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Safety First

Rule #1 -- Don't get hurt.

    Safety is the first priority. Er, or is it the second, after money.... Or the third after getting the trains out....



Webmaster's note:

Since I go through the server logs regularly, I just thought I'd take this opportunity to point out that all of the comments in defense of the company seem to come from Jacksonville, while complaints come from everywhere that the company does business.

You do the math.



Name: ?
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 February 2018

DISPATCHERS!!!!!

OK its time for you to chime in on this problem. Everyone knows there
are a few of you who read this site everyday, Especially the foamers
and you know who you are..LOL!
 
I am guilty of being one of those people who have used my cell phone to
expedite getting my train out of the yard as quick as I can by calling
the TO desk and the PTC desk to get help. I have done this because I
know Im using my phone to handle an issue related to my job and trying
to just get the train rolling and on the move. After talking with
numerous other conductors and engineers and reading the electronic
device policy I have determined that they are 100% right on the way it
is written and we ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO use it to call for this
assistance. 
So, please tell all of us how you feel about us toning you up and
asking you to patch the PTC or TO desk through to us. No one is sure
how many calls we make across the system to these departments on our
own phones and how many of us violate the policy every day, but our
guess is there are tons of calls made on a daily basis. Just how
distracting and time consuming will this be to you if we all follow the
policy and contact you to have them contact us? I know sometimes it
takes me up to 10 minutes to get a dispatcher to answer and Im sure you
have your reasons but if we are holding a train from departing or have
problems trying to reengage the system after switching on line of road
and we have to call you to do our communication is this going to cause
you more undue stress? Will the TMs take the blame for us departing
late in their yards or will they blame you if you don't answer fast
enough for their liking?  How do you feel about being the sole
communicator between crews and the PTC and TO desk? Just asking for
your opinions on this matter.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 February 2018

SMH


Gonna get CSX in a lawsuit.  That's some funny shit right there.  CSX
doesn't give a damn if they get sued.  They're in the middle of all
kinds of suits and there is a lot more coming.   Google CSX news.   The
Fmla cases are coming.  46 former employees are suing them now.  They
continue to wrongfully terminate men and they know it's going to cost
them and their managers.  When you can pay a man on his deathbed 300
million what's the big deal with some ass hole TM causing suits.

Name: TECH
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 February 2018

LOCO

Loss of radio communication is not a failure of the mobile phone units
to connect properly. You are misinterpreting the rule. That rule was
meant to cover the loss of verbal communication between the crew
members. If the radio malfunctions or the distance becomes to great or
distorted for the engineer and the other crew members to communicate
and do their job safely then personal or company provided cell phones
may be use to continue the communication until the radio can be
replaced or the problem is solved. You can try to use the mobile phone
feature to make contact with the mechanical desk, PTC or the trip
optimizer help desks. There is obviously a problem with this system. It
has been mentioned on this site several times that it is not working
properly or the proper base stations are not up to date in the company
provided timetables. If they don't work then you need to notify the
proper dispatcher and explain the problem. Request that they contact
the proper department and have them contact you on the radio. You are
all correct in the not using your personal phones for making contact
with any of these departments. The
electronic/electrical device policy is very clear on the use of a
personal cell phone and when and WHERE you can use them.
For engineers this may cause a problem. The company has not been
issuing company cell phones to the crews for use. If there is a problem
with an engine that requires the engineer to have to access the rear
compartment of the engine and troubleshoot a problem, the handsets on
the engine radio's are not long enough to reach that distance.
Therefore an engineer may have to run back and forth from the cab to
the repair point. This most likely will be a problem if it is something
that must be handled from the ground. This will be very distracting as
well as inconvenient and time consuming. It would be much better for
everyone concerned if the electronic device policy would be revisited
and rewritten in a manner that would cover these circumstances. The
need for immediate and serious action because of past accidents where
proof that cell phones led to the break down of job duties and safety
and was a contributing factor is the reason the policy was so strict.
The rush to put a policy in place almost always leads to procedural
failures in the language. This apparently has happened. The job duties
of the engineer, the failures of radio/mobile telephone units and the
need to have strict control over the misuse of personal phones while on
duty has frankly created a serious conflict between the crew members
ability to do their jobs efficiently and with trust and still follow
the written policy. Until the policy can be reviewed again at the table
with the company and the FRA do not use your cell phones for
communication with the PTC or TO help desk. Speak with your dispatchers
and follow their instructions. Give it time. CSX and the FRA will see
the conflict and errors in the language of the system bulletin and will
correct it. You have all seen this happen numerous times. Have some
patience.

Name: SMH
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Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 February 2018

Trainmaster David Benson is one of the dumbest cocksuckers that I've
ever met. I can't believe that CSX still has him on the team. That fat
fuck is going to get CSX into a lawsuit.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 February 2018

L&N disp.
Placing a shunt in front of a crossing is done all the time by road way
working on an approach. To keep from activating the gates while they
work, a shunt is placed down and the control circuit activates, then
thinking the shunt is a train deactivates. The circuit can't see down
the approach and the crew works on with no flagman. Occasionally the
crew forgets to remove the shunt and go home. Later, the circuit can't
see an approaching train and kills a driver. See example CSX track in
Fl. Mother and two children killed because of this. I'm surprised you
don't know this!
Now for my instruction. Shunting an approach with a train on the
approach causes no problem, just make sure you remove the shunt after
the test.
Why do you think the company rules forbid shunting unless the circuits
in use are restricted and are not fail-safe?
Don't take my word for, do the test!!!!'  Why would you send a
message out telling people not to make a test that could save lives?
The RRs are using you to cover the illegal use of this control circuit.
The narratives are from Jim Mabes little box of tricks.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 February 2018

Im also a railroader pal I was a trainman that transfered to the
mechanical department. Because I could not be in a safety sensitive
position due to medical condition. Iím in the know about everything
that is going on, I sympathize with your frustration. Lived them all
and I have been to many wrecks,  The reason I posted about rr crossings
so the public might realize the danger they put themselves in and 
traincrews in. Yes technical changes are suppose to help us in our
jobs,but in a lot of times adds extra stress. I have lived threw many
changes over the years on the rr.  But an employee has no choice but to
accept changes or move on.

Name: conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 February 2018

Ape1

I AM a railroader and pissed off is fucking right. You stupid morons
who keep posting your tinker toy crap need your pie holes slapped shut.
I see ignorant morons run the gates every single trip Im on. Wouldn't
matter how effective the gates were or if they came on 1 minute before
you got there. The retards would still run the gates. Screw the gates!
The company crammed the TO down our throats to shave their precious
fuel then they installed the LIFE SAVING PTC down our throats because
some idiots couldn't or wouldn't pay attention to what they were
doing and the FEDS claimed it was going to be the life saver of all
time. Then the feds and CSX put out this policy that states in black
and white we cant use our personal phones to trouble shoot and handle
work related issues and problems with the damn systems. I cant believe
how stupid and ignorant some of the managers are and cant read!  Had 2
run their mouths that no where in the policy did it state we couldn't
use our personal electronic devices for work related issues. we had to
pull out the damn bulletin and show the retards what it said.  We can
use RAILROAD SUPPLIED ELECTRONIC DEVICES TO HANDLE WORK RELATED ISSUES!
No gray areas on the use of personal devices. ONLY IN CASE OF EMERGENCY
OR LOSS OF RADIO COMMUNICATION! You got to get off the damn motor
position yourself away from the nearest rail by 25 feet to use your
personal device. When your don't it has to be turned off stored away
and not on your person. The mobile/phone units are a damn joke. You
cant get half of them to work and almost all the new timetables are
missing bases for subdivisions. We tried for several hours throughout
our trips this week to get them to work. No tone back. NO responses.
Total bullshit. Where the hell is the safety in this!  WE have all
agreed, if the PTC isn't working right we will tell the dispatcher and
he can have the PTC call us on our radios. If they don't get through or
cant handle the flood of calls we can just turn the thing off!   GOOD
RIDANCE!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 February 2018

Cost  ten billion dollars to install PTC for American railways. A huge
undertaking and sounds like the system when complete. Could cause a lot
of real big headache to have continuity in the system. The maintance
costs to maintain it is going to be huge cost for the railways. That is
why they keep getting extensions.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 February 2018

Hey ďpissed off ďgo back in the basement and play with your train set.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 February 2018

Concerned citizen

It's obvious you're not a railroader. Railroad takes a person a lot
of places during their career. They get to see & do a lot. I didn't
correct anyone only stated the facts.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 February 2018

L&N Dispr

You're correct on the real Dave Nelson. There's someone posing as
Dave. He made a mistake a few days ago by stating he screwed up a
switch this year in January. Dave Nelson left CSX around 22 years ago.

Name: Loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 February 2018

Karma 

The rule says you can use your phone in cases of emergency and loss of
radio communication.I would think that the telephone communication on
the radio in the cab failing to work would be considered a failure in
proper communicstion and you would then be able to use your phone to
call the PTC help desk. That's exactly how it should be viewed since
the PTC is considered a serious safety device by the FEDS! I don't see
a gray area here.  That's the way the rule is written. Let them try and
write me up for using my personal phone when I've tried using the
radio's phone feature and it fails. They can view their tapes all they
want to see if I tried. Just another federal charge to bring against the
company for failure to keep safe and adequate radio /mobile phone
communication  up and running!

Name: L&N dispr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 February 2018

Crazy Comer, don't you have an ambulance to chase down to make some
quick blood money?  Now go play with your little CB, good buddy...

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 February 2018

The worst thing are the radios so mush noise on them esp when it comes
from the transmitter on the engines, plus the rr,s use signal
maintainers instead of people who have radio commutations license to
repair and maintain the radios.

Name: Other Bob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 February 2018

L@N proper authorities the other goof ball pretenders like you?
There are no PROPER authorities just weasel dick clowns LIKE YOU.

Now go play with your tinker toys.

Name: L&N dispr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 February 2018

RE: T&E crews,

I highly recommend that no crew takes it upon themselves to put a shunt
down in front of their train approaching a xing,  as Dave Nelson
suggest.. This is a rule violation.  If you suspect there is a problem
with the xing, notify the proper authorities.

If this is the real Dave Nelson, you should know better to tell a crew
to do this...

Name: Dave Nelson
E-mail: Nelson284@juno.com
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 February 2018

Re: Concerned citizen
Out of respect for your post I will answer your questions briefly.
Q: seems like there are larger more dangerous things looming?
A: The answer is that train Drailments and crossing accidents will
climb dramatically without exposure to those responsible.
To protect yourself and family, stop and look at ALL railroad
crossings. You are supposed to trust the warning systems completely.
Actually they were fail-safe but we replaced this device with one that
fails. Motive? Massive fraud by railroads
To keep informed monitor the expenditures and purpose of the
Transportation Infrastruture Improvements. One to start with is the
PTC. This thing must be miraculous, every accident could have been
prevented by this component according to railroads and FRA.  See who
ends up paying for it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 February 2018

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/runaway-trains-almost-triple-reported-rate-cbc-finds-1.2448494

Name: Dave Nelson
E-mail: Nelson284@juno.com
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 February 2018

Train crews

Before you start second guessing me, get some guts and crawl off your
engine and do the same test I just gave to the FRA, NTSB  and CSX Chief
Engineer.

When you are stopped short of a crossing, walk to the crossing and
jumper the track 80 to 100ft from the crossing. Build speed past 3mph
toward the crossing then post your results on this safety site. If
you're not a part of the solution you must be a part of the problem! 
DO THE TEST!!!!!!! it just might save your life.

Name: Dave Nelson
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 February 2018

Federal Railroad Administration (FRA)
National Transportation Board (NTSB)
Carl Walker CSX Chief Engineer of Signals

Perform this test to show failure of crossing warning system:

1.Take track authority and properly flag a crossing.
The signal that activates the lights and gates are on the tracks. When
the tracks are shorted by a trains wheels the lights flash and gates
drop. A jumper wire shorting the tracks acts the same as a trains
wheels. The start point of a warning system is far enough down the
approach to activate lights and gates giving a driver a minimum of 20
seconds warning time. This is in accordance to the laws you are not
enforcing.
2. Use a jumper capable to short the track 80ft. From the crossing
edge.
3. The lights and gates will activate understanding the cable is a
train.
4. The lights and gates will remain activated for a few seconds, then,
they will deactivate thinking the jumper cable is a stopped train on
the approach. 
5. Now run a train down the approach. The train will NOT start the
warning system until it crosses the first cable at 80ft  or from a
vehicle being struck by the train.
6. What does an unsuspecting driver see? Google UTA Fed Ex train
accident. The narriatives provided to the public are false.
7. A jumper cable would be detected in a signal territory, but by
viewing the UTA Fed Ex accident you will see snow, ice, rain and other
track conditions act the same as a cable NOT being detected by the
Signal System.
Dave Nelson
02-23-18
CSX Crossing and Signal Design Engineering
Nelson284@juno.com  For questions or comments

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 February 2018

Radios most likely donít work right, because the. Rr has not installed
or maintained the repeaters. Remember cost cuts to drive shares up.
Start writing your congressman about safety issues.

Name: Carman
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 February 2018

Iíve been to lots of wrecks in my career,seen it all. We have the same
rules with personal phones. I always carried my cell phone. And if I
had to use it in an emergency I would and deal with the non- sense
later.

Name: Pissedoff
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 February 2018

Carman 

God man. Please stop. Might as well have that pines signal crossing nut
back! Hazmat train wrecks. Crude oil train wrecks. Rear end collisions. 
Why do you think they passed the PTC program. Now the crews are turning
it off because the company and the FRA has written some stupid phone
rules that don't allow them to call for help with problems on their
phone?  Then their radios don't work right. When it comes to safety
this issue way trumps your signal problems. A person gets killed at a
crossing that's bad. A train rearends another train loaded with
dangerous cars and catches on fire that's a hell of alot worse! Let's
get our priorities straight!

Name: 
E-mail: Carman
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 February 2018

There is all kinds of education out there about RR crossings. Railway
police go to schools and talk about it to kids. Driver training courses
warn about RR crossings. They should never happen if people just pay
attention. To this day science has not found a cure for STUPID.

Name: Carman
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 February 2018

Iím not defending the railway,I have my 1A drivers licence ,school bus
needs a. 2 garabage truck with air brakes 3A In short your a
professional driver, and if the arms are defective , it is still your
duty to look both ways. A school bus has to stop at all rr crossings.
These crossing accidents should never happen if a professional driver
does there due diligence.

Name: L&N dispr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 February 2018

Comer: pretty much proof positive you don't know what you are talking
about.  Looks like you are LYING AGAIN.  YOU DID NOT do the
investigation, so shut up ...

Name: Other Bob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 February 2018

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/HWY18MH005-prelim.pdf

Pretty much proof the NTSB is about as corrupt as it gets. Magic
witnesses appear after 3 weeks--Video disappears for three weeks. No
mention of the skewed, humped, drop offs that would hang up Big Foot,
missing barriers around gate posts, why a uphill train would be going
61 mph in a 60 mph zone after seeing a big frickin truck across the
tracks for 10 seconds (1.46667x10 seconds truck clears)--interviews
with bus garage--- Just look at gate--lights--street paint (feet out of
MUTCD standards) This even legal? Do any of them have a clue on how
signals DON'T WORK?

CSX took over crossing ownership January 3rd. Night trains.
FORM FRA F 6180.71 (Rev. 3/15) 01/03/2018  
line 16. Crossing Owner (if applicable) CSX
2.E. Low Ground Clearance Sign  Yes (count 4)
7. Smallest Crossing Angle  0į Ė 29į 
9. Regularly Used by School Buses? Yes --Average six per day.
1.B. Total Night Thru Trains (6 PM to 6 AM) --2

Name: Herp
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 February 2018

OZZBURNT
That is the best idea I have ever heard. Next time sum it up so people
will actually read it. Nobody wants to read a 10 page novel. It is a
great idea though.

Name: L&N dispr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 February 2018

Concerned citizen, 

Dave Nelson does not work for CSX anymore.  He was a whistleblower
about 22 years ago against CSX.  So, I don't know who would have made
that post.  RRJim, you were right to point that out about the
Buckingham Branch.  I almost went there to help dispatch their
territory.

Name: Carman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 February 2018

Hh Foote ceoís Like them are not spending money on signal crossings
track maintance,they are doing the bare minimum on all rr maintance.
Cut the jobs of people that use to maintain this work. They save
millions of dollars on wages material etc. And maintance only gets
performed on infrastructure when it is totally necessary. The goverment
looks the other way. With all the money not spent, if there is an
accident and they have to settle a few law suits, they are still ahead
financially. It is a shame that the goverment is not more concerned
about public safety. And what I witness when Hh took over cn and cp. 
He pushed the envelope further and further testing the goverment and
got away with everything. Hh did exactly what ever he wanted and the
goverment hid there heads in the sand. These goverment inspectors are x
railroaders recommended by the railroads, for filling the goverment
jobs. They are just tokens that,really canít change anything. Iím not
blaming the people I know some personally I blame the way the system is
designed.

Name: Concerned citizen
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 February 2018

Dave Nelson 

You have been corrected by the man who has seen and done it all(rrjim).
Good job on standing your ground on signal fraud and the scams that lead
to accidents and death.  Your point was well made and it wasn't
necessary for you to be corrected on that post. From what I'm reading
on here it sounds like something bigger and more dangerous is brewing. 
This crap with the crews not being able to use their phones to correct
problems with the PTC and just turning the system off by orders of the
dispatchets scares the crap out of me and my family! What the hell is
wrong with CSX and the FRA. Is this crazy insane behavior an everyday
occurance with CSX. Radios on the engines don't work half the time? 
Is this crap for real. How come the FCC is not all over this. Maybe
it's time for all of us to start lobbying for full federal takeover
and regulation of the railroads or at least CSX.

Name: Carman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 February 2018

Some one posted on here,that the tm adjusted  pistons. Iím assuming he
meant piston travel on amtrack cars. For one thing the tm is not
trained or certified to do this. They do not understand how a slack
adjuster works or the brake system. I hope the train crew record this
when, people that are not certified to do this work. Are reporting to
you they are. Are they fuckng crazy. No wonder Amtrak has so many
issues. There are lots of reasons for piston travel being to long. And
tm etc do not know what to look for or understand the brake mechanics.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 February 2018

Dave Nelson

The Crozet AMTRAK/trash truck incident was on the Buckingham Branch
Railroad not CSX. BBRR has leased the line from CSX since around 2003.
BBRR is responsible for maintaining crossings. I worked for BBRR
through Manpower as an outside contractor for 4 1/2 years after
retiring from CSX. They have their own signal department. I ran that
line with the C&O then CSX from 1984-2000. CSX does route some coal &
grain MTY trains over that line. BBRR is a mon-fri 0600-1600 shortline
railroad running just locals. They have 6 AMTRAKS (3 east & 3 west) 3
days a week. It's a quiet railroad.

Name: Engineer 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 February 2018

Corp. 

Just had that problem a few days ago. Had a problem with the PTC
engaging properly. Stupid yardmaster kept trying to rush me out of the
yard. Told him 3 times I was working on it. He then wanted to know if i
called them. Told him straight out on the radio that we aren't allowed
to use our phone's by the rules. He then said to go without it. Told 
the dispatcher and he said ok, then turn it off. So see, know one gives
a crap about your PTC. your phone rule trumps the PTC rule. Why did the
feds and csx waste the money on it.

Name: OZZBURNT
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 February 2018

The 2 greatest factors in 94.2% (I made that number up on the spot) of
accidents in most industries are distractions/loss of focus, or fatigue
and fatigue is one of the major causes of distractions/loss of focus.
Other factors can cause a loss of focus, like use of a cell phone,
listening to music while working, horseplay, issues in our lives
outside of work like health or family problems, etc. 

Not sure how to completely eliminate all of these factors, but fatigue
could be greatly reduced without changing very much at all.

Anyone that is subject to being called into work knows that a lot of
times you sit around waiting on a call that never comes and then
finally when you are tired and ready to sleep you get the call.

If we were to have our extra boards divided by 4 and your bid was for a
time slot then fatigue would be nearly eliminated. 

Example: An extra board has 16 people on it so 4 bids would be for
0600-1400, 4 bids would be for 1400-2200, 4 bids would be for 2200-0600
and 4 bids would be available for call any time. No 2 people on any one
slot would have the same days off. This would work to reduce fatigue
and improve your overall quality of life and health, you could also
plan appointments or family functions, and so much more. 

This would not negatively impact availability of manpower to CSX
because they would have available to them 4 people per 8 hour time slot
and up to an additional 4 people from the 24hr slot. If both are
exhausted then they would revert to calling the first out rested from
the other 2 time slots. 

This model could be modified to fit specific needs, for example each
time slot could be adjusted to different hours and furthermore each
slot could be staffed according to needs, maybe more people for the
busiest time slot, and less for the slot with lighter needs.

My sole purpose in writing this is to hopefully get the attention of
people system wide and possibly with a glimmer of hope get people
thinking about it so maybe, just maybe the ball can start rolling on
this idea or any variation similar.

In my opinion, had a proposal like this been presented in our contract,
we would have been better of than with anything we got and it doesn't
in any way hurt CSX for manpower.   

Thank you for your time in reading this, I know it was more than most
would like to read on here but I do appreciate it.

P.S. An added bonus would be that most of us would call in sick less
because there are times that we have to call in sick because we are
tired or have something going on that we can't miss.

Name: Carman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 February 2018

My issue reading these, rules that you canít use your phone in the cab
even if you are ordered to,you are safe in the cab. If you have to get
out of the cab and be twenty five feet away from the cab. Puts a person
in harms way,because you are distracted while on the phone and if you
break the plain of the rail you could get hit by a train next to your
track. What if you have to write information down would you not be
better in the cab. What ever happened to common sense and safety first.

Name: Hogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 February 2018

Corp.

Are you fricking kidding me. LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!  I've tried I don't
know how many times to use the phone feature on the radios and only had
it actually work maybe 3 times.those instructions in the timetables are
fricking Greek and don't help explain crap.  As for getting off the
power to use my phone for the help desk..sure I can do that and after I
talk to them I got to turn it back off before I get back on the power
with the way the rule is written. Get back off the power call them back
the do the same crap again. Back and forth. The PTC and the TO people
are doing to freak the hell out we start doing that shit. Does the FRA
even know we aren't using the PTC because we can't call them on our
phone's and your not providing us with a company cell phone?  Millions
were spent on getting this PTC in place for safety and to prevent train
crashes and we're turning it off because we can't call for help with
our phone's while we're in the cab. I don't think THE feds know
what's going on our here! Time to let the car out of the bag!

Name: Oper. Rules
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 February 2018

ALL LOCOMOTIVE OPERATORS 

READ THE USE OF ELECTRONIC AND ELECTRICAL DEVICE RULE 1000.1! 
There is absolutely no gray area in this rule in regards to the use of
a PERSONAL DEVICE. YOU MUST BE OFF THE LOCOMOTIVE AND AT LEAST 25 FEET
AWAY FROM THE NEAREST RAIL INCLUDING ADHERING TO THE OTHER STATED
CONDITIONS. 

THE EMPLOYEE AT THE CONTROLS OF A LOCOMOTIVE MAY USE A "RAILROAD
SUPPLIED ELECTRONIC DEVICE OR ELECTRICAL DEVICE" FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES
AFTER ALL STATES CONDITIONS ARE MET.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE YOUR PERSONAL DEVICE/CELL PHONE!!! IT MUST BE A
RAILROAD SUPPLIED DEVICE. YOU CAN NOT CALL THE PTC HELP DESK OR THE
TRIP OPTIMIZED DESK WITH YOUR CELL PHONE UNLESS YOU ARE OFF THE
EQUIPMENT. THEREFORE IN ORDER TO STAY IN THE CAB TO TROUBLESHOOT THE
ONLY OPTION YOU HAVE IS TO USE THE LOCOMOTIVE RADIO UNITS TELEPHONE
FEATURE. YOU CAN FIND THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE IN YOUR SUBDIVISION
TIMETABLES. IF YOU ARE UNSUCCESSFUL OR THE RADIO UNIT IS NOT EQUIPPED
YOU MUST REPORT THE INCIDENT TO THE APPROPRIATE DISPATCHER. 
AGAIN, YOU MUST NOT USE YOUR PERSONAL DEVICES IN THE CAB OF THE
LOCOMOTIVE UNLESS IT IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION OR YOU HAVE LOST RADIO
COMMUNICATION. IF A SUPERVISOR ORDERS YOU TO USE YOUR PERSONAL DEVICE
TO CONTACT THEM OR CALL ANY HELP DESK YOU ARE TO BE OFF THE EQUIPMENT
AND ADHERE TO ALL RULES STATED IN THE RULES PUBLISHED UNDER 1000.1.

Name: Dave Nelson
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Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 February 2018

Federal Railroad Administration & National Transportation Board

Amtrak/ Trash Truck/ Congressmen accident.
FRA you presented to me all posts I have made on this site for years
wanting me to verify they were my posts. You may want to save this
one.
The CSX Signal Department knows you work in partnership with railroads
for economic protection.
We ran an Amtrak into a trash truck loaded with half our Congress.
There are only three options as a cause as we see it.
1. The trash truck driver was stuck,  stopped or stalled on the
crossing with gates down, lights flashing and horn blowing for thirty
seconds prior to being hit by Amtrak.
2. The truck driver  ignored the warnings and crashed through a down
gate and head ended an Amtrak one second away.
3. The lights and gates failed to activate in time to warn the truck
driver of an approaching train.
FRA & NTSB, why has number three never been reported on? I have met
with you, NTSB and USDOT on failed warning systems. The lights and
gates are known to fail in activating. The control circuits are being
used illegally and lead to many deaths and infuries yet the FRA, NTSB,
Amtrak and CSX remain deadly silent. 
Dave Nelson
01-22-18
CSX Signal Engineering
nelson284@juno.com

Name: Carman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 February 2018

When the safety culture gets put on the back burner, because it slows
down production. There will be more accidents to come in all
departments. With this mantle ridge crowd it is all about money. People
can be replaced. Again they will just find a few scape goats.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 February 2018

Lined and locked into our track. Maybe he had a brain fart and just
tapped out. It looked ok at the time!!!!

Name: Other Bob
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 February 2018

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Pages/RSR1801.aspx
...The engineer of the stopped CSX train had exited the lead locomotive
before the Amtrak train entered the siding, ran to safety, and was not
injured. The conductor of the CSX lead locomotive saw the Amtrak train
approaching in the siding and ran to the back of locomotive. The
conductor was thrown off the locomotive and sustained minor
injuries...
Looking off overpass 33.9049711,-81.0668294

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/RRD18MR003.aspx

With no time to run or hide with maybe time for a "oh shit" --How did
the CSX crew know to run and hide unless they knew the switch was
screwed?

Name: BillyL
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 February 2018

but not limited to, damages for back pay and benefits, front pay,
compensatory damages, punitive damages, out of pocket expenses,
liquidated damages, contributions to fringe benefits including pension
and retirement,  and all other damages recoverable under the above laws
plus prejudgment and other interest. Court cost. Fees and attorney
fees.

This is what we're going after.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 February 2018

Wonder what ever happened to the Safety First campaign, that the
railways pushed so hard. I guess they canít afford it no more with all
the cuts. Like cutting Hh a check for 84 million.

Name: Dave Nelson
E-mail: Nelson284@juno.com
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 February 2018

RRJIM
Thanks for the post.
I too was targeted by CSX for Drailing an Amtrak that killed 8 people.
The Assistant Chief Engineer Signals (Hugh Hopkins) falsely accused me
for not having an M23A switch machine to replace a worn out hand throw
switch. We split the switch killing 8.
My Director CJ Nicely had repeatedly cancelled my orders for a new M23A
Switch to force Signal Supervisors to send old switches in for repair,
saving money to the budget.
I was kicked out of the Head Quarters Building by Hopkins. 
I told Bryan Tucker (VP Corporate Communications) by phone on 01-04-18
and reported this. I had been wrongfully terminated and my work carreer
destroyed. Bryan told me he would have some one look into this.  Today
is 02/22/18, and no response from CSX.
Makes one wonder about the true cause of running an Amtrak into a CSX
train doesn't it?

Name: Carman
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 February 2018

I put my thirty five years in,and back in the day the running trades
union was nothing to mess with. They where not scared to shut the
railway down , or work to rule. Guys stood together. And management
wanted no trouble and things where worked out pretty fast. What I found
with this gang is. They will fire as many as it takes to make a point,
even if it left them short of staff. They figured out how to manipulate
all the data to make themselves look good. They know what they have to
do to get themselves big payday at the expense of everyone else. Hh was
great for the shareholders, but it was criminal some of the things he
pulled off and people lost there lives. Working for the rr today is a
high stress job. And is not for everyone.

Name: DSW
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 February 2018

It's good you girls got a big pay out.  Will be needing it to pay
lawyer fees,court cost and damages.  For your role in the Fmla wrongful
termination.   Most likely you girls will be let go too.  After carrier
turns its back on you ladies.


Management MICP bonus payout is 159% this year. Thank you for all your
hard work and dedication!

Name: RRJim
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 February 2018

Oldstories

LOL! So, we had 4 people onboard a train with a caboose. I was a
locomotive engineer only had one person with me on the head end just
like today. Drinking? It happened the railroads were lax back then. It
took one person to end it that was Ricky Gates. He ran a Conrail light
set of engines into the side on an AMTRAK and there were fatalities. He
sold us out for a lighter prison sentence testifying in front of
Congress that railroaders were alcoholics & drug addicts. It was a
crock of crap. 

I never brought any of what you said up. I only stated you people
signed up to do a job. If you have to work a lot, so what!!!!! That's
what railroaders do. 

Don't like it quit. People quitting the railroad has gone on forever.
It's not a job for everyone never has been. If your generation thinks
you can change it Good Luck.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

Trainmaster 

You are welcome!

Name: 
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Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 February 2018

The guy running CSX are the same people, that put office staff in front
of the controls of trains ,when they needed that train to move. They
where not going to recall anyone and screw up the numbers of operating
ratio. And if you protest in any way it will give them more reason to
put management in front of the controls. Ceo creel an American trained
by Hh. Said on camera that he is not taking that practice of using
office staff to run trains off the table.  When they go to negotiate
the new contract. When he used management to run trains everyone went
to work as normal. Even shared the same cab of the train with them. I
posted the video on here once and it showed how they fast tracked
training them with a simulator. You think your going to have a wild cat
strike. And stop them itís been done and they fired the organizers of
the wildcat strike. I hope your right that they wonít use management.
Why do you think Foote would change his tactics just because he is in
USA. These ceo,s that work for these hedge funds could care a less
about contracts and bargaining in good faith. You are all just a tool
to make them money. I had four years of it under Hh. No one stepped
into stop the practice of it, not the union or goverment. It was
business as usual.

Name: 
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Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

Management MICP bonus payout is 159% this year. Thank you for all your
hard work and dedication!

Name: VL
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

Brakeman 

We've had this discussion. If CSX even thinks of giving our jobs to
management and crosses our union agreement in that manner we will stop
our dues from coming out of our checks. If we have to picket the yard
and take it to the press so be it. That violation is one of the worst
and down right nasty dirty shit in the history of union's in the USA!
Alot of us have family members who have union blood in them and I'll
tell you now the ones from the hills of Kentucky and the coal mines
will talk to the press and who knows what else. My family has already
said enough is enough with this crap. This violation will be hell to
pay.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

Same old pukes always take calls that they don't have to, screwing guys
out of work and helping the company "trim fat"

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 February 2018

This could be safety issue,when the traffic picks up and they start
calling people back,but cannot give them gaurentee how long they will
work. Lots wonít take recall. So they will start using managers to run
trains. Just like Hh did at cp cn. Time will tell if this happens

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 February 2018

Well Genz,
A Conductor, for Less than 1 year - needs to be able to live without
the RR.

Name: Genz
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 February 2018

0311
HVAc man
BSN
 
Unlike you retards I can live without the RR.


Generation Z.

Name: XLC
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

Avon engineers 

Quit taking the damn roster calls. What the f..ck is wrong with you.
Don't cry like little punks when you can't get an extra day off.  Are
you just retarded!

Name: Gems and real men
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 February 2018

Stop calling me a snowflake and mangina.I will get my mom to go to hr
and put a complaint in. If I have to bring my mommy to work with me
your going to be in trouble. And if I donít like my twig and berries
thatís my business. And it offends me when you sit in the cab with your
legs open.It makes me have those feelings when I see you  sit like
that.So stop it it makes me feel fuzzy all over my body.

Name: Sickofwaiting
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

bickering idiots 
Stop your damn immature fighting. What we all need is for this damn
horse and pony show to be over with. Get their damn changes done. UNION
isn't going to be able to a thing about structural changes. It's not
in their jurisdiction. Got no say. Just cut the jobs, the people  and
start the damn super pools. It's coming. Accept it.  I got 4 years
left and I want this crap over with so I can see what's left for us
after the devils right hand destroys everything. Decide if I want to
ride it out or get the hell out. Unions are behind anything that pads
their pockets. Just want this shit over with. Young bucks who just
hired in got plenty of time to adjust. I'm getting to old for this
shit. Got no time to deal with management and the union's using the
agreement as an IOU!  Their in the same bed.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 February 2018

Itís been over a couple weeks now that a big wreck involving CSX has not
been in the news yet?with employee fatigue and maintance cut backs
should be a regular thing to hear about wrecks. The first year that Hh
was ceo of cnr they had more wrecks  in such a short period of time Hh
was on the news weekly about his safety record and all the fatalities
under his watch. CSX should follow with Foote because he was at cnr
with Hh at the time.

Name: Cool mo D
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

Gen Z I bet you still live with your parents and when you go to the
Walmart you get really confused on which restroom to use. Here's a
clue if you got a set of nutz go in the men's fuck wad

Name: GenZ
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Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 February 2018

I like puppies.  Coloring books are nice too.

Anyone who has a name like real men must be trying to compensate for
something.

Name: Real men
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

New generation maybe we can put teddy bears and coloring books or maybe
a puppy on the locomotives for you crybaby mother fucks or how about a
Transgender bathroom give me a break asslick

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

I can't wait to read about the Fmla suits being filed.   Company and
supervisors being held accountable.  You men deserve every nickel you
get.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

Yeah, quitting the RR use to be unheard of, why, because it WAS a great
job. Now the RR pretty much sucks so don't preach about how it was so
hard and it's a cake job now, I think you have it backwards. We would
love for the RR to go back to how it was in the old days. Hell we use
to be able to stay displaced if we wanted, or work a shift, take a nap
in the car and hit it again if we wanted. Before, 5 years seniority
wasn't bad and anyone with 10 plus had a choice of several jobs, now
it takes about 10 years to hold an extra board spot.

Name: Monty Burns
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Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

I'm seeing people quit left and right. This used to be a job no one
EVER quit. It's going to be just another revolving door shit show
McJob. Even looking for something for myself. F@&# Mantle Ridge, these
clowns don't even know the pointy end of a spike. Y'all can rot in
Hell with your boy HH.

Name: Current generation
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 February 2018

Why do people want to let everyone know how "hard" it was, how
"rough" it use to be? Who cares? It's so annoying, quit crying about
how it was so hard and guys now days have it so easy, who cares? You
"old timers" must think you were so tough and anyone born after 1980
has it made. Again who cares? Most old heads I have talked to always
say it use to be a great job and it has gotten worse, they also talk
about how you could get away with anything and it was very uncommon to
get fired, now you get fired for sneezing the wrong way. Shut up and
quit looking for a shoulder to cry on. You make the older generation
look like a bunch of whining brats.

Name: Unionscrewed
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

Crews 
It's been in the union agreements for over 20 years that the company
will keep enough people hired to cover vacation days, personal
days,scheduled rest days, Dr appts,sick mark off and request for
personal business. They have not only constantly ignored this but the
union's have done absolutely nothing to put up a good fight. They
keeps the extra boards so short knowing people will have off days on
the pools and yard jobs that it will be impossible to give anyone a PB 
day. Then because of shortages they reduce caps and again violate the
agreements. Then they run the rosters to find someone to work and the
idiots step up and help them out. Money hungry greedy self centered
fools that don't realize they are doing nothing but making the
situation worse. When one of them want a day off for PB and dont get it
they are the first to cry like  little b.tches. I can't tell you how
many times I have heard one of them say...screw these assholes. This is
the last time I ever do them a favor Then they turn around and do it
again. the union's are on the way out. They have no fight any more.
Just pockets lined with money. They can count on the members not having
any balls and kissing the companies ass. They know they won't unite.
Fill their pockets and kiss butt. Time to rename the unions. UFPAAK.
UNION FOR PROFIT AND ADD KISSERS! I'm tired of paying 1200 bucks a
year for this crap.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 February 2018

For those that missed it.

https://www.ble-t.org/pr/news/headline.asp?id=48545


More lawsuits to come.  Let your manager know he could be next to be
sued.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 February 2018

On my 40th year. I was always a heavy hitter. Worked a lot, made a lot
of money. Always tried to stay healthy, got my rest whenever able to,
tried to get decent exercise. Now as I look at retirement next year, I
wonder how I did it? Sooooo many times running trains at high speed
drifting in and out of sleep. looking over at the Conductor snoozing
away. Dying to get done so I could go sleep. Meeting myself coming and
going. And even so after 40 years of this madness, NOBODY of any
authority is taking the fatigue problem seriously! Now we have inward
facing camera's (reason I no longer work the road) I could never
survive in this environment! Anytime I stopped at a Stop Signal, feet
went up, laid back, shut my eyes until Conductor alerted me to a better
signal. Those little naps are what made the difference. Now you can't
even do that anymore. The idiots who run these railroads are not
helping us one bit! I have NO SYMPATHY for the carriers when they get
sued for millions and lose. They create these unsafe conditions and
they fight anyone who tries to address the problems.

Name: Carman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 February 2018

I retired last year from cprail as a carman. It was a great career for
thirty five years. My last four years was working with ceo Hh. He
destroyed the railway culture, before Hh management and employees got
along helped each other and solved problems. The employees under Hh
where treated like the enemy. And managers fired you for anything. With
creel as ceo trainer by Hh same thing to this day. I watch this site
after Hh took over CSX. I have to agree with the last poster that it is
just a job now. The old culture is gone and it is not the great job it
once was  Itís them against us now. Spread sheets profit share
value,and employees are just a liability. Companies concerned about 
work family life balance is gone. We where making headway with that Hh
shut it down. You have Foote running the place same shit as Hh
different pile. Like I said work save your money donít go into new det.
Watch your back. I donít think things will change now but , get out of
CSX what you can for your benefit. Good luck. I donít miss it after
working for Satan hh.

Name: oldstories
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

RRJIM


Heard them all. All the old heads did when I got hired was talk how
they were super humans,,, blah blah.  Had 5 mean on the crews. Had a
caboose to ride around in . Always had a jug of whiskey. Stayed in old
shacks along the way. My personal favorite was stories about taking
supervisors who harassed and dogged you out back and strip them down
naked and tie them to their cars! Breaking the knee cap days are over.
We would be arrested and do jail time now if we thought of doing that. 
That's why there were a bunch of half drunk has beens out there. Had to
have 5 to watch each others drunk asses. we decided as well as the feds
that enough was enough. Leave that shit for the prison chain gang. Our
health and our families were more important than running around half
brain dead and drunk from fatigue. run your ass into the dirt 60 days
and then take 4 off. That's not even enough time to recoup your body
let alone the fatigue to your mental state. Even if we didn't have off
days there is no way in hell this company would let people off.  I
haven't been able to get a personal business day in over a year. Same
shit every time. NOT ENOUGH MANPOWER!    That's the problem. They cut
the crews to the bone just to use that excuse to keep anyone from
taking a day and the unions wont do a damn thing to keep our caps legal
and people hired as the union agreement says. These bastards want to go
to 1 man crews. You guys would have cried like bitches if they told you
that they were sending 3 of your men home. Only needed 2 of you! 
We have heard every old head story in the world. So what's your point.
We don't care anymore. Your retired and you still cant give it up. Get
off the computer and take those bag of bones out somewhere and live a
normal life if you can. Its in your blood but its not in ours. We just
do it cause it pays the bills for now!

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 February 2018

Lostit

Welcome to the railroad. You're the first generation to have more rest
working the road than in all the railroads history. From assigned rest
days to FRA mandated. CSX and all the railroads have found ways to get
around the FRA. It's not just CSX. My generation never wanted assigned
rest days. We knew once that happened marking off would become a major
problem. We weren't the majority anymore so your generation voted it
in. Before rest days most of us worked 60-90 days straight then took
off 3-4 days no questioned asked. If we needed more time no problem.
Doctor appointment or personal business no problem etc.... Once rest
days came into play the railroads attitude "do it on your rest days".
I understand not knowing what day it is, I knew the date not the day.
Being so exhausted adrenaline kicks in after 30 hours being wide awake
so you can't sleep. Did that at least twice a week for nearly 40
years. It's part of the job. Like you said it was a big paycheck and
that's why we did it for the money. Get some rest do it again.

Name: Lostit!
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 February 2018

Railroadfromhell 

You are absolutely right. I just got done living the nightmare.
Wverytime I got close to getting some time off by getting 6 starts they
either flipped me on a deadhead or kept me in the hotel just long enough
to reset them. Got home and back out on my rest for a solid 3 weeks
straight. Yea got big pay check and maybe some rest at hotel but it
still plays havoc on your mind. Went through it on extra bd. That
almost killed me. Kept losing things. Misplace stuff at home. Forget
something if you didn't write it down. Fell asleep behind the wheel
driving several times. Can't remember what day of the week it is. They
don't give a crap.  Just keep calling for a warm body. Refuse to
increase boards and keep reducing caps so u can't get days off. Unions
don't care. It will take blood on the rails to get something done.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 February 2018

When it gets busy, do your due diligence and follow all safety rules. If
you get injured or killed it messes up the people that care about you
for the rest of there lives. Donít let some ass kissing manager push
you to the point it becomes unsafe. Just so he can get gradification
from his bosses. Think about your families.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 February 2018

When it gets crazy busy like that,and they bring new people in. And the
panick is on really watch your back and really take extra precautions.
Because some times the left hand does not know what the right hand is
doing. And then there ends up being accident or fatality. Cover your
ass!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 February 2018

Willard can't handle any more freight. With the yardmasters now dealing
with North Baltimore, Willard, Lordstown and New Castle. They are over
worked and there is no help in site. I have yet to see a trainmaster
there around the clock usually sharing duties with North Baltimore. Yet
New Castle has 3 of them working around the clock.

Name: Railroading to hell
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 February 2018

I think what people are forgetting is the railroad cause people to work
every 10 hours for months at a time and when they fall asleep and kill
people look what they're doing about that

Name: Ape
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 February 2018

Willard gaining freight. Hired more trainmasters and word is posting
more yard jobs? Anyone hear anything similar?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 February 2018

Signed a waiver for Christmas and then charged for New Years.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 February 2018

When I started on the railway,the cell phone had not been invented yet.
And if someone from home had to get ahold of us in an emergency they
did. The railway is a fast and dangerous industry. The last thing
employees need is another distraction!! If your head is not focused on
your work it usally spells disaster.

Name: Frequent Flyer HA!
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Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 February 2018

RRJIM
Wooooow!!! Didn't mean to raise your blood pressure.
I just meant that it seems cell phone frequencies might be interfering
with some other frequency the RR is using and shouldn't be.
Most cell phones have a video camera. Certain CSX don't want some
things filmed.

Name: Imlovenit
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 February 2018

Every time I read this part it puts a smile across my face.


CSX's chief medical officer, Dr. Craig S. Heligman, and several other
supervisors and managers are included in the suit, which seeks back pay
and multiple other damages to be determined in court. Attorneys for the
plaintiffs also demanded a trial by jury.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 February 2018

I think what everyone is forgetting here is that an engineer that was
texting cost a lot of people to lose there lives. So a law was passed
forbidding the use of cell phones in the transportation industry. They
have done studies that people that text a lot and use social media,
that the pleasure centre of the brain is addicted to cell phones. Main
in younger people. They even take there phones to bed,and go into
physical withdrawal if they do not have the use of there phones. Having
a phone in your posetion and turned off,drive a lot of people crazy.
Because they feel they are missing out on important messages,distracted
driving death has now serpassed  impaired driving deaths. In Asian
countries parents have sent there kids to treatment centres for
addiction to cell phones computers etc. These kids get physical sick
and distrot and have even  committed suicide from not having these
divices.  So I donít think it would be smart to be parked in a siding
at night or day and walk. Around the front of a train and get hit by
train next to yours. It has happened in the past and will again in the
future. There will always be people that will brake the rules,and in a
lot of cases it costs lives.

Name: FREQUENT FLYER
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 February 2018

RRJIM


Are you kidding... Really comparing a train to a plain in the air.  Not
only have a seen someone on their phone every single trip I have flown
but I have seen many of many fly attendants look at them and just keep
walking.  I personally asked a pilot about this and he said it was a
chance in a million a cell phone would interfere with the planes
ability to function properly. The cell phone rule only became in effect
after someone was not paying attention to their job. The phone had
nothing to do with dropping signals, not paying attention and missing a
signal indication or another hazard because someone was on their phone
talking instead of paying attention. There is no reason in hell that
someone can not be sitting on a train stopped and waiting and not be
able to use their cell phone. If you can use a company cell phone then
why in the hell could you not use your own. what is the difference?
Different spy model they use?  Have their own Nasa towers?   This is
just bullshit and went to the extreme because they had a few dumb asses
who were on their phone instead of doing their job. Put cameras in all
the cabs and a cell phone detector. Real simple. If the train Is moving
it should be set up to go off if it picks up a signal in the cab. If
they got questions they can download and view the cameras. They are
here to stay. All those claims crew members put in for years for those
cameras being installed was a big waste of time and the Unions knew
they were never going to be able to put a stop to it.  Just blew smoke
up the members asses to keep them happy and  make them think they gave
a shit.
If I was a crew member and had a situation at home that needed
attention and I was stuck out on the road, I wouldn't hesitate one
minute to get off and walk 25 feet away. Find a nice place to sit and
if it was cold as hell and sleeting I would ask the dispatcher if he
had to stop me could it be somewhere that I could get in some shelter
cause you need to get ahold of your family and you have to get off the
train to do it.  Sure he'll laugh his head off but throw it out there.
You got nothing to lose! Oh, and I got a friend that works a local and
says the TM's blow his phone up all day wanting to know where he is
and what's he doing and wants an update constantly. Wouldn't turn it
on at first but then management teased him for being a chicken shit for
not checking his phone! Told him to tell the company to get him a
company phone and tell them he'll be answering on the job all day but
he wasn't using his own!  Bunch of losers!

Name: Fact
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 February 2018

Do you know why the RR is screwing your eyeballs out? Do you want to
know why the union doesn't care anymore? 

Answers.  Because you idiots will not stick together .!!!!  You people
are your worse enemy.  You just will not stick together. 


Signing a waivers are no good. Go to a board.!!!! Trust me..!!!! 
But, if you are guilty of doing something or feel that it was your
fault then sign a waiver... 
9 times out of 10 it's the companies fault.

Name: UP Hoyt Monroe
E-mail: employees@up.com
Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 February 2018

We all thought that Roger Lambeth would be selected as Vice President
for the Western Region. And now this indicates that management is no
longer turning a blind eye to incompetence, especially with all the
groping claims in St. Charles, is surfacing...!

KARMA

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 February 2018

Re: RRJIM

Why can't you use your cell phone take off and landing an air plane?
Try frequency interference.
Might want to reconsider the RR and FRA motive.

Name: T
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 February 2018

Cell Phones are prohibited must be 25 ft from rail.  Can't use for
business or personnel.
If the phone is company provided it can be used for company buisness.
Inside the cab.

Name: UP
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 February 2018

RRJIM

Might not be UP but the post was correct. They do allow personal use if
the call in minimum use on a stopped train and no duties are required at
the time or any safety issues are present and the phone is stored after
the call is done. If it was a strict federal law that no personal use
was allowed while on the train then all railroads would have to follow
the law. Csx has done its usual maniac out of control crap to dominate
its employees every breath.  I Read some of  their rules. Cant read any
material that is not related to railroad work while you are on duty?
What kind of horse shit is that. Im stopped in a siding for an hour you
can bet your ass Im reading my guns magazine or outdoor mag while Im
waiting. The list goes on with that horse shit company. They hired on
the wrong railroad!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 February 2018

Anyone got letters to return to work since fmla investigation or just
get termination letter.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 February 2018

TECH

This is a CSX site not UP. CSX might of changed the rules. I doubt it.
I know there were some exceptions like if a train is stopped one could
get off the train, off the tracks an use it for personal matters. There
is a FRA Special Order that prohibits PERSONAL use of cellphones. If any
railroad permits any electronic device for railroad operations then
that's not PERSONAL USE. So, the key issue is PERSONAL USE. Got
it!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 February 2018

What's up Louisville? Ford, Jim Beam, Heaven Hill, and Wild Turkey are
all hiring right now. Better get it while the getting is good! Check
job listings on google. CSX sucks and it aint getting better, lets just
all leave, LOL.

Name: tech
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 February 2018

RRJIM

It has not been illegal to use cell phones on trains for years. What
has been illegal is the type of use that you are using the cell phone
for. Take the UP railroad for example. They allow use on their trains
as long as there is no safety related situations which includes while
the train is moving, a crew member is on the ground or on moving
equipment or any rr employee is assisting in preparation of the train
or engine.
May be used for voice communication in the cab as long as the device is
turned off and stowed away after the call is completed.

In a crew room for voice communication OR to update rules,
documents.etc... An electronic device may be used for text/internet  in
a crew room when all job related duties have been completed..
Harrison was a complete control freak and pushed the rules way beyond
the limits including no use of cell phones in a crew room while on
duty.. No one was going to take him seriously anyway. TMs had been
blowing up crew members phones on local jobs before he took over and
well after. Cant get a dispatcher on the radio , call them. Cant get
paperwork call the workorder department. Cant fix the TO call them.
Cant fix the PTC call them. Cant get a straight answer on clearance
bureau paperwork that is missing, call them.  The list goes on and on.
Phones will never be removed. What has been under review is the type of
use and when exactly it is safe to use it.  Sitting in a siding for 2
hours waiting for a signal at 3am in the morning is a good example of
when a crew member should be able to use his cell phone. Absolutely no
safety issues should exist here.  It was bad enough HH did away with
all napping. Under these circumstance not only should someone be able
to take a nap but it should be assumed that it will happen. With
cameras in the cabs, it is real easy to see on the down load when
someone is using a cell phone during the wrong  times. People will hang
themselves. There is no use in penalizing everyone because of a few
idiots. That's what the cameras are for. Something stupid happens then
download them. Teach people that you better be paying attention at the
right times. If we download you and catch you improperly using your
phone you'll get your walking papers.

Name: Wood
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 February 2018

The officer conducting my hearing was a prick.   He made me out to be a
criminal.  I want him and that person  on the phone listed on my
lawsuit.   I think Foote should be held liable too. 

This outrage is going to cost CSX and their henchman dearly.

Name: U2
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 February 2018

My favorite part is where the individual managers are being sued
alongside the company.  Let that be a warning to ALL supervisors and HR
personnel you will be held accountable for your actions.  You are not
above the laws of the land and you cannot hide behind your job.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 February 2018

It's been illegal under federal law to use a cellphone onboard trains
for years. I know people still do it. Getting caught is a risk they'll
have to take. Before I retired nearly 8 years ago a company officer
could ask to see cellphones. They had to be off and put away in the
grip. Whether they could ask to see the content that's another issue.

Name: Wondering 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 February 2018

Whatís the website Getsome?  Is it Getsome.com, Getsome.gov?  What is
it?





Name: U2
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 February 2018

Download the PDF and Read the complaint filed by former CSX employees
on
the site GetSome posted.    This shows what sort of madmen we are
dealing with.  

Also even the the officer holding the kangaroo court is being sued.   

Great po

Name: Legal
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 February 2018

T&E
 
Rumors are circulating that a group of supervisors( hit squad) boarded
a train and demanded the crew members take out their cell phones and
turn them on so they could view the phone calls or text messages that
were sent or received during the crew members on duty time. If this
happens before you do anything you need to advice the supervisor that
per FRA and other laws, they must first have a filed and legit subpoena
to view your personal phone records. If they insist on viewing your
phone do not argue with them or you will risk insubordination charges.
If your engine has a newly installed cell phone detector on it, there
is a good chance you will receive a hit when you turn it on. 
Immediately contact your FRA inspector for  operating rules as well as
your mechanical. You will also need to let your Union Representatives
know.  File a charge with your ethics committee. Do it as soon as you
are able to do so without compromising your job. This is not a laughing
matter and should not be treated as such. This kind of blatant
disrespect for privacy as well as federal laws is not acceptable.

Name: Monitor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 February 2018

L&N

Send a  request to Atom Smasher. He can let you know locations of the
servers used now and used in the past. Yes, there are pines posers on
here.  Just don't respond to it...

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 February 2018

So the first grade math for railroading for dummies Name: L&N dispr

Wrong way.
1. Open main track switch --move wares across main track switch---park
wares in staging are.
2. Close main track switch after parking wares.
3. Open main track switch when wares go bye-bye

Right way
1. Open main track switch when wares go bye-bye because the staging
area is on the same side of the main as the business. 67% less switch
activity to go wrong--67% less back injuries--

Jens L@N

Mommy, mommy we went swimming at school today and I was the only one
with back hair--Does that mean I'm getting smarter mommy?

Mommy
No Jens L@N --That's because your 23.

Name: U2
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 February 2018

Download the PDF and Read the complaint filed by former CSX employees on
the site GetSome posted.    This shows what sort of madmen we are
dealing with.  

Also even the the officer holding the kangaroo court is being sued.   

Great post GetSome I'd urge all to read.

Name: L&N dispr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 February 2018

Monitor: I promise you, there is only one pines posting.  No two people
can be that deranged.  Trust me, he has not goated me in to anything. 
He is his own worst enemy.  Nobody takes him serious and just laughs at
him ... He is NOTHING but a big baffoon.

Name: GetSome
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 February 2018

CSX's chief medical officer, Dr. Craig S. Heligman, and several other
supervisors and managers are included in the suit, which seeks back pay
and multiple other damages to be determined in court. Attorneys for the
plaintiffs also demanded a trial by jury.

Name: GetSome
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 February 2018

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/news/former-workers-file-lawsuit-against-csx/article_562d9397-6479-5bb7-ae39-9737521af490.html


Check out the part where supervisors and the medical officer is listed
as defendants in the lawsuit


I hope these union brothers get every penny they deserve.


You can't break federal law and get away with it.  I bet CSX will turn
their backs on these managers.

Name: monitor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 February 2018

L&N

Just ignore him! Don't let him goat you. The old pines had you going
for a long time. This one has played you in the past and had you eating
out of his hands. Anytime you give him a response it just feeds his
illness.  Let him rant. If he continues any filth like in the past week
he will have his post removed. It has already been done to send him a
message. Webmaster wont tolerate it!

Name: D MAN
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 February 2018

Thanks for the about out Top hat, holla back

Name: L&N dispr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 February 2018

Just look at the question pines ask.. It is totally incoherent and makes
no sense at all.  " business side, and disturb main tk". Just what the
hell does that mean, it is just rambling.

Name: PC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 February 2018

L&N  

This poster is not our beloved pines. The webmaster has kept track of
the servers and types of devices used. This is just a wack job using
his name. Best to just ignore him. If he is dangerous he can't hurt
anyone with the keyboard.

Name: Tophat
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 February 2018

D Man

You a silly bitch

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 February 2018

be after reveiw that i be within my parameters.  I got the ptsd.  they
be knowen they cant be winning no trial.   they still be  getting that
ass sued believe that.

Name: L&N dispr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 February 2018

Re: rail

Robert Pines is a very disturbed individual.  If you pull up his mug
shot you can tell in his eyes that he clearly not all there.  His
picture resembles many of the same characteristics of some of the
school shooters.  I think he is in need of a psychiatric evaluation. He
constant rambling, lying and insane rants prove that he is a very sick
person. His inability to understand simple physics is scary... He
thinks an engine needs a steering wheel, air bags and a breaking system
that should allow a 12000 ton coal train to stop on a dime.  He does not
understand rules, regulations, or laws pertaining to the railroad. 
Hopefully a family member will recognize his unstable mental state and
get him help...That or the FBI needs to interview him before he goes on
a shooting rampage targeting rail employees.  The signs are all there.
We don't need ANOTHER sicko to slip through our fingers...

Name: Rail 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 February 2018

Atom smasher  

No one seems to know how to get to this poser pie hole pines and choke
him out. Can't you just block him or remove his post as soon as he
hits the submit button? He's a grade a loser. Wack job!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 February 2018

Well Cindy Sanborn will meet Jens Bang L@N Dispatcher and fall deeply in
luv since Omaha is a lot closer to Idaho than Jacksonville. They will
both be in the stupid looking RR hats and have on square toe boots at
the wedding with Johnny Cash singing in the background with a train
bell clanging "I've been wanting to work on the railroad". Jens
momma will be throwing railroad spikes as rice. Then L@N Jens will
sweep Cindy off her feet and ride off in circles on his tinker toy
train heading to foamer land.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2018/02/16/in-the-wake-of-fatal-amtrak-crash-ntsb-issues-urgent-safety-recommendation/?utm_term=.bf2c3827d7af

So these safety regulations in effect from 1867 don't say --"""dumb
ass railroads don't have the staging area on the opposite side of the
business which causes the main track to be disturbed.How come?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 February 2018

Cindy likes the terrible idea of dp trains so maybe expect that. It
didn't work to well at csx

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 February 2018

Got chopped now be going back.  Where be my lost monies mofos.  Gots to
feed Trex and I need new shoes.   Don't won't to be back.  Still be
getting that's ass sued  you can believe that.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 February 2018

Hey all, Cindy Sanborn took over yesterday here on the UP as regional
Vice President. Any thoughts on what we can expect from her in the
future.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 February 2018

CSX: From first to worst.

Name: loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 February 2018

Engineer less than1

Air brake and train handling rule 5655.1
Locomotive operators must have a blank copy of the train separation
report and the train stall report before beginning a trip or tour of
duty.

5655.2 When a train that you are operating has a separation or stalls,
complete and forward the appropriate report to the road foreman of
engines as soon as possible.


Now that CSX has done away with the Road foreman and have replaced them
with Trainmasters it is not possible to follow this rule as it is
written. Greatlakes division had a road foreman of engines who's
office was located in Indianapolis but that job was abolished. There is
supposed to be someone who has been appointed to over see the operations
of engines and engineers. I do not know who that is but now that you
have brought this question forward I will definitely start asking
questions.  In the meantime I would just give it to a TM and tell him
to forward it to the proper department.

You are correct about there only being one form available on the
gateway. The only one I could find was the stall. I haven't seen
anything in the rules about a low fuel report having to be carried.

If you cant find the reports it is up to a supervisor to supply them.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 February 2018

Judging by the flood of illiterate posts, itís definitely Friday.

Name: engineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 February 2018

Engineers/hoggers.....

Can anyone tell me where it is in writing that we have to carry a
stall, separation and low fuel report on us or we are subject to
discipline.  I cant find it. Also I went to the employee gateway and
went to the engineer read file for the greatlakes division and the only
report they have on there that you can copy is the stall. Where else are
these reports supposed to be so we can copy them. This is getting to be
a real pain in the butt with this company. Cant find this rule or that
rule. Rules are missing and not republished since this new Harrison
crew took over and changed the format of everything.  Don't know about
you but this is just plain horse crap and an unprofessional way to run a
business.

