Rule #1 -- Don't get hurt.     Safety is the first priority. Er, or is it the second, after money.... Or the third after getting the trains out....

 Webmaster's note: Since I go through the server logs regularly, I just thought I'd take this opportunity to point out that all of the comments in defense of the company seem to come from Jacksonville, while complaints come from everywhere that the company does business. You do the math.

 Name: ? E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 24 February 2018 DISPATCHERS!!!!! OK its time for you to chime in on this problem. Everyone knows there are a few of you who read this site everyday, Especially the foamers and you know who you are..LOL! I am guilty of being one of those people who have used my cell phone to expedite getting my train out of the yard as quick as I can by calling the TO desk and the PTC desk to get help. I have done this because I know Im using my phone to handle an issue related to my job and trying to just get the train rolling and on the move. After talking with numerous other conductors and engineers and reading the electronic device policy I have determined that they are 100% right on the way it is written and we ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO use it to call for this assistance. So, please tell all of us how you feel about us toning you up and asking you to patch the PTC or TO desk through to us. No one is sure how many calls we make across the system to these departments on our own phones and how many of us violate the policy every day, but our guess is there are tons of calls made on a daily basis. Just how distracting and time consuming will this be to you if we all follow the policy and contact you to have them contact us? I know sometimes it takes me up to 10 minutes to get a dispatcher to answer and Im sure you have your reasons but if we are holding a train from departing or have problems trying to reengage the system after switching on line of road and we have to call you to do our communication is this going to cause you more undue stress? Will the TMs take the blame for us departing late in their yards or will they blame you if you don't answer fast enough for their liking? How do you feel about being the sole communicator between crews and the PTC and TO desk? Just asking for your opinions on this matter. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 24 February 2018 SMH Gonna get CSX in a lawsuit. That's some funny shit right there. CSX doesn't give a damn if they get sued. They're in the middle of all kinds of suits and there is a lot more coming. Google CSX news. The Fmla cases are coming. 46 former employees are suing them now. They continue to wrongfully terminate men and they know it's going to cost them and their managers. When you can pay a man on his deathbed 300 million what's the big deal with some ass hole TM causing suits. 

 Name: TECH E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years Posted: 24 February 2018 LOCO Loss of radio communication is not a failure of the mobile phone units to connect properly. You are misinterpreting the rule. That rule was meant to cover the loss of verbal communication between the crew members. If the radio malfunctions or the distance becomes to great or distorted for the engineer and the other crew members to communicate and do their job safely then personal or company provided cell phones may be use to continue the communication until the radio can be replaced or the problem is solved. You can try to use the mobile phone feature to make contact with the mechanical desk, PTC or the trip optimizer help desks. There is obviously a problem with this system. It has been mentioned on this site several times that it is not working properly or the proper base stations are not up to date in the company provided timetables. If they don't work then you need to notify the proper dispatcher and explain the problem. Request that they contact the proper department and have them contact you on the radio. You are all correct in the not using your personal phones for making contact with any of these departments. The electronic/electrical device policy is very clear on the use of a personal cell phone and when and WHERE you can use them. For engineers this may cause a problem. The company has not been issuing company cell phones to the crews for use. If there is a problem with an engine that requires the engineer to have to access the rear compartment of the engine and troubleshoot a problem, the handsets on the engine radio's are not long enough to reach that distance. Therefore an engineer may have to run back and forth from the cab to the repair point. This most likely will be a problem if it is something that must be handled from the ground. This will be very distracting as well as inconvenient and time consuming. It would be much better for everyone concerned if the electronic device policy would be revisited and rewritten in a manner that would cover these circumstances. The need for immediate and serious action because of past accidents where proof that cell phones led to the break down of job duties and safety and was a contributing factor is the reason the policy was so strict. The rush to put a policy in place almost always leads to procedural failures in the language. This apparently has happened. The job duties of the engineer, the failures of radio/mobile telephone units and the need to have strict control over the misuse of personal phones while on duty has frankly created a serious conflict between the crew members ability to do their jobs efficiently and with trust and still follow the written policy. Until the policy can be reviewed again at the table with the company and the FRA do not use your cell phones for communication with the PTC or TO help desk. Speak with your dispatchers and follow their instructions. Give it time. CSX and the FRA will see the conflict and errors in the language of the system bulletin and will correct it. You have all seen this happen numerous times. Have some patience. 

 Name: SMH E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years Posted: 24 February 2018 Trainmaster David Benson is one of the dumbest cocksuckers that I've ever met. I can't believe that CSX still has him on the team. That fat fuck is going to get CSX into a lawsuit. 

 Name: Dave E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 24 February 2018 L&N disp. Placing a shunt in front of a crossing is done all the time by road way working on an approach. To keep from activating the gates while they work, a shunt is placed down and the control circuit activates, then thinking the shunt is a train deactivates. The circuit can't see down the approach and the crew works on with no flagman. Occasionally the crew forgets to remove the shunt and go home. Later, the circuit can't see an approaching train and kills a driver. See example CSX track in Fl. Mother and two children killed because of this. I'm surprised you don't know this! Now for my instruction. Shunting an approach with a train on the approach causes no problem, just make sure you remove the shunt after the test. Why do you think the company rules forbid shunting unless the circuits in use are restricted and are not fail-safe? Don't take my word for, do the test!!!!' Why would you send a message out telling people not to make a test that could save lives? The RRs are using you to cover the illegal use of this control circuit. The narratives are from Jim Mabes little box of tricks. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 24 February 2018 Im also a railroader pal I was a trainman that transfered to the mechanical department. Because I could not be in a safety sensitive position due to medical condition. I’m in the know about everything that is going on, I sympathize with your frustration. Lived them all and I have been to many wrecks, The reason I posted about rr crossings so the public might realize the danger they put themselves in and traincrews in. Yes technical changes are suppose to help us in our jobs,but in a lot of times adds extra stress. I have lived threw many changes over the years on the rr. But an employee has no choice but to accept changes or move on. 

 Name: conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 24 February 2018 Ape1 I AM a railroader and pissed off is fucking right. You stupid morons who keep posting your tinker toy crap need your pie holes slapped shut. I see ignorant morons run the gates every single trip Im on. Wouldn't matter how effective the gates were or if they came on 1 minute before you got there. The retards would still run the gates. Screw the gates! The company crammed the TO down our throats to shave their precious fuel then they installed the LIFE SAVING PTC down our throats because some idiots couldn't or wouldn't pay attention to what they were doing and the FEDS claimed it was going to be the life saver of all time. Then the feds and CSX put out this policy that states in black and white we cant use our personal phones to trouble shoot and handle work related issues and problems with the damn systems. I cant believe how stupid and ignorant some of the managers are and cant read! Had 2 run their mouths that no where in the policy did it state we couldn't use our personal electronic devices for work related issues. we had to pull out the damn bulletin and show the retards what it said. We can use RAILROAD SUPPLIED ELECTRONIC DEVICES TO HANDLE WORK RELATED ISSUES! No gray areas on the use of personal devices. ONLY IN CASE OF EMERGENCY OR LOSS OF RADIO COMMUNICATION! You got to get off the damn motor position yourself away from the nearest rail by 25 feet to use your personal device. When your don't it has to be turned off stored away and not on your person. The mobile/phone units are a damn joke. You cant get half of them to work and almost all the new timetables are missing bases for subdivisions. We tried for several hours throughout our trips this week to get them to work. No tone back. NO responses. Total bullshit. Where the hell is the safety in this! WE have all agreed, if the PTC isn't working right we will tell the dispatcher and he can have the PTC call us on our radios. If they don't get through or cant handle the flood of calls we can just turn the thing off! GOOD RIDANCE! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 24 February 2018 Cost ten billion dollars to install PTC for American railways. A huge undertaking and sounds like the system when complete. Could cause a lot of real big headache to have continuity in the system. The maintance costs to maintain it is going to be huge cost for the railways. That is why they keep getting extensions. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 24 February 2018 Hey “pissed off “go back in the basement and play with your train set. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 24 February 2018 Concerned citizen It's obvious you're not a railroader. Railroad takes a person a lot of places during their career. They get to see & do a lot. I didn't correct anyone only stated the facts. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 24 February 2018 L&N Dispr You're correct on the real Dave Nelson. There's someone posing as Dave. He made a mistake a few days ago by stating he screwed up a switch this year in January. Dave Nelson left CSX around 22 years ago. 

 Name: Loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 24 February 2018 Karma The rule says you can use your phone in cases of emergency and loss of radio communication.I would think that the telephone communication on the radio in the cab failing to work would be considered a failure in proper communicstion and you would then be able to use your phone to call the PTC help desk. That's exactly how it should be viewed since the PTC is considered a serious safety device by the FEDS! I don't see a gray area here. That's the way the rule is written. Let them try and write me up for using my personal phone when I've tried using the radio's phone feature and it fails. They can view their tapes all they want to see if I tried. Just another federal charge to bring against the company for failure to keep safe and adequate radio /mobile phone communication up and running! 

 Name: L&N dispr E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years Posted: 24 February 2018 Crazy Comer, don't you have an ambulance to chase down to make some quick blood money? Now go play with your little CB, good buddy... 

 Name: kyle E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 24 February 2018 The worst thing are the radios so mush noise on them esp when it comes from the transmitter on the engines, plus the rr,s use signal maintainers instead of people who have radio commutations license to repair and maintain the radios. 

 Name: Other Bob E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 February 2018 L@N proper authorities the other goof ball pretenders like you? There are no PROPER authorities just weasel dick clowns LIKE YOU. Now go play with your tinker toys. 

 Name: L&N dispr E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years Posted: 24 February 2018 RE: T&E crews, I highly recommend that no crew takes it upon themselves to put a shunt down in front of their train approaching a xing, as Dave Nelson suggest.. This is a rule violation. If you suspect there is a problem with the xing, notify the proper authorities. If this is the real Dave Nelson, you should know better to tell a crew to do this... 

 Name: Dave Nelson E-mail: Nelson284@juno.com Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 24 February 2018 Re: Concerned citizen Out of respect for your post I will answer your questions briefly. Q: seems like there are larger more dangerous things looming? A: The answer is that train Drailments and crossing accidents will climb dramatically without exposure to those responsible. To protect yourself and family, stop and look at ALL railroad crossings. You are supposed to trust the warning systems completely. Actually they were fail-safe but we replaced this device with one that fails. Motive? Massive fraud by railroads To keep informed monitor the expenditures and purpose of the Transportation Infrastruture Improvements. One to start with is the PTC. This thing must be miraculous, every accident could have been prevented by this component according to railroads and FRA. See who ends up paying for it. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 24 February 2018 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/runaway-trains-almost-triple-reported-rate-cbc-finds-1.2448494 

 Name: Dave Nelson E-mail: Nelson284@juno.com Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 23 February 2018 Train crews Before you start second guessing me, get some guts and crawl off your engine and do the same test I just gave to the FRA, NTSB and CSX Chief Engineer. When you are stopped short of a crossing, walk to the crossing and jumper the track 80 to 100ft from the crossing. Build speed past 3mph toward the crossing then post your results on this safety site. If you're not a part of the solution you must be a part of the problem! DO THE TEST!!!!!!! it just might save your life. 

 Name: Dave Nelson E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 23 February 2018 Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) National Transportation Board (NTSB) Carl Walker CSX Chief Engineer of Signals Perform this test to show failure of crossing warning system: 1.Take track authority and properly flag a crossing. The signal that activates the lights and gates are on the tracks. When the tracks are shorted by a trains wheels the lights flash and gates drop. A jumper wire shorting the tracks acts the same as a trains wheels. The start point of a warning system is far enough down the approach to activate lights and gates giving a driver a minimum of 20 seconds warning time. This is in accordance to the laws you are not enforcing. 2. Use a jumper capable to short the track 80ft. From the crossing edge. 3. The lights and gates will activate understanding the cable is a train. 4. The lights and gates will remain activated for a few seconds, then, they will deactivate thinking the jumper cable is a stopped train on the approach. 5. Now run a train down the approach. The train will NOT start the warning system until it crosses the first cable at 80ft or from a vehicle being struck by the train. 6. What does an unsuspecting driver see? Google UTA Fed Ex train accident. The narriatives provided to the public are false. 7. A jumper cable would be detected in a signal territory, but by viewing the UTA Fed Ex accident you will see snow, ice, rain and other track conditions act the same as a cable NOT being detected by the Signal System. Dave Nelson 02-23-18 CSX Crossing and Signal Design Engineering Nelson284@juno.com For questions or comments 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 February 2018 Radios most likely don’t work right, because the. Rr has not installed or maintained the repeaters. Remember cost cuts to drive shares up. Start writing your congressman about safety issues. 

 Name: Carman E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 23 February 2018 I’ve been to lots of wrecks in my career,seen it all. We have the same rules with personal phones. I always carried my cell phone. And if I had to use it in an emergency I would and deal with the non- sense later. 

 Name: Pissedoff E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 23 February 2018 Carman God man. Please stop. Might as well have that pines signal crossing nut back! Hazmat train wrecks. Crude oil train wrecks. Rear end collisions. Why do you think they passed the PTC program. Now the crews are turning it off because the company and the FRA has written some stupid phone rules that don't allow them to call for help with problems on their phone? Then their radios don't work right. When it comes to safety this issue way trumps your signal problems. A person gets killed at a crossing that's bad. A train rearends another train loaded with dangerous cars and catches on fire that's a hell of alot worse! Let's get our priorities straight! 

 Name: E-mail: Carman Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 23 February 2018 There is all kinds of education out there about RR crossings. Railway police go to schools and talk about it to kids. Driver training courses warn about RR crossings. They should never happen if people just pay attention. To this day science has not found a cure for STUPID. 

 Name: Carman E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 23 February 2018 I’m not defending the railway,I have my 1A drivers licence ,school bus needs a. 2 garabage truck with air brakes 3A In short your a professional driver, and if the arms are defective , it is still your duty to look both ways. A school bus has to stop at all rr crossings. These crossing accidents should never happen if a professional driver does there due diligence. 

 Name: L&N dispr E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years Posted: 23 February 2018 Comer: pretty much proof positive you don't know what you are talking about. Looks like you are LYING AGAIN. YOU DID NOT do the investigation, so shut up ... 

 Name: Other Bob E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 February 2018 https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/HWY18MH005-prelim.pdf Pretty much proof the NTSB is about as corrupt as it gets. Magic witnesses appear after 3 weeks--Video disappears for three weeks. No mention of the skewed, humped, drop offs that would hang up Big Foot, missing barriers around gate posts, why a uphill train would be going 61 mph in a 60 mph zone after seeing a big frickin truck across the tracks for 10 seconds (1.46667x10 seconds truck clears)--interviews with bus garage--- Just look at gate--lights--street paint (feet out of MUTCD standards) This even legal? Do any of them have a clue on how signals DON'T WORK? CSX took over crossing ownership January 3rd. Night trains. FORM FRA F 6180.71 (Rev. 3/15) 01/03/2018 line 16. Crossing Owner (if applicable) CSX 2.E. Low Ground Clearance Sign  Yes (count 4) 7. Smallest Crossing Angle 0° – 29° 9. Regularly Used by School Buses? Yes --Average six per day. 1.B. Total Night Thru Trains (6 PM to 6 AM) --2 

 Name: Herp E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 23 February 2018 OZZBURNT That is the best idea I have ever heard. Next time sum it up so people will actually read it. Nobody wants to read a 10 page novel. It is a great idea though. 

 Name: L&N dispr E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years Posted: 23 February 2018 Concerned citizen, Dave Nelson does not work for CSX anymore. He was a whistleblower about 22 years ago against CSX. So, I don't know who would have made that post. RRJim, you were right to point that out about the Buckingham Branch. I almost went there to help dispatch their territory. 

 Name: Carman E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 February 2018 Hh Foote ceo’s Like them are not spending money on signal crossings track maintance,they are doing the bare minimum on all rr maintance. Cut the jobs of people that use to maintain this work. They save millions of dollars on wages material etc. And maintance only gets performed on infrastructure when it is totally necessary. The goverment looks the other way. With all the money not spent, if there is an accident and they have to settle a few law suits, they are still ahead financially. It is a shame that the goverment is not more concerned about public safety. And what I witness when Hh took over cn and cp. He pushed the envelope further and further testing the goverment and got away with everything. Hh did exactly what ever he wanted and the goverment hid there heads in the sand. These goverment inspectors are x railroaders recommended by the railroads, for filling the goverment jobs. They are just tokens that,really can’t change anything. I’m not blaming the people I know some personally I blame the way the system is designed. 

 Name: Concerned citizen E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 23 February 2018 Dave Nelson You have been corrected by the man who has seen and done it all(rrjim). Good job on standing your ground on signal fraud and the scams that lead to accidents and death. Your point was well made and it wasn't necessary for you to be corrected on that post. From what I'm reading on here it sounds like something bigger and more dangerous is brewing. This crap with the crews not being able to use their phones to correct problems with the PTC and just turning the system off by orders of the dispatchets scares the crap out of me and my family! What the hell is wrong with CSX and the FRA. Is this crazy insane behavior an everyday occurance with CSX. Radios on the engines don't work half the time? Is this crap for real. How come the FCC is not all over this. Maybe it's time for all of us to start lobbying for full federal takeover and regulation of the railroads or at least CSX. 

 Name: Carman E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 February 2018 Some one posted on here,that the tm adjusted pistons. I’m assuming he meant piston travel on amtrack cars. For one thing the tm is not trained or certified to do this. They do not understand how a slack adjuster works or the brake system. I hope the train crew record this when, people that are not certified to do this work. Are reporting to you they are. Are they fuckng crazy. No wonder Amtrak has so many issues. There are lots of reasons for piston travel being to long. And tm etc do not know what to look for or understand the brake mechanics. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 23 February 2018 Dave Nelson The Crozet AMTRAK/trash truck incident was on the Buckingham Branch Railroad not CSX. BBRR has leased the line from CSX since around 2003. BBRR is responsible for maintaining crossings. I worked for BBRR through Manpower as an outside contractor for 4 1/2 years after retiring from CSX. They have their own signal department. I ran that line with the C&O then CSX from 1984-2000. CSX does route some coal & grain MTY trains over that line. BBRR is a mon-fri 0600-1600 shortline railroad running just locals. They have 6 AMTRAKS (3 east & 3 west) 3 days a week. It's a quiet railroad. 

 Name: Engineer E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 23 February 2018 Corp. Just had that problem a few days ago. Had a problem with the PTC engaging properly. Stupid yardmaster kept trying to rush me out of the yard. Told him 3 times I was working on it. He then wanted to know if i called them. Told him straight out on the radio that we aren't allowed to use our phone's by the rules. He then said to go without it. Told the dispatcher and he said ok, then turn it off. So see, know one gives a crap about your PTC. your phone rule trumps the PTC rule. Why did the feds and csx waste the money on it. 

 Name: OZZBURNT E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 February 2018 The 2 greatest factors in 94.2% (I made that number up on the spot) of accidents in most industries are distractions/loss of focus, or fatigue and fatigue is one of the major causes of distractions/loss of focus. Other factors can cause a loss of focus, like use of a cell phone, listening to music while working, horseplay, issues in our lives outside of work like health or family problems, etc. Not sure how to completely eliminate all of these factors, but fatigue could be greatly reduced without changing very much at all. Anyone that is subject to being called into work knows that a lot of times you sit around waiting on a call that never comes and then finally when you are tired and ready to sleep you get the call. If we were to have our extra boards divided by 4 and your bid was for a time slot then fatigue would be nearly eliminated. Example: An extra board has 16 people on it so 4 bids would be for 0600-1400, 4 bids would be for 1400-2200, 4 bids would be for 2200-0600 and 4 bids would be available for call any time. No 2 people on any one slot would have the same days off. This would work to reduce fatigue and improve your overall quality of life and health, you could also plan appointments or family functions, and so much more. This would not negatively impact availability of manpower to CSX because they would have available to them 4 people per 8 hour time slot and up to an additional 4 people from the 24hr slot. If both are exhausted then they would revert to calling the first out rested from the other 2 time slots. This model could be modified to fit specific needs, for example each time slot could be adjusted to different hours and furthermore each slot could be staffed according to needs, maybe more people for the busiest time slot, and less for the slot with lighter needs. My sole purpose in writing this is to hopefully get the attention of people system wide and possibly with a glimmer of hope get people thinking about it so maybe, just maybe the ball can start rolling on this idea or any variation similar. In my opinion, had a proposal like this been presented in our contract, we would have been better of than with anything we got and it doesn't in any way hurt CSX for manpower. Thank you for your time in reading this, I know it was more than most would like to read on here but I do appreciate it. P.S. An added bonus would be that most of us would call in sick less because there are times that we have to call in sick because we are tired or have something going on that we can't miss. 

 Name: Carman E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 February 2018 My issue reading these, rules that you can’t use your phone in the cab even if you are ordered to,you are safe in the cab. If you have to get out of the cab and be twenty five feet away from the cab. Puts a person in harms way,because you are distracted while on the phone and if you break the plain of the rail you could get hit by a train next to your track. What if you have to write information down would you not be better in the cab. What ever happened to common sense and safety first. 

 Name: Hogger E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 22 February 2018 Corp. Are you fricking kidding me. LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! I've tried I don't know how many times to use the phone feature on the radios and only had it actually work maybe 3 times.those instructions in the timetables are fricking Greek and don't help explain crap. As for getting off the power to use my phone for the help desk..sure I can do that and after I talk to them I got to turn it back off before I get back on the power with the way the rule is written. Get back off the power call them back the do the same crap again. Back and forth. The PTC and the TO people are doing to freak the hell out we start doing that shit. Does the FRA even know we aren't using the PTC because we can't call them on our phone's and your not providing us with a company cell phone? Millions were spent on getting this PTC in place for safety and to prevent train crashes and we're turning it off because we can't call for help with our phone's while we're in the cab. I don't think THE feds know what's going on our here! Time to let the car out of the bag! 

 Name: Oper. Rules E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years Posted: 22 February 2018 ALL LOCOMOTIVE OPERATORS READ THE USE OF ELECTRONIC AND ELECTRICAL DEVICE RULE 1000.1! There is absolutely no gray area in this rule in regards to the use of a PERSONAL DEVICE. YOU MUST BE OFF THE LOCOMOTIVE AND AT LEAST 25 FEET AWAY FROM THE NEAREST RAIL INCLUDING ADHERING TO THE OTHER STATED CONDITIONS. THE EMPLOYEE AT THE CONTROLS OF A LOCOMOTIVE MAY USE A "RAILROAD SUPPLIED ELECTRONIC DEVICE OR ELECTRICAL DEVICE" FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES AFTER ALL STATES CONDITIONS ARE MET. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE YOUR PERSONAL DEVICE/CELL PHONE!!! IT MUST BE A RAILROAD SUPPLIED DEVICE. YOU CAN NOT CALL THE PTC HELP DESK OR THE TRIP OPTIMIZED DESK WITH YOUR CELL PHONE UNLESS YOU ARE OFF THE EQUIPMENT. THEREFORE IN ORDER TO STAY IN THE CAB TO TROUBLESHOOT THE ONLY OPTION YOU HAVE IS TO USE THE LOCOMOTIVE RADIO UNITS TELEPHONE FEATURE. YOU CAN FIND THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE IN YOUR SUBDIVISION TIMETABLES. IF YOU ARE UNSUCCESSFUL OR THE RADIO UNIT IS NOT EQUIPPED YOU MUST REPORT THE INCIDENT TO THE APPROPRIATE DISPATCHER. AGAIN, YOU MUST NOT USE YOUR PERSONAL DEVICES IN THE CAB OF THE LOCOMOTIVE UNLESS IT IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION OR YOU HAVE LOST RADIO COMMUNICATION. IF A SUPERVISOR ORDERS YOU TO USE YOUR PERSONAL DEVICE TO CONTACT THEM OR CALL ANY HELP DESK YOU ARE TO BE OFF THE EQUIPMENT AND ADHERE TO ALL RULES STATED IN THE RULES PUBLISHED UNDER 1000.1. 

 Name: Dave Nelson E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 22 February 2018 Federal Railroad Administration & National Transportation Board Amtrak/ Trash Truck/ Congressmen accident. FRA you presented to me all posts I have made on this site for years wanting me to verify they were my posts. You may want to save this one. The CSX Signal Department knows you work in partnership with railroads for economic protection. We ran an Amtrak into a trash truck loaded with half our Congress. There are only three options as a cause as we see it. 1. The trash truck driver was stuck, stopped or stalled on the crossing with gates down, lights flashing and horn blowing for thirty seconds prior to being hit by Amtrak. 2. The truck driver ignored the warnings and crashed through a down gate and head ended an Amtrak one second away. 3. The lights and gates failed to activate in time to warn the truck driver of an approaching train. FRA & NTSB, why has number three never been reported on? I have met with you, NTSB and USDOT on failed warning systems. The lights and gates are known to fail in activating. The control circuits are being used illegally and lead to many deaths and infuries yet the FRA, NTSB, Amtrak and CSX remain deadly silent. Dave Nelson 01-22-18 CSX Signal Engineering nelson284@juno.com 

 Name: Carman E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 February 2018 When the safety culture gets put on the back burner, because it slows down production. There will be more accidents to come in all departments. With this mantle ridge crowd it is all about money. People can be replaced. Again they will just find a few scape goats. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 22 February 2018 Lined and locked into our track. Maybe he had a brain fart and just tapped out. It looked ok at the time!!!! 

 Name: Other Bob E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 February 2018 https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Pages/RSR1801.aspx ...The engineer of the stopped CSX train had exited the lead locomotive before the Amtrak train entered the siding, ran to safety, and was not injured. The conductor of the CSX lead locomotive saw the Amtrak train approaching in the siding and ran to the back of locomotive. The conductor was thrown off the locomotive and sustained minor injuries... Looking off overpass 33.9049711,-81.0668294 https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/RRD18MR003.aspx With no time to run or hide with maybe time for a "oh shit" --How did the CSX crew know to run and hide unless they knew the switch was screwed? 

 Name: BillyL E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 22 February 2018 but not limited to, damages for back pay and benefits, front pay, compensatory damages, punitive damages, out of pocket expenses, liquidated damages, contributions to fringe benefits including pension and retirement, and all other damages recoverable under the above laws plus prejudgment and other interest. Court cost. Fees and attorney fees. This is what we're going after. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year Posted: 22 February 2018 Wonder what ever happened to the Safety First campaign, that the railways pushed so hard. I guess they can’t afford it no more with all the cuts. Like cutting Hh a check for 84 million. 

 Name: Dave Nelson E-mail: Nelson284@juno.com Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 22 February 2018 RRJIM Thanks for the post. I too was targeted by CSX for Drailing an Amtrak that killed 8 people. The Assistant Chief Engineer Signals (Hugh Hopkins) falsely accused me for not having an M23A switch machine to replace a worn out hand throw switch. We split the switch killing 8. My Director CJ Nicely had repeatedly cancelled my orders for a new M23A Switch to force Signal Supervisors to send old switches in for repair, saving money to the budget. I was kicked out of the Head Quarters Building by Hopkins. I told Bryan Tucker (VP Corporate Communications) by phone on 01-04-18 and reported this. I had been wrongfully terminated and my work carreer destroyed. Bryan told me he would have some one look into this. Today is 02/22/18, and no response from CSX. Makes one wonder about the true cause of running an Amtrak into a CSX train doesn't it? 

 Name: Carman E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 22 February 2018 I put my thirty five years in,and back in the day the running trades union was nothing to mess with. They where not scared to shut the railway down , or work to rule. Guys stood together. And management wanted no trouble and things where worked out pretty fast. What I found with this gang is. They will fire as many as it takes to make a point, even if it left them short of staff. They figured out how to manipulate all the data to make themselves look good. They know what they have to do to get themselves big payday at the expense of everyone else. Hh was great for the shareholders, but it was criminal some of the things he pulled off and people lost there lives. Working for the rr today is a high stress job. And is not for everyone. 

 Name: DSW E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 22 February 2018 It's good you girls got a big pay out. Will be needing it to pay lawyer fees,court cost and damages. For your role in the Fmla wrongful termination. Most likely you girls will be let go too. After carrier turns its back on you ladies. Management MICP bonus payout is 159% this year. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication! 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 22 February 2018 Oldstories LOL! So, we had 4 people onboard a train with a caboose. I was a locomotive engineer only had one person with me on the head end just like today. Drinking? It happened the railroads were lax back then. It took one person to end it that was Ricky Gates. He ran a Conrail light set of engines into the side on an AMTRAK and there were fatalities. He sold us out for a lighter prison sentence testifying in front of Congress that railroaders were alcoholics & drug addicts. It was a crock of crap. I never brought any of what you said up. I only stated you people signed up to do a job. If you have to work a lot, so what!!!!! That's what railroaders do. Don't like it quit. People quitting the railroad has gone on forever. It's not a job for everyone never has been. If your generation thinks you can change it Good Luck. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 February 2018 Trainmaster You are welcome! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 February 2018 The guy running CSX are the same people, that put office staff in front of the controls of trains ,when they needed that train to move. They where not going to recall anyone and screw up the numbers of operating ratio. And if you protest in any way it will give them more reason to put management in front of the controls. Ceo creel an American trained by Hh. Said on camera that he is not taking that practice of using office staff to run trains off the table. When they go to negotiate the new contract. When he used management to run trains everyone went to work as normal. Even shared the same cab of the train with them. I posted the video on here once and it showed how they fast tracked training them with a simulator. You think your going to have a wild cat strike. And stop them it’s been done and they fired the organizers of the wildcat strike. I hope your right that they won’t use management. Why do you think Foote would change his tactics just because he is in USA. These ceo,s that work for these hedge funds could care a less about contracts and bargaining in good faith. You are all just a tool to make them money. I had four years of it under Hh. No one stepped into stop the practice of it, not the union or goverment. It was business as usual. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 February 2018 Management MICP bonus payout is 159% this year. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication! 

 Name: VL E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 February 2018 Brakeman We've had this discussion. If CSX even thinks of giving our jobs to management and crosses our union agreement in that manner we will stop our dues from coming out of our checks. If we have to picket the yard and take it to the press so be it. That violation is one of the worst and down right nasty dirty shit in the history of union's in the USA! Alot of us have family members who have union blood in them and I'll tell you now the ones from the hills of Kentucky and the coal mines will talk to the press and who knows what else. My family has already said enough is enough with this crap. This violation will be hell to pay. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 February 2018 Same old pukes always take calls that they don't have to, screwing guys out of work and helping the company "trim fat" 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 February 2018 This could be safety issue,when the traffic picks up and they start calling people back,but cannot give them gaurentee how long they will work. Lots won’t take recall. So they will start using managers to run trains. Just like Hh did at cp cn. Time will tell if this happens 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 21 February 2018 Well Genz, A Conductor, for Less than 1 year - needs to be able to live without the RR. 

 Name: Genz E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 February 2018 0311 HVAc man BSN Unlike you retards I can live without the RR. Generation Z. 

 Name: XLC E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 21 February 2018 Avon engineers Quit taking the damn roster calls. What the f..ck is wrong with you. Don't cry like little punks when you can't get an extra day off. Are you just retarded! 

 Name: Gems and real men E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 February 2018 Stop calling me a snowflake and mangina.I will get my mom to go to hr and put a complaint in. If I have to bring my mommy to work with me your going to be in trouble. And if I don’t like my twig and berries that’s my business. And it offends me when you sit in the cab with your legs open.It makes me have those feelings when I see you sit like that.So stop it it makes me feel fuzzy all over my body. 

 Name: Sickofwaiting E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 21 February 2018 bickering idiots Stop your damn immature fighting. What we all need is for this damn horse and pony show to be over with. Get their damn changes done. UNION isn't going to be able to a thing about structural changes. It's not in their jurisdiction. Got no say. Just cut the jobs, the people and start the damn super pools. It's coming. Accept it. I got 4 years left and I want this crap over with so I can see what's left for us after the devils right hand destroys everything. Decide if I want to ride it out or get the hell out. Unions are behind anything that pads their pockets. Just want this shit over with. Young bucks who just hired in got plenty of time to adjust. I'm getting to old for this shit. Got no time to deal with management and the union's using the agreement as an IOU! Their in the same bed. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 February 2018 It’s been over a couple weeks now that a big wreck involving CSX has not been in the news yet?with employee fatigue and maintance cut backs should be a regular thing to hear about wrecks. The first year that Hh was ceo of cnr they had more wrecks in such a short period of time Hh was on the news weekly about his safety record and all the fatalities under his watch. CSX should follow with Foote because he was at cnr with Hh at the time. 

 Name: Cool mo D E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 21 February 2018 Gen Z I bet you still live with your parents and when you go to the Walmart you get really confused on which restroom to use. Here's a clue if you got a set of nutz go in the men's fuck wad 

 Name: GenZ E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 February 2018 I like puppies. Coloring books are nice too. Anyone who has a name like real men must be trying to compensate for something. 

 Name: Real men E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 21 February 2018 New generation maybe we can put teddy bears and coloring books or maybe a puppy on the locomotives for you crybaby mother fucks or how about a Transgender bathroom give me a break asslick 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 February 2018 I can't wait to read about the Fmla suits being filed. Company and supervisors being held accountable. You men deserve every nickel you get. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 February 2018 Yeah, quitting the RR use to be unheard of, why, because it WAS a great job. Now the RR pretty much sucks so don't preach about how it was so hard and it's a cake job now, I think you have it backwards. We would love for the RR to go back to how it was in the old days. Hell we use to be able to stay displaced if we wanted, or work a shift, take a nap in the car and hit it again if we wanted. Before, 5 years seniority wasn't bad and anyone with 10 plus had a choice of several jobs, now it takes about 10 years to hold an extra board spot. 

 Name: Monty Burns E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 February 2018 I'm seeing people quit left and right. This used to be a job no one EVER quit. It's going to be just another revolving door shit show McJob. Even looking for something for myself. F@&# Mantle Ridge, these clowns don't even know the pointy end of a spike. Y'all can rot in Hell with your boy HH. 

 Name: Current generation E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 February 2018 Why do people want to let everyone know how "hard" it was, how "rough" it use to be? Who cares? It's so annoying, quit crying about how it was so hard and guys now days have it so easy, who cares? You "old timers" must think you were so tough and anyone born after 1980 has it made. Again who cares? Most old heads I have talked to always say it use to be a great job and it has gotten worse, they also talk about how you could get away with anything and it was very uncommon to get fired, now you get fired for sneezing the wrong way. Shut up and quit looking for a shoulder to cry on. You make the older generation look like a bunch of whining brats. 

 Name: Unionscrewed E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 21 February 2018 Crews It's been in the union agreements for over 20 years that the company will keep enough people hired to cover vacation days, personal days,scheduled rest days, Dr appts,sick mark off and request for personal business. They have not only constantly ignored this but the union's have done absolutely nothing to put up a good fight. They keeps the extra boards so short knowing people will have off days on the pools and yard jobs that it will be impossible to give anyone a PB day. Then because of shortages they reduce caps and again violate the agreements. Then they run the rosters to find someone to work and the idiots step up and help them out. Money hungry greedy self centered fools that don't realize they are doing nothing but making the situation worse. When one of them want a day off for PB and dont get it they are the first to cry like little b.tches. I can't tell you how many times I have heard one of them say...screw these assholes. This is the last time I ever do them a favor Then they turn around and do it again. the union's are on the way out. They have no fight any more. Just pockets lined with money. They can count on the members not having any balls and kissing the companies ass. They know they won't unite. Fill their pockets and kiss butt. Time to rename the unions. UFPAAK. UNION FOR PROFIT AND ADD KISSERS! I'm tired of paying 1200 bucks a year for this crap. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 February 2018 For those that missed it. https://www.ble-t.org/pr/news/headline.asp?id=48545 More lawsuits to come. Let your manager know he could be next to be sued. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 February 2018 On my 40th year. I was always a heavy hitter. Worked a lot, made a lot of money. Always tried to stay healthy, got my rest whenever able to, tried to get decent exercise. Now as I look at retirement next year, I wonder how I did it? Sooooo many times running trains at high speed drifting in and out of sleep. looking over at the Conductor snoozing away. Dying to get done so I could go sleep. Meeting myself coming and going. And even so after 40 years of this madness, NOBODY of any authority is taking the fatigue problem seriously! Now we have inward facing camera's (reason I no longer work the road) I could never survive in this environment! Anytime I stopped at a Stop Signal, feet went up, laid back, shut my eyes until Conductor alerted me to a better signal. Those little naps are what made the difference. Now you can't even do that anymore. The idiots who run these railroads are not helping us one bit! I have NO SYMPATHY for the carriers when they get sued for millions and lose. They create these unsafe conditions and they fight anyone who tries to address the problems. 

 Name: Carman E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2018 I retired last year from cprail as a carman. It was a great career for thirty five years. My last four years was working with ceo Hh. He destroyed the railway culture, before Hh management and employees got along helped each other and solved problems. The employees under Hh where treated like the enemy. And managers fired you for anything. With creel as ceo trainer by Hh same thing to this day. I watch this site after Hh took over CSX. I have to agree with the last poster that it is just a job now. The old culture is gone and it is not the great job it once was It’s them against us now. Spread sheets profit share value,and employees are just a liability. Companies concerned about work family life balance is gone. We where making headway with that Hh shut it down. You have Foote running the place same shit as Hh different pile. Like I said work save your money don’t go into new det. Watch your back. I don’t think things will change now but , get out of CSX what you can for your benefit. Good luck. I don’t miss it after working for Satan hh. 

 Name: oldstories E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 February 2018 RRJIM Heard them all. All the old heads did when I got hired was talk how they were super humans,,, blah blah. Had 5 mean on the crews. Had a caboose to ride around in . Always had a jug of whiskey. Stayed in old shacks along the way. My personal favorite was stories about taking supervisors who harassed and dogged you out back and strip them down naked and tie them to their cars! Breaking the knee cap days are over. We would be arrested and do jail time now if we thought of doing that. That's why there were a bunch of half drunk has beens out there. Had to have 5 to watch each others drunk asses. we decided as well as the feds that enough was enough. Leave that shit for the prison chain gang. Our health and our families were more important than running around half brain dead and drunk from fatigue. run your ass into the dirt 60 days and then take 4 off. That's not even enough time to recoup your body let alone the fatigue to your mental state. Even if we didn't have off days there is no way in hell this company would let people off. I haven't been able to get a personal business day in over a year. Same shit every time. NOT ENOUGH MANPOWER! That's the problem. They cut the crews to the bone just to use that excuse to keep anyone from taking a day and the unions wont do a damn thing to keep our caps legal and people hired as the union agreement says. These bastards want to go to 1 man crews. You guys would have cried like bitches if they told you that they were sending 3 of your men home. Only needed 2 of you! We have heard every old head story in the world. So what's your point. We don't care anymore. Your retired and you still cant give it up. Get off the computer and take those bag of bones out somewhere and live a normal life if you can. Its in your blood but its not in ours. We just do it cause it pays the bills for now! 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 February 2018 Lostit Welcome to the railroad. You're the first generation to have more rest working the road than in all the railroads history. From assigned rest days to FRA mandated. CSX and all the railroads have found ways to get around the FRA. It's not just CSX. My generation never wanted assigned rest days. We knew once that happened marking off would become a major problem. We weren't the majority anymore so your generation voted it in. Before rest days most of us worked 60-90 days straight then took off 3-4 days no questioned asked. If we needed more time no problem. Doctor appointment or personal business no problem etc.... Once rest days came into play the railroads attitude "do it on your rest days". I understand not knowing what day it is, I knew the date not the day. Being so exhausted adrenaline kicks in after 30 hours being wide awake so you can't sleep. Did that at least twice a week for nearly 40 years. It's part of the job. Like you said it was a big paycheck and that's why we did it for the money. Get some rest do it again. 

 Name: Lostit! E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 February 2018 Railroadfromhell You are absolutely right. I just got done living the nightmare. Wverytime I got close to getting some time off by getting 6 starts they either flipped me on a deadhead or kept me in the hotel just long enough to reset them. Got home and back out on my rest for a solid 3 weeks straight. Yea got big pay check and maybe some rest at hotel but it still plays havoc on your mind. Went through it on extra bd. That almost killed me. Kept losing things. Misplace stuff at home. Forget something if you didn't write it down. Fell asleep behind the wheel driving several times. Can't remember what day of the week it is. They don't give a crap. Just keep calling for a warm body. Refuse to increase boards and keep reducing caps so u can't get days off. Unions don't care. It will take blood on the rails to get something done. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 February 2018 When it gets busy, do your due diligence and follow all safety rules. If you get injured or killed it messes up the people that care about you for the rest of there lives. Don’t let some ass kissing manager push you to the point it becomes unsafe. Just so he can get gradification from his bosses. Think about your families. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 February 2018 When it gets crazy busy like that,and they bring new people in. And the panick is on really watch your back and really take extra precautions. Because some times the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing. And then there ends up being accident or fatality. Cover your ass!!! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 20 February 2018 Willard can't handle any more freight. With the yardmasters now dealing with North Baltimore, Willard, Lordstown and New Castle. They are over worked and there is no help in site. I have yet to see a trainmaster there around the clock usually sharing duties with North Baltimore. Yet New Castle has 3 of them working around the clock. 

 Name: Railroading to hell E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 20 February 2018 I think what people are forgetting is the railroad cause people to work every 10 hours for months at a time and when they fall asleep and kill people look what they're doing about that 

 Name: Ape E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 20 February 2018 Willard gaining freight. Hired more trainmasters and word is posting more yard jobs? Anyone hear anything similar? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 20 February 2018 Signed a waiver for Christmas and then charged for New Years. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 February 2018 When I started on the railway,the cell phone had not been invented yet. And if someone from home had to get ahold of us in an emergency they did. The railway is a fast and dangerous industry. The last thing employees need is another distraction!! If your head is not focused on your work it usally spells disaster. 

 Name: Frequent Flyer HA! E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 20 February 2018 RRJIM Wooooow!!! Didn't mean to raise your blood pressure. I just meant that it seems cell phone frequencies might be interfering with some other frequency the RR is using and shouldn't be. Most cell phones have a video camera. Certain CSX don't want some things filmed. 

 Name: Imlovenit E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 February 2018 Every time I read this part it puts a smile across my face. CSX's chief medical officer, Dr. Craig S. Heligman, and several other supervisors and managers are included in the suit, which seeks back pay and multiple other damages to be determined in court. Attorneys for the plaintiffs also demanded a trial by jury. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 February 2018 I think what everyone is forgetting here is that an engineer that was texting cost a lot of people to lose there lives. So a law was passed forbidding the use of cell phones in the transportation industry. They have done studies that people that text a lot and use social media, that the pleasure centre of the brain is addicted to cell phones. Main in younger people. They even take there phones to bed,and go into physical withdrawal if they do not have the use of there phones. Having a phone in your posetion and turned off,drive a lot of people crazy. Because they feel they are missing out on important messages,distracted driving death has now serpassed impaired driving deaths. In Asian countries parents have sent there kids to treatment centres for addiction to cell phones computers etc. These kids get physical sick and distrot and have even committed suicide from not having these divices. So I don’t think it would be smart to be parked in a siding at night or day and walk. Around the front of a train and get hit by train next to yours. It has happened in the past and will again in the future. There will always be people that will brake the rules,and in a lot of cases it costs lives. 

 Name: FREQUENT FLYER E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 20 February 2018 RRJIM Are you kidding... Really comparing a train to a plain in the air. Not only have a seen someone on their phone every single trip I have flown but I have seen many of many fly attendants look at them and just keep walking. I personally asked a pilot about this and he said it was a chance in a million a cell phone would interfere with the planes ability to function properly. The cell phone rule only became in effect after someone was not paying attention to their job. The phone had nothing to do with dropping signals, not paying attention and missing a signal indication or another hazard because someone was on their phone talking instead of paying attention. There is no reason in hell that someone can not be sitting on a train stopped and waiting and not be able to use their cell phone. If you can use a company cell phone then why in the hell could you not use your own. what is the difference? Different spy model they use? Have their own Nasa towers? This is just bullshit and went to the extreme because they had a few dumb asses who were on their phone instead of doing their job. Put cameras in all the cabs and a cell phone detector. Real simple. If the train Is moving it should be set up to go off if it picks up a signal in the cab. If they got questions they can download and view the cameras. They are here to stay. All those claims crew members put in for years for those cameras being installed was a big waste of time and the Unions knew they were never going to be able to put a stop to it. Just blew smoke up the members asses to keep them happy and make them think they gave a shit. If I was a crew member and had a situation at home that needed attention and I was stuck out on the road, I wouldn't hesitate one minute to get off and walk 25 feet away. Find a nice place to sit and if it was cold as hell and sleeting I would ask the dispatcher if he had to stop me could it be somewhere that I could get in some shelter cause you need to get ahold of your family and you have to get off the train to do it. Sure he'll laugh his head off but throw it out there. You got nothing to lose! Oh, and I got a friend that works a local and says the TM's blow his phone up all day wanting to know where he is and what's he doing and wants an update constantly. Wouldn't turn it on at first but then management teased him for being a chicken shit for not checking his phone! Told him to tell the company to get him a company phone and tell them he'll be answering on the job all day but he wasn't using his own! Bunch of losers! 

 Name: Fact E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 20 February 2018 Do you know why the RR is screwing your eyeballs out? Do you want to know why the union doesn't care anymore? Answers. Because you idiots will not stick together .!!!! You people are your worse enemy. You just will not stick together. Signing a waivers are no good. Go to a board.!!!! Trust me..!!!! But, if you are guilty of doing something or feel that it was your fault then sign a waiver... 9 times out of 10 it's the companies fault. 

 Name: UP Hoyt Monroe E-mail: employees@up.com Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for 20-30 years Posted: 20 February 2018 We all thought that Roger Lambeth would be selected as Vice President for the Western Region. And now this indicates that management is no longer turning a blind eye to incompetence, especially with all the groping claims in St. Charles, is surfacing...! KARMA 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 20 February 2018 Re: RRJIM Why can't you use your cell phone take off and landing an air plane? Try frequency interference. Might want to reconsider the RR and FRA motive. 

 Name: T E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 February 2018 Cell Phones are prohibited must be 25 ft from rail. Can't use for business or personnel. If the phone is company provided it can be used for company buisness. Inside the cab. 

 Name: UP E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 20 February 2018 RRJIM Might not be UP but the post was correct. They do allow personal use if the call in minimum use on a stopped train and no duties are required at the time or any safety issues are present and the phone is stored after the call is done. If it was a strict federal law that no personal use was allowed while on the train then all railroads would have to follow the law. Csx has done its usual maniac out of control crap to dominate its employees every breath. I Read some of their rules. Cant read any material that is not related to railroad work while you are on duty? What kind of horse shit is that. Im stopped in a siding for an hour you can bet your ass Im reading my guns magazine or outdoor mag while Im waiting. The list goes on with that horse shit company. They hired on the wrong railroad! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 20 February 2018 Anyone got letters to return to work since fmla investigation or just get termination letter. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 February 2018 TECH This is a CSX site not UP. CSX might of changed the rules. I doubt it. I know there were some exceptions like if a train is stopped one could get off the train, off the tracks an use it for personal matters. There is a FRA Special Order that prohibits PERSONAL use of cellphones. If any railroad permits any electronic device for railroad operations then that's not PERSONAL USE. So, the key issue is PERSONAL USE. Got it!!!!! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 20 February 2018 What's up Louisville? Ford, Jim Beam, Heaven Hill, and Wild Turkey are all hiring right now. Better get it while the getting is good! Check job listings on google. CSX sucks and it aint getting better, lets just all leave, LOL. 

 Name: tech E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 February 2018 RRJIM It has not been illegal to use cell phones on trains for years. What has been illegal is the type of use that you are using the cell phone for. Take the UP railroad for example. They allow use on their trains as long as there is no safety related situations which includes while the train is moving, a crew member is on the ground or on moving equipment or any rr employee is assisting in preparation of the train or engine. May be used for voice communication in the cab as long as the device is turned off and stowed away after the call is completed. In a crew room for voice communication OR to update rules, documents.etc... An electronic device may be used for text/internet in a crew room when all job related duties have been completed.. Harrison was a complete control freak and pushed the rules way beyond the limits including no use of cell phones in a crew room while on duty.. No one was going to take him seriously anyway. TMs had been blowing up crew members phones on local jobs before he took over and well after. Cant get a dispatcher on the radio , call them. Cant get paperwork call the workorder department. Cant fix the TO call them. Cant fix the PTC call them. Cant get a straight answer on clearance bureau paperwork that is missing, call them. The list goes on and on. Phones will never be removed. What has been under review is the type of use and when exactly it is safe to use it. Sitting in a siding for 2 hours waiting for a signal at 3am in the morning is a good example of when a crew member should be able to use his cell phone. Absolutely no safety issues should exist here. It was bad enough HH did away with all napping. Under these circumstance not only should someone be able to take a nap but it should be assumed that it will happen. With cameras in the cabs, it is real easy to see on the down load when someone is using a cell phone during the wrong times. People will hang themselves. There is no use in penalizing everyone because of a few idiots. That's what the cameras are for. Something stupid happens then download them. Teach people that you better be paying attention at the right times. If we download you and catch you improperly using your phone you'll get your walking papers. 

 Name: Wood E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 February 2018 The officer conducting my hearing was a prick. He made me out to be a criminal. I want him and that person on the phone listed on my lawsuit. I think Foote should be held liable too. This outrage is going to cost CSX and their henchman dearly. 

 Name: U2 E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 19 February 2018 My favorite part is where the individual managers are being sued alongside the company. Let that be a warning to ALL supervisors and HR personnel you will be held accountable for your actions. You are not above the laws of the land and you cannot hide behind your job. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 February 2018 It's been illegal under federal law to use a cellphone onboard trains for years. I know people still do it. Getting caught is a risk they'll have to take. Before I retired nearly 8 years ago a company officer could ask to see cellphones. They had to be off and put away in the grip. Whether they could ask to see the content that's another issue. 

 Name: Wondering E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 February 2018 What’s the website Getsome? Is it Getsome.com, Getsome.gov? What is it? Name: U2 E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 February 2018 Download the PDF and Read the complaint filed by former CSX employees on the site GetSome posted. This shows what sort of madmen we are dealing with. Also even the the officer holding the kangaroo court is being sued. Great po 

 Name: Legal E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 February 2018 T&E Rumors are circulating that a group of supervisors( hit squad) boarded a train and demanded the crew members take out their cell phones and turn them on so they could view the phone calls or text messages that were sent or received during the crew members on duty time. If this happens before you do anything you need to advice the supervisor that per FRA and other laws, they must first have a filed and legit subpoena to view your personal phone records. If they insist on viewing your phone do not argue with them or you will risk insubordination charges. If your engine has a newly installed cell phone detector on it, there is a good chance you will receive a hit when you turn it on. Immediately contact your FRA inspector for operating rules as well as your mechanical. You will also need to let your Union Representatives know. File a charge with your ethics committee. Do it as soon as you are able to do so without compromising your job. This is not a laughing matter and should not be treated as such. This kind of blatant disrespect for privacy as well as federal laws is not acceptable. 

 Name: Monitor E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 February 2018 L&N Send a request to Atom Smasher. He can let you know locations of the servers used now and used in the past. Yes, there are pines posers on here. Just don't respond to it... 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 February 2018 So the first grade math for railroading for dummies Name: L&N dispr Wrong way. 1. Open main track switch --move wares across main track switch---park wares in staging are. 2. Close main track switch after parking wares. 3. Open main track switch when wares go bye-bye Right way 1. Open main track switch when wares go bye-bye because the staging area is on the same side of the main as the business. 67% less switch activity to go wrong--67% less back injuries-- Jens L@N Mommy, mommy we went swimming at school today and I was the only one with back hair--Does that mean I'm getting smarter mommy? Mommy No Jens L@N --That's because your 23. 

 Name: U2 E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 February 2018 Download the PDF and Read the complaint filed by former CSX employees on the site GetSome posted. This shows what sort of madmen we are dealing with. Also even the the officer holding the kangaroo court is being sued. Great post GetSome I'd urge all to read. 

 Name: L&N dispr E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years Posted: 18 February 2018 Monitor: I promise you, there is only one pines posting. No two people can be that deranged. Trust me, he has not goated me in to anything. He is his own worst enemy. Nobody takes him serious and just laughs at him ... He is NOTHING but a big baffoon. 

 Name: GetSome E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 February 2018 CSX's chief medical officer, Dr. Craig S. Heligman, and several other supervisors and managers are included in the suit, which seeks back pay and multiple other damages to be determined in court. Attorneys for the plaintiffs also demanded a trial by jury. 

 Name: GetSome E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 February 2018 http://www.herald-dispatch.com/news/former-workers-file-lawsuit-against-csx/article_562d9397-6479-5bb7-ae39-9737521af490.html Check out the part where supervisors and the medical officer is listed as defendants in the lawsuit I hope these union brothers get every penny they deserve. You can't break federal law and get away with it. I bet CSX will turn their backs on these managers. 

 Name: monitor E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 February 2018 L&N Just ignore him! Don't let him goat you. The old pines had you going for a long time. This one has played you in the past and had you eating out of his hands. Anytime you give him a response it just feeds his illness. Let him rant. If he continues any filth like in the past week he will have his post removed. It has already been done to send him a message. Webmaster wont tolerate it! 

 Name: D MAN E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 February 2018 Thanks for the about out Top hat, holla back 

 Name: L&N dispr E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years Posted: 18 February 2018 Just look at the question pines ask.. It is totally incoherent and makes no sense at all. " business side, and disturb main tk". Just what the hell does that mean, it is just rambling. 

 Name: PC E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 February 2018 L&N This poster is not our beloved pines. The webmaster has kept track of the servers and types of devices used. This is just a wack job using his name. Best to just ignore him. If he is dangerous he can't hurt anyone with the keyboard. 

 Name: Tophat E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 February 2018 D Man You a silly bitch 

 Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 17 February 2018 be after reveiw that i be within my parameters. I got the ptsd. they be knowen they cant be winning no trial. they still be getting that ass sued believe that. 

 Name: L&N dispr E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years Posted: 17 February 2018 Re: rail Robert Pines is a very disturbed individual. If you pull up his mug shot you can tell in his eyes that he clearly not all there. His picture resembles many of the same characteristics of some of the school shooters. I think he is in need of a psychiatric evaluation. He constant rambling, lying and insane rants prove that he is a very sick person. His inability to understand simple physics is scary... He thinks an engine needs a steering wheel, air bags and a breaking system that should allow a 12000 ton coal train to stop on a dime. He does not understand rules, regulations, or laws pertaining to the railroad. Hopefully a family member will recognize his unstable mental state and get him help...That or the FBI needs to interview him before he goes on a shooting rampage targeting rail employees. The signs are all there. We don't need ANOTHER sicko to slip through our fingers... 

 Name: Rail E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 February 2018 Atom smasher No one seems to know how to get to this poser pie hole pines and choke him out. Can't you just block him or remove his post as soon as he hits the submit button? He's a grade a loser. Wack job! 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 February 2018 Well Cindy Sanborn will meet Jens Bang L@N Dispatcher and fall deeply in luv since Omaha is a lot closer to Idaho than Jacksonville. They will both be in the stupid looking RR hats and have on square toe boots at the wedding with Johnny Cash singing in the background with a train bell clanging "I've been wanting to work on the railroad". Jens momma will be throwing railroad spikes as rice. Then L@N Jens will sweep Cindy off her feet and ride off in circles on his tinker toy train heading to foamer land. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2018/02/16/in-the-wake-of-fatal-amtrak-crash-ntsb-issues-urgent-safety-recommendation/?utm_term=.bf2c3827d7af So these safety regulations in effect from 1867 don't say --"""dumb ass railroads don't have the staging area on the opposite side of the business which causes the main track to be disturbed.How come? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 February 2018 Cindy likes the terrible idea of dp trains so maybe expect that. It didn't work to well at csx 

 Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 17 February 2018 Got chopped now be going back. Where be my lost monies mofos. Gots to feed Trex and I need new shoes. Don't won't to be back. Still be getting that's ass sued you can believe that. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 February 2018 Hey all, Cindy Sanborn took over yesterday here on the UP as regional Vice President. Any thoughts on what we can expect from her in the future. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 February 2018 CSX: From first to worst. 

 Name: loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 16 February 2018 Engineer less than1 Air brake and train handling rule 5655.1 Locomotive operators must have a blank copy of the train separation report and the train stall report before beginning a trip or tour of duty. 5655.2 When a train that you are operating has a separation or stalls, complete and forward the appropriate report to the road foreman of engines as soon as possible. Now that CSX has done away with the Road foreman and have replaced them with Trainmasters it is not possible to follow this rule as it is written. Greatlakes division had a road foreman of engines who's office was located in Indianapolis but that job was abolished. There is supposed to be someone who has been appointed to over see the operations of engines and engineers. I do not know who that is but now that you have brought this question forward I will definitely start asking questions. In the meantime I would just give it to a TM and tell him to forward it to the proper department. You are correct about there only being one form available on the gateway. The only one I could find was the stall. I haven't seen anything in the rules about a low fuel report having to be carried. If you cant find the reports it is up to a supervisor to supply them. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 February 2018 Judging by the flood of illiterate posts, it’s definitely Friday. 

 Name: engineer E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 February 2018 Engineers/hoggers..... Can anyone tell me where it is in writing that we have to carry a stall, separation and low fuel report on us or we are subject to discipline. I cant find it. Also I went to the employee gateway and went to the engineer read file for the greatlakes division and the only report they have on there that you can copy is the stall. Where else are these reports supposed to be so we can copy them. This is getting to be a real pain in the butt with this company. Cant find this rule or that rule. Rules are missing and not republished since this new Harrison crew took over and changed the format of everything. Don't know about you but this is just plain horse crap and an unprofessional way to run a business. 

