to find work. Some of you don't know how lucky you really
do have it.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 July 2009

SHAME!!!!

Note to LC who belittled his fellow brother(in front of everyone else)
that you took and oath to represent....You know who you are. I know you
visit this site.


Any person who is of GOOD MORAL CHARACTER who is employed in a craft or
vocation, whether public or private employment , represented by the utu
is eligible to membership

Im guessing you were of good moral character at one time or you wouldnt
be an LC! Did you forget your oath!
"I pledge my honor to faithfully observe the constitution.......
and to conduct myself at ALL times as not to bring reproach upon my
union.

Doesn't matter if you think your member is acting like a scab. If he
is doing what is his given right per our union agreement then you HAVE
TO support it! You dont have to like it, but you have to support it.
Your job is to enforce all the rights that we are given. If you dont
then go jump the fence and get on board with csx management. ALL LC's
and vice are in the field to enforce everything that is our god given
"Written" right. Your job is no different than a lawyer.  If you get
any crap from your fellow workers you tell them....If for some unseen
reason you find yourself in the same situation and you dont know how
you got there, be assured I WILL BE IN YOUR CORNER. Thats my JOB!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 July 2009

Be advised accordingly the post below was done by Dil & Do of the Gay
Lafayette Club.   Dildo is referring to the female employees currently
there working. 



Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 July 2009

The CSX whores-Scabs are multiplying at lafayette, IN.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 July 2009

Oh no, she's back.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 July 2009

NOMO!   
Yeah still alive and kicking. Havent posted for awhile because nothing
has changed since the first day I visited this site. Same old junk over
and over. Going on 10 years with the company and still just as
incompetent as always. Every single day you can find something wrong
with your job. Whether it be the wrong info on paperwork or wrong
engine numbers assigned to the job or car numbers incorrect or dyno
doesnt work on leader or....BLAH BLAH BLAH! WE all know. But god for
bid you dont have your hand on the handrail when you are walking on the
engine! There'a a write up for unsafe walking pratices... 

FYI.. There are several support groups out there who are working to
help those union members who are abused and misrepresented by their
unions. I have personally been involved with one in the past who has
made an huge difference for union members in other trades. They LOVE
GOOD PUBLICITY.  If you have proof that your lc's or GC's or anyone
else for that matter is corrupt or abusing their members they welcome
anything you can send them.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 July 2009

The CSX whores-Scabs are multiplying at lafayette, IN.

Name: retired
E-mail: fitzgerald ga
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 July 2009

To Susannah:the ex local chairman w e vanhorn working at Fitzgerald did
not steal from the union he stole claims that was supposed to go to the
extra board men that was on the board instead he was marked off over 300
days that year but was putting his name on 99 persent of the time
claims.this went on for more than one year. our good general chairman
refused to try and get any money back from him he is now retired
enjoying all his free money. if you know anyone in labor relation just
ask them or mr MIKE PENDERGRASS OR MR JOHN HANCOCK WHO FLAT OUT REFUSED
TO HANDLE THIS.THIS IS THE U T U THAT REPRESENTS EVERYONE.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 July 2009

UTU agreements protect laid-off workers
 
The adverse impact of furloughs will be lightened for some CSX workers
under an innovative furlough retention board agreement negotiated by
General Chairperson John Lesniewski (GO 049), with assistance from
General Chairperson John Hancock (GO 851).

This furlough retention board agreement also is being offered by CSX to
other UTU general committees.

The agreement is voluntary between general committees and CSX, but
first must be offered by railroad management. If offered, CSX general
chairpersons will discuss with local chairpersons whether to place it
into effect at their employee supply point.

The agreement is similar to a continuous employment board agreement
negotiated with Union Pacific by UTU Assistant President Arty Martin
while he was an International vice president. 

Attempts are being made to gain similar agreements with other major
railroads, including BNSF and Norfolk Southern. 

These agreements do not impact the operation of extra boards.

Under the CSX agreement, furloughed employees placed on each furlough
retention board will be guaranteed four days of work each bi-weekly pay
period, will retain health-care insurance, will continue building
seniority and Railroad Retirement credits, will remain current for rule
examinations and qualifications, and will be recalled to active service
under a pre-determined mathematical formula.

Lesniewski said the CSX furlough retention board is an attempt "to
lighten the impact upon our cut-off and furloughed brothers and sisters
to the extent possible, given that the carrier literally does the hiring
and firing."

In negotiating these agreements, UTU officers have stressed to the
carriers that short-term economic gains from furloughs could backfire
during the peak vacation season and implementation July 16 of new
hours-of-service regulations -- both of which will limit availability
of qualified operating crews.

Agreements such as Union Pacific's continuous employment boards and
CSX's furlough retention boards lessen the likelihood that younger
employees will depart the railroad permanently, triggering, eventually,
an expensive search for new hires who then must be trained from scratch.
 

UTU members placed on continuous employment boards or furlough
retention boards also are able to pursue part-time employment
elsewhere, with knowledge that their families are protected, and that
when the recession ends, they will return to full-time employment with
the railroad.

"Given that train and engine service employees work mostly
unsupervised, keeping the morale of the workforce at high levels is
crucial to providing world-class customer service and ensuring safe
operations," Martin said.
 
July 14, 2009

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 July 2009

suzannah

My case involved a claim for all lost wages for a period of 6 months.
The union botched it by not submitting the claim for 18 months it was
denied under the RLA time limits. The case circled around the railroad
violating my rights with the EAP (voluntary contact) under the federal
right to privacy. My LC shortly after that the time got busted for a
Rule G violation at work for being drunk the railroad made a deal with
him to hamper the process to resolve my situation in return they would
dismiss/forgive his charges. The railroad knew they had violated my
rights. It turns out the LC after my constint insistance of it's
progress finally did forward the claim to the GC at a national
convention nearly 14 months later. It wasn't actually fowarded for
handling till I contacted the president of the union in Cleveland 18
months in to the situation. All the while I was told from the
LC-GC-National office that you must exhaust all union options before
seeking any type of relief from the courts that any statue of
limitations didn't apply. At that point the union was going to be a
defendant in my lawsuit along with the railroad. As for the railroad
the person who was handling the matter for labor relations in JAX whom
I had known since our early days on the railroad off the record
informed me if the union had processed the claim even as late as 6
months it would of been paid. When it hadn't been forward to his
office for 18 months he had no choice but to deny it. The conclusion
the attorney informed me the staute of limitations was 2 years the
union who I trusted released me at 2 years knowing this fact. Today I
tell people seek advise from an attorney if your rights have been
violated especially if the matter isn't getting resolved in a timely
fashion.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 July 2009

Hey Suzannah:

Long time no hear...glad you're still alive and kickin'.

You're 100% right, except I think a union run by the Mafia would be
much more effective...everyone's claims would be paid, and the work
rules would be enforced...at least you might get some value for your
dues!

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 July 2009

Mike D,


The LMRDA or Landrum-Griffin Act of 1959 established a bill of rights
for individual trade union members in internal affairs, including a
right to democratic elections of leaders. It also set forth detailed
financial reporting and disclosure requirements for unions and extended
prohibitions on secondary action by workers.

Yes you can sue your union.  But like the other gentleman stated, not
the local chairman. Im not sure what the other guy meant when he said
his lc stole thousands of dollars. But if there was misappropriation of
union dues or funds then embezzlement charges can be brought forth. It
only take one person with proof to launch and investigation within the
union and to have the lc removed. If the union refuses to take it
forward then by federal law you have the right to sue them to recoup
losses. As for the reference made that you had to use all means within
the union first before you could sue, that would be in reference to
claims filed against the rr.  It is however stated in the LMRDA what
your rights are in this matter. I suggest you read it. I had a claim
that had sat for over 2 years unheard. When I finally got through to
the General Chairman, I made it clear that I knew my rights and the
deadline they had to get something done about this and that I was
considering getting my own lawyer. His snotty comment to me was.... You
do what you think you have to do, but I guarentee you that you wont get
anything near what we can get you if you try going after the company on
your own!

People forget unions are federally regulated. They have to be.
Otherwise you would have nothing but old moffia controled unions
stealing every dime that comes through their front door. 
If you think your lc is dirty and stealing then put the proof in the
unions face. If they fail to act, let the feds know.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 July 2009

Hey Yardmaster,

Hear that Danny Spencer Jr's got himself a used chevy van coming his
way.  Danny's Daddy fixed the transmission himself.  Danny Senior is
going to be delivering it to his boy, Danny Jr. sometime in the near
future.  Look out Alabama.  The Spencer men are going to be out in
force when the Daddy hit town.  

Look out all you southern boys, Danny's going to be a man with a plan,
and a van.  Lock your women up, or at least let them know the truth
about "little" Danny Jr.  He's only half the man he should be.  When
Danny Jr. tells a woman he's going to give her six inches, he's going
to have to screw her twice.  No kidding ask Sarja Musac. (his first
love at Lafayette Jefferson high school, in Lafayette, Indiana.  She
dumped Danny Jr. when he couldn't be all the man he should have been. 
Of course Danny nailed her at the high school reunion.  Yes she was
disapointed.)

Don't blame Danny Jr. for being a skirt chaser.  Danny Jr. didn't
fall far from the tree.  Danny Sr's got a bunch of illegit kids
running around Lafayette, Indiana himself.  I think Danny Jr.'s trying
to top his dad's record though.

Did know when Spencer was in Lafayette, (working his way up the pole)
he would go to the strip clubs with some of the company suck contract
employees?  Both yardmasters and an engineers.  Today, one of the
engineers that use to suck ole Danny's cock is a train master himself.
 AJ Cassero in Queens Gate Yards.  

AJ use to brag that Danny would use his wife Deanna as "bait" so that
he could get himself a threesome. AJ said he would see more of Deanna
than the strippers most nights. AJ said that when Danny wasn't around
Deanna would sit on his lap, and give him a huge woody. Guess she
wanted to know what a hard cock felt like, because with Danny Jr's
size, she ain't ever going to find out.  Wonder if Danny Jr. used the
company pro card for the guys "tips", you know, call it a company
suck "safety meeting" 

Hope that answers some of your questions Yardmaster.  Danny maybe be a
whore himself, but he's got his wife helping him out.

You know the saying, Suck up, Fuck up, Move up.  Fits both Danny' to a
tee.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 July 2009

The UTU constitution allows for the impeachment of a LC who is not
performing his required duties. Save your claims! It can easily be
proven wether he is appealing them or not. If that dosn't work you
only need 15 or 25 members to sign on to get a charter for another
local.

Name: David
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 July 2009

Anyone heard anything about CN buying the Nashville division by
September or October? Lets pray shall we.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 July 2009

CSX is a joke! I would be ashamed to be an trainmaster! You have no
ethics or morals! How do you look at yourself in the mirror? How do you
sleep at night? Remember this what comes around goes around!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 July 2009

This is an interesting recap of David Bronner's recent speech. He
is a very astute man... I hope he's not prophetic!

 
http://economicedge.blogspot.com/2009/07/speech-by-dr-david-bronner-ceo-alabama.html

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 July 2009

Such a sad, sad story!

APNewsBreak: Dad left notes to family he killed
By DAVID DISHNEAU, The Associated Press
2009-07-10
 

MIDDLETOWN, Md. - 
After killing his wife and three children, and before taking his own
life with a shotgun, Christopher Wood placed loving, apologetic notes
on or near the bodies, according to police records obtained by The
Associated Press.

"I think we both know we never should have gotten married," Wood said
in a handwritten note to his wife, Francie Billotti-Wood. Nevertheless,
he wrote, "that does not change that fact that I love you dearly."

In a note to his parents and sister that was also found in the
family's rented home in April, the 34-year-old man wrote that he would
probably go to hell for what he did.

"I have asked for forgiveness on the sins I have just committed. Hope
it works," Wood wrote.

He included a quote he attributed to comedian Chris Rock: "Life is
long especially if you make the wrong choices."

Police records suggest that Billotti-Wood, 33, was considering leaving
her mentally ill husband, and that her heavy spending had contributed
to the family's $450,000 debt.

The AP obtained the 48-page investigative report from the Frederick
County Sheriff's Office Thursday through a Public Information Act
request.

Investigators concluded that Wood, a sales and marketing manager for
Jacksonville, Fla.-based CSX Corp., killed his wife; sons Chandler, 5,
and Gavin, 4; and 2-year-old daughter Fiona with a .25-caliber handgun
in their bedrooms on the night of April 16 or the morning of April 17.
He then spent more than 12 hours typing a suicide note, doing yard
work, feeding the dog and visiting a Subway sandwich shop before
decapitating them, putting a shotgun in his mouth and pulling the
trigger.

His body was found on the floor of the home's master bedroom in
Middletown, about 50 miles west of Baltimore.

The contents of the typed suicide note were either redacted from the
document given to AP or not included in Detective Joseph M. Rowe's
report. Sheriff Charles A. Jenkins has refused to release copies of any
of the notes found in the house.

Rowe wrote that police learned from Wood's parents and sister, and
from his suicide note, that he had suffered from mental illness since
his teens. An autopsy found seven drugs, including antidepressants and
an anxiety drug in his body.

The handwritten notes found with the children's bodies express
fondness and regret. "I love you dearly and I am sorry I did not have
a chance to see you grow into a woman," Wood wrote to his daughter. He
signed each child's note, "Always and forever, your daddy."

The family had moved in August from Jacksonville, where they owned a
house they were trying to sell.

Billotti-Wood's in-laws told police that Christopher Wood had taken
out a second and third mortgage on the Florida home to pay off his
wife's credit-card debts, which they said exceeded $300,000. Her
father told police that Francie "liked to spend money."

Billotti-Wood had grown up in the Middletown area. Several
acquaintances told police she seemed happy and in love with her
husband. But in an April 4 Facebook message to a childhood friend that
was included in the police report, Billotti-Wood wrote, "We were
having problems in Florida and I think we both thought a change of
venue would improve our situation and it really hasn't. He hates it
here. And I am not leaving just to be miserable someplace else."

In the same message, Billotti-Wood asked her friend, a paralegal, "How
long do you have to live separate to get a divorce?"

Another longtime friend told police that Billotti-Wood had asked him a
month or so before the deaths whether he had any vacant apartments.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material
may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 July 2009

Where is Ol Danny Boy Spencer snaking out nowadays?   Who is he whoring
around with these days.   Wonder if he read about Air McNair in the
news.   His luck will run out when he catches a STD or a bullet.  Maybe
he is servicing some High up CSX Official's Wife or the Big Dog at a
CSX Orgy.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 July 2009

You'd think the dumb baster would learn after he got the shit kicked
out of him. Some people deserve what they get, Spencer is on of them.
He's neither invisible or bulletproof...last time he was lucky, but
his luck won't hold forever!

Name: Your village
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 July 2009

There goes Danny Spencer sneaking off to another woman's room again. 
He acts like know one is looking.  I got to say, I've never seen a man
run after so many dirty women in all my years here.  Evertime I see him
he smells like a wet whore.  I guess he'll be meeting with another
husband in the near future.

Name: average joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 July 2009

okay guys 
i see alot of bitching about the unions but where i live unions are
shit there were two factorys here one union the other not. both
manufactured the same product while the union employees did it for an
average of two dollars less on the hour and had shittier benifits

That is the awesome part about a union in a right to work state unions
dont mean a hill of beans here just something to blow your money on.

im an electrician by trade and went to a tech school for two years to
get an associate of applied science in electrical technology 
got my license and all was well went to talk to the union and found out
it was shit they start you out at shitty pay and pretty much wont let
you test up to journeyman without 3 years working in the union paying
dues sounds like a fucking scam to me so i never joined for that fact
and the other bieng that if you join the union and there next job is on
the other side of the country and you dont want to leave your wife and
newborn for two years your blackballed and wont work for the union
again 

So in conclusion in a right to work state unions are nothing but a
waste of money and time

average joe

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 July 2009

RE : anyone getting called back ; a handfull, 7 I think in Buff at FNT.
I don't think the carrier has any idea how the new HOS law is going to
affect manpower; in typical CSX fashion, they will wait a month or two
too long to respond. Once it becomes a shitstorm, they will recall more
people.

Name: retired
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 July 2009

To the person who wants to sue local chairman. forget it. we had a local
chairman at Fitzgerald, Ga name W E Vanhorn who stole claims from the
men working the extra board we voted him out at thE .. second union
meeting. hE STOLE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM THEM OUR GOOD
GENERAL CHAIRMAN REFUSED TO HANDLE THIS AT ALL MR JOHN HANCOCK EVEN
THOUGH THE INTERNATIONAL MR. THOMPSON ADVISED HIM TO HANDLE WELL HE
NEVER DID . YOU JUST ASK HANCOCK AND SEE WHAT SHIT HE TELLS YOU/.THIS
IS WHAT REPRESENT THE U T U. mr vanhorn made over onehundred ninty
thousand dollars in one year plus we paid him twenty thousand dollars
he only worked 50 days that year.vote this local chairman out that is
about all youcan do.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 July 2009

RRJ 

Folks could Put a lean on the LC's home or get the local thrown off
the property. Workers need to vote and you need a new local ready to
take over.

Hope this helps.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 July 2009

so have they started calling people back anywhere else?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 July 2009

To the poster asking about suing the LC. The answer is no. You can try
to get him out of office. You can't do it alone with enough people
supporting the idea it could be possible. Even then unless the LC is
willing to resign it could be a long process. I've witnessed that with
the UTU local in my area they've been trying to get an LC to resign for
sometime the LC refuses. It's almost impossible to sue a union even at
the national/international level. I know I tried once. In my case the
international and general committee advised me I needed to exhaust all
unions options against the railroad before hiring an attorney. They
told me the statue of limitations in a court of law doesn't start till
after all options are met. I found out the hard way it's a crock of
schidt. The union after 2 years finally sent me a release letter to
seek council with a law firm. All my paper work was returned from the
attorney because the statue of limitations in the federal courts had
expired. The union along with the railroad knew exactly what they were
doing because they would have also been served as a defendant in a
lawsuit.

Name: Santa Claus
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 06 July 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 July 2009

I like overweight women with tatoos, rotten teeth, smoking a Marlboro,
and with all the Harley clothing on. Dam, I wish I was cool enough to
ride a Harley, maybe I could pick up some of these whores

I can understand the tatoos and Marlboros and the Harley clothes but
the rotten teeth? What's wrong with you? Women are much better with no
teeth at all!! Hell my fat ole ladies nickname is Gummer!!(I don't know
if you could really call her fat though because she is only 263 lbs.

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 July 2009

Sounds like Goobers wife.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 July 2009

I like overweight women with tatoos, rotten teeth, smoking a Marlboro,
and with all the Harley clothing on. Dam, I wish I was cool enough to
ride a Harley, maybe I could pick up some of these whores.

Name: mike D 
E-mail: md777@sbcglobal.net
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 July 2009

can you sue a local chairman and where do you start

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 July 2009

Hey Me,

Trivia Time:

Is the Train Master your looking for....That Scab Sucking Scumb John
Welsh?  He works in Lafayette, Indiana as the Train Master?  He's an
engineer wantabe that will never make it.  Train Master Welsh is about
as tall as he is round, he might be rounder than he is tall, and has a
goat tee gone bad.

TM Welsh likes to brag about when he was one of the top conductors at
Queens Gate, or HOME as he still calls it. When Welsh became a Train
Master at CSX, they let him start running engines while working at AK
Steel during their strike.  OH, by the way, Welsh doesn't have an
engineer license.  (Welsh's probably just an RCO man when he's not
under his bosses desk. Hence the reason for the fur around his mouth,
and none on the side. Welsh wants to give his bosses the real fur feel
as he's sucking his way to the top. Its his way of saying thanks for
letting him be "the man behind the throttle" even if it was only for
a little while.)  

My guess for Trivia Time, the scab that ran the engines at AK Steel
during a strike....  Cock sucker, I mean Train Master John Welsh
working out of Lafayette, Indiana.

If I'm right you can send the grand prize, the use condoms that Ward
uses on Ingram, and the rest of us to TM Welsh. I'm sure it will be
more motivational to him than me. (if only he could measure up to
little Tony Ingram, he wouldn't have to have that stupid goat tee
around his cock sucking mouth)

Have a good day and please let us know who is right. 

thanks.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 July 2009

I'm sorry I posted prematurely about a comment about Mike Ward being
like Daniel in,"There will be blood." I started watching the movie in
the middle right when he shot the man that said he was his brother.I
walked out of the room before the old man woke him up to take him to
his church. I returned at the part where he was sipping tea and his
deaf son walks in to ask for his blessings on a business venture. I
watched it till the end and boy, for me he looked like a Psycho killer
fat cat. I thought this guy would suit Ward.

I watched the movie from the beginning and thought it was amazing, 
just things got a little nuts for him at the end. Those were the times
back then, no regulation and he got out of control.

So I can't even speak of Ward on the same day when speaking of this
epic movie.

I went out and bought it today. Reminds me how my Uncle started out,
but not the end lol

Ward is just a HARVARD bum, He should have gone to Sloan. CSX would be
a better railroad. but wait, if he went to Sloan he would have a better
lifestyle and career lol 

Balz to the wall BABY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B35rYEkYgvs

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 July 2009

That's funny. On the Attendance Policy thread on this site we have
people complaining about working to much being on call 24/7. On here
someone posts about the possiblity of a lower income due to the new
regs on July 16 which gives time off. People you can't have it both
ways. People didn't you think the railroads would try to get rid of
excisting contracts when the playing field changes? That was a no
brainer. They sure in the heck don't want to pay gaurentees for less
work. It now becomes a question of the unions. Do they have the
backbone to stand up and make the carriers honor the excisting
contracts? This is the last year and section 6 notices will be served
later this year for new negotiations. That would be the appropriate
measure let this contract end. One problem is it sometimes takes 3
years to get a new one and the carriers have to honor the old contract
under the RLA.

Name: Rail Rat
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 July 2009

Here are some operational and safety differences between the airlines
and the railroads that BOTH operate under the 
"Railway Labor Act"

They are regulated by the FAA
We   are regulated by the FRA

They use Flight Releases with Dispatcher Messages
We   use Train  Releases with Dispatcher Messages

They have FAA certified Captain and Co-pilot crews
We have (soon to both be FRA certified) Engineer and Conductor crews

They fly more miles
We roll more tonnage

They haul less revenue per trip
We   haul more revenue per trip

When they "crash" they take out a building
When   we "crash"   we take out a     town

They have "reserve" crews
We have "extra board" crews

They have reasonably good pay at the "major airlines"
We currently have reasonably good pay at "Class 1 railroads"


THEY HAVE A 100 HOUR CAP PER MONTH
WE WILL HAVE A 276 HOUR CAP PER MONTH

AND NOW WE ARE SUBJECT TO PAY CUTS????????????????????????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 July 2009

The BLET and UTU ought to have a blanket strike against all these class
1 railroads. Since they want to do something illegal, so should we. How
much more are the unions willing to lose? So far they do not have an
impressive "track record"

On backs and pocketbooks of employees 
The nation's major railroads have asked a federal court to permit them
to violate existing collective bargaining agreements with the UTU and
the BLET when the railroads implement new hours-of-service regulations
that take effect July 16. 

The soon-to-be-implemented hours-of-service limitations are directed by
Congress in the Rail Safety Improvement Act of 2008 (RSIA), whose intent
is to reduce train-crew fatigue and improve the quality of life of train
crews.

The lawsuit was filed by the carriers in U.S. district court in Ft.
Worth, Texas, and the UTU and the BLET intend to mount a vigorous
defense.

The carriers acknowledge in their lawsuit that they intend to implement
the new regulations as they fit; and, in so doing, may violate existing
labor agreements with respect to wage guarantees.

"Quite simply, the railroads have asked the court to overturn their
collective bargaining agreements with the UTU and the BLET," said UTU
International President Mike Futhey. "The carriers want court approval
to disregard collective bargaining agreements in violation of the
Railway Labor Act.

Name: me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 July 2009

Trivia Time:
   
    Who use to be a Trainmasster (A.K. Steel scab)at Queens Gate yard.
Then transferred to Indiana as a trainmaster.

Name: SAm
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 July 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 June 2009

I just saw this movie. It's called, 

"There will be blood."

I wonder if Ward was like this?
********************************************************
There are some dis-simalarities. The guy in the movie was not a
drooling spastic lunatic who cheated on his wife and family, and shit
on his workers 24/7. Everything else, though, is the same.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 July 2009

It was a water spout and never went over land.  Even if it did hit the
GOB it was not strong enough to do any damage...

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 July 2009

Photo: Twister misses CSX HQ building 
This photo was taken from the 27th floor of the AT&T building in
Jacksonville, Fla., at approximately 5 p.m. on Friday, June 26, 2009,
by an unidentified photographer. 

http://www.utu.org/tools/pics/CSX%20hurricane.jpg


Damnit!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 July 2009

I think I'll pass on the sorry, Goofy. I'll just take it as you owe me
one seeing you have this uncontrolling urge to troll almost every post
I've written. I'm begining to like the critisism and feel hurt that
snide remark wasn't directed towards me. I guess you can't win them
all.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 June 2009

Hello All-

I am seeking any information from anyone that knows:
(1) about the relationship or contract [if any] between CSX and
Goodyear Tire Co. to service/replace and/or repair its Goodyear tires
that are utilized, for instance, on backhoes including, but not limited
to, (a)is it a national agreement, i.e., are Goodyear tires used in all
the CSX operating states?; (b) who at CSX would be the person that
would negotiate for CSX with Goodyear on tire purchase and (c)service
"after the sale", if any, topics;

(2) Is there any studies that CSX did/does and/or that they rely upon
for working in the heat and protection of its MofW workers;

(3) What is the CSX policy (if there is one) on working conditions
(regarding heat exposure) it will allow its MofW workers to be exposed
to?

If anyone has this knowledge, I would prefer to use my email to receive
this information at sgordon@gordon-elias.com instead of a response to
this post and I would be extremely grateful to anyone that can shed
some light on these issues. You obviously do not need to give your name
to me. Thank you all for what you do.

Steve Gordon
http://www.Gordon-Elias.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 June 2009

NoMo


1000 MPG on the CSX but this is TOP SECRET


CSX just piggy backs Q363 or other trains on the Q377 back to the UP
Salem IL and drop off in Anderson IN or Avon IN for FREE.  Yes free
paid by the UP.  Just fucking the UP because CSX says you can not spell
StUPid with out UP. Now just put that in your MPG and bonuses.

Just the CSX way. Core Values. 


ID Dispatcher to UP 5483, Q377.   Set off 40 Q363 cars at Anderson,
BendOver  !!

CC: James R. Young UP CEO

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 June 2009

CSX will break their arm patting themselves on the back over a plan to
reduce CO2 emissions by 8% per revenue ton mile by 2011; but won't say
anything about the fatalities they cause over "its vast and
economically vital train operations." 

Revenue ton mile? As opposed to what? Perhaps Bob Sullivan can define
what a revenue ton mile is so every one understands just what a 8%
reduction really is...but it makes Mike and the BoD look good which is
all that really matters. 


CSX Announces Commitment to Cut CO2 Emissions by Eight Percent 
Emissions Reduction Goal is First-Ever Commitment to EPA from a Major
Transportation Provider

JACKSONVILLE, Fla., June 29 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- CSX today
announced a plan to reduce the CO2 emissions associated with its vast
and economically vital train operations by 8% per revenue ton mile by
2011. The company made its commitment as part of its participation in
the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Climate Leaders Program,
a voluntary program for businesses to inventory and reduce greenhouse
gas emissions.

CSX's commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions through the
Climate Leaders Program is the first ever from a major U.S.
transportation provider. CSX's commitment will reduce C02 emissions by
2.4 million tons -- the equivalent of taking 441,000 cars off the road
each year, or burning 5,598,000 fewer barrels of oil.

"Freight rail is the most fuel-efficient and environmentally friendly
surface transportation option. We are pleased to enhance these benefits
with our firm commitment to reduce CSX's carbon footprint," said
Michael J. Ward, Chairman, President and CEO of CSX. "The Climate
Leaders Partnership shows that by working together, business and
government can serve our nation's economic needs while improving our
environment."

In CSX's non-railroad operations, the company plans to use building
space more efficiently, improve HVAC systems, and install
energy-efficient lighting and automatic computer-shutdown software.

"As we work to strengthen our nation's infrastructure, stimulate the
economy and compete in a global marketplace, investment in freight
railroads will be critical," said Pennsylvania Governor Edward G.
Rendell. "CSX's commitment to improving the environmental efficiency
of its operations will further drive improvement in what is already one
of the most environmentally friendly forms of surface transportation and
strengthen our country's position as a global leader of a sustainable
economy."

Since 1980, the railroad industry has invested more than $1 billion to
upgrade its fleet with more efficient, Tier II clean air locomotives
and has improved locomotive fuel efficiency by over 80%. By the end of
2009, an additional 1,200 CSX locomotives will be upgraded to further
reduce emissions and lower fuel consumption by nearly 10 million
gallons. CSX has a long standing commitment to air quality and clean
operations.

CSX Transportation Inc. is a principal operating company of CSX
Corporation. CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is one of
the leading transportation companies, providing rail, intermodal and
rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network
spans 21,000 miles with service to 23 eastern states and the District of
Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river, and lake ports.
More information about CSX Corporation and its subsidiaries is
available at the company's web site, www.csx.com.

Contact: 

CSX Transportation
Bob Sullivan
1-877-835-5279 


SOURCE CSX Corporation

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 June 2009

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 June 2009

No one talked about the DOW you dipschidt. Go away isn't it time for
your meds.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
RRJ
No one rang your chain, go to 23 june 2009, then say sorry. You may not
know it, but most post's are not directed your way old man.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 June 2009

I just saw this movie. It's called, 

"There will be blood."

I wonder if Ward was like this?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 June 2009

orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/orl-locscott-maxwell-column-sunrail062809jun28,0,6827366.column

OrlandoSentinel.com
Friendly advice for SunRail's boosters: Get real
Scott Maxwell

TAKING NAMES

June 28, 2009

So, SunRail's back on track. Maybe. Sort of.

I'm not sure whether to cheer or roll my eyes.

Inherently, I support transit options and rail. And I think it's
shortsighted and simple-minded to blast this project because it costs a
lot of money and wouldn't carry many people at first.

That's how the first leg of most any rail system would be.

I have to imagine there were skeptics back in 1869 when New York's
first underground tunnel — a mere 312 feet in length beneath Broadway —
was constructed. It certainly wasn't practical.

But the visionaries knew then that you must walk before you can run.
And that first step is the most painful.

That said, I have never liked the way this town's "visionaries" have
handled rail. 

They can be heavy-handed, condescending and less than forthcoming with
the facts.

They offer vague and misleading answers to legitimate questions and
then seem puzzled by the fact that everyone doesn't jump on board.

They help create the very gadflies that drive them so batty.

There's also the fact that so many of them seem to have their hands in
the cookie jar.

I remember last month when we got our hands on the documents that
showed how much public money had been spent promoting this thing — well
over $1 million on lobbying and public relations alone.

More than a quarter-million of that went to the regional civic group,
Myregion.org. Taxpayers already support this well-intentioned but
amorphous chamber-of-commerce outgrowth, which is bigger on feel-good
talk than concrete results.

So the taxpayers help fund this group ... which then bills the
taxpayers for more money ... so they can convince everyone to spend
more taxpayer money on a massive project. Nice gig if you can get it.

(And by the way: Nearly $1 million for sell-jobs that failed? Maybe
someone should throw a few expected-results clauses into the next
contract.)

There are a lot of people who support this project. SunRail proponents
should find more of them who are willing to give help — without also
giving them a bill.

Even the so-called "deadline" that was miraculously extended last
week was an artificial one.

It was simply a date CSX chose to try to force lawmakers to strike a
deal as quickly as possible. There's a reason that CSX both set the
deadline and now agreed to extend it — because the company is going to
make out like a bandit.

That's something else proponents have trouble admitting. When pressed
about whether CSX is getting too much from taxpayers, they resort to
the well-that's-how-everyone-else-did-it response.

My mother didn't buy that excuse when I was back in grade school.
Maybe I need to sic Mom on the SunRail strategists.

On the flip side, though, you have an extreme (and extremely loud)
portion of the anti-rail crowd that complains about everything
associated with the project.

Some have legitimate concerns about costs and getting more trains
coming through their towns.

But some simply don't want to spend any money — on this or most
anything else. They propose loopy, unresearched ideas like extending
Disney's monorail to downtown. They assume everyone who likes rail is
getting a payoff. And they accuse most any medium that won't parrot
their conspiracy theories of getting paid for their silence.

I don't blame SunRail supporters for giving up on trying to placate
that crowd. Some don't want to be placated. They are most happy when
miserable ... and eager to make others feel the same way.

And then somewhere between the constant complainers and paternalistic
pom-pom shakers are what I think is the majority of us — people who
want more transit options but have some legitimate concerns and
questions. 

We are the people who understand that SunRail would simply be a first
step, but a crucial one. People who understand that nothing this
significant comes cheap.

But we are also people who expect those championing this project to act
more like responsible stewards of the public's interest than
starry-eyed cheerleaders. People who want public officials to drive a
hard bargain on their behalf. And people who want civic leaders who
will do that without looking to get paid for it.

The best thing proponents have going for them is the possibility of
tapping even more stimulus money for the project.

They should tout that fact, answer all the hard questions and retool
their sales pitch — perhaps with some new pitchmen.

Scott Maxwell can be reached at smaxwell@orlandosentinel.com or
407-420-6141.