Name: cindgoneloco
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 February 2018

RRJIM

 You got it right man and that TM poster can stick it up his uneducated
arss.  I just love it how a stupid TM doesn't pay attention to his YM
and builds a train with all the lightweight empties on the head end and
all the heavies on the rear. Then sticks heavy tankers in between auto
racks cars and empty long flats between heavy loads. Then you got
trains now that are 16000 tons and 14000 feet long and the tele's wont
communicate, the engines throw ground relays and the bastards stall and
they want to blow it up your arss for their stupidity.
Then you got the TM who lets his YM build a local with the blocks
sprayed all through it and you got to flat switch it out half the day
cherry picking your cars. Industry leaves cars in the wrong place or
move their cars and sets them off of spot. You get an extra board guy
who is called extra to do work because you cant get it done in a day
because your cherry picking cars and he sets off in the wrong tracks or
blocks your normal tracks you use or what ever he can think of to add
and extra 2 hours to your switch. 
Railroading is not rocket science but neither is being a TM who does
the same repetitive crap. Job is to get trains built and out of his
yard. Same crap everyday. Over see the same damn trains on line of road
doing the same damn thing. Just as repetitive. Only difference is we are
the backbone, we move it and we make the company the money. We fix the
workorders, trouble shoot our power. We come up with plans of actions
when our trains are sprayed or not blocked properly. When picking up
and setting off on line of road we make sure we have a good head end or
don't pair up bad hazmats. We adjust and adapt to all situations. We
cram a square peg in a round hole if we have to make it fit. Repair air
hoses and lines. Change out knuckles. Rig up hoses and do what is
necessary to keep the freight moving. Snow, sleet, rain, 110 heat
index. We endure. We're in the trench blue collar railroaders and god
damn proud of it!

Name: D
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 February 2018

Trainmaster/sup. Is a fucking moron u dip shits run around chasing ur
tails and trying to put out fires u all started, if it wasn't for us
t&e guys and gals, u wouldn't even know what to tell us to do, get ur
overblown head outta ur ass

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 February 2018

Minor variables in your day to day routine doesn't mean no two days are
alike. No two days are exactly the same but that's it. I can't say my
drive to work is dramatically different every day for 20 years because
the leaves are a different color in summer and fall. Any moron can do
any job at the railroad period, it doesn't take brains to do the work
if the work is about the same everyday. I'm not saying anyone at the
railroad is a moron, but being a railroaders doesn't mean you are
smart. At the railroad most decisions are made for you, you do what you
are told and that's it. If you can follow instructions and rules, you
got it.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 February 2018

Name: L&N dispr your screwed up as usual you little Idaho potato nuttin.
Prices are set by ownership. $100,000 loan scared me off way back when.
Big mistake. CATV is the biggest ponzi scheme ever. This owner buys
this owner who has to jack prices up from profits paid to the old owner
who had fake subscriber-ship  X10 in most places. Let's see $7 a box
recovery times 25 at a large apartment complex plus a couple dozen more
a day plus all the other wasn't a bad day. Sales I quit at $1,000 day
which was 3 hours a lot of times.

But then they have designs made and buy the equipment from the designer
who has the most equipment possible for the area jacking up prices from
their supplier kinda like the fool railroads do on PTC.

Always remember ---Illegal cable keeps crime rates down.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 February 2018

brakeman 1-10

The nearly 40 years working for the railroad no two days were alike.
Every train I ran as a locomotive engineer was different from train
make-up to the scenery on the route. Maybe if you stayed awake you
might of seen it.

Name: L&N dispr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 February 2018

Pines, shut up grownups are posting.I wish you would go out and protest
in the middle of a track one day... Did your parents have any children
that lived.

Now go install a cable box somewhere , my little cable boy... And then
charge the customer 400 bucks for an $4 box.. Talk about screwing the
public..

Name: Understand 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 February 2018

Make No mistake. Our Trainmasters are low level management with big
egos
that are wanting to be the next CEO. Understand you are a piss ant
that
NEVER will be anything but a escape goat for the company. You are a
puppet that makes horrible decisions when left alone. You and only you
create bad attuides among the men and women that you try to supervise.
You are a boy in a mans world, you are a baby holding a gun, think
twice before you try to take a employees job. Learn your place.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 February 2018

Just a derailment of a NS freight in Attica New york, multiple cars and
fuel, Engineers and conductor sent to the hospital. Engines down and
Embankment, black smoke all over....

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 February 2018

Name: L&N dispr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 February 2018

Re: brakeman 

Saying any moron can work at the railroad is quite presumptuous of
you.

Shoulda said "look at me-- a 45 year wanna me that never even seen the
inside of a railroad office much less worked for a RR" huh L@N?

Foam you foamers foam.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 February 2018

Two articles...

As CSX workforce shrinks, accidents pile up and morale plummets

https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/02/14/as-csx-workforce-shrinks-accidents-pile-up-and.html


CSX: From first to worst

https://www.railwayage.com/news/csxfrom-first-worst/

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 February 2018

It's funny how Tucker challenges the claim that employee moral is at a
all time low.  Just shows you how out of touch and unfit they are for
their jobs.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 February 2018

Need to get this out to :


https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/02/14/as-csx-workforce-shrinks-accidents-pile-up-and.html

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 February 2018

One thing shareholders management bean counter all forget. If the
employees donít move the trains the whole show stops. I do think it is
just a big sell off of equipment and CSX assets for a big payday to
share holders and upper management. Look what Hh took out of CSX and
got nothing in return. Employees canít stop this,and are just going to
hope that they still have employment after the raiders have gone.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 February 2018

We are the same contracted employees across all class 1 railroads.  One
thing is different and that's management.  I just want to say
congratulations to Csx management for leading the way in train
accidents, deterating customer service and a new all time low for
employee moral.

Name: L&N dispr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 February 2018

Re: brakeman 

Saying any moron can work at the railroad is quite presumptuous of you.
 A lot of the younger dispatchers now all have college degrees.  The
railroad is not for everyone.  But I can promise you this.. If your azz
gets in a bind in the middle of nowhere, who do you want with you?  The
old head with 35 years of experience and knowledge or your 25 year old
drinking buddy with you.  Because that is when school really begins.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 February 2018

I quit the railroad to work for 16.50/hr and I bring home about what I
was at the RR. My union dues are like 32 a month, insurance is 100%
free, I have a pension plan, and life is good. The pay at the RR is
deceptive, it sounds good but once everyone gets their piece of your
check its not as good as it sounds. 16.50/hr and my bring home is
close, we get a raise every year and and top out at 39/hr after 7
years. I have no education past high school. I'm just letting everyone
know that anyone can get out of the rr, it's not that great and there
are plenty of good jobs that pay like the rr.

Name: Great lakes
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 February 2018

Calling people back today. In new castle, they just furloughed 2 guys
almost 2 weeks ago, and now they're calling 6 back today. Makes sense
to me. I don't see why they need anyone anyways, there's not much
work right now.

Name: 
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Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 February 2018

A moron can work at the railroad, morons do work at the railroad. The
railroad doesn't require you to think, period! Railroad work is
repetition, you do the same few things all day everyday. Once a guy has
held the same job for a while that is all he knows, he cant work other
jobs very efficiently. There are guys with 15+ years in that can only
do 1 job. An older head once told me running around your cars is the
same as spinning your train, I had to explain that one to him. I'm not
saying he's dumb, I'm just saying that he has worked the same job for
so long that he never has to make that move.

Name: Educated
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 February 2018

Ape.... 
I hope that comment of "no education" meant a college degree because
if it didn't then I'm thouroughly offended by it. Even though I only
did a few years in college which served me no use I like to think I was
just as educated before I went. Do not mislead the public. Until this
years changes we were all required to do continuous education on the
job.  Pod testing, face to face testing, simulator testing,and constant
changes in rules and updating our railroad "school books". No
different than a teacher's continuous education. Let's not forget our
constantly fixing the problems created by management and the numerous
phone calls we make to fix paperwork problems. We are all skilled in
math as we deal with numbers all day every day. We are clerks when we
have to call Jacksonville to correct workorders or payroll to explain
the errors they have made. some may look like they have no grammar
skills when posting on this site but we read our bulletins,workorders
and scour our paperwork for potential errors. We know our hazmat rules
and we are just plain DAMN SMART PEOPLE. Did you know many colleges
offer a degree in transportation?  I got mine out here!

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 February 2018

When you have an Amtrak train full of politicians, that hits a vehicle
and kills driver. And then another amtrack accident where crew is
killed etc. If thatís not a wake up call to rail safety,then I feel
nothing will be. Go to work get every penny you can for working. In the
end of this take over ,you will find out what you end up with. Guys say
they want to look for new job. But there are not many jobs out there
that pay as good as the railway with no education. I did my 35 years on
the railway. I was lucky I made it to retirement. Lived threw all these
changes,and just went to work every day and did my job went home.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 February 2018

People get killed every year by trains it gets its 2 minutes on the
news. Thousands are killed every year buy gun violence. And the
goverment makes gun laws even more laxed. A few job cuts and sell off
of railway property and equipment,really only impacts the workers. The
public at large is really not affected. It might be a story one day
forgotten the next !!!!!!

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 February 2018

Your wasting your time going to media etc. We did all that in Canada. 47
people where burnt to death. At the end of it no one is accountable. A
few dollars changed hands. And the railways do what they want when they
want . Money talks bullshit walks. Maybe in USA your goverment holds big
companies accountable more than than in Canada.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 February 2018

And the stock is bullish,from all the cuts. The negative from these cuts
will not be notice. Until law suits from Amtrak crew deaths and injuries
are out in the courts.

Name: RRJim
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 February 2018

I read 2 articles this morning that are exposing CSX cut backs and
downsizing of the workforce. One article even included unnamed
employees discussing the deteriorating morale. It still needs to get
out to the general public and not in just the business sections. I 
most likely wouldn't of seen them if I hadn't went to the financial
section to check on my stocks.

Name: Micheal Ward
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Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 February 2018

Here it is.... The Union is dead. You can't strike, sick-outs don't
work. The Union is done, UTU and BLE both. Take what they give! if
anything. CSX Railroad is not what it use to be, it will be gone soon.
Only hope, is a merger from another big RR out West, maybe get their
offer. Just hold on for now. This place is done. Bickering on here,
will not help. Just take the dry fucking until this bunch gets their
profits, then wait for the new guys to take over!!! Better days
ahead???

Name: Monitor
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 February 2018

Pines poser  

We're all onto you. Even the webmaster. At least the real pines
wasn't a parasite. If your so disgusted with this site why don't you
move on.

Name: Dman
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 February 2018

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/17/15290674/union-labor-movement-europe-bargaining-fight-15-ghent

Name: Retired Now
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 February 2018

RR people are too hard on "foamers".
(I worked in the area(s) where that term originated & was 1st heard.) 

A few may be a PITA but most are just historians, hobbyists, rail fans,
train nuts, etc. & don't mean to be or want to be, any trouble.

Name: Robert Pines
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 February 2018

CSX-SUCKS ---Official foamer site for foamers who are happy as hogs
wallowing in their own shit.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 February 2018

Weakening our Union? Wake up and smell the ashes.

Name: lville cutback eng forced rco
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 February 2018

gee, ur such a crybaby, stop lookin at the boards so much and go do some
work. like ive said before, not stepping up or taking calls isnt going
to get anyone back or anyone marked up any faster. so quit your
whining.

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 February 2018

Once again we got some sukkas in Louisville bending over backwards for
the company and making sure those layed off don't come back, those
cutback don't mark up, and weakening our union. Thanks Staley and
Jones!

Name: Carman
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 February 2018

I watched the gong show working with ceo Hh. Foote as ceo is just a
bandage solution from Hh death. They empower these low line managers
just to shake things up. The hard ball approach with employees. One
thing about the railway is there are rules and regulations in every
department. And union employees can hold the company responsible to
follow all procedures safely. The company hates it because it takes
time to do your due diligence. The employees that take short cuts think
there doing the company a big favour and will be repayed  some how
ďNOTĒ. The employees that do there job safely by the book are looked at
as shit disturbers. With all the attention from train accidents where
there have been loss of life. The ones that are going to be
investigated for laxed safety procedures,are going to pay the price. I
would rather get pulled out of service by doing my job safely. Than
being pulled out of service for not properly doing my job. This is all
going to come to ahead with managers telling employees to take short
cuts and braking rules. When they have investigations because of a
mishap,stupidity is no defence. Plug away sooner or later Foote and
gang will be gone.

Name: Understand
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Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 February 2018

Make No mistake. Our Trainmasters are low level management with big egos
that are wanting to be the next CEO. Understand you are a piss ant that
NEVER will be anything but a escape goat for the company. You are a
puppet that makes horrible decisions when left alone. You and only you
create bad attuides among the men and women that you try to supervise.
You are a boy in a mans world, you are a baby holding a gun, think
twice before you try to take a employees job. Learn your place.

Name: cond.
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 February 2018

Carman

You are right on point with that one on Harrison. He was nothing but a
little boy in a mans body with a control freak issues. Look at the UP
rules on the cell phones and cameras. Nothing like CSX. IF he said his
way was the FRA way he was a damn liar. Not only can you use cell
phones when stopped in the cab but you can use a stand alone camera to
take picture of safety hazards as long as you put the camera away when
your don't. CSX is scared to death of someone taking pictures for
proof of unsafe conditions.  Its a sad company that doesn't want to
own up to it issues!

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 February 2018

The bullshit I read on this site...

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 February 2018

Whoever made the comment about females, you can shut up. I am a male and
I have seen female conductors that would run most males in the ground. I
have seen males that don't have a freaking clue. I seen a guy get on
top of an rco engine and ride it like a surf board just to be funny,
that's the kind of immature behavior that doesn't belong at the
railroad. Male or female, in great shape or horrible shape, it don't
matter. Railroading is more mental than anything, a smart conductor
with a good work ethic trumps everything else and I have seen out of
shape females out smart and out railroad a lot of fit males.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 February 2018

New conductor https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fUyU3lKzoio#

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 February 2018

I was parked in the truck waiting for new conductor to back his train
into the track. He told the hogger to back up. And the hogger give the
throttle shit. The new conductor had his hoody up and walking facing
the movement. With cars coming up behind him I could see he was walking
to close to the track. I honked the horn. Got out of the truck screaming
at him waving my arms. He just looked down at the ground. When the box
car made contact with the left side of his body it threw him like a rag
doll away from the track. The hogger stopped must of figured something
was wrong and stopped. I got to the conductor he was laying on down he
ground out cold. Called ambulance he was busted up pretty good. He just
did not use common sense. He never worked again.

Name: Carman
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 February 2018

It has been mentioned on here about over weight employees. There have
been lots of studies on shift work and health problems. Weight gain is
one of the issues. When a persons sleep patterns are messed up. Myself
when I worked midnight shift,I lived on Rolandís like many other s did.
Once I retired and had a normal sleep schedule my heath issues went
away. For a employees personal safety and safety of others. I would
take that reviving nap while parked in siding. I would let them fire me
if they seen on the camera. Then challenge the company medically. Iím
sure CSX would loose that one. Hh just suspended naps because he was a
sadist.

Name: Carman 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 February 2018

Well it is just not lifting a knuckle,you also have to know how to
change it. We have had people hire on the mechanical dept. they pass
the written tests but have o mechanical ability. I think when some of
they people hire on as trainmen. They think they will just be waving at
people riding the rails. But people cover for a lot of these people and
once they get there probation period in , the people are stuck with
them. Each generation is getting softer and softer.  Inept people are
the ones that get hurt and get others hurt in a lot of cases. Some
donít even pick things up after working for over a year. I ended up
changing 10 pair of wheels on coal train because stupid conductor
forgot to take handbrakes off.

Name: female
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 February 2018

APE 1

When I was hired and went to conductor school we had real old heads as
instructors. And I mean OLD! Instead of retiring they wanted to teach.
They wheeled a cart with a knuckle on it in front of the class. They
had everyone walk up to the front of the room and lift the knuckle one
foot off of the cart. They said that was all they need to see. Quoted
the CSX rule that no one was to use brute force on anything and if
something was to heavy or something wasn't able to be fixed with
reasonable force that we were supposed to request help. They showed us
how to put a knuckle in but not a single one of us actually did it. We
heard rumors later that the company was afraid if any of us got hurt
while in school there would be a law suit. We all guessed that's why
it went down the way it did. Yes, not all women are capable of lifting
heavy knuckles, but not all 300 overweight guys are capable of riding
the side of a car for 5 miles if need be. I have changed knuckles and
used sledge hammers to get the job done. Your right. Not everyone is a
good fit for the job, but then if they aren't why does the company
pass them and send them to the field? How many time have you worked
with someone and asked yourself... how did this guy every pass the
school?  Government grants?

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 February 2018

Before you leave the yard make sure all paper work is in order. That you
have calibration and air braves are pumped right up.make sure you check
crew to crew and everything is in order. Etc.

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 February 2018

Gotta love this site.
RR folks do not know how to select a topic to comment on. they are all
the same???????

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 February 2018

There are employees that are just at the railway taking up space. They
like the money and perks,benefits etc. They abuse fmla good gig till
they get caught. And then fired,some of these people that slipped threw
the cracks. Are more suited in the retail sector like McDonaldís. I work
with some women that canít lift a knuckle and play the girl card to get
heavy lifting done for them. Some people are just not a good fit for
railway life.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 February 2018

When are the unions going to earn the respect of their paying members.
Why pay for nothing every month, and do that for years and years.
Must be the Railroad say's you have to, and the Union say's you have
to so--- you do. That my friends is not smart.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 February 2018

Barlow

How do you know he was taken off more than his approval?


So what if he did.  It's an estimate.

Name: Barlow Sims
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 February 2018

Boy the fmla noise sure has calmed down, only guy i know if thats
terminated used mire than twice his prescribed time. This dude is
crying on Fbook, telling some sob bs story to anybody who will listen. 
Brothers this is here to protect us all from the company in a time of
need and must not be abused.

Name: Monitor
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 February 2018

Disgusted

Your wish is our command. As you can see the filth has been removed

Ape, I do work for the railroad and you may think that its okay to have
a filthy vile mouth but not all of us on the rails agree. It is bad
enough that the nasty reputation of past railroaders follows us
everywhere when if fact it is not all true. Yes, we do work with some
who have no regard for cleanliness and tact but not all of us are that
way and hate that we are stereotyped because of them. This site was
meant to be a place that we could all come and vent about the treatment
we receive and problems we face on a daily basis. A place to brainstorm
and report and to help others with obstacles they are facing. It was
never meant to be a place for wack jobs to post irrelevant filth.
Thumbs up to Atom Smasher!

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 February 2018

Disgusted, you obviously don't work for the railroad if that bothers
you lol, pansy

Name: disgusted
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 February 2018

Atom Smasher

Please review the previous post under the heading Robert Pines. They
are pure filth and obviously based on some deep seated anger and
illness. We don't need that on this site. Can you please remove them?

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 February 2018

2 Sukkas in Louisville again today taking calls they don't have to.
Thanks union brothers.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 February 2018

Mugshots.com ID: 69908027

Robert Pines occupation cable installer and convicted felon...

Age: 60

Home Address: Sullivan
Arrest Date: 11/21/2013
Info: was arrested on the charge of Tampering With a Witness. A
warrant
was issued and he remains in custody.

Name: D MAN 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 February 2018

Retired.


I try to help and i try to keep a level head, im a member ofb the utu
the other union is just fine, but i was told a while back by an old
head that is now gone to stick with my craft, so thats my solitary and
i try to be as helpful as i can, but i also am pissed about a lot of
things and think tje GC could do more, we r just trying to take baby
steps and organize our local before we can accomplish anything greater.

Name: Retired Now
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 February 2018

Cond 10-20: 
You ever any help?
Think the other organization will really\truly want ya?   
Sometimes, 10% of the membership can/may cause 90% of the hassles.
People switch over - then switch again......
Usually better off with PITA members leaving.
Adios.

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 February 2018

Most of the time when you change unions. It is just a change of jackets
and logos.what you have to do is vote people out that you feel are
sitting on there hands. I know that the speed a company is changing the
rules. It takes time time to catch up and deal with issues.And the
company does not want to bargain in good faith. Itís there way or the
highway.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 February 2018

Time to hold the utu accountable.  They either start working for us and
do something tangible or we all switch unions.  Let's give them till
June or we all switch.

Name: D MAN
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 February 2018

Guys i know everyone has reasons for taking calls and doin what they
need to do weather it be to say out of a yard u dont know well, or just
work somthing ur more comfortable with. But this is dividing and
conquering at its finest, i am a conductor and will stand with any
engineer when it comes to standing up for and fighting for better
conditions and rules, and i cant say i dont know of any engineers that
wouldnt do the same. Stay focused, Stand together on our one uniting
issue, being uprooted over worked and misused, never forget we are
trained professionals, that do what most normal people can not, it
takes a railroader to understand that, to any non railroader no offense
to ur profession u just cant understand. We stand side by side wacth
each others backs we see each other more than our familys most of the
time, we fight and get pissed but still get the work done together. Mis
placed energy will be waisted vent bicth and yell get it out and then
step back and lets roll on together.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 February 2018

Yes you will pull into the terminal,a manager will download the
locomotive to see if you where playing games to delay getting into
town. You will get off and go switching in the yard till your time is
up. What the company wants is bang for there buck. And if your caught
leaving the property one minute before your time is up your fired.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 February 2018

Its going to work because our unions are worthless and don't stand for
anything ever. Ive been doing this for 24 years and i can tell you that
csx will do what it wants no matter what, the unions don't have a say
period. They put on a good show to make it look like they are earning
their dues money but in reality it is all show, the company will have
its way. Even with firings the union is not why you get your job back,
you get your job back because the company doesnt want to pay to replace
employees every week. Imagine the employee turnover if when someone got
fired that was it. It's all for show folks!

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 February 2018

How's all of that going to work?  National Agreement - no work rule
changes - only 10 or so weeks old.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 February 2018

They made those chang s at cn cp. they being doing it for five years
now.

Name: Reality
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 February 2018

Ape 

Not going to matter. The super pools are coming. Exb will be a thing of
the past. Be no distinction between yard and road jobs. Only problem
will be getting everyone remote qualified unless Foote does away with
them. It's coming. With hourly rate there will be no trip rates or job
limits. You will go anywhere and everywhere for 12 hours. Use you like a
step and fetch dog. Might handle a road train, jump on a local then
finish up in the yard. It's coming. Watch. Union's will be right on
board with it. If your a train rider you better get in shape. Your days
of riding the rails are coming to an end.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 February 2018

With the changes that csx has gone through and will go through, anyone
that does anymore than bare minimum shame on you. If you take calls
that you don't have to, shame on you. We need to preserve what we have
and helping the company is not the way right now. You don't have to
work any assignment that is not covered by what your board is
responsible for.

Name: Lol
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 February 2018

Train the office guys to operate the trains.   What office guys?  There
is no one left.     Are trainmasters are here one day and gone the
next.   I don't know who my current manager is.

Name: Robert Pines
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 February 2018

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/10/railroad-safety-agency-chief-resigns-heath-hall-402093

Top official departs Ďrudderlessí railroad safety agency

Ďrudderlessí Hmmm That would be a good name for this safety thread.

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 February 2018

Has anyone on here been put back too work since investigation for fmla
misuse.

Name: lville cutback eng forced rco
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 February 2018

I still dont know why all these crybabies keep crying ab cutback eng
taking calls in lville, listen, nothing is going to make them add more
turns back for engineers, just because people refuse to step up doesnt
mean the company is going to all of a sudden freak and decide to add
turns. If anything we need to take the eng calls, step up and protect
the work that we do have. if we dont, then they will just run the
trains elsewhere. I for one am forced on the yard xb, and i refuse to
work in that yard. I was one of the main ones that refused to take
engineer calls when cut back. But now that im forced in the yard, on a
yard xb that doesnt pay shit, I dont have much of a choice but to take
the calls, i cant afford that garbage guarantee pay that the yard pays.
to hell with that. so you best bet any chance i get to get out of that
yard im gonna take it. i understand how you all feel, i felt the same
way. but when it comes to finances, shit goes out the window.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 February 2018

I see mantle ridge LP Paul Halil acquired 42+ million dollars in stock
on FEB 9 along with others. Happened to look at the form 4 from the
securities commision for CSX. Mantle ridge is going to be around for a
while. Or they know something we don't. Look for stock rebound soon.
Good Luck

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 February 2018

Regarding Louisville - people assigned to yard extra list taking a call
for a road job: What's the rule? If they get you on the phone and
you're qualified, rested, can you say no?

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 February 2018

The guy complaining about yard guys taking road jobs is right. The
company only calls yard xtra board guys when the road boards are
exhausted. Why take a call to help the company? Make them miss an on
time departure here and there and the will eventually add turns which
adds jobs which is good for everyone.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 February 2018

To the guy crying about yard guys taking Rd jobs in Louisville, you sure
do check the board a lot, probably don't have a life, looks like
you're sharp shooting. You mad because yard trash stold your step on
step off high ball train? I think there's a term for your type,"
bitch ass n*gga"...

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 February 2018

legal fees

Attorneys work on contingency.  They cover all cost up front. This is 
how the little man can take on a large corporation.  If defendant is
found guilty. Your attorney fees and court cost will be paid by
defendant.  If you lose your case attorney eats all losses.  


If settled prior to..   Settlement minus attorney fees minus court cost
and fees equals your money free and clear.

Your attorney will have you agree to an engagement letter.  This is an
agreement to protect you and your attorney.  On whats expected from you
and the law firm.  Your attorney will draw it up but it will be written
so he has more protections than you do.  You do not have to agree to
this.  You can inform him that there are changes that will have to be
made.  He will change it. If he says no then he doesn't believe your
case will prevail.  If you are still unsure about the engagement
letter.  Pay a second attorney to go over it.  Once you agree to the
engagement letter you will be strictly bound to it.  You don't have to
sign an engagement letter for it to be binding.  A verbal agreement is
the same.   Most can't afford to fight an attorney.  So go over
everything he's there for himself then he's there for you.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 February 2018

No mo, instead typing all that shit nobody probably read, i personally
made it to about the second sentence. Next time just post a link,
#longestpostever

Name: Slick
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 February 2018

Sure sounds like a bunch of cry baby cut back engineers in Louisville
mad cause guys getting called and holding them back for a bid. If I was
one I'd say FU mofo....I got bills to pay . Maybe they don't want to
be in the yard so they take road calls...

Name: Key
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 February 2018

NOMO. 

Good to see you posting. been a long time. Hope the back is 
Well. Nothing has changed in this dream I'm living. Email of yours
crashed I guess. Ran out of "keys" a few years back! Lol. Sure miss
your brown banana awards! don't be a stranger!

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 February 2018

thats cool this isnt Canada  the union has nothing to do with Federal
protect leave

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 February 2018

In Canada I vent threw arbitration to get my railroad job back,I won my
case. The union told me that the arbitration ruling,is final and there
is no appeals and you canít take legal action. Because the union and
company agree to use this process to settle issues c

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 February 2018

Interesting...explains a lot.
 
WASHINGTON ó Federal investigators are still looking at how CSX railway
crews routed an Amtrak train into a parked freight train in Cayce, South
Carolina, last weekend. But even if CSX should bear sole responsibility
for the accident, Amtrak will likely end up paying crash victims'
legal claims with public money.
Amtrak pays for accidents it didn't cause because of secretive
agreements negotiated between the passenger rail company, which
receives more than $1 billion annually in federal subsidies, and the
private railroads, which own 97 percent of the tracks on which Amtrak
travels.
Both Amtrak and freight railroads that own the tracks fight to keep
those contracts secret in legal proceedings. But whatever the precise
legal language, plaintiffs' lawyers and former Amtrak officials say
Amtrak generally bears the full cost of damages to its trains,
passengers, employees and other crash victims ó even in instances where
crashes occurred as the result of a freight rail company's negligence
or misconduct.
Railroad industry advocates say that freight railways have ample
incentive to keep their tracks safe for their employees, customers and
investors. But the Surface Transportation Board and even some federal
courts have long concluded that allowing railroads to escape liability
for gross negligence is bad public policy.
"The freight railroads don't have an iron in the fire when it comes
to making the safety improvements necessary to protect members of the
public," said Bob Pottroff, a Manhattan, Kansas, rail injury attorney
who has sued CSX on behalf of an injured passenger from the Cayce
crash. "They're not paying the damages."

© The Associated Press The wreckage of an Amtrak train, bottom, and a
CSX freight train lie next to the tracks in Cayce, SC., on Sunday, Feb.
4, 2018. The trains collided in the early morning darkness Sunday,
killing the Amtrak conductor and engineerÖ
Beyond CSX's specific activities in the hours before the accident, the
company's safety record has deteriorated in recent years, according to
a standard metric provided by the Federal Railroad Administration.
Since 2013, CSX's rate of major accidents per million miles traveled
has jumped by more than half, from 2 to 3.08 ó significantly worse than
the industry average. And rail passenger advocates raised concerns after
the CSX CEO at the time pushed hard last year to route freight more
directly by altering its routes.
CSX denied that safety had slipped at the company, blaming the change
in the major accident index on a reduction of total miles traveled
combined with changes in its cargo and train length.
"Our goal remains zero accidents," CSX spokesman Bryan Tucker wrote
in a statement provided to The Associated Press. CSX's new system of
train routing "will create a safer, more efficient railroad resulting
in a better service product for our customers," he wrote.
Amtrak's ability to offer national rail service is governed by
separately negotiated track usage agreements with 30 different
railroads. All the deals share a common trait: They're "no fault,"
according to a September 2017 presentation delivered by Amtrak
executive Jim Blair as part of a Federal Highway Administration
seminar.
No fault means Amtrak takes full responsibility for its property and
passengers and the injuries of anyone hit by a train. The "host
railroad" that operates the tracks must only be responsible for its
property and employees. Blair called the decades-long arrangement "a
good way for Amtrak and the host partners to work together to get
things resolved quickly and not fight over issues of responsibility."
Amtrak declined to comment on Blair's presentation. But Amtrak's
history of not pursuing liability claims against freight railroads
doesn't fit well with federal officials and courts' past declarations
that the railroads should be held accountable for gross negligence and
willful misconduct.
After a 1987 crash in Chase, Maryland, in which a Conrail train crew
smoked marijuana then drove a train with disabled safety features past
multiple stop signals and into an Amtrak train ó killing 16 ó a federal
judge ruled that forcing Amtrak to take financial responsibility for
"reckless, wanton, willful, or grossly negligent acts by Conrail" was
contrary to good public policy.
Conrail paid. But instead of taking on more responsibility going
forward, railroads went in the opposite direction, recalls a former
Amtrak board member who spoke to the AP. After Conrail was held
responsible in the Chase crash, he said, Amtrak got "a lot of threats
from the other railroads."
The former board member requested anonymity because he said that
Amtrak's internal legal discussions were supposed to remain
confidential and he did not wish to harm his own business relationships
by airing a contentious issue.
Because Amtrak operates on the freight railroads' tracks and relies on
the railroads' dispatchers to get passenger trains to their
destinations on time, Amtrak executives concluded they couldn't afford
to pick a fight, the former Amtrak board member said.
"The law says that Amtrak is guaranteed access" to freights' tracks,
he said. "But it's up to the goodwill of the railroad as to whether
they'll put you ahead or behind a long freight train."
A 2004 New York Times series on train crossing safety drew attention to
avoidable accidents at railroad crossings and involving passenger trains
ó and to railroads' ability to shirk financial responsibility for
passenger accidents. In the wake of the reporting, the Surface
Transportation Board ruled that railroads "cannot be indemnified for
its own gross negligence, recklessness, willful or wanton misconduct,"
according to a 2010 letter by then-Surface Transportation Board chairman
Dan Elliott to members of Congress.
That ruling gives Amtrak grounds to pursue gross negligence claims
against freight railroadsó if it wanted to.
"If Amtrak felt that if they didn't want to pay, they'd have to
litigate it," said Elliott, now an attorney at Conner & Winters.
The AP was unable to find an instance where the railroad has brought
such a claim against a freight railroad since the 1987 Chase, Maryland,
disaster. The AP also asked Amtrak, CSX and the Association of American
Railroads to identify any example within the last decade of a railroad
contributing to a settlement or judgment in a passenger rail accident
that occurred on its track. All entities declined to provide such an
example.
Even in court cases where establishing gross negligence by a freight
railroad is possible, said Potrroff, the plaintiff's attorney, he has
never seen any indication that the railroad and Amtrak are at odds.
"You'll frequently see Amtrak hire the same lawyers the freight
railroads use," he said.
Ron Goldman, a California plaintiff attorney who has also represented
passenger rail accident victims, agreed. While Goldman's sole duty is
to get the best possible settlement for his client, he said he'd long
been curious about whether it was Amtrak or freight railroads which
ended up paying for settlements and judgments.
"The question of how they share that liability is cloaked in
secrecy," he said, adding: "The money is coming from Amtrak when our
clients get the check."
Pottroff said he has long wanted Amtrak to stand up to the freight
railroads on liability matters. Not only would it make safety a bigger
financial consideration for railroads, he said, it would simply be
fair.
"Amtrak has a beautiful defense ó the freight railroad is in control
of all the infrastructure," he said. But he's not expecting Amtrak to
use it during litigation over the Cayce crash.
"Amtrak always pays," he said.

Name: Esq
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 February 2018

This is unlike running a red signal.   The court system can get involved
immediately. CSX and their managers have broken federal law.   You may
have to go through the process to get your job back quicker per
arbitrator.   But you absolutely don't have to wait to file a demand
letter with CSX.  Then a complaint with the court system. Finally file
suit against CSX and their blind managers. 

This may take a few years but it will never see a court room.  CSX will
be writing all who suffered a check to settle. They will also offer the
men their job back or will be forced to pay future lost wages too.

To all the penis envy men.  Those men you despise.   When it's all
said and done.   Will have their job,seniority and more than they could
have saved in 20 years. Meanwhile you will continue to work and bad
mouth those wrongfully terminated.  ONly to watch those men be better
off financially  than they have ever or could have been.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 February 2018

Sucker for the day in Louisville, staley. Assigned to yard xb but took a
road job! Thanks union brother.

Name: RRJim
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 February 2018

Cond 30+

It gets tricky with exhausting all union options. One thing it doesn't
do is stop the statue of limitations for filing a lawsuit which is 2
years in most cases. I knew a case where CSX took a man out of service
for 6 months without ever filing charges against him. The unions did
everything they could and eventually got him back to work. The tricky
part he did go through the union to try and get back all lost wages.
CSX balked and did nothing. It went on for over 2 years. He was under
the impression hiring a lawyer could happen if all avenues were
exhausted. When that day came no lawyer would touch it because the
statue of limitations had expired. I don't know how hiring a lawyer
affects the unions handling of the case. That could be a problem.

Name: Mayihaveanother
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 February 2018

Bird Trex him be doing fine.   Steal be trying learn him too say sue
those mofos.    right after I got out I hired on in96 Can't  believe I
made it that many years.   I don't go out on medical after lawsuit. 
I'm gonna go out for management  or be a fry cook.  My days riding the
iron be done.    Thinks for asking bout Bird Trex Easy M.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 February 2018

Wonder why the sorry unions haven't done more on behalf of the people
for being wrongfully pulled oos for fmla misuse sorry unions don't
mind taking union does an not helping the men they should be included
in lawsuits too for mis reputation.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 February 2018

CSX cut the employee pool,jeopardizing safety.puts more money in top
managements pockets. So sad but true.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 February 2018

The long service employees they like to fire,because of amount of
holidays they have to pay etc can tie your pention up. The new junior
guy they can abuse the shit out of him.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 February 2018

Mayihaveanother

You worked enough to get an 11 grand bonus and got chopped for using
fmla. Just wow, can't believe this place.

Name: X-traH bored
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 February 2018

Are the Engineers voting on the hourly wage?

Seems like that rumor has resurfaced.

Any word from the Ble leadership?

Name: Co
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 February 2018

Really? 
I cant believe for one minute they can penalize anyone for making
aliving while fired. If that were the case they would have to audit
everyone's bank accounts and activities for extra cash deposited. I
sure the hell would work for cash. Guess I'll have to research thst
one.If the union takes too damn long and it's an extreme amount of
time to settle you can get your own lawyer and sue outside of the union
process. Read your LMRDA rights as a union member in the UNITED STATES.
Union members are protected by numerous federal laws against corrupt or
inept union actions. I called the international once after waiting a
year for a decision on a matter and told them I would be getting a
lawyer on my own to handle the situation. When they found out I knew my
federal rights and could do so they got real shitty and told me to go
right ahead. Said no lawyer could do as good a job as them. Funny how
fast the problem was solved.

Name: Retired Conductor
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 February 2018

Advice to anyone terminated. You cannot sue CSX until the union has
exhausted all of the appeals including arbitration. The only exceptions
are discrimination and injury claims. If the arbitrator puts you back to
work you will be made whole meaning you will be paid the amount of money
you would have earned working MINUS - any money you make on another job
while dismissed. Just a word of advice an under the table job will help
you stick It to CSX just a little more

Name: 6moremonths
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 February 2018

ape

I don't have fmla and hope I'll never will need it. 

Your statement is partially correct but how is someone who has a
certification by a health care provider.  That lays off on federally
protected UNPAID leave living off someone else.  Fmla is far from
welfare these men and women are not getting paid.  I seriously doubt a
licensed health care provider is going to falsify a certification and
place their license in jeopardy. 

I for one don't care If  one works or doesn't work.  I've always
made  about the same and have worked about the same.   I also believe
that those on fmla, displaced,union, sick, or whatever keep the junior
man working.  If or when csx finds X amount of people to marry the
railroad there will be massive layoffs.

Do you know what 2 men working 60hrs a week equals?
1 U.S Job loss.

Sue the hell out of them boys.  Include all supervisors has
defendants.

also for those that don't know this site is CSX SUCKS not CSX
SUCKASSES

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 February 2018

EAsy M
 
been doin good.  I seen my bonus is a shade over 11grand.all is good.
Got chopped Thursday.  been in talks to my lawyer.  be kicken back
drawing unemployment.  thanking after my settlement i be going out on 
disabilty   I dont thank i be ever wanting to go back.  hadnt had this
much fun since i was a kid

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 February 2018

EAsy M
 
been doin good.  I seen my bonus is a shade over 11grand.all is good.
Got chopped Thursday.  been in talks to my lawyer.  be kicken back
drawing unemployment.  thanking after my settlement i be going out on 
disabilty   I dont thank i be ever wanting to go back.  hadnt had this
much fun since i was a kid

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 February 2018

Mantle Ridge cannot sell their stock for 5 years. 4 more to go. 


Monetizing Hilalís gains at Mantle Ridge could be harder than the
success at Pershing Square, however. For one thing, the fund is set up
as a special-purpose vehicle with private-equity-like terms. Mantle
Ridgeís investors all have different terms, but typically SPVs charge
between 10 and 30 percent above a hurdle. Mantle Ridgeís investors have
a fiveĖyear lockup, and Hilal wonít get paid until that time, at which
time his fund will sell its CSX stake.

Name: Reality
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 February 2018

Hey ape  

When everything I posted happens I'll be sure to come back and tell
you I told you so! Seniority might secure you having a job but it
won't secure your choice of one. Just your vacation time. Better wake
up. Your in denile.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 February 2018

Wages rose 2.9 last year.  What dis we get?

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 February 2018

On market watch CSX was buy, predicts hit over 72 bucks. I say it will
go bellow 40 !!!!!

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 February 2018

If you do nothing and hold on to your csx stock, you will lose a lot of
money that was supposed to be there for retirement. Its not a garuntee,
but it is very probable. There are safer places to put your money right
now that are nowhere near as volatile as csx. Should have got rid of it
when it was 59 bucks. It's 51 bucks now. Just know that when mantle
ridge starts dumping it will be too late because when they are done
every investor will know and they will dump to.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 February 2018

I bet most people that complain about Fmla use are Republican and most
that are all for it are Democrat. I'm not trying to start anything
just curious about that.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 February 2018

Any word about any or info if anybody has been terminated for fmla
misuse. Give some details

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 February 2018

Conductor 1-10

Got their point across.  Where do you work?   Men are laying off FM as
much now as before.  CSX can't scare a man to good health.   This
place turns out fat broken down bodies.  If 60% of the men are on Fmla
it surprise me the number wasn't higher.

P.S. Go fuck yourself. Hope you get laid off punk.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 February 2018

Con

You're one of those who has a standard for everyone else that you
don't Measure up to.

It's easy to talk about another man's sin.     Ask yourself have you
ever stole time from your beloved CSX.  Waited to tie up to miss a
train catch your off day. Have you ever passed the work along to the
next Crew.  Talked to everyone in the Crew room instead of starting
your deadhead.  Took your time to kill a train.  Laid off Union.  Laid
off sick when you felt fine. Called the man to get flipped home when
there was rested crews. Cried to get the boards cut.  Put in pl days
before anyone else could. 
Bitches like you are the worse.  Complain about everyone when they're
not around just to suck them off the next time you see them.   You
might not lay off Fmla but your doing other shit just as bad or worse. 
 I hear the men I work with that live on the rails tell me how they
support their family.   I ask them which one and does the current
family know you? They are the most miserable, untrustworthy men like
yourself.

Save your self righteous bullshit for your fat lazy cheating wife.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 February 2018

Reality,
Hey retard, good seniority will guarantee you that you still have a
job. I bet you're one of those negative fucks, that does nothing but
bitch all the time, if the government was handing out free checks
you'd bitch because you had to stand in line.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 February 2018

they terminated several men across the system today.  One I know works
all the time.  Has 3 kids and his wife is in bad shape.  So much for a
fair an impartial hearing.

Name: Reality
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 February 2018

Crews 
The facts.
The pay rates Will change.
Seniority will be a thing of the past.
Super pools will be implemented.
Work rules will be drastically reduced.
Crews will swap trains at a halfway point and bypass the hotels. The
plans are already on the table. 
Yard and road work will be combined. Everyone will become multi purpose
employees. Crews will be reduced.

It doesn't matter what happens to the stock. It doesn't matter how
they restructure. It doesn't matter what assets they sell. You are a
blue collar in the field worked with absolutely no control how CSX
handles its business. You are no body. You will come to work and bitch
every day like you always do and do your job as your told or be
fired.You can't even control you union's let along a corporation as
big as CSX. So learn to adapt to the changes. Keep your mouth shut and
do your job as your instructed. There's not a damn thing you can do
about it. The union's have no federal rights that prevents CSX from
restructuring. If you still have a job when it is all done then
consider yourself blessed. Do you job and take your paycheck. If this
pisses You off TOO BAD! The truth hurts. You cut your balls off years
ago so deal with the game you are being given. Conform or leave.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 February 2018

Ape

Yep, then comes the merger or acquisitions.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 February 2018

CSX stock still over valued, I donít know how much more CSX is willing
to sell to try prop. Up the stock. There will be lots of corrections
still with CSX stock. Before this is over I can see it around thirty
bucks. My two cents

Name: RRJim
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 February 2018

Other

STFU! Don't talk about things you know nothing about. With CSX it's
just another day different idiots running it. I've been around the
railroad since the '70s. John Snow in the '90s nearly sent CSX in to
bankruptcy with a war with the NS over Conrail. Snow didn't spend
anything on the infrastructure which deteriorated. His successor Mike
Ward wasn't any better. All this crap going on with harsh attitudes
towards employees was all started under Ward. Ward wanted to be like
the NS so he hired Tony Ingram & David Brown from the NS. That's when
harsh attendance policies came about along with taking away authority
from management at every terminal. That any infraction no matter how
small was taken to an investigation level. That brought about the point
system. They had a purpose to flood the unions with defending an
overload of BS charges. 

Storing locomotives, cars etc.. nothing new. Selling/leasing off lines
nothing new. Furloughing & displacing employees nothing new. It's been
going on for many years. All the railroads do it. Go ask those who work
on the CP, CN, BNSF, UP, NS the list goes on.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 February 2018

RRJIM, DON'T BE AN IDIOT!
Stick to talking about what you know. 
A lot of RR stock is down, but other RR still have all their assets.
They didn't sell equipment and track, store equipment, or layoff 20%
of their manpower. They are still at 100% operating power and could
take on more business if needed. CSX is operating at max capacity right
now and struggling. If a major contract came up for bids CSX couldn't
handle it without making big changes. If Trump needed massive amounts
of concrete for the wall, coal made a comeback, or U.S. goes toe to toe
with N. Korea CSX couldn't support the extra business without
restructuring, and restructuring costs a lot of money.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 February 2018

Stocks are in a market correction. It has nothing to do with CSX. I
easily looked up the competitors NS, UP, CP, CN etc... all are down.
The Dow Transports were hit hard yesterday. To put it bluntly with some
of these posts, Why do you want to crap where you eat?

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 February 2018

It would be foolish to go to an hourly rate at the present rates.
Especially when there is already a railroad the IC that has been under
hourly rates for years. They got around $35 an hour to start. If you
take pay raises at 2.5% per year (being generous) for 12 years that
rate would be $45.50 an hour today. Personally I don't think it works
for a any of the major Class 1 railroads. Not without reducing manpower
significantly. Better off with the current trip rates.

Name: LC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 February 2018

Eng

The hourly rate post is correct.    It has never been that high.   I
hear everyday men think it will be 50plus an hour wrong .  My post is
correct sorry.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 February 2018

I'm glad my wife makes more money than me.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

It's only an agreement for five years.  If anything changes they can
pull out.

Name: Eng
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

Whoever posted the rates is dead wrong. Made up numbers to discourage
all. I know for a fact the first negotiation for engineers was offered
38 hour.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 February 2018

To take CSX into the future,the board of director,has approved funding.
To hire the Long Island Medium,to try and get communication going with
Hh. If this is effective,Foote will be demoted. Investors will be
notified if this is successful.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 February 2018

Investors gave a five year commitment to lock in the money for CSX. But
trust me if the company gets managed badly and other events that make
stock  decline. The investors would get out ASAP.Just like the
collective agreement CSX has with the union employees. CSX is not
committed to honouring the collective agreement that they signed.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 February 2018

If stock starts to tank watch how fast,mantle ridge and friends will
bail out. Other railways said they would not look at acquiring CSX
until stock was under forty bucks.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 February 2018

Yes the article below say investors committed to lock in for five years
with mantle. But with Hh going to hell. It could be changed in the
courts

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 February 2018

a

Read more at: 
https://thefly.com/landingPageNews.php?id=2490698

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 February 2018

Yes the man is right there is no five year lock. Investors will sell
when they want.and to guy that said put equipment back in service,a lot
of it has been sold off. Hump yards they can sell the steel for
scrap,and develop the land.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

What would happen if all the changes reverted back to pre Harrison? Like
if we opened all humps back up, put all the jobs back on including
herders and utility. Took all equipment out of service and put back in
service good for service. FACT. 
I just threw FACT in there because it's kinda fun and I wanted to be
cool, but sound like a dill deaux at the same time.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 February 2018

You are an idiot if you think mantle ridge is stuck for another 4 years,
they can sell out and be gone by morning. FACT.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

No such thing as a 5 year lock and hold.  Fact

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

Mantle Ridge and their investors are not going anywhere, they have a
five year lock and hold, of which one has been served. FACT.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 February 2018

Things did not start to change at cp until Hh left and ackman took his
money and ran. But we still have the ceo snake creel. As long as mantle
rid is still invested in CSX your going to get just more of the same
bull shit. But if stock keeps dropping mantle might pull out sooner
than you think!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 February 2018

I posted the same thing yesterday, the gig is up with precision
railroading. Once the cuts stop and the sale is over. With loss of
customers. The stock will start to reflect all the nonsense.

Name: Oh my 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

How does the super pools work ? Does it do Away with xtra board ? Is it
1 pool and you go anywhere ? Will it cut jobs ?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 08 February 2018

CSX stock down another $2.50 today. Net gain for the past 52 weeks is
less than $3.00 a share. I guess PSR doesn't benefit anyone. I first
told everyone to get rid of it when Harrison became CEO. The gains were
already made just prior. When Harrison became sick I said it again, dump
your stock. When he died a few days later I said it again. 
If you are holding on to it hoping to get your losses back, DON'T. The
ride is over, has been for a while. CSX will have to spend a lot of
money to get back on track again. It is all down hill from here for the
stock.

CSX IS CRUMBLING AND WILL HAVE TO REBUILD ONCE IT BOTTOMS OUT.  

My guess is CSX stock will soon hit mid to low 40's and we will change
command again at that point. Sell now and get back in once it drops.

Name: HR
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Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

FACT

WRONG! The back pay would not have been paid under the hourly rate. The
back pay was figured on what your wages were at the time period that
your agreement had not been settled. It would not have been figured
under a new formula such as the hourly rate. That is why it is called
BACK PAY! Wages you should have earned if you would have settled the
agreement. 

 And as for the post that the hourly rate will decrease your pay under
trip rates, do the math. You figured it out. Say a trip takes you 12
hour to get there- On the hourly rate at 25.30 for a conductor at 10
hours>253.00 plus 2 hours overtime>37.95= $290.95 that would cost you
considerably if you already get a flat trip rate of much more. Good
luck.

Name: Signal department
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

I have been a signal man for csx for more than five years. Recent rumors
of job cuts have left everyone with the attitude of screw it i am
getting laid off so why try to do good work. Trucks are trashed, tools
are broken or left laying on the job site, and quality of work are all
directly related to this new attitude. For example a 1 year employee
who worked at a warehouse making $9 an hour before csx hired him is
willing to learn everything he can about signal systems while  a 3 year
employee spends most of the day complaining about csx, playing on his
cellphone, and generally getting paid to make everyone else miserable.
Seniority determines who stays and whoís cut. Good luck if the cuts
happen because work quality will be trash.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 February 2018

https://www.ble-t.org/pr/news/newsflash.asp?id=6065


ITS ABOUT TIME BLET.   ABOUT 2 WEEKS BEHIND SMART

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 February 2018

http://www.tcrc657.com/news/2014/Hourly_Rate_Notice.pdf

Name: Fact 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

The reason that the hourly rate is back on the table is because of the
backpay. The company didn't want to Backpay under the hourly rate
because it would have been a huge increase in payment. Fact

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 February 2018

Louisville:
Roten, Gibbs, and Woods are the company sukkas for Louisville again
today. Thanks union brothers!

Name: Con1
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 08 February 2018

Roselake is being sold to the UP. UP just had someone in the building
measuring all the offices.

Name: Getting Rich
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

Why has the hourly rate come up again. Utu will never agree because they
aren't out for our best interest on a good living income however they
do want the most union paying employees. The two are contradictory. 
As for doing extra work, who in the hell ever has time, not where I
work. As far as claims go, when do they ever pay them anyway. 

All this is a moot point anyway, NEVER GONNA HAPPEN

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 February 2018

Train accidents, customers, Fmla, stock manipulation. withholding
information.

The legal team  is going to be busy in 2018.

Name: LC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

In talks about doing away with motels. The hourly rate is at 25.30 for
conductor and 26.70 for engineer.   There will be no more claims paid
as of last Monday.  All will be on self supporting super pools.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 February 2018

Someguy

When Hunter Harrison was CEO at CN the BLE on the Illinois Central/CN
went to hourly rate. The UTU followed suit latter. This was around
10-12 years ago. It started out at $35 an hour. A basic day was based
on 10 hours so $350 a day with overtime after 10 hours. It eliminated
the distinction between road & yard. When a crew got called they
didn't know what they were working. If a crew took at road train from
point A to B if they had time left they could switch out cars in the
yard if they still had time go dump some ballast etc.. so for 12 hours
you would do whatever they want. The guys I spoke with on the IC stated
afterwards they were deadheaded home so no more lodging. They made a lot
of OT. It boosted their income greatly while we were making
$80,000-$100,000 on a good high mileage run, they were making
$135,000-$150,000 on the hourly rate. Even their extra boards were
$90,000+. One important issue that the GC for the BLE secured was job
protection. That anyone working at the time it was implemented was
protected they could not be furloughed seeing this would eventually cut
jobs though attrition. I know the BLE on CSX & some other railroads
tried to get a similar contract with on-property agreements but the
railroads wanted no part of it.

Name: reality check
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

Wake up idiots!!!!

The writing is on the wall. We will all be on an hourly rate. All trip
rates will be abolished. There will be no assigned limits. You wont
need them. You will work every direction on every job. There will no
need for locals. You will get called to do any job. It will take the
company a long time to get everyone qualified to do all the work but
they will eventually get you to do it. If for some reason you don't
get called for a particular job because it just doesn't come your way
on the one big super pool you will only be allowed 1 pilot for one day
for a refresher. 

The only upside to this is you wont need to worry about filing claims
for out of route, mishandled on the job or being screwed out of double
tickets. No penalties for combining yard and road tickets. This will
decrease the work of your union representatives. 
When this happens it will be time to file a petition against our unions
and demand our union dues are decreased. They are already some of the
highest dues paid by any union member in the country. We don't need to
line their pockets if their work is cut in half and our seniority rights
have been demolished.  So sit back and wait for the changes to happen
because they will. You have lost all control of your unions. the only
thing you will have left is to go after them to reduce the dues and
keep your money they don't deserve.

Name: Someguy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

Also at the meeting found out that the utu signed off with the company
allowing them to miss call the 1st out pool conductor if running the
roster for a yard job.

Name: Someguy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

So I went to a union meeting 2 days ago and it sounds like the company
wants to discuss hourly rate again. It also sounds like all the local
and general committees are open to discussion with the company on this.
My question is any idea what the hourly rate would be? I guess the soo
railroad already has it.anyone on this board ever talk to any engineers
that work over there to see what $$ they make.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 February 2018

Was there a memo or bullitin put out on hump yard reopening. If not just
another rumour!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 February 2018

Anyone here anything about a hump or two opening back up?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 February 2018

Taking calls that you don't have to is ensuring that the guys layed off
stay layed off, the guys near the bottom soon get layed off, and the
company keeps manpower at the lowest numbers possible. If you are
taking calls then you're a chump, company sukkaz that don't care
about your coworkers. I hope you need someone to help you out sometime.
There are a lot of cutback engineers right now that ain't getting
marked up because of chumps like you. We all know who you are, and yes
we all resent you and talk smack about you in the locker room.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 February 2018

I have worked the railroad my whole life. To the men that feels his
needs are more important than other members. You may be right,but when
members are trying to stick together to preserve the future of the
railroad jobs. You all should be on the same team thatís the only
chance there is to protect your jobs. They are really asking for
everyone to help the cause. You might need there help one day. And they
could turn there back on you. Iíve seen this many times at the railway.
You all have to stick together..This Hh hype precision railroad Is
done.I predict there is going to be a change of power at the top.

Name: money hungry
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 February 2018

I think until one of you assholes want to step up and pay my bills I
will continue to take calls.  None of you know my financial situation.
some of you are probably the cheap asses that save your sandwich bags
to reuse.  I didn't take this job to sit at the house and starve.  If
I was a gambling man, and I am, I bet you guys that are whining are
higher up on the roster and don't have to worry about if you are going
to have a job next month.  The railroad is 'feast or famine'...get it
while you can!

Name: tiredtoo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 February 2018

Loco 30 

hang it up. You can complain until the cows come home. There are those
who are self centered and so money hungry that they will take every
call every time the phone rings. THEY DONT CARE. We have all been
preaching this for years and they don't give a shit. I remember a guy
when I first got hired that was doing that and every single time he was
first out they bumped him. That was when we didn't have this stupid bid
system for engineers. People got together and watched his every move and
just about starved him out. People would come from another terminals in
our district just to bump him. He only worked when they ran the roster.
Well he eventually started documenting every time he was first out and
after he accumulated enough evidence he took it to the GC and sent a
letter to the international complaining about harassment from fellow
union members because he was supporting the company and helping them
out when they were short handed. No one was violating the union
agreement exercising their right to make a seniority move but the LCs
started telling people that is they kept it up they would have to do an
investigation as to the constant pattern of his being bumped and claims
of harassment and only working on roster calls. It just goes to show
that even the union jumped on board to help him out. He finally quit
and took a street job.  So if you want these guys to feel any pain for
this you got limited choices. If he's a conductor then bump his butt
while you still got bumps. If he's and engineer on the bid card then
your shit out of luck unless the guys start making it personal.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 February 2018

Louisville has to be the absolute worst as far as people taking jobs
that they don't have to! Do you not realize that every time you
"help" the company you hurt yourself and co-workers? Everyday there
are at least 2 jobs that get filled by a volunteer that didn't have to
take the job. It's usually the same 8 people that do this. If 2 trains
per day were missed because of man power shortages then they would have
to add turns! Stop wrecking the jobs!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 February 2018

Retired NS here. I remember when George Bush was president and we had a
union meeting with our GC president. He said the current administration
has been working very hard at trying to repeal FELA, and the biggest
reason it has not happened was because the  war in Iraq was such an
administrative and political distraction from other would be agendas.
With all respect to those who have lost lives or have been injured in
train accidents due to management incompetence and cost cutting, the
danger of FELA being repealed has probably past.  At least for a while.
A silver lining.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 February 2018

My 36 years as a carman,Iím so grateful I never found anyone mangled or
killed on the job. That was my biggest fear to come onto that while
working in the yard. People just have no idea how dangerous the
railroad is.

Name: Ape
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 February 2018

Ape 

Not the first one and it won't be the last. There will always be
mistakes made. Even if it isn't the crews fault you'll get some idiot
running gates or walking on the tracks not paying attention. People get
killed every year by trains. Just like traffic accident. Crews get
tired, rushed by management and strung out by the new style. Mistakes
are inevitable. Dispatchers make mistakes because their under stress
too. The railroad is a evil indusrty unless your sitting in a million
dollar leather chair in Jacksonville!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 February 2018

An accident that cost lives,sure leaves a dark cloud hanging over
workers in the railway industry!

Name: Cond
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 February 2018

Blah blah blah.... 

The switch wasn't lined back. We all get what happened. Why,only the
crew knows why they forgot. Speculate till the cows come home.  

Now to more important things. Hey Roselake conductor! You still
haven't told us who the TM was that told you that you were going to
take trains over to the Missouri side like they did in conrail. 
Did your engineers notice the company blew EVANSVILLE into the job
description for roselake on their bid cards????  Shows evansville as
their away from home terminal as well as roselake. A couple of LCs
didn't even notice. We had to tell them. F...king real man. Damn LCs
didn't even notice. Companies up to changing all the jobs and doing
what BNSF is doing. Make you go all over the damn country. 
You better start paying attention on how they are paying you and how
many miles your betting paid. You can bet your ass the union's will
let them screw you out of actual miles run. They have been stealing
from us for years calling road crews recrewing long pools "road
switchers" and stealing miles and combining recrew tickets. They will
steal the pennies off a dead man's eyes. Watch your tickets and your
earning statements. File those claims. Start a paper trail. You need it
so you got proof when you finally strike against your union for letting
this shit happen for the last 3 years!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 February 2018

Ya some one screwed up, that switch should of been lined. Just common
sense!!

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 February 2018

Ape < than a year

The articles I've read not really sure if it was the conductor from
the train that was shoved off or another one who was assigned to the
switches under the signal suspension to make sure everything was lined
for the next train. I've read where AMTRAK 91 waited 5 miles up the
track till the TD got the OK that the route was lined. Lot's of
questions. It was discussed briefly at the C&O Railroad Retiree lunch
yesterday. Back in the day under signal suspension or if signals were
down that when approaching absolute signals and/or switches we had to
stop to make sure the route was lined. We've had signal suspensions
where there was a switchman positioned at mainline switches and we had
to get permission by radio to proceed. Like I said lot's of questions.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 February 2018

Louisville
Company suck asses for the day, Woods, Roten, and Smith. All assigned
to the yard extra board and all took jobs that they didn't have to.
Keep it up idiots, they will never add turns. Way to help the company
cut jobs off! Bravo union brothers!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 February 2018

Mugshots.com ID: 69908027

Robert Pines occupation cable installer and convicted felon...