 Name: cindgoneloco E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 February 2018 RRJIM You got it right man and that TM poster can stick it up his uneducated arss. I just love it how a stupid TM doesn't pay attention to his YM and builds a train with all the lightweight empties on the head end and all the heavies on the rear. Then sticks heavy tankers in between auto racks cars and empty long flats between heavy loads. Then you got trains now that are 16000 tons and 14000 feet long and the tele's wont communicate, the engines throw ground relays and the bastards stall and they want to blow it up your arss for their stupidity. Then you got the TM who lets his YM build a local with the blocks sprayed all through it and you got to flat switch it out half the day cherry picking your cars. Industry leaves cars in the wrong place or move their cars and sets them off of spot. You get an extra board guy who is called extra to do work because you cant get it done in a day because your cherry picking cars and he sets off in the wrong tracks or blocks your normal tracks you use or what ever he can think of to add and extra 2 hours to your switch. Railroading is not rocket science but neither is being a TM who does the same repetitive crap. Job is to get trains built and out of his yard. Same crap everyday. Over see the same damn trains on line of road doing the same damn thing. Just as repetitive. Only difference is we are the backbone, we move it and we make the company the money. We fix the workorders, trouble shoot our power. We come up with plans of actions when our trains are sprayed or not blocked properly. When picking up and setting off on line of road we make sure we have a good head end or don't pair up bad hazmats. We adjust and adapt to all situations. We cram a square peg in a round hole if we have to make it fit. Repair air hoses and lines. Change out knuckles. Rig up hoses and do what is necessary to keep the freight moving. Snow, sleet, rain, 110 heat index. We endure. We're in the trench blue collar railroaders and god damn proud of it! 

 Name: D E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 February 2018 Trainmaster/sup. Is a fucking moron u dip shits run around chasing ur tails and trying to put out fires u all started, if it wasn't for us t&e guys and gals, u wouldn't even know what to tell us to do, get ur overblown head outta ur ass 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 February 2018 Minor variables in your day to day routine doesn't mean no two days are alike. No two days are exactly the same but that's it. I can't say my drive to work is dramatically different every day for 20 years because the leaves are a different color in summer and fall. Any moron can do any job at the railroad period, it doesn't take brains to do the work if the work is about the same everyday. I'm not saying anyone at the railroad is a moron, but being a railroaders doesn't mean you are smart. At the railroad most decisions are made for you, you do what you are told and that's it. If you can follow instructions and rules, you got it. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 February 2018 Name: L&N dispr your screwed up as usual you little Idaho potato nuttin. Prices are set by ownership. $100,000 loan scared me off way back when. Big mistake. CATV is the biggest ponzi scheme ever. This owner buys this owner who has to jack prices up from profits paid to the old owner who had fake subscriber-ship X10 in most places. Let's see$7 a box recovery times 25 at a large apartment complex plus a couple dozen more a day plus all the other wasn't a bad day. Sales I quit at $1,000 day which was 3 hours a lot of times. But then they have designs made and buy the equipment from the designer who has the most equipment possible for the area jacking up prices from their supplier kinda like the fool railroads do on PTC. Always remember ---Illegal cable keeps crime rates down.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 February 2018 brakeman 1-10 The nearly 40 years working for the railroad no two days were alike. Every train I ran as a locomotive engineer was different from train make-up to the scenery on the route. Maybe if you stayed awake you might of seen it.   Name: L&N dispr E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years Posted: 15 February 2018 Pines, shut up grownups are posting.I wish you would go out and protest in the middle of a track one day... Did your parents have any children that lived. Now go install a cable box somewhere , my little cable boy... And then charge the customer 400 bucks for an$4 box.. Talk about screwing the public.. 

 Name: Understand E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 February 2018 Make No mistake. Our Trainmasters are low level management with big egos that are wanting to be the next CEO. Understand you are a piss ant that NEVER will be anything but a escape goat for the company. You are a puppet that makes horrible decisions when left alone. You and only you create bad attuides among the men and women that you try to supervise. You are a boy in a mans world, you are a baby holding a gun, think twice before you try to take a employees job. Learn your place. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 February 2018 Just a derailment of a NS freight in Attica New york, multiple cars and fuel, Engineers and conductor sent to the hospital. Engines down and Embankment, black smoke all over.... 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 February 2018 Name: L&N dispr E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years Posted: 15 February 2018 Re: brakeman Saying any moron can work at the railroad is quite presumptuous of you. Shoulda said "look at me-- a 45 year wanna me that never even seen the inside of a railroad office much less worked for a RR" huh L@N? Foam you foamers foam. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 February 2018 Two articles... As CSX workforce shrinks, accidents pile up and morale plummets https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/02/14/as-csx-workforce-shrinks-accidents-pile-up-and.html CSX: From first to worst https://www.railwayage.com/news/csxfrom-first-worst/ 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 February 2018 It's funny how Tucker challenges the claim that employee moral is at a all time low. Just shows you how out of touch and unfit they are for their jobs. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 February 2018 Need to get this out to : https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/02/14/as-csx-workforce-shrinks-accidents-pile-up-and.html 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 February 2018 One thing shareholders management bean counter all forget. If the employees don’t move the trains the whole show stops. I do think it is just a big sell off of equipment and CSX assets for a big payday to share holders and upper management. Look what Hh took out of CSX and got nothing in return. Employees can’t stop this,and are just going to hope that they still have employment after the raiders have gone. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 February 2018 We are the same contracted employees across all class 1 railroads. One thing is different and that's management. I just want to say congratulations to Csx management for leading the way in train accidents, deterating customer service and a new all time low for employee moral. 

 Name: L&N dispr E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years Posted: 15 February 2018 Re: brakeman Saying any moron can work at the railroad is quite presumptuous of you. A lot of the younger dispatchers now all have college degrees. The railroad is not for everyone. But I can promise you this.. If your azz gets in a bind in the middle of nowhere, who do you want with you? The old head with 35 years of experience and knowledge or your 25 year old drinking buddy with you. Because that is when school really begins. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 February 2018 I quit the railroad to work for 16.50/hr and I bring home about what I was at the RR. My union dues are like 32 a month, insurance is 100% free, I have a pension plan, and life is good. The pay at the RR is deceptive, it sounds good but once everyone gets their piece of your check its not as good as it sounds. 16.50/hr and my bring home is close, we get a raise every year and and top out at 39/hr after 7 years. I have no education past high school. I'm just letting everyone know that anyone can get out of the rr, it's not that great and there are plenty of good jobs that pay like the rr. 

 Name: Great lakes E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 February 2018 Calling people back today. In new castle, they just furloughed 2 guys almost 2 weeks ago, and now they're calling 6 back today. Makes sense to me. I don't see why they need anyone anyways, there's not much work right now. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 February 2018 A moron can work at the railroad, morons do work at the railroad. The railroad doesn't require you to think, period! Railroad work is repetition, you do the same few things all day everyday. Once a guy has held the same job for a while that is all he knows, he cant work other jobs very efficiently. There are guys with 15+ years in that can only do 1 job. An older head once told me running around your cars is the same as spinning your train, I had to explain that one to him. I'm not saying he's dumb, I'm just saying that he has worked the same job for so long that he never has to make that move. 

 Name: Educated E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 February 2018 Ape.... I hope that comment of "no education" meant a college degree because if it didn't then I'm thouroughly offended by it. Even though I only did a few years in college which served me no use I like to think I was just as educated before I went. Do not mislead the public. Until this years changes we were all required to do continuous education on the job. Pod testing, face to face testing, simulator testing,and constant changes in rules and updating our railroad "school books". No different than a teacher's continuous education. Let's not forget our constantly fixing the problems created by management and the numerous phone calls we make to fix paperwork problems. We are all skilled in math as we deal with numbers all day every day. We are clerks when we have to call Jacksonville to correct workorders or payroll to explain the errors they have made. some may look like they have no grammar skills when posting on this site but we read our bulletins,workorders and scour our paperwork for potential errors. We know our hazmat rules and we are just plain DAMN SMART PEOPLE. Did you know many colleges offer a degree in transportation? I got mine out here! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 February 2018 When you have an Amtrak train full of politicians, that hits a vehicle and kills driver. And then another amtrack accident where crew is killed etc. If that’s not a wake up call to rail safety,then I feel nothing will be. Go to work get every penny you can for working. In the end of this take over ,you will find out what you end up with. Guys say they want to look for new job. But there are not many jobs out there that pay as good as the railway with no education. I did my 35 years on the railway. I was lucky I made it to retirement. Lived threw all these changes,and just went to work every day and did my job went home. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 February 2018 People get killed every year by trains it gets its 2 minutes on the news. Thousands are killed every year buy gun violence. And the goverment makes gun laws even more laxed. A few job cuts and sell off of railway property and equipment,really only impacts the workers. The public at large is really not affected. It might be a story one day forgotten the next !!!!!! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 February 2018 Your wasting your time going to media etc. We did all that in Canada. 47 people where burnt to death. At the end of it no one is accountable. A few dollars changed hands. And the railways do what they want when they want . Money talks bullshit walks. Maybe in USA your goverment holds big companies accountable more than than in Canada. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 February 2018 And the stock is bullish,from all the cuts. The negative from these cuts will not be notice. Until law suits from Amtrak crew deaths and injuries are out in the courts. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 February 2018 I read 2 articles this morning that are exposing CSX cut backs and downsizing of the workforce. One article even included unnamed employees discussing the deteriorating morale. It still needs to get out to the general public and not in just the business sections. I most likely wouldn't of seen them if I hadn't went to the financial section to check on my stocks. 

 Name: Micheal Ward E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 February 2018 Here it is.... The Union is dead. You can't strike, sick-outs don't work. The Union is done, UTU and BLE both. Take what they give! if anything. CSX Railroad is not what it use to be, it will be gone soon. Only hope, is a merger from another big RR out West, maybe get their offer. Just hold on for now. This place is done. Bickering on here, will not help. Just take the dry fucking until this bunch gets their profits, then wait for the new guys to take over!!! Better days ahead??? 

 Name: Monitor E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 February 2018 Pines poser We're all onto you. Even the webmaster. At least the real pines wasn't a parasite. If your so disgusted with this site why don't you move on. 

 Name: Dman E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 14 February 2018 https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/17/15290674/union-labor-movement-europe-bargaining-fight-15-ghent 

 Name: Retired Now E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 14 February 2018 RR people are too hard on "foamers". (I worked in the area(s) where that term originated & was 1st heard.) A few may be a PITA but most are just historians, hobbyists, rail fans, train nuts, etc. & don't mean to be or want to be, any trouble. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 February 2018 CSX-SUCKS ---Official foamer site for foamers who are happy as hogs wallowing in their own shit. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 February 2018 Weakening our Union? Wake up and smell the ashes. 

 Name: lville cutback eng forced rco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 February 2018 gee, ur such a crybaby, stop lookin at the boards so much and go do some work. like ive said before, not stepping up or taking calls isnt going to get anyone back or anyone marked up any faster. so quit your whining. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 February 2018 Once again we got some sukkas in Louisville bending over backwards for the company and making sure those layed off don't come back, those cutback don't mark up, and weakening our union. Thanks Staley and Jones! 

 Name: Carman E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 14 February 2018 I watched the gong show working with ceo Hh. Foote as ceo is just a bandage solution from Hh death. They empower these low line managers just to shake things up. The hard ball approach with employees. One thing about the railway is there are rules and regulations in every department. And union employees can hold the company responsible to follow all procedures safely. The company hates it because it takes time to do your due diligence. The employees that take short cuts think there doing the company a big favour and will be repayed some how “NOT”. The employees that do there job safely by the book are looked at as shit disturbers. With all the attention from train accidents where there have been loss of life. The ones that are going to be investigated for laxed safety procedures,are going to pay the price. I would rather get pulled out of service by doing my job safely. Than being pulled out of service for not properly doing my job. This is all going to come to ahead with managers telling employees to take short cuts and braking rules. When they have investigations because of a mishap,stupidity is no defence. Plug away sooner or later Foote and gang will be gone. 

 Name: Understand E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 14 February 2018 Make No mistake. Our Trainmasters are low level management with big egos that are wanting to be the next CEO. Understand you are a piss ant that NEVER will be anything but a escape goat for the company. You are a puppet that makes horrible decisions when left alone. You and only you create bad attuides among the men and women that you try to supervise. You are a boy in a mans world, you are a baby holding a gun, think twice before you try to take a employees job. Learn your place. 

 Name: cond. E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 February 2018 Carman You are right on point with that one on Harrison. He was nothing but a little boy in a mans body with a control freak issues. Look at the UP rules on the cell phones and cameras. Nothing like CSX. IF he said his way was the FRA way he was a damn liar. Not only can you use cell phones when stopped in the cab but you can use a stand alone camera to take picture of safety hazards as long as you put the camera away when your don't. CSX is scared to death of someone taking pictures for proof of unsafe conditions. Its a sad company that doesn't want to own up to it issues! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 February 2018 The bullshit I read on this site... 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 14 February 2018 Whoever made the comment about females, you can shut up. I am a male and I have seen female conductors that would run most males in the ground. I have seen males that don't have a freaking clue. I seen a guy get on top of an rco engine and ride it like a surf board just to be funny, that's the kind of immature behavior that doesn't belong at the railroad. Male or female, in great shape or horrible shape, it don't matter. Railroading is more mental than anything, a smart conductor with a good work ethic trumps everything else and I have seen out of shape females out smart and out railroad a lot of fit males. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 February 2018 New conductor https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fUyU3lKzoio# 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 February 2018 I was parked in the truck waiting for new conductor to back his train into the track. He told the hogger to back up. And the hogger give the throttle shit. The new conductor had his hoody up and walking facing the movement. With cars coming up behind him I could see he was walking to close to the track. I honked the horn. Got out of the truck screaming at him waving my arms. He just looked down at the ground. When the box car made contact with the left side of his body it threw him like a rag doll away from the track. The hogger stopped must of figured something was wrong and stopped. I got to the conductor he was laying on down he ground out cold. Called ambulance he was busted up pretty good. He just did not use common sense. He never worked again. 

 Name: Carman E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 February 2018 It has been mentioned on here about over weight employees. There have been lots of studies on shift work and health problems. Weight gain is one of the issues. When a persons sleep patterns are messed up. Myself when I worked midnight shift,I lived on Roland’s like many other s did. Once I retired and had a normal sleep schedule my heath issues went away. For a employees personal safety and safety of others. I would take that reviving nap while parked in siding. I would let them fire me if they seen on the camera. Then challenge the company medically. I’m sure CSX would loose that one. Hh just suspended naps because he was a sadist. 

 Name: Carman E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 February 2018 Well it is just not lifting a knuckle,you also have to know how to change it. We have had people hire on the mechanical dept. they pass the written tests but have o mechanical ability. I think when some of they people hire on as trainmen. They think they will just be waving at people riding the rails. But people cover for a lot of these people and once they get there probation period in , the people are stuck with them. Each generation is getting softer and softer. Inept people are the ones that get hurt and get others hurt in a lot of cases. Some don’t even pick things up after working for over a year. I ended up changing 10 pair of wheels on coal train because stupid conductor forgot to take handbrakes off. 

 Name: female E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 February 2018 APE 1 When I was hired and went to conductor school we had real old heads as instructors. And I mean OLD! Instead of retiring they wanted to teach. They wheeled a cart with a knuckle on it in front of the class. They had everyone walk up to the front of the room and lift the knuckle one foot off of the cart. They said that was all they need to see. Quoted the CSX rule that no one was to use brute force on anything and if something was to heavy or something wasn't able to be fixed with reasonable force that we were supposed to request help. They showed us how to put a knuckle in but not a single one of us actually did it. We heard rumors later that the company was afraid if any of us got hurt while in school there would be a law suit. We all guessed that's why it went down the way it did. Yes, not all women are capable of lifting heavy knuckles, but not all 300 overweight guys are capable of riding the side of a car for 5 miles if need be. I have changed knuckles and used sledge hammers to get the job done. Your right. Not everyone is a good fit for the job, but then if they aren't why does the company pass them and send them to the field? How many time have you worked with someone and asked yourself... how did this guy every pass the school? Government grants? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 February 2018 Before you leave the yard make sure all paper work is in order. That you have calibration and air braves are pumped right up.make sure you check crew to crew and everything is in order. Etc. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 February 2018 Gotta love this site. RR folks do not know how to select a topic to comment on. they are all the same??????? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 February 2018 There are employees that are just at the railway taking up space. They like the money and perks,benefits etc. They abuse fmla good gig till they get caught. And then fired,some of these people that slipped threw the cracks. Are more suited in the retail sector like McDonald’s. I work with some women that can’t lift a knuckle and play the girl card to get heavy lifting done for them. Some people are just not a good fit for railway life. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 February 2018 When are the unions going to earn the respect of their paying members. Why pay for nothing every month, and do that for years and years. Must be the Railroad say's you have to, and the Union say's you have to so--- you do. That my friends is not smart. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 February 2018 Barlow How do you know he was taken off more than his approval? So what if he did. It's an estimate. 

 Name: Barlow Sims E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 February 2018 Boy the fmla noise sure has calmed down, only guy i know if thats terminated used mire than twice his prescribed time. This dude is crying on Fbook, telling some sob bs story to anybody who will listen. Brothers this is here to protect us all from the company in a time of need and must not be abused. 

 Name: Monitor E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 February 2018 Disgusted Your wish is our command. As you can see the filth has been removed Ape, I do work for the railroad and you may think that its okay to have a filthy vile mouth but not all of us on the rails agree. It is bad enough that the nasty reputation of past railroaders follows us everywhere when if fact it is not all true. Yes, we do work with some who have no regard for cleanliness and tact but not all of us are that way and hate that we are stereotyped because of them. This site was meant to be a place that we could all come and vent about the treatment we receive and problems we face on a daily basis. A place to brainstorm and report and to help others with obstacles they are facing. It was never meant to be a place for wack jobs to post irrelevant filth. Thumbs up to Atom Smasher! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 February 2018 Disgusted, you obviously don't work for the railroad if that bothers you lol, pansy 

 Name: disgusted E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 February 2018 Atom Smasher Please review the previous post under the heading Robert Pines. They are pure filth and obviously based on some deep seated anger and illness. We don't need that on this site. Can you please remove them? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 February 2018 2 Sukkas in Louisville again today taking calls they don't have to. Thanks union brothers. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 12 February 2018 Mugshots.com ID: 69908027 Robert Pines occupation cable installer and convicted felon... Age: 60 Home Address: Sullivan Arrest Date: 11/21/2013 Info: was arrested on the charge of Tampering With a Witness. A warrant was issued and he remains in custody. 

 Name: D MAN E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 February 2018 Retired. I try to help and i try to keep a level head, im a member ofb the utu the other union is just fine, but i was told a while back by an old head that is now gone to stick with my craft, so thats my solitary and i try to be as helpful as i can, but i also am pissed about a lot of things and think tje GC could do more, we r just trying to take baby steps and organize our local before we can accomplish anything greater. 

 Name: Retired Now E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 12 February 2018 Cond 10-20: You ever any help? Think the other organization will really\truly want ya? Sometimes, 10% of the membership can/may cause 90% of the hassles. People switch over - then switch again...... Usually better off with PITA members leaving. Adios. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 February 2018 Most of the time when you change unions. It is just a change of jackets and logos.what you have to do is vote people out that you feel are sitting on there hands. I know that the speed a company is changing the rules. It takes time time to catch up and deal with issues.And the company does not want to bargain in good faith. It’s there way or the highway. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 February 2018 Time to hold the utu accountable. They either start working for us and do something tangible or we all switch unions. Let's give them till June or we all switch. 

 Name: D MAN E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 February 2018 Guys i know everyone has reasons for taking calls and doin what they need to do weather it be to say out of a yard u dont know well, or just work somthing ur more comfortable with. But this is dividing and conquering at its finest, i am a conductor and will stand with any engineer when it comes to standing up for and fighting for better conditions and rules, and i cant say i dont know of any engineers that wouldnt do the same. Stay focused, Stand together on our one uniting issue, being uprooted over worked and misused, never forget we are trained professionals, that do what most normal people can not, it takes a railroader to understand that, to any non railroader no offense to ur profession u just cant understand. We stand side by side wacth each others backs we see each other more than our familys most of the time, we fight and get pissed but still get the work done together. Mis placed energy will be waisted vent bicth and yell get it out and then step back and lets roll on together. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 12 February 2018 Yes you will pull into the terminal,a manager will download the locomotive to see if you where playing games to delay getting into town. You will get off and go switching in the yard till your time is up. What the company wants is bang for there buck. And if your caught leaving the property one minute before your time is up your fired. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 February 2018 Its going to work because our unions are worthless and don't stand for anything ever. Ive been doing this for 24 years and i can tell you that csx will do what it wants no matter what, the unions don't have a say period. They put on a good show to make it look like they are earning their dues money but in reality it is all show, the company will have its way. Even with firings the union is not why you get your job back, you get your job back because the company doesnt want to pay to replace employees every week. Imagine the employee turnover if when someone got fired that was it. It's all for show folks! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 February 2018 How's all of that going to work? National Agreement - no work rule changes - only 10 or so weeks old. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 12 February 2018 They made those chang s at cn cp. they being doing it for five years now. 

 Name: Reality E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 February 2018 Ape Not going to matter. The super pools are coming. Exb will be a thing of the past. Be no distinction between yard and road jobs. Only problem will be getting everyone remote qualified unless Foote does away with them. It's coming. With hourly rate there will be no trip rates or job limits. You will go anywhere and everywhere for 12 hours. Use you like a step and fetch dog. Might handle a road train, jump on a local then finish up in the yard. It's coming. Watch. Union's will be right on board with it. If your a train rider you better get in shape. Your days of riding the rails are coming to an end. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 February 2018 With the changes that csx has gone through and will go through, anyone that does anymore than bare minimum shame on you. If you take calls that you don't have to, shame on you. We need to preserve what we have and helping the company is not the way right now. You don't have to work any assignment that is not covered by what your board is responsible for. 

 Name: Lol E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 11 February 2018 Train the office guys to operate the trains. What office guys? There is no one left. Are trainmasters are here one day and gone the next. I don't know who my current manager is. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 February 2018 https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/10/railroad-safety-agency-chief-resigns-heath-hall-402093 Top official departs ‘rudderless’ railroad safety agency ‘rudderless’ Hmmm That would be a good name for this safety thread. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 February 2018 Has anyone on here been put back too work since investigation for fmla misuse. 

 Name: lville cutback eng forced rco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 February 2018 I still dont know why all these crybabies keep crying ab cutback eng taking calls in lville, listen, nothing is going to make them add more turns back for engineers, just because people refuse to step up doesnt mean the company is going to all of a sudden freak and decide to add turns. If anything we need to take the eng calls, step up and protect the work that we do have. if we dont, then they will just run the trains elsewhere. I for one am forced on the yard xb, and i refuse to work in that yard. I was one of the main ones that refused to take engineer calls when cut back. But now that im forced in the yard, on a yard xb that doesnt pay shit, I dont have much of a choice but to take the calls, i cant afford that garbage guarantee pay that the yard pays. to hell with that. so you best bet any chance i get to get out of that yard im gonna take it. i understand how you all feel, i felt the same way. but when it comes to finances, shit goes out the window. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 February 2018 I see mantle ridge LP Paul Halil acquired 42+ million dollars in stock on FEB 9 along with others. Happened to look at the form 4 from the securities commision for CSX. Mantle ridge is going to be around for a while. Or they know something we don't. Look for stock rebound soon. Good Luck 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 February 2018 Regarding Louisville - people assigned to yard extra list taking a call for a road job: What's the rule? If they get you on the phone and you're qualified, rested, can you say no? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 11 February 2018 The guy complaining about yard guys taking road jobs is right. The company only calls yard xtra board guys when the road boards are exhausted. Why take a call to help the company? Make them miss an on time departure here and there and the will eventually add turns which adds jobs which is good for everyone. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 February 2018 To the guy crying about yard guys taking Rd jobs in Louisville, you sure do check the board a lot, probably don't have a life, looks like you're sharp shooting. You mad because yard trash stold your step on step off high ball train? I think there's a term for your type," bitch ass n*gga"... 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 February 2018 legal fees Attorneys work on contingency. They cover all cost up front. This is how the little man can take on a large corporation. If defendant is found guilty. Your attorney fees and court cost will be paid by defendant. If you lose your case attorney eats all losses. If settled prior to.. Settlement minus attorney fees minus court cost and fees equals your money free and clear. Your attorney will have you agree to an engagement letter. This is an agreement to protect you and your attorney. On whats expected from you and the law firm. Your attorney will draw it up but it will be written so he has more protections than you do. You do not have to agree to this. You can inform him that there are changes that will have to be made. He will change it. If he says no then he doesn't believe your case will prevail. If you are still unsure about the engagement letter. Pay a second attorney to go over it. Once you agree to the engagement letter you will be strictly bound to it. You don't have to sign an engagement letter for it to be binding. A verbal agreement is the same. Most can't afford to fight an attorney. So go over everything he's there for himself then he's there for you. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 February 2018 No mo, instead typing all that shit nobody probably read, i personally made it to about the second sentence. Next time just post a link, #longestpostever 

 Name: Slick E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 11 February 2018 Sure sounds like a bunch of cry baby cut back engineers in Louisville mad cause guys getting called and holding them back for a bid. If I was one I'd say FU mofo....I got bills to pay . Maybe they don't want to be in the yard so they take road calls... 

 Name: Key E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 February 2018 NOMO. Good to see you posting. been a long time. Hope the back is Well. Nothing has changed in this dream I'm living. Email of yours crashed I guess. Ran out of "keys" a few years back! Lol. Sure miss your brown banana awards! don't be a stranger! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 February 2018 thats cool this isnt Canada the union has nothing to do with Federal protect leave 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 February 2018 In Canada I vent threw arbitration to get my railroad job back,I won my case. The union told me that the arbitration ruling,is final and there is no appeals and you can’t take legal action. Because the union and company agree to use this process to settle issues c 

 Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 February 2018 Interesting...explains a lot. WASHINGTON — Federal investigators are still looking at how CSX railway crews routed an Amtrak train into a parked freight train in Cayce, South Carolina, last weekend. But even if CSX should bear sole responsibility for the accident, Amtrak will likely end up paying crash victims' legal claims with public money. Amtrak pays for accidents it didn't cause because of secretive agreements negotiated between the passenger rail company, which receives more than $1 billion annually in federal subsidies, and the private railroads, which own 97 percent of the tracks on which Amtrak travels. Both Amtrak and freight railroads that own the tracks fight to keep those contracts secret in legal proceedings. But whatever the precise legal language, plaintiffs' lawyers and former Amtrak officials say Amtrak generally bears the full cost of damages to its trains, passengers, employees and other crash victims — even in instances where crashes occurred as the result of a freight rail company's negligence or misconduct. Railroad industry advocates say that freight railways have ample incentive to keep their tracks safe for their employees, customers and investors. But the Surface Transportation Board and even some federal courts have long concluded that allowing railroads to escape liability for gross negligence is bad public policy. "The freight railroads don't have an iron in the fire when it comes to making the safety improvements necessary to protect members of the public," said Bob Pottroff, a Manhattan, Kansas, rail injury attorney who has sued CSX on behalf of an injured passenger from the Cayce crash. "They're not paying the damages." © The Associated Press The wreckage of an Amtrak train, bottom, and a CSX freight train lie next to the tracks in Cayce, SC., on Sunday, Feb. 4, 2018. The trains collided in the early morning darkness Sunday, killing the Amtrak conductor and engineer… Beyond CSX's specific activities in the hours before the accident, the company's safety record has deteriorated in recent years, according to a standard metric provided by the Federal Railroad Administration. Since 2013, CSX's rate of major accidents per million miles traveled has jumped by more than half, from 2 to 3.08 — significantly worse than the industry average. And rail passenger advocates raised concerns after the CSX CEO at the time pushed hard last year to route freight more directly by altering its routes. CSX denied that safety had slipped at the company, blaming the change in the major accident index on a reduction of total miles traveled combined with changes in its cargo and train length. "Our goal remains zero accidents," CSX spokesman Bryan Tucker wrote in a statement provided to The Associated Press. CSX's new system of train routing "will create a safer, more efficient railroad resulting in a better service product for our customers," he wrote. Amtrak's ability to offer national rail service is governed by separately negotiated track usage agreements with 30 different railroads. All the deals share a common trait: They're "no fault," according to a September 2017 presentation delivered by Amtrak executive Jim Blair as part of a Federal Highway Administration seminar. No fault means Amtrak takes full responsibility for its property and passengers and the injuries of anyone hit by a train. The "host railroad" that operates the tracks must only be responsible for its property and employees. Blair called the decades-long arrangement "a good way for Amtrak and the host partners to work together to get things resolved quickly and not fight over issues of responsibility." Amtrak declined to comment on Blair's presentation. But Amtrak's history of not pursuing liability claims against freight railroads doesn't fit well with federal officials and courts' past declarations that the railroads should be held accountable for gross negligence and willful misconduct. After a 1987 crash in Chase, Maryland, in which a Conrail train crew smoked marijuana then drove a train with disabled safety features past multiple stop signals and into an Amtrak train — killing 16 — a federal judge ruled that forcing Amtrak to take financial responsibility for "reckless, wanton, willful, or grossly negligent acts by Conrail" was contrary to good public policy. Conrail paid. But instead of taking on more responsibility going forward, railroads went in the opposite direction, recalls a former Amtrak board member who spoke to the AP. After Conrail was held responsible in the Chase crash, he said, Amtrak got "a lot of threats from the other railroads." The former board member requested anonymity because he said that Amtrak's internal legal discussions were supposed to remain confidential and he did not wish to harm his own business relationships by airing a contentious issue. Because Amtrak operates on the freight railroads' tracks and relies on the railroads' dispatchers to get passenger trains to their destinations on time, Amtrak executives concluded they couldn't afford to pick a fight, the former Amtrak board member said. "The law says that Amtrak is guaranteed access" to freights' tracks, he said. "But it's up to the goodwill of the railroad as to whether they'll put you ahead or behind a long freight train." A 2004 New York Times series on train crossing safety drew attention to avoidable accidents at railroad crossings and involving passenger trains — and to railroads' ability to shirk financial responsibility for passenger accidents. In the wake of the reporting, the Surface Transportation Board ruled that railroads "cannot be indemnified for its own gross negligence, recklessness, willful or wanton misconduct," according to a 2010 letter by then-Surface Transportation Board chairman Dan Elliott to members of Congress. That ruling gives Amtrak grounds to pursue gross negligence claims against freight railroads— if it wanted to. "If Amtrak felt that if they didn't want to pay, they'd have to litigate it," said Elliott, now an attorney at Conner & Winters. The AP was unable to find an instance where the railroad has brought such a claim against a freight railroad since the 1987 Chase, Maryland, disaster. The AP also asked Amtrak, CSX and the Association of American Railroads to identify any example within the last decade of a railroad contributing to a settlement or judgment in a passenger rail accident that occurred on its track. All entities declined to provide such an example. Even in court cases where establishing gross negligence by a freight railroad is possible, said Potrroff, the plaintiff's attorney, he has never seen any indication that the railroad and Amtrak are at odds. "You'll frequently see Amtrak hire the same lawyers the freight railroads use," he said. Ron Goldman, a California plaintiff attorney who has also represented passenger rail accident victims, agreed. While Goldman's sole duty is to get the best possible settlement for his client, he said he'd long been curious about whether it was Amtrak or freight railroads which ended up paying for settlements and judgments. "The question of how they share that liability is cloaked in secrecy," he said, adding: "The money is coming from Amtrak when our clients get the check." Pottroff said he has long wanted Amtrak to stand up to the freight railroads on liability matters. Not only would it make safety a bigger financial consideration for railroads, he said, it would simply be fair. "Amtrak has a beautiful defense — the freight railroad is in control of all the infrastructure," he said. But he's not expecting Amtrak to use it during litigation over the Cayce crash. "Amtrak always pays," he said.   Name: Esq E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 February 2018 This is unlike running a red signal. The court system can get involved immediately. CSX and their managers have broken federal law. You may have to go through the process to get your job back quicker per arbitrator. But you absolutely don't have to wait to file a demand letter with CSX. Then a complaint with the court system. Finally file suit against CSX and their blind managers. This may take a few years but it will never see a court room. CSX will be writing all who suffered a check to settle. They will also offer the men their job back or will be forced to pay future lost wages too. To all the penis envy men. Those men you despise. When it's all said and done. Will have their job,seniority and more than they could have saved in 20 years. Meanwhile you will continue to work and bad mouth those wrongfully terminated. ONly to watch those men be better off financially than they have ever or could have been.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 February 2018 Sucker for the day in Louisville, staley. Assigned to yard xb but took a road job! Thanks union brother.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 February 2018 Cond 30+ It gets tricky with exhausting all union options. One thing it doesn't do is stop the statue of limitations for filing a lawsuit which is 2 years in most cases. I knew a case where CSX took a man out of service for 6 months without ever filing charges against him. The unions did everything they could and eventually got him back to work. The tricky part he did go through the union to try and get back all lost wages. CSX balked and did nothing. It went on for over 2 years. He was under the impression hiring a lawyer could happen if all avenues were exhausted. When that day came no lawyer would touch it because the statue of limitations had expired. I don't know how hiring a lawyer affects the unions handling of the case. That could be a problem.   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 February 2018 Bird Trex him be doing fine. Steal be trying learn him too say sue those mofos. right after I got out I hired on in96 Can't believe I made it that many years. I don't go out on medical after lawsuit. I'm gonna go out for management or be a fry cook. My days riding the iron be done. Thinks for asking bout Bird Trex Easy M.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 February 2018 Wonder why the sorry unions haven't done more on behalf of the people for being wrongfully pulled oos for fmla misuse sorry unions don't mind taking union does an not helping the men they should be included in lawsuits too for mis reputation.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 10 February 2018 CSX cut the employee pool,jeopardizing safety.puts more money in top managements pockets. So sad but true.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 10 February 2018 The long service employees they like to fire,because of amount of holidays they have to pay etc can tie your pention up. The new junior guy they can abuse the shit out of him.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 February 2018 Mayihaveanother You worked enough to get an 11 grand bonus and got chopped for using fmla. Just wow, can't believe this place.   Name: X-traH bored E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 February 2018 Are the Engineers voting on the hourly wage? Seems like that rumor has resurfaced. Any word from the Ble leadership?   Name: Co E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 February 2018 Really? I cant believe for one minute they can penalize anyone for making aliving while fired. If that were the case they would have to audit everyone's bank accounts and activities for extra cash deposited. I sure the hell would work for cash. Guess I'll have to research thst one.If the union takes too damn long and it's an extreme amount of time to settle you can get your own lawyer and sue outside of the union process. Read your LMRDA rights as a union member in the UNITED STATES. Union members are protected by numerous federal laws against corrupt or inept union actions. I called the international once after waiting a year for a decision on a matter and told them I would be getting a lawyer on my own to handle the situation. When they found out I knew my federal rights and could do so they got real shitty and told me to go right ahead. Said no lawyer could do as good a job as them. Funny how fast the problem was solved.   Name: Retired Conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 10 February 2018 Advice to anyone terminated. You cannot sue CSX until the union has exhausted all of the appeals including arbitration. The only exceptions are discrimination and injury claims. If the arbitrator puts you back to work you will be made whole meaning you will be paid the amount of money you would have earned working MINUS - any money you make on another job while dismissed. Just a word of advice an under the table job will help you stick It to CSX just a little more   Name: 6moremonths E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 February 2018 ape I don't have fmla and hope I'll never will need it. Your statement is partially correct but how is someone who has a certification by a health care provider. That lays off on federally protected UNPAID leave living off someone else. Fmla is far from welfare these men and women are not getting paid. I seriously doubt a licensed health care provider is going to falsify a certification and place their license in jeopardy. I for one don't care If one works or doesn't work. I've always made about the same and have worked about the same. I also believe that those on fmla, displaced,union, sick, or whatever keep the junior man working. If or when csx finds X amount of people to marry the railroad there will be massive layoffs. Do you know what 2 men working 60hrs a week equals? 1 U.S Job loss. Sue the hell out of them boys. Include all supervisors has defendants. also for those that don't know this site is CSX SUCKS not CSX SUCKASSES   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 February 2018 EAsy M been doin good. I seen my bonus is a shade over 11grand.all is good. Got chopped Thursday. been in talks to my lawyer. be kicken back drawing unemployment. thanking after my settlement i be going out on disabilty I dont thank i be ever wanting to go back. hadnt had this much fun since i was a kid   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 February 2018 EAsy M been doin good. I seen my bonus is a shade over 11grand.all is good. Got chopped Thursday. been in talks to my lawyer. be kicken back drawing unemployment. thanking after my settlement i be going out on disabilty I dont thank i be ever wanting to go back. hadnt had this much fun since i was a kid   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 February 2018 Mantle Ridge cannot sell their stock for 5 years. 4 more to go. Monetizing Hilal’s gains at Mantle Ridge could be harder than the success at Pershing Square, however. For one thing, the fund is set up as a special-purpose vehicle with private-equity-like terms. Mantle Ridge’s investors all have different terms, but typically SPVs charge between 10 and 30 percent above a hurdle. Mantle Ridge’s investors have a five–year lockup, and Hilal won’t get paid until that time, at which time his fund will sell its CSX stake.   Name: Reality E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 February 2018 Hey ape When everything I posted happens I'll be sure to come back and tell you I told you so! Seniority might secure you having a job but it won't secure your choice of one. Just your vacation time. Better wake up. Your in denile.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 February 2018 Wages rose 2.9 last year. What dis we get?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 10 February 2018 On market watch CSX was buy, predicts hit over 72 bucks. I say it will go bellow 40 !!!!!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 February 2018 If you do nothing and hold on to your csx stock, you will lose a lot of money that was supposed to be there for retirement. Its not a garuntee, but it is very probable. There are safer places to put your money right now that are nowhere near as volatile as csx. Should have got rid of it when it was 59 bucks. It's 51 bucks now. Just know that when mantle ridge starts dumping it will be too late because when they are done every investor will know and they will dump to.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 February 2018 I bet most people that complain about Fmla use are Republican and most that are all for it are Democrat. I'm not trying to start anything just curious about that.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 February 2018 Any word about any or info if anybody has been terminated for fmla misuse. Give some details   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 February 2018 Conductor 1-10 Got their point across. Where do you work? Men are laying off FM as much now as before. CSX can't scare a man to good health. This place turns out fat broken down bodies. If 60% of the men are on Fmla it surprise me the number wasn't higher. P.S. Go fuck yourself. Hope you get laid off punk.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 February 2018 Con You're one of those who has a standard for everyone else that you don't Measure up to. It's easy to talk about another man's sin. Ask yourself have you ever stole time from your beloved CSX. Waited to tie up to miss a train catch your off day. Have you ever passed the work along to the next Crew. Talked to everyone in the Crew room instead of starting your deadhead. Took your time to kill a train. Laid off Union. Laid off sick when you felt fine. Called the man to get flipped home when there was rested crews. Cried to get the boards cut. Put in pl days before anyone else could. Bitches like you are the worse. Complain about everyone when they're not around just to suck them off the next time you see them. You might not lay off Fmla but your doing other shit just as bad or worse. I hear the men I work with that live on the rails tell me how they support their family. I ask them which one and does the current family know you? They are the most miserable, untrustworthy men like yourself. Save your self righteous bullshit for your fat lazy cheating wife.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 February 2018 Reality, Hey retard, good seniority will guarantee you that you still have a job. I bet you're one of those negative fucks, that does nothing but bitch all the time, if the government was handing out free checks you'd bitch because you had to stand in line.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 February 2018 they terminated several men across the system today. One I know works all the time. Has 3 kids and his wife is in bad shape. So much for a fair an impartial hearing.   Name: Reality E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 09 February 2018 Crews The facts. The pay rates Will change. Seniority will be a thing of the past. Super pools will be implemented. Work rules will be drastically reduced. Crews will swap trains at a halfway point and bypass the hotels. The plans are already on the table. Yard and road work will be combined. Everyone will become multi purpose employees. Crews will be reduced. It doesn't matter what happens to the stock. It doesn't matter how they restructure. It doesn't matter what assets they sell. You are a blue collar in the field worked with absolutely no control how CSX handles its business. You are no body. You will come to work and bitch every day like you always do and do your job as your told or be fired.You can't even control you union's let along a corporation as big as CSX. So learn to adapt to the changes. Keep your mouth shut and do your job as your instructed. There's not a damn thing you can do about it. The union's have no federal rights that prevents CSX from restructuring. If you still have a job when it is all done then consider yourself blessed. Do you job and take your paycheck. If this pisses You off TOO BAD! The truth hurts. You cut your balls off years ago so deal with the game you are being given. Conform or leave.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 February 2018 Ape Yep, then comes the merger or acquisitions.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 February 2018 CSX stock still over valued, I don’t know how much more CSX is willing to sell to try prop. Up the stock. There will be lots of corrections still with CSX stock. Before this is over I can see it around thirty bucks. My two cents   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 February 2018 Other STFU! Don't talk about things you know nothing about. With CSX it's just another day different idiots running it. I've been around the railroad since the '70s. John Snow in the '90s nearly sent CSX in to bankruptcy with a war with the NS over Conrail. Snow didn't spend anything on the infrastructure which deteriorated. His successor Mike Ward wasn't any better. All this crap going on with harsh attitudes towards employees was all started under Ward. Ward wanted to be like the NS so he hired Tony Ingram & David Brown from the NS. That's when harsh attendance policies came about along with taking away authority from management at every terminal. That any infraction no matter how small was taken to an investigation level. That brought about the point system. They had a purpose to flood the unions with defending an overload of BS charges. Storing locomotives, cars etc.. nothing new. Selling/leasing off lines nothing new. Furloughing & displacing employees nothing new. It's been going on for many years. All the railroads do it. Go ask those who work on the CP, CN, BNSF, UP, NS the list goes on.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 February 2018 RRJIM, DON'T BE AN IDIOT! Stick to talking about what you know. A lot of RR stock is down, but other RR still have all their assets. They didn't sell equipment and track, store equipment, or layoff 20% of their manpower. They are still at 100% operating power and could take on more business if needed. CSX is operating at max capacity right now and struggling. If a major contract came up for bids CSX couldn't handle it without making big changes. If Trump needed massive amounts of concrete for the wall, coal made a comeback, or U.S. goes toe to toe with N. Korea CSX couldn't support the extra business without restructuring, and restructuring costs a lot of money.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 February 2018 Stocks are in a market correction. It has nothing to do with CSX. I easily looked up the competitors NS, UP, CP, CN etc... all are down. The Dow Transports were hit hard yesterday. To put it bluntly with some of these posts, Why do you want to crap where you eat?   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 February 2018 It would be foolish to go to an hourly rate at the present rates. Especially when there is already a railroad the IC that has been under hourly rates for years. They got around$35 an hour to start. If you take pay raises at 2.5% per year (being generous) for 12 years that rate would be $45.50 an hour today. Personally I don't think it works for a any of the major Class 1 railroads. Not without reducing manpower significantly. Better off with the current trip rates.   Name: LC E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 09 February 2018 Eng The hourly rate post is correct. It has never been that high. I hear everyday men think it will be 50plus an hour wrong . My post is correct sorry.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 February 2018 I'm glad my wife makes more money than me.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 February 2018 It's only an agreement for five years. If anything changes they can pull out.   Name: Eng E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 February 2018 Whoever posted the rates is dead wrong. Made up numbers to discourage all. I know for a fact the first negotiation for engineers was offered 38 hour.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 February 2018 To take CSX into the future,the board of director,has approved funding. To hire the Long Island Medium,to try and get communication going with Hh. If this is effective,Foote will be demoted. Investors will be notified if this is successful.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 February 2018 Investors gave a five year commitment to lock in the money for CSX. But trust me if the company gets managed badly and other events that make stock decline. The investors would get out ASAP.Just like the collective agreement CSX has with the union employees. CSX is not committed to honouring the collective agreement that they signed.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 February 2018 If stock starts to tank watch how fast,mantle ridge and friends will bail out. Other railways said they would not look at acquiring CSX until stock was under forty bucks.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 February 2018 Yes the article below say investors committed to lock in for five years with mantle. But with Hh going to hell. It could be changed in the courts   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 February 2018 a Read more at: https://thefly.com/landingPageNews.php?id=2490698   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 February 2018 Yes the man is right there is no five year lock. Investors will sell when they want.and to guy that said put equipment back in service,a lot of it has been sold off. Hump yards they can sell the steel for scrap,and develop the land.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 February 2018 What would happen if all the changes reverted back to pre Harrison? Like if we opened all humps back up, put all the jobs back on including herders and utility. Took all equipment out of service and put back in service good for service. FACT. I just threw FACT in there because it's kinda fun and I wanted to be cool, but sound like a dill deaux at the same time.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 February 2018 You are an idiot if you think mantle ridge is stuck for another 4 years, they can sell out and be gone by morning. FACT.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 February 2018 No such thing as a 5 year lock and hold. Fact   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 February 2018 Mantle Ridge and their investors are not going anywhere, they have a five year lock and hold, of which one has been served. FACT.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 February 2018 Things did not start to change at cp until Hh left and ackman took his money and ran. But we still have the ceo snake creel. As long as mantle rid is still invested in CSX your going to get just more of the same bull shit. But if stock keeps dropping mantle might pull out sooner than you think!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 February 2018 I posted the same thing yesterday, the gig is up with precision railroading. Once the cuts stop and the sale is over. With loss of customers. The stock will start to reflect all the nonsense.   Name: Oh my E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 February 2018 How does the super pools work ? Does it do Away with xtra board ? Is it 1 pool and you go anywhere ? Will it cut jobs ?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 08 February 2018 CSX stock down another$2.50 today. Net gain for the past 52 weeks is less than $3.00 a share. I guess PSR doesn't benefit anyone. I first told everyone to get rid of it when Harrison became CEO. The gains were already made just prior. When Harrison became sick I said it again, dump your stock. When he died a few days later I said it again. If you are holding on to it hoping to get your losses back, DON'T. The ride is over, has been for a while. CSX will have to spend a lot of money to get back on track again. It is all down hill from here for the stock. CSX IS CRUMBLING AND WILL HAVE TO REBUILD ONCE IT BOTTOMS OUT. My guess is CSX stock will soon hit mid to low 40's and we will change command again at that point. Sell now and get back in once it drops.   Name: HR E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 February 2018 FACT WRONG! The back pay would not have been paid under the hourly rate. The back pay was figured on what your wages were at the time period that your agreement had not been settled. It would not have been figured under a new formula such as the hourly rate. That is why it is called BACK PAY! Wages you should have earned if you would have settled the agreement. And as for the post that the hourly rate will decrease your pay under trip rates, do the math. You figured it out. Say a trip takes you 12 hour to get there- On the hourly rate at 25.30 for a conductor at 10 hours>253.00 plus 2 hours overtime>37.95=$290.95 that would cost you considerably if you already get a flat trip rate of much more. Good luck. 

 Name: Signal department E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 February 2018 I have been a signal man for csx for more than five years. Recent rumors of job cuts have left everyone with the attitude of screw it i am getting laid off so why try to do good work. Trucks are trashed, tools are broken or left laying on the job site, and quality of work are all directly related to this new attitude. For example a 1 year employee who worked at a warehouse making $9 an hour before csx hired him is willing to learn everything he can about signal systems while a 3 year employee spends most of the day complaining about csx, playing on his cellphone, and generally getting paid to make everyone else miserable. Seniority determines who stays and who’s cut. Good luck if the cuts happen because work quality will be trash.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 February 2018 https://www.ble-t.org/pr/news/newsflash.asp?id=6065 ITS ABOUT TIME BLET. ABOUT 2 WEEKS BEHIND SMART   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 February 2018 http://www.tcrc657.com/news/2014/Hourly_Rate_Notice.pdf   Name: Fact E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 February 2018 The reason that the hourly rate is back on the table is because of the backpay. The company didn't want to Backpay under the hourly rate because it would have been a huge increase in payment. Fact   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 February 2018 Louisville: Roten, Gibbs, and Woods are the company sukkas for Louisville again today. Thanks union brothers!   Name: Con1 E-mail: Employed as: APE, for N/A Posted: 08 February 2018 Roselake is being sold to the UP. UP just had someone in the building measuring all the offices.   Name: Getting Rich E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 February 2018 Why has the hourly rate come up again. Utu will never agree because they aren't out for our best interest on a good living income however they do want the most union paying employees. The two are contradictory. As for doing extra work, who in the hell ever has time, not where I work. As far as claims go, when do they ever pay them anyway. All this is a moot point anyway, NEVER GONNA HAPPEN   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 February 2018 Train accidents, customers, Fmla, stock manipulation. withholding information. The legal team is going to be busy in 2018.   Name: LC E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 February 2018 In talks about doing away with motels. The hourly rate is at 25.30 for conductor and 26.70 for engineer. There will be no more claims paid as of last Monday. All will be on self supporting super pools.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 February 2018 Someguy When Hunter Harrison was CEO at CN the BLE on the Illinois Central/CN went to hourly rate. The UTU followed suit latter. This was around 10-12 years ago. It started out at$35 an hour. A basic day was based on 10 hours so $350 a day with overtime after 10 hours. It eliminated the distinction between road & yard. When a crew got called they didn't know what they were working. If a crew took at road train from point A to B if they had time left they could switch out cars in the yard if they still had time go dump some ballast etc.. so for 12 hours you would do whatever they want. The guys I spoke with on the IC stated afterwards they were deadheaded home so no more lodging. They made a lot of OT. It boosted their income greatly while we were making$80,000-$100,000 on a good high mileage run, they were making$135,000-$150,000 on the hourly rate. Even their extra boards were$90,000+. One important issue that the GC for the BLE secured was job protection. That anyone working at the time it was implemented was protected they could not be furloughed seeing this would eventually cut jobs though attrition. I know the BLE on CSX & some other railroads tried to get a similar contract with on-property agreements but the railroads wanted no part of it. 

 Name: reality check E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 February 2018 Wake up idiots!!!! The writing is on the wall. We will all be on an hourly rate. All trip rates will be abolished. There will be no assigned limits. You wont need them. You will work every direction on every job. There will no need for locals. You will get called to do any job. It will take the company a long time to get everyone qualified to do all the work but they will eventually get you to do it. If for some reason you don't get called for a particular job because it just doesn't come your way on the one big super pool you will only be allowed 1 pilot for one day for a refresher. The only upside to this is you wont need to worry about filing claims for out of route, mishandled on the job or being screwed out of double tickets. No penalties for combining yard and road tickets. This will decrease the work of your union representatives. When this happens it will be time to file a petition against our unions and demand our union dues are decreased. They are already some of the highest dues paid by any union member in the country. We don't need to line their pockets if their work is cut in half and our seniority rights have been demolished. So sit back and wait for the changes to happen because they will. You have lost all control of your unions. the only thing you will have left is to go after them to reduce the dues and keep your money they don't deserve. 

 Name: Someguy E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 February 2018 Also at the meeting found out that the utu signed off with the company allowing them to miss call the 1st out pool conductor if running the roster for a yard job. 

 Name: Someguy E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 February 2018 So I went to a union meeting 2 days ago and it sounds like the company wants to discuss hourly rate again. It also sounds like all the local and general committees are open to discussion with the company on this. My question is any idea what the hourly rate would be? I guess the soo railroad already has it.anyone on this board ever talk to any engineers that work over there to see what  they make. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 February 2018 Was there a memo or bullitin put out on hump yard reopening. If not just another rumour! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 February 2018 Anyone here anything about a hump or two opening back up? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 07 February 2018 Taking calls that you don't have to is ensuring that the guys layed off stay layed off, the guys near the bottom soon get layed off, and the company keeps manpower at the lowest numbers possible. If you are taking calls then you're a chump, company sukkaz that don't care about your coworkers. I hope you need someone to help you out sometime. There are a lot of cutback engineers right now that ain't getting marked up because of chumps like you. We all know who you are, and yes we all resent you and talk smack about you in the locker room. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 07 February 2018 I have worked the railroad my whole life. To the men that feels his needs are more important than other members. You may be right,but when members are trying to stick together to preserve the future of the railroad jobs. You all should be on the same team that’s the only chance there is to protect your jobs. They are really asking for everyone to help the cause. You might need there help one day. And they could turn there back on you. I’ve seen this many times at the railway. You all have to stick together..This Hh hype precision railroad Is done.I predict there is going to be a change of power at the top. 

 Name: money hungry E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 07 February 2018 I think until one of you assholes want to step up and pay my bills I will continue to take calls. None of you know my financial situation. some of you are probably the cheap asses that save your sandwich bags to reuse. I didn't take this job to sit at the house and starve. If I was a gambling man, and I am, I bet you guys that are whining are higher up on the roster and don't have to worry about if you are going to have a job next month. The railroad is 'feast or famine'...get it while you can! 

 Name: tiredtoo E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 07 February 2018 Loco 30 hang it up. You can complain until the cows come home. There are those who are self centered and so money hungry that they will take every call every time the phone rings. THEY DONT CARE. We have all been preaching this for years and they don't give a shit. I remember a guy when I first got hired that was doing that and every single time he was first out they bumped him. That was when we didn't have this stupid bid system for engineers. People got together and watched his every move and just about starved him out. People would come from another terminals in our district just to bump him. He only worked when they ran the roster. Well he eventually started documenting every time he was first out and after he accumulated enough evidence he took it to the GC and sent a letter to the international complaining about harassment from fellow union members because he was supporting the company and helping them out when they were short handed. No one was violating the union agreement exercising their right to make a seniority move but the LCs started telling people that is they kept it up they would have to do an investigation as to the constant pattern of his being bumped and claims of harassment and only working on roster calls. It just goes to show that even the union jumped on board to help him out. He finally quit and took a street job. So if you want these guys to feel any pain for this you got limited choices. If he's a conductor then bump his butt while you still got bumps. If he's and engineer on the bid card then your shit out of luck unless the guys start making it personal. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 07 February 2018 Louisville has to be the absolute worst as far as people taking jobs that they don't have to! Do you not realize that every time you "help" the company you hurt yourself and co-workers? Everyday there are at least 2 jobs that get filled by a volunteer that didn't have to take the job. It's usually the same 8 people that do this. If 2 trains per day were missed because of man power shortages then they would have to add turns! Stop wrecking the jobs! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 February 2018 Retired NS here. I remember when George Bush was president and we had a union meeting with our GC president. He said the current administration has been working very hard at trying to repeal FELA, and the biggest reason it has not happened was because the war in Iraq was such an administrative and political distraction from other would be agendas. With all respect to those who have lost lives or have been injured in train accidents due to management incompetence and cost cutting, the danger of FELA being repealed has probably past. At least for a while. A silver lining. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 07 February 2018 My 36 years as a carman,I’m so grateful I never found anyone mangled or killed on the job. That was my biggest fear to come onto that while working in the yard. People just have no idea how dangerous the railroad is. 

 Name: Ape E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 February 2018 Ape Not the first one and it won't be the last. There will always be mistakes made. Even if it isn't the crews fault you'll get some idiot running gates or walking on the tracks not paying attention. People get killed every year by trains. Just like traffic accident. Crews get tired, rushed by management and strung out by the new style. Mistakes are inevitable. Dispatchers make mistakes because their under stress too. The railroad is a evil indusrty unless your sitting in a million dollar leather chair in Jacksonville! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 07 February 2018 An accident that cost lives,sure leaves a dark cloud hanging over workers in the railway industry! 

 Name: Cond E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 07 February 2018 Blah blah blah.... The switch wasn't lined back. We all get what happened. Why,only the crew knows why they forgot. Speculate till the cows come home. Now to more important things. Hey Roselake conductor! You still haven't told us who the TM was that told you that you were going to take trains over to the Missouri side like they did in conrail. Did your engineers notice the company blew EVANSVILLE into the job description for roselake on their bid cards???? Shows evansville as their away from home terminal as well as roselake. A couple of LCs didn't even notice. We had to tell them. F...king real man. Damn LCs didn't even notice. Companies up to changing all the jobs and doing what BNSF is doing. Make you go all over the damn country. You better start paying attention on how they are paying you and how many miles your betting paid. You can bet your ass the union's will let them screw you out of actual miles run. They have been stealing from us for years calling road crews recrewing long pools "road switchers" and stealing miles and combining recrew tickets. They will steal the pennies off a dead man's eyes. Watch your tickets and your earning statements. File those claims. Start a paper trail. You need it so you got proof when you finally strike against your union for letting this shit happen for the last 3 years! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 07 February 2018 Ya some one screwed up, that switch should of been lined. Just common sense!! 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 February 2018 Ape < than a year The articles I've read not really sure if it was the conductor from the train that was shoved off or another one who was assigned to the switches under the signal suspension to make sure everything was lined for the next train. I've read where AMTRAK 91 waited 5 miles up the track till the TD got the OK that the route was lined. Lot's of questions. It was discussed briefly at the C&O Railroad Retiree lunch yesterday. Back in the day under signal suspension or if signals were down that when approaching absolute signals and/or switches we had to stop to make sure the route was lined. We've had signal suspensions where there was a switchman positioned at mainline switches and we had to get permission by radio to proceed. Like I said lot's of questions. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 February 2018 Louisville Company suck asses for the day, Woods, Roten, and Smith. All assigned to the yard extra board and all took jobs that they didn't have to. Keep it up idiots, they will never add turns. Way to help the company cut jobs off! Bravo union brothers! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 06 February 2018 Mugshots.com ID: 69908027 Robert Pines occupation cable installer and convicted felon... Age: 60 Home Address: Sullivan Arrest Date: 11/21/2013 Info: was arrested on the charge of Tampering With a Witness. A warrant was issued and he remains in custody. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 06 February 2018 From what I can figure out CSX train backed into that track. Head end was 700 feet from the switch. Why did the crew not walk up and restore that switch to the main. ???? Someone left a trap 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 February 2018 http://www.wctv.tv/content/news/GSP-investigating-crash-in-downtown-Hahira-472749653.html RAIL SAFETY MANUAL FOR DUMMIES ARTICE 7 --Blow a train 60 mph through a rail construction zone you will be castrated. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 06 February 2018 Has anyone been fired yet for a track and CSX accident? 