Copyright © 2009, Orlando Sentinel

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 June 2009

No one talked about the DOW you dipschidt. Go away isn't it time for
your meds.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 June 2009

Fool's always run in a pact. It is not buy low and sell high. It is buy
on the dip and sell when it is time. The dow has only 30 companies. That
is by far not an indicator of the market.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2009

Autopsy: Drugs, no alcohol in murder-suicide dad 
June 24, 2009 - 4:45pm

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1703959

FREDERICK, Md. (AP) - The Frederick County Sheriff's office says an
autopsy found a father involved in a Middletown murder-suicide that
claimed the lives of his wife and their three young children had
prescription drugs in his system, but not alcohol.

The autopsy also found 34-year-old Christopher Alan Wood died of a
self-inflicted gunshot wound. The sheriff's office said the drugs
matched those found in the home and the case is being closed as a
murder-suicide.

Police say Wood, an account manager for railroad operator CSX Corp.,
shot his children and 33-year-old wife, Francis Billotti Wood, with a
small-caliber handgun as they slept on the night of April 16 and then
killed himself with a shotgun the next day.


(Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This
material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.)

FREDERICK, Md. (AP) - The Frederick County Sheriff's office says an
autopsy found a father involved in a Middletown murder-suicide that
claimed the lives of his wife and their three young children had
prescription drugs in his system, but not alcohol.

The autopsy also found 34-year-old Christopher Alan Wood died of a
self-inflicted gunshot wound. The sheriff's office said the drugs
matched those found in the home and the case is being closed as a
murder-suicide.

Police say Wood, an account manager for railroad operator CSX Corp.,
shot his children and 33-year-old wife, Francis Billotti Wood, with a
small-caliber handgun as they slept on the night of April 16 and then
killed himself with a shotgun the next day.


(Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This
material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.)

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 June 2009

UTU Rail Safety Alert No. 1 (revised) 
(Following is the first safety alert, revised June 22, issued by the
UTU's recently appointed Rail Safety Task Force. 

UTU International President Mike Futhey appointed the task force in
response to a sharp spike in railroad on-duty employee fatalities. 

The UTU and the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen also
have petitioned the Federal Railroad Administration for an emergency
order to prohibit the use by railroads of one-person operating crews,
including in remote control operations.)

SAFETY ALERT NO. 1 (revised)

While the UTU has consistently taken exception to single-person
operations, in reality it exists today. Accordingly, our members should
be aware of the safest course in an unsafe situation.

UTU members working in single-person operations are strongly encouraged
to question any order by a railroad official to perform any activities
that may result in an injury, loss of limb or life -- short of
insubordination.  

If your request to be relieved of such a task is denied, please
immediately contact your local chairperson, general chairperson, local
legislative representative or state legislative director for further
handling. 

In doing so, document these actions as soon as you are able, providing
as much information as possible, including witnesses, times, dates,
locations and names of all involved.

Following is the proper procedure to handle any types of incidents you
feel cannot be safely accomplished by a one-person operation:

1) Call for help, such as a utility employee and/or the mechanical
department to assist with the function while the RCO operator maintains
control of the RCL transmitter (belt pack) and provides three-step
protection. All blue flag rules still apply.

Following are FRA regulations relating to the functions of a "utility
employee."

A utility employee properly attached to a train or yard crew, per the
requirements of 49 CFR 218.22(c)(1), (2), (3) and (4), may go on, under
or between rolling equipment that the crew is called to operate to
perform any of the six functions permitted by 49 CFR 218.22(c)(5),
without blue signal protection.  

The following are the only six functions permitted:

1) Set or release hand brakes. 

2) Couple or uncouple air hoses and other electrical or mechanical
connections. 

3) Prepare rail cars for coupling. (This means opening knuckles,
adjusting drawbars, arranging air hoses etc.  It does not mean making
repairs, such as changing a knuckle or replacing an air hose.)

4) Set wheel blocks or wheel chains. 

5) Conduct air brake tests to include cutting air brake components in
or out and position retaining valves. 

6) Inspect, test, install, remove or replace a rear-end marking device
or end-of-train device.

Under all other circumstances, a utility employee working on, under, or
between railroad rolling equipment must be provided with blue signal
protection in accordance with §§ 218.23 through 218.30 of Subpart B to
Part 218.

2) If help is not available, notify management that you are concerned
the function you are being required to perform is unsafe, and that you
would prefer not to perform the function.

3)  If the carrier official (supervisor, manager) insists that you
perform the unsafe function anyway, tell him/her you feel this would
place your personal safety in jeopardy and ask that they reconsider
your request.

4) If the carrier official denies your request, perform the function as
instructed, taking every safety protection available, including:

a) Making sure everyone working on both ends of the yard knows where
you are, and that you are about to be on your own under or between cars
on the track and without blue-flag protection.

b) Make sure the belt pack is set to prevent the locomotive from
moving.

c) Secure cars on a cut located on the oppose side of where the
locomotive is attached (to prevent rollback).

d) Keep a constant eye and ear out for any movement whatsoever.

e) Keep the belt pack on, to ensure the man-down feature is operable
(or as near as safely possible without creating a tripping hazard),
just in case it's needed.

5) After being required to perform the function, report these
occurrences to you local legislative representative, safety
chairpersons and local chairpersons. 


In solidarity,

UTU Rail Safety Task Force

Greg Hynes, UTU assistant Arizona state legislative director
Steve Evans, UTU Arkansas state legislative director
Jerry Gibson, UTU Michigan state legislative director
Scott Olson, UTU Arizona state legislative director

For more information on the UTU Rail Safety Task Force and its mission,
click here:

www.utu.org/worksite/rail_safety_taskforce/safety_taskforce_home.htm
 
June 23, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 23 June 2009

Ape:

Citigroup is run worst than CSX and they robbed so many people. 
There are lots of reasons to sell and buy at different times.

Here is just a little info on Citigroup.

Rumor has it that Citigroup and GM may soon be removed from the Dow
Jones Industrial Average. If this happens, who would take their place?
John Prestbo, Editor and Executive Director of the Dow Jones Indexes
and Chairman of the Dow Jones Index Oversight Committee joins The
Takeaway with a look at who makes it on the Dow and why.

"We're running an index, not a portfolio. So it's not like we're
making investment decisions, we're making representation decisions."
— John Prestbo, chariman of the Dow Jones Index Oversight Committee, on
the Dow as an economic indicator


Does anyone really know the truth on anything anymore?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 June 2009

I think it has more to do with the artificial inflation of stock prices
recently. It's obvious some are pushing stock prices up then selling
them off to make a quick buck. CSX in my opinion will make money and
the stock will rise in the next few years. Transportation stocks are
one of the geiger counters for the stock index. I can't complain I
sold off everything in my 401K bought CSX stock when it was around
$23.84 a share and have recovered around 27% of my losses since March
of this year. I'm not in a position to wait any longer with the
financial advisors constant advise of buy low sell high especially in
mutual funds. I'm to the point of having 5 years left to work till
retirement. To have the stock market crash twice in the past 10 years
has been devistating. Citi Group needs capital just like TCI did and
railroad stocks are one investment that still has some value. I don't
look at the experts anymore they were the problem to begin with that
caused this mess. If I still had 15-20 years left to work then my
investment stratigy would be different. I wouldn't be so worried at
this point investing has to become conservative. When CSX stock gets
high enough I'll sell and put it in a money market. Once retired I'll
be no longer confined to the strict policies of a 401K with it's
limited investment choices.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 June 2009

I guess Citigroup thinks CSX sucks too xD


Citigroup sells CSX
Citigroup Inc. has sold off about 18 million shares of
Jacksonville-based CSX Corp. recently, according to an SEC filing last
week. That leaves Citigroup with 3.3 million CSX shares, or 0.9 percent
of the stock. Citigroup had owned 5.4 percent when CSX filed its annual
proxy statement in March.

With Citigroup selling off most of its stake, the only party owning
more than 5 percent of CSX would be Capital Research Global Investors,
which was listed in the proxy with a 6.6 percent stake. The SEC
requires investors to disclose ownership stakes of 5 percent or more.

Citigroup’s filing did not give any details on its sell-off of CSX
shares.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 June 2009

Now that's an old head, he had 10 years before Goober hired in and I
wasn't even a twinkle in my old man's eye. 

I bet he could tell a few stories about the "Golden Age" of
railroading! How about it Jet...there's a lot of us on here that
would
enjoy a history lesson, guys like you are hard to find...not too many
of you left!

Name: JET
E-mail: Jetcherokee@yahoo.com
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 June 2009

To whom this may concern:I worked for the railroad over forty(40 yrs.) I
worked as crew caller, fireman and enginer some times in engine service,
I tranfered to brakeman a few yrs. later and worked as yard conductor,
road brakeman,I started for the B&O Railroad in 1953 and I also worked
for the Tennessee Railroad back in 1944 as crew caller,o.k.last but
lease, The CSXhad the railroad when I Retired in Aug. 1993, let me tell
you this, when the CSX had taken over, yes it was a new ball game, The
CSX wasn"t a railroad co., they was more for Export and import, well
I"ll shut up now, may have said to much, all tho I don"t think so.
Thank you. Sincerely:Jet.

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 June 2009

This Week's Message 
Hello, this is Michael Ward:

On July 16, new Hours of Service rules will go into effect, requiring
changes for both T & E and Signal employees. These changes, mandated by
the federal Rail Safety Improvement Act of 2008, will have a positive
impact on safety by reducing fatigue in the workplace.

A cross-functional team of CSXT employees is preparing training
materials to ensure that all covered employees fully understand the new
rules as well as the FRA's resulting changes to its record-keeping
requirements. Technology is revising our computer programs for crew
calling and recordkeeping to follow the new rules.

Our team has worked with other railroad and labor representatives in an
advisory group convened by the FRA to develop the new Hours of Service
recordkeeping rules. We have also talked extensively with labor
representatives about how the new law will affect covered employees and
our collective bargaining agreements. Our goal is to work together for a
smooth transition.

You will be hearing more from your managers as we near the July 16
implementation date. Materials are being distributed to post in the
workplace as well as on the Gateway so that all employees covered by
this law will be well informed as this process unfolds.

These new rules are designed to ensure that covered employees get
adequate rest between times on duty. One aspect of the new law requires
10 hours of undisturbed rest, which means that no one acting on behalf
of the company may call a covered employee during this 10 hour period.


The law makes significant changes in hours of service rules for covered
employees, so it is critical that we all work together to make sure the
new rules are well understood and implemented properly.

Thanks for listening, have a safe, productive day, and I'll talk to
you again next week.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 June 2009

Now that's a crock of shit if I've ever seen one!

"The International’s General Fund, as detailed in the most recent GS&T
report, has grown since the Futhey administration took office almost 18
months ago -- from $2.1 million to $4 million, which is a 90 percent
increase".

Hey Kim...put the union's financials on the website and let the
members judge for themselves. The General Fund has almost doubled in 18
months...how did that happen? Lets see...increase in dues...more
members...reduce and/or cut redundant expenses...fail to act on members
claims and disciplinary proceedings, you are now monitoring instead,
just to name a few things the union is doing for their membership.

I just love this,"Separately, our strike fund has grown by 45 percent,
to $2.7 million...". Is there any wonder why the UTU won't call a
strike? Because the don't have the money to last more than a couple of
days! Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if they have the money pledged
as collateral!

Thompson goes on to say "Our investment advisers are paid directly for
sound financial advice and do not profit by moving our money from one
investment alternative to another, or as a percentage of short-term
investment gains. As a result, our International finances have
withstood the effects of this recession and associated financial
calamities far better than most organizations." 

Most "Investment Advisers" are paid based on the value of the
portfolio they manage, usually on a quarterly valuation. Now this is
where I have a problem...Advisers move money based on the short term,
mid term and long team goals of the client, in this case the UTU.
Thompson's statement,"...our International finances have withstood
the effects of this recession and associated financial calamities far
better than most organizations." just doesn't track.

Perhaps they have fared better than most but not without moving money.
They were either invested in CD's which pay very little; or invested
in stocks which don't pay much better but appreciate in value as the
Stock market increases. Remember, Thompson said earlier that the strike
fund grew 45% and that the International's money grew from $7.5 million
to $13 million (73% increase). You don't have gains like that in 18
months being invested in CD's, T-Bills and high
grade corporate bonds...in order to achieve results like that, you
have to be invested in stocks. Which is it Kim?

The UTU is playing their membership for chumps...think about it for a
moment then ask yourself this...is it really true? Then ask you LC for
the last annual financial statement and the most recent quarterly
report and see what happens!

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 June 2009

Spending your dues money wisely 
By Kim Thompson
UTU General Secretary & Treasurer

Nobody spends someone else’s dollars as carefully as we spend our own.

The UTU International leadership is especially sensitive to the fact
that members entrust us with their own hard-earned dollars, and every
member rightfully expects their union to gain the most value for their
dues money. We do not take this obligation lightly.

Since taking office in January 2008, we have instituted new cost
controls and conservative investment policies that, even in the face of
significant furloughs by rail carriers and problems in financial
markets, have made the UTU more efficient and financially secure.

The International’s General Fund, as detailed in the most recent GS&T
report, has grown since the Futhey administration took office almost 18
months ago -- from $2.1 million to $4 million, which is a 90 percent
increase. 

The General Fund pays for International operations, including employee
wages and benefits, travel tied to assistance provided general and
local committees of adjustment, and headquarters rent.

Separately, our strike fund has grown by 45 percent, to $2.7 million,
and our convention fund is on track to have the necessary minimum on
hand to pay traditional and contemplated costs of the eleventh
quadrennial convention in 2011.

Total International funds have grown from $7.5 million, when we took
office in January 2008, to more than $13 million, which is an increase
of more than 70 percent. This is in the face of sharp carrier cutbacks
of employees -- many being UTU members -- in response to a sour
economy.

Among cost-cutting actions was the reduction of one full-time
administrative officer in the Cleveland headquarters and redistribution
of that work to headquarters staff and other International officers. We
have gone from 15 full-time International officers to 11, which is more
than a 25 percent reduction. 

Travel expenses have been reduced by combining International officer
assignments and assigning officers geographically closer to the
committees they are assisting. Every travel expense is checked to
ensure it is necessary and proper.

Our International funds are invested conservatively so they are
available when needed without undue risk of principal. 

Our investment advisers are paid directly for sound financial advice
and do not profit by moving our money from one investment alternative
to another, or as a percentage of short-term investment gains. As a
result, our International finances have withstood the effects of this
recession and associated financial calamities far better than most
organizations.

The UTUIA, meanwhile, earned more than $300,000 from operations during
the first quarter of 2009. The UTUIA remains strong with more than $23
million in surplus, as recently validated through an annual audit. 

As for the DIPP, premiums exceeded claims for the first quarter 2009,
which boosted the fund’s balance. We continue monitoring this fund, as
claims are tied directly to the level of carrier discipline. 

We have met -- and continue to meet -- with carrier officers to discuss
what we consider to be arbitrary discipline that unjustifiably damages
employee morale, impeding our ultimate goal of providing world-class
transportation service. 

At the local level, we are assisting local treasurers through
workshops, individual assistance and the UTU University to better equip
them to carry out their duties in managing their local’s funds.

The financial state of the United Transportation Union is strong and
secure, and we intend to keep it that way through careful spending and
improved productivity within every department and through every
activity of the International.
 
June 19, 2009

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 June 2009

Hey Joe:

CSX is just getting ready for the new HOS law kicking in and the Summer
vacation vacancies. I don't think it'll get everyone back to
work...maybe 25-30% of those furloughed.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2009

They're re-establishing jobs on the C&O like there's no tomarrow. The
furlough lists are shrinking every day. Hope this trend spreads to the
other divisions.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2009

Memorial day for rail workers 
"Black Shirt Friday" meant to commemorate those killed on the job  
  
http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=811838&category=BUSINESS

First published in print: Friday, June 19, 2009 
 
Prompted by the recent death of railroad conductor Jared Boehlke at the
CSX Selkirk yard, Railroad Workers United plans "Black Shirt Friday"
today to commemorate all rail personnel killed on the job.

    
Boehlke's death on May 10 brought the national death toll this year to
12. Despite a 25 percent decline in rail traffic, the rate of employee
deaths has been on the rise, according to the Federal Railroad
Administration. 

Boehlke, 33, was hit by a train while coupling cars. He belonged to a
railroad family; his father and brother are conductors and his uncle is
a retired engineer. 

To mark the event, Railroad Workers United is asking its members across
the U.S. to wear black shirts as a show of solidarity. Black Shirt
Friday will also "protest the deteriorating situation" in safety
measures, according to the railroad workers news release.

The union wants to have the Friday before Father's Day declared
"Railroad Workers Memorial Day" by the railroad community. 

-- Juliette Price

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 June 2009

It would be great if all these Liers got pinched getting kick backs from
CSX.

http://www.wvrecord.com/news/219607-n.c.-plaintiffs-file-legal-malpractice-suit-in-w.va.


N.C. plaintiffs file legal malpractice suit in W.Va.

Thursday, June 18, 2009

By Justin Anderson (jdanderson70@gmail.com) 
 
Cook 
  
 
Bernsen 
WHEELING - Fifteen North Carolina residents are suing a number of Texas
and Georgia attorneys in federal court, claiming the lawyers mishandled
a consolidated lawsuit against CSX Transportation.

The lawsuit was filed June 3 in U.S. District Court in Wheeling. Named
as defendants are law firms Provost and Umphrey and Law Offices of
David E. Bernsen and individual lawyers Rodney B. Barnwell, Matthew C.
Matheny, Matthew Willis, David E. Bernsen, Edward Shuff Cook, Donald F.
Ruzicka and 10 unnamed lawyers.

Cook is the nephew of Warren McGraw, former state Supreme Court justice
and current circuit judge in Wyoming County.

The plaintiffs, both individuals and representatives of estates, all
had previously filed lawsuits in different states alleging that while
they worked for CSX, having to maneuver on large and irregular ballast
caused them to develop arthritis and other injuries.

The defendants consolidated the cases and filed a lawsuit in Marshall
County in 2004, the complaint says.

But the lawyers failed to properly handle the litigation in a number of
ways, according to the plaintiffs.

Among the plaintiffs' allegations are that the lawyers failed to
timely engage expert and medical witnesses; failed to investigate the
plaintiffs medical claims; failed to investigate the admissibility of
certain evidence.

The plaintiffs also alleged they were kept in the dark about
developments in the case and that the lawyers failed to properly
prepare for and represent three of the plaintiffs at a trial that was
scheduled for June 4, 2007.

Foremost in the list of allegations is that the lawyers settled on
behalves of all but one of the plaintiffs - Carroll W. Garner - for
amounts that were less than what the plaintiffs believe they would have
received from a jury.

One of the plaintiffs, Lloyd D. Wheeler, alleges that his case was
settled without his authority.

In Garner's case, the complaint says his representation failed to tell
him that he needed to be at the trial and didn't engage a medical
witness to support Garner's claims. Under these circumstances,
Garner's case was dismissed by the court, the complaint says.

The other plaintiffs are: Ernest R. Bryant; the estate of Mitchell L.
Cockman by personal representative Elaine Cockman; David H. Davenport
Jr.; Hiram T. Davidson, Sr.; Jerry W. Hinson; Bobby C. Lambert; John S.
McIver; Russell D. Pait; the estate of Jerry M. Snead by personal
representative Linda C. Snead; A.B. Strickland; Matthew Stroman, Jr.;
Gregory Warnock; and James R. Williams.

The plaintiffs are seeking compensatory damages for emotional distress
and monetary loss and reimbursement of legal costs.

Donald J. Tennant Jr. and Jay T. McCamic are representing the
plaintiffs. The case is before U.S. District Court Judge Frederick P.
Stamp Jr.

U.S. District Court case number: 5:09-CV-61

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 June 2009

The rail gangs and tye forces have always traveled the system to work on
the track. It's not a job they hire local people to work temporarily
90% of the work is done by machine. Years ago most of it was done by
hand they hired hundreds for the summer they would travel around living
in camp cars. Those days are long gone. NS was still using camp cars up
until last year when they were forced to shut them down because of
deplorable living conditions.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 June 2009

Hey Lloyd:

Yeah...you're right, it's a start. I'm just sorry it took a tragedy
to get the UTU to get off their ass.

If I'm not mistaken, both the UTU and BLEt had preexisting "Safety
Task Forces", in the case of the UTU, they just tweaked it a little
and gave it a big red button. Lets see if it's not just for show!

Personally, I think the only reason the union and FRA has acted is for
self preservation. I'm sure both were inundated with emails and phone
calls, not to mention this site, demanding action.

It's up to the membership to keep the momentum going!

Name: layton fugnutz
E-mail: laytonfugnutz@csx.biz
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 June 2009

lazy SOB's from all over the country come here to repair track while
thousands remain without jobs RIGHT HERE. Can I go to Alabama with a
banjo on my knee and get paid 40 an hour? no.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 June 2009

Guys, you know I usually don't speak well of either of our unions but
this time you have to give them a little credit.  Getting this thing to
the FRA and coming together is very positive for us.  I'm with you on
the fact that our unions have very little backbone and our probably in
with the carriers but what else do we have besides them?  It's obvious
that we can't come together as workers so I guess the BLE and the UTU
are all we have.  I will never give up on trying to get everyone united
and getting a railroad wide sick out day but unless some guys grow a
fucking pair this is all just a wild dream.  
This just in....do not try and get 3 step unless you have all eyes on
your engineer and no 100 percent without a doubt he is at the controls
of the locomotive.  These pansies will do just about anything to fire
your ass.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 June 2009

Hey Z:

Not having anything better to do, I was checking out the the Rail
Safety Task Force on the UTU website:
            
http://www.utu.org/worksite/rail_safety_taskforce/task_force.htm

That's one hell of a "Task Force"...4 men in all, 3 State
Legislative Directors, an Assistant State Legislative Director; 2 of
the 4 from Arizona, 1 each from Arkansas and Michigan. 

With a "Task Force" that impressive, the carriers must be shaking in
their boots.

This must be the equivalent of a "Safety" day for the insiders.
Several rounds of Golf a week, lunches every day and cocktails every
night, all on the members nickle while "lobbying" for your safety.

I know everyone feels safer just knowing these 4 got your back!

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 June 2009

My exact sentiments, NoMo. I read it earlier today and thought, where
were the unions when all this crap started and not a peep out of them.
Now we have more union money allocated to another segment of useless
union BS and all remains the same.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 June 2009

No Doh!

So what's new? Same old sputum out of the union...beg, cajole threaten
to tell but don't be insubordinate, and then crater.

Pure eye wash for the membership...something to make you feel good,
the union is looking out for me. I've got news for you...the union
leadership is looking out for themselves!

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 June 2009

Rail safety alert 
(Following is the first safety alert issued by the UTU’s recently
appointed Rail Safety Task Force. UTU International President Mike
Futhey appointed the task force in response to a sharp spike in
railroad on-duty employee fatalities.

The UTU and the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen also
have petitioned the Federal Railroad Administration for an emergency
order to prohibit the use by railroads on one-person operating crews,
including remote control operations.)

SAFETY ALERT NO. 1

UTU members working in single-person operations are strongly encouraged
to question any order by a railroad official to perform any activities
that may result in an injury, loss of limb or life -- short of
insubordination.  

If your request to be relieved of such a task is denied, please
immediately contact your local chairperson, general chairperson, local
legislative representative or state legislative director for further
handling. 

In doing so, document these actions as soon as you are able, providing
as much information as possible, including witnesses, times, dates,
locations and names of all involved.

Following is the proper procedure to handle any types of incidents you
feel cannot be safely accomplished by a one-person operation:

1) Call for help, such as a utility employee, who can perform the
function (i.e. change the knuckle, adjust the draw bar) while the RCO
operator maintains control of the RCL transmitter (belt pack) and
provides three-step protection.

2) If help is not available, notify management that you are concerned
the function you are being required to perform is unsafe, and that you
would prefer not to perform the function.

3)  If the carrier official (supervisor, manager) insists that you
perform the unsafe function anyway, tell him/her you feel this would
place your personal safety in jeopardy and ask that they reconsider
your request.

4) If the carrier official denies your request, perform the function as
instructed, taking every safety protection available, including:

a) Making sure everyone working on both ends of the yard knows where
you are, and that you are about to be on your own under or between cars
on the track and without blue-flag protection.

b) Make sure the belt pack is set to prevent the locomotive from
moving.

c) Secure cars on a cut located on the oppose side of where the
locomotive is attached (to prevent rollback).

d) Keep a constant eye and ear out for any movement whatsoever.

e) Keep the belt pack on, to ensure the man-down feature is operable
(or as near as safely possible without creating a tripping hazard),
just in case it's needed.

5) After being required to perform the function, report these
occurrences to you local legislative representative, safety
chairpersons and local chairpersons. 

In solidarity,

UTU Rail Safety Task Force

Greg Hynes, UTU assistant Arizona state legislative director
Steve Evans, UTU Arkansas state legislative director
Jerry Gibson, UTU Michigan state legislative director
Scott Olson, UTU Arizona state legislative director

For more information on the UTU Rail Safety Task Force and its mission,
click here:

http://www.utu.org/worksite/rail_safety_taskforce/safety_taskforce_home.htm

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 June 2009

CSXT Prepares For New Law That Affects Hours of Service Rules

Released:  June 16, 2009

Effective July 16, 2009, the Rail Safety Improvement Act of 2008 (RSIA)
imposes significant changes to hours of service (HOS) rules for Train
and Engine Service and Signal employees that will have a positive
impact on fatigue in the workplace. 

Changes for T&E employees (excluding passenger operations) under the
new law include:

Prohibiting an employee from accumulating in a single calendar month
more than 276 hours of (i) on duty time, (ii) time spent waiting for or
in deadhead transportation to the place of final release, and (iii) time
spent in any other mandatory service for the carrier; 
Prohibiting an employee from accumulating in a single calendar month
more than 40 hours of limbo time (defined as time after 12 hours on
duty spent waiting for or in deadhead transportation to the place of
final release), dropping to a limit of 30 hours on October 16, 2009; 
Requiring an employee to receive 48 hours off duty at his or her home
terminal after initiating an on-duty period for six consecutive
calendar days.   An exception allows a seventh day of work to return to
the home terminal, provided the employee then receives 72 hours off
duty; 
Requiring an employee to receive at least 10 consecutive hours of
undisturbed rest between tours of duty; 
Requiring an employee to receive additional undisturbed rest if limbo
time (as defined above) was accrued on a previous tour of duty.
Changes for Signal employees under the new law include:

Requiring an employee to receive at least 10 consecutive hours of
undisturbed rest between tours of duty; 
Eliminating dual HOS requirements for signal employees driving motor
vehicles.   These employees will now be covered only by FRA HOS rules.

A cross-functional CSXT team has been actively engaged both internally
and externally preparing for implementation of the new HOS rules by
doing the following:

Participation with other railroad and labor representatives in a
Railroad Safety Advisory Committee (RSAC) Working Group convened by FRA
to develop new HOS record-keeping and reporting requirements.   FRA
recently issued its amended recordkeeping rule, which largely follows
the consensus recommendations of the Working Group. 
Discussions of the major new T&E HOS rules with labor representatives
to assure a complete understanding of how the new rules will impact our
work force and collective bargaining agreements so that we can work
together towards a smooth transition. 
Revision of crew calling and HOS recordkeeping computer programs to
reflect the new rules.   This process will continue as FRA issues
additional interpretations of the new rules. 
Development of a training plan and materials for managers and employees
to ensure that employees fully understand the new HOS rules and the
process for recording the additional information required by those
rules. As we get closer to the July implementation, we will continue to
update employees on how the law applies to CSXT operations and how
employees will be affected.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 June 2009

This may also help Mr.Smith


http://www.trainlawblog.com/2009/02/federal-railroad-safety-act-1/frsas-sharp-teeth-starting-to-bite-railroads/


http://www.osha.gov/dep/oia/whistleblower/acts/frsa.html


http://railroadworkersunited.org/sites/rwu.prometheuslabor.com/files/CSX%20Harrassment%20FRA%20Report.pdf

Name: csmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 June 2009

does anyone have a phone number of an FRA AGENT in Georiga,  I had an
injury requiring surgery, and was told at my investigation during a
break, that if I only reported one injury, the plant manager would have
a talk with me when I got back to work, making me think I would keep my
job, but they fired me anyway. They only reported one injury and showed
the second injury as non reportable

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 June 2009

I am so glad working in an environment now where someones hard work
ethic is appreciated.  I left this crap hole this past year.  CSX can
honestly go to hell. UTU and the BLE can follow them...:0)  I honestly
felt while I was there that I did a serious crime and I was assigned
community service, but just got paid for it.  But of course, I worked
in the Baltimore Terminal.  From what I here, I heard other
trainmasters around the system (even the REDI Center) threatens
employees who do something wrong that they will send them to Baltimore
if they do something else wrong.  LMAOOOO  HAVE A SAFE CSX DAY!!!

Name: Johnny Cash
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 June 2009

Hey SillyBadAssTrainmaster

If you do not want to give your name then who were your trainmaster
instuctors?   I can just about guess one of them based upon your
comments.   You are just in Stage 1 of your career, wait until you find
out what is demanded of you later from the Nazi Management.

BTW  bring your wife, girlfriend, sister or boyfriend over to the BBQ
and you show all of us what you can do with your limp gay hot dog you
claim to have.

Real Man in Black

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 June 2009

badd$$mofo: 
maybe you cant read, mikewardisgay = mike ward ( the guy that feeds you
cock when he feels like it) is gay at gmail.com = google mail.com

why u keep posting with some lame non existant email tells me 
1. you aint a trainmaster
2. you aint got the balls
3. trying to be internet tough guy anonymously...

Tell Ward i said hello next time you have to kneel.

Name: Just out of training
E-mail: BaddA$$MoFoMastah@csx.net
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 June 2009

Oh I hear you brother! Barney Frank reminds me of a Gay Elmer Fudd. But
it seems you may have a problem.

Gays are like flies? 

Are you saying that Gay's buzz around you so much that you need a
swatter?

Well you may have poopie in your pants.

What attracts flies may attract Gays 

I've heard that a fart is like a moose call for Gays

That was info from my roommate in Jax

Get back to us when you find out.

NoMo, 

That's so sweet you posted video from your Honeymoon

I wish you and the Misses the best of luck and a lage family!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 June 2009

I just can't stand it any longer...here's Just Out of Training's
final exam at Trainmaster school:

          http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80651161/

He'll fit in well...you can see for yourself why women love him!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 June 2009

Barney Frank, I see him on TV every day. Prime mover behind Nancy
Polosi, and Obama. Who is really proud of this deviate thinking, queer.
I guess it must be the voters, and a few posters, on this site.

I never really liked queers or their lifestyle, however I always
thought it is OK as long as they stay away from me. Kinda like fly's
they are OK but stay away, I have a swatter.

This place is filling up with Queer bastards, time to cut them off and
refuse to comment, they will move to a queer site, looking for a hard
one. 

If we respond to the Queers they will call their queer friends, and yep
this site will be a Queer site. Time to cut it off.

Name: Just out of training
E-mail: BaddA$$MoFoMastah@csx.net
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 June 2009

Let's see,

1) mikewardisgay@gmail.com

2) no point talking about women

3) love to nibble on cock

4) re-insert cock in between your lips

5) camp

And  6) Does does "g" in gmail stand for Gay? Gay Mail?

Is that you?

Are you the Homo of this board?

You and the guy with the Intimidator hat should get togeher sweety

Have a Gay Day XD

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 June 2009

Just out of training:


there is no point talking about women, we all know that trainmasters
only love to nibble on cock....so if you are done playing on this
website, please re-insert cock in between your lips and do what they
taught you at training camp.

Name: Just out of training
E-mail: BaddA$$MoFoMastah@csx.net
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 June 2009

Wow. all you guys got is bad spelling as a comback?

Hay guys why don't you stop worring about my spelling and worry about
those extra inches your womens been looking for all these years.

Summer time is coming and its time to have those BBQs  Why don't you
invite me over and we will get to know each other. While Im there I'll
give those extra inches to your womens she been missing all these
years.

When God made me he told me I had two choices. You can be a master at
word smithing or you can have a big male member.

I asked, "Well what will open up doors for success?"

He said, well having good grammar and spelling will certainly get you
thru the door. But if your grammar sucks and also your spelling, and
they try to shut the door, you can block it open with your big dick.


Oh buy the way, when I come over tell your wife to wear those tight
short shorts :)


Have a safe day

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2009

no trainmaster has the balls to post their name ;)
besides thats probably a bs post, its too hard to type on a keyboard
with your head in someones lap.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2009

Alright trainmaster if that is a real post and your such a bad ass whats
your name.

Name: Santa Claus
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 15 June 2009

Just out of training didn't get his round mouth from eating candy
bars!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 June 2009

My...my...my:

26 years old and fresh out of training...how special.

This guys balls haven't dropped yet and he talking like he has juice!

Name: Just out of training
E-mail: BaddA$$MoFoMastah@csx.net
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 June 2009

Im a new trainmaster fresh out of training. Im 26 years old and got this
job at a job semminar at my Commuity College. If any of you give me any
shit you will help me make a name for myself. They taught me well and I
know exactly what to do. I have a very big spoon over my shoulder the
size of a spike puller. If you people hide or ignore me I will start
sturring this spoon till someone or ones rise to the top of the tird
pool. I will test you. If you don't like it I will fire your ass!

Oh ya,

If I see anyone wearing BLACK or if you are Black on June 19th YOU ARE
FIRED!