Age: 60

Home Address: Sullivan
Arrest Date: 11/21/2013
Info: was arrested on the charge of Tampering With a Witness. A
warrant
was issued and he remains in custody.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 February 2018

From what I can figure out CSX train backed into that track. Head end
was 700 feet from the switch. Why did the crew not walk up and restore
that switch to the main. ???? Someone left a trap

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 February 2018

http://www.wctv.tv/content/news/GSP-investigating-crash-in-downtown-Hahira-472749653.html

RAIL SAFETY MANUAL FOR DUMMIES

ARTICE 7 --Blow a train 60 mph through a rail construction zone you
will be castrated.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 February 2018

Has anyone been fired yet for a track and CSX accident?

Name: retired union rep!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 February 2018

UTU/BLET Supporters

Well Indy crews,,,,,, Your union agreement work rules and working
conditions are being changed right in front of your faces. Your
seniority privileges are being abolished and reduced to nothing. Your
days of earning the right to retire on a job close to home and earn the
highest wages are over. You are all becoming just one big herd of work
mules that will be whipped and beat into submission. Why you ask??? 
Because you did nothing but sit on your asses and cry and whine and not
stand up to the unions for not fighting the good fight for you. Not one
petition circulated to your International reps. NOT  ONE SINGLE LETTER
TO THE EDITOR. NOT ONE SINGLE UPROAR THAT GOT THE ATTENTION OF THE
PRESS.  Bitched and moaned and didn't demand your GC office take it
public.  You all just stood  there and did nothing. Don't you idiots
know you don't have to strike to get heard. You have every right by
federal law to organize as a group and take your issues to the press.
The company cant do a damn thing to interfere with your organizing
rights and to take it to the press that your pissed off that your
unions are sitting in the laps of the company and letting them rape
you. they try and suspend you for organizing a protest group against
your union they will see a court order injunction thrown on them so
fast it will make their heads spin! Your unions will be jumping through
hoops to shut you up. They dont want the media running with the
story!Hope your all proud of yourselves. Now go pay those over inflated
dues and kiss your unions ass along with the carriers! Every one of you
would make Jimmy Hoffa proud!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 February 2018

https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/02/06/incorrect-information-from-csx-employee-led-to.html?ana=yahoo&yptr=yahoo

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 February 2018

Shortly before the 2:35 a.m. crash, Amtrak 91 stopped five miles before
the site of the collision and waited for a go-ahead from a CSX
dispatcher, per CSX protocol when a signaling system is being worked
on, CSX documents show.

After the CSX conductor on site told a dispatcher that the switch was
properly aligned, the dispatcher gave the go-ahead for the Amtrak
train, which was carrying 139 passengers and eight crew members bound
from New York to Miami, to proceed.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 February 2018

Mugshots.com ID: 69908027

Robert Pines occupation cable installer and convicted felon...

Age: 60

Home Address: Sullivan
Arrest Date: 11/21/2013
Info: was arrested on the charge of Tampering With a Witness. A warrant
was issued and he remains in custody.

Name: pissed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 February 2018

fuck you FOOTE YOU PC OF SHIT AND A FUCK YOU PAUL HINLAL HOPE BOTH DROP
DEAD LIKR THAT DICKHEAD HARRISON.. AND DIDNT FORGRT YOU MARK WALLACE
YOU ARE A SPECAIL pc OF SHIT.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 February 2018

Once the minnie me Hh gang have nothing left to sell and no more
employees to cut.They better have a steady revenue stream. As to date
they have lost many customers.so we will see how much longer they will
push the Hh plan. Before they they hit the reset button and mantle
ridge gets out of dodge.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 February 2018

Well Name: DMaster all known as Jens Bang or L@N phony dispatcher in the


RAIL SAFETY MANUAL FOR DUMMIES
Article 1---Train crews don't pass your sight stopping distance
because your brakes suck and you have no steering.
ARTICLE 2---MARK WELL THE MAIN LINE because who knows who is going to
be working the switch on the wrong side of the tracks.
Article 3 --- Have all main lines on the OUTSIDE track so something
can't go wrong two ways.

So the train going north starting at Dixiana Road with a 10 mph speed
limit for 6 months ---has a crossing signal to check---a track signal
which was dead in 2011 right in the crossing signal lights---and a
"W" whistle post for Pallet Drive crossing---the overpass view shows
a pole mounted spotlight on the switch on the other side of the tracks
which the manual for Dummies says a sitting train would block the
light. 

Google map 33.9049711,-81.0668294
33.9154838,-81.0620867 Dixiana Road August 2011
1825 0.004654 634687X CSX SC LEXINGTON CAYCE PALLET DRIVE 0 0 0 0 0 SS
12 2 60 NO 2 53
1687 0.005470 634693B CSX SC LEXINGTON CAYCE DIXIANA RD 0 0 0 0 0 GT 10
2 10 YES 2 478 
(06 22 2017)

What's really scary is the street view of the next overpass which was
made by robbing a beaver dam for the support props.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for N/A
Posted: 05 February 2018

Congratulations CSX for money down the drain. The cost of restructuring
all of CSX starting March 7th 2017 with Harrison has far exceeded the
performance.

February 6th 2017 CSX stock was at $47.26/Share
March 7th 2017 Harrison becomes CEO, CSX stock at $48.44/Share
February 6th 2018 CSX stock drops 5.9% to $51.99/Share 

February 6th 2017 to February 6th 2018 with all the ups and downs the
stock has a net gain of $4.73/Share for the past 52 weeks

Now, a $4.73/Share gain on stock that cost around 50 bucks ain't bad
as long as you still have all of your assets and didn't sell a bunch
of stuff and fire a bunch of people. But when you have a $4.73/Share
gain and some of that gain is from storing equipment, firing personnel,
and not maintaining things routinely and most of that gain is based on
the hype that Harrison brought, then you did a horrible job with CSX. 

WE WANT WARD BACK NOW! OPEN THE DAMN HUMPS AND REVERT BACK TO A FLUID
FUNCTIONING RAILROAD THAT PLEASES CUSTOMERS AND DOESN'T PISS OFF THE
STB. HUNTER HARRISON AND ALL OF HIS METHODS WERE COMPLETE CRAP THE
COWARD KNEW NOTHING ABOUT RAILROADING AND ANYONE THAT EVER WORKED WITH
OR FOR HIM SHOULD BE BANNED FROM ALL CSX PROPERTY! YOU ARE ALL TOXIC TO
RAILROADING! 

CONGRATULATIONS ON A FAILED PLAN!

Name: Esq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 February 2018

Wiener

Carrier broke federal law and they will be held accountable.  There
aren't blackout dates on fmla.  Pulling men OOS over Christmas was a
pre planned move.  Issuing notices about laying off over the holidays
is interference in itself.  Carrier and individual supervisors will be
held accountable.  If you're a supervisor who played a role in this. 
Be ready to get your checkbook out. 

Have a Nice Day

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2018

Been out of pocket since investigation for fmla anyone fired yet..

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 February 2018

CSXís accident rate, based on train miles traveled, has been rising the
past three years, according to the Federal Railroad Administration. The
rate jumped 13 percent in the first ELEVEN MONTHS of 2017,

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 February 2018

When I inspected a train and found Bad Orders. The car Forman would come
look at the car and say it was ok to travel. What I did was put the car
number and defect in the computer,and put information in my personal
book. The car foreman would have to go into the computer and remove the
Bad Order cars .So now if something happened it would show a footprint
that the car foreman removed this from computer. And my ass is now
covered.These foremen do not want to take a delay on any of these
trains. They cross there fingers and hope these trains make it to
destination. They are so scared that if they delay a train now that
they will get demoted. The new culture right across the board is fear
and intimidation. And it works with a lot of people. Who can afford to
loose there job when families will be affected. The railway has safety
rules, but if you push them the chance you could loose your job is
possible. This kind of culture that the ceo has created has to stop
from the top guy down.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2018

In Louisville they don't give you time to look at the bullitens on yard
jobs.  We are insubordanant some how if we ain't out of the locker
room.  So I frankly do care of I miss something.  That's the culture
they created.

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 February 2018

Get my money from the suits I be filing maybe I go to Super Bowl 2019
baby  watch my Eagles repeat.  Be riding clean up in their.  I shut my
lids I can see it all coming to pass.  Me 2 maybe 3 blondes my new sled
gonna be nice

Name: Rambo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2018

I wish CSX would go ahead and fire me. My board was held January 16 and
I canít wait to be fired so I can go ahead with lawsuits since I have
Fmla and dr excuses

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 February 2018

Every morning when I went into work,we had our briefing. As a train
inspector we where handed a stack of bullutans to read on any changes
etc. Then we had to sign a sheet of paper that we received and read
them. Now if we did not abide buy these rules and something happened we
where held accountable. The first thing in an investigation is did you
receive a copy of bullitin blah blah. If you said yes. The next
question is why did you not follow,directions on the bullitin. Now they
have you,all those rules and training you sign for lets company off the
hook. Sure they want you to take short cuts to save time. But when the
shit hits the fan itís on you. And management will play stupid that
they new nothing about any short cuts. I learned that the hard way.
Itís better to alway go by the book in todayís climate of railroading.
Cause if they need a scape goat your it. This Amtrak accident they are
going to blame the little guy,they always do.

Name: Divided Union
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2018

Louisville
Webb assigned to yard extra board but took a road job. THANKS UNION
BROTHER FOR MAKING SURE THE COMPANY CAN GET BY WITHOUT ADDING TURNS!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 February 2018

To trainman before you leave the yard you should have all your paper
work for your train. When you take your training and you are given
manuals of all the rules and regulations,for your job as a trainman.
And you sign your name that you understand the manuals and you received
them. Now if something happens to your train that is the first thing
they will ask.so why did you not follow the instructions from your
training manuals. The TM that told you you donít need the paper work is
incompetent,and should of been challenged. Itís your ass buddy. I would
have my rule books on hand to challenge them. At least say you are
doing this under protest. They are trying to save time,and someone just
was lazy and never put package together for your train. Iíve heard tm
tell crews  to leave the yard without proper air brake pressure. Said
it will charge on the road. If you listen to there stupid demands,and
are swayed that easy maybe your in the wrong job.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 February 2018

Railway Age Article - "CSX: A mighty fine line, but Ö"


http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/blogs/frank-n-wilner/csx-a-mighty-fine-line-but.html?channel=00

Name: Curious 
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Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 February 2018

FRA 
Got a question for you. Had 2 tm's get into an argument over paper
work for a train. Yard tm ordered crew out of the terminal without
paperwork specfic for their train and route. The line of road tm told
them not to leave without it. There were questions about restrictions
on the train. When exactly is it okay for crews to run on a main line
without paperwork identifying their train. I already know we better
have hazmat paperwork . A lot of times they don't provide us with
clearance  bureau messages. Say we don't need it for the line we are
on even though we have double stack trains. I thought it was FRA LAW 
that the engineer was to be provided with a legible tonage graph. If
you don't have paperwork how does the engineer know for a fact what to
put in the trip optimized program? How about the information they blow
into the PTC? Just what exactly is legal or illegal?

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 February 2018

They send criminals to prison,because he is a threat to public safety.
When these ceo makes cuts employees etc. The first thing the
governments should be asking,is will these cuts jeopardize public or
employee safety. But with these industries that are self regulated.
They literally get away with crimes that affect employees and public.
My grampa was a conductor. My gramma identified him by the ring on the
two fingers they found. They just threw money at her no one was held
accountable.

Name: 
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Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 February 2018

After these accidents you have all these self important suits step up to
the microphone,polititions, cops, NTSB,company heads. Talk with such
concern maybe shed a tear or two. And say we will investigate this and
get all the facts so it never happens again. And the people responsible
will face the consequences,the people responsible are the people in
front of the microphone. They have the power to inforce the laws and
regulations,but do nothing. Itís all just a big gong show.

Name: Cond
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 February 2018

Car repair  

You are 100% right on with the comment that crews are being sent out on
territories they aren't familiar with. The FRA LAW COVERING
QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED BY LAW is being blatantly ignored and
management is doing everything in their power to intimidate crews into
taking trains were they have no business going. The crews are scared to
call the FRA ON THE spot and turn then in. What's worse is I know for a
fact that some engineers are using the conductor on their train as a
pilot because they want to rush and get off the train just to get the
job done after the conductor tells them not to worry they won't let
them get in trouble. Everyone of them should be FIRED. They do nothing
but make those who want to follow the law and stand up to management
look like trouble makers. These morons do nothing but undermine our
rights to demand they follow the laws and rules as they expect us too. 
There are dispatchers who even think that if your running with PTC they
can order you to run on unqualified territory. 

These Super pools are going to be trouble from hell. There are hundreds
of employees who haven't run for numerous years on all the territory as
well as old heads who never did.CSX WILL CUT CORNERS AND VIOLATE FRA LAW
to rush the training through. You can bet your life on it. They don't
give a crap about the training and safety of crews. They have shown
this time and time again. 
It will be up to the crews to put a stop to this. I will personally do
my part and report every incident I witness that breaks FRA LAW OR CSX
OPERATING PRACTICES. If a fellow brother gets called by the FRA and it
is determined he chose to do it on his own then too bad in dealing with
the consequences.  It's not being a rat. It's being someone who has
had enough of the balless wonders and worthless UNION REPS who won't
do what's right.  I hope there are more guys out there that feel the
same way. We have all let CSX trample on us for way too long. Grow some
balls and do what's right or hit the road. They are going to cram this
down your throat whether you like it or not. The least you can do is
stand for what's right!

Name: 
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 February 2018

Fatigue is to blame.  The crew was not allowed to nap on their
unpredictable schedule.   12 plus hours staring out the window reading
rule books.  Crew wasn't thinking clearly all could have been
prevented with real work schedules and the right to nap on duty.

Name: 
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Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 February 2018

Over the years I have seen lots of technology advancesements in the
railway industry. Big money spent on state of the art equipment. But at
the end of the day, the weekest link in the chain is the human being. I
have been to many wrecks and it blows my mind how the simplest mistake
can cause such damage and loss of life. These big companies preach
safety for this and that. But want to rush the employee on every task
to think they are saving a dollar. And there is no money saved when
they have these accidents. They canít figure that out. One thing that
blows me away that they have a wreck estimater on a computer program.
So they expect a wreck here and there. To them part of doing business.
Safety first my ass.

Name: RRJim
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 February 2018

Isn't it that under a signal suspension running EC-1 authority that all
switches would have to be ascertained that they're lined correctly?
That a train can run max authorized speed for that train in between
signals & sidings but approaching using caution.

Name: 
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Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 February 2018

Ya your right a person can guess all he wants. But one thing I know that
is all the employee cuts ,most likely played a part in this. And if crew
timed out ,someone else should of taken responsibility for that switch.
It should make more sense once they have heard tapes and reviewed
statements. Iíve seen this show more than once!!!

Name: DMaster
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2018

Mr. Pines, you have never posted anything on this site that would
indicate that you would know your ass from a hole in the geound.

As for this incident with Amtrak-  either there's a lot of no account
morons from outside CSX on here, or just the dumbest railroaders. 
Quite honestly, until they review the dispatcher tapes, there are no
facts regarding why the switch was still lined for the siding while
Amtrac had an EC-1 authority under the signal suspension for that track
segment.  One of two things happened.  The crew reported lining the
switch back for the main, or the crew had expired on hours of service,
and were unable to complete that task and reported that.  I believe
that a lengthy review of the dispatcher conversations will likely
reveal a sloppiness in the conveyance of information.  I regularly work
in a sub with 2 dispatchers who I would remand to remedial
training,mormflat out dismiss for sloppy radio procedure.  If I hear,
"yea, go ahead", and affirmations without specifically identifying
the party/train being addressed, I am going to scream.  So there
actually may be more to this than many are assuming.

Name: Mayihaveanother
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 February 2018

Eagles baby.   At the crib partying all nite. Like to take this time and
thanks those that made it all possible.  It hadn't been for you're
arrogant above the law mentality.  I would not be at crib with my boys.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2018

Wish they would have a super pool.  Call me a pilot and a recrew. 
Everyone on it would eventually have fmla.

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 February 2018

They already started the super pool in Louisville with the demise of the
Texas back several months ago, they were starting there and going to
make a super pool back then but the brakes got put on it shortly after.
I know it's coming I just wonder why they got rid of the Texas and
stopped for a while? I heard the Texas was the first board to go
because they wanted to sell it quickly but for whatever reason they
haven't yet. From what I'm hearing the Louisville super pool will be
in full swing mid summer 2018.

Name: Robert Pines
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 February 2018

...It said track was lined and locked into the siding. It should of been
restored to mainline ,wonder why it was left like that?...Is there a
track whisperer to tell main track? Looks like a glob of tracks to me.

Name: 
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Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for N/A
Posted: 04 February 2018

Super pool is going to Louisville next, it will be for engineers and
conductors and will cover LC, LH, and MS. The b3 boards will go away
and will be covered by the super pool also. This pool will be about 20%
less in man power than the individual boards themselves. Basically if
all boards have a total of 100 men then the super pool will be about
80. It looks like a guy will need 10+ years just to hold a yard extra
board spot. Along with this there will be around 12% more engineers cut
back. This is just a heads up so no one is surprised. Expect the process
to start around mid April.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 04 February 2018

I Would already say what the outcome will be on the Amtrak accident the
csx crew will be held accountable no matter how much pressure they
where put under or if they where given enough time to complete the task
the dispatcher who is overwhelmed might be charged but csx under the
current leadership will get off scot free and the fra and stsb will
turn a blind I along with the elected officials who are in there back
pocket so three people who have be bullied and pushed around for the
past ten months are the ones who will take the blame but the ones who
helped bring another accident about will only be worried about how it
affects there stock value and wont lose a seconds sleep for the lives
lost and the injured just another day of precision railroading.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 February 2018

It said track was lined and locked into the siding. It should of been
restored to mainline ,wonder why it was left like that?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 February 2018

Google map 33.9049711,-81.0668294 ---So there is a whole rail yard--
Hansen and Adkins car carriers-- to park a train right by the Amtrak
crash site. So let's set the empty train out by a main line to kill
some people. Just more proof railroad safety is ran by little baboons
deep in the railroads pocket that need to sent to Jens Bang tinker toy
train farm and listen to his crap for 50 years.

Name: 
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Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 February 2018

Well at all the railway companies that ceo Hh ran we all new he was a
SADIST..And now that he is gone,management should hit the reset button
and be more employee friendly. Things sure did run a lot smoother.
Employees would get that company pride back. I have worked with both
styles of management.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 February 2018

No napping might have had a hand in this.  If fatigue was an issue.  
Could have been someone Ill and not thinking clearly.   Instead of
laying off was fearful of losing their job.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 February 2018

Well itís got to be time that the goverment and public ,demand safety
over share value of a company. Enough is enough of the management mind
set that all that matters is money. If these company brass canít run a
safe railway. It is time to replace them.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 February 2018

Car repair

There is no telling what happened.  But precision railroad scheduling
has created more unpredictable work schedules leading to fatigue and
more people on territories that they are not familiar with.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 February 2018

My gramma was a conductor that got crushed,a crew ran a red board. This
Amtrak accidents hit home. Is there something wrong with the culture
with Amtrak crews. An average of two derailments a month.If there is
something wrong I hope the crew members step up and discuss there
issue. Fatigue,etc

Name: UTU/BLET
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Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 February 2018

NEWS FLASH....NEWS FLASH...Avon crews  
Step right up and get em while you can! Get your super pools here. 
Grab them while you can. Going cheap for CSX! Gonna cost double for the
crews. no more hi dollar pools for old men with seniority! Take your
crumbs while you can! Hope you been saving your nickles and dimes old
heads.  It's gonna hit your wallets hard.

Name: Hat
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 February 2018

Conductor

Save your judgemental bullshit.   You probably stay displaced don't
take notification or guilty of stealing time.   You don't know who
needs Fmla.  Go fuck yourself.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 February 2018

You are a worthless turd if you use FMLA for anything other than what
you have FMLA for. If you use FMLA whenever you don't want to work
then you should be fired. FMLA is not for that. Most of us can't just
decide we don't want to go to work and not get points for it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 February 2018

Would the conductor on Amtrak been able to see the target on the switch
,and dynamite th brakes ??????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 February 2018

FORGOT TO THROW THE HAND SWITCH!!!Are you serious! I thought things were
bad over there, but really! Doesn't the dispatcher get involved on
confirming with the crew that all switches and derails are lined
normal.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 February 2018

ME

Tell the truth.  That assessment is dead on accurate.

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 February 2018

Info on Cayce crash........signal suspension in effect at the time. .
CSX crew gave up the track but forgot to restore the hand throw switch.

Name: Hunters ghost 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 February 2018

http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/04/us/amtrak-south-carolina-crash/index.html

Heres the artical the csx train was believed to be empty, sitting idle.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 February 2018

New 2018 CSX revised physician certification
Blackout dates: New Year's Eve ,New Years Day,MLK day, Super Bowl,
Mardi Gra, Valentine's,Mother's Day, Father's Day, Good
Friday,Easter, Memorial Day, 4th of July,Labor Day, Halloween,EHHarison
day, all Saints Day,Thanks Giving,Hanukkah, Christmas Eve,Christmas Day,
Friday, Saturaday,Sunday,Monday .

Name: CYA
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Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 February 2018

Scheduled PTC Outage. Signal suspension. You know what happened. Put the
pieces together.

Name: FMLA
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Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 February 2018

Lets see how many worthless turds use FMLA today for the Super Bowl and
then cry victim when they get caught.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 February 2018

Louisville
Hall and Staley today both on the yard xtra board and both took jobs
not in the yard. Thanks company suck asses, CSX appreciates you but you
are screwing over your union brothers.

Name: Stopstopstop
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 February 2018

CSX better hope to hell this isn't the same siding that was in a Trains
column by Don Phillips a few years ago.  Amtrak had a good signal into
an occupied siding, I believe.

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 February 2018

I now understand the two dead are from Amtrak, my condolences. From the
new pictures Amtrak traveling south was diverted onto the siding going
head on with the CSX auto train. Don't know if the CSX train was
occupied or stopped or tied down. Tragic loss.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 February 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFe7s0WQ_tY Amtrak CSX accident

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 February 2018

Hey guys, I've seen some pictures of the accident between a Northbound
CSX auto train and a southbound Amtrak train at an overpass on
Charleston Highway near Dixiana Rd in South Carolina. Doesn't look
good for the CSX crew, don't think they would of made it from the
damage to the lead unit. From the pics looks like three tracks, did the
Amtrak train derail or was it a head on, hard to tell. It really brings
it home. My condolences to those that were lost.

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 February 2018

Louisville
Starks assigned to the yard xtra board and taking road jobs. Thanks
Starks

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 February 2018

Webconnect.csx.com

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 February 2018

Hey guys. Can anyone tell me what the site is to access the mainframe? I
had a shortcut on my old phone, but had to replace it and can't
remember it now.

Name: Brownhornet
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 February 2018

Sick
Agree 100% and how about the secrecy on the hourly rate..  Why weren't
we told what HH offered.   We should have had a say I that too.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 February 2018

Let's set a date to walk off the job.  At least it would bring great
attention on the national news.  Csx would hate that but at least the
might think twice before pulling another stunt.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 February 2018

This latest stunt of harassment and intimidation with fmla mark-offs
make me want to walk of the job.  Who's with me?

Name: Willy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 February 2018

12 laid off fm at my terminal.   Looks like scare tactics doesn't force
people to work who have issues.

Name: Brown Hornet
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 February 2018

Cond
Lol thanks 

Easy Money

Great I want all of you to sue the hell out of them.  Good to read you
guys are talking to the Dol too.   I'm not on Fmla but who knows who
will need it down the road.  Even if I don't this goes deeper.   If
those basterds get away with breaking federal law it will be fuel on
the fire for something entirely different tomorrow.    This affects
everyone on the rail with or without Fmla leave.  I don't know if the
union is doing anything but if they're not fuck them too. 

The Best to all of you.  Give them hell don't let them get away with
anything. NO FAVORS

Name: Cond
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 February 2018

MY FUCKING HERO 
OH MY GOD MAN! the only thing you forgot was the company trying to
blame everything that goes wrong by their stupid mismanagement on the
crews. Wasn't a damn thing you posted that isn't true. The public has
no stinking idea about the crap that goes on. Those stupid foamers who
stand by the tracks taking their stupid pictures just kill me. If they
only knew how stinking wrong their wet fantasy dreams are. Maybe we
should all stop and let them smell the nasty crapper and take a look at
everything that's broke. Time to straighten these idiots out and get
them over their little boy wants to run a choo choo and be famous
fantasy. You got my vote if you run against the international rep of
the UTU OR BLET! Out with old has beens and in with the new!

Name: BrownHornet
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 February 2018

1 board
outrageous union dues
sky rocketing insurance premiums with less coverage
seniority applies to Vacation bids for first round only
good claims not paid
over 100 men wrongfully pulled OOS
limits expanded
unreasonable attendance policy
keeps adding more responsibilities and work on the men
having to wait on ride to the hotel
having to wait to be picked up from the hotel
2 hrs pay for running their simulator
waste of time sitting in their rules class that covers nothing
be treated like a criminal in their "fair and impartial hearing" aka
kangaroo court, show trial, tribunal.
loss of 20 year boot program
unpredictable work schedule with no napping
no phone or any reading material unless phone helps the carrier
on call for free
no weather lay off
no drinking in hotel on your on time
having to run down mailman for not needed certified letters
never knowing who your supervisor is day to day 
dealing with crew callers who don't know the agreement
begging for a PB day
ridiculous vacation pl caps
Friday, Saturday, Sunday is just another day unless you mark off
No overtime after 40,50,60,70 or 100hrs in week is insanity
never knowing when you will be back home
Turnover rate is off the charts and these sons of bitches want to fuck
with us. 
Those of you who were wrongfully pulled OOS.  I can not believe there
has not been complaints filled with Dept. of Labor, you haven't raised
hell with your union. And your not in talks with an attorney.

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 February 2018

10 years yeah you're a real od head Jr.

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 February 2018

Louisville, thanks union brothers Woods, Roten, and Staley for again
taking a job that you didn't have to. 
STOP TAKING JOBS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO. THEY WILL NEVER MARK UP THE
CUT BACK ENGINEERS, OR ADD TURNS IF YOU KEEP HELPING THE COMPANY!

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 February 2018

We all fought hard to keep the caboose. Then when you seen what the
maintance costs where to keep one caboose going for a year,it was a
smart move by the company to scrap them. A lot easier to put sbu on
tailend than a caboose. Then they got rid of the plain bearings etc.
Down the road you might see one guy in the cab and he will set bad
orders off or switch with a satellite..They have the technology they
just have to sell it to the public and goverment to show it is safe.
Itís coming!!!

Name: RRJim
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 February 2018

LE 10-20

It's difficult to go through all the changes. When the CSX merger went
through between the SCL & Chessie System (former C&O, B&O, WM etc..) and
kicked into gear we watched a lot of former C&O yards shutdown or
reduced to crew change run through yards. Majority of our trainmasters
were transferred or forced to retire. They leased off several former
C&O branchlines & mainlines to a shortline railroad. In just a short
couple of years we lost road switchers, locals, transfer jobs, and yard
jobs. Then they moved most of our work to another terminal. We still
owned the jobs but if you wanted to work them one had to move 4 hours
away. CSX decided to not offer union employees any moving packages for
the hardship. This was all done in the 1980's & 1990's. Technology
wiped out a lot jobs. Clerks were replaced by computers, crew callers &
train dispatchers were moved to JAX etc... I read people on here blame
us for the loss of the caboose. I still don't understand that logic.
No one could stop it not the union certainly not any of us. It's
technology. Seems every time there's a change higher up bad things
happen. I owned a lot of CSX stock last year. I started selling after
Hunter Harrison & Mantle Ridge. Price went up an in my mind it
artificially inflated. I finally sold the last of my shares when HH
passed away. This idea of selling off parts of CSX was to troubling.
None of them take in the human factor. Good Luck to everyone.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 February 2018

I have been with CSX for most of my adult life. Iíve chased this job
from place to place knowing that when I gained the seniority that I
would eventually be able to hold a job close to home. I came to a point
in my life where Iím sure most have been where I decided it was time to
look for a career not a job. I paid the money for school took the
chance and joined the CSX railroad. My thinking was the railroad has
been around forever good pay good retirement but bad schedule and after
hiring in questionable at best work conditions referring to the way
people are treated. Since joining the railroad I started my adult life
so to speak got married had kids etc. The railroad has been good to my
family and I financially and been here long enough now I couldnít
imagine myself doing anything different. Then what seems like overnight
huge changes to the point where I may not have a job tomorrow. Donít get
me wrong Iím like everyone else I complained about claims and pay  as
well as unfair treatment. I swear mid level to upper management have no
regard for their employees for the most part or thatís how it seems. But
with all that being said I need my job. I have always done what I was
paid to do. I work the XB and the pools Iím not a kiss ass my outlook
has always been out of sight out of mind. I put my claims I when the
agreement is violated just to have them denied like everyone else. I
guess what Iím saying is in a way Iím scared of losing my job so a
elite few can reap the benefits of an inflated stock price. I donít
think there will be much left of CSX when they are done. Best of luck
to all.

Name: Mayihaveanother
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 February 2018

Any word from  kanga Kourt.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 02 February 2018

Louisville
Thanks Kircher, you're on the yard extra board but took a job not in
the yard, thanks brother!

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 February 2018

I heard she shops at dyke mart !!!

Name: LilChris
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 February 2018

RRJim

I appreciate your post keep them coming.  We all complain about our job
but it gets in your blood.  After X amount years it's part of who a
person is.  Some wont admit to it but the fact remains.  If you like to
stay in the loop and posting on here fills some small void.  Then great
we can all learn from your experience. Don't mind some kid  who gets
his kicks bashing others.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 February 2018

Class action boys an girls more voices together are better than one....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 February 2018

Moody law firm.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 February 2018

Name: Smarter than u
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 February 2018

Pines 

Someone should have told her to get the number off the side of the
crossing box!!!!!

Yeah ---stop right in the middle of traffic and jot it down. Oh, and
that number goes to a FRICKING menu LIKE TIME MEANS NOTHING.

Besides the crossing itself was calling ""COME FIX ME STUPID
RAILROAD__I HAVE SHORT SOMEWHERE"""

Jens Bang is going to be mouth wired shut freak if he isn't already.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 February 2018

MS. Sanborn is a daughter of a former csx board director.
Pro-business, pro-company. Not an ally to RR labor.  Has upper level
management experience. Knows/understands RR operations pretty well -
lots better than many give her credit for.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 February 2018

Hello all, what can you tell me about Cindy Sanborn as she is our new
regional vice president on the western region here at UP. I see she is
not married or have any kids. Humm!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 February 2018

Most, probably all, public, maybe even farm crossings, over RR tracks in
this country have a USDOT number.   

Could be on an older hard to see metal sign\tag nailed to an older
wooden x-buck post -- or now days, a much more modern sign attached to
one or more, of the posts that flashers & gates are mounted to and
these signs have the crossing no., the RR milepost location, & an
emergency phone no. to call.   


Every FNG encountered was not informed of this by Einstein know-it-all
instructors at training.    Safety First.

Name: Duck
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 February 2018

Any news from kangaroo court today?   Did your union rep urge you to
sign a waiver?   Please share any information.

Name: 
E-mail: T
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 February 2018

Csx stock has been, as predicted, stagnant for almost a year. The
initial gains after the announcement of Harrison going to become CEO is
all you get, nothing in precision scheduled railroading has worked to
boost stock. July 1st 2017 stock was around 54.50, today it's around
56.50. In 9 months there is a net gain of about 2 bucks per share. If
you had 100k bucks or 1834 shares on July 1st 2017 then you made a gain
of $3600 in the last 9 months. This is considered underperforming
compared to the majority of other stocks during this same period. Csx
stock did it's thing based on the notion of ehh, but nothing based on
performance. It's over.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 February 2018

Or maybe the dumb bitch shouldíve, maybe, idk, googled it???, Amtrak on
CSX tracks makes it CSX fault??? Foamer news again, you fat fucking
slob of a man. I think everyone should refer to you as Robert the Hutt
from now on, peanut butter smelling bitch

Name: Smarter than u
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 February 2018

Pines 

Someone should have told her to get the number off the side of the
crossing box!!!!!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 February 2018

http://tucson.com/news/national/drivers-say-safety-arms-at-crash-site-seemed-to-malfunction/article_12ff671f-fa64-5217-8cf3-7cca7fcc89ea.html

Drivers say safety arms at crash site seemed to malfunction
..."It was a weird up-and-down thing," she said. "Then the next day,
the accident happened at that intersection."...
...She said she would have called about the malfunctioning arm on
Tuesday, "but who do you call? No one knows."...

Let's see. Amtrak full of politicians takes out half of Congress on
CSX tracks and Congress was going to ex-CSX Greenbriar and the posts
here by foamer goofballs are on FMLA--- FOAMER MONKEYS LOSER ASSHOLES

Name: Fuckbrianmurry
E-mail: Gofuckyourserlfmurry.com
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 February 2018

Chief ass clown on the great lakes and Albany division Brian murry is
calling all the trainmaster  Incompetent because the employyes dont
fear them at there jobs. Told a trainmaster who had a injury in his
terminal that the employees don't fear him, that's why they are
reporting injuries. If they fear him they wont report injuries. Someone
needs to record this assholes saying these things to have proof of his
bullying tactics.  I know next time i run across him My phone will be
recording !!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 February 2018

Ape

I don't know of anyone yet but they will terminate almost everyone.
This was not an investigation. I was not allowed to show any proof of
my absence. They constantly stated how I was guilty of dishonesty and
that I misused the leave. It was truly a "Show Trial" they are just
going through the motions to convince themselves and try to wear you
down.  Said there would be a decisions in thirty days.  The decision
has already been made.  It's all show.  This will have to be fought in
court.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 February 2018

Well has anyone had there ruling from there previous investigation for
fmla misuse anyone terminated yet.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 February 2018

they're still pulling men out.  I hope they get their asses sued.

Some received warning letters in the mail some did not.
Some had recerts requested some did not.
All had their Certs approved.
Red over my physicians cert that they provided.  I haven't came across
the part about blackout dates.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 February 2018

Thanks Easy Money for the post all need to read.
all should read post by Easy Money

Name: Easy money
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

No, I didn't even want to glare at a waiver. After 5 hours of
repetition, of listening to some woman on conference call read out the
system notices and saying how you are a violator and that you caused
all of the things to happen pertaining to the sanborn letter. Ughh,
I'm already tired again of thinking of today... it's basically their
little court, you're lc will present good evidence and the company
puppet will over rule, it's really a comedy. its just a big waste of
time, set through it and keep your cool, they want you to come
unhinged. All and all they're blindly reaching for shit, hoping
you'll slip up and incriminate yourself. That's all for now, sorry
if
that didn't help, I'm taking a mental vacation for a while. ..

Name: Blinddog
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 February 2018

Boys you getting hoodwinked.  Better be calling somebody.  Boss can't
fire you boys for taking leave.  I done called told whats going down. 
Taken off over the holiday done fired me.  Will I wait. No  I am making
all the calls.  You should to. Bring attention to the situation.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 February 2018

Cond 10-20

It would seem if you have over 10 years you would know road jobs are
considered or were considered 7 day assignments. That's why the road
doesn't get holiday pay. I said "were" considered 7 day seeing now a
days there is the FRA mandate of time off after working 6-7 consecutive
days. But CSX and all the railroads have found a loophole to bypass it.
You want the holiday pay then take a yard job right before it. Only
thing you have to be is marked up and work the job the day before the
holiday and the day after.

Name: Reality
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 February 2018

All crews 

Get over it. You have no choice.  Your working conditions and work
rules are going to change whether you like it is not. Your all to big a
pansies to do anything about it. Your professional bitchers and that's
all. Your LCs can't do a thing about it and they know it. The GCs are
in the carriers back pockets. When was the last time your union leaders
at the international asked any of you what you thought about any of
these changes. The only time you here from them is when its time to
negotiate a new agreement. How many side letters have been made without
one question presented to the members? ALL OF THEM! The union's own you
and don't give a shit what you think and they don't care because they
know you won't do a damn thing about it. So just pay out the ass on
those over inflated union dues and live with it. You got federal rights
that protect you from union abuse. There's groups out there that can
help you with protecting your rights as members. Do some homework. Make
an appointment with a labor law lawyer. Do something other than
bitching. If not then suck it up.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 31 January 2018

Courts have ruled that managers and supervisors can be held personally
liable for FLSA violations. And now, in a new twist, courts are saying
they can be individually liable for FMLA violations as well. ... And
employers can be held liable for FMLA violations ó even if those
ďemployersĒ are individuals within a company.Mar 22, 2017

Have them included as defendants.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

I remember the company telling me that I got 11 paid holidays in my
interview. Guess what?  Only if you are in the yard where there are few
jobs.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 January 2018

DO NOT SIGN A WAIVER  DO NOT SIGN A WAIVER DO NOT SIGN A WAIVER

IT SCREWS YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE

CONTACT THE DESIGNATED ATTORNEY

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

Hey bobby, guess which complete moron was at fault? A garbage truck
driver should know more than anyone because he is supposed to be a
professional driver. If there are tracks, even with lights and gates,
even without them, stop and look, and if there's an obstruction, then
fucking listen!! Stay the fuck away from our tracks if you're too
stupid to follow those very simple instructions. Fucking idiot!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 January 2018

Robert Pines, apparently you don't read your own linked posts??? You
just see something about a crossing accident and get post happy!!! I
guess you think it was the trains crew at fault, since the crossing was
fully equipped with warning devices. You do realize that locomotives
don't have steering wheels??? Or stop on a dime like a Honda Civic???
How are you even related to anything concerning the railroad? I think
you're just some fat slob in a dirty wife beater that has peanut
butter stains on it, because that's where you wipe your hands, maybe
some caked in your patchy week old beard

Name: Ex disp.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 31 January 2018

Ricardo  

How about a name on that. There were notes out on the st.Louis line
dispatchers bulletins about Cone yard moves. Your LC should have been
checking on that.  In fact I believe one blet LC named Bob was supposed
to be getting the scoop on it. What did they find out for you??? How
come a TM is telling you this crap. Who was the TM?

Name: Laughing 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

Screw you numb nuts. This Railroad isn't the same as when I hired on.
It was one of the best places to work. Over time and mismanagement
caused this company down fall. You are a puppy and your mom should have
swallowed you..!!!!!






Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 31 January 2018

Remember when you hired on, and you all at the interview said you
would
do anything for the company if you were hired. Remember the ass
kissing?What happened to that attitude LOL?

  View This Article

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

I don't recall that.  I remember being lied to.  They were hard up to
find anyone to come out here.  Now there are more men than what's
needed.  So they thinks they can kick the shit out of you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 31 January 2018

Remember when you hired on, and you all at the interview said you would
do anything for the company if you were hired. Remember the ass
kissing?What happened to that attitude LOL?

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

Pinenutz


How's that The RRs fault?  Place blame where it belongs. Not where you
want it.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 January 2018

Name: Mayihaveanother AKA JBL AKA JENS BANG---AKA L@N goofball ---your
the one acting like a retard wasting time.

http://www.whsv.com/content/news/Train-carrying-GOP-House-members-crashes-outside-Crozet-471966903.html

Betcha this gets some safety attention. Truck takes out big boys going
to ex-CSX Greenbriar.

Name: Ricardo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

Roselake guys, TM here said exoect to take trains across the bridge into
Missouri like they did in the Conrail days. And do it for free

Name: Tourettes
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

I got the Tourettes

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

bob pinenutz
 you must be one board dude.  shoote me some ideals how waste time my
bruther. howd you past tha time aother then posten bs on hear.

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

inybodie got terminaeted yet.. I"am bout too lose my mind.  tha first
tyme I be gettin board. I gots money just don't no what else to do. 
any ideals from my dogs.  got my lottery money my employement money
treyed to draw redbored but they not haven it said it don't cover that
sort of thang.  mite take a trip go to Dizney Land or somethan   shoot
me some ideals

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 January 2018

http://www.whsv.com/content/news/Train-carrying-GOP-House-members-crashes-outside-Crozet-471966903.html

Betcha this gets some safety attention. Truck takes out big boys going
to ex-CSX Greenbriar.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

Sims I don't have FMLA and I think your comments about FMLA are
bullshit if you don't like it go get another job I am standing beside
my fellow railroaders because our union won't .......

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

Day????????.???


Gonna chill at the crib.   Be counting my greenbacks.  Won 9 grand last
night on Luky 9s scratch off.   Be party  tonite.    Life be good at my
Casa.   Gonna gal to Applle bees for Lunsh .  Meating a lady I meet
online.  I thank she's a reel blonde.  Fingers crossed.  Update laters
dogs.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 January 2018

Anyone receive there final decision after there investigation for fmla
misuse what's the outcome been 30 days should be up on some.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 January 2018

Always remember the Union Rep lawyers are probably railroad bought
devils in disguise. Sure they might get a one cent on a dollar
settlement a go for the juggler lawyer would get.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 January 2018

Hmmm---Guess the old SMART officer who thought a rat trap sized sign two
miles before dead mans curve got promoted.

RAIL SAFETY AND COMPLIANCE OFFICER
SMART, a new commuter rail service in the Northern San Francisco Bay
Area is seeking an experienced rail safety professional with extensive
knowledge of Federal Railroad Administration regulations and reporting.
Position is responsible for the planning, management and implementation
of overall safety plans, programs and practices and for the successful
delivery of all SMART and FRA training requirements/programs and
certification programs. Salary: $112,382 - $136,614 EOE

Contact: https://www.calopps.org/smart

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 January 2018

word!   work don't work I make the same and work the same no matter who
is or isn't marked off.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 January 2018

I don't give a shit why or when anyone marks off.  Keep a few low men
working.

Name: U2
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 January 2018

Barlow
this is you
I think it's funny the same ones bitching about protected Fmla
layoffs.
 Are the same ones who layoff Union, company business,  step up take a
call, step up take a call as an engineer,  stay displaced, don't take
notification,  wait around to tie up, to steal over time, to catch
their
off days or to miss a bad job.  Drag ass running or drag ass to let
the
next Crew do the work.  Who deadheads make multiple stops for smokes
or
any other BS.



We all have set standards for others that we alone don't measure up
to.   The hypocrites run deep on the rail.

Name: Slice
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 January 2018

Simms

You're a company Cunt.

Name: 11thMEU
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 January 2018

Barlow 

I for one have PTSD.  I'm sure that I'm not alone.  So shut the fuck
up bitch.

Name: Barlow Sims
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 January 2018

Nobody really cares about the 100 FMLA guys because we all really know
its a bunch if crap. Instead of either working like men, or using your
caps points you guys want to act like cripples that have had some right
taken from you. The rest of us have to work to support our families, not
risk our jobs because a bunch of morons abused fmla for xmas. Grow up

Name: ul
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 January 2018

Four kids off displacement.  Three of them not taking notification.  
Always playing their games screwing the rest of us. That's better than
the 9 who were displace all weekend alongside our lc.

Name: Gibby
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 January 2018

When EHH blamed T&E pushback for failed PSRR.  The UTU Smart denounced
his accusations.

When CSX pulled over 100 men OOS for alleged Fmla abuse.   The UTU
Smart posted on their website  designated counsel who are instructing
members how to proceed. 


Thank You SMART.

Where is the Blet?

Name: Ladder
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 January 2018

https://smart-union.org/news/consultation-being-offered-for-those-targeted-by-csx-fmla-investigations/


Here you go give them a call.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 January 2018

I just show ape,to get on the site. I do not work at CSX. I work at
another railway. FYI

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 January 2018

To tell this is a Jens Bang aka L@N dispatcher and 90% of the other
posts FOAMER site

Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year sez

...Iím a unionized employee at the railroad...

 Then Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year sez

...The ceo you have is the same guy...

It would be WE have not YOU have idiot.

Now how about the rat sized speed limit sign in Washington St. two
miles too soon and no real speed limit signs along any tracks. No fog
lights---Theft/overcharges on crossing equipment? CSX 99 kills in 10
months? SAFETY THINGS FOR A SAFETY THREAD

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 January 2018

Just remember also guys,#MEETOO is another weapon to get you!

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 January 2018

Day F if I know

Tribunal is set for this weak.  anyothers have one this weak.  I be
haven a bowl party.  My Eagles goint to the Ship baby.  don't want to
go back before Christmas. gots all kinds of stuff too do.

Name: Louisville
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 January 2018

A cutback engineer on the conductor yard xtra board has taken a job as
an engineer, thanks WEBB. Keep it up and they won't have to mark up
any cutbacks for a while. 
Louisville doesn't need the company to destroy our jobs, we have
enough morons doing it voluntarily.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 January 2018

Can't believe someone hasn't went postal at CSX.  It's gotta be
coming and hopefully it's on upper management.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 January 2018

Iím a unionized employee at the railroad. This is one argument I hope
Iím 100 percent wrong. The ceo you have is the same guy that will try
anything he can to get his way. I seen it with disbelieve , and it
shock all us railroaders. Donít think for a minute these people wonít
go to the government to try and change the rules. They are ruthless
bunch and will stop at nothing to get there own way. Never say never.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 January 2018

They will only call people back when every one are all working. Trying
to force the companies hand by not taking work when your able to is
your decision. But donít complain when non union people are eating your
lunch.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 January 2018

So I just read something that I firmly disagree with.  Telling the guys
to take calls while people are furloughed is WRONG.  If your mind set
is, take the call or they'll find someone who will, where do you stand
with your union members out of a job?  That kind of shit feeds right
into managements hands.  Taking calls and doing favors is not okay.  We
all know the games they play.  It's up to you to stop being so damn
stupid and answering every call.  And if you want to be a greedy prick
while people are out of work thats your problem except it might also
back fire in your face one day.  We all know who does it all the time. 
Bout time for some to learn the hard way!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2018

Don't be surprised if the ones who have signed waivers either get fired
once returning to work or next time for marking off.with no leg too
stand on cuase they admitted to misuse of fmla .good luck

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 January 2018

U idoits keep signing waivers that's what the company wants .for the
weak...don't give in we stick together

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 January 2018

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cp-rail-engineers-training-1.4046049
Forced to take training.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 January 2018

You should thank the guy that steps up and goes to work. Not bash him,im
telling you as a guy that witnessed what will happen if guys donít go to
work for these moves. Foote will train all the I.T. People and managers
that o run the trains. They did it in Canada and other places. Foote
and Creal are all for it. Creal will not take this practice off the
table in negotiations,these ceo s dig in and hold there ground. You
have to take the calls to protect these jobs. Donít give them an excuse
to use other people. !!!

Name: Come on man!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 January 2018

And again in Louisville we got another sukka today (Gibbs) assigned to
the yard xtra board and took a job NOT in the yard. Keep it up idiots
and watch what happens! Company suck up.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2018

I for one after being off work for sleep apnea am glad to be back at
work, but at the same time I look forward to the day I can retire from
the R.R. after 26 years I just want to do something else. Number one
thing is retire with your health, get any medical procedures done
before you leave,  put your financial house in order, do the things you
have always wanted to do, keep busy, enjoy time with others. The time
will go by so fast, you'll wonder where the time went, make the most
of it, it only comes around once.

Name: Kitten
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 January 2018

The firing question
Yes, companies can fire an employee whoís on intermittent FMLA leave.
Despite the fears of many employers, FMLA doesnít confer some kind of
special dispensation for workers who exercise their leave rights.
OBVIOUSLY, workers CAN'T be FIRED FOR TAKING LEAVE. 

When an employee on FMLA leave is terminated, the DOL decrees that the
burdenís on the employer to prove the worker would have been
disciplined or terminated regardless of the leave request or usage.

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/                                       
FILE A COMPLAINT MONDAY MORNING IF YOU BELIEVE YOUR RIGHTS HAVE BEEN
VIOLATED! 

DON'T SIGN A WAIVER
WASTE NO MORE TIME
MOST ATTORNIES WORK ON CONTINGENCY 
THIRD PARTIES CAN FILE A COMPLAINT

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 January 2018

Lester

It's the individuals responsibility to contract their union LC to
notify them of a charge letter & being taken OOS. Someone doesn't have
to have the union represent them it's their choice. It wouldn't be a
wise choice. Spout your anti-union BS someplace else. There are time
limits that CSX or any railroad has to adhere to when they do charge
someone. If they exceed those limits of a hearing the charges are
dropped and usually the person gets all back pay. It sounds like CSX is
playing this game. The attitude of "if you want time off we'll give it
to you". Then most likely they'll try and deny the pay for time loss.
It's a game, it's always been a game. Nothing new it's been going on
forever.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 January 2018

The union said it would never happen in USA. That CSX will train
managers to run the trains.  Time will tell if Foote will go that way.
They layoff so many people that when it gets busy they use managers to
run trains. Seen it happen with cn cp. They are still doing it till
this day.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 January 2018

If it were mandatory for you to answer the phone and take a job that's
not covered by your board the we would all have to constantly monitor
every board (road and yard). I could be first out on the yard board
with nothing being called for the yard for the next 8 hours and decide
to go get my oil changed and as soon as my truck gets on the rack I get
called for a road job and I have to take it, yeah right that's not how
the extra boards work. 
The company should properly staff the boards with ample numbers or
suffer the consequences of missed or late trains. It is not our
responsibility to ensure that there are enough employees to keep the
trains running period. 
CSX will trim and trim as long as we allow it. Make a stand and 
DO NOT "help" the company, you are just a number that is it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 January 2018

For the record, you DO NOT have to answer your phone and take a job
outside of the board that you are assigned to. You absolutely DO NOT
have to take that call. I have let the phone ring and miss the call and
they eventually will put you down for a missed call but it doesn't
stick EVER. The MC will come back off on it's own without you having
to do anything. I have been through this a lot. If the MC were to stay
on there then you have the Local Chairman get it removed because it is
a contract violation. You bid on the board you want and when you are
assigned to that board that is all you have to worry about, it is our
agreement. Yes crew management does use scare tactics to try to get
people to work jobs that they don't have to but it is only a lame
attempt at getting you to take the call.

Name: Lester
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 January 2018

All OOS you best  be talking to an attorney.     Notice how your unions
haven't been in contact with you.  Do you believe they're working on
this?   Do not sign a waiver and do not settle for back pay.  Keep all
paper worked mailed to you.  Keep dates, times and names of any contact
with managers. Make a note of all derogatory comments by employees. 
Have you been treated differently or held to a higher standard?   Have
you showed proof to discredit their "honest belief" and they still
refuse to reienstate you?   Do not show weakness at their
investigation.  Stand your ground.  Don't be bullied into a waiver or
signing a resignation.  There is nothing they would like more.  By
signing such it releases them and you would be entitled to nothing.  If
your union rep recommends signing.  She  is not supporting you.

Good Luck

Name: Engineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 January 2018

Why,

Apparently there's many that don't understand that crew management
doesn't always ask you to step up but forces you to. Same thing as
being called to protect trains that should be called off different crew
base. They don't ask, they tell. And there's nothing you can do about,
take a missed call, you think this union can or will have your back,
think again...

Name: Tm
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 January 2018

Get ready!!!
 
Avon crews get ready! Pool trains are getting changed asap! Block
swapping is in the works and train profiles are changed. Intermodal
trains will be doing more work and combined.  Two are already in the
works to be abolished. Union agreement has been changed as well.
Welcome to the world of being used as J jobs with miles consumed if
your called out of your home terminal off pool to work as dog catcher
of to work an industry. NO MORE GOING TO HOTEL TO PROTECT YOUR TURNS.
NO MORE GUARENTEED ROUND TRIPS OFF YOUR POOL! Ask your LC what happened
to your rule 74. Carrier has you by the balls.  Welcome to hell boys!

Name: Why
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 January 2018

Triplett, why are you taking jobs to help the company? You're hurting
yourself and your union brothers? You're on the yard extra board but
you took an engineer job not in the yard!

Name: U2
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 January 2018

I think it's funny the same ones bitching about protected Fmla layoffs.
 Are the same ones who layoff Union, company business,  step up take a
call, step up take a call as an engineer,  stay displaced, don't take
notification,  wait around to tie up,steal over time, to catch their
off days or to miss a bad job.  Drag ass running or drag ass to let the
next Crew do the work.  Who deadheads make multiple stops for smokes or
any other BS.



We all have set standards for others that we alone don't measure up
to.   The hypocrites run deep on the rail.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 January 2018

Somebody give Robert Pines attention, he's throwing a temper tantrum,
his cock shaped pacifier fell out. This is a safety thread!!!! I want
my mommy!!! Waaaaaa waaaaa waaaa. FYI, foamers talk about sd40's and
shit, you're probably a foamer your damn self, quit being a bitch...
and I agree with rrjim, at least you're getting a damn backpay,
geez...

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 January 2018

LOL! I seen it all now. People complaining over a backtime check.
Something railroaders haven't received in decades with contracts. It
wasn't going to be a big check maybe $2000 +/- depends on a persons
earnings for that timeframe. It's better than nothing. Which is what
happened for decades nothing. Only way to get a contract back then was
to give up something and backtime was one. That was alright after 2-4
years without a contract it was great to finally have a pay raise. I
don't blame the union I blame politics. Whoever controls the politics
in this country controls the boards that govern like the FRA, NMB, STB,
NTSB etc...

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 January 2018

CSX_SUCKS is a run away train with goof ball foamers babbling about shit
that don't amount to a hill of shit on a safety thread and no
oversight.

Name: Rain man
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 January 2018

Heads up Louisville, rumor is the hit squad is back and looking for
more
P.S. Steve is a chump that can't run a terminal

Name: Who farted?
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 January 2018

So the back pay? 
Normally I have 5% of my check put into my 401k, so all this time that
5% going in would have been more each check going into my 401k. The
markets have performed exceptionally well over the last year or so and
I would have made money on my 401k contribution that was not
contributed because we went without a renewed contract. My back pay
(chump change) should have been to account for that as well. WTF? 
Also FYI google company bonuses from the Trump tax cuts. There is a
list of companies cutting thousand dollar plus checks to their
employees. Wal-Mart made the list, Starbucks made the list, hundreds
more made the list. I did not see CSX on the list, I guess these
greedy, greasy, turds don't think they can spare anything for the ones
that make railroading happen.

Name: Im a snake
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 January 2018

It's all dirty and this was planned. Cindy was placed there because she
knows csx. Now when csx is bought up, they already have someone that
knows csx. I could get into more detail but that's in a nutshell
what's going on. The 8000 miles of track csx is selling is of no
interest to up, once that's gone csx will be bought by up

Name: Pullmybleedrod 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 January 2018

Cindy Sanborn is now at Union Pacific.

That is all

Name: tea
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 January 2018

With all the corporate tax cuts.   I'm  sure are beloved RR will give
us a bonus.   I'm holding my breath and will keep checking my
paystubs.

Name: 70hrwk
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 January 2018

Friday and you guessed it. Both Local Chairmen laid off union business
today.   About a dozen displaced playing their games.  I'm tired of
the abuse.  The ones that work always have to pick the slack up. 
Constantly having undue hardship of working more than scheduled.  
Never knowing when everyone will disappear.

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 January 2018

Robert Pines You a Bitch.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 January 2018

Hey guys, I'm Robert Pines and I love to suck dirty cocks to
completion. With this being a safety board post, please remember to
wear knee pads

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 January 2018

Issues with your pay check is a safety issue and good for this site.The
dangers for some men if the check is not in the bank account. So the
wife can get groceries etc. A man walks in the door and gets the frying
pan across the side of the head. Du canít you figure that out!!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 January 2018

http://www.modbee.com/news/local/article196702599.html

This is a SAFETY board post. No wonder you railroad idiots have no
jobs. You can't read.Lay off ---pay check--and the bother suckapaw
bullshit doesn't go here.

Certfied special kind of stupid train driver gets the train bomb going
so fast that it doesn't stop in THREE miles.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 January 2018

You should check your agreement,if you take leave from CSX and itís
granted. You can not take leave to work somewhere else. And if you are
working at CSX.and have another job else where they frown on that
because they feel your not rested for your job at CSX. And if you have
job else where while working at CSX. And you say you where injured at
CSX. They will investigate big time to make sure you did not get
injured off the job.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 January 2018

Do you people REALLY know what giving CSX a waiver is? It takes all
responsibility away from CSX and you NEVER go after them again. This is
also called a RELEASE!
Law, am I right?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 January 2018

I had an investigation.   It was an absolute waste of time.  They have
nothing and they know it.    Waiver offered I couldn't keep from
laughing at them.   I wish these silly assholes would terminate me.  
Then I can get the ball rolling.     For now back to my shop to make
some extra cash.   You fucks can't wait me out.    I'm a tradesman
with a small buisness.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 January 2018

LE 20-30

The backtime check wasn't going to be huge. Can't remember off hand
what the increase was for 2016 & 2017 but a fair guess would be around
1 1/2% to 2% per year. Then it's only based on actual days worked
during each year nothing extra. Be grateful you got any backtime check.
I don't think there's been one in decades. Seeing it was a national
contract it took members from every railroad to vote on it not just
CSX.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 January 2018

Double J  u can kiss my big donkey.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 January 2018

Sure would be nice if Anyone that ends up in a Kangaroo Court and\or
any Court, regarding FMLA mark-offs, posts back here on this site -  to
inform all that may look at & read this stuff know how it all went.

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 January 2018

I tell my LC to offer them dingleberries  a Waiver! Lmfao good one

Name: OfferaWaiver
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 January 2018

When you go to Kangaroo court.  Offer CSX a waiver.  (If they pay double
of all loss wages and post a written apology).  You will in return not
see them and their HR reps, and managers in federal court.

Name: Top
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 January 2018

Rambo and Easy Moey


Much respect.  Hope you get all the law allows.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 January 2018

Csx plans to run 61 trains a day through Indianopolis.  That's
hilarious.  Csx is about to fall on It's face again.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 January 2018

Good job Rambo.

Name: Rambo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 January 2018

I made CSX hold both boards on me for using my approved Fmla I didnít
back down or let them postpone the board they tried in order to review
my doctor excuse I just removed my doctor excuse from evidence and made
them hold the board with approved Fmla we donít need a doctors excuse
donít let CSX push u around people and donít sign waivers and show
weakness I told them Iíd see them in Federal court

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 January 2018

Did everyone get their slap in the face back pay? Most idiots voted in
favor of this contract because that back pay was dangled in front of
them.

Name: Waters
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 January 2018

Easy money


You know of men signing a waiver to come back?   If yes,  what are
those guys thinking?     There really is a law firm getting a class
action under way?

Everyone down here keeps getting their show trial postponed.    
Carrier is just jerking the men around.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 January 2018

Last month Consumer's Report -JAN- talks about seriously bad flu
season, says should stay home, protect the public. You don't get FMLA
for flu, and it would help if saw DR. or emergi care, and/or got Tami
Flu prescription. Still, it can raise an issue, and carriers position
that you are NEVER off if needed is not correct. I'll bet CDC have
similar article (Federal Health Agency) .RR employees travel, and so
can spread flu from town to town. Flu adversely impacts other
conditions you already have, BTW.

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 January 2018

Day 27
Been out of town but I be bak at tha crib.   Took a trip to Little 
place called Vegas baby.    They take care of a man out their.   With
back pay thank will go on Sring brake.   
Bird Trex will go with.    Bonus monies going on a cruise.    Got it
all laid out.    May I have another?