 Name: retired union rep! E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 30+ years Posted: 06 February 2018 UTU/BLET Supporters Well Indy crews,,,,,, Your union agreement work rules and working conditions are being changed right in front of your faces. Your seniority privileges are being abolished and reduced to nothing. Your days of earning the right to retire on a job close to home and earn the highest wages are over. You are all becoming just one big herd of work mules that will be whipped and beat into submission. Why you ask??? Because you did nothing but sit on your asses and cry and whine and not stand up to the unions for not fighting the good fight for you. Not one petition circulated to your International reps. NOT ONE SINGLE LETTER TO THE EDITOR. NOT ONE SINGLE UPROAR THAT GOT THE ATTENTION OF THE PRESS. Bitched and moaned and didn't demand your GC office take it public. You all just stood there and did nothing. Don't you idiots know you don't have to strike to get heard. You have every right by federal law to organize as a group and take your issues to the press. The company cant do a damn thing to interfere with your organizing rights and to take it to the press that your pissed off that your unions are sitting in the laps of the company and letting them rape you. they try and suspend you for organizing a protest group against your union they will see a court order injunction thrown on them so fast it will make their heads spin! Your unions will be jumping through hoops to shut you up. They dont want the media running with the story!Hope your all proud of yourselves. Now go pay those over inflated dues and kiss your unions ass along with the carriers! Every one of you would make Jimmy Hoffa proud! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 06 February 2018 https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/02/06/incorrect-information-from-csx-employee-led-to.html?ana=yahoo&yptr=yahoo 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 06 February 2018 Shortly before the 2:35 a.m. crash, Amtrak 91 stopped five miles before the site of the collision and waited for a go-ahead from a CSX dispatcher, per CSX protocol when a signaling system is being worked on, CSX documents show. After the CSX conductor on site told a dispatcher that the switch was properly aligned, the dispatcher gave the go-ahead for the Amtrak train, which was carrying 139 passengers and eight crew members bound from New York to Miami, to proceed. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 06 February 2018 Mugshots.com ID: 69908027 Robert Pines occupation cable installer and convicted felon... Age: 60 Home Address: Sullivan Arrest Date: 11/21/2013 Info: was arrested on the charge of Tampering With a Witness. A warrant was issued and he remains in custody. 

 Name: pissed E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 05 February 2018 fuck you FOOTE YOU PC OF SHIT AND A FUCK YOU PAUL HINLAL HOPE BOTH DROP DEAD LIKR THAT DICKHEAD HARRISON.. AND DIDNT FORGRT YOU MARK WALLACE YOU ARE A SPECAIL pc OF SHIT. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 February 2018 Once the minnie me Hh gang have nothing left to sell and no more employees to cut.They better have a steady revenue stream. As to date they have lost many customers.so we will see how much longer they will push the Hh plan. Before they they hit the reset button and mantle ridge gets out of dodge. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 February 2018 Well Name: DMaster all known as Jens Bang or L@N phony dispatcher in the RAIL SAFETY MANUAL FOR DUMMIES Article 1---Train crews don't pass your sight stopping distance because your brakes suck and you have no steering. ARTICLE 2---MARK WELL THE MAIN LINE because who knows who is going to be working the switch on the wrong side of the tracks. Article 3 --- Have all main lines on the OUTSIDE track so something can't go wrong two ways. So the train going north starting at Dixiana Road with a 10 mph speed limit for 6 months ---has a crossing signal to check---a track signal which was dead in 2011 right in the crossing signal lights---and a "W" whistle post for Pallet Drive crossing---the overpass view shows a pole mounted spotlight on the switch on the other side of the tracks which the manual for Dummies says a sitting train would block the light. Google map 33.9049711,-81.0668294 33.9154838,-81.0620867 Dixiana Road August 2011 1825 0.004654 634687X CSX SC LEXINGTON CAYCE PALLET DRIVE 0 0 0 0 0 SS 12 2 60 NO 2 53 1687 0.005470 634693B CSX SC LEXINGTON CAYCE DIXIANA RD 0 0 0 0 0 GT 10 2 10 YES 2 478 (06 22 2017) What's really scary is the street view of the next overpass which was made by robbing a beaver dam for the support props. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for N/A Posted: 05 February 2018 Congratulations CSX for money down the drain. The cost of restructuring all of CSX starting March 7th 2017 with Harrison has far exceeded the performance. February 6th 2017 CSX stock was at $47.26/Share March 7th 2017 Harrison becomes CEO, CSX stock at$48.44/Share February 6th 2018 CSX stock drops 5.9% to $51.99/Share February 6th 2017 to February 6th 2018 with all the ups and downs the stock has a net gain of$4.73/Share for the past 52 weeks Now, a $4.73/Share gain on stock that cost around 50 bucks ain't bad as long as you still have all of your assets and didn't sell a bunch of stuff and fire a bunch of people. But when you have a$4.73/Share gain and some of that gain is from storing equipment, firing personnel, and not maintaining things routinely and most of that gain is based on the hype that Harrison brought, then you did a horrible job with CSX. WE WANT WARD BACK NOW! OPEN THE DAMN HUMPS AND REVERT BACK TO A FLUID FUNCTIONING RAILROAD THAT PLEASES CUSTOMERS AND DOESN'T PISS OFF THE STB. HUNTER HARRISON AND ALL OF HIS METHODS WERE COMPLETE CRAP THE COWARD KNEW NOTHING ABOUT RAILROADING AND ANYONE THAT EVER WORKED WITH OR FOR HIM SHOULD BE BANNED FROM ALL CSX PROPERTY! YOU ARE ALL TOXIC TO RAILROADING! CONGRATULATIONS ON A FAILED PLAN! 

 Name: Esq E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 February 2018 Wiener Carrier broke federal law and they will be held accountable. There aren't blackout dates on fmla. Pulling men OOS over Christmas was a pre planned move. Issuing notices about laying off over the holidays is interference in itself. Carrier and individual supervisors will be held accountable. If you're a supervisor who played a role in this. Be ready to get your checkbook out. Have a Nice Day 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 February 2018 Been out of pocket since investigation for fmla anyone fired yet.. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 February 2018 CSX’s accident rate, based on train miles traveled, has been rising the past three years, according to the Federal Railroad Administration. The rate jumped 13 percent in the first ELEVEN MONTHS of 2017, 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 February 2018 When I inspected a train and found Bad Orders. The car Forman would come look at the car and say it was ok to travel. What I did was put the car number and defect in the computer,and put information in my personal book. The car foreman would have to go into the computer and remove the Bad Order cars .So now if something happened it would show a footprint that the car foreman removed this from computer. And my ass is now covered.These foremen do not want to take a delay on any of these trains. They cross there fingers and hope these trains make it to destination. They are so scared that if they delay a train now that they will get demoted. The new culture right across the board is fear and intimidation. And it works with a lot of people. Who can afford to loose there job when families will be affected. The railway has safety rules, but if you push them the chance you could loose your job is possible. This kind of culture that the ceo has created has to stop from the top guy down. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 February 2018 In Louisville they don't give you time to look at the bullitens on yard jobs. We are insubordanant some how if we ain't out of the locker room. So I frankly do care of I miss something. That's the culture they created. 

 Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 05 February 2018 Get my money from the suits I be filing maybe I go to Super Bowl 2019 baby watch my Eagles repeat. Be riding clean up in their. I shut my lids I can see it all coming to pass. Me 2 maybe 3 blondes my new sled gonna be nice 

 Name: Rambo E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 February 2018 I wish CSX would go ahead and fire me. My board was held January 16 and I can’t wait to be fired so I can go ahead with lawsuits since I have Fmla and dr excuses 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 February 2018 Every morning when I went into work,we had our briefing. As a train inspector we where handed a stack of bullutans to read on any changes etc. Then we had to sign a sheet of paper that we received and read them. Now if we did not abide buy these rules and something happened we where held accountable. The first thing in an investigation is did you receive a copy of bullitin blah blah. If you said yes. The next question is why did you not follow,directions on the bullitin. Now they have you,all those rules and training you sign for lets company off the hook. Sure they want you to take short cuts to save time. But when the shit hits the fan it’s on you. And management will play stupid that they new nothing about any short cuts. I learned that the hard way. It’s better to alway go by the book in today’s climate of railroading. Cause if they need a scape goat your it. This Amtrak accident they are going to blame the little guy,they always do. 

 Name: Divided Union E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 February 2018 Louisville Webb assigned to yard extra board but took a road job. THANKS UNION BROTHER FOR MAKING SURE THE COMPANY CAN GET BY WITHOUT ADDING TURNS! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 February 2018 To trainman before you leave the yard you should have all your paper work for your train. When you take your training and you are given manuals of all the rules and regulations,for your job as a trainman. And you sign your name that you understand the manuals and you received them. Now if something happens to your train that is the first thing they will ask.so why did you not follow the instructions from your training manuals. The TM that told you you don’t need the paper work is incompetent,and should of been challenged. It’s your ass buddy. I would have my rule books on hand to challenge them. At least say you are doing this under protest. They are trying to save time,and someone just was lazy and never put package together for your train. I’ve heard tm tell crews to leave the yard without proper air brake pressure. Said it will charge on the road. If you listen to there stupid demands,and are swayed that easy maybe your in the wrong job. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 05 February 2018 Railway Age Article - "CSX: A mighty fine line, but …" http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/blogs/frank-n-wilner/csx-a-mighty-fine-line-but.html?channel=00 

 Name: Curious E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 05 February 2018 FRA Got a question for you. Had 2 tm's get into an argument over paper work for a train. Yard tm ordered crew out of the terminal without paperwork specfic for their train and route. The line of road tm told them not to leave without it. There were questions about restrictions on the train. When exactly is it okay for crews to run on a main line without paperwork identifying their train. I already know we better have hazmat paperwork . A lot of times they don't provide us with clearance bureau messages. Say we don't need it for the line we are on even though we have double stack trains. I thought it was FRA LAW that the engineer was to be provided with a legible tonage graph. If you don't have paperwork how does the engineer know for a fact what to put in the trip optimized program? How about the information they blow into the PTC? Just what exactly is legal or illegal? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 February 2018 They send criminals to prison,because he is a threat to public safety. When these ceo makes cuts employees etc. The first thing the governments should be asking,is will these cuts jeopardize public or employee safety. But with these industries that are self regulated. They literally get away with crimes that affect employees and public. My grampa was a conductor. My gramma identified him by the ring on the two fingers they found. They just threw money at her no one was held accountable. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 February 2018 After these accidents you have all these self important suits step up to the microphone,polititions, cops, NTSB,company heads. Talk with such concern maybe shed a tear or two. And say we will investigate this and get all the facts so it never happens again. And the people responsible will face the consequences,the people responsible are the people in front of the microphone. They have the power to inforce the laws and regulations,but do nothing. It’s all just a big gong show. 

 Name: Cond E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 05 February 2018 Car repair You are 100% right on with the comment that crews are being sent out on territories they aren't familiar with. The FRA LAW COVERING QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED BY LAW is being blatantly ignored and management is doing everything in their power to intimidate crews into taking trains were they have no business going. The crews are scared to call the FRA ON THE spot and turn then in. What's worse is I know for a fact that some engineers are using the conductor on their train as a pilot because they want to rush and get off the train just to get the job done after the conductor tells them not to worry they won't let them get in trouble. Everyone of them should be FIRED. They do nothing but make those who want to follow the law and stand up to management look like trouble makers. These morons do nothing but undermine our rights to demand they follow the laws and rules as they expect us too. There are dispatchers who even think that if your running with PTC they can order you to run on unqualified territory. These Super pools are going to be trouble from hell. There are hundreds of employees who haven't run for numerous years on all the territory as well as old heads who never did.CSX WILL CUT CORNERS AND VIOLATE FRA LAW to rush the training through. You can bet your life on it. They don't give a crap about the training and safety of crews. They have shown this time and time again. It will be up to the crews to put a stop to this. I will personally do my part and report every incident I witness that breaks FRA LAW OR CSX OPERATING PRACTICES. If a fellow brother gets called by the FRA and it is determined he chose to do it on his own then too bad in dealing with the consequences. It's not being a rat. It's being someone who has had enough of the balless wonders and worthless UNION REPS who won't do what's right. I hope there are more guys out there that feel the same way. We have all let CSX trample on us for way too long. Grow some balls and do what's right or hit the road. They are going to cram this down your throat whether you like it or not. The least you can do is stand for what's right! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 February 2018 Fatigue is to blame. The crew was not allowed to nap on their unpredictable schedule. 12 plus hours staring out the window reading rule books. Crew wasn't thinking clearly all could have been prevented with real work schedules and the right to nap on duty. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 February 2018 Over the years I have seen lots of technology advancesements in the railway industry. Big money spent on state of the art equipment. But at the end of the day, the weekest link in the chain is the human being. I have been to many wrecks and it blows my mind how the simplest mistake can cause such damage and loss of life. These big companies preach safety for this and that. But want to rush the employee on every task to think they are saving a dollar. And there is no money saved when they have these accidents. They can’t figure that out. One thing that blows me away that they have a wreck estimater on a computer program. So they expect a wreck here and there. To them part of doing business. Safety first my ass. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 05 February 2018 Isn't it that under a signal suspension running EC-1 authority that all switches would have to be ascertained that they're lined correctly? That a train can run max authorized speed for that train in between signals & sidings but approaching using caution. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 February 2018 Ya your right a person can guess all he wants. But one thing I know that is all the employee cuts ,most likely played a part in this. And if crew timed out ,someone else should of taken responsibility for that switch. It should make more sense once they have heard tapes and reviewed statements. I’ve seen this show more than once!!! 

 Name: DMaster E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 February 2018 Mr. Pines, you have never posted anything on this site that would indicate that you would know your ass from a hole in the geound. As for this incident with Amtrak- either there's a lot of no account morons from outside CSX on here, or just the dumbest railroaders. Quite honestly, until they review the dispatcher tapes, there are no facts regarding why the switch was still lined for the siding while Amtrac had an EC-1 authority under the signal suspension for that track segment. One of two things happened. The crew reported lining the switch back for the main, or the crew had expired on hours of service, and were unable to complete that task and reported that. I believe that a lengthy review of the dispatcher conversations will likely reveal a sloppiness in the conveyance of information. I regularly work in a sub with 2 dispatchers who I would remand to remedial training,mormflat out dismiss for sloppy radio procedure. If I hear, "yea, go ahead", and affirmations without specifically identifying the party/train being addressed, I am going to scream. So there actually may be more to this than many are assuming. 

 Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 05 February 2018 Eagles baby. At the crib partying all nite. Like to take this time and thanks those that made it all possible. It hadn't been for you're arrogant above the law mentality. I would not be at crib with my boys. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 February 2018 Wish they would have a super pool. Call me a pilot and a recrew. Everyone on it would eventually have fmla. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 February 2018 They already started the super pool in Louisville with the demise of the Texas back several months ago, they were starting there and going to make a super pool back then but the brakes got put on it shortly after. I know it's coming I just wonder why they got rid of the Texas and stopped for a while? I heard the Texas was the first board to go because they wanted to sell it quickly but for whatever reason they haven't yet. From what I'm hearing the Louisville super pool will be in full swing mid summer 2018. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 February 2018 ...It said track was lined and locked into the siding. It should of been restored to mainline ,wonder why it was left like that?...Is there a track whisperer to tell main track? Looks like a glob of tracks to me. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for N/A Posted: 04 February 2018 Super pool is going to Louisville next, it will be for engineers and conductors and will cover LC, LH, and MS. The b3 boards will go away and will be covered by the super pool also. This pool will be about 20% less in man power than the individual boards themselves. Basically if all boards have a total of 100 men then the super pool will be about 80. It looks like a guy will need 10+ years just to hold a yard extra board spot. Along with this there will be around 12% more engineers cut back. This is just a heads up so no one is surprised. Expect the process to start around mid April. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for N/A Posted: 04 February 2018 I Would already say what the outcome will be on the Amtrak accident the csx crew will be held accountable no matter how much pressure they where put under or if they where given enough time to complete the task the dispatcher who is overwhelmed might be charged but csx under the current leadership will get off scot free and the fra and stsb will turn a blind I along with the elected officials who are in there back pocket so three people who have be bullied and pushed around for the past ten months are the ones who will take the blame but the ones who helped bring another accident about will only be worried about how it affects there stock value and wont lose a seconds sleep for the lives lost and the injured just another day of precision railroading. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 February 2018 It said track was lined and locked into the siding. It should of been restored to mainline ,wonder why it was left like that? 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 February 2018 Google map 33.9049711,-81.0668294 ---So there is a whole rail yard-- Hansen and Adkins car carriers-- to park a train right by the Amtrak crash site. So let's set the empty train out by a main line to kill some people. Just more proof railroad safety is ran by little baboons deep in the railroads pocket that need to sent to Jens Bang tinker toy train farm and listen to his crap for 50 years. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 February 2018 Well at all the railway companies that ceo Hh ran we all new he was a SADIST..And now that he is gone,management should hit the reset button and be more employee friendly. Things sure did run a lot smoother. Employees would get that company pride back. I have worked with both styles of management. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 February 2018 No napping might have had a hand in this. If fatigue was an issue. Could have been someone Ill and not thinking clearly. Instead of laying off was fearful of losing their job. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 February 2018 Well it’s got to be time that the goverment and public ,demand safety over share value of a company. Enough is enough of the management mind set that all that matters is money. If these company brass can’t run a safe railway. It is time to replace them. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 04 February 2018 Car repair There is no telling what happened. But precision railroad scheduling has created more unpredictable work schedules leading to fatigue and more people on territories that they are not familiar with. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 February 2018 My gramma was a conductor that got crushed,a crew ran a red board. This Amtrak accidents hit home. Is there something wrong with the culture with Amtrak crews. An average of two derailments a month.If there is something wrong I hope the crew members step up and discuss there issue. Fatigue,etc 

 Name: UTU/BLET E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years Posted: 04 February 2018 NEWS FLASH....NEWS FLASH...Avon crews Step right up and get em while you can! Get your super pools here. Grab them while you can. Going cheap for CSX! Gonna cost double for the crews. no more hi dollar pools for old men with seniority! Take your crumbs while you can! Hope you been saving your nickles and dimes old heads. It's gonna hit your wallets hard. 

 Name: Hat E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 04 February 2018 Conductor Save your judgemental bullshit. You probably stay displaced don't take notification or guilty of stealing time. You don't know who needs Fmla. Go fuck yourself. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 04 February 2018 You are a worthless turd if you use FMLA for anything other than what you have FMLA for. If you use FMLA whenever you don't want to work then you should be fired. FMLA is not for that. Most of us can't just decide we don't want to go to work and not get points for it. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 February 2018 Would the conductor on Amtrak been able to see the target on the switch ,and dynamite th brakes ?????? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 February 2018 FORGOT TO THROW THE HAND SWITCH!!!Are you serious! I thought things were bad over there, but really! Doesn't the dispatcher get involved on confirming with the crew that all switches and derails are lined normal. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 February 2018 ME Tell the truth. That assessment is dead on accurate. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 04 February 2018 Info on Cayce crash........signal suspension in effect at the time. . CSX crew gave up the track but forgot to restore the hand throw switch. 

 Name: Hunters ghost E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 February 2018 http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/04/us/amtrak-south-carolina-crash/index.html Heres the artical the csx train was believed to be empty, sitting idle. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 February 2018 New 2018 CSX revised physician certification Blackout dates: New Year's Eve ,New Years Day,MLK day, Super Bowl, Mardi Gra, Valentine's,Mother's Day, Father's Day, Good Friday,Easter, Memorial Day, 4th of July,Labor Day, Halloween,EHHarison day, all Saints Day,Thanks Giving,Hanukkah, Christmas Eve,Christmas Day, Friday, Saturaday,Sunday,Monday . 

 Name: CYA E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 04 February 2018 Scheduled PTC Outage. Signal suspension. You know what happened. Put the pieces together. 

 Name: FMLA E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years Posted: 04 February 2018 Lets see how many worthless turds use FMLA today for the Super Bowl and then cry victim when they get caught. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 February 2018 Louisville Hall and Staley today both on the yard xtra board and both took jobs not in the yard. Thanks company suck asses, CSX appreciates you but you are screwing over your union brothers. 

 Name: Stopstopstop E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 04 February 2018 CSX better hope to hell this isn't the same siding that was in a Trains column by Don Phillips a few years ago. Amtrak had a good signal into an occupied siding, I believe. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 February 2018 I now understand the two dead are from Amtrak, my condolences. From the new pictures Amtrak traveling south was diverted onto the siding going head on with the CSX auto train. Don't know if the CSX train was occupied or stopped or tied down. Tragic loss. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 February 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFe7s0WQ_tY Amtrak CSX accident 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 February 2018 Hey guys, I've seen some pictures of the accident between a Northbound CSX auto train and a southbound Amtrak train at an overpass on Charleston Highway near Dixiana Rd in South Carolina. Doesn't look good for the CSX crew, don't think they would of made it from the damage to the lead unit. From the pics looks like three tracks, did the Amtrak train derail or was it a head on, hard to tell. It really brings it home. My condolences to those that were lost. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 03 February 2018 Louisville Starks assigned to the yard xtra board and taking road jobs. Thanks Starks 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 03 February 2018 Webconnect.csx.com 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 February 2018 Hey guys. Can anyone tell me what the site is to access the mainframe? I had a shortcut on my old phone, but had to replace it and can't remember it now. 

 Name: Brownhornet E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 03 February 2018 Sick Agree 100% and how about the secrecy on the hourly rate.. Why weren't we told what HH offered. We should have had a say I that too. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 03 February 2018 Let's set a date to walk off the job. At least it would bring great attention on the national news. Csx would hate that but at least the might think twice before pulling another stunt. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 03 February 2018 This latest stunt of harassment and intimidation with fmla mark-offs make me want to walk of the job. Who's with me? 

 Name: Willy E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 February 2018 12 laid off fm at my terminal. Looks like scare tactics doesn't force people to work who have issues. 

 Name: Brown Hornet E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 03 February 2018 Cond Lol thanks Easy Money Great I want all of you to sue the hell out of them. Good to read you guys are talking to the Dol too. I'm not on Fmla but who knows who will need it down the road. Even if I don't this goes deeper. If those basterds get away with breaking federal law it will be fuel on the fire for something entirely different tomorrow. This affects everyone on the rail with or without Fmla leave. I don't know if the union is doing anything but if they're not fuck them too. The Best to all of you. Give them hell don't let them get away with anything. NO FAVORS 

 Name: Cond E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 03 February 2018 MY FUCKING HERO OH MY GOD MAN! the only thing you forgot was the company trying to blame everything that goes wrong by their stupid mismanagement on the crews. Wasn't a damn thing you posted that isn't true. The public has no stinking idea about the crap that goes on. Those stupid foamers who stand by the tracks taking their stupid pictures just kill me. If they only knew how stinking wrong their wet fantasy dreams are. Maybe we should all stop and let them smell the nasty crapper and take a look at everything that's broke. Time to straighten these idiots out and get them over their little boy wants to run a choo choo and be famous fantasy. You got my vote if you run against the international rep of the UTU OR BLET! Out with old has beens and in with the new! 

 Name: BrownHornet E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 03 February 2018 1 board outrageous union dues sky rocketing insurance premiums with less coverage seniority applies to Vacation bids for first round only good claims not paid over 100 men wrongfully pulled OOS limits expanded unreasonable attendance policy keeps adding more responsibilities and work on the men having to wait on ride to the hotel having to wait to be picked up from the hotel 2 hrs pay for running their simulator waste of time sitting in their rules class that covers nothing be treated like a criminal in their "fair and impartial hearing" aka kangaroo court, show trial, tribunal. loss of 20 year boot program unpredictable work schedule with no napping no phone or any reading material unless phone helps the carrier on call for free no weather lay off no drinking in hotel on your on time having to run down mailman for not needed certified letters never knowing who your supervisor is day to day dealing with crew callers who don't know the agreement begging for a PB day ridiculous vacation pl caps Friday, Saturday, Sunday is just another day unless you mark off No overtime after 40,50,60,70 or 100hrs in week is insanity never knowing when you will be back home Turnover rate is off the charts and these sons of bitches want to fuck with us. Those of you who were wrongfully pulled OOS. I can not believe there has not been complaints filled with Dept. of Labor, you haven't raised hell with your union. And your not in talks with an attorney. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 03 February 2018 10 years yeah you're a real od head Jr. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 03 February 2018 Louisville, thanks union brothers Woods, Roten, and Staley for again taking a job that you didn't have to. STOP TAKING JOBS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO. THEY WILL NEVER MARK UP THE CUT BACK ENGINEERS, OR ADD TURNS IF YOU KEEP HELPING THE COMPANY! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 03 February 2018 We all fought hard to keep the caboose. Then when you seen what the maintance costs where to keep one caboose going for a year,it was a smart move by the company to scrap them. A lot easier to put sbu on tailend than a caboose. Then they got rid of the plain bearings etc. Down the road you might see one guy in the cab and he will set bad orders off or switch with a satellite..They have the technology they just have to sell it to the public and goverment to show it is safe. It’s coming!!! 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 February 2018 LE 10-20 It's difficult to go through all the changes. When the CSX merger went through between the SCL & Chessie System (former C&O, B&O, WM etc..) and kicked into gear we watched a lot of former C&O yards shutdown or reduced to crew change run through yards. Majority of our trainmasters were transferred or forced to retire. They leased off several former C&O branchlines & mainlines to a shortline railroad. In just a short couple of years we lost road switchers, locals, transfer jobs, and yard jobs. Then they moved most of our work to another terminal. We still owned the jobs but if you wanted to work them one had to move 4 hours away. CSX decided to not offer union employees any moving packages for the hardship. This was all done in the 1980's & 1990's. Technology wiped out a lot jobs. Clerks were replaced by computers, crew callers & train dispatchers were moved to JAX etc... I read people on here blame us for the loss of the caboose. I still don't understand that logic. No one could stop it not the union certainly not any of us. It's technology. Seems every time there's a change higher up bad things happen. I owned a lot of CSX stock last year. I started selling after Hunter Harrison & Mantle Ridge. Price went up an in my mind it artificially inflated. I finally sold the last of my shares when HH passed away. This idea of selling off parts of CSX was to troubling. None of them take in the human factor. Good Luck to everyone. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 03 February 2018 I have been with CSX for most of my adult life. I’ve chased this job from place to place knowing that when I gained the seniority that I would eventually be able to hold a job close to home. I came to a point in my life where I’m sure most have been where I decided it was time to look for a career not a job. I paid the money for school took the chance and joined the CSX railroad. My thinking was the railroad has been around forever good pay good retirement but bad schedule and after hiring in questionable at best work conditions referring to the way people are treated. Since joining the railroad I started my adult life so to speak got married had kids etc. The railroad has been good to my family and I financially and been here long enough now I couldn’t imagine myself doing anything different. Then what seems like overnight huge changes to the point where I may not have a job tomorrow. Don’t get me wrong I’m like everyone else I complained about claims and pay as well as unfair treatment. I swear mid level to upper management have no regard for their employees for the most part or that’s how it seems. But with all that being said I need my job. I have always done what I was paid to do. I work the XB and the pools I’m not a kiss ass my outlook has always been out of sight out of mind. I put my claims I when the agreement is violated just to have them denied like everyone else. I guess what I’m saying is in a way I’m scared of losing my job so a elite few can reap the benefits of an inflated stock price. I don’t think there will be much left of CSX when they are done. Best of luck to all. 

 Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 02 February 2018 Any word from kanga Kourt. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 02 February 2018 Louisville Thanks Kircher, you're on the yard extra board but took a job not in the yard, thanks brother! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 02 February 2018 I heard she shops at dyke mart !!! 

 Name: LilChris E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 February 2018 RRJim I appreciate your post keep them coming. We all complain about our job but it gets in your blood. After X amount years it's part of who a person is. Some wont admit to it but the fact remains. If you like to stay in the loop and posting on here fills some small void. Then great we can all learn from your experience. Don't mind some kid who gets his kicks bashing others. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 February 2018 Class action boys an girls more voices together are better than one.... 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 February 2018 Moody law firm. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 February 2018 Name: Smarter than u E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 01 February 2018 Pines Someone should have told her to get the number off the side of the crossing box!!!!! Yeah ---stop right in the middle of traffic and jot it down. Oh, and that number goes to a FRICKING menu LIKE TIME MEANS NOTHING. Besides the crossing itself was calling ""COME FIX ME STUPID RAILROAD__I HAVE SHORT SOMEWHERE""" Jens Bang is going to be mouth wired shut freak if he isn't already. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 01 February 2018 MS. Sanborn is a daughter of a former csx board director. Pro-business, pro-company. Not an ally to RR labor. Has upper level management experience. Knows/understands RR operations pretty well - lots better than many give her credit for. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 February 2018 Hello all, what can you tell me about Cindy Sanborn as she is our new regional vice president on the western region here at UP. I see she is not married or have any kids. Humm! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 01 February 2018 Most, probably all, public, maybe even farm crossings, over RR tracks in this country have a USDOT number. Could be on an older hard to see metal sign\tag nailed to an older wooden x-buck post -- or now days, a much more modern sign attached to one or more, of the posts that flashers & gates are mounted to and these signs have the crossing no., the RR milepost location, & an emergency phone no. to call. Every FNG encountered was not informed of this by Einstein know-it-all instructors at training. Safety First. 

 Name: Duck E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 February 2018 Any news from kangaroo court today? Did your union rep urge you to sign a waiver? Please share any information. 

 Name: E-mail: T Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 February 2018 Csx stock has been, as predicted, stagnant for almost a year. The initial gains after the announcement of Harrison going to become CEO is all you get, nothing in precision scheduled railroading has worked to boost stock. July 1st 2017 stock was around 54.50, today it's around 56.50. In 9 months there is a net gain of about 2 bucks per share. If you had 100k bucks or 1834 shares on July 1st 2017 then you made a gain of $3600 in the last 9 months. This is considered underperforming compared to the majority of other stocks during this same period. Csx stock did it's thing based on the notion of ehh, but nothing based on performance. It's over.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 February 2018 Or maybe the dumb bitch should’ve, maybe, idk, googled it???, Amtrak on CSX tracks makes it CSX fault??? Foamer news again, you fat fucking slob of a man. I think everyone should refer to you as Robert the Hutt from now on, peanut butter smelling bitch   Name: Smarter than u E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 01 February 2018 Pines Someone should have told her to get the number off the side of the crossing box!!!!!   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 February 2018 http://tucson.com/news/national/drivers-say-safety-arms-at-crash-site-seemed-to-malfunction/article_12ff671f-fa64-5217-8cf3-7cca7fcc89ea.html Drivers say safety arms at crash site seemed to malfunction ..."It was a weird up-and-down thing," she said. "Then the next day, the accident happened at that intersection."... ...She said she would have called about the malfunctioning arm on Tuesday, "but who do you call? No one knows."... Let's see. Amtrak full of politicians takes out half of Congress on CSX tracks and Congress was going to ex-CSX Greenbriar and the posts here by foamer goofballs are on FMLA--- FOAMER MONKEYS LOSER ASSHOLES   Name: Fuckbrianmurry E-mail: Gofuckyourserlfmurry.com Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 February 2018 Chief ass clown on the great lakes and Albany division Brian murry is calling all the trainmaster Incompetent because the employyes dont fear them at there jobs. Told a trainmaster who had a injury in his terminal that the employees don't fear him, that's why they are reporting injuries. If they fear him they wont report injuries. Someone needs to record this assholes saying these things to have proof of his bullying tactics. I know next time i run across him My phone will be recording !!!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 February 2018 Ape I don't know of anyone yet but they will terminate almost everyone. This was not an investigation. I was not allowed to show any proof of my absence. They constantly stated how I was guilty of dishonesty and that I misused the leave. It was truly a "Show Trial" they are just going through the motions to convince themselves and try to wear you down. Said there would be a decisions in thirty days. The decision has already been made. It's all show. This will have to be fought in court.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 01 February 2018 Well has anyone had there ruling from there previous investigation for fmla misuse anyone terminated yet.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 February 2018 they're still pulling men out. I hope they get their asses sued. Some received warning letters in the mail some did not. Some had recerts requested some did not. All had their Certs approved. Red over my physicians cert that they provided. I haven't came across the part about blackout dates.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 February 2018 Thanks Easy Money for the post all need to read. all should read post by Easy Money Name: Easy money E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 31 January 2018 No, I didn't even want to glare at a waiver. After 5 hours of repetition, of listening to some woman on conference call read out the system notices and saying how you are a violator and that you caused all of the things to happen pertaining to the sanborn letter. Ughh, I'm already tired again of thinking of today... it's basically their little court, you're lc will present good evidence and the company puppet will over rule, it's really a comedy. its just a big waste of time, set through it and keep your cool, they want you to come unhinged. All and all they're blindly reaching for shit, hoping you'll slip up and incriminate yourself. That's all for now, sorry if that didn't help, I'm taking a mental vacation for a while. ..   Name: Blinddog E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years Posted: 01 February 2018 Boys you getting hoodwinked. Better be calling somebody. Boss can't fire you boys for taking leave. I done called told whats going down. Taken off over the holiday done fired me. Will I wait. No I am making all the calls. You should to. Bring attention to the situation.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 February 2018 Cond 10-20 It would seem if you have over 10 years you would know road jobs are considered or were considered 7 day assignments. That's why the road doesn't get holiday pay. I said "were" considered 7 day seeing now a days there is the FRA mandate of time off after working 6-7 consecutive days. But CSX and all the railroads have found a loophole to bypass it. You want the holiday pay then take a yard job right before it. Only thing you have to be is marked up and work the job the day before the holiday and the day after.   Name: Reality E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 01 February 2018 All crews Get over it. You have no choice. Your working conditions and work rules are going to change whether you like it is not. Your all to big a pansies to do anything about it. Your professional bitchers and that's all. Your LCs can't do a thing about it and they know it. The GCs are in the carriers back pockets. When was the last time your union leaders at the international asked any of you what you thought about any of these changes. The only time you here from them is when its time to negotiate a new agreement. How many side letters have been made without one question presented to the members? ALL OF THEM! The union's own you and don't give a shit what you think and they don't care because they know you won't do a damn thing about it. So just pay out the ass on those over inflated union dues and live with it. You got federal rights that protect you from union abuse. There's groups out there that can help you with protecting your rights as members. Do some homework. Make an appointment with a labor law lawyer. Do something other than bitching. If not then suck it up.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 31 January 2018 Courts have ruled that managers and supervisors can be held personally liable for FLSA violations. And now, in a new twist, courts are saying they can be individually liable for FMLA violations as well. ... And employers can be held liable for FMLA violations — even if those “employers” are individuals within a company.Mar 22, 2017 Have them included as defendants.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 31 January 2018 I remember the company telling me that I got 11 paid holidays in my interview. Guess what? Only if you are in the yard where there are few jobs.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 31 January 2018 DO NOT SIGN A WAIVER DO NOT SIGN A WAIVER DO NOT SIGN A WAIVER IT SCREWS YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE CONTACT THE DESIGNATED ATTORNEY   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 31 January 2018 Hey bobby, guess which complete moron was at fault? A garbage truck driver should know more than anyone because he is supposed to be a professional driver. If there are tracks, even with lights and gates, even without them, stop and look, and if there's an obstruction, then fucking listen!! Stay the fuck away from our tracks if you're too stupid to follow those very simple instructions. Fucking idiot!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 30+ years Posted: 31 January 2018 Robert Pines, apparently you don't read your own linked posts??? You just see something about a crossing accident and get post happy!!! I guess you think it was the trains crew at fault, since the crossing was fully equipped with warning devices. You do realize that locomotives don't have steering wheels??? Or stop on a dime like a Honda Civic??? How are you even related to anything concerning the railroad? I think you're just some fat slob in a dirty wife beater that has peanut butter stains on it, because that's where you wipe your hands, maybe some caked in your patchy week old beard   Name: Ex disp. E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year Posted: 31 January 2018 Ricardo How about a name on that. There were notes out on the st.Louis line dispatchers bulletins about Cone yard moves. Your LC should have been checking on that. In fact I believe one blet LC named Bob was supposed to be getting the scoop on it. What did they find out for you??? How come a TM is telling you this crap. Who was the TM?   Name: Laughing E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 31 January 2018 Screw you numb nuts. This Railroad isn't the same as when I hired on. It was one of the best places to work. Over time and mismanagement caused this company down fall. You are a puppy and your mom should have swallowed you..!!!!! Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 31 January 2018 Remember when you hired on, and you all at the interview said you would do anything for the company if you were hired. Remember the ass kissing?What happened to that attitude LOL? View This Article   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 31 January 2018 I don't recall that. I remember being lied to. They were hard up to find anyone to come out here. Now there are more men than what's needed. So they thinks they can kick the shit out of you.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 31 January 2018 Remember when you hired on, and you all at the interview said you would do anything for the company if you were hired. Remember the ass kissing?What happened to that attitude LOL?   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 31 January 2018 Pinenutz How's that The RRs fault? Place blame where it belongs. Not where you want it.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 31 January 2018 Name: Mayihaveanother AKA JBL AKA JENS BANG---AKA L@N goofball ---your the one acting like a retard wasting time. http://www.whsv.com/content/news/Train-carrying-GOP-House-members-crashes-outside-Crozet-471966903.html Betcha this gets some safety attention. Truck takes out big boys going to ex-CSX Greenbriar.   Name: Ricardo E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 January 2018 Roselake guys, TM here said exoect to take trains across the bridge into Missouri like they did in the Conrail days. And do it for free   Name: Tourettes E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 January 2018 I got the Tourettes   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 31 January 2018 bob pinenutz you must be one board dude. shoote me some ideals how waste time my bruther. howd you past tha time aother then posten bs on hear.   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 31 January 2018 inybodie got terminaeted yet.. I"am bout too lose my mind. tha first tyme I be gettin board. I gots money just don't no what else to do. any ideals from my dogs. got my lottery money my employement money treyed to draw redbored but they not haven it said it don't cover that sort of thang. mite take a trip go to Dizney Land or somethan shoot me some ideals   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 31 January 2018 http://www.whsv.com/content/news/Train-carrying-GOP-House-members-crashes-outside-Crozet-471966903.html Betcha this gets some safety attention. Truck takes out big boys going to ex-CSX Greenbriar.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 January 2018 Sims I don't have FMLA and I think your comments about FMLA are bullshit if you don't like it go get another job I am standing beside my fellow railroaders because our union won't .......   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 31 January 2018 Day????????.??? Gonna chill at the crib. Be counting my greenbacks. Won 9 grand last night on Luky 9s scratch off. Be party tonite. Life be good at my Casa. Gonna gal to Applle bees for Lunsh . Meating a lady I meet online. I thank she's a reel blonde. Fingers crossed. Update laters dogs.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 31 January 2018 Anyone receive there final decision after there investigation for fmla misuse what's the outcome been 30 days should be up on some.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 31 January 2018 Always remember the Union Rep lawyers are probably railroad bought devils in disguise. Sure they might get a one cent on a dollar settlement a go for the juggler lawyer would get.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 31 January 2018 Hmmm---Guess the old SMART officer who thought a rat trap sized sign two miles before dead mans curve got promoted. RAIL SAFETY AND COMPLIANCE OFFICER SMART, a new commuter rail service in the Northern San Francisco Bay Area is seeking an experienced rail safety professional with extensive knowledge of Federal Railroad Administration regulations and reporting. Position is responsible for the planning, management and implementation of overall safety plans, programs and practices and for the successful delivery of all SMART and FRA training requirements/programs and certification programs. Salary:$112,382 - $136,614 EOE Contact: https://www.calopps.org/smart   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year Posted: 30 January 2018 word! work don't work I make the same and work the same no matter who is or isn't marked off.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 30 January 2018 I don't give a shit why or when anyone marks off. Keep a few low men working.   Name: U2 E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 30 January 2018 Barlow this is you I think it's funny the same ones bitching about protected Fmla layoffs. Are the same ones who layoff Union, company business, step up take a call, step up take a call as an engineer, stay displaced, don't take notification, wait around to tie up, to steal over time, to catch their off days or to miss a bad job. Drag ass running or drag ass to let the next Crew do the work. Who deadheads make multiple stops for smokes or any other BS. We all have set standards for others that we alone don't measure up to. The hypocrites run deep on the rail.   Name: Slice E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 30 January 2018 Simms You're a company Cunt.   Name: 11thMEU E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 30 January 2018 Barlow I for one have PTSD. I'm sure that I'm not alone. So shut the fuck up bitch.   Name: Barlow Sims E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 30 January 2018 Nobody really cares about the 100 FMLA guys because we all really know its a bunch if crap. Instead of either working like men, or using your caps points you guys want to act like cripples that have had some right taken from you. The rest of us have to work to support our families, not risk our jobs because a bunch of morons abused fmla for xmas. Grow up   Name: ul E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 30 January 2018 Four kids off displacement. Three of them not taking notification. Always playing their games screwing the rest of us. That's better than the 9 who were displace all weekend alongside our lc.   Name: Gibby E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 29 January 2018 When EHH blamed T&E pushback for failed PSRR. The UTU Smart denounced his accusations. When CSX pulled over 100 men OOS for alleged Fmla abuse. The UTU Smart posted on their website designated counsel who are instructing members how to proceed. Thank You SMART. Where is the Blet?   Name: Ladder E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 29 January 2018 https://smart-union.org/news/consultation-being-offered-for-those-targeted-by-csx-fmla-investigations/ Here you go give them a call.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 29 January 2018 I just show ape,to get on the site. I do not work at CSX. I work at another railway. FYI   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 January 2018 To tell this is a Jens Bang aka L@N dispatcher and 90% of the other posts FOAMER site Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year sez ...I’m a unionized employee at the railroad... Then Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year sez ...The ceo you have is the same guy... It would be WE have not YOU have idiot. Now how about the rat sized speed limit sign in Washington St. two miles too soon and no real speed limit signs along any tracks. No fog lights---Theft/overcharges on crossing equipment? CSX 99 kills in 10 months? SAFETY THINGS FOR A SAFETY THREAD   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 29 January 2018 Just remember also guys,#MEETOO is another weapon to get you!   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 29 January 2018 Day F if I know Tribunal is set for this weak. anyothers have one this weak. I be haven a bowl party. My Eagles goint to the Ship baby. don't want to go back before Christmas. gots all kinds of stuff too do.   Name: Louisville E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 29 January 2018 A cutback engineer on the conductor yard xtra board has taken a job as an engineer, thanks WEBB. Keep it up and they won't have to mark up any cutbacks for a while. Louisville doesn't need the company to destroy our jobs, we have enough morons doing it voluntarily.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 28 January 2018 Can't believe someone hasn't went postal at CSX. It's gotta be coming and hopefully it's on upper management.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 28 January 2018 I’m a unionized employee at the railroad. This is one argument I hope I’m 100 percent wrong. The ceo you have is the same guy that will try anything he can to get his way. I seen it with disbelieve , and it shock all us railroaders. Don’t think for a minute these people won’t go to the government to try and change the rules. They are ruthless bunch and will stop at nothing to get there own way. Never say never.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 28 January 2018 They will only call people back when every one are all working. Trying to force the companies hand by not taking work when your able to is your decision. But don’t complain when non union people are eating your lunch.   Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years Posted: 28 January 2018 So I just read something that I firmly disagree with. Telling the guys to take calls while people are furloughed is WRONG. If your mind set is, take the call or they'll find someone who will, where do you stand with your union members out of a job? That kind of shit feeds right into managements hands. Taking calls and doing favors is not okay. We all know the games they play. It's up to you to stop being so damn stupid and answering every call. And if you want to be a greedy prick while people are out of work thats your problem except it might also back fire in your face one day. We all know who does it all the time. Bout time for some to learn the hard way!!!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 January 2018 Don't be surprised if the ones who have signed waivers either get fired once returning to work or next time for marking off.with no leg too stand on cuase they admitted to misuse of fmla .good luck   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 28 January 2018 U idoits keep signing waivers that's what the company wants .for the weak...don't give in we stick together   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 28 January 2018 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cp-rail-engineers-training-1.4046049 Forced to take training.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 28 January 2018 You should thank the guy that steps up and goes to work. Not bash him,im telling you as a guy that witnessed what will happen if guys don’t go to work for these moves. Foote will train all the I.T. People and managers that o run the trains. They did it in Canada and other places. Foote and Creal are all for it. Creal will not take this practice off the table in negotiations,these ceo s dig in and hold there ground. You have to take the calls to protect these jobs. Don’t give them an excuse to use other people. !!!   Name: Come on man! E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 28 January 2018 And again in Louisville we got another sukka today (Gibbs) assigned to the yard xtra board and took a job NOT in the yard. Keep it up idiots and watch what happens! Company suck up.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 January 2018 I for one after being off work for sleep apnea am glad to be back at work, but at the same time I look forward to the day I can retire from the R.R. after 26 years I just want to do something else. Number one thing is retire with your health, get any medical procedures done before you leave, put your financial house in order, do the things you have always wanted to do, keep busy, enjoy time with others. The time will go by so fast, you'll wonder where the time went, make the most of it, it only comes around once.   Name: Kitten E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 28 January 2018 The firing question Yes, companies can fire an employee who’s on intermittent FMLA leave. Despite the fears of many employers, FMLA doesn’t confer some kind of special dispensation for workers who exercise their leave rights. OBVIOUSLY, workers CAN'T be FIRED FOR TAKING LEAVE. When an employee on FMLA leave is terminated, the DOL decrees that the burden’s on the employer to prove the worker would have been disciplined or terminated regardless of the leave request or usage. https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/ FILE A COMPLAINT MONDAY MORNING IF YOU BELIEVE YOUR RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED! DON'T SIGN A WAIVER WASTE NO MORE TIME MOST ATTORNIES WORK ON CONTINGENCY THIRD PARTIES CAN FILE A COMPLAINT   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 January 2018 Lester It's the individuals responsibility to contract their union LC to notify them of a charge letter & being taken OOS. Someone doesn't have to have the union represent them it's their choice. It wouldn't be a wise choice. Spout your anti-union BS someplace else. There are time limits that CSX or any railroad has to adhere to when they do charge someone. If they exceed those limits of a hearing the charges are dropped and usually the person gets all back pay. It sounds like CSX is playing this game. The attitude of "if you want time off we'll give it to you". Then most likely they'll try and deny the pay for time loss. It's a game, it's always been a game. Nothing new it's been going on forever.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 28 January 2018 The union said it would never happen in USA. That CSX will train managers to run the trains. Time will tell if Foote will go that way. They layoff so many people that when it gets busy they use managers to run trains. Seen it happen with cn cp. They are still doing it till this day.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 January 2018 If it were mandatory for you to answer the phone and take a job that's not covered by your board the we would all have to constantly monitor every board (road and yard). I could be first out on the yard board with nothing being called for the yard for the next 8 hours and decide to go get my oil changed and as soon as my truck gets on the rack I get called for a road job and I have to take it, yeah right that's not how the extra boards work. The company should properly staff the boards with ample numbers or suffer the consequences of missed or late trains. It is not our responsibility to ensure that there are enough employees to keep the trains running period. CSX will trim and trim as long as we allow it. Make a stand and DO NOT "help" the company, you are just a number that is it.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 January 2018 For the record, you DO NOT have to answer your phone and take a job outside of the board that you are assigned to. You absolutely DO NOT have to take that call. I have let the phone ring and miss the call and they eventually will put you down for a missed call but it doesn't stick EVER. The MC will come back off on it's own without you having to do anything. I have been through this a lot. If the MC were to stay on there then you have the Local Chairman get it removed because it is a contract violation. You bid on the board you want and when you are assigned to that board that is all you have to worry about, it is our agreement. Yes crew management does use scare tactics to try to get people to work jobs that they don't have to but it is only a lame attempt at getting you to take the call.   Name: Lester E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 27 January 2018 All OOS you best be talking to an attorney. Notice how your unions haven't been in contact with you. Do you believe they're working on this? Do not sign a waiver and do not settle for back pay. Keep all paper worked mailed to you. Keep dates, times and names of any contact with managers. Make a note of all derogatory comments by employees. Have you been treated differently or held to a higher standard? Have you showed proof to discredit their "honest belief" and they still refuse to reienstate you? Do not show weakness at their investigation. Stand your ground. Don't be bullied into a waiver or signing a resignation. There is nothing they would like more. By signing such it releases them and you would be entitled to nothing. If your union rep recommends signing. She is not supporting you. Good Luck   Name: Engineer E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 January 2018 Why, Apparently there's many that don't understand that crew management doesn't always ask you to step up but forces you to. Same thing as being called to protect trains that should be called off different crew base. They don't ask, they tell. And there's nothing you can do about, take a missed call, you think this union can or will have your back, think again...   Name: Tm E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 January 2018 Get ready!!! Avon crews get ready! Pool trains are getting changed asap! Block swapping is in the works and train profiles are changed. Intermodal trains will be doing more work and combined. Two are already in the works to be abolished. Union agreement has been changed as well. Welcome to the world of being used as J jobs with miles consumed if your called out of your home terminal off pool to work as dog catcher of to work an industry. NO MORE GOING TO HOTEL TO PROTECT YOUR TURNS. NO MORE GUARENTEED ROUND TRIPS OFF YOUR POOL! Ask your LC what happened to your rule 74. Carrier has you by the balls. Welcome to hell boys!   Name: Why E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 January 2018 Triplett, why are you taking jobs to help the company? You're hurting yourself and your union brothers? You're on the yard extra board but you took an engineer job not in the yard!   Name: U2 E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 27 January 2018 I think it's funny the same ones bitching about protected Fmla layoffs. Are the same ones who layoff Union, company business, step up take a call, step up take a call as an engineer, stay displaced, don't take notification, wait around to tie up,steal over time, to catch their off days or to miss a bad job. Drag ass running or drag ass to let the next Crew do the work. Who deadheads make multiple stops for smokes or any other BS. We all have set standards for others that we alone don't measure up to. The hypocrites run deep on the rail.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 January 2018 Somebody give Robert Pines attention, he's throwing a temper tantrum, his cock shaped pacifier fell out. This is a safety thread!!!! I want my mommy!!! Waaaaaa waaaaa waaaa. FYI, foamers talk about sd40's and shit, you're probably a foamer your damn self, quit being a bitch... and I agree with rrjim, at least you're getting a damn backpay, geez...   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 27 January 2018 LOL! I seen it all now. People complaining over a backtime check. Something railroaders haven't received in decades with contracts. It wasn't going to be a big check maybe$2000 +/- depends on a persons earnings for that timeframe. It's better than nothing. Which is what happened for decades nothing. Only way to get a contract back then was to give up something and backtime was one. That was alright after 2-4 years without a contract it was great to finally have a pay raise. I don't blame the union I blame politics. Whoever controls the politics in this country controls the boards that govern like the FRA, NMB, STB, NTSB etc... 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 27 January 2018 CSX_SUCKS is a run away train with goof ball foamers babbling about shit that don't amount to a hill of shit on a safety thread and no oversight. 

 Name: Rain man E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 January 2018 Heads up Louisville, rumor is the hit squad is back and looking for more P.S. Steve is a chump that can't run a terminal 

 Name: Who farted? E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 26 January 2018 So the back pay? Normally I have 5% of my check put into my 401k, so all this time that 5% going in would have been more each check going into my 401k. The markets have performed exceptionally well over the last year or so and I would have made money on my 401k contribution that was not contributed because we went without a renewed contract. My back pay (chump change) should have been to account for that as well. WTF? Also FYI google company bonuses from the Trump tax cuts. There is a list of companies cutting thousand dollar plus checks to their employees. Wal-Mart made the list, Starbucks made the list, hundreds more made the list. I did not see CSX on the list, I guess these greedy, greasy, turds don't think they can spare anything for the ones that make railroading happen. 

 Name: Im a snake E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years Posted: 26 January 2018 It's all dirty and this was planned. Cindy was placed there because she knows csx. Now when csx is bought up, they already have someone that knows csx. I could get into more detail but that's in a nutshell what's going on. The 8000 miles of track csx is selling is of no interest to up, once that's gone csx will be bought by up 

 Name: Pullmybleedrod E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 26 January 2018 Cindy Sanborn is now at Union Pacific. That is all 

 Name: tea E-mail: Employed as: Yard Master, for 10-20 years Posted: 26 January 2018 With all the corporate tax cuts. I'm sure are beloved RR will give us a bonus. I'm holding my breath and will keep checking my paystubs. 

 Name: 70hrwk E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 26 January 2018 Friday and you guessed it. Both Local Chairmen laid off union business today. About a dozen displaced playing their games. I'm tired of the abuse. The ones that work always have to pick the slack up. Constantly having undue hardship of working more than scheduled. Never knowing when everyone will disappear. 

 Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 26 January 2018 Robert Pines You a Bitch. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 January 2018 Hey guys, I'm Robert Pines and I love to suck dirty cocks to completion. With this being a safety board post, please remember to wear knee pads 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 26 January 2018 Issues with your pay check is a safety issue and good for this site.The dangers for some men if the check is not in the bank account. So the wife can get groceries etc. A man walks in the door and gets the frying pan across the side of the head. Du can’t you figure that out!! 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 January 2018 http://www.modbee.com/news/local/article196702599.html This is a SAFETY board post. No wonder you railroad idiots have no jobs. You can't read.Lay off ---pay check--and the bother suckapaw bullshit doesn't go here. Certfied special kind of stupid train driver gets the train bomb going so fast that it doesn't stop in THREE miles. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 26 January 2018 You should check your agreement,if you take leave from CSX and it’s granted. You can not take leave to work somewhere else. And if you are working at CSX.and have another job else where they frown on that because they feel your not rested for your job at CSX. And if you have job else where while working at CSX. And you say you where injured at CSX. They will investigate big time to make sure you did not get injured off the job. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 26 January 2018 Do you people REALLY know what giving CSX a waiver is? It takes all responsibility away from CSX and you NEVER go after them again. This is also called a RELEASE! Law, am I right? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 26 January 2018 I had an investigation. It was an absolute waste of time. They have nothing and they know it. Waiver offered I couldn't keep from laughing at them. I wish these silly assholes would terminate me. Then I can get the ball rolling. For now back to my shop to make some extra cash. You fucks can't wait me out. I'm a tradesman with a small buisness. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 26 January 2018 LE 20-30 The backtime check wasn't going to be huge. Can't remember off hand what the increase was for 2016 & 2017 but a fair guess would be around 1 1/2% to 2% per year. Then it's only based on actual days worked during each year nothing extra. Be grateful you got any backtime check. I don't think there's been one in decades. Seeing it was a national contract it took members from every railroad to vote on it not just CSX. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 January 2018 Double J u can kiss my big donkey. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 25 January 2018 Sure would be nice if Anyone that ends up in a Kangaroo Court and\or any Court, regarding FMLA mark-offs, posts back here on this site - to inform all that may look at & read this stuff know how it all went. 

 Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 25 January 2018 I tell my LC to offer them dingleberries a Waiver! Lmfao good one 

 Name: OfferaWaiver E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 25 January 2018 When you go to Kangaroo court. Offer CSX a waiver. (If they pay double of all loss wages and post a written apology). You will in return not see them and their HR reps, and managers in federal court. 

 Name: Top E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 25 January 2018 Rambo and Easy Moey Much respect. Hope you get all the law allows. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 25 January 2018 Csx plans to run 61 trains a day through Indianopolis. That's hilarious. Csx is about to fall on It's face again. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 25 January 2018 Good job Rambo. 

 Name: Rambo E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 25 January 2018 I made CSX hold both boards on me for using my approved Fmla I didn’t back down or let them postpone the board they tried in order to review my doctor excuse I just removed my doctor excuse from evidence and made them hold the board with approved Fmla we don’t need a doctors excuse don’t let CSX push u around people and don’t sign waivers and show weakness I told them I’d see them in Federal court 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 25 January 2018 Did everyone get their slap in the face back pay? Most idiots voted in favor of this contract because that back pay was dangled in front of them. 

 Name: Waters E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 25 January 2018 Easy money You know of men signing a waiver to come back? If yes, what are those guys thinking? There really is a law firm getting a class action under way? Everyone down here keeps getting their show trial postponed. Carrier is just jerking the men around. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 25 January 2018 Last month Consumer's Report -JAN- talks about seriously bad flu season, says should stay home, protect the public. You don't get FMLA for flu, and it would help if saw DR. or emergi care, and/or got Tami Flu prescription. Still, it can raise an issue, and carriers position that you are NEVER off if needed is not correct. I'll bet CDC have similar article (Federal Health Agency) .RR employees travel, and so can spread flu from town to town. Flu adversely impacts other conditions you already have, BTW. 

 Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 25 January 2018 Day 27 Been out of town but I be bak at tha crib. Took a trip to Little place called Vegas baby. They take care of a man out their. With back pay thank will go on Sring brake. Bird Trex will go with. Bonus monies going on a cruise. Got it all laid out. May I have another? 