Have a safe day :)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for N/A
Posted: 15 June 2009

Willard Ohio,

  A furlowed empoylee has been run around the other forlowed
empoylee's to come in work safety a couple a days a week. The U.T.U.
general com. quote, this is an elective job, so the company can pick
anyone they want. So hows it feel to have the senority roster thrown in
the trash can. You are no longer empoylee's you are just part time
help.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 June 2009

I tell you what.  I am so glad I have left this place..:0)  CSX is
horrible.  Their management needs to realize "The way you treat your
people is the type of work ethic you will get in return"!!!  Then the
low life union (other wise known as the UTU) took close to $400.00 out
of my vacation paycheck this week!!!!  And what the hell have they done
for me in the last 6 months besides tell me what they are trained to say
(they can do that, they can do that, they can do that, they can do
that,etc...over and over again)??  HELL, WHAT THE F DID THEY DO FOR ME
MY WHOLE 4 year CAREER???  Both the BLET and UTU are in the companies
left hand pocket!!!  That place is the biggest joke.  So I can not wait
to see what they take out of my second vacation paycheck for
6/19/09-6/27/09 but I will definitely keep you up to date on just how
much our (more like yours now) unions are low lives (UTU & BLE).  I
have said it before and I will say it again (like my mother said), That
place is for prison inmates who just got out of prison and looking for a
career!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  For you old guys and mid-career guys (and
gals), I understand, your putting in your time to get your pention. 
Most importantly, you started when this place was a GREAT place to work
at.  But you new guys??  What the hell are you thinking about?? 
Honestly??  This place is TTTHHHEEEEE biggest joke.  And what more
proof do you need when this site was sued by CSX and went to court and
this site/owner WON???  HHHEEELLLOOOOOOO????????  When you work for a
place that has a web site that goes in depth about how bad it is, then
that web site gets sued by the company, AND THEN THE WEB SITE WINS??? 
What more proof do you need that you are working for/in a bad
environment??  But I had a guy who worked in my terminal who was SHOT
(YES, GUN, SHOT) twice and out of service.  I thought you had to pass a
background check to get into this job??  Criminal background check at
that.  Again, that place was a joke and I could go on and on and on...I
just want to say, I made some great friendships at CSX among my
so-called brothers and sisters (BLT & UTU, just not the the reps
BECAUSE I WAS SMART).  And I hope the best for all of you
non-management people.  For you management people, I work M-F, make
just as much as you do, and you know where you can go.  Oh, by the way,
I do not get called at 2:00a.m. for a derailment caused by another
idiotic, inner-city kid by my a manager (Superintendant in your case)
and I do not get called period when I leave the office..LMAOOOO
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  And I am working M-F, do not get called by an
ignorant caller who my 7 year old's IQ is higher than, etc. (Again, ON
AND ON AND ON AND ON)...LMAO When it comes to CSX callers and
management, lets face it, it doesn't take much!!!LMAOOOOOO  By all
means, I am not bragging (just to CSX LOW LIFE MANAGEMENT)..  Good luck
to you older guys.  This is one (and an on-going) hell of a transition
you must be going through from your earlier years. For you younger
guys, get out while you can.  Realize the schooling/$4800 was a waste
and move on to another career.  I am now working for the gov't and I
am going to the aviation school of maintenance.  I plan on being a
mechanic in the aviation industry and having my engineering degree
within two years (80 credits to go)....:0)  Good luck and god
bless..:0)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 June 2009

http://jacksonville.com/news/2009-06-10/story/jacksonville_ceo_wins_statewide_lifetime_achievement_award


feel free to post comments at the bottom of the article

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 June 2009

We're asking FRA to ban all one-person crews 
A petition for an emergency order prohibiting the use of one-person
operating crews, including remote control operations, has been filed
with the Federal Railroad Administration by the UTU and the Brotherhood
of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen. 
UTU International President Mike Futhey and BLET National President Ed
Rodzwicz signed the petition for the emergency order. 

The request for the FRA emergency order applies to all train
operations, including conventional and remote control yard switching
operations. 

Although the UTU has collective bargaining agreements in force with
most railroads requiring at least one conductor on each train start,
there currently are no federal safety regulations prohibiting use of
one-person crews in yard or road operations. 

One-person crew operations "have been nothing more than the
industry's attempt to reduce operating costs to increase profits, at
the expense of worker safety," says the UTU and BLET petition seeking
the FRA emergency order. 

The FRA is told in the petition, "The evidence shows that no
conditions exist where a lone engineer or remote control operations are
safe." 

The need for such an emergency order, says the UTU and the BLET, is
demonstrated by a May 10 accident on CSX in Selkirk, N.Y., which killed
UTU-represented conductor Jerod Boehlke, who was working alone and using
a remote control device. 

"The workload associated with [remote control operations], while
performing other safety critical tasks, demands too much of a single
individual, including loss of situational awareness," says the
petition. 

There are numerous incidents of accidents, injuries and fatalities
where railroads utilized one-person crews, and the injuries and deaths
caused by remote and single-crew operations "have continued unabated
since its inception in the early 1990s," says the petition. "This has
been caused in part by the inaction of the FRA to a number of petitions
filed both by the UTU and the BLET for emergency orders to prevent such
operations. 

The petition says that while the FRA has reviewed the safety aspects of
one-person crews, it "has really done nothing affirmatively to assure
the safety of the employees in such operations." 

The UTU and the BLET also take "strong issue" with FRA conclusions
that the safety records of remote control and conventional operations
are "basically the same." 

Pointing to a 2006 FRA report entitled, "Safety of Remote Control
Operations," the petition for the emergency order says, "We believe
FRA cooked the books here. Most of FRA's erroneous figures resulted
from the formulas used for calculating the statistics. For example, by
using the number of hours worked instead of FRA's use of yard
switching miles for determining the data, the accident rate was 2.3
times higher for RCOs." 

An emergency order prohibiting the use of one-person operating crews,
including remote control operations, would take effect immediately upon
issuance by the FRA. 

Click here to read the petition for the emergency order.
 
June 12, 2009

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 June 2009

That's funny. I needed a good laugh this morning.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 June 2009

http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-06-11/

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 June 2009

I am using this post, as a example of the difference between a real
Engineer and a poster, that says he is. This tells the true feeling's
of a IMPOSTER. This boy never seen a switch, just has a opinion. I can
assure you this is not RRJ. He is not this smart.


Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 June 2009

CSX won't run into the ground. CSX proves that even with incompetent
management a class 1 railroad can still be profitable. If they spent
10% of the energy they waste on needless bullschidt their profits
would
see a significant increase. Ward is happy with mediocre. He's happy
with being the lowest paid railroad CEO which still isn't to shabby
at
$7 mil last year. He seems to be content that CSX has the lowest stock
price of all class 1 railroads. They stress about fuel conservation
and
costs then stored all the good power while running all the junk that
puffs out black smoke out of the stacks. Nothing will wake these
people
up to reality. We as employees are their scape goat. We are considered
their enemy that is sabotaging their railroad. We are blamed for
everything. Till someone finally smacks Ward with a two by four up his
head to wake him up and get rid of those running transportation it's
more of the same.

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 June 2009

Even though Csx's plans to close Frontier have been known for some time
now, watching it happen sucks.  The retarders are silent, the pulldowns
are gone, the engine house closed, rosters in all crafts gutted.  50+
years of virtually non-stop operation. Sacrificed to bump
quarterly/yearly returns by a couple pennies per share.       RIP FNT

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 June 2009

CSX won't run into the ground. CSX proves that even with incompetent
management a class 1 railroad can still be profitable. If they spent
10% of the energy they waste on needless bullschidt their profits would
see a significant increase. Ward is happy with mediocre. He's happy
with being the lowest paid railroad CEO which still isn't to shabby at
$7 mil last year. He seems to be content that CSX has the lowest stock
price of all class 1 railroads. They stress about fuel conservation and
costs then stored all the good power while running all the junk that
puffs out black smoke out of the stacks. Nothing will wake these people
up to reality. We as employees are their scape goat. We are considered
their enemy that is sabotaging their railroad. We are blamed for
everything. Till someone finally smacks Ward with a two by four up his
head to wake him up and get rid of those running transportation it's
more of the same.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 June 2009

There will come a time when CSX runs into the ground and I hope that Mr
Ward and Ingram are held legally accountable for there actions.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 June 2009

I agree the railroads are scrambling to get as much done as possible
anticipating the July 16th deadline for the new HOS. Their already
cutting more yard jobs which doesn't make sense seeing they've
already been cut done to the bare minimum. Call it selfish but after
95% of my 32 years working the road with a few retirements this year I
was banking on holding at least a 2nd trick yard job. Now the
possibilty of even working a 3rd trick job has deminished. This year
I've only been awarded a yard job twice (two weeks) on the bid system
compared to last year I worked 8 1/2 months in the yard. If yesterday
was a preview of the outcome of their decision it was chaotic. Trains
were at a stand still nothing moved for 4 hours. Amtraks were delayed
over trains piling up that couldn't be yarded because of these cut
backs. The unions at the general commitee level are worthless there
have been over 20 extra yard assignments used over the past 3-4 weeks.
Under the agreement if a yard assignment is worked two consecutive days
it must be established as a regular assignment which several of these
extras have been worked over 5 days consecutively. CSX circumvents the
agreements holding over regular assignments on to another time ticket.
Which is profitable for those yard assignments that are making 2 1/2
days pay in 10-12 hours. While those on the extra board are being
affected. In most cases the switchmen board is being held for remote
jobs instead of conventional assignments. When you think it can't get
any worse it does.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 June 2009

If you think traffic is picking up on the HU it is not because the
economy is getting better it is #1 because of the jamboree getting
ready to hit and #2 the railroad is trying to get ahead on the game for
the new hours of service in July so if they are adding turns enjoy it
while it last because they will run really slow with skeleton crews
come july 1st through spring of 2010. If they can hold back now then
they do well then it is slow in the fall anyway. If you are laid off
expect to be there until may or june of 2010 anyway. I have four years
as of today june 10th and i dont even have 1 7 months of employment on
the railroad.

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 June 2009

Sam:
tell them to email me if it bothers them that much

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 June 2009

Steve--I had not posted on this site since Clarence Gooden was outed for
not being totally up front about his college resume. There was a
jibberish contest between myself and another poster whose name I do not
remember. 

I suggested that any of us union employees who would have been caught
falsifying information on a resume or time ticket would expect to be
fired and that there might be some ammo for use in investigations ect.,
that the Gooden case might set some precident for appeal or better yet,
reversal of some already settled cases.

I was enlightened as to the social structure of management as it
compared to labor. Did you know that big dogs eat little dogs and dogs
eat cats as cats eat mice--or something along that line. 

Anyway, the post was a flashback to the jibberish contest--absolutly no
harm intended, just enjoying some of the rational posts of late. 

Does anyone really know what has become of Robert Pines?? He had some
really good info, just a strange way of presenting it.

Name: sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 June 2009

mikewardisgay@gmail.com,

Now see, that is just the kind of post that will get all the CSX
management's  panties in a knot.  I can hear them now..... beating
their fists bloody on the board room conference table.  

And it is not polite to say, 'FUCK U MIKE WARD', on a public forum
like CSX SUCKS.  That really gets em riled.  Such a pity.

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 June 2009

anything i say here about management, id say to them personally, makes
no difference....
and maybe if they had brains, this site wouldnt have been able to
remain but:
"In fact, it seems that by suing CSX-Sucks.com, CSX accomplished two
things: 

They wasted a huge pile of money 
They established legal protections for CSX-Sucks.com that might not
have existed otherwise"


Like i say every day, CSX management is a bunch of idiots in suits and
skirts.
Fuck u Ward.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 June 2009

Tank, you should be carefull about bad mouthing CSX Management. 

Writing about "jackassville management"  and "moron" will not win
you any favors.

I know, for a FACT, that CSX Management is VERY irate at us calling
them bad and awful names on this site.  They also dispise being talked
about behind their backs - they are VERY SENSITIVE to being called dumb
asses, shit heads, butt fuchers, morons, bubble brained idiots,
incompetent, stupid, etc. etc. etc.      

CSX Management hates this site. They'd like to burn it down.  

Us talking about Mike Ward's teenage mistress and messy divorce just
has them boiling. 

Also,  they do not like us talking about worker injuries and deaths.
CSX fervently believes that the RR never caused anyone to get cancer or
asbestosis.  Just ask them. 

Basically, critizing CSX management for their colossal incompetence
makes them mad as HELL. They get so mad their ears shoot out steam and
their bulging eyes turn as red as the Devil's Dick. 

Let all be nicey nice.   We should have a "Trainmaster Day".  

When you see your TM, instead of saying he is a moronic whack job
without the common sense god gave a goose, say something nice, like,

 "My, what a smart guy you are. (then drop your trousers, bend over
and say,  'Sir, may I please have another, sir!" (this one is sure to
get you in Employee of the Month status). 

These are just some of the more common nice comments you say to support
your trainmaster,  or your boss - whatever the case.

Remember, don't talk about management behind their backs.  CSX HATES
negative gossip about them.  They are very sensitive pumpkins and
you'll hurt their butterfly wings & feelers if you talk them.  

Practice barking like a dog.  Fetch a stick.  Roll over. Play dead. 
Walk around like a three legged pooch with a limp. Anything that
entertains and makes em happy.  That's our purpose here on earth. How
do I know this?    Mike Ward told me so.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 June 2009

C&O Joe,  

Good lord man you got to be kidding....... fantastically high gas
prices are precisely what precipitated and initiated the destruction of
the world's economy, which collapse eventually put thousands of
railroaders out of work. 

Follow the dominoes. High gas prices were the culprit for the beginning
of the economic collapse.  People had to choose between jobs - and the
necessity of driving to work at $4.50 a gallon gas, or paying their
mortgages.  You gotta eat, so you gotta have a car to get to work.  So,
the bills wait. The credit card bills skyrocket, mortgages defaulted,
credit default swaps went sour, banks collapsed, and here we are. 

The oil companies can stick their high gas prices up their collective
asses. I will be buying a hybrid or electric - NOT a gas or diesel
engine vehicles.  

CSX carloads have DECREASED 20 to 25% overall, and many commodity areas
have 50% or higher carloading decreases.  You can thank OPEC and the gas
monopolies for that. 

Gas prices might have increased RR carloadings slightly - which is
debatable given the phenomenal increase in highway truck traffic. The
overall effect of higher gas prices has been devastating to CSX and the
other roads.    

With gas prices over $4 last year, railroad car loadings plummeted
because the economy (consumer spending) plummeted. Gas prices were at
an all time high, but RR loadings begain to drop and then went into
free fall, and a zillion guys got furloughed. That's what high gas
prices did for us.  

The RR could pick up more Intermodal business - its there for the
taking. CSX Intermodal is not taking advantage. Someone in jackassville
Intermodal is sitting on their ass. But that is to be expected when
Mikey Ward has been too busy screwing his secretary.  

Fuel efficient cars will take the place of gas engine cars and trucks.
That doesn't mean the RR will loose business.  It means the RR will
have a different commodity mix, and they will pick up business in other
areas that will offset the overall debilitating affect of sky high oil
prices. 

Well, lunch break is over.  Back to the torch.

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 June 2009

C&O Joe:
Looks like things are picking up in Russell, noticed they have been
adding a couple turns to the xb over the past couple days.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 June 2009

Hey Tank,

      Word to the obviously un-wise. The higher gas prices are, the
more attractive rail shipping becomes. Even an old carman can
understand that.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 June 2009

Dear Safety Strike-

I agree with EVERYTHING you said.

-------------------
Dear APE-

I took the liberty of posting your most important post here:
http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/ask-attorney-steve-gordon-gordon-elias-law-firm/13276-railroad-workers-united-june-19th.html#post123340

Our firm will be joining you all.
-------------------

Dear Just one more law firm searching for business????

I would ask that you not generalize please.

Steve

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 09 June 2009

To: Mike Ward

Is that new pussy worth it.   Guess the old wife got lots of cash and
stuff.   What will you give your new slice?

Keep us informed and bring her along to outings.

Guess you need too keep up a image for your Hero Tony

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 June 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 June 2009

Thes CEOs do not have degrees and some of them just did not finish
college or go to the big fancy school. You do research you will find
there companys are running great. Maby this is what the rest of
america
needs to catch on to. The great fact that you not onley need the
education to run a company, but you need to be able to step into the
shoes of the old blue coller worker.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Ok get er going, first thing is go get some money, guess you have some.
Now go set that money where it can make money. I know you already have
done that. Sit back rest and collect. Enjoy life rest from all of your
work. Or buy a lottery ticket and hit the big time.  I think the
lottery ticket is the easiest, Keep on doing that, it is going to hit,
just need to get the numbers right. By the way pull up those awful
nasty jail pants.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 June 2009

Might need a little screening on this site...
Question number one- 
How many points on a switch. Pick the best answer.
 1 ( )
 2 ( )
 3 ( )
 4 ( )

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 June 2009

Dear Mr. Ward,

You can stick those gas guzzling cars up your ass along with all those
empty car carriers. 

I'm buying hybrid, or electric. Duh. (and, your competitors TRUCK them
over the road. Duh, anybody home?). 

Oil companies can stick their gas and their prices up their asses. 

The middle East can stick their monopolistic oil prices up their asses,
too. 

P.S. Mikey, if you had  half a brain, you would be figgering out a way
to get truck traffic off the highways and onto the rails, instead of
spending time picking your ass and banging your secretary. 

Have a safe and productive day, moron.

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 June 2009

This Week's Message 
Hello, this is Michael Ward.

With the bankruptcies of Chrysler and General Motors dominating so much
of the news lately, I know many of you wonder what it all means for CSX.
Especially with our automotive volumes down so sharply and so many
multi-level racks sidelined. Year-to-date, our automotive carloads are
down about 49 percent from a year ago.

It remains to be seen how these bankruptcies will play out. We know the
automobile business will suffer in the near term. Both Chrysler and GM
have shut a number of plants, which also has a big impact on the
vendors in their supply chains.

As new vehicles begin to roll off the assembly line, they will offer
consumers better gas mileage. Congress is talking about enacting a
"cash for clunkers" program that would provide car buyers with a
financial incentive to trade in their current vehicles for new ones.
Such a program could generate as much as one million incremental sales
of cars and light trucks.

I understand how some may be pessimistic over the prospects for our
automotive business. But there are hopeful signs on the horizon.
Volkswagen has begun construction of its $1 billion assembly plant in
Chattanooga, Tennessee, where it will produce a mid-size sedan. The
facility is jointly served by CSX and NS through the Hamilton County
Railway Authority short line.

KIA has begun training workers at its new assembly center in West
Point, Georgia, where it will begin production of a new sport utility
vehicle. CSX is the only railroad to serve this plant.

As the economy begins to recover, buyers will start returning to auto
showrooms and the current inventory on the car lots will have to be
replaced. I believe that CSX can once again play a key role in moving
cars from assembly plants to towns across America.

Thanks for listening, have a safe, productive day and I'll talk to you
again next week.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 June 2009

Dear Been Here too Long-

What did you say?

Steve

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 June 2009

Steve--If you are not on a retainer or are somehow otherwise rescued
from representing labour employees, you should contact the CSX Legal
Department for your bailout money. I will be quick to question your
legaleeze prater and your real motive for posting heer2long. I used to
post heer but was not able to relate to the Boolian Algebra in using
truth tables define computer charachatures.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 June 2009

Dear All- Thank you for the honest responses. I will tell you that we
work VERY hard and since there are only two lawyers in our "boutique"
law firm you've always got a named partner on your case (LOL!).
Seriously, I was hoping to get the responses I received. I think the
concept of unions, on paper, are a necessary thing. Lord knows the
company has your back alright...to stick a knife in it. So, Unions are
a necessary evil...sort of like lawyers! I must say whatever tune we
had to sing to get designated was the wrong one we chose. I swear I 
thought that (1) getting excellent results; (2) making sure the
railroader was only treated by Board Certified physicians; (3)
advancing money interest free [where ethically permitted to do so so
the client could pay their bills]; (4) giving the client the lawyer's
cell phone in case they NEED to talk to their lawyer; (5) never
settling more than one case ata time instead of "group case
settlements" and (6) busting the railroad's ass with a
'take-no-prisoner' mentality and approach would have been enough to
get our name in the hat. BUT I WAS WRONG!

So...here we are...not able to just call someone up when they are hurt
but having to wait till they call us. Please do not get me wrong, we
have good business. But I just needed to know that we had a fighting
chance in the minds' of railroaders without the designation.

Thanks again!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 June 2009

almost ten years and a 












almost ten years with an average of $4000 in unpaid claims per year. i
can see cmc and both unions in the flames of hell .  are there any
other charities i can give my dues to. i need a list of unions other
than the utu blet. spineless blood suckers. they are worse than the
company.the company will tell you they are going to screw you. the
union says we can help and then stab you in the heart. from behind of
course.  

















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Name: Ed 
E-mail: edward.oliver@gmail.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 June 2009

Union Pacific is the same way.  Make a profit above all else.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 June 2009

Mr. Gordon asks this question..."If you were hurt, would you consider
hiring a "non-union designated" FELA law firm? If not, why not and if
so, why so?

Loco 30+ stated under Safety First..."I used a union designated FELA
law firm it took over 2 years to settle an I definitely wasn't
satisfied with the results". 

Additionally he stated..."The injury in 2000 I went with settling with
the railroad on my own and was very satisfied with the results".

It is in the carriers, and in my opinion the employees, best interest
to avoid litigation if possible. However, should that become impossible
it becomes necessary to retain legal help.

Now, with the above in mind and with my twisted logic; consider
this...we all know the carriers and the unions are in bed with each
other. A "union designated" FELA law firm is, by definition, in bed
with the union and therefore a de facto representative of the
carriers.

Loco 30+ said he was unhappy with the settlement the "union
designated" law firm got and did better handling his second claim
himself. The carriers like to manipulate every aspect of their
business...what better way to do that than have your union direct you
toward a "union designated" law firm; while the carriers fight to
abolish, or at least weaken, the current FELA statues.

You say professional ethics will keep that from happening...I say bull
shit, CSX has no ethics and didn't Byron Boyd and his predecessor both
get jail time for accepting "gratuities".

So to answer your question Mr. Gordon, if legal assistance became
necessary, I would try to avoid a "union designated" lawyer!

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 June 2009

Dear All-

I have a question and since this is about as anonymous a place to post
as one can get in the railroad industry, I thought I would ask here so
here goes. As you probably are aware, our firm
http//www.gordon-elias.com is not Union Designated. That is, we do FELA
work but we were unable to do whatever the heck was necessary to get
anointed by a Union Designation from the "higher-ups". You can see
and hear my explanation at
http://www.gordon-elias.com/CM/Custom/Unions.asp as to what happened.
Here is my question: If you were hurt, would you consider hiring a
"non-union designated" FELA law firm? If not, why not and if so, why
so?

The courtesy of a straight answer would be GREATLY appreciated and
thank you.

Steve Gordon

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 June 2009

Ward didn't mention anything about the deterioration of CSX employees
mental health. Which isn't good.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 June 2009

Thes CEOs do not have degrees and some of them just did not finish
college or go to the big fancy school. You do research you will find
there companys are running great. Maby this is what the rest of america
needs to catch on to. The great fact that you not onley need the
education to run a company, but you need to be able to step into the
shoes of the old blue coller worker.

CEOs Without College Degrees
by Rebecca Reisner
Monday, June 1, 2009
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The thousands of wait-listed would-be MBAs who may not get the chance
to go to their dream B-school might want to draw inspiration from the
following group of CEOs. Not only did they not get graduate degrees,
they didn't get undergraduate degrees -- and some never even attended
college. 

Of course, not having a degree didn't stop them from being a big name
on campus. You'll find Alfred Taubman's name at Brown, Harvard, the
University of Michigan, and Lawrence Technological University; at least
one building on each campus bears his name, although the retail magnate
and philanthropist never finished college. Read on to learn who else
made it into corporate top spots without the benefit of a bachelor's
degree.


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1. Dennis Albaugh

Chairman, Albaugh
Type of Business: Pesticides
Education: Associate's degree from Des Moines Area Community College
Fun fact: He has a collection of more than 100 classic Chevrolets


2. Paul Allen

Founder and chairman, Vulcan
Type of Business: Media, telecommunications
Education: Dropped out of Washington State College after two years
Fun fact: He persuaded Bill Gates to drop out of Harvard. They later
founded Microsoft (MSFT) together.



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3. Richard Branson

CEO, Virgin Group
Type of Business: Travel, radio, TV, music, venture capital
Education: No college degree
Fun fact: He became an entrepreneur at age 16 with the creation of
Student magazine.



4. Maverick Carter

CEO, LRMR Innovative Marketing & Branding
Type of Business: Marketing
Education: 3.5 years of college at Western Michigan University and
University of Akron combined
Quote: "Don't be afraid if you see an opportunity to go and give it
shot. You can finish school later; it's always there."


5. John Paul DeJoria

CEO, John Paul Mitchell Systems
Type of Business: Hair-care products
Education: No college
Fun fact: He started out selling greeting cards at age 9.



6. Michael Dell

Founder, chairman, and CEO Dell (DELL)
Type of Business: Computers
Education: Attended University of Texas, Austin; did not finish.
Quote: "When I started our company, it was very much an idea outside
of the conventional wisdom, and if there were people telling me that it
wasn't going to work, I wasn't really listening to them."



7. Felix Dennis

Founder and chairman, Alpha Media Group, formerly Dennis Publishing
Type of Business: Publishing (Maxim, The Week)
Education: No college degree
Fun fact: He wrote a biography and published a magazine about Bruce
Lee; sales surged when the martial arts star died suddenly in 1973.


8. Barry Diller

Chairman and CEO of IAC/InterActiveCorp (IACI)
Type of Business: Media
Education: Dropped out of UCLA after three weeks
Fun fact: He started his career working in the mail room of the William
Morris Agency

Name: Ape from the Zoo
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 June 2009

"He said one gallon of gasoline can fuel the movement of one ton of
freight for 436 miles."

I maybe an Ape 1-10 years but when was the last time Locos ran on
Gasoline?

It takes one doughnut, a cup off coffee and a smoke to fuel this Ape's
morning movement.

How's that for efficiency?

Name: Ape from the Zoo
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 June 2009

CEO Michael Ward: CSX will be ready when economy recoversTampa Bay
Business Journal - Jacksonville Business Journal
CSX Corp. CEO and Chairman Michael Ward said the current economic
challenges will make the business community stronger.

With experts predicting that the country’s demand for rail service will
increase by 90 percent within 15 years, CSX will be ready since it
continues to invest in its infrastructure. Although the industry
historically cuts back on infrastructure spending in hard times, CSX
plans to spend about $1.6 billion this year, Ward told luncheon
attendees Friday.

“We [were] really doing stimulus before stimulus was cool,” said Ward,
who has headed CSX (NYSE: CSX) since 2003.

The company also is promoting itself as good for the environment and
essential to the movement of goods throughout the country. He said one
gallon of gasoline can fuel the movement of one ton of freight for 436
miles.

He said the company’s run of four years of record profits ended in the
first quarter and was a result of decreased demand. The company has
since furloughed about 2,800 of its 34,000 employees. About 380 of the
employees worked in Jacksonville, where the company is based.

CSX contributes about $300 million to Jacksonville’s annual payroll and
spends $200 million for services, Ward said. He said the company has
21,000 miles of track in 23 states and operates 1,200 trains daily. It
serves and has offices in Tampa.

Name: old rr guy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 June 2009

Haa.I gotta say. I do not beleive that most of the posters on here
actually work for the railroad.
On second thought some of the whining does sound vaguely familiar.
Example#1: "I can't believe they laid me off after only four
months."  C'Mon this guy can't be serious. I was laid off more than
I worked the first three years I was employed by Conrail. Then, as now
there was a huge recession on . No cars were being bought,steel mills
were closing up thus no steel was being made, etc, etc.Thousands of
cars and engines stored.Thousands laid off.
 Its a freight railroad. If the freight is down , theres no work. It is
not a mystery or someome playing a game with your life. No one put a gun
to your head to sign up. Get used to the lousy hours, and sporadic work,
you will be living it with no seniority.Otherwise, hang it up and do
something else.They are not going to treat you like anything other than
an hourly employee. You will not like some of the people you work with.
Sorry to rain on your parade. Its a business , not a jobs program.Feel
bad for the guys in Buffalo where I started. I am surprised they
didn't close down most of the Frontier operation a lot sooner, after
the 99 split with NS

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 June 2009

If the RR's maintain their limited antitrust exemption the status quo
continues and nothing will change. 

The captive shippers have been getting gouged for years and have had
enough...they brought this to a head. Whether the RR's have to cut
their rates or the shippers find alternative shipping, or they reach a
comprise or nothing changes: what makes the RR's stop furloughing?

I believe I would write, email or telephone my Congressmen and Senators
and tell them you support the Legislation. As long as the RR's have
this get-out-of-jail free card nothing will ever change...status quo
remains intact.

If the RR's lose their antitrust exemption, everything will
change...the status quo is gone.

I'll call it the ripple effect...ever thrown a rock in the middle of a
pond? What happens? You have a splash and small tight ripples, as the
ripples move farther away from the impact they grow larger and farther
apart until they reach the shore as waves. The bigger the pond, the
bigger the waves.

The Class 1's and the unions are a big pond...their boat would
certainly get rocked if not outright swamped!

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 June 2009

Well I read an  article about NS threatening more furloughs if the
antitrust thing is pushed through. So i am guessing that is why the
union is trying to side with the carriers on this. But dont they
understand the carrier is going to continue furloughing anyway? So why
the hell should i waste my time writing letters to congressman to
persuade them to vote NO on this bill?
This is the type of shit that makes union members not want to pay dues,
cause if it were up to me, carriers would be in this fight on their
own...,.,

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 June 2009

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 June 2009

You've heard the expression "sleeping with the enemy"...now you've

seen it. The worst sex I've ever had was still delightful!

The unions need the carriers to stay in business and the carriers need
the unions to stay in business...the status quo. Too many high paying
jobs on both sides depend on the status quo!xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Just a power struggle, it has been that way for many years, neither
side recognizes the value of the other. One side gives an inch and the
other side takes 2 inches. Respect is the only way out, and it must
come from both sides. This comes down to people skills that both sides
are lacking. Union fighting the fat cats, company fighting screwed up
claims and local folks with a poor attitude. The unions are not doing a
thing to get both sides together, why?? DUH they do not work, they just
live off the sweat of the members. How do they keep them paying?
Promises! Folks ya got to go a little deeper!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 June 2009

You've heard the expression "sleeping with the enemy"...now you've 
seen it. The worst sex I've ever had was still delightful!

The unions need the carriers to stay in business and the carriers need
the unions to stay in business...the status quo. Too many high paying
jobs on both sides depend on the status quo!

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 June 2009

NoMo:
that was the question i was trying to get around to, why is the union
asking people to call their senators and try to get a no vote on this
antitrust....
why do the unions always jump on side with the carrier, knowing in the
end CSX is going to give them the shaft?

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 June 2009

Dear Sam, Z, Safety Strike and All Others That Are Interested-

I apologize for not responding sooner. I posted the Press Release and
just checked back just now [0018HRS---06/04/09]. 

Anyway, I would like to point out that it was not our firm that handled
any part of this case. I think that the underlying firm did an admirable
job to get a $5  million dollar JURY award. I have only had one in my
professional career and I can tell you they are very hard to get no
matter what the damages. So, in that sense, they are to be commended. 

I was not at the trial and I am only speaking from conjecture. However,
having said that, I would like to point out some basic trial "truths"
that go through a trial lawyer's wacked out brain.

It is hard enough to get a verdict that is sizeable, you kind of want
to do everything you can at the trial level to hold on to it when it is
appealed. The general consensus on the modus operandi of the railroads
are that, anytime you get a sizeable verdict, they will appeal. Hence,
protecting your trial record is an all important process ever-present
in the back of a trial lawyer's brain during the entire process
including, but certainly not limited to, (1)juror selection, (2)medical
causation issues [usually dealing with the famous Daubert case, and its
progeny, at the federal level], (3)the sufficiency of evidence to
support the individual elements of damages, (4)the sufficiency of
liability evidence and, (5)as in the CSX v. Hensley case, the wording
of the charge. 

Obviously, CSX prepared the "genuine and serious" instruction and the
Plaintiff's counsel argued against it. Sometimes, just to protect your
verdict, you will actually let the defendant's proposed instruction go
to the jury. This is when you truly believe you've got the jury and
there is almost no instruction that will persuade them not to go with
you. This is only a call that the trial lawyer can make. The general
rule is to try to submit a "plaintiff's favorable" charge and the
defense submits their "defendant's favorable" charge and the Court
makes up its mind after hearing argument of counsel [and maybe, if
you're lucky, actually reading the law]. 

The CSX lawyers read Ayers as "requiring" the extra instruction, I
could easily see how the Plaintiff's lawyer could have been worried
that its inclusion could have been an obstacle for the jury to award
big damages. It was a call he/she made and they won...at least till it
got to the Supreme Court level.

From reading the CSX v. Hensley case, Hensley had asbestosis from a
long term exposure from working on the railroad. A reading of the Ayers
opinion reveals:

“Norfolk presented the question whether a plaintiff who has asbestosis
but not cancer can recover damages for fear of cancer under the FELA
with-out proof of physical manifestations of the claimed emotional
distress. Our answer is yes, with an important reservation. We affirm
only the qualification of an asbestosis sufferer to seek compensation
for fear of cancer as an element of his asbestosis-related pain and
suffering damages. It is incumbent upon such a complainant, however, to
prove that his alleged fear is genuine and serious.” Norfolk v. Ayers,
at 157, 123 S.Ct. 1210

After reading the above, if you had been Hensley's counsel, would you
have vehemently argued for its exclusion? How about if you knew that,
if it was excluded, that you would risk a reversal on appeal....would
you still argue for its exclusion? .......Tough call isn't it?