Name: Backpay
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 January 2018

Back pay statement is on gateway now and is date as 012618, we will get
2 separate checks on fri.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 January 2018

http://www.tcrc76.com/News_Aug_24_2007_1.htm

Name: CSX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 January 2018

"Well folks this is my last post on here, I have officially quit CSX.
I
was furloughed October 2017 and found another job starting at
$15.63/hr. I have been at my new job for 3 months and I love it. I
have
a Monday-Friday 7:00am to 3:00pm schedule, every weekend off, double
time for holidays and time and a half if I want to work Saturday or
Sunday. I have a company match 401k, and my insurance is 100% paid by
the company. I work indoors and never get dirty or wore out. I always
thought the railroad was a great job, and it use to be, but my eyes
have opened up now. I initially was going to stay furloughed so I
could
one day come back if I wanted to but now I wouldn't even consider it.
I
turned in all of my CSX gear and officially quit so I could cash out
my
401k. I pocketed 76K after taxes and fees. I am using that money to
pay
off almost everything I own. I will be debt free and free from the
misery of CSX. There are better things out there people so don't
loose
hope. I didn't think $15.63 an hour was enough but my checks are not
a
lot less than at CSX. I make a little less but it is so worth it.
Goodbye CSX family, it's been good but I found better"

All I can say, IS awesome story!!!!! I hope more realize the dream. I
finally got my 115K check today! I'm done with that bitch! F**k CSX!!!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 January 2018

Well Dumbass you get a trip to Blanchard Idaho Jens Bang aka L@N
Dispatcher tinker toy train farm. Just think you and him can wear your
Dumbass and Dumberass t-shirts--hold hands-- and skip through his
mommas tulips.


Name: Dumbass
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 January 2018

Hey pines, were all 99 people too stupid to look before they crossed
the tracks? Nobody cares. Go away.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 January 2018

Well folks this is my last post on here, I have officially quit CSX. I
was furloughed October 2017 and found another job starting at
$15.63/hr. I have been at my new job for 3 months and I love it. I have
a Monday-Friday 7:00am to 3:00pm schedule, every weekend off, double
time for holidays and time and a half if I want to work Saturday or
Sunday. I have a company match 401k, and my insurance is 100% paid by
the company. I work indoors and never get dirty or wore out. I always
thought the railroad was a great job, and it use to be, but my eyes
have opened up now. I initially was going to stay furloughed so I could
one day come back if I wanted to but now I wouldn't even consider it. I
turned in all of my CSX gear and officially quit so I could cash out my
401k. I pocketed 76K after taxes and fees. I am using that money to pay
off almost everything I own. I will be debt free and free from the
misery of CSX. There are better things out there people so don't loose
hope. I didn't think $15.63 an hour was enough but my checks are not a
lot less than at CSX. I make a little less but it is so worth it.
Goodbye CSX family, it's been good but I found better.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 January 2018

Well boys and girls, this is the week we're supposed to get our back
pay. Shouldn't it have already been in our earnings statements? What
is the next move if we don't get it before the 31st? What is the
company's penalty if they don't pay us on time? Is there anything, or
can they just do what they want like everything else? The way things
have been going, I could see them screwing us out of it somehow, or at
least make us wait longer. What do you guys think?

Name: Dumbass
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 January 2018

Hey pines, were all 99 people too stupid to look before they crossed the
tracks? Nobody cares. Go away.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 January 2018

SAFETY FIRST BOARD.

ALL TRESPASSERS WILL BE SENT TO BLANCHARD IDAHO AND BE FORCED TO STAY
WITH L@N DISPATCHER AKA JENS BANG AND MOMMA AND MANDATED TO SCRUB THE
TINKER TOY TRAIN.

CSX killed 99 people in 10 months this year which took 12 months to
kill 99 people last year.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 January 2018

Trying to let the Clock run out.    Don't be fooled.
You have no friends with the company or your Union.

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx

Name: loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 January 2018

Crying cond.


That's funny because when they came out with the notice that all paper
pay stubs would discontinue and you would have to get them on line I
called and raised hell because I wanted a hard copy for proof if their
systems crashed. they blew me some shit telling me I could opt out of
the on line stubs if I wanted and continue the paper form. I tried
several times to keep the paper copies coming and the system would not
take my request. I again contacted payroll and they told me that I had
to get them via the gateway.

Name: OldHat
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 January 2018

UTU. Ble. What the hell?  Get your head out of the carrier's ass.   Why
haven't there been any pushback over all the men being pulled OOS.   If
there has been.  Why the hell the secrecy?     This is major news, there
should be postings on our union websites.    If it's deemed the union
was involved.  We will hold both organizations and individuals
accountable alongside with the carriers.      

We will not sit quietly on this matter.   We pay more in union dues
than any other unionized work force.   We get very little in return.  
Do your job.   Give the men updates and information on how to proceed. 
A union designated attorney should be speaking with these men today.  
The union should have filed a complaint with the DOL.  

Do your job or step down.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 January 2018

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cp-rail-stephanie-katelnikoff-facebook-1.4498140
Second time fired

Name: Crying conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 January 2018

Well dumbass, since you're the last person in North America that
doesn't have a computer, I guess you wouldn't know that you can get
your W-2 in the mail and you can get paper pay stubs. It's a simple
process on the gateway, which you can go on at work since you are
afraid to shell out the massive amounts of money it takes to have the
newfangled internet at your house. After all, we only have the ability
to make 100k. I can see why a $64 a year tax deduction hurts you
financially. Are you one of those railroaders that take light bulbs
from the hotel to save money? One that keeps cups from Burger King so
you can sneak a free refill with your dollar menu burger?

Name: JAZZY "J"
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 January 2018

For anyone wondering, this is 100% accurate and not up for debate.......
When you are furloughed you have 4 months of insurance continuation
starting after the last day of the month you last rendered service. For
example, if you worked January 1st and got furloughed January 2nd then
your insurance will continue to the last day of May, so that is just
about 5 months total. If you got furloughed January 31st then your
insurance will continue until the last day of May and that would be
just about 4 months. I am posting this for the many, many, many
furloughed already and the many, many, many, that will soon be
furloughed. I am speaking only for conductors on the CSRA roster. It
may be the same all around for every craft but I don't know 100% sure.
I am 100% sure that this is how it works for CSRA conductors. This is
not open for debate I know this is right so please save your energy.

Name: cond.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 January 2018

cond.

I will wait and see if trump pissed away our right to claim the
internet on our taxes as a business expense since the company is slowly
making everything we do or info we need to get by use of the
internet(employee gateway). He does that and takes our meals that's it
for me. March on unions to make them start mailing everything to us
again, including copies of pay stubs! There are too may railroad
workers in this country. His is pissing in the beds of a lot of people
that could vote for him!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 January 2018

WW-2 info available online?  [Like statements of earnings, etc?]
Great -- need internet access and a printer for a hard copy.
On my dime. 
OK, get 'em that way. I for one won't.  Keep it up - what if it
becomes the standard way? - less expense for the co. & less work for
workers = more job cuts.  They need to be sent hard copy via the USPS.
I'll wait for the retroactive wage increase(s) too - we'll get it.

Name: SMH
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 January 2018

January 23, 2018  and Trainmaster David Benson is still a fuckin
dumbass. Why hasn't someone busted him in the cocksucker?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 January 2018

2017 W-2 forms now available online......

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 January 2018

Hunter Harrisonís widow is happy with the board of directors  gift from
all of you at CSX.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 January 2018

It's easy to see that this company is more poorly ran then any years in
the past.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 January 2018

That's hell of an idea.  Where do these idiots come from?



https://www.wsj.com/articles/csx-board-to-require-ceos-to-get-annual-physical-exam-1516724880

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 January 2018

With no real strategy to grow carloads or revenue and an investor who
wants to cash out this long in the tooth leadership group will:  

Sell assets, Raise rates, & Fire people 

So to start:

Spin off one third of the network and get rid of at least 20% more in
people.

It sets up nicely for a sale. 

Also, Capex is being reduced so more can be returned to the investors

They are the dressing the ďpigĒ up for market.....

Name: Justice
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 January 2018

How Do I File a Complaint with the Secretary of Labor?

You may file a complaint with the Secretary of Labor. You should
contact the nearest office of the Wage and Hour Division of the
Employment Standards Administration, U.S. Department of Labor. Record
your complaint in writing and then present it in person, by letter, or
by phone. At that point, the merits of your complaint will be reviewed.
If the Department does decide to take action, it will first try to solve
your problem administratively by negotiating with the employer. If these
negotiations are unsuccessful and if it believes the FMLA was in fact
violated, the Secretary may sue the employer on behalf of the employee.



https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2018

I said this before,you young guys with no seniority I would register for
trade school or some other education to secure a future. After reading
that not a good sign.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 January 2018

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2018/01/22-csx-reviewing-8000-miles-of-rail-lines-for-potential-sale

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 January 2018

Call Today


https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 January 2018

Here is a free one.   When you speak to your attorney be sure let them
know how are layoff board works.   Employers are not allowed to show
why someone is off.     The RR had a direct hand in a hostile work
environment by providing anyone the information how or why someone is
off.

" QUESTION :Can one employee say anything to another employee that
constantly takes FMLA and is putting a burden on coworkers?

ANSWER No. This is absolutely inappropriate, and as an employer you
need to put a stop to it. Federal law permits an employee to take up to
12 weeks of unpaid, job-protected leave under FMLA. That same law
prevents the employee from being harassed by the employer or coworkers
for using FMLA. Such actions are illegal retaliation and as an employer
you face fines and other penalties if you permit an employee to do
this.

As an employer, it is your obligation to hire, train and schedule
enough staff so that use of FMLA is not a major imposition on
coworkers. The problem here is not the use of FMLA ó it is
understaffing."

Better add this to annual pods training.

Name: Kitten
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 January 2018

Should a person call and file a complaint if their spouse hasn't?  I
can't decide if we should wait it out.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 January 2018

Mr joggeer you know what birds nest is. That is when all the rapping of
wire comes undone and the traction motors smokes like a bitch on fire.
Most joggers would just isolate that traction motor. A in coming train
on the forth unit had a birds nest with a siezed axle. When we stopped
the Train it had fourteen inch skid. The hogger said he never seen
sparks of felt any thing. But he was home bound so most likely ignored
every thing. He made it past the scanner with no alarms.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 January 2018

Your telling me you would feel a half ton truck, dragging on a 120 car
loaded grain train. Donít think so buddy. I dragged a empty hopper 7
miles on the ground before the air hose came apart. Other than that we
did not know car was on the ground .w

Name: Loco 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 January 2018

Ape
Bullshitz..  no way a truck was drug 3 miles. Me and any half brained
engineer would feel the slack problem plus there would be something in
3 miles that would snag the truck or impact it. Would tear the hell out
of outside ties and ballast.  Try again.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 January 2018

They're dragging their feet.   They know they are in the wrong.  
Don't take it sitting down.    Don't put it off.  3rd parties can
file a complaint.  

                                                        CALL ASAP
https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 January 2018

Picture this loaded cab over cement truck tried to race train to the
crossing. He lost hit the third locomotive. The truck derail two units
and dozen cars. For the mans family the only thing found of him was
tissue on some cloths that was what they buried. If he would of stopped
in fifteen minutes he would of been on his way. I had to get off the
wrecking crew going to these accidents got to me. They have little
write up in news paper and no one really knows the impact of these
accidents. This was before cell phones. Now it is just a regular thing.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 January 2018

A half ton at night hit a grain train highway speed. Got lodge between
two hopper shoots. Burst into flames and was dragged three mile,and
took out switch before train stop. Fire department put fire out,body of
male was burnt to a crisp. We had to cut the truck out from under hopper
car, I can still smell it to this day. They should make posters of these
kind of accidents. Trust me it would get peopleís attention.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 January 2018

I your driving a school bus you should be a professional driver. Your
responsible for many lives. I live on the prairies. And the only thing
is cross arms. And these bus should stop check both ways.  Always no
exceptions, that goes for truck drivers and automobiles. Life is
precious and only takes a bit of time to look both ways. As a carman I
have had to go to some of these accidents. And they could of all been
prevented,if people pay attention..

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 January 2018

12,000 vehicles a day 10 school buses--no gates--no cantilevers--sight
obstructions out the yazoo--roundels which came over on the Mayflower
pointed wrong---speeding train in 10 mph zone. One of two a day and no
stop and protect order on the train or train mounted gates. Why not
fire the baboons running railroad safety from deep in the railroads
pocket? Oh--the fake railroad company front for Norfolk Southern is
just so delivery costs can be jacked up. The more handlers the more
expensive.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 January 2018

Bus driver fired drives threw active crossing with bus full of
children,
train crew lucky did not collide with bus! Again there is no cure for
stupid.

http://fox8.com/2018/01/19/i-team-video-of-railroad-crossing-arm-on-top-of-school-bus-sparks-safety-review/


Did I do that?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 January 2018

https://globalnews.ca/news/3969515/lac-megantic-trial-verdict-not-guilty/

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 January 2018

Day 19
Woke up feed my bird.  I'm making and eye patch.   Dig out a puffy
shirt.  Try to teach Trex  to sit on my shoulder.  I need a wooden
sword too.   Gonna be a fun paid day off. 
And Bacon Waffles for brakefast. Updates later my brothers.

Name: liltee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 January 2018

I'm sick of all the co abusing displacement.   Constantly causing
others hardships.  You know who you are.  I hope CSX comes down hard
you all. This is out of control.  We need the bid system now.   CSX and
the utu is just as guilty as the men letting this go on.   Making others
work more.  Never knowing when everyone is going to disappear.   We have
around 6-12 displaced playing their games any given day.  Not to mention
local chairman laying off all weekends to mark up early Monday to catch
a mail train. 
Or lay off to. Extend their vacations off days or to catch a holiday
watch the Super Bowl.

Name: Captain Crunch Berries 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 January 2018

Mayihavenever, Your a dickhead for one the blonde you talk about that's
a wig idiot next time you get in someone's pants and find a bigger
package than yours keep it to yourself.  FYI next time you fall in love
check he/she for an Adams apple dick breath

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 January 2018

Three men found not  guilty in 47 manslaughter charges. They should of
never been charged. The ceo from USA. And other executives are charged
with minor shit. If found guilty they get fine and six month in jail. I
remember the day after the disaster the ceo made statement how much
money he lost. Instead of trying to comfort the families. But there is
a lesson here. The company had no problem offering up the conductor and
other two employees as scape goats. When these ceo s and other executive
try to get employees to lax safety rules etc. Record it report it go to
your union. You donít want to be charged with a crime, because the ceo
wanted to save a few bucks. The jury was out for nine days. They came
back not guilty they know who the real guilty parties are. But they
where never charged. Be save no short cuts even if you are threaten to
be fired.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 January 2018

Bus driver fired drives threw active crossing with bus full of children,
train crew lucky did not collide with bus! Again there is no cure for
stupid.

Name: yours truly
E-mail: 10047
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 January 2018

what is the youngest date working in buffalo what long pools are left to
williard  enineers // conductors . I have been off for years

Name: Mayihaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 January 2018

Day18
Another paid weekend off.  Got me a pet bird today. Trying to teach him
to say I like blondes and I'm suing those mofos.   Snow fort about
gone. Slide has melted.   Have to find something new to do. 

Good to hear from u OG RRJ

Kitten where you from girl?

Name: bollweevil
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 January 2018

HEY!,  where is my back pay, all the experts in the crew room said we
would be getting it today (1/19). well i guess they can earn another
few days of interest if they wait until the 31st to payout. meanwhile
I'm off FMLA.. FOUR DAY WEEKEND BITCHES.. #fuckfoote

Name: billydee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 January 2018

I heard today they're going to try and wait it out until your insurance
expires.  Then place a waiver in front of you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 January 2018

kangaroo court is over.  everyone of you managers and hr personnel.
Your names will be on the list of defendants.  

thank you

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 January 2018

File a Complaint today
                3rd parties can file also


https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 January 2018

APE 10-20,

Hearing several line segments are up for consideration.  Besides lines
in the coal fields, some of the lines which have been mentioned are:

Most of Michigan, which is no secret: Grand Rapids, Plymouth & Detroit
Subs, Saginaw sub, Port Huron sub,  St. Lawrence & Montreal subs,
Decatur Sub, P&A, Bainbridge, & Callahan subs, IL & IN subs

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 January 2018

It does not matter what industry your in. There will always be those
people that if they are given an inch they will take a mile. People
that abuse the system are monitored, then they are called on abuse and
pay the price. They are really in control of there negative out come!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 January 2018

I am personally glad they are cracking down on FMLA abuse. We have had
more than a few people at my location continued to call in FMLA (some
for a day, some for months) and nothing wrong.  One person that stands
out always takes 2-3 months during hunting season for back problems
(and has been seen during that period of time every day at his hunting
club) and one for 3 years likes to take 3-4 months off for the
spring-back problems (and was seen riding his motorcycle).  

While their fellow brothers have been forced to work OT everyday.

Glad to say that these two losers were both fired last year.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 January 2018

May I 

I'm still here just on the sidelines. This FMLA issue is interesting.
During my time on CSX FMLA wasn't an issue. There was only one person
I know who had it, and that was for his wife's condition. I thought it
was only for a family member who had medical issues. My niece educated
me that it can also be used for the employee. I applied for FMLA in
early 2007 when my Mom was put into assisted living and she lived 600
miles away. It was first rejected by CSX. Apparently it was reviewed
again and granted but it was so restrictive it wouldn't of helped. If
I can remember correctly it would of allowed only 3 days every 3 months
so 12 days total a year. It was ridiculous first day driving 600 miles,
second day there, third day drive back. My Mom passed on in late 2007
so no need for it.

Name: press
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 January 2018

CREWS


Get real. You don't expect anything that comes out of Foote's mouth
to be the truth. No better than a lying politician. He will say what he
needs to at the time to make the stockholders happy. He is a wolf in
sheep's clothing just as Harrison was a false disciple. Nothing is
more dangerous than a man who claims to be religious and comes from a
religious family being given the kind of power and control that
Harrison was given. Now his followers are leading in his footsteps from
the grave. Nothing is good for any of you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 January 2018

More layoffs = declining service levels = sell CSX

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 January 2018

The extraboard is exhausted and there is nobody to fill a yard job so
what do they do.  They furloughed 10 more next week.  Sorry customers;
it's our poorly managed company.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 January 2018

Robert Pines occupation: cable installer

Mugshots.com ID: 69908027
Age: 60
Home Address: Sullivan
Arrest Date: 11/21/2013
Info: Robert Pines was arrested on the charge of Tampering With a
Witness. A warrant was issued and he remains in custody.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 January 2018

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2018/01/17/schumer-citing-d-c-report-demands-better-maintenance-local-rail-crossing/1040591001/

Schumer, citing D&C report, demands better maintenance at local rail
crossing

http://www.fra.dot.gov/Pages/press-releasesold/54.shtml
Thursday, February 03, 2005 () The Federal Railroad Administration
(FRA) has assessed civil penalties against CSX Transportation, Inc. for
multiple violations of highway-rail grade crossing safety regulations
related to a February 3, 2004 accident in Henrietta, New York where a
train struck a vehicle and killed an elderly couple.
Where was the criminal trial judge only for the CSX crew? If a real
jury got the real story the driver caught in the trap wouldn't be
going anywhere but to file a trying to kill me lawsuit against the
state and railroad.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 January 2018

I'm going to do witchcraft and make Foote die like I did Harrison.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 January 2018

Foote worked under Hh at cn. What those two did here in Canada would of
led to a prison sentence if they tried to do in the USA. Lots of
derailments and record fatalities under those two. Then worked over cp
Hh Minnie me creal is trying to still make cuts at cp. Foote will do
what he can get away with. Might not be good for employees or CSX. But
good for him and friends.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 January 2018

Foote said he wouldn't make any more disruptive moves like that of late
E. Harrison closing 8 hump yards.  Selling off lines and laying off 2000
more employees sounds pretty damn disruptive to me.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 January 2018

APE 20-30 
What are the line segments being offered for sale in regards to your
post?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 January 2018

Hearing the CSX line segments for sale or lease are being finalized and
will be sent to G&W, Omnitrax, Watco along with others within the next
two weeks.

Name: Karma
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 January 2018

As a note, according to Federal Law, (not the CSX Kangaroo court)
Individual employees can also be held accountable for harassing or
disciplining employees for using FMLA according to there Dr. approved
leave. With this being said, make sure the Attorney also goes after not
only CSX, but all employees involved in the investigation process.
i.e... the manager of FMLA who makes the decision to charge said
employee and the CSX Manager who signs the charge letter.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 January 2018

300 million paid out for 8 months
3000 jobs cut
Customers alienated
Boot program slashed
Property sold off
Locos stored
Cars stored 
Hump yards shutdown
Fmla scrutinized
Weather mark off abolished
Employees enduring undue hardships
Key employees pushed out
Internal investigation
100s cut back to craft
100s relocated
People doing 2,3 or more jobs
Local chairman being charged for Union buisness on property
2000 more suspected job cuts
Corporate tax cut
And a motherfucker wants to side with this company

Name: mayIhaveAnother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 January 2018

Day17 It be getting serious up in here.  To whoever mentioned B&O
Chairman has number to lawyer thanks. be calling today.  

HR let us know how you feel when you get cut in 2018
That be some funny stuff right their

RRJ
OG what up hadnt heard from u

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 January 2018

There is no cure for Stupid!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 January 2018

I posted on here before Christmas,smile as soon as you walk out your
front door your on video. I now of an investigated. Followed a person
2000 miles to get him on tape down hill sking. Insurance fraud. They
have the technology and track you from gps on your phone.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 January 2018

Thank you for the information regarding the waiver, just as I
suspected.

I also agree to NOT sign the waiver. Doing so is almost certain
termination if one was to ever be investigated for FMLA abuse again. It
also takes away all ability to sue, because you'd be admitting you did
abuse your leave.

I'm on my third twelve month period of FMLA intermittent leave, and I
have NEVER received any "warning letters" concerning my actual use of
FMLA leave. I know of those who have, though.

CSX also requested me to re certify my FMLA leave due to an increase in
the usage estimated by my health care provider. Not only did I complete
the re certification paperwork(which has already been approved by the
FMLA department), I had my health care provider write a letter stating
my leave during the time period of the charge letter was in fact for my
personal serious condition. Still no word from the company.

As for the "honest belief" claim in defense of a retaliation lawsuit,
it's really hit or miss, when you search online for the outcome. In a
nutshell, the defense is that the company had an honest belief of FMLA
abuse, and even if they are wrong, they can't be held liable in a
retaliation lawsuit. BUT, everything you read online shows examples of
where the company had some sort of actaul proof the leave was being
misused. In our case, the only proof the company has is that leave was
taken. Not that it was taken for other reasons, just taken period.
During a certain time frame. I don't think it works that way. Neither
does my lawyer.

Best of luck to all involved. Please keep others in the loop as to
what's happening. 

My lawyer is aware of all this. He has advised me on how to proceed if
the investigation is completed. I have plenty of money to wait this
out, even if it takes years. I will admit to nothing.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 January 2018

offered 30 day actual suspension.  With time served going against it.  
They wanted me to admit I abused my leave.  I did no such thing.  I've
proof on to top of my certification.   So I told them there was no way
I'd be signing a waiver.   There were others also I dont know if any
took their waiver.

Also we had several in the last year who received "warning letters"
stating they were using their leave not for its intentions. 
conclusion they are holding all who didnt receive said letter at a
different standard.  Be sure to tell your lawyer about these warning
letters that werent received.

They are trying to build their case on an Honest Suspicion.  Which if 
they can it's near impossible to bring charges against them.  Non
union places of employment can fire let go their employees for almost
any reason.  The union shields us of this. So the honest suspicion rule
is all they have.  
Only use your leave for it's intentions. Never post on social media.
never talk to co-workers about your leave.  Never forecast leave. 
dont do anything that could be videotaped an used against you. Your co
workers will hang you if given a chance.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 January 2018

To whomever that was offered a waiver, would you care to elaborate on
the specifics of said waiver?

My investigation was over a week and a half ago, which was postponed
after I submitted documentation from my health care provider regarding
my FMLA use during the time period covered in the charge letter. My
postponement date is still over a week away, and no word from the
company concerning the documentation I provided.

Thanks in advance.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 January 2018

Kitten


I was offered a waiver.   I believe several have been too.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 January 2018

Give them a call.   3rd parties can also file an anonymous complaint.




https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 January 2018

Tax cuts, winning back business and layoffs.  Looks like Foote is just
as big of an idiot has Harrison.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 January 2018

More layoffs coming this year.  So much for winning back customers. 
They will be the ones that ultimately pay the price.  We are the only
class 1 not hiring conductors and already have 4000 less employees then
NS with the same mileage of track.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 January 2018

Robert Pines occupation: cable installer

Mugshots.com ID: 69908027
Age: 60
Home Address: Sullivan
Arrest Date: 11/21/2013
Info: Robert Pines was arrested on the charge of Tampering With a
Witness. A warrant was issued and he remains in custody.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 January 2018

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2018/01/17/schumer-citing-d-c-report-demands-better-maintenance-local-rail-crossing/1040591001/

Schumer, citing D&C report, demands better maintenance at local rail
crossing

http://www.fra.dot.gov/Pages/press-releasesold/54.shtml
Thursday, February 03, 2005 () The Federal Railroad Administration
(FRA) has assessed civil penalties against CSX Transportation, Inc. for
multiple violations of highway-rail grade crossing safety regulations
related to a February 3, 2004 accident in Henrietta, New York where a
train struck a vehicle and killed an elderly couple.
Where was the criminal trial judge only for the CSX crew? If a real
jury got the real story the driver caught in the trap wouldn't be
going anywhere but to file a trying to kill me lawsuit against the
state and railroad.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 January 2018

Karma

Thank you,will call in the morning.

Name: Karma
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 January 2018

Kitten,

   I just spoke to a guy in the B&O General Chairman's office
yesterday. If you have been pulled OOS by CSX over FMLA, contact them
and they will give you the # of an attorney that is filing a Class
action Law suit against CSX.

Name: Kitten
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 January 2018

Has anyone filed a complaint with dept. of labor or contacted an
attorney over Fmla?

Name: Monty Burns
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 January 2018

Other companies are giving out bonuses with their tax cut money. CSX?
Layoffs...You'll get nothing and like it!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 January 2018

https://www.news4jax.com/money/csx-report-revenue-down-profits-up-more-layoffs-coming


Possible 2000 more layoffs

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 January 2018

Day16. Still no word from the man.   I think I'm gonna build snow slide
coming off my roof today.   I'm gonna have it going right into my pool.
  Do a little polar plunging.   soup sandwich

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 January 2018

Flood them today. Don't wait to see what happens.  It's been two
weeks.   CSX and your Union doesn't care that you were wrongfully
accused. 
They don't care that your living on unemployment.     The complaint is
anonymous and even if it wasn't they would not come after you. 
That would be their great downfall.

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx

Name: Avon
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 January 2018

Way to tell on yourself moron

Name: eng
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 January 2018

Ape 1-10

Shut your mouth. I know and work with Jarod and I know he didn't post
anything on this site. In fact he has made it clear he doesn't visit
sites like this let alone post on them.   You must be a tm or someone
who he pissed off.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 January 2018

Mr Brown you fuck your fellow employees by marking off whenever. Think
your smarter than ever one. Take your medicine bitch!!!

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 January 2018

Day15 show trial cancelled again.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 January 2018

I know Brown. This is a fake post.

Name: MayInothaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 January 2018

Yo - a few things.. I know .. 1) no one on here sent my posts to Human
Resources especially the one with my investigation time and date and
not by the people I called gay or wives with swinging dick 2) and I am
not .. I repeat .. I am not .. afraid of losing my job due to that
despite being warned ... I abused FMLA because it is ok to do 3) I am a
highly marketable employee in the workforce if you can tell by proper
English and grammar 4) wait... I am dead wrong about everything and
those snow forts will come in handy to live in when I canít make rent
and those woman will not let me stay with them because I donít have a
job

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 January 2018

Idiots like Jared brown... Didn't even know he was misusing Fmla!
Really? How dumb can you be? Then post on here like the company messed
up by taking you out of service. You need some ointment dog, you got
burned. Lol. Did your doctor get you Fmla for just in case an uncle
died? Just so you know, marking off Fmla for any reason other than what
you have Fmla for is Fmla misuse. Fmla is not for you to have a day off
when you need it or just don't feel like working.

Name: Jared Brown 
E-mail: Jaredbrownblet121lr@gmail.com 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 January 2018

So csx says I'm a liar, that I miss used FMLA because I marked off over
Xmas. What csx doesn't know is I had 2 two not 1 one but 2 family
members die the week of Xmas. Both uncle's one died on 122017 and just
3 days later another died. So I get woke at my away from home terminal
to a woman telling me "Mr Brown you are being pulled from service,
have a nice day" yes she actually said have a nice day. Remember not
to judge your brother's and sister's for using fmla, you don't know
what's going on in their lives.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 January 2018

Well after 11 weeks I finally got back on the board, for being diagnosed
with sleep apnea.This was after my conductor pulled the e handle on me
for nodding off. All this was on video. Stay awake out there and try
and help one another instead of what my conductor did to me.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 January 2018

Where's our money at, payroll?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 January 2018

I was twenty when I started the railroad,all Aís the older guys would
talk about is there pention and the day they could retire. We where
working afternoon shift on a Saturday. And there was a ball tournament
going on in the field next to the railroad. The old guy told me that we
will be retired at 55. Most the people playing ball with weekends off
will work till at least 65. One of our members had a perfect safety
record and had a two week holiday payed for to go to Hawaii..By the
company. There are big benefits working for the railroad but we
sacrificed a lot for it. The railway is a dangerous place to work,being
safe and getting to retirement takes all your focus on safety.

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 January 2018

Cool mo d

You prolly the  homosexual just can't admit it to yo self.     It's
all good to each his own. 
call eap if you need someone to talk to before coming out they're
there to help my gay brother.  Peace be to you

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 January 2018

Mayihaveanother,if you make that kind of money and your single. Invest
your money and. Retire early. I did fully retired at 55 and love it.
Itís not how much you make itís what you do with it. With my
investments I have more money coming in than going out. Plus I get my
railroad pention every month.

Name: Bonified
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 January 2018

Corporate office, for 30+ years
So what is the amount of overcharges by CSX up to now?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 January 2018

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2018/01/12/drivers-beware-weather-wreaks-havoc-local-highway-rail-crossings/1027674001/

...Railroad crossing malfunctions, of which there are hundreds in the
Rochester area each year, usually leave nothing worse in their wake
than a line of frustrated drivers...

..."Our signal personnel prepare for this, are highly trained in
these
operations and are prepared to respond immediately to such reports,"
she said...

Highly trained? Some nitwit from New York with a big name title for
signal maintenance for Amtrak started as CSX apprentice just 7 years
ago.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 January 2018

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/appendix-E_to_part_240

http://csx-sucks.com/SiteDist.pdf

Need a group to challenge the legality of Locomotive certification
since the baboons running railroad safety completely ignore the 16.2
feet of sight lines needed per miles per hour of the train. Well
that--level crossings for 30 feet both sides--not skewed---weather
conditions---no feed back of crossing signals to the train--occupied
crossings---no track video---etc...The piece of paper the killers hide
behind might as well come out of a Cracker Jack box.

Name: Cool mo D
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 January 2018

Nope sorry your not and FAGS can get married now by law and adopt kids 
so what's the hold up

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 January 2018

Cool mo dildo

Better get to work only 360 more payments on that double wide Trailer.

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 January 2018

I made over 90 grand in 2017.  No wife no kids and no bills.  I'm sure
I'm better off than you dog.

Name: Cool mo D
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 January 2018

Mayihavenever, isn't your minutes getting low on your Obama phone hope
so. Also you have 15 days till your next check and food stamp card.

Name: Fmla
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 January 2018

Fmla sitting at home without pay,does not seem productive. Good if you
have issue where you are needed. But to sit at home losing money is no
brainer!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 January 2018

MLK day = Fmla Day cheers to u all

Name: TM
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 January 2018

Other


Are you blind?  Are the trains running? Are the locals doing their
work? Maybe they are all behind schedule but the trains are running.
The customers are doing what they always do. Wait! They have been
dealing with this horse and pony show for years and know how it works.
The work force was cut and the trains are still moving. Maybe not as
scheduled but they are still moving. Show us the proof that one train
never made in out of the terminal and to its destination. Late trains
are being doubled up and sent out. So prove your comment that there are
not enough employees to run the railroad. YOUR FELLOW EMPLOYEES ARE TO
THANK FOR THAT! They are the ones who are taking the calls off of their
pools. They are the ones who are stepping up to make sure that the job
they have still exist. They are the ones who are making sure CSX runs
(no matter how far behind) and they have a place to work. Your crying
will do nothing. It wont change a thing. The trains are running and
your fellow workers are stepping up and making it happen.  THATS THE
FACTS!

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 January 2018

Day14 MLK Day and it's snowing .   It sure is a good day.   Big plans
with the blonde neighbor and her girlfriend.   As soon as her idiot
husband goes to work. It's playtime till then I'll be hanging in my
snow fort.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 January 2018

MLK day = Fmla Day , I love this company and country. Cheers

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 January 2018

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/appendix-E_to_part_240

http://csx-sucks.com/SiteDist.pdf

Need a group to challenge the legality of Locomotive certification
since the baboons running railroad safety completely ignore the 16.2
feet of sight lines needed per miles per hour of the train. Well
that--level crossings for 30 feet both sides--not skewed---weather
conditions---no feed back of crossing signals to the train--occupied
crossings---no track video---etc...The piece of paper the killers hide
behind might as well come out of a Cracker Jack box.

Name: Bonified
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 January 2018

Corporate office, for 30+ years
So what is the amount of overcharges by CSX up to now?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 January 2018

Itís like cn cp they cut so many jobs,and same now at CSX.They will be
forced to hire people back. As the pressure builds,they got there
operating ratio number down but now reality will set in. That they
canít run a railroad with a skeleton crews.

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 January 2018

Pines

Your post make me want to buy a bullet and rent a gun.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 January 2018

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2018/01/12/drivers-beware-weather-wreaks-havoc-local-highway-rail-crossings/1027674001/

...Railroad crossing malfunctions, of which there are hundreds in the
Rochester area each year, usually leave nothing worse in their wake
than a line of frustrated drivers...

..."Our signal personnel prepare for this, are highly trained in these
operations and are prepared to respond immediately to such reports,"
she said...

Highly trained? Some nitwit from New York with a big name title for
signal maintenance for Amtrak started as CSX apprentice just 7 years
ago.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 January 2018

All who were pulled from service for fmla need to file harassment and
intimidation law suit.

Name: Sukkas
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 January 2018

Woods and Byerly, both on a yard extra board and both took a call they
didn't have to! Wonder why more jobs get cut and more guys get
furloughed? Why do the company favors when you only hurt yourself and
everyone else in T/E? If the road board is exhausted don't take a
call, make them miss the train so they will have to add turns!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 January 2018

Just in all will be reinstated by Wednesday.

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 January 2018

Day13 slept in woke up took care of business. Look out window notice I
got work to do on snow fort.   Gonna eat left over ribs for breakfast. 
Gonna ch cl Bonnie Crotch thanks Tamala.
RRJim OG, RRWizard, keep pouring out the knowledge my brother.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 January 2018

transfer

It use to be contacting a trainmaster at the terminal you want to
transfer to, to see if they have openings. If they do then discussing
it with your trainmaster. It's usually not a problem if people are
furloughed on your consolidated roster. Might want to check to see if
there are transfer forms in the GB section on the computer. If this is
an advertised transfer then it should have instructions & contact
information. 

It use to be if one is furloughed and does a transfer they can keep
seniority in both locations till they stand for work in both locations
for a year. Then they have to make a decision which to give up. I think
that's changed having to give seniority up when transferring.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

In Canada if you have a hand gun in your trunk going to gun rage with
all the paper work. With map from house to range you
Are ok. If you go off the map from your house to gun range you get
charged and lose your gun. And have to reapply after ten years. If you
are caught with legal gun and you threaten someone you lose your gun
and go to prison. There are 500 murders a year in Canada. Most are not
with a gun. And the ones that use a gun have no criminal record  why am
I telling you this. I bought a foldable 22 cal rifle that came a part
and folded into the stock. I could fit into my lunch box. I use to put
my rifle together and shot gophers from caboose window How times have
changed.

Name: Hot tamale
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

Mayihaveanother
Have you checked out bonnie rotten by chance? That's good material,
better than fox news stuff.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

If you point a legally owned gun at someone in Canada you go to jail for
4.5 years. The judge has no say..That is a hunting rifle, a hand gun
your fucked. You get  4.5 years for threat with gun. Double if hand
gun,most murders here are done with knife. Or guns brought in from USA.

Name: Well?
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 January 2018

Still waiting on that retroactive pay, csx. Hurry the fuck up

Name: Cool mo D
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 January 2018

Yeah  they wanted to check out and see how the welfare system worked and
they got a free Obama phone with unlimited data I work every day and
can't afford it oh well fuck em

Name: frued
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 January 2018

Cool

Did your. Mother run off with a brother?  Did your wife run off with a
Brother?

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

Day12and 3/4 reminded cool  mo Dee of the swinging dick his old lady and
or momma ran of with.

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

Cool mo Dee

Why u be hatin?   I'm sorry dog if yo old lady ran of with some
swinging dick.

Name: Cool mo D
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 January 2018

It's alright brother you can come outta the closet there's a lot of
Gay rights to protect you and did you tell everyone that your neighbor
is an all male prison you have a snow tunnel to.

Name: Canada here
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

You people have better protections for the workers with your laws. My
advise is donít rub it into your employers face. Cause they will figure
out how to change the rules if the rules are being abused. Iím third
Gen. on the railway there was a time you got one day a week off. Donít
push it people donít hold up multi billion dollar business with bs
rights. Be smart protect your job and future. Artificial intelligence
is coming. Donít let it take your job.

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

Cool mo Dee

You prolly be my idiot neighbor. Lol

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

Cool mo Dee


You prolly be my idiot neighbor.  Lol

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

Hell yeah bro the snow fort has a tunnel to my porch where my hot tub
is.   My blonde neighbor been all up in there.  Her husband ain't got
no clue what's up.   I got flags, snow sentries on gaurd and a snow
slide coming off my porch.  Dog I wish I could post pics.

Name: Cool mo D
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 January 2018

To mayo have another I bet your a fat ass slob with a receding hair line
and couldn't get any booty even if they died and willed it to you. Most
people that talk about getting it like you are gay. You fatass bald homo
lol

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 January 2018

Mayihaveanother,
That snow fort you built is it pretty sweet? How many hot chicks do you
think would fit in it? Did you take that hot blonde in there with you?

Name: Cool mo D
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 January 2018

Everyone please change the fucking subject from FMLA shit and marking
off weather either go to work or don't who gives a diddly shit.

Name: Canada here
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

We drive in these conditions every year. If we get stranded we have
extra cloths blankets etc. Now there are cell phones to call for help.
1982 before cell phones there was a car in the ditch just before the
crossing. It was minus 45f these two women jumped  out stopped our
train we picked them up. High heels short dress small fur coats. The
only thing that saved them is they stayed in there car till they seen
us .We called for ambulance to meet us at next crossing. We saved there
lives but one woman had to have both feet amputated. Donít go out in
dangerous conditions unless matter of life and death.

Name: Legal
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 January 2018

Crews  
If the state you live in has issued an emergency order to stay off the
roads if at all possible and you feel it is to dangerous to drive to
work, LC is correct in advising you to contact your crew management as
soon as possible. Give details on the emergency order. If you are
intimidated and they actually tell you that they will not mark you off
weather and you must report or you will be charged with refusal 
To work or another form of discipline make sure to tell them very
clearly and strongly that if you are involved in an accident and your
vehicle is damaged or you are injured that you are putting them on
notice that the company will be held liable for all damages. There have
been several cases won in several states where employers ordered their
employee's to report to work in dangerous conditions and they were
involved in accidents. You must make sure you put them on notice and
record the conversation. This will help ensure the conversation does
not convieniently disappear. If you are involved in a accident make
sure you have the local authority responding note in your statement why
you were out driving and contact your insurance agency as soon as
possible. Report the same. Names,dates and time of the conversation are
critical especially if you are injured. Contact your union
representative.

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

Day12 built a snow fort. Took care of my buisness. Making sno cream
going try to get neighbor lady over to get n. Hot tub.  Got wait till
her old man goes to work. I'll keep an eye on the computer to see when
he gets out.  Will give updates. Over and out

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

This is how it is,do what is safe for you. Deal with the company paper
work later. Your life is more important than CSX policies. It not hard
to figure out.

Name: BillyDee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 January 2018

Ape
Why the hell are guys like you on here?    It's CSX sucks. And you're
 obviously a company whore. 


Men tried to lay off weather because of dangerous driving conditions
and were told to lay off SICK.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

The company ain't telling anyone to layoff for weather, you got it
backwards dude

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 January 2018

Guys off for alleged Fmla abuse.  Then company tells men to lay off SICK
do to dangerous driving conditions.   This company is a JOKE.   Talk
about hypocritical.   Ergo what ever the hell is convenient.  No ethics
No Morals.

Name: LC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 January 2018

CREWS

If you have any supervisor or crew caller tell you cant mark off for
weather and they tell you use a sick mark off then you should
immediately let your LC know and call the ethics hot line and report
them. It is a serious ethics violation for any supervisor or manager to
tell you to miss use a sick day mark off. Marking off sick is supposed
to be use for illness not for bad weather and dangerous driving
conditions. If you are in a situation that you feel you can not drive
safely then you immediately call crew management and let them know what
is happening. Put them on notice that if you are called and conditions
have not changed then you will not be able to come in. Tell them you
are not refusing to work but are unable to drive in and request they
send a PTI or Taxi to get you. If they refuse then tell them that you
will try to come in and you will most likely be very late. Request the
Crew managers voice mail and leave a message for them. Call your yard
and tell them you will be late if you can make it in. It is also best
to call the state police and ask if they have any emergency orders to
stay off the highways. You should do this first before you contact CMC
or any other supervisor. This way you can tell them there is a state
emergency order to stay off the roads. Telling anyone to use a sick
mark off is a serious violation of company policy. Do not let any
supervisor intimidate you into doing this. Report them immediately!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 January 2018

Quit drawing attention to Louisville you morons.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 January 2018

Baltimore guys told same thing last winter.  Must have manager authority
to use weather mark off. Took it to the LC, next time tried to use it,
same thing. Not sure where it went from the LC, but nothing changed.
This year they told us there is no weather mark off, if you cannot make
it in, mark off sick & take the points.

Name: Transfer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

What steps would one take to transfer from one csra location to another
csra location? Thanks in advance to anyone that can tell me about it.

Name: Foote
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 January 2018

Glad everyone in louisville got to mark off weather after 2nd shift, CMC
was telling everyone on 1st and 2nd, were told they had to have an email
sent by a trainmaster in order to mark off weather, just a heads up they
r trying to stop you from useing that to. No kiding this happened to
serval pepole from what the general committee told me.

Name: Ingle J Money
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 January 2018

Looks like you need about 6 years to be the lowest man in Louisville now

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 January 2018

Yat


Yeah it ain't safe drop the W.  Take care of yo buisness.
Check out the babes on cable news.

Name: YAT YAS
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 January 2018

They droppin like flies marking off weather in Louisville tonight, good
on them! They want you outside the cab? Okay then let's just stay home
and watch movies in the nicely heated living room. Company can't touch
you for marking off weather, if it ain't safe to drive to work then it
ain't worth trying. Besides who wants to be out in this crap working
like a dog and not being afforded the opportunity to take a little
break to warm up? Put these managers and yardmasters outside for an
hour and they wouldn't make it, chumps!

Name: Retired Now
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 January 2018

APE:

Remember when signals had to be normally, usually, located to the
engineer's right side? The feds helped change that. 

Steam locomotives and some older diesels had the long nose as the
front, facing forward.  [Every FNG I ever helped didn't know what the
letter "F" displayed on locomotives was for.] 
Staying completely alert on a heavy train that is a drag isn't easy,
especially considering the hours, etc. The road lifestyle takes a toll
on a person's health, well-being.
Is doing that worth the pay/benefits/hassles?  YES sometimes, but more
times NO.


RRing isn't for everyone. The truth be known: many can't handle it;
including EACH\EVERY position, from the biggest head cheese on down. 

To all: Take care of yourselves & your family. That's #1. 
Don't act inconsiderate and/or selfish though - to anybody.  
Good luck to everyone who sticks with it, and don't forget -
Safety First.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 January 2018

CSX Auditing
YES I know you watch this site and who is posting.
You said Auditing would call today but didn't. The last time we met
was with Auditing VP Bill Maeser and General council Randy Moon. I then
met with Fl. DOT Investigators and they ask what CSX next move would be?
I told them to expect CSX to pay them A visit stating I was nuts, he
tried to extort money from CSX and can't be listened to. HA! I had an
insider with Fl. DOT who kept me informed in exchange for my help. The
Fl. DOT Racketeering Investigator had to be physically held down when
he came across the table on Moon and Maeser. Didn't know I knew that
one did you? I would have loved to been there when CSX tried to
illegally silence me for trying to save crew members and public lives.
Guess at this point I Lock N Load HUH?

Name: Mr.Ed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 January 2018

MayI

We're on to you. We will hunt you down.  When we do I'm going to
donkey kick you in the head.

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 January 2018

Day11.5 going sledding with a blonde outside of Nastville,TN

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 January 2018

Yes for each visit to the ER you get points. Once you get enough points
your entered for a prize.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 January 2018

Got my new insurance cards in the mail today.  It says the emergency
room co-pay is $0.  Do we get points for er visits?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 January 2018

In the eighties I blocked the deadman we both fell a sleep went threw a
red board. We both where fired. Took a long time to get job back.
Happened all the time back then. I can remember when crew fell asleep
went threw red board. Had head on with via passenger train it was a bad
one. It woke the conductor up in the caboose. He should of known they
went threw board and pulled the cord. He was fast asleep he denies it
till this day. Good thing they did away with deadman pedal a lot safer
now.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 January 2018

Most on my sub dozes off.  Especially when to and ptc are active.   
Good thing trainman don't run those guys are always knocked out.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 January 2018

So if your out of service for sleeping behind the controls. How many
whoops are you going to jump threw to get to,running train again. You
now would be viewed as a safety hazard to fellow employees and the
public and yourself.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 January 2018

Don't nod off while you are at the controls, I've been off two months
today for sleep apnea. I hope to mark up by next week. The camera seen
that I nodded off twice and missed blowing the horn once. I was
immediately put on medical leave. At least the company offers light
duty for 30 days. Stay awake out there, help each other out.

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 January 2018

RRJ


Is an OG hollor out my brother

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 January 2018

Turd Ferguson

Are the unions clairvoyant? You say they should already know about
problems. Not unless they're seriously addressed at the union
meetings. It's your union and everyone else's. Nothing happens with
crew room/shanty banter or posting on here. It's getting people
together voicing their concerns at the union meeting. Getting it into
the union meeting minutes and doing follow ups is what counts. Plus if
only one person complains it might not get taken serious but if a group
complains then that says something is a problem.

Just paying union dues isn't a gold pass. It takes getting involved.
Till people understand that fact nothing changes. 

I expect some to say "bullschidt". That's why it doesn't change.

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 January 2018

Day11(am) still no word from tha man.   Gonna make some bacon pancakes.
Put some bacon n the pancakes. Maakin PaaaaanCakes.  And then 8to9
watch news channel 9 then 9to 930ish take care my business.then  
Netflix, call of duty,some fbook, call up my boys n talk bout how much
better I use to have it NOT!  Will update u dawgs this afternoon.

Name: Turd Ferguson
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 January 2018

I pay union dues for the union to do a job, it IS their job to know what
issues we have! The messed up part is that they do know the problems we
have and still not much happens.

Name: Turd Ferguson
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 January 2018

When people complain about how useless our union is, the go to rebuttle
by the super pro union members is always the same "Stop complaining,
voice yourself at the union meetings, if you don't go to the meeting
then you have no right to complain". Bullshit, the complaints we have
are heard through many outlets, this site, the locker room, social
media, etc. Our local chairman all the way to the top know the
problems. I don't need to show up and say anything because any
complaint I or anyone else has is already known.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 January 2018

H

Maybe one day when you really need fmla they will force you to the
extra board.

Name: MayIhaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 January 2018

Day10 gave fox a break  hearing all kinds of rumors, still no word from
the man, this stuff getting crazier than a tree full of squirrels. What
the h I'm gonna rub 1 off call it night

Name: H
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 January 2018

Regardless of whether or not the company brought it on themselves, Fmla
abuse still screws over all your co workers. Anyone that has Fmla
should be forced to the xtra boards period. Bet there wouldn't be so
many with Fmla if that were the case.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 January 2018

FMLA

Get over it.  This company brought it on themselves.  I don't blame
anyone for having fmla; no matter what the reason is.

Name: Waiting..
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 January 2018

Hey csx! Where's my back pay???? Gotta make sure you hold onto that til
the last minute to make that interest! Don't worry about us and our
families. 
My lawyer and I are ready just in case it's not on next week's
earnings statement. January 31st is the deadline in case it slipped any
one of your old, dimentia riddled minds! Can't wait to hear from ya!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 January 2018

Shercom man dies on the job. Company shamed not forced to put in safety
switch on piece of equipment that could of saved a life. Then
government imposes small fine. Back to business as usual. Switch cost $
2000.00. Should of been in place before man died. Several hazard reports
put in before accident which where ignored.

Name: FMLA
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 January 2018

Sorry to say that there is FMLA abuse. Everyone knows it. The ones that
take it for migraines, sneezes, diarrhea and upset stomachs do not
belong on the RR. It is selfish, unprofessional and a burden on your
coworkers. Unfortunately, some innocent people will go down because of
the abusers. Take disability and find another job. Everyone around you
knows what you are doing and really does not like you anyway.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 January 2018

Get real ,,,,, I am real , Iím at home on fmla itís raining .  Get real
people only care about themselves not there brothers

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 January 2018

Iím retired last year. I asked the same thing at cp. told that if
management does not want to wear Ppe so be it. If they want to work
unsafe and get hurt they have to answer to there bosses. But if
management does things that affect the safety of the union members then
it gets full attention. The government watch dogs have a title great pay
and benefits. They go threw the motions to protect there phoney balloney
jobs. The government is not going to interfere in railway business.
Until members of the public are affected and there is a public out cry.
Big business does what they want and if damage to property or life is
done. They compinsation with money,no one goes to jail. Thatís my two
cents worth!

Name: Intimidated
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 January 2018

UNIONS!!!!

You LC's are apparently on here all the time along with the FRA and
other federal agencies.  Got a question for you.  How many more years
are you guys going to sit  back and allow csx management to break their
own rules all the time just to get things done quicker or to keep their
asses out of hot water for late trains and dwell time. How about you
pushing a change in the good faith challenge rules and start making
them cover more incidents. Like breaking the class 1 brake test laws.
How about them walking around without flash lights and proper PPE in
the fields. How about them using the phones all the time and calling
the crews all day long leaving messages and then busting our asses
because we didn't call them throughout the day and tell them every
time you took a piss!  How come the managers get to break the rules
that guys I have worked beside have been written up for. This horse
shit of coming up with rumor mill rules and nothing in writing has
gotten out of hand for way too long.  Why don't you do something about
this. I have reported this crap. I have called the ethics committee. I
have stepped up.  Now how about you doing your part in this. Why
doesn't the union circulate a system wide form to all union members
that you fill out with all we have seen and encountered. Make it
confidential. No names required. Just dates and who was doing it. Start
collecting information. That would be a start. Let management know they
got to play by the rules too. DO something!

Name: LTWB
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 January 2018

Why Staley? Why are you on LJ551 when you are assigned to a yard extra
board?

Name: get real
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 January 2018

Cond.1-10

Big mouth pie hole mole.  If you aren't a company mole then you need
to get your shit together. You think its funny. People are sitting at
home without a damn job because of this crap. You think this is a joke.
No one knows how long they will be out. No one knows what this rat hole
company has up their sleeve. Rumors are they are saying that they had
to whistleblow/report because if they have suspicions that someone is
breaking federal law they will be just as liable for not reporting as
the person breaking the law. If they think your breaking FMLA law they
have to stop your activities until it is further investigated. That
means pull you out of service. You might get back to work and get back
pay but you can bet your ass the company wont get in any hot water for
this. Don't blame the unions either. They aren't a federal agency .
If the feds say what they did is within their rights then the unions
cant do a thing about it. All they can do is protest and raise hell.
You people have got to learn what power the unions have and don't
have.  Quit being a smart ass and making jokes about this. Peoples
lives are screwed up right now and they aren't laughing at home.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 January 2018

Itís raining = fmla on this local job xtra board man can have it

Name: Liquor Split
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 January 2018

Didn't Creel take over and immediately apologize for the environment
harrison created? Then undo a lot of Harrison's work.
I'm not sure, but seems like I heard or read that somewhere. 
P.S. I intentionally do not capitalize the h in harrison, this is not a
typo it is on purpose.
P.S.S. Check out the name I used, isn't it clever and fun?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 January 2018

Surely their not that stupid.

Name: ďBad DealĒ Creel
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 January 2018

Foote is not a play maker. ďBad DealĒ Creel is headed our way by summer.
From rumors I hear he is a younger version of the old man only worse.
His current employer paid 25 million to settle his theft or espionage
from his previous employer. In what world does your employer pay 25
million for the things you took without permission and then get a
promotion to CEO. Bad deal... all around. Well unfortunately I believe
this is the calm before the Creel storm. I guess it can get worse.

Name: OOS TOO
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 January 2018

Hogger  

Thanks man. At least he listened to you. Try to help someone out and
those damn company moles just ruin everything. Someone needs to choke
em out.

Name: MayIhaveanother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 January 2018

Just keeping it real.   Thank for advice hogger.   I'm out for the
night made some soup. I stuck m foot in it.  Man it's good.  I'm
going eat up and call it an early night.   Will see my fox girls bright
and early.

Name: hogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 January 2018

ALL IDIOT POSTERS

What the hell is wrong with you. LC and OOS is trying to help that
stupid kid. He has already given up too much info. If you are really a
railroad employee then you have to know how the company goes after
anyone who has anything bad to say about them. Quit encouraging this
guy. I think your the company mole. Your just trying to get him to
reveal more than he has. I noticed he said he was going back to his
crib. Im guessing he aint no country guy and a good chance he's black.
Just guessing. He also said he sits in the hotel and takes care of his
business so we know he's most likely on a pool. You all know how it
works out here. They are already probably trying to piece it together.
What happens is they decide they know who it is and wait till he gets
back and then stalks him. what happens if they got the wrong guy and
they start stalking the poor guy and he get pulled out of service for a
bunch of trumped up bullshit failures he didn't deserve. 

MayIhave another.......SHUT THE HELL UP! They are trying to draw you
out.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 January 2018

LC

You must be a real dumbass. Sucking down the company kool aid.If you
believe this will  make it to real court of law.  Even if it did
seriously doubt a juror red that post.   If the company knew who may I
is it wouldn't Change his outcome regardless.   More likely than not
it all not true. It someone making fun of how stupid this place is. 
Dumbasses like you is why the company thinks we're a joke.

Name: dumnuts
E-mail: www.dumbnuts
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 January 2018

Pinenuts is the turd.  Turn it over. If it smells, it is Pineturd.

Name: Show Trial
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 January 2018

Oops too, LC

Company moles or company suck asses. 


May I.  

Keep us updated

Name: OOS TOO
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 January 2018

Mayihaveanother 

The LC is right!! Quit being an idiot. If your telling the truth it
won't be hard to figure out who you are. 9.5 days off,hearing at 1330
and then postponed. Pretty easy to narrow it down. If you have been
hired more than 6  months then you should know how they retaliate. Your
out in the open now.  Only thing I can say is I hope you got more
seniority than me and your working on my terminal. Keep running that
mouth!

Name: Lc
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 January 2018

Conductor
 I have news for you. Not only am I not marked off union business, I
don't abuse it either as many do. It's a shame that your too ignorant
to understand the point of my post. No one needs to hear or read about
some morons activities of beating his meat and knocking one off. Are
you to stupid to understand that it's the public that reads this site
and could possibly be someone who just might be sitting in the court
room with you. Don't turn this idiots post around on the union. I just
hope it's not my local that will be standing next to him. No telling
what will come out of his mouth. Get a clue. it looks bad on all of us
when someone post that kind of trash.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 January 2018

What he said.  CSX does suck and the unions are in bed with them.  This
here proves it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 January 2018

I agree May I. 
The unions should be outraged that our rights are being violated, not
telling us to be quiet. This is some screwed up stuff here, and twice
as screwed up that the unions aren't standing up and letting them have
it. I vote we reduce our Union dues to the same level as what they put
out.

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 January 2018

LC

It's called CSX sucks.  Here's a crazy idea.  Instead of being laid
off Union buisness reading post on these sorts of forums.   How about
you and that crippled ass Union doing your job I pay over $100 a month
to.   I haven't red anywhere or heard of anything you girls are doing.
  There is more organization by RRers on this site than any other.   

Day 9and3/4 reading a  has been's post and silly enough to respond. 
Back to my Netflix binge.

Name: LC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 January 2018

MayIhaveanother

As much as you think you are right and plan on getting your job back,
your post is immature, lacks any sense of class and pretty much makes
anyone in the public who reads this site get the impression that
railroaders are low class and no better than dog doo. You need to grow
up. You need to take this seriously. CSX didn't do this without tons
or research through their legal teams and coaching from the federal
agencies. If this is the attitude and professionalism you bring to work
maybe you should just consider taking medical leave or apply for
disability if you really are in need of FMLA and have a serious
condition. Have some pride. That post is more information than anyone
of us on the railroad needs to read! Your not funny.

Name: Mayihaveanother 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 January 2018

Day 9.5 out of kangaroo court. Investigation was postponed. Lol headed
to the crib to watch Fox News hot babes and rub one off.  #lifeisgood
#imsueing #imstilloff #lovenit

Allleged Fmla misuse

Name: MayIhaveAnother
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 January 2018

Im attending a dog and pony show at 1330.  Part of me wants to be put
back in.  The more I sit around beating my meat.  The more I realize I
don't give a rip.  I've been out since the 2nd. CSX owes me roughly
about 2700.  So do I really want to be working when  I can sit here
watching Oprah scratching my ass. 
Day 1 called LC
Day 2 scared
Day 3 nervous
Day 4 jacked off a couple times
Day 5 binged on Netflix 
Day 6 ordered pizza continued my Netflix binge
Day 7 woke up rubbed one off thinkin I can get use to this stayed up
late playing video games called an old fling rubbed one off
Day 8 woke up rubbed one off laughed at Fox News rubbed one off
watching the blonde
Day 9 called LC wanting to postpone this hearing no such luck I'm
going to take a shower and rubb one off will give updates later.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 January 2018

I hope those affected by being taken out of service have Job Protection
Insurance? Collect it and the RRB unemployment. Same goes for being out
of service under a medical. Collect the RRB sick benefits & short term
disability policy from the union contract. I'd have my doctor take me
out of service medically for a while if things were so bad. Kudos to
those who learned how to play the system. Just sometimes there are
consequences. That's what is happening now. It's a different playing
field politically in this country with corporations having the upper
hand. POTUS appoints the members that govern these issues FRA, NMB,
Secretary of Labor etc... and they're corporation friendly.

Name: HA!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 January 2018

APE 
You got that right!  The company mole must have been told to do
something about the legal advice being given on here. Surprised a
lawyer hasn't chimed in.  Or maybe they don't like where the other
topics are going like the piece of crap TM who ordered crews to blow
the horn for the nut job HH. Wonder just how that investigation is
going to go for the company knowing the man had one leg in the grave
and his ill health was obvious to everyone. Still haven't heard what
exactly has happened to the agreement was made and the money that
changed hands. A lot of things are being said about the safety in the
yards and violations of federal laws. My favorite is the rumor mill of
rules the supervisors always toss out there. They been doing this shit
since the day I was hired. Always coming up with some new rule they got
an email or memo about but never produce the info. Never have it out in
a bulletin or system notice letting everyone see it. How does a
supervisor tell everyone that they know of a rule change and get away
with not being able to produce it or produce a bulletin. For now on Im
calling the operating rules department and ask them about it point
blank. Get the info right from the horses mouth. 