 Name: Backpay E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 25 January 2018 Back pay statement is on gateway now and is date as 012618, we will get 2 separate checks on fri. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 25 January 2018 http://www.tcrc76.com/News_Aug_24_2007_1.htm 

 Name: CSX E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years Posted: 25 January 2018 "Well folks this is my last post on here, I have officially quit CSX. I was furloughed October 2017 and found another job starting at $15.63/hr. I have been at my new job for 3 months and I love it. I have a Monday-Friday 7:00am to 3:00pm schedule, every weekend off, double time for holidays and time and a half if I want to work Saturday or Sunday. I have a company match 401k, and my insurance is 100% paid by the company. I work indoors and never get dirty or wore out. I always thought the railroad was a great job, and it use to be, but my eyes have opened up now. I initially was going to stay furloughed so I could one day come back if I wanted to but now I wouldn't even consider it. I turned in all of my CSX gear and officially quit so I could cash out my 401k. I pocketed 76K after taxes and fees. I am using that money to pay off almost everything I own. I will be debt free and free from the misery of CSX. There are better things out there people so don't loose hope. I didn't think$15.63 an hour was enough but my checks are not a lot less than at CSX. I make a little less but it is so worth it. Goodbye CSX family, it's been good but I found better" All I can say, IS awesome story!!!!! I hope more realize the dream. I finally got my 115K check today! I'm done with that bitch! F**k CSX!!! 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 January 2018 Well Dumbass you get a trip to Blanchard Idaho Jens Bang aka L@N Dispatcher tinker toy train farm. Just think you and him can wear your Dumbass and Dumberass t-shirts--hold hands-- and skip through his mommas tulips. Name: Dumbass E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 24 January 2018 Hey pines, were all 99 people too stupid to look before they crossed the tracks? Nobody cares. Go away. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 24 January 2018 Well folks this is my last post on here, I have officially quit CSX. I was furloughed October 2017 and found another job starting at $15.63/hr. I have been at my new job for 3 months and I love it. I have a Monday-Friday 7:00am to 3:00pm schedule, every weekend off, double time for holidays and time and a half if I want to work Saturday or Sunday. I have a company match 401k, and my insurance is 100% paid by the company. I work indoors and never get dirty or wore out. I always thought the railroad was a great job, and it use to be, but my eyes have opened up now. I initially was going to stay furloughed so I could one day come back if I wanted to but now I wouldn't even consider it. I turned in all of my CSX gear and officially quit so I could cash out my 401k. I pocketed 76K after taxes and fees. I am using that money to pay off almost everything I own. I will be debt free and free from the misery of CSX. There are better things out there people so don't loose hope. I didn't think$15.63 an hour was enough but my checks are not a lot less than at CSX. I make a little less but it is so worth it. Goodbye CSX family, it's been good but I found better. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 24 January 2018 Well boys and girls, this is the week we're supposed to get our back pay. Shouldn't it have already been in our earnings statements? What is the next move if we don't get it before the 31st? What is the company's penalty if they don't pay us on time? Is there anything, or can they just do what they want like everything else? The way things have been going, I could see them screwing us out of it somehow, or at least make us wait longer. What do you guys think? 

 Name: Dumbass E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 24 January 2018 Hey pines, were all 99 people too stupid to look before they crossed the tracks? Nobody cares. Go away. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 January 2018 SAFETY FIRST BOARD. ALL TRESPASSERS WILL BE SENT TO BLANCHARD IDAHO AND BE FORCED TO STAY WITH L@N DISPATCHER AKA JENS BANG AND MOMMA AND MANDATED TO SCRUB THE TINKER TOY TRAIN. CSX killed 99 people in 10 months this year which took 12 months to kill 99 people last year. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 24 January 2018 Trying to let the Clock run out. Don't be fooled. You have no friends with the company or your Union. https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx 

 Name: loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 24 January 2018 Crying cond. That's funny because when they came out with the notice that all paper pay stubs would discontinue and you would have to get them on line I called and raised hell because I wanted a hard copy for proof if their systems crashed. they blew me some shit telling me I could opt out of the on line stubs if I wanted and continue the paper form. I tried several times to keep the paper copies coming and the system would not take my request. I again contacted payroll and they told me that I had to get them via the gateway. 

 Name: OldHat E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 24 January 2018 UTU. Ble. What the hell? Get your head out of the carrier's ass. Why haven't there been any pushback over all the men being pulled OOS. If there has been. Why the hell the secrecy? This is major news, there should be postings on our union websites. If it's deemed the union was involved. We will hold both organizations and individuals accountable alongside with the carriers. We will not sit quietly on this matter. We pay more in union dues than any other unionized work force. We get very little in return. Do your job. Give the men updates and information on how to proceed. A union designated attorney should be speaking with these men today. The union should have filed a complaint with the DOL. Do your job or step down. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 23 January 2018 http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cp-rail-stephanie-katelnikoff-facebook-1.4498140 Second time fired 

 Name: Crying conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 23 January 2018 Well dumbass, since you're the last person in North America that doesn't have a computer, I guess you wouldn't know that you can get your W-2 in the mail and you can get paper pay stubs. It's a simple process on the gateway, which you can go on at work since you are afraid to shell out the massive amounts of money it takes to have the newfangled internet at your house. After all, we only have the ability to make 100k. I can see why a $64 a year tax deduction hurts you financially. Are you one of those railroaders that take light bulbs from the hotel to save money? One that keeps cups from Burger King so you can sneak a free refill with your dollar menu burger?   Name: JAZZY "J" E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 January 2018 For anyone wondering, this is 100% accurate and not up for debate....... When you are furloughed you have 4 months of insurance continuation starting after the last day of the month you last rendered service. For example, if you worked January 1st and got furloughed January 2nd then your insurance will continue to the last day of May, so that is just about 5 months total. If you got furloughed January 31st then your insurance will continue until the last day of May and that would be just about 4 months. I am posting this for the many, many, many furloughed already and the many, many, many, that will soon be furloughed. I am speaking only for conductors on the CSRA roster. It may be the same all around for every craft but I don't know 100% sure. I am 100% sure that this is how it works for CSRA conductors. This is not open for debate I know this is right so please save your energy.   Name: cond. E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 January 2018 cond. I will wait and see if trump pissed away our right to claim the internet on our taxes as a business expense since the company is slowly making everything we do or info we need to get by use of the internet(employee gateway). He does that and takes our meals that's it for me. March on unions to make them start mailing everything to us again, including copies of pay stubs! There are too may railroad workers in this country. His is pissing in the beds of a lot of people that could vote for him!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 23 January 2018 WW-2 info available online? [Like statements of earnings, etc?] Great -- need internet access and a printer for a hard copy. On my dime. OK, get 'em that way. I for one won't. Keep it up - what if it becomes the standard way? - less expense for the co. & less work for workers = more job cuts. They need to be sent hard copy via the USPS. I'll wait for the retroactive wage increase(s) too - we'll get it.   Name: SMH E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 23 January 2018 January 23, 2018 and Trainmaster David Benson is still a fuckin dumbass. Why hasn't someone busted him in the cocksucker?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 January 2018 2017 W-2 forms now available online......   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 23 January 2018 Hunter Harrison’s widow is happy with the board of directors gift from all of you at CSX.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 23 January 2018 It's easy to see that this company is more poorly ran then any years in the past.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 January 2018 That's hell of an idea. Where do these idiots come from? https://www.wsj.com/articles/csx-board-to-require-ceos-to-get-annual-physical-exam-1516724880   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 23 January 2018 With no real strategy to grow carloads or revenue and an investor who wants to cash out this long in the tooth leadership group will: Sell assets, Raise rates, & Fire people So to start: Spin off one third of the network and get rid of at least 20% more in people. It sets up nicely for a sale. Also, Capex is being reduced so more can be returned to the investors They are the dressing the “pig” up for market.....   Name: Justice E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 22 January 2018 How Do I File a Complaint with the Secretary of Labor? You may file a complaint with the Secretary of Labor. You should contact the nearest office of the Wage and Hour Division of the Employment Standards Administration, U.S. Department of Labor. Record your complaint in writing and then present it in person, by letter, or by phone. At that point, the merits of your complaint will be reviewed. If the Department does decide to take action, it will first try to solve your problem administratively by negotiating with the employer. If these negotiations are unsuccessful and if it believes the FMLA was in fact violated, the Secretary may sue the employer on behalf of the employee. https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 January 2018 I said this before,you young guys with no seniority I would register for trade school or some other education to secure a future. After reading that not a good sign.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 10-20 years Posted: 22 January 2018 http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2018/01/22-csx-reviewing-8000-miles-of-rail-lines-for-potential-sale   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 22 January 2018 Call Today https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 January 2018 Here is a free one. When you speak to your attorney be sure let them know how are layoff board works. Employers are not allowed to show why someone is off. The RR had a direct hand in a hostile work environment by providing anyone the information how or why someone is off. " QUESTION :Can one employee say anything to another employee that constantly takes FMLA and is putting a burden on coworkers? ANSWER No. This is absolutely inappropriate, and as an employer you need to put a stop to it. Federal law permits an employee to take up to 12 weeks of unpaid, job-protected leave under FMLA. That same law prevents the employee from being harassed by the employer or coworkers for using FMLA. Such actions are illegal retaliation and as an employer you face fines and other penalties if you permit an employee to do this. As an employer, it is your obligation to hire, train and schedule enough staff so that use of FMLA is not a major imposition on coworkers. The problem here is not the use of FMLA — it is understaffing." Better add this to annual pods training.   Name: Kitten E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 January 2018 Should a person call and file a complaint if their spouse hasn't? I can't decide if we should wait it out.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 January 2018 Mr joggeer you know what birds nest is. That is when all the rapping of wire comes undone and the traction motors smokes like a bitch on fire. Most joggers would just isolate that traction motor. A in coming train on the forth unit had a birds nest with a siezed axle. When we stopped the Train it had fourteen inch skid. The hogger said he never seen sparks of felt any thing. But he was home bound so most likely ignored every thing. He made it past the scanner with no alarms.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 January 2018 Your telling me you would feel a half ton truck, dragging on a 120 car loaded grain train. Don’t think so buddy. I dragged a empty hopper 7 miles on the ground before the air hose came apart. Other than that we did not know car was on the ground .w   Name: Loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 21 January 2018 Ape Bullshitz.. no way a truck was drug 3 miles. Me and any half brained engineer would feel the slack problem plus there would be something in 3 miles that would snag the truck or impact it. Would tear the hell out of outside ties and ballast. Try again.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 January 2018 They're dragging their feet. They know they are in the wrong. Don't take it sitting down. Don't put it off. 3rd parties can file a complaint. CALL ASAP https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 January 2018 Picture this loaded cab over cement truck tried to race train to the crossing. He lost hit the third locomotive. The truck derail two units and dozen cars. For the mans family the only thing found of him was tissue on some cloths that was what they buried. If he would of stopped in fifteen minutes he would of been on his way. I had to get off the wrecking crew going to these accidents got to me. They have little write up in news paper and no one really knows the impact of these accidents. This was before cell phones. Now it is just a regular thing.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 January 2018 A half ton at night hit a grain train highway speed. Got lodge between two hopper shoots. Burst into flames and was dragged three mile,and took out switch before train stop. Fire department put fire out,body of male was burnt to a crisp. We had to cut the truck out from under hopper car, I can still smell it to this day. They should make posters of these kind of accidents. Trust me it would get people’s attention.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 January 2018 I your driving a school bus you should be a professional driver. Your responsible for many lives. I live on the prairies. And the only thing is cross arms. And these bus should stop check both ways. Always no exceptions, that goes for truck drivers and automobiles. Life is precious and only takes a bit of time to look both ways. As a carman I have had to go to some of these accidents. And they could of all been prevented,if people pay attention..   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 January 2018 12,000 vehicles a day 10 school buses--no gates--no cantilevers--sight obstructions out the yazoo--roundels which came over on the Mayflower pointed wrong---speeding train in 10 mph zone. One of two a day and no stop and protect order on the train or train mounted gates. Why not fire the baboons running railroad safety from deep in the railroads pocket? Oh--the fake railroad company front for Norfolk Southern is just so delivery costs can be jacked up. The more handlers the more expensive. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 January 2018 Bus driver fired drives threw active crossing with bus full of children, train crew lucky did not collide with bus! Again there is no cure for stupid. http://fox8.com/2018/01/19/i-team-video-of-railroad-crossing-arm-on-top-of-school-bus-sparks-safety-review/ Did I do that?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 January 2018 https://globalnews.ca/news/3969515/lac-megantic-trial-verdict-not-guilty/   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 20 January 2018 Day 19 Woke up feed my bird. I'm making and eye patch. Dig out a puffy shirt. Try to teach Trex to sit on my shoulder. I need a wooden sword too. Gonna be a fun paid day off. And Bacon Waffles for brakefast. Updates later my brothers.   Name: liltee E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 20 January 2018 I'm sick of all the co abusing displacement. Constantly causing others hardships. You know who you are. I hope CSX comes down hard you all. This is out of control. We need the bid system now. CSX and the utu is just as guilty as the men letting this go on. Making others work more. Never knowing when everyone is going to disappear. We have around 6-12 displaced playing their games any given day. Not to mention local chairman laying off all weekends to mark up early Monday to catch a mail train. Or lay off to. Extend their vacations off days or to catch a holiday watch the Super Bowl.   Name: Captain Crunch Berries E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 20 January 2018 Mayihavenever, Your a dickhead for one the blonde you talk about that's a wig idiot next time you get in someone's pants and find a bigger package than yours keep it to yourself. FYI next time you fall in love check he/she for an Adams apple dick breath   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 January 2018 Three men found not guilty in 47 manslaughter charges. They should of never been charged. The ceo from USA. And other executives are charged with minor shit. If found guilty they get fine and six month in jail. I remember the day after the disaster the ceo made statement how much money he lost. Instead of trying to comfort the families. But there is a lesson here. The company had no problem offering up the conductor and other two employees as scape goats. When these ceo s and other executive try to get employees to lax safety rules etc. Record it report it go to your union. You don’t want to be charged with a crime, because the ceo wanted to save a few bucks. The jury was out for nine days. They came back not guilty they know who the real guilty parties are. But they where never charged. Be save no short cuts even if you are threaten to be fired.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 January 2018 Bus driver fired drives threw active crossing with bus full of children, train crew lucky did not collide with bus! Again there is no cure for stupid.   Name: yours truly E-mail: 10047 Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 January 2018 what is the youngest date working in buffalo what long pools are left to williard enineers // conductors . I have been off for years   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 January 2018 Day18 Another paid weekend off. Got me a pet bird today. Trying to teach him to say I like blondes and I'm suing those mofos. Snow fort about gone. Slide has melted. Have to find something new to do. Good to hear from u OG RRJ Kitten where you from girl?   Name: bollweevil E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 January 2018 HEY!, where is my back pay, all the experts in the crew room said we would be getting it today (1/19). well i guess they can earn another few days of interest if they wait until the 31st to payout. meanwhile I'm off FMLA.. FOUR DAY WEEKEND BITCHES.. #fuckfoote   Name: billydee E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 January 2018 I heard today they're going to try and wait it out until your insurance expires. Then place a waiver in front of you.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 January 2018 kangaroo court is over. everyone of you managers and hr personnel. Your names will be on the list of defendants. thank you   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 19 January 2018 File a Complaint today 3rd parties can file also https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 January 2018 APE 10-20, Hearing several line segments are up for consideration. Besides lines in the coal fields, some of the lines which have been mentioned are: Most of Michigan, which is no secret: Grand Rapids, Plymouth & Detroit Subs, Saginaw sub, Port Huron sub, St. Lawrence & Montreal subs, Decatur Sub, P&A, Bainbridge, & Callahan subs, IL & IN subs   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 January 2018 It does not matter what industry your in. There will always be those people that if they are given an inch they will take a mile. People that abuse the system are monitored, then they are called on abuse and pay the price. They are really in control of there negative out come!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years Posted: 19 January 2018 I am personally glad they are cracking down on FMLA abuse. We have had more than a few people at my location continued to call in FMLA (some for a day, some for months) and nothing wrong. One person that stands out always takes 2-3 months during hunting season for back problems (and has been seen during that period of time every day at his hunting club) and one for 3 years likes to take 3-4 months off for the spring-back problems (and was seen riding his motorcycle). While their fellow brothers have been forced to work OT everyday. Glad to say that these two losers were both fired last year.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 January 2018 May I I'm still here just on the sidelines. This FMLA issue is interesting. During my time on CSX FMLA wasn't an issue. There was only one person I know who had it, and that was for his wife's condition. I thought it was only for a family member who had medical issues. My niece educated me that it can also be used for the employee. I applied for FMLA in early 2007 when my Mom was put into assisted living and she lived 600 miles away. It was first rejected by CSX. Apparently it was reviewed again and granted but it was so restrictive it wouldn't of helped. If I can remember correctly it would of allowed only 3 days every 3 months so 12 days total a year. It was ridiculous first day driving 600 miles, second day there, third day drive back. My Mom passed on in late 2007 so no need for it.   Name: press E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 January 2018 CREWS Get real. You don't expect anything that comes out of Foote's mouth to be the truth. No better than a lying politician. He will say what he needs to at the time to make the stockholders happy. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing just as Harrison was a false disciple. Nothing is more dangerous than a man who claims to be religious and comes from a religious family being given the kind of power and control that Harrison was given. Now his followers are leading in his footsteps from the grave. Nothing is good for any of you.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 January 2018 More layoffs = declining service levels = sell CSX   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 19 January 2018 The extraboard is exhausted and there is nobody to fill a yard job so what do they do. They furloughed 10 more next week. Sorry customers; it's our poorly managed company.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 19 January 2018 Robert Pines occupation: cable installer Mugshots.com ID: 69908027 Age: 60 Home Address: Sullivan Arrest Date: 11/21/2013 Info: Robert Pines was arrested on the charge of Tampering With a Witness. A warrant was issued and he remains in custody.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 January 2018 https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2018/01/17/schumer-citing-d-c-report-demands-better-maintenance-local-rail-crossing/1040591001/ Schumer, citing D&C report, demands better maintenance at local rail crossing http://www.fra.dot.gov/Pages/press-releasesold/54.shtml Thursday, February 03, 2005 () The Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) has assessed civil penalties against CSX Transportation, Inc. for multiple violations of highway-rail grade crossing safety regulations related to a February 3, 2004 accident in Henrietta, New York where a train struck a vehicle and killed an elderly couple. Where was the criminal trial judge only for the CSX crew? If a real jury got the real story the driver caught in the trap wouldn't be going anywhere but to file a trying to kill me lawsuit against the state and railroad.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 January 2018 I'm going to do witchcraft and make Foote die like I did Harrison.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 January 2018 Foote worked under Hh at cn. What those two did here in Canada would of led to a prison sentence if they tried to do in the USA. Lots of derailments and record fatalities under those two. Then worked over cp Hh Minnie me creal is trying to still make cuts at cp. Foote will do what he can get away with. Might not be good for employees or CSX. But good for him and friends.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 January 2018 Foote said he wouldn't make any more disruptive moves like that of late E. Harrison closing 8 hump yards. Selling off lines and laying off 2000 more employees sounds pretty damn disruptive to me.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 January 2018 APE 20-30 What are the line segments being offered for sale in regards to your post?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 January 2018 Hearing the CSX line segments for sale or lease are being finalized and will be sent to G&W, Omnitrax, Watco along with others within the next two weeks.   Name: Karma E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 January 2018 As a note, according to Federal Law, (not the CSX Kangaroo court) Individual employees can also be held accountable for harassing or disciplining employees for using FMLA according to there Dr. approved leave. With this being said, make sure the Attorney also goes after not only CSX, but all employees involved in the investigation process. i.e... the manager of FMLA who makes the decision to charge said employee and the CSX Manager who signs the charge letter.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 1-10 years Posted: 18 January 2018 300 million paid out for 8 months 3000 jobs cut Customers alienated Boot program slashed Property sold off Locos stored Cars stored Hump yards shutdown Fmla scrutinized Weather mark off abolished Employees enduring undue hardships Key employees pushed out Internal investigation 100s cut back to craft 100s relocated People doing 2,3 or more jobs Local chairman being charged for Union buisness on property 2000 more suspected job cuts Corporate tax cut And a motherfucker wants to side with this company   Name: mayIhaveAnother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 January 2018 Day17 It be getting serious up in here. To whoever mentioned B&O Chairman has number to lawyer thanks. be calling today. HR let us know how you feel when you get cut in 2018 That be some funny stuff right their RRJ OG what up hadnt heard from u   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 January 2018 There is no cure for Stupid!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 January 2018 I posted on here before Christmas,smile as soon as you walk out your front door your on video. I now of an investigated. Followed a person 2000 miles to get him on tape down hill sking. Insurance fraud. They have the technology and track you from gps on your phone.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 January 2018 Thank you for the information regarding the waiver, just as I suspected. I also agree to NOT sign the waiver. Doing so is almost certain termination if one was to ever be investigated for FMLA abuse again. It also takes away all ability to sue, because you'd be admitting you did abuse your leave. I'm on my third twelve month period of FMLA intermittent leave, and I have NEVER received any "warning letters" concerning my actual use of FMLA leave. I know of those who have, though. CSX also requested me to re certify my FMLA leave due to an increase in the usage estimated by my health care provider. Not only did I complete the re certification paperwork(which has already been approved by the FMLA department), I had my health care provider write a letter stating my leave during the time period of the charge letter was in fact for my personal serious condition. Still no word from the company. As for the "honest belief" claim in defense of a retaliation lawsuit, it's really hit or miss, when you search online for the outcome. In a nutshell, the defense is that the company had an honest belief of FMLA abuse, and even if they are wrong, they can't be held liable in a retaliation lawsuit. BUT, everything you read online shows examples of where the company had some sort of actaul proof the leave was being misused. In our case, the only proof the company has is that leave was taken. Not that it was taken for other reasons, just taken period. During a certain time frame. I don't think it works that way. Neither does my lawyer. Best of luck to all involved. Please keep others in the loop as to what's happening. My lawyer is aware of all this. He has advised me on how to proceed if the investigation is completed. I have plenty of money to wait this out, even if it takes years. I will admit to nothing.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 January 2018 offered 30 day actual suspension. With time served going against it. They wanted me to admit I abused my leave. I did no such thing. I've proof on to top of my certification. So I told them there was no way I'd be signing a waiver. There were others also I dont know if any took their waiver. Also we had several in the last year who received "warning letters" stating they were using their leave not for its intentions. conclusion they are holding all who didnt receive said letter at a different standard. Be sure to tell your lawyer about these warning letters that werent received. They are trying to build their case on an Honest Suspicion. Which if they can it's near impossible to bring charges against them. Non union places of employment can fire let go their employees for almost any reason. The union shields us of this. So the honest suspicion rule is all they have. Only use your leave for it's intentions. Never post on social media. never talk to co-workers about your leave. Never forecast leave. dont do anything that could be videotaped an used against you. Your co workers will hang you if given a chance.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 January 2018 To whomever that was offered a waiver, would you care to elaborate on the specifics of said waiver? My investigation was over a week and a half ago, which was postponed after I submitted documentation from my health care provider regarding my FMLA use during the time period covered in the charge letter. My postponement date is still over a week away, and no word from the company concerning the documentation I provided. Thanks in advance.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 January 2018 Kitten I was offered a waiver. I believe several have been too.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 January 2018 Give them a call. 3rd parties can also file an anonymous complaint. https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 January 2018 Tax cuts, winning back business and layoffs. Looks like Foote is just as big of an idiot has Harrison.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 January 2018 More layoffs coming this year. So much for winning back customers. They will be the ones that ultimately pay the price. We are the only class 1 not hiring conductors and already have 4000 less employees then NS with the same mileage of track.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 January 2018 Robert Pines occupation: cable installer Mugshots.com ID: 69908027 Age: 60 Home Address: Sullivan Arrest Date: 11/21/2013 Info: Robert Pines was arrested on the charge of Tampering With a Witness. A warrant was issued and he remains in custody.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 January 2018 https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2018/01/17/schumer-citing-d-c-report-demands-better-maintenance-local-rail-crossing/1040591001/ Schumer, citing D&C report, demands better maintenance at local rail crossing http://www.fra.dot.gov/Pages/press-releasesold/54.shtml Thursday, February 03, 2005 () The Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) has assessed civil penalties against CSX Transportation, Inc. for multiple violations of highway-rail grade crossing safety regulations related to a February 3, 2004 accident in Henrietta, New York where a train struck a vehicle and killed an elderly couple. Where was the criminal trial judge only for the CSX crew? If a real jury got the real story the driver caught in the trap wouldn't be going anywhere but to file a trying to kill me lawsuit against the state and railroad.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 17 January 2018 Karma Thank you,will call in the morning.   Name: Karma E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 January 2018 Kitten, I just spoke to a guy in the B&O General Chairman's office yesterday. If you have been pulled OOS by CSX over FMLA, contact them and they will give you the # of an attorney that is filing a Class action Law suit against CSX.   Name: Kitten E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 17 January 2018 Has anyone filed a complaint with dept. of labor or contacted an attorney over Fmla?   Name: Monty Burns E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 January 2018 Other companies are giving out bonuses with their tax cut money. CSX? Layoffs...You'll get nothing and like it!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 January 2018 https://www.news4jax.com/money/csx-report-revenue-down-profits-up-more-layoffs-coming Possible 2000 more layoffs   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 January 2018 Day16. Still no word from the man. I think I'm gonna build snow slide coming off my roof today. I'm gonna have it going right into my pool. Do a little polar plunging. soup sandwich   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 January 2018 Flood them today. Don't wait to see what happens. It's been two weeks. CSX and your Union doesn't care that you were wrongfully accused. They don't care that your living on unemployment. The complaint is anonymous and even if it wasn't they would not come after you. That would be their great downfall. https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx   Name: Avon E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 January 2018 Way to tell on yourself moron   Name: eng E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 16 January 2018 Ape 1-10 Shut your mouth. I know and work with Jarod and I know he didn't post anything on this site. In fact he has made it clear he doesn't visit sites like this let alone post on them. You must be a tm or someone who he pissed off.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 January 2018 Mr Brown you fuck your fellow employees by marking off whenever. Think your smarter than ever one. Take your medicine bitch!!!   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 January 2018 Day15 show trial cancelled again.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 16 January 2018 I know Brown. This is a fake post.   Name: MayInothaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 January 2018 Yo - a few things.. I know .. 1) no one on here sent my posts to Human Resources especially the one with my investigation time and date and not by the people I called gay or wives with swinging dick 2) and I am not .. I repeat .. I am not .. afraid of losing my job due to that despite being warned ... I abused FMLA because it is ok to do 3) I am a highly marketable employee in the workforce if you can tell by proper English and grammar 4) wait... I am dead wrong about everything and those snow forts will come in handy to live in when I can’t make rent and those woman will not let me stay with them because I don’t have a job   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 January 2018 Idiots like Jared brown... Didn't even know he was misusing Fmla! Really? How dumb can you be? Then post on here like the company messed up by taking you out of service. You need some ointment dog, you got burned. Lol. Did your doctor get you Fmla for just in case an uncle died? Just so you know, marking off Fmla for any reason other than what you have Fmla for is Fmla misuse. Fmla is not for you to have a day off when you need it or just don't feel like working.   Name: Jared Brown E-mail: Jaredbrownblet121lr@gmail.com Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 January 2018 So csx says I'm a liar, that I miss used FMLA because I marked off over Xmas. What csx doesn't know is I had 2 two not 1 one but 2 family members die the week of Xmas. Both uncle's one died on 122017 and just 3 days later another died. So I get woke at my away from home terminal to a woman telling me "Mr Brown you are being pulled from service, have a nice day" yes she actually said have a nice day. Remember not to judge your brother's and sister's for using fmla, you don't know what's going on in their lives.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 January 2018 Well after 11 weeks I finally got back on the board, for being diagnosed with sleep apnea.This was after my conductor pulled the e handle on me for nodding off. All this was on video. Stay awake out there and try and help one another instead of what my conductor did to me.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 January 2018 Where's our money at, payroll?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 January 2018 I was twenty when I started the railroad,all A’s the older guys would talk about is there pention and the day they could retire. We where working afternoon shift on a Saturday. And there was a ball tournament going on in the field next to the railroad. The old guy told me that we will be retired at 55. Most the people playing ball with weekends off will work till at least 65. One of our members had a perfect safety record and had a two week holiday payed for to go to Hawaii..By the company. There are big benefits working for the railroad but we sacrificed a lot for it. The railway is a dangerous place to work,being safe and getting to retirement takes all your focus on safety.   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 January 2018 Cool mo d You prolly the homosexual just can't admit it to yo self. It's all good to each his own. call eap if you need someone to talk to before coming out they're there to help my gay brother. Peace be to you   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 January 2018 Mayihaveanother,if you make that kind of money and your single. Invest your money and. Retire early. I did fully retired at 55 and love it. It’s not how much you make it’s what you do with it. With my investments I have more money coming in than going out. Plus I get my railroad pention every month.   Name: Bonified E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 January 2018 Corporate office, for 30+ years So what is the amount of overcharges by CSX up to now?   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 January 2018 https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2018/01/12/drivers-beware-weather-wreaks-havoc-local-highway-rail-crossings/1027674001/ ...Railroad crossing malfunctions, of which there are hundreds in the Rochester area each year, usually leave nothing worse in their wake than a line of frustrated drivers... ..."Our signal personnel prepare for this, are highly trained in these operations and are prepared to respond immediately to such reports," she said... Highly trained? Some nitwit from New York with a big name title for signal maintenance for Amtrak started as CSX apprentice just 7 years ago.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 January 2018 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/appendix-E_to_part_240 http://csx-sucks.com/SiteDist.pdf Need a group to challenge the legality of Locomotive certification since the baboons running railroad safety completely ignore the 16.2 feet of sight lines needed per miles per hour of the train. Well that--level crossings for 30 feet both sides--not skewed---weather conditions---no feed back of crossing signals to the train--occupied crossings---no track video---etc...The piece of paper the killers hide behind might as well come out of a Cracker Jack box.   Name: Cool mo D E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 January 2018 Nope sorry your not and FAGS can get married now by law and adopt kids so what's the hold up   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 January 2018 Cool mo dildo Better get to work only 360 more payments on that double wide Trailer.   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 January 2018 I made over 90 grand in 2017. No wife no kids and no bills. I'm sure I'm better off than you dog.   Name: Cool mo D E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 January 2018 Mayihavenever, isn't your minutes getting low on your Obama phone hope so. Also you have 15 days till your next check and food stamp card.   Name: Fmla E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 January 2018 Fmla sitting at home without pay,does not seem productive. Good if you have issue where you are needed. But to sit at home losing money is no brainer!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 January 2018 MLK day = Fmla Day cheers to u all   Name: TM E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 January 2018 Other Are you blind? Are the trains running? Are the locals doing their work? Maybe they are all behind schedule but the trains are running. The customers are doing what they always do. Wait! They have been dealing with this horse and pony show for years and know how it works. The work force was cut and the trains are still moving. Maybe not as scheduled but they are still moving. Show us the proof that one train never made in out of the terminal and to its destination. Late trains are being doubled up and sent out. So prove your comment that there are not enough employees to run the railroad. YOUR FELLOW EMPLOYEES ARE TO THANK FOR THAT! They are the ones who are taking the calls off of their pools. They are the ones who are stepping up to make sure that the job they have still exist. They are the ones who are making sure CSX runs (no matter how far behind) and they have a place to work. Your crying will do nothing. It wont change a thing. The trains are running and your fellow workers are stepping up and making it happen. THATS THE FACTS!   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 January 2018 Day14 MLK Day and it's snowing . It sure is a good day. Big plans with the blonde neighbor and her girlfriend. As soon as her idiot husband goes to work. It's playtime till then I'll be hanging in my snow fort.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 January 2018 MLK day = Fmla Day , I love this company and country. Cheers   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 January 2018 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/appendix-E_to_part_240 http://csx-sucks.com/SiteDist.pdf Need a group to challenge the legality of Locomotive certification since the baboons running railroad safety completely ignore the 16.2 feet of sight lines needed per miles per hour of the train. Well that--level crossings for 30 feet both sides--not skewed---weather conditions---no feed back of crossing signals to the train--occupied crossings---no track video---etc...The piece of paper the killers hide behind might as well come out of a Cracker Jack box.   Name: Bonified E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 January 2018 Corporate office, for 30+ years So what is the amount of overcharges by CSX up to now?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 January 2018 It’s like cn cp they cut so many jobs,and same now at CSX.They will be forced to hire people back. As the pressure builds,they got there operating ratio number down but now reality will set in. That they can’t run a railroad with a skeleton crews.   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 January 2018 Pines Your post make me want to buy a bullet and rent a gun.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 January 2018 https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2018/01/12/drivers-beware-weather-wreaks-havoc-local-highway-rail-crossings/1027674001/ ...Railroad crossing malfunctions, of which there are hundreds in the Rochester area each year, usually leave nothing worse in their wake than a line of frustrated drivers... ..."Our signal personnel prepare for this, are highly trained in these operations and are prepared to respond immediately to such reports," she said... Highly trained? Some nitwit from New York with a big name title for signal maintenance for Amtrak started as CSX apprentice just 7 years ago.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 14 January 2018 All who were pulled from service for fmla need to file harassment and intimidation law suit.   Name: Sukkas E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 14 January 2018 Woods and Byerly, both on a yard extra board and both took a call they didn't have to! Wonder why more jobs get cut and more guys get furloughed? Why do the company favors when you only hurt yourself and everyone else in T/E? If the road board is exhausted don't take a call, make them miss the train so they will have to add turns!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 January 2018 Just in all will be reinstated by Wednesday.   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 January 2018 Day13 slept in woke up took care of business. Look out window notice I got work to do on snow fort. Gonna eat left over ribs for breakfast. Gonna ch cl Bonnie Crotch thanks Tamala. RRJim OG, RRWizard, keep pouring out the knowledge my brother.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 January 2018 transfer It use to be contacting a trainmaster at the terminal you want to transfer to, to see if they have openings. If they do then discussing it with your trainmaster. It's usually not a problem if people are furloughed on your consolidated roster. Might want to check to see if there are transfer forms in the GB section on the computer. If this is an advertised transfer then it should have instructions & contact information. It use to be if one is furloughed and does a transfer they can keep seniority in both locations till they stand for work in both locations for a year. Then they have to make a decision which to give up. I think that's changed having to give seniority up when transferring.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 In Canada if you have a hand gun in your trunk going to gun rage with all the paper work. With map from house to range you Are ok. If you go off the map from your house to gun range you get charged and lose your gun. And have to reapply after ten years. If you are caught with legal gun and you threaten someone you lose your gun and go to prison. There are 500 murders a year in Canada. Most are not with a gun. And the ones that use a gun have no criminal record why am I telling you this. I bought a foldable 22 cal rifle that came a part and folded into the stock. I could fit into my lunch box. I use to put my rifle together and shot gophers from caboose window How times have changed.   Name: Hot tamale E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 Mayihaveanother Have you checked out bonnie rotten by chance? That's good material, better than fox news stuff.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 If you point a legally owned gun at someone in Canada you go to jail for 4.5 years. The judge has no say..That is a hunting rifle, a hand gun your fucked. You get 4.5 years for threat with gun. Double if hand gun,most murders here are done with knife. Or guns brought in from USA.   Name: Well? E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 January 2018 Still waiting on that retroactive pay, csx. Hurry the fuck up   Name: Cool mo D E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 January 2018 Yeah they wanted to check out and see how the welfare system worked and they got a free Obama phone with unlimited data I work every day and can't afford it oh well fuck em   Name: frued E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 January 2018 Cool Did your. Mother run off with a brother? Did your wife run off with a Brother?   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 Day12and 3/4 reminded cool mo Dee of the swinging dick his old lady and or momma ran of with.   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 Cool mo Dee Why u be hatin? I'm sorry dog if yo old lady ran of with some swinging dick.   Name: Cool mo D E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 January 2018 It's alright brother you can come outta the closet there's a lot of Gay rights to protect you and did you tell everyone that your neighbor is an all male prison you have a snow tunnel to.   Name: Canada here E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 You people have better protections for the workers with your laws. My advise is don’t rub it into your employers face. Cause they will figure out how to change the rules if the rules are being abused. I’m third Gen. on the railway there was a time you got one day a week off. Don’t push it people don’t hold up multi billion dollar business with bs rights. Be smart protect your job and future. Artificial intelligence is coming. Don’t let it take your job.   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 Cool mo Dee You prolly be my idiot neighbor. Lol   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 Cool mo Dee You prolly be my idiot neighbor. Lol   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 Hell yeah bro the snow fort has a tunnel to my porch where my hot tub is. My blonde neighbor been all up in there. Her husband ain't got no clue what's up. I got flags, snow sentries on gaurd and a snow slide coming off my porch. Dog I wish I could post pics.   Name: Cool mo D E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 January 2018 To mayo have another I bet your a fat ass slob with a receding hair line and couldn't get any booty even if they died and willed it to you. Most people that talk about getting it like you are gay. You fatass bald homo lol   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 January 2018 Mayihaveanother, That snow fort you built is it pretty sweet? How many hot chicks do you think would fit in it? Did you take that hot blonde in there with you?   Name: Cool mo D E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 January 2018 Everyone please change the fucking subject from FMLA shit and marking off weather either go to work or don't who gives a diddly shit.   Name: Canada here E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 We drive in these conditions every year. If we get stranded we have extra cloths blankets etc. Now there are cell phones to call for help. 1982 before cell phones there was a car in the ditch just before the crossing. It was minus 45f these two women jumped out stopped our train we picked them up. High heels short dress small fur coats. The only thing that saved them is they stayed in there car till they seen us .We called for ambulance to meet us at next crossing. We saved there lives but one woman had to have both feet amputated. Don’t go out in dangerous conditions unless matter of life and death.   Name: Legal E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 January 2018 Crews If the state you live in has issued an emergency order to stay off the roads if at all possible and you feel it is to dangerous to drive to work, LC is correct in advising you to contact your crew management as soon as possible. Give details on the emergency order. If you are intimidated and they actually tell you that they will not mark you off weather and you must report or you will be charged with refusal To work or another form of discipline make sure to tell them very clearly and strongly that if you are involved in an accident and your vehicle is damaged or you are injured that you are putting them on notice that the company will be held liable for all damages. There have been several cases won in several states where employers ordered their employee's to report to work in dangerous conditions and they were involved in accidents. You must make sure you put them on notice and record the conversation. This will help ensure the conversation does not convieniently disappear. If you are involved in a accident make sure you have the local authority responding note in your statement why you were out driving and contact your insurance agency as soon as possible. Report the same. Names,dates and time of the conversation are critical especially if you are injured. Contact your union representative.   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 Day12 built a snow fort. Took care of my buisness. Making sno cream going try to get neighbor lady over to get n. Hot tub. Got wait till her old man goes to work. I'll keep an eye on the computer to see when he gets out. Will give updates. Over and out   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 This is how it is,do what is safe for you. Deal with the company paper work later. Your life is more important than CSX policies. It not hard to figure out.   Name: BillyDee E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 13 January 2018 Ape Why the hell are guys like you on here? It's CSX sucks. And you're obviously a company whore. Men tried to lay off weather because of dangerous driving conditions and were told to lay off SICK.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 The company ain't telling anyone to layoff for weather, you got it backwards dude   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 January 2018 Guys off for alleged Fmla abuse. Then company tells men to lay off SICK do to dangerous driving conditions. This company is a JOKE. Talk about hypocritical. Ergo what ever the hell is convenient. No ethics No Morals.   Name: LC E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 January 2018 CREWS If you have any supervisor or crew caller tell you cant mark off for weather and they tell you use a sick mark off then you should immediately let your LC know and call the ethics hot line and report them. It is a serious ethics violation for any supervisor or manager to tell you to miss use a sick day mark off. Marking off sick is supposed to be use for illness not for bad weather and dangerous driving conditions. If you are in a situation that you feel you can not drive safely then you immediately call crew management and let them know what is happening. Put them on notice that if you are called and conditions have not changed then you will not be able to come in. Tell them you are not refusing to work but are unable to drive in and request they send a PTI or Taxi to get you. If they refuse then tell them that you will try to come in and you will most likely be very late. Request the Crew managers voice mail and leave a message for them. Call your yard and tell them you will be late if you can make it in. It is also best to call the state police and ask if they have any emergency orders to stay off the highways. You should do this first before you contact CMC or any other supervisor. This way you can tell them there is a state emergency order to stay off the roads. Telling anyone to use a sick mark off is a serious violation of company policy. Do not let any supervisor intimidate you into doing this. Report them immediately!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 January 2018 Quit drawing attention to Louisville you morons.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 January 2018 Baltimore guys told same thing last winter. Must have manager authority to use weather mark off. Took it to the LC, next time tried to use it, same thing. Not sure where it went from the LC, but nothing changed. This year they told us there is no weather mark off, if you cannot make it in, mark off sick & take the points.   Name: Transfer E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 What steps would one take to transfer from one csra location to another csra location? Thanks in advance to anyone that can tell me about it.   Name: Foote E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 January 2018 Glad everyone in louisville got to mark off weather after 2nd shift, CMC was telling everyone on 1st and 2nd, were told they had to have an email sent by a trainmaster in order to mark off weather, just a heads up they r trying to stop you from useing that to. No kiding this happened to serval pepole from what the general committee told me.   Name: Ingle J Money E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 January 2018 Looks like you need about 6 years to be the lowest man in Louisville now   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 January 2018 Yat Yeah it ain't safe drop the W. Take care of yo buisness. Check out the babes on cable news.   Name: YAT YAS E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 January 2018 They droppin like flies marking off weather in Louisville tonight, good on them! They want you outside the cab? Okay then let's just stay home and watch movies in the nicely heated living room. Company can't touch you for marking off weather, if it ain't safe to drive to work then it ain't worth trying. Besides who wants to be out in this crap working like a dog and not being afforded the opportunity to take a little break to warm up? Put these managers and yardmasters outside for an hour and they wouldn't make it, chumps!   Name: Retired Now E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 12 January 2018 APE: Remember when signals had to be normally, usually, located to the engineer's right side? The feds helped change that. Steam locomotives and some older diesels had the long nose as the front, facing forward. [Every FNG I ever helped didn't know what the letter "F" displayed on locomotives was for.] Staying completely alert on a heavy train that is a drag isn't easy, especially considering the hours, etc. The road lifestyle takes a toll on a person's health, well-being. Is doing that worth the pay/benefits/hassles? YES sometimes, but more times NO. RRing isn't for everyone. The truth be known: many can't handle it; including EACH\EVERY position, from the biggest head cheese on down. To all: Take care of yourselves & your family. That's #1. Don't act inconsiderate and/or selfish though - to anybody. Good luck to everyone who sticks with it, and don't forget - Safety First.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 12 January 2018 CSX Auditing YES I know you watch this site and who is posting. You said Auditing would call today but didn't. The last time we met was with Auditing VP Bill Maeser and General council Randy Moon. I then met with Fl. DOT Investigators and they ask what CSX next move would be? I told them to expect CSX to pay them A visit stating I was nuts, he tried to extort money from CSX and can't be listened to. HA! I had an insider with Fl. DOT who kept me informed in exchange for my help. The Fl. DOT Racketeering Investigator had to be physically held down when he came across the table on Moon and Maeser. Didn't know I knew that one did you? I would have loved to been there when CSX tried to illegally silence me for trying to save crew members and public lives. Guess at this point I Lock N Load HUH?   Name: Mr.Ed E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year Posted: 12 January 2018 MayI We're on to you. We will hunt you down. When we do I'm going to donkey kick you in the head.   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 January 2018 Day11.5 going sledding with a blonde outside of Nastville,TN   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 January 2018 Yes for each visit to the ER you get points. Once you get enough points your entered for a prize.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 January 2018 Got my new insurance cards in the mail today. It says the emergency room co-pay is$0. Do we get points for er visits? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 12 January 2018 In the eighties I blocked the deadman we both fell a sleep went threw a red board. We both where fired. Took a long time to get job back. Happened all the time back then. I can remember when crew fell asleep went threw red board. Had head on with via passenger train it was a bad one. It woke the conductor up in the caboose. He should of known they went threw board and pulled the cord. He was fast asleep he denies it till this day. Good thing they did away with deadman pedal a lot safer now. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 12 January 2018 Most on my sub dozes off. Especially when to and ptc are active. Good thing trainman don't run those guys are always knocked out. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 12 January 2018 So if your out of service for sleeping behind the controls. How many whoops are you going to jump threw to get to,running train again. You now would be viewed as a safety hazard to fellow employees and the public and yourself. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 January 2018 Don't nod off while you are at the controls, I've been off two months today for sleep apnea. I hope to mark up by next week. The camera seen that I nodded off twice and missed blowing the horn once. I was immediately put on medical leave. At least the company offers light duty for 30 days. Stay awake out there, help each other out. 

 Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 12 January 2018 RRJ Is an OG hollor out my brother 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 12 January 2018 Turd Ferguson Are the unions clairvoyant? You say they should already know about problems. Not unless they're seriously addressed at the union meetings. It's your union and everyone else's. Nothing happens with crew room/shanty banter or posting on here. It's getting people together voicing their concerns at the union meeting. Getting it into the union meeting minutes and doing follow ups is what counts. Plus if only one person complains it might not get taken serious but if a group complains then that says something is a problem. Just paying union dues isn't a gold pass. It takes getting involved. Till people understand that fact nothing changes. I expect some to say "bullschidt". That's why it doesn't change. 

 Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 12 January 2018 Day11(am) still no word from tha man. Gonna make some bacon pancakes. Put some bacon n the pancakes. Maakin PaaaaanCakes. And then 8to9 watch news channel 9 then 9to 930ish take care my business.then Netflix, call of duty,some fbook, call up my boys n talk bout how much better I use to have it NOT! Will update u dawgs this afternoon. 

 Name: Turd Ferguson E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 January 2018 I pay union dues for the union to do a job, it IS their job to know what issues we have! The messed up part is that they do know the problems we have and still not much happens. 

 Name: Turd Ferguson E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 January 2018 When people complain about how useless our union is, the go to rebuttle by the super pro union members is always the same "Stop complaining, voice yourself at the union meetings, if you don't go to the meeting then you have no right to complain". Bullshit, the complaints we have are heard through many outlets, this site, the locker room, social media, etc. Our local chairman all the way to the top know the problems. I don't need to show up and say anything because any complaint I or anyone else has is already known. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 January 2018 H Maybe one day when you really need fmla they will force you to the extra board. 

 Name: MayIhaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 11 January 2018 Day10 gave fox a break hearing all kinds of rumors, still no word from the man, this stuff getting crazier than a tree full of squirrels. What the h I'm gonna rub 1 off call it night 

 Name: H E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 January 2018 Regardless of whether or not the company brought it on themselves, Fmla abuse still screws over all your co workers. Anyone that has Fmla should be forced to the xtra boards period. Bet there wouldn't be so many with Fmla if that were the case. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 January 2018 FMLA Get over it. This company brought it on themselves. I don't blame anyone for having fmla; no matter what the reason is. 

 Name: Waiting.. E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 January 2018 Hey csx! Where's my back pay???? Gotta make sure you hold onto that til the last minute to make that interest! Don't worry about us and our families. My lawyer and I are ready just in case it's not on next week's earnings statement. January 31st is the deadline in case it slipped any one of your old, dimentia riddled minds! Can't wait to hear from ya! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 January 2018 Shercom man dies on the job. Company shamed not forced to put in safety switch on piece of equipment that could of saved a life. Then government imposes small fine. Back to business as usual. Switch cost $2000.00. Should of been in place before man died. Several hazard reports put in before accident which where ignored.   Name: FMLA E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 January 2018 Sorry to say that there is FMLA abuse. Everyone knows it. The ones that take it for migraines, sneezes, diarrhea and upset stomachs do not belong on the RR. It is selfish, unprofessional and a burden on your coworkers. Unfortunately, some innocent people will go down because of the abusers. Take disability and find another job. Everyone around you knows what you are doing and really does not like you anyway.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 January 2018 Get real ,,,,, I am real , I’m at home on fmla it’s raining . Get real people only care about themselves not there brothers   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 January 2018 I’m retired last year. I asked the same thing at cp. told that if management does not want to wear Ppe so be it. If they want to work unsafe and get hurt they have to answer to there bosses. But if management does things that affect the safety of the union members then it gets full attention. The government watch dogs have a title great pay and benefits. They go threw the motions to protect there phoney balloney jobs. The government is not going to interfere in railway business. Until members of the public are affected and there is a public out cry. Big business does what they want and if damage to property or life is done. They compinsation with money,no one goes to jail. That’s my two cents worth!   Name: Intimidated E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 January 2018 UNIONS!!!! You LC's are apparently on here all the time along with the FRA and other federal agencies. Got a question for you. How many more years are you guys going to sit back and allow csx management to break their own rules all the time just to get things done quicker or to keep their asses out of hot water for late trains and dwell time. How about you pushing a change in the good faith challenge rules and start making them cover more incidents. Like breaking the class 1 brake test laws. How about them walking around without flash lights and proper PPE in the fields. How about them using the phones all the time and calling the crews all day long leaving messages and then busting our asses because we didn't call them throughout the day and tell them every time you took a piss! How come the managers get to break the rules that guys I have worked beside have been written up for. This horse shit of coming up with rumor mill rules and nothing in writing has gotten out of hand for way too long. Why don't you do something about this. I have reported this crap. I have called the ethics committee. I have stepped up. Now how about you doing your part in this. Why doesn't the union circulate a system wide form to all union members that you fill out with all we have seen and encountered. Make it confidential. No names required. Just dates and who was doing it. Start collecting information. That would be a start. Let management know they got to play by the rules too. DO something!   Name: LTWB E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 January 2018 Why Staley? Why are you on LJ551 when you are assigned to a yard extra board?   Name: get real E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 January 2018 Cond.1-10 Big mouth pie hole mole. If you aren't a company mole then you need to get your shit together. You think its funny. People are sitting at home without a damn job because of this crap. You think this is a joke. No one knows how long they will be out. No one knows what this rat hole company has up their sleeve. Rumors are they are saying that they had to whistleblow/report because if they have suspicions that someone is breaking federal law they will be just as liable for not reporting as the person breaking the law. If they think your breaking FMLA law they have to stop your activities until it is further investigated. That means pull you out of service. You might get back to work and get back pay but you can bet your ass the company wont get in any hot water for this. Don't blame the unions either. They aren't a federal agency . If the feds say what they did is within their rights then the unions cant do a thing about it. All they can do is protest and raise hell. You people have got to learn what power the unions have and don't have. Quit being a smart ass and making jokes about this. Peoples lives are screwed up right now and they aren't laughing at home.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 January 2018 It’s raining = fmla on this local job xtra board man can have it   Name: Liquor Split E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 January 2018 Didn't Creel take over and immediately apologize for the environment harrison created? Then undo a lot of Harrison's work. I'm not sure, but seems like I heard or read that somewhere. P.S. I intentionally do not capitalize the h in harrison, this is not a typo it is on purpose. P.S.S. Check out the name I used, isn't it clever and fun?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 January 2018 Surely their not that stupid.   Name: “Bad Deal” Creel E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years Posted: 11 January 2018 Foote is not a play maker. “Bad Deal” Creel is headed our way by summer. From rumors I hear he is a younger version of the old man only worse. His current employer paid 25 million to settle his theft or espionage from his previous employer. In what world does your employer pay 25 million for the things you took without permission and then get a promotion to CEO. Bad deal... all around. Well unfortunately I believe this is the calm before the Creel storm. I guess it can get worse.   Name: OOS TOO E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 January 2018 Hogger Thanks man. At least he listened to you. Try to help someone out and those damn company moles just ruin everything. Someone needs to choke em out.   Name: MayIhaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 January 2018 Just keeping it real. Thank for advice hogger. I'm out for the night made some soup. I stuck m foot in it. Man it's good. I'm going eat up and call it an early night. Will see my fox girls bright and early.   Name: hogger E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 January 2018 ALL IDIOT POSTERS What the hell is wrong with you. LC and OOS is trying to help that stupid kid. He has already given up too much info. If you are really a railroad employee then you have to know how the company goes after anyone who has anything bad to say about them. Quit encouraging this guy. I think your the company mole. Your just trying to get him to reveal more than he has. I noticed he said he was going back to his crib. Im guessing he aint no country guy and a good chance he's black. Just guessing. He also said he sits in the hotel and takes care of his business so we know he's most likely on a pool. You all know how it works out here. They are already probably trying to piece it together. What happens is they decide they know who it is and wait till he gets back and then stalks him. what happens if they got the wrong guy and they start stalking the poor guy and he get pulled out of service for a bunch of trumped up bullshit failures he didn't deserve. MayIhave another.......SHUT THE HELL UP! They are trying to draw you out.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year Posted: 10 January 2018 LC You must be a real dumbass. Sucking down the company kool aid.If you believe this will make it to real court of law. Even if it did seriously doubt a juror red that post. If the company knew who may I is it wouldn't Change his outcome regardless. More likely than not it all not true. It someone making fun of how stupid this place is. Dumbasses like you is why the company thinks we're a joke.   Name: dumnuts E-mail: www.dumbnuts Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 January 2018 Pinenuts is the turd. Turn it over. If it smells, it is Pineturd.   Name: Show Trial E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 10 January 2018 Oops too, LC Company moles or company suck asses. May I. Keep us updated   Name: OOS TOO E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 January 2018 Mayihaveanother The LC is right!! Quit being an idiot. If your telling the truth it won't be hard to figure out who you are. 9.5 days off,hearing at 1330 and then postponed. Pretty easy to narrow it down. If you have been hired more than 6 months then you should know how they retaliate. Your out in the open now. Only thing I can say is I hope you got more seniority than me and your working on my terminal. Keep running that mouth!   Name: Lc E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 January 2018 Conductor I have news for you. Not only am I not marked off union business, I don't abuse it either as many do. It's a shame that your too ignorant to understand the point of my post. No one needs to hear or read about some morons activities of beating his meat and knocking one off. Are you to stupid to understand that it's the public that reads this site and could possibly be someone who just might be sitting in the court room with you. Don't turn this idiots post around on the union. I just hope it's not my local that will be standing next to him. No telling what will come out of his mouth. Get a clue. it looks bad on all of us when someone post that kind of trash.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year Posted: 10 January 2018 What he said. CSX does suck and the unions are in bed with them. This here proves it.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 January 2018 I agree May I. The unions should be outraged that our rights are being violated, not telling us to be quiet. This is some screwed up stuff here, and twice as screwed up that the unions aren't standing up and letting them have it. I vote we reduce our Union dues to the same level as what they put out.   Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 January 2018 LC It's called CSX sucks. Here's a crazy idea. Instead of being laid off Union buisness reading post on these sorts of forums. How about you and that crippled ass Union doing your job I pay over$100 a month to. I haven't red anywhere or heard of anything you girls are doing. There is more organization by RRers on this site than any other. Day 9and3/4 reading a has been's post and silly enough to respond. Back to my Netflix binge. 

 Name: LC E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 January 2018 MayIhaveanother As much as you think you are right and plan on getting your job back, your post is immature, lacks any sense of class and pretty much makes anyone in the public who reads this site get the impression that railroaders are low class and no better than dog doo. You need to grow up. You need to take this seriously. CSX didn't do this without tons or research through their legal teams and coaching from the federal agencies. If this is the attitude and professionalism you bring to work maybe you should just consider taking medical leave or apply for disability if you really are in need of FMLA and have a serious condition. Have some pride. That post is more information than anyone of us on the railroad needs to read! Your not funny. 

 Name: Mayihaveanother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 January 2018 Day 9.5 out of kangaroo court. Investigation was postponed. Lol headed to the crib to watch Fox News hot babes and rub one off. #lifeisgood #imsueing #imstilloff #lovenit Allleged Fmla misuse 

 Name: MayIhaveAnother E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 January 2018 Im attending a dog and pony show at 1330. Part of me wants to be put back in. The more I sit around beating my meat. The more I realize I don't give a rip. I've been out since the 2nd. CSX owes me roughly about 2700. So do I really want to be working when I can sit here watching Oprah scratching my ass. Day 1 called LC Day 2 scared Day 3 nervous Day 4 jacked off a couple times Day 5 binged on Netflix Day 6 ordered pizza continued my Netflix binge Day 7 woke up rubbed one off thinkin I can get use to this stayed up late playing video games called an old fling rubbed one off Day 8 woke up rubbed one off laughed at Fox News rubbed one off watching the blonde Day 9 called LC wanting to postpone this hearing no such luck I'm going to take a shower and rubb one off will give updates later. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 January 2018 I hope those affected by being taken out of service have Job Protection Insurance? Collect it and the RRB unemployment. Same goes for being out of service under a medical. Collect the RRB sick benefits & short term disability policy from the union contract. I'd have my doctor take me out of service medically for a while if things were so bad. Kudos to those who learned how to play the system. Just sometimes there are consequences. That's what is happening now. It's a different playing field politically in this country with corporations having the upper hand. POTUS appoints the members that govern these issues FRA, NMB, Secretary of Labor etc... and they're corporation friendly. 