I can not fault the trial lawyer in this decision. 

I do have one issue that I would like to raise. There are many articles
on the following point and they go either way. There is, I believe, a
consensus of opinion of good trial lawyers that your 'bigger' awards
are usually found with a general damage submission rather than specific
damage questions. I will be more specific so you will understand. In
some instances you can submit to the jury damage questions like this:
"'What sum of money, if paid now in cash, do you award for medical
expenses, loss of wages, loss of earning capacity, physical pain and
suffering, mental anguish, physical impairment, physical
disfigurement'  Answer in Dollars & Cents $__________" 

OR, one could submit it this way: "'What sum of money, if paid now in
cash, do you award for medical expenses $_________, loss of wages and/or
loss of earning capacity $_____________, physical pain and suffering
$__________, mental anguish $___________, physical impairment
$__________, physical disfigurement $________' Answer in Dollars &
Cents."  The latter way permits the trial court, or the appellate
court, to take away one element with out disturbing the remainder of
the award. The Hensley case was a general/broad submission and,
therefore, there was no way for the Supreme Court to determine what
part of the $5 million was attributed to the "fear of cancer" award.
Once, the Supreme Court determined the CSX proffered instruction should
have been given, the ENTIRE case had to be reversed and remanded. This
could have been different. 

Once again, the general belief among trial lawyers that are worth a
damn is that bigger awards are found in the one damge line approach
BUT......when CSX was denied an instruction that arguably should have
been given, don't you think the trial lawyer might have "re-visited"
the one line submission before it went to the jury?

Well, I  do not know if any of the above helps understand this case a
little better. 

I think it was Sam that said something like "Whats the bottom line?"
Here it is: A FELA claimant that seeks 'fear of cancer' monetary
damages needs to put on evidence that his/her fear is 'genuine and
serious' AND submit an 'instruction' worded as such.

I do not believe you have to have psychological/psychiatric testimony
but I know, if I had a client where this was an issue, I would damn
sure make sure the client visited with a a psyche doctor so they could
testify how genuine and serious the fear is.

Ya'll take care out there and be safe.

Steve
http://www.gordon-elias.com

ps-the Hensley opinion can be downloaded at:

http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/legal-news-announcements/12920-csx-v-thursten-hensley-signiificant-u-s-sup-ct-court-fela-decision.html

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 June 2009

And why would the unions oppose this:

        http://www.ble.org/pr/news/newsflash.asp?id=4822

It's called the status quo. If the RR's lose their limited antitrust
status it could upset the unions applecart and a lot of overpaid
pompous asses lose their jobs!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 June 2009

Locomotive Engineer 10 - 20 years:

The same guys who lament the Conrail
takeover and talk about what a great
company Conrail was are the same 
Conrail guys I knew 15 years ago
who would have been posting on
Conrail - Sucks if it had been
available.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 June 2009

la·ment (l-mnt)
v. la·ment·ed, la·ment·ing, la·ments 
v.tr.
1. To express grief for or about; mourn: lament a death.
2. To regret deeply; deplore: He lamented his thoughtless acts.
v.intr.
1. To grieve audibly; wail.
2. To express sorrow or regret. See Synonyms at grieve.
n.
1. A feeling or an expression of grief; a lamentation.
2. A song or poem expressing deep grief or mourning.
---------------------------------------------------------

Two days late and several thousand dollars short, but I wanted to
lament the tenth anniversary of the death of Conrail. In the Conrail
days, while labor and management did not always see eye-to-eye, they
still treated labor fairly and decently. The company still made money,
and most of us actually liked coming to work.

R.I.P. Conrail. June 1st, 1999. Day one. Split date. Dismantled by CSX
and the NS.

Condolences also go out to the employees and retirees of all the other
fallen flags who worked or are now stuck working under the current CSX
regime such as: Seaboard Air Line, Atlantic Coast Line, L&N, B&O, C&O,
Western Maryland, P&LE, RF&P, Georgia, Clinchfield, Monon, and any
others I may have forgotten. Hey, we're all in this together.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 June 2009

Heads up new employees!!!
Unless you have at least 7-10 years of service, time to dust off the
old resumes... CSX plans to continue running on skeleton crews thru
the
July hours of service law change, and if they can still move their
trains... yup, you guessed it... MORE FURLOUGHS!!!

Get out now while you can...


How the hell do you know have you been sucking on the trainmasters
titty again

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 June 2009

http://www.ble.org/pr/news/newsflash.asp?id=4822

this antitrust issue.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

I like it. Bog this website down with cut and pasting. Maybe the poster
is tired of the BS of certian people who like C&P critizing every
person's point of view. Keep up the good work.

Name: Ape from the ZOO
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 June 2009

May I ask what antitrust issue?

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 June 2009

I just want to know other peoples opinions on the antitrust issue going
on right now. Is it good or bad in your opinion?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Get the point yet.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

(Norfolk Southern issued the following on June 1, 2009.)

NORFOLK, Va. — On the 10th anniversary of Norfolk Southern
Corporation's acquisition of nearly 60 percent of Conrail, CEO Wick
Moorman today thanked customers, suppliers, stockholders, communities,
and employees for their hard work and support.

"On Day One -- June 1, 1999 -- we set out to build the best freight
transportation system in the world," Moorman said. "We have made
steady progress toward that goal, and together we have enjoyed a decade
of growth and financial success. All of us at Norfolk Southern are
grateful to everyone who has played a part in this success, and we look
forward to what the next decade brings."

Since Day One, when Norfolk Southern added 7,200 miles of Conrail
routes and 10,000 former Conrail employees to its system, the railroad
has moved 3.5 trillion gross ton-miles of freight. A single train of
every carload NS hauled in the last decade could stretch to the moon
and back twice -- and then some.

In order to meet increased demand and better serve customers, NS over
that period has invested nearly $10 billion in capital expenditures to
improve track, equipment, facilities, and technology. In new rail
alone, NS installed the equivalent of a brand new transcontinental
railroad.

NS' industrial development activities since Day One resulted in the
location or expansion of 1,115 industries along the railroad's lines,
representing customer investments of $23.6 billion and creating nearly
55,000 customer jobs in the territory served by the railroad.

The Conrail transaction returned competitive rail service to the
Northeast for the first time in 20 years. NS sharpened its focus on
customer service markedly following the transaction -- especially
through its Thoroughbred Operating Plan -- and today is the industry's
service benchmark.

Most important, it all has been done safely. NS employees have earned
the E.H. Harriman Memorial Gold Medal as the safest railroad workers in
the U.S. for each of the last 20 years.

"The numbers tell an impressive story, but as satisfying as it is to
see how far we've come, it's more exciting to look ahead," Moorman
said. "Our progress has given us the strength to weather the current
economic storm. This recession will pass, and the long-term future for
rail as the safe, clean, and fuel-efficient transportation alternative
has never been brighter. NS is ready to take advantage of the
opportunities that a recovering economy will bring. Ten years from now,
along with our partners, we will look back again with amazement at how
far we've come together."

Norfolk Southern Corporation (NYSE: NSC) is a leading North American
transportation provider. Its Norfolk Southern Railway subsidiary
operates approximately 21,000 route miles in 22 states and the District
of Columbia, serves every major container port in the eastern United
States, and provides efficient connections to other rail carriers.
Norfolk Southern operates the most extensive intermodal network in the
East and is a major transporter of coal and industrial products.


Tuesday, June 02, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Railroad accidents have terrible consequences, safety advocates say 
(The following story by Nicole Printz appeared on the Abilene Recorder
Chronicle website on June 2, 2009. T.A. LaCombe is a member of BLET
Division 261 in Herington, Kan.)

ABILENE, Texas — When people think of train collisions, they generally
think of train crossings.

Thomas LaCombe, Union Pacific train engineer and a presenter for
Operation Lifesaver, is raising awareness about trespassing incidents.
Operation Lifesaver had a car crushed in a train collision and displays
at Flour Power Family Fun Fest this past weekend. LaCombe stressed the
importance of railroad safety in Abilene.

“There are two major railroad companies that run though Abilene,” he
said.

The multiple tracks through Abilene increase the risk for train
collisions, either at crossings or trespassing incidents.

“Railroads are private property,” he said. “Almost everyone crosses
railways at some point. There were 2,000 people killed on the rail
right of ways last year.”

In Kansas last year nine people were injured and four people killed on
railroad property, according to the Federal Railroad Association.

LaCombe explained that many people do not think that fishing on a
railroad bridge or walking on tracks is trespassing.

The only legal place to cross a railroad track is at designated public
crossings.
Children are often fascinated with trains and will cross underneath
stopped trains.

LaCombe was starting a train and noticed movement in the rearview
mirrors. There were three children playing underneath the cars. If he
hadn’t noticed them, the children probably would have been severely
injured or killed.

“Don’t set things on the track. A railroad spike set on the track can
derail a train,” LaCombe said. “If the train is carrying federal
property and is derailed it becomes a federal incident.” 

Coins placed on the tracks can be flung with great speed when run over,
potentially injuring someone.

Drivers make poor decisions that lead to accidents as well.

“The railroads have their own police,” he explained. “If I see someone
go around the gates I am required to report that.”

Going around crossing gates is illegal, and you can be ticketed even if
the gates have been down for several days. If gates are down for no
apparent reason, look on the crossbuck or near the crossing for the
toll free number posted near every crossing.

Trains can crush cars as easily as a car can crush a pop can.

“If your car dies on the tracks, walk toward the direction the train is
coming from.” LaCombe said. “If you walk the other way, the train could
knock your car into you.”

“There are no accidents with trains,” executive director Darlene
Osterhaus said. “The train doesn’t come off the tracks and hunt you
down.”

LaCombe is available for free presentations for children and adults
interested in learning more about train safety. Visit www.oli.org or
call 1-800-537-6224 to schedule a presentation.


Tuesday, June 02, 2009

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 June 2009

Heads up new employees!!!
Unless you have at least 7-10 years of service, time to dust off the
old resumes... CSX plans to continue running on skeleton crews thru the
July hours of service law change, and if they can still move their
trains... yup, you guessed it... MORE FURLOUGHS!!!

Get out now while you can...

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Mr. Gordon, could you please respond to Safety STike's request about
providing more info on the Hensley case?  


Name: SAFETY STRIKE 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Nice WSJ article, Z, but we need to hear MUCH more in the way of
specifics from the law firm that handled the case.   

We need to know more of the facts of Mr. Hensley's case. He had brain
cancer (?) and lung cancer (asbestosis) from exposure to toxic
chemicals....what chemicals? How much exposure? What was the causative
connection? . He had cancer(?),  or he had symptoms of it (?), or he
had a fear of the symptoms (?), or he had a fear of pending death from
cancer, or.....something else was pleaded?  It makes a difference. It
is odd that the Court would not consider that Hensley had no fear of
cancer (or a fear of dying for that matter) if he had no present
ongoing stage one cancer. 

The Ayers standard for fear of cancer was 'proof of their
apprehension of developing lung cancer in the future', which
indicated
that one did not need to actually have cancer, but had symptoms that
could lead to cancer (plural plaques, cysts, high white cell blood
count) but not actual cancer itself.  Is the court saying something
different?  Is there now a higher standard based on something else? If
so, what is that something else? What is the legal standard now for
fear of cancer under FELA? Higher than merely apprehension, or
apprehensions with associated predictive medical conditions.  What is
the standard now for 'genuine and serious'?.  How high is  the
standard?. What would be threshhold examples? Is there a balancing
test? What did Ayers say that the Court relied upon - or did not rely
upon? 

Fear of cancer is fairly common in asbestos cases, and the standard is
not "high".....seems like the FELA plaintiffs lawyers may have left
the door open for a company friendly conservative court to come in and
restate the rule of law.  Why is FELA different from any other
non-FELA
fear of cancer case where brain cancer and asbestos related cancer are
at issue?   

CSX argued that the instructions given to the jury were too friendly
to
Mr. Hensley - the jurors were ot instructed that  Hensley
needed to demonstrate that his fear of cancer was genuine and serious.
How so?   Is it simply a matter of issuing a jury instruction, or does
plaintiff have to add additional facts to prove his case?

"Although plaintiffs can seek fear-of-cancer damages in some...cases,
they must satisfy a high standard in order to obtain them,". Ok,
great.  Ok, so again, what exactly meets the Court's definition of a
"high standard" when seeking fear of cancer damages.  

Did Hensley win on other aspects of his case?  What were they? Did he
prove that his cancers (?) were caused to his exposure to toxic
chemicals and to asbestos?  

Anything else this law firm can SPECIFICALLY tell us about the case
would be EXTREMELY beneficial to every single railraod worker employed
by CSX as well as the other carriers.

We may be railroard workers, but we read these cases, and we like to
know exactly what is going on.  

Thanks.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 June 2009

Can you say Paid $$$$$ Them justices got some money under the bench.

Name: z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 June 2009

Court rules for CSX in worker-injury case 
WASHINGTON -- The U.S. Supreme Court Monday (June 1) threw out a $5
million jury verdict awarded to a former CSX Corp. railroad worker who
alleged that he had been negligently exposed to toxic chemicals and
asbestos on the job, which caused him to develop brain injuries and
asbestosis, a lung disease. 
Among other things, Tennessee railroad worker Thurston Hensley sought
monetary damages for a fear of developing cancer in the future, The
Wall Street Journal reported. 

CSX argued that the instructions given to the jury were too friendly to
Mr. Hensley. The company wanted jurors to be instructed that Mr. Hensley
needed to demonstrate that his fear of cancer was genuine and serious. 

The Supreme Court, in an unsigned opinion, ruled 7-2 that it was a
"clear error" for the trial judge not to give the jury instructions
CSX requested. 

"Although plaintiffs can seek fear-of-cancer damages in some...cases,
they must satisfy a high standard in order to obtain them," the
court's majority said. 

In dissent, Justice John Paul Stevens said, "As a practical matter, it
is hard to believe the jury would have awarded any damages for
Hensley's fear of cancer if it did not believe that fear to be genuine
and serious." 

The Supreme Court decided the case without requesting a full legal
briefing or hearing oral arguments, a sign that a majority of the
justices believed the lower-court ruling was clearly wrong. 

The high court sent the case back for new court proceedings. 

CSX didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. 

(The preceding article by Brent Kendall was published June 1, 2009, by
The Wall Street Journal.)

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2009

Mr. Gordon, 
The Supreme Court opinion is most interesting, but could you possibly
put it into the context of the King's English so that the majority of
non-lawyers on this site can understand what the case means to them? Is
the ruling applicable to asbestos disease cases only, or also to toxic
chemicals, fumes, and exhaust as well.   Is it just lung cancer, or
does the fear of cancer extend to all types of cancer. Does a worker
have to prove that he or she has stage one carcinoma, or is it enough
to simply know that you have had exposure to a target group of
carcinogenic causing chemicals to be at risk of cancer, thus have a
"genuine and serious" fear of cancer?   

Much appreciated.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 June 2009

***PRESS RELEASE***


Significant Decision Affecting 
Rights of Injured FELA Workers


On Monday, June 1st, the United States Supreme Court decided a case
styled CSX Transportation, Inc. v Thurston Hensley 2009 WL 1506680
(U.S. June 1, 2009)).  This case demonstrated the conservativeness of
the Supreme Court, and their determination to exclude injured workers
from recovering.

The Supreme Court relied heavily upon a previously decided case, i.e.,
Norfolk & Western R. Co. v Ayers (538 U.S. 135). Ayers held that a
plaintiff may recover for fear of cancer if he proves his fear is
‘genuine and serious’.  Once the plaintiff has provided proof of their
apprehension of developing lung cancer in the future, the law will
provide compensation for those damages.

At issue in the Hensley case was whether it was proper for the trial
court to deny CSX its requested juror instructions.  CSX requested the
following instruction to be part of the charge: 

Charge One stated the basic requirements to obtain damages under Ayers.
Plaintiff is also alleging that he suffers from a compensable fear of
cancer. In order to recover, Plaintiff must demonstrate that the fear
is genuine and serious.”  

Hensley first sued CSX in Tennessee state court. At the close of the
trial, CSX requested an instruction that Hensley needed to have shown
his fear of getting cancer was genuine and serious. The trial court
refused to allow the instruction. The Tennessee Court of Appeals
affirmed, stating that they saw no purpose in instructing the jurors.
If the jurors did not believe the plaintiff was genuine and serious in
his fears, then little to no damages would be awarded to him.  

The Hensley court held the ruling of the Tennessee Court of Appeals and
the refusal of the trial court to give the juror instructions were clear
error.  In Ayers, the Court expressly recognized that several “verdict
control devices” were available to the trial court when a FELA
plaintiff sought fear-of-cancer damages.  One of the verdict control
devices included that on a defendant's request, each plaintiff must
prove any alleged fear to be genuine and serious.  In Hensley, the
trial court erred when it refused CSX’s request for a juror instruction
on the genuine-and-serious standard of Hensley’s fear of cancer claim.

The Hensley Court held that instructing the jury on fear of cancer
damages would have been worthwhile.  Given the fact that the cancer
claim could have the potential to “evoke raw emotions” among the jurors
made the need for a juror instruction on the legal standard even more
vital. The Hensley Court somehow felt the need to bring up the numerous
asbestos cases pending as a way of justifying the estimation of damages
for plaintiffs. Their choice to bring up the cases was irrelevant and
unnecessary. 

An interesting aspect to this case is found in the dissent. Justice
Stevens, who had voted to affirm the Supreme Court decision in Ayers,
displayed his contempt for the decision in this case.  He stated that
the new ruling authorized a fresh review of the jury’s damages award.
Yet, as a matter of practicality, he noted that the jury would only
award the amount of damages they felt was necessary.  Justice Stevens
further pointed out that CSX did not attack the $5 million dollar award
as excessive. In that light, he further demonstrated that CSX did not
request the trial court to ask the jury to award damages for each
element of recovery. Had CSX done this, and the trial court had
complied, then CSX’s challenge would only have gone to the amount
awarded to the ‘fear of cancer’ amount and the entire verdict would not
have had to have been thrown out. 

The Hensley Court’s decision to reverse and remand the case rests on
the language in footnote 19 of the Ayers opinion. The footnote states:

“In their prediction that adhering to the line drawn in Gottshall and
Metro-North will, in this setting, bankrupt defendants, the dissents
largely disregard, inter alia, the verdict control devices available to
the trial court. These include, on a defendant's request, a charge that
each plaintiff must prove any alleged fear to be genuine and serious,
review of the evidence on damages for sufficiency, and particularized
verdict forms.” Id., at 159, n. 19 

The Hensley Court broadly interpreted the footnote, finding that
anytime a defendant demanded an instruction, it must be given when
involving fear of cancer. 

In contrast, Justice Stevens held that on the footnote’s face it merely
points out that a defendant has the right to request a
genuine-and-serious instruction, and if requested, the instruction is
available to the trial court. It does not suggest that all instructions
should be granted. 

The Hensley majority opinion deviated from Ayers stare decisis. The
Court’s opinion, more than anything, will generate confusion regarding
the Ayers case. The Ayers case had already suffered multiple
interpretations by the courts. Given the opportunity to provide clarity
to the holding of Ayers, the Hensley Court failed to meet this
objective. In their rush to reverse the Tennessee Court of Appeals,
they failed to correctly interpret Ayers and eliminate the confusion
that plagued many courts.

The Hensley opinion leaves the reader wondering why the Supreme Court
failed to recognize the rights of workers who labor across America.
This conservative approach greatly diminishes a worker’s ability to
recover damages.

###

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injury and wrongful death. They are a boutique law firm with a
nationwide practice focusing on FELA (http://www.gordon-elias.com),
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the associated Jones Act Blog (http://www.JonesActQuestions.com)  and
Trucking Accident Litigation (http://www.truckaccidentlaw.org). Gordon
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Elias bring over 39 years of combined experience to the representation
of their clients. The firm has the experience and resources to pursue
recovery from large corporate defendants and/or their insurers.

###

Name: lemonhead
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Contractor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 June 2009

dude don't do that if you need to talk call me i'am for real
850-232-6347 terrance

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 June 2009

To all the cut off conductors, keep your head up.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 June 2009

Just threw fussing with the wife , no job,no respect.I feel like taking
a pistol murdering the whole family.Life a bitch.!!!

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 June 2009

I want to start saying that I feel for all those cutoff, when I first
hired I was on here preaching one union, we need to form 1 union, and
as time progressed, I realized just what all the whiskers were saying
were true-aint gonna happen. While there are alot of good men out here,
greed prevails and it always will and csx as well as the unions know
this. This place is just a place to vent and talk a good game,
solidarity we dont have. To all the guys cut off, find other work and
learn from this, for all those working, watch ur back and you brothers,
I hear snakes are bad right now!

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 May 2009

YEEEEE-HAAAAWWWW!!! We had ourselves a visit from none other than Tony
Ingram to day at what used to be Frontier Yard.  Of course he had
nothing to add to our already pitiful situation.  How many levels of
Csx management do I need to tell me I don't have a job anymore? 4 town
hall meetings, nothing new in the last two. Hey, maybe for the next one,
Mike Ward could fly over in a helicopter and drop shit filled balloons
on everyone!  I think the coporate types  enjoy rubbing our noses in
it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 May 2009

Hey Con <1:

There's really nothing funning about a derailment let alone one
involving 21 Hazmat cars. You're laughing now...but if and when you
ever get back and it happens to you, I'll guarantee you won't be
laughing!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 May 2009

I guess this is what it will have to come to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh-kCE0P15I

Name: funny shit
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 May 2009

HUNTINGTON DIVISION - BLUERIDGE SUBDIVISION           D/R Q69623  0551
05/27 
 PSCC ADVISES Q69623 WITH 2 ENGS AND 89 CARS DERAILED 21 CARS WITH
HAZMAT CARS
 AND TWO CARS ARE IN THE NORTH TOE RIVER AT MP Z 164.2 NEAR HIGHWAY US
197 IN  GREEN MOUNTAIN, NC.  LOCAL AUTHORITIES ISSUED EVACUATION OF 6
HOUSES AS A PRE-
 CAUTIONARY MEASURE.  CHEMTREC AND HEPACO ENVIRONMENTAL ENROUTE.  ALL
NOTIFICA-
 TIONS MADE - GM ARNWINE NOTIFIED NRC, PO HARRIS, ISSUING REPORT
#906759.      
 EQUIPMENT DAMAGE: $ 231,800.00       TRACK DAMAGE: $ 60,000.00        
       
 LAST CAR RERERAILED: ____/__         TRACK RESTORED: ____/__   (ETA
1201/29)  



i love to see this shit

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 May 2009

Hey Z:

I haven't forgotten about Dave...on rare occasion he will post
asking about Pines. 

Although the remotes are not Dave's forte, he could give us some tips
on getting this issue into the public domain. I was hoping he was still
visiting the site and might chime in.

I think his input would be worth a lot!

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2009

Don't forget about Dave Nelson either, NoMo. Dave was a sharp guy and
knew the carriers intentions. We use to have some good threads on here.
Now we have Sam posting under thousands of names, repeating himself and
the word strike is in every other sentence. He has cluttered it up so
much that people can't post. I guess I'm guilty also because, I
answer him every time. I respect everyone's post of merit, but Sam
goes off the deep end. Nothing wrong with a few jokes or disagreeing
with other posters at times, but Sam has never agreed with anyone,
except himself, when he answers himself in another post with another
name. I laugh every time I think about the 2 pages of BS he put out
over a new contract and would not accept the fact there was no new
contract proposal as of yet.

You were right about Pines also. If he had known how to present
himself, he would have been the publics and one of our best allies. He
knew what was what, he just didn't know how to present it without
pissing people off. Most people and craft employees don't realize how
crooked some of these railroads are and what they can and will do to
protect their assets. Dave, had it figured out. I'm sure Sam would be
stepping on Dave's toes as well. He wants to teach, but doesn't have
the degree.

By the way Sambo I'm not retired, but I am as close as you can get to
it. I lay off more than the law will allow, trying to let some of the
cut off people make a living.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 May 2009

Nomo

The MAIN problem is there aren't enough guys like you, me, Z, even
Sam, that will stand together and make it happen.  Sure you have strong
oppinions everywhere you go but a lot of guys who are working right now
could care less as long as that check goes into the account every 2
weeks.  I've been out with plenty of very passive engineers who have
the mentality that they only have less than 5 years so they are just
"playing the game".  Now I know you have heard that one right?  I'll
be damned if I forget this Selkirk incident and if I have too, given
time, I will start a documentary on these bastards.  Could you imagine
the kind of bad attention that would bring?  A dateline special on CSX
and how its employees feel about the company they work for and
countless accidents that were covered up to make it look like the
employee was responsible. Hey, who's got the camera and who has the
gas money? 
I'll talk to you guys in a week...its time to take a break at the
beach.  Try not to delay any of those trains guys.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 May 2009

Hey RRJ:

You're right...it's just a coordinated effort by the carrier and
union to deflect our attention from the real issue here, which is why
are men dying during Remote operations.

The non-posting readers, many of whom may be in a position to help,
have grown weary of this bull shit and tuned out.

I know you remember Robert Pines, we haven't heard from him in a long
time. Every time he tried to post, he was assailed. Had he not been so
bitter against the crews, he could have been a very effective
advocate for crossing safety. He finally went away.

The post last week about the unions announcing a safety strike within
the week...the time has come and gone and no announcement. Now we have
to wait until Labor Day for it to occur...which it will not...pretty
soon everyone will lose interest and move back to truly petty issues.
And like Pines, this to will go away.

We need to stay on task here and not be distracted...if we are, it will
be just a matter of time before another life is lost!

Name: Sam 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2009

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2009

Lemonhead,

Furthermore, blah blah blah, blabbity blabbity....  
****************************************************
Once again, Chicken Pecker (Z, aka zorro, RRJ, Loco30+, et al) releases
a lot of hot air and tells us nothing.

This is a case of a retiree who has nothing better to do than post self
important gibberish. To each his own. Must be better than sucking down
lipitor at the nursing home, eh Zorro? er loco30, er Z, er RRJ, er
Goober, er ____________ (fill in the blank).

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 May 2009

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Retired? I wish still have more years.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Drunk again??? WOW all week long!!!!

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2009

Lemonhead,

I see Sam didn't answer your question either. I'm going to tell you
what I know, but nothing is concrete. I'm sure Sam will stick his nose
in again just like he did with the insults to RRJ. Just like he did on
me, when he was talking clueless about insurance and making false and
misleading accusations.

There are several factors that could determine how the HOS law will
affect the railroads. The location at which you work or the type jobs
that are predominant at certain locations are two of these factors. The
carriers themselves are another factor, in how they elect to run their
railroad. There could be local or even system agreements between union
and carrier that affect certain areas of railroads in different ways. 

I think some men will probably be called back, but how many is up in
the air with the economy and other factors. Roving off days have been
discussed on many railroads in order to give employees the 48 hour
period of time. Under the law extra boards reset after a 24 hour period
of time off to start your time over again. By this I mean if it is not
your off day and you do not work in a 24 hour period, your time is
reset to start over. CSX could elect to let trains sit until they have
rested people, or they may decide they want to railroad and call a few
back to work. Your question is not an easy one to answer because there
are to many variables that could transpire. I hope you guys do get
called back, but you can bet the carriers will try to circumvent the
law however they can.

I think within 15 days you will start hearing what the game plan is
from the unions and the railroad.

I certainly hope the it gets evetone back to work, but I wouldn't
count on it. I damn sure hope Sam gets recalled, he has to much time on
his hands.

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2009

Z to chicken molester, over.

I guess what you told RRJ would hold true for you also. Why don't you
STF up also since you are clueless, brakey less than 1.

Still waiting on a answer to those simple questions Engineer Sam.
Still waiting on a reply for my offer to let the webbie post how many
names you post under and how many times you answer yourself.

Hey, I bet Jim can get in the BLE website, with his 30 years of
service. In fact when we have a response section, for all railroads and
other categories. Someone started a topic on a dumb ass named Sam that
post on the CSX Sucks site posing as a Engineer with 30 years service.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2009

Zorro, loco 30+, Chicken Pecker, RRJ (or whatever your comic ID name
happens to be today)  50:50 is a mathematical FACT that means YOU DONT
KNOW SHIT ABOUT WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT...a "go flip a coin" answer,
is no answer. Didn't you ever pass kindergarden math?  (Duh) The guy
wants an answer, not a pull it out of your ass guess.  Why not just
stick to what you know, and not waste our time with what you dont know,
hot shot. Time for another viagra, Chicken Pecker?

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 May 2009

Once again Michael Ward proves that nothing is more important to him
than earning the stupid Harryman award.  Hey Mikey, how does second
place feel..AGAIN. I hope you never win it you piece of trash.  Now you
and Tony go sulk together and figure out how to cover up more accidents
so you can take gold next year.

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 May 2009

This Week's Message 
Hello, this is Michael Ward.

All of our hard work to improve safety has been recognized once again!
Last week in Washington, CSX received the Silver Harriman Award in
recognition of our safety performance. But that wasn't all. CSX also
received a Certificate of Commendation that recognized the most
improvement in employee safety over the past three years, and the most
improvement between 2007 and 2008. The awards were presented by Ed
Hamberger, the president and CEO of the Association of American
Railroads, and U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood was there,
too.

These are important accomplishments, made all the more significant by
the fact that U.S. railroads had their safest year ever in 2008. Among
the key factors in our improvement were rules compliance, sustained
investments in our infrastructure and facilities, and employees looking
out for employees. It's part of our culture that a tap on the shoulder,
or other friendly reminder, is how we keep each other safe. 

Among the CSX people in Washington for the awards ceremony was Larry
Davis, an electrician from Cumberland, Md. Larry was our nominee for
the Hammond Award, which recognizes extraordinary work by an individual
railroad employee to promote safety. In his 40-year career, Larry has
held a number of safety positions and has been an effective advocate
for safety. He is also an Operation Lifesaver volunteer and presenter,
who talks to school children and school bus drivers about being safe
around railroad tracks. Larry didn't take home the industry award, but
his great accomplishments have prevented injuries and saved lives, and
he's a winner in my book.

The Norfolk Southern won the Gold Harriman Award for the 20th year in a
row as the nation's safest railroad, and we congratulate them. But I
think it's time we took that Gold away! However, whether it's Gold or
Silver, we know the real winners are our employees who go home safely
each day.

Thanks for listening, have a safe, productive day, and I'll talk to
you again next week.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 May 2009

Sam

I gave the response to the question on the new HOS. Maybe if you'ld
stop all this bullschidt you might learn something. 

This crap is getting old. It might be amusing for you it distracts from
the real issues.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Its obvious who YOU are Master Chicken Pecker - 10 chickens in one -
Super Chicken Pecker. With delusions of being the Rooster. 

Sorry, Chicken, you will have to take your place with all the other
chickens in the barnyard, and follow along behind the pigs.
Ooooooohhhh, I bet that really gets you tastebuds drool'n, huh Chicken
Pecker!?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 May 2009

Your right there "fight the power"!!!  This is why I preach to these
young guys to get out of this as soon as possible.  I myself was a
"young guy" (2 years conductor).  But now I work for the federal
gov't.  And it is because of idiotic people like yourself and other
CSX management why I got out of this business (Actually, I am still in
it, just another profession).  You guys (CSX management and employees)
are low class scum of the earth.  And you have no respect for what
these union employees (UTU and BLE) do for you.  They put the money in
your pockets and food on your childrens tables. And now I am so glad I
have the job I have because I am going to work on bringing you people
down.  That has been my main goal since leaving because I love what I
did and the people I worked with.  Management (which was out of my
hands then, BUT NOT NOW) was just way too much.  And I just want to
make the railroad a happier, safe environment and a place where
everyone wants to come to work everyday AGAIN.  They deserve it (BLE &
UTU members).

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

That wasn't me Paranoid Sam.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Nobody knows how the new HOS will affect us....Hopefully it'll get
some back working but it won't be in great numbers till the economy
improves ......It's like a weatherman saying it's 50%
chance of rain 50% chance of sunshine today. It's anyones guess.
*****************************************************************

Loco30+ ......Spoken like a true namby pamby chicken pecker. 
Now he's a weatherman - clueless with no idea what he's talking
about. Economist?  Chicken Pecker?  LOL

Name: sAM
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 May 2009

LOCO30+,  your grandma has been calling you Chicken Pecker.  Seems you
escaped from the farmhouse coop.  Better get a move on before Animal
Control darts you and frys up some chicken livers. LOL

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Nobody knows how the new HOS will affect us. Hopefully it'll get some
back working but it won't be in great numbers till the economy
improves. According to the market analyst half are stating this year
half are stating next year. It's like a weatherman saying it's 50%
chance of rain 50% chance of sunshine today. It's anyones guess.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Lemonhead:
Nope probably not

Name: spongebob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Lemonhead,

    The date is July 16, 2009

Name: lemon head
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 May 2009

in june the hours of service law will kick in and help right???

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Enter rehab now Sam before you loose it. You post under so many names,
change your stories so much, you forget what you say.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

RRJ, it was so baffling I didn't know how to answer Parinoid Sam.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Sam

That was the most baffling post to date. It didn't make one bit of
sense. It was like one person with two personalites battling it out.
Imagine that. Hahaha!!!!!!

I'll post the contract for you. First you have to hold your breath. No
cheating. Even if you turn blue I'll be back with the contract. I
promise.

Name: SAm 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 May 2009
I never told anyone to go to the emergency room, that was another
poster
************************************************************
Ok, Z, or Loco 30+ or whoever you are - play the game......both of your
personalities are stupid -  One for saying go to the ER for a cold, and
the other one for repeating it.  