Keep it up little mole. You cant stop the truth!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 January 2018

Real men donít kiss and tell.Just guys with a micro dick,and big ego.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

No employee
Yo old lady probably bent over right now by a RRer.  True story

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 January 2018

Yes you people have a lot better system in the USA. In Canada if you get
hurt on the job you go on compinsation. You have to do there treatment
and when they feel you are ok to work even if your not .Your forced
back to work and cut off benefits and if you canít do your job to
employers standards they can let you go. You canít sue employer here
for being injured on the job. Your at compinsation boards mercy. And
most of the time they support the employer.your FMLA sounds like a good
program for workers. We would only dream of having your system here in
Canada. Your lucky in USA.envy from Canada!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 January 2018

FMLA:  Length of time?  Twelve (12) weeks?  
Intermittent use would be how many days per month?  Seven (7)?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

We don't have workers comp on the railroad.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

The only investigation that can be done concerning FMLA would be done
between the doctor that authorized it, and the csx chief medical
officer. Even then, there are federal guidelines that have to be
followed. It is clearly written what is allowed and what isn't. Now if
you have FMLA for appointments on specific dates, and you used it
besides those dates, they can request an investigation which would
allow you to go to your doctor to get proof that you needed it during
that time, and they have to accept it if filled out correctly. These
are the ducks that everyone is talking about that you should be lining
up. However most FMLA is for multiple appointments, home care,
treatments, things of that nature, and they can't even ask you about
that. They can not! Doesn't matter when you used it as long as you
didn't use it for 6 months straight. It is implied that FMLA users may
use it more often, or for more days than what you were approved for, and
in that case, they do have a right to request an amended form from your
doctor. Most of the time, they won't mess with you anyways as long as
it's not excessive.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 January 2018

Your boss must of been a beta, pussy whipped punk. You and her would of
got a good spanking if it was me. Alfa male. True story!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

My boss caught me at his house with his wife bent over.   I was laid off
due to stress.  It was very therapeutic Untill he walked in.    I'm not
sure if I'll get my job back.


True story

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 January 2018

If your off on workers comp.Or your FMLA leave I would not put it past
CSX to hire investigators. If your off for any reason and they video
taping you golfing or dancing up a storm in a bar. It could contradict
why you said you where off. When they need you to work some are out
having a good time. I tell everyone once you leave the privacy of your
home. To smile for the camera, you are for the taking!

Name: Agree
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

Why is there over 100 men out of service other than someone wants to
swing their dick

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

Misuse of leave how? What was their proof? They can't just decide you
misused it. They can't even ask you why you were off. That's between
you and your doctor. It's not their business, that's why you are
federally protected under FMLA.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 January 2018

Charged with alleged misuse of leave.

Name: Tee
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 January 2018

Brakeman 1-10
Why are you terminated? What charges?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 January 2018

If crews are doing number one brake test are you changing brake shoes
that are worn out all so. They have to be changed if they are worn
under 3/8Ē including the backing plate. Are you going into the computer
to see if it has had a complete diagnostic break test within five years.
Just because they set up and release. Is the piston travel within the
limits. If the slack adjuster is bad order and you have excessive
piston travel you might not have hand brake pressure to hold the car
when it is set off. To comply with a number one test there is a lot
more to it than what they are asking you to do. Brake rods canít be
worn more than fifty percent etc

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

As of today I'm terminated.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

We don't need you carpet bagging ass up here.

Name: car insp.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

CEEEESEEEE

Go screw yourself man. Your stupid crap is not helping anyone. POSER!


You conductors and engineers better start covering your asses. We have
witnessed some TM ordering crews to violate the hell out of the class 1
brake test rule and when we asked a few if they knew what they were
doing was wrong they said the TMs claim they talked to the FRA and they
said they can do the test they were doing it.

Read your rules book as well as the FRA codes. When your doing an
initial test at your terminal you cant do a roll by inspection before
you do your brake test. Some guys have been coupling into their cuts
and pulling the cars out doing a roll by inspection of the release
before doubling back to their next cut. Then the Tm is making them pull
out the second cut and hang tele and then walk the set, get on and head
out. We read the CSX rules books a hundred times. this is a total bull
shit class one test. They say the FRA said it didn't matter whether
you see the roll by release first of last. BULLSHIT! You have to do a
pre inspection of both sides of the cars from the ground before you can
do a roll by release of the brakes. Its black and white in your FRA
CFR49 200-299 rules. A roll by release does not constitute as a pre
safety inspection of equipment from the ground. Your TM is lying to you
and is going to throw you under the bus if the FRA is standing there and
catches you. He isn't going to admit he told you the FRA said that
because its bull shit. Not only is it an FRA violation its a violation
of CSX brake rules. Man, don't go down for these ass holes because
they want to rush you out in cold weather. We don't want to report it
but if we keep seeing it we will have to. If you don't have the balls
to call them on it or call the FRA we got to!

Name: no more
E-mail: todd novack
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

How far are they cut back in buffalo . what year any long pools to
williard left . how many yard jobs . or all cn jobs

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 January 2018

be confidential? I donít want to lose my job.
A: All discussions with WHD are confidential. All complaints are
confidential; the name of the complainant and the nature of the
complaint are not disclosed. The only exceptions are: when it is
necessary to reveal a complainant's identity, with his or her
permission, to pursue an allegation; and when the WHD is ordered to
reveal information by a court. 


1-866-487-9243 dept of labor

3rd party can even file a complaint

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

Just woke up , who won the game ? guess Iíll stay on fmla , donít want
to go to work at 10 pm

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 January 2018

Not Sucking Up

My response to "New Guy" addressed the unions. That y'all have to
seriously get involved. Go to the meetings. Get angry. You get 30-40
angry people at a meeting that LC had better be calling the GC right
afterwards to get their arse down to the next meeting to address the
concerns. If you don't like what you hear from the GC get angry again.
It's your union. It's not just paying union dues. If enough SMART/UTU
locals & BLE-T divisions start hollering then the GC's & the national
will take notice. Way I see it there's no involvement these days. I
might be retired but I show up to 1-2 BLE-T division meetings a year to
see what's going on to stay informed. It's pathetic only 6-8 people
show up out of around 100 members. It's almost dead silence just going
through the motions.

Name: SeeeeDeeeeeee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

All you girls cut  back on the seeeeeeDeeeeeeee are  shit conductors.
Fat brown thinks he knows everythang.  Don't be trusting dyke halls
and Charlie palmdick.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

What's the deal in Willard and new castle? Anyone seen or heard
anything lately? What has been going on, anything new?

Name: Beek a Poo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 January 2018

What's up Louisville? These cutback engineers done forgot how the
ground game works? Really, that fast? Or you never was a good conductor
to begin with, which is it? Yall need to be retrained as conductors or
something if yall gonna be cut back a while cuz yall be suckin right
now. I've seen yellow hats running around here better than yall! Oh I
get it, you mad cuz you cut back so you just actin dumb right? If
that's it then watch out... TM Rain gonna getcha lol. Peek a boo from
the bushes sukka!

Name: Hugh Jorgan
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2018

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2018

Roll Tide , Iím on Fmla

____________________________________________________-

Lol!! That's some  good shit!! Go Dawgs!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2018

Roll Tide , Iím on Fmla

Name: Qwerty
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Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2018

What about j rains

Name: Ozzy
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Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 January 2018

Name-J.Rains
Title-trainmaster louisville osborn hump yard

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 January 2018

Re: Not Sucking Up
Amen, Amen and Amen!!!
There are other sites to post on besides disrupting this one. Use
them!!!!
I have a lot of stuff to post regarding safety and corporate action. It
is rare that I get a response other than trashing me. I have to consider
these posts as a mole trying to discredit the information. I enjoy old
stories and what's going on as much as any other but there's a place
for it. How can readers be slowly taken to where railroads are headed
when you cant follow the posts due to garbage. Be respectful when
posting, it just mignt save your job and certainly effect your working
conditions.

Name: Not sucking up
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2018

RRJIM AND THE REST

So now we have gotten off on a tangent about who worked harder and who
was better and blah blah blah blah. Tired of reading about FMLA abuse??
Who gives a rats ass how things were or how tough the old heads had it.
What we need to do is focus on the here and now.  Your days are gone. 
So tired of hearing the same old stories...I remember when.  
Don't lose focus guys. Focus on what's happening now. That's what's
important. We got the old crow dead and buried now and a new CEO who
hasn't made his way in yet to introduce the new sherrif in town. Mark
my word he's going to. It's 2018 and a new year. Time to take our
union's by the horn. Take back OUR RIGHTS AS UNION MEMBERS. Our right
to have a say in the back room decisions. Time to blow in every
supervisor who tells you to go do what your told you piece of crap and
put your claim in for the violation later. That's deliberate union
busting and blatant disregard for agreements between the union and
carrier. Start naming names. Everyone in the system needs to know the
names of hostile union hating supervisors. This site is your voice to
the public. USE IT! Ignore the posers on here. Learn to pick out the
company moles and distractors. Notice how our most famous poster has
been missing? Probably using a new MO. noticed how he disappeared with
the FMLA frenzy. Probably the one who started the mud slinging with the
old heads. Ignore them. Concentrate on the here and now! We got rusted
out freezing motors with bad seals on the Windows and doors. We got
junk motors that can't hold the air or keep the main reservoirs pumped
up. We still got Tele's droping out on too long of trains.  Just had
another 198 car train. Rumors are orders are being put out to bottle
air on cuts of cars when switching and engineers to put  AC motors in 4
knotch to get the air up. Idiots! Can it get any more stupid!

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 January 2018

Filing a complaint with the dept of labor is what you do before you're
terminated.  They get involved and push the company to resolve the
matter.  It lets the company know that you will not sit Quietly.  
After termination the company is less likely to freely listen and must
be served a demand letter from an attorney.


DONT WASTE ANY MORE TIME FILE A COMPLAINT 

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 January 2018

Yes in my thirty five years with the rr I was layed  off nine times.the
longest twenty months I worked at slaughter house then got called back.
I started in1981 and I witnessed all the technology changes over the
years. At the end of my career there where twelve inspector per shift
now two. Soon you will see one person per train ,and more technology in
all departments that will cost more jobs. All as I can say the way it is
now I could not do it over again.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 January 2018

Pulled out of service1-2 investigation for 1-8 showed proof of my
layoff.  Investigation postponed.

Name: RRJim
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 January 2018

I understand that explanation. The other one you blasted train crews.
Technology wiped a lot of people out of a job. Rail yards at one time
were almost like a small town 24/7 with people everywhere, today there
ghost towns. When change came a lot of people fought it and the
railroads just cut more jobs. That was the point I was making.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 January 2018

My point being before the computer all departments got away with a lot
of shit..Safety is important but at some points we safetied our selfs
out of work. The new people today canít get away with nothing like we
did!

Name: RRJim
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 January 2018

I don't know where you worked out of but it sounds more of a figment of
your imagination. There were some lazy Carmen that's why a lot of them
are gone. Terminal I worked out of they didn't even bother calling the
car department at another yard to drive down to do brake test they had
the yard crews do it. When they moved them to the other yard it was a
10 minute ride to get to the other one and they would take 2 hours to
get there. So, they cut the jobs in half. A typical case of sometimes
people are there own worse enemy. Technology took the caboose away with
Head End Train Devices & End of Train Devices. You car inspectors when
it began were only putting on FRA lights so we didn't have
communication with the rear of the train. Why didn't you protest? We
did. You chose to be a Carmen so quit being so envious of people in
transportation. Our lives weren't that glorious like some think. You
went home everyday after your shift. We didn't know when we would get
back. That was the life we chose.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 January 2018

Ya I remember the good old days, when a conductor would delay the train
because the caboose never had a butcher knife or kettle in the caboose.
Or windows not clean enough,or they had to switch the caboose out
because it had solid draw bar not a sliding sill. That is one of the
reasons they got rid of the caboose. And when carman would do number
one test the conductor would pull the emergency cord. So carman walked
the train and crew would get cancelled. I knew all the tricks they
played to delay or cancel the train. Canít do it now with the
computer!!

Name: RRJim
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 January 2018

New Guy

When we said it was getting worse we meant management. The job hasn't
changed just the people in charge. Railroads ran more efficient before
computers. Clerks took numbers they knew where every car was located.
Crew callers & train dispatchers were located at every big terminal so
train calling times were nearly spot on. Locomotives were serviced
after every run. Brake test on all trains before departing no run
thru's. The list goes on. With technology it screwed up the railroads
it didn't make it better. We were the ones back in the 80's & 90's
who had to adapt before some you were even born. As for the unions
that's up to y'all to make better by getting involved. I made it to
4-6 meetings a year if I was in town I went. Union meetings were packed
because we cared. We were angry a lot of times over the changes. It's
pathetic to go to a meeting today seeing only 6-8 people bother to show
up out of over 100. Crew room BS doesn't get it. You get 30-40 angry
railroaders at a meeting then the GC's have to take notice.

Name: RRJim
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 January 2018

Hugh Jorgan

Wrong! I started on the C&O in the '70s retired from CSX in 2010 after
36 years starting out as a brakeman then 32 years as a road Locomotive
Engineer. We had 4 on a train it was 2 on the locomotive and 2 on the
caboose. During runs one out of four trains had to be stopped and
walked for stuck brakes, hot journal boxes etc... we didn't have many
detectors like today to find problems it was done by visually
monitoring the train from the head end & caboose. Back then we were
running 190-200 cars so one walked back from the head end the other
walked up from the rear met in the middle then walked backed checking
the other side. Most times we didn't have radios, everything was done
by hand signals using fusees, yellow for giving signals red always
meant stop. The list goes on of railroading that's gone that was an
art form to accomplish. The only hand signal I saw when I left was the
"thumb" which was the conductor that I was looking at pressing the
radio mic key with his thumb. It's like an old country song "We've
forgotten more about railroading then you'll ever know". Good for
y'all that it's changed. It was tough back then. Glad locomotives
have heat & AC, seeing most times we fried during the summer heat then
we froze onboard during winter only having a sidewall heater working.
That the brakes on cars are 250% better than the old AB & ABD brakes we
worked with. That defect detectors let the conductor know which axle so
they don't have to walk the entire train etc...

Name: LC
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2018

Ozzy  
If a TM acctually did order everyone to blow their horn as you stated
then you as well as all other engineers should report him to the ethics
committee. Unnecessary use of the horn is an operating rules violation
as well as unethical. Forcing someone to use company equipment in
violation of the rules for a personal agenda as well as personal views
should be reported immediately. Does this TM have a name? Why wouldn't
you post it. He should not be in management.

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 January 2018

I will have everyone conducting the hearing and the hr lady on the phone
listed as defendants.  I've already spoke with an attorney. He works on
a contingency he took my case. I asked him if I had a good chance of
winning.  He said he wouldn't represent me if he didn't think I
already have since he only gets paid if I settle. I haven't been to my
hearing yet but it's too late. CSX will be receiving my complaint.

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 January 2018

http://www.hrmorning.com/hr-managers-personally-liable-fmla-violation/


Yea they can

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 January 2018

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/lawyer_referral/resources/attorney_referral_system.html


Dol approved Fmla lawyers

Name: 
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 January 2018

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx

Name: kpasa
E-mail: 1-*($#
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 January 2018

how far are they cut back in buffalo what is the lowest senoirty date
for engineers and brakemen  ,are threre any long pools to wilard and
collinwood  any ward jobs left ??

Name: Mcfluffle Berry Jenkins
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Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 January 2018

Blowing your horn at 1600 for some dipshit? Sounds like a 4 foot 3 inch
chump named Steve came up with that bull. If I'm wrong let me know.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 January 2018

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/csx-investigation-initiated-former-louisiana-035000611.html

Name: Ozzy
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Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 January 2018

We were told today at 1530 by a trainmaster that today at 1600 we were
to sound our horn at 1600 in remembrance of ole HH, well we didnt make
it out to our power till 1630, i geuss the charge letter will be in the
mail, did anyone else get told this?  This is 100% a true story

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 January 2018

I did thirty five years as carman for cp it was great I loved my job.
Then came hunter did four years working for him. We all hated it the
man power was thinned  out stress was high,people where always worried
about getting fired and took attention from thinking about safety. As a
matter of fact there where more fatalities and injuries under Hh watch
than before he came. I retired and donít blame people for quitting the
railroad..Stress kills more than one way.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 January 2018

Hey New guy;  part of my previous post as written: ... "could ever
possibly be"....  Safety First.  Take care.

Name: Lol
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 January 2018

Their legal team is going to be spread thin.lol 

Customers
Fmla
Stb
Insider info

Name: 
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Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 January 2018

https://www.thestreet.com/quote/CSX.html


CSX under investigation.  I hope someone goes to prison

Name: New guy
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 January 2018

Re read your post idiot. I think what you meant to say is, the only
THING they are better at. Moron!

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 January 2018

The only way today's Conductors could ever possibly be better than the
Conductors of yesteryear would be:  handling modern electronic devices.
That's it.  Safety First.

Name: Continued
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 January 2018

Has it better. I've seen more people quit the railroad now than ever
before. Quitting the railroad use to be unheard of. What does that tell
you?

Name: New guy
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 January 2018

Im new to the railroad, been here about 6 years. When I started in 2012
we had a lot of 6 hour days, extra tickets, thanks awards, boots paid
for, many deadheads and turns, deadheads for rest, much longer lunch
breaks, starts an hour after the on duty time, they bought lunch
frequently, the list goes on. During this time a lot of
"old heads" then complained about how bad it had gotten. Now 6 years
later it is worse. So if you were complaining 6 years ago about how bad
it had gotten then, well it is obvious that you had it made compared to
today's railroaded. It has gotten worse there is no doubt about it, so
quit acting like anyone with less than 10

Name: Billylove
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 January 2018

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx


File a complaint  all out of service employees

Name: Hugh Jorgan
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 January 2018

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 January 2018

It's funny hearing these old heads preach.  They had four men on
their
crew.  They would never make it today.

------------------------------------------------------------------
   Well said...who is this ahole rr(rump ranger) jim?  It is a totally
different railroad than even a year ago, and damn sure different than
when there were 4 or 5 people on one job.  The company used to answer
to labor, but nowadays they answer to the shareholders (to hell with
labor).  He's obviously another one of them keyboard jockeys that
would not make it in today's railroad atmosphere.  Nowadays, one man
is doing it all. The assholes (old-heads of yesteryear) talk all that
crap, but u can bet they couldn't hold a candle to today's
conductors.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 January 2018

What's funny is seeing & reading the previous post. Is doubtful at best
if the person that posted that has the 1st clue about what it was like
in earlier times.   Probably just another person that a decent profit
would be made if you could buy 'em for what they're worth and then
sell 'em for what they think they're worth.
Safety First.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 January 2018

It's funny hearing these old heads preach.  They had four men on their
crew.  They would never make it today.

Name: RRJim
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 January 2018

Civilian

Looks like I hit a nerve. lol. Calm down little buddy. I didn't say
all out there I said some working out there today. We had more than one
new hire get in their vehicle and quit on the job when we had to go work
in the rain, snow, sleet etc... Recently I've read more than one person
on here complaining how mean CSX is for making them work because it's
cold outside. lol. All the railroads are structured like the military.
Sounds like you're a yard guy. I worked the road 34 years out of 36.
So, in that regards "what the hell is taking lunch?". lol. Seeing I
upset you maybe you can call your Mommy to make you feel special cause
you definitely act like a little kid.

Name: Fred
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 January 2018

I'm looking at the layoff board.   Doesn't appear to have slowed down
fm Mark offs.  After this is over still will be men laying off fm. 
Outcome waste of fucking time.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 January 2018

I retired last year,and the thirty five years on the RR went by in a
blink of an eye.Worked all shifts in all kinds of weather put up with
all the crap. Divorces etc now get checks in the mail. At the end of
the day the pay was always in the bank,and made a good wage,where a
person could hold there head up and have a decent life style. And at
the end of the day we are not over worked compared to the private
sector and half the pay. Sometimes you have to take time and look at
the positive side of being a railroader.

Name: Civilian 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 January 2018

RRJIM 


You know what u can do with that post. I wasnt a damn jar head or grunt
or what ever you were but I know my union rights. I know what I'm
entitled to in pay and work conditions. Screw your military mentality.
That's just what this fake military mentality management wants. Screw 
telling we no lunch break got no time for your rights. Screw you
conductor and your sgreement. Go suck our ass and put in your claim. 
We fought hard for better treatment and all we got so far is a pansy
ass union and union hating msnagement. This ain't the military. If it
was be would be carrying rifles and getting out pay checks like we
should. Man I don't even want to finish with you ass.You ain't worth
it.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 January 2018

Fiddler

Good post. Railroad runs like the military even though it's a private
corporation. They use military time, they tell you when to report to
duty, it's heavy on rules & regulations, you are required to work in
any situation etc... That's why it worked for me after getting out of
the military having gone to Vietnam. It's strict structure was a good
fit. Big difference is railroaders make darn good money. The Veterans
who were hiring out the years before I retired made damn good
railroaders. I never heard one of them say when it was time to get the
job done "it's cold outside" "you can't be serious it's raining"
etc.... they didn't complain if they were called out to work a holiday.
They know it's part of the job. You can tell with some on here who has
never served their country. CSX spoiled some because for a short span
they did shut down on July 4th, Christmas, Thanksgiving and a few more.
It wasn't always like that a lot of us worked all those holidays for
decades. All one could hope for was the freight pool was near the
bottom. This FMLA stuff didn't happen when I was out there only a
small handful of people had it. Not bringing up politics but that had
to happen under Obama because under other presidents things weren't so
liberal. Most likely under this president it'll change back.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 January 2018

"many trainmaster(s),  850 employees,  130........"
Where does this stuff come from?  Would be sweet if real true facts and
figures were posted. "I heard" and "I thought" doesn't cut it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 January 2018

Heard there would be many trainmaster leaving after bonus is paid out.

Name: Change jobs
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 January 2018

Csx.com log in and search jobs, they are hiring a lot of people now in a
lot of places. The is a need for 58 new trainmasters on there, mow,
signals, etc.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 January 2018

You have to take into consideration that the company is going to make it
as difficult for most to get there fmla.Because if they made it easy and
approved this in a timely manner donít you think that it would be
abused. The way they do it now is make it almost a deterant to apply
for it.

Name: Willie B
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 January 2018

If 850 employees used Fmla over the holidays and only 130 got pulled out
of service that ain't good for the 130 employees. What this means is
csx will say they only pulled 1 out of 7 Fmla users out over this so it
wasn't a target on anyone using Fmla at this time. They chose 130 out
of 850 based on something more. If csx pulled all users out then there
might be a case but I'd bet most of the 130 are screwed.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 January 2018

C'mon, can't expect any high(er) level company officials or full-time
union officers (& their staffs) to be on duty weekends or holidays.
Why, that would be beneath them.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 January 2018

I, for one, have never received a single letter concerning my FMLA
usage, but was removed from service 1/3/18, with an investigation date
of 1/10/18 for "misuse of FMLA between 12/22 to 12/26."

Interesting note: the two days I marked off FMLA, 1400hrs 12/24 to
1800hrs 12/25, had been showing as "pending approval" on the MyLeave
FMLA website for the last several days. I got a note from my doctor
stating that any leave I took between 12/22 and 12/26 was for my
personal serious illness as per my FMLA intermittent leave, the note
was emailed to my local chairman, passed to the general chairman's
office, and further passed to labor relations. As of this morning, the
dates I took off FMLA leave are now showing as "approved" on the
MyLeave website.

Of course nothing can be done on the weekends...
Not like anyone who can actually make a decision works weekends!

Hopefully Monday I'll be marked back up, then comes the fun part of
trying to get paid for the time I was out of service.

Name: XGC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 January 2018

Out of service Employees


LISTEN UP AND LISTEN GOOD. DO NOT GET YOUR OWN LAWYER! Absolutely do
not!  The best thing you can do now is to start making contact with
everyone who was pulled out of service . Start making calls. Start
running rosters on every division , subdivision as you can. You need to
pool your money and find the best lawyer in the country that handles
FMLA and federal laws and take this on as a class action law suit as a
group.  Rumor is there were 130 employees who were pulled out of
service for mark off of FMLA on the Christmas holiday. This is a HUGH
AMOUNT TO STAND IN FRONT OF A JUDGE. Now is the time to act as a
group.

 Second here, this is now the opportunity to address the attendance
policy and the blatant violation of the union agreement that states the
company will keep enough employees hired to make sure the caps can be
met and people can take time off. Personal day, vacation days, daily
vacation days, personal business, demand days and sick if need be to go
to the doctors. The number one biggest violation in this attendance
policy is the fact that you can still be given points if you show a
valid doctor slip. THERE SHOULD BE NO POINTS ACCESSED TO ANYONE WHO CAN
SHOW A VALID DOCTORS SLIP FOR THEIR VISIT. Caps are being reduced
because the company furloughed and ran off so many people that they
cant keep the boards full enough to let people off as agreed by the
union agreements.
The unions are going to do nothing for you. They sold all of you out
when they refused to fight the availability policy. Call your GC office
and ask them if they are still fighting the policy. They will laugh at
you or hang up. They will not have the guts to tell you NO! NO! NO!.
The company created this entire situation. This has snowballed because
the mind set in the business now with all employees is if you cant get
days off any more and they keep the caps reduced because they created
man power shortages and the unions wont do a damn thing to stop it then
GET FMLA!  Everyone knows this is true. You know you have heard it a
million times from your fellow employees.  GET FMLA!  If the group of
employees stand together as a whole and file a class action law suit
they can also voice their opinions as to why so many people are trying
to get FMLA! Your unions will not step in until you start an uproar and
draw attention to it. They will have no choice if the members start
talking loud and hard. You have every right to speak to the press. You
have every right to jump on board with your fellow employees who have
been pulled out of service. Now is the time to step up and see what you
can do to help them and yourselves with this policy!!! The can of worms
has been opened. Use it to your advantage. Draw attention to the
attendance policy and the abuse of  union agreement days off. If you
ever needed to stand together on this issue it is now.  Do not lose
this opportunity. You may never get it again!

Name: Former Foamer
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Employed as: Yard Master, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

Osborn Yard needs a new superintendent A.S.A.P. 
It's bananas out here!

Name: House
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 January 2018

Fiddler


Ok Jr. Thanks for the post

Name: Fiddler
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 January 2018

If you think it's so rough and unfair then go join the military. You
sound like a bunch of cry baby sissies! Go to work, earn your check and
go home it ain't that bad. You sound like a bunch of girl scouts at a
Justin Beiber concert crying because he didn't sing your favorite
song.

Name: Brewer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/fmla/13.aspx

Name: Notonfmla
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

The laws of the land protect illegals.criminals,terrorist animals all
sorts of religions any thing you can fathom.   There are people who
will go nuts for those mistreated.    There are even laws for working
class tax payers that have a medical condition or taking care of a
loved one.   It's very difficult near impossible  for a large
corporation to trample over a large group of people just doing the best
they can do.   The burden is on the corporation to show fault.  Laying
off on a holiday under your protected leave doesn't warrant
termination.

Name: Imsure
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 January 2018

HR


We don't doubt that for 1 second.  CSX lawyers have warned them what
they can and cannot do.  CSX doesn't give a damn about the law this is
all about arrogance.  CSX thinks they are above the law.   We know CSX
has paid lawyers. That's good because they're going to need them in
every state east of the Mississippi.  CSX previously  screwed 1200
managers. Currently screwing their customers. Now they think they can
screw the T&E.  You can count on us having "Our ducks in a row" 
New York will come down on CSX like a hammer. This is blatant
retaliation over their new paid time leave. That's how it will be
perceived anyway. Last I checked if CSX is silly enough to let any of
these countless suits make it to court.  A group of our peers decide
the outcome not some paid arbitrator.

Read up on FMLA the federal law leans strongly for the employee.  Ward
was wise enough not to cross the line in the sand.  The countless
lawsuits won't be just against CSX there will be individuals also
named as defendants.

Name: Hr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

FMLA ABUSERS 

If you think for one moment that corporate officials have not already
consulted with their legal teams and federal agencies before they made
this move then you are either blind or ignorant. They aren't stupid.
The company has millions to spend on legal advise and procedure. If you
don't have your ducks in a row good luck. There are alot of arm chair
lawyers on this site right now. That's going to get someone in serious
trouble.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

STOP RELYING ON YOUR UNION REPS TO MAKE THE DECISIONS.   WE ARE THE
UNION, ITS TIME TO LAY DOWN OR STRIKE!   TRUST ME WHEN EVERYONE LAYS
DOWN, THE COMPANY RUNS TO YOUR TOP UNION OFFICIALS BEGGING FOR HELP.  
DO IT!

Name: Crackhead Mcgee
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 January 2018

If you can't do why even? I can't think about why it would work if it
does. What are the times now? How can you do if it don't work? Why?
Can someone explain it to me? We can't choose when. So I don't know
what to think. How does it work to be at?

Name: Leave of absence
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

Someone had a question about Leave of absence, if your terminal has
people in your craft furloughed then you shall be granted a leave of
absence. If you need to take time to go to school, try a new job for a
while to see if you like it, take care of personal matters, etc. then
you put a request in for a leave of absence and you will get it if
there are people furloughed at your location. If it is denied then turn
it over to your Local Chairman and they will handle it from there.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 January 2018

Pattern markoffs don't mean someone is abusing FMLA. Ever heard of
weekly treatments or weekly appointments? Some people get iv infusions,
blood transfusions, chemotherapy, and do you know when the best time is
to get these things done? The weekend, sometimes holidays. These are
the times when those places aren't as busy so the person with whatever
medical condition doesn't have to spend an entire day at the hospital.
Educate yourself before you try to ruin people's lives to get another
notch on your trainmaster boyscout belt.

Name: Red
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

Whine

That's right it will all be sorted out.  The ones who are legit and
have been pulled out have more owed to them than a weeks back pay.  
I'm not saying it's right but the others have a lawsuit also.  There
will be fines and lawsuits over this.  There are lawyers already making
contacts ambulance chasers but they will sue CSX.  CSX knows if it goes
to court they lose.  

Next week the ones who laid off over New Years will be removed from
service.

Name: Lol
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

Spoken from a true company mole... Low grade supervisor.. Trainmaster 


Name: Whine
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 January 2018

Whine all you want, if you have Fmla and used it over the holiday and
are now being investigated then time will tell. Your history of Fmla
use will be looked at and if there is a pattern you will be dealt with
if there is no pattern you will be fine. You know if you abuse the
program or not so I suggest that if you are one that abuses it start
looking for work elsewhere.

Name: Whine
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 January 2018

Whine all you want, if you have Fmla and used it over the holiday and
are now being investigated then time will tell. Your history of Fmla
use will be looked at and if there is a pattern you will be dealt with
if there is no pattern you will be fine. You know if you abuse the
program or not so I suggest that if you are one that abuses it start
looking for work elsewhere.

Name: SeeeDeeee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

Charlie Handprick,Dyke Hawes,

Cannot be trusted!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 January 2018

Awesome I'm sure there are more just like you.

I went to my doc on my Thursday off day. I had to mark off over
Christmas weekend .  Saw my doc the day after Christmas. Now I'm out
of service.   I had well over 400 qualifying days in 2017.  This
company does suck.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

16yr veteran employee, have had FMLA since 2015, diagnosed arthritis in
lower back which causes excruciating pain, plus sciatic nerve pain down
my left leg. Triggers are sitting for long periods of time. Stretching
exercises learned from physical therapy help a ton, but almost
impossible to do correctly while on a train. Plus 800mg Ibuprofen.

Removed from service January 2nd for taking two days FMLA leave between
12/22 and 12/26, well within my FMLA paperwork of three days per week.
Letter from my doctor explaining any time off between the days on the
charge letter were for FMLA purposes due to personal serious illness.
Letter sent to General Chairmans office, passed to Labor Relations, yet
still having my investigation next Monday.

I also have a voice recording from a conversation with the Director of
Wage and Labor division, specifying that holiday use of FMLA does not
qualify as abuse.

This is going to turn out real interesting.

Advice from my Local Chairman is I'll be reinstated with back pay, but
it might be better financially in the long run to be terminated.
Financially, I'm fine, and really wouldn't mind a year or two off.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 January 2018

I keep reading how some really need it.   Everyone on FMLA REALLY needs
it. There is no way a medical professional would risk their licensure
over some idiot just wanting a day off.   Is there some who use it for
other reasons? Possible but most do not and who are you to judge your
fellow employee. 

If you laid off Union business, took displacement. Waited to tie
up,bumped a Jr man for his off day, ran slow, etc.etc.  SHUT your DICK
HOLSTEr

Name: BrOwNHoRnEt
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

There needs to be an investigation in CSX.  Who would pay someone 300
million dollars when everyone knew that person would be taking a
medical leave.  I didn't think "key employees" were allowed any sort
of medical leave.     

I bet there were no substantial difference of layoffs over the holidays
verses any other given day.   New York requiring 8 weeks of company paid
leave Jan 1st is suspect to why CSX would choose now to to pull this.  

I love my job and union co- workers but I think this company keeps
going down hill.

I hope everyone out of service sues CSX the HR directors, managers and
who ever else that can be placed  on the lawsuit.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 January 2018

Lloyd

That post was dead on accurate.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

Got some company suck asses on here.  Every time they come out with a
new attendance policy they make shit worse.  I blame the company for
the problem.  Hell before we got the bid system we would have 30 - 50
people displaced at any given time and now we have a few people marked
of fmla and we see it still ain't good enough for these fools that you
can only reach m-f 8am - 4pm with an hour lunch break.  Maybe they
should try something new like holiday pay for road guys or time and
half for weekends.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2018

You idiots just dont get it do you?  People have fmla for hundreds of
reasons but take a wild guess on why it is abused?  Because these
railroads abuse the fuck out of their employees thats why.  You're the
same twats that tell everyone to quit if they dont like it and take
calls whenever you can for the company arent you?  Probably the same
people who work all the time and then bitch because their house payment
is so damn high and have to live out here.  Just save your shit.  The
guys who want to chastise all the ones laying off are the problem out
here.  You all would make great management.  People do abuse fmla but
get off your high horse.  The only reward you get for showing up all
the time is more money in your own damn pocket anyway.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 January 2018

Nice post conductor Hawes

Name: MOO$E 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 January 2018

I say recalculate seniority Jan 1st every year. So basically add up each
day you have actually worked since you started and that is your
seniority order. Check it out, if a dude started a month sooner than
you he will always have seniority on you even if after 5 years you
actually worked 200 days more than him because he marks off all the
time. Do it this way and see how many people mark off all the time, do
it this way and see who will sink and who can swim. If you started a
year before me but I worked more days in my career than you than I have
more experience than you right?

Name: Re-railer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 January 2018

Yo dog, any yall complaining talking bout the company after you and they
targeting you, well you have done something to get yourself in a messed
up situation. Yall really think for no reason at all the managers just
don't like you and would like to see you go? come on for real? You are
judged by either the way you look or the way you act, shame on anyone
for judging someone on the way they look that ain't right, but the way
you act is how most people will judge you and that's how it should be
right? if you act like a fool then you should be treated like a fool,
so don't act like a fool and then try to say your being targeted by
such and such forno reason, if you being trgeted the chances are you
did something to deserve it. Yeah there might be a rare case of this
managers wife cheated with a dude named greg and he just don't like
anyone named greg and yo name greg so he don't like you but that aint
what this about greg.

Name: Stop Complaining Do Your Job
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 January 2018

2L2Q I am with you 100% lazy asses (FMLA) abusers they play the system
pick their days off and the trains they want I hope they fire them all.
They think of only them selves and noone else if it is anything like our
terminal only do it on the weekends and holidays....I am guessing all
the people saying get an attorney are FMLA (Friday tru Monday leave
act).. pukes

Name: 2LTQ
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 04 January 2018

http://wnyt.com/news/csx-employees-job-loss-sick-leave-protest/4730395/

If you are being fired for FMLA use over the holiday season HA HA LOL!

Unless you have FMLA for a legitimate reason and were using it
legitimately, then no HA HA LOL 

There are too many of you that have FMLA and use it to have time off
whenever you want. The rest of us at CSX don't get to just call and
mark off any time we want. It sucks, but we have to work when we have
to work even if it's Christmas! You are so inconsiderate that you will
falsely use FMLA on holidays when it could mean another crew will have
to stay 12 hours vs their normal 8 because of you.

You shouldn't even be able to hold a regular job if you have FMLA, you
should only be allowed on an extra board!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 January 2018

So are all the people that got fired for using fmla during the holidays
in states where the leave is paid?

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 January 2018

L&N
So youre retired too? The pole line wire was steel with a copper
coating, basically worthless. I use to have to jump thru hoops to get
wire to the field and people to put wire back. It wasn't the cost of
wire but having inventory costs go up for keeping wire in stock for
emergency protection and delays in train movement. This came out of
share holders pocket so we eleminated the wire and the code was put on
the track, now microwave. To do this Scheerer threw employee safety out
the window. Scheerer came from Harmon Ind. and was not a railroader.
I worked very hard for this railroad and sure you did too. So do we all
let it all go down the tubes?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 January 2018

I sued the railway in Canada as employee,cost me $35000.00 I won my case
so cp ended up paying most of my legal bill. Now if I would of lost it
would of cost me my fees and there fees!!!! So if lawyer takes your
case for free pretty good deal!

Name: Almostthere
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 January 2018

If a lawyer only gets paid if you win.    What do you have to lose?  
I'd encourage all these guys out of service to call a lawyer.  From
everything I'm reading on Fmla you all have a solid case.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 January 2018

up to the present you can attempt to sue the RR, generally without
support from your union, for various violations of federal law, but I
have RARELY seen targeting a low level official and attaching personal
liability. Typically a medium level boss will "target" a craft
employee, and trainmaster's, etc. will be super eager to do the hit,
and protect their mediocre career. If they were personally liable, and
would carry the stigma of a law suit to their non RR job, they might
decline the crookedness involved. AND, the RR in JAX may end up paying
for "hits" they didn't sanction, that were performed for personal
reasons at no cost to the lower managers that actually "spent" the
companies assets. The recent "resignation" of an Avon yardmaster
after YEARS of protected sexual harassment is a good example, (he is an
EMT now) as are many Avon higher officials over the years. EHH at least
fired some of them - usually after they got promoted, often multiple
times - right Dave?. The best possible RR supervisor, IMHO, is a
RETIRED military E-8/9, with a pension, who knows how leadership is
supposed to be, and is financially secure. CSX did have a retired USNA
grad, a "nuc", get fired from Georgia (M of W)over refusing to cover
up safety stats,and he sued and won. A rare situation, though.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 January 2018

If the company wants to target someone and fire them.   That just adds
another zero on a settlement and another low life manager to sue.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 January 2018

HUMAN RESOURCES  get some!

https://www.stephaniehahn.com/blog/2017/07/employees-may-sue-hr-directors-for-fmla-violations.shtml

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 January 2018

https://www.stephaniehahn.com/blog/2017/07/employees-may-sue-hr-directors-for-fmla-violations.shtml

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 January 2018

http://www.hrmorning.com/yes-managers-can-be-personally-liable-for-fmla-violations/


Lower managers you think CSX will have your back?  But I was just doing
what I was told to do doesn't excuse you.

Name: L&N dispr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 January 2018

Dave, I know too well about the code line.. About 1993 you could count
on once a month on the Chattanooga sub going down at 0300.  The road
ran next to the ML, they would tie it around the bumper of a truck and
run for 8 miles to get the copper wire... That was always a fun night. 
Worked with Bill Mabe just a few times when working the ACD.. Bill
Sheera was very smart guy but did not know the difference Between a
clear signal from a medium approach or absolute from a permissive...
Worked with Nicely's two kids, Troy and Angie.  Both were eager to
learn but had daddy to sponsor them.  Think Angie finally made Div
Supt, don't know about Troy.  I am retired now, so I have been out of
the loop...and to be honest, don't give a rat's azz anymore... Still
have numerous friends still working so I keep up with what is going on.
 Have to watch that 401k...

Name: Dickweed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 January 2018

Turnyourphoneoff

You sound like you have a 9th grade education. You also sound like the
type that thinks because you have been here longer, you are better.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 January 2018

Looking over the TA for the Carmen and Iím quite embarrassed that our
union took 3 years to negotiate this. You literally took 3 years to
accomplish nothing but a petty raise thatíll get swallowed up by
increased union dues. Scardelletti will get hundreds of thousands of
dollars in bonuses when this contract is ratified. While us workers
will get a swift kick in the nuts. I love how their number 1 selling
point of this TA is retroactive pay-on average over $3000. Give me a
break, what a joke. Number two is increased wages over the contract
period-on average over $20,000. I donít know who does their math but a
compounded wage increase of 13.1% over the five year contract period
does not add up to $20,000. Ok Iím done now, bye

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 January 2018

Re turn your phone off
As usual there is a mole trying to discredit those trying to exercise
their rights or discredit. Bottom line: anyone who has been damaged has
the right to sue for compensation.

Name: turnyourphoneoff
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 January 2018

fmla


Blah blah blah

Your actions and comments are making a hostile work environment. System
notice had a hand it that too.  That in itself is a direct violation of
fmla.  How about that one person who needs it and uses it and now he
has to deal with assholes like you.   1 or  12 men layoff regular
doesn't make anyone work more or less.  If or when the carrier finds x
amount of men who live on the rails.  There will be massive layoffs. 
All you fucks who have been out here less than 10 years better hope the
more senior man doesn't  start living on the rails  or you can  kiss
your ass goodbye.  For the dumbass who believes someone has lost their
job because of laying off over Christmas/New Year.  You best put the
crack pipe down.

Turn your phone off and put the cigarette out new guy.

Name: FMLA
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 January 2018

For those of you that have FMLA and abuse the program, you know who you
are and so does everyone else. There are plenty of people furloughed
right now that would love to be working and you are too lazy to work a
full week at a time, how pathetic! There are those that have FMLA and
really do need it and only use it when they actually need it. If you
abuse FMLA I hope you are terminated and I promise you won't be missed
one bit by anyone. All you do is make it harder on everyone else around
you. Typically the ones that abuse FMLA are also the ones that are piss
poor employees anyways that your co-workers have to carry you lazy ass
all day.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 January 2018

You employees have CSX hands down.Make CSX pay this is the wayHh
intimidated us in Canada. We put grievances in and Hh had to pay. Make
them pay!!!

Name: Sick
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 January 2018

Examples of prohibited conduct include:
1Refusing to authorize FMLA leave for an eligible employee,
2Discouraging an employee from using FMLA leave,
3Manipulating an employeeís work hours to avoid responsibilities under
the FMLA,
4Using an employeeís request for or use of FMLA leave as a negative
factor in employment actions, such as hiring, promotions, or
disciplinary actions, or,
5Counting FMLA leave under ďno faultĒ attendance policies


2 has been violated with With the new system notice and the removing of
employees from service for Layoffs over the holidays.

5 has been violated with the caps attendance  policy


Those pulled out of service may be entitled to thousands of dollars in
damages.
I spoke with an attorney today out of Orlanda sounded very promising
and he only gets paid if Iwin my suit. 

He said it's too late to apologize.  That a hostile work environment
is the result of the company's unilateral move. Which is also a
violation.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 January 2018

L&N
Pole Lines
Can you imagine the cost of maintaining pole lines and revenue lost due
to delays when a pole stops trains?
Now consider this. People invest in CSX (share holders) and expect a
return as the company grows or do things to increase their profits.
This is primarily what Harrison was doing. The Asians have been given
our businesses by government and share holders.
This left Harrison with the option of doing things differently to
increase profits for share holders. Getting rid of CSX fat,closing
yards and getting rid of people is one sure way to increase profits for
share holders. But who knows how to turn CSX back to slavery to increase
th profits? Enter Harrison and starts changing CSX. This is not a new
strategy used by those who are share holders. Harrison expires so will
the new CEO follow the same strategies as Harrison? If he doesn't The
share holders will fire him.
So it is the share holders that are the route problem
Make sense? Pole Lines were a tremendous cost to share holders so Bill
Scheerer, Jim Maybe, C.J Nicely, Earl Currie , Hugh Hopkins eleminated
the pole lines which spread nation wide costing train crewmen their
safety. You're a Dispatcher and should be knowledgeable of false or
dark Signals causing this. Don't trust the Signals!!!!!! Hopefully
this helps in understanding.

Name: Lawyerup
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 January 2018

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/lawyer_referral/resources/attorney_referral_system.
htm 


The above is dept. of labor approved Fmla attorneys.   Contact one as
soon as your pulled out of service due to a mark off.  Don't let them
get away with this. Also the Union needs to step up.  This is an
outrage.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 January 2018

Anyone seen any signs of retroactive pay yet?

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 January 2018

L&N Dospatcher
Good post that's what I'm talking about. Let me know and I'll try to
help.
The pole line cost a railroad big bucks each year. People steel miles
of wire for srap. Storms and trees break pole lines, etc.. Each time
this happens you stop trains, especially Amtrak. Our Chief Engineer (
Bill Scheerer) had the signal put on the rail to improve cost and
efficiency. Nothing wrong with that, but the process he used is
completely illegal while the FRA, NTSB and USDOT retaliates against me
refusing my information in meetings and corrupting the Department Of
Justice Judicial Branch.
The new system is in use today endangering train crews and public.
What can train crews do? Be aware and don't depend on the Signals
totally they no longer work under fail safe. 
The message I have from CSX Signals to train crews is "We can no
longer protect you."

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 January 2018

Loco
That's all I'm asking is to post areas where problems exist and I'll
try to explain where the company is screwing over train crews and
public. This helps others to understand the dangers and can protect
themselves until a fix can be made. As for right now government
protects railroads for economic reasons and natiional interest. 
Unions are reactive not proactive in protecting you.
Now: you mentioned seeing one Signal crew in one year. Many of my guys
budgets to make repairs were the size of a household budget. Like three
thousand a month to cover huge territories. When I checked into it my
superiors were bid rigging and forcing the computer to use favorite
vendors, bypassing the fair bid process. This overcharged budgets so
much maintenance of the Signals fell apart. I reported to Auditing and
pulled an audit showing tens of millions taken that should have been
used to maintain Signals.
Earl Currie (VP Engineering) ripped me from one end to the other. 
Assistant Chief Engineer of Signals ( Hugh Hopkins) had me escorted to
the door on Water St.. He took my badge run copies of it and posted the
mug shots all over the system, listing me as extremely dangerous, shoot
on sight.  Bill Scheere (Chief Engineer Signals) had me Black Listed.
Protecting train crews and public is my job. Many others are involved 
but CSX left me no options accept to fight.

Name: L&N dispr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 January 2018

Dave, I know it has been awhile since you worked in the signal dept. 
There are not any poles for the code line anymore, it is now down by
microwave.

Name: LOCO
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 January 2018

Corp 30


Again as I said , hats off to you for your effort to protect the crews
and expose the corrupt csx organization. Is sounds as if you are
passionate about your line of work. You would be an asset to any
electrical union especially IBEW. Do yourself a favor and get out of
the RR if you can. There are better and more respectable places to work
than here. If you have too many years and seniority and its not worth
giving it up, then maybe the last year you are hear you can go out with
a bang! In the meantime all any of us can do out on the rails is just
report when the signals malfunction or deal with the shunting and
banner testing which is authorized by the FRA. Only once this year have
I encountered a signal crew working on sigs and they didn't clear it
with the dispatcher. It was a good thing I knew something was up ahead
of time and heard a high railer talking to one of them on the radio. We
hated to tone the dispatch up and report the sig dropping in front of us
but had no choice. Needless to say they got an ass ripping from dispatch
but they worked it out. Everyone makes mistakes. Not everyone is lucky
enough to have a heads up. That's why we stay on our toes and don't
screw around with our lives or anyone else's. We got enough crap to
deal with.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 January 2018

Loco
We're both posting. My posts are 100 percent to help crews on safety.
I represent the CSX Signal Department against corporate theives who
sold your safety. It is my responsibility to make sure the circuits
pumping on you never enters the property. 
We work in different crafts and have a bit a problem understanding
another craft in detail. You can't help me except to understand what I
say is unsafe and pass it along.
I'll fight with the big guys you'll never meet. My explaining things
are helpful when you guys help. Ex: you mention Signals pumping. I tell
you it's illegal and puts you guys in danger. 
The signal you are talking about is an Epic or Electro-Code. Most of
the problem comes from taking the signal code from a poline which is
insolated from interference and putting the coded signal on bare
tracks, laying on the ground . In the area you are talking about-----
does it have poline or signal code on the tracks? See, we work for the
same railroad!!!

Name: Lc
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 January 2018

you think your employer has violated the FMLA, you should schedule a
consultation with an experienced lawyer. A lawyer can review your
situation, identify any legal problems in the way your employer treated
you, and help you decide what to do next. For example, you might want
the lawyer to coach you on how to talk to your manager, to write a
letter to your employer on your behalf, or even to file a lawsuit in
court. Many employment lawyers charge you only if you win your claim,
so you may not need to pay a lawyer up front.

Name: Mr Ed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 January 2018

Anyone laid off FM over the holidays are being pulled out of service.  
Contact the Dept. of Labor immediately.   

Filing a Complaint with the Secretary of Labor

A complaint may be filed in person, by mail or by telephone with the
Wage and Hour Division, U.S. Department of Labor. A complaint may be
filed at any local office of the Wage and Hour Division.
The complaint should be filed within a reasonable time of when the
employee discovers that his or her FMLA rights have been violated.
Filing a Private Lawsuit

An employee also has the right to file a private lawsuit under the FMLA
in any Federal or state court of competent jurisdiction. The FMLA is
subject to a statute of limitations. This means that, generally, suit
must be filed within two years after the last action that the employee
believes was in violation of the FMLA, or three years if the violation
was willful. (It is up to the court to rule whether the alleged
violation occurred and, if so, whether it was willful.) A state
employee's right to private action may be limited.

Name: loco
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 January 2018

Ape

Quite aware of CFR49 Parts 200-299. Have obtained every new reissue for
the last 10 years. I know where you are coming from. What isn't
acceptable is blaming the crews for crossing deaths and derailments.
Thats bullshit! One of the imposter pines tactics. As for safety for
the crews, hats off to you if your trying to change the whole system.
The real pines tried it for ever and got no where except jail. We have
rules in place that address this issue on the sigs. I personally just
had one pumping a few days ago and did as any seasoned engineer with a
brain in head does. Stop, tone up the dispatch and take the sig as most
restrictive looking out.  You seem to be a little more mature than the
goating fake pines. good luck to. We aren't holding our breaths.
Follow our rules of the road and spend our time fighting the hell we
are being put through. We'll leave the political crash for you. Don't
forget, the FRA laws cover everything we are fighting to get changed
which is a hell of a lot more than just bad sigs and crossings.

Name: Retired Now
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 January 2018

Was in my 27th year when the csx nap rule & it's stipulations came out.
 Prior to then - get caught sleeping & charges pressed = out of
service.

Wonder how many of the pups that post on this site ever worked out in
the field in this type of weather we're experiencing now & climbed
on/into an old EMD GP-7 or even older/worse locomotive that had
piss-poor blower heat that may or may not have provided much, if any,
warmth. (Most Cabooses were not much better either - especially later,
when those things were on the chopping block.)   

Saw plenty of signal "pumping" out on the road over the yrs.
Normally/usually, a signal maintainer would get that fixed.

Is a PITA - people in warm, dry, well lit offices barking orders at
others who are out in the field. Very true, some come from the T&E
ranks & they can be among the worst to have to deal with.

Safety First in this cold, harsh weather: Dress warm. Carry extra
clothing. Maybe you'll want it - maybe you won't. Keep your breathing
passages covered. If have to dress \ look like the Michelin Man, so be
it. If you smoke, lay or back off.  Carry food (anymore, most do that
anyway), there's lots of stuff that is safe for a while - even if it
isn't the healthiest - don't have to consume it constantly. 

Lots of other workers have to deal with adverse weather conditions.

Good luck to all. Take care.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 January 2018

Loco
Of course I'm baiting you, it's the only way I can get you off Pines
or throwing some pity party, posting anything but issues that protect
the train crews. Do I need to know what you? Of course NOT!!!!!!
You done a good enough job to let me know you at least know a little. 
Now let me give you one small example of things you don't know and
couldn't. You mentioned Signals pumping in bad weather. This is
totally illegal the Signals are required under federal regulations to
operate on the fail safe principle. In other words they are not allowed
to pump putting train crews in danger. The equipment used causing the
pumping is being used as more of a frequency operated device which
allows interference from track conditions, lighting or even an old car
with a bad plug wire. In other words railroads are using the equipment
to save hundreds of millions each year, while putting train crews and
public in danger. Before you start one of your rants LISTEN for a
change. There are corporate people fighting every day to protect train
crews and are hammered on even to being threatened to be killed. Then
we have to try and sale safety to the ones they fight for.
Shunting a signalized track without taking authority is illegal.
Messing with any signal operation is illegal. I know you have a lot of
rules to read but read CFRs title 49 section 234. That's what we have
to know to save your lives. No we have no control over your hands being
cold or your toilet won't flush, but we do care and are confronted with
the same evils as everyone else.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 January 2018

I worked for Hh for four years.He was a sadist,and loved to punish
employees for anything as to control them more. We put in grievances
after grievances and we won 87 percent of them.And he refused to pay
for them but had no choice. This management that worked for him at CSX.
Better change there ways and throw the Hh rule book out.The back bone of
the railroad are the workers on the ground and they know it.This
management has upset employees ,the government ,customers and the
public.The management better start treating there people with respect
and as an asset to the well being of CSX.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 January 2018

A twenty minute nap can revive a person and make them more alert.The
union should take this up with the government.To put pressure on the
railroads,this is about public safety.And there is medical evidence
that a nap is healthy for an exhausted person.

Name: tech
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 January 2018

Ape

That's all fine and good if you don't have a camera on the other
units. Have already been told that all units will be down loaded when
they are checking for use of the cell phones. Remember, the random down
loads they are ordering.  And yes, they can down load foreign line
engines. Just get off and take a walk in below freezing weather. if
that doesn't wake you up nothing will. The company doesn't care.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 January 2018

If you have more than one unit on head end take turns have nap in
another unit

Name: throttle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 January 2018

loco/engineer

you wouldn't happen to be talking about avon yard would you?  Sitting
out at Pontiac road?  I got some info for you. Several of us heard a
few ym talking about how the road crews are taking their time coming in
on purpose just to screw them and slow down the yard.  Talking like its
a personal attack on them. Some of them are from the craft and they
know exactly what you are talking about and they know its bullshit to
try and rush a crew in after they have sat out of the yard for hours
with half the time you need to do the work safely. Its real sad that
they come from the craft and are union brothers but bad mouth the crews
and suck management now.
What's even a bigger joke is that they hold you out after you have
been on the road for 9-10 hours and all night long then expect you to
sit there and not be able to take turns taking a nap like we used to be
able to do. Got those camera's right in front of your face. Cant use
your phone to do anything to keep yourself alert. Want you to read the
company rules book and nothing else. Try reading that dribble for hours
on end after you are dog tired and up all night. I thought I would never
say this but I wish we still had Ward and they never let that piece of
crap HH come on board. There is no reason we cant take a nap as long as
the other crew member is awake and we are calling stopped every 15
minutes.  That guy was the devil himself. It's a serious safety issue.
Trying to stay awake while you sit in the same spot for hours after
being up for hours wears you out. Its stressful on the body. No reason
to not be able to take a nap.

Name: Engineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 January 2018

LOCO

AMEN BROTHER!!!  You said exactly what I have been thinking for weeks.
You burned the hell out of the pines character. He is definitely a copy
cat. There is no doubt you are an engineer. You got me with the comment
about the idiot x rfs delaying our trains them expecting us to do the
last minute photo finish. I couldn't count how many times I've had to
wait 2-3 hours  outside the yard to get in then the retards tell us to
come on in with only 45 minutes left to work and we have at least an
hours work. They even have had the balls to ask us to run the power to
the service area after we are outlawed. They don't want it sitting in
the middle of the yard waiting to find someone to move it. I even had a
TM tell me once that we were in they yard so HOS didn't matter and if
we stayed off the radio no one would know.   Just so you know we all
know what the hell you were talking about when you called it a license
instead of fra certification card. We all call it a license. I don't
know of any engineer that says he's carrying a certification card. It
isn't any different than a drivers license its just for a train.  You
weren't kidding about the eot either. Its becoming a real joke. I hope
your bringing your train down to 30 mph like you are supposed to. I do
every single time and make sure the disp. knows. Stick it to them and
make them recrew if they have to. Got to many engineers kissing their
asses and running it track speed anyway. It's not helping a thing
kissing their asses. 

Give it up imposter pines.  You got burned on this one. No doubt Loco
is an engineer. Your play on words don't mean shit.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 January 2018

LOCO It's FRA Certification you numb nut phoney ---your Foamer Railroad
Actor license comes out of a cracker jack box in yours mommas kitchen.

http://csx-sucks.com/SiteDist.pdf
Safety question ---If 16.2 feet of see per mile per hour of train speed
is required at crossings how can anybody not allowing that call
themselves an engineer?

If the screws for ice cleats are sticking your feet. Are the screws too
long.

Name: LOCO
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 January 2018

Corporate 30

Expose me?   HA! HA!  You think a stupid question about signal
indications and what changes them is going to expose me? Lets try
dispatch setting up signal indications, shunting the circuits with the
train, trains in the blocks ahead of you changing indications, opening
switches on the main line, signals pumping in bad weather, track
circuits down, sig. maintainers working on the line, and the best of
all.... the ignorant EXRF who is now just a TM shunting the track to
drop the sig, for a banner test when you only have an hour left to work
with 50 miles to run. Then they want a photo finish! 
If you think for one moment I am company mole and not a real engineer
holding an FRA engineer license, frankly I don't give a rats butt.
What I do care about and what most posters on here who are true
railroaders care about is how we are treated on the job and what is
happening to our craft and the damage that EHH has done to our
railroad. No one wants this site bombarded with a copy cat pines who
spent the last 12 years on here crying and ranting and raving about his
dead wife and blaming the crews for her stupidity. This new and improved
imposter is a frickin blast from the past and no one wants another 12
years of this site being manipulated and controlled by another obsessed
nut job who just wants to rant from his basement and debate with
everyone.  Watch him jump in every time anyone post anything that is
negative that is going on right now!  First sign of a company mole who
is on here to distract posters from whats going on in the yards and
terminals or cant stand it when he's losing attention! Don't think
for one moment Im going to play stupid and tell you who I am or what
terminal I work out of. That's for morons. 
You want a safety post????? How about my tele going out over half the
trip because the train is to damn long and it keeps throwing me a FR No
com. How about the TM rushing out the crews and ordering them to cut
corners on class 1 brake test because its so damn cold they cant get
the air up to legal levels(75) on the rear.  Got a lot of that going
on.
This is the last time I will let you bait me. Go play somewhere else.
Us real railroaders have more serious problems going on that need to be
discussed and revealed!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 January 2018

Loco
I can't resist exposing you. This IS a parody site so don't get
offended and start cursing.
There are lights on tracks can you explain what their purpose is?
Can you tell me what makes them change color? Come on now, a seasoned
railroader like yourself should be able to answer. All: How much you
wanna beck Loco won't answer?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 January 2018

All
The post made by Loco is how you spot a mole. He never posts anything
on safety nor anything other than trash talking others. Check out his
posts don't take my word for it.
Loco claims to be a seasoned veteran running trains but doesn't
understand the simplest of terms on railroads. If anyone cares about
his posts please inform him about sneaking up on a crossing making 3
mph or less.
As for the post I was trying to explain the CSX brain washing practice.
Hey mole tell me why the wheels fall off cars on most derailments?
Another way to spot a mole, Loco won't answer.