 Name: HA! E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 January 2018 APE You got that right! The company mole must have been told to do something about the legal advice being given on here. Surprised a lawyer hasn't chimed in. Or maybe they don't like where the other topics are going like the piece of crap TM who ordered crews to blow the horn for the nut job HH. Wonder just how that investigation is going to go for the company knowing the man had one leg in the grave and his ill health was obvious to everyone. Still haven't heard what exactly has happened to the agreement was made and the money that changed hands. A lot of things are being said about the safety in the yards and violations of federal laws. My favorite is the rumor mill of rules the supervisors always toss out there. They been doing this shit since the day I was hired. Always coming up with some new rule they got an email or memo about but never produce the info. Never have it out in a bulletin or system notice letting everyone see it. How does a supervisor tell everyone that they know of a rule change and get away with not being able to produce it or produce a bulletin. For now on Im calling the operating rules department and ask them about it point blank. Get the info right from the horses mouth. Keep it up little mole. You cant stop the truth! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 10 January 2018 Real men don’t kiss and tell.Just guys with a micro dick,and big ego. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 January 2018 No employee Yo old lady probably bent over right now by a RRer. True story 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 January 2018 Yes you people have a lot better system in the USA. In Canada if you get hurt on the job you go on compinsation. You have to do there treatment and when they feel you are ok to work even if your not .Your forced back to work and cut off benefits and if you can’t do your job to employers standards they can let you go. You can’t sue employer here for being injured on the job. Your at compinsation boards mercy. And most of the time they support the employer.your FMLA sounds like a good program for workers. We would only dream of having your system here in Canada. Your lucky in USA.envy from Canada! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 09 January 2018 FMLA: Length of time? Twelve (12) weeks? Intermittent use would be how many days per month? Seven (7)? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 January 2018 We don't have workers comp on the railroad. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 January 2018 The only investigation that can be done concerning FMLA would be done between the doctor that authorized it, and the csx chief medical officer. Even then, there are federal guidelines that have to be followed. It is clearly written what is allowed and what isn't. Now if you have FMLA for appointments on specific dates, and you used it besides those dates, they can request an investigation which would allow you to go to your doctor to get proof that you needed it during that time, and they have to accept it if filled out correctly. These are the ducks that everyone is talking about that you should be lining up. However most FMLA is for multiple appointments, home care, treatments, things of that nature, and they can't even ask you about that. They can not! Doesn't matter when you used it as long as you didn't use it for 6 months straight. It is implied that FMLA users may use it more often, or for more days than what you were approved for, and in that case, they do have a right to request an amended form from your doctor. Most of the time, they won't mess with you anyways as long as it's not excessive. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 January 2018 Your boss must of been a beta, pussy whipped punk. You and her would of got a good spanking if it was me. Alfa male. True story! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 January 2018 My boss caught me at his house with his wife bent over. I was laid off due to stress. It was very therapeutic Untill he walked in. I'm not sure if I'll get my job back. True story 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 January 2018 If your off on workers comp.Or your FMLA leave I would not put it past CSX to hire investigators. If your off for any reason and they video taping you golfing or dancing up a storm in a bar. It could contradict why you said you where off. When they need you to work some are out having a good time. I tell everyone once you leave the privacy of your home. To smile for the camera, you are for the taking! 

 Name: Agree E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 09 January 2018 Why is there over 100 men out of service other than someone wants to swing their dick 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 January 2018 Misuse of leave how? What was their proof? They can't just decide you misused it. They can't even ask you why you were off. That's between you and your doctor. It's not their business, that's why you are federally protected under FMLA. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 January 2018 Charged with alleged misuse of leave. 

 Name: Tee E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 January 2018 Brakeman 1-10 Why are you terminated? What charges? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 January 2018 If crews are doing number one brake test are you changing brake shoes that are worn out all so. They have to be changed if they are worn under 3/8” including the backing plate. Are you going into the computer to see if it has had a complete diagnostic break test within five years. Just because they set up and release. Is the piston travel within the limits. If the slack adjuster is bad order and you have excessive piston travel you might not have hand brake pressure to hold the car when it is set off. To comply with a number one test there is a lot more to it than what they are asking you to do. Brake rods can’t be worn more than fifty percent etc 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 January 2018 As of today I'm terminated. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 January 2018 We don't need you carpet bagging ass up here. 

 Name: car insp. E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 January 2018 CEEEESEEEE Go screw yourself man. Your stupid crap is not helping anyone. POSER! You conductors and engineers better start covering your asses. We have witnessed some TM ordering crews to violate the hell out of the class 1 brake test rule and when we asked a few if they knew what they were doing was wrong they said the TMs claim they talked to the FRA and they said they can do the test they were doing it. Read your rules book as well as the FRA codes. When your doing an initial test at your terminal you cant do a roll by inspection before you do your brake test. Some guys have been coupling into their cuts and pulling the cars out doing a roll by inspection of the release before doubling back to their next cut. Then the Tm is making them pull out the second cut and hang tele and then walk the set, get on and head out. We read the CSX rules books a hundred times. this is a total bull shit class one test. They say the FRA said it didn't matter whether you see the roll by release first of last. BULLSHIT! You have to do a pre inspection of both sides of the cars from the ground before you can do a roll by release of the brakes. Its black and white in your FRA CFR49 200-299 rules. A roll by release does not constitute as a pre safety inspection of equipment from the ground. Your TM is lying to you and is going to throw you under the bus if the FRA is standing there and catches you. He isn't going to admit he told you the FRA said that because its bull shit. Not only is it an FRA violation its a violation of CSX brake rules. Man, don't go down for these ass holes because they want to rush you out in cold weather. We don't want to report it but if we keep seeing it we will have to. If you don't have the balls to call them on it or call the FRA we got to! 

 Name: no more E-mail: todd novack Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 January 2018 How far are they cut back in buffalo . what year any long pools to williard left . how many yard jobs . or all cn jobs 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 January 2018 be confidential? I don’t want to lose my job. A: All discussions with WHD are confidential. All complaints are confidential; the name of the complainant and the nature of the complaint are not disclosed. The only exceptions are: when it is necessary to reveal a complainant's identity, with his or her permission, to pursue an allegation; and when the WHD is ordered to reveal information by a court. 1-866-487-9243 dept of labor 3rd party can even file a complaint 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 January 2018 Just woke up , who won the game ? guess I’ll stay on fmla , don’t want to go to work at 10 pm 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 January 2018 Not Sucking Up My response to "New Guy" addressed the unions. That y'all have to seriously get involved. Go to the meetings. Get angry. You get 30-40 angry people at a meeting that LC had better be calling the GC right afterwards to get their arse down to the next meeting to address the concerns. If you don't like what you hear from the GC get angry again. It's your union. It's not just paying union dues. If enough SMART/UTU locals & BLE-T divisions start hollering then the GC's & the national will take notice. Way I see it there's no involvement these days. I might be retired but I show up to 1-2 BLE-T division meetings a year to see what's going on to stay informed. It's pathetic only 6-8 people show up out of around 100 members. It's almost dead silence just going through the motions. 

 Name: SeeeeDeeeeeee E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 09 January 2018 All you girls cut back on the seeeeeeDeeeeeeee are shit conductors. Fat brown thinks he knows everythang. Don't be trusting dyke halls and Charlie palmdick. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 January 2018 What's the deal in Willard and new castle? Anyone seen or heard anything lately? What has been going on, anything new? 

 Name: Beek a Poo E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 January 2018 What's up Louisville? These cutback engineers done forgot how the ground game works? Really, that fast? Or you never was a good conductor to begin with, which is it? Yall need to be retrained as conductors or something if yall gonna be cut back a while cuz yall be suckin right now. I've seen yellow hats running around here better than yall! Oh I get it, you mad cuz you cut back so you just actin dumb right? If that's it then watch out... TM Rain gonna getcha lol. Peek a boo from the bushes sukka! 

 Name: Hugh Jorgan E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 January 2018 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 January 2018 Roll Tide , I’m on Fmla ____________________________________________________- Lol!! That's some good shit!! Go Dawgs!! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 January 2018 Roll Tide , I’m on Fmla 

 Name: Qwerty E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 January 2018 What about j rains 

 Name: Ozzy E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 January 2018 Name-J.Rains Title-trainmaster louisville osborn hump yard 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 08 January 2018 Re: Not Sucking Up Amen, Amen and Amen!!! There are other sites to post on besides disrupting this one. Use them!!!! I have a lot of stuff to post regarding safety and corporate action. It is rare that I get a response other than trashing me. I have to consider these posts as a mole trying to discredit the information. I enjoy old stories and what's going on as much as any other but there's a place for it. How can readers be slowly taken to where railroads are headed when you cant follow the posts due to garbage. Be respectful when posting, it just mignt save your job and certainly effect your working conditions. 

 Name: Not sucking up E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 January 2018 RRJIM AND THE REST So now we have gotten off on a tangent about who worked harder and who was better and blah blah blah blah. Tired of reading about FMLA abuse?? Who gives a rats ass how things were or how tough the old heads had it. What we need to do is focus on the here and now. Your days are gone. So tired of hearing the same old stories...I remember when. Don't lose focus guys. Focus on what's happening now. That's what's important. We got the old crow dead and buried now and a new CEO who hasn't made his way in yet to introduce the new sherrif in town. Mark my word he's going to. It's 2018 and a new year. Time to take our union's by the horn. Take back OUR RIGHTS AS UNION MEMBERS. Our right to have a say in the back room decisions. Time to blow in every supervisor who tells you to go do what your told you piece of crap and put your claim in for the violation later. That's deliberate union busting and blatant disregard for agreements between the union and carrier. Start naming names. Everyone in the system needs to know the names of hostile union hating supervisors. This site is your voice to the public. USE IT! Ignore the posers on here. Learn to pick out the company moles and distractors. Notice how our most famous poster has been missing? Probably using a new MO. noticed how he disappeared with the FMLA frenzy. Probably the one who started the mud slinging with the old heads. Ignore them. Concentrate on the here and now! We got rusted out freezing motors with bad seals on the Windows and doors. We got junk motors that can't hold the air or keep the main reservoirs pumped up. We still got Tele's droping out on too long of trains. Just had another 198 car train. Rumors are orders are being put out to bottle air on cuts of cars when switching and engineers to put AC motors in 4 knotch to get the air up. Idiots! Can it get any more stupid! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 January 2018 Filing a complaint with the dept of labor is what you do before you're terminated. They get involved and push the company to resolve the matter. It lets the company know that you will not sit Quietly. After termination the company is less likely to freely listen and must be served a demand letter from an attorney. DONT WASTE ANY MORE TIME FILE A COMPLAINT https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 January 2018 Yes in my thirty five years with the rr I was layed off nine times.the longest twenty months I worked at slaughter house then got called back. I started in1981 and I witnessed all the technology changes over the years. At the end of my career there where twelve inspector per shift now two. Soon you will see one person per train ,and more technology in all departments that will cost more jobs. All as I can say the way it is now I could not do it over again. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 January 2018 Pulled out of service1-2 investigation for 1-8 showed proof of my layoff. Investigation postponed. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 January 2018 I understand that explanation. The other one you blasted train crews. Technology wiped a lot of people out of a job. Rail yards at one time were almost like a small town 24/7 with people everywhere, today there ghost towns. When change came a lot of people fought it and the railroads just cut more jobs. That was the point I was making. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 January 2018 My point being before the computer all departments got away with a lot of shit..Safety is important but at some points we safetied our selfs out of work. The new people today can’t get away with nothing like we did! 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 January 2018 I don't know where you worked out of but it sounds more of a figment of your imagination. There were some lazy Carmen that's why a lot of them are gone. Terminal I worked out of they didn't even bother calling the car department at another yard to drive down to do brake test they had the yard crews do it. When they moved them to the other yard it was a 10 minute ride to get to the other one and they would take 2 hours to get there. So, they cut the jobs in half. A typical case of sometimes people are there own worse enemy. Technology took the caboose away with Head End Train Devices & End of Train Devices. You car inspectors when it began were only putting on FRA lights so we didn't have communication with the rear of the train. Why didn't you protest? We did. You chose to be a Carmen so quit being so envious of people in transportation. Our lives weren't that glorious like some think. You went home everyday after your shift. We didn't know when we would get back. That was the life we chose. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 January 2018 Ya I remember the good old days, when a conductor would delay the train because the caboose never had a butcher knife or kettle in the caboose. Or windows not clean enough,or they had to switch the caboose out because it had solid draw bar not a sliding sill. That is one of the reasons they got rid of the caboose. And when carman would do number one test the conductor would pull the emergency cord. So carman walked the train and crew would get cancelled. I knew all the tricks they played to delay or cancel the train. Can’t do it now with the computer!! 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 January 2018 New Guy When we said it was getting worse we meant management. The job hasn't changed just the people in charge. Railroads ran more efficient before computers. Clerks took numbers they knew where every car was located. Crew callers & train dispatchers were located at every big terminal so train calling times were nearly spot on. Locomotives were serviced after every run. Brake test on all trains before departing no run thru's. The list goes on. With technology it screwed up the railroads it didn't make it better. We were the ones back in the 80's & 90's who had to adapt before some you were even born. As for the unions that's up to y'all to make better by getting involved. I made it to 4-6 meetings a year if I was in town I went. Union meetings were packed because we cared. We were angry a lot of times over the changes. It's pathetic to go to a meeting today seeing only 6-8 people bother to show up out of over 100. Crew room BS doesn't get it. You get 30-40 angry railroaders at a meeting then the GC's have to take notice. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 January 2018 Hugh Jorgan Wrong! I started on the C&O in the '70s retired from CSX in 2010 after 36 years starting out as a brakeman then 32 years as a road Locomotive Engineer. We had 4 on a train it was 2 on the locomotive and 2 on the caboose. During runs one out of four trains had to be stopped and walked for stuck brakes, hot journal boxes etc... we didn't have many detectors like today to find problems it was done by visually monitoring the train from the head end & caboose. Back then we were running 190-200 cars so one walked back from the head end the other walked up from the rear met in the middle then walked backed checking the other side. Most times we didn't have radios, everything was done by hand signals using fusees, yellow for giving signals red always meant stop. The list goes on of railroading that's gone that was an art form to accomplish. The only hand signal I saw when I left was the "thumb" which was the conductor that I was looking at pressing the radio mic key with his thumb. It's like an old country song "We've forgotten more about railroading then you'll ever know". Good for y'all that it's changed. It was tough back then. Glad locomotives have heat & AC, seeing most times we fried during the summer heat then we froze onboard during winter only having a sidewall heater working. That the brakes on cars are 250% better than the old AB & ABD brakes we worked with. That defect detectors let the conductor know which axle so they don't have to walk the entire train etc... 

 Name: LC E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 January 2018 Ozzy If a TM acctually did order everyone to blow their horn as you stated then you as well as all other engineers should report him to the ethics committee. Unnecessary use of the horn is an operating rules violation as well as unethical. Forcing someone to use company equipment in violation of the rules for a personal agenda as well as personal views should be reported immediately. Does this TM have a name? Why wouldn't you post it. He should not be in management. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 07 January 2018 I will have everyone conducting the hearing and the hr lady on the phone listed as defendants. I've already spoke with an attorney. He works on a contingency he took my case. I asked him if I had a good chance of winning. He said he wouldn't represent me if he didn't think I already have since he only gets paid if I settle. I haven't been to my hearing yet but it's too late. CSX will be receiving my complaint. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 January 2018 http://www.hrmorning.com/hr-managers-personally-liable-fmla-violation/ Yea they can 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 January 2018 https://www.americanbar.org/groups/lawyer_referral/resources/attorney_referral_system.html Dol approved Fmla lawyers 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 07 January 2018 https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx 

 Name: kpasa E-mail: 1-*($# Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 07 January 2018 how far are they cut back in buffalo what is the lowest senoirty date for engineers and brakemen ,are threre any long pools to wilard and collinwood any ward jobs left ??   Name: Mcfluffle Berry Jenkins E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 07 January 2018 Blowing your horn at 1600 for some dipshit? Sounds like a 4 foot 3 inch chump named Steve came up with that bull. If I'm wrong let me know.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 07 January 2018 https://finance.yahoo.com/news/csx-investigation-initiated-former-louisiana-035000611.html   Name: Ozzy E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 07 January 2018 We were told today at 1530 by a trainmaster that today at 1600 we were to sound our horn at 1600 in remembrance of ole HH, well we didnt make it out to our power till 1630, i geuss the charge letter will be in the mail, did anyone else get told this? This is 100% a true story   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 07 January 2018 I did thirty five years as carman for cp it was great I loved my job. Then came hunter did four years working for him. We all hated it the man power was thinned out stress was high,people where always worried about getting fired and took attention from thinking about safety. As a matter of fact there where more fatalities and injuries under Hh watch than before he came. I retired and don’t blame people for quitting the railroad..Stress kills more than one way.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 07 January 2018 Hey New guy; part of my previous post as written: ... "could ever possibly be".... Safety First. Take care.   Name: Lol E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 January 2018 Their legal team is going to be spread thin.lol Customers Fmla Stb Insider info   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 January 2018 https://www.thestreet.com/quote/CSX.html CSX under investigation. I hope someone goes to prison   Name: New guy E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 January 2018 Re read your post idiot. I think what you meant to say is, the only THING they are better at. Moron!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 07 January 2018 The only way today's Conductors could ever possibly be better than the Conductors of yesteryear would be: handling modern electronic devices. That's it. Safety First.   Name: Continued E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 January 2018 Has it better. I've seen more people quit the railroad now than ever before. Quitting the railroad use to be unheard of. What does that tell you?   Name: New guy E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 January 2018 Im new to the railroad, been here about 6 years. When I started in 2012 we had a lot of 6 hour days, extra tickets, thanks awards, boots paid for, many deadheads and turns, deadheads for rest, much longer lunch breaks, starts an hour after the on duty time, they bought lunch frequently, the list goes on. During this time a lot of "old heads" then complained about how bad it had gotten. Now 6 years later it is worse. So if you were complaining 6 years ago about how bad it had gotten then, well it is obvious that you had it made compared to today's railroaded. It has gotten worse there is no doubt about it, so quit acting like anyone with less than 10   Name: Billylove E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 07 January 2018 https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx File a complaint all out of service employees   Name: Hugh Jorgan E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 07 January 2018 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 07 January 2018 It's funny hearing these old heads preach. They had four men on their crew. They would never make it today. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Well said...who is this ahole rr(rump ranger) jim? It is a totally different railroad than even a year ago, and damn sure different than when there were 4 or 5 people on one job. The company used to answer to labor, but nowadays they answer to the shareholders (to hell with labor). He's obviously another one of them keyboard jockeys that would not make it in today's railroad atmosphere. Nowadays, one man is doing it all. The assholes (old-heads of yesteryear) talk all that crap, but u can bet they couldn't hold a candle to today's conductors.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 07 January 2018 What's funny is seeing & reading the previous post. Is doubtful at best if the person that posted that has the 1st clue about what it was like in earlier times. Probably just another person that a decent profit would be made if you could buy 'em for what they're worth and then sell 'em for what they think they're worth. Safety First.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 07 January 2018 It's funny hearing these old heads preach. They had four men on their crew. They would never make it today.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 January 2018 Civilian Looks like I hit a nerve. lol. Calm down little buddy. I didn't say all out there I said some working out there today. We had more than one new hire get in their vehicle and quit on the job when we had to go work in the rain, snow, sleet etc... Recently I've read more than one person on here complaining how mean CSX is for making them work because it's cold outside. lol. All the railroads are structured like the military. Sounds like you're a yard guy. I worked the road 34 years out of 36. So, in that regards "what the hell is taking lunch?". lol. Seeing I upset you maybe you can call your Mommy to make you feel special cause you definitely act like a little kid.   Name: Fred E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 January 2018 I'm looking at the layoff board. Doesn't appear to have slowed down fm Mark offs. After this is over still will be men laying off fm. Outcome waste of fucking time.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 07 January 2018 I retired last year,and the thirty five years on the RR went by in a blink of an eye.Worked all shifts in all kinds of weather put up with all the crap. Divorces etc now get checks in the mail. At the end of the day the pay was always in the bank,and made a good wage,where a person could hold there head up and have a decent life style. And at the end of the day we are not over worked compared to the private sector and half the pay. Sometimes you have to take time and look at the positive side of being a railroader.   Name: Civilian E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 07 January 2018 RRJIM You know what u can do with that post. I wasnt a damn jar head or grunt or what ever you were but I know my union rights. I know what I'm entitled to in pay and work conditions. Screw your military mentality. That's just what this fake military mentality management wants. Screw telling we no lunch break got no time for your rights. Screw you conductor and your sgreement. Go suck our ass and put in your claim. We fought hard for better treatment and all we got so far is a pansy ass union and union hating msnagement. This ain't the military. If it was be would be carrying rifles and getting out pay checks like we should. Man I don't even want to finish with you ass.You ain't worth it.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 January 2018 Fiddler Good post. Railroad runs like the military even though it's a private corporation. They use military time, they tell you when to report to duty, it's heavy on rules & regulations, you are required to work in any situation etc... That's why it worked for me after getting out of the military having gone to Vietnam. It's strict structure was a good fit. Big difference is railroaders make darn good money. The Veterans who were hiring out the years before I retired made damn good railroaders. I never heard one of them say when it was time to get the job done "it's cold outside" "you can't be serious it's raining" etc.... they didn't complain if they were called out to work a holiday. They know it's part of the job. You can tell with some on here who has never served their country. CSX spoiled some because for a short span they did shut down on July 4th, Christmas, Thanksgiving and a few more. It wasn't always like that a lot of us worked all those holidays for decades. All one could hope for was the freight pool was near the bottom. This FMLA stuff didn't happen when I was out there only a small handful of people had it. Not bringing up politics but that had to happen under Obama because under other presidents things weren't so liberal. Most likely under this president it'll change back.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 06 January 2018 "many trainmaster(s), 850 employees, 130........" Where does this stuff come from? Would be sweet if real true facts and figures were posted. "I heard" and "I thought" doesn't cut it.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 06 January 2018 Heard there would be many trainmaster leaving after bonus is paid out.   Name: Change jobs E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 06 January 2018 Csx.com log in and search jobs, they are hiring a lot of people now in a lot of places. The is a need for 58 new trainmasters on there, mow, signals, etc.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 06 January 2018 You have to take into consideration that the company is going to make it as difficult for most to get there fmla.Because if they made it easy and approved this in a timely manner don’t you think that it would be abused. The way they do it now is make it almost a deterant to apply for it.   Name: Willie B E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 06 January 2018 If 850 employees used Fmla over the holidays and only 130 got pulled out of service that ain't good for the 130 employees. What this means is csx will say they only pulled 1 out of 7 Fmla users out over this so it wasn't a target on anyone using Fmla at this time. They chose 130 out of 850 based on something more. If csx pulled all users out then there might be a case but I'd bet most of the 130 are screwed.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 06 January 2018 C'mon, can't expect any high(er) level company officials or full-time union officers (& their staffs) to be on duty weekends or holidays. Why, that would be beneath them.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 06 January 2018 I, for one, have never received a single letter concerning my FMLA usage, but was removed from service 1/3/18, with an investigation date of 1/10/18 for "misuse of FMLA between 12/22 to 12/26." Interesting note: the two days I marked off FMLA, 1400hrs 12/24 to 1800hrs 12/25, had been showing as "pending approval" on the MyLeave FMLA website for the last several days. I got a note from my doctor stating that any leave I took between 12/22 and 12/26 was for my personal serious illness as per my FMLA intermittent leave, the note was emailed to my local chairman, passed to the general chairman's office, and further passed to labor relations. As of this morning, the dates I took off FMLA leave are now showing as "approved" on the MyLeave website. Of course nothing can be done on the weekends... Not like anyone who can actually make a decision works weekends! Hopefully Monday I'll be marked back up, then comes the fun part of trying to get paid for the time I was out of service.   Name: XGC E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years Posted: 05 January 2018 Out of service Employees LISTEN UP AND LISTEN GOOD. DO NOT GET YOUR OWN LAWYER! Absolutely do not! The best thing you can do now is to start making contact with everyone who was pulled out of service . Start making calls. Start running rosters on every division , subdivision as you can. You need to pool your money and find the best lawyer in the country that handles FMLA and federal laws and take this on as a class action law suit as a group. Rumor is there were 130 employees who were pulled out of service for mark off of FMLA on the Christmas holiday. This is a HUGH AMOUNT TO STAND IN FRONT OF A JUDGE. Now is the time to act as a group. Second here, this is now the opportunity to address the attendance policy and the blatant violation of the union agreement that states the company will keep enough employees hired to make sure the caps can be met and people can take time off. Personal day, vacation days, daily vacation days, personal business, demand days and sick if need be to go to the doctors. The number one biggest violation in this attendance policy is the fact that you can still be given points if you show a valid doctor slip. THERE SHOULD BE NO POINTS ACCESSED TO ANYONE WHO CAN SHOW A VALID DOCTORS SLIP FOR THEIR VISIT. Caps are being reduced because the company furloughed and ran off so many people that they cant keep the boards full enough to let people off as agreed by the union agreements. The unions are going to do nothing for you. They sold all of you out when they refused to fight the availability policy. Call your GC office and ask them if they are still fighting the policy. They will laugh at you or hang up. They will not have the guts to tell you NO! NO! NO!. The company created this entire situation. This has snowballed because the mind set in the business now with all employees is if you cant get days off any more and they keep the caps reduced because they created man power shortages and the unions wont do a damn thing to stop it then GET FMLA! Everyone knows this is true. You know you have heard it a million times from your fellow employees. GET FMLA! If the group of employees stand together as a whole and file a class action law suit they can also voice their opinions as to why so many people are trying to get FMLA! Your unions will not step in until you start an uproar and draw attention to it. They will have no choice if the members start talking loud and hard. You have every right to speak to the press. You have every right to jump on board with your fellow employees who have been pulled out of service. Now is the time to step up and see what you can do to help them and yourselves with this policy!!! The can of worms has been opened. Use it to your advantage. Draw attention to the attendance policy and the abuse of union agreement days off. If you ever needed to stand together on this issue it is now. Do not lose this opportunity. You may never get it again!   Name: Former Foamer E-mail: Employed as: Yard Master, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 January 2018 Osborn Yard needs a new superintendent A.S.A.P. It's bananas out here!   Name: House E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 05 January 2018 Fiddler Ok Jr. Thanks for the post   Name: Fiddler E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 January 2018 If you think it's so rough and unfair then go join the military. You sound like a bunch of cry baby sissies! Go to work, earn your check and go home it ain't that bad. You sound like a bunch of girl scouts at a Justin Beiber concert crying because he didn't sing your favorite song.   Name: Brewer E-mail: Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years Posted: 05 January 2018 https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx   Name: Notonfmla E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 January 2018 The laws of the land protect illegals.criminals,terrorist animals all sorts of religions any thing you can fathom. There are people who will go nuts for those mistreated. There are even laws for working class tax payers that have a medical condition or taking care of a loved one. It's very difficult near impossible for a large corporation to trample over a large group of people just doing the best they can do. The burden is on the corporation to show fault. Laying off on a holiday under your protected leave doesn't warrant termination.   Name: Imsure E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 January 2018 HR We don't doubt that for 1 second. CSX lawyers have warned them what they can and cannot do. CSX doesn't give a damn about the law this is all about arrogance. CSX thinks they are above the law. We know CSX has paid lawyers. That's good because they're going to need them in every state east of the Mississippi. CSX previously screwed 1200 managers. Currently screwing their customers. Now they think they can screw the T&E. You can count on us having "Our ducks in a row" New York will come down on CSX like a hammer. This is blatant retaliation over their new paid time leave. That's how it will be perceived anyway. Last I checked if CSX is silly enough to let any of these countless suits make it to court. A group of our peers decide the outcome not some paid arbitrator. Read up on FMLA the federal law leans strongly for the employee. Ward was wise enough not to cross the line in the sand. The countless lawsuits won't be just against CSX there will be individuals also named as defendants.   Name: Hr E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 January 2018 FMLA ABUSERS If you think for one moment that corporate officials have not already consulted with their legal teams and federal agencies before they made this move then you are either blind or ignorant. They aren't stupid. The company has millions to spend on legal advise and procedure. If you don't have your ducks in a row good luck. There are alot of arm chair lawyers on this site right now. That's going to get someone in serious trouble.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 January 2018 STOP RELYING ON YOUR UNION REPS TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. WE ARE THE UNION, ITS TIME TO LAY DOWN OR STRIKE! TRUST ME WHEN EVERYONE LAYS DOWN, THE COMPANY RUNS TO YOUR TOP UNION OFFICIALS BEGGING FOR HELP. DO IT!   Name: Crackhead Mcgee E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 January 2018 If you can't do why even? I can't think about why it would work if it does. What are the times now? How can you do if it don't work? Why? Can someone explain it to me? We can't choose when. So I don't know what to think. How does it work to be at?   Name: Leave of absence E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 January 2018 Someone had a question about Leave of absence, if your terminal has people in your craft furloughed then you shall be granted a leave of absence. If you need to take time to go to school, try a new job for a while to see if you like it, take care of personal matters, etc. then you put a request in for a leave of absence and you will get it if there are people furloughed at your location. If it is denied then turn it over to your Local Chairman and they will handle it from there.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 January 2018 Pattern markoffs don't mean someone is abusing FMLA. Ever heard of weekly treatments or weekly appointments? Some people get iv infusions, blood transfusions, chemotherapy, and do you know when the best time is to get these things done? The weekend, sometimes holidays. These are the times when those places aren't as busy so the person with whatever medical condition doesn't have to spend an entire day at the hospital. Educate yourself before you try to ruin people's lives to get another notch on your trainmaster boyscout belt.   Name: Red E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 January 2018 Whine That's right it will all be sorted out. The ones who are legit and have been pulled out have more owed to them than a weeks back pay. I'm not saying it's right but the others have a lawsuit also. There will be fines and lawsuits over this. There are lawyers already making contacts ambulance chasers but they will sue CSX. CSX knows if it goes to court they lose. Next week the ones who laid off over New Years will be removed from service.   Name: Lol E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 05 January 2018 Spoken from a true company mole... Low grade supervisor.. Trainmaster Name: Whine E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 January 2018 Whine all you want, if you have Fmla and used it over the holiday and are now being investigated then time will tell. Your history of Fmla use will be looked at and if there is a pattern you will be dealt with if there is no pattern you will be fine. You know if you abuse the program or not so I suggest that if you are one that abuses it start looking for work elsewhere.   Name: Whine E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 January 2018 Whine all you want, if you have Fmla and used it over the holiday and are now being investigated then time will tell. Your history of Fmla use will be looked at and if there is a pattern you will be dealt with if there is no pattern you will be fine. You know if you abuse the program or not so I suggest that if you are one that abuses it start looking for work elsewhere.   Name: SeeeDeeee E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 05 January 2018 Charlie Handprick,Dyke Hawes, Cannot be trusted!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years Posted: 05 January 2018 Awesome I'm sure there are more just like you. I went to my doc on my Thursday off day. I had to mark off over Christmas weekend . Saw my doc the day after Christmas. Now I'm out of service. I had well over 400 qualifying days in 2017. This company does suck.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 January 2018 16yr veteran employee, have had FMLA since 2015, diagnosed arthritis in lower back which causes excruciating pain, plus sciatic nerve pain down my left leg. Triggers are sitting for long periods of time. Stretching exercises learned from physical therapy help a ton, but almost impossible to do correctly while on a train. Plus 800mg Ibuprofen. Removed from service January 2nd for taking two days FMLA leave between 12/22 and 12/26, well within my FMLA paperwork of three days per week. Letter from my doctor explaining any time off between the days on the charge letter were for FMLA purposes due to personal serious illness. Letter sent to General Chairmans office, passed to Labor Relations, yet still having my investigation next Monday. I also have a voice recording from a conversation with the Director of Wage and Labor division, specifying that holiday use of FMLA does not qualify as abuse. This is going to turn out real interesting. Advice from my Local Chairman is I'll be reinstated with back pay, but it might be better financially in the long run to be terminated. Financially, I'm fine, and really wouldn't mind a year or two off.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 05 January 2018 I keep reading how some really need it. Everyone on FMLA REALLY needs it. There is no way a medical professional would risk their licensure over some idiot just wanting a day off. Is there some who use it for other reasons? Possible but most do not and who are you to judge your fellow employee. If you laid off Union business, took displacement. Waited to tie up,bumped a Jr man for his off day, ran slow, etc.etc. SHUT your DICK HOLSTEr   Name: BrOwNHoRnEt E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 05 January 2018 There needs to be an investigation in CSX. Who would pay someone 300 million dollars when everyone knew that person would be taking a medical leave. I didn't think "key employees" were allowed any sort of medical leave. I bet there were no substantial difference of layoffs over the holidays verses any other given day. New York requiring 8 weeks of company paid leave Jan 1st is suspect to why CSX would choose now to to pull this. I love my job and union co- workers but I think this company keeps going down hill. I hope everyone out of service sues CSX the HR directors, managers and who ever else that can be placed on the lawsuit.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 05 January 2018 Lloyd That post was dead on accurate.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 January 2018 Got some company suck asses on here. Every time they come out with a new attendance policy they make shit worse. I blame the company for the problem. Hell before we got the bid system we would have 30 - 50 people displaced at any given time and now we have a few people marked of fmla and we see it still ain't good enough for these fools that you can only reach m-f 8am - 4pm with an hour lunch break. Maybe they should try something new like holiday pay for road guys or time and half for weekends.   Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 January 2018 You idiots just dont get it do you? People have fmla for hundreds of reasons but take a wild guess on why it is abused? Because these railroads abuse the fuck out of their employees thats why. You're the same twats that tell everyone to quit if they dont like it and take calls whenever you can for the company arent you? Probably the same people who work all the time and then bitch because their house payment is so damn high and have to live out here. Just save your shit. The guys who want to chastise all the ones laying off are the problem out here. You all would make great management. People do abuse fmla but get off your high horse. The only reward you get for showing up all the time is more money in your own damn pocket anyway.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 January 2018 Nice post conductor Hawes   Name: MOO$E E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 January 2018 I say recalculate seniority Jan 1st every year. So basically add up each day you have actually worked since you started and that is your seniority order. Check it out, if a dude started a month sooner than you he will always have seniority on you even if after 5 years you actually worked 200 days more than him because he marks off all the time. Do it this way and see how many people mark off all the time, do it this way and see who will sink and who can swim. If you started a year before me but I worked more days in my career than you than I have more experience than you right? 

 Name: Re-railer E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 January 2018 Yo dog, any yall complaining talking bout the company after you and they targeting you, well you have done something to get yourself in a messed up situation. Yall really think for no reason at all the managers just don't like you and would like to see you go? come on for real? You are judged by either the way you look or the way you act, shame on anyone for judging someone on the way they look that ain't right, but the way you act is how most people will judge you and that's how it should be right? if you act like a fool then you should be treated like a fool, so don't act like a fool and then try to say your being targeted by such and such forno reason, if you being trgeted the chances are you did something to deserve it. Yeah there might be a rare case of this managers wife cheated with a dude named greg and he just don't like anyone named greg and yo name greg so he don't like you but that aint what this about greg. 

 Name: Stop Complaining Do Your Job E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 January 2018 2L2Q I am with you 100% lazy asses (FMLA) abusers they play the system pick their days off and the trains they want I hope they fire them all. They think of only them selves and noone else if it is anything like our terminal only do it on the weekends and holidays....I am guessing all the people saying get an attorney are FMLA (Friday tru Monday leave act).. pukes 

 Name: 2LTQ E-mail: Employed as: APE, for N/A Posted: 04 January 2018 http://wnyt.com/news/csx-employees-job-loss-sick-leave-protest/4730395/ If you are being fired for FMLA use over the holiday season HA HA LOL! Unless you have FMLA for a legitimate reason and were using it legitimately, then no HA HA LOL There are too many of you that have FMLA and use it to have time off whenever you want. The rest of us at CSX don't get to just call and mark off any time we want. It sucks, but we have to work when we have to work even if it's Christmas! You are so inconsiderate that you will falsely use FMLA on holidays when it could mean another crew will have to stay 12 hours vs their normal 8 because of you. You shouldn't even be able to hold a regular job if you have FMLA, you should only be allowed on an extra board! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 04 January 2018 So are all the people that got fired for using fmla during the holidays in states where the leave is paid? 

 Name: Dave E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 04 January 2018 L&N So youre retired too? The pole line wire was steel with a copper coating, basically worthless. I use to have to jump thru hoops to get wire to the field and people to put wire back. It wasn't the cost of wire but having inventory costs go up for keeping wire in stock for emergency protection and delays in train movement. This came out of share holders pocket so we eleminated the wire and the code was put on the track, now microwave. To do this Scheerer threw employee safety out the window. Scheerer came from Harmon Ind. and was not a railroader. I worked very hard for this railroad and sure you did too. So do we all let it all go down the tubes? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 January 2018 I sued the railway in Canada as employee,cost me $35000.00 I won my case so cp ended up paying most of my legal bill. Now if I would of lost it would of cost me my fees and there fees!!!! So if lawyer takes your case for free pretty good deal!   Name: Almostthere E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 04 January 2018 If a lawyer only gets paid if you win. What do you have to lose? I'd encourage all these guys out of service to call a lawyer. From everything I'm reading on Fmla you all have a solid case.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 04 January 2018 up to the present you can attempt to sue the RR, generally without support from your union, for various violations of federal law, but I have RARELY seen targeting a low level official and attaching personal liability. Typically a medium level boss will "target" a craft employee, and trainmaster's, etc. will be super eager to do the hit, and protect their mediocre career. If they were personally liable, and would carry the stigma of a law suit to their non RR job, they might decline the crookedness involved. AND, the RR in JAX may end up paying for "hits" they didn't sanction, that were performed for personal reasons at no cost to the lower managers that actually "spent" the companies assets. The recent "resignation" of an Avon yardmaster after YEARS of protected sexual harassment is a good example, (he is an EMT now) as are many Avon higher officials over the years. EHH at least fired some of them - usually after they got promoted, often multiple times - right Dave?. The best possible RR supervisor, IMHO, is a RETIRED military E-8/9, with a pension, who knows how leadership is supposed to be, and is financially secure. CSX did have a retired USNA grad, a "nuc", get fired from Georgia (M of W)over refusing to cover up safety stats,and he sued and won. A rare situation, though.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 January 2018 If the company wants to target someone and fire them. That just adds another zero on a settlement and another low life manager to sue.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 January 2018 HUMAN RESOURCES get some! https://www.stephaniehahn.com/blog/2017/07/employees-may-sue-hr-directors-for-fmla-violations.shtml   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 January 2018 https://www.stephaniehahn.com/blog/2017/07/employees-may-sue-hr-directors-for-fmla-violations.shtml   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 January 2018 http://www.hrmorning.com/yes-managers-can-be-personally-liable-for-fmla-violations/ Lower managers you think CSX will have your back? But I was just doing what I was told to do doesn't excuse you.   Name: L&N dispr E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years Posted: 04 January 2018 Dave, I know too well about the code line.. About 1993 you could count on once a month on the Chattanooga sub going down at 0300. The road ran next to the ML, they would tie it around the bumper of a truck and run for 8 miles to get the copper wire... That was always a fun night. Worked with Bill Mabe just a few times when working the ACD.. Bill Sheera was very smart guy but did not know the difference Between a clear signal from a medium approach or absolute from a permissive... Worked with Nicely's two kids, Troy and Angie. Both were eager to learn but had daddy to sponsor them. Think Angie finally made Div Supt, don't know about Troy. I am retired now, so I have been out of the loop...and to be honest, don't give a rat's azz anymore... Still have numerous friends still working so I keep up with what is going on. Have to watch that 401k...   Name: Dickweed E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 January 2018 Turnyourphoneoff You sound like you have a 9th grade education. You also sound like the type that thinks because you have been here longer, you are better.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years Posted: 03 January 2018 Looking over the TA for the Carmen and I’m quite embarrassed that our union took 3 years to negotiate this. You literally took 3 years to accomplish nothing but a petty raise that’ll get swallowed up by increased union dues. Scardelletti will get hundreds of thousands of dollars in bonuses when this contract is ratified. While us workers will get a swift kick in the nuts. I love how their number 1 selling point of this TA is retroactive pay-on average over$3000. Give me a break, what a joke. Number two is increased wages over the contract period-on average over $20,000. I don’t know who does their math but a compounded wage increase of 13.1% over the five year contract period does not add up to$20,000. Ok I’m done now, bye 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 03 January 2018 Re turn your phone off As usual there is a mole trying to discredit those trying to exercise their rights or discredit. Bottom line: anyone who has been damaged has the right to sue for compensation. 

 Name: turnyourphoneoff E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 03 January 2018 fmla Blah blah blah Your actions and comments are making a hostile work environment. System notice had a hand it that too. That in itself is a direct violation of fmla. How about that one person who needs it and uses it and now he has to deal with assholes like you. 1 or 12 men layoff regular doesn't make anyone work more or less. If or when the carrier finds x amount of men who live on the rails. There will be massive layoffs. All you fucks who have been out here less than 10 years better hope the more senior man doesn't start living on the rails or you can kiss your ass goodbye. For the dumbass who believes someone has lost their job because of laying off over Christmas/New Year. You best put the crack pipe down. Turn your phone off and put the cigarette out new guy. 

 Name: FMLA E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 03 January 2018 For those of you that have FMLA and abuse the program, you know who you are and so does everyone else. There are plenty of people furloughed right now that would love to be working and you are too lazy to work a full week at a time, how pathetic! There are those that have FMLA and really do need it and only use it when they actually need it. If you abuse FMLA I hope you are terminated and I promise you won't be missed one bit by anyone. All you do is make it harder on everyone else around you. Typically the ones that abuse FMLA are also the ones that are piss poor employees anyways that your co-workers have to carry you lazy ass all day. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 03 January 2018 You employees have CSX hands down.Make CSX pay this is the wayHh intimidated us in Canada. We put grievances in and Hh had to pay. Make them pay!!! 

 Name: Sick E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 03 January 2018 Examples of prohibited conduct include: 1Refusing to authorize FMLA leave for an eligible employee, 2Discouraging an employee from using FMLA leave, 3Manipulating an employee’s work hours to avoid responsibilities under the FMLA, 4Using an employee’s request for or use of FMLA leave as a negative factor in employment actions, such as hiring, promotions, or disciplinary actions, or, 5Counting FMLA leave under “no fault” attendance policies 2 has been violated with With the new system notice and the removing of employees from service for Layoffs over the holidays. 5 has been violated with the caps attendance policy Those pulled out of service may be entitled to thousands of dollars in damages. I spoke with an attorney today out of Orlanda sounded very promising and he only gets paid if Iwin my suit. He said it's too late to apologize. That a hostile work environment is the result of the company's unilateral move. Which is also a violation. 

 Name: Dave E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 03 January 2018 L&N Pole Lines Can you imagine the cost of maintaining pole lines and revenue lost due to delays when a pole stops trains? Now consider this. People invest in CSX (share holders) and expect a return as the company grows or do things to increase their profits. This is primarily what Harrison was doing. The Asians have been given our businesses by government and share holders. This left Harrison with the option of doing things differently to increase profits for share holders. Getting rid of CSX fat,closing yards and getting rid of people is one sure way to increase profits for share holders. But who knows how to turn CSX back to slavery to increase th profits? Enter Harrison and starts changing CSX. This is not a new strategy used by those who are share holders. Harrison expires so will the new CEO follow the same strategies as Harrison? If he doesn't The share holders will fire him. So it is the share holders that are the route problem Make sense? Pole Lines were a tremendous cost to share holders so Bill Scheerer, Jim Maybe, C.J Nicely, Earl Currie , Hugh Hopkins eleminated the pole lines which spread nation wide costing train crewmen their safety. You're a Dispatcher and should be knowledgeable of false or dark Signals causing this. Don't trust the Signals!!!!!! Hopefully this helps in understanding. 

 Name: Lawyerup E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 03 January 2018 https://www.americanbar.org/groups/lawyer_referral/resources/attorney_referral_system. htm The above is dept. of labor approved Fmla attorneys. Contact one as soon as your pulled out of service due to a mark off. Don't let them get away with this. Also the Union needs to step up. This is an outrage. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 03 January 2018 Anyone seen any signs of retroactive pay yet? 

 Name: Dave E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 02 January 2018 L&N Dospatcher Good post that's what I'm talking about. Let me know and I'll try to help. The pole line cost a railroad big bucks each year. People steel miles of wire for srap. Storms and trees break pole lines, etc.. Each time this happens you stop trains, especially Amtrak. Our Chief Engineer ( Bill Scheerer) had the signal put on the rail to improve cost and efficiency. Nothing wrong with that, but the process he used is completely illegal while the FRA, NTSB and USDOT retaliates against me refusing my information in meetings and corrupting the Department Of Justice Judicial Branch. The new system is in use today endangering train crews and public. What can train crews do? Be aware and don't depend on the Signals totally they no longer work under fail safe. The message I have from CSX Signals to train crews is "We can no longer protect you." 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 02 January 2018 Loco That's all I'm asking is to post areas where problems exist and I'll try to explain where the company is screwing over train crews and public. This helps others to understand the dangers and can protect themselves until a fix can be made. As for right now government protects railroads for economic reasons and natiional interest. Unions are reactive not proactive in protecting you. Now: you mentioned seeing one Signal crew in one year. Many of my guys budgets to make repairs were the size of a household budget. Like three thousand a month to cover huge territories. When I checked into it my superiors were bid rigging and forcing the computer to use favorite vendors, bypassing the fair bid process. This overcharged budgets so much maintenance of the Signals fell apart. I reported to Auditing and pulled an audit showing tens of millions taken that should have been used to maintain Signals. Earl Currie (VP Engineering) ripped me from one end to the other. Assistant Chief Engineer of Signals ( Hugh Hopkins) had me escorted to the door on Water St.. He took my badge run copies of it and posted the mug shots all over the system, listing me as extremely dangerous, shoot on sight. Bill Scheere (Chief Engineer Signals) had me Black Listed. Protecting train crews and public is my job. Many others are involved but CSX left me no options accept to fight. 

 Name: L&N dispr E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years Posted: 02 January 2018 Dave, I know it has been awhile since you worked in the signal dept. There are not any poles for the code line anymore, it is now down by microwave. 

 Name: LOCO E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 02 January 2018 Corp 30 Again as I said , hats off to you for your effort to protect the crews and expose the corrupt csx organization. Is sounds as if you are passionate about your line of work. You would be an asset to any electrical union especially IBEW. Do yourself a favor and get out of the RR if you can. There are better and more respectable places to work than here. If you have too many years and seniority and its not worth giving it up, then maybe the last year you are hear you can go out with a bang! In the meantime all any of us can do out on the rails is just report when the signals malfunction or deal with the shunting and banner testing which is authorized by the FRA. Only once this year have I encountered a signal crew working on sigs and they didn't clear it with the dispatcher. It was a good thing I knew something was up ahead of time and heard a high railer talking to one of them on the radio. We hated to tone the dispatch up and report the sig dropping in front of us but had no choice. Needless to say they got an ass ripping from dispatch but they worked it out. Everyone makes mistakes. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a heads up. That's why we stay on our toes and don't screw around with our lives or anyone else's. We got enough crap to deal with. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 02 January 2018 Loco We're both posting. My posts are 100 percent to help crews on safety. I represent the CSX Signal Department against corporate theives who sold your safety. It is my responsibility to make sure the circuits pumping on you never enters the property. We work in different crafts and have a bit a problem understanding another craft in detail. You can't help me except to understand what I say is unsafe and pass it along. I'll fight with the big guys you'll never meet. My explaining things are helpful when you guys help. Ex: you mention Signals pumping. I tell you it's illegal and puts you guys in danger. The signal you are talking about is an Epic or Electro-Code. Most of the problem comes from taking the signal code from a poline which is insolated from interference and putting the coded signal on bare tracks, laying on the ground . In the area you are talking about----- does it have poline or signal code on the tracks? See, we work for the same railroad!!! 

 Name: Lc E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 02 January 2018 you think your employer has violated the FMLA, you should schedule a consultation with an experienced lawyer. A lawyer can review your situation, identify any legal problems in the way your employer treated you, and help you decide what to do next. For example, you might want the lawyer to coach you on how to talk to your manager, to write a letter to your employer on your behalf, or even to file a lawsuit in court. Many employment lawyers charge you only if you win your claim, so you may not need to pay a lawyer up front. 

 Name: Mr Ed E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year Posted: 02 January 2018 Anyone laid off FM over the holidays are being pulled out of service. Contact the Dept. of Labor immediately. Filing a Complaint with the Secretary of Labor A complaint may be filed in person, by mail or by telephone with the Wage and Hour Division, U.S. Department of Labor. A complaint may be filed at any local office of the Wage and Hour Division. The complaint should be filed within a reasonable time of when the employee discovers that his or her FMLA rights have been violated. Filing a Private Lawsuit An employee also has the right to file a private lawsuit under the FMLA in any Federal or state court of competent jurisdiction. The FMLA is subject to a statute of limitations. This means that, generally, suit must be filed within two years after the last action that the employee believes was in violation of the FMLA, or three years if the violation was willful. (It is up to the court to rule whether the alleged violation occurred and, if so, whether it was willful.) A state employee's right to private action may be limited. 

 Name: loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 02 January 2018 Ape Quite aware of CFR49 Parts 200-299. Have obtained every new reissue for the last 10 years. I know where you are coming from. What isn't acceptable is blaming the crews for crossing deaths and derailments. Thats bullshit! One of the imposter pines tactics. As for safety for the crews, hats off to you if your trying to change the whole system. The real pines tried it for ever and got no where except jail. We have rules in place that address this issue on the sigs. I personally just had one pumping a few days ago and did as any seasoned engineer with a brain in head does. Stop, tone up the dispatch and take the sig as most restrictive looking out. You seem to be a little more mature than the goating fake pines. good luck to. We aren't holding our breaths. Follow our rules of the road and spend our time fighting the hell we are being put through. We'll leave the political crash for you. Don't forget, the FRA laws cover everything we are fighting to get changed which is a hell of a lot more than just bad sigs and crossings. 

 Name: Retired Now E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 02 January 2018 Was in my 27th year when the csx nap rule & it's stipulations came out. Prior to then - get caught sleeping & charges pressed = out of service. Wonder how many of the pups that post on this site ever worked out in the field in this type of weather we're experiencing now & climbed on/into an old EMD GP-7 or even older/worse locomotive that had piss-poor blower heat that may or may not have provided much, if any, warmth. (Most Cabooses were not much better either - especially later, when those things were on the chopping block.) Saw plenty of signal "pumping" out on the road over the yrs. Normally/usually, a signal maintainer would get that fixed. Is a PITA - people in warm, dry, well lit offices barking orders at others who are out in the field. Very true, some come from the T&E ranks & they can be among the worst to have to deal with. Safety First in this cold, harsh weather: Dress warm. Carry extra clothing. Maybe you'll want it - maybe you won't. Keep your breathing passages covered. If have to dress \ look like the Michelin Man, so be it. If you smoke, lay or back off. Carry food (anymore, most do that anyway), there's lots of stuff that is safe for a while - even if it isn't the healthiest - don't have to consume it constantly. Lots of other workers have to deal with adverse weather conditions. Good luck to all. Take care. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 30+ years Posted: 02 January 2018 Loco Of course I'm baiting you, it's the only way I can get you off Pines or throwing some pity party, posting anything but issues that protect the train crews. Do I need to know what you? Of course NOT!!!!!! You done a good enough job to let me know you at least know a little. Now let me give you one small example of things you don't know and couldn't. You mentioned Signals pumping in bad weather. This is totally illegal the Signals are required under federal regulations to operate on the fail safe principle. In other words they are not allowed to pump putting train crews in danger. The equipment used causing the pumping is being used as more of a frequency operated device which allows interference from track conditions, lighting or even an old car with a bad plug wire. In other words railroads are using the equipment to save hundreds of millions each year, while putting train crews and public in danger. Before you start one of your rants LISTEN for a change. There are corporate people fighting every day to protect train crews and are hammered on even to being threatened to be killed. Then we have to try and sale safety to the ones they fight for. Shunting a signalized track without taking authority is illegal. Messing with any signal operation is illegal. I know you have a lot of rules to read but read CFRs title 49 section 234. That's what we have to know to save your lives. No we have no control over your hands being cold or your toilet won't flush, but we do care and are confronted with the same evils as everyone else. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 02 January 2018 I worked for Hh for four years.He was a sadist,and loved to punish employees for anything as to control them more. We put in grievances after grievances and we won 87 percent of them.And he refused to pay for them but had no choice. This management that worked for him at CSX. Better change there ways and throw the Hh rule book out.The back bone of the railroad are the workers on the ground and they know it.This management has upset employees ,the government ,customers and the public.The management better start treating there people with respect and as an asset to the well being of CSX. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 02 January 2018 A twenty minute nap can revive a person and make them more alert.The union should take this up with the government.To put pressure on the railroads,this is about public safety.And there is medical evidence that a nap is healthy for an exhausted person. 

 Name: tech E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years Posted: 02 January 2018 Ape That's all fine and good if you don't have a camera on the other units. Have already been told that all units will be down loaded when they are checking for use of the cell phones. Remember, the random down loads they are ordering. And yes, they can down load foreign line engines. Just get off and take a walk in below freezing weather. if that doesn't wake you up nothing will. The company doesn't care. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 02 January 2018 If you have more than one unit on head end take turns have nap in another unit 

 Name: throttle E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 January 2018 loco/engineer you wouldn't happen to be talking about avon yard would you? Sitting out at Pontiac road? I got some info for you. Several of us heard a few ym talking about how the road crews are taking their time coming in on purpose just to screw them and slow down the yard. Talking like its a personal attack on them. Some of them are from the craft and they know exactly what you are talking about and they know its bullshit to try and rush a crew in after they have sat out of the yard for hours with half the time you need to do the work safely. Its real sad that they come from the craft and are union brothers but bad mouth the crews and suck management now. What's even a bigger joke is that they hold you out after you have been on the road for 9-10 hours and all night long then expect you to sit there and not be able to take turns taking a nap like we used to be able to do. Got those camera's right in front of your face. Cant use your phone to do anything to keep yourself alert. Want you to read the company rules book and nothing else. Try reading that dribble for hours on end after you are dog tired and up all night. I thought I would never say this but I wish we still had Ward and they never let that piece of crap HH come on board. There is no reason we cant take a nap as long as the other crew member is awake and we are calling stopped every 15 minutes. That guy was the devil himself. It's a serious safety issue. Trying to stay awake while you sit in the same spot for hours after being up for hours wears you out. Its stressful on the body. No reason to not be able to take a nap. 

 Name: Engineer E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 January 2018 LOCO AMEN BROTHER!!! You said exactly what I have been thinking for weeks. You burned the hell out of the pines character. He is definitely a copy cat. There is no doubt you are an engineer. You got me with the comment about the idiot x rfs delaying our trains them expecting us to do the last minute photo finish. I couldn't count how many times I've had to wait 2-3 hours outside the yard to get in then the retards tell us to come on in with only 45 minutes left to work and we have at least an hours work. They even have had the balls to ask us to run the power to the service area after we are outlawed. They don't want it sitting in the middle of the yard waiting to find someone to move it. I even had a TM tell me once that we were in they yard so HOS didn't matter and if we stayed off the radio no one would know. Just so you know we all know what the hell you were talking about when you called it a license instead of fra certification card. We all call it a license. I don't know of any engineer that says he's carrying a certification card. It isn't any different than a drivers license its just for a train. You weren't kidding about the eot either. Its becoming a real joke. I hope your bringing your train down to 30 mph like you are supposed to. I do every single time and make sure the disp. knows. Stick it to them and make them recrew if they have to. Got to many engineers kissing their asses and running it track speed anyway. It's not helping a thing kissing their asses. Give it up imposter pines. You got burned on this one. No doubt Loco is an engineer. Your play on words don't mean shit. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 January 2018 LOCO It's FRA Certification you numb nut phoney ---your Foamer Railroad Actor license comes out of a cracker jack box in yours mommas kitchen. http://csx-sucks.com/SiteDist.pdf Safety question ---If 16.2 feet of see per mile per hour of train speed is required at crossings how can anybody not allowing that call themselves an engineer? If the screws for ice cleats are sticking your feet. Are the screws too long. 

 Name: LOCO E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 01 January 2018 Corporate 30 Expose me? HA! HA! You think a stupid question about signal indications and what changes them is going to expose me? Lets try dispatch setting up signal indications, shunting the circuits with the train, trains in the blocks ahead of you changing indications, opening switches on the main line, signals pumping in bad weather, track circuits down, sig. maintainers working on the line, and the best of all.... the ignorant EXRF who is now just a TM shunting the track to drop the sig, for a banner test when you only have an hour left to work with 50 miles to run. Then they want a photo finish! If you think for one moment I am company mole and not a real engineer holding an FRA engineer license, frankly I don't give a rats butt. What I do care about and what most posters on here who are true railroaders care about is how we are treated on the job and what is happening to our craft and the damage that EHH has done to our railroad. No one wants this site bombarded with a copy cat pines who spent the last 12 years on here crying and ranting and raving about his dead wife and blaming the crews for her stupidity. This new and improved imposter is a frickin blast from the past and no one wants another 12 years of this site being manipulated and controlled by another obsessed nut job who just wants to rant from his basement and debate with everyone. Watch him jump in every time anyone post anything that is negative that is going on right now! First sign of a company mole who is on here to distract posters from whats going on in the yards and terminals or cant stand it when he's losing attention! Don't think for one moment Im going to play stupid and tell you who I am or what terminal I work out of. That's for morons. You want a safety post????? How about my tele going out over half the trip because the train is to damn long and it keeps throwing me a FR No com. How about the TM rushing out the crews and ordering them to cut corners on class 1 brake test because its so damn cold they cant get the air up to legal levels(75) on the rear. Got a lot of that going on. This is the last time I will let you bait me. Go play somewhere else. Us real railroaders have more serious problems going on that need to be discussed and revealed! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 01 January 2018 Loco I can't resist exposing you. This IS a parody site so don't get offended and start cursing. There are lights on tracks can you explain what their purpose is? Can you tell me what makes them change color? Come on now, a seasoned railroader like yourself should be able to answer. All: How much you wanna beck Loco won't answer? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 01 January 2018 All The post made by Loco is how you spot a mole. He never posts anything on safety nor anything other than trash talking others. Check out his posts don't take my word for it. Loco claims to be a seasoned veteran running trains but doesn't understand the simplest of terms on railroads. If anyone cares about his posts please inform him about sneaking up on a crossing making 3 mph or less. As for the post I was trying to explain the CSX brain washing practice. Hey mole tell me why the wheels fall off cars on most derailments? Another way to spot a mole, Loco won't answer. 

 Name: White collar E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 01 January 2018 Louisville and rocky mount n.c. are next to go. These terminals are not part of the big plan. Expect louisville to close by Mid March and rocky mount by July 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 January 2018 when You get hurt at work who pays for your lawyer to represent you. Just wondering from Canada.We had some guys transfer to st.paul min. From here so they would fall under your laws. ????? 