I wish you would also quit impersonating a engineer, it gives our craft
a bad name. 
***********************************************************
I am an engineer, a better one than you will ever dream of being. 

We have explained the contract enough to you 
(Read the post correctly, stupid. Its not me you need to explain the
contract to - it is the public. As an engineer and a member of BLET, I
have a copy of the contract....duh.....) 

It isn't time for one. 
(No shit, Sherlock) . 

When it is time to do one then it will be posted. 
(LOL. Who's gonna post it? You? LMAO)  

No need to get so defensive - stop beating around the bush, and post
the contract.  Just copy and paste.  Pretty simple stuff.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Sparky

If you continue your employment with CSX. You'll be forced into
engineer service. I guess that means your a future fuckwad in training.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2009

Retired? I wish still have more years.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 May 2009

IF you ask me all engineers are a bunch of fuckwods and you already have
a bad name oldfuck

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 May 2009

I see you can't keep your facts in order still. I never told anyone to
go to the emergency room, that was another poster, I wish you would
also quit impersonating a engineer, it gives our craft a bad name. Your
one dumb ass. We have explained the contract enough to you. There isn't
one. It isn't time for one. When it is time to do one then it will be
posted. Jeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 May 2009

loco 30+ aka zorro, aka RRJ, aka Allman Brothers, mighty kung foo
chicken pecker warrior: 

Ahhhh sooooo, master kung foo chicken pecker sez:    

oooooohhhhh.  dont nobody dare strike. oooooooonoooooooo. 
Why, the evil Tansmanian chicken devil will slither up from hell like a
fire breath'n dragon, suck your soul out through your cowardly yella
belly fear stricken eyeballs, and pork you in the arse with a
Lillyputin on steroids.  

Run little Chickens RUN!!! the sky is falling!  The sky is falling! 

LMAO

Time to check out lil chicken pecker  - no room for Corporate pussies
on the Union picket line.

Well, we never did see that online post of the contract - any contract
for that matter. Hmmmmmmm. Ever wonder why that is, folks?  Where's
the sunlight?  Only rats and vampires see better in dark rooms.......
Hmmmmmmm.

Oh, and dont forget to follow Chicken Pecker's advice - 

-make sure you go to the hospital emergency room in order to mark off
with a cold, so the hospital can be sure and choke you to death with a
humongous ER bill.  

Kung Foo Chicken Pecker:  doctor, doctor, my nose is runny. Boo hoo.
Poor me.  Pretty please can you give me a time off from work slip?!. 
Huh, pretty please.  I want to lead by example, doctor.  

Emergency Room Doctor:  sure there little chicken pecker. But first, we
will need some x-rays to diagnose you under proper ER guidelines, and
here's a shot of antibiotics to help you recover from that runny nose.
 

Kung Foo Chicken Pecker: golly gee, thanks Doc.  Your swell. 

Doctor: dont mention it pecker head - and here's your bill for $1,100
for ER services. Now, run along stupid.  

Kung Foo Chicker Pecker:   What?!!? $1,100 dollars??!! You screwed me!!
How dare you!?! I'm gonaa rip your head off and shit down your neck!

Doctor: you dont scare me little chicken pecker.  Your stupid, you
screwed yourself.  Next time, read the fine print on your health
insurance agreement, especially the part under ER visits and
deductibes.  Now get your ass outa my office and stay out (boots Kung
Foo Chicken Pecker master out the window).   

  
Dont worry about your future folks - Kung Foo Wocki Socki Chicken
Pecker will be sure to poop on yours - strike or no strike.    

LMAO

P.S. chicken pecker - when you are out n' about kickn trainmaster ass,
do you peck em to death, or just poop on em?   LOL.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 May 2009

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 May 2009

NoMo

Both unions BLE(T) an UTU are now closed shops on CSX. You can stop
them from taking it out of your paycheck automatically you'll still
have to pay the dues every month to your sec/tres of the
division/local. I wouldn't press the issue of not complying to union
dues. I for one would demand that person gets caught up on past dues
or
force the union to submit to strip that persons seniority even to the
point of termination. The young engineers in 2007 voted in the
BLET/CSX
SSA which forced engineers into a closed shop. Up until then an
engineer
didn't have to belong to any union. People didn't bother to read the
damn SSA all they did was to become blinded by a frigging bonus
program
and a schidty bid system. Which is to bad the only recourse for
protest
an engineer use to have was not belong to either union now that isn't
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XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Just more stupid stuff from an old retired fireman/engineer that thinks
the union is really good. This is a person that worked the Fireman's
seat for years, worked his rear off traveled all over the country cut
off starving loosing everything, and working that Fireman's seat every
day sound asleep and is the biggest bitcher about the conductor taking a
nap on this site. Good God does he have a few????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 May 2009

Goober

You idiot read the GD post. I stated firmly that I was against the SSA
which forced engineers into a closed shop. Seeing that others voted it
in I'll do everything to assure they get everything they wanted. Up
until 2007 it was common place to see engineers drop out of the union
as a form of protest. Because those that were blinded by ignorance
voted in this on-property contract that isn't possible any more. 

Give it up Goob. Your anti-union retoric you've spewed on this
website
for years is scratchy and skipping more than a 78rpm record. I know
you're old enough to remember
them.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

I could care less about what you Say you said, it is always not even
close to What you said. You are the only one that is opposed to SSA?
who cares?
You are living in the past! the only thing I posted was real life, you
can put the spin to it, and it will not change a thing, dipstick.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 May 2009

Lloyd

You got it partially correct. It's not that we are against a strike it
just won't happen unless it's union sanctioned. It's impossible to
wildcat strike on the railroad. There is to much goverment control. The
goverment knows the railroads are vital to this countries excistence. 

If anyone did have the balls to walk out on a wildcat I'd say good for
them. I'd also know they were now former employees of CSX or any
railroad. 

Someone mentioned the UAW. Like NoMo stated better look at the auto
workers now. Their giving up everything to keep a handful of jobs. It
isn't over yet. GM has till June 1st to come up with a plan. The UAW
will conceed or face extinction. Even with the new plan it's more
plant closings and loss of jobs. The UAW is in a delema trying to
secure the future of those retired. I always thought their retirement
age was to low. The comp time where a layed off employee drew 95% of
their wages was ridiculous especially for an undeterminate length of
time. Why the heck do you think cars are so expensive? When the foreign
auto makers came down south to build plants here in the USA it spelled
the doom for the UAW and the Big Three. Which is evident.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 May 2009

On the Attendance Policy thread there are only around 5 people NoMo,
Loco 30+, engine repair 10-20, and myself. The rest is this idiot
"Sam". Which I now see he's spewing his vomit on this thread. With
more mutiple personalities so he can slap himself on the back telling
himself how right he is.

I forget Sam was the dumbarse who kept posting that we needed to attach
the new contract. Which there isn't one. 

Yeah, he can be his own picket line holding 20 signs talking to
himself. He has a lot of company in that tiny cranium. Let's see
Safety Strike on Labor Day. That's a good one CSX will probabley be
closed down unless business picks up. You can really hurt them when
their not moving anything. Not. I would of never guessed CSX would of
closed down for Memorial Day that's never happened before.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 May 2009

Rememeber the union did not back the cn either

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 May 2009

In 30 days we go from you not knowing your Insurance policy and giving
advice on the policy to you organizing a strike. Your a Engineer for 30
years and can't even get into the members area on the BLE website. Give
it up Sam. Damn I still remember your dumb ass shit on wanting us to
publish the new contract when there isn't one. So dumb you refused to
believe it, when we kept telling you there wasn't a contract as of
yet.

Anyone cut off and willing to move to work for a short line contact
800-446-3823. May be some jobs or maybe not.

Name: Sam
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 May 2009

Lloyd, I agree. there is one person - aka loco30+, Z, zorro, allman
brothers, RRJ, are all the same guy. your estimate of 10 regular
posters is probably about 9 too many. there are some floaters, and
one-poppers - most of them furloughed or fired - so nothing to loose.
It is most interesting that out of 25,000 employees, only a handfull
have anything to say on here.  Which means, to me, that 24,990 dont
care, or only 1/1000th of 1% like to be computer jockies.  Oh, and a
third reason for anemic poster quantity - and very likely - CSX has the
ability to track anyone who posts on here and at least pinpoint their IP
location, if not their name and address with a little more sleuthing. 
************************************************************
hey there Chicken Pecker - try Viagra by the truckload. Might help your
problem.  
***********************************************************

24 hour nationwide Safety STrike is coming - Labor Day. 

mark your calanders.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 May 2009

Hey Loco 1-10:

Furloughed 4 times...you're right, it does suck but you keep coming
back for more! Surely there is somewhere in your seniority district
you can hold a job or are you subject to a flow-back agreement?

"The only way we get benefits like the auto workers is to strike.
That's how they got it.  That's how we can get it. Simple".

You didn't mention what benefits the auto workers have that are better
than yours. You also didn't mention that 50% of the auto workers are,
or will be out of a job.

I wonder what the RR unions' stipends is if they strike...
unemployment is better.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 May 2009

Yea same here worked for 10 months and made 14k

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 May 2009

Hey man, I think some of the plus 30 engineers and RRJ are about the
only ones totally opposed to a strike.  And I don't think its because
they don't feel like we should but rather that they think its
pointless because our union wont back it.  As far as Nomo goes, I've
never really heard him bash anything you have said or sound pro union. 

SD70, I know you told me to kiss your ass but I'll apologize for
sounding like an asshole.  I really have no beef with anyone here (or
at least I thought I didn't) so I'll try and be the bigger person.  
Also, could we stop with this whole multiple personality thing?  I'm
starting to think there might be a grand total of about 10 of us who
post on here.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 May 2009

Yep, I been layed off 4 times.  FOUR TIMES.  It sucks. 

Young guys take it in the ass. You can thank the spineless union, and
guys who post on here like NoMO, RRJ, Loco30+, Z, and Zorro for their
anti-strike rants - they are company supporters who are either retired
or close to retirement, and dont want to rock their cushy little
pension boat.  

The only way we get benefits like the auto workers is to strike.
That's how they got it.  That's how we can get it. Simple.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 May 2009

I have seen all I want to see in the last 3 years I have been employed
by this company. I came in being promised the world 43,000 in my first
year. I got laid off right after training I made 17,269.70 that year
and that was with counted earnings from my last employer. I was
fourloughed for over 1 year. I came back in Feburary of 2008 and
reqaulified and stayed marked up through 2008. I got laid off again in
Janurary of this year. Found a job paying better than unemployment to
support my family then the railroad called me back in the middle of
March so I quit that job and guess what got laid off again the 1st of
may. Now im sitting here wishing I wouldnt have quit that job. If I can
find a job in this sluggish economy making enough to pay my bills I am
not returning. A Man cant just support his family 6 months out of the
year and forget about them the other 6. I guess what im trying to say
is you do what you have to do and if that means taking less pay. Paying
a little more for benefits and getting a little bit dirtier than thats
what you have to do. You know if you havent noticed those gaurenteed
boards are close to gone. That 43,000 they promosed you. You will now
hae to cutt in half and thats what youll be making. You need to figure
in about 200 dollars more for your insurance cost. Dont foreget rising
union dues. Now when you sit down and figure all this up look and the
time away from home, the missed ball games, the birthdays etc and all
the herassment from csx. Compare all this with that of just taking
another job. You may be suprised. I seen a man who screws over every
conductor I will go ahead and say his name is MB Carter out of Erwin Tn
got elected to the UTU now come on wtf! Not onley that we have a
Engineer as our chairman WTF! Shouldnt it be a conductor. We also have
a another engineer who I beleive is the treasurer WTF! I dont know what
the hell people are thinking when they vote in these elections. Now lets
talk about safety. The safety cook-outs are for the cocksuckers they all
call each other real privately to see who wants to get a safety day no
one gives a shit about safety its about the $$$$ that you pay in union
dues brothers taht they slide in there pocket dont you feel used now
that you paid about ruffly 1,000 bucks for that hamburger ha! Who needs
all this shit I could go on and on but I leave it at this if your new or
3 years like myself get out now like i said add up your union dues that
trust me will go up. Add in the fack you will be getting no garuntee
anymore youll be piled on board with a bunch of people so your paycheck
is shot. your insurance will trust me go up by 200 dollars or more the
union will not protect you the union is as evil as the railroad i say
its another branch of the company ran by wards buddy. Lets vote ingram
into the utu!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 May 2009

This site does more for us than the unions and we spend how much every
month on dues? If I ever get off the furlough list I'll send the
webmaster some $$$. Hands up if you've ever sent any money. Anyone?
Anyone? Bueller?

Has anyone noticed that he's got an Amazon wish-list at the bottom of
the page? - http://csx-sucks.com/donate/

C'mon guys. Will someone buy the guy a book? It's been a few months
since that list turned. If you're working throw the guy a bone.

Thanks webbie!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 May 2009

Today being Memorial Day, I would like to say...

To all of you who served and all the family members of the fallen,
thank you for your sacrifice.

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hm0dRR1414&feature=related

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 May 2009

HELLO FELLAS I WANTED TO KNOW IF ANY CONDUCTORS or engineers HAVE
DELIVERED COAL TO KINDER MORGAN IN NEWPORT NEWS VIRGINIA?

WHO FIXES THE TRACK ON THEIR PROPERTY AND CAN I HAVE SOME INSIGHT ON
THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE? anything would be apreciated, and good luck
out there rail roaders it's tough, thanks.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 May 2009

Thanks fellas for the info ;]

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 May 2009

Only qualified employees can receive benefits under the Railroad
Unemployment Insurance Act. A new benefit year begins every July 1. To
qualify for benefits in a benefit year, you must have creditable
railroad earnings in the preceding calendar year (base year), counting
no more than a certain amount in any month. In addition, a new employee
must have railroad service in at least 5 months of his or her first year
of work in order to be eligible for benefits in the following benefit
year.

The amount of earnings needed to qualify for benefits in a benefit year
depends on the monthly compensation base in the base year. An employee
is required to have base year earnings of not less than 2- 1/2 times
the monthly compensation base applicable to months in that base year.
As the monthly compensation base increases, the amount of compensation
needed to qualify for benefits also increases.

Example:

Benefit Year Beginning — July 1, 2005

Earnings Needed in Base Year — $2,825.00 in 2004 (2 1/2 x $1,130.00 =
$2,825.00). If 2004 was your first year of railroad work, you must also
have railroad service in 5 months in 2004.

In this example, $1,130.00 is the monthly compensation base for base
year 2004. The monthly compensation base for base year 2005 is
$1,150.00. Contact your local RRB field office if you need information
about the monthly compensation base for other years.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 May 2009

If you had at least 20 weeks work paying into railroad retirement
benefits between July 1st 2008 to July 1st 2009 then you should qualify
for unemployment.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 May 2009

Whats with this july 1st crap? will we start getting umemployment?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 May 2009

Goofy

Just because you are a wimp and couldn't handle what it takes to
endure the struggles of a railroad job don't critize those of us who
did stick with it. It definitely was a better choice than your becoming
a cigarette vendor. How many have died over the use of your products?
Cough*Cough*Cough!!!!!!! I think the orderly is looking for you it's
time for your meds.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 May 2009

Goober

You idiot read the GD post. I stated firmly that I was against the SSA
which forced engineers into a closed shop. Seeing that others voted it
in I'll do everything to assure they get everything they wanted. Up
until 2007 it was common place to see engineers drop out of the union
as a form of protest. Because those that were blinded by ignorance
voted in this on-property contract that isn't possible any more. 

Give it up Goob. Your anti-union retoric you've spewed on this website
for years is scratchy and skipping more than a 78rpm record. I know
you're old enough to remember them.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 May 2009

To all the guys at Russell stepping up to help the company I hope your
making plenty of money while 81 of sit at home, most not able to draw
anything till july 1. I'll remember who you are, and also why don't
you all just apply for management jobs since your so concerned with
doing CSX favors you greedy non union acting suck asses, your the
reason why our unions are week.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 May 2009

True story
After the BLF&E told me the job is secure, got a notice the next month
arb 282 has eliminated your job.  Well shit just paid my dues. 
Got a job as a brakeman, lucky me. Got a few applications from the BRT,
threw all of them away. After 2 years the pressure started, filled 1 out
and sent it in with my $12.00. Payroll deduction__ no thanks. Got my hat
pin from the union threw that away. They started calling me a no bill,
Heck I had the card, case closed. I never paid monthly just when it
suited me. Nothing they could do, as soon as they started the no bill
shit I paid a month. It stopped the greedy bastards only wanted my
money. Same today. I was starving and they just wanted $12.00 per
month.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 May 2009

The Below post is exactly why so many continue to pay. There is no way
out we must pay. If you refuse to pay I will strip your seniority to
Termination. Now folks this is a form of imtimidation that the union
uses to keep you paying. Cut that next union check to yourself and see
what happens, One Engineer is going to cut your nut's off,I think not
big enough, he is just 1 of thousands. Most are overemployed
old heads that had no where to go, so they want to run your life, after
they fu-- up the unions for years.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 May 2009

NoMo

Both unions BLE(T) an UTU are now closed shops on CSX. You can stop
them from taking it out of your paycheck automatically you'll still
have to pay the dues every month to your sec/tres of the
division/local. I wouldn't press the issue of not complying to union
dues. I for one would demand that person gets caught up on past dues
or
force the union to submit to strip that persons seniority even to the
point of termination. The young engineers in 2007 voted in the
BLET/CSX
SSA which forced engineers into a closed shop. Up until then an
engineer
didn't have to belong to any union. People didn't bother to read the
damn SSA all they did was to become blinded by a frigging bonus
program
and a schidty bid system. Which is to bad the only recourse for
protest
an engineer use to have was not belong to either union now that isn't

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 May 2009

why is jacksonville doing this my husband has been with the company 35
years and he may lose his job what will we do do they care my
son-in-law just lost his job as a conductor he has 5 years on the
railroad he went away to school cost him alot  of money he studied hard
and was hired, five years later he has a 1 year old and  another baby
due in september do you care your decision with frontier yard ruined
our family do you care what would you do if this was happening to you 
do you know how many lives and family you are destroying do you care
help theses families give them their jobs back your the only one who
can do it go to sleep tonight knowing you did something good maybe
someday you will be rewarded thank you

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 May 2009

NoMo

The only drop out provision is with the productivity bonus. We should
be getting ballots shortly to determine to stay with it or revert back
to the national pay raise which the BLET must notify CSX by Sept 14th
2009. The rest of the SSA work rules stay intact. People don't seem to
understand how much they lost. Blinded by speculation of a bonus which
is taxed heavily up to 40% even if you opt to put it in your 401K it's
still taxed at 16%. If CSX and the BLET want this type of bonus pay
raise speculation to continue it better include a decent actual daily
pay rate. The 2007 daily pay rate increase was only 3% which CSX took
away 1 1/2% because the national pay raise of 18 1/2% compounded agreed
to that decrease by including payments of the Harris COLA payment from
2005-6 as part of the contract. Our General Chairmen who negotiated the
SSA didn't bother to put in writting that our measily 3% wouldn't be
affect. Another case of GC's with George Meany Center training or a
Junior College degree getting hoodwinked by a Harvard or equivalent
grad shoving it up their arses. The only positive is my time is short I
can live with it. With the new Fed regs reducing monthly work hours down
to 276 max it's going to hurt a lot of people those bonus checks will
shrink even if CSX margins pay out 100%. There are still enough idiots
out here that will vote to continue and those that won't take 5
minutes to vote. In 2007 only 51% took the time to send their ballot in
it passed by only 400 votes.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 May 2009

Hey RRJ:

The SSA is still biting the engineers in the ass and will for some
time. Can't the engineers opt out? Seems I remember seeing a escape
clause somewhere in there.

The gnashing of the teeth is just around the corner. There's a lot on
the engineers plate now with the fatality and contract time. I hope
both issues get the time and discussion they deserve.

Name: Safety Strike
E-mail: Safety Strike.com
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 May 2009

$350,000 in fines is chicken feed. CSX makes that in overcharges to one
tiny customer in one hour. 

Its cheaper to kill you or maim you, than it is to make you safe.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 May 2009

let us all email CSX Spin Doctor Bob Sullivan and find out what the
investigation into Jerods accident has turned up.
Bob Sullivan
1-877-835-5279
robert_sullivan@csx.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 May 2009

thank you very much for the input wildman, the type of jobs that i was
looking at with kinder morgan were:
maintenance man, compared to(csx freight cart repair)
facility worker, compared to (csx track worker)
loader, compared to (csx heavy equipment operator)
machinist, compared to (csx machinist), and i also think that kinder
morgan is a non union if i am not mistaken, just wanted to know who
would i be better off.  i do not know if any one on this site has any
one that works or knows of kinder morgan.  I also know this web site
says CSX sucks but it could be worth a try, any inputs will be greatly
apreciated. thanks railroaders!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 May 2009

Ward and Ingram cant get that Harriman to save their life....maybe you
need a new star player Ward, cause Ingram aint shit.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 May 2009

NoMo

Both unions BLE(T) an UTU are now closed shops on CSX. You can stop
them from taking it out of your paycheck automatically you'll still
have to pay the dues every month to your sec/tres of the
division/local. I wouldn't press the issue of not complying to union
dues. I for one would demand that person gets caught up on past dues or
force the union to submit to strip that persons seniority even to the
point of termination. The young engineers in 2007 voted in the BLET/CSX
SSA which forced engineers into a closed shop. Up until then an engineer
didn't have to belong to any union. People didn't bother to read the
damn SSA all they did was to become blinded by a frigging bonus program
and a schidty bid system. Which is to bad the only recourse for protest
an engineer use to have was not belong to either union now that isn't
possible.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 May 2009

CSX Transportation has paid nearly $350,000 for federal rail safety
violations uncovered during a 23-state inspection last year, according
to the Federal Railroad Administration.

FRA Administrator Joseph Boardman said the Northeast's largest
railroad had made "significant strides'' in short-term improvements
after a systemwide FRA inspection in January 2007 that found 3,518
safety defects, including 199 serious violations.

"But CSX cannot make this a one-time fix. The railroad must stay
focused and not be distracted from making the necessary long-term
investments in infrastructure, technology, and employees that will
strengthen its safety culture and performance,'' Boardman said in a
statement.

The special FRA inspection of CSX operations was prompted by a series
of accidents, including one on Dec. 14, 2006, when a CSX worker was
struck and killed by a train at the DeWitt rail yard. Last March, a CSX
freight train derailed near Oneida and several propane tanker cars
exploded in a fireball that was visible from miles away. No one was
hurt, but thousands of people were temporarily evacuated from their
homes.

The Oneida case was the fifth serious upstate New York accident
involving CSX rail cars in a matter of four months. At the time,
federal rail safety officials said the company was not doing enough to
address safety problems.

The government decided to pursue civil penalties in 166 of the 199
serious cases, including two in New York, said Steve Kulm, a FRA
spokesman.

The $349,265 in penalties settled 141 of the violations. The other 25
cases remain open, he said.

Kulm said the fines were not in response to any one specific accident,
but addressed the series of accidents CSX experienced.

U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, who has called for Congress to hold hearings
on CSX and its safety problems, said the company was allowed off the
hook with a small penalty.

"With nearly 200 violations of federal safety and hazardous material
regulations, a mere $350,000 in fines for CSX Corp. is a slap in the
face to the communities who suffered from these dangerous
derailments,'' Schumer said.

CSX had no comment about the fines, a spokesman said.

In a statement, the company said it was committed to "continuing its
strong safety improvements'' through prudent long-term investments in
infrastructure and technology.

Jacksonville, Fla.-based CSX operates a 22,000-mile rail network,
covering 23 states, the District of Columbia, and two Canadian
provinces.

Copyright 2009 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may
not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 May 2009

WASHINGTON -- A bill to strip railroads of a limited antitrust immunity,
and therefore open them to more legal pressure from states and shippers,
and create more competition in the rail industry, could move to the
Senate floor for a vote soon after Congress returns from its upcoming
Memorial Day recess, reports the Journal of Commerce. 
In the House, a similar bill received a hearing May 19 before an
antitrust subcommittee, where Republicans as well as Democrats voiced
support for the measure. The House version would have to clear the
House Judiciary Committee before proceeding to the House floor for a
vote. 

Separately, the Consumer Federation of America released a report May 19
that railroads are using their market power to gouge shippers, charging
some $3 billion more annually than they could if there were more
competition in the rail industry. 

Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), who sponsored the measure that cleared the
Senate Judiciary Committee earlier this year, told the Journal of
Commerce he will put the antitrust bill before the full Senate “shortly
after the holiday.” 

Some observers thought this measure could be folded into
behind-the-scenes negotiations by staff of the Senate Commerce
Committee to craft a new rail competition law that would try to resolve
many shipper-railroad disputes and give regulators at the Surface
Transportation Board new marching orders. 

Kohl would not comment on those talks, but repeated that he plans to
bring the Railroad Antitrust Enforcement Act to the Senate floor soon
after the recess, which runs May 25-29. 

The railroad industry is pushing hard to defeat the antitrust measure,
even though it has participated in the backstage talks on the separate
competition bill. 

Kohl’s bill would treat railroads much like other corporations by
giving the Justice Department and Federal Trade Commission a role
reviewing proposed mergers for anticompetitive issues, instead of
leaving them as now solely under the STB’s jurisdiction. 

It would also tell district courts that they do not have to give the
STB primary jurisdiction over disputes, meaning that more customer or
community complaints could go to court instead of first being ruled on
by the agency. While the U.S. Court of Appeals can review STB
decisions, it rarely overturns them, so having courts rule earlier in
the process would weaken the STB’s dominance of rail-shipper service or
rate disputes. 

The Kohl bill would attack bottleneck issues, in which shippers say the
railroads can prevent customers from getting competitive bids from other
carriers for part of the trip, locking them into one carrier and its
rates in many cases. It would also allow shippers to challenge the
“paper barriers” or lock-in clauses that limit their carrier choices
when a Class I railroad has sold some of its track to a short line. 

Kohl has been trying to get such a measure passed since 2006, but it
could have a better chance of making it into final law this year. 

In the House May 19, Democrats and Republicans on an antitrust
subcommittee expressed basic support for a bill similar to the Senate
version, reports Dow Jones newswire. 

Subcommittee chairman Hank Johnson (D-Ga.), said the antitrust
exemptions for railroads have contributed to higher shipping prices
that translated into higher prices for consumers. "As a matter of
public policy, we shy away from antitrust exemptions," Johnson said. 

Dow Jones observed that four railroads – BNSF, CSX, Norfolk Southern
and Union Pacific – “dominate the rail shipping business.” 

(The preceding article is based on reports from the Journal of
Commerce, Dow Jones newswire and other sources.)

Name: 
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Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 May 2009

After they found out they lost their job, could it be the remains of a
CSX employee that was found inside the burned out car?
  

Body found in burning car in eastern 

Kyhttp://www.kentucky.com/471/story/801874.html

The Associated Press 
A body has been found inside a burning car, spotted in eastern Kentucky
by a railroad crew.

Kentucky State Police said CSX employees reported seeing the car on
fire in rural Johnson County near Offut early Tuesday. Firefighters who
responded to the call found the human remains inside.

The Lexington Herald-Leader reported the state medical examiner will
determine whether the body was that of a man or a woman.

KSP Trooper Mike Goble said the car was found on a gravel road off Ky.
2040, at least a half-mile from the nearest home.

Name: 
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Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 May 2009

27 CSX employees to be furloughed
http://www.thetimestribune.com/local/local_story_140081038.html
May 20, 2009 08:10 am

— By Sean Bailey / Staff Writer
Twenty-seven employees of the CSX locomotive shop in Corbin learned
Monday they would be furloughed for an indefinite amount of time. 
CSX spokesperson Garrick Francis said the furloughs are a result of the
economic downturn plaguing businesses across the country. 
Francis said the railroad transportation company which has tracks
throughout the eastern portion of the United States has furloughed
2,400 people company wide and has had to put 30,000 cars in storage
since the economy began to sag. 
“It’s tough out there,” Francis said, “...We, as business conditions
get better, are hoping to b able to call them back to work.” 
Francis said the 27 full-time employees in Corbin will remain on call
if business turns up again, as it often does seasonally.
In the meantime the employees furloughed will still have four months of
health and wellness benefits, Francis said. 

Copyright © 1999-2008 cnhi, inc.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 May 2009

you see the name of this website by any chance??
what do you think our answer is going to be?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 May 2009

hello, rail roaders!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO IS IT BETTER TO WORK FOR AS FAR AS A MAINTENANCE WORKER, CSX OR
KINDERMORGAN (PLANT OR COAL YARD)!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE NEED ALL INPUTS I AM
TRYING TO SAVE MY SELF FROM MAKING A BIG MISTAKE, NEED HELP!

Name: 
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Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 May 2009

That bill must be a hoax.  Scan it and post it on Yardlimits.com and
Railroad.net  let it get around.   So the Useless Tramps Union said it
was for real??????????????????????????????????//

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 May 2009

Hey Butch:

A bill for $4,500...for what?

File it in the circular file and don't worry about it...it's hard to
get blood out of a turnip!

Name: Butch
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 May 2009

I applied for a job and got laid off before i got hired.  
CSX sent me a bill for $4500.  They said that it was a dis-appointment
bill - disappointed that they could not fire me after they hired me, so
they fired me before they hired me. Unions said it was legite. whut
should i do?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 May 2009

Another good investment by TCI...maybe they will use the proceeds from
the sale of CSX stock to cover their position!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 May 2009

TCI Cuts $1 Billion of Japanese Short Positions in Two Months 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=ay5tFHVU_E8M&refer=asia#

By Tomoko Yamazaki

May 19 (Bloomberg) -- The Children’s Investment Fund Management UK LLP,
a $9.5 billion U.K. hedge fund, cut its short positions in Japanese
stocks including Toshiba Corp. by almost $1 billion in less than two
months, exchange filings show. 

The London-based fund, also known as TCI, had about $248 million worth
of short positions in 12 Japanese stocks, data based on exchange
filings compiled by Bloomberg show, compared with about $1.2 billion on
April 3. 

TCI reduced its short positions in eight of 13 stocks including Sharp
Corp., Japan’s biggest maker of liquid-crystal- display televisions,
and Mizuho Financial Group Inc., Japan’s second-biggest bank by
revenue, according to filings since April. 

These bets that Japanese stocks would fall come as the Nikkei 225 Stock
Average surged more than 20 percent in the past three months, prompting
managers to cover their short positions to cut losses. 

In a short sale, an investor sells borrowed shares with plans to buy
them back later at a lower price, pocketing the price difference. If
the stock rises instead, they have to pay more to cover the position. 

TCI’s short position in Toshiba represented about 4.3 percent of the
outstanding shares of Japan’s biggest chipmaker, according to a filing
made by the fund to the exchange on March 4. As of yesterday’s filing,
TCI’s short position had fallen to about 0.2 percent. Toshiba’s shares
gained 51 percent in between the two filings. 

TCI spokesman Rahul Moodgal in London couldn’t immediately be reached
for comment. 

Short-Sale Curbs 

The Japanese government extended restrictions on short selling,
originally implemented in October, to July from the end of March. These
include a ban on so-called naked short selling and requirements for
short positions of more than 0.25 percent of the outstanding shares of
a stock to be reported to the Tokyo Stock Exchange, which publishes the
data on its Web site. 

TCI’s fund fell 43 percent in 2008, as global hedge funds were battered
by client withdrawals and the worst market losses since the 1930s. John
Ho, the Asia head of TCI, will leave the hedge fund after disagreement
with the firm’s founder on the investment strategy in the region, a
person familiar with the matter said last month. 

Ho’s departure follows that of co-founders Snehal Amin and Patrick
Degorce, who left the firm this year. Christopher Cooper-Hohn remains
the only founding partner at the fund. At least 11 executives have
resigned from TCI since the fund started in 2003, according to U.K.
filings. 

To contact the reporter on this story: Tomoko Yamazaki in Tokyo at
tyamazaki@bloomberg.net 

Last Updated: May 18, 2009 22:02 EDT

Name: retired
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 May 2009

HELLO sAM WITH 30 YEARS ENG SERVICE ;; you are either a dumb ass or a
smart ass posting on every section. have a good day.

Name: SAM
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 May 2009

Z, you back from Grandma's house?  How were your milk and cookies? 

Oh - my - god.  Just posted this on every section.  whaddayaknow. 

Say Z,  when the CSX homos demand you pee in their bottle while they
hold your Johnson to ensure authenticity of personal urination,
you gonna thank the Unions for their support?  LOL.

Dont forget - milk and cookies at 5.

Name: SAFETY STRIKE
E-mail: SAFETY STRIKE. COM
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 May 2009

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Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 May 2009

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 May 2009

Why strike? Just call payroll and tell them to withhold your dues
until
further notice...put the onus on the unions. It won't take them long
to get the message...no dues without representation!
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

WOW Wonderful idea, been preaching that for many years. NOTE the UTU
claims 55k Conductors that are under their contract. At $1.00 per
month, yeh you do your own math, it goes way up from 55k per month.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 May 2009

Anyone ever look thru the CSX Code of Ethics booklet?
I fell over when I read this when it came out.
It's on page 9.

Waivers of the Code of Ethics

A waiver of the Code of Ethics for CSX Board members or executive
officers may only be made by the Board of Directors or a Committee

It's good to be King!
Maybe if they didn't have this waver those tapes would be in the NTSB
and FRA's hands.


http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/irol/92/92932/corpgov/CSXCodeofEthicsFeb2008.pdf

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 May 2009

I'm getting tired of reading it six times. Put it in the right place
and only once.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 May 2009

Is there any reason why we need more that one board to post?