Name: White collar
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 January 2018

Louisville and rocky mount n.c. are next to go. These terminals are not
part of the big plan. Expect louisville to close by Mid March and rocky
mount by July

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 January 2018

when You get hurt at work who pays for your lawyer to represent you.
Just wondering from Canada.We had some guys transfer to st.paul min.
From here so they would fall under your laws. ?????

Name: Corp
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 January 2018

UP FELA 

That post is going to ruffle some feathers at the home office. The csx
medical department and their lawyers have been well aware of this issue
for several years. It isn't the easiest case to take on. They will look
into every inch of your past and try to find anything they can use that
would point to a previous injury or doctor visits related to the same
issues. Plenty cases have been won so employees shouldn't be
discouraged from pursuing this issue if problems started after exposure
on the railroad. Disability may be the end result.

Name: Na
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 January 2018

Pines
Go crawl back into your slime hole. Your useless.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 January 2018

LOCO sez ___Since I am a seasoned engineer--- What's that even
mean--your on a rotisserie with garlic and cloves stuck up your butt or
what? Seasoned where--when--why you lookin for pappa--you have no
seasoned name---

Since your really a tinker toy railroad addicted clown from Idaho I
won't even say the train windows could be open, the train door open,
looking out the second story.

So if we can't see the idiots on the trains how do they see us? No
wonder you seasoned dumb dumbs run down LIVE garbage bags all the time.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 January 2018

You people are lucky you can sue your employer and get proper
compensation. In Canada we have a compinsation board which is all for
the employer.you can be messed up with mri proof. Here chronic pain is
not recognized,if you can move they fast track you back to work. Then
you are cut off benefits,there your employer fires you for something
else because they donít want to accommodate an injured worker. Most
people end up on the street on welfare here. You have a much better
system in the USA.

Name: injured
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for N/A
Posted: 01 January 2018

UP

Thank you for posting this info. Employees can also google whole body
vibration injury and find more details on the subject. I have been in
discussion with my doctor over this and there are several engineers who
are now battling CSX over it. The constant vibration that is felt from
the seats of the locomotives is the contributing factor. There has been
an in depth case study of this and it has been proven that prolonged
exposure to the body by constant vibration can cause serious nerve  and
muscle damage.  I have numerous symptoms from this and I also now a
nerve in the middle of my back that has gone completely numb. The
number one damage seems to be to the sciatica in the buttocks and lower
back area. A law suit for this injury must be in process within 3 years
of the onset of the injury. The railroads are well aware of vibration
in the locomotives.

Name: UP FELA CLAIMS INFO
E-mail: lrinfo@up.com
Employed as: CSX Contractor, for N/A
Posted: 01 January 2018

Information Only Claims For Vibration Exposure:

UP is encouraging all TE&Y employees to submit a vibration exposure
claim, within the three year statue of limitation limits.

The Onset of Symptoms is Usually:

Discomfort
Pain
Numbness
Tingling
Burning
Swelling

Factors may that may be associated with these symptoms may include:

Intense long duration exposure to combinations of force and repetition

Doing task beyond your physical capabilities

Exposure to vibration above maximum health guidelines.

Report symptoms if they:

Are persistent, severe or worsening 

Radiate

Keep you from sleeping at night

If you have constant or unusual symptoms see [your] doctor and NOT the
company nurse.

Once an evaluation is completed, and it is determined that treatment is
needed, contact your FELA approved attorney for a free consultation.

Depending on years of service, settlements are generally above three
hundred thousands dollars  ($300,000.00).

This information is provided to all Railroaders.

Happy New Year!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 January 2018

Every one with an asshole has an opinion.Like I said daddy got some of
these managers there job. They donít have the field experiences,and
have to wing it to sound smarter than the rest of us. To try and
justify there existence for the space they take up in the management
pool. Think about the managers that where cut before Hh took over.There
was a lot of dead weight there.They had to much time on there hands so
they ran around to try and find something to make a case out of. Then
they could do there formal investigations,again to try and make
themselves look important.what CSX is allowing these morons to do is
creat an atmosphere,that is negative. And down the round it will bite
them in the ass. Every one needs a favour and a friend at some point in
there career.But these managers are burning all there bridges behind
them.

Name: Loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 January 2018

Pines

Since I am a seasoned engineer and have a lot more experience than you
could every have I can say without a shadow of a doubt that poster is a
liar and is a poser just like you. Someone who hates the crews just like
you but probably not for the same reasons. Your support for some poser
crack pot and the bashing of innocent crew members is disgusting and
frankly just shows how sick your mind has become. I have been out on
the rails far longer than you have hung out and played stand by. I can
tell you right now without a shadow of a doubt that there is no way he
saw the crew members laughing or cracking up over hitting a street
sweeper. I don't know one single person who I have worked with that
ever thought it was funny when they hit any vehicle or even have a near
miss. WE DONT THINK THAT ITS FUNNY! We have no desire to deal with that
stupid crap or the time it waste. We don't enjoy seeing someone hurt
or killed. 
Second, unless the man was standing  on the front of the engine looking
in the window there was no way he could tell what their expressions
where if this even really occurred. I pass crews on other trains on a
weekly basis. I am at the same height right next to them and it is
almost impossible to identify who is on the other train unless you have
worked with them and are familiar with their profile. If it was dark,
cloudy or even sunny it cast shadows on the windows and unless the crew
has their faces right up in the window which I guarantee you they
didn't then you wouldn't be able to tell what kind of expressions
they had on their faces. a lot of windows have a tinting on them. A two
bit dime store lawyer would laugh that one out of court. 
Stop with your baiting. Get a life man. Stop making a fool of yourself.
You got proof CSX is breaking the law and endangering lives then post it
to your hearts desire but stop with the crew bashing and supporting some
crack pot liar just because your bored and need some attention no matter
how you get it!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 December 2017

Name: Loco ---So now train crews are invisible and street sweepers
don't make noise.

Think I'll make Aug. 12th a stomp Jens Bang a new ass and warp his
head day

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 31 December 2017

Remember a lot of these corporate people are As weak as water.Daddy got
them the job and they are sell important. Outside of the railway
industry they are minimum wage people.In there atmosphere in management
there is so much ass kissing,and they all fight to suck the biggest
cock. For most that is how they keep a job.

Name: Loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 December 2017

Corp. 
Your a damn liar. No way in hell you saw their faces in the cab and
could see their expressions. Sneaking up on a crossing? How does a 210
tone motor bigger than a semi sneak up on a crossing. Your so full of
shit. Go take your mole ass somewhere else.better yet give us more
details on when and where this happened. You should have been a witness
and made a report to the local authorities.  RR should have record of
witness report. Would love to read your bullshit. This is why innocent
crew members have so much shit to deal with when a idiot doesn't pay
attention. Crack pots like you with your bull crap stories.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 December 2017

Take The Co post about killing pedestrians because he is cold. The post
is exactly how corporate feels. This post will be read by many people
so what then is the opinion of train crewmen? Trust me there are many
crewmen who have been brain washed into thinking all drivers are
stupid, mindless idiots. I watched a crew sneak up on a crossing last
year without activating the lights and gates. They crushed a street
sweeper trying to cross. I looked in the cab and the crew was cracking
up over scaring the driver to death. This was a NS train. How do you
think this effects the opinion of the public?
Co you're simply a mole.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 December 2017

Re: Friend
I'm glad you understood my post many do but don't comment. Railroads
are afraid of one single thing MEDIA. They control most everything
accept the media CSX- SUCKS being a part of the media. Used properly
this site can create changes to help railroader. If you were a CSX bad
guy treating people bad would you want your name and actions posted on
this site? If the employees would start posting safety problems and bad
guys CSX has no options but to respond by getting rid of bad things. The
reason you read so many posts that don't apply to safety is corporate
discrediting the site and what's being said. Think of it: if you slam
a poster you become a mole whether union or not. If you make posts
other than safety you are a mole discrediting safety. This site is a
powerful tool everyone should treat it as such. By putting out safety
problems and rediculous actions of the railroads will result in
positive changes.

Name: Co
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 December 2017

Pines/dirt bag 

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH....

Now to more important info.  4 degrees from Chicago to Indy all day.
High of -8 at night.  Monday even worse. Hoggers use that dynamic!
Sticky frozen brakes and slow ass air recovery puts the conductor at
risk walking the train. If you hit a dumb ass at a crossing don't get
out till the cops and RR feds show up. Not worth risking frost bite for
some dumb ass.  Keep safe and keep warm! Take plenty of fusees. Going to
need them for frozen locks. And shop those motors if the heat isn't up
to fra standards. when you tie down motors in the yard for lunch that
doesn't count as the start of lunch time. GC office has said lunch
time Starts when you get in the building. Full 20 minutes.  What a
f..king joke.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 31 December 2017

Mugshots.com ID: 69908027
Age: 60
Home Address: Sullivan
Arrest Date: 11/21/2013
Info: was arrested on the charge of Tampering With a Witness. A warrant
was issued and he remains in custody.

A monitor will be placed around his neck and will alert railroads of
any suspicious activity by this convicted felon. If you see this
disturbed individual call the police or your local nut house...He
usually has that " deer in the headlight" look on his face, so he
will be easy to recognize.

Name: Dirt nap returns
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 December 2017

Guess a real """railroader""" reads this ---plugs in train
counts/speeds/traffic counts/accident counts. Comes up with number one
most dangerous crossing in NY. Sees the ...priority when quiet zones
start...---Thinks ---hey there are no train horns anyway so there will
be no priority---they are stupid ---and walks into the Senators office
with the FACTS??? OR does the real """Railroader""" like diesel
foot warmers?

http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/rockland/clarkstown/2017/11/13/clarkstown-csx-train-hits-suv/859041001/
545074Y 41.0854530,-73.9617120 24 trains a day at 50 mph
Crossing ID 545074Y  ==  On Dec 06, 2013 a FREIGHT TRAIN operated by
CSX Transportation [CSX ] hit a TRUCK & TRAILER at approximately
11:40AM in New York in ROCKLAND county  on PINEVIEW RD road.  The
incident occurred in/near ORANGEBURG city. The rail equipment was
reported to have been traveling at 044 Mph with  2 locomotive(s) and 
99 cars(s).  The TRUCK & TRAILER had been traveling in an easternly
direction at 005 Mph.                                                  
                             
The railroad was operating on main line track over a private road
crossing.  It was cloudy, during the day and the temperature was  40. 
There were  0 death(s) and   1 injured in this incident and a Railroad
Injury/Illness Report (form FRA-55a) was also filed. The 55 year old
male driver was moving             on the crossing and was reported to
have not stopped.  There were  1 occupant(s) in the vehicle.  The view
of the track was not obstructed. The railroad was transporting
hazardous material.     The crossing was protected by:  Crossbucks     
                                                                        
                                                                        
                              
WHILE OPERATING NORTHBOUND ON SINGLE MAIN TRACK, THE K04305 CREW
REPORTS STRIKING SEMI AUTO CARRIER RESULTING IN DAMAGE TO LEAD
LOCOMOTIVE. FUEL TANK ON SEMI TRUCK RUPTURED AND CAUGHT FIRE REQUIRING
CREW MEMBERS TO EVACUATE THE LOCOMOTIVE WHEN TRAIN CAME TO A STOP.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 December 2017

....He is sharp but not a railroader....So the "how to be a
railroader" is on page 2,000 of a little prayer book somewhere in the
special kind of stupid section?

He isn't a doctor either but knows not to use two band aids on a
mastectomy.

From the Ozarks---One train a week on the other side of town to the
largest tie yard in the country at one time. Shut down--all signals
stolen and like a 100 crossings still open on inventory. Many with
signals just sitting there.

Oh---and it was the stupid fuck "RAILROADER" second victim at the
SAME piece of shit blind crossing and still no train horn.So yes--a lot
of it is stupid fuck "railroader" fault and maybe some serial killers
thrown in.

Name: Friend
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 December 2017

Ape
You got that right. Dirt nap/pines at it again. We also need to make
jan.1st stick it up the TMS number crunching ass day. Slow down and
take your time do you don't sljp and get hurt. Pray it gets so
stinking cold the air won't come up on these 2 mile long trains and
motors freeze up. Maybe then the cold hearted bastards won't run their
pie holes on how it's not that bad out there.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 31 December 2017

August 12 should be national " kill an idiot at a crossing" day...

Name: Dirt nap returns
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 December 2017

http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article192267679.html

Car and train collide in rural Collinsville
Google map location 38.675637,-89.9641136 Private---Just POS baby signs
the railroad puts there which mean nothing legally. NO SIGNALS. Typical
too narrow crossing with the Evel Knieval jump hump when design calls
for flat +/- 3 inches both sides for 30 feet. No train horns at private
crossings till the last second freezing drivers like deer in the
headlights. The 16.2 feet per mph of the train sight see lines not
there. Then a take off from a stop on the hump on ice is impossible.
Railroads should be made to put out traction at crossings in bad
weather.

USDOT crossing number ---546573T ---11 trains a day ---60 mph trains at
the next public crossing

2738 0.012896 546574A CSX IL MADISON COLLINSVILLE S MULBERRY RD 0 0 0 0
0 GT 11 2 60 YES 2 800

The crossing on the other side PUBLIC Rolek Road is on the drawing
board for lights/gates at a ridiculous $335,000 these thieves get away
with. Reconstruct Approaches ---SO IS THERE A APPROACH PROBLEM ON ALL
THESE CROSSINGS THE PUBLIC IS NOT BEING MADE AWARE OF? 

https://www.toi.org/Downloads/899/Twp
546572L CSX Madison Collinsville Rolek Road Automatic Install Flashing
Light Signals and Gates Reconstruct Approaches $335,000

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 December 2017

There will always be people out there that only hear what they want to
hear.And ignore everything else!

Name: Friend
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 December 2017

Loco 
I'm sorry that no one was smart enough to see the point of your post.
Everyone is just plain brain dead and so blinded by pines ranting and
raving he started after that Amtrak derailment. I completely get it
because I just lived it. It's was 6 degrees and cold as hell and snow
blowing with wind chill that kills your face. I got tracks to pull to
build trains and when I finally get to leave the God forsaken hell hole
I hear a YM telling someone the cold hearted number crunching
TM was pitching a bitch because he didn't think we were working like
we could and the weather wasn't that bad! If I didn't have kids at
home I would have told the bastard to kiss my ass. I'm not lazy and
I'm not someones whipping post or bitch for his numbers. EHH is going
to have a lot of familiar faces in hell with him. I miss the old heads
who had balls. Wish I could pull off a strike all by myself but not
gonna work!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 December 2017

I know a lot of good Hoggers that are pretty gentle with there train.
But get upset when they break a knuckle. As a train inspector I tell
them there is nothing they can do about it. With these long trains
there is so much extra stress put on these knuckles that it is just a
matter of time before they break. I have changed more knuckles that are
cracked than ever before.It is alarming how many knuckles are out there
that are cracked and just waiting to break. The longer the train the
more chance of breaking. My friend stopped using the dynamic break on
trains with slaves on tail end because he would almost get a knuckle
every time!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2017

Re: Conductor 20 to 30
Pines hasn't posted in at least five years. He was from St Louis. His
ex wife turned left in front of a BNS train and was killed. His problem
was not with train crews but came to an understanding of the corruption
between states, Feds, railroads and fraud against crossing protection.
The current Pines knows people do stupid stuff ending up in front of a
train, but railroads are using equipment that tells drivers it is safe
to cross with the gates up and lights off and pull in front of you. He
knows you can't stop but drivers and train crews are being set up by
railroads. He is sharp but not a railroader. Posters slam pines and he
slams back but you must remember many people monitor CSX-SUCKS.
A perfect example of what I'm talking about is the UTA / Fed Ex. The
report was totally false and the Signalman fired falsely. There is no
one to help him while the NTSB and FRA are working against him. Train
crewman are also blaimed and imprisoned for murder in the same
situation.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2017

Re: Loco
Good example of slamming on the breaks of your pick and all the kegs
slam into the truck cab. Force of nature. Heavies in the front hazmat
in rear. Don't over load the train which decreases stopping. 
With a train the load pushes to the front or the heavy engines.
Railroads don't want to tear up these engines in a derailment so the
engines disconnect. In any case corporate will blame the train crew or
maybe a deer for causing the derailment.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 December 2017

No corporate, the comment wasn't because of that. The comment was for
pines who thinks that when a car gets hit by a train, that it's the
crews fault. Anyone with a driver's license knows that if there are
tracks, that you should stop and look whether there are gates or
crossbucks or no sign at all. The train was already coming before
someone decided that they don't have to look before crossing. That's
what it meant. I know there are dozens of things that could be our
fault, and could be prevented, but when someone in a car uses bad
judgement, it's too late for us to do anything about it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A
Posted: 30 December 2017

Re:loco
That is absolutely the best post I have ever read. Hats off to the
railroader in which I am proud to be a part of
CSX is a great company which has been taken over by criminals who
offset the companies bottom line through theft. However they are so
important to the nation government sides with them. They have control
over most everything except public opinion. Believe it or not most of
the public think highly of railroads and are restricted from knowing
the bad things that go on, mostly by false reporting of the media. At
least right now.

Name: Loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 December 2017

Derailment/ape 
Your in a pickup truck with your kegs in the back.Some idiot slams on
his brakes in front of you. Naturally you slam on yours. Guess where
your kegs end up. Against the back of your truck cab. Your face is in
the window on the dash. Moral of the story?  Don't slam on the
dynamics. They can be used in any senario if used with half a brain.
Start early and easy. Don't strip them either way. anticipate hills.
Know your slack. Don't hot dog them!

Facts: trains derail and have since the beginning of railroads because
of
1-bad track not maintained 
2-bad equipment rushed out on the rail 
3-acts of mother nature -wash outs,heated rails,etc.
4-bad train handling.
5-what ever else you think of.
When your dead and burried trains will still be derailing. What can you
do about it?  ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. DEBATE,CRY.WHINE,PROTEST BUT IT WON'T
CHANGE!
What can change is abuse and disregard for human suffering at the hands
of greedy cold hearted supervisors and shareholders who forget that
their bread and butter comes from the lowly blue collar workers in the
field that build and run their damn trains. The workers who repair that
rotten equipment and the workers who keep their signals,track and
switches working. How about a hands up for the poor carknockers who are
trying to get air through 2 Mile long cuts in 20 below so they can do a
damn class 1 air test. I guess abusing and belittling workers have
become so common place no one gives a shit anymore. So I'll just come
in from working 6 fu...Kin hours in 7 degree weather to be told 20
minutes later to get the help back outside and hope I had enough time
to warm my food up and choke it down. 20 minute stinking lunch. the
damn garbage man gets a longer lunch then that! Oh shit, sorry I got
side tracked. We were debating erailments! My bad!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2017

Re: Dickface
Son I've forgotten more about railroads than you'll ever know. Nun
the less your post indicates you have been brain washed. I haven't
heard your comments other than at the GOB in Jax.. I must of got under
your skin. Not to worry I too was brain washed for years.  When you do
things wrong do you say " I'm just doing  what I'm told to do its
not my fault" I did too.  And people who die or are injured? WELL
it's their fault since we were hear first.  Mole/company guy. Ha!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 December 2017

That's a good one APE you don't like your conductor break the knucle.
Ha!
Now look at the couplers. They are open at the top which allows a
disconnect when cars run into each other if you lock em up. 
So going into emeregence stop can cause a derail but how it derails
saves railroads big bucks. You don't want the cars running down the
street or chasing down cars a half mile away to get them back on track.
You want the cars to stay on property. 
When you go into immergency a lite car is in front of many other cars
or a heavy car. The weight pushs against the lite car that breaks the
knuckle and the car jumps in the front and jack knifes. This causes
many cars to jack knife stopping the train by becoming a led sled. The
derailed cars can be filled with hazmat, but regardless the procedure
endangers the crew, responders and public. As you state the weight of
the car only holds the wheels on save a small metal block if not
missing. When the cars start bucking up in the air there is little to
hold the wheels on. This is why derailed cars generally have no wheels.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 December 2017

On a new rail car you have 2Ēof free slack on each end of the car. Once
the coupler draft gear get worn in you can have up to 10Ē of free slack
at each end of a rail car. Now you apply the brakes on a hundred car
train that free slack turns into feet. That is a lot of energy force.
Pushing to the front of train. If you do not control it with your air
brakes you could have a derailment.Same as starting to pull a train
there is so much free slack that by the time the energy hits the tail
end of the train it could pull the end of the car off. There is a lot
of physics at play for the engineer to control his train. If an
engineer does not like the conductor. He knows how to break. Knuckle.
Lol

Name: Dickfaces
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 December 2017

And anyone with a couple brain cells knows that the axles are held there
by the weight of the railcar. They are made to come out from under the
car when it becomes upset so it drags to a stop. The axles are very
rarely the cause of any damage, you just think they are because you
believe the news that doesn't know shit, and you believe that a
railroad that was there 100 years before roads and cars, and houses
that were dumbassedly built beside tracks, doesn't have the right of
way. Go suck your thumb and cry about how scared you are of big scary
trains that ran over your stupid wife that was somewhere she didn't
belong.

Name: Dickfaces
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 December 2017

Pines and his many other fake names: just stop. No one cares. We're not
dumb enough to believe that someone else would post immediately after
you and agree with you, and or to argue with you in a way that lets you
answer with a point you were trying to make. It's obvious that rrjim,
pines, l&n, and whoever else happens to show up at the exact time as
you, is in fact you. They all lack the same knowledge that proves that
you don't know shit about any of this bullshit you're always trying
to sell.

Name: Derailment
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 December 2017

An engineer was coming down a grade with loaded train cars. To slow the
train down he used the dynamic brake only. Which caused twenty cars
behind the locomotives to derail in an accordion fashion. If he would
of used his air breaks at the same time this derailment would not of
happened. The force of that energy has to work for you not against you.
And he was not going very fast at all.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2017

I see what this Guys sayin!!!!
Many things can cause a derailment but it's what happens next that
saves the company money in a lot of ways, each one putting people in
danger, not really because of the derailment but the damage caused by
cars and tankers flying everywhere. So if no one will say it I will. To
keep cars from flying everywhere the wheels fall off causing a lead
sled. Look at the wheels! They're designed to fall off.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 December 2017

So much railroad"""oh woe is us""" dribble on a Saturday. Someone
cares. Do ya chip ice going up a 500 foot tower to change a pre-amp?
Dig a 3 feet trench in rock hard frozen ground long enough to splice
out where the state drove a road sign turning off the Super Bowl?

Do ya NOT KNOW WHY TRAIN WHEELS FLY OFF the reason for the dribble??


https://www.bnsf.com/communities/safety-and-security/safety-and-technical-training/

...Our network of 48 locomotive simulators, based both at the TTC and
in the field, provides distance-learning opportunities where employees
work. The simulations can be customized to reflect various train types,
weather, terrain and times of day...

https://m.soundtransit.org/sites/default/files/Motion%20M2015-106_0.pdf

>>>Fund software development for BNSFs NETSIM training simulation<<<
So three deaths while committing fraud is homicide on the BNSF RR one
would think.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2017

I see you didn't read the comments. No one said anything about
"feathering the brakes" & going into emergency. The one thing an
engineer has to do if the train is in emergency while under power is to
bail off the independent place the automatic in between first service &
full service to maintain 20 seconds of power.

Name: Foamer
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 30 December 2017

So why would some of you smart guys feather the brakes to bring your
train to a stop if it's in emergency ?  Will this help to prevent a
derailment?  Perhaps you should share your knowledge so we can be safer
out here.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 December 2017

Working out in the cold? You work for a railroad. Cutting extra boards?
I remember there were those who wanted them cut so they could work &
make more. I'm sure Hog Heads are still out there. Maybe some have
never really been hungry. I spent 5+ years constantly getting
furloughed-marked up-furloughed etc... waiting for the day I'd work
year round. During those years back in the '70s extra boards during
winter were cut and those working were running up. If you were lucky
they'd call you up off the furlough board to sweep switches there was
no HOS so one could work till they cut you off. Nothings changed on
getting sick. Most of us went to work sick then tried to kick it while
in lodging. Times haven't changed they remain the same.

Name: ENG
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 December 2017

PINES


NO ONE CARES!!!!!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 December 2017

https://www.bnsf.com/communities/safety-and-security/safety-and-technical-training/

...Our network of 48 locomotive simulators, based both at the TTC and
in the field, provides distance-learning opportunities where employees
work. The simulations can be customized to reflect various train types,
weather, terrain and times of day...

https://m.soundtransit.org/sites/default/files/Motion%20M2015-106_0.pdf

>>>Fund software development for BNSFs NETSIM training simulation<<<
So three deaths while committing fraud is homicide on the BNSF RR one
would think.

Name: Conductor fan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 December 2017

The Conductor nailed it!!!!!! Nothing more I can say!!!


"What we do care about is everyone who is out in this damn cold
weather
and are sick and been beat down for the last 3 weeks because the devil
from hell(EHH) make a mess out of everything. Ran good workers off,
put
people on the street and has now even from the grave created a man
power
shortage we haven't seen in years. the company is begging for
transfers
all over the system to fill in where there aren't enough people to
work. We still have this abuse attendance policy that is going to make
people show up sick as a dog and make everyone else sick too. Listen
people, when you get sick go to the emergency room! Don't go to a med
care. BOMBARD THE HELL OUT OF THE EMERGENCY ROOM. If you puking,
coughing up green or what ever. Your co pay may be a little higher now
thanks to our worthless unions, but the cost to the company is higher.
Make them pay out the nose to cover all of us for putting us in this
situation. The stress is weakening a lot of guys out here and are
breaking them down. It frickin going to be -14 degrees for the 3rd
shift guys and you can bet your ass they wont get the 10-15 minute
breaks that were always required to get warm and out of dangerous cold
temps. They will give them 15-20 minutes lunches and run them back out
in the yards.  If your in freezing wind chills make sure management
knows when your needing a break. If they don't give it to you write
down names, times, dates, and when you asked. If you get sick make
sure
you send all the info to the medical department and let your personal
physician know. This isn't a joke. This company aint worth dying for
and getting frost bite. EHH is warm an toasty in hell. WE ARENT!"

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 December 2017

https://m.soundtransit.org/sites/default/files/Motion%20M2015-106_0.pdf

So Sounder was pumping millions to BNSF to run this circus ---BNSF
whose design and supply would be to put in the most equipment possible
with design to increase profits.

Scope out the rest of the run and NO make ready done. The crossings on
this run humped the crossings for low boy traps instead of going a few
inches deeper for the increased height of track. BNSF can fork out $500
million for shoddy work. Where you at MATT ROSE---Train deaths
""really bother me"" you say.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2017

Re: Retired Conductor
You're right derailments are a national problem and all railroads use
the same protocol, its human error not the company. This saves MONEY!
The question remains, why do the wheels fall off? Can you answer?

Name: Roberto De Pino
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 December 2017

Cond.
No, no, no let's don't talk about derailments that get us killed and
falsely accused, LETS all discuss the weather and the companies not
warming my bottle properly. All you guys need to listen to me and do
stuff I'm afraid to do myself. Cond. If you'd been a man and stood up
to begin with CSX wouldn't be treating you like crap. Instead you want
to blame everyone else even the union. MOLE!!!!!

Name: Retired Conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2017

I disagree,it doesn't matter that the derailment wasn't on CSX. The
same thing could happen to you. If appears to be a combination of
minimal qualification and distraction. Both are rampant on CSX. My
friends still working tell me about being ordered over territory they
haven't properly qualified on. Plenty of distractions too, long hours,
looooong trains, job insecurity, dicipline.... Your first priority is
keeping yourself safe, then worry about moving trains.

Name: Cond
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 December 2017

GET OVER IT!

No one gives a rats ass about the derailment anymore. Go find a god
damn Amtrak site to continue this stupid ass topic. Trains have been
derailing since they started railroading. All this derailment did was
bring out the foamers, the pines nut case, and the a holes that just
want to debate out of their basements. WE DONT GIVE A SHIT ANYMORE!
What we do care about is everyone who is out in this damn cold weather
and are sick and been beat down for the last 3 weeks because the devil
from hell(EHH) make a mess out of everything. Ran good workers off, put
people on the street and has now even from the grave created a man power
shortage we haven't seen in years. the company is begging for transfers
all over the system to fill in where there aren't enough people to
work. We still have this abuse attendance policy that is going to make
people show up sick as a dog and make everyone else sick too. Listen
people, when you get sick go to the emergency room! Don't go to a med
care. BOMBARD THE HELL OUT OF THE EMERGENCY ROOM. If you puking,
coughing up green or what ever. Your co pay may be a little higher now
thanks to our worthless unions, but the cost to the company is higher.
Make them pay out the nose to cover all of us for putting us in this
situation. The stress is weakening a lot of guys out here and are
breaking them down. It frickin going to be -14 degrees for the 3rd
shift guys and you can bet your ass they wont get the 10-15 minute
breaks that were always required to get warm and out of dangerous cold
temps. They will give them 15-20 minutes lunches and run them back out
in the yards.  If your in freezing wind chills make sure management
knows when your needing a break. If they don't give it to you write
down names, times, dates, and when you asked. If you get sick make sure
you send all the info to the medical department and let your personal
physician know. This isn't a joke. This company aint worth dying for
and getting frost bite. EHH is warm an toasty in hell. WE ARENT!

Name: Dobie Gillis
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 December 2017

http://wgno.com/2017/12/29/nigerian-prince-email-scammer-arrested-in-slidell/

FRAs and railroads names are changed to protect the innocent.

Name: Dobie Gillis
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 December 2017

http://csx-sucks.com/SiteDist.pdf

So if it takes 162 feet of SEE for each 10 mph of train speed all
plotted out nice and pretty how many feet of SEE does a 80 mph train
need to slow 63.5%?

Name: Roberto De Pino
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 December 2017

See conductor wait til I get my gloves an I take You job for $5 an hour.
I from the CSX De Mexico railroad. You go find job at McDonalds flipping
burgers OK?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2017

Re: conductor/mole
Sorry there is nothing of interest in my post to you about corporate
running cars off the tracks, putting train crews, responders and
general public in danger, while at the same time blaming the crew.
How about just a simple question from you? Let me help you. In most
(train wrecks) you know when the cars fly everywhere, why do the wheels
and carriages fall off? Is this some accident or by design by railroads?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 December 2017

This company only cares about the short term shareholders.  I've worked
in the cold all week and now I'm sick as a dog.  I refuse to mark off
and gets more points and frankly I don't give a shit if I go in and
fuck something up.  This place sucks the life out of you and I've got
nothing else to give.  Not sure why we don't get sick days.  If anyone
deserves a sick day, it's a railroader.

Name: abused
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 December 2017

Any one else!!!!

Are the engineer xbd cut to dangerous level at you terminals. They got
the board so short out of Avon yard its going to get someone hurt.
Everyone is run into the ground until they can get to their day off.
Hopefully everyone will get 6 starts before their off days so they can
go into extra days off. This is the worst we have seen it in years. The
weather is starting to suck and its not just cold its starting to snow.
The trains will come to a stand still and the customers wont be
serviced because there wont be anyone to fill the jobs and vacancies. 
What the hell is wrong with this company!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2017

What is PYC?
Drailment, Drailments, Drailing, Drails.  Are these real words?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2017

Sorry I forgot what I posted under.
According to posts:
Drailments can be caused when going into emergency but not always.
Feathering can prevent Drailing but that's not dumping the air is it?
Drailing can be prevented by dumping the air in the last car first.
If you don't go into emergency you get blamed in court for not doing
everything to prevent an accident.
Human error is usually the cause of a Drailment.
When public transportation Drails the FRA wants the public to pay for
PYC.
What's missing? Railroads(proper) are not mentioned as causing a
Drailment.
In most Derailments the wheels have came off, carriages came off and
knuckles are broken  off.

Name: NA
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2017

RRJim/Hogger

Just like "me" having no idea what feathering brakes is, the term
shoo fly apparently wasn't known or used everywhere either. The lesson
here? Don't assume someone is stupid or doesn't know what they are
talking about because a term was not readily used everywhere.

As for our Pines, not buying he is our original pines who started
posting on here over 14 years ago or longer. If he was involved in
drivers ed simulators and his buddy was involved with locos then he
should have known that the death of his wife after being hit by a train
was her own fault and he wouldn't have spent the last 12 years crying
over it. But then he has stepped away from it and his rant and raving
about gate crossing malfunctions. Maybe it is his son. 
Does anyone know if the old man got out of prision and is clear of his
jury tampering charges?
Still checking on Willard yard closing. Not hearing anything from the
upper management in the yard. Keeping quiet for some reason. Rumor at
the engine house is they are calling guys back but no one is answering
the phones. Some have already taken jobs at Amtrak and other
shortlines.  We are short as hell on power and some of the
rent-a-wrecks are showing up.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2017

Retired Hogger

Shoefly must be a regional railroad term. I started railroading in Ohio
when a lot of us transferred to Virginia from Ohio & Michigan in the
late '70s & early '80s some of the terms we used up north didn't
mean anything to the guys down here. All I knew that as was a temporary
siding. The line I ran that rarely ever happened seeing it was mostly
one side a river the other side a mountain.

Name: Retired Hogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2017

RRJim,

Where I came from  a shoefly was a temporary track laid  to get around
a derailment or some kind of long term track work or bridge work. She
was correct in the term but not how it is used, she came off as an
IDIOT and can't believe she has the job she has...

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2017

APE 20-30

There were a lot of so-called experts after the derailment. One that
made me shake my head was a woman who was a former head of the DOT. She
was one of the first interviewed on the news the day it happened. She
was talking about railroad operations and made mention of trains doing
a "shoo-fly"? Never heard that expression. Neither had others I
called which between the 5 of us had nearly 200 years of railroad
experience. She used that term for taking the siding. Couple hours
later they were finally interviewing a former FRA inspector & a retired
railroad inspector. Which quiet a bit of those interviews was educating
the news people on correct railroad terminology.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 December 2017

Jake brake is about the same as counter steam brakes on steam locos I
would think. My buddies old man made a steam engine land ready and it
was in the parade every year. That train whistle had to be 400 db. Then
a diesel engine is a diesel engine and brakes don't know people from
coal so why would passenger brakes be different?

http://www.railsimulations.com/locosim.html

I used to repair drivers ed simulators 35 years or so ago. Reel to reel
played a road trip with checks on the cars (drivers seat part) for over
steering, speed, brakes, turn-signals, etc..Train simulator should be
1/2 price.

How much simulation training did this group get?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 December 2017

Re: Other
I don't know all the answers on Harrison or investments. I can tell
you that stocks tank when really bad news is revealed to the public.
Railroads and government can certainly handle bad news but I fear they
don't understand the costs.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 December 2017

RRJim
People at headquarters use to go down the halls laughing "how do you
stop a train" someone else would hollow back "The wheels fall off".
Everyone knows you can't stop a train quickly with the breaking system
in use. I Dont think I'm going to get into details just now. First
check how the wheels are held on and post back. Blaming a crewman in
court for not going into emergency is the railroads way of giving some
divorce attorney a way to blaim an accident on human error. Protocol
!!!!!! The train crew.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 December 2017

according to the Tacoma? TV station they interviewed a former BNSF
engineer, now a "safety expert" working for a law firm, who said as
many as 6 people in cab, at night, taking turns at the throttle, doing
qualification runs because they mostly couldn't get any track time
during the day, so it would be difficult to realize from dark scenery
that they were entering a speed restriction, and other sources suggest
a small sign down the road for speed was not very visible. Wonder what
the bulletins and timetables said? AND, Mr. Pines, how does a
locomotive "jake brake"? Dynamic I understand, but jake brake is for
truck systems.

Name: XRF
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 December 2017

Engineers

 If you go into emergency or you apply it yourself do not forget to hit
the toggle switch and dump it from the rear. The Erad is set up to catch
that. On the great lakes division they had a Division manager who was
ape shit crazy about that and wanted every engineer busted for not
doing it. He didn't care what is was caused by. If the train dumped
while opening an angle cock he wanted it done. I know. I had to counsel
a few guys on it. If your going to hit a car make sure you cover that as
well. Just do everything by the book and take all measures possible to
show in court that you did. Nothing else they can do to you.

Name: RRJim
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 December 2017

One other concern in the Washington derailment. PTC was in place but not
operational. Why not wait till it was operational? That was baffling.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 December 2017

Legal & Corporate

There is no rule in certain situations on going into emergency. One of
them is grade crossing accidents. It's a decision the locomotive
engineer must make within seconds. My first responsibility is to the
train. What if I'm carrying HAZMAT's? In every grade crossing
accident after doing my best to make the train safe I put the train
into emergency before impact. Not because it was going to help stop the
train nothing was going to stop it, I did it for the frigging lawyers
who would try to use it stating that it wasn't done. Like I said most
of these situations it's the LE's call. I'm talking freight not
passenger. Brakes on AMTRAK are totally different. Almost like
automobile brakes they apply & release simultaneously. I've read where
if the LE would of applied them 1/4 mile before the curve he would of
gotten the speed down. That's more about knowing the territory. Seeing
this was the first revenue run the question is how qualified was the LE
on the territory? Second all AMTRAK & commuter line accidents the past
couple of years it was an "engineer only" in the cab of the
locomotive. Congress allowed it to cut costs. Engineer only is allowed
on AMTRAK runs less than 6 hours. There's the "what if's?". What if
an assistant LE was also in the cab?

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 December 2017

LE 20-30

You know what it is to "feather the brakes". It was common practice
years ago. It's applying the independent but not holding it steady
"continuously applying it then knocking it off scaling back" another
term was "fanning the brakes". Used it when working in the yard to
keep speed in check, creeping up to a signal, when knocking off the
dynamics mostly on MTY's creeping up to a signal stopping on the
mainline if you didn't need air, on a grade applying just enough
independent to stop wheel slipping etc.... Hard to do now a days with
GPS & ERAD. I got busted a few times by the ERAD for doing it for wheel
slipping making a grade while it was raining. RFE called told me he had
an ERAD report I had my independent on while moving, I told him "why
the hell would I do that?". lol. He knew what I was doing seeing he
was old school and let it slide. Yes, Wide bodies don't knock off like
the old GP-38M, GP-40 & 40-2's etc... a lot slower but it can still be
used in some situations. One doesn't want to hold the independent
steady at any lbs seeing it could cause flat spots on the locomotive.

Name: Robert Pines
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 December 2017

https://www.ble-t.org/pr/news/newsflash.asp?id=6051

Why don't this guy just say the BLE brass are pussy spineless
jellyfishes?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 December 2017

http://mynorthwest.com/855029/wsdot-train-derailment-speed-limits/?

...It also states that the bypass meets all Federal Railroad
Administration requirements...
Where can these it took a special kind of stupid or BOUGHT to come up
with requirements be found?

Let's see a cracker jack box size sign two miles before which is way
too early or the train driver could Jake brake once in awhile. Then a
cracker jack sign where it is too late.

Aerial view shows at least three big fancy DEAD signal houses passed in
two miles when one fiber which was already there can carry tons of info
forever.

Then the ONE mile marker 18 sits twice as high as P-30 sign at Google
map 47.090404,-122.6372638. Driving down I-44 today mile markers every
.2 miles so there are 9 of those missing for a time table plus three to
five regulation size speed limit signs. But then BNSF I 5 (SO BD) Mile
Marker LKVW-NISQUALLY is 10.15 which is 7.85 miles not two miles. The
time table must be in the cracker jack box.

Name: Other
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

Me too

I have a question for you if you really are in the corp. office and in
the know.  What was the final deal with the package they gave EHH for
his term. In the earlier negotiations they he wanted 32 million a year
for 4 years but he had to serve a full 1 year term in order to fulfill
the agreement. Obviously he didn't so what happens to the money and
the deal? Does it go back into the company or is it going into Foote's
pocket? There is no way in hell you or anyone can tell me that csx
didn't have a back up plan for the money in place when they made the
deal with him. They all knew he was sick as hell and had one leg in the
grave. No way he was going to make it full term. CSX may be evil but
they aren't idiots when it comes to keeping their money. That's a lot
of dough. I got investments outside of this company because I have never
counted on having this job until I could retire. My investors are
watching it around the clock. they have the ability to pry into the
business of Mantle ridge and their activities but we don't out here in
the field. I read csx couldn't come up with what EHH demanded so they
got backing from other sources beside the mantle ridge deal. If I got
to start putting my money else where to guarantee that I have a decent
life when I retire then tell me now.

Name: Corporate
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 December 2017

Legal
You are absolutely correct in your analisysy of what happens to a train
crew in court who testifies "we didn't go into emergency". This is a
protocol used by all railroads to blame the train crew. All accidents
have protocol.  All investigators are then working off the same page. I
can tell you in most accidents what the news will report. It was human
error!!!!!!  Problem is, as Legal why don't you know all this to
represent the crews. I have volunteered before. It's just like your
response, you want to tell me how the court works instead of what do I
need to know to help the train crews.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

Ok. I have listened to all this bitching long enough. Yes the railroad
is fucked.Hurray Hunter is dead. I get it. We need to make this our
railroad. Foote is gonna be a short timer. Everybody do their part to
get us better working conditions at their respective location. The
unions are a joke and so are company officals. I know general chairman
and band 6 and 7 on both sides. They are frigging tards. We just need
to last one more day than them.

Name: Me Too
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 December 2017

Real Roader
You mention this site needs someone from upper management to come on
here so you guys can figure out what your future is.
I've been trying to do that for more than 20 years and all I ever get
is bad responses. If you can't comprehend small things how do I begin
to explain complicated matters?the only ones interested in my posts are
railroads and FRA. They keep all my posts.
So what do you want to know and I'll try to answer. Remember some
lager areas I can't talk about just now.
Now watch the posts and see if I get legitimate questions.

Name: Legal
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

Me

Let me give you a little piece of advice. If you know for a fact that
you are going to hit a vehicle and the occupants are not able to get
out before you do, set the emergency brakes. I can tell you without any
uncertainty that if you kill anyone in the vehicle and you end up having
to go to court for the collision, you will be asked if you did
everything possible to stop the train. If you state to the lawyer of
the family what you posted on here don't be surprised if you end up
with a manslaughter charge in civil court. You better have a real good
reason why you didn't do everything possible to prevent the loss of
life. If you think for one moment the company will stand behind you and
admit they told you not to set the emergency brakes in these situations
your are sadly mistaken. Yes, you could say you felt it was too late
and it wasn't necessary but the family may feel totally different
about your decision.

Name: ?
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

RRJim

Would you like to take this one? You have been around long enough to
know what the term feathering the brakes are. "Me" apparently is a
pup or never was taught what feathering brakes are. I use it all the
time when using smaller yard locos and not using air. Was taught by one
of the best in the yard. Unfortunately the newer locos load so stinking
slow and the independent brakes bleed off even slower so it makes it
hard to feather a wide body.  Nearly impossible. 

Go for it JIM!

Name: Monitor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

All Crafts

Rip Willard was 100% correct when he suggested that everyone stop
bickering about issues that are not relevant to what is happening in
the industry right now. As bad as the Amtrak situation was, it is not
an issue for the freight train service and what is happening in CSX at
this moment. Let the FRA and Feds deal with their issues. With new tax
laws in the next year, a new CEO and a change in the entire operations
in progress there is going to be serious back lash for many in the
field. Back wages are supposed to be paid soon and engineers will be
getting a bonus. No matter how large or small everyone needs to be
smart and hang on to every dime they get until the smoke settles down
from this crazy fiasco. There is NO CERTAINTY who will be left standing
and where they will be when the dust settles. Be wise. Make good
choices. Plan for the possibility of having to relocate your families. 
Never assume anything. Do not forget that your medical coverage has
changed. It will cost you a lot more for medical care now and a sick
family member at this time of year could hurt your dearly. If you learn
anything that is helpful  do not hesitate to post it on this site. Do
not let the company moles or lonely basement foamers discourage you.
Everyone needs to have each others back. 2018 is probably going to be
one of the hardest years for any one with less than 10 years. Hang
tough and hang tight! Be safe and take your time. Know one is any good
to their family if they go home hurt or sick.  God bless and pray for a
better 2018!

Name: Me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

Real railroader,Pines,and whoever else, (there's too many of you nut
jobs to keep up with)....

We are not warned to not use emergency . That and the idea that it's
going to cause some catastrophic event is idiotic. Not saying in
isolated incidents there hasn't been a derailment,usually on the rear
of the train, but if I had to guess, one in 3000 ?  If I had to guess
there's probably a 100 or more trains go in emergency every day in
this country and nothing happens.

Rrailroader your give away was feather the brakes as needed. There's
no such thing foamer....

If and when we apply an "emergency" application it typically will
result in a automatic download to network ops where someone will review
and decide if it needs to be investigated further. This used to be done
by roadforeman before HH fired them and all were investigated.  
Basically if it was a UDE ,youll know what that is if you work out
here, then nothing happens. But if the engineer was letting the train
get ahead of him or her, and they place the train in emergency, usually
it means they screwed up. (Along with the cod too btw ). So that being
said some are hesitant to use emergency because they don't want to be
reprimanded . And in the vast majority of cases it won't keep from
hitting anything to use it because it's too late to stop so why bother
and then the cod gone have inspect the entire train too ,unless you want
to eat or take a nap,wait, did I say that...oops

Name: real Rroader
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

real rroader/conductor 

Your a smart ass. And as for the other rroader poster if you were a
real engineer or conductor you would know what the hell your supposed
to do to keep the cars from piling up on the engines. Did no one teach
you how to bleed the engine brakes off(bail off) and feather them as
needed to bring the train down to a safe stop. Think before you post
answers to the stupid idiot pines questions.  
There wasn't a damn thing that I posted that wasn't the truth and is
embarrassing as hell to the company. Sure their lawyers and public
relations department is loving that one. Ask any signal maintainer or
M&W crew if it isn't true. There are two many want-a-be foamers on
here and company moles anymore. I think Im going to send a request to
the webmaster and ask him to start fronting them out. Its been done in
the past before. Everyone who works for the company knows what's the
truth and what isn't.
We have bigger problems. Until we can get someone in upper management
to come on board with the crews no one is really going to know what the
new CEO is going to do or has planned. You cant get any answers from the
Union reps. No one is talking. Just gossip and rumors. 
If he closes more yards, its obvious he is following the precision plan
and going to unload as much as he can and as many people as he can.
Don't believe he would start hiring if he's reducing yards. What the
hell do you need people for if you shutting down the terminals. No one
knows but upper management what he has in store and they aren't
talking.
Just remember if you come on here and post anything good or half way
truthful the company moles are going to jump all over it. Don't let
them distract you. We need all the info about our futures as we can
get!

Name: Real Rroader
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

I use to sit in a lawn chair in Waycross and pretend I was a real rail
roader. On this site all I have to do is post that 
  I'm a real railroader and everybody believes me. Oh! I Have to curse
Pines out a little too. Love this site full of idiots.

Name: Loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

To Rip Willard
Good safety post Rip. Stop listening to Pines and get on with the
gossip like some old woman! Do your job and don't worry about
everybody else's business. Maybe this will help you.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 December 2017

Higher/Idiot
You and people like you are the reason for management to get rid of
people. You get rid of the bulk of the work force. You get rid of some
good people in the process but you also get rid of mindless people like
yourself. THEN you hire people who are qualified and don't cause
trouble. This costs money but eventually you get rid of most idiots.
Many companies do the same thing it's just a cost of doing business.
Have you ever really looked at yourself and what your contributions
are? Do the company a favor and quit while you still know everything!

Name: RRoader
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 December 2017

To answer your question
Yes we are all warned not to go into emergency stop cause locking the
wheels on all cars causes the cars to pile up against the engine and
jump the track. Better than having cars running down the street with
hazmat in them.

Name: hogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

Rip Willard

Your absolutely right. Everyone needs to ignore this pine loser and
move on. Just ignore him. From what I have seen he is nothing but a
shit stirring poser who needs attention on this site and has been here
for years doing it.
 I haven't heard anything about the new King of the hill closing any
yards. If he does where are these people going to go and why would he
have to hire. If they cant move across the system because of seniority
they need jobs created for them somewhere even if they have to go to
the bottom of the barrel. This Foote character has already stated to
the press he is going to continue following in the foot steps of that
crazy crack pot. He might have died but his evil soul is still
lingering in the shadows. No one has seen a back pay check yet. they
have 4 days to stick to their promises that they put out in writing on
system notices.

Name: Fact
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

Ask Trainmaster David Benson about his late night pillow fights wth his
male roommate. Seriously ..!!!!

Name: Rip Willard 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

Instead of arguing about dumb shit constantly how about we try to keep
each other up to date on what's going on across the system. Word is
Willard is closing in just a few weeks and they've already started
moving ice and pop machines out. Cleveland rumor is they're going to
hire after first of year if our new CEO Foote gives it the okay? Can
any one confirm any of this and get off this Amtrak bullshit that none
of us can employees care about

Name: Jj
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

By the time You see the sign your already speeding.  Hence you need to
know your track

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 December 2017

So where do they kind you don't need that sign equipment we know our
shit clowns Name: real RRoader --a.k.a L&N JBL and every 8 out of 10
entries here. So is it screw them clowns I'm a ridin' this bronco.
Safety chute ---Well I know my shit who needs it---roll bar hell I know
my shit who needs a roll bar? You sound as stupid here as when you go
off on trucks.

R2-1 70-MPH SPEED LIMIT H.I.P. Signs - 24x30 
Price: $49.95 Add Weather & Graffiti Protection (POF)--Only $21.95!

$700 bucks and no crash ---but you know your shit. Your a joke!!!

Name: real RRoader
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

pines

No one knows why you even come on here now. Your wife has been dead for
so long you think you would have moved on by now. Jesus Christ. First it
was years of boo hoo hoo over your wife's death because she couldn't
beat a train and now you got some new obsession with trying to tell all
of us what we have known for 30 years. We all know what happens our here
and we all know what we are supposed to do to do the job right. Its the
stupid ignorant morons who don't pay attention during their training
and are just lazy worthless train riders who get in trouble and usually
get fired or chastised so bad they eventually get it right.
Let me explain this to you. We know about the damn signs that aren't
right or aren't there. Get the latest edition of the FRA law book and
read up on where signs are mandatory and where they are not. Second we
all know the mile marker signs our here aren't accurate. We got a
small handful of markers used for measuring our speed in our timetables
where they actually went out and made sure they were a mile apart. We
got whistle post sign posted were there aren't any roads for them and
we got signs that don't even have the "W" on them because they are
faded off and no one gives a shit about painting them back. We got
timetables that have the wrong street names and we get EC1s to protect
crossings that don't even have gates. We got CP points with designated
miles on them that aren't even near where the accurate location is.
Some CPs are up to 1.5 miles from where the true mile post really is. 
So see Mr. Pines, we are all well aware of the stupid inept crap that
this company does but we learn and KNOW OUR DAMN TERRITORY! Because
that's what we are expected to do. we deal with their stupid crap and
information everyday. We don't need a damn sign to tell us where to
slow down or speed up because we learn our territories. If someone
doesn't know where a slow order or permanent speed starts its because
they didn't ask or their trainer was an idiot who didn't care one way
or the other. But I can tell you now that most guys our here take pride
in their training and most crews have at least one person in the seat
with them that wants their asses protected just as well. So get off the
sign thing and move on. We been dealing with sign and marker bullshit
for 30 years. It ain't ever going to change. They don't care and
frankly we don't either. We know our shit and we know what to do. Once
in awhile you just get an idiot out there. 
Now move on and find something better to rant and rave about.

CREWS!
Don't forget the fra law that your engine is supposed to be 60 degrees
at 6 inches above the center of each seat. Its getting cold as hell out
and don't be taking the motor if the heat isn't by FRA standard. We
all know how shitty those local motors can be and how bad the seals are
on the older ones. No one should be froze out this winter. CSX saved a
shit load of money with the old man dying out. Let them use some of
that money they already planned in their budget to pay the old man.
They can fix the crap we are using. No backing down on this one!

Name: Mr.Ed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 December 2017

Cornductor


Ihe company doesn't pay our bills.

You need to raise the bar.  Your boys would love this job?  I work out
here so my kids can better theirselves.  This place is fine for me not
my kids.  I would hope anyone with any expectations for their kids
would feel the same. 

You must be a real company suck ass

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 December 2017

Well Foamers and pines sez"""We don't need signs"""That has to be
the Guinness world record dumbest f--k statement ever.You must be one of
those baboons way down in the pocket by the railroads nut-sack huh?

Look at the hop scotch mile markers--crossing numbers---track owners on
this 14 mile POS line.
Barksdale a.ka.a 10 16 2017  TO: 0017.34  FROM:0007.59 DuPont Ave How
many trains per week? 4
47.090404,-122.6372638 Mile marker 18
Then the stupid f--ks leave a humped crossing to catch trucks for
probably $500,000.

Name: Foamers and pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 December 2017

Dumbasses. We know where our speeds start and stop by reading our time
table and learning our territory. We don't need signs because that
just allows people to pay less attention than they should. There are
alot of things we need to know out there, and knowing where you are is
imperative. Putting up signs let's lazy people pretend they know their
territory. You know nothing about the railroad that you fantasize about,
so please keep your 4th grader, Thomas the tank engine guesses to
yourself, and for god sakes, stop talking about amtrack on a csx site.
It makes you look dumber than you already are.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 December 2017

So Loco to be speeding one has to know their speeding there railroad
whore. The question would be how many morons on a train have to pass a
NO-Sign zone before they realize little baboons in the railroads pocket
have a perfect death trap and say "where the f--k are the speed signs?
Say 6 signs at 100 bucks would be $___.__? Now go out on the free-way
and look what real drivers use. 2.5 feet by 3 feet minimum for 70 mph
traffic per MUTCD.


http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=166546&start=45
For a better view of sign and damage starting 10 feet away about 1/2
way down. Too late sign two.

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Name: Mr.Ed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 December 2017

Car repair


Suck my donkey.

Name: Well?
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 December 2017

Where's my back pay?

Name: Loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 December 2017

Pine turd

Go lay down. No one said anything about setting the brakes. What was
said was engineer was speeding.  Fact. No more to be said. Taking the
curve at 80 without trying to take action could have been just as bad.
For your info we set full service all the time with no problems at
speeds up to 50. still doesn't matter. He was speeding! What part of
that don't you get. If he didn't know his territory he shouldn't
have been out there. Until the engineer makes a statement to press know
one knows for sure where his head was so just shut the fuck up.

Name: Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 December 2017

Conductor
This is a SAFETY site and you guys post anything but safety because
you're cowards!
Answer the freaking question mole. Does CSX warn train crews not to go
into emergency which can cause a Drailment? You won't say that because
it's criminal isn't it? You know some of you guys won't post on poor
safety as the site indicates because you're a MOLE misleading readers.
Hiding behind (aka) conductor doesn't change the fact you are a murder.
THATS what happened on Amtrak inst it? Funny how a non-railroader as
myself knows more about railroads than all you moles!

Name: Loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 December 2017

Pine turd

Go lay down. No one said anything about setting the brakes. What was
said was engineer was speeding.  Fact. No more to be said. Taking the
curve at 80 without trying to take action could have been just as bad.
For your info we set full service all the time with no problems at
speeds up to 50. still doesn't matter. He was speeding! What part of
that don't you get. If he didn't know his territory he shouldn't
have been out there. Until the engineer makes a statement to press know
one knows for sure where his head was so just shut the fuck up.

Name: Mr.Ex
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 December 2017

A lot of crews laid up in hotels.  You guys know you have to lay off if
you want to be home. No matter what day of the year it is.  You must be
a special kind of stupid if you work on Christmas for straight time and
sit in a hotel for free.

Name: Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 December 2017

Loco
You Idiot same thing happens to a CSX freighter as Amtrak and you know
that.
About 6 seconds before wreck the engineer hit the brakes at 80 mph the
cars start to fold causing the wheels to fall off, stopping the train.
Instead of the cars hitting the ditch and ballast to stop it fell off a
bridge. Engineers and conductors are warned about hitting the brakes and
Drailing. You are purposely misleading readers making you a corporate
MOLE. Tell me train crews are not warned about going into emergency
causing a Drailment or shut your lying pie hole.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 December 2017

http://www.king5.com/article/news/local/live-blog-amtrak-train-derailment-on-i-5-near-dupont/281-500363930

Just a little way down on right. Looks like the T-30 P-30 --I think T
is for Talgo whatever that means and P is passenger is like 10 feet
from where the curve wall gets scrunched from dragging train parts.
Kinda like putting a bridge out sign 10 feet from the plunge with
moving traffic.

http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=166546&start=45

For a better view of sign and damage starting 10 feet away about 1/2
way down.

Name: Amtrack and pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 December 2017

Who gives a fuck about amtrack? Pretty sure this site is called csx
sucks, not pines crybaby bullshit site about nothing. I think pines
needs to sit on the tracks and look at a train up close.

Name: Retired Conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 December 2017

Looks like Amtrak doesn't care about really qualifying any more than
CSX. Up to 6 engineers on the engine at night and conductors in the 2nd
unit at night I mean what could happen?

http://www.kiro7.com/news/south-sound-news/railroad-investigator-says-its-wrong-to-point-a-finger-at-train-engineer/668115816

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 December 2017

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/amtrak-crews-express-concerns-about-training-on-new-route-where-train-derailed/

...As the crew traveled south along the bypass route on Monday at close
to 80 mph, they would have passed a speed limit sign about 2 miles
before the curve. That sign, smaller than a speed-limit sign that
drivers would see alongside a freeway, sits in an open area along the
track, tilted at a 45-degree angle...

Found it. 5708 Wilmington Dr Dupont washington. Google map location
47.0913772,-122.633304 by 3rd white rail car. Says T-30 P-30. About as
big as a do not remove tag on a mattress.

Further proof that railroad safety is ran by little baboons deep in the
railroads pocket that need to be set free.

Name: loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 December 2017

Pines imposter

So now you have given up your cry baby activation failures after years
of coming on here and blaming your dead wife's pitiful ending on
everyone else.  So your new obsession is what now? L&N and what else?
Please tell all of us so we know what your will be ranting about for
the next 10 years.   THE GUY WAS SPEEDING!  What part of that don't
you get. No one knows why he was doing it but him. If he knows his damn
territory and knows his track tables then he just lost it, wasn't
paying attention  or what ever. The fact is he was speeding and all the
other crap you spout off wont make a damn difference.  So move on to
something else. What point are you trying to make. The damn guy was
speeding!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 December 2017

Well: APE, for Less than 1 year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv8PEG0hcbQ

According to this person it was Engine---passenger cars---2nd engine on
back pushing---Guess this configuration was used for the good accordion
effect.Then why would a second engine be needed for a few passenger
cars.

Apparently there is a phone app for Amtrak speed. They were saying 82
mph which would be speeding to start with right so the NTSB fixed that
with data recorder of 78 mph. But then train crews can't use the app
because they can't carry phones.

The I-5 overpass Crossing 085839A  Google map 47.0821204,-122.6755991
off of FRA inventory. Same graffiti as news coverage on overpass. BNSF
took over track in January. 0 trains and speed limit of 10 mph. The 10
mph is the only thing they could go by to me. So some Federal reporting
violations there.

If you follow the tracks On Google map there is another big curve on
the other side of I-5 then another where these tracks join a double
track which could be switched. So the whole area would be SLOW.

Wonder what the data recorders on the trial runs show???