 Name: Corp E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 01 January 2018 UP FELA That post is going to ruffle some feathers at the home office. The csx medical department and their lawyers have been well aware of this issue for several years. It isn't the easiest case to take on. They will look into every inch of your past and try to find anything they can use that would point to a previous injury or doctor visits related to the same issues. Plenty cases have been won so employees shouldn't be discouraged from pursuing this issue if problems started after exposure on the railroad. Disability may be the end result. 

 Name: Na E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 January 2018 Pines Go crawl back into your slime hole. Your useless. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 January 2018 LOCO sez ___Since I am a seasoned engineer--- What's that even mean--your on a rotisserie with garlic and cloves stuck up your butt or what? Seasoned where--when--why you lookin for pappa--you have no seasoned name--- Since your really a tinker toy railroad addicted clown from Idaho I won't even say the train windows could be open, the train door open, looking out the second story. So if we can't see the idiots on the trains how do they see us? No wonder you seasoned dumb dumbs run down LIVE garbage bags all the time. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 January 2018 You people are lucky you can sue your employer and get proper compensation. In Canada we have a compinsation board which is all for the employer.you can be messed up with mri proof. Here chronic pain is not recognized,if you can move they fast track you back to work. Then you are cut off benefits,there your employer fires you for something else because they don’t want to accommodate an injured worker. Most people end up on the street on welfare here. You have a much better system in the USA. 

 Name: injured E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for N/A Posted: 01 January 2018 UP Thank you for posting this info. Employees can also google whole body vibration injury and find more details on the subject. I have been in discussion with my doctor over this and there are several engineers who are now battling CSX over it. The constant vibration that is felt from the seats of the locomotives is the contributing factor. There has been an in depth case study of this and it has been proven that prolonged exposure to the body by constant vibration can cause serious nerve and muscle damage. I have numerous symptoms from this and I also now a nerve in the middle of my back that has gone completely numb. The number one damage seems to be to the sciatica in the buttocks and lower back area. A law suit for this injury must be in process within 3 years of the onset of the injury. The railroads are well aware of vibration in the locomotives. 

 Name: UP FELA CLAIMS INFO E-mail: lrinfo@up.com Employed as: CSX Contractor, for N/A Posted: 01 January 2018 Information Only Claims For Vibration Exposure: UP is encouraging all TE&Y employees to submit a vibration exposure claim, within the three year statue of limitation limits. The Onset of Symptoms is Usually: Discomfort Pain Numbness Tingling Burning Swelling Factors may that may be associated with these symptoms may include: Intense long duration exposure to combinations of force and repetition Doing task beyond your physical capabilities Exposure to vibration above maximum health guidelines. Report symptoms if they: Are persistent, severe or worsening Radiate Keep you from sleeping at night If you have constant or unusual symptoms see [your] doctor and NOT the company nurse. Once an evaluation is completed, and it is determined that treatment is needed, contact your FELA approved attorney for a free consultation. Depending on years of service, settlements are generally above three hundred thousands dollars ($300,000.00). This information is provided to all Railroaders. Happy New Year!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 January 2018 Every one with an asshole has an opinion.Like I said daddy got some of these managers there job. They don’t have the field experiences,and have to wing it to sound smarter than the rest of us. To try and justify there existence for the space they take up in the management pool. Think about the managers that where cut before Hh took over.There was a lot of dead weight there.They had to much time on there hands so they ran around to try and find something to make a case out of. Then they could do there formal investigations,again to try and make themselves look important.what CSX is allowing these morons to do is creat an atmosphere,that is negative. And down the round it will bite them in the ass. Every one needs a favour and a friend at some point in there career.But these managers are burning all there bridges behind them.   Name: Loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 01 January 2018 Pines Since I am a seasoned engineer and have a lot more experience than you could every have I can say without a shadow of a doubt that poster is a liar and is a poser just like you. Someone who hates the crews just like you but probably not for the same reasons. Your support for some poser crack pot and the bashing of innocent crew members is disgusting and frankly just shows how sick your mind has become. I have been out on the rails far longer than you have hung out and played stand by. I can tell you right now without a shadow of a doubt that there is no way he saw the crew members laughing or cracking up over hitting a street sweeper. I don't know one single person who I have worked with that ever thought it was funny when they hit any vehicle or even have a near miss. WE DONT THINK THAT ITS FUNNY! We have no desire to deal with that stupid crap or the time it waste. We don't enjoy seeing someone hurt or killed. Second, unless the man was standing on the front of the engine looking in the window there was no way he could tell what their expressions where if this even really occurred. I pass crews on other trains on a weekly basis. I am at the same height right next to them and it is almost impossible to identify who is on the other train unless you have worked with them and are familiar with their profile. If it was dark, cloudy or even sunny it cast shadows on the windows and unless the crew has their faces right up in the window which I guarantee you they didn't then you wouldn't be able to tell what kind of expressions they had on their faces. a lot of windows have a tinting on them. A two bit dime store lawyer would laugh that one out of court. Stop with your baiting. Get a life man. Stop making a fool of yourself. You got proof CSX is breaking the law and endangering lives then post it to your hearts desire but stop with the crew bashing and supporting some crack pot liar just because your bored and need some attention no matter how you get it!   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 31 December 2017 Name: Loco ---So now train crews are invisible and street sweepers don't make noise. Think I'll make Aug. 12th a stomp Jens Bang a new ass and warp his head day   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 31 December 2017 Remember a lot of these corporate people are As weak as water.Daddy got them the job and they are sell important. Outside of the railway industry they are minimum wage people.In there atmosphere in management there is so much ass kissing,and they all fight to suck the biggest cock. For most that is how they keep a job.   Name: Loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 31 December 2017 Corp. Your a damn liar. No way in hell you saw their faces in the cab and could see their expressions. Sneaking up on a crossing? How does a 210 tone motor bigger than a semi sneak up on a crossing. Your so full of shit. Go take your mole ass somewhere else.better yet give us more details on when and where this happened. You should have been a witness and made a report to the local authorities. RR should have record of witness report. Would love to read your bullshit. This is why innocent crew members have so much shit to deal with when a idiot doesn't pay attention. Crack pots like you with your bull crap stories.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 31 December 2017 Take The Co post about killing pedestrians because he is cold. The post is exactly how corporate feels. This post will be read by many people so what then is the opinion of train crewmen? Trust me there are many crewmen who have been brain washed into thinking all drivers are stupid, mindless idiots. I watched a crew sneak up on a crossing last year without activating the lights and gates. They crushed a street sweeper trying to cross. I looked in the cab and the crew was cracking up over scaring the driver to death. This was a NS train. How do you think this effects the opinion of the public? Co you're simply a mole.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 31 December 2017 Re: Friend I'm glad you understood my post many do but don't comment. Railroads are afraid of one single thing MEDIA. They control most everything accept the media CSX- SUCKS being a part of the media. Used properly this site can create changes to help railroader. If you were a CSX bad guy treating people bad would you want your name and actions posted on this site? If the employees would start posting safety problems and bad guys CSX has no options but to respond by getting rid of bad things. The reason you read so many posts that don't apply to safety is corporate discrediting the site and what's being said. Think of it: if you slam a poster you become a mole whether union or not. If you make posts other than safety you are a mole discrediting safety. This site is a powerful tool everyone should treat it as such. By putting out safety problems and rediculous actions of the railroads will result in positive changes.   Name: Co E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 December 2017 Pines/dirt bag BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.... Now to more important info. 4 degrees from Chicago to Indy all day. High of -8 at night. Monday even worse. Hoggers use that dynamic! Sticky frozen brakes and slow ass air recovery puts the conductor at risk walking the train. If you hit a dumb ass at a crossing don't get out till the cops and RR feds show up. Not worth risking frost bite for some dumb ass. Keep safe and keep warm! Take plenty of fusees. Going to need them for frozen locks. And shop those motors if the heat isn't up to fra standards. when you tie down motors in the yard for lunch that doesn't count as the start of lunch time. GC office has said lunch time Starts when you get in the building. Full 20 minutes. What a f..king joke.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 31 December 2017 Mugshots.com ID: 69908027 Age: 60 Home Address: Sullivan Arrest Date: 11/21/2013 Info: was arrested on the charge of Tampering With a Witness. A warrant was issued and he remains in custody. A monitor will be placed around his neck and will alert railroads of any suspicious activity by this convicted felon. If you see this disturbed individual call the police or your local nut house...He usually has that " deer in the headlight" look on his face, so he will be easy to recognize.   Name: Dirt nap returns E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 31 December 2017 Guess a real """railroader""" reads this ---plugs in train counts/speeds/traffic counts/accident counts. Comes up with number one most dangerous crossing in NY. Sees the ...priority when quiet zones start...---Thinks ---hey there are no train horns anyway so there will be no priority---they are stupid ---and walks into the Senators office with the FACTS??? OR does the real """Railroader""" like diesel foot warmers? http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/rockland/clarkstown/2017/11/13/clarkstown-csx-train-hits-suv/859041001/ 545074Y 41.0854530,-73.9617120 24 trains a day at 50 mph Crossing ID 545074Y == On Dec 06, 2013 a FREIGHT TRAIN operated by CSX Transportation [CSX ] hit a TRUCK & TRAILER at approximately 11:40AM in New York in ROCKLAND county on PINEVIEW RD road. The incident occurred in/near ORANGEBURG city. The rail equipment was reported to have been traveling at 044 Mph with 2 locomotive(s) and 99 cars(s). The TRUCK & TRAILER had been traveling in an easternly direction at 005 Mph. The railroad was operating on main line track over a private road crossing. It was cloudy, during the day and the temperature was 40. There were 0 death(s) and 1 injured in this incident and a Railroad Injury/Illness Report (form FRA-55a) was also filed. The 55 year old male driver was moving on the crossing and was reported to have not stopped. There were 1 occupant(s) in the vehicle. The view of the track was not obstructed. The railroad was transporting hazardous material. The crossing was protected by: Crossbucks WHILE OPERATING NORTHBOUND ON SINGLE MAIN TRACK, THE K04305 CREW REPORTS STRIKING SEMI AUTO CARRIER RESULTING IN DAMAGE TO LEAD LOCOMOTIVE. FUEL TANK ON SEMI TRUCK RUPTURED AND CAUGHT FIRE REQUIRING CREW MEMBERS TO EVACUATE THE LOCOMOTIVE WHEN TRAIN CAME TO A STOP.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 31 December 2017 ....He is sharp but not a railroader....So the "how to be a railroader" is on page 2,000 of a little prayer book somewhere in the special kind of stupid section? He isn't a doctor either but knows not to use two band aids on a mastectomy. From the Ozarks---One train a week on the other side of town to the largest tie yard in the country at one time. Shut down--all signals stolen and like a 100 crossings still open on inventory. Many with signals just sitting there. Oh---and it was the stupid fuck "RAILROADER" second victim at the SAME piece of shit blind crossing and still no train horn.So yes--a lot of it is stupid fuck "railroader" fault and maybe some serial killers thrown in.   Name: Friend E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 December 2017 Ape You got that right. Dirt nap/pines at it again. We also need to make jan.1st stick it up the TMS number crunching ass day. Slow down and take your time do you don't sljp and get hurt. Pray it gets so stinking cold the air won't come up on these 2 mile long trains and motors freeze up. Maybe then the cold hearted bastards won't run their pie holes on how it's not that bad out there.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 31 December 2017 August 12 should be national " kill an idiot at a crossing" day...   Name: Dirt nap returns E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 30 December 2017 http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article192267679.html Car and train collide in rural Collinsville Google map location 38.675637,-89.9641136 Private---Just POS baby signs the railroad puts there which mean nothing legally. NO SIGNALS. Typical too narrow crossing with the Evel Knieval jump hump when design calls for flat +/- 3 inches both sides for 30 feet. No train horns at private crossings till the last second freezing drivers like deer in the headlights. The 16.2 feet per mph of the train sight see lines not there. Then a take off from a stop on the hump on ice is impossible. Railroads should be made to put out traction at crossings in bad weather. USDOT crossing number ---546573T ---11 trains a day ---60 mph trains at the next public crossing 2738 0.012896 546574A CSX IL MADISON COLLINSVILLE S MULBERRY RD 0 0 0 0 0 GT 11 2 60 YES 2 800 The crossing on the other side PUBLIC Rolek Road is on the drawing board for lights/gates at a ridiculous$335,000 these thieves get away with. Reconstruct Approaches ---SO IS THERE A APPROACH PROBLEM ON ALL THESE CROSSINGS THE PUBLIC IS NOT BEING MADE AWARE OF? https://www.toi.org/Downloads/899/Twp 546572L CSX Madison Collinsville Rolek Road Automatic Install Flashing Light Signals and Gates Reconstruct Approaches $335,000   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 30 December 2017 There will always be people out there that only hear what they want to hear.And ignore everything else!   Name: Friend E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 30 December 2017 Loco I'm sorry that no one was smart enough to see the point of your post. Everyone is just plain brain dead and so blinded by pines ranting and raving he started after that Amtrak derailment. I completely get it because I just lived it. It's was 6 degrees and cold as hell and snow blowing with wind chill that kills your face. I got tracks to pull to build trains and when I finally get to leave the God forsaken hell hole I hear a YM telling someone the cold hearted number crunching TM was pitching a bitch because he didn't think we were working like we could and the weather wasn't that bad! If I didn't have kids at home I would have told the bastard to kiss my ass. I'm not lazy and I'm not someones whipping post or bitch for his numbers. EHH is going to have a lot of familiar faces in hell with him. I miss the old heads who had balls. Wish I could pull off a strike all by myself but not gonna work!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 30 December 2017 I know a lot of good Hoggers that are pretty gentle with there train. But get upset when they break a knuckle. As a train inspector I tell them there is nothing they can do about it. With these long trains there is so much extra stress put on these knuckles that it is just a matter of time before they break. I have changed more knuckles that are cracked than ever before.It is alarming how many knuckles are out there that are cracked and just waiting to break. The longer the train the more chance of breaking. My friend stopped using the dynamic break on trains with slaves on tail end because he would almost get a knuckle every time!!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 30 December 2017 Re: Conductor 20 to 30 Pines hasn't posted in at least five years. He was from St Louis. His ex wife turned left in front of a BNS train and was killed. His problem was not with train crews but came to an understanding of the corruption between states, Feds, railroads and fraud against crossing protection. The current Pines knows people do stupid stuff ending up in front of a train, but railroads are using equipment that tells drivers it is safe to cross with the gates up and lights off and pull in front of you. He knows you can't stop but drivers and train crews are being set up by railroads. He is sharp but not a railroader. Posters slam pines and he slams back but you must remember many people monitor CSX-SUCKS. A perfect example of what I'm talking about is the UTA / Fed Ex. The report was totally false and the Signalman fired falsely. There is no one to help him while the NTSB and FRA are working against him. Train crewman are also blaimed and imprisoned for murder in the same situation.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 30 December 2017 Re: Loco Good example of slamming on the breaks of your pick and all the kegs slam into the truck cab. Force of nature. Heavies in the front hazmat in rear. Don't over load the train which decreases stopping. With a train the load pushes to the front or the heavy engines. Railroads don't want to tear up these engines in a derailment so the engines disconnect. In any case corporate will blame the train crew or maybe a deer for causing the derailment.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 30 December 2017 No corporate, the comment wasn't because of that. The comment was for pines who thinks that when a car gets hit by a train, that it's the crews fault. Anyone with a driver's license knows that if there are tracks, that you should stop and look whether there are gates or crossbucks or no sign at all. The train was already coming before someone decided that they don't have to look before crossing. That's what it meant. I know there are dozens of things that could be our fault, and could be prevented, but when someone in a car uses bad judgement, it's too late for us to do anything about it.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A Posted: 30 December 2017 Re:loco That is absolutely the best post I have ever read. Hats off to the railroader in which I am proud to be a part of CSX is a great company which has been taken over by criminals who offset the companies bottom line through theft. However they are so important to the nation government sides with them. They have control over most everything except public opinion. Believe it or not most of the public think highly of railroads and are restricted from knowing the bad things that go on, mostly by false reporting of the media. At least right now.   Name: Loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 30 December 2017 Derailment/ape Your in a pickup truck with your kegs in the back.Some idiot slams on his brakes in front of you. Naturally you slam on yours. Guess where your kegs end up. Against the back of your truck cab. Your face is in the window on the dash. Moral of the story? Don't slam on the dynamics. They can be used in any senario if used with half a brain. Start early and easy. Don't strip them either way. anticipate hills. Know your slack. Don't hot dog them! Facts: trains derail and have since the beginning of railroads because of 1-bad track not maintained 2-bad equipment rushed out on the rail 3-acts of mother nature -wash outs,heated rails,etc. 4-bad train handling. 5-what ever else you think of. When your dead and burried trains will still be derailing. What can you do about it? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. DEBATE,CRY.WHINE,PROTEST BUT IT WON'T CHANGE! What can change is abuse and disregard for human suffering at the hands of greedy cold hearted supervisors and shareholders who forget that their bread and butter comes from the lowly blue collar workers in the field that build and run their damn trains. The workers who repair that rotten equipment and the workers who keep their signals,track and switches working. How about a hands up for the poor carknockers who are trying to get air through 2 Mile long cuts in 20 below so they can do a damn class 1 air test. I guess abusing and belittling workers have become so common place no one gives a shit anymore. So I'll just come in from working 6 fu...Kin hours in 7 degree weather to be told 20 minutes later to get the help back outside and hope I had enough time to warm my food up and choke it down. 20 minute stinking lunch. the damn garbage man gets a longer lunch then that! Oh shit, sorry I got side tracked. We were debating erailments! My bad!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 30 December 2017 Re: Dickface Son I've forgotten more about railroads than you'll ever know. Nun the less your post indicates you have been brain washed. I haven't heard your comments other than at the GOB in Jax.. I must of got under your skin. Not to worry I too was brain washed for years. When you do things wrong do you say " I'm just doing what I'm told to do its not my fault" I did too. And people who die or are injured? WELL it's their fault since we were hear first. Mole/company guy. Ha!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 30 December 2017 That's a good one APE you don't like your conductor break the knucle. Ha! Now look at the couplers. They are open at the top which allows a disconnect when cars run into each other if you lock em up. So going into emeregence stop can cause a derail but how it derails saves railroads big bucks. You don't want the cars running down the street or chasing down cars a half mile away to get them back on track. You want the cars to stay on property. When you go into immergency a lite car is in front of many other cars or a heavy car. The weight pushs against the lite car that breaks the knuckle and the car jumps in the front and jack knifes. This causes many cars to jack knife stopping the train by becoming a led sled. The derailed cars can be filled with hazmat, but regardless the procedure endangers the crew, responders and public. As you state the weight of the car only holds the wheels on save a small metal block if not missing. When the cars start bucking up in the air there is little to hold the wheels on. This is why derailed cars generally have no wheels.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 30 December 2017 On a new rail car you have 2”of free slack on each end of the car. Once the coupler draft gear get worn in you can have up to 10” of free slack at each end of a rail car. Now you apply the brakes on a hundred car train that free slack turns into feet. That is a lot of energy force. Pushing to the front of train. If you do not control it with your air brakes you could have a derailment.Same as starting to pull a train there is so much free slack that by the time the energy hits the tail end of the train it could pull the end of the car off. There is a lot of physics at play for the engineer to control his train. If an engineer does not like the conductor. He knows how to break. Knuckle. Lol   Name: Dickfaces E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 30 December 2017 And anyone with a couple brain cells knows that the axles are held there by the weight of the railcar. They are made to come out from under the car when it becomes upset so it drags to a stop. The axles are very rarely the cause of any damage, you just think they are because you believe the news that doesn't know shit, and you believe that a railroad that was there 100 years before roads and cars, and houses that were dumbassedly built beside tracks, doesn't have the right of way. Go suck your thumb and cry about how scared you are of big scary trains that ran over your stupid wife that was somewhere she didn't belong.   Name: Dickfaces E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 30 December 2017 Pines and his many other fake names: just stop. No one cares. We're not dumb enough to believe that someone else would post immediately after you and agree with you, and or to argue with you in a way that lets you answer with a point you were trying to make. It's obvious that rrjim, pines, l&n, and whoever else happens to show up at the exact time as you, is in fact you. They all lack the same knowledge that proves that you don't know shit about any of this bullshit you're always trying to sell.   Name: Derailment E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 30 December 2017 An engineer was coming down a grade with loaded train cars. To slow the train down he used the dynamic brake only. Which caused twenty cars behind the locomotives to derail in an accordion fashion. If he would of used his air breaks at the same time this derailment would not of happened. The force of that energy has to work for you not against you. And he was not going very fast at all.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 30 December 2017 I see what this Guys sayin!!!! Many things can cause a derailment but it's what happens next that saves the company money in a lot of ways, each one putting people in danger, not really because of the derailment but the damage caused by cars and tankers flying everywhere. So if no one will say it I will. To keep cars from flying everywhere the wheels fall off causing a lead sled. Look at the wheels! They're designed to fall off.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 30 December 2017 So much railroad"""oh woe is us""" dribble on a Saturday. Someone cares. Do ya chip ice going up a 500 foot tower to change a pre-amp? Dig a 3 feet trench in rock hard frozen ground long enough to splice out where the state drove a road sign turning off the Super Bowl? Do ya NOT KNOW WHY TRAIN WHEELS FLY OFF the reason for the dribble?? https://www.bnsf.com/communities/safety-and-security/safety-and-technical-training/ ...Our network of 48 locomotive simulators, based both at the TTC and in the field, provides distance-learning opportunities where employees work. The simulations can be customized to reflect various train types, weather, terrain and times of day... https://m.soundtransit.org/sites/default/files/Motion%20M2015-106_0.pdf >>>Fund software development for BNSFs NETSIM training simulation<<< So three deaths while committing fraud is homicide on the BNSF RR one would think.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 30 December 2017 I see you didn't read the comments. No one said anything about "feathering the brakes" & going into emergency. The one thing an engineer has to do if the train is in emergency while under power is to bail off the independent place the automatic in between first service & full service to maintain 20 seconds of power.   Name: Foamer E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 30 December 2017 So why would some of you smart guys feather the brakes to bring your train to a stop if it's in emergency ? Will this help to prevent a derailment? Perhaps you should share your knowledge so we can be safer out here.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 30 December 2017 Working out in the cold? You work for a railroad. Cutting extra boards? I remember there were those who wanted them cut so they could work & make more. I'm sure Hog Heads are still out there. Maybe some have never really been hungry. I spent 5+ years constantly getting furloughed-marked up-furloughed etc... waiting for the day I'd work year round. During those years back in the '70s extra boards during winter were cut and those working were running up. If you were lucky they'd call you up off the furlough board to sweep switches there was no HOS so one could work till they cut you off. Nothings changed on getting sick. Most of us went to work sick then tried to kick it while in lodging. Times haven't changed they remain the same.   Name: ENG E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 30 December 2017 PINES NO ONE CARES!!!!!   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 30 December 2017 https://www.bnsf.com/communities/safety-and-security/safety-and-technical-training/ ...Our network of 48 locomotive simulators, based both at the TTC and in the field, provides distance-learning opportunities where employees work. The simulations can be customized to reflect various train types, weather, terrain and times of day... https://m.soundtransit.org/sites/default/files/Motion%20M2015-106_0.pdf >>>Fund software development for BNSFs NETSIM training simulation<<< So three deaths while committing fraud is homicide on the BNSF RR one would think.   Name: Conductor fan E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 30 December 2017 The Conductor nailed it!!!!!! Nothing more I can say!!! "What we do care about is everyone who is out in this damn cold weather and are sick and been beat down for the last 3 weeks because the devil from hell(EHH) make a mess out of everything. Ran good workers off, put people on the street and has now even from the grave created a man power shortage we haven't seen in years. the company is begging for transfers all over the system to fill in where there aren't enough people to work. We still have this abuse attendance policy that is going to make people show up sick as a dog and make everyone else sick too. Listen people, when you get sick go to the emergency room! Don't go to a med care. BOMBARD THE HELL OUT OF THE EMERGENCY ROOM. If you puking, coughing up green or what ever. Your co pay may be a little higher now thanks to our worthless unions, but the cost to the company is higher. Make them pay out the nose to cover all of us for putting us in this situation. The stress is weakening a lot of guys out here and are breaking them down. It frickin going to be -14 degrees for the 3rd shift guys and you can bet your ass they wont get the 10-15 minute breaks that were always required to get warm and out of dangerous cold temps. They will give them 15-20 minutes lunches and run them back out in the yards. If your in freezing wind chills make sure management knows when your needing a break. If they don't give it to you write down names, times, dates, and when you asked. If you get sick make sure you send all the info to the medical department and let your personal physician know. This isn't a joke. This company aint worth dying for and getting frost bite. EHH is warm an toasty in hell. WE ARENT!"   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 30 December 2017 https://m.soundtransit.org/sites/default/files/Motion%20M2015-106_0.pdf So Sounder was pumping millions to BNSF to run this circus ---BNSF whose design and supply would be to put in the most equipment possible with design to increase profits. Scope out the rest of the run and NO make ready done. The crossings on this run humped the crossings for low boy traps instead of going a few inches deeper for the increased height of track. BNSF can fork out$500 million for shoddy work. Where you at MATT ROSE---Train deaths ""really bother me"" you say. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 29 December 2017 Re: Retired Conductor You're right derailments are a national problem and all railroads use the same protocol, its human error not the company. This saves MONEY! The question remains, why do the wheels fall off? Can you answer? 

 Name: Roberto De Pino E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 29 December 2017 Cond. No, no, no let's don't talk about derailments that get us killed and falsely accused, LETS all discuss the weather and the companies not warming my bottle properly. All you guys need to listen to me and do stuff I'm afraid to do myself. Cond. If you'd been a man and stood up to begin with CSX wouldn't be treating you like crap. Instead you want to blame everyone else even the union. MOLE!!!!! 

 Name: Retired Conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 29 December 2017 I disagree,it doesn't matter that the derailment wasn't on CSX. The same thing could happen to you. If appears to be a combination of minimal qualification and distraction. Both are rampant on CSX. My friends still working tell me about being ordered over territory they haven't properly qualified on. Plenty of distractions too, long hours, looooong trains, job insecurity, dicipline.... Your first priority is keeping yourself safe, then worry about moving trains. 

 Name: Cond E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 29 December 2017 GET OVER IT! No one gives a rats ass about the derailment anymore. Go find a god damn Amtrak site to continue this stupid ass topic. Trains have been derailing since they started railroading. All this derailment did was bring out the foamers, the pines nut case, and the a holes that just want to debate out of their basements. WE DONT GIVE A SHIT ANYMORE! What we do care about is everyone who is out in this damn cold weather and are sick and been beat down for the last 3 weeks because the devil from hell(EHH) make a mess out of everything. Ran good workers off, put people on the street and has now even from the grave created a man power shortage we haven't seen in years. the company is begging for transfers all over the system to fill in where there aren't enough people to work. We still have this abuse attendance policy that is going to make people show up sick as a dog and make everyone else sick too. Listen people, when you get sick go to the emergency room! Don't go to a med care. BOMBARD THE HELL OUT OF THE EMERGENCY ROOM. If you puking, coughing up green or what ever. Your co pay may be a little higher now thanks to our worthless unions, but the cost to the company is higher. Make them pay out the nose to cover all of us for putting us in this situation. The stress is weakening a lot of guys out here and are breaking them down. It frickin going to be -14 degrees for the 3rd shift guys and you can bet your ass they wont get the 10-15 minute breaks that were always required to get warm and out of dangerous cold temps. They will give them 15-20 minutes lunches and run them back out in the yards. If your in freezing wind chills make sure management knows when your needing a break. If they don't give it to you write down names, times, dates, and when you asked. If you get sick make sure you send all the info to the medical department and let your personal physician know. This isn't a joke. This company aint worth dying for and getting frost bite. EHH is warm an toasty in hell. WE ARENT! 

 Name: Dobie Gillis E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 December 2017 http://wgno.com/2017/12/29/nigerian-prince-email-scammer-arrested-in-slidell/ FRAs and railroads names are changed to protect the innocent. 

 Name: Dobie Gillis E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 December 2017 http://csx-sucks.com/SiteDist.pdf So if it takes 162 feet of SEE for each 10 mph of train speed all plotted out nice and pretty how many feet of SEE does a 80 mph train need to slow 63.5%? 

 Name: Roberto De Pino E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 29 December 2017 See conductor wait til I get my gloves an I take You job for $5 an hour. I from the CSX De Mexico railroad. You go find job at McDonalds flipping burgers OK?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 29 December 2017 Re: conductor/mole Sorry there is nothing of interest in my post to you about corporate running cars off the tracks, putting train crews, responders and general public in danger, while at the same time blaming the crew. How about just a simple question from you? Let me help you. In most (train wrecks) you know when the cars fly everywhere, why do the wheels and carriages fall off? Is this some accident or by design by railroads?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 29 December 2017 This company only cares about the short term shareholders. I've worked in the cold all week and now I'm sick as a dog. I refuse to mark off and gets more points and frankly I don't give a shit if I go in and fuck something up. This place sucks the life out of you and I've got nothing else to give. Not sure why we don't get sick days. If anyone deserves a sick day, it's a railroader.   Name: abused E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 29 December 2017 Any one else!!!! Are the engineer xbd cut to dangerous level at you terminals. They got the board so short out of Avon yard its going to get someone hurt. Everyone is run into the ground until they can get to their day off. Hopefully everyone will get 6 starts before their off days so they can go into extra days off. This is the worst we have seen it in years. The weather is starting to suck and its not just cold its starting to snow. The trains will come to a stand still and the customers wont be serviced because there wont be anyone to fill the jobs and vacancies. What the hell is wrong with this company!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 29 December 2017 What is PYC? Drailment, Drailments, Drailing, Drails. Are these real words?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 29 December 2017 Sorry I forgot what I posted under. According to posts: Drailments can be caused when going into emergency but not always. Feathering can prevent Drailing but that's not dumping the air is it? Drailing can be prevented by dumping the air in the last car first. If you don't go into emergency you get blamed in court for not doing everything to prevent an accident. Human error is usually the cause of a Drailment. When public transportation Drails the FRA wants the public to pay for PYC. What's missing? Railroads(proper) are not mentioned as causing a Drailment. In most Derailments the wheels have came off, carriages came off and knuckles are broken off.   Name: NA E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 30+ years Posted: 29 December 2017 RRJim/Hogger Just like "me" having no idea what feathering brakes is, the term shoo fly apparently wasn't known or used everywhere either. The lesson here? Don't assume someone is stupid or doesn't know what they are talking about because a term was not readily used everywhere. As for our Pines, not buying he is our original pines who started posting on here over 14 years ago or longer. If he was involved in drivers ed simulators and his buddy was involved with locos then he should have known that the death of his wife after being hit by a train was her own fault and he wouldn't have spent the last 12 years crying over it. But then he has stepped away from it and his rant and raving about gate crossing malfunctions. Maybe it is his son. Does anyone know if the old man got out of prision and is clear of his jury tampering charges? Still checking on Willard yard closing. Not hearing anything from the upper management in the yard. Keeping quiet for some reason. Rumor at the engine house is they are calling guys back but no one is answering the phones. Some have already taken jobs at Amtrak and other shortlines. We are short as hell on power and some of the rent-a-wrecks are showing up.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 29 December 2017 Retired Hogger Shoefly must be a regional railroad term. I started railroading in Ohio when a lot of us transferred to Virginia from Ohio & Michigan in the late '70s & early '80s some of the terms we used up north didn't mean anything to the guys down here. All I knew that as was a temporary siding. The line I ran that rarely ever happened seeing it was mostly one side a river the other side a mountain.   Name: Retired Hogger E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 29 December 2017 RRJim, Where I came from a shoefly was a temporary track laid to get around a derailment or some kind of long term track work or bridge work. She was correct in the term but not how it is used, she came off as an IDIOT and can't believe she has the job she has...   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 29 December 2017 APE 20-30 There were a lot of so-called experts after the derailment. One that made me shake my head was a woman who was a former head of the DOT. She was one of the first interviewed on the news the day it happened. She was talking about railroad operations and made mention of trains doing a "shoo-fly"? Never heard that expression. Neither had others I called which between the 5 of us had nearly 200 years of railroad experience. She used that term for taking the siding. Couple hours later they were finally interviewing a former FRA inspector & a retired railroad inspector. Which quiet a bit of those interviews was educating the news people on correct railroad terminology.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 December 2017 Jake brake is about the same as counter steam brakes on steam locos I would think. My buddies old man made a steam engine land ready and it was in the parade every year. That train whistle had to be 400 db. Then a diesel engine is a diesel engine and brakes don't know people from coal so why would passenger brakes be different? http://www.railsimulations.com/locosim.html I used to repair drivers ed simulators 35 years or so ago. Reel to reel played a road trip with checks on the cars (drivers seat part) for over steering, speed, brakes, turn-signals, etc..Train simulator should be 1/2 price. How much simulation training did this group get?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 28 December 2017 Re: Other I don't know all the answers on Harrison or investments. I can tell you that stocks tank when really bad news is revealed to the public. Railroads and government can certainly handle bad news but I fear they don't understand the costs.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 28 December 2017 RRJim People at headquarters use to go down the halls laughing "how do you stop a train" someone else would hollow back "The wheels fall off". Everyone knows you can't stop a train quickly with the breaking system in use. I Dont think I'm going to get into details just now. First check how the wheels are held on and post back. Blaming a crewman in court for not going into emergency is the railroads way of giving some divorce attorney a way to blaim an accident on human error. Protocol !!!!!! The train crew.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 28 December 2017 according to the Tacoma? TV station they interviewed a former BNSF engineer, now a "safety expert" working for a law firm, who said as many as 6 people in cab, at night, taking turns at the throttle, doing qualification runs because they mostly couldn't get any track time during the day, so it would be difficult to realize from dark scenery that they were entering a speed restriction, and other sources suggest a small sign down the road for speed was not very visible. Wonder what the bulletins and timetables said? AND, Mr. Pines, how does a locomotive "jake brake"? Dynamic I understand, but jake brake is for truck systems.   Name: XRF E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 28 December 2017 Engineers If you go into emergency or you apply it yourself do not forget to hit the toggle switch and dump it from the rear. The Erad is set up to catch that. On the great lakes division they had a Division manager who was ape shit crazy about that and wanted every engineer busted for not doing it. He didn't care what is was caused by. If the train dumped while opening an angle cock he wanted it done. I know. I had to counsel a few guys on it. If your going to hit a car make sure you cover that as well. Just do everything by the book and take all measures possible to show in court that you did. Nothing else they can do to you.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 December 2017 One other concern in the Washington derailment. PTC was in place but not operational. Why not wait till it was operational? That was baffling.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 December 2017 Legal & Corporate There is no rule in certain situations on going into emergency. One of them is grade crossing accidents. It's a decision the locomotive engineer must make within seconds. My first responsibility is to the train. What if I'm carrying HAZMAT's? In every grade crossing accident after doing my best to make the train safe I put the train into emergency before impact. Not because it was going to help stop the train nothing was going to stop it, I did it for the frigging lawyers who would try to use it stating that it wasn't done. Like I said most of these situations it's the LE's call. I'm talking freight not passenger. Brakes on AMTRAK are totally different. Almost like automobile brakes they apply & release simultaneously. I've read where if the LE would of applied them 1/4 mile before the curve he would of gotten the speed down. That's more about knowing the territory. Seeing this was the first revenue run the question is how qualified was the LE on the territory? Second all AMTRAK & commuter line accidents the past couple of years it was an "engineer only" in the cab of the locomotive. Congress allowed it to cut costs. Engineer only is allowed on AMTRAK runs less than 6 hours. There's the "what if's?". What if an assistant LE was also in the cab?   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 December 2017 LE 20-30 You know what it is to "feather the brakes". It was common practice years ago. It's applying the independent but not holding it steady "continuously applying it then knocking it off scaling back" another term was "fanning the brakes". Used it when working in the yard to keep speed in check, creeping up to a signal, when knocking off the dynamics mostly on MTY's creeping up to a signal stopping on the mainline if you didn't need air, on a grade applying just enough independent to stop wheel slipping etc.... Hard to do now a days with GPS & ERAD. I got busted a few times by the ERAD for doing it for wheel slipping making a grade while it was raining. RFE called told me he had an ERAD report I had my independent on while moving, I told him "why the hell would I do that?". lol. He knew what I was doing seeing he was old school and let it slide. Yes, Wide bodies don't knock off like the old GP-38M, GP-40 & 40-2's etc... a lot slower but it can still be used in some situations. One doesn't want to hold the independent steady at any lbs seeing it could cause flat spots on the locomotive.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 December 2017 https://www.ble-t.org/pr/news/newsflash.asp?id=6051 Why don't this guy just say the BLE brass are pussy spineless jellyfishes?   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 December 2017 http://mynorthwest.com/855029/wsdot-train-derailment-speed-limits/? ...It also states that the bypass meets all Federal Railroad Administration requirements... Where can these it took a special kind of stupid or BOUGHT to come up with requirements be found? Let's see a cracker jack box size sign two miles before which is way too early or the train driver could Jake brake once in awhile. Then a cracker jack sign where it is too late. Aerial view shows at least three big fancy DEAD signal houses passed in two miles when one fiber which was already there can carry tons of info forever. Then the ONE mile marker 18 sits twice as high as P-30 sign at Google map 47.090404,-122.6372638. Driving down I-44 today mile markers every .2 miles so there are 9 of those missing for a time table plus three to five regulation size speed limit signs. But then BNSF I 5 (SO BD) Mile Marker LKVW-NISQUALLY is 10.15 which is 7.85 miles not two miles. The time table must be in the cracker jack box.   Name: Other E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 27 December 2017 Me too I have a question for you if you really are in the corp. office and in the know. What was the final deal with the package they gave EHH for his term. In the earlier negotiations they he wanted 32 million a year for 4 years but he had to serve a full 1 year term in order to fulfill the agreement. Obviously he didn't so what happens to the money and the deal? Does it go back into the company or is it going into Foote's pocket? There is no way in hell you or anyone can tell me that csx didn't have a back up plan for the money in place when they made the deal with him. They all knew he was sick as hell and had one leg in the grave. No way he was going to make it full term. CSX may be evil but they aren't idiots when it comes to keeping their money. That's a lot of dough. I got investments outside of this company because I have never counted on having this job until I could retire. My investors are watching it around the clock. they have the ability to pry into the business of Mantle ridge and their activities but we don't out here in the field. I read csx couldn't come up with what EHH demanded so they got backing from other sources beside the mantle ridge deal. If I got to start putting my money else where to guarantee that I have a decent life when I retire then tell me now.   Name: Corporate E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 27 December 2017 Legal You are absolutely correct in your analisysy of what happens to a train crew in court who testifies "we didn't go into emergency". This is a protocol used by all railroads to blame the train crew. All accidents have protocol. All investigators are then working off the same page. I can tell you in most accidents what the news will report. It was human error!!!!!! Problem is, as Legal why don't you know all this to represent the crews. I have volunteered before. It's just like your response, you want to tell me how the court works instead of what do I need to know to help the train crews.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 December 2017 Ok. I have listened to all this bitching long enough. Yes the railroad is fucked.Hurray Hunter is dead. I get it. We need to make this our railroad. Foote is gonna be a short timer. Everybody do their part to get us better working conditions at their respective location. The unions are a joke and so are company officals. I know general chairman and band 6 and 7 on both sides. They are frigging tards. We just need to last one more day than them.   Name: Me Too E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 27 December 2017 Real Roader You mention this site needs someone from upper management to come on here so you guys can figure out what your future is. I've been trying to do that for more than 20 years and all I ever get is bad responses. If you can't comprehend small things how do I begin to explain complicated matters?the only ones interested in my posts are railroads and FRA. They keep all my posts. So what do you want to know and I'll try to answer. Remember some lager areas I can't talk about just now. Now watch the posts and see if I get legitimate questions.   Name: Legal E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 27 December 2017 Me Let me give you a little piece of advice. If you know for a fact that you are going to hit a vehicle and the occupants are not able to get out before you do, set the emergency brakes. I can tell you without any uncertainty that if you kill anyone in the vehicle and you end up having to go to court for the collision, you will be asked if you did everything possible to stop the train. If you state to the lawyer of the family what you posted on here don't be surprised if you end up with a manslaughter charge in civil court. You better have a real good reason why you didn't do everything possible to prevent the loss of life. If you think for one moment the company will stand behind you and admit they told you not to set the emergency brakes in these situations your are sadly mistaken. Yes, you could say you felt it was too late and it wasn't necessary but the family may feel totally different about your decision.   Name: ? E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 27 December 2017 RRJim Would you like to take this one? You have been around long enough to know what the term feathering the brakes are. "Me" apparently is a pup or never was taught what feathering brakes are. I use it all the time when using smaller yard locos and not using air. Was taught by one of the best in the yard. Unfortunately the newer locos load so stinking slow and the independent brakes bleed off even slower so it makes it hard to feather a wide body. Nearly impossible. Go for it JIM!   Name: Monitor E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 27 December 2017 All Crafts Rip Willard was 100% correct when he suggested that everyone stop bickering about issues that are not relevant to what is happening in the industry right now. As bad as the Amtrak situation was, it is not an issue for the freight train service and what is happening in CSX at this moment. Let the FRA and Feds deal with their issues. With new tax laws in the next year, a new CEO and a change in the entire operations in progress there is going to be serious back lash for many in the field. Back wages are supposed to be paid soon and engineers will be getting a bonus. No matter how large or small everyone needs to be smart and hang on to every dime they get until the smoke settles down from this crazy fiasco. There is NO CERTAINTY who will be left standing and where they will be when the dust settles. Be wise. Make good choices. Plan for the possibility of having to relocate your families. Never assume anything. Do not forget that your medical coverage has changed. It will cost you a lot more for medical care now and a sick family member at this time of year could hurt your dearly. If you learn anything that is helpful do not hesitate to post it on this site. Do not let the company moles or lonely basement foamers discourage you. Everyone needs to have each others back. 2018 is probably going to be one of the hardest years for any one with less than 10 years. Hang tough and hang tight! Be safe and take your time. Know one is any good to their family if they go home hurt or sick. God bless and pray for a better 2018!   Name: Me E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 December 2017 Real railroader,Pines,and whoever else, (there's too many of you nut jobs to keep up with).... We are not warned to not use emergency . That and the idea that it's going to cause some catastrophic event is idiotic. Not saying in isolated incidents there hasn't been a derailment,usually on the rear of the train, but if I had to guess, one in 3000 ? If I had to guess there's probably a 100 or more trains go in emergency every day in this country and nothing happens. Rrailroader your give away was feather the brakes as needed. There's no such thing foamer.... If and when we apply an "emergency" application it typically will result in a automatic download to network ops where someone will review and decide if it needs to be investigated further. This used to be done by roadforeman before HH fired them and all were investigated. Basically if it was a UDE ,youll know what that is if you work out here, then nothing happens. But if the engineer was letting the train get ahead of him or her, and they place the train in emergency, usually it means they screwed up. (Along with the cod too btw ). So that being said some are hesitant to use emergency because they don't want to be reprimanded . And in the vast majority of cases it won't keep from hitting anything to use it because it's too late to stop so why bother and then the cod gone have inspect the entire train too ,unless you want to eat or take a nap,wait, did I say that...oops   Name: real Rroader E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 27 December 2017 real rroader/conductor Your a smart ass. And as for the other rroader poster if you were a real engineer or conductor you would know what the hell your supposed to do to keep the cars from piling up on the engines. Did no one teach you how to bleed the engine brakes off(bail off) and feather them as needed to bring the train down to a safe stop. Think before you post answers to the stupid idiot pines questions. There wasn't a damn thing that I posted that wasn't the truth and is embarrassing as hell to the company. Sure their lawyers and public relations department is loving that one. Ask any signal maintainer or M&W crew if it isn't true. There are two many want-a-be foamers on here and company moles anymore. I think Im going to send a request to the webmaster and ask him to start fronting them out. Its been done in the past before. Everyone who works for the company knows what's the truth and what isn't. We have bigger problems. Until we can get someone in upper management to come on board with the crews no one is really going to know what the new CEO is going to do or has planned. You cant get any answers from the Union reps. No one is talking. Just gossip and rumors. If he closes more yards, its obvious he is following the precision plan and going to unload as much as he can and as many people as he can. Don't believe he would start hiring if he's reducing yards. What the hell do you need people for if you shutting down the terminals. No one knows but upper management what he has in store and they aren't talking. Just remember if you come on here and post anything good or half way truthful the company moles are going to jump all over it. Don't let them distract you. We need all the info about our futures as we can get!   Name: Real Rroader E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 December 2017 I use to sit in a lawn chair in Waycross and pretend I was a real rail roader. On this site all I have to do is post that I'm a real railroader and everybody believes me. Oh! I Have to curse Pines out a little too. Love this site full of idiots.   Name: Loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 December 2017 To Rip Willard Good safety post Rip. Stop listening to Pines and get on with the gossip like some old woman! Do your job and don't worry about everybody else's business. Maybe this will help you.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years Posted: 27 December 2017 Higher/Idiot You and people like you are the reason for management to get rid of people. You get rid of the bulk of the work force. You get rid of some good people in the process but you also get rid of mindless people like yourself. THEN you hire people who are qualified and don't cause trouble. This costs money but eventually you get rid of most idiots. Many companies do the same thing it's just a cost of doing business. Have you ever really looked at yourself and what your contributions are? Do the company a favor and quit while you still know everything!   Name: RRoader E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 27 December 2017 To answer your question Yes we are all warned not to go into emergency stop cause locking the wheels on all cars causes the cars to pile up against the engine and jump the track. Better than having cars running down the street with hazmat in them.   Name: hogger E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 December 2017 Rip Willard Your absolutely right. Everyone needs to ignore this pine loser and move on. Just ignore him. From what I have seen he is nothing but a shit stirring poser who needs attention on this site and has been here for years doing it. I haven't heard anything about the new King of the hill closing any yards. If he does where are these people going to go and why would he have to hire. If they cant move across the system because of seniority they need jobs created for them somewhere even if they have to go to the bottom of the barrel. This Foote character has already stated to the press he is going to continue following in the foot steps of that crazy crack pot. He might have died but his evil soul is still lingering in the shadows. No one has seen a back pay check yet. they have 4 days to stick to their promises that they put out in writing on system notices.   Name: Fact E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years Posted: 27 December 2017 Ask Trainmaster David Benson about his late night pillow fights wth his male roommate. Seriously ..!!!!   Name: Rip Willard E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 27 December 2017 Instead of arguing about dumb shit constantly how about we try to keep each other up to date on what's going on across the system. Word is Willard is closing in just a few weeks and they've already started moving ice and pop machines out. Cleveland rumor is they're going to hire after first of year if our new CEO Foote gives it the okay? Can any one confirm any of this and get off this Amtrak bullshit that none of us can employees care about   Name: Jj E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 December 2017 By the time You see the sign your already speeding. Hence you need to know your track   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 27 December 2017 So where do they kind you don't need that sign equipment we know our shit clowns Name: real RRoader --a.k.a L&N JBL and every 8 out of 10 entries here. So is it screw them clowns I'm a ridin' this bronco. Safety chute ---Well I know my shit who needs it---roll bar hell I know my shit who needs a roll bar? You sound as stupid here as when you go off on trucks. R2-1 70-MPH SPEED LIMIT H.I.P. Signs - 24x30 Price:$49.95 Add Weather & Graffiti Protection (POF)--Only $21.95!$700 bucks and no crash ---but you know your shit. Your a joke!!! 

 Name: real RRoader E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 27 December 2017 pines No one knows why you even come on here now. Your wife has been dead for so long you think you would have moved on by now. Jesus Christ. First it was years of boo hoo hoo over your wife's death because she couldn't beat a train and now you got some new obsession with trying to tell all of us what we have known for 30 years. We all know what happens our here and we all know what we are supposed to do to do the job right. Its the stupid ignorant morons who don't pay attention during their training and are just lazy worthless train riders who get in trouble and usually get fired or chastised so bad they eventually get it right. Let me explain this to you. We know about the damn signs that aren't right or aren't there. Get the latest edition of the FRA law book and read up on where signs are mandatory and where they are not. Second we all know the mile marker signs our here aren't accurate. We got a small handful of markers used for measuring our speed in our timetables where they actually went out and made sure they were a mile apart. We got whistle post sign posted were there aren't any roads for them and we got signs that don't even have the "W" on them because they are faded off and no one gives a shit about painting them back. We got timetables that have the wrong street names and we get EC1s to protect crossings that don't even have gates. We got CP points with designated miles on them that aren't even near where the accurate location is. Some CPs are up to 1.5 miles from where the true mile post really is. So see Mr. Pines, we are all well aware of the stupid inept crap that this company does but we learn and KNOW OUR DAMN TERRITORY! Because that's what we are expected to do. we deal with their stupid crap and information everyday. We don't need a damn sign to tell us where to slow down or speed up because we learn our territories. If someone doesn't know where a slow order or permanent speed starts its because they didn't ask or their trainer was an idiot who didn't care one way or the other. But I can tell you now that most guys our here take pride in their training and most crews have at least one person in the seat with them that wants their asses protected just as well. So get off the sign thing and move on. We been dealing with sign and marker bullshit for 30 years. It ain't ever going to change. They don't care and frankly we don't either. We know our shit and we know what to do. Once in awhile you just get an idiot out there. Now move on and find something better to rant and rave about. CREWS! Don't forget the fra law that your engine is supposed to be 60 degrees at 6 inches above the center of each seat. Its getting cold as hell out and don't be taking the motor if the heat isn't by FRA standard. We all know how shitty those local motors can be and how bad the seals are on the older ones. No one should be froze out this winter. CSX saved a shit load of money with the old man dying out. Let them use some of that money they already planned in their budget to pay the old man. They can fix the crap we are using. No backing down on this one! 

 Name: Mr.Ed E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 27 December 2017 Cornductor Ihe company doesn't pay our bills. You need to raise the bar. Your boys would love this job? I work out here so my kids can better theirselves. This place is fine for me not my kids. I would hope anyone with any expectations for their kids would feel the same. You must be a real company suck ass 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 December 2017 Well Foamers and pines sez"""We don't need signs"""That has to be the Guinness world record dumbest f--k statement ever.You must be one of those baboons way down in the pocket by the railroads nut-sack huh? Look at the hop scotch mile markers--crossing numbers---track owners on this 14 mile POS line. Barksdale a.ka.a 10 16 2017 TO: 0017.34 FROM:0007.59 DuPont Ave How many trains per week? 4 47.090404,-122.6372638 Mile marker 18 Then the stupid f--ks leave a humped crossing to catch trucks for probably $500,000.   Name: Foamers and pines E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 26 December 2017 Dumbasses. We know where our speeds start and stop by reading our time table and learning our territory. We don't need signs because that just allows people to pay less attention than they should. There are alot of things we need to know out there, and knowing where you are is imperative. Putting up signs let's lazy people pretend they know their territory. You know nothing about the railroad that you fantasize about, so please keep your 4th grader, Thomas the tank engine guesses to yourself, and for god sakes, stop talking about amtrack on a csx site. It makes you look dumber than you already are.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 December 2017 So Loco to be speeding one has to know their speeding there railroad whore. The question would be how many morons on a train have to pass a NO-Sign zone before they realize little baboons in the railroads pocket have a perfect death trap and say "where the f--k are the speed signs? Say 6 signs at 100 bucks would be$___.__? Now go out on the free-way and look what real drivers use. 2.5 feet by 3 feet minimum for 70 mph traffic per MUTCD. http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=166546&start=45 For a better view of sign and damage starting 10 feet away about 1/2 way down. Too late sign two. R2-1 70-MPH SPEED LIMIT H.I.P. Signs - 24x30 Price: $49.95 Add Weather & Graffiti Protection (POF)--Only$21.95! 

 Name: Mr.Ed E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year Posted: 26 December 2017 Car repair Suck my donkey. 

 Name: Well? E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 December 2017 Where's my back pay? 

 Name: Loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 25 December 2017 Pine turd Go lay down. No one said anything about setting the brakes. What was said was engineer was speeding. Fact. No more to be said. Taking the curve at 80 without trying to take action could have been just as bad. For your info we set full service all the time with no problems at speeds up to 50. still doesn't matter. He was speeding! What part of that don't you get. If he didn't know his territory he shouldn't have been out there. Until the engineer makes a statement to press know one knows for sure where his head was so just shut the fuck up. 

 Name: Pines E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 25 December 2017 Conductor This is a SAFETY site and you guys post anything but safety because you're cowards! Answer the freaking question mole. Does CSX warn train crews not to go into emergency which can cause a Drailment? You won't say that because it's criminal isn't it? You know some of you guys won't post on poor safety as the site indicates because you're a MOLE misleading readers. Hiding behind (aka) conductor doesn't change the fact you are a murder. THATS what happened on Amtrak inst it? Funny how a non-railroader as myself knows more about railroads than all you moles! 

 Name: Loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 25 December 2017 Pine turd Go lay down. No one said anything about setting the brakes. What was said was engineer was speeding. Fact. No more to be said. Taking the curve at 80 without trying to take action could have been just as bad. For your info we set full service all the time with no problems at speeds up to 50. still doesn't matter. He was speeding! What part of that don't you get. If he didn't know his territory he shouldn't have been out there. Until the engineer makes a statement to press know one knows for sure where his head was so just shut the fuck up. 

 Name: Mr.Ex E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year Posted: 24 December 2017 A lot of crews laid up in hotels. You guys know you have to lay off if you want to be home. No matter what day of the year it is. You must be a special kind of stupid if you work on Christmas for straight time and sit in a hotel for free. 

 Name: Pines E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 30+ years Posted: 24 December 2017 Loco You Idiot same thing happens to a CSX freighter as Amtrak and you know that. About 6 seconds before wreck the engineer hit the brakes at 80 mph the cars start to fold causing the wheels to fall off, stopping the train. Instead of the cars hitting the ditch and ballast to stop it fell off a bridge. Engineers and conductors are warned about hitting the brakes and Drailing. You are purposely misleading readers making you a corporate MOLE. Tell me train crews are not warned about going into emergency causing a Drailment or shut your lying pie hole. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 December 2017 http://www.king5.com/article/news/local/live-blog-amtrak-train-derailment-on-i-5-near-dupont/281-500363930 Just a little way down on right. Looks like the T-30 P-30 --I think T is for Talgo whatever that means and P is passenger is like 10 feet from where the curve wall gets scrunched from dragging train parts. Kinda like putting a bridge out sign 10 feet from the plunge with moving traffic. http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=166546&start=45 For a better view of sign and damage starting 10 feet away about 1/2 way down. 

 Name: Amtrack and pines E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 24 December 2017 Who gives a fuck about amtrack? Pretty sure this site is called csx sucks, not pines crybaby bullshit site about nothing. I think pines needs to sit on the tracks and look at a train up close. 

 Name: Retired Conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 24 December 2017 Looks like Amtrak doesn't care about really qualifying any more than CSX. Up to 6 engineers on the engine at night and conductors in the 2nd unit at night I mean what could happen? http://www.kiro7.com/news/south-sound-news/railroad-investigator-says-its-wrong-to-point-a-finger-at-train-engineer/668115816 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 December 2017 https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/amtrak-crews-express-concerns-about-training-on-new-route-where-train-derailed/ ...As the crew traveled south along the bypass route on Monday at close to 80 mph, they would have passed a speed limit sign about 2 miles before the curve. That sign, smaller than a speed-limit sign that drivers would see alongside a freeway, sits in an open area along the track, tilted at a 45-degree angle... Found it. 5708 Wilmington Dr Dupont washington. Google map location 47.0913772,-122.633304 by 3rd white rail car. Says T-30 P-30. About as big as a do not remove tag on a mattress. Further proof that railroad safety is ran by little baboons deep in the railroads pocket that need to be set free. 

 Name: loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 23 December 2017 Pines imposter So now you have given up your cry baby activation failures after years of coming on here and blaming your dead wife's pitiful ending on everyone else. So your new obsession is what now? L&N and what else? Please tell all of us so we know what your will be ranting about for the next 10 years. THE GUY WAS SPEEDING! What part of that don't you get. No one knows why he was doing it but him. If he knows his damn territory and knows his track tables then he just lost it, wasn't paying attention or what ever. The fact is he was speeding and all the other crap you spout off wont make a damn difference. So move on to something else. What point are you trying to make. The damn guy was speeding! 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 December 2017 Well: APE, for Less than 1 year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv8PEG0hcbQ According to this person it was Engine---passenger cars---2nd engine on back pushing---Guess this configuration was used for the good accordion effect.Then why would a second engine be needed for a few passenger cars. Apparently there is a phone app for Amtrak speed. They were saying 82 mph which would be speeding to start with right so the NTSB fixed that with data recorder of 78 mph. But then train crews can't use the app because they can't carry phones. The I-5 overpass Crossing 085839A Google map 47.0821204,-122.6755991 off of FRA inventory. Same graffiti as news coverage on overpass. BNSF took over track in January. 0 trains and speed limit of 10 mph. The 10 mph is the only thing they could go by to me. So some Federal reporting violations there. If you follow the tracks On Google map there is another big curve on the other side of I-5 then another where these tracks join a double track which could be switched. So the whole area would be SLOW. Wonder what the data recorders on the trial runs show??? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 23 December 2017 Pines Come on man get off the egg nog you're smarter than this! How fast was Amtrak going? You're taking Amtraks word for it. Did Amtrak Drail before the 30mph curve? How did engine 1 Drail skip engine 2 then Drail cars? You know the answer! How do you stop a train? It's just this time they tried to stop on an overpass. PTC: you gonna try and tell me PTC wasn't installed which would have slowed the train or did the TPC lock the train down causing a Drail? Watch all these accidents they are a way to sale TPC under the guise of Drailing public transportation paid for by the people. TPC is a fore runner eliminating one guy in the engine. TPC is a forrunner to high speed remote freight trains. Who owns the track? Who is going to pay for suits and why? Once again who caused the Drail? Human error not the railroad. Who is the media getting their info from? Their own investigation? Amtrak? Local yocall. Or maybe the Associated Press who are on railroads pocket? Look at most articles which state the Associated Press contributed. Distraction????? Geesish you're going 80 mph into a 30 mph curve and you're going to be distracted???? Who got the Black Box and video off the train? Are you going to try and tell us a track is going to take you from 80 mph to 30 mph without warnings? You don't need a slow down sign this is why you have a Signal System!!!! The engineer would have had to blow the restrictive signal with Dispatcach watching for this to happen! I would tell my FRA Director this but he'd just fire me. 