I'm getting tired of reading folks complaining about multiple posts!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 May 2009

Whoever said to quit posting on every board - thank you.  Sucks to read
the same shit on every board.  If only the morons would listen.

Name: Suffern Pathetic
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 May 2009

Yep, the UP is on the ball.  Yeessiirrrreeeee. 
They bought the SP for billions, then found out all the SP had was 3
billion in debts. Guess who choked on that one? 
From the Suffering Pathetic to the Utterly Pathetic.  SOS.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 May 2009

I only worked at csx for 89 days before i got laid off. anyone know when
they will call back?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 May 2009

Railway Keeps Its Furloughed at Hand 

The rail-shipping business is off by double-digit percentages, but
railroad giant Union Pacific Corp. doesn't want to worry about meeting
demand if and when it rebounds.

For that reason, almost a third of Union Pacific's 5,000 furloughed
workers are operating on a retainer, with full benefits and partial
wages, even though it is costing the company $50 million a year.

James R. Young, Union Pacific's chief executive, said the company is
determined to avoid a repeat of a 2004 fiasco, when it was caught
unprepared for a sharp upturn in business. The U.S. had gradually
emerged from the recession that followed the dot-com bust and the 2001
terror attacks. Then suddenly in 2004, the company's shipping volumes
jumped roughly 10% to 12% in a six-month period. Union Pacific wasn't
ready and the result was a network meltdown, with rolling bottlenecks
and delays that had disastrous repercussions for its thousands of
customers.

 
Bloomberg News
 
James R. Young, Union Pacific's chief executive, below, says partially
furloughed workers can be called back more quickly.
. 
Associated Press
 .."We just flat-out cut too far" in the years preceding the 2003 and
2004 recovery, said Mr. Young, who was named CEO of the Omaha, Neb.,
company in 2005.

To make sure it has adequate staffing should the economy recover
quickly this time around, Union Pacific is paying full health benefits
for 1,600 of its roughly 5,000 furloughed employees. These 1,600
employees, many of them train conductors, also work eight days a month
so that they can remain current on their training and qualifications.
Mr. Young estimates that calling one of these employees back to work
will take fewer than 30 days, compared with 60 to 90 days for other
furloughed workers.

"This thing could snap back pretty quickly, and in our business we
don't have the luxury of telling a customer 'No,' " Mr. Young
said.

All big U.S. railroads face a complicated calculus now: how to cut
expenses as freight volumes fall without leaving themselves unable to
respond quickly as the economy rebounds. Union Pacific's approach
represents a compromise of sorts. While it is furloughing a larger
percentage of workers than its largest competitor, Burlington Northern
Corp., it is also investing millions to make sure these sidelined
employees can return to work as quickly as possible.

Railroads are expected to experience a jump in volumes several months
before a broader economic recovery. Getting caught unprepared could
cost them business and could hamper a larger economic rebound by
snarling the movement of the goods that railroads transport. More than
40% of freight in the U.S. moves by rail.

Until December, rival Burlington Northern had a furlough policy similar
to Union Pacific's. A certain percentage of furloughed workers kept
their benefits and were paid a "modest monthly income," spokesman
Patrick Hiatte said. But the Fort Worth, Texas, company discontinued
the practice "when it became clear to us that the recession was
getting worse" and that costs needed to be cut, Mr. Hiatte said.

Now, furloughed workers at Burlington Northern, like the other big
railroads, CSX Corp. and Norfolk Southern Corp. , lose their benefits
after several months.

Burlington, which has a current work force of 38,000, has furloughed
roughly 7.8% of its employees, compared with more than 10% for Union
Pacific, which employs 45,000.

James Stem, national legislative director for the United Transportation
Union, which represents 55,000 conductors working on the North American
railroads, praised Union Pacific's approach and predicted the other
railroads would spend more money in the long run on hiring and
retraining.

Norfolk Southern, the nation's fourth-largest railroad by revenue,
says that rather than mimic Union Pacific's furlough policy, it has
chosen to minimize the number of furloughs. The company has furloughed
only 1,200 from its 30,000 work force, compared with 2,300 for CSX, the
nation's third-largest railroad and Norfolk Southern's main competitor
in the eastern half of the U.S.

Union Pacific's furlough program comes at a time when the railroad has
been making what some customers and analysts say are noticeable gains in
its performance in recent years.

The company's reputation was in need of burnishing. Aside from the
problems of 2004, many customers still remember 1997 and 1998, when
Union Pacific's merger with Southern Pacific Rail Corp. caused
widespread service problems and paralyzed ports on the West Coast.

Rick Paterson, a UBS analyst, said Union Pacific's average train
speed, considered a good measure of performance, has increased 22%
during the past year. Only some of this improvement is a function of
lower volumes, which result in less-congested tracks, Mr. Paterson
said.

By comparison, Burlington Northern's average train speed has improved
only 11% in the past year, Mr. Paterson said.

The true measure of the company's progress, Mr. Young says, will come
when the economy improves, adding that Union Pacific simply can't
afford another poor performance. "Customers have a long memory," he
said.

Write to Alex Roth at alex.roth@wsj.com

Name: retired
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 May 2009

IT LOOKS LIKE ALL YOU DUMMIES LIKE STEVE GORDON WOULD JUST QUIT POSTING
YOUR COMMENTS ON EVERY LIST THAT IS ON C S X SUCKS JUST ON ONE WILL
DO.NO ONE LIKES TO READ THE SAME ARTICLE SIX TIMES.

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 May 2009

Dear All-

On Friday the 15th, the United States Court of Appeals in D.C. decided
a case styled BNSF v. Dept. of Transportation. It has to do with the
railroads performing urinalysis tests on railroad employees but there
is more. The DOT argued and prevailed that the railroad must now strip
the person down to make sure they are not using a device that looks
like male genitalia (in the opinion it was called a "Whizzinator"
but, apparently, there are others)when giving the urine. I have posted
an article in Yardlimits.com and attached the opinion in a Microsoft
Word attachment so you can download it and read it for yourself. 

The link is here:
http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/ask-attorney-steve-gordon-gordon-elias-law-firm/12298-casey-jones-whizzinator-gig-no-good.html#post114211

From an academic constitutional law perspective it is a monumental and
radical departure from 4th Amendment precedent albeit a foreseeable
result due to the compelling need to have a drug free workplace in the
transportation industry. However, from a railroad employee's
perspective it is extremely intrusive and embarrassing.

I highly recommend reading the opinion.

Sincerely,

Steve Gordon
www.gordon-elias.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 May 2009

Greece, N.Y)- Some abandoned CSX cars that left people in a Greece
neighborhood with eyesores in their backyard, were finally moved
Saturday. 

The cars were sitting just feet from neighbors backyards for weeks. CSX
blamed the recession as the reason, saying consumers are buying less
therefore rail cars shipping less.

Neighbors in the Pebbleview Neighborhood say they're thankful that the
cars are no longer there.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 May 2009

A comment or two about the Greenbrier. 

CSX got the Greenbrier with the C&O. At the time, the Greenbrier was a
world class resort. The decline started under John Snow and has
continued under Ward's reign of terror.

The CSX management can't run their primary line of business, let alone
a consumer intense business like a resort. For years the Greenbrier has
been run for the benefit of the CSX brass, political cronies, biggest
customers and their families.

The Greenbrier could have been put on the market and sold for 10x what
the $20 million Justice paid for it. Justice was successful because he
acquired the debt. Because of that, he has 100%
support from the creditors and the bankruptcy court would have approved
Justice's plan over Marriott's.

Today, CSX's interests are in developing commercial and industrial
properties which they can service by rail. Considering CSX wants to be
a line haul carrier (as witnessed by the disposal, either by sale or
lease, of thousands of miles of road over the last 10 years and the
abysmal customer service they provide) I find this amazing. However,
I'm sure the top management of CSX, their political and
business buddies and their families have, to some degree, ownership
interest in these properties.

At what point does the management's business and personal interests
diverge? What constitutes a conflict of interest? Are these decisions
illegal or unethical...you be the judge.

Based on the Greenbrier fiasco, CSX can't even fail smartly!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 May 2009

"the railway company CSX, placed the property in Chapter 11 bankruptcy
reorganization, telling a judge that it was "unable and unwilling to
continue funding" losses."


If CSX can go bankrupt on an individual property, Please, Please Go
bankrupt on the Conrail properties from 1999. Return them to a Good
railroad company.

Thanks 

:)

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 May 2009

"the railway company CSX, placed the property in Chapter 11 bankruptcy
reorganization, telling a judge that it was "unable and unwilling to
continue funding" losses."



WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, W.Va. -- The Greenbrier resort's new owner --
the man who outmaneuvered the mighty Marriott International -- is a
coal baron who just sold some mines to the Russians for $436 million.
He is enormous and boisterous, standing 6-foot-7 and weighing enough
that he calls himself a "fat hog." He is the president of the local
youth baseball league and coach of the girls' high school basketball
team and is driven around town by his buddy Moe. 

"These people haven't seen anything quite like me," James C. Justice
II said the other day, over a sandwich and fries at the resort. 

And neither has Marriott, which last night agreed to a settlement with
Justice to avoid a battle in federal bankruptcy court in Richmond,
where the two sides were scheduled to wrangle for control of the
historic resort -- the place where Joseph and Rose Kennedy honeymooned
and 26 presidents have visited. (Prince Rainier and Princess Grace
stopped by, too.) 

With Justice winning control, some residents said, he will forever be
seen as a savior to this quiet town in the mountains whose fortunes
have fallen alongside the resort. The Greenbrier has endured hundreds
of layoffs and brutal labor negotiations amid a steep drop-off in guest
visits. The prospect that a local man, not some corporate muckety-muck,
could be signing their paychecks had even led residents to pack
churches and praise Justice. 

"I believe the Good Lord sent him for us," said Greg Scott, a
preacher and doorman at the hotel for more than a dozen years who has
seen 14 of his neighbors laid off. "We had no hopes, no plans. It was
a glorious day when he arrived." 

That was less than two weeks ago, after Justice surprised the town and
executives at Bethesda-based Marriott International by announcing that
he had bought the resort for $20 million. In March, the hotel's
previous owner, the railway company CSX, placed the property in Chapter
11 bankruptcy reorganization, telling a judge that it was "unable and
unwilling to continue funding" losses. 

As part of the bankruptcy, CSX made a deal to sell the resort to
Marriott for $60 million to $130 million, depending on the resort's
future financial performance. CSX also agreed to give Marriott $50
million to run the hotel. The deal was contingent on CSX winning an
agreement with the resort's unions that was also agreeable to
Marriott. An accord was reached, and everything was looking spiffy for
the world's largest hotel chain. 

But Justice, who owns coal mines and large farming operations in
several nearby states, was lurking. He went to CSX in April, offering
to buy the stock in the entity that owned the resort, assume the debt
and move to have the bankruptcy case dismissed -- an unusual step,
according to bankruptcy experts, who said buyers usually prefer to
acquire assets out of bankruptcy free of debt. Why would Justice go
through all the trouble to take on a business he knows nothing about
and take on more than $100 million in bills? 

He said it had nothing to with the state recently approving casino
gambling at the resort: "That's just bull snot," Justice said. 

"I don't want to damage these people anymore. I live here. I don't
want to dash their hopes," he said. "I am honestly stone-cold
confident that I can bring to the table a lot of good stuff. I won't
be the guy who thinks with the standard hotel mentality. This place
can't be run that way." 

Marriott officials met with Justice in Lewisburg, W.Va., yesterday to
strike a deal. Under their settlement, both sides have 30 days to come
to an agreement allowing Marriott to market the property and receive a
fee for any guests it generates for the resort. If an agreement is not
reached, Justice will pay a $7.5 million breakup fee, Justice said. 

"We have amicably resolved any dispute with Mr. Justice, and we will
not oppose the motion to dismiss the bankruptcy," Marriott said in a
statement. 

No matter what the outcome of the talks, Justice has won total control
of the Greenbrier. 

"I needed the control," Justice said in an interview. "I'd be
letting these people down without it." 


Justice won over the community by hiring back furloughed workers and
reopening the union contract to increase health insurance and other
benefits, including allowing employees to eat one meal a day at the
resort. 

Last week, West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin III (D) and Sen. John D.
Rockefeller IV threw their support behind Justice, saying he's the
right person to run the national historic landmark. A four-hour drive
from Washington, Greenbrier features 721 rooms, 10 lobbies, three golf
courses, a large medical clinic for executive checkups and a
once-secret bunker for Congress to convene in the event of a nuclear
attack. 

"I would hope Marriott sees we have someone here with the passion, the
wherewithal and the resources to own the Greenbrier," Manchin said in
an interview. Rockefeller sent Justice a handwritten note saying: "I
can't tell how proud I am of you and how happy I am for West Virginia.
Without a doubt you have absolutely saved the Greenbrier." 

White Sulphur Springs, like many small towns, harbors resentment toward
corporate America, which has brought Wal-Marts and other big-box stores
to town and -- in the view of some residents -- sucked local businesses
dry. On Main Street, barber Mike Lane can look through the shop's
window and see that all of the stores across the street are for rent. 

"Are they going to crumble, or are there going to be some businesses
there?" Lane said. "I'd like to see more businesses. I'd like to
cut more hair." He said he thinks someone with ties to the town has a
more vested interest in the resort. "I want him to do well," he said.


Peter Bostic, the union's business manager, agreed with Lane. "He
will hold the place closer to the chest than an international
company," Bostic said. 

Justice said his immediate goals include beginning work on a casino,
but more important, he wants to win back the resort's Mobil five-star
rating, which it lost in 1999. The key to earning that fifth star, he
said, was improving his employees' outlook. His theory is that if his
employees are happy, they will make the guests happy. If that sounds
familiar, it's what J.W. Marriott Jr. has preached for decades. 

"I think it's all driven by state of mind," Justice said. "These
people here are great. But how great can you be when you are worried if
your family is going to be supported? These people have been through a
really tough go of it and so we are in the process of lifting the cloud
and bringing the sun back out."

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 May 2009

Welcome back!
Still nothing from our ignorant CEO I see...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 May 2009

I say strike strike strike and fuck the utu and ble lets fucking strike
against both of them fuck csx and the unions you better do something
before july

Name: T.B. Franks
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 May 2009

I say we storm jackassville headquarters and throw mike ward out the
10th story window along with the rest of the criminals including the
stupid Bitch who runs the RCO program.    

STRIKE!!!!  SAFETY STRIKE.  WILD CAT STRIKE. 

Call it what you want. 

We MUST stike - STOP THE INJURIES AND THE KILLINGS.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 May 2009

Hey Mr UTU Man, did you ever think of fighting against 1 man remote
jobs? That might have saved a few hundred jobs and maybe a few lives!
How about fighting against peg legged yard jobs? How much money did the
carriers get their lawyers to give you? You know? The brief cases loaded
with cash....You know.....THE BRIBES! UTU and the BLE are as worthless
as tits on a bull!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 May 2009

Awwww shucks, thanks a bunch UTU, youre the bestest ever.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 May 2009

And you thought your union doesn't care!

  
   
Easing the pain of furloughs 

By UTU Assistant President Arty Martin

As a union, we can’t make the economy better, but we always attempt to
make life better for our members caught up in the downturn.

Many younger members, having left non-railroad employment to take
railroad jobs, have now found themselves furloughed, and their hopes
for a better future for their families are in a shambles. 

At the International and general committee levels, we continue to work
to protect those affected members and their families, as well as all
our brothers and sisters.

As reported in the May issue of the UTU News, we are assisting our
members in preserving health-care benefits during this economic
downturn.

On Delbert Strunk’s Norfolk Southern general committee (GO 687), Strunk
convinced NS to suspend a contract clause requiring newly hired
furloughed employees to be terminated permanently following 365 days of
consecutive furlough. Thus, they will continue to accrue seniority for
time on furlough and not have to go through the rehiring process when
the economy improves, no matter how long the layoff.

In meetings with the National Carriers' Conference Committee, which
represents all major railroads, we have asked the carriers to explore
productive alternatives to layoffs. We emphasized that short-term
economic gains from layoffs could backfire as we approach the peak
vacation season and implementation in July of new hours of service
regulations, both of which will limit availability of qualified
operating crews.

One small solution is to find an innovative way to keep furloughed
employees on a partial work schedule, which continues their family
health-care benefits, Railroad Retirement credits and seniority
accumulation. That, we told carriers, is good business, as it lessens
the likelihood that younger employees will depart the railroad
permanently, triggering, eventually, an expensive search for new hires
who have to be trained from scratch.  

As an example, on Union Pacific, at numerous locations, we have
negotiated creation of continuous employment boards, which provide
younger employees, subject to layoff, with a minimum of eight days'
work per month. These continuous employment boards do not affect
operation of any existing extra board. 

With such boards in place, the younger employees retain full
health-care and retirement benefits, and continue to accrue seniority.
These workers are able to pursue part-time employment elsewhere, with
knowledge that their families are protected, and that when the
recession ends, they will return to full-time employment with the
railroad.

We would like to see this model extended to all carriers.

The UP recognized this as good business sense, for history shows that
laid-off employees frequently do not return to railroad employment,
creating a significant cost to the carrier of hiring and training
replacements when business levels return to pre-recession levels. 

Moreover, given that train and engine service employees work mostly
unsupervised, keeping the morale of the workforce at high levels is
crucial to providing world-class customer service and ensuring safe
operations.

Be assured that at the International and general committee levels, we
will continue efforts to convince carriers it is good business to
provide workers with financial security, which translates to high
levels of morale, loyalty and job expertise.
 
May 11, 2009

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 May 2009

Why strike? Just call payroll and tell them to withhold your dues until
further notice...put the onus on the unions. It won't take them long
to get the message...no dues without representation!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 May 2009

collective bargaining means:
"You take what the fuck we give you, cause your unions have no balls
and deep pockets that we can afford to fill up."

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 May 2009

Our collective bargaining is null and void now. What's the difference?
These assholes don't adhere to our contract. COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
AGREEMENT?? WHAT'S THAT??????????????????????

Name: SafetySlowDown
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 May 2009

Why Strike?   That will not work.  CSX will be prepared to fire a few as
examples just like Ingram has done since he worked at the Southern.

Just SLOW Down and be SAFER    Duh!!!!

Follow the Rules.  It will get more attention.  Just will not be on
CNN

The unions do not have any balls to do shit.

Bought and paid for.

One train slows down so do others and more after that.

SLOW Down and be SAFER
SLOW Down and be SAFER
SLOW Down and be SAFER
SLOW Down and be SAFER
SLOW Down and be SAFER

Do Not be the next CSX Fatality or Injury. 

Old Heads will be taking the Lotto out of CSX with a Injury now.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 May 2009

All of you or the ONE of you that keeps posting strike strike strike,
have you contacted YOUR union leaders about striking? Or just wasting
energy typing the word over and over on this website??

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 May 2009

Well at least CSX is #1 for the lowest stock out of the class 1's

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 May 2009

What? This accident has nothing to do with the stock. If you look at UP,
NS, and BNSF all railroad stocks are down by 1 1/2%-4%. They all have
dropped significantly in the past two days.

Name: Smitty
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 May 2009

I agree. We need to call a safety strike.  Too many injuries and deaths
caused by CSX negligence and indifference. 

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Name: C.J. HODGES
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 May 2009

UNION MEMBERS: CONTACT YOUR UNION REPS AND UNION BOSSES! 

DEMAND a SAFTEY STRIKE -STOP INJURIES & DEATHS TO RAILROAD WORKERS!! 

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 May 2009

anyone look at the stocks since this accident? dropping fast 
 26.92  -1.08  (-3.86%)

Name: Old head Engr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 May 2009

RRJ..your exactly right!  This generation Y has about as much knowledge
about railroading as my 16 yr old grandson.

You and I have forgotten more about railroading than most of these kids
wil ever know.

I personally hope they lay off more of these kids, because it's a
pleasure not having to hold their hand and then they TRY to tell us
what too do.

HAVE A SAFE DAY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 May 2009

PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER      May 12, 2009
CSX Repairman Killed at Bucks Railroad Crossing
            A CSX repairman was killed when he was struck by a
tractor-trailer at a railroad crossing in Middletown Township, Bucks
County, yesterday afternoon, a company spokesman said.
The man, whose name was being withheld, was fixing a warning signal
when he was hit by the truck, the spokesman said.
            The driver was reportedly questioned by police, but no
further information was available last night.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 May 2009

I agree with you on that last post RRJ. 100%

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 May 2009

You can type in "strike" till your fingers bleed. It still isn't
going to happen unless the unions sanction it. That chance is slim to
none. The unions are taking the sides of the railroads on the Rail
Safety Act. The unions are still trying to work with the railroads to
prevent retrictions on the HOS that will take affect in July. The
unions can blame the rairoads all they want for the archaic attendance
policies and fatigue but their non-action allowed it. The unions have
sat by and turned their backs on their members by allowing harrassment
and punishment if they didn't capitule to being forced to work while
under fatigue. The unions have dismantled the quality of life issues
that people fought hard for in this country. Our industry has always
been different than the norm except for yard jobs there has never been
a 40 hour work week. Years ago we were allowed to take time off at our
discretion for family functions, sickness, family illnesses, or just
plain needing time off. Extra boards were suppose to cover those
vacancies. The unions let the railroads control the gaurenteed extra
boards which are purposely kept low so it pays little or no gaurentee.
I was always against part-time railroaders which there were a lot of
them years ago. We had farmers, school teachers ect...that worked two
days a month to maintain their retirement and benefits then worked full
time after the harvest was done or school was out for the summer. That
isn't case today most of us work fulltime but we still have
responsibilities that at times requires us to be off. I don't have a
problem getting rid of those that abuse it that's only a small
percentage. But how can the unions allow disipline charges if records
show a person worked 400+ days in a calender year. 

The unions have allowed an encouraged people to sign waivers on
disiplinary charges instead of representing them. The unions didn't
strike when CSX cut off the second remote operator, yard switchmen,
utilityman, yard engineer, changed road switcher assignments when it
was in violation of the CSX/BLET SSA, CSX continuosly doubled over yard
assignment for 4 hours calling it a make up job which the aggreement
states after two days it will become a permanent job. The unions have
done nothing except sat on the sidelines. It's not at the local level
but the fault of the general committees. 

The unions will do lip service for this latest tragidy. That's about
all that is going to happen.

Name: FUQCSX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 May 2009

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Name: SAM the RAILROAD MAN
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 May 2009

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Name: JAFO
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2009

Looks like C--- S----- _X----- Titanic is leaking and could use more
legal torpedoes to put in this shit hole. 


This place is leaking bad with more problems and lies will come out on
this corrupt corporation.   Wonder how the Chessie Mafia Godfather Ward
is feeling now.   Time too get rid of Ingram and Brownie.

Let it rip.    This outfit should be eligible for a RICO lawsuit.

Name: Ennis
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2009

I was saddened to hear about a fallen brother in Selkirk. I do not know
the details of this tragic accident. My sympathy goes to his family. I
do believe that CSX has put men in harms way in order to save a few
dollars. I cannot understand a 1 man remote job- IT IS UNSAFE! I cannot
understand a yard job with just an engineer and a foreman. All yard jobs
should have a switchman, and all remotes should have 2 men. Why did the
unions let them cut the jobs? I hate RCO jobs! I believe for safety
reasons that WE should DEMAND change! I call for a SAFETY STRIKE! I am
only one man/ one voice, but I realize that under these working
conditions, Each and every one of us is at risk every day we are out
here. One thing I have seen is a bunch of apathy in most workers here
at CSX. The Company is run like crap! A bunch of morons making stupid
decisions that affect our lives- LITERALLY! WE need to show solidarity
to effect change. Everyone here knew it was just a matter of time until
someone paid the ultimate sacrifice. Thank God that you are able to read
this today, because it could be you tomorrow. Again, I feel for this
man's family in their time of grief; my prayers are with them. If the
allegations are correct about the TM, then someone needs to take him
for a long walk. I hope the family sues for Billion$. I hope they
bankrupt this Company! SAFETY STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Steve Gordon
E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 May 2009

Dear All-

I am a lawyer that sues railroads. In our firms experience, only in
VERY rare circumstances, do the railroads ever try to be fair to an
injured employee. Ninety-nine percent of the time, the exact moment you
make a report of injury you become the "enemy". It does not matter
that you have given all you have to give for the railroad. CSX is, by
far, the worst of the worst. They will convince people to lie about
their injury after persuading them not to make a report. They will
actually fly head honchos in from Jacksonville to do this. They know
the person got hurt at work but they will just stand their and watch
the person make a false statement after hours of intimidation. We like
suing railroads and we like getting Managers under oath. Their evil
ways do not stop with just injuries. They will do the same to a widow
and try and quick settle with them.

Sincerely,

Lie Hunter

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 May 2009

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 May 2009

C&O Joe

It wasn't a wise move for the UTU to sell off the last brakemen in
exchange for forcing anyone hired after 1994 to engine service.XXX
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Historic union sell out's that began in the early 1960's. One selling
out the other. Boy have the RR supported and benefited from this stuff.
Everything that the forebearers gained was pissed away. It took 50
years to do it real good, as the fat cat's keep on living off those
few fish that are left. When the Fireman left it was $1.50 per hundred
or standard day to run with out a fireman. Now it is $200.00 per day to
run with out and Engineer.

The unions all of them are miserable, but keep on paying, they need you
and you have no alternative?????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 May 2009

DuPont, CSX Settle One Rate Dispute
John D. Boyd | May 12, 2009 1:33PM GMT 
The Journal of Commerce Online - News Story 
Class I Railroads| Rail Shippers| Regulation| Rail + Intermodal| United
States
Past rate case still in process, but STB touts mediation success 
CSX Transportation and a major chemical shipper that has led the charge
against rail rate increases, E.I. DuPont de Nemours, settled one of
their disputes through mediation by the Surface Transportation Board.

The STB said it dismissed a November 2008 rate complaint at DuPont’s
request, in a case that covered 38 commodities hauled between 99 origin
and destination pairs. STB Acting Chairman Francis P. Mulvey said "this
is the first large rate case mediated to settlement under the board's
auspices,

A separate case, in which the STB last June ordered CSX to pay up to $3
million to DuPont in reparations or rate relief over how it charged the
shipper in three related filings, is still going through a final
adjustment process over a flaw in a formula the agency used in its
calculations.

With the adversaries agreeing to settle the November complaint, Mulvey
said “this mediation demonstrates that active board staff involvement
at the early stages of the case process can help narrow or, as here,
completely resolve, disputed issues.”

He said the STB “will continue to promote mediation as an alternative
to formal and more expensive dispute resolution processes."

Contact John D. Boyd at jboyd@joc.com .

Name: 
E-mail: mikewardisgay@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2009

Why is this incident not posted on the MAINFRAME under the network logs
like every other accident/fatality?

Name: fedup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2009

Criminal charges should be pursued by this family, against the
trainmaster as well as csx, accidental deaths are prosecutable if there
was neglect, and the trainmaster definitely showed neglect. The coverup
is underway.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 May 2009

C&O Joe

It wasn't a wise move for the UTU to sell off the last brakemen in
exchange for forcing anyone hired after 1994 to engine service. The BLE
didn't object they knew their numbers would grow. That's in the past.
When CSX last December decided to go to one man remotes there wasn't
any protest it just happened. What did the UTU actually agree to? The
email I recieved this morning confirmed it was a one man remote. The
remote operator was changing a knuckle. How can you change a knuckle
wearing the harness device? Word has come down he requested a carmen
that a trainmaster instructed him to change it. I'm sure CSX will find
some rule that was violated to protect themselves. I'm not familiar
with guidlines for the remote. Hopefully someone can explain the
procedure. Are you required to disable the remote? Are you allowed to
take off the harnness? How do you give yourself three step protection?
Did he secure the cars with hand brakes? How long was he on the
railroad? I know at my location most remotes are manned by people with
less than 2 years on the railroad. Every new hire is forced to become
remote qualified even those that were working road jobs. There are a
lot of questions. This isn't the first fatality associated with the
remote. Maybe this time it will be out in the open and not swept under
the rug.

Name: cpsk
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 May 2009

Where are you getting two members on a job from. In Selkirk, almost all
the RCO's are one man jobs.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 May 2009

RRJ,

   You'll never read a foul word about the RCO on UTU.org because the
UTU (on the international level anyway) loves the RCO. They think it's
great because it insures 2 members of their craft on the job, and an
extra 46 minutes pay. They feel it is job protection for the Conductor
craft which will help ensure the UTU will live on long after the the
protected Conductors are gone. We who are forced to live with the
practical implications of the RCO hate the god damned thing and have to
deal with the conseqences of running it like derailments and the
discpline as a result there of, as well as the injuries and death it
seems to bring. The international will put anything it takes on the
chopping block to preserve the RCO, rest assured of that. The UTU is in
survival mode because they're affraid of the consequences of the shady
deals of yesterday like mandatory promotion. I believe it was
Presidential Emergency Board 219 that gave the BLE exclusive bargaining
rights for the Engineer craft meaning that by the UTU agreeing to
mandatory promotion, they had likely sealed their fate because once
they eliminate Conductors the UTU will have little purpose. Sure, there
will always be ground service employees in some form, but the UTU will
most likely not have enough members to sustain themselves and they
certainly won't be able to sustain themselves at anywhere near the
level they are accustomed to. In the end it will be little more than a
case of the UTU reaping what they've sewn.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 May 2009

Try this link:

http://definitions.uslegal.com/d/depraved-indifference/

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 May 2009

Gentlemen and Ladies:

It's amazing how a death brings all the Suckers out.

Boys and girls...you could be next...better speak up...or else!

Read the contract...understand it...ask questions...get the cellphones
out of your ear...and understand this, you have no obligation to do
anything you consider unsafe...CSX safety rules clearly state that if
YOU think you need help ask for it.

The Trainmaster that ordered him to do the work without help is 100%
guilty of DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE:

    http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/train-1263206-preparing-    
information.html
 
The Unions (UTU & BLEt) are just as guilty as the carrier is.

It's going to take a class action law suit by the contract employees,
against the unions to get them to act against the carriers, Until that
happens nothing will change!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 May 2009

UTU vs BLE, Oldhead vs "Y" Gen.....divided we fall yadda yadda. so
until this mentality is gone, we get what CSX wants I reckon.
As for CSX covering things up, if you see it speak up...call the FRA,
worried it might put a target on your back? Newsflash we all have
targets on our backs right now with the management we are dealing with
on the CSX right now.
If what was posted earlier about this employee asking for help and
being instructed to do it alone, I hope everybody who heard it over the
radio or whatever give a statement to the press. 
This is about a person dying, not who gave away the jobs and all that
crap. Neither union insisted that he change a knuckle himself, the
fucked up management did that....point blank.Its time their asses are
held responsible for their ignorance and arrogance.
My condolences to the family of Jerod Boehlke, I hope that everyone who
is at fault in this is held accountable.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 May 2009

It might not mean anything to you. The UTU website which I frequent
occasionally to read articles has never mentioned anything about remote
accidents including injuries and deaths. The BLET on the other hand has
kept a record. The implementation of new technology is a reality to
recklessly allow such technology to be implemented without safeguards
or federal regulations is careless if not criminal. To this date
remotes are only governed by ferderal guidelines not regulation. Which
allows the carriers to utilize it in any way they deem fit including
such reckless behavior like a measily two weeks of training or cutting
man power. We've endured remotes for at least 3 years at my location.
We've seen CSX cover up everything from run thru switches,
derailments, side swipes, to injuries. It might not mean anything to
you, but I'm sure it does to the family of this person who was killed.
To know the union that's suppose to protect it's members was involved
in creating a dangerous enviroment.

Name: Why bother? Nobody listens.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 May 2009

Yup, Generation "Y" at its best. They know everything:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/05/11/boston.trolley.crash/index.html

Investigator: Texting driver should have seen stopped trolley

BOSTON, Massachusetts (CNN) -- The operator of a trolley that
rear-ended another trolley should have been able to see the other
vehicle was stopped 480 feet ahead, a federal investigator said
Monday.

Passengers walk past firefighters at a Green Line station in Boston
after the trolley collision Friday evening.

 The trolley driver has told investigators he was text messaging during
Friday night's collision, which injured 20 people.

The Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority, which previously had
banned operators from using cell phones and other portable devices, now
has told employees to leave the devices at home while on duty, National
Transportation Safety Board member Debbie Hersman said Monday.

Hersman also noted investigators have determined that the operator may
have missed some crucial indications of a stopped trolley ahead on the
tracks.  Watch new transit rule on cell phones »

"There were several signals -- two green signals, a yellow signal and
a red signal -- coming out of the station, and the point of collision
occurred 80 feet past that red signal," Hersman said. "We did a
site-distance test, and we know that the operator had the ability to
see the trolley stopped in front of him 480 feet in advance of the
collision."

Boston officials said over the weekend that the trolley operator was
using his cell phone. Numerous media outlets, including CNN's Boston
affiliates, have identified the driver as 24-year-old Aiden Quinn.

"The operator of the striking train was interviewed at the hospital by
two detectives," said MBTA general manager Daniel Grabauskas. "He
admitted that he was texting at the time of the accident."

Don't Miss
Official: Trolley driver was texting at time of crash 
The operator told detectives that, when he looked up, "it was too late
as he applied the brake and the train struck the other trolley,"
Grabauskas said.

He described himself as "outraged."

"We have reinforced for a number of years that the use of cell phones
or any other kinds of electronic devices while operating a train or a
bus is absolutely prohibited," Grabauskas said.

Though the investigation is ongoing, he said, the two-year employee
will be fired if his version of events is confirmed.

None of the injuries was considered life-threatening, the MBTA said.