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 December 2017

Pines
Come on man get off the egg nog you're smarter than this!
How fast was Amtrak going? You're taking Amtraks word for it.
Did Amtrak Drail before the 30mph curve?
How did engine 1 Drail skip engine 2 then Drail cars? You know the
answer! How do you stop a train? It's just this time they tried to
stop on an overpass.
PTC: you gonna try and tell me PTC wasn't installed which would have
slowed the train or did the TPC lock the train down causing a Drail?
Watch all these accidents they are a way to sale TPC under the guise of
Drailing public transportation paid for by the people.
TPC is a fore runner eliminating one guy in the engine.
TPC is a forrunner to high speed remote freight trains.
Who owns the track?
Who is going to pay for suits and why?
Once again who caused the Drail? Human error not the railroad.
Who is the media getting their info from? Their own investigation?
Amtrak? Local yocall. Or maybe the Associated Press who are on
railroads pocket? Look at most articles which state the Associated
Press contributed.
Distraction????? Geesish you're going 80 mph into a 30 mph curve and
you're going to be distracted???? 
Who got the Black Box and video off the train?
Are you going to try and tell us a track is going to take you from 80
mph to 30 mph without warnings? You don't need a slow down sign this
is why you have a Signal System!!!! The engineer would have had to blow
the restrictive signal with Dispatcach watching for this to happen! 
I would tell my FRA Director this but he'd just fire me.

Name: Nip it
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 December 2017

So, you shareholders are now talking about suing the board due to HH and
his medical condition?
LOL!
Everyone knew about the shape he was in, and YOU still voted him in.
Why?Ö Because you're greedy assholes who thought this was your big
opportunity to cash in on Hunter's "magic", and feed the Unions a
big shit sandwich in the process.
Well, I love to be the bearer of bad news, and it looks to me like
you're going to be taking a bite out of the shit sandwich too. ( Maybe
that 14% business tax cut will offset the taste in your mouth)
Pay particular attention to the part where the lawyers talk about the
difficulty you will face in your endeavors.

Just remember 3 VERY important things, asswipesÖ
 
1) 99.9% of you are NOT smarter than the corporate lawyers.

2) You DO NOT have enough money, or the balls, to go into a long term
legal battle with the Chicken Shit Express.

And the MOST important thing of allÖ

3) Don't leave home without plenty of mouthwash.

Merry Christmas!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-csx-stocks/csx-stock-stabilizes-after-ceo-death-investors-seek-turnaround-clarity-idUSKBN1EC1H7

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 December 2017

http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/articles/2017/12/22/derailed-train-new-route-distraction-12-22-17

So Amtrak let's see if you can do the math for a three year old. If
Amtrak Joe running the train which would be ONE was training Amtrak
Jack which would be ONE ---How many would be in the cab of the Amtrak?
The formula is 1 + 1 =?

You sleep with L@N and his momma is why you care? Looking at his
comments as JBL he's a raciest woman hater who gets made look stupid
all over on many things.



Name: Amtrak 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 December 2017

Pines  
You talk more crap and know nothing about how anything works. If 2
people would be in the lead loco this shit wouldn't happen. Been using
one engineer in front a long time. Conductor working in cars. Your pot
shot at L&N again just shows your petty immature nasty side as usual.
For the love of God grow up.

Name: On to a better life
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 December 2017

Saw the writing on the wall when Eugene and Mr.Ed took over. 
I got out as things were beginning to go south (Good opportunity
presented itself at the perfect time). 

I looked at the Mainframe a couple times a week until they locked me
out. Pure madness how often things were changing on the GL. Would be
interested to see it now.

Name: .
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 December 2017

Are we all marking off Christmas?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 December 2017

Such a stand up company CSX is. Forcing their employees to work
Christmas Day. Thereís a special place in hell for the people that make
these decisions.

Name: jim
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 December 2017

fuck hunter harrison

Name: Amtrak 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 December 2017

Pines  
You talk more crap and know nothing about how anything works. If 2
people would be in the lead loco this shit wouldn't happen. Been using
one engineer in front a long time. Conductor working in cars. Your pot
shot at L&N again just shows your petty immature nasty side as usual.
For the love of God grow up.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 December 2017

Dear Retired NS & Conrail,  thank you for your blessings to us on CSX.

May you have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year as well.

We will need it.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 December 2017

So do trains have speed limit signs along the tracks? The <<< >>> signs
around the curves?

http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/articles/2017/12/22/derailed-train-new-route-distraction-12-22-17

I see the dirty Feds are trying to turn the Amtrak tragedy in
Washington state as a way to get rid of two person crews PLUS downplay
a big part of the lawsuit which will be the missing set of eyes as a
"distraction". These two in the train cab playing chew the peg or
what? Is this jury tampering "might of been" even legal on a open
investigation? The UTU should be all over this with a class action
lawsuit calling them worthless dis-tractors. Kinda reminds me of the
L@N clown that hangs here.

Just looking at Washington State Amtrak tragedy.

Crossing 085839A  Google map 47.0821204,-122.6755991 off of FRA
inventory. Same graffiti as news coverage on overpass. Fra shows BNSF
took over track in January. 0 trains and speed limit of 10 mph. The 10
mph is the only thing they could go by to me. The Google Street view of
the curve from the next overpass shows a rotten mess five years ago.
How much can a 30 mph flashing sign facing the train cost?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 December 2017

to conductor,30+ yrs,21 dec 2017,
ref: mean spirited message posted 21 dec 2017

you ask why my message was mean spirited and posted on all
boards.ol'eugene was a mean sob that screwed you csx folks over and cn
also. i only spoke the truth. why is the funeral festivities info quiet?
csx has you folks so job scared it is really sad.hopefully the new ceo
will treat
you folks better.you folks need ol'eugene's funeral info to line up
and piss on his corpse "precision railroad style"with maximum volume
and no wasted time in line.enough said here.

Name: Retired NS & Conrail
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 December 2017

Merry Christmas to all CSX employees.  You have made it through a very
tough time.  I know the NS employees were worried when Ackman & EHH had
their sites on our company.  There are many railroaders in the U.S. and
Canada who read this site and have felt your pain since EHH took over. 
Heres hoping 2018 and beyond is brighter for all of you.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 December 2017

DUH

https://www.google.com/search?q=30+mph+flashing+sign&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS703US703&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=eAWuOXS0XUL-yM%253A%252CD2rAgfB5toKIEM%252C_&usg=__qdJb1svYwAwjU17OHTqBHfAHFio%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwir7vSqsZzYAhVC04MKHQ57Cb0Q9QEIRDAF#imgrc=eAWuOXS0XUL-yM:

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 December 2017

I don't want to get anyone fired up but I was wondering if other
departments are working Christmas holidays, VP of mechanical sent out e
mail all mechanical operations will work through the holiday to better
serve our customers.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 December 2017

1st thought of mine is a question:  why bombard each & every
forum\section of this site with the same mean spirited message?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 December 2017

ol' eugene now burning in hell and sucking the devil's precision rail
and getting devil's old rail up his ass. ol' eugene getting his karma
now. you guys didn't lose anything at all. hopefully the new ceo will
be better and not run over top of you.
   i notice no public notice of his funeral or burial/cremation
festivities. is csx/harrison family afraid someone will steal his
corpse and abuse it/mutilate it or piss on it like the george pullman
family back in 1898 when the sob george pullman died?george pullman was
the hunter harrison of the 1890's to his railcar employees and did them
shitty. his casket and vault was put in a wire cage and covered with
much concrete to prevent digging up by the pissed of people he done
wrong.any thoughts here?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 December 2017

Medicine man
Smuggling drugs by rail is a small adventure. Now that you're on track
see how easy it is to ship a nuclear war head to any sinding in the U.S.
or Canada undetected. America is in trouble and the only way to stop it
unfortunately is to shut down our boarders which doesn't fit the One
World Order scheme. Make America Great Again! If you are corporate you
know you can ship anything, anywhere by telephone.

Name: numbutt
E-mail: duh duh dot duh
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 December 2017

#1...Why dose CSX lie?
#2...Why dose CSX cheat?
#3...Why does CSX treat the employees like dog turds?
#4...Why does CSX spike a switch on a spur that hasn't been used in 45
years?
#5...Why does CSX not put Kim Bongiaovani in as President?

Pinenuts 111 sticks.. The best CSX suck hole ever !

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 December 2017

XLC

I worked the road for 34 years before taking a yard assignment on a
pusher the last couple years before retiring. Most of guys I knew that
made the yard a career hated overtime. They started working the yard
back in the '70s & '80s when you had early quits. Those are gone. I
figured if I had to stay at least 7 1/2 hours might as well stay for as
much as you can get. Plus having 2 days off a week was a new experience.
Sorry to hear they don't double over anymore. But, that was a trick
TM's did to not have to report OT to division HQ & JAX. If I didn't
work over on a regular assignment they would use us on a temporary
assignment job number. Seemed every time they said "no OT" before we
went to work it happened. Go figure.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 December 2017

I worked in Walbridge Yard in Ohio on the ground back in the '70s. I
was stuck on the RR trapped snowed in for 3+ days at the Arrival Yard
during the Blizzard of '78 till the National Guard dug us out. We had
to ration food for 9 people going into the 2nd day seeing it didn't
look like it would ever end. All that was left was saltine crackers,
lucky pipes didn't freeze for water, and plenty of coffee. I know
about the cold. Swept many of switches when I was furloughed during the
winter to get a few days in.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 December 2017

It's 14% and will go to the hedge fund.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 December 2017

CSX gets a 16% tax cut.  Will they Hire?  Spend it on R&D?  Give better
raises?

Name: MedicineMan
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 December 2017

Answer these 10 questions:
1. What CSX trains are smuggling drugs?
2. Where do the trains make the transfers of drugs.
3. What are the train cars / trailers / containers used to smuggle
drugs?
4. Who are the CSX drug dealers?
5. Who are the CSX drug users?
6. List the names of everyone you know who does drugs in the yards.
7. Are you are drug user/dealer?
8. What are the names of the Cartels who use CSX for drug
transportation?
9. What are the names of the motor cycle gangs who distribute the drugs
obtained from CSX trains. 
10.  What is your name, address, and phone number so that we can
contact you if needed.  

Please help us prevent the spread of drugs by CSX criminal employees.
Save a life.  Thank you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 December 2017

Maybe since Foote has a background in sales and marketing he will bring
back the market share we lost.  He should also go off Warren Buffets
playbook and open some humps back up and hire like all other class 1
railroads.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 December 2017

If you like over time that's ok. You must work down south where it's
warm. Try coming to buffalo and being forced to work 12 hour days when
it's 20į out side wind blowing at 20mph and it's snowing. On top of
that sweeping switches of snow, walking in knee deep snow with those
heavy anti slip boots. Then the fuck you with the 20 minute lunches. So
basically your out in the cold for about 11 hours. Another classy move
is when they ask you " do you want OT"and you say no and then they
force you to stay anyways.i like to see some of these buffalo
Yardmaster and trainmaster work the ground for a week and see how it is
getting fucked.

Name: XLC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 December 2017

RRjim

Not getting a new ticket and 4hr claim any longer, haven't for a few
years now. Just forcing jobs to work over on original ticket.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 20 December 2017

Our sales rep told me CSX has lost hundreds of millions in business,
hard to get a handle on just how much volume walked away.

I don't want to be complacent or anything, are we really sure old
Eugene really assumed room temperature ? Is it verified ?....Even so,
it might be worth while if someone went to check and at least poke him
with a stick, we all know Ghouls, Vampires and werewolves have a nasty
habit of coming back to life.

Best wishes to all of you at CSX, the employees and customers have
taken so much abuse from asshole Hunter and his circumcision
railroading, his kicking the bucket was a great Christmas present, god
bless us one and all.....ding dong the which is dead !

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 December 2017

What's wrong with working 12 hour shifts? I liked overtime. Especially
on a 5 day yard assignment. Terminal I worked in if they didn't have
anyone on the extra board they would call to see if I wanted to work
over. Hell Yeah, another time ticket 4 hours for 8 hours pay at
punitive rate. They did that to show no OT. This happened 1-2 times a
week. My regular 5 day pusher job it made quite a bit of OT.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 December 2017

They call extra jobs all the time off the extraboard in buffalo. They
cut like 5 yard jobs here in the last few months. Then they call the
extra at different times and  job symbols. They do that cause I believe
if they call a extra everyday for 5 days at the same time and job number
they have to put it on as as a regular job . Problem in buffalo nobody
wants to work the extraboard, it calls for 6 and we usually only have 2
people on it.they could solve that problem by force assigning Jr
employees, but mangers here are lazy and don't want to push the issue
with crew management. So what you get is managers bitching they can't
fill the jobs and fuck crews everyday to work 12 hours in the cold and
snow

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 December 2017

You would think but he makes sure the time is always different.  He's
got something coming.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 December 2017

Sounds like something the union should be addressing

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 December 2017

This dick in Louisville calls these jobs of the extraboard all damn week
instead of putting them on regular.  Precision scheduling railroading
ain't so precision.

Name: numbutt
E-mail: duh duh dot duh
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 December 2017

Pinenuts is wanted for RCO interception. Was nutsy in Washington?   Yea,
 smoking pot.   Come on man ! Who spiked  Pine's nuts?

Name: 
E-mail: Www.enjoyyourretirementuoldpri
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 December 2017

Did anyone else read the article that Hunter contracted a illness the
week before his death while doing one of his famous " You do it my way
or you will be fired Hunter Camps"  so I bet someone had a cold or
something and the old prick caught the cold! My bet is he got a cold
and turned into Pneumonia. The worst thing that can happen to someone
who has a lung disease and on oxygen is getting pneumonia.i wonder if
the person  who gave it to Hunter infected him on purpose!!! If he did
do it on purpose we should erect a statute of this manager sneazing on
a statue of hunter (of course the statue would have his oxygen
tank),and we make the day he died a csx holiday!!!

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 December 2017

Conductor 10-20

They were micro managing before I retired in 2010. Last 2 years I
worked a pusher job that they used for switching etc... when there was
no trains to shove. One afternoon we had to switch out a few tracks for
a local. A TM came out screwing with the ground crew. I got off the
locomotive went back to see what was happening. He was telling them how
to switch. Seeing the conductor only had a little more than a year plus
a conductor trainee he had them flustered. We had a job briefing it
would take 1 1/2 hours or so to get it done. The TM's way it would of
been 4-6 hours. After he left I told them let's do it his way. It'll
never get finished. It didn't. Let them micro manage. Everyday we got
to work it was no overtime. lol. I made OT just about everyday. If I
would of known I could make 60+ hours in a 5 day week in the yard I
would of left the road years ago.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 December 2017

I'll tell you how to protect a shove on tracks that are not coupled
up....
Give him exactly what he wants. While you're doing it sit there and
ask yourself why managers that don't have experience on the ground
tell us to do things a specific way? Why can't they just say grab this
cut of car and a switch list and go to work? 

When I take a shit, I know that I have to wipe my ass and I know how to
do it. There are at least 6 ways to wipe your ass and they all work. I
can go front to back, back to front, sitting down, standing up, with a
combination of toilet paper and wet wipes, and last but not least my
favorite, circular motion. 

We don't need managers to tell us a specific way to railroad when
there are a lot of ways that all work. Why not let us pick what works
for us and leave us alone? 

They like to micro manage us, so give them what they want and when it
fails maybe their superiors will start to question them.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 December 2017

The superintendent in Louisville must be stupid.  When needed he wants
an rco job to drive to the north end of the bowl tracts to protect the
shove.  These tracks aren't coupled up.  How do you protect a shove on
a track that's not coupled up.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 December 2017

today's Wall Street Journal (MONDAY 12-18-017) has several articles
related to EHH and his lack of a pre employment physical. Just FYI.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for N/A
Posted: 18 December 2017

What happen with tm Raine and clerk Sue? Where they boning?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 December 2017

We want Ward back

Name: Retired Conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 December 2017

The Amtrak train that derailed in Washington was going 80 mph in a 30
mph curve. Its ok though, the conductor in the third car was qualified
even if the engineer wasn't.

Name: numbutt
E-mail: duh duh dot duh
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 December 2017

Pinenuts is a complicated CSX retred. Intermodal is going down.

Boxcars or nothing.  Learn to offload/onload from the side.

Name: Chuga Chuga
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 December 2017

Covered @ 51.42. Sure wish I knew his condition on thursday. I'll look
for more opportunities.

Name: Captain Crunch Berries 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 December 2017

Well I guess what they need to do is put old HH in an old MOW gondola
and have him tour around csx properties so everyone can pay their
respect to  him and when he starts smelling funny fill up the gon with
dirt and have Jack Vierling store the car somewhere never to be seen
again would that be considered a load or empty oh well.

Name: Mr.Ed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 December 2017

CSX withheld information on EHH's health form investors.  Someone needs
to go to prison for this.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 December 2017

To all the wall street bankers and investors... I guess you wont be
cashing out millions after all. You all seen how Hunter took CP stock
and Quadrupled it and made millionaires out of alot of people and you
scumbags wanted to get in on it. Guess what cash out your tens of
thousands of dollars and go ruinother people's lives,leave us csx
employees alone.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 December 2017

I guess I gotta buy a round trip plane tickets to Florida now, cause i
always said i piss on his grave when he droped dead.i wonder How many
Hunter haters will show up to his wake and funeral to tell all the
people there to Mourning his death what a rotten prick he was.

Name: not fooled
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 December 2017

NUMBUTT

Last post from poser pines(pinenuts)didn't have damn thing in it about
intermodal.  All about the investors.  So go take your bull crap
distraction attempt back to the csx rock you crawled out of and tell
them you failed. I wonder what test failure you will get for this one! 
The king is gone and everyone hated him. So get over it. The people will
tell it how it is and post what's happening.

Name: numbutt
E-mail: duh duh dot duh
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 December 2017

Intermodal is one boxcar on the back of a truck.   Pinenuts says.

Name: GD
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 December 2017

Other


Before you post why don't you try googling the rules for flying a flag
at half staff. The private sector, business or not can chose to fly
their flags at half staff to honor someone they feel was a leader,
highly respected mentor, etc.  Not saying the flag should be lowered
for one of the most hated man in RR history as far as I know but you
need to educate yourself before you try to file a complaint and look
like an idiot.

Name: Chuga Chuga
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 December 2017

Premarket order 


In short 1,000 shares @ 52.15 

Lets see what happens

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 December 2017

WTF

I didn't say not to sell your CSX stock. Only thing I said was people
shouldn't wish for a massive sell off. Better yet that Mantle Ridge
doesn't pull their investment. I sold mine in increments this year
after nearly 30 years of investing in CSX. I'm retired and decided to
look for better dividend stocks. CSX in the $50s @ $.20 a share wasn't
getting it. It was a difficult thing to sell something you've owned for
nearly 30 years. At my age income growth seems more important. Get that
extra money to travel etc... without touching the original investment.

Name: Stand
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 December 2017

Just got called to work at my terminal.  Flags at half staff.  I went
out and raised them back up.  Letís see what happens now.

Name: Hugh Jorgan
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 December 2017

Mr. Ed

You've been quiet this weekend.  I was wondering how things were going
around the barn yard?  Do you plan to advise mr.foot with your vast
knowledge of railroading?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 December 2017

Reverse hump operations are dangerous all over the system not just
Louisville.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 December 2017

The puppet master is gone, will James Foote be the new puppet master or
a true CEO. Will our trainmasters continue to be puppets? Looks like
Louisville will be the terminal that sets the example by the way it
sounds, lets hope system wide everyone else will sack up and do the
same. Keep us updated.

Name: Stand your ground Louisville 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 December 2017

The superintendent at the Osborn Yard is as big of a chump as anyone on
the system, when he left the last place he was at the employees busted
out all of his windows. This 3 foot 8 inch chump is a snake and ain't
worth the dirt I piss on.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 December 2017

The superintendent in Louisville has been forewarned of those concerns
and has refused to address them.

Name: Hunter's Grave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 December 2017

Question: Who's pissing on Hunter's grave? Seriously, I've seen many
posts in reference to this. There should be a long line, judging from
recent posts. I'll go first! You all can follow. I challenge all, to
really saturate that grave site (probably in Florida), with
piss!!!!!!!!! Please post grave site, if you know.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 December 2017

This is no joke, are they blaming the crew or the CEO for making us
completely change the way we work with no one ever teaching proper
technique or having a single class about how we should do things under
PSR? Wait I already know the answer, it's always the crews fault not
the dumb as shit operating procedures that were forced on us.

Name: This is no joke 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 December 2017

This is no joke the flag at the hump tower in louisville was and
probably still is at half staff, saw it with my own eyes. As far as
respecting local managers, theres no way you can even give them the
benefit of doubt when they have us working with a operations plan that
has no rules or procedures, i.e. kicking cars at one end of the bowl
(3500 ft. tracks max) while another pulling job triple or quadruples 80
ro 90 racks at the other end.....we do it everyday like sheep, trying to
keep up so rhey keep.the doors open hopeing nothing happens. Well
yesterday somrhing did, we r damn luckey one of our own wasnt killed
last night he bailed off 100 feet before the hopper he was rideing
tipped, 3 employees are out of service all because....well youguys tell
me

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2017

HA, there is no fee for these transactions, I have bought and sold CSX
stock several times through Empower Retirement which is what about 90%
of CSX employees have.

Name: HA
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

WTF

How much is the broker fee for selling your stock. What is the fee for
buying it?????? How much will you lose to sell as verses just sitting
on it and letting it come back up?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2017

flip the csx flag upside down, universal sigh of distress

Name: hey you
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

Everybody mark off bereavement for Christmas. Our condolences for our
fallen leader. WO KO

Name: Ben Dover
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

http://www.usflag.org/nff.half.staff.html

Here's your answer!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2017

Only the president or governor can order that.  Someone should call the
local news.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

Surely someone is joking saying the flag is at half-mast in Louisville. 
If that is true then I have no idea how anyone there could respect
management or take the seriously.

Name: Combat vet
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

It could not be any more disrespectful to the men and women that deserve
our flag flown at half mast. Hunter Harrison has done absolutely nothing
for this country to deserve the honor of the U.S. Flag flown at half
mast. At least 90% of CSX employees hate this guy, we should not honor
a guy that damn near destroyed our company. Any flag flown at half mast
for Harrison should be burned and replaced with an untainted new flag.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 December 2017

Yeah, maybe. But 80% or more of managers are awful too. Can have
hassles/issues/problems with good leaders for a variety of reasons.
Been that way for a long, long time. That will probably never change.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

Trainmasters post under courteous and professionalism, please read it.
He is absolutely right about at least 20% of us. There are plenty of us
very undeserving of our job and don't even earn their check.
Trainmasters like this guy actually distinguishes between shit
employees and good employees vs treating everyone as a warm body to
move cars. Everyone is different and should be treated accordingly to
how you act at work. I like this trainmaster, whoever it is. I would
say he treats his good employees good and in turn they treat him good.

Name: lol
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

Pay raises are in place back pay by Jan 31st.   New system notice.

Name: This guy
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 December 2017

The flags at osborn yard are at half mast today, just thought everybody
would think that was as funny as i did. WTF

Name: Retired Conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 December 2017

You have to love the line in the CSX statement "The entire CSX family
mourns this loss."
 1/10 of 1/100 of the CSX family mourns. That's around 30 people.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

HH is gone! CSX Transportation Employees morale is at the bottom of the
barrel! Hopefully the Board of Directors look long and hard for a CEO
that is more Customer and Employee Friendly and not, "My Way or The
Highway Mentality!"  Merry Christmas to all!! And hopefully a better
New Year ahead!  I cant help but thing of the Wizard of Oz, "Ding Dong
the Wicked Witch is dead"

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

That's right co 10-20. I couldn't have said it better myself! They all
want to make their money back, and this will shake up the board a bit.
It should be a turning point for the ones that know it wasn't working.
Even the cp and can guys he brought on. They might not feel the same
without uncle hunters intimidation. Think about it. These guys aren't
his friends. They are just more guys that lived through his
intimidation at previous rrs. He probably belittled every one of them
dozens of times. They were doing what he said because they wanted to
impress him, and thought they'd get on his good side. 

Do you think he would have brought them if he didn't have someone he
wanted to replace? He just knew they were more obedient, and that's
why the others had to go! They weren't Hunter rules compliant. 

Also correct as to what we have to do now. There's going to be a lull
in operating decisions at first, and that's when we need to band
together and let the Hunter managers know now, that the old style
railroaders are still here. That they might not want to tangle with
wounded t&e brothers.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

I'm really hoping everyone is on board with this. It is time to set our
future in our favor. I wouldn't call it bullying, I would say it's
just letting everyone know it's our railroad. They don't have
anything without us. Let these managers know we're in charge. Tell all
your coworkers, get the word out quick! 
Lets go brothers! Knock em back a peg while the new plan is developing.
I think it's safe to say that the investors might see that things
aren't exactly working out, and there's no "railroading icon" to
offend to sway their opinions. It's clearly a day of saying, man,
maybe this was a stupid plan, let's make our money back. I believe by
Summer, there will be an entirely different agenda, and maybe Foote
will make a name for himself by turning things around instead of this
psrr failure.

Name: LOCO
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

Whatever intimidation tactics you managers learned at Hunter Camp you
better forget or there will be major problems. We are in position to
take it all back. We out number you and we outsmart you. There are not
enough of you to run the railroad even if you knew how.

Name: WTF
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2017

Read what the guy listed as "Suckers" wrote, this guy knows what he is
talking about, just wait and see. His prediction it spot on or very
close to what will happen.

Name: WTF
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2017

This is to the guy that thinks he is investor savvy and calling everyone
morons......

You sir are an idiot! It takes about 48 hours to buy or sell a stock
depending on what day of the week it is. If you have 100 shares right
now and the stock price is $54.00 and you keep it knowing it will drop
to $44.00 because you are in it for the long haul and you know it will
bounce back then you are an idiot! Why not sell at $54.00 wait till it
hits $44.00 then buy it back? You are such an idiot on this topic,
please don't give advice to anyone about investing you moron! My God
how can someone be this stupid? 

To RRJIM, this part is for you, why are we cutting off our own feet by
selling? Should we keep our money in CSX stock knowing it will fail,
knowing we will loose our retirement? Why to help CSX stay afloat? Let
it fail please, we can all buy back in at record lows and ride the
return back to the top. If CSX stock tanks then there would be
investors lined up to take over and bring it back to life buy undoing
everything from the past year. CSX is an excellent candidate now for a
turn around, all that has to be done is revert back to Michael Wards
operating plan, or anything similar that involves actually getting and
keeping customers. RRJIM, the other guy gets the idiot of the year
award but you are a very close runner up.

Name: Reality Check
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

HH said....."I'll eat the spaghetti"!  Looks like he choked on it.
Failure as a lasting legacy to an arrogant asshole is Karma at its
finest. Over 300 million to a dead man creeping hopefully will be
taught in business schools as one of the dumbest stupidass decisions of
all times.

Ed Kelly, go find your balls and tell Foote and the rest of the
Hunterasslickers to throw that PSRR HORSESHIT in the trash and unfuck
this mess or they can go back to CN or CP where they came from and
worship at the altar of a man burning in Hell right now. Wick Moorman
just retired from Amtrak. He knows how to run a bowl of spaghetti. His
successor and NS are doing just fine. The only part of PSRR that worked
was sending business to the competition. CSX employees and customers
have had enough of HHs "guru legacy". I hope HHs last words as the
Grim Reaper put his arm around him was, "I FAILED"!!

Name: seasoned
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 December 2017

New day

You must be a new guy.  If you weren't then you know the company has
been doing this for years before EHH ever came around. They always find
a way to cut ex boards and pools and keep people off the payroll any
chance they get especially around the holidays. If you pay attention to
the pattern over the years you would see that. They will cut the extra
board and then let the guys who are bumped and cant hold a spot sit
there and rot until they decide to create a spot for them. They will
make sure they are not available the day before, of or after the
holiday so they cant claim holiday pay. They always expect guys to lay
off for the holidays so they know they can use a few as they need them.
They also know the industries lay in on Christmas holiday and some on
New years so they aren't worried about being a few days behind on
deliveries. A lot of industries close down for inventory time at the
end of the year to get ready for taxes. They have been doing this for
years. They always chop the boards when winter starts. This is nothing
new. Every single furloughed guy was called back that was in the
greatlakes division. They came back or they didn't answer their
letters or phones. Some moved and didn't leave a forwarding address.
Not siding with what EHH did across the system but the manpower
shortage this year would have happened anyway. CSX does this every
stinking year as soon as Thanksgiving hits! Screw men out of holiday
pay. Make them work one day around Christmas but never enough to get
holiday pay. The only thing that ever brings everyone back is a
blizzard.

Name: Invest
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2017

MORONS

What the hell is wrong with you people. You obviously don't know a
thing about investing or the stock markets.  The stock will drop
because of fear and stupidity with henny penny. The sky is falling...
the sky is falling.  What you don't know will hurt the idiots that
dump!  It will never fall below what is was before EHH came in. It will
stable out sooner than you think. Those of you who invest for the long
haul and don't play penny stocks know this. Its the idiots that don't
know a thing about playing the long haul game. Don't listen to these
idiots.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 December 2017

My condolences to Mr. Harrisons family. 

Anyone wanting the stock to crash with massive sell offs is cutting off
their own foot. Investors give corporations a cash lifeline. What
happens now? Mantle Ridge pulling out the $1 billion it invested? Stock
could get cut in half. I sold all my CSX stock which I've bought &
owned for decades while working this year at a healthy profit. I'd buy
back in if hits back in the $20's & '$30s. Mike Wards people are gone.
I don't know anything about Foote. Today there's no CEO on CSX. The
BOD could appoint Foote as acting CEO till they make a decision. It's
a wait & see.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2017

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CSX/holders?p=CSX

Being stock stupid how does Mantle Ridge have only 106 shares one day
then click on Mantle Ridge and in the billions the next day which
included sale of stock.Did EXHH pay for 300,000 shares or railroads pay
a year ahead?

Where does one find the copy of these ponzi checks?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2017

Hunter is dead!! Hell yeah! Rot in hell scumbag

Name: ADVICE for Mr. Foote
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 December 2017

Mr. Foote, Please take the time to check out what everyone is saying
about your late friend Hunter on social media. Despite your rosy
memories of Ewing, He is/was a VERY HATED man. A lot of the job cuts he
made went way beyond what was necessary, a lot of the changes he made
were out of malevolence against the working men, and the unions. He had
very little regard for the personal harm he caused for so many people,
communities, and even our very own customers. I urge you not to follow
his path, but instead to be a voice of reason and compassion when
dealing with the employees that make this company successful. An army
divided is doomed to failure. But a company that is united can form a
great empire!

Name: Ben Dover
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Never ever bet on a half dead horse to win the race!
Never bet against Karma! She never has lost a race!
Never use intimidation against your players to get them
to play better ball! Pissing off your players that add value
to your team will not work in the long run.
Never sell your sole to the devil for a dollar!(Henchmen)

If PSR was such a great operating plan then why aren't all
the other Class 1 railroads doing it? It doesn't take a genius
to do what EHH did. As a matter of fact it doesn't even take
a heart!

If I were a betting man I'd say EHH was dead before they ever
made the announcement of his leave Thursday. Just a little tactical 
move to save face. 

Stay Tuned! I'll bet SHTF this next week!

God Save CSX!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 December 2017

Harrisonís name carried the premium him and hilal mantle ridge have been
together a long time with cp and csx 
Now he has to trust Foote someone heís only known a month with billions
of investor money on the line investors will be spooked customers still
not happy winter is here employees will push back the place will be in
turmoil this stock goes to 0.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

If they work us Christmas they will see push-back like never before.

Name: Chuga Chuga
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Gona try shorting this stock in pre-market Monday IF I can catch this
falling knife BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAA.....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Lets make national news gentleman! We know what to do, it starts
tonight. Make sure you dump all stock by Monday because it will keep
plummeting. If you haven't yet then you already lost big, don't
expect to regain it get out before you lose it all. If you have FMLA
use it, if you have dailies or personal days use them, if you can mark
of sick and not move up a step in caps then do it. If you have to be at
work then be 100% rules compliant to see how much gets done. Don't help
out any other crews, definitely don't do the work of another craft
especially bleeding cars off it is not your job to be a conductor and a
carman, they don't pay you to be a carman. Report and damaged cars that
have to be sent to the shop, don't just let them ride. If a draw bar is
to hard to move because it hasn't been greased since April then don't
move it, get help.

Name: na
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 December 2017

Finra


Your absolutely right. He was on life support at the time of the
announcement. Everyone in management in the yard new about it.

Name: TMAN
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

There is absolutely no better time than now to take our railroad back!
If you want what we lost back now is our chance. Remember when the
managers actually respected us and would damn near beg us to get the
work done? Remember when they would give out thanks awards if we got
the work caught up? They bought food on occasion. Remember quits and
free boots? Remember when we had the upper hand and they knew it so
they were not jackasses that constantly threatened us. Remember when
you could show up to work and do your job and your job alone without
being watched and harassed. Remember when we could be inside the cab of
a moving locomotive when it was 20 degrees or raining or sunny and 75?
Remember when we showed up to work and wasn't rushed out of the locker
room within 5 minutes of our on duty time and when minutes came we got
an actual lunch break, not a short 20 minutes and then they were
calling and harassing us? We worked a lot of 6 hour days and got more
done with way less effort before, we also had almost twice as many
customers and almost twice the amount of work.

Name: Push back
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 December 2017

It's time we make a point, and quick. These managers need a heavy dose
of intimidation to put the power where it belongs. We're running this
show. Show em things changed now that Hitler Harrison shit the bed!
Turn them f#*!in tables, push back, get the message across like real
railroaders used to do! A dozen sliced hoses, a disabled trainmaster
truck, maybe see a manager outside of work and make a point, maybe we
can be the ones in the weeds when they're out in the field. Be
creative. Let's adjust some attitudes.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Brevement unavailabile for grandparents and aunts but now available for
uncles.. how you going to mark off dead on payday weekend ? After they
bury uncle hunter can we start unburying our engines and cars out of
storage so we can move freight?

Name: Dman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

I agree lets take it back, take a stand, nows the time, stability is
shaky, and managers that have been harassed can be swayed, its worth a
shot the all powerful oz is no more, just a man behide a curtain.

Name: Finra
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 December 2017

I'd wager the old man was dead or on life support when they announced
his "medical leave."  That way they could stagger the hit to the
stock and buy mantle ridge, or at least certain individuals, a trading
day to bail on their shares before they pulled the plug on HH.  The
timing of his death/incapacitation, the announcement of his "leave,"
and certain share sales are worthy of investigation.

Name: Nip It
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

To all of the shareholders that voted to bring HH in:

 I sincerely hope that you're feeling like like the IDIOTS that you
truly are.
384 million for less than a years worth of work is a lot of money, but
I'm sure you IDIOTS probably think that it was worth it.
Whatever it takes to rationalize your greed, go for it. 
I hope you lose your azz on the decision you've made.

Now, go back to your villages.

Name: Dwight Shrute
E-mail: dwhite@yahoo.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Hip-Hip-Hooray!

Hunter is DEAD!  The man who only thought of his bonus and the
shareholders all the while screwing over thousands of Brothers and
Sisters industry wide.

Enjoy your dirt nap you old geezer.  You gonna spend your cash on the
other side?  Don't forget your nasal cannula.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 December 2017

Now youíll really see the stock plummet look out below

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 December 2017

I believe this is applicable right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 December 2017

MERRY EARLY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!

Name: Bye you sob 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

HH IS DEAD !!!!!!!

Name: Monty Burns
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Do you anti-union guys really think that without unions the railroads
would compete for workers with higher wages and benefits? You are
fools. There are only a few class one railroads. They would colude with
each other to keep wages low. These CEOs and hedge funds that own all
industries only care about the bottom line. There is no competition,
only the same puppet masters pulling different strings.

Name: The Wizard
E-mail: kickthedog
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Hunter is DEAD!!

All you managers hired by Hunter from CN/CP better get out of dodge.
You gonna be hunted down by all the other local managers and employees
you tried to bully! Your days are numbered!

All you idiots that keep talking shit about the union are a joke. YOU
ARE THE UNION!! If you dont like it make it better otherwise shut your
traps.  

A new day approaches!!! Let's ROLL!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Trains magazine is reportedly saying Harrison has died

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 December 2017

Unions prevent employers from firing lousy workers
Unions make sure we are all paid the same so the most productive
employee makes no more than the least productive. This is a problem
because it takes the incentive of working hard out. 
If Sally picks 900 apples a day and Dave picks 200 apples a day then
Sally should make a little more per hour, when Dave sees that Sally got
a raise the Dave starts to pick more apples to try and get a raise.
Sally continues to work hard everyday and one day a supervisor retires
so Sally is offer the position, now Dave is upset that he wasn't
offered the job and he resents Sally (his new supervisor) Dave out of
spite starts damaging apples and only picking 200 apples a day again.
Sally fires Dave for being a dipshit! 
Sally hires a new employee that is a good worker and deserving of the
job. The new guy, Bill picks 900 apples a day and gets top pay, all the
other workers want top pay so they pick 900 apples a day, now production
is at an all time high and they can supply more customers so the
business grows and grows and hires and hires.

One day a hedge fund is interested in the apple business, it plants a
new CEO to implement precision apple picking. The new CEO turns out to
be bananas and goes ape shi* trying to turn around the business by
selling all the equipment and closing up orchards. The remaining
orchards over time become less and less profitable as employee morale
slips. 

Bill (the new guy that Sally hired) has lost all motivation and starts
picking bananas, Sally fires Bill for picking bananas. 

CSX hears about some idiot working at an apple orchard picking bananas
and decides hey that guy would make an excellent Trainmaster. Bill now
works at CSX.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Retired Now's posted words are correct.
The post from Other, non-employee, for N/A - can be picked apart
line by line & that person ought to do a heck of a lot of research &
studying.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 December 2017

To RR JIM
A lot of employers offer part time and that is a good thing because
people sometimes need to go to school or be a mom or dad etc. some
people can't or don't want to work full time. The jobs you are
talking about are generally what high school graduates that are just
starting out in life take, they are not intended to be careers.
If a company offers part time positions would it be fair to give them
all the benefits as a full time employee? If part timers got all that
then the full timers would want more because they are full time.

Economics lesson 1: If Amazon, Walmart, and Sam's Club paid 17 an hour
and offered all the benefits you listed then who in the hell would hang
on to the back of a garbage truck in the cold and rain for 18-20 an
hour? Who would go obtain $60,000 in college debt and spent 4 years to
get a degree to become a mechanic to make 45k a year? Who would work at
the railroad? If I could work at Walmart for 17 an hour with full
benefits I would be there today. The list goes on man. If the pay and
benefits were great for these jobs then you would pay a lot more for
groceries, furniture, clothing, etc.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 16 December 2017

http://www.amazondelivers.jobs/about/benefits/

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Yeah, A lot of employers today hire part-timers working them just enough
to keep them at part-time status not having to pay for healthcare,
vacation pay etc.... Amazon, Sam's Club, Walmart etc... 

It was unions that fought & won vacation days, healthcare, pensions
etc... but once people started believing they didn't need unions by
the 90s it all came crashing down. Pensions were replaced with crappy
voluntary 401K's subjected to the whim of the stock market, healthcare
replaced with voluntary group policies, the list goes on. Most
corporations don't pay for any employee benefits anymore. But, great
that employee saved $100 a month by not paying union dues. That's
dumb.

Name: Retired Now 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Members' dues cannot be used for political campaign contributions.
Only Unions' PAC monies, voluntary donations from members, are used
for that purpose. [These donations are in addition to dues payments.]

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 December 2017

Plenty of non union jobs get paid vacation
Plenty of non union jobs get personal days
You choose if you want dailies or straight weeks so it's not like
you're getting paid vacation and in addition daily vacation days
Any company that requires travel will pay for your lodging
Detention time, ok but would we not have it if it weren't for the
unions?
Annulment pay is good, not too many non union workers get annulled so
that's probably why they don't have annulment pay
Unions have absolutely zero to do with government regulations
The union doesn't get you back when you are fired- the railroad is the
only place that I know of where employees are fired on a regular basis,
it is set up this way to keep everyone under the company thumb, they
know you will probably get back and they want you to come back. Most
employees have a mishap in their 2-5 year mark if they fired everyone
when they got in trouble there would be almost no one with more than 5
years of seniority, basically everyone on the railroad would be a new
guy. The cost to replace 90% of the employees every 5 years would
cripple the railroad so there is no way they could operate like that.
Trip rate deadheads, ok good
Not sure about non union jobs getting insurance 60-65 after 30
CSX does not match 401k who told you this? Plenty of non union jobs do
have a company match 401k
Stock award is nice if you earn it which is not easy to do, plenty of
non union jobs have company stock options and also profit sharing

Now with every perk listed that you think the union got us, imagine if
we were non union.... Do you think we wouldn't have these perks?
Without these who in the hell would put up with the lifestyle of
working for the railroad? The railroad could not retain employees
without these things. Would you apply to work at the railroad without
any of this? Companies have to offer a decent enough employment package
to be able to hire and retain employees. 

Now prepare to have your balls blown off......
You are in the same union as a lot of other employees that work for
other railroads, they have very similar contracts because of the
unions. Imagine if there were no unions and each company made their own
agreements, in this scenario railroads would actually have to compete
for employees. If railroad A, B, and C are hiring and you are looking
for work then you would choose the one that has the best benefits
right, well if that were railroad A then most people would try to work
there. Now Railroad B and C have to offer better incentives to get
employees hired and to retain them. I can go on but I think you can
figure out how it moves forward from there.

I left out holiday pay earlier, plenty of non union jobs get holiday
pay but they don't have to submit a claim that will likely get denied
due to insufficient information or improper agreement. The way a lot of
non union jobs do their holidays is they are just off for the holiday
and they get 8 hrs pay. 

Funny how you conductors like to stand on the nose in the cold and
rain, it's always sunny and 75 in the cab

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 December 2017

I apologize to everyone on here. If someone would of explained the
changes with the current SSA I would of understood. Thankfully someone
finally did. It's easy today for all of us to get nasty with one
another. I regret that it did. I sincerely mean it.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 December 2017

LC

Thank you for the explanation. I guess a lot has changed in the 7 years
since I retired. It was confusing especially when the BLE states CSX
(H&W only). I still get all correspondence from the BLE-T. I even got a
ballot to vote on the national contract seeing I'm a BLE-T lifetime
member. I didn't vote that's not my decision anymore. 

People can say the unions aren't doing anything. After retirement I
worked as an outside contractor through a local Manpower for a
shortline railroad for 4 1/2 years leasing CSX track that I once ran
from 1984-1999. They're a non-union railroad. There employees make
$15-$18 an hour overtime after 40 hours no benefits. They have a group
healthcare policy they can join at 100% their expense. The truth became
known to me that as an outside contractor doing flagging work for
outside contractors like VDOT, fiber optics etc... I made more per hour
than they did. That's what a non-union railroad would look like. It's
troubling to read people on here thinking they would be better off
without a union. 

CSX and the other railroads would like to get rid of MOW, Signal
Department etc.... hiring outside contractors. One man only on trains
is being threatened. The unions are fighting these battles. The
national was able to freeze the healthcare premium at current level
that covers the employee & family. Railroads wanted $750 a month for
just the employee another $750 to cover the family. They managed to
secure wage increases better than most in this country. The list goes
on. Now Railroad Retirement is being threatened by the Republican tax
bill.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Paid Vacation
Personal Days
Daily Vacation Days 
Lodging
Detention Time
8 hours or mileage of assignment if annulled
Government regulations (both good and bad)
The right/opportunity to get back if wrongly fired
Trip rated deadheads on assignments that have them (I know not all
assignments have them and time consumed is still in play on some)
Insurance from age 60 to 65 one you reach 30 years of service
401 K Match
Stock for Trainmen
Stock for Engineers (tougher to earn)


I can list several things that they don't do well, especially the
policing of the new regime, but I am not quite sure what you do other
than file claims and wait for the process.

Name: lol
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Retired Conductor


You're on point Brother.

Name: Retired Conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 December 2017

On the plus side the union maintains seniority. That means you get the
job that you are entitled to, not based on who the TM likes or not.
   The union takes dicipline and wage and rules violations to
arbitration. I know dozens of men brought back to work after being
fired.
 
On the minus side, as said here, we are not very good at having
concrete language in our new agreements. The railroads have top shelf
teams of lawyers , we have mostly ex conductors and engineers.
Also, to dip into politics, the unions are blinded by decades of
Democrat party promises, but little action. Our dues, if they go to
political donations, should be based on who actually can generate more
business and therefore more jobs.

Name: Bye bye Hunter
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 December 2017

Anyone else heard even Mantle Ridge is selling their shares?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 15 December 2017

To Future X LC
Please so I can pick it apart, please list for us the positive things
that our union has done for us, I dare you.
Give me a list

Name: Future X XLC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

I see clearly now - the carrier wants to increase wages, benefits, job
security and quality of life and the union is the only obstacle in the
way. Makes sense right? I suppose the carrier also thinks CEO pay is
obscene and workers are being treated poorly for their efforts. Must be
why Corp America so diligently try's to bust unions, not to benefit
shareholders but to help the working man. Great news, maybe the Rep
controlled government can push through a federal right to work bill
after they cut Corp taxes.

Name: Future LC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

List for us the positive things that our union has done for us please so
the rest of us can see how great it is to be a member of this union

Name: XLC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

REALLY!

Why do you waste your time? Obviously you believe your conspiracy
theories, the fix is in, you found the man behind the grassy knoll.
Take a bow and exit stage left, or stage RIGHT in your case.

Name: yeah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

XLC

When I first became a member of the UTU I had some issues with their
article and the way they were written. I also heard so many rumors
about agreements made on the side and didn't have any copies of them
that I called the International and requested that I be sent copies of
the side letters which was my right per federal law/LMRDA. Not only did
the rep at the time I was talking to get smart mouthed with me but he
told me that there were at least 5 filing cabinets of side letters and
there was no way I could be or would be given copies of these letters.
If I wanted a letter I could put in a request through my local chairman
and he would see that I got it.  We started a petition and actually had
2 LC jump on board and request that these so called side letters be put
on a disc for the LC and they could distribute them to the members. We
all know the answer to that. There were also comments made during
several discussions about it that there were letter that dated back to
the 1940s that still existed. whether that is true or not no one knows.
How would any of the members in the trenches now any of this. We just
pay our dues and live on the mercy of the international to getting
around to answering these questions. I don't know one single LC in the
last 8 years that hasn't said they don't know what is happening half
the time because the GC and the International leave them on hold and
they feel left out of the loop.  What I posted is a fact. Knowledge is
power. Keeping your members in the dark and ignorant is how they keep
control of them.

Name: REALLY?
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

The union doesn't work for the employees, the union works for the
company
We have to be in the union to work at the railroad
We have to pay a set amount in dues every month
We can't strike
The union doesn't have to do anything at all for us and they still get
paid, it's not like we can drop out of the union or only pay half of
our dues when we are not pleased! The union gets paid by the members
regardless of performance. The union gets paid by the company based on
performance so it is in the interest of the union to please the company
not the employees. Don't be so ignorant to how the real world works

Name: XLC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

Yeah!

I doubt the union is trying to control anyone, information is available
and every member can take the time to educate themselves. Its absurd to
say, "the problem isn't the carrier constantly abusing our
agreement", but the union for allowing vague language. The phrase
"constantly abusing" is an indictment in itself. That's not to say
the union isn't often bested by carrier legal teams when negotiating
agreements, I'd say thats most often the case.

Name: lol
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

When we originally got the bid system under Ingram.  The EC and over
miles were to be paid on dH.  No gray area whatsoever in wording.  Csx
didn't like it and the ble bent over and changed the wording.  Then
the ble had the audacity to tell the membership just because were
changing the wording doesn't mean were forfeiting the ec on dhs.  
Some believed this and stop complaining and with time most forgot all
about it.

Name: Grondon G.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 December 2017

Around 44 million csx shares were traded today or swucthed hands, the
average in a given day is around 6 million shares, csx maybe trying to
buy back shares to stablize the price. Who knows.

Name: YEAH!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

XLC

THANKYOU for finally saying it.  I have been saying for years to
everyone I work with that the problem isn't with the carrier getting
away with constantly abusing our agreement, its the Unions allowing the
articles to be written as you put it in so many words.....A whole lot of
damn gray areas in the wording! They also have articles written that
contradict each other or leave loop holes to override one with
another(benefit for the carrier) causing even more confusion for the
members.  I used to be a member of the UAW. Our agreement that we had
was written in black and white. There was nothing to disagree about. If
the company tried something stupid it was dealt with swiftly and was
settled quickly. The only reason any unions write an agreement the way
ours does is so that the members do not have the power to represent
themselves. If every member had a black and white agreement with no
loopholes then we wouldn't even need an LC. We could handle our own
claims/complaints. We would have power. The UTU and the BLET does not
want their members to have that kind of knowledge and power. A good
union equips their members with all the knowledge they need and the
ability to get quick and direct answers from their locals and the
International. Sorry, not what any body wants to hear but that's the
facts. This gives the union full control over their members and its
ability to horse trade deals when trying to settle a so called gray
area in an article. I've seen it done. Lets just sit at the table and
agree that since the members are putting in hundreds of claims for this
particular article and we really aren't sure what to agree upon to make
them happy , lets settle on another other one that they have very little
claims on and settle it for .50 on the dollar and tell the members that
it was settled and the carrier agreed to pay a percentage and rewrite
the article for the best interest of both parties. Almost every time
they will tell you that it was better for the members as a whole to
settle for what they did because otherwise the carrier could stall and
it could be years before it is settled. A tactic that is used to bluff
members into thinking things are being settled fairly and the unions
are actually doing their jobs properly...  BLAH BLAH BLAH

Name: XLC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

Wondering 

A collective bargaining agreement is a "contract" between 2 or more
party's. In our case the union, employees (majority rules, thus some
are governed by the agreement without voting for it) and the employer.
In general a collective agreement is larger in scope and covers more
people then what one would normally consider a contract. Agreements
settles things like wages/insurance (in our case), but leaves other
issues not clearly defined as future difference cannot be foreseen.
Neither side expects the agreement to clearly cover all issues, in fact
they may leave some issues vague as they cannot agree but want to move
on with the agreement. When issues inevitably arises arbitration is
used to settle these matter, but as we know that takes time and
funding.

Name: Cond.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

Trump lover


This is csx sucks if you didn't happen to notice. Not spew your
political crap.com.  Oh yeah, must be one of those loud mouth trouble
making moles that the monitor posted about. Hope the webmaster cuts you
off.

Now back to more important things. We all better keep an eye on our
stock. Some of us are getting close to retiring and counting on some of
that to use for a living. This Foote character may just be a puppet that
EHH molded into Mini Me or he could be just the opposite and was just
waiting to step in a knock the old man out permanently. Going to be
real interesting to see if he thinks this precision railroading is all
its cut out to be.

Name: Trump lover
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 December 2017

Trump is doing amazing things for the railroad industry.We should all be
grateful for his leadership.Thanks trump

Name: JACK LEVELER
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

For every thousand shares you had you just lost $4500 overnight, more to
follow!

Name: Mr.Ed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 December 2017

Foote, really? what the hell?  I'm the horse for the job.  Stock would
be sky rocketing right now if I was named interim CEO.

Name: Retired Conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 December 2017

Bye Bye, wear something cool, it's going to e VERY hot at your next
station.
https://www.thestreet.com/story/14422341/1/csx-stock-sinks-after-ceo-hunter-harrison-takes-medical-leave.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO

Name: lol
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

wondering

Good point.


A contract is a written or verbal agreement that is enforceable by law.
An agreement is the same, however it is typically not enforced by the
law. A contract is a formal agreement which is legally binding, usually
created for business purposes, or to ensure the safety of one's assets

Name: LC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

RRJim


Sorry, but what I meant to say is that at your time your are correct.
But since your retirement all wage increases are now settled with the
National agreement negotiations.

Name: LC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

RRJim

What you have been trying to say is 100% correct. For some reason no
one can read what you have been saying. YES! Our health and welfare is
negotiated under our national agreement. Our wages, working conditions,
etc are negotiated under our SSA. What is so hard for people to get
about this.

Name: Wondering
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

RRj/XLX/XLC and the rest.

Please explain something to me.  How come for the 8 years I have been
working for csx I have NEVER seen anything negotiated under the term
contract.  It is always called an agreement. I don't think it has ever
been said we had a contract passed. Just an agreement. If its a contract
then why not call it that. There must be some gray area or fine line
between an agreement and a contract. If we had a contract couldn't we
be suing them for breach of contract? They deliberately violate our
agreement. I think we should sue them for failure to negotiate in good
faith. They signed the thing, They know what was agreed upon in it.
When they deny valid claims and bulk with their crap they know what
they are doing. No doubt they planned it all slong. That should be
grounds to sue!

Name: lol
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

I can't speak intelligently about The Ble-t website.  Other than their
the dumbasses that negotiate our contracts.  They seldom ever
understand  the meaning of a contract they signed off on. They
regularly have an arbitrator to rule on the wording of a contract after
it's passed.  They probably didn't realize or don't care that we are
tied to the national on wage increase and H&W. They may need an
arbitrator for this too or it may have been a typo. 

Like I posted previously the carriers have educated men and women
negotiating with boxcar Willy and Jim Bob.  We lose out every time.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

CSX stock down 7% in the first half hour of trading. I hope everyone was
smart enough to pull out when they could. People are going to lose a lot
of money today.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 December 2017

Then explain why on the BLE website it clearly states concerning the
national CSX (Health & Welfare only)? I worked under BLE/CSX SSA's and
under the national H&W was the only thing that was our concern. Wages,
work agreements etc...were always covered under the SSA.

Name: lol
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

Rrjim you spew more bullshit than Pines.

Name: OleDawg
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

Specifically, the SSA of 2014 which is currently in effect, outlines the
attachment of our wage increases in Article 1, Section A.  Now there's
stupid, and there's lazy.  As this is on page 1 of the agreement,
immediately after the table of contents, one could seriously not be
that lazy.  STFU and go back in your hole rrjim.

Name: Jack
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 December 2017

Will someone educate RRJIM on our contract.


We are tied to the National Agreement for the General Wage Increases
and Health & Welfare. This was set forth in our third leg of the SSA.


RRJIM

Stop speaking of things you know nothing of.  Some look on here to get
information.

Name: tyrone
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

To all of HH's brown nosing shareholders; DO NOT sell any stocks!  He
will be just fine and back on the job in no time.

To all my union brothers; DUMP that shit NOW before you loose your ass!

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 December 2017

billy

You poor uniformed person, or is it just ignorance? CSX doesn't give
you a performance bonus without the union getting it into a
contract/agreement which is the BLE/CSX SSA. If you want to believe CSX
BLE LE wage increases are included in the national contract then I know
you also believe in Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy etc...
Don't be to disappointed when it doesn't happen.

Name: SSS
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

I just moved all my CSX stock to S&P 500, maybe it won't take effect
for 48 hrs but I don't think the stock will tank overnight and there
is no trading Saturday and Sunday so as long as you have it moved by
Friday you will be ok.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

I worked a few times with this 1 new guy who was a so called college
grad, he was dumb as a nail he did not even know that a engine had 2
angle cocks on it and they made this guy a T.M.!!!!! LOL.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 15 December 2017

You wonít be able to get out until the close of the market tomorrow
thatís the way it works by then the damage will be done good luck

Name: F%$k ME
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

I'm scrambling to get my money outta CSX,(and I was making $200 per
day) the old man ain't in good shape! 401K, pension, etc., get it all
out. This stock jump was based on Harrison taking over, not Foote!
Harrison is hearing the Angels singing, or Hell's Bells! Whatever,
protect your money!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 December 2017

Been on the sight several times moving assets around but this time it
won't let me...hmmm

Name: SELL SELL SELL!!!!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 December 2017

SELL YOUR STOCK NOW!!!! WHATEVER YOU HAVE GET RID OF IT!!!!
Go to the link below and transfer your stock now before it losses it's
ass and you take a major hit on your retirement. It takes 5 minutes if
you know what you are doing, and if you have never messed with it, it
will take about 20 minutes, it is self explanatory. I am not a broker
but I can assure you that you will regret not doing it! 20 minutes of
your time will save your retirement. There are about 30 other funds
that you can move your money into and it doesn't cost any fees
whatsoever. I know there are other crafts that have other accounts but
this is the only one I know of, I do not work for or have I ever worked
for CSX so I apologize and will try to post the other links for the
other crafts. 
https://participant.empower-retirement.com/participant/#/login

Sincerely 
Secret Santa

Name: Mr.Mr.
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 December 2017

Yeah I Hope the old man is ok.  I don't want anyone to be in bad
shape.


To all you dumbasses who approved his pay package.  You all to should
be shit canned.   Paying out that kind of money to someone his age
without a medical release.

Name: EHH
E-mail: GOB
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 December 2017

Cough* cough*

Guys, Iím not feeling so well

Name: Loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 December 2017

Hunter goes on medical leave.... Foote appointed CEO

http://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/csx-announces-medical-leave-of-ceo-e-hunter-harrison-20171214-01223

Name: Retired Now
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 December 2017

To the Webmaster: 
Thank you for the site; have a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year.  
If you could stop by, you'd be offered beer & a pretty darn good 
home cooked meal.
To XLX & XLC:  Those recent posts were cool to read. 
Safety First:  Winter & Holiday Season time folks - maybe even more on
minds now than other times.  Be careful doing what all you have to do
to earn a living.

Name: ???
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 December 2017

Forums... 

an example of topics in the wrong forum. Just look at the last 4. Take
them to denied claims or unprofessionalism. Think that's where I will
go with my response to all of you!

Name: XLX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 December 2017

Lol

Thanks for make my point, I'm sure your ignorance is bliss. 

1 - Ive never marked off union on a weekend
2 - Is the claim a bullshit claim, if so should it be paid?
3 - If claim is legit, who's declining it, not the union.

Other than that, thanks for thanking me!

Name: lol
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 December 2017

XLC/RRJim


Thanks for all you that you do.  We appreciate you guys laying off over
the weekend to call Billy Jack about his bullshit claim that never gets
paid. You guys go above and beyond.

Name: XLC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 December 2017

The union bashing on here is intolerable. Things are far from ideal, but
the alternative is much worse. You bitch about the union not
representing employees or getting claims paid, but who is it charging
employees with bs charges and declining your claims? It's the company,
and they have all the advantages as they could care less if your fired
or cheated out of pay. The lack of arbitration funding doesn't hurt
the company, only the union, as we wait in limbo for a decision that
the company hopes never comes. The company should honored our contracts
and treated us like assets rather than liabilities. Until that happens
(unlikely) the union, which is each and everyone of us who pays dues,
is our only and best option. I've been involved and it's discouraging
to take a beating from both sides. Most have no clue how matters are
handled, yet talk like they have the answers. We need to be united, the
company plays on our division.

Name: lol
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 December 2017

not speaking of the clowns that we deal with on a regular basis.  The
men who are negotiating with boxcar willy on contracts are.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 December 2017

just to clarify a long standing myth: managers are NOT Ivy League
graduates. They are typically very marginal people who spent one year
in junior college before flunking out, or possibly, if they are the
best and the brightest, had CSX pay for an easy on line school whose
credits will NOT transfer to most legitimate schools. We did have a TM
several years ago with a logistics degree who stayed 3 years approx
(Rice), another 2 years with a vocational film school background who
worked at a hotel (stayed 2 years) a superintendent who "studied
engineering" but flunked out end of freshman year (or earlier)father
was a big shot, another had general studies degree - barely squeaked
through- from big state U., easiest possible degree, and others ALL
very marginal. It doesn't mean they are bad people, although it
suggests the term "marginally effective junior officer" would be
accurate. You find higher levels of education in union ranks than you
do in management, although union leaders are not the top ones. The RR
loves managers who cannot get any job in a normal company, and are
desperate to be a RR boss, and so will DO ANYTHING to get and keep that
job.