 Name: Nip it E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 23 December 2017 So, you shareholders are now talking about suing the board due to HH and his medical condition? LOL! Everyone knew about the shape he was in, and YOU still voted him in. Why?… Because you're greedy assholes who thought this was your big opportunity to cash in on Hunter's "magic", and feed the Unions a big shit sandwich in the process. Well, I love to be the bearer of bad news, and it looks to me like you're going to be taking a bite out of the shit sandwich too. ( Maybe that 14% business tax cut will offset the taste in your mouth) Pay particular attention to the part where the lawyers talk about the difficulty you will face in your endeavors. Just remember 3 VERY important things, asswipes… 1) 99.9% of you are NOT smarter than the corporate lawyers. 2) You DO NOT have enough money, or the balls, to go into a long term legal battle with the Chicken Shit Express. And the MOST important thing of all… 3) Don't leave home without plenty of mouthwash. Merry Christmas! https://www.reuters.com/article/us-csx-stocks/csx-stock-stabilizes-after-ceo-death-investors-seek-turnaround-clarity-idUSKBN1EC1H7 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 December 2017 http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/articles/2017/12/22/derailed-train-new-route-distraction-12-22-17 So Amtrak let's see if you can do the math for a three year old. If Amtrak Joe running the train which would be ONE was training Amtrak Jack which would be ONE ---How many would be in the cab of the Amtrak? The formula is 1 + 1 =? You sleep with L@N and his momma is why you care? Looking at his comments as JBL he's a raciest woman hater who gets made look stupid all over on many things. Name: Amtrak E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 22 December 2017 Pines You talk more crap and know nothing about how anything works. If 2 people would be in the lead loco this shit wouldn't happen. Been using one engineer in front a long time. Conductor working in cars. Your pot shot at L&N again just shows your petty immature nasty side as usual. For the love of God grow up. 

 Name: On to a better life E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 December 2017 Saw the writing on the wall when Eugene and Mr.Ed took over. I got out as things were beginning to go south (Good opportunity presented itself at the perfect time). I looked at the Mainframe a couple times a week until they locked me out. Pure madness how often things were changing on the GL. Would be interested to see it now. 

 Name: . E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 22 December 2017 Are we all marking off Christmas? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 22 December 2017 Such a stand up company CSX is. Forcing their employees to work Christmas Day. There’s a special place in hell for the people that make these decisions. 

 Name: jim E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 22 December 2017 fuck hunter harrison 

 Name: Amtrak E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 22 December 2017 Pines You talk more crap and know nothing about how anything works. If 2 people would be in the lead loco this shit wouldn't happen. Been using one engineer in front a long time. Conductor working in cars. Your pot shot at L&N again just shows your petty immature nasty side as usual. For the love of God grow up. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 22 December 2017 Dear Retired NS & Conrail, thank you for your blessings to us on CSX. May you have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year as well. We will need it. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 December 2017 So do trains have speed limit signs along the tracks? The <<< >>> signs around the curves? http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/articles/2017/12/22/derailed-train-new-route-distraction-12-22-17 I see the dirty Feds are trying to turn the Amtrak tragedy in Washington state as a way to get rid of two person crews PLUS downplay a big part of the lawsuit which will be the missing set of eyes as a "distraction". These two in the train cab playing chew the peg or what? Is this jury tampering "might of been" even legal on a open investigation? The UTU should be all over this with a class action lawsuit calling them worthless dis-tractors. Kinda reminds me of the L@N clown that hangs here. Just looking at Washington State Amtrak tragedy. Crossing 085839A Google map 47.0821204,-122.6755991 off of FRA inventory. Same graffiti as news coverage on overpass. Fra shows BNSF took over track in January. 0 trains and speed limit of 10 mph. The 10 mph is the only thing they could go by to me. The Google Street view of the curve from the next overpass shows a rotten mess five years ago. How much can a 30 mph flashing sign facing the train cost? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 December 2017 to conductor,30+ yrs,21 dec 2017, ref: mean spirited message posted 21 dec 2017 you ask why my message was mean spirited and posted on all boards.ol'eugene was a mean sob that screwed you csx folks over and cn also. i only spoke the truth. why is the funeral festivities info quiet? csx has you folks so job scared it is really sad.hopefully the new ceo will treat you folks better.you folks need ol'eugene's funeral info to line up and piss on his corpse "precision railroad style"with maximum volume and no wasted time in line.enough said here. 

 Name: Retired NS & Conrail E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 December 2017 Merry Christmas to all CSX employees. You have made it through a very tough time. I know the NS employees were worried when Ackman & EHH had their sites on our company. There are many railroaders in the U.S. and Canada who read this site and have felt your pain since EHH took over. Heres hoping 2018 and beyond is brighter for all of you. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 December 2017 DUH https://www.google.com/search?q=30+mph+flashing+sign&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS703US703&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=eAWuOXS0XUL-yM%253A%252CD2rAgfB5toKIEM%252C_&usg=__qdJb1svYwAwjU17OHTqBHfAHFio%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwir7vSqsZzYAhVC04MKHQ57Cb0Q9QEIRDAF#imgrc=eAWuOXS0XUL-yM: 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 21 December 2017 I don't want to get anyone fired up but I was wondering if other departments are working Christmas holidays, VP of mechanical sent out e mail all mechanical operations will work through the holiday to better serve our customers. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 21 December 2017 1st thought of mine is a question: why bombard each & every forum\section of this site with the same mean spirited message? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 December 2017 ol' eugene now burning in hell and sucking the devil's precision rail and getting devil's old rail up his ass. ol' eugene getting his karma now. you guys didn't lose anything at all. hopefully the new ceo will be better and not run over top of you. i notice no public notice of his funeral or burial/cremation festivities. is csx/harrison family afraid someone will steal his corpse and abuse it/mutilate it or piss on it like the george pullman family back in 1898 when the sob george pullman died?george pullman was the hunter harrison of the 1890's to his railcar employees and did them shitty. his casket and vault was put in a wire cage and covered with much concrete to prevent digging up by the pissed of people he done wrong.any thoughts here? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 December 2017 Medicine man Smuggling drugs by rail is a small adventure. Now that you're on track see how easy it is to ship a nuclear war head to any sinding in the U.S. or Canada undetected. America is in trouble and the only way to stop it unfortunately is to shut down our boarders which doesn't fit the One World Order scheme. Make America Great Again! If you are corporate you know you can ship anything, anywhere by telephone. 

 Name: numbutt E-mail: duh duh dot duh Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 December 2017 #1...Why dose CSX lie? #2...Why dose CSX cheat? #3...Why does CSX treat the employees like dog turds? #4...Why does CSX spike a switch on a spur that hasn't been used in 45 years? #5...Why does CSX not put Kim Bongiaovani in as President? Pinenuts 111 sticks.. The best CSX suck hole ever ! 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 December 2017 XLC I worked the road for 34 years before taking a yard assignment on a pusher the last couple years before retiring. Most of guys I knew that made the yard a career hated overtime. They started working the yard back in the '70s & '80s when you had early quits. Those are gone. I figured if I had to stay at least 7 1/2 hours might as well stay for as much as you can get. Plus having 2 days off a week was a new experience. Sorry to hear they don't double over anymore. But, that was a trick TM's did to not have to report OT to division HQ & JAX. If I didn't work over on a regular assignment they would use us on a temporary assignment job number. Seemed every time they said "no OT" before we went to work it happened. Go figure. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 December 2017 I worked in Walbridge Yard in Ohio on the ground back in the '70s. I was stuck on the RR trapped snowed in for 3+ days at the Arrival Yard during the Blizzard of '78 till the National Guard dug us out. We had to ration food for 9 people going into the 2nd day seeing it didn't look like it would ever end. All that was left was saltine crackers, lucky pipes didn't freeze for water, and plenty of coffee. I know about the cold. Swept many of switches when I was furloughed during the winter to get a few days in. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 December 2017 It's 14% and will go to the hedge fund. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 December 2017 CSX gets a 16% tax cut. Will they Hire? Spend it on R&D? Give better raises? 

 Name: MedicineMan E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 21 December 2017 Answer these 10 questions: 1. What CSX trains are smuggling drugs? 2. Where do the trains make the transfers of drugs. 3. What are the train cars / trailers / containers used to smuggle drugs? 4. Who are the CSX drug dealers? 5. Who are the CSX drug users? 6. List the names of everyone you know who does drugs in the yards. 7. Are you are drug user/dealer? 8. What are the names of the Cartels who use CSX for drug transportation? 9. What are the names of the motor cycle gangs who distribute the drugs obtained from CSX trains. 10. What is your name, address, and phone number so that we can contact you if needed. Please help us prevent the spread of drugs by CSX criminal employees. Save a life. Thank you. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 20 December 2017 Maybe since Foote has a background in sales and marketing he will bring back the market share we lost. He should also go off Warren Buffets playbook and open some humps back up and hire like all other class 1 railroads. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 December 2017 If you like over time that's ok. You must work down south where it's warm. Try coming to buffalo and being forced to work 12 hour days when it's 20° out side wind blowing at 20mph and it's snowing. On top of that sweeping switches of snow, walking in knee deep snow with those heavy anti slip boots. Then the fuck you with the 20 minute lunches. So basically your out in the cold for about 11 hours. Another classy move is when they ask you " do you want OT"and you say no and then they force you to stay anyways.i like to see some of these buffalo Yardmaster and trainmaster work the ground for a week and see how it is getting fucked. 

 Name: XLC E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 20 December 2017 RRjim Not getting a new ticket and 4hr claim any longer, haven't for a few years now. Just forcing jobs to work over on original ticket. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 20 December 2017 Our sales rep told me CSX has lost hundreds of millions in business, hard to get a handle on just how much volume walked away. I don't want to be complacent or anything, are we really sure old Eugene really assumed room temperature ? Is it verified ?....Even so, it might be worth while if someone went to check and at least poke him with a stick, we all know Ghouls, Vampires and werewolves have a nasty habit of coming back to life. Best wishes to all of you at CSX, the employees and customers have taken so much abuse from asshole Hunter and his circumcision railroading, his kicking the bucket was a great Christmas present, god bless us one and all.....ding dong the which is dead ! 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 December 2017 What's wrong with working 12 hour shifts? I liked overtime. Especially on a 5 day yard assignment. Terminal I worked in if they didn't have anyone on the extra board they would call to see if I wanted to work over. Hell Yeah, another time ticket 4 hours for 8 hours pay at punitive rate. They did that to show no OT. This happened 1-2 times a week. My regular 5 day pusher job it made quite a bit of OT. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 December 2017 They call extra jobs all the time off the extraboard in buffalo. They cut like 5 yard jobs here in the last few months. Then they call the extra at different times and job symbols. They do that cause I believe if they call a extra everyday for 5 days at the same time and job number they have to put it on as as a regular job . Problem in buffalo nobody wants to work the extraboard, it calls for 6 and we usually only have 2 people on it.they could solve that problem by force assigning Jr employees, but mangers here are lazy and don't want to push the issue with crew management. So what you get is managers bitching they can't fill the jobs and fuck crews everyday to work 12 hours in the cold and snow 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 20 December 2017 You would think but he makes sure the time is always different. He's got something coming. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 19 December 2017 Sounds like something the union should be addressing 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 December 2017 This dick in Louisville calls these jobs of the extraboard all damn week instead of putting them on regular. Precision scheduling railroading ain't so precision. 

 Name: numbutt E-mail: duh duh dot duh Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 December 2017 Pinenuts is wanted for RCO interception. Was nutsy in Washington? Yea, smoking pot. Come on man ! Who spiked Pine's nuts? 

 Name: E-mail: Www.enjoyyourretirementuoldpri Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 19 December 2017 Did anyone else read the article that Hunter contracted a illness the week before his death while doing one of his famous " You do it my way or you will be fired Hunter Camps" so I bet someone had a cold or something and the old prick caught the cold! My bet is he got a cold and turned into Pneumonia. The worst thing that can happen to someone who has a lung disease and on oxygen is getting pneumonia.i wonder if the person who gave it to Hunter infected him on purpose!!! If he did do it on purpose we should erect a statute of this manager sneazing on a statue of hunter (of course the statue would have his oxygen tank),and we make the day he died a csx holiday!!! 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 December 2017 Conductor 10-20 They were micro managing before I retired in 2010. Last 2 years I worked a pusher job that they used for switching etc... when there was no trains to shove. One afternoon we had to switch out a few tracks for a local. A TM came out screwing with the ground crew. I got off the locomotive went back to see what was happening. He was telling them how to switch. Seeing the conductor only had a little more than a year plus a conductor trainee he had them flustered. We had a job briefing it would take 1 1/2 hours or so to get it done. The TM's way it would of been 4-6 hours. After he left I told them let's do it his way. It'll never get finished. It didn't. Let them micro manage. Everyday we got to work it was no overtime. lol. I made OT just about everyday. If I would of known I could make 60+ hours in a 5 day week in the yard I would of left the road years ago. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 19 December 2017 I'll tell you how to protect a shove on tracks that are not coupled up.... Give him exactly what he wants. While you're doing it sit there and ask yourself why managers that don't have experience on the ground tell us to do things a specific way? Why can't they just say grab this cut of car and a switch list and go to work? When I take a shit, I know that I have to wipe my ass and I know how to do it. There are at least 6 ways to wipe your ass and they all work. I can go front to back, back to front, sitting down, standing up, with a combination of toilet paper and wet wipes, and last but not least my favorite, circular motion. We don't need managers to tell us a specific way to railroad when there are a lot of ways that all work. Why not let us pick what works for us and leave us alone? They like to micro manage us, so give them what they want and when it fails maybe their superiors will start to question them. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 19 December 2017 The superintendent in Louisville must be stupid. When needed he wants an rco job to drive to the north end of the bowl tracts to protect the shove. These tracks aren't coupled up. How do you protect a shove on a track that's not coupled up. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 December 2017 today's Wall Street Journal (MONDAY 12-18-017) has several articles related to EHH and his lack of a pre employment physical. Just FYI. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Yard Master, for N/A Posted: 18 December 2017 What happen with tm Raine and clerk Sue? Where they boning? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 December 2017 We want Ward back 

 Name: Retired Conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 18 December 2017 The Amtrak train that derailed in Washington was going 80 mph in a 30 mph curve. Its ok though, the conductor in the third car was qualified even if the engineer wasn't. 

 Name: numbutt E-mail: duh duh dot duh Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 December 2017 Pinenuts is a complicated CSX retred. Intermodal is going down. Boxcars or nothing. Learn to offload/onload from the side. 

 Name: Chuga Chuga E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 December 2017 Covered @ 51.42. Sure wish I knew his condition on thursday. I'll look for more opportunities. 

 Name: Captain Crunch Berries E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 December 2017 Well I guess what they need to do is put old HH in an old MOW gondola and have him tour around csx properties so everyone can pay their respect to him and when he starts smelling funny fill up the gon with dirt and have Jack Vierling store the car somewhere never to be seen again would that be considered a load or empty oh well. 

 Name: Mr.Ed E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 December 2017 CSX withheld information on EHH's health form investors. Someone needs to go to prison for this. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 December 2017 To all the wall street bankers and investors... I guess you wont be cashing out millions after all. You all seen how Hunter took CP stock and Quadrupled it and made millionaires out of alot of people and you scumbags wanted to get in on it. Guess what cash out your tens of thousands of dollars and go ruinother people's lives,leave us csx employees alone. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 December 2017 I guess I gotta buy a round trip plane tickets to Florida now, cause i always said i piss on his grave when he droped dead.i wonder How many Hunter haters will show up to his wake and funeral to tell all the people there to Mourning his death what a rotten prick he was. 

 Name: not fooled E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 December 2017 NUMBUTT Last post from poser pines(pinenuts)didn't have damn thing in it about intermodal. All about the investors. So go take your bull crap distraction attempt back to the csx rock you crawled out of and tell them you failed. I wonder what test failure you will get for this one! The king is gone and everyone hated him. So get over it. The people will tell it how it is and post what's happening. 

 Name: numbutt E-mail: duh duh dot duh Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 December 2017 Intermodal is one boxcar on the back of a truck. Pinenuts says. 

 Name: GD E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 December 2017 Other Before you post why don't you try googling the rules for flying a flag at half staff. The private sector, business or not can chose to fly their flags at half staff to honor someone they feel was a leader, highly respected mentor, etc. Not saying the flag should be lowered for one of the most hated man in RR history as far as I know but you need to educate yourself before you try to file a complaint and look like an idiot. 

 Name: Chuga Chuga E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 December 2017 Premarket order In short 1,000 shares @ 52.15 Lets see what happens 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 December 2017 WTF I didn't say not to sell your CSX stock. Only thing I said was people shouldn't wish for a massive sell off. Better yet that Mantle Ridge doesn't pull their investment. I sold mine in increments this year after nearly 30 years of investing in CSX. I'm retired and decided to look for better dividend stocks. CSX in the $50s @$.20 a share wasn't getting it. It was a difficult thing to sell something you've owned for nearly 30 years. At my age income growth seems more important. Get that extra money to travel etc... without touching the original investment. 

 Name: Stand E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 December 2017 Just got called to work at my terminal. Flags at half staff. I went out and raised them back up. Let’s see what happens now. 

 Name: Hugh Jorgan E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 December 2017 Mr. Ed You've been quiet this weekend. I was wondering how things were going around the barn yard? Do you plan to advise mr.foot with your vast knowledge of railroading? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 December 2017 Reverse hump operations are dangerous all over the system not just Louisville. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 December 2017 The puppet master is gone, will James Foote be the new puppet master or a true CEO. Will our trainmasters continue to be puppets? Looks like Louisville will be the terminal that sets the example by the way it sounds, lets hope system wide everyone else will sack up and do the same. Keep us updated. 

 Name: Stand your ground Louisville E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 December 2017 The superintendent at the Osborn Yard is as big of a chump as anyone on the system, when he left the last place he was at the employees busted out all of his windows. This 3 foot 8 inch chump is a snake and ain't worth the dirt I piss on. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 December 2017 The superintendent in Louisville has been forewarned of those concerns and has refused to address them. 

 Name: Hunter's Grave E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 December 2017 Question: Who's pissing on Hunter's grave? Seriously, I've seen many posts in reference to this. There should be a long line, judging from recent posts. I'll go first! You all can follow. I challenge all, to really saturate that grave site (probably in Florida), with piss!!!!!!!!! Please post grave site, if you know. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 December 2017 This is no joke, are they blaming the crew or the CEO for making us completely change the way we work with no one ever teaching proper technique or having a single class about how we should do things under PSR? Wait I already know the answer, it's always the crews fault not the dumb as shit operating procedures that were forced on us. 

 Name: This is no joke E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 December 2017 This is no joke the flag at the hump tower in louisville was and probably still is at half staff, saw it with my own eyes. As far as respecting local managers, theres no way you can even give them the benefit of doubt when they have us working with a operations plan that has no rules or procedures, i.e. kicking cars at one end of the bowl (3500 ft. tracks max) while another pulling job triple or quadruples 80 ro 90 racks at the other end.....we do it everyday like sheep, trying to keep up so rhey keep.the doors open hopeing nothing happens. Well yesterday somrhing did, we r damn luckey one of our own wasnt killed last night he bailed off 100 feet before the hopper he was rideing tipped, 3 employees are out of service all because....well youguys tell me 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 HA, there is no fee for these transactions, I have bought and sold CSX stock several times through Empower Retirement which is what about 90% of CSX employees have. 

 Name: HA E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 December 2017 WTF How much is the broker fee for selling your stock. What is the fee for buying it?????? How much will you lose to sell as verses just sitting on it and letting it come back up? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 flip the csx flag upside down, universal sigh of distress 

 Name: hey you E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 Everybody mark off bereavement for Christmas. Our condolences for our fallen leader. WO KO 

 Name: Ben Dover E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 http://www.usflag.org/nff.half.staff.html Here's your answer! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 Only the president or governor can order that. Someone should call the local news. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 Surely someone is joking saying the flag is at half-mast in Louisville. If that is true then I have no idea how anyone there could respect management or take the seriously. 

 Name: Combat vet E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 December 2017 It could not be any more disrespectful to the men and women that deserve our flag flown at half mast. Hunter Harrison has done absolutely nothing for this country to deserve the honor of the U.S. Flag flown at half mast. At least 90% of CSX employees hate this guy, we should not honor a guy that damn near destroyed our company. Any flag flown at half mast for Harrison should be burned and replaced with an untainted new flag. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 17 December 2017 Yeah, maybe. But 80% or more of managers are awful too. Can have hassles/issues/problems with good leaders for a variety of reasons. Been that way for a long, long time. That will probably never change. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 Trainmasters post under courteous and professionalism, please read it. He is absolutely right about at least 20% of us. There are plenty of us very undeserving of our job and don't even earn their check. Trainmasters like this guy actually distinguishes between shit employees and good employees vs treating everyone as a warm body to move cars. Everyone is different and should be treated accordingly to how you act at work. I like this trainmaster, whoever it is. I would say he treats his good employees good and in turn they treat him good. 

 Name: lol E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 December 2017 Pay raises are in place back pay by Jan 31st. New system notice. 

 Name: This guy E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year Posted: 17 December 2017 The flags at osborn yard are at half mast today, just thought everybody would think that was as funny as i did. WTF 

 Name: Retired Conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 17 December 2017 You have to love the line in the CSX statement "The entire CSX family mourns this loss." 1/10 of 1/100 of the CSX family mourns. That's around 30 people. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 December 2017 HH is gone! CSX Transportation Employees morale is at the bottom of the barrel! Hopefully the Board of Directors look long and hard for a CEO that is more Customer and Employee Friendly and not, "My Way or The Highway Mentality!" Merry Christmas to all!! And hopefully a better New Year ahead! I cant help but thing of the Wizard of Oz, "Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is dead" 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 That's right co 10-20. I couldn't have said it better myself! They all want to make their money back, and this will shake up the board a bit. It should be a turning point for the ones that know it wasn't working. Even the cp and can guys he brought on. They might not feel the same without uncle hunters intimidation. Think about it. These guys aren't his friends. They are just more guys that lived through his intimidation at previous rrs. He probably belittled every one of them dozens of times. They were doing what he said because they wanted to impress him, and thought they'd get on his good side. Do you think he would have brought them if he didn't have someone he wanted to replace? He just knew they were more obedient, and that's why the others had to go! They weren't Hunter rules compliant. Also correct as to what we have to do now. There's going to be a lull in operating decisions at first, and that's when we need to band together and let the Hunter managers know now, that the old style railroaders are still here. That they might not want to tangle with wounded t&e brothers. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 I'm really hoping everyone is on board with this. It is time to set our future in our favor. I wouldn't call it bullying, I would say it's just letting everyone know it's our railroad. They don't have anything without us. Let these managers know we're in charge. Tell all your coworkers, get the word out quick! Lets go brothers! Knock em back a peg while the new plan is developing. I think it's safe to say that the investors might see that things aren't exactly working out, and there's no "railroading icon" to offend to sway their opinions. It's clearly a day of saying, man, maybe this was a stupid plan, let's make our money back. I believe by Summer, there will be an entirely different agenda, and maybe Foote will make a name for himself by turning things around instead of this psrr failure. 

 Name: LOCO E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 December 2017 Whatever intimidation tactics you managers learned at Hunter Camp you better forget or there will be major problems. We are in position to take it all back. We out number you and we outsmart you. There are not enough of you to run the railroad even if you knew how. 

 Name: WTF E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 Read what the guy listed as "Suckers" wrote, this guy knows what he is talking about, just wait and see. His prediction it spot on or very close to what will happen. 

 Name: WTF E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 This is to the guy that thinks he is investor savvy and calling everyone morons...... You sir are an idiot! It takes about 48 hours to buy or sell a stock depending on what day of the week it is. If you have 100 shares right now and the stock price is $54.00 and you keep it knowing it will drop to$44.00 because you are in it for the long haul and you know it will bounce back then you are an idiot! Why not sell at $54.00 wait till it hits$44.00 then buy it back? You are such an idiot on this topic, please don't give advice to anyone about investing you moron! My God how can someone be this stupid? To RRJIM, this part is for you, why are we cutting off our own feet by selling? Should we keep our money in CSX stock knowing it will fail, knowing we will loose our retirement? Why to help CSX stay afloat? Let it fail please, we can all buy back in at record lows and ride the return back to the top. If CSX stock tanks then there would be investors lined up to take over and bring it back to life buy undoing everything from the past year. CSX is an excellent candidate now for a turn around, all that has to be done is revert back to Michael Wards operating plan, or anything similar that involves actually getting and keeping customers. RRJIM, the other guy gets the idiot of the year award but you are a very close runner up. 

 Name: Reality Check E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 December 2017 HH said....."I'll eat the spaghetti"! Looks like he choked on it. Failure as a lasting legacy to an arrogant asshole is Karma at its finest. Over 300 million to a dead man creeping hopefully will be taught in business schools as one of the dumbest stupidass decisions of all times. Ed Kelly, go find your balls and tell Foote and the rest of the Hunterasslickers to throw that PSRR HORSESHIT in the trash and unfuck this mess or they can go back to CN or CP where they came from and worship at the altar of a man burning in Hell right now. Wick Moorman just retired from Amtrak. He knows how to run a bowl of spaghetti. His successor and NS are doing just fine. The only part of PSRR that worked was sending business to the competition. CSX employees and customers have had enough of HHs "guru legacy". I hope HHs last words as the Grim Reaper put his arm around him was, "I FAILED"!! 

 Name: seasoned E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 December 2017 New day You must be a new guy. If you weren't then you know the company has been doing this for years before EHH ever came around. They always find a way to cut ex boards and pools and keep people off the payroll any chance they get especially around the holidays. If you pay attention to the pattern over the years you would see that. They will cut the extra board and then let the guys who are bumped and cant hold a spot sit there and rot until they decide to create a spot for them. They will make sure they are not available the day before, of or after the holiday so they cant claim holiday pay. They always expect guys to lay off for the holidays so they know they can use a few as they need them. They also know the industries lay in on Christmas holiday and some on New years so they aren't worried about being a few days behind on deliveries. A lot of industries close down for inventory time at the end of the year to get ready for taxes. They have been doing this for years. They always chop the boards when winter starts. This is nothing new. Every single furloughed guy was called back that was in the greatlakes division. They came back or they didn't answer their letters or phones. Some moved and didn't leave a forwarding address. Not siding with what EHH did across the system but the manpower shortage this year would have happened anyway. CSX does this every stinking year as soon as Thanksgiving hits! Screw men out of holiday pay. Make them work one day around Christmas but never enough to get holiday pay. The only thing that ever brings everyone back is a blizzard. 

 Name: Invest E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 MORONS What the hell is wrong with you people. You obviously don't know a thing about investing or the stock markets. The stock will drop because of fear and stupidity with henny penny. The sky is falling... the sky is falling. What you don't know will hurt the idiots that dump! It will never fall below what is was before EHH came in. It will stable out sooner than you think. Those of you who invest for the long haul and don't play penny stocks know this. Its the idiots that don't know a thing about playing the long haul game. Don't listen to these idiots. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 December 2017 My condolences to Mr. Harrisons family. Anyone wanting the stock to crash with massive sell offs is cutting off their own foot. Investors give corporations a cash lifeline. What happens now? Mantle Ridge pulling out the $1 billion it invested? Stock could get cut in half. I sold all my CSX stock which I've bought & owned for decades while working this year at a healthy profit. I'd buy back in if hits back in the$20's & '$30s. Mike Wards people are gone. I don't know anything about Foote. Today there's no CEO on CSX. The BOD could appoint Foote as acting CEO till they make a decision. It's a wait & see.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CSX/holders?p=CSX Being stock stupid how does Mantle Ridge have only 106 shares one day then click on Mantle Ridge and in the billions the next day which included sale of stock.Did EXHH pay for 300,000 shares or railroads pay a year ahead? Where does one find the copy of these ponzi checks?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2017 Hunter is dead!! Hell yeah! Rot in hell scumbag   Name: ADVICE for Mr. Foote E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 December 2017 Mr. Foote, Please take the time to check out what everyone is saying about your late friend Hunter on social media. Despite your rosy memories of Ewing, He is/was a VERY HATED man. A lot of the job cuts he made went way beyond what was necessary, a lot of the changes he made were out of malevolence against the working men, and the unions. He had very little regard for the personal harm he caused for so many people, communities, and even our very own customers. I urge you not to follow his path, but instead to be a voice of reason and compassion when dealing with the employees that make this company successful. An army divided is doomed to failure. But a company that is united can form a great empire!   Name: Ben Dover E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Never ever bet on a half dead horse to win the race! Never bet against Karma! She never has lost a race! Never use intimidation against your players to get them to play better ball! Pissing off your players that add value to your team will not work in the long run. Never sell your sole to the devil for a dollar!(Henchmen) If PSR was such a great operating plan then why aren't all the other Class 1 railroads doing it? It doesn't take a genius to do what EHH did. As a matter of fact it doesn't even take a heart! If I were a betting man I'd say EHH was dead before they ever made the announcement of his leave Thursday. Just a little tactical move to save face. Stay Tuned! I'll bet SHTF this next week! God Save CSX!!!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 December 2017 Harrison’s name carried the premium him and hilal mantle ridge have been together a long time with cp and csx Now he has to trust Foote someone he’s only known a month with billions of investor money on the line investors will be spooked customers still not happy winter is here employees will push back the place will be in turmoil this stock goes to 0.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 If they work us Christmas they will see push-back like never before.   Name: Chuga Chuga E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 Gona try shorting this stock in pre-market Monday IF I can catch this falling knife BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAA.....   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Lets make national news gentleman! We know what to do, it starts tonight. Make sure you dump all stock by Monday because it will keep plummeting. If you haven't yet then you already lost big, don't expect to regain it get out before you lose it all. If you have FMLA use it, if you have dailies or personal days use them, if you can mark of sick and not move up a step in caps then do it. If you have to be at work then be 100% rules compliant to see how much gets done. Don't help out any other crews, definitely don't do the work of another craft especially bleeding cars off it is not your job to be a conductor and a carman, they don't pay you to be a carman. Report and damaged cars that have to be sent to the shop, don't just let them ride. If a draw bar is to hard to move because it hasn't been greased since April then don't move it, get help.   Name: na E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 December 2017 Finra Your absolutely right. He was on life support at the time of the announcement. Everyone in management in the yard new about it.   Name: TMAN E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 December 2017 There is absolutely no better time than now to take our railroad back! If you want what we lost back now is our chance. Remember when the managers actually respected us and would damn near beg us to get the work done? Remember when they would give out thanks awards if we got the work caught up? They bought food on occasion. Remember quits and free boots? Remember when we had the upper hand and they knew it so they were not jackasses that constantly threatened us. Remember when you could show up to work and do your job and your job alone without being watched and harassed. Remember when we could be inside the cab of a moving locomotive when it was 20 degrees or raining or sunny and 75? Remember when we showed up to work and wasn't rushed out of the locker room within 5 minutes of our on duty time and when minutes came we got an actual lunch break, not a short 20 minutes and then they were calling and harassing us? We worked a lot of 6 hour days and got more done with way less effort before, we also had almost twice as many customers and almost twice the amount of work.   Name: Push back E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 December 2017 It's time we make a point, and quick. These managers need a heavy dose of intimidation to put the power where it belongs. We're running this show. Show em things changed now that Hitler Harrison shit the bed! Turn them f#*!in tables, push back, get the message across like real railroaders used to do! A dozen sliced hoses, a disabled trainmaster truck, maybe see a manager outside of work and make a point, maybe we can be the ones in the weeds when they're out in the field. Be creative. Let's adjust some attitudes.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Brevement unavailabile for grandparents and aunts but now available for uncles.. how you going to mark off dead on payday weekend ? After they bury uncle hunter can we start unburying our engines and cars out of storage so we can move freight?   Name: Dman E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 I agree lets take it back, take a stand, nows the time, stability is shaky, and managers that have been harassed can be swayed, its worth a shot the all powerful oz is no more, just a man behide a curtain.   Name: Finra E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 December 2017 I'd wager the old man was dead or on life support when they announced his "medical leave." That way they could stagger the hit to the stock and buy mantle ridge, or at least certain individuals, a trading day to bail on their shares before they pulled the plug on HH. The timing of his death/incapacitation, the announcement of his "leave," and certain share sales are worthy of investigation.   Name: Nip It E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 To all of the shareholders that voted to bring HH in: I sincerely hope that you're feeling like like the IDIOTS that you truly are. 384 million for less than a years worth of work is a lot of money, but I'm sure you IDIOTS probably think that it was worth it. Whatever it takes to rationalize your greed, go for it. I hope you lose your azz on the decision you've made. Now, go back to your villages.   Name: Dwight Shrute E-mail: dwhite@yahoo.com Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Hip-Hip-Hooray! Hunter is DEAD! The man who only thought of his bonus and the shareholders all the while screwing over thousands of Brothers and Sisters industry wide. Enjoy your dirt nap you old geezer. You gonna spend your cash on the other side? Don't forget your nasal cannula.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 December 2017 Now you’ll really see the stock plummet look out below   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 I believe this is applicable right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 MERRY EARLY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!   Name: Bye you sob E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 16 December 2017 HH IS DEAD !!!!!!!   Name: Monty Burns E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Do you anti-union guys really think that without unions the railroads would compete for workers with higher wages and benefits? You are fools. There are only a few class one railroads. They would colude with each other to keep wages low. These CEOs and hedge funds that own all industries only care about the bottom line. There is no competition, only the same puppet masters pulling different strings.   Name: The Wizard E-mail: kickthedog Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 Hunter is DEAD!! All you managers hired by Hunter from CN/CP better get out of dodge. You gonna be hunted down by all the other local managers and employees you tried to bully! Your days are numbered! All you idiots that keep talking shit about the union are a joke. YOU ARE THE UNION!! If you dont like it make it better otherwise shut your traps. A new day approaches!!! Let's ROLL!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Trains magazine is reportedly saying Harrison has died   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 December 2017 Unions prevent employers from firing lousy workers Unions make sure we are all paid the same so the most productive employee makes no more than the least productive. This is a problem because it takes the incentive of working hard out. If Sally picks 900 apples a day and Dave picks 200 apples a day then Sally should make a little more per hour, when Dave sees that Sally got a raise the Dave starts to pick more apples to try and get a raise. Sally continues to work hard everyday and one day a supervisor retires so Sally is offer the position, now Dave is upset that he wasn't offered the job and he resents Sally (his new supervisor) Dave out of spite starts damaging apples and only picking 200 apples a day again. Sally fires Dave for being a dipshit! Sally hires a new employee that is a good worker and deserving of the job. The new guy, Bill picks 900 apples a day and gets top pay, all the other workers want top pay so they pick 900 apples a day, now production is at an all time high and they can supply more customers so the business grows and grows and hires and hires. One day a hedge fund is interested in the apple business, it plants a new CEO to implement precision apple picking. The new CEO turns out to be bananas and goes ape shi* trying to turn around the business by selling all the equipment and closing up orchards. The remaining orchards over time become less and less profitable as employee morale slips. Bill (the new guy that Sally hired) has lost all motivation and starts picking bananas, Sally fires Bill for picking bananas. CSX hears about some idiot working at an apple orchard picking bananas and decides hey that guy would make an excellent Trainmaster. Bill now works at CSX.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 Retired Now's posted words are correct. The post from Other, non-employee, for N/A - can be picked apart line by line & that person ought to do a heck of a lot of research & studying.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 December 2017 To RR JIM A lot of employers offer part time and that is a good thing because people sometimes need to go to school or be a mom or dad etc. some people can't or don't want to work full time. The jobs you are talking about are generally what high school graduates that are just starting out in life take, they are not intended to be careers. If a company offers part time positions would it be fair to give them all the benefits as a full time employee? If part timers got all that then the full timers would want more because they are full time. Economics lesson 1: If Amazon, Walmart, and Sam's Club paid 17 an hour and offered all the benefits you listed then who in the hell would hang on to the back of a garbage truck in the cold and rain for 18-20 an hour? Who would go obtain$60,000 in college debt and spent 4 years to get a degree to become a mechanic to make 45k a year? Who would work at the railroad? If I could work at Walmart for 17 an hour with full benefits I would be there today. The list goes on man. If the pay and benefits were great for these jobs then you would pay a lot more for groceries, furniture, clothing, etc. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 16 December 2017 http://www.amazondelivers.jobs/about/benefits/ 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 Yeah, A lot of employers today hire part-timers working them just enough to keep them at part-time status not having to pay for healthcare, vacation pay etc.... Amazon, Sam's Club, Walmart etc... It was unions that fought & won vacation days, healthcare, pensions etc... but once people started believing they didn't need unions by the 90s it all came crashing down. Pensions were replaced with crappy voluntary 401K's subjected to the whim of the stock market, healthcare replaced with voluntary group policies, the list goes on. Most corporations don't pay for any employee benefits anymore. But, great that employee saved $100 a month by not paying union dues. That's dumb.   Name: Retired Now E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 Members' dues cannot be used for political campaign contributions. Only Unions' PAC monies, voluntary donations from members, are used for that purpose. [These donations are in addition to dues payments.]   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 December 2017 Plenty of non union jobs get paid vacation Plenty of non union jobs get personal days You choose if you want dailies or straight weeks so it's not like you're getting paid vacation and in addition daily vacation days Any company that requires travel will pay for your lodging Detention time, ok but would we not have it if it weren't for the unions? Annulment pay is good, not too many non union workers get annulled so that's probably why they don't have annulment pay Unions have absolutely zero to do with government regulations The union doesn't get you back when you are fired- the railroad is the only place that I know of where employees are fired on a regular basis, it is set up this way to keep everyone under the company thumb, they know you will probably get back and they want you to come back. Most employees have a mishap in their 2-5 year mark if they fired everyone when they got in trouble there would be almost no one with more than 5 years of seniority, basically everyone on the railroad would be a new guy. The cost to replace 90% of the employees every 5 years would cripple the railroad so there is no way they could operate like that. Trip rate deadheads, ok good Not sure about non union jobs getting insurance 60-65 after 30 CSX does not match 401k who told you this? Plenty of non union jobs do have a company match 401k Stock award is nice if you earn it which is not easy to do, plenty of non union jobs have company stock options and also profit sharing Now with every perk listed that you think the union got us, imagine if we were non union.... Do you think we wouldn't have these perks? Without these who in the hell would put up with the lifestyle of working for the railroad? The railroad could not retain employees without these things. Would you apply to work at the railroad without any of this? Companies have to offer a decent enough employment package to be able to hire and retain employees. Now prepare to have your balls blown off...... You are in the same union as a lot of other employees that work for other railroads, they have very similar contracts because of the unions. Imagine if there were no unions and each company made their own agreements, in this scenario railroads would actually have to compete for employees. If railroad A, B, and C are hiring and you are looking for work then you would choose the one that has the best benefits right, well if that were railroad A then most people would try to work there. Now Railroad B and C have to offer better incentives to get employees hired and to retain them. I can go on but I think you can figure out how it moves forward from there. I left out holiday pay earlier, plenty of non union jobs get holiday pay but they don't have to submit a claim that will likely get denied due to insufficient information or improper agreement. The way a lot of non union jobs do their holidays is they are just off for the holiday and they get 8 hrs pay. Funny how you conductors like to stand on the nose in the cold and rain, it's always sunny and 75 in the cab   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 I apologize to everyone on here. If someone would of explained the changes with the current SSA I would of understood. Thankfully someone finally did. It's easy today for all of us to get nasty with one another. I regret that it did. I sincerely mean it.   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 LC Thank you for the explanation. I guess a lot has changed in the 7 years since I retired. It was confusing especially when the BLE states CSX (H&W only). I still get all correspondence from the BLE-T. I even got a ballot to vote on the national contract seeing I'm a BLE-T lifetime member. I didn't vote that's not my decision anymore. People can say the unions aren't doing anything. After retirement I worked as an outside contractor through a local Manpower for a shortline railroad for 4 1/2 years leasing CSX track that I once ran from 1984-1999. They're a non-union railroad. There employees make$15-$18 an hour overtime after 40 hours no benefits. They have a group healthcare policy they can join at 100% their expense. The truth became known to me that as an outside contractor doing flagging work for outside contractors like VDOT, fiber optics etc... I made more per hour than they did. That's what a non-union railroad would look like. It's troubling to read people on here thinking they would be better off without a union. CSX and the other railroads would like to get rid of MOW, Signal Department etc.... hiring outside contractors. One man only on trains is being threatened. The unions are fighting these battles. The national was able to freeze the healthcare premium at current level that covers the employee & family. Railroads wanted$750 a month for just the employee another $750 to cover the family. They managed to secure wage increases better than most in this country. The list goes on. Now Railroad Retirement is being threatened by the Republican tax bill.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Paid Vacation Personal Days Daily Vacation Days Lodging Detention Time 8 hours or mileage of assignment if annulled Government regulations (both good and bad) The right/opportunity to get back if wrongly fired Trip rated deadheads on assignments that have them (I know not all assignments have them and time consumed is still in play on some) Insurance from age 60 to 65 one you reach 30 years of service 401 K Match Stock for Trainmen Stock for Engineers (tougher to earn) I can list several things that they don't do well, especially the policing of the new regime, but I am not quite sure what you do other than file claims and wait for the process.   Name: lol E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Retired Conductor You're on point Brother.   Name: Retired Conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 16 December 2017 On the plus side the union maintains seniority. That means you get the job that you are entitled to, not based on who the TM likes or not. The union takes dicipline and wage and rules violations to arbitration. I know dozens of men brought back to work after being fired. On the minus side, as said here, we are not very good at having concrete language in our new agreements. The railroads have top shelf teams of lawyers , we have mostly ex conductors and engineers. Also, to dip into politics, the unions are blinded by decades of Democrat party promises, but little action. Our dues, if they go to political donations, should be based on who actually can generate more business and therefore more jobs.   Name: Bye bye Hunter E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2017 Anyone else heard even Mantle Ridge is selling their shares?   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for N/A Posted: 15 December 2017 To Future X LC Please so I can pick it apart, please list for us the positive things that our union has done for us, I dare you. Give me a list   Name: Future X XLC E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 December 2017 I see clearly now - the carrier wants to increase wages, benefits, job security and quality of life and the union is the only obstacle in the way. Makes sense right? I suppose the carrier also thinks CEO pay is obscene and workers are being treated poorly for their efforts. Must be why Corp America so diligently try's to bust unions, not to benefit shareholders but to help the working man. Great news, maybe the Rep controlled government can push through a federal right to work bill after they cut Corp taxes.   Name: Future LC E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 December 2017 List for us the positive things that our union has done for us please so the rest of us can see how great it is to be a member of this union   Name: XLC E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 December 2017 REALLY! Why do you waste your time? Obviously you believe your conspiracy theories, the fix is in, you found the man behind the grassy knoll. Take a bow and exit stage left, or stage RIGHT in your case.   Name: yeah E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 December 2017 XLC When I first became a member of the UTU I had some issues with their article and the way they were written. I also heard so many rumors about agreements made on the side and didn't have any copies of them that I called the International and requested that I be sent copies of the side letters which was my right per federal law/LMRDA. Not only did the rep at the time I was talking to get smart mouthed with me but he told me that there were at least 5 filing cabinets of side letters and there was no way I could be or would be given copies of these letters. If I wanted a letter I could put in a request through my local chairman and he would see that I got it. We started a petition and actually had 2 LC jump on board and request that these so called side letters be put on a disc for the LC and they could distribute them to the members. We all know the answer to that. There were also comments made during several discussions about it that there were letter that dated back to the 1940s that still existed. whether that is true or not no one knows. How would any of the members in the trenches now any of this. We just pay our dues and live on the mercy of the international to getting around to answering these questions. I don't know one single LC in the last 8 years that hasn't said they don't know what is happening half the time because the GC and the International leave them on hold and they feel left out of the loop. What I posted is a fact. Knowledge is power. Keeping your members in the dark and ignorant is how they keep control of them.   Name: REALLY? E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 December 2017 The union doesn't work for the employees, the union works for the company We have to be in the union to work at the railroad We have to pay a set amount in dues every month We can't strike The union doesn't have to do anything at all for us and they still get paid, it's not like we can drop out of the union or only pay half of our dues when we are not pleased! The union gets paid by the members regardless of performance. The union gets paid by the company based on performance so it is in the interest of the union to please the company not the employees. Don't be so ignorant to how the real world works   Name: XLC E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 December 2017 Yeah! I doubt the union is trying to control anyone, information is available and every member can take the time to educate themselves. Its absurd to say, "the problem isn't the carrier constantly abusing our agreement", but the union for allowing vague language. The phrase "constantly abusing" is an indictment in itself. That's not to say the union isn't often bested by carrier legal teams when negotiating agreements, I'd say thats most often the case.   Name: lol E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 December 2017 When we originally got the bid system under Ingram. The EC and over miles were to be paid on dH. No gray area whatsoever in wording. Csx didn't like it and the ble bent over and changed the wording. Then the ble had the audacity to tell the membership just because were changing the wording doesn't mean were forfeiting the ec on dhs. Some believed this and stop complaining and with time most forgot all about it.   Name: Grondon G. E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 December 2017 Around 44 million csx shares were traded today or swucthed hands, the average in a given day is around 6 million shares, csx maybe trying to buy back shares to stablize the price. Who knows.   Name: YEAH! E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 December 2017 XLC THANKYOU for finally saying it. I have been saying for years to everyone I work with that the problem isn't with the carrier getting away with constantly abusing our agreement, its the Unions allowing the articles to be written as you put it in so many words.....A whole lot of damn gray areas in the wording! They also have articles written that contradict each other or leave loop holes to override one with another(benefit for the carrier) causing even more confusion for the members. I used to be a member of the UAW. Our agreement that we had was written in black and white. There was nothing to disagree about. If the company tried something stupid it was dealt with swiftly and was settled quickly. The only reason any unions write an agreement the way ours does is so that the members do not have the power to represent themselves. If every member had a black and white agreement with no loopholes then we wouldn't even need an LC. We could handle our own claims/complaints. We would have power. The UTU and the BLET does not want their members to have that kind of knowledge and power. A good union equips their members with all the knowledge they need and the ability to get quick and direct answers from their locals and the International. Sorry, not what any body wants to hear but that's the facts. This gives the union full control over their members and its ability to horse trade deals when trying to settle a so called gray area in an article. I've seen it done. Lets just sit at the table and agree that since the members are putting in hundreds of claims for this particular article and we really aren't sure what to agree upon to make them happy , lets settle on another other one that they have very little claims on and settle it for .50 on the dollar and tell the members that it was settled and the carrier agreed to pay a percentage and rewrite the article for the best interest of both parties. Almost every time they will tell you that it was better for the members as a whole to settle for what they did because otherwise the carrier could stall and it could be years before it is settled. A tactic that is used to bluff members into thinking things are being settled fairly and the unions are actually doing their jobs properly... BLAH BLAH BLAH   Name: XLC E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 December 2017 Wondering A collective bargaining agreement is a "contract" between 2 or more party's. In our case the union, employees (majority rules, thus some are governed by the agreement without voting for it) and the employer. In general a collective agreement is larger in scope and covers more people then what one would normally consider a contract. Agreements settles things like wages/insurance (in our case), but leaves other issues not clearly defined as future difference cannot be foreseen. Neither side expects the agreement to clearly cover all issues, in fact they may leave some issues vague as they cannot agree but want to move on with the agreement. When issues inevitably arises arbitration is used to settle these matter, but as we know that takes time and funding.   Name: Cond. E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 December 2017 Trump lover This is csx sucks if you didn't happen to notice. Not spew your political crap.com. Oh yeah, must be one of those loud mouth trouble making moles that the monitor posted about. Hope the webmaster cuts you off. Now back to more important things. We all better keep an eye on our stock. Some of us are getting close to retiring and counting on some of that to use for a living. This Foote character may just be a puppet that EHH molded into Mini Me or he could be just the opposite and was just waiting to step in a knock the old man out permanently. Going to be real interesting to see if he thinks this precision railroading is all its cut out to be.   Name: Trump lover E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 December 2017 Trump is doing amazing things for the railroad industry.We should all be grateful for his leadership.Thanks trump   Name: JACK LEVELER E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 December 2017 For every thousand shares you had you just lost$4500 overnight, more to follow! 

 Name: Mr.Ed E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 December 2017 Foote, really? what the hell? I'm the horse for the job. Stock would be sky rocketing right now if I was named interim CEO. 

 Name: Retired Conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 15 December 2017 Bye Bye, wear something cool, it's going to e VERY hot at your next station. https://www.thestreet.com/story/14422341/1/csx-stock-sinks-after-ceo-hunter-harrison-takes-medical-leave.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO 

 Name: lol E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 December 2017 wondering Good point. A contract is a written or verbal agreement that is enforceable by law. An agreement is the same, however it is typically not enforced by the law. A contract is a formal agreement which is legally binding, usually created for business purposes, or to ensure the safety of one's assets 

 Name: LC E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 December 2017 RRJim Sorry, but what I meant to say is that at your time your are correct. But since your retirement all wage increases are now settled with the National agreement negotiations. 

 Name: LC E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 December 2017 RRJim What you have been trying to say is 100% correct. For some reason no one can read what you have been saying. YES! Our health and welfare is negotiated under our national agreement. Our wages, working conditions, etc are negotiated under our SSA. What is so hard for people to get about this. 

 Name: Wondering E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 December 2017 RRj/XLX/XLC and the rest. Please explain something to me. How come for the 8 years I have been working for csx I have NEVER seen anything negotiated under the term contract. It is always called an agreement. I don't think it has ever been said we had a contract passed. Just an agreement. If its a contract then why not call it that. There must be some gray area or fine line between an agreement and a contract. If we had a contract couldn't we be suing them for breach of contract? They deliberately violate our agreement. I think we should sue them for failure to negotiate in good faith. They signed the thing, They know what was agreed upon in it. When they deny valid claims and bulk with their crap they know what they are doing. No doubt they planned it all slong. That should be grounds to sue! 

 Name: lol E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 December 2017 I can't speak intelligently about The Ble-t website. Other than their the dumbasses that negotiate our contracts. They seldom ever understand the meaning of a contract they signed off on. They regularly have an arbitrator to rule on the wording of a contract after it's passed. They probably didn't realize or don't care that we are tied to the national on wage increase and H&W. They may need an arbitrator for this too or it may have been a typo. Like I posted previously the carriers have educated men and women negotiating with boxcar Willy and Jim Bob. We lose out every time. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 December 2017 CSX stock down 7% in the first half hour of trading. I hope everyone was smart enough to pull out when they could. People are going to lose a lot of money today. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 December 2017 Then explain why on the BLE website it clearly states concerning the national CSX (Health & Welfare only)? I worked under BLE/CSX SSA's and under the national H&W was the only thing that was our concern. Wages, work agreements etc...were always covered under the SSA. 

 Name: lol E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 December 2017 Rrjim you spew more bullshit than Pines. 

 Name: OleDawg E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 December 2017 Specifically, the SSA of 2014 which is currently in effect, outlines the attachment of our wage increases in Article 1, Section A. Now there's stupid, and there's lazy. As this is on page 1 of the agreement, immediately after the table of contents, one could seriously not be that lazy. STFU and go back in your hole rrjim. 

 Name: Jack E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 December 2017 Will someone educate RRJIM on our contract. We are tied to the National Agreement for the General Wage Increases and Health & Welfare. This was set forth in our third leg of the SSA. RRJIM Stop speaking of things you know nothing of. Some look on here to get information. 

 Name: tyrone E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 December 2017 To all of HH's brown nosing shareholders; DO NOT sell any stocks! He will be just fine and back on the job in no time. To all my union brothers; DUMP that shit NOW before you loose your ass! 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 December 2017 billy You poor uniformed person, or is it just ignorance? CSX doesn't give you a performance bonus without the union getting it into a contract/agreement which is the BLE/CSX SSA. If you want to believe CSX BLE LE wage increases are included in the national contract then I know you also believe in Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy etc... Don't be to disappointed when it doesn't happen. 

 Name: SSS E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 December 2017 I just moved all my CSX stock to S&P 500, maybe it won't take effect for 48 hrs but I don't think the stock will tank overnight and there is no trading Saturday and Sunday so as long as you have it moved by Friday you will be ok. 

 Name: kyle E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 December 2017 I worked a few times with this 1 new guy who was a so called college grad, he was dumb as a nail he did not even know that a engine had 2 angle cocks on it and they made this guy a T.M.!!!!! LOL. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 December 2017 You won’t be able to get out until the close of the market tomorrow that’s the way it works by then the damage will be done good luck 

 Name: F%$k ME E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 December 2017 I'm scrambling to get my money outta CSX,(and I was making$200 per day) the old man ain't in good shape! 401K, pension, etc., get it all out. This stock jump was based on Harrison taking over, not Foote! Harrison is hearing the Angels singing, or Hell's Bells! Whatever, protect your money! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 December 2017 Been on the sight several times moving assets around but this time it won't let me...hmmm 

 Name: SELL SELL SELL!!!! E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 December 2017 SELL YOUR STOCK NOW!!!! WHATEVER YOU HAVE GET RID OF IT!!!! Go to the link below and transfer your stock now before it losses it's ass and you take a major hit on your retirement. It takes 5 minutes if you know what you are doing, and if you have never messed with it, it will take about 20 minutes, it is self explanatory. I am not a broker but I can assure you that you will regret not doing it! 20 minutes of your time will save your retirement. There are about 30 other funds that you can move your money into and it doesn't cost any fees whatsoever. I know there are other crafts that have other accounts but this is the only one I know of, I do not work for or have I ever worked for CSX so I apologize and will try to post the other links for the other crafts. https://participant.empower-retirement.com/participant/#/login Sincerely Secret Santa 

 Name: Mr.Mr. E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 December 2017 Yeah I Hope the old man is ok. I don't want anyone to be in bad shape. To all you dumbasses who approved his pay package. You all to should be shit canned. Paying out that kind of money to someone his age without a medical release. 

 Name: EHH E-mail: GOB Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year Posted: 14 December 2017 Cough* cough* Guys, I’m not feeling so well 

 Name: Loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 14 December 2017 Hunter goes on medical leave.... Foote appointed CEO http://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/csx-announces-medical-leave-of-ceo-e-hunter-harrison-20171214-01223 

 Name: Retired Now E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 14 December 2017 To the Webmaster: Thank you for the site; have a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year. If you could stop by, you'd be offered beer & a pretty darn good home cooked meal. To XLX & XLC: Those recent posts were cool to read. Safety First: Winter & Holiday Season time folks - maybe even more on minds now than other times. Be careful doing what all you have to do to earn a living. 

 Name: ??? E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 December 2017 Forums... an example of topics in the wrong forum. Just look at the last 4. Take them to denied claims or unprofessionalism. Think that's where I will go with my response to all of you! 

 Name: XLX E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 December 2017 Lol Thanks for make my point, I'm sure your ignorance is bliss. 1 - Ive never marked off union on a weekend 2 - Is the claim a bullshit claim, if so should it be paid? 3 - If claim is legit, who's declining it, not the union. Other than that, thanks for thanking me! 

 Name: lol E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 December 2017 XLC/RRJim Thanks for all you that you do. We appreciate you guys laying off over the weekend to call Billy Jack about his bullshit claim that never gets paid. You guys go above and beyond. 

 Name: XLC E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 December 2017 The union bashing on here is intolerable. Things are far from ideal, but the alternative is much worse. You bitch about the union not representing employees or getting claims paid, but who is it charging employees with bs charges and declining your claims? It's the company, and they have all the advantages as they could care less if your fired or cheated out of pay. The lack of arbitration funding doesn't hurt the company, only the union, as we wait in limbo for a decision that the company hopes never comes. The company should honored our contracts and treated us like assets rather than liabilities. Until that happens (unlikely) the union, which is each and everyone of us who pays dues, is our only and best option. I've been involved and it's discouraging to take a beating from both sides. Most have no clue how matters are handled, yet talk like they have the answers. We need to be united, the company plays on our division. 

 Name: lol E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 14 December 2017 not speaking of the clowns that we deal with on a regular basis. The men who are negotiating with boxcar willy on contracts are. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 December 2017 just to clarify a long standing myth: managers are NOT Ivy League graduates. They are typically very marginal people who spent one year in junior college before flunking out, or possibly, if they are the best and the brightest, had CSX pay for an easy on line school whose credits will NOT transfer to most legitimate schools. We did have a TM several years ago with a logistics degree who stayed 3 years approx (Rice), another 2 years with a vocational film school background who worked at a hotel (stayed 2 years) a superintendent who "studied engineering" but flunked out end of freshman year (or earlier)father was a big shot, another had general studies degree - barely squeaked through- from big state U., easiest possible degree, and others ALL very marginal. It doesn't mean they are bad people, although it suggests the term "marginally effective junior officer" would be accurate. You find higher levels of education in union ranks than you do in management, although union leaders are not the top ones. The RR loves managers who cannot get any job in a normal company, and are desperate to be a RR boss, and so will DO ANYTHING to get and keep that job. 