The collision happened at 7:18 p.m. ET Friday as the Green Line trains
were traveling between the Park Street and Government Center stations
in downtown Boston.

Both trains were traveling westbound when one train rear-ended the
second, an MBTA official said.

A train operator also was text messaging last year in a California
train crash that killed 25 people.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 May 2009

My post had nothing to do with "who" sold off the jobs, a fellow
employee was killed and I feel it should have been posted on both
sites. UTU vs BLE crap is old and tired, same ol shit equals same ol
treatment from the carriers

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 May 2009

A short article about the death of a CSX worker is posted on the BLET
website. Why would the UTU mention it? They were the key player in
implamenting remotes. It has come around to bite the UTU in the arse
when CSX decided to go with one man remotes. How many more jobs will
the UTU sell off? In the past 24 years they sold out the two brakemen
on road trains, the switchmen jobs in the yard, the locomotive firemen,
the locomotive engineers in the yard, and now a remote operator. The
only thing progressive about the UTU is the high rate of progression on
eliminating jobs.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 May 2009

Why isnt the story about the fallen brother posted on the UTU website?
It seems to me that if they are to be representing trainman that this
tragedy should have been the top story of the day. They should be
screaming foul right now.

Again we ask, what use is paying dues?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 May 2009

NoMo

What's wrong with you? You can't tell the truth on this site. Most
don't believe it they like blaming those who are still marked up. Even
though we know it's a false accusation I'm getting use to having
power. The power to keep people furloughed. I never knew I could just
call CMC anytime I want and cut the boards. I'll try it when I get
back from vacation. If it works out I'll go for making all my trips
between monday - thursday by cutting the board then call CMC on friday
to increase it on weekends so I can have time at home. Amazing you
learn something new everyday. 

As for your suggestion of getting placed on a call board. Most on here
think that by not accepting work while furloughed it will force CSX to
recall people. We know it doesn't work that way. CSX will only recall
people when there good and ready. If CSX can move freight with half the
crews they will try. CSX doesn't care. People can monitor the board all
they want. There isn't anyone to complain to the union has no control
over gaurenteed extra boards. The union can make sure the averages on
freight pools are correct. Usually the numbers are so high to add it
doesn't matter. Like a few have stated on here about the new HOS per
month how it will affect the earning power of those still working. I
welcome it. I personally like time off. Right now the only time off I
get is claiming 10 hours undisturbed rest at home. I spend more time
away from home in the lodging. Everything over the past 5-6 years has
gone backwards. 

I hope in July it does get some people back to work. I just feel
between the railroads and the unions it isn't going to happen without
a few injunctions. Both are against restricting the number of hours a
person can work per month.

Name: CSX Blow
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 May 2009

How was he killed? Did a car strike him or something?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 May 2009

A UTU member was fatally injured tonight on a one man remote control
assignment which was an East End puller in Selkirk, NY.  I have been
advised he was ordered to change a knuckle by himself after requesting
assistance from the car department.  The unofficial report is he twice
requested assistance from the car department as was ordered both times
by the trainmaster in charge he would be required to change the knuckle
without the assistance of the car department

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 May 2009

Hey Con 1-10:

CMC isn't going to increase the boards anytime soon...and if I were
you I wouldn't count on being recalled in the near future(3 months
+).

Call CMC and have your name put on the call list. You might be able to
pick-up a couple of turns a week. You might make enough to keep
you insurance in force and you only need one turn a month for the month
to count towards your RR retirement.

Join the crowd!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 May 2009

The suck's are at it again at Lafayette, IN.  CMC cuts the Eng. board
and cut back Eng.'s are taking calls for work (Y101 Sunday Day). Maybe
if these sucks would'nt answer the phone maybe CMC would increse the
boards and maybe I would get called back from furlough status, R.R.
unemployment does'nt pay for a shit.  Just remember while you're out
there bitching your fellow employees, I'm sitting at home collecting
unemployment, trying to support my family and pay the bills.   Don't
forget you big company sucks, we are watching. Hopefully, you'll get
deployed to Iraq again very soon.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 May 2009

Hey Loco 30+:

Must be some of that new math...My question might be how many miles can
the railroads move 15,000 tons of freight on a gallon of fuel?

It has been some time now, maybe 15 years since diesel fuel was
"cleaned up", by Federal mandate, reducing sulfur emissions. 

The railroads are tooting their own horns for public relations
purposes. They're only trying to get ahead of the bell curve in
preparation for the next round of emissions reduction regulations.

With the railroads, being green means having an excuse to charge
shippers more green $$$.

I wonder what their next line of good corporate citizenship will be?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 May 2009

* Moving freight by rail helps the environment, as rail transport is
three times more fuel-efficient than moving freight on the highway.
* Trains can move a ton of freight more than 436 miles on a single
gallon of fuel, greatly reducing greenhouse gas emissions. 
* In an on-going effort to reduce fuel consumption and air pollutant
emissions, CSXT has invested more than $1 billion in technology to
upgrade its locomotive fleet.
* Since 1980, the company has improved its fuel efficiency by
approximately 80 percent.
* CSXT was the first railroad to join the EPA Climate Leaders Program,
pledging to publicly report its greenhouse gas emissions and establish
a voluntary goal for emissions reduction.

Anyone know how the math was done on some of these stats.? My numbers
show a different story. HMMMMMM. False advertising?
Everyone is green today or at least claims to be. Many haven't changed
a thing, but are tooting their horn how green they are.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 May 2009

BUFFALO, N.Y. — In a letter to the Active Chairman of the Surface
Transportation Board (STB), Congressman Brian Higgins (NY-27) is asking
the national agency to reopen the related docket since layoffs at
Buffalo’s Frontier Yard are in violation of the agreement which allowed
CSX and Norfolk Southern to acquire Conrail’s assets.

“As a condition of the merger agreement, CSX pledged to invest
substantially in facilities and jobs in the Buffalo region however with
the news this week of 132 layoffs and possibly more on the way that
clearly isn’t happening,” said Congressman Higgins. “CSX has an ethical
and contractual obligation to keep these jobs in Buffalo and we want to
see them hold up their end of the bargain.”

On July 20, 1998, the Surface Transportation Board (STB) issued a
decision (FD-33388) which allowed CSX and Norfolk Southern to acquire
Conrail’s assets. In the context of the 1998 decision, the board
indicated that it would hold CSX to its commitments to Buffalo in this
matter:

“We will hold CSX to all of its representations related to the Buffalo
area, most notably those regarding its plans for investment in new
connections and upgraded facilities in the Buffalo area, including: (1)
upgrading Conrail's existing computer technology and fueling facilities
at Buffalo; (2) maintaining or increasing current employment levels in
the Buffalo area… and (5) investing substantial funds in network
improvements to reduce shipping time and enhance service reliability
for rail shippers in the Greater Buffalo area[1],” said the Surface
Transportation Board at the time.

The STB is a regulatory agency created by Congress in 1995. The
independent agency has jurisdiction over railroad rate and service
issues and rail restructuring transactions as well as other
transportation issues

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 May 2009

Must be related to Buford T.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 May 2009

Hey RRJ:

The man, Jim Justice, that sold the mines to the Russians for $436
million just bought the Greenbrier resort from CSX for $20 million!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 May 2009

C&O Joe

That was pretty hilarious. Anytime Goober agrees with someone you know
it was an ignorant post. The reality is we didn't complain about
furloughs. We knew there wasn't a damn thing we could do except wait
it out. Besides who was there to complain to? We didn't have venues
like websites to vent back then we still had rotary dial telephones and
a black and white screen TV wasn't unusual. I'm sure if we had all the
avenues to vent that are available today we would of used them. It still
doesn't change the fact most who complain on here blame the wrong
people oldheads. The only one who does the furloughing is CSX. I've
never disagreed that CSX always cuts down to the bare bone those left
working will continuosly get out on their rest. It's been that way as
long as I can remember. CSX feels they can get away with it. 

As for not caring about people furloughed. That definitely isn't
correct. There isn't anything that can be done about it except those
who are furloughed will wait it out or move on. Some on here take it to
a different level by blaming the wrong people. With ignorant assinine
comments like my favorite "I wish you oldheads would die". That's
when it becomes a matter of being insulted and they deserve to be made
fun of in a similiar manner. 

Did you read the article that 4 W.Va mines were bought by a Russian
company? For exporting coal for steel production. Just like i tried to
explain to you the downturn of coal production has been greatly affect
by export coal not domestic. I guess the Russians got smart why not own
the cow instead of just buying the milk.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 May 2009

The suck's are at it again at Lafayette, IN.  CMC cuts the Eng. board
and cut back Eng.'s are taking calls for work (Y301 Friday night). 
Maybe if these sucks would'nt answer the phone maybe CMC would increse
the boards and maybe I would get called back from furlough status, R.R.
unemployment does'nt pay for a shit. But i guess if you're pursuing a
job as a CSX  manager it looks good on your resume to be a ass kisser.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2009

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 May 2009

You little punks need to shape up! You concerns are falling on deaf
ears. These old heads on here sprang from the womb with a lantern in
their hand, needless to say they were expert railroaders the day they
were placed on the roster. When the old bastards before them gave them
the shaft or talked to them like scum they considered themselves
fortunate for the opprotunity. They thought being furloughed was a
good
experiance and they were thankful for the life experiance in poverty
and
resiliance. Most of all they never ever complained! Give me a break.
there's no one on gods green earth that spends more time complaining
than an old head railroader. These guys come on here to blow off steam
and all they get is an ear full of standard don't give a damn
bullshit
from every 30 year man on the site. If times were so tough back then
I'd think you guys would be more understanding. Cut em a break.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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C&O pretty nice post, just needs a little adjusting. we all stumbled
into a recruiter that hired us. They were not picky just needed a warm
body. I was a warm body that was hired as a fireman. Cubbed a few trips
and went to work sitting on the left side, sleeping most of the time.
The brakeman and engineer took care of keeping each other awake, heck
they ignored me, they had their own agenda to talk about.
 After getting whacked with arb 282 went to the ground. Good exercise.

Got cut off for 1 month and worked when I wanted, was number 2 on the
cutoff list. Loved that. Never cut off again. Worked when I wanted and
took as much time off as I wanted and could afford.

Really nice easy job that paid well with horrible hours. However If I
needed cash I could get straight and make it quick. I took a look
around and saw myself in the right seat, or at that time on the
caboose. No thanks life can and will be better than this.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2009

I found this link:

              http://www.freightrailworks.org/index.html

On this site:
   
              http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/ 

A slick ad directed at a very small group by the AAR, the rail industry
lobby. If labor wants to be heard, the unions better get
with it!

Name: Shafted agian
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 May 2009

I have read some accusations of people signing off locomotives that need
to be shopped, using torches to repair a car,doing clerks work etc. 

I know there is often some dissention amongst the crafts but at a time
like this we need to watch out for each other too. If we need a clerk
call a clerk. If the engine needs fixing , send it to the shop.Same
with railcars and MOW stuff. Let the other crafts know time ,place and
any other info about crossing crafts. To those that do it, you are
taking away someone elses job and someday it will be yours as well. We
have valid contracts in place. BOTH Parties are obligated to honor
them.
 
Think of it like your siblings, yeah we fight amonst ourselves but no
one else had better lay a hand on them. We need to be more united and
stand up for each other. If we start doing each others work, the union
contract becomes worthless. Why is the company going to abide if the
job is getting done by one person.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 May 2009

You little punks need to shape up! You concerns are falling on deaf
ears. These old heads on here sprang from the womb with a lantern in
their hand, needless to say they were expert railroaders the day they
were placed on the roster. When the old bastards before them gave them
the shaft or talked to them like scum they considered themselves
fortunate for the opprotunity. They thought being furloughed was a good
experiance and they were thankful for the life experiance in poverty and
resiliance. Most of all they never ever complained! Give me a break.
there's no one on gods green earth that spends more time complaining
than an old head railroader. These guys come on here to blow off steam
and all they get is an ear full of standard don't give a damn bullshit
from every 30 year man on the site. If times were so tough back then
I'd think you guys would be more understanding. Cut em a break.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 May 2009

"Y" me 1-10

Railroad called it's time to make money. People like you are to easy
to mess with it doesn't take much to push your buttons. You read what
you want an ignore the truth that makes you impossible to teach.
You're no different than 90% of the new hires at my location. The
other 10% who are willing to learn the ropes prosper.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 May 2009

"Y" me 1-10

I hope a lot of people do get called back. Furloughs still have nothing
to do with oldheads. The fact is Junior oldheads are a minority. If
things change at union meetings like pool averages it's not anyones
fault but those who didn't attend. You're like a broken record
blaming others and crying over something that most likely was your own
fault by being complacent. If that big word confuses you "complacent"
it means your like sheep grazing in a field to dumb to do anything like
run away or put up a fight to ignorant to know you'll end up at the
slaughterhouse. Then when it happens you want to blame everyone else.
When the reality is you probably didn't take 3 hours of your time to
attend a union meeting which could of stopped whatever your complaining
about. Let me clue you in nothing can be changed at just one union
meeting there is a procedure. The first meeting is step one: a proposal
is made for change then someone seconds the motion it's added to the
agenda for the next meeting. The next month comes step two: voting on
the proposal. That's two months Junior no one to blame but yourself. 

I go to at least 4-6 union meetings a year without losing work.
Everyone can do the same. The truth is just a handful bother to take
the time. The one thing a UTU local/BLET division can do is make
changes locally. The fact is it only takes 6 people to make change
it's called a quarem. Get involved quit sitting on the sideline.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 May 2009

No your wrong you old fucks are the reason we get fourloughed or at
least 50% of the cause because your always running your mouth about
cutting boards and to many people here to many people there. You will
be affected by the hos and i will not be fourloughed anymore because
your ass will not b working everyday you will be making your basic day
your overtime is gone say good bye old fuck and as for your retirement
i would about say you need to go ahead and take it or if not your just
helping me so work all you can old fuck.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 May 2009

"Y" me 1-10

Just the response I expected. 

Junior, No one working in T&E is responsible for creating furloughs.
That one is strictly a CSX upper management decision. 

The new HOS won't affect me. I'll still be on the highest paying job.
While you if you're not furloughed will be making just a basic day. The
restrictive hours per month will hurt those with big mortgages, big
monthly car pmts, children still at home (which I'm sure still
includes you), their childrens college funds, the increased cost of
basic necessities ect....on the other hand I'am wise enough that I
don't have credit cards, I own the titles to all three of my vehicles,
my home was purchased in 1986 it's nearly paid off with a minut
mortgage pmt ect...It'll still allow me to put 17% in my 401K plus
savings into two different accounts. I've never been a hoghead. I've
never tried to live beyond my means. 

So, I'll expect more unintelligent insults from you. Like I stated
before you're acting like a snot nosed little kid.

Name: Why bother? Nobody listens.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 May 2009

RRJ 30+: well-put on the posts. 

I am a Gen-Xer who cannot fathom the amount of entitlement these new
hires have. They know everything! 

With the advent of remotes, a lot of them walked onto the job being
able to hold fairly regular assignments, knowing nothing about working
for years on the extraboard or on the road like the majority of us. The
amount of apathy they have for their jobs is overwhelming to the point
where they walk around with cell phones surgically attached to their
ears, tee-hee-heeing and ha-ha-ing over stupid text messages while
hanging off equipment. These are the same guys who cut corners, break
rules, and "help" the company out. Like crossing crafts. Doing
clerk’s work, or using a cutting torch on a car and doing the work of a
car-knocker in the presence of the FRA, or "making it good" by signing
off on locomotive calendar day inspections for engines that should be
shopped. The only thing they are doing is "helping" themselves and
others out of a job as the company continues eliminating jobs. They
make the carrier's job easier. Maybe they're running for the quit.
Who knows. They know everything. Who cares! They just laugh.

Don't forget to remind them about the astronomical cost of health
insurance every month that you will be hit with upon retirement. They
have short memories, tomorrow never comes, and they probably don't
care.

Gen-Y - "Y" me?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 May 2009

the company/ingram doesnt need to come down.. Bob Frulla just needs a
good kick in the larnyx bestowed upon him by a visitor to that kremlin
building in huntington west by god virginia.

Ingram would congratulate Frulla anyway.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 May 2009

Yeh right for now you do old fuck wait until the law kicks in in July
then youll be makeing what everybody else does I hope you fucking rot
you peice of shit your the reason everybodys fourloughed

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 May 2009

cond 1-10

Ditto. I could give a schidt whether you work or not. Furloughs don't
affect my peers and myself anymore. We stand for the highest paying
jobs left in the terminals. Not once did I mention anything about new
hires. But seeing you had to be rude I'll give you my honest
assessment of the current situation. I hope your mommy and daddy are
doing great I'm sure they'll be glad to get rid of your silly arse
out of their house once you reach maturity if that's possible. Your
response is typical of your generation. Which up until a few days ago I
didn't even know it has been named Generation "Y". Because of all the
crying over "Y" me? "Y" can't I hold the highest paying jobs like
them old phukers? "Y" does the mean old trainmaster pick on me? "Y"
can't I use my cell phone to text message on the train anymore? "Y"
can't I have every satuday-sunday off it's not fair them oldheads get
them all and sometimes they don't even use it? This list could go on.
It time for you to grow up be a man stop sniveling like a whiney snot
nosed kid. Damn this is fun. 

Have a nice day.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 May 2009

we have  a  division manager bthat is the closest thing to hitler you
can find bob frulla  loves to fire hard working men and women just to
show he thinks he is somebody you have employees that use the system
and get by with murder then the good employees  get in a little trouble
and they want to throw them to the wolves some body in the upper csx
standards should take a serious look at frulla and other company
officials in hinton wv that let certain employees get by with murder
because they like them frank lynch for example has taken 19 daily
vacation days and you only get 14 they dont care though because he has
always done it toni ingram should come on down to good ole wva and roll
some heads

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 May 2009

Hey Loc Eng 30+yrs i don't feel bad for you at all. Hell the rest of us
have to eat to.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 May 2009

Lloyd

There ya go a name just for you.  

The 50+ yr old railroader works more because it's one of the key
elements on determining how much their retirement will by their last 5
years. By then they've raised their children sent them to college
ect...it's time they have to start saving money. No one wants to
retire with just living retirement check to retirement check without
back up funds. 

My generation has been hit twice by down turns in the stock market 1999
& the present situation. Our investments and 401K's this time around
lost at least 40%. That's not a comfortable feeling we don't have
time to be aggressive and wait it out. I sold everything and bought CSX
stock recently. CSX will get the stock price back up quicker than any
mutual fund in a 401K. Then it's sell put it in the money market. Just
like Ward and the rest with their stock options they get to buy low sell
high. Only difference they do it in one day they buy at $23 a share and
sell at $60 a share making millions. First Ward must get the stock to a
certian price before he can excersize his stock options. I recall
reading the price is $61 a share. 

The 55/30 retirement was just a rumor. It was discussed on the BLET
website. It wasn't a bad rumor for every year under 60 it would of
been a 2% reduction. At age 55 a person with 360 months/30 years paid
into retirement they would of collected 90%. It might not seem like
much that would of been a reduction of $340 for a single person and
$440 for married a month. Retirees have to pay for health coverage that
10% reduction would hurt unless their spouse had better coverage at
their work. 

I'll explain it one more time. It's no ones business how much I post.
I don't work a yard job after 32 years I can't hold one thank's to
remotes and CSX downsizing. I work the road which I have for 95% of my
carreer. I check this site only if I'm home in the mornings before I
read the news with my morning coffee and cigar or when I check my
statis for work. 

It's like something an old conductor I knew along time ago once told
me about himself "people think I'm serious when I'm being sarcastic
and they think I'm being sarcastic when I'm being serious". For
myself that's for ya'll to figure out.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 May 2009

Anyone notice there are no words of encouragement or planning on either
of the union websites......just pissing money away every month on dues

Name: CSX Blow
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 May 2009

To CSX Customer: Heres a video to the news story about CSX`s greed right
from the horse`s mouth. This guy is a real putz. He looks like Elmer
Fudd and this is who we have for a leader to run this fortune 500
company. Its no supprise they are hurtning with leadership like this.
Even in this tough economy there is so much potential on this railroad
and profits to be made.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/search-results/m/22000209/csx-creates-clean-diesel-engine-train.htm#q=OR+%22Fuel+Efficiency%22+OR+%22Corporate+Average+Fuel+Efficiency%22

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 May 2009

Pensacola is just the first.  There will be more. 

Here comes the real Hackin and Slashin.  

Dont worry though, the Unions will save us.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 May 2009

I said don't get your panties in a wad because I knew without reading
that second reply a lot of old heads would be mad because I did not
clarify that statement.  
If you think that I believe most men out here over 55 that are still
working wouldn't retire if they could you have got me all wrong.  I
think it would be great for all sides even if it meant taking a little
bit out of your monthly check (which a lot of 30 plus men would never
want).  But when you really break it down, if you could spend 5 extra
years of your life with a retirement check that was a little less
instead of working 5 more with a little extra..wouldn't the majority
take the offer?  It wouldn't be a hard one for me to make but the
older generation is different.  Work comes first...then family for a
lot of men in their 50's and early 60's.  

For the fuck stick that called me a dumbass for mistakenly responding
on 2 sections, eat a dick buddy.  You 30 plus posters can't even get a
name for yourself so I hardly have a clue of who I'm even responding
too.  Z has came out, htl, I think nomo is 30 plus, why don't you
single yourself out too puss?  You know who I am so please identify
yourself as other than 30 plus because for all I know you could be one
of 10 who post on here with that title. 
You are probably the same arrogant bastard who replies to everything
anyone says that you disagree with aren't ya?  Obviously either you
don't work right now, or have a cush yard job that you work 4 hours a
day and get paid 8 for.  Its obvious you have a lot more time than
anyone else does because you choose to make a smartass comment to every
post you disagree with.  It's alright though, you have your opinion and
I've got mine.  We are living in two different generations.  Bottom
line is this company still sucks and we are all still getting fucked by
them whenever they see fit.  You guys all have a wonderful night and
since its national prayer day Im sending out one for all the ones who
are on the street right now. God Bless

Name: Rube
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 May 2009

CSX BLOWS,
          Well, you didn't miss much. The Jax Division manager came
down and said what we already knew. Every rumor the last 2 years has
come true. They killed Pensacola! All 600 series trains are gone.
Freight pools-Gone! They cut off the night yard job, then called me 4
hours later off the furlough board to work an extra yard job.
IDIOTS!!!! I told the caller I caught a bad case of swine flu at the
"town hall meeting." Bottom line- P'cola will be safe if you have 30
years- otherwise; you might wanna call U-HAUL. CSX SUCKS!

Name: CSX Librarian
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 May 2009

Please do not GOOGLE CSX Trainmaster Danny Spencer.  The search might
flood your computer.  I save every post and store these for future
use.

The 5th Best Run Class One Railroad in the USA.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2009

Damn...if only we could figure out how to harness all the hot air
coming from 500 Water St. in Jacksonville we would never need fossil
fuels again!

What a bunch of gas bags!

Name: avejoe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2009

hey there shockey there is nothing wrong with hairy women maybe black
women but not hairy  lol

fuck csx fuck the econmy and fuck all those working for csx makin the
big bucks i see you drive by and flip you off 
sorry in advance for this lol

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2009

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2009

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

 
 
Best post on this site in YEARS, scroll back and read it a few more
times!

Name: 
E-mail: FUCK WARD
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 May 2009

C&O Joe:

CSX Transportation Supports Wind Power Industry, CSXT Representatives
attend WINDPOWER 2009 
Released: May 07, 2009

Jacksonville, Fla. - May 6, 2009 - CSX Transportation (CSXT)
representatives are attending WINDPOWER 2009 Conference and Exhibition,
the world's largest annual wind conference and exhibition, to reinforce
the company's service to the wind power industry. CSXT supports the
wind power industry by providing a reliable and fuel-efficient mode of
transporting turbine equipment to assembly and operating locations.

"CSXT is committed to being the premier railroad for wind energy
equipment," said Shayne Martin, director, emerging markets for CSXT.
"As new markets such as the East Coast offshore wind power market come
on line, rail transport will continue to be critical to moving large
turbine modules and equipment."

Due to the massive size of wind turbine components, rail is the
preferred mode of transportation. Rail transport offers the most
reliable option, while also reducing fuel consumption and carbon
emissions.

Last month, CSXT received G.E.'s "Customer Centricity" award at the
annual G.E. Energy Carrier Conference in Greenville, South Carolina.
CSXT was chosen for the top award in part for its direct assistance in
moving wind energy components to and from G.E.'s Pensacola facility.

"Just as we are committed to environmental sustainability in our every
day operations, CSXT is proud to support the wind power industry's role
in developing clean energy sources," added Martin.

Wind power is an environmentally-friendly alternative energy option.
CSXT is pleased to support this industry and has a long-standing
commitment to air quality and clean operations. CSXT's environmental
stewardship extends across all of its operations. There are several
ways CSXT is making a difference for the environment: 
-- Moving freight by rail helps the environment, as rail transport is
three times more fuel-efficient than moving freight on the highway. 
-- Trains can move a ton of freight more than 436 miles on a single
gallon of fuel, greatly reducing greenhouse gas emissions. 
--In an on-going effort to reduce fuel consumption and air pollutant
emissions, CSXT has invested more than $1 billion in technology to
upgrade its locomotive fleet.
-- Since 1980, the company has improved its fuel efficiency by
approximately 80 percent. 
-- CSXT was the first railroad to join the EPA Climate Leaders Program,
pledging to publicly report its greenhouse gas emissions and establish a
voluntary goal for emissions reduction. 

WINDPOWER 2009 Conference and Exhibition is May 4th - 7th, 2009, at
McCormick Place Convention Center in Chicago, Illinois. More
information about the largest annual wind conference and exhibition in
the world is available at www.windpowerexpo.org/.

CSX Transportation Inc. is a principal operating company of CSX
Corporation. CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is one of
the leading transportation companies, providing rail, intermodal and
rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network
spans 21,000 miles with service to 23 eastern states and the District of
Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river and lake ports. More
information about CSX Corporation and its subsidiaries is available at
the company's web site, www.csx.com.

Media Contact
Garrick Francis
1-877-835-5279
garrick_francis@csx.com

Name: Z
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 May 2009

Name: Lloyd 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 May 2009

One major correction, if they would let you guys retire at 55 who had
30 plus years.  I have no idea why this hasn't happened because it
would definitely help.  Now don't get your panties too wadded up old
heads.



Why would I want to wad up my panties. If it was 55 I would have been
gone. In the earily 70's it went from 65 to 62. There was talk at this
time about getting it to 55. When it went from 62 to 60 there was talk
again of retirement going to 55 if your age and years of service
equaled a certain number. I wish it would go to 55. It would open up a
hell of a lot of jobs for fourloughed people and enable me to enjoy
life.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 May 2009

C&O Joe

Not once did I ever mention voting for Obama. You're just assuming it.
This conversion from coal to gas fired power plants has been going on
for years. We lost two power plants about 4 years ago it might not seem
like much it cost us about 8 trains per week. This was all under Bush
and the Repo control of congress. You have this misconception that all
ills will be cured overnight. The reality is this admistration has only
been in office around 3 1/2 months. Maybe your just a product of
generation "Y" not having the patience to wait things out. Which is
eveident by the railroad new hires who can't seem to understand why
they can't hold a preferred job.

Name: CSX Blow
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2009

What happened in the town hall meeting in Pensacola? More lies?

I was`nt able to make it so someone please fill us in.

Name: Justin Shockey
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 May 2009

Matt Sanders loves fat, black, hairy woman from what I hear when I went
to my investigation the other day.  Look out Predator!!!!  He is coming
for you!!!hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahha  And winning an arguement
from a CSX employee in Baltimore (LET ALONE IF IT IS ON LINE OR NOT) is
not hard.  It is LIKE FIGHTING IN THE SPECIAL
OLYMPICS!!!hahahahahahhahahahahaha  Just working there is a tribute to
the special Olympics!!!hahahahahahah  Dumbass waterheads!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 May 2009

Hey Other <1:

Coal will be a large part of the mix for years to come on the RR.

Lets look at wind for example...the wind blows in places where the
utilities have no transmission lines. The velocity also varies by time
of day and season. The utilities have to have a consent supply of power
to run thier grids. Wind power is a good supplenental source, however it
will take many years to develope the infrastructure necessary to make
wind a reliable resource.

Until then, coal will remain king!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 May 2009

C&O Joe has coaldust in his eyes.  Coal is on the way out. Once they
find a cheap replacment technology with solor, hydrogen, methanoyl, or
wind........coal is toast. 

The railroads are shit without coal.  They invented coal.  

Now, any smart RR would be looking down that inevitable road.  Oxymoron
= Smart Railroad. LOL.

The unions and the railroads.  Toast.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 May 2009

Hey Nobody:

Spencer is a real piece of shit. He got a real beat-down after he moved
to B'ham...he was lucky!

Someone at CSX is protecting him...Father or Uncle in a high position.
He had the same problems when he was up North, Indiana I think...hence
the transfer to Montgomery then B'ham. That's how CSX deals with fuck
ups with family in Jacksonville.

Write Ward a letter and tell him you're taking your business
elsewhere...the only thing CXS understands is money, so let your money
talk for you. Besides, you'll get better service with a drayage line!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2009

Just A Dude:
Well they are about to raise their shipping rates again, and Michael
Ward was quoted as saying "i would rather lose customers than lower
shipping rates in most cases"
so welcome to CSX where the Customer Comes First ;)

Name: Just a dude
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 07 May 2009

Okay, so I did a little more reading on Mr. Dan Spencer of
Birmingham...according to this site he has fathered a child out of
wedlock with a conductors wife, had people fired for no reason, has had
multiple affairs on and off company property, recently took a physical
beat down for his indiscretions, was accused/convicted of solicting a
prostitute...and he is still employed by CSX?  Wow...CSX must be
desperate...or Mr. Spencer must have the deepest throat when in the
company of Mr. Ingram!

In today's litigious world, it's only a matter of time before someone
like Mr. Spencer costs CSX millions of dollars in a lawsuit.  As a soon
to be former customer of CSX, I don't want to pay the rates I do for
freight plus the cost of any future lawsuits Mr. Spencer will
ineveitably cost your company.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2009

Your having a serious reading comprehension meltdown here. I never said
the assult on coal was only affecting West Virginia. Coal is nearly
half of CSX revenue so saying that it affects us all is simply stating
the obvious. The only time I recall mentioning WV at was talking about
the mining permits they'd froze here. Had I have known how many they
froze in any of the other coal states I would have certainly included
that also because it further proves my point. You brought up a good
point about poverty and governent assistance programs in WV. The Dems
have had enjoyed a majority here since I belive around 1950. As a
result we are 2nd in the nation in the percentage of our income we pay
in taxes. We lead the nation in welfare and disability recipiants per
capita. We rank 47th I believe in avg. income per family. Wal-Mart is
our #1 employer and we lead the nation in the # of state employees per
capita. Despite the extreamly high taxes and the fortune in coal
severance tax revenue we have nothing to show for it. All we have to
show for 60 years of Democratic control and being taxed into the poor
house is a poor ass state full of fat ass welfare cases and able bodied
disabled people and the only jobs that are worth having are directly
tied to coal because our "pro labor" democratic governent taxed and
tree hugged 90% of our chemical industry away and now Obama wants to
tax coal away also so we in WV are pretty much out of options. Thanks
to our left wing nut job judges who believe your insurance company owes
anyone involved in a minor fender bender a million plus, car insurance
is about half price accross the river in Ohio. When Clinton lobbied
NAFTA into law we watched what little manufacturing industry we had
head for Mexico with the exception of Toyota who's only here because
they got a 25 year tax break after which they'll hit the trail like
Volkswagon and the others did. Still wonder why I'm a Republican? You
can look this shit up if you don't believe it. Barack Obama stated
plain and clear during his campaign that nobody would be able to afford
to open a coal fired power plant because the taxes and permits would be
to high. He lied his whole campaign about wanting to open clean coal
refineries and then after he got elected he did a 180 and hasn't
mentioned it since. He estimated clean coal refineries would generate
500,000 jobs, yet not one penny of the job creation portion of his 800
billion dollar stimulus bill that my childrens great great
grandchildren will be paying for was spent on clean coal because he
coincidentaly found out 2 weeks after the election that there is no
such thing as clean coal, but he did set aside a few billion to finance
the power plants conversion to natural gas. His #2 priority once in
office was passing his cap and trade bill which is the first step in
taxing the coal industry out of buisness and by the admission of the
DEM spokeswoman on TV yesterday would cost the coal and associated
industries (railroads, trucking, electric, etc.) an estimated 3,000,000
jobs over the next 5 years which is why it lost a lot of key DEM
support. Even in the current economy Obama was pushing a bill to wipe
out 3 million upper middle class jobs. What will this moron have to say
to make it any clearer that he hates coal and wants to eliminate it and
the need for every job that goes with it? This is not hear say or
Republican propaganda. This is shit that came right out of mouths of
the DNC! I can't comprehend why no matter what this guy says the
people who depend on the very thing he wants to eliminate to support
their families continue to support him! You are a prime example of how
people stupid themselves out of existance. Even an old dog knows not to
bite the hand that feeds him.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2009

Tony Ingram is a Chief Operating Officer of CSX Transportation Inc and
Exec. VP of CSX Transportation Inc of Csx Corporation.
 You probably dont want to talk to him, his half the reason the
trainmasters and officials act the way they do now.
Business Headquarters 
Corporate Headquarters
500 Water Street, 15th Floor
Jacksonville, FL 32202
904-359-3200

CSX Transportation Inc.
500 Water Street
Jacksonville, FL 32202
904-359-3100
is all i can tell ya

Name: Just a nobody
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 07 May 2009

Who is "Ingram" and how do I contact him to complain?  Will it do any
good?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2009

Just a nobody:

Contact Jacksonville about Spencer, i doubt it would get you anywhere,
but its worth a shot. The head of Massey had to fly down there and talk
to Ward about Frula...needless to say "lookit the coal being hauled off
in trucks now instead of trains"
CSX is run by ignorant individuals as all their customers are finding
out slowly

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2009

Danny Spencer of Bham is the same on and off the property. He has
already had a run in with a few employees. Likes to sleep with peoples
wives and it caught up with him.
He is just another of Ingrams Mini-Nazis with a little dick complex.