Name: monitor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 December 2017

Ape


A safety rule is written in a way that it has a gray area. The TMs have
decided to see things differently than the crews but no one has bothered
to take the issue to the operating rules department for a final answer
so nothing has been settled. A TM writes up a crew member for the rule
using his interpretation. The crew member argues with the TM that his
interpretation is wrong and the TM tells him that what he says is the
rule. The crew member argues his point and the TM tells him to get back
to work. For the next week the TM follows him around and finally gets
him on another rules violation. The crew member comes to this site to
post.

1. He has a safety rule issue
2. He has been treated unprofessionally 
3. He has now experienced harassment

So now he is mad and wants everyone to know about his issue so he post
under every forum he thinks warrants his topic. There are some who
don't follow this idea and post under every forum because they feel
their post might be missed if they don't. Some posters are not sure
which forum is the proper one to chose when they have something
relevant to more than one. Then we have the moles who come in when a
topic is hot and makes the company uneasy. These posters are just
annoying and useless. Their job is to distract and eliminate the
subject.
The most misused forum is Harassment and discrimination. There is a
reason that that forum header is followed by: Racial, sexual,
religious. Those topics are meant for that forum but because it says
"harassment " many chose to post there. If you only used that forum
for the topics listed you probably wouldn't see much there unless
someone can prove for sure that they are being targeted because of
their race or religion. As for sexual harassment, well with a mostly
male based business that topic will remain pretty quiet.
The webmaster may be able to find a way to block someone from putting a
repetitive post in more than one forum but I doubt very seriously he
will do so. Yes, it can be annoying but when people feel violated in so
many different ways they will always take the strongest avenue to voice
their opinion and what happened. If anything could be changed I
personally would love to see the company moles blocked. But then that
is the only way to find out which topics are sending up a red flag and
are being reviewed by CSX lawyers and public affairs. Most seasoned
poster know how to pick the moles out. They have a definite pattern and
they wont let them discourage them from continuing the discussion. I
understand your frustration but look at it this way, if it isn't an
annoying mole and someone who is truly frustrated and violated it is
better to vent here than to take it to work!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 December 2017

Webmaster,

I appreciate the asset you provide here.  Thanks.  I have a request
though.  Any chance you can enact short term bans for those who refuse
to post in only one forum?  What that does is diminish the value of
looking through here.  We should each be able to quickly go through and
scan until the last post you read, read up from there and move on.  What
the intellectually challenged poster do is make it a PITA until you just
give up and don't come back.  Maybe that's their intent.  Please give
some thought to this.

Name: sowhat
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 December 2017

Crews

The fact is we are going to get some kind of chump change wage increase
and we are going to pay a hell of a lot more out of our pockets for
medical!  God forbid any of you have sick kids or a sick spouse!  Now,
Im going to go figure out how much my union dues are going to go up
after we get our raise. You know they get a raise every time we do. 
They say it is part of their fee for doing negotiations for us. 
In the meantime Im going to spend more of my time trying to figure out
when they are going to throw us all under the bus and put us on one big
pool and do away with assigned jobs or pools! Just one big board that
covers everything. That is what EHH wants and will do what ever it
takes to get accomplished!  No seniority and never knowing what your
going to get called for every stinking day.
Guarantee you it is already a done deal that all pools will be self
supporting until he gets what he wants. They already have a few pools
doing that and no doubt they are going to change the ones that aren't.
Nothing you can do about it. The extra board is going to be cut in half
and more people will be on the street.  Its coming so you better get
ready for it!

Name: billy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 December 2017

rrJ


Can you read?   CSX SSA bonus has nothing to do with it.   General wage
increase and Health care is separate and handled by the national.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 December 2017

lol

I forgot to mention Dumbass. You will get a check around February for
the CSX BLE-T SSA productivity bonus. From what I hear seeing I'm
retired it'll be pretty good this year possibly maxing out at 12%.
Which one would I take? If I made $100,000 this year that would be
$12,000 productivity bonus. Or, the national contract back time for
2016 & 2017 getting maybe $3000-$5000. There is no productivity bonus
under any national contract. Maybe you'll also get a wage increase
under the SSA not sure of that schedule. You're clueless.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 December 2017

lol

Hey Dumbass, I just checked the BLE-T website. It clearly states CSX
(H&W only).

Name: lol
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 December 2017

RR Jim

Dipsticks like yourself is why were not taken seriously.   How the hell
can someone work for CSX and not know the wage increase applies.  

You're probably involved in our union and will eventually become a GC.
We have men like you and the carriers have Ivy League.  That's why we
always lose out.

Name: Bernie
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 13 December 2017

only a derelict old man does what this draft dodger does. he's a fraud.
you're being swindled. hes fired every knowledgeable person around him.
you losers hanging on hiding behind " I was just following
orders."really think that's going to work. it hasnt since Nuremberg.
your guilty. morally defective just like Harrison. been nowhere punks.
be careful fatass low. be careful.

Name: BLAH!BLAH!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 December 2017

IGITS

Future conductor was just being a smart ass. Maybe a TM who is pissed
off cause he came from a college and never worked the craft. Getting
ready to lose his job and cant come back in the craft.

Name: Hugh Jorgan
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 December 2017

Future conductor

Conducting is not the same as foaming.  Foamers can wave at the train,
blow kisses, take pictures, get erections from train whistles, and
whatever else yall do.  It is not as glamorous as you might think when
you are laying in a rundown hotel for a couple of days waiting on a
call that may or may not come soon.  Id keep foaming and dreaming if I
were you.

Name: Past conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 December 2017

Well future conductor, since there are a couple hundred conductors
furloughed at each terminal, I'd say you have a long way to go. But if
you have dreams about a shitty lifestyle and working for a company that
steals from it's employees regularly, get in the back of the line.
Alot of these guys have never done anything else in their life, so
they'll wait. And alot of these guys have too much time invested in
their retirement, so good luck. What's your next dumb idea?

Name: moderator
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 December 2017

Future conductor

STOP IT! I only see a piece of coal in your stocking.

Name: future conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 December 2017

I have a good job but I have always wanted to work for the railroad.What
do you folks think should I try and get hired so I can ride those
rails?oh what a life it must be riding the rails waving at the people
and making that big money.

Name: monitor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 December 2017

Posters

Its Christmas time again as you are all aware of. Time to reflect on
what we do have and what we are grateful for. Most of us have our
health and loved ones to share our time with. Those who don't wish
they could be in our shoes. We must show compassion to those who are
not as lucky as ourselves. We must take a moment to set aside our
hostile thoughts and anger to reflect on our good fortunes. As bad as
our situation seems in the workplace, we still have our families and
good times. It is also a time to thank the webmaster(Atom Smasher) for
continuing to have a place for all of us to come and discuss as well as
vent about the situations of our work place and the fears of our future.
Though some may use this site as a place to bait and drag others into
useless irrelevant issues it is still a pretty good site to have up and
running for our use. 
Wish your webmaster a Merry Christmas and be kind and donate or visit
his amazon wish list. I am sure he will be truly grateful for anything
you give to him no matter how small. He has kept this site up and
running for so many years now he should be commended for doing so. 
Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas or what ever holiday you celebrate.
Things are tough but we will prevail. That's what we do best.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Name: lol
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 December 2017

Jokers 

Always someone bringing in politics when the info gets good. So damn
predictable. Politics doesn't have shit to do with what's happening
in our yards now. It's all because the worst ranked class 1 railroad
with the lowest pay and low safety record brought in a dried up old man
on his last journey to fame in to do his smoke and mirror trick he does
so well. Play games,manipulate numbers and the markets and show boat a
compny that could never fully compete with the big boys. Tried years to
win the famous "HARASSMENT " award and couldn't get it done. NS
smoked them every year. Brought in every reject from other railroads to
gather info on the competition and failed. Just keeps trying. Even
dupont told them to tone down the safety crap.Didn't like what they
heard so they told them to take a hike. Won't use the GCORE because
their way is better and that wouldn't feed the ego. It wouldn't
matter who was potus or ran the government. They couldn't give a shit
less. It's stockholders,investors and wallsreet that they care about.
Quick fix,quick bucks and fat pockets before they bust. while our potus
plays Twitter all night HH is chipping away and dismantling our industry
and manipulating the stock prices. Expense account looks good when
theres hundreds less to pay.

Name: Not fooled
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 December 2017

Pine poser  

Go crawl back into your sewer pipe. You can't distract people enough
with your crap now you got to start your pot shots at L&N. Where is his
post? When did he chime in with anything. You start this crap with him
everytime you need attention. Or maybe you just make that up to. no use
for you here.  It's Christmas. the real pines would be crying about his
dead wife and gate crossing violations. Been his Mo for 15
years.railroaders have more important things to discuss than your
stupid crap. Go lay down!

Name: Inspector
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 December 2017

Ape 

I believe I understand your question. every block you pick up must have
an airship showing when they were given their air test. You must keep
the slip for each block. If you pick up blocks with no slips you of
course will have to retest them and make a new slip for them. If you
are picking up multiple blocks without slips you can put them together
and test them as one block. You still have to complete an air slip for
those cars. What it boils down to is if you don't put the train
together all at once and air test it as one whole train you must have a
slip proving the cars you picked up were tested and when.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 December 2017

Safety thread alert
L@N ---Jens Bang and his dog BJ still sleep with momma Bang.

So did the cook book for going down the tracks change with longer
trains? The 20 mph curves, town speed limits, etc. would take longer to
clear before the notch up. So longer trains are actually slower slowing
down the word smithed railroads are God for the sake of
InterstateCommerce one would think.

This hog head guy must of did well on the railroads special kind of
stupid test.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 December 2017

ame: Hog  head
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 December 2017

Really?

Explain to me how a long train can cause it to derail. Been doing this
25 years and never had a long train cause any of my derailments. It's
always been bad track, bad switches or junk cars that weren't
inspected properly.  Train lenght never had anything to do with it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 December 2017

It's cute that you nerds think that the process of bringing on EHH
started under Trump lol. Spoiler: It's been in the works for multiple
years. Dems are to blame this time. Trump had nothing to do with it.

Democrat policies do nothing to help trade and make your jobs harder
and fewer to come by. (Restrictions and regulations are expensive,
turns out!)

BTW: All those violent urban cities, all Democrat run. Enjoy that. :)

Name: Hmm
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 December 2017

Thank you 30 plus

Name: GTfordefied
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 December 2017

You guys talk a good game. Bad news I ain't a troll outa jackxxxville.

All you guys that haven't figured out that the democratic party of
today is not the same as it was even 30 years ago. They could care
less
about you, me or any other "working man" just look what your hero
obumer  did to coal country.how many people on here lost their job or
had to move because of their policies

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 December 2017

Contact effective 12/01/17
Pay rate increases & H&W changes 01/01/18
Back/retroactive pay - due as soon as possible after effective date
of Contractual Agreement but no later than 60 days [if later, the
carriers have to have real good reason(s)].

Name: BEANIE WEENIE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 December 2017

I just want the quits back. Better yet revert everything back to how it
was 1 year ago!

Name: Hmm
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 December 2017

On what date was the new contract effective?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 December 2017

so at workmlast night we discussed air slips we are doing al this new
blocking of train s pick this part of a block up and this part up and
so forth . how many air slips are legal or allowed for this train or
should it be retested and when added new blocks can I have 20 air slips
or do we need to have just one for all new blocks picked up . hope you
understand question here

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 December 2017

It is the month of December now.  Colder temps; ice, snow, just plain
crappy outside working conditions in many areas. Take care\be careful.

Name: Cool mo D
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 December 2017

Does Fat Jack Vierling still work for Csx if yes how can that be he
should have been the first one gone

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 December 2017

So did the cook book for going down the tracks change with longer
trains? The 20 mph curves, town speed limits, etc. would take longer to
clear before the notch up. So longer trains are actually slower slowing
down the word smithed railroads are God for the sake of Interstate
Commerce one would think.

This hog head guy must of did well on the railroads special kind of
stupid test.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 December 2017

ame: Hog  head
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 December 2017

Really?

Explain to me how a long train can cause it to derail. Been doing this
25 years and never had a long train cause any of my derailments. It's
always been bad track, bad switches or junk cars that weren't
inspected properly.  Train lenght never had anything to do with it.

Name: NOT FOOLED
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 December 2017

GT

Take your baiting propaganda somewhere else.  Go tell your CSX master
we aint falling for it.  No way are we going stop discussing whats
really going on out there! You might distract a few but you cant fool
them all!

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 December 2017

APE

I was just f#@king with this GT.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 December 2017

Well, just to be factual, there has been NO, ZERO, NADA evidence to date
against Trump for collusion.  There's plenty of evidence against
Clinton and the DNC.  Just putting that out there.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 December 2017

GT

You're calling me "Comrade" when your president Trump is in
collusion with Putin & the Russians. LOL! Sorry dude, I came from a
generation where Russians were the enemy during the Cold War. I didn't
like Obama. I don't have to like a president. I do watch their actions.
This one is selling you out but you're to blind to see it.

Name: GTfordefied
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 December 2017

Hey Jim, I'll tell you like I told my LC  in a dead head bus 10 years
ago when he told me I "had" to vote for obumer, I had to vote for my
job...  I told him I could get another job, I couldn't get another
country... So if your wondering why so called "workers" are voting
Trump and Republican,just ask your self if your a "worker" or an
American, comrade

Name: Back pay
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 December 2017

Let us know when you guys start getting your back pay!then I can resign
and get my vacation!!

Name: MOW
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 December 2017

Don't forget we have daily vacations, personal days, FMLA, and marking
off sick. Pick a day get as many as possible to get dailies and
personals in for that day then have the rest either use FMLA or call in
sick.

Name: SP
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 December 2017

Why do people say we can't strike? Of course we can strike it is as
simple as...
1.Banding together and not going to work
2.Banding together and working 100% rules compliant
3.Banding together and working at a pace that slows operations down

Working in a way that slows things down means on time departures are
not made and when that happens it starts a chain of events that backs
everything up and you supervisors that care nothing about you start
getting looked at.

Other than this Google Wildcat Strike and then tell me why we can't
strike

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 December 2017

I have to ask. Why is it necessary to put a response on all sections
instead of just the one? That doesn't make sense. Keep it simple.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 December 2017

Me

The Bid system sucks.  I wish we had seniority moves.  We don't get
demands days, bonus or stick for being marked up that you speak of.

Name: Mr.Ed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 December 2017

New 2018 operating plan.

1. We will push out 1/2 of our customers. (The 1/2 who have other  
shipping options)

2. We will keep 1/2 of our customers. (The 1/2 who have no other
shipping options)

3. We will reduce T&E by a least 1/2.

4. We will run our trains on strict time frames.

5. We will charge our customers 2.5x their previous shipping cost for
PSR.

6. Our RR will double in value.  We will be making more money than ever
with this plan. With  1/2 the cost for manpower, less fuel cost, less  
 cost for power, 1/2 wear and tear on track and equipment.

That's why I make the Big Bucks

Name: BrownHornet
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 December 2017

RRJim

I've been to union meetings.  I get frustrated and I don't go back
for 6months to a year.   

The one conclusion I've came to  is they are a Total Waste of Fucking 

Time.   If every member of a local showed up at every single meeting
the only change would be that the meeting would be moved from a
telephone booth to a suite in Jax HQ.   

I am Pro Union hardcore 4th generation but without the power to strike
our union sucks and UTU sucks Mr. Ed's dick.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 December 2017

I read a lot of complaining about the unions. I'm wondering how many
take the time to go to the meetings. Everyone should be able to make it
to 5-6 a year. That's what I did. If I wasn't on the road I'd give up
that 2-3 hours. Your concerns mean nothing on here. The meetings are
where you vent your grievances. If you feel the local chairman isn't
doing their job throw your hat in the ring and run for office.
Unfortunately rail unions are not like the other unions like the UAW.
Our unions hands are tied by the Railway Labor Act on what actions can
be taken. It's been going on for decades the violation of work
agreements etc.... One action we took was to time ticket the hell out
of them. Might of not got paid but they had to handle it like every
other ticket. That cost them time & money. One example when the caboose
was eliminated in 1991 and when EOT's were placed on the rear of trains
the LE had to monitor the HTD which was the job of the conductor on the
caboose with air pressure, train moving etc... Just in my terminal
LE's over a 3-4 year timeframe put in well in excess of 100,000 claims
for doing the work of the conductor. We didn't get a dime for it. But
Payroll & Labor Relations had to handle those claims. Call it a
protest. If thru freight is doing the work of local freight put in a
time ticket. If any of the work is outside of yard limits there's no
claim that could be considered line of road work. Issues like this is
where the union meeting is the place to discuss it seeing that's a
local issue. Not on here.

Name: Me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 December 2017

Stand

Don't forget, the utu has and continues to cost the conductors on the
northern region approximately 20 thousand a year for the last 7
years..that's right, what could we do with an extra 140 k right now? 
And all for what ....a seniority move every 2 weeks.  And all the while
the southern region conductors get to bid a move every week, stock award
if they stay available, bonus like the engineers, and 401k match. Oh but
we wanted to be able to get our buddies to bump us so we could ride it
out 48 hours....oh wait..can't even do that without the company
charging us, thanks utu

Name: Stand as one
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 10 December 2017

I have consistently dogged out our unions since I started at CSX and
have done so openly. On several occasions, these pro union guys in the
locker rooms have told me that 
"you know if it weren't for the union"....
1. We would be called to work and they could make us do whatever they
want.
2. We wouldn't make the money we do, or even get decent pay raises.
3. They could hold us over for 12 hours and not give you an option or
another ticket.
4. They could fire anyone of us just because they want to.
5. They could combine the work of several jobs and put it on one crew
so they could cut jobs off.
6. They could get rid of weekend off days
7. They could generally make life miserable for us any way they wanted
to.

Well there is more but here is a good start if anyone else wants to add
on here.

Corresponding examples for each:
1. Y134 in the job description says 1st shift pulling job. Oh we need
you to go work this industry because Y138 layed off and we can't fill
it. Oh yeah and bleed off the 28 cars you brought back so we don't
have to give it to the carman.
2. Decent pay means I should be able work 40+ hours a week and
comfortably support my family. This last pay raise was a joke, my cost
of living went up more in the last 2 years than my raises.
3. I sure thought there was a protocol for such situations, but if
there is no relief for your job you are staying.
4. They sure have been targeting individuals in the past 6 months or
so.
5. Look how many jobs have been combined and how many jobs have been
cut off.
6. Weekend off days? There might be 3-5 jobs per terminal with weekends
off, guess who gets those and guess how long you will have to be here to
get it.
7. It has become more and more miserable and it will get worse. 

Bonus item: The Crew Attendance Point System sucks 
Extra bonus item: The Daily Vacation and Personal Leave days caps can
and do get manipulated, it's bad enough now that guys end up carrying
over days not because they want to save them but because they can't
use them.
Last bonus item: Where did demand days for conductors go? Thanks Union

Final thought: Thank you union,I am so glad to know that we pay our
dues and you have our backs when we need you! You are worthless and
need to earn your checks. We don't pay you to get in bed with the
company! We know the company pays you better than we do but what we do
pay we should something out of it! You are a joke!!

Our only hope is to make the news with something big, we can shut this
country down within a few days, especially this time of year!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 December 2017

I remember when they put Road Forman on the middle engine of a long ass
dp trains and he said it would beat the shit out of him.  Just seems it
would be easier to buck cars of the rail with long slop freight trains. 
For those engineers that think they are God and if would never happen to
them, shut the fuck up.  Regulating train length will create jobs.

Name: Hogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 December 2017

Other 

You know what's on your train, what terrain the rear is in and how to
handle slack. Long or short it doesn't matter. Sloshy tankers with
short draw bars don't play well with long ones. Especially behind
autos and stacks. Sinkers on the rear. Don't blame it on the slack.
It's the lack of training and the heavy handling by hot running
pups.bet half of them don't even know or follow their rules for
handling long cars in sharp curves. They rip out draw bars and bust
knuckles like a bull in a China shop. Those who haven't just been
lucky. Sure theres a few who got common sense but most just got to rush
before they know shit and learn the hard way.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 December 2017

ame: Hog  head
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 December 2017

Really?

Explain to me how a long train can cause it to derail. Been doing this
25 years and never had a long train cause any of my derailments. It's
always been bad track, bad switches or junk cars that weren't
inspected properly.  Train lenght never had anything to do with it.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Can ya say what? It is called combined slack.

Name: hadenough
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 December 2017

CSX LAWYERS

HEY YOU!!!!   YEAH CSX LAWYERS!  While your reading this you better
plan on making some calls to your safety directors and make plans to
help out these idiotic Chiefs who cant seem to get it through their
thick skulls that just because an Engineer has an engine equipped with
PTC that doesn't mean he can run on territory he is not qualified on.
No where in the FRA law does it state that the PTC program can be
substituted for a human pilot! The law states the pilot cant be a
member of the crew. You want to get technical I would say the PTC is a
member of the crew. It on board with them! Its got the engineers ID and
password in it! Half the chiefs working out here have been dispatchers
and they should know that this shit doesn't fly. Why in the hell would
you not teach these idiots how the PTC works. It is not a DETAILED MAP
OF THE TERRITORY! It doesn't tell an engineer about the CHRACTERISTICS
OF THE TERRITORY! You cant stare at the screen like it is some kind of
camera that take clear visual pictures ahead and lets you know what is
around every corner. Does the damb thing tell you where every bridge
and gulley is when you have a flash flood warning. Does it tell you
where close clearances are when your working an industry and your
conductor is brand new and you don't know a thing about it either?
Even if it could you turn it off while switching. Im not going to even
get into the damn thing blowing at every dirt road that it shouldn't.
You need to have a staff meeting and start deciding how your going to
handle these chiefs who cop and attitude and threaten crews with
insubordination if they don't use the PTC to go on territory they
aren't authorized to go on by the FRA laws and regulations.  You
better start getting it together before ethics violations start pouring
in and endangerment charges are thrown in your lap! Time to grow up and
start teaching supervision the rules of the road. You represent a multi
million dollar company and it should be embarrassing the amount of
stupid mistakes and unprofessional decisions that are made every day.
Time to start acting like a grown up railroad!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 December 2017

"Not long ago I heard an EX RF who is now a TM tell a
newer engineer if he ran slower than 3 mph below the set limit he
could
be charged with delay of train." - Sounds like a certain RF&P RFE who
is now the Philly Sub TM.

Name: other rep
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 December 2017

Ape

 Not all unions are as bad as the one you seem to be represented by.
The UAW have one hell of a legal team and they don't mess around with
management when shit gets deep. They fight to win. Sorry to say but
years of doing nothing by the members and allowing your union to get In
bed with management has taken its toll. Its up to the members to clean
house and get down to business. You pay your union to represent you.
They have a liability to you to do so. They are receiving compensation
for their work. If their work is unsatisfactory you have avenues to
take in federal law. Most members are not aware they have protective
right set forth in federal law that protect them from corrupt unions. 
I was told by a friend that several UTU members stated they never
received a ballot to vote in your last agreement that just happened.
Did these people not call their legislative representatives or the
international office and demand they be sent one? If they didn't all
they did was allow and election to happen without proper voting
procedures. It is the members who make things happen.  Members can be
their own worst enemies.

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 December 2017

Engineer 20-30

I trained a lot of locomotive engineers starting in the mid-late '80s
when the 1st UTU Crew Consist made some trainmen look for other
seniorities seeing the writing was on the wall to start cutting off
jobs with the elimination of the caboose. Most had some years on the
railroad an easy to train. By 2003 when I was getting new trainees
there was a big difference. Seems most were being trained on just the
basics. I tried to teach them about learning the territory using
grades, curves etc.. to their advantage with throttle modulation
instead of constantly going from power to dynamics and back etc....
Asking them questions. What I got was people that were pissed off
thinking I was picking on them. It finally came to a head when the RFE
called me into his office. He told me he had complaints that I was
being mean. I told him they have to know WHY they are doing something
that it's not just a motion. That if my training methods I used for
nearly 20 years wasn't good enough I will refuse to train anyone.
After that day I never took another trainee. They don't know back when
I finally got to promotion to locomotive engineer it was more intense.
The LOTH exam was not multiple choice it was handwriting the answers to
the questions, the Operating Rules exam there were 3 of us in front of a
panel of 5 RFE's being grilled for 7-8 hours given questions and we had
to verbally give them the answer, we had to know the air brake system,
cooling system etc... those old Hogheads that we fired/trained under
were hard difficult men that had the responsibility to train us. The
reason one day they had to meet us on the road.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 December 2017

unless it has miraculously changed very recently, RR unions have always
been very reluctant to do ANYTHING that relates to an OSHA Violation,
or ADA, EEOC, FMLA, Whistleblower, or anything that wasn't part of the
union agreement since 1880. These more recent things use big words,
require union reps that are best buds with their managerial cohorts,
etc. to perform about, and give them tools they are incapable of or
unwilling to use. The UTU? did a complaint on BN or UP about GENIE some
years ago but that was very rare. No union wants a real legal
department.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 December 2017

Same style 14 years later. 26 Charles Manson type bitches a day in
Illinois doing nothing while the sight lines slowly go away murdering a
13 year old kid and not walking out in a PERCISION SAFETY WALK-OUT.

http://www.commercial-news.com/news/local_news/railroad-safety-improvements-on-agenda/article_90527292-0a35-5d86-9667-b520a6fceeef.html
...six months after a 13-year-old died at the CSX railroad crossing
near the Boys & Girls Club...

Run the time line from Google map pictures and today 
Correction---The agenda started a few years ago and with the major
overcharges and needless projects signed off by the state the gates
should have been in 20 years ago. In fact the second part of the
crossing which Google map shows our signals stolen was down for gates
2002. Did we pay for the gates and they not put in like half of these
rediculous priced projects?
http://csx-sucks.com/?topic=safe&read=c0833f3bf9
Posted: 21 October 2003
#8,118th of 8,127  543151P	CSX	Vermilion	Danville	Griffin
Street	Automatic Flashing Light Signals and Gates	2002	"
FRA data ---Closed 10/23/2017 
https://www.icc.illinois.gov/railroad/images/o/543151P/543151P-09232009-01.jpg
IDOT catching themselves/CSX with pathetic sight lines.
Google map 40.1363851,-87.6023413
319 0.051960 353715W CSX IL VERMILION DANVILLE GRIFFIN STREET 1 0 0 0 0
FL 13 3 50 YES 2 6,100
...April 1, 2016...
FY 2018-2021 Projects by County
https://www.toi.org/Downloads/899/Twp
353715W CSX Vermilion Danville Griffin Street
Automatic Flashing Light Signals and Gates Upgrade Reconstruct
Approaches
$410,000...
It's illegal for tax-payer money for railroad property clean up per
the Constitution.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 December 2017

FRA

If that's a safety concern then why is it ok for a remote operator to
be located on the nose of an engine during those cold temperatures.  We
are 5ft away from a heated cab but can't go inside. The wind chill is
even worse when pulling 10mph.  The number one injury is slips, trips
and falls and with that rule the chances of injury is increased 10x.

Name: Ugot2Bkidding!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 December 2017

FRA!

Im sure your intentions are meant well but have you not been paying
attention to the railroads or are you just new and haven't learned
yet. If you are new let me enlighten you.
First off, any device we use to get a reading of the temperature on the
locomotive cant be electronic. Any device that gives a digital readout
will be considered an electronic device and we would be charge for
unauthorized use of an electronic device. Any other thermometer we use
that doesn't will be tossed out as untested and not accurate. It will
be challenged and then that device will have to be tested like a lab
rate to show its accuracy. There is no way in hell the company will not
fight and toss out any report or reading that we would get from anyone
certified. Do you think for one moment the Unions are going to take
this fight on and spend the money or use the manpower to stand behind
their members and go to the mat for this issue. ABSOLUTLEY NOT! The
only way we would have a chance of winning a fight on this issue is if
we all carried the same device that CSX uses in it engine house/repair
shops or the same device the manufacture of the locomotive uses. If
that is an electronic device then you, the FRA would have to come to
the mat with us and make it law that we are allowed to carry and use
it.  We are not stupid. We know what we are up against. 
You want to help us out then come back on here and post any device that
we can legally use and the company can not file charges against us for a
rules violation. What device will you back us up on? What device does
CSX use to test the temperatures in their cabs? How do we get it
calibrated to be accurate so that CSX cant say its "JUNK" and not
accurate or unreliable.  Who do we take it to?  GET THE PICTURE!

Name: FRA
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 December 2017

T&E: ATTENTION

CFR 49-229.119(d)

Any occupied locomotive cab shall be provided with proper ventilation
and with a heating arrangement that maintains a temperature of at least
60 degrees Fahrenheit 6 inches above the center of each seat in the cab
compartment. 
Most crew members do not carry a thermometer or a device that can test
for cab temperatures so it may feel colder that it is when you are in
motion. Drafty cabs are the main cause for temperature loss. Seals on
windows and doors along with drafts that come through doors inside the
cabs that house electronic equipment are major causes of concern.
Winter is here. IF you are in a cab that is so drafty that you can not
maintain the temperature as stated in the CFR 49 then you must
immediately report it to the mechanical desk and make a report in your
inspection books. Do not delay. This is a safety concern and no crew
member should be ordered to take a locomotive that does not provide
adequate heat in the winter. I suggest you purchase and carry a device
that can accurately read the temperature of the cab. This will help
with your complaint. Make sure you tell the mechanical desk and note it
on your report that you used such a device to monitor the temperature in
the cab.

Name: engineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 December 2017

RRJim/Hoghead

These newer young engineers we have out here now only have one thing on
their minds. Its 8 and sand. They stand around the crew rooms and brag
all the time how they can keep a 60 mph train running straight up the
entire trip and boast about it like its some big accomplishment. What
they haven't learned is real railroading. They cant get it through
their heads no one gives a crap if they can keep it straight up on the
road. Real hoggers know when the train is crap and built wrong. They
know when the speeds and throttle has to be adjusted to handle the
mistakes that these newer TM and YM make when building a train. They
know that just because a train is set for 50 or 60 doesn't mean it has
to be 50 or 60. Not long ago I heard an EX RF who is now a TM tell a
newer engineer if he ran slower than 3 mph below the set limit he could
be charged with delay of train. I made sure he heard me laughing. When
he asked me what was so funny I told him he better ask the FRA is
that's ok to be telling people before he tells everyone that. Last
time I talked to them they said its up to the engineer to make the
decision on how to handle his train and how fast to run. If there are
circumstances that warrants the engineer running slower the only job he
has is to let dispatch know so they can run other trains around them if
need be. This TM got pissed and stormed off. Bad rail, defective cars
and motors, bad switches aren't just the problem anymore. The way
these pups are building them with all the weight on the rear instead of
on the head end and heavy loaded tanks in front and behind loaded autos
or intermodal effect how the train handles. Extra long cars running on
rail with tight curves that are really to short to handle the things
are a big deal now too. Cars were shorter in a day and they haven't
done crap to adjust for it. Motors that aren't repaired properly and
drop loads all the time and dynamics that drop out along with to much
weight for the motors just add more trouble. Putting motors together
that aren't compatible and the list goes on. Glad I was trained by a
seasoned hogger who knew all this stuff and didn't worry about looking
like a big shot behind the throttle. Common sense with these new pups
and railroading is a joke. 8 and sand!!!!  What a joke! Give the long
trains to the old heads. We know how to adjust and handle them. Give
the short trains to the pups!

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 December 2017

I ran trains that were 190-200 cars in the '70s & '80s with 50 & 60
ton hoppers. With higher tonnage by the '90s it became 150. A 100 car
train we called a short one.

Name: Hog  head
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 December 2017

Really?

Explain to me how a long train can cause it to derail. Been doing this
25 years and never had a long train cause any of my derailments. It's
always been bad track, bad switches or junk cars that weren't
inspected properly.  Train lenght never had anything to do with it.

Name: KNOWLEDGE IS POWER 
E-mail: www.CYAWITCSX
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 December 2017

DO YOUR HOMEWORK, KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, AVOID VERBAL ORDERS IN QUESTIONABLE
SITUATIONS, GET IT IN WRITING, DOCUMENT EVERYTHING 
What the Carrier fears most is cross craft solidarity, what they fear
next is a knowlageable employee. FRA Good Faith Challenges (49 CFR,214
subpart C & 218.97) gives you the right by federal law, to challenge a
directive to violate ANY FRA law. This is SUPPOSED to be a topic
trained yearly by the carrier. And if you are retaliated by the carrier
for exercising your rights, you have the OSHA FRSA Whistleblower
Protection Act to cover you. Lots of Bad Order wheels on cars and locos
that could lead to derailment getting looked over these days, let alone
the countless FRA violations on ALL equipment on the line of road at
present. How many shops and service centers closed in the last 9
months??? Write it up, put it out of service, protect yourself, your
fellow railroaders and the community.
O, AND DON'T LET A TROLL OR MOLE CHANGE THIS TOPIC
KNOW YOUR ROLE GIBRONI

Name: Ben Dover
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 December 2017

Another CSX train derailment in New Jersey today. News just said the
train was in excess of 100 cars. When will it end? It will end when one
derails and chlorine gas kills a lot of people. Unfortunately the
government won't take action against these excess length trains until
a lot of people are killed. Pathetic to say the least.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 December 2017

Bruce

removing the yard transportation jobs does not equal a yard closing

Name: Bruce
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 December 2017

CHICAGO, Dec 8  Final touches being put on new operating plan for
Chicago, 59th St ramp to close on or about FEB 1st. By March 15th, Barr
Yard will curtail switching operations to 1 job per day., and locals
will be reduced to 2 jobs. More info to come as it becomes available to
me.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 December 2017

ZULU

RADNOR is being sold next year so Louisville should be safe.  Plus
nobody can switch racks like Louisville.  When they sit there with
their stop watches they need to consider we are pushing and pulling
damn near twice the distance as everywhere else.  On the the other hand
the auto industry is about to go in the slump so who knows.

Name: not fooled
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 December 2017

So What


Ignore that baiting piece of crap who is posting as pines. Not him. Not
his style. Any one and everyone who has been posting on this site for
the last 10 years knows his style. This guy doesn't like whats being
posted. Guess everyone is hitting to close to home on all the legal
info. Info on the USDOT and the FRA.  Must be making the legal team in
Jacksonville nervous.  Keep it up and don't fall for his crap.

Name: ZULU
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for N/A
Posted: 08 December 2017

Anyone hear the rumor that the Louisville Osborn Yard is very close to
becoming a run through yard? The few industries around that dump do not
bring enough revenue in so it probably won't be long. Better get your
seniority started at Ford or UPS before everyone else does!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 December 2017

So---Name: so what---the point being the Charles Manson type bitches
running trains killing people should be grabbing the Union leaders by
the pussies insisting on a precision STRIKE FOR SAFETY which is
COMPLETELY LEGAL.

Name: so what
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 December 2017

Pines


So whats your point again.  Plugging anything into google isn't going
to do anything.  Did you know that the new PTC program that is
mandatory on the railroad doesn't even have accurate information for
gated or private crossings. The thing blows the horn for every dirt
road and cow crossing out there and the progam has some field crossing
listed as gated when not only is the crossing not gated, its not a
crossing at all. So if the railroad, fra and the federal government
cant figure out whats really out there how do you think looking at
anything on google is going to make any difference.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 December 2017

I like the million dollar rip off of Federal RR safety funds to pay the
state DOT to do their jobs in Al;abama. Like 10 sets of crossing gates
if the REAL costs were used.

Project Description
ALDOT PUBLIC RAIL HIGHWY 2009 MUTCD PASSIVE DEVICE COMPLIANCE PROJECT -
ECR
FY 2017 County JEFFERSON 
Project # 100066594 (times three)
Total Cost $66,000, $219,000, $40,000 = $425,000 for a 8 year old deal?
Mickey Mouse signs-check---shiney tape---check---DOT sign
--check---Done
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Project Description
STATEWIDE PE FOR RAIL SAFETY-HWY PROGRAM FY 2017,2018. THIS PROJECT IS
ONLY FOR ALDOT PERSONNEL SALARY FOR SAFETY PROJECTS OR 130 PROJECTS. 
Total Cost $1,000 (in thousands)==ONE MILLION
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Project # 100066696 FY 2017 Project Description
EVALUATE 25 AT-GRADE RAILROAD CROSSING LOCATIONS TO DEVELOP SAFETY
IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PHASE XVII PROGRAM DOCUMENT.
$100,000 or $4,000 a crossing. Two hours on Google map.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Project # 100066742 FY 2017 Project Description DEVELOPMENT OF NEW
RAILROAD CROSSING DESIGN GUIDELINES
$25,000 (GUESS FRA--FHWA--etc...are nincompoops)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 December 2017

For example Project # 100065224 in Alabama-- Fiscal year 2016 $500 (in
thousands) Project Description
SPECIAL RAILROAD CROSSINGS SURVEY FOR FY2016 AND FY2017. Duh, aren't
we paying the Feds/state big bucks already for the RAILROAD CROSSINGS
SURVEY's? That's $170 per public crossing and Federal safety funds
can't be used on private crossings. The crossing latitude/longitude
off the FRA inventory can be plugged into Google map for a SURVEY. I
can do probably 20 a hour. Pretty good money huh? OR another trick to
waste safety funds saving the RRs where the signals aren't?

Name: screwed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 December 2017

Engineers

If you want to take advantage of the late mark up after you are coming
off your rest days, DO NOT mark off before 0001 if you get back in from
a trip where they kept you in the hotel and on a train the first day of
your scheduled day off. The IVR system is set up to recognize a mark
off at 0001 on your first day off. If you make the mistake of marking
off before 0001 when you get in it will screw you out of your right to
request late markup.  Argued with the crew callers that its not my
fault the company kept me in the hotel and out on a train on my first
rest day. Not my fault they didn't send me home. My union agreement
entitles me to a late markup after my second rest day but they said its
too bad because the system is set up to recognize rest days starting at
0001. They wouldn't override it. So again, the company screws you and
keeps you out on your first scheduled rest day do not mark off until
0001. Its their fault and they created the problem!

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 December 2017

cheated

Government doesn't count gas price increases into inflation. There's
quite a few things left out intentionally. You're absolutely correct
getting any increase it's taken away by healthcare costs, Medicare
premium increases, Medicare supplement increases, drug prescription
cost, or a few extra dollars kicks it into a higher tax bracket etc....
I've been retired nearly 7 years and have yet to have an actual
increase other than on paper. All I can say is we are lucky to have our
retirement system. It's a livable retirement. It's important to keep
the government out of it. Paul Ryan has tried for years to get his
hands on it in his tax bill proposals. He wants to cut us back to
Social Security levels with the tier that is a SS equivalent. That
would reduce it by $400-$600+ a month it would be higher with the
spousal stipend. RRB doesn't cost taxpayers one dime, it's totally
funded by us & the railroads. Railroads don't want to lose it seeing
management & non-union employees are also under RRB. That's why in the
past they have fought against government interference along with the
unions.

Name: Tony Thompson
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 December 2017

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 December 2017

How in hell would anyone ever get a manager on a recording without the
use of an electronic device?  Seems to me this should be a violation
to
the whistle blower policy considering theres no way to get proof.  All
these contracts the railroads and unions write up are also very
misleading and hard to understand.   
I seriously doubt the contract language would be this mumbo jumbo if
they weren't trying to fuck the employees as much as possible.

_____________________________________________________________________
THIS IS SPOT ON. I worked for CSX for awhile, when stuff went bad, I
started taping. Hundreds of tapes! If they fire you're ass, and they
will, (they did mine)!, you need proof! If you don't work there
anymore and decide to file a suit, then all tapes are evidence and can
be used against CSX, per the mouth of a Claims Agent (turns out, very
true). Protect yourself guys, tape these a--holes! Protect yourself, I
did, and it works!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 December 2017

URGENT ALERT - NEW INVESTIGATION TO SAFETY CONCERNS 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-train-safety/growing-length-of-u-s-freight-trains-in-federal-crosshairs-after-crashes-gao-idUSKBN1E01B9

The investigative arm of the U.S. Congress is launching a probe into
the safety of increasingly long freight trains being operated by CSX
Corp among others

U.S. Government Accountability Office

https://www.gao.gov/about/contact.html

U.S. Federal Railroad Administration

https://www.fra.dot.gov/Page/P0244

Goes without saying that this is an opportunity to highlight the
various safety concerns among several other issues at CSX. Reach out to
whoever you can, keep this story in the eyes and ears of interested
parties.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 December 2017

How in hell would anyone ever get a manager on a recording without the
use of an electronic device?  Seems to me this should be a violation to
the whistle blower policy considering theres no way to get proof.  All
these contracts the railroads and unions write up are also very
misleading and hard to understand.   
I seriously doubt the contract language would be this mumbo jumbo if
they weren't trying to fuck the employees as much as possible.

Name: Retired OSHA
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 December 2017

Railroad employees 

If you want to know more and are interested in the jurisdictional lines
agreed upon between the FRA and OSHA it is easy to look it up on line. 
One site you may like to visit is under the Memorandum of Agreement
between the Federal Railroad Administration and the Occupational Safety
and Health Administration US Department of Labor. You should find the
reading quite interesting and educational as this agreement was put in
motion because of conflicts of who would handle whistleblowing cases
and protection against retaliation in the work place. It is unfortunate
that it is common that the employees of the railroad do not educate
themselves on the laws that protect them and the power they have to
protect themselves in the work place. Most major industries count on
this and usually are right when they play games and gamble with the
employees. An ignorant work force is a good workforce for the company.
You play right into their hands.

Name: cheated
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 December 2017

RRJim

If your retired then you should know that all retirement saving plans
are formulated on a 3% inflation formula. That is playing it moderately
safe. We all know that the government can make or break our entire lives
with the stroke of a pen. We are in the middle of that right now! 4% is
the safest course of action to make sure you are not going to be in the
poor house if the economy tanks, medical insurance companies run rampant
again and our new POTUS doesn't tax us to death or end up taking
control of our RR retirement, which the feds have been trying to do
forever!  The feds are never going to tell anyone the whole truth and
nothing but the truth. If they were to tell the American people that
inflation was higher than 2% then people would expect their social
security raises to be treated as the same. Bottom line is, its nice to
get a raise. Of course it is, but every time we get one we end up
having a chunk  of this or that taken out of it. If it isn't medical
premiums or out of pocket expenses, it is a raise in our union dues and
a work rule change that screws us out of pay or trip rate changes or
they agree to add a heavier work load on us to cut jobs. Just like the
road crews who are supposed to be working through freight. They have
then doing local road switching work and cut local road jobs out.  We
have never ever had a raise that didn't come with a price.  As far as
Im concerned 4% is bullshit if they are going to keep pinching out of
it every time!

Name: LAW
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 December 2017

Other


You are wrong. OSHA does have authority to inquire and follow through
on complaints that are violated within the state. The railroad is not a
federal owned/operated agency. It is regulated by the Federal
government. They are held accountable under the same laws and standards
as any other civilian business. If they are violating  state or federal
laws regulated by OSHA you can file a report with the agency.

In reference to the violations of FRA law 240.231 that have been posted
on here several times, if you feel that your respective FRA
representatives are not following through on your complaints, you can
request a review with the USDOT. FRA agents are not exempt from
following their laws and regulations as well. Intimidation by your
supervisors to violate federal law is not a laughing matter. If you are
still having these problems then you need to make sure you get solid
proof that you are being ordered to violate these laws. A recorded
conversation on your phones or orders over railroad radio
communications as well as having several witnesses to the conversation
is a good start. DOCUMENT,DOCUMENT,DOCUMENT! Exact times, places, names
and the exact conversation as you can best remember is imperative. Do
not worry about radio conversations being removed/erased. You can not
expect change if you do not take the proper action. Posting on this
site may bring the violations out in the open but there will be nothing
done if you do not follow through with the proper charges.

240.11-A person who violated any requirement of this part( ex:crew
member) or causes the violation (ex:railroad supervision) of any such
requirement is subject to a civil penalty of at least $839 and not more
than $27,455 PER VIOLATION, except that: Penalties may be assessed
against individuals only for willful violations(supervisions constant
intimidation of crew members) and, where a grossly negligent violation
has created an imminent hazard of death or injury to person, or has
caused death or injury, a penalty not to exceed $109,819 per violation
may be assessed. Each day a violation continues shall continues a
separate offense.
A person who knowingly and willfully falsifies a record or report
required by this part may be subject to criminal penalties under 49
U.S.C 21311.

After having seen several complaints posted on this site about csx
supervisors ordering crews to violate FRA law 240.231 or suffer
discipline charges it is not hard to figure out that this is an on
going issue and is being done in a willful manner. If was once posted
that the violation had been forwarded to an FRA representative. How
long ago were these complaint filed? Has anyone received any response
from the department? If not has anyone contacted the USDOT? Has anyone
filed a charge with their respective Union representation? It is your
responsibility to make sure these complaints are followed through with.
If several charges are filed you have a better chance of having your
complaints brought to the table. An order of protection against
retaliation can be issued for a group of employees who come forward to
report federal law violations. If necessary you can come together as a
group and ask for whistle blower protection.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 December 2017

The way I understood it the original RR argument was that FRA took care
of ALL safety related issues, and OSHA was excluded. NOW I understand
that if FRA acts on a safety issue OSHA stays out, but if no FRA input
it belongs to OSHA. So if FRA issue track safety standards it belongs
to them, if the diesel shop has fumes it probably belongs to OSHA.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 December 2017

OSHA has NO jurisdiction over railroad safety. Your safety is dependent
on reports to the FRA. A report to the FRA will result in retaliation.
Don't believe me? Try it!

Name: RRJim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 December 2017

If inflation by the feds standards is 4% I'd be getting a nice raise
with my railroad retirement. But, it isn't. RRB even though it has
nothing to do with Social Security our increase is based on it. It's
closer to the 2%. We'll get some kind of increase not much. 3 out of
the past 6 years we didn't get anything because the feds said there
was no inflation or it was so low it was like .06%.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 December 2017

Re: Dumbfounded
Well said, but like always you have to hit pocket books first. There's
no one going to take a stand until it's too late.

Name: Dumbfounded
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 December 2017

Idiots!!!!  

Do you morons not understand that the FRA can fine you for violating
FRA LAWS/REGULATIONS? Do you never listen to your LC or co workers when
they talk about this. Some stupid idiot is at this moment running a
train on a territory they are not qualufied on because the conductor is
and volunteered to be the pilot after the company asked them too. What
part of the FRA law do you not understand that states THE PILOT CAN NOT
BE A MEMBER OF THE CREW! It's written in black and white. Do you not
understand the FRA is part of the USDOT! Do you make it an everyday
thing to violate regulations established by a federal agency? Why are
you idiots putting your jobs on the line for the RR! You are so scared
of losing your job if you stand up to them but yet you risk having a
federal violation charge brought against you.  What the hell is wrong
with you people. Csx has it in writing for everyone to read that they
follow all state and federal laws. Whistleblow! Report the truth. Maybe
if the FRA throws a fine in a crews lap it will wake you up!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 December 2017

check out www.rapedatcnrail.com

Name: The truth
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 December 2017

Get over it!!!  
The facts are that none of you will stand together and take your
union's on. All you do is whine and cry and talk big but you do
nothing. When was the last time any of you went after your elected
officials and demanded answers. When was the last time you rallied to
remove anyone from office. In the last 10 years, NEVER! You know you
won't and you can't do a thing if you don't all stick together. So
just suck it up and take what they decide for you because you have no
guts and no control. Pay your dues and suck it up. Every week the
changes are right in front of your faces. Your work rules are changing
and your union's aren't doing a thing about it. It's over. Your
losing the battle. Deal with it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 December 2017

"'No red carpet' when I arrived at CSX Corp"

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/hunter-harrison-no-red-carpet-when-i-arrived-at-csx-corp

Hmm I don't know why that could possibly be Ewing...perhaps its the
thousand or so you laid off, or the delays and forcing individuals to
work the jobs of 5 maybe? You slag...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 December 2017

50% inflation on out of pocket medical expenses.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 December 2017

4% inflation?
Last I read, it was closer to 2%

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 December 2017

I had to repost this from a 10 year Engineer?
Inflation 4% ? And dangle some cash, wow what a genius. Took $1.50 to
get rid of the Fireman.


 Loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 December 2017

IDIOTS 
No one can blame me. I voted NO for that crappy agreement. The raises
are a slap in the face and a joke. Inflation is figured at 4% a year.
We aren't getting shit. If I get seriously sick or any of you do I
hope you have money saved because your gonna pay for it. All you
idiots
did was look at a back pay check and the premium cost. Never took a
good
look at the future. Joke will be on all of us when 2019 rolls around
and
we end up paying the higher premium anyway. You think it won't happen
then you are retarded! They already have it planned for us. They will
dangle some cash in front of the jackasses and threaten to raise co
pay
if you don't take the cash and premium increase. Will you be an idiot
again!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 December 2017

Me

Not to mention the 15% tax cut these corporations are about to get. 
Law makers say it will be passed on to workers through higher wages.

Name: Me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 December 2017

Zbinden

Your exactly right. There are no work rules or arbitraries that this
company is going to pay. And if we can't get a better contract when
the economy is booming then obviously the bargaining power of those
arbitraries ain't crap. I for one worked 203 hours in the month of
November..i certainly didn't make the equivalent of 12 grand last
month.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 December 2017

Norfolk Southern Corp. is making Hunter Harrison look extremely stupid.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 December 2017

Jgw,
They SHOULD pay it within 60 days.

Name: JG Wentworth. I want it now!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 December 2017

Anybody know how long it takes to get retroactive pay?

Name: harrassed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 December 2017

FRA


You are on board with the excessive restrictions of the use of our
phones aren't you???  Then you better start doing something about
these TMs blowing my phone up with text messages when Im out working a
local. When we finished our work and was getting ready to head back I
turned my phone on to check and see if I had any messages because I
have a sick kid and I had 12 text messages from the TM over the area
going nuts wanting to know how we were doing, how much work did we have
done, were we going to make it back on time, blah blah blah and then I
heard later that the TM made a comment that We were chicken shits
because we wouldn't check our phones throughout the day.  Well guess
what, my phone is never going to be on during the day when Im working
and if the company wants to come after me for it you better be prepared
to back me when I blow the whistle and file intimidation charges.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 December 2017

Got it

that is 1 retarded post.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 December 2017

Looks like in the precision killing formula it took CSX 3 months less
this year to kill the total killed last year minus one death. Which
compared to drivers with brains who would have had ONE death in the
same miles traveled.


CSX
Accident/Incident data current through the end of September 30, 2017
Total train miles: 55,136,736
Total fatalities: 96     Switching miles: 9,757,177
Total nonfatal conditions: 423      Employee hours: 33,448,616
55,136,736/96 = 574,341
100,000,000/574,341 =  174
=============================
Accident/Incident data current through the end of September 30, 2016
Total train miles: 62,144,853
Total fatalities:  74     Switching miles: 9,836,819
Total nonfatal conditions: 393      Employee hours: 37,373,557
62,144,853/74 = 839,795
100,000,000/839,795 =  119
===============================
Accident/Incident data current through the end of Dec. 31, 2016
Total train miles: 81,402,062
Total fatalities: 97     Switching miles: 13,005,876
Total nonfatal conditions:  520      Employee hours: 49,082,195
81,402,062/97 =  839,197
100,000,000/839,197 =  119

Name: Got it
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 December 2017

Fooled u all!!!

Not a single one of you saw the evil plan. How could you not see it.
All those guys taking legit fmla just got screwed. The company can't
get the abusers  with discipline so they got them through the pocket
book. They don't work they don't get paid. Now they have higher cost
out the pocket.  The sad thing is the one who are using it legit are
going to suffer for those who abuse it to play games.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 December 2017

Our union leaders should not have ever put that up for a vote.  One
single contract double our out of pocket.  I understand it going up but
not double.  All the involved unions suck but now I'll guess I switch
to the cheapest dues.  Fuck you UTU!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 December 2017

Yes it could of been a better agreement, but when did the R.R. ever care
what you got in any agreement. You just have to put on your Big Boy
pants and suck it up. I for one have been at the end of a pick and
shovel, worked 100 hour work weeks, I have griped about the conditions
at work, but anymore I just throw my hands up and say they have me for
12 hrs. The fun in this job went away a long time ago, now its just a
job and a paycheck.

Name: Loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 December 2017

IDIOTS 
No one can blame me. I voted NO for that crappy agreement. The raises
are a slap in the face and a joke. Inflation is figured at 4% a year.
We aren't getting shit. If I get seriously sick or any of you do I
hope you have money saved because your gonna pay for it. All you idiots
did was look at a back pay check and the premium cost. Never took a good
look at the future. Joke will be on all of us when 2019 rolls around and
we end up paying the higher premium anyway. You think it won't happen
then you are retarded! They already have it planned for us. They will
dangle some cash in front of the jackasses and threaten to raise co pay
if you don't take the cash and premium increase. Will you be an idiot
again!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 December 2017

Unfortunately that terrible contract was ratified. I have to wonder if
any of you guys actually read the entire agreement, or just the
summary. When you or a family member gets sick your going to find out
real quick just how bad this contract is. And only a 9.8% raise which
doesn't even cover inflation. Better sock those back pay checks away
for your increased health care costs.

Name: Retired
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 December 2017

I just signed a pention to stop cameras in loco cabs. They are putting
cameras in side shop everywhere. I donít agree with these cameras. But
after a phone was found on crew member that was texting just before
horrific crash where dozens lost there lifeís. The company was sued and
families of victims affected forever. It is always that one incedent
that affects everyone. There case is if you donít have a phone you
canít use it.Stats show now that there are more deaths from cell phone
use than people impaired by a substance. I worked at railroad and I
answered my phone when I could,but would of been fired if caught. You
know how it is,it will never happen to me!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 December 2017

Re: Retired Conductor 30 years
I appreciate your thoughts and actions on becoming a whistle blower,
but it's not that hard. Billingsly has taken a stand for SAFETY and
will be singled out as an example to the rest of CSX  employees NOT to
go this route. This belongs to OSHA, FELA, the UNIONS and many
categories protecting employees and the public from those who consider
themselves above the laws. MAN UP and back Louis Billingsly any way you
can it's going to get tough on him and family.
God Bless you Billingsly

Name: eh
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 December 2017

the crappy agreement passed and hunter is planning on selling 49% of csx
railways.  Well, good luck brothers and sisters.  Its only gonna get
worse from here.

Name: Hampton
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 December 2017

i am curious on what Carolina lines EHH is selling off?  As a G&W
employee, they are interested in GA, SC (Upstate), and parts of NC.

Just didnít know if anyone knew what EHH meant when said about selling
underutilized lines.  Put our company name on the tracks!

Just looking for a sign...

Name: Retired Conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 December 2017

To establish whistleblower status document safety or ethics complaints
BEFORE hand. Email, off duty,your complaints to the proper authority
with a copy to the union. Be respectful, check spelling and grammar,and
be specific with times and dates.Be sure that you understand the rules
and agreement sections violated. A witness is invaluable if possible. A
flood of complaints in each location can't be ignoted. It would be
great if the local chairmen would take the lead and coordinate, but if
not still follow through.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 December 2017

This is what will bring about change. BLOW THE WHISTLE ON THESE PEOPLE.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/fired-csx-conductor-seeking-whistleblower-protection-changes-within-company/656596333

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 30 November 2017

Maybe a ray of hope, first stage of perhaps Eugene stepping down, maybe
his Emphasyma is too much anymore. Dimentia also seems to be creeping
in on the old asshole

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-csx-succession/csxs-ceo-hunter-harrison-describes-key-step-in-succession-plan-idUSKBN1DT33V

Name: Conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 November 2017

UP 
Who gives a crap about SP trash. No way in hell they are dealing with
the old man lynch mob we are. The small hand full of men with balls
that are left at csx just cant handle them alone. They want rules
compliance then give it to them. Everyone knows they will turn a blind
eye to breaking rules if they are in trouble and it moves things
quicker. You follow the rules and it slows things down your on their
hit list. Stick together as a group then it's harder to target and
abuse. it's an eye for an eye! The union's aren't going to do squat
to stop any head hunting and trumped up charges.

Name: Pissed off 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 November 2017

Other 

Doesn't surprise me. They will use those tapes to burn crews just for
the hell of it. Already been told they can burn both crew members just
by charging them with failure to follow the tattle tale rule. It states
you will immediately report any rules violation to a supervisor. We all
see the writing on the wall. The old Ingram Nazi crap is coming back
and old heads with balls are gone. The ones that helped us stand up and
knew what to do. It's headed back to excessive discipline.  We all need
to start getting a petition going for cruel punishment on the job when
you are stuck sitting on a train for hours and you can't nap anymore
or read anything but your stinking rule book or use your phone to keep
yourself awake. No one should have to sit for hours starring out the
window all hours of the night and try to stay awake with the only
choice is to read csx propeganda. It doesn't hurt one damn thing to be
using your phone to entertain yourself while you wait. If someone is
awake and calling stopped every 15 minutes and getting down to watch
trains go by then there isn't any reason to worry about safety issues.
Be ready for the excessive discipline to start. The nightmare is
returning.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 November 2017

Xlc 

Article 44 of the CSRA.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 November 2017

I am off pending physical due to drifting off asleep and it was on the
camera, got called short of getting enough sleep. Help each other out
when you are tired out there, cause they will use it against you. Also
to APE at UP corporate why are you bad mouthing Southern Pacific, it
was a great place to work and be proud to work for!

Name: Xlc
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 November 2017

Cond. 10/20 
What the hell are road minutes.  Are you kidding. How did the RR run
before cell phones? Just fine. Don't be an idiot. Make your calls
before you go on duty. You got issues take care of them when you get
home or to the hotel.  You got an emergency then give someone a heads
up before you get on the train. People can call the emergency number if
they have to get ahold of you. Just about every train stops at least
once. Get off and make your call then. How the hell did people ever
live in the past without cell phones....jezz man!

Name: Big balls
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 November 2017

Where did this Trainmaster David Benson come from? He's the dumbest TM
that I've ever seen in my 28 years on the RR. Why is this fat fuck
still on the property? If Harrison doesn't fire him then we all have a
chance. One dumb son of a bitch.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 November 2017

Every train should be demanding road minutes.  Take that time to go 25ft
from the tracks and use your phones.  And make sure you stop your train
every time to go piss.

Name: UP MANAGEMENT
E-mail: corporate@up.com
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 November 2017

UP MANAGEMENT TEAM:

Corporate America is draining the swamp of sexual predators, perverts
and gropers. The last count, UP has at least 20 predators listed.
Do the right thing and make UP Responsible Again, before the 
Southern Pacific baggage destroy your culture!

Name: PISSED OFF
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 November 2017

THANKS ALOT STUPID IDIOTS!!!!!!


WEll now you have gone and done it.  Using your phone while the train
is running and there are cameras pointing at you from all directions.
You want people to understand our problems and the hostile environment
we are working in but then you go and act like total retards and get
everyone put in the hot seat. What part of the cell phone rules did you
not understand. You can only thank yourselves for the jobs that will be
lost now.  When the cameras were first installed it was stated in a
memo that they would not be used to micromanage crews or to head hunt.
It was stated very clearly that if an incident occurred that the tapes
would only be viewed at the time of the incident. Now not only are they
going to view several a month  but the new bulletin states that they
will view the tapes in more depth if they see something that warrants
further investigation. You morons know damn good and well they will use
this excuse to view the entire tape and find as many stupid little rules
violations or improper train handling rules as they can. They will trump
them up and throw the book at us.  Don't be reading a newspaper while
you are sitting in the sidings. Don't be looking at a magazine.
That's a rules violation. Don't pick your nose.  Don't drop any
trash. Keep the windows shut if the horn is overhead. Wear your safety
glasses. Yes that is the rule while in the cab.   
Thanks a lot morons for making the rest of us more miserable than we
are because you couldn't stay off the damn phone while the train was
moving.  Oh, and if your going to get off the train while it is stopped
and walk 25 feet away to use your phone you better inspect as must train
as you can while you are stopped. THAT IS THE RULE!!!!