 Name: monitor E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 December 2017 Ape A safety rule is written in a way that it has a gray area. The TMs have decided to see things differently than the crews but no one has bothered to take the issue to the operating rules department for a final answer so nothing has been settled. A TM writes up a crew member for the rule using his interpretation. The crew member argues with the TM that his interpretation is wrong and the TM tells him that what he says is the rule. The crew member argues his point and the TM tells him to get back to work. For the next week the TM follows him around and finally gets him on another rules violation. The crew member comes to this site to post. 1. He has a safety rule issue 2. He has been treated unprofessionally 3. He has now experienced harassment So now he is mad and wants everyone to know about his issue so he post under every forum he thinks warrants his topic. There are some who don't follow this idea and post under every forum because they feel their post might be missed if they don't. Some posters are not sure which forum is the proper one to chose when they have something relevant to more than one. Then we have the moles who come in when a topic is hot and makes the company uneasy. These posters are just annoying and useless. Their job is to distract and eliminate the subject. The most misused forum is Harassment and discrimination. There is a reason that that forum header is followed by: Racial, sexual, religious. Those topics are meant for that forum but because it says "harassment " many chose to post there. If you only used that forum for the topics listed you probably wouldn't see much there unless someone can prove for sure that they are being targeted because of their race or religion. As for sexual harassment, well with a mostly male based business that topic will remain pretty quiet. The webmaster may be able to find a way to block someone from putting a repetitive post in more than one forum but I doubt very seriously he will do so. Yes, it can be annoying but when people feel violated in so many different ways they will always take the strongest avenue to voice their opinion and what happened. If anything could be changed I personally would love to see the company moles blocked. But then that is the only way to find out which topics are sending up a red flag and are being reviewed by CSX lawyers and public affairs. Most seasoned poster know how to pick the moles out. They have a definite pattern and they wont let them discourage them from continuing the discussion. I understand your frustration but look at it this way, if it isn't an annoying mole and someone who is truly frustrated and violated it is better to vent here than to take it to work! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 14 December 2017 Webmaster, I appreciate the asset you provide here. Thanks. I have a request though. Any chance you can enact short term bans for those who refuse to post in only one forum? What that does is diminish the value of looking through here. We should each be able to quickly go through and scan until the last post you read, read up from there and move on. What the intellectually challenged poster do is make it a PITA until you just give up and don't come back. Maybe that's their intent. Please give some thought to this. 

 Name: sowhat E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 December 2017 Crews The fact is we are going to get some kind of chump change wage increase and we are going to pay a hell of a lot more out of our pockets for medical! God forbid any of you have sick kids or a sick spouse! Now, Im going to go figure out how much my union dues are going to go up after we get our raise. You know they get a raise every time we do. They say it is part of their fee for doing negotiations for us. In the meantime Im going to spend more of my time trying to figure out when they are going to throw us all under the bus and put us on one big pool and do away with assigned jobs or pools! Just one big board that covers everything. That is what EHH wants and will do what ever it takes to get accomplished! No seniority and never knowing what your going to get called for every stinking day. Guarantee you it is already a done deal that all pools will be self supporting until he gets what he wants. They already have a few pools doing that and no doubt they are going to change the ones that aren't. Nothing you can do about it. The extra board is going to be cut in half and more people will be on the street. Its coming so you better get ready for it! 

 Name: billy E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 December 2017 rrJ Can you read? CSX SSA bonus has nothing to do with it. General wage increase and Health care is separate and handled by the national. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 December 2017 lol I forgot to mention Dumbass. You will get a check around February for the CSX BLE-T SSA productivity bonus. From what I hear seeing I'm retired it'll be pretty good this year possibly maxing out at 12%. Which one would I take? If I made $100,000 this year that would be$12,000 productivity bonus. Or, the national contract back time for 2016 & 2017 getting maybe $3000-$5000. There is no productivity bonus under any national contract. Maybe you'll also get a wage increase under the SSA not sure of that schedule. You're clueless. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 December 2017 lol Hey Dumbass, I just checked the BLE-T website. It clearly states CSX (H&W only). 

 Name: lol E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 December 2017 RR Jim Dipsticks like yourself is why were not taken seriously. How the hell can someone work for CSX and not know the wage increase applies. You're probably involved in our union and will eventually become a GC. We have men like you and the carriers have Ivy League. That's why we always lose out. 

 Name: Bernie E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 December 2017 only a derelict old man does what this draft dodger does. he's a fraud. you're being swindled. hes fired every knowledgeable person around him. you losers hanging on hiding behind " I was just following orders."really think that's going to work. it hasnt since Nuremberg. your guilty. morally defective just like Harrison. been nowhere punks. be careful fatass low. be careful. 

 Name: BLAH!BLAH! E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 December 2017 IGITS Future conductor was just being a smart ass. Maybe a TM who is pissed off cause he came from a college and never worked the craft. Getting ready to lose his job and cant come back in the craft. 

 Name: Hugh Jorgan E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 December 2017 Future conductor Conducting is not the same as foaming. Foamers can wave at the train, blow kisses, take pictures, get erections from train whistles, and whatever else yall do. It is not as glamorous as you might think when you are laying in a rundown hotel for a couple of days waiting on a call that may or may not come soon. Id keep foaming and dreaming if I were you. 

 Name: Past conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 December 2017 Well future conductor, since there are a couple hundred conductors furloughed at each terminal, I'd say you have a long way to go. But if you have dreams about a shitty lifestyle and working for a company that steals from it's employees regularly, get in the back of the line. Alot of these guys have never done anything else in their life, so they'll wait. And alot of these guys have too much time invested in their retirement, so good luck. What's your next dumb idea? 

 Name: moderator E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 December 2017 Future conductor STOP IT! I only see a piece of coal in your stocking. 

 Name: future conductor E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 December 2017 I have a good job but I have always wanted to work for the railroad.What do you folks think should I try and get hired so I can ride those rails?oh what a life it must be riding the rails waving at the people and making that big money. 

 Name: monitor E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 December 2017 Posters Its Christmas time again as you are all aware of. Time to reflect on what we do have and what we are grateful for. Most of us have our health and loved ones to share our time with. Those who don't wish they could be in our shoes. We must show compassion to those who are not as lucky as ourselves. We must take a moment to set aside our hostile thoughts and anger to reflect on our good fortunes. As bad as our situation seems in the workplace, we still have our families and good times. It is also a time to thank the webmaster(Atom Smasher) for continuing to have a place for all of us to come and discuss as well as vent about the situations of our work place and the fears of our future. Though some may use this site as a place to bait and drag others into useless irrelevant issues it is still a pretty good site to have up and running for our use. Wish your webmaster a Merry Christmas and be kind and donate or visit his amazon wish list. I am sure he will be truly grateful for anything you give to him no matter how small. He has kept this site up and running for so many years now he should be commended for doing so. Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas or what ever holiday you celebrate. Things are tough but we will prevail. That's what we do best. HAPPY HOLIDAYS! 

 Name: lol E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 December 2017 Jokers Always someone bringing in politics when the info gets good. So damn predictable. Politics doesn't have shit to do with what's happening in our yards now. It's all because the worst ranked class 1 railroad with the lowest pay and low safety record brought in a dried up old man on his last journey to fame in to do his smoke and mirror trick he does so well. Play games,manipulate numbers and the markets and show boat a compny that could never fully compete with the big boys. Tried years to win the famous "HARASSMENT " award and couldn't get it done. NS smoked them every year. Brought in every reject from other railroads to gather info on the competition and failed. Just keeps trying. Even dupont told them to tone down the safety crap.Didn't like what they heard so they told them to take a hike. Won't use the GCORE because their way is better and that wouldn't feed the ego. It wouldn't matter who was potus or ran the government. They couldn't give a shit less. It's stockholders,investors and wallsreet that they care about. Quick fix,quick bucks and fat pockets before they bust. while our potus plays Twitter all night HH is chipping away and dismantling our industry and manipulating the stock prices. Expense account looks good when theres hundreds less to pay. 

 Name: Not fooled E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 December 2017 Pine poser Go crawl back into your sewer pipe. You can't distract people enough with your crap now you got to start your pot shots at L&N. Where is his post? When did he chime in with anything. You start this crap with him everytime you need attention. Or maybe you just make that up to. no use for you here. It's Christmas. the real pines would be crying about his dead wife and gate crossing violations. Been his Mo for 15 years.railroaders have more important things to discuss than your stupid crap. Go lay down! 

 Name: Inspector E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 December 2017 Ape I believe I understand your question. every block you pick up must have an airship showing when they were given their air test. You must keep the slip for each block. If you pick up blocks with no slips you of course will have to retest them and make a new slip for them. If you are picking up multiple blocks without slips you can put them together and test them as one block. You still have to complete an air slip for those cars. What it boils down to is if you don't put the train together all at once and air test it as one whole train you must have a slip proving the cars you picked up were tested and when. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 December 2017 Safety thread alert L@N ---Jens Bang and his dog BJ still sleep with momma Bang. So did the cook book for going down the tracks change with longer trains? The 20 mph curves, town speed limits, etc. would take longer to clear before the notch up. So longer trains are actually slower slowing down the word smithed railroads are God for the sake of InterstateCommerce one would think. This hog head guy must of did well on the railroads special kind of stupid test. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 December 2017 ame: Hog head E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 December 2017 Really? Explain to me how a long train can cause it to derail. Been doing this 25 years and never had a long train cause any of my derailments. It's always been bad track, bad switches or junk cars that weren't inspected properly. Train lenght never had anything to do with it. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 December 2017 It's cute that you nerds think that the process of bringing on EHH started under Trump lol. Spoiler: It's been in the works for multiple years. Dems are to blame this time. Trump had nothing to do with it. Democrat policies do nothing to help trade and make your jobs harder and fewer to come by. (Restrictions and regulations are expensive, turns out!) BTW: All those violent urban cities, all Democrat run. Enjoy that. :) 

 Name: Hmm E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 December 2017 Thank you 30 plus 

 Name: GTfordefied E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 December 2017 You guys talk a good game. Bad news I ain't a troll outa jackxxxville. All you guys that haven't figured out that the democratic party of today is not the same as it was even 30 years ago. They could care less about you, me or any other "working man" just look what your hero obumer did to coal country.how many people on here lost their job or had to move because of their policies 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 12 December 2017 Contact effective 12/01/17 Pay rate increases & H&W changes 01/01/18 Back/retroactive pay - due as soon as possible after effective date of Contractual Agreement but no later than 60 days [if later, the carriers have to have real good reason(s)]. 

 Name: BEANIE WEENIE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 December 2017 I just want the quits back. Better yet revert everything back to how it was 1 year ago! 

 Name: Hmm E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 December 2017 On what date was the new contract effective? 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 December 2017 so at workmlast night we discussed air slips we are doing al this new blocking of train s pick this part of a block up and this part up and so forth . how many air slips are legal or allowed for this train or should it be retested and when added new blocks can I have 20 air slips or do we need to have just one for all new blocks picked up . hope you understand question here 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 12 December 2017 It is the month of December now. Colder temps; ice, snow, just plain crappy outside working conditions in many areas. Take care\be careful. 

 Name: Cool mo D E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 12 December 2017 Does Fat Jack Vierling still work for Csx if yes how can that be he should have been the first one gone 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 December 2017 So did the cook book for going down the tracks change with longer trains? The 20 mph curves, town speed limits, etc. would take longer to clear before the notch up. So longer trains are actually slower slowing down the word smithed railroads are God for the sake of Interstate Commerce one would think. This hog head guy must of did well on the railroads special kind of stupid test. Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 December 2017 ame: Hog head E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 December 2017 Really? Explain to me how a long train can cause it to derail. Been doing this 25 years and never had a long train cause any of my derailments. It's always been bad track, bad switches or junk cars that weren't inspected properly. Train lenght never had anything to do with it. 

 Name: NOT FOOLED E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 December 2017 GT Take your baiting propaganda somewhere else. Go tell your CSX master we aint falling for it. No way are we going stop discussing whats really going on out there! You might distract a few but you cant fool them all! 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 12 December 2017 APE I was just f#@king with this GT. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 December 2017 Well, just to be factual, there has been NO, ZERO, NADA evidence to date against Trump for collusion. There's plenty of evidence against Clinton and the DNC. Just putting that out there. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 12 December 2017 GT You're calling me "Comrade" when your president Trump is in collusion with Putin & the Russians. LOL! Sorry dude, I came from a generation where Russians were the enemy during the Cold War. I didn't like Obama. I don't have to like a president. I do watch their actions. This one is selling you out but you're to blind to see it. 

 Name: GTfordefied E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 December 2017 Hey Jim, I'll tell you like I told my LC in a dead head bus 10 years ago when he told me I "had" to vote for obumer, I had to vote for my job... I told him I could get another job, I couldn't get another country... So if your wondering why so called "workers" are voting Trump and Republican,just ask your self if your a "worker" or an American, comrade 

 Name: Back pay E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 December 2017 Let us know when you guys start getting your back pay!then I can resign and get my vacation!! 

 Name: MOW E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 December 2017 Don't forget we have daily vacations, personal days, FMLA, and marking off sick. Pick a day get as many as possible to get dailies and personals in for that day then have the rest either use FMLA or call in sick. 

 Name: SP E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 December 2017 Why do people say we can't strike? Of course we can strike it is as simple as... 1.Banding together and not going to work 2.Banding together and working 100% rules compliant 3.Banding together and working at a pace that slows operations down Working in a way that slows things down means on time departures are not made and when that happens it starts a chain of events that backs everything up and you supervisors that care nothing about you start getting looked at. Other than this Google Wildcat Strike and then tell me why we can't strike 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 December 2017 I have to ask. Why is it necessary to put a response on all sections instead of just the one? That doesn't make sense. Keep it simple. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 December 2017 Me The Bid system sucks. I wish we had seniority moves. We don't get demands days, bonus or stick for being marked up that you speak of. 

 Name: Mr.Ed E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 December 2017 New 2018 operating plan. 1. We will push out 1/2 of our customers. (The 1/2 who have other shipping options) 2. We will keep 1/2 of our customers. (The 1/2 who have no other shipping options) 3. We will reduce T&E by a least 1/2. 4. We will run our trains on strict time frames. 5. We will charge our customers 2.5x their previous shipping cost for PSR. 6. Our RR will double in value. We will be making more money than ever with this plan. With 1/2 the cost for manpower, less fuel cost, less cost for power, 1/2 wear and tear on track and equipment. That's why I make the Big Bucks 

 Name: BrownHornet E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 11 December 2017 RRJim I've been to union meetings. I get frustrated and I don't go back for 6months to a year. The one conclusion I've came to is they are a Total Waste of Fucking Time. If every member of a local showed up at every single meeting the only change would be that the meeting would be moved from a telephone booth to a suite in Jax HQ. I am Pro Union hardcore 4th generation but without the power to strike our union sucks and UTU sucks Mr. Ed's dick. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 December 2017 I read a lot of complaining about the unions. I'm wondering how many take the time to go to the meetings. Everyone should be able to make it to 5-6 a year. That's what I did. If I wasn't on the road I'd give up that 2-3 hours. Your concerns mean nothing on here. The meetings are where you vent your grievances. If you feel the local chairman isn't doing their job throw your hat in the ring and run for office. Unfortunately rail unions are not like the other unions like the UAW. Our unions hands are tied by the Railway Labor Act on what actions can be taken. It's been going on for decades the violation of work agreements etc.... One action we took was to time ticket the hell out of them. Might of not got paid but they had to handle it like every other ticket. That cost them time & money. One example when the caboose was eliminated in 1991 and when EOT's were placed on the rear of trains the LE had to monitor the HTD which was the job of the conductor on the caboose with air pressure, train moving etc... Just in my terminal LE's over a 3-4 year timeframe put in well in excess of 100,000 claims for doing the work of the conductor. We didn't get a dime for it. But Payroll & Labor Relations had to handle those claims. Call it a protest. If thru freight is doing the work of local freight put in a time ticket. If any of the work is outside of yard limits there's no claim that could be considered line of road work. Issues like this is where the union meeting is the place to discuss it seeing that's a local issue. Not on here. 

 Name: Me E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 December 2017 Stand Don't forget, the utu has and continues to cost the conductors on the northern region approximately 20 thousand a year for the last 7 years..that's right, what could we do with an extra 140 k right now? And all for what ....a seniority move every 2 weeks. And all the while the southern region conductors get to bid a move every week, stock award if they stay available, bonus like the engineers, and 401k match. Oh but we wanted to be able to get our buddies to bump us so we could ride it out 48 hours....oh wait..can't even do that without the company charging us, thanks utu 

 Name: Stand as one E-mail: Employed as: APE, for N/A Posted: 10 December 2017 I have consistently dogged out our unions since I started at CSX and have done so openly. On several occasions, these pro union guys in the locker rooms have told me that "you know if it weren't for the union".... 1. We would be called to work and they could make us do whatever they want. 2. We wouldn't make the money we do, or even get decent pay raises. 3. They could hold us over for 12 hours and not give you an option or another ticket. 4. They could fire anyone of us just because they want to. 5. They could combine the work of several jobs and put it on one crew so they could cut jobs off. 6. They could get rid of weekend off days 7. They could generally make life miserable for us any way they wanted to. Well there is more but here is a good start if anyone else wants to add on here. Corresponding examples for each: 1. Y134 in the job description says 1st shift pulling job. Oh we need you to go work this industry because Y138 layed off and we can't fill it. Oh yeah and bleed off the 28 cars you brought back so we don't have to give it to the carman. 2. Decent pay means I should be able work 40+ hours a week and comfortably support my family. This last pay raise was a joke, my cost of living went up more in the last 2 years than my raises. 3. I sure thought there was a protocol for such situations, but if there is no relief for your job you are staying. 4. They sure have been targeting individuals in the past 6 months or so. 5. Look how many jobs have been combined and how many jobs have been cut off. 6. Weekend off days? There might be 3-5 jobs per terminal with weekends off, guess who gets those and guess how long you will have to be here to get it. 7. It has become more and more miserable and it will get worse. Bonus item: The Crew Attendance Point System sucks Extra bonus item: The Daily Vacation and Personal Leave days caps can and do get manipulated, it's bad enough now that guys end up carrying over days not because they want to save them but because they can't use them. Last bonus item: Where did demand days for conductors go? Thanks Union Final thought: Thank you union,I am so glad to know that we pay our dues and you have our backs when we need you! You are worthless and need to earn your checks. We don't pay you to get in bed with the company! We know the company pays you better than we do but what we do pay we should something out of it! You are a joke!! Our only hope is to make the news with something big, we can shut this country down within a few days, especially this time of year! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 December 2017 I remember when they put Road Forman on the middle engine of a long ass dp trains and he said it would beat the shit out of him. Just seems it would be easier to buck cars of the rail with long slop freight trains. For those engineers that think they are God and if would never happen to them, shut the fuck up. Regulating train length will create jobs. 

 Name: Hogger E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 December 2017 Other You know what's on your train, what terrain the rear is in and how to handle slack. Long or short it doesn't matter. Sloshy tankers with short draw bars don't play well with long ones. Especially behind autos and stacks. Sinkers on the rear. Don't blame it on the slack. It's the lack of training and the heavy handling by hot running pups.bet half of them don't even know or follow their rules for handling long cars in sharp curves. They rip out draw bars and bust knuckles like a bull in a China shop. Those who haven't just been lucky. Sure theres a few who got common sense but most just got to rush before they know shit and learn the hard way. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 December 2017 ame: Hog head E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 December 2017 Really? Explain to me how a long train can cause it to derail. Been doing this 25 years and never had a long train cause any of my derailments. It's always been bad track, bad switches or junk cars that weren't inspected properly. Train lenght never had anything to do with it. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Can ya say what? It is called combined slack. 

 Name: hadenough E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 December 2017 CSX LAWYERS HEY YOU!!!! YEAH CSX LAWYERS! While your reading this you better plan on making some calls to your safety directors and make plans to help out these idiotic Chiefs who cant seem to get it through their thick skulls that just because an Engineer has an engine equipped with PTC that doesn't mean he can run on territory he is not qualified on. No where in the FRA law does it state that the PTC program can be substituted for a human pilot! The law states the pilot cant be a member of the crew. You want to get technical I would say the PTC is a member of the crew. It on board with them! Its got the engineers ID and password in it! Half the chiefs working out here have been dispatchers and they should know that this shit doesn't fly. Why in the hell would you not teach these idiots how the PTC works. It is not a DETAILED MAP OF THE TERRITORY! It doesn't tell an engineer about the CHRACTERISTICS OF THE TERRITORY! You cant stare at the screen like it is some kind of camera that take clear visual pictures ahead and lets you know what is around every corner. Does the damb thing tell you where every bridge and gulley is when you have a flash flood warning. Does it tell you where close clearances are when your working an industry and your conductor is brand new and you don't know a thing about it either? Even if it could you turn it off while switching. Im not going to even get into the damn thing blowing at every dirt road that it shouldn't. You need to have a staff meeting and start deciding how your going to handle these chiefs who cop and attitude and threaten crews with insubordination if they don't use the PTC to go on territory they aren't authorized to go on by the FRA laws and regulations. You better start getting it together before ethics violations start pouring in and endangerment charges are thrown in your lap! Time to grow up and start teaching supervision the rules of the road. You represent a multi million dollar company and it should be embarrassing the amount of stupid mistakes and unprofessional decisions that are made every day. Time to start acting like a grown up railroad! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 December 2017 "Not long ago I heard an EX RF who is now a TM tell a newer engineer if he ran slower than 3 mph below the set limit he could be charged with delay of train." - Sounds like a certain RF&P RFE who is now the Philly Sub TM. 

 Name: other rep E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 December 2017 Ape Not all unions are as bad as the one you seem to be represented by. The UAW have one hell of a legal team and they don't mess around with management when shit gets deep. They fight to win. Sorry to say but years of doing nothing by the members and allowing your union to get In bed with management has taken its toll. Its up to the members to clean house and get down to business. You pay your union to represent you. They have a liability to you to do so. They are receiving compensation for their work. If their work is unsatisfactory you have avenues to take in federal law. Most members are not aware they have protective right set forth in federal law that protect them from corrupt unions. I was told by a friend that several UTU members stated they never received a ballot to vote in your last agreement that just happened. Did these people not call their legislative representatives or the international office and demand they be sent one? If they didn't all they did was allow and election to happen without proper voting procedures. It is the members who make things happen. Members can be their own worst enemies. 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 December 2017 Engineer 20-30 I trained a lot of locomotive engineers starting in the mid-late '80s when the 1st UTU Crew Consist made some trainmen look for other seniorities seeing the writing was on the wall to start cutting off jobs with the elimination of the caboose. Most had some years on the railroad an easy to train. By 2003 when I was getting new trainees there was a big difference. Seems most were being trained on just the basics. I tried to teach them about learning the territory using grades, curves etc.. to their advantage with throttle modulation instead of constantly going from power to dynamics and back etc.... Asking them questions. What I got was people that were pissed off thinking I was picking on them. It finally came to a head when the RFE called me into his office. He told me he had complaints that I was being mean. I told him they have to know WHY they are doing something that it's not just a motion. That if my training methods I used for nearly 20 years wasn't good enough I will refuse to train anyone. After that day I never took another trainee. They don't know back when I finally got to promotion to locomotive engineer it was more intense. The LOTH exam was not multiple choice it was handwriting the answers to the questions, the Operating Rules exam there were 3 of us in front of a panel of 5 RFE's being grilled for 7-8 hours given questions and we had to verbally give them the answer, we had to know the air brake system, cooling system etc... those old Hogheads that we fired/trained under were hard difficult men that had the responsibility to train us. The reason one day they had to meet us on the road. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 09 December 2017 unless it has miraculously changed very recently, RR unions have always been very reluctant to do ANYTHING that relates to an OSHA Violation, or ADA, EEOC, FMLA, Whistleblower, or anything that wasn't part of the union agreement since 1880. These more recent things use big words, require union reps that are best buds with their managerial cohorts, etc. to perform about, and give them tools they are incapable of or unwilling to use. The UTU? did a complaint on BN or UP about GENIE some years ago but that was very rare. No union wants a real legal department. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 December 2017 Same style 14 years later. 26 Charles Manson type bitches a day in Illinois doing nothing while the sight lines slowly go away murdering a 13 year old kid and not walking out in a PERCISION SAFETY WALK-OUT. http://www.commercial-news.com/news/local_news/railroad-safety-improvements-on-agenda/article_90527292-0a35-5d86-9667-b520a6fceeef.html ...six months after a 13-year-old died at the CSX railroad crossing near the Boys & Girls Club... Run the time line from Google map pictures and today Correction---The agenda started a few years ago and with the major overcharges and needless projects signed off by the state the gates should have been in 20 years ago. In fact the second part of the crossing which Google map shows our signals stolen was down for gates 2002. Did we pay for the gates and they not put in like half of these rediculous priced projects? http://csx-sucks.com/?topic=safe&read=c0833f3bf9 Posted: 21 October 2003 #8,118th of 8,127 543151P CSX Vermilion Danville Griffin Street Automatic Flashing Light Signals and Gates 2002 " FRA data ---Closed 10/23/2017 https://www.icc.illinois.gov/railroad/images/o/543151P/543151P-09232009-01.jpg IDOT catching themselves/CSX with pathetic sight lines. Google map 40.1363851,-87.6023413 319 0.051960 353715W CSX IL VERMILION DANVILLE GRIFFIN STREET 1 0 0 0 0 FL 13 3 50 YES 2 6,100 ...April 1, 2016... FY 2018-2021 Projects by County https://www.toi.org/Downloads/899/Twp 353715W CSX Vermilion Danville Griffin Street Automatic Flashing Light Signals and Gates Upgrade Reconstruct Approaches $410,000... It's illegal for tax-payer money for railroad property clean up per the Constitution.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 December 2017 FRA If that's a safety concern then why is it ok for a remote operator to be located on the nose of an engine during those cold temperatures. We are 5ft away from a heated cab but can't go inside. The wind chill is even worse when pulling 10mph. The number one injury is slips, trips and falls and with that rule the chances of injury is increased 10x.   Name: Ugot2Bkidding! E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 09 December 2017 FRA! Im sure your intentions are meant well but have you not been paying attention to the railroads or are you just new and haven't learned yet. If you are new let me enlighten you. First off, any device we use to get a reading of the temperature on the locomotive cant be electronic. Any device that gives a digital readout will be considered an electronic device and we would be charge for unauthorized use of an electronic device. Any other thermometer we use that doesn't will be tossed out as untested and not accurate. It will be challenged and then that device will have to be tested like a lab rate to show its accuracy. There is no way in hell the company will not fight and toss out any report or reading that we would get from anyone certified. Do you think for one moment the Unions are going to take this fight on and spend the money or use the manpower to stand behind their members and go to the mat for this issue. ABSOLUTLEY NOT! The only way we would have a chance of winning a fight on this issue is if we all carried the same device that CSX uses in it engine house/repair shops or the same device the manufacture of the locomotive uses. If that is an electronic device then you, the FRA would have to come to the mat with us and make it law that we are allowed to carry and use it. We are not stupid. We know what we are up against. You want to help us out then come back on here and post any device that we can legally use and the company can not file charges against us for a rules violation. What device will you back us up on? What device does CSX use to test the temperatures in their cabs? How do we get it calibrated to be accurate so that CSX cant say its "JUNK" and not accurate or unreliable. Who do we take it to? GET THE PICTURE!   Name: FRA E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 December 2017 T&E: ATTENTION CFR 49-229.119(d) Any occupied locomotive cab shall be provided with proper ventilation and with a heating arrangement that maintains a temperature of at least 60 degrees Fahrenheit 6 inches above the center of each seat in the cab compartment. Most crew members do not carry a thermometer or a device that can test for cab temperatures so it may feel colder that it is when you are in motion. Drafty cabs are the main cause for temperature loss. Seals on windows and doors along with drafts that come through doors inside the cabs that house electronic equipment are major causes of concern. Winter is here. IF you are in a cab that is so drafty that you can not maintain the temperature as stated in the CFR 49 then you must immediately report it to the mechanical desk and make a report in your inspection books. Do not delay. This is a safety concern and no crew member should be ordered to take a locomotive that does not provide adequate heat in the winter. I suggest you purchase and carry a device that can accurately read the temperature of the cab. This will help with your complaint. Make sure you tell the mechanical desk and note it on your report that you used such a device to monitor the temperature in the cab.   Name: engineer E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 09 December 2017 RRJim/Hoghead These newer young engineers we have out here now only have one thing on their minds. Its 8 and sand. They stand around the crew rooms and brag all the time how they can keep a 60 mph train running straight up the entire trip and boast about it like its some big accomplishment. What they haven't learned is real railroading. They cant get it through their heads no one gives a crap if they can keep it straight up on the road. Real hoggers know when the train is crap and built wrong. They know when the speeds and throttle has to be adjusted to handle the mistakes that these newer TM and YM make when building a train. They know that just because a train is set for 50 or 60 doesn't mean it has to be 50 or 60. Not long ago I heard an EX RF who is now a TM tell a newer engineer if he ran slower than 3 mph below the set limit he could be charged with delay of train. I made sure he heard me laughing. When he asked me what was so funny I told him he better ask the FRA is that's ok to be telling people before he tells everyone that. Last time I talked to them they said its up to the engineer to make the decision on how to handle his train and how fast to run. If there are circumstances that warrants the engineer running slower the only job he has is to let dispatch know so they can run other trains around them if need be. This TM got pissed and stormed off. Bad rail, defective cars and motors, bad switches aren't just the problem anymore. The way these pups are building them with all the weight on the rear instead of on the head end and heavy loaded tanks in front and behind loaded autos or intermodal effect how the train handles. Extra long cars running on rail with tight curves that are really to short to handle the things are a big deal now too. Cars were shorter in a day and they haven't done crap to adjust for it. Motors that aren't repaired properly and drop loads all the time and dynamics that drop out along with to much weight for the motors just add more trouble. Putting motors together that aren't compatible and the list goes on. Glad I was trained by a seasoned hogger who knew all this stuff and didn't worry about looking like a big shot behind the throttle. Common sense with these new pups and railroading is a joke. 8 and sand!!!! What a joke! Give the long trains to the old heads. We know how to adjust and handle them. Give the short trains to the pups!   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 December 2017 I ran trains that were 190-200 cars in the '70s & '80s with 50 & 60 ton hoppers. With higher tonnage by the '90s it became 150. A 100 car train we called a short one.   Name: Hog head E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 December 2017 Really? Explain to me how a long train can cause it to derail. Been doing this 25 years and never had a long train cause any of my derailments. It's always been bad track, bad switches or junk cars that weren't inspected properly. Train lenght never had anything to do with it.   Name: KNOWLEDGE IS POWER E-mail: www.CYAWITCSX Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 December 2017 DO YOUR HOMEWORK, KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, AVOID VERBAL ORDERS IN QUESTIONABLE SITUATIONS, GET IT IN WRITING, DOCUMENT EVERYTHING What the Carrier fears most is cross craft solidarity, what they fear next is a knowlageable employee. FRA Good Faith Challenges (49 CFR,214 subpart C & 218.97) gives you the right by federal law, to challenge a directive to violate ANY FRA law. This is SUPPOSED to be a topic trained yearly by the carrier. And if you are retaliated by the carrier for exercising your rights, you have the OSHA FRSA Whistleblower Protection Act to cover you. Lots of Bad Order wheels on cars and locos that could lead to derailment getting looked over these days, let alone the countless FRA violations on ALL equipment on the line of road at present. How many shops and service centers closed in the last 9 months??? Write it up, put it out of service, protect yourself, your fellow railroaders and the community. O, AND DON'T LET A TROLL OR MOLE CHANGE THIS TOPIC KNOW YOUR ROLE GIBRONI   Name: Ben Dover E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 December 2017 Another CSX train derailment in New Jersey today. News just said the train was in excess of 100 cars. When will it end? It will end when one derails and chlorine gas kills a lot of people. Unfortunately the government won't take action against these excess length trains until a lot of people are killed. Pathetic to say the least.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 December 2017 Bruce removing the yard transportation jobs does not equal a yard closing   Name: Bruce E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years Posted: 08 December 2017 CHICAGO, Dec 8 Final touches being put on new operating plan for Chicago, 59th St ramp to close on or about FEB 1st. By March 15th, Barr Yard will curtail switching operations to 1 job per day., and locals will be reduced to 2 jobs. More info to come as it becomes available to me.   Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 December 2017 ZULU RADNOR is being sold next year so Louisville should be safe. Plus nobody can switch racks like Louisville. When they sit there with their stop watches they need to consider we are pushing and pulling damn near twice the distance as everywhere else. On the the other hand the auto industry is about to go in the slump so who knows.   Name: not fooled E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 December 2017 So What Ignore that baiting piece of crap who is posting as pines. Not him. Not his style. Any one and everyone who has been posting on this site for the last 10 years knows his style. This guy doesn't like whats being posted. Guess everyone is hitting to close to home on all the legal info. Info on the USDOT and the FRA. Must be making the legal team in Jacksonville nervous. Keep it up and don't fall for his crap.   Name: ZULU E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for N/A Posted: 08 December 2017 Anyone hear the rumor that the Louisville Osborn Yard is very close to becoming a run through yard? The few industries around that dump do not bring enough revenue in so it probably won't be long. Better get your seniority started at Ford or UPS before everyone else does!   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 December 2017 So---Name: so what---the point being the Charles Manson type bitches running trains killing people should be grabbing the Union leaders by the pussies insisting on a precision STRIKE FOR SAFETY which is COMPLETELY LEGAL.   Name: so what E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 07 December 2017 Pines So whats your point again. Plugging anything into google isn't going to do anything. Did you know that the new PTC program that is mandatory on the railroad doesn't even have accurate information for gated or private crossings. The thing blows the horn for every dirt road and cow crossing out there and the progam has some field crossing listed as gated when not only is the crossing not gated, its not a crossing at all. So if the railroad, fra and the federal government cant figure out whats really out there how do you think looking at anything on google is going to make any difference.   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 December 2017 I like the million dollar rip off of Federal RR safety funds to pay the state DOT to do their jobs in Al;abama. Like 10 sets of crossing gates if the REAL costs were used. Project Description ALDOT PUBLIC RAIL HIGHWY 2009 MUTCD PASSIVE DEVICE COMPLIANCE PROJECT - ECR FY 2017 County JEFFERSON Project # 100066594 (times three) Total Cost$66,000, $219,000,$40,000 = $425,000 for a 8 year old deal? Mickey Mouse signs-check---shiney tape---check---DOT sign --check---Done ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Project Description STATEWIDE PE FOR RAIL SAFETY-HWY PROGRAM FY 2017,2018. THIS PROJECT IS ONLY FOR ALDOT PERSONNEL SALARY FOR SAFETY PROJECTS OR 130 PROJECTS. Total Cost$1,000 (in thousands)==ONE MILLION ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Project # 100066696 FY 2017 Project Description EVALUATE 25 AT-GRADE RAILROAD CROSSING LOCATIONS TO DEVELOP SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PHASE XVII PROGRAM DOCUMENT. $100,000 or$4,000 a crossing. Two hours on Google map. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Project # 100066742 FY 2017 Project Description DEVELOPMENT OF NEW RAILROAD CROSSING DESIGN GUIDELINES $25,000 (GUESS FRA--FHWA--etc...are nincompoops) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++   Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 December 2017 For example Project # 100065224 in Alabama-- Fiscal year 2016$500 (in thousands) Project Description SPECIAL RAILROAD CROSSINGS SURVEY FOR FY2016 AND FY2017. Duh, aren't we paying the Feds/state big bucks already for the RAILROAD CROSSINGS SURVEY's? That's $170 per public crossing and Federal safety funds can't be used on private crossings. The crossing latitude/longitude off the FRA inventory can be plugged into Google map for a SURVEY. I can do probably 20 a hour. Pretty good money huh? OR another trick to waste safety funds saving the RRs where the signals aren't?   Name: screwed E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 07 December 2017 Engineers If you want to take advantage of the late mark up after you are coming off your rest days, DO NOT mark off before 0001 if you get back in from a trip where they kept you in the hotel and on a train the first day of your scheduled day off. The IVR system is set up to recognize a mark off at 0001 on your first day off. If you make the mistake of marking off before 0001 when you get in it will screw you out of your right to request late markup. Argued with the crew callers that its not my fault the company kept me in the hotel and out on a train on my first rest day. Not my fault they didn't send me home. My union agreement entitles me to a late markup after my second rest day but they said its too bad because the system is set up to recognize rest days starting at 0001. They wouldn't override it. So again, the company screws you and keeps you out on your first scheduled rest day do not mark off until 0001. Its their fault and they created the problem!   Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 December 2017 cheated Government doesn't count gas price increases into inflation. There's quite a few things left out intentionally. You're absolutely correct getting any increase it's taken away by healthcare costs, Medicare premium increases, Medicare supplement increases, drug prescription cost, or a few extra dollars kicks it into a higher tax bracket etc.... I've been retired nearly 7 years and have yet to have an actual increase other than on paper. All I can say is we are lucky to have our retirement system. It's a livable retirement. It's important to keep the government out of it. Paul Ryan has tried for years to get his hands on it in his tax bill proposals. He wants to cut us back to Social Security levels with the tier that is a SS equivalent. That would reduce it by$400-$600+ a month it would be higher with the spousal stipend. RRB doesn't cost taxpayers one dime, it's totally funded by us & the railroads. Railroads don't want to lose it seeing management & non-union employees are also under RRB. That's why in the past they have fought against government interference along with the unions.   Name: Tony Thompson E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years Posted: 06 December 2017 Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years Posted: 06 December 2017 How in hell would anyone ever get a manager on a recording without the use of an electronic device? Seems to me this should be a violation to the whistle blower policy considering theres no way to get proof. All these contracts the railroads and unions write up are also very misleading and hard to understand. I seriously doubt the contract language would be this mumbo jumbo if they weren't trying to fuck the employees as much as possible. _____________________________________________________________________ THIS IS SPOT ON. I worked for CSX for awhile, when stuff went bad, I started taping. Hundreds of tapes! If they fire you're ass, and they will, (they did mine)!, you need proof! If you don't work there anymore and decide to file a suit, then all tapes are evidence and can be used against CSX, per the mouth of a Claims Agent (turns out, very true). Protect yourself guys, tape these a--holes! Protect yourself, I did, and it works!!!!   Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 06 December 2017 URGENT ALERT - NEW INVESTIGATION TO SAFETY CONCERNS https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-train-safety/growing-length-of-u-s-freight-trains-in-federal-crosshairs-after-crashes-gao-idUSKBN1E01B9 The investigative arm of the U.S. Congress is launching a probe into the safety of increasingly long freight trains being operated by CSX Corp among others U.S. Government Accountability Office https://www.gao.gov/about/contact.html U.S. Federal Railroad Administration https://www.fra.dot.gov/Page/P0244 Goes without saying that this is an opportunity to highlight the various safety concerns among several other issues at CSX. Reach out to whoever you can, keep this story in the eyes and ears of interested parties.   Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years Posted: 06 December 2017 How in hell would anyone ever get a manager on a recording without the use of an electronic device? Seems to me this should be a violation to the whistle blower policy considering theres no way to get proof. All these contracts the railroads and unions write up are also very misleading and hard to understand. I seriously doubt the contract language would be this mumbo jumbo if they weren't trying to fuck the employees as much as possible.   Name: Retired OSHA E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 December 2017 Railroad employees If you want to know more and are interested in the jurisdictional lines agreed upon between the FRA and OSHA it is easy to look it up on line. One site you may like to visit is under the Memorandum of Agreement between the Federal Railroad Administration and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration US Department of Labor. You should find the reading quite interesting and educational as this agreement was put in motion because of conflicts of who would handle whistleblowing cases and protection against retaliation in the work place. It is unfortunate that it is common that the employees of the railroad do not educate themselves on the laws that protect them and the power they have to protect themselves in the work place. Most major industries count on this and usually are right when they play games and gamble with the employees. An ignorant work force is a good workforce for the company. You play right into their hands.   Name: cheated E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 06 December 2017 RRJim If your retired then you should know that all retirement saving plans are formulated on a 3% inflation formula. That is playing it moderately safe. We all know that the government can make or break our entire lives with the stroke of a pen. We are in the middle of that right now! 4% is the safest course of action to make sure you are not going to be in the poor house if the economy tanks, medical insurance companies run rampant again and our new POTUS doesn't tax us to death or end up taking control of our RR retirement, which the feds have been trying to do forever! The feds are never going to tell anyone the whole truth and nothing but the truth. If they were to tell the American people that inflation was higher than 2% then people would expect their social security raises to be treated as the same. Bottom line is, its nice to get a raise. Of course it is, but every time we get one we end up having a chunk of this or that taken out of it. If it isn't medical premiums or out of pocket expenses, it is a raise in our union dues and a work rule change that screws us out of pay or trip rate changes or they agree to add a heavier work load on us to cut jobs. Just like the road crews who are supposed to be working through freight. They have then doing local road switching work and cut local road jobs out. We have never ever had a raise that didn't come with a price. As far as Im concerned 4% is bullshit if they are going to keep pinching out of it every time!   Name: LAW E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 December 2017 Other You are wrong. OSHA does have authority to inquire and follow through on complaints that are violated within the state. The railroad is not a federal owned/operated agency. It is regulated by the Federal government. They are held accountable under the same laws and standards as any other civilian business. If they are violating state or federal laws regulated by OSHA you can file a report with the agency. In reference to the violations of FRA law 240.231 that have been posted on here several times, if you feel that your respective FRA representatives are not following through on your complaints, you can request a review with the USDOT. FRA agents are not exempt from following their laws and regulations as well. Intimidation by your supervisors to violate federal law is not a laughing matter. If you are still having these problems then you need to make sure you get solid proof that you are being ordered to violate these laws. A recorded conversation on your phones or orders over railroad radio communications as well as having several witnesses to the conversation is a good start. DOCUMENT,DOCUMENT,DOCUMENT! Exact times, places, names and the exact conversation as you can best remember is imperative. Do not worry about radio conversations being removed/erased. You can not expect change if you do not take the proper action. Posting on this site may bring the violations out in the open but there will be nothing done if you do not follow through with the proper charges. 240.11-A person who violated any requirement of this part( ex:crew member) or causes the violation (ex:railroad supervision) of any such requirement is subject to a civil penalty of at least$839 and not more than $27,455 PER VIOLATION, except that: Penalties may be assessed against individuals only for willful violations(supervisions constant intimidation of crew members) and, where a grossly negligent violation has created an imminent hazard of death or injury to person, or has caused death or injury, a penalty not to exceed$109,819 per violation may be assessed. Each day a violation continues shall continues a separate offense. A person who knowingly and willfully falsifies a record or report required by this part may be subject to criminal penalties under 49 U.S.C 21311. After having seen several complaints posted on this site about csx supervisors ordering crews to violate FRA law 240.231 or suffer discipline charges it is not hard to figure out that this is an on going issue and is being done in a willful manner. If was once posted that the violation had been forwarded to an FRA representative. How long ago were these complaint filed? Has anyone received any response from the department? If not has anyone contacted the USDOT? Has anyone filed a charge with their respective Union representation? It is your responsibility to make sure these complaints are followed through with. If several charges are filed you have a better chance of having your complaints brought to the table. An order of protection against retaliation can be issued for a group of employees who come forward to report federal law violations. If necessary you can come together as a group and ask for whistle blower protection. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 06 December 2017 The way I understood it the original RR argument was that FRA took care of ALL safety related issues, and OSHA was excluded. NOW I understand that if FRA acts on a safety issue OSHA stays out, but if no FRA input it belongs to OSHA. So if FRA issue track safety standards it belongs to them, if the diesel shop has fumes it probably belongs to OSHA. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 06 December 2017 OSHA has NO jurisdiction over railroad safety. Your safety is dependent on reports to the FRA. A report to the FRA will result in retaliation. Don't believe me? Try it! 

 Name: RRJim E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 06 December 2017 If inflation by the feds standards is 4% I'd be getting a nice raise with my railroad retirement. But, it isn't. RRB even though it has nothing to do with Social Security our increase is based on it. It's closer to the 2%. We'll get some kind of increase not much. 3 out of the past 6 years we didn't get anything because the feds said there was no inflation or it was so low it was like .06%. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 05 December 2017 Re: Dumbfounded Well said, but like always you have to hit pocket books first. There's no one going to take a stand until it's too late. 

 Name: Dumbfounded E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 05 December 2017 Idiots!!!! Do you morons not understand that the FRA can fine you for violating FRA LAWS/REGULATIONS? Do you never listen to your LC or co workers when they talk about this. Some stupid idiot is at this moment running a train on a territory they are not qualufied on because the conductor is and volunteered to be the pilot after the company asked them too. What part of the FRA law do you not understand that states THE PILOT CAN NOT BE A MEMBER OF THE CREW! It's written in black and white. Do you not understand the FRA is part of the USDOT! Do you make it an everyday thing to violate regulations established by a federal agency? Why are you idiots putting your jobs on the line for the RR! You are so scared of losing your job if you stand up to them but yet you risk having a federal violation charge brought against you. What the hell is wrong with you people. Csx has it in writing for everyone to read that they follow all state and federal laws. Whistleblow! Report the truth. Maybe if the FRA throws a fine in a crews lap it will wake you up! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 December 2017 check out www.rapedatcnrail.com 

 Name: The truth E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 December 2017 Get over it!!! The facts are that none of you will stand together and take your union's on. All you do is whine and cry and talk big but you do nothing. When was the last time any of you went after your elected officials and demanded answers. When was the last time you rallied to remove anyone from office. In the last 10 years, NEVER! You know you won't and you can't do a thing if you don't all stick together. So just suck it up and take what they decide for you because you have no guts and no control. Pay your dues and suck it up. Every week the changes are right in front of your faces. Your work rules are changing and your union's aren't doing a thing about it. It's over. Your losing the battle. Deal with it. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 December 2017 "'No red carpet' when I arrived at CSX Corp" https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/hunter-harrison-no-red-carpet-when-i-arrived-at-csx-corp Hmm I don't know why that could possibly be Ewing...perhaps its the thousand or so you laid off, or the delays and forcing individuals to work the jobs of 5 maybe? You slag... 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 December 2017 50% inflation on out of pocket medical expenses. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 December 2017 4% inflation? Last I read, it was closer to 2% 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 December 2017 I had to repost this from a 10 year Engineer? Inflation 4% ? And dangle some cash, wow what a genius. Took \$1.50 to get rid of the Fireman. Loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 December 2017 IDIOTS No one can blame me. I voted NO for that crappy agreement. The raises are a slap in the face and a joke. Inflation is figured at 4% a year. We aren't getting shit. If I get seriously sick or any of you do I hope you have money saved because your gonna pay for it. All you idiots did was look at a back pay check and the premium cost. Never took a good look at the future. Joke will be on all of us when 2019 rolls around and we end up paying the higher premium anyway. You think it won't happen then you are retarded! They already have it planned for us. They will dangle some cash in front of the jackasses and threaten to raise co pay if you don't take the cash and premium increase. Will you be an idiot again! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 04 December 2017 Me Not to mention the 15% tax cut these corporations are about to get. Law makers say it will be passed on to workers through higher wages. 

 Name: Me E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 04 December 2017 Zbinden Your exactly right. There are no work rules or arbitraries that this company is going to pay. And if we can't get a better contract when the economy is booming then obviously the bargaining power of those arbitraries ain't crap. I for one worked 203 hours in the month of November..i certainly didn't make the equivalent of 12 grand last month. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 December 2017 Norfolk Southern Corp. is making Hunter Harrison look extremely stupid. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 December 2017 Jgw, They SHOULD pay it within 60 days. 

 Name: JG Wentworth. I want it now! E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 04 December 2017 Anybody know how long it takes to get retroactive pay? 

 Name: harrassed E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 December 2017 FRA You are on board with the excessive restrictions of the use of our phones aren't you??? Then you better start doing something about these TMs blowing my phone up with text messages when Im out working a local. When we finished our work and was getting ready to head back I turned my phone on to check and see if I had any messages because I have a sick kid and I had 12 text messages from the TM over the area going nuts wanting to know how we were doing, how much work did we have done, were we going to make it back on time, blah blah blah and then I heard later that the TM made a comment that We were chicken shits because we wouldn't check our phones throughout the day. Well guess what, my phone is never going to be on during the day when Im working and if the company wants to come after me for it you better be prepared to back me when I blow the whistle and file intimidation charges. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 December 2017 Got it that is 1 retarded post. 

 Name: Robert Pines E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 December 2017 Looks like in the precision killing formula it took CSX 3 months less this year to kill the total killed last year minus one death. Which compared to drivers with brains who would have had ONE death in the same miles traveled. CSX Accident/Incident data current through the end of September 30, 2017 Total train miles: 55,136,736 Total fatalities: 96 Switching miles: 9,757,177 Total nonfatal conditions: 423 Employee hours: 33,448,616 55,136,736/96 = 574,341 100,000,000/574,341 = 174 ============================= Accident/Incident data current through the end of September 30, 2016 Total train miles: 62,144,853 Total fatalities: 74 Switching miles: 9,836,819 Total nonfatal conditions: 393 Employee hours: 37,373,557 62,144,853/74 = 839,795 100,000,000/839,795 = 119 =============================== Accident/Incident data current through the end of Dec. 31, 2016 Total train miles: 81,402,062 Total fatalities: 97 Switching miles: 13,005,876 Total nonfatal conditions: 520 Employee hours: 49,082,195 81,402,062/97 = 839,197 100,000,000/839,197 = 119 

 Name: Got it E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 December 2017 Fooled u all!!! Not a single one of you saw the evil plan. How could you not see it. All those guys taking legit fmla just got screwed. The company can't get the abusers with discipline so they got them through the pocket book. They don't work they don't get paid. Now they have higher cost out the pocket. The sad thing is the one who are using it legit are going to suffer for those who abuse it to play games. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 December 2017 Our union leaders should not have ever put that up for a vote. One single contract double our out of pocket. I understand it going up but not double. All the involved unions suck but now I'll guess I switch to the cheapest dues. Fuck you UTU!!! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 December 2017 Yes it could of been a better agreement, but when did the R.R. ever care what you got in any agreement. You just have to put on your Big Boy pants and suck it up. I for one have been at the end of a pick and shovel, worked 100 hour work weeks, I have griped about the conditions at work, but anymore I just throw my hands up and say they have me for 12 hrs. The fun in this job went away a long time ago, now its just a job and a paycheck. 

 Name: Loco E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 December 2017 IDIOTS No one can blame me. I voted NO for that crappy agreement. The raises are a slap in the face and a joke. Inflation is figured at 4% a year. We aren't getting shit. If I get seriously sick or any of you do I hope you have money saved because your gonna pay for it. All you idiots did was look at a back pay check and the premium cost. Never took a good look at the future. Joke will be on all of us when 2019 rolls around and we end up paying the higher premium anyway. You think it won't happen then you are retarded! They already have it planned for us. They will dangle some cash in front of the jackasses and threaten to raise co pay if you don't take the cash and premium increase. Will you be an idiot again! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 December 2017 Unfortunately that terrible contract was ratified. I have to wonder if any of you guys actually read the entire agreement, or just the summary. When you or a family member gets sick your going to find out real quick just how bad this contract is. And only a 9.8% raise which doesn't even cover inflation. Better sock those back pay checks away for your increased health care costs. 

 Name: Retired E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 December 2017 I just signed a pention to stop cameras in loco cabs. They are putting cameras in side shop everywhere. I don’t agree with these cameras. But after a phone was found on crew member that was texting just before horrific crash where dozens lost there life’s. The company was sued and families of victims affected forever. It is always that one incedent that affects everyone. There case is if you don’t have a phone you can’t use it.Stats show now that there are more deaths from cell phone use than people impaired by a substance. I worked at railroad and I answered my phone when I could,but would of been fired if caught. You know how it is,it will never happen to me!!! 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 01 December 2017 Re: Retired Conductor 30 years I appreciate your thoughts and actions on becoming a whistle blower, but it's not that hard. Billingsly has taken a stand for SAFETY and will be singled out as an example to the rest of CSX employees NOT to go this route. This belongs to OSHA, FELA, the UNIONS and many categories protecting employees and the public from those who consider themselves above the laws. MAN UP and back Louis Billingsly any way you can it's going to get tough on him and family. God Bless you Billingsly 

 Name: eh E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 December 2017 the crappy agreement passed and hunter is planning on selling 49% of csx railways. Well, good luck brothers and sisters. Its only gonna get worse from here. 

 Name: Hampton E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years Posted: 01 December 2017 i am curious on what Carolina lines EHH is selling off? As a G&W employee, they are interested in GA, SC (Upstate), and parts of NC. Just didn’t know if anyone knew what EHH meant when said about selling underutilized lines. Put our company name on the tracks! Just looking for a sign... 

 Name: Retired Conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 01 December 2017 To establish whistleblower status document safety or ethics complaints BEFORE hand. Email, off duty,your complaints to the proper authority with a copy to the union. Be respectful, check spelling and grammar,and be specific with times and dates.Be sure that you understand the rules and agreement sections violated. A witness is invaluable if possible. A flood of complaints in each location can't be ignoted. It would be great if the local chairmen would take the lead and coordinate, but if not still follow through. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 30+ years Posted: 01 December 2017 This is what will bring about change. BLOW THE WHISTLE ON THESE PEOPLE. http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/fired-csx-conductor-seeking-whistleblower-protection-changes-within-company/656596333 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 30 November 2017 Maybe a ray of hope, first stage of perhaps Eugene stepping down, maybe his Emphasyma is too much anymore. Dimentia also seems to be creeping in on the old asshole https://www.reuters.com/article/us-csx-succession/csxs-ceo-hunter-harrison-describes-key-step-in-succession-plan-idUSKBN1DT33V 

 Name: Conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 30 November 2017 UP Who gives a crap about SP trash. No way in hell they are dealing with the old man lynch mob we are. The small hand full of men with balls that are left at csx just cant handle them alone. They want rules compliance then give it to them. Everyone knows they will turn a blind eye to breaking rules if they are in trouble and it moves things quicker. You follow the rules and it slows things down your on their hit list. Stick together as a group then it's harder to target and abuse. it's an eye for an eye! The union's aren't going to do squat to stop any head hunting and trumped up charges. 

 Name: Pissed off E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 30 November 2017 Other Doesn't surprise me. They will use those tapes to burn crews just for the hell of it. Already been told they can burn both crew members just by charging them with failure to follow the tattle tale rule. It states you will immediately report any rules violation to a supervisor. We all see the writing on the wall. The old Ingram Nazi crap is coming back and old heads with balls are gone. The ones that helped us stand up and knew what to do. It's headed back to excessive discipline. We all need to start getting a petition going for cruel punishment on the job when you are stuck sitting on a train for hours and you can't nap anymore or read anything but your stinking rule book or use your phone to keep yourself awake. No one should have to sit for hours starring out the window all hours of the night and try to stay awake with the only choice is to read csx propeganda. It doesn't hurt one damn thing to be using your phone to entertain yourself while you wait. If someone is awake and calling stopped every 15 minutes and getting down to watch trains go by then there isn't any reason to worry about safety issues. Be ready for the excessive discipline to start. The nightmare is returning. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 30 November 2017 Xlc Article 44 of the CSRA. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 November 2017 I am off pending physical due to drifting off asleep and it was on the camera, got called short of getting enough sleep. Help each other out when you are tired out there, cause they will use it against you. Also to APE at UP corporate why are you bad mouthing Southern Pacific, it was a great place to work and be proud to work for! 

 Name: Xlc E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 29 November 2017 Cond. 10/20 What the hell are road minutes. Are you kidding. How did the RR run before cell phones? Just fine. Don't be an idiot. Make your calls before you go on duty. You got issues take care of them when you get home or to the hotel. You got an emergency then give someone a heads up before you get on the train. People can call the emergency number if they have to get ahold of you. Just about every train stops at least once. Get off and make your call then. How the hell did people ever live in the past without cell phones....jezz man! 

 Name: Big balls E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 29 November 2017 Where did this Trainmaster David Benson come from? He's the dumbest TM that I've ever seen in my 28 years on the RR. Why is this fat fuck still on the property? If Harrison doesn't fire him then we all have a chance. One dumb son of a bitch. 

 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 29 November 2017 Every train should be demanding road minutes. Take that time to go 25ft from the tracks and use your phones. And make sure you stop your train every time to go piss. 

 Name: UP MANAGEMENT E-mail: corporate@up.com Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 29 November 2017 UP MANAGEMENT TEAM: Corporate America is draining the swamp of sexual predators, perverts and gropers. The last count, UP has at least 20 predators listed. Do the right thing and make UP Responsible Again, before the Southern Pacific baggage destroy your culture! 

 Name: PISSED OFF E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 29 November 2017 THANKS ALOT STUPID IDIOTS!!!!!! WEll now you have gone and done it. Using your phone while the train is running and there are cameras pointing at you from all directions. You want people to understand our problems and the hostile environment we are working in but then you go and act like total retards and get everyone put in the hot seat. What part of the cell phone rules did you not understand. You can only thank yourselves for the jobs that will be lost now. When the cameras were first installed it was stated in a memo that they would not be used to micromanage crews or to head hunt. It was stated very clearly that if an incident occurred that the tapes would only be viewed at the time of the incident. Now not only are they going to view several a month but the new bulletin states that they will view the tapes in more depth if they see something that warrants further investigation. You morons know damn good and well they will use this excuse to view the entire tape and find as many stupid little rules violations or improper train handling rules as they can. They will trump them up and throw the book at us. Don't be reading a newspaper while you are sitting in the sidings. Don't be looking at a magazine. That's a rules violation. Don't pick your nose. Don't drop any trash. Keep the windows shut if the horn is overhead. Wear your safety glasses. Yes that is the rule while in the cab. Thanks a lot morons for making the rest of us more miserable than we are because you couldn't stay off the damn phone while the train was moving. Oh, and if your going to get off the train while it is stopped and walk 25 feet away to use your phone you better inspect as must train as you can while you are stopped. THAT IS THE RULE!!!!