Name: Just a nobody
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 07 May 2009

Anybody know anything about this Danny Spencer character in Birmingham? 
Is he as much of an asshole in real life as he is at work?  What an
ignorant dick...seems like CSX has a real liability issue with this
loose cannon.  How does he stay employed?  Who in upper management is
protecting this POS?  I'm inclined to pull our little amount of
business from CSX just because he is an employee.  Trucking companies
seem the better way to go...at least in these tough economic times,
they appreciate your business.

Name: 
E-mail: FUCK_MIKE_WARD
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2009

Here is the carriers article off the Gateway about Frontier Yard:

Announcement in Buffalo Today

Released: May 5, 2009

The following announcement was made at Frontier Yard in Buffalo today:

Over the past several days we have been working to finalize plans to
address the significant effect of this difficult economy on our
business. Frontier Yard today is operating only at about 59 percent of
its capacity, handling an average of 855 cars per day.

In prior town halls we provided you with information on developments as
we knew them.  Last week, we announced that CSXT would eliminate the
processing of six road trains through Frontier Yard.  We also informed
you that we were continuing to review the terminal and would keep you
advised of further developments.

Today I must report that we have made the difficult decision to stop
all rail car processing operations at Frontier Yard by the end of May. 
This will result in the elimination of approximately 132 positions
across all crafts.  Approximately 337 positions will remain at Frontier
Yard, including road train crews and support employees.  

Roughly half of the processing work that is transitioning out of
Frontier Yard will be moved to other locations within the
Buffalo/Niagara terminal area, resulting in some positions being added
at Niagara, Kenmore and Rochester Yards.  A significant number of cars
will be processed outside of this area but within New York State.

Frontier Yard will continue to handle local train traffic, utilizing
two new local trains serving nearby customers, and will also continue
to handle interchange traffic with other railroads.  

As you know, the severe economic recession has taken a toll on our
transportation business.  System-wide, we currently have about 2,400
employees furloughed, 30,000 freight cars parked, and more than 500
locomotives idled.  It is difficult for any business to function
properly over the long term under these conditions without making
substantial adjustments. 

The actions we have announced today are a direct result of economic
conditions and in no way reflect on your work at CSXT.  We recognize
that these decisions will likely have a significant impact on your
lives and will work with you to make the transition as smooth as
possible.  CSX provides a toll-free Employee Service Hotline to assist
furloughed employees and help answer questions about benefits, crew
district status, seniority status issues, employment opportunities,
payroll and other important matters. Staff will be available weekdays
from 7:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. to assist you when you call
1-866-742-1939.

Thank you for your patience throughout this process.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 May 2009

People need to live within their means. You think we didn't go through
hard times. A lot of people in my generation of railroaders lost homes
and cars. Till you get to a level of seniority where if the bottom
drops out you can hold a job no one is secure. That isn't even a
gaurentee I've seen yard and terminal closures before people with 30+
years lost jobs being forced to work hundreds of miles from home within
their seniority district just to put in their last years on the RR. This
time around it's hitting everyone from all sides the coal, auto,
manifest ect...drastic reductions. Till the economy turns around I look
for a lot more furloughs. 

C&O Joe can spout all he wants 90% of my trains are coal. West Virginia
isn't the only region hit by the downturn it affects Ohio, Kentucky,
North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania
ect...we all haul coal. That's just CSX. NS is feeling the pinch along
with the UP, BNSF ect...this is nationwide. I still find it hilarious
that those poor fools in By God West Virginia spout the Repo line
especially coming from one of the poorest states in this country behind
Mississippi when they need Dem's to keep social programs going for
people who need it to survive. W.Va is one of the most beautiful states
I've ever been in it's people are proud. Don't even go to the
direction I'm making fun of them. Their hard working honest people.
Some people can't get it through their head that till we start
exporting coal again nothing will move. 

It didn't matter who got elected president. The same scenario would be
going on with McCain. This is no easy fix we can only hope for the best.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2009

htlong has spoken, spoken the truth, and enough said.  Please continue
to share your wisdom with us, htlong, between your golf games, cold
beverage consumption, and flirting with the honeys.  A few on here have
heads harder than the rail they run on.

Name: Lloyd 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 May 2009

One major correction, if they would let you guys retire at 55 who had 30
plus years.  I have no idea why this hasn't happened because it would
definitely help.  Now don't get your panties too wadded up old heads.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 May 2009

Hey Loco +30, last time I checked a person still needed a home to live
in and a car to get places.  Those are basic necessities even for you
unless you are like the guy on man vs wild and make your house out of
random trees and bark and tie giant leaves around your feet and travel
through the jungles.  Your been there done that mentality doesn't help
people who are out of work and can't even afford basic health
insurance.  If all you guys out here who already had 30 in by 55 and
would retire then half of those 2400 out of work right now would
probably be back. 
On another note, I really feel for all you men up there in Buffalo. 
From what I had heard though they have been talking about shutting that
place down for years.  I guess if you have a home up there though and
nowhere else to go you have to wait it out and see if the worst
actually happens.  Turns out it did.  
CSX BLOW, the people who run this company could give two shits about
the men laid off right now. As long as they are making profit for the
stock holder all is well.  I think that their main goal is to get the
stock back up to around 50 or 55 and then I see ole Mikey dumpin and
runnin.  Cutting back employees is a great way to save them money and
maximize profit so you get the picture.  Furloughing is definitely
option numero uno!!
Lastly, I hope you guys down there in coal country saved some money
while the iron was hot.  The future of coal doesn't look too pretty
and Obama isn't going anywhere anytime soon.  I think before its all
over the coal region will be hit harder than anywhere with furloughs. 
Until gas goes back up or the tree huggers go away its going to be a
long rough road.  My heart really goes out to you guys down there where
opportunity is definitely slim.  
Keep your heads up guys, one day Mr. Ward and friends will wake up to a
really hot place and wonder where they are.  By then their mistakes as
men on this Earth will have caught up to them but they still might be
scratching their heads wondering what they did wrong. Greed surely is
one of the seven deadly sins Mr Ward.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 May 2009

AB

They're easy to rile up. Their acting like Goober without his meds.
Rambling insults that gave me a good morning laugh. It's nice way to
start the day. 

RRJ

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 May 2009

proven fact tax breaks create jobs,obama is surpassing fdr in the tax us
out of a recession,it didnt work then it wont work now,obama will create
work but he wont create jobs,less tax equals more to spend equals more
jobs,more tax give aways equals more taxes and work paid for by tax
money equals failure.
but sonny you want to repeat historic flaws and blame raygun and
gw.....dont forget that the  congress passes the laws and that it  was
the dems in the majority for 50 of the lAST 60 YEARS........DAMN
RAYGUN..what we need is a good war without the media worrying about
deaths, thank god the media dwe have today didnt cover wwII or we would
all be doing the goose step!

Name: CSX BLOW
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 May 2009

Hey guys I found this news article with video on the net about the
Frontier yard. 250 million profit for the first quarter...hello....I
think this railroad can afford to keep more guys working and not keep
exausting the men they have now.

http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/tough_times_signal_more_job_cuts_090505

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 May 2009

FOR SALE:
Hey there railroad guys....for sale: gigilo business. $1 million/annual
gross. MEET WOMEN! Would like to Outsource all service requests -
Hollywood region.  If interested, put ad in next UTU newsletter, state
phone number and email address, attention Leo. Established customer
base. Scheduled reasonable rates: hourly, daily,weekly, or monthly
depending on circumstances.  No overnight travel. No relocation. Must
have own car. Must enroll in Gigilo School to qualify.  PPE Rubbers
optional. No responsible for crabs, aids, syphlis, etc. CAll now. Ask
for Mr. Smith.  Bring money.

Name: AB
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 May 2009

Damn, RRJ, looks like this guy doesn't like you. I'm sure it really
upsets you. Kind of sounds like the bottom section of the members area
on our SECRET SITE.

Name: RETIRED
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 May 2009

EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT NAFTA THIS WAS INDEED A BAD SITUATION FOR
AMERICA. CLINTON DID  ALL IN HIS POWER EVEN BRIBING HIS FELLOW SENATORS
AND REPRESENTIVE TO VOTE THIS IN.WELL HE GOT IT PASSED AND WE LOST LOTS
OF JOBS ACCOUNT OF IT.CLINTON HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THEIR STATES JUST
TO VOTE THIS IN.IF YOU DO A LITTLE CHECKING BACK YOU WILL FIND THAT TED
TURNER WENT TO MEXICO AND BOUGHT SEVERAL THOUSAND ACRES OF LAND HE
STARTED A RESORT FOR U.S. BUSINESS TO MOVE TO MEXICO.HE MADE MILLONS
SELLING LAND TO COMPANYS THAT WENT THERE.THIS HAS TO BE THE WORST BILL
PAST IN AMERICA IN MY LIFE TIME.WE SURELY HAVE LOST MILLIONS OF JOB
ACCOUNT OF THIS.THE ONLY COMPANY THAT HAS NOT MOVE AT LEAST SOME OF
THEIR PLANTS IS THE R.R. AND IF THEY COULD BELEIVE ME THEY WOULD MOVE
TODAY.I FEEL FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT IS OFF JUST TRY  TO MAKE THE BEST
OF IT . OBAMA IS SENDING ME $250.00 THIS WILL HELP WITH MY WIFES
INSURANCE OVER $800.00 A MONTH.JUST TOO MANY CROOKS IN THE U T U AND
THE COMPANY TO HELP ANYONE.HANCOCK IS ONE OF THE WORST.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 May 2009

In regards to NAFTA...it was the POLITICANS that implemented it.

When the house approved it on Nov. 17, 1993 132 Republican and 102
Democrats voted for it.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement

I guess you're both right!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 May 2009

Damn right discussion is over 30+, get back to that Obama shit sandwich
you are still eating.  Dumbass.  If you are going to defend nonsense
with passion, at least back it up with facts, instead of old election
propaganda you have saved.  With all due respect, my guess is that you
probably never graduated high school, and the only job you have ever
held is working for the railroad.  Therefore, you know absolutely
nothing about anything other than the railroad, and never bothered to
educate yourself.  So much easier to let your local and general
chairman tell you how to vote.  Probably got your ass beat at school,
only dated the ugly girls, married to an absolute bitch that threatens
to whip your ass, good chance you are short and fat, and have such an
inferiority complex about your lot in life that CSX-Sucks.com gives you
an outlet to make yourself feel good writing utter horseshit.  Ignorance
can be cured by educating yourself with proven facts.  Stupidity is
being presented with proven facts and still not believing them.  What
was it you said a few posts back?  "America has become a country that
manufactures nothing we export cheap goods from China, Bangladesh,
Pakistan, etc."  We IMPORT goods INTO the country dumbass!  And if you
are such a hardass union man, do your part for the American worker. 
Refuse to take that stack train and keep your fatass out of WalMart
where you probably purchase 90% of what you own.

There are crooked asses in Government, Management, and Hells Bells, in
the Union.  Nothing will change until people seek the truth, educate
themselves, grow a pair, and demand accountability.  It's always
easier to let someone else think for you and make your decisions. 
How's that sandwich taste??

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 May 2009

Clinton begged and pleaded to get NAFTA passed.  Nobody twisted his arm!
 If I remember right, Ross Perot fought Clinton on NAFTA warning the
American people that it would cause thousands of jobs to leave this
country.  Clinton claimed it would do the opposite and bring jobs here,
yet old Ross was exactly right.  It may have been daddy Bush's idea,
but it was Billy boy who did his best to pass it through.  How can you
blame daddy Bush?  Clinton didn't have to touch it....but he did!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 May 2009

To Engineer 30+:

Once again an ill informed person (democrat).  Corporations do not pay
taxes or hold wealth - only individuals pay taxes or own wealth.  All
corporate wealth is held by individuals in the form of stock ownership.
 If you increase taxes on corporations it affects the owners of the
stock and in the end corporations pass increased taxes on to consumers
in the form of increased prices of their product or service thus the
consumer looses.  

Answer this:  How many poor people do you know that employ people?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 May 2009

Now that's a load of schidt. You must be a Repo. Every problem in the
world Repo's have blamed on Clinton. Your facts don't add up.
Outsourcing didn't catch on till about 5 years ago. In fact during
Clinton term in the WH Americans were prosperious. Dubya allowed tax
breaks to corporations that outsourced by claiming they were overseas
field offices. Something Obama is finally going to end by taxing the
hell out of these free loaders who gave away American jobs. Just call
your Mastercard or Visa see who picks up the other end. Hell even
American power companies outsourced their customer service offices
overseas. 

This discussion is ended. No need to take it any further.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 May 2009

Clinton modified NAFTA from the original Bush version. In the original
draft it was mearley intended to cut down some red tape around trade
between the U.S. and Canada.  Clinton got ahold of it and threw Mexico
in the mix and as soon as they could many key American companies headed
south. Levi's jeans, Rocky boots, Master/American lock, GM, Ford, and
Chrysler all outsourced plants to Mexico and the list goes on and on.
Estimates on the effects of NAFTA range anywhere from 5,000,000 to
15,000,000 jobs. Once this trend started other companies had little
choice other than to outsource to remain competative. It's laughable
that the liberals try to pin NAFTA on Bush sr. If I thought about
killing my ex- wife but decided aginst it and she gets remarried and
her new husband kills the bitch does that make it my fault? An old head
Conductor told me when I first hired in that railroaders are and always
will be their own worst enemy and these recent events are a classic
example. I saw this mourning on the news that there are a bunch of Dems
opposing Obamas cap and trade bill which is one of his tactics aimed at
squeezing the coal industry out of buisness. Why are they opposed to
cap and trade? Because by their own admission it would eliminate an
estimated 3,000,000  coal and oil related jobs. Finally an admission by
the Dems themselves that Obama wants to cut 3,000,000 jobs in our and
related industries to save the earth from an unproven theoretical
threat! They ignore the fact that the earth works in 20,000 year cycles
and we're almost 10,000 years over due for a warming period and their
willing to put 3,000,000 people on the street just in case. Finally
some left wingers with the nuts to stand up aginst the tree huggers for
the sake of our jobs. Maybe there's hope for us after all.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 May 2009

You can credit NAFTA to Daddy Bush. It was a left over bill that fell
into Clintons first term in office. If Daddy Bush had won the election
in 1992 NAFTA still would of been signed. 

You asked, I answered. 

What does NAFTA have to do with the outsourcing of jobs to India,
Pakistan ect...? Or buying goods from China? Last time I looked at a
globe they weren't located in North America.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 May 2009

Goober

I see you're not taking the medication. The doctor told you it would
make you hear voices and become psychotic.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 May 2009

Don't waste your time trying to explain things, Joe.  People like
Engineer 30+ have their head so far up their ass it has cut off the
blood flow to their brains.  Obama could feed him a shit sandwich, tell
him it was peanut butter and jelly, and he would spend the rest of his
life telling everyone what a good peanut butter and jelly sandwich
Obama gave him.  It doesn't take a fool long to identify himself, and
30+ lives to identify himself as much as he can.  Assholes (Republican
or Democrat) in Washington and your respected state capitals will
continue to steal from you and break it off in you as long as you let
them.  While they lavish in their power, they laugh as stupid fuckers
like 30+ slurp up whatever shit they feed him.  Funny how they never
thank him for his union dues that help keep them in office, or never
invite him to the shindigs that his union dues help pay for.  30+ will
be the first to talk shit about a trainmaster off the street with no
experience trying to tell "him" how to run trains.  But yet, union
men were encouraged to vote for a man with no accomplishments to his
credit and a record of nothing.  Go figure!  Reality will come soon
enough and when it does, everybody will get an education and realize
you have been had....except of course, the sexual intellectual
"fucking know-it-all" 30+.

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 May 2009

Between NAFTA, the billions in stimulus money to curb the demand for
coal, the false promises of coal to liquid refineries, and the open
admission of plans to tax the coal industry out of buisness, I find
myself having real trouble buying into the idea that the Demacratic
party is protecting my best intrest. I admit that they are more union
friendly, but if you don't have a job it's not going to do you any
good. It'll be nice for the few of us that are left, but hey, they did
extend our unemployment eligability! Like Bush or hate him coal boomed
during his administration. Just as soon as the enviromentalist got
their boy in office the EPA started freezing mining permits. In April
they froze over 100 permits in West Virginia alone. One of our busiest
mines had to shut their deep mine down and have half their trains
re-routed because they couldn't fill their orders which caused us to
lose 1 shifter, 2 Brakemen, and an Engineer. Our largest mine had to
lay off 80 miners because their largest customer has converted to
natural gas because it's now cheaper to burn gas and pay the contract
fines for not buying the coal than it is to buy the coal and best of
all our "labor friendly" buddies in D.C. financed the conversion.
These are facts that paint a grimm picture of the future of the coal
industry yet every time someone brings it up you all treat their post
as communist propaganda. There isn't a soul on the railroad with any
sense at all that can honestly believe that the coal industry will
benifit from Obama's stratagy, and if coal fails, so do the people
that depend on it to survive.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 May 2009

CSX is a primary coal hauler. The rest is the cake.
If for some reason the cap trade thing works. CSX rr folks are really
gonna get it in the shorts.

Name: Santa Claus
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 May 2009

Helper you're exactly right. No jobs no money no one to buy what few
things left that are produced in the US such as automobiles. No trains
needed to haul what they can't sell. Good Bye GM, Ford and Chrysler
and Good Bye CSX!

Name: Santa's Little Helper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 May 2009

I remember when NAFTA took effect, what a big f#%**! mistake that was.
Ole Clinton and his administration was behind the wheel on that one.
Ever since NAFTA, the U.S. was sitting on a time bomb. No jobs, no
money!!

Name: Santa Claus
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 May 2009

It doesn't matter who gets the credit for NAFTA! It is what it is and
that's a fact. The truth based on observation.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 May 2009

And we can credit NAFTA to whom?

Name: Santa Claus
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 May 2009

30+  You make way to much since for most to understand. The middle class
has been on the way out since NAFTA went into effect and now we're
starting to feel the effects big time. The auto and coal industries
will never be the same thus eliminating millions of more jobs including
RR jobs. No middle class equals no one to buy new cars or other goods
that support the economy. They the government can take their proverbial
global economy and stick it where the sun doesn't shine. You reap what
you sow.

 On a side note. I've been furloughed now for going on 5 months. I
just received a certified letter from CSX that cost $5.32 to send
telling me I can't hold a job anywhere in my seniority district.(no
shit sherlock) It also mentioned to make arrangements to turn in my
radio and switch keys to my trainmaster. I have news for them. I'm in
a conservative mode at the present time and don't make long distance
calls or unnecessary trips. They have my address if they want it. I'm
here 24/7.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 May 2009

I get the point. The $800 billion is bail out money for corporate
welfare. Any other monies used for future projects goes through the
budget proposal which congress will have to pass. It won't happen
quick as you'ld like it to. Until the global recession stablizes coal
will be down. When other countries start steel production back up
we'll start hauling coal. We worked one pier the other night they said
they have a few new contracts. They're still using obsolete dumping
equipment with shakers instead of barrel dumpers. Power plants are
buying cheaper coal from other countries which this pier has a facility
that loads from ship to barges. That hurt us. At one point the rumor was
we would start running loads west instead of just empties. It boils down
to another case of American corporate greed by not utilizing our own
products. We lost a lot of work in this country the past 8 years with
corporations outsourcing American jobs to cheaper labor in India,
Pakistan ect...all during when the Repo's controlled congress. 

The new head of the FRA is a union man Larry Szabo he came from the
UTU. I think Obama is pushing things in a new direction. His
appointments to the federal courts and even the supreme court will not
be so quick to side with corporations. A few years ago a federal judge
in Kentucky who was appointed by Ronald Raygun sided with a coal
company during a union dispute over the selling of the company that the
new owners didn't have to take on the debt of the former owner the debt
was retirees pensions. Enough is enough. America has become a country
that manufactures nothing we export cheap goods from China, Bangladesh,
Pakistan ect...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 May 2009

I like solar panels. I like crack. I like crack heads. I like NoMo.
I like coal. I mounted a solar panel on my hat. It runs my radio and
lantern.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 May 2009

Hey Joe:

Temporary jobs, lasting 3 months, paying $10.00 an hour!

I bet there are millions of men and women willing to jump at that
opportunity, including most of the furloughed Brothers and Sisters!

Name: C&O JOE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 May 2009

Still missing the point! I'm not saying the current state of the coal
market is Obamas fault. I am trying to draw attention to the fact that
he is using our tax dollars to render us obsolete. The BLE, UTU, and
even the UMWA endorsed this guy knowing full well he hated coal. He
convinsed everyone he would stimulate the market for it through the
construction of coal to liquid refineries and now he's forgot about
it. Not one red cent of this $800 billion was alloted for these
facilities and the only mention he makes of coal is when he's talking
about taxing the coal companies out of buisness. Even after all this
the unions keep assuring us he's working hard and making progress for
us but if that were true they wouldn't have to keep assuring us as it
would be evident. I can't figure out why nobody is asking questions
about this? It makes sense though, crossing out our own existance by
way of stupidity and failure to see the big picture seems to be pretty
much the standard around here. Maybe we can get temporary jobs
installing solar panals for $10 an hour like those guys I saw on TV the
other day. Reformed crack heads getting $10 an hour for a job that was
only going to last about 3 months and they were happy as pigs in shit.
They said they were proud to be a part of the solution. Whatever floats
their boat, I suppose being part of the problem pays alot better. If you
depend on coal eat the time for concern has come.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 May 2009

From the REAL FOGHORN LEGHORN,

     That sounds like something I WOULD LOVE TO DO!!!!!  I have to
agree with the gentleman below who tried to use my nickname to cover up
for himself.  But I have to give respect to him for two reasons:

1) He used my nickname to say something "I" would love to do and he
used my name because he STILL works at that shit hole unlike me because
I am more intelligent than any CSX management, let alone CSX employee in
Baltimore and got the hell out when the timing was right!!!  (I realize
this website is looked at globally, let alone nation wide.  But that
doesn't take much to be more intelligent than anyone in
Baltimore...PERIOD!!)

2) I consider you a gentleman for being on the same page I am.  I
honestly consider that a compliment and THANK YOU!!:0):0):0):0)...Use
my nickname all you want!!!!!  Have a safe CSX DAY!!!  Safety is a way
of life!!!  You will need it in BALTIMORE!!!LMAO LMAO LMAO  No matter
what route you go!!!...  :0):0):0)....

FOGHORN LEGHORN.......(Whats up Danny??)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 May 2009

Well Lloyd, I was prepared to join you in the great CSX swine flu
epidemic yesterday, but I got cut off again and couldn't even hold
anything to mark off from... but I was there with you guys that had the
balls to do it in spirit.  I hope the HOS law comes into effect shortly
and is not delayed again and Mikey Ward and the boys take it straight
up the arse!!!  Maybe some of our furloughed brothers and sisters can
actually mark back up then!

Name: Ummmmm
E-mail: BigBlackDong@csx.com
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 May 2009

I was going to send this email to everyone you listed but it would not
go thru :( 




Subject: Priority Derailment report .....


Ha! Made you look! Bwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaa =)

Now what would you be doing if you weren't reading this email?

Duh...... I work for csx and get I paid. The way we management run this
railroad I just have to show up and I get paid :)

If things get too tight around here we go to our layoff's homes and
steal their children and cook them up on the BBQ.

If no one gets hurt but the children that we BBQ, we get our nice
little safety bonus check from the Government. 

Uh, oh. The investigating Feds are knocking on the door. I best start
run'n. 


By the way, check out csx's SEC filing 10K's for all the cash that
goes to their legal budget. See how much it's gone up the past few
years.

What a Dog Shit railroad Eh? 

In my Opinion. I hope csx goes out like a silent Dog fart.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 May 2009

Hey Loco 30+:

Yeah...you're right. If they want to hurt CSX they got lay off enmass
when things get backed up like late '02 early '03 just before the ONE
PLAN.

Nothing got in, nothing got out without 3 or 4 recrews. You couldn't
switch...you shoved tracks...it was a beautiful thing. No one on the
street...trainmasters asking for advice and begging you to double
over...the economy booming...remotes were rare and the ones there were,
were converted.

They could lay off today for 2 or 3 days and CSX wouldn't even notice.
The hearing officers would however be busy for the foreseeable future!

Name: 
E-mail: Fuck Ward and his bitch Ingram
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 May 2009

I agree Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years

When the old heads retire (yes the ones the younger guys keep bitching
about) we are going to get sodimized over and over. The unions do not
have the intelligence that CSX pays for. By that I mean CSX has all
this high dollar attorneys and bachelor degree toting suits that always
manage to stay ahead of the union leaders (both sides). Because neither
union is utilizing any new tactics, its always the same method.....
Need some new fresh union leaders that can match todays smarts with the
likes of the carriers cronies other wise its a losing battle.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 May 2009

This Week's Message 
Hello, this is Michael Ward.

In today's economy, it's only natural for a company like ours to look
inward for solutions, and we're creating some great ones here at CSX.
But behind the scenes is a myriad of efforts to look outward for new
business and economic growth in the communities we serve. 

Our Transportation business, for example, supported more than 100
industrial development projects that were announced in 2008. Those
projects -- which span 18 states -- included 63 new industries and the
expansion of 42 others. The projects are expected to create 3,400 new
jobs in our communities and about 150,000 new carloads for CSX. 

To help get these projects off the ground, CSX offers site layout
services such as industrial park planning, track design and logistics
assistance.

Over half of the $3 billion dollars that will be spent on the projects
announced in 2008 is directly related to energy and the environment -
things like ethanol and bio-diesel plants and facilities for recycling
and environmental remediation. 

Other business development projects include facilities that handle
construction materials -- such as stone, cement and asphalt - as well
as plastic products, consumer goods, metals, grain and paper.

In the past 10 years, we have helped locate or expand more than 1,300
facilities representing an investment of $24 billion and over 48,000
jobs.

So the next time you hear our tagline, "How Tomorrow Moves," remember
that it's not just about what goes on inside our rail operations, but
also the substantial value we offer outside to our customers and
communities.

Thanks for listening, have a safe, productive day and I'll talk to you
again next week.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 May 2009

What you thought the sick-out was really going to happen? Not a fat
chance in hell. I've only seen it work when CSX wants to run trains on
a holiday. An action without a purpose is nothing. I never read anything
on this site as to the purpose. Just because their furloughing people
isn't a reason. CSX treatment of employees is a union action not an
individual one. You newbies better get your schidt together in the next
couple of years. When the oldheads retire they'll be a lot of changes
when those protected under the crew consist are gone. I see engineer
only freight trains in the future. The only thing that stopped it last
contract negotiations was protected employees. If you don't get
involved in the union quit your crying over minor issues and protect
what jobs are left you're the only ones to blame.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 May 2009

Send some emails and ask all the questions you like ;)


"Dziwulski, Ken" <Ken_Dziwulski@csx.com>,        
 "McKenzie, Larry" <Larry_McKenzie@CSX.com>,      
 "Bleakley, Arthur III" <Arthur_Bleakley@csx.com>,
 "Blackmon, Max" <Max_Blackmon@CSX.com>,          
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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 May 2009

Obviously the whole May 1st swine flu/mark off thing didnt work. No
roster calls in Russell.
Til T&E sticks together as a craft, we might as well stop bitching
about what the unions are doing for us. We can even get together and do
shit for ourselves. Sad shit.....

And I too wouldnt mind seeing an article about M. Ward committing
suicide, I would have to frame the newspaper that day.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 May 2009

Would like to see Michael Ward commit suicide.....that would be news
worthy

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 May 2009

C&O Joe

You might work in the coal mine region near. Those of us who haul the
coal to the piers know there aren't any new contracts for export coal
which is 90% of what is haul. It won't start back up till this global
recession ends. I've hauled coal for 32 years I definitely have a
concern. I've been through the fat and lean times several times over
the years. Obama has only been in office 101 days things don't change
that fast. I've seen power plants convert several times from gas to
coal and back. It's still only about 7%-10% of every car of coal we
haul and those numbers are on the high end. 

I see the empties being stored that's not a good sign. We'll see our
freight pools go from 12 down to mabey 4 in the next week. This coal
boom only lasted 15 months the piers had contracts for 3 years with the
possiblity of up to 10 years. But schidt happened the economy went down
globally. Obama had nothing to do with it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 May 2009

SpongeBoob

It's like a broken record that skips "Poor pitiful me, I'm
furloughed". Like their the only ones. Just like the hundreds of
thousands of railroaders who got furloughed before this new generation
each person has to make a choice stick it or quit. That is reality. 

Do I sympathize with their furlough situtation? I most definitely do.
But, most including yourself are to ignorant to understand it's part
of railroading. Maybe you were a one of the fortunate ones that escaped
it so far. 

Do I work for the railroad? Why certianly. I'll gladly give it up when
I get of age I've already got the time. 

I post on here when I check my statis at work. Which is really none of
your concern. But your curious mind wanted to know.

Name: HTLONG
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 May 2009

TO ANGRY WIFE................SHUT UP!.......let your man have his
testicles back!  stay out of his rr career or maybe you plan on calling
his t.m and bitching?   yeah that will help him out.
go get a job!

Name: foghorn leghorn
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 May 2009

Last night, I fucked Michael Ward's soon- to -be ex- wife. I bent that
little whore like a pretzel and shot a load in her ass. It was the
least I could do for the team. Video footage to follow.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 May 2009

I have worked for csx about 5 years. Well it's not been great... i paid
for my job for one was told after the first year i would be working as
much as i could stand. After i was laid off for 12 months and being
called every night for the 12 they called us back for 10 months laid us
off again for a month tried to call us out for work wile ferlohed then
called us back again for 2 months then laid us off this time and when i
called rr retirement thay said i did not unemployment benefits so thats
my story..........

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 May 2009

Just out of curiosity, are the Pencil Dick Twins, AKA Crane Jones and
jimmy dyer still sucking ass in Nashville?

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 May 2009

Angry Wife

Your husband is in the same boat a lot of guys are right now.  I really
sympathize with you and your family and if you want answers as to why
Jacksonville hired too many men you wont find them.  The best excuse
you will get is that the economy is slow but the truth of the matter is
they expected a lot more men to retire but that didn't go as they
planned.  I wont say that slow business has not played a huge part in
the lay offs system wide because that would be a lie but its a huge
mistake by human resources or whoever does the fucking hiring down
there in Jax.  I kind of look at us like a 6 digit number because thats
about the extent of what we mean to those guys in Jax. I look at it like
this, if they TRULY cared about the men who are on the street right now,
why would a CEO still earn a salary in which 10 percent of it could keep
every man who is laid off right now afloat for at least 6 to 12 months
(depending on your family size).  Oh well, I guess as long as other
CEO's do it it's okay for all of them to do it.  You stay strong
their angry wife and tell your husband to keep his head up.

Name: Sponge Boobs Fan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 May 2009

Sponge Bob should just add another "o" & "S" to her or his nick.

I would bet it is really Sponge Boobs rather than Sponge Bob 

Sponge Bob sounds like a female or a 3 Dollar Bill   Fes up 

Come clean with us.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 May 2009

NoMo


"Clarabell at Avon...tell me it ain't so!"  It is fuckin so.

Clarabell fired Tom Wolfe's cousin at Avon the other day then someone
called him back AKA  Trainmaster RoadForeman Joe Berry

Clarabell had 2 more derailments after firing Joe Berry on a derailment
the other day.    So the Avon WARNING is legit and has been elevated to
a higher level now.   Is May 1st CSX Swine Flu Day   Sounds like there
is lots of Swine at CSX     The flu should leak out and infect the
railroad soon.   Unless there is to many Chickens out there.   


Can Chickens get Swine Flu????????

Name: Angry Wife!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 May 2009

Im a wife to a CSX employee. Here's my gripe... My husband  was hired
as a conductor in the Cumberland, Md Yard. Unfortuneatly..........about
3 1/2 months ago he was furloughed. He was about half way through his
trainning. My question is..... Can someone tell me who it is that hired
a buncha different people to lay them off? Id like to find that
person..and then smack them! husband quit his previous decent paying
job for this crap. Now he's working a lower paying job. We have a
small child. Thank god we dont have a house or any other major payments
bc we'd be outta luck. Maryland unemployment was almost a joke. It took
about 2 months b4 we even were able to recieve a payment from them.
(thats a whole other story) I hope someone who is an executive, who
sits on his bum all day, making an outrageous amount of money reads
this and fixes this mess! And next time consider giving the furloughed
a set date of when they are to go back to work. Leaving families to be
finanicallly unstable is ridiculous! If you ask me its a irresonsible
to lay off hard working men *like my husband*  out of work for a long
period of time with no certainty of when they able to work again.
PLEASE TRY TO GET MY HUSBAND AND THE OTHER MEN TO WORK AND STOP BLAMING
IT ON THE ECONOMY!

Name: 
E-mail: FUCK-MIKE-WARD
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 May 2009

With the continious laying off and firing of T&E, one can only wonder
when someone is going to lose it and maybe head on down to Jacksonville
and try t